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Speaker 1: will be when you're supposed to say, Paul's gotta beat.

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Speaker 1: I didn't want to throw you under the bus. I

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome into Patriots Unfiltered. We are here Thursday afternoon.

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Speaker 1: And luckily I was looking a little grim there for

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Speaker 1: We're talk like bloggers, you know, people who blog about

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Speaker 1: thank you for joining us. And we don't even have

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Speaker 1: is Uh. We had the super Bowl to talk about

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Speaker 1: unless you know, for the cuts last night, for I

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Speaker 1: that we have the Voice of Reason, that paper, the

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Speaker 1: paper of record, so you should. You should probably fill

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Speaker 1: everybody in on that. So a few cuts last night surprising,

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Speaker 1: not really quin Quinn Nordine, surprising, Tay Hayes, and Uh

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Speaker 1: season ticket members, um, you have the option to pay

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Speaker 1: So I like that Thursday night. Yeah, no, you're offseason

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Speaker 1: top that's it, And I know I appreciate it, Paul,

428
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Speaker 1: because this is what happens when it takes you an

429
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Speaker 1: hour and a half to drive to work everywhere? What uh?

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Speaker 1: And what was what was the topics today on the

431
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Speaker 1: upcoming edition of of All Access? Stuff that we've beaten

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Speaker 1: to death perfect you know, offseason you know, priorities and yeah, Billy, oh,

433
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Speaker 1: and I got a couple of things, a couple of

434
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Speaker 1: little nuggets to throw out there, though, I thought, what

435
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Speaker 1: do you guys think of Rex Ryan supposedly going to

436
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Speaker 1: the Bronco's Interesting? Yeah? Interesting? I don't know where how

437
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:33,280
Speaker 1: long has he been out? Like, I mean he was

438
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Speaker 1: Buffalo fifteen sixteen. I want to say, sixteen, wasn't that

439
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Speaker 1: the year that Brady was suspended for the first four

440
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Speaker 1: game sixteen seen? Yes, I think that was his last year. Yeah,

441
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Speaker 1: random Like I mean, it's just you'd see there's so

442
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Speaker 1: many young guys developing out there, and then all of

443
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Speaker 1: a sudden you gotta go back to Rex Ryan. I mean,

444
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Speaker 1: I guess Rob Ryan is kind of he's kicked around

445
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Speaker 1: for a while too. He's been kind of in and out,

446
00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,400
Speaker 1: but something in in in Denver and then you'll see

447
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Speaker 1: him again. You'll see him this year. I don't know,

448
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,040
Speaker 1: just then interesting kind of and connecting to that some

449
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Speaker 1: Judy rumors as well, Can I go like, do we

450
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Speaker 1: still do I don't know if we did them anymore?

451
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Speaker 1: Do we still do? Like the out of town conference

452
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Speaker 1: calls with the coach on Wednesday? No, we didn't do

453
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Speaker 1: it this year, not as much. I maybe once or

454
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Speaker 1: twice if the coach wasn't so nice about it. Yeah,

455
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Speaker 1: it stinks I missed those. My guess is, like Rex Ryan,

456
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Speaker 1: I always the defensive coordinator, so you wouldn't necessarily get

457
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Speaker 1: him as the opposing head coach. But you know he

458
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Speaker 1: had that comment about Mac Jones and the pop gun

459
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Speaker 1: arm right right, because it was actually in the midst

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Speaker 1: of a rant that he was really praising Belichick for

461
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Speaker 1: somehow finding a way to win all these games. Very

462
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Speaker 1: pro Belichick on TV always yeah, yeah, always, And it's

463
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Speaker 1: a strange thing, but you would have to really search

464
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Speaker 1: far and wide for a really anti Rex Ryan quote

465
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Speaker 1: from Bill, and he gave him a lot of trouble.

466
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Speaker 1: There's a couple of things. One that I think you

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Speaker 1: always respect about Rex Ryan was that he's kind of

468
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Speaker 1: a game planned defensive coordinator. He doesn't do the Tampa two.

469
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Speaker 1: You know that's what we do. If you know how

470
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Speaker 1: to rip the Tampa two apart, well we're in trouble

471
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Speaker 1: because that's what we do. He doesn't do that. He

472
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Speaker 1: changes different things up. But I also think he has

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Speaker 1: respect for like the coach aspect, Like he's a coach.

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Speaker 1: His brother was here on the Patriots staff in the

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Speaker 1: early part of the dynasty. Um, their father was like

476
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Speaker 1: like they grew up with it, they understand it. That life,

477
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Speaker 1: which is similar to him. When he was with the Jets,

478
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Speaker 1: it was some of the most I mean, I want

479
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Speaker 1: to say fun for me, just because it was competitive

480
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Speaker 1: and he made it. He made it interesting. I mean

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Speaker 1: away the most three the three most interesting years nine,

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Speaker 1: ten and eleven. I mean I still remember that two

483
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Speaker 1: and nine Week two game. You know, I come here

484
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Speaker 1: for the Week one they pulled it out against Buffalo,

485
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Speaker 1: one of Brady's you know miracles where they probably shouldn't

486
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Speaker 1: have won. UM and then they go down there Welker's out.

487
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Speaker 1: They got to throw Edelman in the signs right, they

488
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Speaker 1: had all the number was on the sideline trying to

489
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Speaker 1: get plays in quick and uh, just a great atmosphere.

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Speaker 1: It just it just made it fun. That was the

491
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Speaker 1: white board game. White board game that right, every game

492
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Speaker 1: has a name. That was the white board game, Isaiah,

493
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: stand back, stand back. Wow. But you know they got

494
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Speaker 1: them what They beat them both times in New York.

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Speaker 1: I think it was Week two in two thousand and nine,

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Speaker 1: Week two in two thousand and ten, um, and that

497
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Speaker 1: was after I remember two at halftime, like mass Moss

498
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Speaker 1: in two thousand and ten had just had this ridiculous

499
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Speaker 1: catch one hand and catch and still but then there

500
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,399
Speaker 1: was like all Jets second half. And of course then

501
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Speaker 1: you have the forty five to three blowout in December. Oh,

502
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Speaker 1: there's no way they come back and you know, that

503
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 1: game script just unfolded completely, not the way the Patriots scripted.

504
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 1: That wasn't scripted, but if you were writing a script

505
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Speaker 1: about how the Patriots didn't want it to happen, and

506
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Speaker 1: I mean it was like that would the crumpler dropped

507
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Speaker 1: the touchdown. That was a team that was a team

508
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Speaker 1: that I believe set the record for like fewest turnovers

509
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Speaker 1: and Brady's throwing picks in the red zone in the

510
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Speaker 1: first quarter of the playoff game. It was like, oh yeah,

511
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Speaker 1: that game played. Mark Sanchez played out of his mind.

512
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Speaker 1: You know, three touchdown games, the one to Santonio Holmes

513
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Speaker 1: on the far, perfect far sideline down our end in

514
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Speaker 1: the press box. I still remember that that was That

515
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Speaker 1: was perfect, perfect throw back as a fan that was

516
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 1: that game was brutal because that team all year long

517
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 1: was a wagon. That team had beaten the Jets forty

518
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Speaker 1: five to three. Yeah, they blew them out, and that

519
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 1: team just felt like that was a super Bowl caliber

520
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 1: team and to have them get cut out early was

521
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Speaker 1: was crazy. I remember at the time being thought that

522
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Speaker 1: team was better than the eleven team, and the eleven

523
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Speaker 1: team ended up going to the Super Bowl. Yeah, you know,

524
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Speaker 1: minutes away from winning it, right, Yeah, but Rex Ryan

525
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 1: his uh. I think a lot of people remember Vas

526
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Speaker 1: and Revis Island and all that kind of stuff, But

527
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Speaker 1: his pressure package has always been ahead of the curve

528
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Speaker 1: and one of the better ones in the league, even

529
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Speaker 1: going back to his Baltimore days as a DC. And

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Speaker 1: he gave them a lot of trouble up front with

531
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Speaker 1: moving part and things like that and disguise looks and whatever.

532
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 1: And now you see teams do it, you know, skiing

533
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: rushes or whatever you want to send pressures like that's

534
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: the that's what football is now. And Bill and and

535
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 1: Rex were doing that in the late two thousands, early

536
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Speaker 1: twenty tens, when ten years before it came really popular.

537
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Speaker 1: Did you now did you and Paul I know, like

538
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: Moss departure like Moss and you can clarify you were

539
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 1: here exactly what that situation was. But was there any

540
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Speaker 1: feeling that that move to kind of I don't want

541
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Speaker 1: to say that they went from Moss to Dion back

542
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: to Deon Branch like it was a oneful one swap,

543
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 1: But do you think that that kind of evolution that

544
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Speaker 1: happened was part of a reaction to Rex Ryan, Like

545
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Speaker 1: I always and I forget if I if this was

546
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Speaker 1: something that I had heard somewhere that I just kind

547
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 1: of felt, but it just it seemed to me to

548
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Speaker 1: a certain extent, like grievous, kind of exed out Moss,

549
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 1: and they just wanted to go to, hey, we got

550
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Speaker 1: to beat these pressure packages. The overload blitz is on

551
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Speaker 1: one side. We gotta have quick, guys. I don't know.

552
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Speaker 1: I don't think so because I don't think it. I

553
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: don't think the timeline coincided. I think those packages that

554
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Speaker 1: Ev is talking about, and I think he's one hundred

555
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: percent right, happened after Moss was gone. The I think

556
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: the overriding factor with Randy Moss was Randy Moss is

557
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: Randy Moss. And everybody always says, you guys are picking

558
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Speaker 1: on Randy. First of all, I liked Randy Moss a lot,

559
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Speaker 1: and I'm not, as you guys know, anti talent, like

560
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 1: my good buddy on my show, Mike Felger is the

561
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: most anti talents guy I've ever heard in my life.

562
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: You can't win if you have a lot of talented players.

563
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Speaker 1: According to this backward thinking, you know, trend setting the

564
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: bust and media. Yeah, I mean you know, the best

565
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 1: there is. But he has absolutely no clue when it

566
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 1: comes to this topic. He thinks that, you know, like Moss,

567
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: you can't win with guys like that, you know whatever.

568
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: But because the whole thing was everywhere Randy Moss has

569
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Speaker 1: ever gone, people love him. And when things are going great,

570
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 1: it's great because he's in a good mood and everybody

571
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: loves him. All of a sudden, that years and it started,

572
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 1: like I can remember specifically, I want to say in

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Speaker 1: O nine if there was a home game against Carolina

574
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Speaker 1: in OH nine, this is the game I'm remembering. He

575
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: completely quit. It was one of the first times I

576
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: remembered Brady and the Patriots getting booted off the field

577
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: at after I was there for that one, and he

578
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: just he quit, and you could see that he wasn't

579
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: the same guy, wasn't playing the same way. He wasn't

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Speaker 1: the same guy. And then early in two thousand and

581
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: ten he had flashes. I think that catch that you're

582
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 1: talking about what the Jets happened early in two thousand

583
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: and ten, and he made some plays. And then there

584
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: was another game that he was not a part of

585
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: at all. I think the was the opener against Cincinnati

586
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: that year when the one you could put, you know,

587
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: the shoulders, you could put the earth on him. They

588
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: were on the cover side. Yeah, he had like no

589
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: interest whatsoever in the fact that they just won the game.

590
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: It was I'm not a part of this. And it deteriorated,

591
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: and they Bill recognized it and got rid of him immediately,

592
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: because that's when it goes bad. This is and it

593
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: goes bad not because Randy Moss can't play or can't

594
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: do because they love them and now they're gonna side

595
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: with him, so you got to remove them. So you

596
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: got to remove that problem before it festers. When do

597
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: you feel like that? When that started coming down the pike,

598
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: like I mean, oh nine, you start to get a

599
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: sense of it, And then I did. I used to

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Speaker 1: have I mean, this is gonna come as a surprise

601
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: to you guys, but I used to have arguments with

602
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: Fred that Randy Moss had had had quit, right and

603
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,959
Speaker 1: you don't know what you're talking about, ye, And then

604
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: he would make a catch, and of course that completely dismissed,

605
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: you know, anything that I had said, because I said

606
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: that he'll never make another catch again. When I said

607
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: that he'll he quit. So anyway, just a nice flashback

608
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: to you know, arguments of days gone by. Yeah, you could,

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00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: I just you could see there were times like I'm

610
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: gonna this is be ridiculous. The best regular season game

611
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 1: in OH seven the undefeated stretch was the one at

612
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: Indianapolis when two Titans going head to head, Haymaker after Haymaker,

613
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: back and forth. Colts are up by ten and the

614
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: four quarter Randy Moss made a catch over the middle

615
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: with one hand that was incredible. He quit on that play.

616
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: He had to catch it with one hand because he

617
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: didn't want to get hit, And I was like, that

618
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: was kind of like that's one of those if he

619
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Speaker 1: reaches the one hand out and it goes off his

620
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: hand and it gets picked off, and that's how the

621
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Speaker 1: game ends. Everybody's looking at it like that's Randy most

622
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: like Felger, that's Randy Moss. Instead it's an unbelievable one

623
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Speaker 1: handed catch. It's because that's Randy Moss. Because and to

624
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: which I would counter back with Mike Felger and say,

625
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: that's why I like talented players, you know. Um So

626
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: it was a good That was a good like a

627
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: little snapshot of Randy and I loved. I mean, I

628
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: wouldn't say I loved covering him because he never really talked.

629
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: He would talk once. He would say, you got three questions,

630
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: and someone once said what's going on? And he goes,

631
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: that's one. So like it wasn't exactly like a fun

632
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: guy to cover, but I mean, man, it was. It

633
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: was really cool to have a guy that good. Yeah,

634
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: you know that Brady was throwing too. I think the

635
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: only other guy that was that physically dominant that they've

636
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: had his gronk, right, like, just in terms of he

637
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: was just better than the other eleven defenders on the field,

638
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: And like you O seven, you just remember him just

639
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: running through like three or four guys and then he

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00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: would just be by the entire defense, Like it just

641
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: you have all these NFL players, all these corners that

642
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: have run four threes and stuff like that, trying to

643
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: keep up with him, and all of a sudden, you know,

644
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: they'd pan over and Moss would just be by himself

645
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: or he'd catch it between all three of the guys somehow,

646
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: and very first game, very first touchdown in the season,

647
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: he'd beat triple coverage. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, And that

648
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: was the start of it all. You're just like I

649
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: was even gonna just say preseason Gronk, I think rookie

650
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: year against the Rams like drag like three guys into

651
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: the end zone and like, I mean that was it.

652
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: You knew that this guy is gonna be that. You

653
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: didn't know to what level. I remember, but great stuff

654
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: out of Gronk the last couple of days. I don't

655
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: know if you guys have caught any of that, him

656
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: talking about being like on a whirlwind tour of teams.

657
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: This was like one of the last ones he came here.

658
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I know Bill has shared the story of

659
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: Gronk like passing out. Yeah, but Gronk kind of shed

660
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: some new light on it, saying he'd been you know,

661
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: Drake Getty was like ready to pass out. So, I mean,

662
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: it's a it's amazing that it worked out like that.

663
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: But um, I thought it was interesting that he said

664
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: that he would sign a one day contract with the

665
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: Patriots if they offered it to him. I like did

666
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: a double take when I saw that quote, and I

667
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: was like, so we got a question in the week. Yeah,

668
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: last week, you know was my week in the mail bag,

669
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: and someone said, you know, there's been a lot of

670
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: talk about Brady, But why wouldn't they do that with Gronk? Yeah,

671
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 1: you know who's never Brady of tight ends? Um yeah,

672
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: and it's kind of tough now, like to do it? Now,

673
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: what do you do before Brady? I just think I

674
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: just think the whole thing is one of those Will

675
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: did he ask are you offering? What do you think?

676
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: You know? It's I mean, it's one of those I

677
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: personally think that teams should never offer it to a player,

678
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: But if a player comes to a team and it's

679
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: something that you feel feel right about, then sure, what's it?

680
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: You know what's the difference. That's how it went down

681
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: with Will Fork, right was he came back and said, hey,

682
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: let's do this, and they did it. O. Yeah, there

683
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: were there were three players and Will Fork and McGinnis

684
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: wanted it, and here comes the famous costar fresh off

685
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: the social media minute. Um, so yeah, Will Fork and

686
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: McGinnis wanted it, and they had come to the Patriots

687
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: and they're like, yeah, sure, you know we could, we

688
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: could do this, and La there was another player who

689
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: didn't want it public So I'm I'm not going to

690
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: name the other player. Um, you can tell me off air, well,

691
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: I thought I already had. I don't think so. Um so.

692
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: I think that's kind of a funny dynamic behind the scenes.

693
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: I don't think teams necessarily go lobby their former players

694
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: and say, hey, would you you should coming back with

695
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: a ceremony for especially teams of the Patriots status. I

696
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: don't really. I mean, I just it goes back to

697
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: I don't really care about it the like ceremonial contract,

698
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: like I get him back. In exact, it's high up

699
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: today I usually put it lower. That's why how did

700
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: it go, Alex? I think it went okay. I didn't

701
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: have to do that many takes, which was cool. The

702
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 1: guys were hyping me up. I'm still shaking though. Really,

703
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,879
Speaker 1: yeah we were. What were your updates on, like Valentine say,

704
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,399
Speaker 1: we had some I've seen a lot of mac Jones

705
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 1: working out on the internet. That's been except little bit. Yeah.

706
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: We talked about Laurence guy winning a big Rachel Ray

707
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: competition with making some nachos. I saw that he won.

