1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: This is the almost famous podcast with iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 2: Welcome to the almost Famous OG podcast. 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: This is Trista. 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 2: If you can't understand my voice, I mean it's been 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 2: a while, so hopefully you know that it's Trista and 6 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 2: I am very happily joined by my husband, Ryan Sutter, 7 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 2: who loves podcasting with me. No, I know you don't. 8 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 2: Once we get once we get going, it's all good. 9 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: And we're in this lovely Verbo in the Lake Tahoe, 10 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 2: which you know, coming to Lake Tahoe just reminds me 11 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 2: of being in Veil where we lived for twenty years, 12 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 2: and I cannot wait to go and look all around 13 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 2: the property. I know you've seen a little bit of it, and. 14 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 3: It is that's beautiful. 15 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: It is beautiful. 16 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:59,319 Speaker 2: We got so lucky, and you guys, listen, procrastinators can 17 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 2: rejoice because Verbo has last minute deals for private vacation 18 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: renolds and you'll want to ping this one. I think 19 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 2: it's called the River House in Tahoe and it is stunning. 20 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 2: It has like a massage room, it has a sauna. 21 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: What else does it have? 22 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 2: It has a beautiful pool and hot tub outside just 23 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 2: this babbling creek. 24 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: Is that what? You call it babbling, bubbling usually brook 25 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: babbling brook, thank you babbeling. This is why I bring him. 26 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 2: And they've got nearly three hundred thousand discounted properties that 27 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: you can book within thirty days of checking in. So 28 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 2: definitely go on verbo and check out their properties. But 29 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 2: I am really excited to chat with you because this 30 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 2: whole week I guess week because we're not in the weekend. 31 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: Was my idea, and I'm so proud of it. I'm 32 00:01:58,480 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: so proud because. 33 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 2: You know how much I love pickleball. 34 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 3: Yes I do. 35 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: And so here you are. 36 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 2: And yesterday you were wearing a lovely gift that I 37 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 2: gave you that prepped you for this week, guys, his 38 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 2: very own court shoes, because what were you playing in? 39 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 2: Tell the people what you were playing in before I 40 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 2: got you court shoes. 41 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 3: I don't remember, I don't know. You don't need to 42 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 3: be like super big. 43 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 2: You clearly have not been to my league. Clearly Epic 44 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,679 Speaker 2: pick a Ball shout out to Epic Pickleball in Littleton, Colorado. 45 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 46 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 2: No, it is serious business, s babe, and you have 47 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 2: to get into the mindset because we are playing in 48 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 2: a tournament today and we are winning. 49 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 3: I know, okay, I'm not worried about it. I think 50 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 3: I can handle it. I mean, it was pickleball to 51 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 3: as far as I understand, was, if not started, at 52 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 3: least made popular by a population usually over sixty five. 53 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: So I feel usually not anymore, and I. 54 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 3: Know it's I know it's caught on with the younger generation. 55 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 3: I actually feel bad for the older folks that started 56 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 3: it and had this kind of to themselves. Yeah right, 57 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 3: and then people like you have come along and made 58 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 3: it really popular and ruined it for all the old 59 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 3: old folks. So I hope you're proud of yourself with 60 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 3: you and your pickball. 61 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: Well, you know, I am getting up there in age, yeah, true, 62 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: fifty two. 63 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 3: I'm glad you actually found something that you enjoy doing. 64 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: I love it. 65 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 2: I love pickleball, and it's really for me obviously. It's 66 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 2: good girl time. Like we get together with you know, 67 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 2: some of our friends who are couples and we get 68 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: to play and I I just love it. I you know, 69 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 2: almost famous we usually do in all the iHeart podcasts. 70 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 2: We usually do like golf tournaments, and I don't play golf, 71 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: And I was like, hmm, could we please do a 72 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 2: pickleball tournament because that's something that I really love. And 73 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 2: I know that there are tons of Bachelor Nation people 74 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 2: and of course all of the rest of the people, 75 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 2: Real Housewives, all of the iHeart Podcast people who love 76 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 2: pickleball just as much as me. So I'm really excited 77 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 2: we are actually having a tournament. So there's like tears 78 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 2: you know, people. 79 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 3: That we know or is this yes, like a world world. 80 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: Yes, we're going to dominate the world. 81 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 3: People the. 82 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 2: Top, Maybe we should, maybe there's a new idea. 83 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: No, it is just us. It's all the people who 84 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:59,559 Speaker 1: are here for this event. 85 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 3: So I feel more confident in our in our potential. 86 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 2: Yes, Deanna has never played before, right, so, and I 87 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 2: think Bob and Canyon played once. 88 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 3: Well, sometimes people that haven't played are the ones that 89 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 3: you got to look out. 90 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 2: You're so right, especially with that big arm wingspand that 91 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 2: Bob has, so yeah, we got to watch out for them. Yeah, 92 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 2: we're watching out for you, Bob and Canyon. 93 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 3: Uh. 94 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 2: And then there's the Goldens, who I know will be 95 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 2: bringing it today. 96 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's their sport. 