1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio News. 2 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 2: Good morning. 3 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 3: I'm John Tucker and I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 3: stories we're following today. 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 2: And Karen, let's start with the latest on the war 6 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 2: in Ukraine. President Vladimir Zelenski says he plans to meet 7 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 2: with President Trump in the coming days, signaling optimism about 8 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 2: reaching a peace deal to in Rush's almost four year war. 9 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 2: This is a post on x Zelensky writing quote A 10 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 2: lot could be decided before the new year. The Key 11 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,919 Speaker 2: Post reported earlier that Zelenski is expected to travel to Florida, 12 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 2: where President Trump is spending the Christmas break, as soon 13 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 2: as Sunday. Keev and Washington are seeking to align on 14 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 2: a twenty point piece plan to present a Russian President 15 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 2: Vladimir Putin, including the provision of strong security guarantees modeled 16 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 2: on NATO's Article five in a global post war development 17 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 2: program for Ukraine. 18 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 3: Well, let's stay with geopolitics here, John, The US launched 19 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 3: a military strike in Nigeria against Islamic state targets in 20 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 3: a security and intelligence collaboration with the African Nations government, 21 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 3: which has been struggling to contain increasing levels of terrorist 22 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 3: attacks in parts of the country. President Trump said he 23 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 3: directed American forces to carry out a powerful and deadly 24 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 3: strike against ISIS. Nigeria's Foreign Affairs ministry confirmed the precision 25 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 3: hits on terrorist targets and said it remains engaged with 26 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 3: international partners, including the US, to address the quote persistent 27 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 3: threat of terrorism and violent extremism. 28 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 2: And sanctioned to oil tanker pursued by US forces turned 29 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 2: away from Venezuela and retreated out into the Atlantic as 30 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 2: the Trump administration continues a blockade, pilot pressure and Crocus 31 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,639 Speaker 2: sources are telling Bloomberg the Coastguard encountered the ship Bella 32 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 2: I amid bad weather near Barbados on Sunday and then 33 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 2: instructed the tanker to move to calmer waters for safe boarding. 34 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 2: The ship said sailed toward the Atlantic Ocean on tanker 35 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 2: was not hauling oil at the time it turned away 36 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 2: from Venezuela. 37 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 3: Well on that news here. John Oil is headed for 38 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 3: the biggest weekly gain since late October. A global benchmark 39 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 3: Brent trading above sixty two dollars a barrel, more than 40 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 3: three percent higher this week. West Texas Intermediate is fifty 41 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 3: eight dollars forty nine cents a barrel, and with. 42 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 2: Thos escalating geopolitical tensions, Karen gold and silver jumped to 43 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 2: all time highs. Platinum also hit a record spot goal, 44 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: rose as much as one point two percent to peak 45 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 2: above four thousand, five hundred and thirty dollars an ounce 46 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 2: a spot. Silver advanced for a fifth straight session, climbing 47 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 2: as much as four point six percent to cross seventy 48 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 2: five dollars an ounce for the first time. The white 49 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 2: metal's recent advance has been buoyed by speculative inflows and 50 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 2: lingering supply dislocations across major trading hubs, following in historic 51 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 2: short squeeze in October and the Bloomberg Dollars Spot Index. 52 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 2: This's a key gauge of the US currency strength that 53 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 2: was down eight tenths of a percent for the week, 54 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: its biggest drop since June. 55 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 3: Meanwhile, John China criticized the US for what has said 56 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 3: was trying to herd Beijing's ties with India, calling its 57 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 3: approach quote irresponsible. Foreign Ministry spokesman Lynn Jane said a 58 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 3: recent report by the Pentagon distorarts China's defense policy shows 59 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 3: discord between China and other countries and aims to find 60 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 3: a pretext for the US to perpetuate its own military imagine. 61 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 3: Lynn made the remarks when asked about the report which 62 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 3: said China may use an easing of tensions with India 63 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 3: to block improved ties between Washington and New Delhi and 64 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 3: meanwhile caring. 