708
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: Look at me seeing stuff on social Larry Gay Larry,

709
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: did they have chicken in him or something? Because he

710
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: know he had like he is he because he put

711
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: shootizo in them. And wagou beef so that they were

712
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: some legitimate Was that the Portuguese pronunciation of Portuguese as

713
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:51,280
Speaker 1: shorty sure tortiso is more. I think the Mexazicane Spanish

714
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 1: way to say it, but shorty suit I know it's

715
00:34:53,920 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: like that's yeah, that's uh ah good stuff. Well, uh

716
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: give us a call a five five pm. Glad it went,

717
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 1: shoot usmails for the web radio assist them. Yeah, we

718
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: have to get Alex's opinion on the news of the day.

719
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 1: Though Joe Missoula longer Little Boss Celtics, I do love it.

720
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 1: I'm skeptical. Well, I don't know if you know this

721
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: about me, Evan, if he doesn't work, I wasn't an

722
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 1: emay girl. I mean not that surprising. Does that mean

723
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 1: I mean he never hit on you? Well no, okay,

724
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 1: I thought that made a different thing. Sorry. If you

725
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 1: go back to my first show, I was critical of

726
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 1: emay A Doka and that was like last year before

727
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: any of that stuff came out. I think a critical

728
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 1: certain line that I forgot a feel for his rotations.

729
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: I think Missoula has a better feel for the game.

730
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 1: I like his in game adjustments. I like when he

731
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: calls him out. There's a few things here and there

732
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: that I pick up, but I let me no one

733
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: calls one thank you. I'll see if I like when

734
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: he calls to like. So that's my my two biggest ccrips. Oh,

735
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: they'rerun a thirty eight to two run. You might want

736
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: to get a little break. But my two biggest scribes

737
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: with with Joe, and I think a lot of this

738
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: is related to him being a younger coach and he'll

739
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 1: figure it out as the time goes on. One, Jason

740
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: Tatum plays way too much, way too much. But did

741
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 1: you see Jason was mad yesterday? He was leaving the

742
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 1: game because he was two points away from forty. That

743
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: is something exactly, and that's why he got pulled with

744
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 1: thirty eight points. Oh yeah, thirty eight points with one

745
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 1: minute left to get two minutes after he tried to

746
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: get forty three times down the core and couldn't. Hey,

747
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: I have the same critique. I literally sat there and

748
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: I said, why is Jason Tatum still? He did the

749
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 1: same thing like three weeks ago. I was at the

750
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 1: game that they at the home game against the Hornets

751
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: with my father and me and my dad go to

752
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: a lot of games and I'm sitting there and I'm

753
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: We're both looking at each other. Why the heck is

754
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: JT still in this game? Well, and it's gonna come

755
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: back to bite them. I hope it doesn't knock on wood,

756
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: but like it could, and that that drives me nuts.

757
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: The other thing is is he's got to get better

758
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 1: at managing the end of the game because they're gonna

759
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 1: get into a playoff series. It's gonna be Game six

760
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: or Game seven of the NBA Finals and he's gonna

761
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: not call a time out and they're gonna blow the game.

762
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: Would you rather the situation we had last year at

763
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: the end of the game? I think they couldn't finish

764
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: a game last year. That's fair. Now we have the

765
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: Hospital Celtics bench lineup almost beating the Bucks and ot

766
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 1: because they know how to finish games now. But if

767
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: you had called that time out in overtime, do they

768
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: drop a good play and get a good look and

769
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: might actually win that game? Like? How she she changes that? Like?

770
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: I don't like emay, so we implode it down the

771
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,879
Speaker 1: stretch of games. I like Joe Maszula. So the fact

772
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: that we blew a five point later in overtime. Nothing

773
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: to see here, Okay, we look at the guys that

774
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: were on the who was on the floor, A lot

775
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: of Celtics. This is fun. Yeah, let's get off of it.

776
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 1: To this kid, my favorite line never I didn't want

777
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: a man sport. I'm just saying if I basketball is

778
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: one of those sports where talent, Like, if you have

779
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: a roster like the Celtics do, you're gonna be a

780
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: good basketball team. So he's in the margins, right, Like

781
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 1: he's got to coach him up in the margins to

782
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: be a championship team. And I just I don't know

783
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 1: if I've seen that, Like if you put me on

784
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 1: the bench with Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown and Marcus Smart,

785
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: like probably a playoff team. Well, especially if Smart missus

786
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,479
Speaker 1: twenty games like he has, then you're definitely like number

787
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: one seed in the league. I'm obviously, But Damon Stodemeyer,

788
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 1: can you know the assistant coach can probably coach? I

789
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: agree with you. I think there's two things to coaching

790
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 1: in the NBA, And talent is like ninety five percent,

791
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: and then can you make sure they are they going

792
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: to play hard most nights? And the Celtics play harder

793
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 1: than most of the teams that play against. That's the

794
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 1: best thing about him. He seems to really get the

795
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: energy in the ring. Like did you watch much of

796
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,479
Speaker 1: that Milwaukee game? Um, I watched most of the fourth quarter.

797
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: I wasn't home. Yeah, I think fourth quarter. I think

798
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: that was an amazing performance. I'm like a green team

799
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 1: or when it came to that game, I was like,

800
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: that was pretty cool. I mean more, it's basically our JV's,

801
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: you know, it's the Milwaukee spent Milwaukee spent the game

802
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: almost laughing, and then all of a sudden they were like,

803
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: holy bleep, we're gonna lose this game, right, you know,

804
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 1: And then they went on like a fourteen to two run,

805
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 1: and Missourla just said, nothing to see here, let's just

806
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: let it go. I do think that's a difference though,

807
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: between the what I've seen from the Celtics this year.

808
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,240
Speaker 1: Like the Celtics might keep it close against the backups

809
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: for a half, but this Celtics team, they would drop

810
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: the hammer in the second half, at least in the

811
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, Like they would not go to overtime against

812
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: Milwaukee's scrubs, that that would not happen. So I think

813
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: he's got a great Yeah. They've handled Milwaukee pretty well

814
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: in the regular season. They didn't not so much in

815
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: the playoffs. But in the regular season last year, you know,

816
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: like last year. In this year, they've they've owned them. Yeah,

817
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: owned Milwaukee, Milwaukee. All right, let's let's jump back over

818
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 1: to the phones. We got Tim's dying. Tim, Tim, save us,

819
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: take us back to the Patriots. What's going on? Hey,

820
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,439
Speaker 1: how are you doing? Guys? Good? Good. I'm just gonna

821
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 1: say I'm a Northeastern student. I was at the beam

822
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: pot on Monday. Paul, You're absolutely right. Should have been

823
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: continuous five on five until someone scored. It's such a

824
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: great game. Had to end like that. No, I don't

825
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 1: have any problem with the three on three either. I

826
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: the five minute three on three was awesome, but I

827
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: hate it. It was a great overtime. Yeah, it should

828
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: be five on five until someone scored. So, yeah, I

829
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: don't want that either. I don't want to. I don't

830
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: want to play a little bit. Yeah, I want someone

831
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 1: to score and ended. I don't want like those like

832
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: triple overtime games. To me. It just it was fantastic.

833
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: Twenty nineteen THEYDPU and double overtime. It was the best

834
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 1: game I've ever seen. I can't do anyway, I got

835
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: I got a question for you. Yeah, yeah, So I

836
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: live with three Tom Brady haters, full on Rogers is

837
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: the goat. Brady is a system quarterback, got carried for

838
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: twenty years by his defense, right, that's ridiculous. Their primary

839
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: argument is that wins and not a quarterback stat I

840
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: agree with that, But the defense thing for Brady is

841
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 1: apply ridiculous. The vast majority of his wins came with

842
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: crappy defense. Just everybody. Everybody remembers like oh one and

843
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: three and four, like twenty eleven, one of the worst

844
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 1: defenses I ever saw. He's in the super Bowl like that.

845
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: That argument for Brady is way off base. No, I agree.

846
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 1: So so here's what you gotta tell me. Tell me

847
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: why Brady is the goat without using win, you want

848
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: to do a little well, I'll just God, can I

849
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: see it up? And that's why I say well, I mean,

850
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: I just I've said this before about Brady. I think

851
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 1: for me, what sets him apart is just situationally, with

852
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: the game on the line, he consistently and especially in

853
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 1: Super Bowls, put up unstoppable performances, you know, and definitely

854
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: everything to do with the defense. But every single Super

855
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: Bowl that they had he made a drive at the

856
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: end to possibly and and and obviously six cases give

857
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: them the win. You know, I would say those moments.

858
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 1: I think that's a strong one. I think that that's

859
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 1: a great one for you, tim Is, you know, and

860
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: this is not just wins, but just crunch times. So

861
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:03,240
Speaker 1: you need you need to clutch score. Throw it against

862
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady and tell me you know

863
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 1: which one you would take. But for me, and this

864
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: is what I always say about Brady, Brady is the

865
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: guy who shows up and says, Okay, what are the

866
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 1: rules today? What we're gonna play? Indoors? Tom, Okay, what

867
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:18,919
Speaker 1: are the rules today? Oh, we're gonna play. It's gonna

868
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: be about thirty below and there's gonna be six inches

869
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: of snow in the ground. Okay, we're gonna throw the

870
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 1: ball fifty times. Okay, We're gonna run the ball every

871
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 1: play and play. Okay, He's gonna beat you no matter

872
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: what the parameters are. He wins under every single stat

873
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: across the board. He excels at his winning percentage is

874
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: ridiculous the same. That's to me, what separates Brady from

875
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 1: everybody else is like consistency. Everybody else needs the game

876
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: to go a certain way. He doesn't. Yeah, Brady can

877
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: beat you anyway. Absolutely. There you go, Tim, good luck

878
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: with our game with your roommates. Thanks for It's so

879
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 1: crazy people still have those archaic opinions and the year

880
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: of our Lord three Rodgers. Well, even like the d

881
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: defense one kind of bugs me because as you got

882
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: to like oh, five oh six, those defenses were a

883
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: product of the offense, and it was like that for

884
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: ten years, twelve years, not a small sample size. Yeah,

885
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:15,439
Speaker 1: the defense statistically was really strong because you scored thirty

886
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: five every game and the other team had to scramble

887
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: to try to score thirty five to keep up with you,

888
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 1: and sometimes they kept up with you for a little

889
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 1: while and then they turned it over. Like that's where

890
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: the Patriots played. That's how they played defense in twenty eleven.

891
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 1: Oh my god, they just held on and then you

892
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 1: just scored more points than they and they probably got

893
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: and they scored like five hundred and fifty points that year.

894
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: That's how they went to the Super Bowl. A lot

895
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: of picks too. I also what bothers me with Brady

896
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: is that people think that he's not physically talented, like

897
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 1: that that piece of it just they take like the

898
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 1: combine picture of him in the right look what he

899
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: came from and the fact that he didn't, you know,

900
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 1: run like a four to six playing quarterback or something

901
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 1: like that, And I just that just drives me absolutely

902
00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 1: nuts because there is not a better mechanical thrower of

903
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: the football and maybe in the history of the league

904
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: than Tom Brady. Like his mechanics are on the mount

905
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: rushmore like if you're a quarterbacks coach and you're like,

906
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 1: how should I throw a football? Coach, like, that's the

907
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 1: guy that you're pulling up tape of because he was

908
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: just absolutely pristine with all of it, from his feet

909
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 1: to his hips to his shoulders, all of it. Just

910
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 1: an absolutely beautiful throwing motion and generated a lot of

911
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,280
Speaker 1: velocity from that throwing motion too, and as it improved

912
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,240
Speaker 1: throughout his career, got a stronger and stronger and stronger

913
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: arm because of how clean he was with his mechanics.

914
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: So I always get bothered by people being like, oh, well,

915
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,240
Speaker 1: you know, he doesn't have that, He's not physically gifted

916
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: or he wasn't you know, tools or whatever. It's not

917
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 1: a runner everything else. He's got an immense physical gifts. Yeah.

918
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 1: How about the Northeastern women's Huskies hockey team. They took

919
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: the that really is the Northeastern invitation? Yeah, Like I

920
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: joke around about the men's because they've won four out

921
00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 1: of five and he's how many of the women still

922
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: have it? Eighteen? Wow, eighteen out of like forty something.

923
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,439
Speaker 1: I was standing really good program. Uh, let's go back

924
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: to the phones. Eldred and North Carolina Haldred. Hey, Fello's

925
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: how y'all doing? And lady, how y'all doing? Hey, I'm

926
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: a self defan too love him. But I did see

927
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: Jaylen Brown play other night. Is he hurt? Yeah? Broken

928
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 1: orbital bone and broken face. He's gonna have one of

929
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: those massive, one of those clear ones like from the nineties.

930
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: I think it's a black one. Batman, oh, batman? Okay,

931
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,919
Speaker 1: and Paul Sir, have to disagree with you about Randy

932
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 1: Moth from and you know, I knude they bathed him

933
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: out down all the offense and even why why they

934
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: faced him out because when they got when they got

935
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: grunk and they got Hernandez, they were too tidy is

936
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: with y'all? And even grunt and Nan said, Martha ran

937
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: decord so they can get open towards the middle, and

938
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: he got tad being decor. Mars wanted to beat Jimmy

939
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: Rice Rucket, but he couldn't do it with New England,

940
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 1: so he like did they traded him in all this

941
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 1: stuff because Billy Old faded him out down like they

942
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:12,399
Speaker 1: try to do Welcot. So two things that two things.

943
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: How many games did Randy Moss play with Rob Gronkowski

944
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: and Aaron Hernandez when they first started? When the first

945
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: to them out about what Devin eight? I mean, I'm

946
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,439
Speaker 1: gonna go four, but that's off the top of my head. First.

947
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 1: The second. The second thing I'll say is how did

948
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: Randy Moss do when he left? Oh? He was pissed

949
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: because I said, no know. How did he play? He went?

950
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: He was on a couple more teams after he was

951
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 1: on Minnesota, Tennessee, San Francisco. He was d He came

952
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: back and done. He did nothing. He did nothing when

953
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: he left started it started back here and even and

954
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: even um, even Big Bill when they did at football

955
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: Life said okay, if they're gonna fade out most and welcome,

956
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: we got describe another offense to come around. He said,

957
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 1: when we got to die, it definitely gone. If they

958
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,720
Speaker 1: cover Moss over the top and slammed down on Welker,

959
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 1: we have nothing to go to, is what he said.

960
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: And I'm paraphrasing, and we're done. But he didn't say

961
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 1: we're facing out Moss. No, yeah, he didn't say, you know,

962
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 1: he didn't say we're gonna face out mouth. But he

963
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 1: said we can't win if they cut him off. We

964
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: gotta do some milk tonight. And that was in oh

965
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: nine he kept complaining about And that was the year

966
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: before they traded him. They already knew he was tailing off.

967
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: He did like Eldred. Believe me, no one has more

968
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: respect for Randy Moss's ability than I do. I think

969
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: you want to talk about like we just talked about

970
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 1: Brady and the physical gifts and Aaron Rodgers probably both

971
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: physically get Randy Moss is probably the most physically gifted

972
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: wide receiver to ever play. He's not as good as

973
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: Jerry Rice, but he's probably a better physical athlete than

974
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 1: than than Jerry Right, Yes, everything, yeah, but uh yeah,

975
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 1: I know, but like he wanted that record. But when

976
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: they but when they did that, he faded out whatever

977
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 1: and they traded him whatever. It was another wide receiver

978
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: that beat that record. That to me, like I said,

979
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,280
Speaker 1: months have been are the more years you had that rucord?

980
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: And that's what he just got tired of being a deco.

981
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 1: Evens did that also, even Brady try to talk to

982
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,399
Speaker 1: him a little bit, but that didn't work. Like I said,

983
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: he's one of Hall of Famers and and he's like

984
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 1: yeas Hall of Famers like everybody were, oh you do that?

985
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: Was that? Well? Mount up? Take it easy, all right,

986
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 1: all right, biggie Big he loves him. He loves the

987
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: moss and he's like places, he loves it. He called

988
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: him the other day about Quentin Johnson from TCU. I'm

989
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: like a little bit, I've been really laughing at Phil

990
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 1: Perry and how like you guys are so diametrically opposite

991
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,800
Speaker 1: when it comes to him. Yeah, I've been in alger

992
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: causey don't like Quinton Johnson. What are you talking about? Like, sorry,

993
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: we pay you gotta have a pinions. Let's let's grab

994
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: Patty and Aguham. Hey, Patty has going in, Hey, what's

995
00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: up everyone? You just we're just chugging through this Thursday

996
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: show to be honest with you. All right, all right,

997
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: um pully, I'm with you. I'm I'm a lover of

998
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 1: talent part of me, and I think this team. I

999
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 1: know I sound like a broken di record, but I

1000
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 1: think we do need that alpha guy. We thought when

1001
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 1: we had the greatest player in NFL history here and

1002
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: years like two thousand and six, two and thirteen one,

1003
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: they didn't have like that big alpha dog. Yeah, Brady

1004
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 1: dragged them to the AFC Championship, but they couldn't close

1005
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: the deal because we didn't have those those big alpha

1006
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 1: dogs like freaking you know well they did, that's Grey

1007
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: Brown and oh six, but like Gronk or like Welker

1008
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:45,439
Speaker 1: or Randy Moss and I just you know, I want

1009
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 1: to see them. I don't I don't know where it's

1010
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 1: going to come from, but I would love to see

1011
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: them just swing like a crazy blockbuster deal for somebody. Evan,

1012
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: I know you're you're big justin Jefferson, guy Solem, I

1013
00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: I don't think that's in the card. Go him. Um,

1014
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: I'd be happy with Judy. I'd like to see what dude,

1015
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: he could do in the thought end, because yeah, so Mike,

1016
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: do you think if if Minnesota was gonna trade like

1017
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: their spot in the first round for the Patriots spot

1018
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: of the first you just watch switch spots, would you

1019
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: trade that's a that's a high price, pol How many

1020
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: first round picks can you give up for one player?