97 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: Okay, So who are you excited to see? 98 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 2: I know you probably don't even know most of the 99 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 2: people but. 100 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 3: I don't know who's coming. I mean, I always I'm 101 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 3: always excited to see Bob. Yeah, and I've already seen 102 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 3: him and we were both up early this morning, so 103 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 3: they got to catch up with him a little bit 104 00:05:55,760 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 3: and hear about his sort of wild travelers try and 105 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 3: get here. It seemed like it was difficult for everyone 106 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 3: to get here, including us, took a little longer than Yeah. 107 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 2: I think it was about the storms that he actually 108 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 2: experienced firsthand. But I think that's why we were delayed. Yeah, yeah, 109 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 2: because we had a little bit of a travel date. 110 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 1: Yesterday. 111 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 2: We were supposed to leave Denver at four of seven pm, 112 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 2: and I don't know how many times did it get 113 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 2: pushed back? 114 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: Five maybe? 115 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,799 Speaker 2: Anyway, we got here all as well, and it's beautiful 116 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 2: and more excited to be here. So what do you 117 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 2: love about Lake Tahoe? Like, I know what I love 118 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 2: and I just kind of specified, But what. 119 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: Do you like about time? 120 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 3: I just like all mountain areas. Yeah, I don't. I 121 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 3: think the first time did I or we came here 122 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 3: was when I used to do the extra triathlons and 123 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 3: this one was the national championship for a while. So 124 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 3: we came to that a couple of times, and then 125 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 3: and then it's been a while. All I came and 126 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 3: took a swift water certification class in Trucky a few 127 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 3: years ago to get instructors certified in that, and then 128 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 3: we came a few years ago with the almost famous people, 129 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 3: so I haven't spent a lot of time. It's and 130 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 3: it's funny because I was talking to Bob's wife. She 131 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 3: used to be a snowboarder and she would come up 132 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 3: here in snowboard in school. I mean, she was competitive, 133 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 3: so she would come up here and she had said 134 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 3: she had never been up here in the summertime. And 135 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever been up here in the. 136 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 2: Winter time, so true, which we haven't. 137 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 3: Crazy, So I love it as a summer destination. I've 138 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 3: never been here in the winter. And the lake obviously 139 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 3: is a big part of it. 140 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: It's beautiful, gorgeous. 141 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 2: One of my favorite pictures with Max, with us and 142 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 2: Max is when we were here for the most famous 143 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 2: thing and we stune on the dock, so. 144 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: Pretty out there. 145 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like the same thing, like about the mountains. 146 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 2: You know in Vale they say you come for the winter, 147 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 2: but you stay for the summer. I feel like summer 148 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 2: is so underrated and should not be, even though I 149 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 2: probably shouldn't be telling people that because then, you know, 150 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 2: the mountains will just kept popular. 151 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 3: And yeah, I think it's pretty popular. 152 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 2: True true story. And we have a little getaway without 153 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:28,239 Speaker 2: the kids. Hopefully they are taking care of their responsibilities, 154 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 2: including our dog. 155 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 3: I read them this morning about feeding Coda, and I 156 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 3: don't think they haven't. 157 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: Really know they did. He just did. 158 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 2: While we've been talking. Max said that blakesleeve at him 159 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 2: and I did say, make sure you get up, make 160 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 2: sure you walk Coda. 161 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 3: Like, yeah, I don't worry about them. I mean, they'll 162 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 3: do what they're going to do, and they're old enough to, 163 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 3: you know, sort of manage on their own. But yeah, 164 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 3: that poor little dog needs attention and he usually gets 165 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 3: it from me and I'm not there, so I don't 166 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 3: worry about it. Like he's like the little kid now 167 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 3: in our family because our little kids aren't little kids anymore. 168 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 2: No, they're not speaking of our baby boy just turned 169 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 2: eighteen years old. 170 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: Yeah I cannot. 171 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 2: I still can't believe that we actually have an adult 172 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 2: like he isn't he's official, Yeah, wanted he still leave babe, 173 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, buddy, Please don't. 174 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 1: Leave, Please don't leave me. 175 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to be really interesting to see what 176 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 2: his future entails at Blakesley too, obviously, but he is 177 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 2: right on the precipice. You know, He's got one more 178 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 2: year of school and then we'll see what happens. You know, 179 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 2: for everybody out there, he plays hockey. He would love 180 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 2: to play hockey after high school. But that's a whole 181 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 2: ball game in itself. You have to go to juniors 182 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 2: instead of going to college, and we do. You know, 183 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 2: both of us have master's degrees, and we value education 184 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 2: and we would love for him to get the college experience. 185 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: So at least I would so. 186 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 2: But I will say the more and more we've talked 187 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 2: about it, growing up, college was always a given, Like 188 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 2: for my kids, it was like, my kids will go 189 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 2: to college because I felt like that was something that 190 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 2: my parents instilled in me. And more and more I've 191 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 2: had conversations with people. We've talked about it, like the 192 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 2: trades and firefighting, and there's not one specific route that 193 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 2: you like, is the norm anymore? I feel like there's 194 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 2: so many options. 