65 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 2: Japan's industry ministry is sent to nearly quadruple its budgeted 66 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 2: support for cutting edge semiconductors and artificial intelligence development to 67 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 2: about seven point nine billion dollars. This is for the 68 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 2: fiscal year that starts in April. Overall, the Ministry of Economy, Trade, 69 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 2: and Industry's budget rose by about fifty percent from the 70 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 2: previous year, and this is all largely due to the 71 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 2: jump in CHIPS and AI spending. The jump in chips 72 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 2: and AI spending comes at a time when Japan is 73 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 2: trying to strengthen its capacities in frontier technology as the 74 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 2: US and China race ahead. As the world's two largest 75 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 2: economies continued or remain on tense terms despite a lull 76 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 2: in the trade war, Japan is also trying to secure 77 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 2: better supply chain access for key technologies well. 78 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 3: John US immigration and customs enforcements summoned Afghans residing in 79 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 3: the US to present their documents during the holiday season, 80 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 3: marking the latest effort by the Trump administration to crackdown 81 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 3: on migrants from the Asian nation. Sources tell Bloomberg that 82 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 3: ICE is seeking appointments for a scheduled report check in, 83 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 3: with one requesting such a meeting on Christmas Day and 84 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 3: another asking for one on New Year's Day. The Immigration 85 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 3: agency has arrested migrants who appear at its offices in 86 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 3: response to such formal requests, including those attending interviews for 87 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 3: their green cards. 88 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 2: And Turning to the markets, stocks extended the year in 89 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 2: rally in thin trading, was driven by optimism over economic 90 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 2: growth and expectations were improved corporate earnings. Robert Teeter, the 91 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 2: chief investment strategist as silver Cross Asset Management, is looking 92 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 2: ahead to twenty twenty six. 93 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 4: So one of the themes that we've seen has been 94 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 4: that companies have been very slow to hire. You've had 95 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 4: a relatively soft labor market. That's not great from a 96 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,119 Speaker 4: consumer standpoint, but so far it seems to be pretty 97 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 4: great from an earning standpoint, and that is a sign 98 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 4: that some of these AI benefits are coming into play. 99 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 4: You're hearing more and more CEOs talking about keeping headcoump 100 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 4: flat while revenues are rising, and so that's good for 101 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 4: the earnings picture. Again, not so great for the consumer picture, 102 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 4: although payrolls are still expanding, albeit slowly, and wages are 103 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 4: still expanding also albeit slowly, so we're not in a 104 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 4: spot where we're fearful of a recession. 105 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 2: That's Robert Teeter, the chief investment strategist at Silvercrest Asset Management. Overseas, 106 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 2: the MSCI All Country World Index that edge to hire 107 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 2: an Asian trading set for a seventh day of gains, 108 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 2: with the regional gauge climbing two tenths of a percent. Australia, 109 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 2: Hong Kong, and several other regional markets for Maine chef 110 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 2: for the holidays. At Bloomberg's index of the dollar held 111 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 2: near the lowest since October. 112 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 3: Let's go to company news here. John and Vidia agreed 113 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 3: to see a licensing deal with artificial intelligence startup Grock, 114 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 3: furthering its investments and companies connected to the AI boom 115 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 3: and getting the right to add a new type of 116 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 3: technology to its products. The world's largest publicly traded company 117 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 3: is paid for the right to use Rock's technology and 118 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 3: will integrate its chip design into future products. Some of 119 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 3: the startups executives are leaving to join in Vidia to 120 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 3: help with that effort, the company said, and Grock will 121 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 3: continue as an independent company with a new chief executive. 122 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 2: And Karen Goldman Sachs is warning clients about an outside 123 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 2: law firm data breach. Let's get more on this story 124 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 2: this morning from Bloomberg's Erica Herskowitz. 125 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 5: The banking giant says the data of some investors may 126 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 5: have been exposed in a breach at one of the 127 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 5: bank's law firms. Goldman was informed of the cybersecurity incident 128 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 5: by Freed Frank Harris Schreiver and Jacobsen, which serves as 129 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 5: outside council to many of its alternative funds. The law 130 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 5: firm says its network is now secure, the vulnerability has 131 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 5: been corrected, and any exposed data is unlikely to be 132 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 5: used improperly. Goldman says its own systems were not impacted 133 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 5: by the breach. Erka Herskowitz Bloomberg Radio. 