1021
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: That's what I would trade for man. I mean, he's

1022
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 1: my he's my son, Campbell's screensaver. He loves him too.

1023
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,399
Speaker 1: I mean that's we would get him here for sure.

1024
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 1: You'd have to give like a herschel Walker type deal

1025
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 1: back in the day done for him. To the content,

1026
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:36,959
Speaker 1: the gritty content, it would it would flow like wine.

1027
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: Thanks Patty. I'm gonna grab one more before we take

1028
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: a break for lunch so that we all can eat

1029
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,879
Speaker 1: our lunches. Thank you, Paul. It's my lunch right here.

1030
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: Going down to William and Philadelphia. Hey, William, how are

1031
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: you doing? Hey? What's what's going on? How you doing? Good? Good? Um?

1032
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 1: I got a question for Eld I'm sorry you just

1033
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:03,240
Speaker 1: miss home. And also to something that Elder said basically

1034
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: that I agree with, so um Edmonds, what's wrong with

1035
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 1: I mean, okay, so every time we get it is

1036
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 1: a toll receiver that we might want to get. You

1037
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 1: want to always connect them to Nick Hill, Harry. What

1038
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 1: if what if Quinton Johnson does be that dude? Are

1039
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: you going to backfed on and didn't stay? Oh well,

1040
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 1: I guess Will and Ell and everybody was saying something

1041
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: to you he turned out to be a stud, didn't

1042
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 1: with you know what I mean? I So, just to

1043
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 1: be clear, I think Quintin Johnson has a very very

1044
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: high chance of being a very good player in the NFL,

1045
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: not for the New England Patriots. Like that's I look

1046
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: at everything through Patriots Lens right, I would have Quintin

1047
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 1: Johnson is probably the best receiver in this draft if

1048
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 1: I was just straight up random team X. Okay, But

1049
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:53,800
Speaker 1: the problem is is that his flaws as a player

1050
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 1: are flaws that they have not successfully been able to

1051
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: coach up and develop and turn into strengths for play

1052
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: like route running, like separation ability at the first and

1053
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 1: second level of the defense. Those types of things are

1054
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 1: the reason why a lot of their busts at that

1055
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 1: position have busted. So I'm very weary of those types

1056
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: of players for them, simply because I don't think that

1057
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 1: they can develop them into good players. I think Quentin

1058
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: Johnson could go to Pittsburgh and probably be an absolute

1059
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Speaker 1: star for the Steelers, but the Patriots unfortunately are not

1060
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Speaker 1: that team. Is that because that because Tim Brown I

1061
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Speaker 1: don't know how to build up our receiver. I just

1062
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Speaker 1: don't think that that is an area other than really

1063
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Speaker 1: when they had Moss, who were just talking about. I

1064
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Speaker 1: just don't think that that's been a position or an

1065
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Speaker 1: area of the field that they have really amplified successfully

1066
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Speaker 1: at that position, other than when they had maybe the

1067
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Speaker 1: best deep threat of all time on their roster. So

1068
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Speaker 1: I just I don't think it's a part of their

1069
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1070
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Speaker 1: they're more of a team that does better with the

1071
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Speaker 1: route runners and the inside guys. Okay, um my last okay,

1072
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Speaker 1: So my last take and that's it after that. Um, So,

1073
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Speaker 1: what I told you yesterday about I guess saying short people,

1074
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1075
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1076
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Speaker 1: to get like points that's like over six foot And

1077
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Speaker 1: I have no problem with Ringo. If Ringo fall t

1078
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Speaker 1: take him and I mean if if if our boards off,

1079
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1080
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Speaker 1: But if he's off and Ringer's right there, I don't

1081
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Speaker 1: have a problem with that. Six two from Georgia. I

1082
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Speaker 1: don't have a problem with that at all. I don't. Yeah, yea,

1083
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Speaker 1: y'all agree with you. Size of the corner. I think

1084
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Speaker 1: it's a little bit of an issue. Yeah, yeah, Like

1085
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Speaker 1: I just said, all three Joneses, you know, they're they're

1086
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Speaker 1: they're a little small. Even Jayleen was six feet. It's

1087
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Speaker 1: not like he's sixty three. Yeah, But with Ringo is

1088
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Speaker 1: his biggest issue is change of direction. That guy he

1089
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Speaker 1: can't he can't stop like and that's it's honestly something

1090
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Speaker 1: that I've learned more about in the last couple of years.

1091
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Speaker 1: But with fivers and corners, I know it sounds ridiculous,

1092
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1093
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Speaker 1: speed is like actually a very big part of that

1094
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Speaker 1: those two positions. And he's one of those guys where

1095
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Speaker 1: they'll get vertical on him and then when they cut

1096
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1097
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1098
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1099
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1100
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Speaker 1: have concerns about that with his game in particular. But

1101
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1102
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Speaker 1: like that's not a problem, and this one j Joey

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1104
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1105
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1106
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Speaker 1: this draft. With that body before we go to the break,

1107
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1108
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1109
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1110
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1112
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1113
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Speaker 1: right now that you think is really good that you

1114
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1115
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Speaker 1: Like I'm right off something hit like Mike Evans. It's

1116
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Speaker 1: a good one. Mike Evans. Is that you know, tall

1117
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1118
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Speaker 1: good career with Tampa. Some people have sort of wondered

1119
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1120
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Speaker 1: you be interested in would would that be a guy

1121
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Speaker 1: that falls into that category. Yeah, that's a good one.

1122
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Speaker 1: five G network of the New England Patriots. No great

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Speaker 1: moments in history saying whoo whoo Fred's back. Does that

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Speaker 1: mean we will get American emails? Read today? Oh the

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Speaker 1: out of country emails? I read that. I read the

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Speaker 1: good ones that come in. It's like that guy, the

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Speaker 1: guy and American ones are good. No, I read no

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Speaker 1: gyms aren't good. I read the good ones that commit.

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Speaker 1: It's like the guy in Norwood, Fred that was originally

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Speaker 1: from the UK. Hey, yeah, Eric doesn't like him, Like,

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Speaker 1: why would you ever go from there? To hear? Right? Fred,

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Speaker 1: I can't wait till the next time. You're not here

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Speaker 1: because I'm not hosting. Oh, tough guy, Paul, You guys

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Speaker 1: can fight. Tough guy Paul can sit over there and

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Speaker 1: bring all the energy he wants is up, So take

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Speaker 1: some vacation next week. What tough one? Paul can sit

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Speaker 1: over there, but all the energy he wants. I never

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Speaker 1: dug a hole before, and it's just that hard to

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Speaker 1: rejails and take calls. I'll do it the next time,

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Speaker 1: all right, No, no problem that the energy you're looking for.

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Speaker 1: That's another great moment from yep, and there it was.

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Speaker 1: That's how that's how your boy do. So end it

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Speaker 1: up here because Eric, Eric was out, so he was

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Speaker 1: done with hosting. Paul missed the whole Rejoiner, so he's

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Speaker 1: he's born Eric complaining about not reading international emails and

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Speaker 1: you were giving a little guf for it. You don't

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Speaker 1: have to put any more in there, just Eric complaining,

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Speaker 1: Eric complaining. I get it. I can only imagine what

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Speaker 1: Fred's gonna say to me what I did. Well? Is

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Speaker 1: he listening, you think down in a rub but does

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Speaker 1: he check in? Is he monitor? I hope monitor his

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Speaker 1: World's Original pod podcast. He answered one of my emails,

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Speaker 1: so I think he's kind of online doing little work.

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Speaker 1: I hope he's just at the beach. I went back

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Speaker 1: and forth with him on text yesterday about something not

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Speaker 1: not show related, but I in the back of my mind,

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Speaker 1: I was like, you're in a Ruba, what are you doing?

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Speaker 1: What are you doing? Just to be fair, like if

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Speaker 1: you're just sitting at the beach or at the pool

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Speaker 1: like for like six straight hours like el, so you

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Speaker 1: really doing? Besides, there's nothing else I need to do

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Speaker 1: Patriots Unfiltered, Right, I got mid Lice to the left

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Speaker 1: and I got a book. Right. I'm all set. Man.

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Speaker 1: We got a big vacation year this year. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I know, I'm excited. I'm going amazing. Yeah, now we awesome.

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking about going to Malden. It's a it's a

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Speaker 1: big year, big year. And uh, let's grab calling here

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Speaker 1: because he's calling in from Kansas City and just calling.

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Speaker 1: I hope you're not calling in from the parade. You

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Speaker 1: didn't go to the parade yesterday, did you? Oh? I

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Speaker 1: want I wanted to give you guys a little conditions

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Speaker 1: on the ground. Yeah, please, um, because I listened to

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Speaker 1: Tuesday's show and I really appreciated the perspective you guys. Um,

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Speaker 1: I just want to clarify my experience. Kansas City fans

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01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:31,559
Speaker 1: are quick to make the Brady comparison. Flash, the Homes

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Speaker 1: is not born than Brady. Yeah, the phone she's not working.

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Speaker 1: I think he's basically saying, Kansas City fans are very

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Speaker 1: much willing to do the thank call. We're gonna let

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Speaker 1: you go. The Mahomes is ready to supplant Tom Brady. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: which I mean, I have to be honest, I'd be

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01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:53,680
Speaker 1: doing that sure if I was a Kansas City fan.

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Speaker 1: I did it. We got I did it with Brady

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Speaker 1: in Montana before he won four Super Bowls. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I just I think he's really good, and I mean,

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Speaker 1: they can do whatever they want, but I think he's

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01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:06,720
Speaker 1: got so much of his career ahead of them that

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Speaker 1: you don't know how it's going to go. And I

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Speaker 1: think that's the thing that like I think Buffalo is

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Speaker 1: learning this, I think Kansas City has has learned it

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Speaker 1: a little bit. It's when you get to that point

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Speaker 1: like the Patriots were where like you used to say, Paul,

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Speaker 1: it's like, we're gonna be in the the AFC, They're

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Speaker 1: gonna be in a conference championship every single year, and

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Speaker 1: it's just a question of a couple of key injuries,

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Speaker 1: a couple key plays, and that's what's going to determine

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Speaker 1: how many Super Bowls you kind of get in this

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Speaker 1: little area. And it's really competitive. And I liken it

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Speaker 1: to the first part of the Patriots dynasty, the one

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Speaker 1: three oh four you had Pittsburgh was an absolute powerhouse.

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Speaker 1: You had Tennessee with Steve mcnao's the MVP powerhouse. Indianapolis

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Speaker 1: with Peyton Manning powerhouse. That's what you're going through. Now.

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Speaker 1: It's Cincinnati, Buffalo, Kansas City. Like you can be really good,

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Speaker 1: you could be capable of winning the super Bowl and

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Speaker 1: not even get to the conference championship game because it's

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Speaker 1: really hard. And that's you know, Brady had to go

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Speaker 1: through that gauntlet and he came out every time, every time,

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Speaker 1: three years and three times and four years. It's such

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01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:09,400
Speaker 1: a weird place to go to. I mean, it takes

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Speaker 1: some adjustment because we're now back in the place where, hey,

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Speaker 1: we made the playoffs. Like Jacksonville, you know, like they're

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Speaker 1: coming off of that season being like, man, what an

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Speaker 1: ending for us? Like we feel great. That's like an

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01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 1: uber disappointing season for the Bills, you know, so they're

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Speaker 1: now experiencing, hey, it's not just about making the playoffs

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Speaker 1: next year, and next year Jacksonville will be looking to

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Speaker 1: get better, right or they'll be like Buffalo, Like Buffalo

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Speaker 1: was disappointed as all hell when they lost in the

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Speaker 1: Division around with thirteen seconds left and they go to overtime,

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Speaker 1: because that was the year after they had gone to

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Speaker 1: the conference championship, so that was technically a step back,

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Speaker 1: but I don't step back. But this year was a

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Speaker 1: much bigger step back, even though they lost in the

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Speaker 1: same round, you know, because they weren't even they didn't

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Speaker 1: even have a chance to win at home. Yeah, here

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Speaker 1: Colin's back, a better connection. Hey Colin, Hey, I'm sorry

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Speaker 1: about that. All good? You sound good. Now Here's here's

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Speaker 1: the point I wanted to make. Okay, because you know,

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Speaker 1: with the Pats and their run, you know, obviously we

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Speaker 1: compared Brady to Montana. But the difference with this one

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Speaker 1: is that we actually got to see Brady versus Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: And so I just feel like it's not being said.

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Speaker 1: And maybe I'm just defensive, but if Mahomes get seven,

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Speaker 1: Brady as a tiebreaker, I mean two of their the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs probably could have won two Super Bowls if if

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Speaker 1: it weren't for Brady, if you factor in twenty eighteen

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01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 1: and uh Brady with the Bucks anyway, That's all I'm saying. Yeah, okay, um,

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Speaker 1: I got an answer. I got an answer to the question.

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Speaker 1: Is Fred kersh paying attention? Oh? Yes? Checked in the answer.

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Speaker 1: Unhappy he wants to report and something that he and

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Speaker 1: I absolutely agree on. Don't forget we should also count

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Speaker 1: two thousand and six is another super Bowl for Brady

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Speaker 1: because there's no way they would have lost the Chicago

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Speaker 1: there you go. Where are we at? Eight? Now? We

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Speaker 1: got eight? Um? The only thing I would say about that, Like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: So Brady beat Mahomes in the playoffs twice, right, Mahomes

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Speaker 1: beat Brady too in regular season game? Right? He beat him?

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Speaker 1: Did he beat him? Never beat him? Here with the

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Speaker 1: Nick Hill Harry thing where he set out of bound, right, Okay,

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Speaker 1: so we're going with So that's that. That's the tiebreaker.

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Speaker 1: So is Peyton Manning better than Brady because he beat

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Speaker 1: Brady more often than not in the playoffs, like sixty

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Speaker 1: percent of the time he beat Brady in the play

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Speaker 1: Like I I don't, I don't do that, Like I

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Speaker 1: think Brady is Yeah, Like I just it's taking don't care.

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Speaker 1: So Mahomes this first year as a starter, he goes

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Speaker 1: toe to toe with the greatest player who's ever played

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Speaker 1: and loses an epic fashion without having the opportunity to

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Speaker 1: touch the ball in overtime, And that means that Brady

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Speaker 1: is better than Mahomes like the first Like, I just

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Speaker 1: think it takes all the fun out of it if

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Speaker 1: he goes to if he wins seven Super Bowls, he's

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Speaker 1: going to have better numbers than Brady. Yes, and we're

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Speaker 1: gonna say the tide breaker was when he was first

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Speaker 1: a starter, Brady beat him, So that means he's better.

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Speaker 1: I think that that is. Look, I love Tom Brady.

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady is the goat. But the one thing that

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Speaker 1: you have to give to Mahomes that he was putting

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01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 1: up numbers instantly, right like Mahomes's first season the starter

1439
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Speaker 1: was not two thousand and one for Brady right right,

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Speaker 1: Like he's MVP of the league as the first year

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Speaker 1: as the starter. That that's a different, different level I

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Speaker 1: I but ultimately like I just don't care, like I

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01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:46,439
Speaker 1: just these arguments to me are just like none of it.

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Speaker 1: There's no committee, there's no formula that gets to decide

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Speaker 1: who's actually better than the other guys. One, it's not

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Speaker 1: funny hate people. That's why the whole wins is. I

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Speaker 1: agree with that, Like, wins is not a quarterback stat

1448
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:04,280
Speaker 1: to me, now, there's something to be said to the

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Speaker 1: guy who wins every time. I get that. But to me,

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Speaker 1: I like, and Fred acts this is something Fred also

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Speaker 1: agrees with me. On when unnecessarily talking a relation to Brady.

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Speaker 1: But Joe Montana, why does everybody think he's the best

1453
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Speaker 1: because he won four titles. I'll take John Elway over

1454
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:23,880
Speaker 1: Joe Montana. John Elway was the most gifted quarterback I

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Speaker 1: ever watched when I was a kid, and no one

1456
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Speaker 1: ever thinks of John Elway as the greatest ever. But

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Speaker 1: he was a combination of incredible athleticism with a rocket

1458
01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:41,000
Speaker 1: arm and just carrying the carcass of a terrible team

1459
01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:44,840
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl throughout the eighties and they would

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Speaker 1: get there and they would lose to a vastly superior

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Speaker 1: NFC team because that was the run of NFC dominance

1462
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Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. But no one ever says that

1463
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Speaker 1: John Elway is that good because he doesn't have the

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Speaker 1: numbers to back it up the wins. Yeah, what changed?

1465
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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously Terrell Davis and the run game when

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Speaker 1: they finally did get those Super Bowls. But I was

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Speaker 1: I was thinking a little bit, and maybe I'm off base,

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Speaker 1: but I was almost comparing how I kind of feel

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Speaker 1: about Josh Allen right now, which is that he's trying

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Speaker 1: to do it all himself and it feels like it's

1471
01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 1: going to be really hard for him to really thread

1472
01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 1: the needle to win a Super Bowl playing like this,

1473
01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:18,759
Speaker 1: and and part of me wondered if that maybe relates

1474
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:21,280
Speaker 1: to what Elway was when he was young and could

1475
01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:23,760
Speaker 1: do everything, but then he got a little bit older

1476
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:25,320
Speaker 1: and he couldn't do as much. And did do you

1477
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:28,280
Speaker 1: feel like he played more within himself and more within

1478
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:30,640
Speaker 1: the team and not trying to do everything himself? Like,

1479
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, that was something I was just thinking

1480
01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:34,479
Speaker 1: about a comparison. I don't know the answer to it.

1481
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:36,840
Speaker 1: I think the other teams that they played weren't as

1482
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 1: good as they were when he was trying to do

1483
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:41,840
Speaker 1: it all. I think he did what was a do

1484
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:44,880
Speaker 1: it all? He was that good? Yeah, he was that good. Yeah,

1485
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 1: killing the Patriots. If were you there for that one?

1486
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:51,439
Speaker 1: I was there. Yikes, that was a season ticket year. Yeah.

1487
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:55,120
Speaker 1: I rememberably pulling the guy behind us down his head

1488
01:15:55,160 --> 01:15:57,600
Speaker 1: into the side of the tunnel. For me, that was

1489
01:15:57,680 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 1: one of the first like losses that actually heard happened.

1490
01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:02,479
Speaker 1: That was like at that point you felt like the

1491
01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:04,760
Speaker 1: Patriots are pretty good now and and a loss can

1492
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:06,800
Speaker 1: actually hurt me now, Like I remember being like really

1493
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:09,360
Speaker 1: being pissed about Shannon Sharpe and all that. You know

1494
01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 1: that he was saying on the sidelines, like whereas like

1495
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:12,800
Speaker 1: four years earlier they were wining like two games and

1496
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:16,040
Speaker 1: who even really cared? Jump over the back to the

1497
01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 1: phone's Joel Ael, I'm sorry you good? Hey? Yeah? Um so, Paul,

1498
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:25,840
Speaker 1: you're a question about the super Bowl. I wouldn't pay

1499
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:30,719
Speaker 1: for the super Bowl just because, um, it just doesn't

1500
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:34,840
Speaker 1: seem right. It's gonna alienate the fan bases all over

1501
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:39,880
Speaker 1: and they should probably focus in on expanding or doing

1502
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:42,400
Speaker 1: something more like that overseas and then bringing that in

1503
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:46,200
Speaker 1: because you probably alienate them as well. Yeah. I think

1504
01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:49,640
Speaker 1: it's an interesting concept, Alex. Before you joined us, this

1505
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:53,360
Speaker 1: some talk. Um, I don't know how serious it is

1506
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:56,720
Speaker 1: about potentially having the Super Bowl go to a pay

1507
01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 1: per view model, like two hundred and fifty dollars to

1508
01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:06,400
Speaker 1: watch the super Bowl reaction you Evan was. Evan was

1509
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:07,840
Speaker 1: out until he realized that you might be able to

1510
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:10,000
Speaker 1: get a separate telecast of just the All twenty two,

1511
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 1: and then he was in. Now he's in for about

1512
01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 1: you know, I'd pay for that where they do the

1513
01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 1: All twenty two on the halftime show two or would

1514
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:18,599
Speaker 1: that with that? I want to see the All twenty

1515
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:21,040
Speaker 1: two and then can I like, can I DVR it

1516
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 1: so that I can scrub through it on my own?

1517
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 1: That's an extra four. Like it was easily identifiable because

1518
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:28,560
Speaker 1: Rihanna was the one in red, so even at the

1519
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:31,080
Speaker 1: All twenty the pregnant lady, and you could see which

1520
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:33,320
Speaker 1: one scared fow why do they want to do that?

1521
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:35,280
Speaker 1: What's the benefit? Why? Why is that better than what

1522
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:38,080
Speaker 1: they haven't asked? Why does anyone want to do anything? Money?

1523
01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:42,840
Speaker 1: How can we squeeze? How can we squeeze more out?

1524
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:45,599
Speaker 1: So if you have like one hundred and ten million

1525
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 1: people watching the Super Bowl and you get you know,

1526
01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:52,160
Speaker 1: half of those at two hundred and fifty a pop,

1527
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:55,960
Speaker 1: you can see the money you could make. Now, I

1528
01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:59,040
Speaker 1: don't know if that's anything that would ever happen, And

1529
01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it's easy to sit there

1530
01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:05,040
Speaker 1: and say like I wouldn't get that. I don't think

1531
01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:08,640
Speaker 1: I would. I really don't. But I don't know if

1532
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:10,080
Speaker 1: every you know, like, what what do you do on

1533
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:13,599
Speaker 1: Super Bowl Sunday? Everybody else is watching the game. You're

1534
01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:15,400
Speaker 1: not gonna watch it? You know, you'd probably figure out

1535
01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:17,479
Speaker 1: like no, no, no, you get it, you get it.

1536
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:22,560
Speaker 1: Everybody comes over, everybody kicks in ten counter programming. You know,

1537
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:24,760
Speaker 1: you just try to something else at that time. L

1538
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:27,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. I like how it's just basic cable

1539
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:30,639
Speaker 1: accessible to everyone. It's a bad I mean, wouldn't change

1540
01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:32,960
Speaker 1: a bad look, but you would have to get rid

1541
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 1: of that commercials. Well, everyone around the world watch what

1542
01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:38,760
Speaker 1: Greg Hill said. He goes, well, if you if you're

1543
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 1: making me do that, you better get rid of them.

1544
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:43,280
Speaker 1: But the commercials is part of the experience super Bowl, right,

1545
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 1: and it's like, what do you do in all the breaks.

1546
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:47,519
Speaker 1: I don't know. If you lost all the revenue from

1547
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 1: the from the ads, then it's a wash too, because

1548
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:53,560
Speaker 1: now you're just getting it back with subs, right, you know.

1549
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:56,920
Speaker 1: I like the commercials. So one time I like the commercials.

1550
01:18:57,280 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 1: I think they'd run into a lot more people pirate

1551
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:03,880
Speaker 1: streams and they'd think, yeah, oh sure, uh jump over

1552
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:05,719
Speaker 1: to the emails. And I just want to say, Evan

1553
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:07,479
Speaker 1: and An Alex we'll be doing all twenty two. So

1554
01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:09,479
Speaker 1: all these emails that we're getting to yell at Evan

1555
01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:14,880
Speaker 1: about his U dislike a certain Quentin Johnson receivers, M

1556
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:17,080
Speaker 1: I'll leave those for you to go through. You can,

1557
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:20,400
Speaker 1: you can, we can read one? Oh is that after

1558
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:22,720
Speaker 1: coming up right away? After well one of these we

1559
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:25,600
Speaker 1: got Cole from Eugenie Ogun. He was already ready, he

1560
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 1: was eleven thirty, he was already emailing before the show

1561
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:31,920
Speaker 1: based on last show. So oh, I'll leave that. I'll

1562
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 1: leave that one. But Russell in Arkansas writes in on

1563
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:37,200
Speaker 1: the topic of receivers, everyone has talked about adding either

1564
01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:39,719
Speaker 1: Hopkins or Higgins in the offseason. What are your thoughts

1565
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:43,040
Speaker 1: on adding a guy like Juju Smith, Schuster, McCole, Hartman

1566
01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:46,679
Speaker 1: or DJ Chark all potential free agents and definite upgrades

1567
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 1: over Agalore maybe Parker definite upgrades. And also he's mentioning

1568
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:53,240
Speaker 1: the report from from the guy from Paul Show, Jimmie

1569
01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 1: James Stewart saying that the Patriots have been sniffing around,

1570
01:19:57,160 --> 01:20:00,639
Speaker 1: sniffing around Samuel. I don't know what that means exactly,

1571
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:06,080
Speaker 1: any any comment on that's nothing? First of all, Juju Smith, Schuster,

1572
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:10,280
Speaker 1: DJ Chark, and who's the other one better upgrade? I

1573
01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 1: just deleted it on maybe on TikTok and clean your

1574
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:17,200
Speaker 1: trash full day. I mean, we're specifically, you don't think

1575
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 1: they're better than Agalore, better than what they've gotten out

1576
01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:26,200
Speaker 1: of Agalore. Sure better than what Aglar was supposed to

1577
01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:27,920
Speaker 1: be when they signed him two years ago. I think

1578
01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:30,400
Speaker 1: Gagalore had one good season in his entire career and

1579
01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:33,200
Speaker 1: Mike Mike do So did a deep dive on it.

1580
01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:36,160
Speaker 1: Found out there were a lot of flukey plays off

1581
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 1: scripts that Derek Carr broke containment and threw bombs to him.

1582
01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:43,760
Speaker 1: He had a good Super Bowl against US Ish. I

1583
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:45,719
Speaker 1: was watching that game the other day and the numbers

1584
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:49,200
Speaker 1: are there. There's some huge, huge drops in that game

1585
01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:51,599
Speaker 1: for him. They didn't like him very much in Philly.

1586
01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:55,880
Speaker 1: They hated him in Philly. But no, no, just we

1587
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:59,479
Speaker 1: gotta aim higher, folks. We gotta aim higher than than

1588
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:04,120
Speaker 1: DJ Shark and tick mister TikTok, Like, we gotta aim

1589
01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:08,240
Speaker 1: higher than those guys, all right, we gotta is that

1590
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 1: a little Antonio Brown a J. Brown, Well, no, Juju

1591
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:15,880
Speaker 1: was talking snack on Twitter and kind of made himself

1592
01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:17,599
Speaker 1: look like a fool. That was he is a fool,

1593
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:20,519
Speaker 1: the one I was a b That's Antonio Brown, isn't it?

1594
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 1: Isn't it? J. Brown clap A J. Brown Okay, I

1595
01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:30,320
Speaker 1: did not see that. I mean he is TikTok boy.

1596
01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:33,120
Speaker 1: It's very accurate. But yeah, they went back and forth

1597
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:37,680
Speaker 1: on him about he he posted Juju posted a Valentine's

1598
01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:43,280
Speaker 1: Day card James Bradberry's face on it. That's saying, you know,

1599
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:49,400
Speaker 1: I'll hold you tight. Yeah, we'll get that in post. Yeah,

1600
01:21:49,439 --> 01:21:52,800
Speaker 1: I'll hold you when it matters most James. That's that's

1601
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:56,120
Speaker 1: really right. So the Eagles players obviously came to brad

1602
01:21:56,160 --> 01:21:58,960
Speaker 1: Berry's defense, especially the way Brad Burready handled that. He

1603
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:02,599
Speaker 1: didn't deserve that out. No, but back to the email,

1604
01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:04,640
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be able to do my juju uh

1605
01:22:05,439 --> 01:22:07,439
Speaker 1: combine post this year? Then, is that what you're telling him?

1606
01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:09,120
Speaker 1: I no, No, it was a gold mine last year.

1607
01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:12,439
Speaker 1: Uh well, along those lines, Anthony, he writes in he's

1608
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 1: got some some based on each group, what would you do? So?

1609
01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:18,360
Speaker 1: Option this is question one. You got three options. The

1610
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:20,880
Speaker 1: first one is trade draft assets third round pick this

1611
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 1: year in a future second for Jerry Judy. Option two,

1612
01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:27,000
Speaker 1: use the fourteenth pick on the best available wide receiver

1613
01:22:27,160 --> 01:22:30,400
Speaker 1: Jordan Addison or from USC or Quentin Johnson. You know,

1614
01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 1: having fields resign, resign Jacoby Myers, and try to find

1615
01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 1: a sleeper in the third or fourth rount. I'm gonna

1616
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:40,680
Speaker 1: say mid, I'm gonna say number two. But I'm with

1617
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:45,800
Speaker 1: Evan on on Johnston. So I would personally, I would

1618
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 1: like to see them trade for a veteran receiver. We're

1619
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:50,600
Speaker 1: going to talk about this on Catch twenty two, so

1620
01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:52,320
Speaker 1: I don't want to give the whole take, but good

1621
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:55,439
Speaker 1: I would prefer for them to try to trade for

1622
01:22:55,479 --> 01:22:59,559
Speaker 1: a veteran receiver, whatever combination of picks there that ends

1623
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:03,000
Speaker 1: up being than whatever it takes. It takes, But that's

1624
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:05,679
Speaker 1: what I would like to see them do because quite frankly,

1625
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:07,800
Speaker 1: I've just lost all faith in them drafting one and

1626
01:23:07,880 --> 01:23:10,280
Speaker 1: developing one. That's the easiest route, that's the cheapest route,

1627
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:13,000
Speaker 1: that's the best route for the for the franchise in

1628
01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:17,720
Speaker 1: terms of, you know, just asset allocation. But until they

1629
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:21,360
Speaker 1: prove otherwise otherwise that they can actually go out draft,

1630
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:25,439
Speaker 1: hit on the draft pick, develop that player and produced

1631
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:31,639
Speaker 1: a good talent at receiver, I can't count on that, Yeah, Judy,

1632
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:34,439
Speaker 1: I mean I also saw um that I guess Hawkins

1633
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:37,639
Speaker 1: because of a suspension. I saw today his no trade clause.

1634
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:40,639
Speaker 1: I don't really know why that why is that relevant?

1635
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:44,000
Speaker 1: I guess that way that Nickossario could just ship them

1636
01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:46,520
Speaker 1: here without having to get his signed off in Arizona.

1637
01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:49,800
Speaker 1: Oh sorry, what am I doing? Am I doing? Um?

1638
01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:53,599
Speaker 1: I mean I guess people the other there was another Patriot.

1639
01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 1: Let's just because another Patriots guy in Arizona them, Yes

1640
01:23:57,120 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 1: there is. But my guess is if Arizona, I mean,

1641
01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:04,800
Speaker 1: if Hopkins gets traded to the Patriots and now he

1642
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:07,640
Speaker 1: doesn't never say my guesses of people saying if he

1643
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:09,320
Speaker 1: still had the no trade, he would balk at a

1644
01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:12,000
Speaker 1: trade to the Patriots because of Billio, right, right, So

1645
01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 1: that's the theory. Do you want him to get force

1646
01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:17,280
Speaker 1: fed traded to the Patriots when he doesn't want to

1647
01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:19,800
Speaker 1: come here. I'm actually like, to me, that's a worse

1648
01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:22,360
Speaker 1: situation if he had the no trade and he waved it.

1649
01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:24,479
Speaker 1: At least now I know what I'm getting. I'm not

1650
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:27,240
Speaker 1: in love with DeAndre Hopkins because of his age. I

1651
01:24:27,439 --> 01:24:30,080
Speaker 1: just know. I know that's I would think I would

1652
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:32,800
Speaker 1: prefer for them to be trading for guys like Judy,

1653
01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:35,800
Speaker 1: like Higgins who are twenty five, twenty six coming into

1654
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:40,840
Speaker 1: their primes. But I actually don't think that Hopkins's relationship

1655
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:43,920
Speaker 1: with Billio is going to be that big of a

1656
01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:48,360
Speaker 1: detriment to the Patriots being able to acquire DeAndre Hopkins

1657
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:51,479
Speaker 1: in a trade. At the end of the day, I

1658
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:56,080
Speaker 1: think one Belichick and Hopkins have a little bit of

1659
01:24:56,200 --> 01:24:59,040
Speaker 1: a thing going on there that I think would would

1660
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:01,880
Speaker 1: maybe circumvent that a little bit. And too, if you

1661
01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:04,120
Speaker 1: pay him the most money, he's gonna come. Well, yeah,

1662
01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 1: if you pay like I get an argument with my

1663
01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:09,160
Speaker 1: boy about that all the time too, because he thinks

1664
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:11,599
Speaker 1: that I overrate that stuff. But yeah, if you pay

1665
01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:13,160
Speaker 1: him the most money, you can get anybody you want.

1666
01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:15,040
Speaker 1: If you pay the most money, there's going to be

1667
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:16,760
Speaker 1: one percent of the guys out there to say, no,

1668
01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:18,160
Speaker 1: that's not the right fit for me. I'm going to

1669
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:20,920
Speaker 1: take less to go somewhere that's better for me. The

1670
01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:23,080
Speaker 1: guys will take the most money, right, So that just

1671
01:25:23,160 --> 01:25:25,519
Speaker 1: makes you like everybody else. It used to not be

1672
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:28,599
Speaker 1: that way. You didn't have to rely on paying more

1673
01:25:28,680 --> 01:25:31,479
Speaker 1: than everybody else to get guys. I'll never forget Matthew

1674
01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 1: Judon's very first press conference as a Patriot. It was

1675
01:25:35,439 --> 01:25:38,559
Speaker 1: a video conference because it's during COVID but his very

1676
01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:41,479
Speaker 1: first press conference as a Patriot, somebody asked him, why

1677
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:43,280
Speaker 1: did you sign with the Patriots? And he said, they

1678
01:25:43,320 --> 01:25:45,400
Speaker 1: offered me the most money yea, and which is point

1679
01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:47,880
Speaker 1: blank they offered Kendrick Boyen said the same thing, and

1680
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:50,080
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, Matthew Judons ended up

1681
01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:52,479
Speaker 1: being a really good Patriot and it's worked out, yeah,

1682
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:56,280
Speaker 1: very well. Absolutely. It's it's not necessarily an indictment of

1683
01:25:56,320 --> 01:25:58,960
Speaker 1: the signing, but that's how you have to sign players now,

1684
01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:05,240
Speaker 1: just like everybody honesty with him. I wanted to get

1685
01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:07,439
Speaker 1: back to the thing that we threw out there before

1686
01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:09,680
Speaker 1: the break. I've been thinking about this a lot. I

1687
01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:11,160
Speaker 1: wanted to give you some time to think about it

1688
01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:16,679
Speaker 1: because I agree with evans take on there are certain

1689
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:21,400
Speaker 1: receivers that haven't necessarily been great fits um in New England.