134 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 3: Erica Thank You. Hundreds of flights have been canceled at 135 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 3: New York's major airports as a winter storm descends on 136 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 3: the city and neighboring regions. At least four hundred international 137 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 3: and domestic flights have been canceled and many delayed, according 138 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 3: to flight Aware, an airline tracking service. New York's LaGuardia 139 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 3: and John F. Kennedy airports, as well as nearby Newark, 140 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 3: were among the hardest hit, and we give more details 141 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 3: with Bloomberg meteorologist Craig Allen. 142 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 6: It looks like the heaviest snowfall is going to come 143 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 6: on down through central New York State, cut across Interstate 144 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 6: I eighty one and across eighty seven, come down to 145 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 6: about I eighty, which runs through the northeast section of 146 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 6: Pennsylvania and northern New Jersey and over towards New York City. 147 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 6: Even New Jersey right along the coast and portions of 148 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 6: Long Island could wind up with more than half a 149 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 6: foot of snow. 150 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 3: And Bloomberg meteorologist Craig Allen says heavy snow is expected 151 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 3: to start falling in New York City and across Long 152 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 3: Island this afternoon right through tomorrow. 153 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 7: Time. 154 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 3: Now for look at some of the other stories making 155 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 3: news in New York and around the world, and for 156 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 3: that we're joined by Bloomberg's Michael Barr Michael. 157 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 8: Good morning, Good morning Karen. In southern California, another powerful 158 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 8: storm system could cause more flooding and mud slides. Officials 159 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 8: issued evacuation mornings in mountain towns. The region experience one 160 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 8: of the wettest Christmases in years, increasing the risk of 161 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 8: debris flows in areas scorched by wildfires. In January, Governor 162 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 8: Gavenusom has declared a state of emergency in six counties. 163 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 8: Firefighters in Ventura County had to lift someone out of 164 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 8: the water from the bridge over the Ventura River. Captain 165 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 8: Anthony McHale is with the Ventura County Fire Department. We'll 166 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 8: do what's called a flying Stokes operation. Lifted the victim 167 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 8: up off the river bottom and onto the roadway. 168 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 2: It was a very successful operation and fortunately was a 169 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 2: good outcome. 170 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 8: He's uninjured. Heavy rain and gusty winds were blamed for 171 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 8: at least two deaths on Christmas Eve, including a Sacramento 172 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 8: Sheriff's deputy who died in what appeared to be a 173 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 8: weather related crash. There's more fallout from pgn's city wide 174 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 8: holiday outages. San Francisco Mayor Daniel luriy is calling on 175 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 8: the utility to lower its rates. 176 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 4: We need more from PGNE. We need to make sure 177 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:35,719 Speaker 4: that there are no future blackouts. 178 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 2: We need to know that their infrastructure is sound. 179 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 8: Mayor Luriy says many residents lost food and freezers when 180 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 8: the power went out. The one time girlfriend of Jeffrey Epstein, 181 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 8: Gallainne Maxwell, is back in the spotlight with a public 182 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 8: release of investigative records that led to her twenty twenty 183 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 8: one sex trafficking conviction. Among items unsealed are the grand 184 00:09:56,440 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 8: jury transcripts of testimony that led to her indictment. Two 185 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 8: weeks ago, she asked a federal judge to free her 186 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 8: from prison, claiming she was unjustly convicted. The public release 187 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 8: of investigative materials brings fresh light to the evidence against you. 188 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 8: Pope Leo gave his first Christmas Day message. 189 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 7: Merry Christmas with the peace of Christ, run in your hearts, 190 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 7: sending your families. 191 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:25,839 Speaker 8: The Paul Birds the faithful to shed indifferences toward those 192 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 8: who are suffering. In New York City. Timothy Cardinal Dolan, 193 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 8: who is retiring, presided over his last Christmas service after 194 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 8: sixteen years of service to the largest Catholic guardsdiasis in America. 195 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 8: Global news twenty four hours a day and whenever you 196 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 8: want it with Bloomberg News. Now. I'm Michael Barr, and 197 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 8: this is Bloomberg Karen. 198 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 3: All right, Michael Barr, thank you. Time now for a 199 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 3: Bloomberg sports update. Here's Dan Schwartzman. 