1690
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:28,040
Speaker 1: You know, Randy Moss being an enormous exception. Do you

1691
01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:30,960
Speaker 1: think that's an indicative, like indicative at all of the

1692
01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:33,400
Speaker 1: need to change a little bit of what they do offensively?

1693
01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:37,320
Speaker 1: I think if that guy if Quintin Johnson, it's Quintin Johnson, right,

1694
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:40,479
Speaker 1: if he comes into the league with Pittsburgh as you

1695
01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:43,519
Speaker 1: used as a hypothetical and rips it up. But you

1696
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:45,320
Speaker 1: don't think that he would do that with the Patriots?

1697
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:48,000
Speaker 1: Isn't that a problem? I think it's slightly a problem.

1698
01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:50,960
Speaker 1: I think that you could probably say that about some

1699
01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:53,080
Speaker 1: other places though, where like they have a type, right,

1700
01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:56,800
Speaker 1: and whether it's receivers, corners, like whatever position it is,

1701
01:26:57,080 --> 01:26:59,880
Speaker 1: like you're not going to draft three four nos tack

1702
01:27:00,160 --> 01:27:02,640
Speaker 1: to play in in a four three one gap system, right, Like,

1703
01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:06,840
Speaker 1: that's so everybody has a type. I think with guys

1704
01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:08,600
Speaker 1: you know you asked me, like, who's the guy that

1705
01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:11,200
Speaker 1: you wouldn't want the Patriots to acquire? I think a

1706
01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 1: lot of guys that have reached that certain line of

1707
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:17,920
Speaker 1: demarcation where they're just such good football players that I

1708
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:19,880
Speaker 1: think they'd be good on any team. But if you

1709
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:22,880
Speaker 1: had asked me in the nice about Justin Jefferson, right,

1710
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:25,439
Speaker 1: if you if you had asked me, and I think

1711
01:27:25,439 --> 01:27:27,000
Speaker 1: it was he was in the nineteen draft, if I

1712
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:30,519
Speaker 1: remember correctly about DK Metcalf, I would have been worried

1713
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:33,760
Speaker 1: about a guy like DK Metcalf them being able to

1714
01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:35,559
Speaker 1: coach him up and get the most out of him.

1715
01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:38,519
Speaker 1: Now that he's DK Metcalf, I would say, yeah, obviously,

1716
01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:40,639
Speaker 1: if DK Metcalf came here, he'd still be a great

1717
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:43,679
Speaker 1: player because he's he's figured it out in the league. Elsewhere,

1718
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:47,519
Speaker 1: Treylon Burks in Tennessee want nothing to do with that

1719
01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:49,719
Speaker 1: type of player, nothing to do with it. I would

1720
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:53,960
Speaker 1: have taken remember what I liked. I sorry, I'm sorry,

1721
01:27:54,040 --> 01:27:57,280
Speaker 1: I just don't And I think that Treylon Burke's his

1722
01:27:57,479 --> 01:28:01,400
Speaker 1: game at Arkansas in the s CC was better than

1723
01:28:01,479 --> 01:28:03,800
Speaker 1: nikkil Harry's game in the PAC twelve because he was

1724
01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:07,439
Speaker 1: outrunning guys in the SEC and not outrunning guys at

1725
01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:10,040
Speaker 1: in the PAC twelve. So there's a difference there. But

1726
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:14,280
Speaker 1: I just have no confidence whatsoever at the Patriots would

1727
01:28:14,280 --> 01:28:18,599
Speaker 1: take Treylon Burke's refine his skill set to make him

1728
01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:20,320
Speaker 1: a well rounded player so that he could be a

1729
01:28:20,400 --> 01:28:22,720
Speaker 1: thousand yard receiver in their offense. I just don't think

1730
01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:25,479
Speaker 1: they could do it. It's a really good philosophical question

1731
01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:27,600
Speaker 1: because because there's the kind of stuff I like, and

1732
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:30,680
Speaker 1: it's so hard because receivers are so flashy and such,

1733
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:32,400
Speaker 1: and it's like it's so hard to say, look at

1734
01:28:32,439 --> 01:28:35,240
Speaker 1: an NFL receiver and who's awesome and say, but he

1735
01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:37,240
Speaker 1: wouldn't be awesome here, you know, and you know, when

1736
01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:41,000
Speaker 1: not doing we're not saying, well, player X has seventeen

1737
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:43,640
Speaker 1: more receptions than player why so he's the better player. No,

1738
01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:47,840
Speaker 1: there's a lot of like nuance that goes into why

1739
01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:51,200
Speaker 1: certain guys were successful in certain situations. And I think

1740
01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:55,680
Speaker 1: that's right now. My pushback with the Patriots is, you know, like,

1741
01:28:56,120 --> 01:29:00,320
Speaker 1: you know, certain teams have a type. I think that

1742
01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:03,679
Speaker 1: you'd be hard pressed to tell me, like what exactly

1743
01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:07,760
Speaker 1: is the type of Patriot receiver that comes in as

1744
01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:13,920
Speaker 1: a rookie and thrives Jacoby Myers? Okay? And and I'm

1745
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:16,880
Speaker 1: not saying that that's like some great no, no, no,

1746
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:19,200
Speaker 1: I think that that would be an example of a

1747
01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:22,400
Speaker 1: like if Quentin Johnson has a Jacoby Myers season as

1748
01:29:22,439 --> 01:29:25,559
Speaker 1: a rookie, people would say, wow, what a great rookie

1749
01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:29,120
Speaker 1: seventy eight catches, right, what a great rookie season. That's

1750
01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:32,320
Speaker 1: my whole thing is that in the draft, I like,

1751
01:29:32,479 --> 01:29:36,639
Speaker 1: that's a hit. Let's find a more explosive Jacoby Myers

1752
01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:40,960
Speaker 1: because we know that Jacoby Myers his general skill set translate.

1753
01:29:41,120 --> 01:29:44,240
Speaker 1: My my pushback would be they've looked for that a

1754
01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:49,360
Speaker 1: lot who's with Patriots have with whom like Braxton Barrios,

1755
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:53,519
Speaker 1: but Jeremy Eberts. But now we're talking Jeremy Gallen. But

1756
01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:56,240
Speaker 1: now we're talking about late day three guys, like I'm

1757
01:29:56,280 --> 01:30:00,719
Speaker 1: talking about taking the kid Devin Lucien, like Jacoby Monas

1758
01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:02,599
Speaker 1: is a late day three guys, right, But I'm talking

1759
01:30:02,640 --> 01:30:07,000
Speaker 1: about taking like top prospect Jacoby Myers. So as in

1760
01:30:07,160 --> 01:30:10,439
Speaker 1: somebody like Jordan Addison from USC who is a top

1761
01:30:10,520 --> 01:30:14,240
Speaker 1: fifty player, explosive, great route runner, has a lot of

1762
01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:17,800
Speaker 1: the same like nuanced traits that Jacoby has, but he's

1763
01:30:17,800 --> 01:30:20,479
Speaker 1: also going to run a four, three, five, right, So

1764
01:30:20,680 --> 01:30:23,360
Speaker 1: like that that's the guy that I'm looking at in

1765
01:30:23,479 --> 01:30:26,320
Speaker 1: this draft. And why when I made my list today

1766
01:30:26,680 --> 01:30:30,800
Speaker 1: the first three guys were more inside receivers Zay Flowers, right,

1767
01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:35,000
Speaker 1: Jackson Smith and Jig but Jordan Addison, because these guys

1768
01:30:35,120 --> 01:30:38,680
Speaker 1: are Jacoby with gears, right, Like that's the difference. Way

1769
01:30:38,720 --> 01:30:42,559
Speaker 1: we brought the conversation while I was stuffing my fat

1770
01:30:42,640 --> 01:30:47,519
Speaker 1: face during the break was that do you think and

1771
01:30:47,680 --> 01:30:50,800
Speaker 1: Evan clearly doesn't because you just rattled off three really

1772
01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:53,720
Speaker 1: good prospects that would fit that mold to keep it

1773
01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:56,599
Speaker 1: that way. I think it's indicative that the offense needs

1774
01:30:56,600 --> 01:31:01,040
Speaker 1: to change a little bit so that DK Metcalf doesn't

1775
01:31:01,080 --> 01:31:04,800
Speaker 1: get mocked and ridiculed by guys like Mike Lombardi who say,

1776
01:31:05,040 --> 01:31:07,439
Speaker 1: anybody who thinks DK Metcalf is a better player than

1777
01:31:07,560 --> 01:31:11,360
Speaker 1: Kennel Harry and yes, Kenneil was what he said is

1778
01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:14,519
Speaker 1: an idiot. That's a quote from a guy who was

1779
01:31:14,640 --> 01:31:20,000
Speaker 1: in the organization. That's what they think. I think something

1780
01:31:20,120 --> 01:31:23,240
Speaker 1: needs to change so I can take guys like Traylon

1781
01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:26,120
Speaker 1: Burkes and I can say, yeah, I haven't really had

1782
01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:28,120
Speaker 1: a lot of those guys in my offense, but this

1783
01:31:28,240 --> 01:31:30,240
Speaker 1: guy can play. It doesn't have to be that particular guy.

1784
01:31:30,280 --> 01:31:32,840
Speaker 1: I'm talking about a skill set coming out of school.

1785
01:31:33,240 --> 01:31:35,960
Speaker 1: If it's Quinton Johnson, now I don't know if he's

1786
01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:38,679
Speaker 1: that special. I don't, you know, I don't. I don't

1787
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:40,800
Speaker 1: know much more about him than what I watched, you know,

1788
01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:43,200
Speaker 1: down the stretch the Big Twelve Championship and then the

1789
01:31:43,200 --> 01:31:46,120
Speaker 1: College Football playoffs. He is a big player machine. Like

1790
01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:48,919
Speaker 1: what he's good at, he's very very good at average.

1791
01:31:48,920 --> 01:31:50,479
Speaker 1: But so we need to find a way to get

1792
01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:53,599
Speaker 1: an offense that can cater to that skill set well,

1793
01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:57,080
Speaker 1: and not just guys in the slot well, and but

1794
01:31:57,200 --> 01:31:59,360
Speaker 1: just to look through it through the prism of the

1795
01:31:59,400 --> 01:32:01,760
Speaker 1: guys they actually have, Like how much crossover do you

1796
01:32:01,880 --> 01:32:04,880
Speaker 1: see if we had Quentin Johnson, DeVante Parker and take

1797
01:32:04,920 --> 01:32:06,560
Speaker 1: Kwon Thornton And I know, like I'm not trying to

1798
01:32:06,600 --> 01:32:09,479
Speaker 1: say that those guys are great, but where does the crossover?

1799
01:32:09,560 --> 01:32:11,240
Speaker 1: You know? Like, I just think that there's also an

1800
01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:14,559
Speaker 1: element of of of trying to build a versatile attack

1801
01:32:14,640 --> 01:32:16,280
Speaker 1: that can attack all parts of the field, that we

1802
01:32:16,360 --> 01:32:18,720
Speaker 1: have guys that can stretch horizontally, that we have guys

1803
01:32:18,760 --> 01:32:20,400
Speaker 1: that can get deep, you know, Like I mean, I

1804
01:32:20,600 --> 01:32:23,160
Speaker 1: just think of Thornton, like, isn't what Quentin Johnson would

1805
01:32:23,160 --> 01:32:24,519
Speaker 1: come in and do. Isn't that what you kind of

1806
01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:26,479
Speaker 1: hope that Thornton could do? And I'm not I'm not

1807
01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:30,320
Speaker 1: saying I got obviously with Johnson's a more physical specimen,

1808
01:32:30,439 --> 01:32:33,120
Speaker 1: right he's six four two ten, But I think with

1809
01:32:33,280 --> 01:32:35,560
Speaker 1: Johnston and Alex just walked in and I'm going to

1810
01:32:35,640 --> 01:32:39,559
Speaker 1: bring up his his guy, Max Duggan, the quarterback kicking

1811
01:32:40,840 --> 01:32:44,920
Speaker 1: the quarterback at TCU can run around a little bit, right,

1812
01:32:44,960 --> 01:32:48,160
Speaker 1: So a lot of the bombs to Quentin Johnston, were

1813
01:32:48,400 --> 01:32:53,120
Speaker 1: extended or extended plays where Duggan's running around a little bit,

1814
01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:57,120
Speaker 1: throws off platform and hits him down the field. Your

1815
01:32:57,160 --> 01:33:00,519
Speaker 1: guy's not doing that. So if you look at big

1816
01:33:00,560 --> 01:33:03,080
Speaker 1: playing receivers across the league, it doesn't have to just

1817
01:33:03,200 --> 01:33:05,720
Speaker 1: be this example, like just Tyreek Hill, like any of

1818
01:33:05,760 --> 01:33:08,400
Speaker 1: these guys, a lot of their big plays down the field.

1819
01:33:08,520 --> 01:33:12,439
Speaker 1: Come on these broken all the way. Then let's keep

1820
01:33:12,520 --> 01:33:14,760
Speaker 1: taking this. Okay, I love this offseason show. It's just

1821
01:33:14,880 --> 01:33:20,559
Speaker 1: nothing but nonsense. Fine, you know when's Hendon Hooker getting

1822
01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:23,040
Speaker 1: getting drafted? Yeah, gonna have a red shirt year coming

1823
01:33:23,040 --> 01:33:25,760
Speaker 1: off at twenty Yes, and he's already a little bit older,

1824
01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:28,720
Speaker 1: fourth round like probably a third or fourth round guy.

1825
01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:32,000
Speaker 1: Is worth? Is it worth rolling the dice to say

1826
01:33:32,400 --> 01:33:36,280
Speaker 1: in twenty four he could be my quarterback that might

1827
01:33:36,360 --> 01:33:38,519
Speaker 1: be able to make some of these plays. To Jalen Hyatt,

1828
01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:41,719
Speaker 1: who you always say is just wide open fifty yards field,

1829
01:33:41,960 --> 01:33:45,040
Speaker 1: and you're right, I've seen enough Tennessee. I know you're not. Yeah,

1830
01:33:45,200 --> 01:33:48,880
Speaker 1: but that's what he did in college. He has the

1831
01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:51,519
Speaker 1: arm and he had the legs to buy time to

1832
01:33:51,640 --> 01:33:55,960
Speaker 1: get those plays, whereas mac Jones doesn't have either. In

1833
01:33:56,040 --> 01:33:59,439
Speaker 1: my opinion, I've been I've been in on the let's

1834
01:33:59,479 --> 01:34:01,639
Speaker 1: take the two was the quarterback, Like, I don't hate

1835
01:34:01,680 --> 01:34:05,200
Speaker 1: that idea. I think Henn and Hooker, if he if

1836
01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:08,080
Speaker 1: everything clears out medically in the at the combine and

1837
01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:10,920
Speaker 1: pro days and top thirties and all that kind of stuff,

1838
01:34:11,360 --> 01:34:13,080
Speaker 1: might be it. I think he's gonna be a top

1839
01:34:13,120 --> 01:34:14,600
Speaker 1: one hundred guy. And that might be a little bit

1840
01:34:14,680 --> 01:34:18,960
Speaker 1: too early because I think ideally you draft in this

1841
01:34:19,120 --> 01:34:21,600
Speaker 1: top one hundred to help out what you already have

1842
01:34:21,800 --> 01:34:24,000
Speaker 1: and try to build up what you already have. So

1843
01:34:24,200 --> 01:34:26,880
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if that's necessarily the best use of

1844
01:34:26,920 --> 01:34:30,280
Speaker 1: their that asset. But if he slips into the fourth round,

1845
01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:32,400
Speaker 1: and now it's a different conversation. You know, we've talked

1846
01:34:32,439 --> 01:34:35,040
Speaker 1: a little bit about DTR from UCLA, who they coach

1847
01:34:35,120 --> 01:34:38,360
Speaker 1: at the Shrine Bowl. He's a little bit smaller but

1848
01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:41,519
Speaker 1: has that mobility. Is kind of like a hurt type

1849
01:34:41,520 --> 01:34:45,240
Speaker 1: of prospect. I like Hooker better, but that's what I'm

1850
01:34:45,320 --> 01:34:48,680
Speaker 1: Hooker's hookers starting from a higher ceiling. With his passing game,

1851
01:34:48,760 --> 01:34:52,200
Speaker 1: he's he's more advanced than DTR is as a thrower.

1852
01:34:52,840 --> 01:34:54,960
Speaker 1: I don't hate the idea of doing that at all.

1853
01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:57,120
Speaker 1: I think ta Aidan O'Connell in like the fifth round,

1854
01:34:57,400 --> 01:34:59,960
Speaker 1: what about Anthony Richardson in the first Well, I say

1855
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:01,840
Speaker 1: I wouldn't take one. I agree with Evan about you

1856
01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:04,000
Speaker 1: need to find play. Like I'm still not happy they

1857
01:35:04,040 --> 01:35:08,000
Speaker 1: took Garoppolo in the second round in fourteen, and obviously

1858
01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:10,920
Speaker 1: they picked a guy who absolutely had the ability to

1859
01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:13,840
Speaker 1: play in the league. But I think that fourteen team

1860
01:35:13,880 --> 01:35:15,880
Speaker 1: could have used guys that could help them in fifteen.

1861
01:35:16,160 --> 01:35:18,960
Speaker 1: At fourteen fifteen six and now I know it's stupid

1862
01:35:19,040 --> 01:35:22,160
Speaker 1: because the idiot they won the Super Bowl. Doesn't mean

1863
01:35:22,200 --> 01:35:24,320
Speaker 1: that you couldn't have been better, you know, It doesn't

1864
01:35:24,360 --> 01:35:26,439
Speaker 1: mean you couldn't have benefited from another guy. That you

1865
01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:29,040
Speaker 1: didn't really benefit from having Jimmy Garoppolo on your team, right,

1866
01:35:29,960 --> 01:35:33,519
Speaker 1: And that you buy into it pushed breeding, right, Well,

1867
01:35:33,560 --> 01:35:35,559
Speaker 1: I do buy into that, to be honest, Alex, that's

1868
01:35:35,600 --> 01:35:37,599
Speaker 1: a good point. I do buy into that. I think

1869
01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:39,240
Speaker 1: that it did push him a little bit. But you

1870
01:35:39,280 --> 01:35:41,160
Speaker 1: know what my larger point is, and I'm I think

1871
01:35:41,200 --> 01:35:43,759
Speaker 1: I'm with Evan on that. Like I like the idea

1872
01:35:43,840 --> 01:35:46,160
Speaker 1: of a Richardson or a Hooker, but I don't know

1873
01:35:46,280 --> 01:35:47,800
Speaker 1: at what called. I think that that's one of the

1874
01:35:47,880 --> 01:35:49,800
Speaker 1: you know, you start to get mock drafts, and you know,

1875
01:35:50,160 --> 01:35:51,880
Speaker 1: the Philip Perry's of the world, the Evans of the world.

1876
01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:53,679
Speaker 1: People start to turn out this content, and you start

1877
01:35:53,720 --> 01:35:56,160
Speaker 1: to see themes within all these mock drafts. That's another

1878
01:35:56,200 --> 01:35:58,679
Speaker 1: point that Bidard's made, and I agree with the point

1879
01:35:58,760 --> 01:36:04,080
Speaker 1: that a TOOLSI mid round developmental mac Jones insurance he's

1880
01:36:04,120 --> 01:36:05,920
Speaker 1: waiting in the wings if we need him. He has

1881
01:36:06,240 --> 01:36:08,519
Speaker 1: some talent to work with. Like I think everybody's kind

1882
01:36:08,520 --> 01:36:10,240
Speaker 1: of on that page. I just don't think anyone's willing

1883
01:36:10,320 --> 01:36:13,479
Speaker 1: percentage give me a percentage of how many p mac

1884
01:36:13,600 --> 01:36:18,080
Speaker 1: Jones has his fifth year option picked up. So this

1885
01:36:18,240 --> 01:36:20,720
Speaker 1: time next year we're having a show. Yeah, and after

1886
01:36:20,760 --> 01:36:24,200
Speaker 1: we talk about soap with a slot, we're asking is

1887
01:36:24,520 --> 01:36:28,880
Speaker 1: me walking into telephone poles outside? Are we saying? So,

1888
01:36:29,560 --> 01:36:32,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, what, do you think the deadline's coming up?

1889
01:36:32,240 --> 01:36:33,760
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to make a decision. Are they going

1890
01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:35,320
Speaker 1: to pick up his eye? So I think what's really

1891
01:36:35,400 --> 01:36:39,400
Speaker 1: fascinating about this is that I think Bill O'Brien's gonna

1892
01:36:39,400 --> 01:36:42,320
Speaker 1: make him look pretty good to the point where you

1893
01:36:42,439 --> 01:36:45,920
Speaker 1: almost are going to have to ask yourself like, is

1894
01:36:46,000 --> 01:36:49,400
Speaker 1: this like is he just truly a system quarterback? Not

1895
01:36:49,520 --> 01:36:51,600
Speaker 1: like what people say about Brady, but like when the

1896
01:36:51,680 --> 01:36:54,240
Speaker 1: things around him are decent, that he can he can

1897
01:36:54,320 --> 01:36:56,400
Speaker 1: carry you to ten wins because you know he's got

1898
01:36:56,479 --> 01:36:59,120
Speaker 1: everything pointed in the right direction for him. Or is

1899
01:36:59,160 --> 01:37:01,240
Speaker 1: there another level for mac Jones? And I think they're

1900
01:37:01,280 --> 01:37:04,719
Speaker 1: gonna have to almost parse it and take him out

1901
01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:07,800
Speaker 1: of Oh, I have a real offensive coordinator. Now, maybe

1902
01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:09,680
Speaker 1: they upgrade some of the weapons and things like that

1903
01:37:09,800 --> 01:37:14,040
Speaker 1: and decide fully is this actually him or are we

1904
01:37:14,200 --> 01:37:16,200
Speaker 1: just this because we're a well coached team now, Yeah,

1905
01:37:16,280 --> 01:37:22,000
Speaker 1: and they'll they'll have obviously a lot more information on

1906
01:37:22,160 --> 01:37:25,040
Speaker 1: that than we will. But I even think we're not

1907
01:37:25,200 --> 01:37:28,080
Speaker 1: idiots like you could certainly say that you could be

1908
01:37:28,120 --> 01:37:31,519
Speaker 1: an immature baby like some on Twitter Matt Chatham and say,

1909
01:37:31,960 --> 01:37:35,960
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, you know, not impressive. Why are we going

1910
01:37:36,080 --> 01:37:38,760
Speaker 1: gaga over these two throws to wide open receivers that

1911
01:37:38,840 --> 01:37:43,240
Speaker 1: were completely obviously schemed up? Because I have two eyes

1912
01:37:43,280 --> 01:37:45,040
Speaker 1: and I watched the rest of the game, Matt and

1913
01:37:45,120 --> 01:37:47,600
Speaker 1: I and I understood that they got down inside the

1914
01:37:47,680 --> 01:37:50,280
Speaker 1: five yard line on those two drives because not just

1915
01:37:50,560 --> 01:37:53,280
Speaker 1: because of everything else, you know, throughout the game, like

1916
01:37:53,720 --> 01:37:56,920
Speaker 1: they had a punt return and they had a defensive score. Yeah,

1917
01:37:56,960 --> 01:37:59,439
Speaker 1: and they have. They also had seventy five yard drives

1918
01:37:59,600 --> 01:38:02,840
Speaker 1: that were engineered by Patrick Mahone's making plays, not just

1919
01:38:02,960 --> 01:38:05,439
Speaker 1: throwing to schemed up guys. You'll know that, you're like,

1920
01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:07,920
Speaker 1: you don't like how much does Mac Jones do? You'll

1921
01:38:08,160 --> 01:38:10,720
Speaker 1: you'll have an idea, I just of that you don't

1922
01:38:10,720 --> 01:38:13,880
Speaker 1: want to get caught into a situation where you have

1923
01:38:14,240 --> 01:38:18,240
Speaker 1: Derek Carr, Kirk Cousins, Jimmy Garoppolo, and that that's sort

1924
01:38:18,240 --> 01:38:20,640
Speaker 1: of your ceiling at that position. So I would be

1925
01:38:20,720 --> 01:38:24,000
Speaker 1: wary of the future there right now. I would say

1926
01:38:24,080 --> 01:38:26,559
Speaker 1: less than twenty five percent. If you're asking me today,

1927
01:38:26,600 --> 01:38:30,360
Speaker 1: I'd say that's a less than I mean, I agree,

1928
01:38:30,400 --> 01:38:32,360
Speaker 1: And you see those you just named off, those quarterbacks,

1929
01:38:32,439 --> 01:38:35,920
Speaker 1: all those guys have come into like difficult getting them

1930
01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:39,120
Speaker 1: out of their situations. Like they gave them money, but

1931
01:38:39,240 --> 01:38:41,160
Speaker 1: they you know, like you just get kind of stuck

1932
01:38:41,200 --> 01:38:43,920
Speaker 1: in the middle of the reluctant extensions or you're like,

1933
01:38:44,120 --> 01:38:46,320
Speaker 1: I don't have a better option, and it is and

1934
01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:48,600
Speaker 1: that's what I wonder is into Paul's point, are they

1935
01:38:48,640 --> 01:38:50,040
Speaker 1: going to get to the end of four years and say,

1936
01:38:50,160 --> 01:38:52,280
Speaker 1: thank you very much, we can probably get this out

1937
01:38:52,320 --> 01:38:54,280
Speaker 1: of somebody else, you know, if not somebody that they

1938
01:38:54,320 --> 01:38:57,800
Speaker 1: say drafted, is that what the plan is to do it?

1939
01:38:58,439 --> 01:39:00,679
Speaker 1: They didn't up his option. He's now a free agent.

1940
01:39:00,760 --> 01:39:02,880
Speaker 1: What is the increase like in salary for that because

1941
01:39:02,920 --> 01:39:06,400
Speaker 1: he goes from like a rookie to like from likeeen

1942
01:39:06,520 --> 01:39:09,240
Speaker 1: or something. Yeah, I think there's also the argument it

1943
01:39:09,360 --> 01:39:12,240
Speaker 1: just it's not just Josh Allen at this point of

1944
01:39:12,320 --> 01:39:15,080
Speaker 1: the tools the first round quarterbacks that have worked out,

1945
01:39:15,200 --> 01:39:17,880
Speaker 1: like we're on a we're getting pretty deep on the

1946
01:39:17,960 --> 01:39:20,479
Speaker 1: list now of I mean, I think Patrick Mahomes fits

1947
01:39:20,520 --> 01:39:23,880
Speaker 1: that mold where at Texas Tech he was not this good, right,

1948
01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:27,920
Speaker 1: and he also wasn't somebody that was super polished coming

1949
01:39:27,960 --> 01:39:30,040
Speaker 1: into He sat for an entire year because of that,

1950
01:39:30,400 --> 01:39:31,920
Speaker 1: and now he's the best player in the world. So

1951
01:39:32,439 --> 01:39:35,640
Speaker 1: it's Alan, it's Mahomes, it's Herbert Like a lot of

1952
01:39:35,680 --> 01:39:39,240
Speaker 1: these guys are now starting to hit Lamar right, So

1953
01:39:40,040 --> 01:39:43,320
Speaker 1: hurts like it's a new day and age at that position.

1954
01:39:43,360 --> 01:39:45,240
Speaker 1: It's another one that's sort of you know, starting to

1955
01:39:45,320 --> 01:39:48,240
Speaker 1: ruffle my feathers. You know they should use the Philadelphia

1956
01:39:48,320 --> 01:39:52,559
Speaker 1: model perfect. Why didn't I think of that? Get all

1957
01:39:52,600 --> 01:39:54,800
Speaker 1: this talent and and listen, I'm all for it. But

1958
01:39:54,920 --> 01:39:57,280
Speaker 1: like they're like they they did. They weren't sure about

1959
01:39:57,360 --> 01:39:59,200
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts and they got all this talent. Yeah, they

1960
01:39:59,240 --> 01:40:02,599
Speaker 1: absolutely were not sure about Jalen Hurts this time last year.

1961
01:40:03,120 --> 01:40:05,280
Speaker 1: They made that big move to get themselves a top

1962
01:40:05,360 --> 01:40:08,760
Speaker 1: ten potential draft pick because they wanted to have the

1963
01:40:08,840 --> 01:40:11,360
Speaker 1: ability to be back in the quarterback market if they

1964
01:40:11,439 --> 01:40:14,519
Speaker 1: needed to be. They weren't sure on him, But then

1965
01:40:14,600 --> 01:40:17,880
Speaker 1: you watch what he did. Now? Is he that good

1966
01:40:18,000 --> 01:40:20,720
Speaker 1: every year? I don't know. But do you think that

1967
01:40:20,840 --> 01:40:22,599
Speaker 1: Mac Jones will ever every year the way that Joe

1968
01:40:22,680 --> 01:40:26,000
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts just did a top five finishing MVP Super

1969
01:40:26,040 --> 01:40:29,599
Speaker 1: Bowl appearance, right, he was second in the MVP. It's

1970
01:40:29,640 --> 01:40:31,960
Speaker 1: a fair question. I don't know. I don't think he'll

1971
01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:33,439
Speaker 1: ever have a year like that. I don't care what

1972
01:40:33,560 --> 01:40:36,320
Speaker 1: kind of talent is around him. I don't really see it.

1973
01:40:36,360 --> 01:40:37,880
Speaker 1: But I think, you know the point that we've made

1974
01:40:38,000 --> 01:40:40,000
Speaker 1: is that this year it's going to be about, like

1975
01:40:40,120 --> 01:40:43,520
Speaker 1: Evans said, They're gonna put him in position to be successful.

1976
01:40:43,760 --> 01:40:46,200
Speaker 1: The question is how good can he be? And I

1977
01:40:46,320 --> 01:40:48,280
Speaker 1: think for a lot of fans and myself included, it

1978
01:40:48,520 --> 01:40:50,160
Speaker 1: goes back to what I said about Brady. You know,

1979
01:40:50,439 --> 01:40:52,559
Speaker 1: can he get into those situations where it's a back

1980
01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:55,600
Speaker 1: and forth game and he executes a drive? You know,

1981
01:40:55,680 --> 01:40:57,360
Speaker 1: maybe when they've been up against it all game they

1982
01:40:57,439 --> 01:40:59,640
Speaker 1: really haven't been able to consistently move the ball, but

1983
01:40:59,720 --> 01:41:01,439
Speaker 1: one of all on the line, can he you know,

1984
01:41:01,640 --> 01:41:03,760
Speaker 1: pull it out? And I don't know. I just I

1985
01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:06,040
Speaker 1: just hope to your point, Paul, that they do enough

1986
01:41:06,120 --> 01:41:08,400
Speaker 1: this year that we feel like we're getting an accurate

1987
01:41:08,400 --> 01:41:10,040
Speaker 1: assessment with mac Jones. I don't want to go into

1988
01:41:10,120 --> 01:41:12,960
Speaker 1: next year and say, yeah, he was fine, but they

1989
01:41:13,040 --> 01:41:14,960
Speaker 1: really didn't have much around him, and they really need

1990
01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:17,080
Speaker 1: to put somebody with him to really know what you got.

1991
01:41:17,200 --> 01:41:18,280
Speaker 1: Like I just I think you got to know what

1992
01:41:18,320 --> 01:41:19,720
Speaker 1: you got with mac Jones after this year. So I

1993
01:41:19,800 --> 01:41:22,640
Speaker 1: got one more facilitation for you. It might bring it

1994
01:41:22,720 --> 01:41:25,479
Speaker 1: up to my buddy fellow Greenberg over here, right, Okay,

1995
01:41:25,960 --> 01:41:28,000
Speaker 1: I'll throw another bomb into the middle of the table

1996
01:41:28,040 --> 01:41:31,560
Speaker 1: and let you guys give me the percentage percentages that

1997
01:41:32,080 --> 01:41:35,280
Speaker 1: Mac Jones is not the starting quarterback at the end

1998
01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:37,640
Speaker 1: of this year. No, no, no, this year, this year

1999
01:41:37,760 --> 01:41:40,040
Speaker 1: going in that there's a whole offseason that hasn't even

2000
01:41:40,040 --> 01:41:45,760
Speaker 1: started yet, right, I don't totally March fourteen. I mean,

2001
01:41:45,840 --> 01:41:48,000
Speaker 1: it's probably the answer you're looking when I'm I don't

2002
01:41:48,040 --> 01:41:50,000
Speaker 1: tell when I'm watching March Madness and you guys are

2003
01:41:50,040 --> 01:41:53,880
Speaker 1: writing all the updates. When's that, Yeah, mid March fifty.

2004
01:41:53,880 --> 01:41:57,840
Speaker 1: So what do you think there's even a chance. I mean,

2005
01:41:57,920 --> 01:41:59,960
Speaker 1: I guess my question would be to set it up

2006
01:42:00,000 --> 01:42:01,840
Speaker 1: a little bit better, is what's our route into it?

2007
01:42:01,920 --> 01:42:04,320
Speaker 1: Do they go out and acquire, say a Derek Carr

2008
01:42:04,439 --> 01:42:07,120
Speaker 1: or like a veteran quarterback to compete with him, and

2009
01:42:07,200 --> 01:42:09,360
Speaker 1: then he loses. I don't think you're requiring Derek car

2010
01:42:09,439 --> 01:42:12,479
Speaker 1: or Jimmy Garoppolo to compete with him. You're you're acquiring

2011
01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:15,000
Speaker 1: them because you don't think that he's good. Both those

2012
01:42:15,080 --> 01:42:17,640
Speaker 1: guys are the Spider Man name to Mac Jones, like

2013
01:42:17,840 --> 01:42:21,879
Speaker 1: we're staring in the mirror. If Derek Carror, Jimmy Garoppolo,

2014
01:42:22,760 --> 01:42:30,519
Speaker 1: thank you for man splaining that cream, thank you. This

2015
01:42:30,800 --> 01:42:33,599
Speaker 1: is not now. But if he's not the quarterback, who

2016
01:42:33,640 --> 01:42:34,960
Speaker 1: do you think would be I mean, I'm not saying

2017
01:42:35,000 --> 01:42:37,280
Speaker 1: specific guy, but a guy like that, and I would

2018
01:42:37,320 --> 01:42:39,760
Speaker 1: put it at less than ten percent. I would, But

2019
01:42:39,840 --> 01:42:43,320
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm doing the Greenberg thing. I'm facilitating. No

2020
01:42:43,439 --> 01:42:45,360
Speaker 1: I like it, And that's why I brought up the

2021
01:42:45,400 --> 01:42:47,599
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson thing. And I can't like deny that while

2022
01:42:47,640 --> 01:42:49,760
Speaker 1: I'm you know, doing mock drafts and studying stuff, and

2023
01:42:50,120 --> 01:42:53,519
Speaker 1: you know, just comparing this pick fourteenth overall, they were

2024
01:42:53,520 --> 01:42:57,040
Speaker 1: fifteenth overall when they took Mac. There are certainly some questions.