200 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 9: Three NFL games on the Christmas schedules. The lines were 201 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 9: officially eliminated from plaif contention belong to the Vikings twenty 202 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 9: three to ten. Broncos stained contention when the AFC West, 203 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 9: with a twenty to thirteen win O of the Chiefs 204 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 9: Aboys knock off the Commanders thirty to twenty three. NBA 205 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,199 Speaker 9: with five marquee matchups on Christmas, the Thunder loss their 206 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 9: fifth game of the season, falling to this Person one 207 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 9: seventeen to one oh two. Nick's a come back win 208 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 9: over the Cavs one twenty six to one twenty four. 209 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 9: The Rockets dominate the Lakers one seventeen to ninety six. 210 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 9: Warriors knockoff the Mavericks one twenty six to one sixteen, 211 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 9: while the Nuggets get a monster triple double from Nikola 212 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 9: Jokich fifty six points, sixteen rebounds, and fifteen assists in 213 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 9: a one forty two to one thirty eight overtime Winnow 214 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 9: the Timberwolves. That's your Bloomberg Sports update. 215 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 3: Stay with us. More from Bloomberg day Break coming up 216 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 3: after this. 217 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: Coast to coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide on Sirius XM, 218 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 219 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business app. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 220 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's now fine fourteen of well spread. Good morning. 221 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 2: I'm John Tucker. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. Just to recap 222 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 2: our top story Ukenian. Ukrainian President Voladimir Zelenski says he 223 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 2: plans to meet with President Donald Trump in quote the 224 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 2: coming days. Let's go into more depth on this story 225 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 2: this morning. We're joined by Bloomberg's Roz Krasny Ross. Thanks 226 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 2: for being with us this morning. Does this signal any 227 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 2: significant degree of optimism into ending the war? 228 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 10: Well, it's always hard to tell as we approach the 229 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 10: four year mark of this Russian Ukraine war, but it 230 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 10: does seem like there's some new urgency on the part 231 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 10: of Zelensky and certainly on the part of the US 232 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 10: negotiators to get something done. Zelensky talked today about potential 233 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 10: for big movement before the new year, So that is 234 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 10: certainly a little bit optimistic looking. And the word that 235 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 10: we're getting from our sources in Ukraine from other people 236 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 10: is that Zelensky could meet with Trump as soon as Sunday. 237 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 10: So we know that Donald Trump certainly likes to make 238 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 10: announcements around signature Day, so something before the end of 239 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 10: the year would certainly be a possibility. But the big 240 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 10: X factor in this, of course, is what will Russia 241 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 10: to how will they respond if at all? 242 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 2: Well, Zelenski met with Steve Whitkoff and Jared Kushner I 243 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 2: think was what it was yesterday, Christmas Day. What came 244 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 2: out of that with the two US envoys. 245 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 10: Yeah, so he spoke with Witkoff and Kushna for almost 246 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 10: an hour. He said, everybody's well, he's in Kiev, but 247 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 10: the whole US negotiating team is down in Florida. They 248 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,359 Speaker 10: spoke for an hour and he came out just sounding optimistic. 249 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 10: I don't think we have any specific details on that, 250 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 10: but all the US and Ukrainian negotiators are kind of 251 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 10: coalescing around what's been described as a twenty point plan 252 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 10: that includes post war security guarantees for Ukraine. An economic 253 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 10: redevelopment plan, even how the big Ukrainian nuclear power plant 254 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:03,079 Speaker 10: may be run after hostilities end. So there's certainly a 255 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 10: lot to talk about and movement in the right direction, 256 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 10: it would seem, are. 257 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 2: The territorial concessions at the key sticking point right now 258 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 2: for Ukraine. 259 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 10: I would say so, I mean, I think as each 260 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 10: of these twenty points is debated, you know, Zelenski will 261 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 10: be under a lot of pressure internally not to give 262 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 10: up territory, not to give up land. But it seems 263 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 10: like there's a plan somewhat at foot to have some 264 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 10: kind of demilitarized zone in Ukraine's east, and maybe that 265 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 10: could be a compromise that that could ultimately be acceptable. 266 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 10: You know, these lands in the east, in eastern Ukraine previously, 267 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 10: you know, before the war, were really the nation's industrial powerhouse. 268 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 10: And it's a lot to give up. But you know, 269 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 10: I think something's going to give, or something needs to give, 270 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 10: and that may be sort of the last and best 271 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 10: on negotiating ships that Zelensky has. 272 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 2: Let's take a deeper dive into one of the top 273 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 2: stories this morning. Ukrainian President vladimurn Zelenski is seeing a 274 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 2: meeting with President Trump will happen quote in the near future. 