2025
01:42:57,040 --> 01:42:59,000
Speaker 1: I mean, Mac has just seemed at the time like

2026
01:42:59,160 --> 01:43:02,240
Speaker 1: the easy He's not. He's got a very high floor,

2027
01:43:02,720 --> 01:43:04,679
Speaker 1: you know, and it's at what point do you say

2028
01:43:05,240 --> 01:43:07,439
Speaker 1: that's great? But like, if you're going to really take

2029
01:43:07,479 --> 01:43:09,519
Speaker 1: a swing to compete with these teams, you need to

2030
01:43:09,560 --> 01:43:12,759
Speaker 1: take a swing at fifteen fourteen on a guy like Richardson,

2031
01:43:13,200 --> 01:43:15,600
Speaker 1: who at least you can say, has this ceiling that

2032
01:43:15,760 --> 01:43:18,360
Speaker 1: could potentially get you there. I think we're all having

2033
01:43:18,400 --> 01:43:20,600
Speaker 1: the feeling now of ken Mac get us there, and

2034
01:43:20,680 --> 01:43:22,439
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think anybody's ready to pound the

2035
01:43:22,439 --> 01:43:24,200
Speaker 1: table and I don't. I don't know the answer to either,

2036
01:43:24,280 --> 01:43:27,519
Speaker 1: and I know that it probably comes off. I'm completely

2037
01:43:27,560 --> 01:43:30,160
Speaker 1: convinced that he's out, and I'm not. I just I

2038
01:43:30,240 --> 01:43:32,720
Speaker 1: don't know about Mac Jones. I'm probably not as high

2039
01:43:32,760 --> 01:43:35,920
Speaker 1: on Mac Jones as most, but I'm I don't know

2040
01:43:36,040 --> 01:43:39,400
Speaker 1: that for sure. Like there's no denying that he was

2041
01:43:39,439 --> 01:43:42,360
Speaker 1: sabotage last year, Like he was not giving a given

2042
01:43:42,439 --> 01:43:45,360
Speaker 1: a fair shot with the coaching situation that he was standed.

2043
01:43:45,760 --> 01:43:48,880
Speaker 1: That's to me, that's fact. That's not really an opinion.

2044
01:43:48,960 --> 01:43:50,479
Speaker 1: And there's a lot on him this year. I think,

2045
01:43:50,560 --> 01:43:52,320
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just you know, I mean, could go

2046
01:43:52,400 --> 01:43:55,280
Speaker 1: back to his workout videos, like re earning everyone's trust,

2047
01:43:55,479 --> 01:43:57,240
Speaker 1: you know, one of the things like I think, I

2048
01:43:57,800 --> 01:43:59,960
Speaker 1: think it's the videos I could do. I think someone

2049
01:44:00,000 --> 01:44:02,640
Speaker 1: and this is a separate thing that maybe someone like

2050
01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:05,280
Speaker 1: Alex could speak to, like, I don't think you're doing

2051
01:44:05,360 --> 01:44:07,960
Speaker 1: your clients a service by putting crap like that out.

2052
01:44:08,320 --> 01:44:12,559
Speaker 1: I really don't. The only video that I think would

2053
01:44:12,600 --> 01:44:16,040
Speaker 1: be doing him a positive a pro is if that

2054
01:44:16,200 --> 01:44:18,920
Speaker 1: video is with Tom House, if that video is with

2055
01:44:19,040 --> 01:44:22,000
Speaker 1: Tom House or Jordan Palmer, Quincy Avery and one of

2056
01:44:22,040 --> 01:44:25,799
Speaker 1: these quarterback rous and they're working on tapping his mechanics

2057
01:44:25,840 --> 01:44:28,599
Speaker 1: so that his velocity improves. That's I don't care about

2058
01:44:28,680 --> 01:44:31,479
Speaker 1: him being in the gym. I don't care about him.

2059
01:44:31,760 --> 01:44:37,320
Speaker 1: I'm an idiot operate unders work out right, And I'm

2060
01:44:37,320 --> 01:44:41,000
Speaker 1: not saying I'm not saying he's not worth those quarterback

2061
01:44:41,040 --> 01:44:43,080
Speaker 1: coaches by the way. I'm just saying that's who I

2062
01:44:43,200 --> 01:44:46,080
Speaker 1: want him with is I want him with Tom House.

2063
01:44:46,160 --> 01:44:48,320
Speaker 1: I want him with Jordan Palmer, one of those guys

2064
01:44:48,600 --> 01:44:52,600
Speaker 1: to try to get every ounce of velocity that his

2065
01:44:52,800 --> 01:44:56,200
Speaker 1: physical that his body can possibly produce on the throw

2066
01:44:56,600 --> 01:44:59,320
Speaker 1: out of that. And I think you can develop that,

2067
01:44:59,520 --> 01:45:02,400
Speaker 1: like you know, I think Brady Breeze like guys have

2068
01:45:02,640 --> 01:45:06,000
Speaker 1: developed more velocity as their career wears on. But I

2069
01:45:06,400 --> 01:45:09,200
Speaker 1: don't want to come across as thinking that, Matt. You know,

2070
01:45:09,280 --> 01:45:12,479
Speaker 1: I'm pro MAC for the most part. I just think

2071
01:45:12,520 --> 01:45:15,960
Speaker 1: that there's I still think that there's that thing with

2072
01:45:16,120 --> 01:45:20,760
Speaker 1: the Patriots too, where they're gonna want the rookie contracts.

2073
01:45:20,800 --> 01:45:23,240
Speaker 1: Like I don't think paying Derek Carr like thirty five

2074
01:45:23,280 --> 01:45:25,559
Speaker 1: million dollars a year is something that they really interested

2075
01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:30,439
Speaker 1: in doing. But I don't even think that paying Lamar

2076
01:45:30,520 --> 01:45:33,360
Speaker 1: Jackson fifty million years a million dollars a year or

2077
01:45:33,360 --> 01:45:34,840
Speaker 1: something that they want to do. I think they want

2078
01:45:34,840 --> 01:45:38,120
Speaker 1: to do it this way with a cheaper quarterback. And

2079
01:45:38,200 --> 01:45:41,320
Speaker 1: that's why I low. I think, Yeah, bottom line, it

2080
01:45:41,360 --> 01:45:44,000
Speaker 1: comes back to I can have him at four million, right,

2081
01:45:44,040 --> 01:45:45,800
Speaker 1: I could have this guy yet, I mean even if

2082
01:45:45,840 --> 01:45:48,160
Speaker 1: you've got Derek Carr at like twenty five million, right,

2083
01:45:48,280 --> 01:45:51,120
Speaker 1: you know, because he's pretty Yeah, you don't know him anything.

2084
01:45:51,160 --> 01:45:52,680
Speaker 1: Here's a he's a pretty good little email kind of

2085
01:45:52,720 --> 01:45:54,760
Speaker 1: feeding into what we're talking about right now from Mitch

2086
01:45:54,840 --> 01:45:57,679
Speaker 1: from Albany. I want to get your guys in Gal's

2087
01:45:57,720 --> 01:45:59,519
Speaker 1: opinion on something. Who do you think was put in

2088
01:45:59,640 --> 01:46:03,080
Speaker 1: worse scenario? Cam Newton with a whole no off season,

2089
01:46:03,360 --> 01:46:08,080
Speaker 1: no weapons, Demerberg and covid plus all the offensive terms

2090
01:46:08,160 --> 01:46:11,240
Speaker 1: being changed on him. I don't know about that, or

2091
01:46:11,400 --> 01:46:14,599
Speaker 1: Mac with the complete incompetence at the coaching position having

2092
01:46:14,680 --> 01:46:16,760
Speaker 1: little to no help. Second, I think it was very

2093
01:46:16,800 --> 01:46:19,639
Speaker 1: similar those two things, because he's right, like they didn't

2094
01:46:19,680 --> 01:46:22,040
Speaker 1: have a lot of talent, they had no off season

2095
01:46:22,360 --> 01:46:24,920
Speaker 1: and all that. Oh that's true, now they had he

2096
01:46:25,000 --> 01:46:28,760
Speaker 1: had better coaching, But also who, like what does it matter?

2097
01:46:29,160 --> 01:46:31,840
Speaker 1: Like Alreay trying to say that, like we didn't cover

2098
01:46:32,000 --> 01:46:34,559
Speaker 1: Cam Newton, like with the same oh yeah, we killed

2099
01:46:34,600 --> 01:46:37,000
Speaker 1: Cam Newton and would give it optimism that because I

2100
01:46:37,080 --> 01:46:39,160
Speaker 1: think that's the take, right, You're not in my timeline

2101
01:46:39,560 --> 01:46:41,599
Speaker 1: that I assume that's the take. Is that the take

2102
01:46:41,680 --> 01:46:44,040
Speaker 1: is so we killed Cam Newton and everybody gives Mac

2103
01:46:44,080 --> 01:46:46,200
Speaker 1: a pass. And I actually don't think that that's at

2104
01:46:46,280 --> 01:46:49,240
Speaker 1: least I can only speak for myself, but I think

2105
01:46:49,400 --> 01:46:51,680
Speaker 1: a lot of us gave Cam Newton a chance. In

2106
01:46:51,800 --> 01:46:54,040
Speaker 1: the beginning of the year. I think a lot of

2107
01:46:54,120 --> 01:46:55,640
Speaker 1: us gave him a chance. I think a lot of

2108
01:46:55,720 --> 01:47:00,280
Speaker 1: us saw as camp or on what exactly they could

2109
01:47:00,320 --> 01:47:03,040
Speaker 1: maybe do that Week one against Miami when they he

2110
01:47:03,200 --> 01:47:05,479
Speaker 1: ran all over the Dolphins, like that's the only thing

2111
01:47:05,520 --> 01:47:08,000
Speaker 1: he could do, right, was running. Anytime it devolved into

2112
01:47:08,080 --> 01:47:11,400
Speaker 1: passing done. But we, at least I don't think that

2113
01:47:11,520 --> 01:47:13,720
Speaker 1: that's fair to say. I'm not saying everybody. I'm sure

2114
01:47:13,760 --> 01:47:17,519
Speaker 1: there were people on certain radio stations and things like

2115
01:47:17,600 --> 01:47:21,680
Speaker 1: that that we're not giving him a chance. But we

2116
01:47:21,840 --> 01:47:23,839
Speaker 1: just called a spade a spade. Like once he started

2117
01:47:24,080 --> 01:47:26,880
Speaker 1: to get into the year and he was playing every

2118
01:47:26,920 --> 01:47:29,320
Speaker 1: single week and the passing game was what it was

2119
01:47:29,360 --> 01:47:31,800
Speaker 1: with him at quarterback, we were just honest about what

2120
01:47:31,880 --> 01:47:34,280
Speaker 1: we were seeing. It was bad. There's nothing else to say.

2121
01:47:34,520 --> 01:47:36,560
Speaker 1: I was critical of Cam and I'm just critical of

2122
01:47:36,680 --> 01:47:39,280
Speaker 1: Mac like I feel like I treated them both the same. Yeah,

2123
01:47:39,520 --> 01:47:41,720
Speaker 1: I remember with Cam it just felt like it took

2124
01:47:41,760 --> 01:47:43,559
Speaker 1: it took him a while the process, Like right out

2125
01:47:43,600 --> 01:47:45,519
Speaker 1: of the gate. I just felt like he would he

2126
01:47:45,560 --> 01:47:48,160
Speaker 1: would see it too late and try to overcompensate by

2127
01:47:48,200 --> 01:47:50,240
Speaker 1: putting way too much mustard on the ball, you know,

2128
01:47:50,360 --> 01:47:52,760
Speaker 1: And that just seemed to bear itself out. But he

2129
01:47:52,840 --> 01:47:55,920
Speaker 1: could run. He absolutely made plays how and he made

2130
01:47:55,960 --> 01:47:59,320
Speaker 1: plays all year with his legs like he was almost

2131
01:47:59,400 --> 01:48:02,760
Speaker 1: on funny like you only buffalo fumbly. But I mean

2132
01:48:02,920 --> 01:48:05,439
Speaker 1: the only time he ever really got stopped that one

2133
01:48:05,560 --> 01:48:10,800
Speaker 1: Seattle with the game on the line. Yep, no calls here.

2134
01:48:10,960 --> 01:48:13,400
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, Geane from Ottawa way and and she uh.

2135
01:48:13,720 --> 01:48:16,640
Speaker 1: For fifteen years ago, the CFLs Gray Cup went to

2136
01:48:16,760 --> 01:48:20,160
Speaker 1: pay cable and after after having been carried on either

2137
01:48:20,200 --> 01:48:23,080
Speaker 1: of the two national broadcasters, that's when I stopped paying

2138
01:48:23,120 --> 01:48:25,760
Speaker 1: attention to the CFL. So Gene and Canada wah and

2139
01:48:26,040 --> 01:48:27,880
Speaker 1: yah gee. The only thing I'm saying is I'm not

2140
01:48:27,960 --> 01:48:30,519
Speaker 1: talking about pay cable like a lot of people like,

2141
01:48:31,479 --> 01:48:33,000
Speaker 1: you have the option to get cable. A lot of

2142
01:48:33,000 --> 01:48:36,439
Speaker 1: people have cable TV, So it's no longer on ABC,

2143
01:48:36,720 --> 01:48:39,800
Speaker 1: It's now just on ESPN. That's not what we're talking about.

2144
01:48:40,520 --> 01:48:42,360
Speaker 1: I don't care if you have pay cable. I don't

2145
01:48:42,400 --> 01:48:44,600
Speaker 1: care if you have every streaming service there is. I

2146
01:48:44,680 --> 01:48:48,880
Speaker 1: don't care if you have you know, any other direct TV.

2147
01:48:49,040 --> 01:48:51,599
Speaker 1: You can only get this by ordering pay per view

2148
01:48:51,800 --> 01:48:54,760
Speaker 1: for one event for two hundred and fifty dollars. Like

2149
01:48:54,960 --> 01:48:58,680
Speaker 1: that's that's different than the Gray Cup going. It's like

2150
01:48:59,000 --> 01:49:02,760
Speaker 1: to fight. It's like a prize fight, right, yeah, ding

2151
01:49:03,040 --> 01:49:06,240
Speaker 1: ding A little game here from Tyler from Providence, And unfortunately,

2152
01:49:06,240 --> 01:49:07,400
Speaker 1: I don't know how much the rest of us are

2153
01:49:07,439 --> 01:49:10,120
Speaker 1: gonna be able to participate because these are some older

2154
01:49:10,200 --> 01:49:13,559
Speaker 1: players that he is looking to have. Don't hate, what's

2155
01:49:13,600 --> 01:49:16,519
Speaker 1: that ran? Don't hate? He says. I'm thirty years old

2156
01:49:16,560 --> 01:49:20,280
Speaker 1: and since this I became a dedicated football fan. I've

2157
01:49:20,280 --> 01:49:21,920
Speaker 1: been lucky enough to see an arrow with some of

2158
01:49:21,920 --> 01:49:23,800
Speaker 1: the best football players of all time. My youth was

2159
01:49:23,840 --> 01:49:26,920
Speaker 1: Phili with Brady, Adrian Peterson, Calvin Johnson, Grunt, J. J.

2160
01:49:27,040 --> 01:49:29,200
Speaker 1: Watt Reeves, et cetera. I never got to see some

2161
01:49:29,280 --> 01:49:31,640
Speaker 1: of the iconic players from the pre y two K

2162
01:49:31,800 --> 01:49:34,920
Speaker 1: play other than in high right highlight reels. I've included

2163
01:49:34,920 --> 01:49:37,559
Speaker 1: groups of three players that played most mostly before two

2164
01:49:37,600 --> 01:49:39,760
Speaker 1: thousand and was hoping you could rank the players on

2165
01:49:39,880 --> 01:49:42,519
Speaker 1: how dominant they were in the air they played. So

2166
01:49:42,800 --> 01:49:44,280
Speaker 1: this this will be an experiment, Paul, I don't know,

2167
01:49:44,360 --> 01:49:46,880
Speaker 1: this might even go beyond you. Um, he's got a

2168
01:49:46,920 --> 01:49:49,479
Speaker 1: bunch of tiers here, but some interesting players at least

2169
01:49:49,479 --> 01:49:55,200
Speaker 1: to highlight Fran Tarkington, Randall Cunningham, Steve Young, who were

2170
01:49:55,240 --> 01:49:58,439
Speaker 1: the best players out of that just how dominant they were,

2171
01:49:58,720 --> 01:50:00,800
Speaker 1: and ranking those those three, I mean, I can't really

2172
01:50:00,840 --> 01:50:03,360
Speaker 1: speak to fran Tarkington. I thought that fran Tarkin had

2173
01:50:03,400 --> 01:50:06,519
Speaker 1: the best career of those three, But there's nobody more

2174
01:50:06,600 --> 01:50:08,680
Speaker 1: dominant for a short period of time than Randal cutting him,

2175
01:50:08,800 --> 01:50:14,120
Speaker 1: Randam cutting him was awesome. Yeah. Athletes, Steve Young, Lefty Mobile. Yeah.

2176
01:50:15,240 --> 01:50:19,320
Speaker 1: In the Hall of Fame, uh second ones. A group

2177
01:50:19,320 --> 01:50:22,599
Speaker 1: of running backs, Earl Campbell, bo Jackson, Jim Brown who

2178
01:50:22,760 --> 01:50:25,000
Speaker 1: going back? I mean bo Jackson. Bo Jackson's the greatest

2179
01:50:25,040 --> 01:50:30,439
Speaker 1: athlete I've ever seen, unstoppable, giant, Andy's favorite and despite that,

2180
01:50:30,520 --> 01:50:33,599
Speaker 1: I still have to give him his due. U Lyn Swan,

2181
01:50:33,720 --> 01:50:37,120
Speaker 1: Chris Carter, Michael Irvin. Nobody more overrated than Lyn Swan,

2182
01:50:37,320 --> 01:50:39,720
Speaker 1: So not Lyn Swan. Chris Carter would be my choice

2183
01:50:40,160 --> 01:50:43,679
Speaker 1: your Steelers. The Chris Carter one of the few Steelers

2184
01:50:43,720 --> 01:50:47,000
Speaker 1: on that team that probably wasn't on steroids. Michael Irvin

2185
01:50:47,040 --> 01:50:49,720
Speaker 1: showing up to practice after like all night benders. I

2186
01:50:49,760 --> 01:50:51,880
Speaker 1: mean he was. He was a special cat too. Liked

2187
01:50:51,960 --> 01:50:54,920
Speaker 1: him in the Longest Yard though the remake of course,

2188
01:50:55,040 --> 01:50:58,400
Speaker 1: of course, yeah, she wasn't alive in the seventies. Ben Coates,

2189
01:50:58,479 --> 01:51:01,040
Speaker 1: Mike Ditka, Shannon Sharp, I've already talked about. I don't

2190
01:51:01,040 --> 01:51:04,600
Speaker 1: think Dickett belongs in the same categories. It's hard to

2191
01:51:04,720 --> 01:51:08,760
Speaker 1: compare guys from those grossly different eras. But Ben Coates was,

2192
01:51:09,960 --> 01:51:12,840
Speaker 1: you know, the much better. You know how people say

2193
01:51:12,960 --> 01:51:16,400
Speaker 1: Gronk is better than Kelsey. Ben Coates was better than

2194
01:51:16,960 --> 01:51:19,519
Speaker 1: Shannon Sharp for that reason. Shannon Sharp was a better

2195
01:51:19,600 --> 01:51:22,439
Speaker 1: receiver an athlete, but he didn't do the things that

2196
01:51:22,880 --> 01:51:26,320
Speaker 1: be Coach did. Yeah, Kelsey's a tool bad I'm just

2197
01:51:26,360 --> 01:51:28,000
Speaker 1: talking about as a player, though. Do they see this

2198
01:51:28,360 --> 01:51:31,519
Speaker 1: stuff from him at the parade? I did. Nobody thought

2199
01:51:31,560 --> 01:51:34,719
Speaker 1: the Chiefs were going to make the players like Rodney

2200
01:51:34,760 --> 01:51:37,320
Speaker 1: Harrison William to Guinness Dust. I feel like it was worse.

2201
01:51:37,640 --> 01:51:39,840
Speaker 1: I just saw the ownership group, who I don't have

2202
01:51:39,880 --> 01:51:41,719
Speaker 1: any left, but one of them dressed up like Krouella

2203
01:51:41,760 --> 01:51:43,519
Speaker 1: de Ville. Like, I'm like, really, like, do you have

2204
01:51:43,640 --> 01:51:46,160
Speaker 1: to dress the part of just like an evil rich villain?

2205
01:51:46,280 --> 01:51:50,280
Speaker 1: Like I've never ever met anybody who despises the team

2206
01:51:50,320 --> 01:51:55,040
Speaker 1: because of their ownership groups. Whenever I see Gracie Hunt

2207
01:51:55,080 --> 01:51:58,080
Speaker 1: on Instagram, Like, all right, just like everything's been hinted,

2208
01:51:58,160 --> 01:51:59,800
Speaker 1: I would have to know who Gracie Hunt is to

2209
01:51:59,880 --> 01:52:02,439
Speaker 1: know where she's a daughter. I'm mentioned beautiful and I'm

2210
01:52:02,439 --> 01:52:05,360
Speaker 1: gonna own the team someday. Suck it. Yeah, all right,

2211
01:52:05,439 --> 01:52:08,080
Speaker 1: let's do one more. Reggie White, Jack young Blood and

2212
01:52:08,320 --> 01:52:12,240
Speaker 1: Richard Dent White. I mean he was a hump move

2213
01:52:12,320 --> 01:52:14,920
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, right, I Mean, that's tough memories for

2214
01:52:15,000 --> 01:52:17,320
Speaker 1: that one. We're winding it down here, Ryan in New York.

2215
01:52:17,400 --> 01:52:19,200
Speaker 1: Let's let's get one last call in here. Hey, Ryan,

2216
01:52:19,240 --> 01:52:23,000
Speaker 1: what's going on? Hey? I just wanted your guys opinion.

2217
01:52:23,160 --> 01:52:28,040
Speaker 1: After years of relatively consistent special teams, this most recent

2218
01:52:28,120 --> 01:52:31,120
Speaker 1: year was kind of abysmal. In some aspects. I wanted

2219
01:52:31,160 --> 01:52:32,960
Speaker 1: you guys' take on do you think it's worth it

2220
01:52:33,160 --> 01:52:36,599
Speaker 1: to use a seven on that punter out of Wingate

2221
01:52:36,760 --> 01:52:39,240
Speaker 1: or maybe even the kicker out of Michigan, or if

2222
01:52:39,680 --> 01:52:43,080
Speaker 1: you think we have problems more at the coaching level. Yeah,

2223
01:52:43,160 --> 01:52:46,080
Speaker 1: thanks Ryan. Uh. I mean, I don't even know if

2224
01:52:46,080 --> 01:52:47,800
Speaker 1: the I mean, I certainly the punter was a problem

2225
01:52:47,920 --> 01:52:50,519
Speaker 1: last year with Jake Bailey getting hurt and having issues,

2226
01:52:51,120 --> 01:52:53,160
Speaker 1: But I mean I see it as a bigger, a

2227
01:52:53,280 --> 01:52:55,200
Speaker 1: bigger thing, right, Like I mean, I think it's more

2228
01:52:55,200 --> 01:52:57,439
Speaker 1: about like tackling guys. It's not so much like special

2229
01:52:57,479 --> 01:52:59,879
Speaker 1: teams or a problem. I don't you got a good returner.

2230
01:53:00,000 --> 01:53:01,320
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the returning is pretty good. I

2231
01:53:01,360 --> 01:53:03,560
Speaker 1: don't care about I don't know about Nick Folk what

2232
01:53:03,680 --> 01:53:06,000
Speaker 1: he's got left. But I think they've got to figure

2233
01:53:06,040 --> 01:53:07,799
Speaker 1: out Jake Bailey. You just gave him a new contract.

2234
01:53:07,840 --> 01:53:10,520
Speaker 1: He didn't you know, he ended the year injured and suspended.

2235
01:53:10,920 --> 01:53:12,680
Speaker 1: Can they mend that fence? Can he get back to

2236
01:53:12,760 --> 01:53:14,320
Speaker 1: the level of play that that he's used to be

2237
01:53:14,520 --> 01:53:16,640
Speaker 1: very hurt, very very hurt. Um. But I mean I

2238
01:53:16,720 --> 01:53:19,000
Speaker 1: could see both those positions. But I mean, again, I

2239
01:53:19,040 --> 01:53:20,680
Speaker 1: think a little bit the pause point. I mean, you

2240
01:53:20,800 --> 01:53:22,280
Speaker 1: lost you know, you got rid of a lot of

2241
01:53:22,320 --> 01:53:24,479
Speaker 1: these veterans special teamers last year. You got rid of

2242
01:53:24,560 --> 01:53:27,240
Speaker 1: Brandon King, you got you know, Cody Davis went down,

2243
01:53:27,320 --> 01:53:29,479
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you've got you know, new guys,

2244
01:53:29,560 --> 01:53:32,400
Speaker 1: new undrafted rookie. So you know, my question is is

2245
01:53:32,640 --> 01:53:34,800
Speaker 1: you know the guys like DeMarcus Mitchell who played a

2246
01:53:34,840 --> 01:53:36,560
Speaker 1: bunch like you know, next year, is he able to

2247
01:53:37,240 --> 01:53:41,000
Speaker 1: Those guys were great all right, school Schooler and Mitchell

2248
01:53:41,400 --> 01:53:43,200
Speaker 1: Cooler was good, but the teams were and the year

2249
01:53:43,240 --> 01:53:45,479
Speaker 1: before when all those veterans were there, they sucked on

2250
01:53:45,600 --> 01:53:49,360
Speaker 1: special teams too. Like they have eleven draft picks. So

2251
01:53:49,720 --> 01:53:51,680
Speaker 1: I'm not going to sit here and kill him, you know,

2252
01:53:51,800 --> 01:53:53,479
Speaker 1: on that Saturday or the day three of the draft

2253
01:53:53,560 --> 01:53:55,800
Speaker 1: when they draft a kicker or punter, I'm not going

2254
01:53:55,840 --> 01:53:57,680
Speaker 1: to kill him for it. I'd rather not. I think

2255
01:53:57,720 --> 01:53:59,600
Speaker 1: you can get players with draft picks, and you can

2256
01:53:59,680 --> 01:54:04,680
Speaker 1: sign kickers as as undrafted free agents. But did they

2257
01:54:04,720 --> 01:54:07,719
Speaker 1: need a punter? Yeah, like that's an issue. They're gonna

2258
01:54:07,760 --> 01:54:10,000
Speaker 1: need a kicker at some point. They got's thirty eight.

2259
01:54:10,200 --> 01:54:12,439
Speaker 1: He's not gonna kick forever and they took Warwash in

2260
01:54:12,479 --> 01:54:14,800
Speaker 1: the fifth right, Yeah, so the fifth round is usually

2261
01:54:14,840 --> 01:54:17,599
Speaker 1: their sweet spot. They don't currently have a fifth round pick,

2262
01:54:17,640 --> 01:54:20,439
Speaker 1: but they have four six and three fours, so there's

2263
01:54:20,439 --> 01:54:24,280
Speaker 1: like ways to fill the put a gun right inside

2264
01:54:24,400 --> 01:54:28,400
Speaker 1: my mouth and just let fly around four sixth round picks.

2265
01:54:28,439 --> 01:54:31,400
Speaker 1: We're gonna be sitting here. I'm knowing that has to

2266
01:54:31,439 --> 01:54:34,400
Speaker 1: do the deep dive on their life after. But you

2267
01:54:34,600 --> 01:54:39,040
Speaker 1: like that if the four six rounders, there's like three sentences.

2268
01:54:39,160 --> 01:54:43,360
Speaker 1: If they take the punter from Oklahoma, then just watch

2269
01:54:43,400 --> 01:54:46,200
Speaker 1: out for that one. Oh well, we have some off

2270
01:54:46,240 --> 01:54:50,880
Speaker 1: the field issues. Yeah, oh is he's can't be as

2271
01:54:50,920 --> 01:54:52,640
Speaker 1: bad as the kicker they took in the fifth round.

2272
01:54:53,880 --> 01:54:56,240
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to cover up tattoos. Again, it depends

2273
01:54:56,280 --> 01:55:00,120
Speaker 1: on what like on where like you fall in the

2274
01:55:00,160 --> 01:55:02,800
Speaker 1: political spectrum, I suppose, but oh I don't made If

2275
01:55:02,840 --> 01:55:04,880
Speaker 1: he's a mega guy, that's one thing. But but like

2276
01:55:05,000 --> 01:55:11,000
Speaker 1: worldwasser of much worse than politics, right, yeah, And I'm

2277
01:55:11,040 --> 01:55:12,960
Speaker 1: not telling you that that's what I never spoke to.

2278
01:55:14,000 --> 01:55:15,240
Speaker 1: I know we got to talk to him, but he

2279
01:55:15,360 --> 01:55:18,480
Speaker 1: had that tattoo that everybody said that that was not

2280
01:55:18,680 --> 01:55:23,760
Speaker 1: like you know political. Yeah, Jake Moody, the kicker from

2281
01:55:23,800 --> 01:55:26,200
Speaker 1: Michigan that we were talking about earlier. He's gonna go

2282
01:55:26,280 --> 01:55:30,080
Speaker 1: earlier than the seventh round. Like he's he's flirting with

2283
01:55:30,160 --> 01:55:32,560
Speaker 1: the fourth right, like he's gonna be like one of

2284
01:55:32,600 --> 01:55:34,600
Speaker 1: those big Day three guys for his kicker off the

2285
01:55:34,640 --> 01:55:37,960
Speaker 1: board type player. Here's here's my my feeling in a nutshell. Okay,

2286
01:55:38,000 --> 01:55:40,240
Speaker 1: so you took Stephen Gastowski in the fourth round, right,

2287
01:55:41,480 --> 01:55:45,520
Speaker 1: tremendous career. How different was he than Nick Folk who

2288
01:55:45,600 --> 01:55:49,080
Speaker 1: you signed off the scrap heap in terms of longevity?

2289
01:55:49,160 --> 01:55:51,080
Speaker 1: Is different? No, no, no, I'm just but you can

2290
01:55:51,120 --> 01:55:53,680
Speaker 1: get a guy and he can work out, and if

2291
01:55:53,720 --> 01:55:55,120
Speaker 1: he doesn't work out, you get rid of him and

2292
01:55:55,160 --> 01:55:58,520
Speaker 1: get another guy. Like the differences between the kickers are

2293
01:55:58,640 --> 01:56:01,800
Speaker 1: so small. Unless you Justin Tucker, Unless you have Justin Tucker,

2294
01:56:01,960 --> 01:56:03,400
Speaker 1: he's the one. But I don't know that I'm going

2295
01:56:03,440 --> 01:56:05,600
Speaker 1: to get Justin Tucker until I get him, I don't know,

2296
01:56:05,920 --> 01:56:08,040
Speaker 1: Like I don't know this Moody guys. I'm not saying

2297
01:56:08,080 --> 01:56:12,160
Speaker 1: he's Justin Tucker, but he's got a huge leg. Like

2298
01:56:12,280 --> 01:56:15,600
Speaker 1: this is somebody that could realistically in a game maybe

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Speaker 1: make a sixty yard field goal and so that you know, builds.

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Speaker 1: If I have that, that's a tremendous advantage. I'm not

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Speaker 1: diminishing that. I just feel like, especially with how many

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Speaker 1: field goals they get, know those guys that are in

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Speaker 1: the league, and this is why they tell you, like

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Speaker 1: in fantasy all the time, don't don't stress it over

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Speaker 1: your kicker, like they're all the same. Yeah, I just

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Speaker 1: wonder how they're going to manage folk. And that's you know,

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Speaker 1: a situation like that, where do you want to be

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Speaker 1: kind of left holding the bag if the wheel falls

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Speaker 1: off of the wheel falls off the bus with him

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Speaker 1: next training camp and you're like, he get back and

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Speaker 1: he's like he can't, he can't do it anymore. We

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Speaker 1: got it that, you know. That's why I wouldn't. I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to sit here and kick and scream if

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Speaker 1: they take a kicker. That's why he's thirty eight. It's

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Speaker 1: something I know. It's crazy that we because they haven't

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Speaker 1: really done this very well at other positions. But it's

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Speaker 1: the year too early, you know, it said right to

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Speaker 1: think about it. Maybe they get out in front of that.

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Speaker 1: The punters. I think there's a couple of punters in

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Speaker 1: the draft. The two guys that were at the Senior

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Speaker 1: bowler decent. We watched Michael Turk at the guy that

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Speaker 1: I said had some some off field things. We watched

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Speaker 1: him at the shrine Bulk So yes, uncle uncle, his nephew. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that would be an interesting story. He's uh, he's really good. Uh,

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Speaker 1: he's got an absolute boomer of a leg. But I

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Speaker 1: just for me, punters are the ones that I definitely

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Speaker 1: think you can sign as ud face like, I think

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Speaker 1: those guys are a diamond dozen kickers. I think you guys,

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Speaker 1: the best kicker is probably gonna get drafted. It right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I agree with that. Yes, I am curious that what

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Speaker 1: happens with Bailey and you know, it's it's just such

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Speaker 1: a weird situation. The guy we had as a kicker

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Speaker 1: last year, Visayan No no, no, oh yeah kin so

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Speaker 1: he's he got signed by Dallas, but but he was

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Speaker 1: in training camp last I was trying to think of

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Speaker 1: the guy they had in camp. Just get a guy

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Speaker 1: like that to compete with Folk. Get a guy Jake Moody,

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Speaker 1: Just get a guy all right kind of leg. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna wrap it up. I'm gonna do Fred's style. Wrap

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Speaker 1: it up two minutes early here, so Evan and like

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Speaker 1: Daniel Coulson, Evan and Bath can get on here, so

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Speaker 1: make sure you stay tuned. We got catched on too,

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Speaker 1: coming up next. If you're on video, stay on video.

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Speaker 1: They will Evan and Alex will be there. They will

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Speaker 1: ready more kicker talk, more kicker talk, lots of draft.

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Speaker 1: Make sure get your Quentin Johnson thoughts in. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: Alex will have some some strong opinions about him as well. Otherwise,

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Speaker 1: probably back next week's Don't worry, I'll be out of

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Speaker 1: the host chair and otherwise we'll see you next Tuesday.

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