275 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 2: This announcement comes after he hand what he describes as 276 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 2: a good conversation with the US Special Envoy Steve Witkoff 277 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 2: and Trump's son in law Jared Kushner. We're joined now 278 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 2: by Stephen Carroll, the co host of Bloomberg Daybreak. Here. Stephen, 279 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 2: good morning to you. Is this a particularly hopeful sign? 280 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 8: John, Good morning again. 281 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 7: Look, this seems to be a sort of string of 282 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 7: positivity we've had out in the past couple of days, 283 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 7: and not just those most recent comments from Ukraine's President 284 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 7: Zelenski that he's expecting that meeting with Donald Trump at 285 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 7: a couple of days and that a lot can be 286 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 7: achieved before the new year. But it comes, as you mentioned, 287 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 7: after that phone call yesterday with the envoys Steve Witkoff 288 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 7: and Jared Kushner, and also some commentary we had out 289 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 7: of the Ukrainian president just a couple of days ago 290 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 7: as well. Now he's talked about there's still being sensitive 291 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 7: issues that need to be worked on, but was very 292 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 7: key in his own Christmas message that he was working 293 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 7: with the American team to understand how everything can be 294 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 7: put in place, he talked about the weeks ahead being 295 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 7: intensive and he thanked America for its efforts as well. 296 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 7: So the signals are all coming are quite positive. Remember 297 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 7: this is after months of negotiations over these issues as well, 298 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 7: So the fact that we're coming towards the end of 299 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 7: the year may actually see some movement towards refining that 300 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 7: police plan, which the US of course drew up and 301 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 7: Ukraine has been trying to refine since then as well. 302 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 7: It started its life as a twenty eight point piece plan. 303 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 7: It's now down to twenty but it's not entirely something 304 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 7: that Ukraine is satisfied with either. 305 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, how conflicted are the goals of Moscow and Kiev? 306 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 7: Well, I mean between Moscow and Kiev, the gap is 307 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 7: very far apart what we know about the US and 308 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 7: Ukraine talks because the choreography of this as we know 309 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 7: it is that the US and Ukraine are trying to 310 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 7: agree on a plan that then they'll present to Vladimir 311 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 7: Putin as well. So the key issues that are still 312 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 7: need to be worked out between the Ukrainian and American 313 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 7: negotiators are things particularly around territory, the territorial concessions in 314 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 7: the easton eastern region of Dounyetsk as well. This is 315 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 7: something that Vladimir Putin has been continually pushing for as well. Ukraine, 316 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 7: they're opposed the idea of giving up this territory as well, 317 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 7: fearing that it could leave them vulnerable if they had 318 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 7: this sort of state in place to something that could 319 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 7: be more I suppose, open up to a further conflict 320 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 7: in the future. The US has talked about this being 321 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 7: designated as a free economic or demilitarized zone, and that 322 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 7: is really where it was the point of differences over 323 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 7: that issue as well. Now Ukraine has said that giving 324 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 7: up any territory wouldn't require them to hold a referendums. 325 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 7: That potentially complicates issues a little bit further as well. 326 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 7: And of course they have moved progress on some of 327 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 7: the other key issues like the security guarantees at wanting 328 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 7: something modeled on NATO's Article five Common Defense Provision as well. 329 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 7: So let's progress on other issues. 330 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 3: This is Bloomberg Daybreak, your morning podcast on the stories 331 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 3: making news from Wall Street to Washington and beyond. 332 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 2: Look for us on your podcast feed by six am 333 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 2: Eastern each morning, on Apple, Spotify, or anywhere else you listen. 334 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 3: You can also listen live each morning starting at five 335 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 3: am Wall Street Time on Bloomberg eleven three to zero 336 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 3: in New York, Bloomberg in ninety nine to one in Washington, 337 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 3: Bloomberg ninety two nine in Boston, and nationwide on serious 338 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 3: XM Channel one twenty one. 339 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 2: Plus listen coast to coast on the Bloomberg Business app 340 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 2: now with Applecrplay and Android auto interfaces. 341 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 3: And don't forget to subscribe to Bloomberg News Now. 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