195 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I encourage him, you know, while you're 196 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 3: young to do all the things that you can only 197 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 3: do while you're young. Like, if he wants to continue 198 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 3: to try to play hockey, then he should do that now, 199 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 3: because that's like opportunities fall off the table as you 200 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 3: grow older. Yeah, And so to be able to take 201 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 3: advantage of all of those now and then, like navigating 202 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 3: the career world or the professional world is difficult, just 203 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 3: because there's so many things changing daily with everything from 204 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 3: artificial intelligence and what the impact that has on jobs, 205 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 3: and like if just from a big picture, like high 206 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 3: level view that I have, I certainly don't have to 207 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:32,119 Speaker 3: know a ton about it, but it seems like computers 208 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 3: are taking over or capable of taking over a lot 209 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 3: of the intellectual side of work, which is what you 210 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 3: go to college for. And so you're kind of wondering, well, 211 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 3: are you just going to college to learn something that 212 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 3: computer could do for you and trying to integrate you know, 213 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 3: I mean it's always been that way, even since just 214 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 3: calculators were invented. You just people just need to figure 215 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 3: out how to work with the the latest technology, and 216 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 3: that's kind of an unknown at this point. So don't 217 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 3: I don't worry too much about either of our kids. 218 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 3: I think they're both very capable people, and their heads 219 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 3: are on straight and they both like, you know, just 220 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 3: thinking about Max in particular, because he just turned eighteen, 221 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 3: in his future outside of our house is closer than Blakesley's. 222 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 3: But I think he's got he's just so well rounded, 223 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 3: and he's he's really developed a lot of maturity over 224 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 3: the last few years, and I think that he's going 225 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 3: to be fine whatever he does. And then and then 226 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 3: Blakesley's a sixteen year old girl, and it's a little 227 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 3: bit harder at least for me to sort of see 228 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 3: any kind of like I don't think she's really even 229 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 3: thinking about it. 230 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 2: I mean, I think she has a little bit, just 231 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 2: because she you know, talks about dancing or modeling or 232 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 2: you know, fashion or whatever, and I bring it up 233 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 2: all the time, like, you know, about college, and we've 234 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 2: looked at a couple of colleges. So I think just 235 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 2: naturally it comes from that conversation of mom nagging and 236 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 2: saying like, you know, what do you want to do? 237 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 2: What do you want to do? 238 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I get it. But like where were we 239 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 3: we were driving home from Max's birthday dinner, Yeah, and 240 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 3: we saw a Bronco and she's always wanted a Bronco 241 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 3: and she's like, you know, Dad, actually I kind of 242 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 3: like g wagons better. 243 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: No, I was like, okay, well who doesn't so does. 244 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 3: Everyone, but that's going to have to be like that's 245 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 3: where her mind is. This is sure I want she 246 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 3: wants to be successful. I just don't know that she 247 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 3: knows in what yet. 248 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, she doesn't get the reality of the situation 249 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: quite yet. 250 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 2: One thing we know is that she will not be 251 00:13:50,640 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 2: getting a g wagon from us. So dinner is you know, 252 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 2: for Max's birthday. 253 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: The guilt is alive and well in me because I 254 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: wasn't there. 255 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 3: I was wondering if you were going to bring that 256 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 3: Oh you. 257 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 2: I mean, hello reality. I'm I definitely feel guilty that 258 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 2: I wasn't there. I as you know, I feel like 259 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 2: it's really important to take advantage of opportunities and spend 260 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 2: time with friends, and that's kind of me time and 261 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 2: got invited to go to Caitlin Bristow's fortieth birthday celebration 262 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 2: in Cabo, and of course just so happened to be 263 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 2: when our son turned eighteen years old, so. 264 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 3: His last birthday at our. 265 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 2: Would you stop that No, not true, because next year 266 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 2: he will be at home before he goes away. 267 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 3: Maybe there's no guarantees. 268 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 2: Like you have to add on, like just add on 269 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 2: to that guilt bit. You're doing a real good job 270 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 2: of that. 271 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 3: It's my job. 272 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: It's not your job. It's your job to. 273 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 3: Support one of the parents. Was able to get oh 274 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 3: day off working, spend the eighteenth birthday with. 275 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: Like, you haven't missed a birthday. 276 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 3: In eighteenth it's a big one. 277 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: AnyWho. 278 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 3: Anyway, what are you saying about your trip to Mexico? 279 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 3: Didn't you take? Calen's birthday was in Mexico. 280 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 2: Kaln's birthday was in Mexico in Cabo. Her mom owns 281 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 2: a house there and was very generous and letting us 282 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 2: and hosting us and letting us stay there. I don't 283 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 2: think I told you this, but her mom was going 284 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 2: to be there and her appendix burst. Yeah, so she 285 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 2: couldn't be there unfortunately. So shout out to Leslie. I 286 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 2: wish I could have spent time with you, but oh 287 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 2: she was. She was, you know, trying to get healthy. Anyway, 288 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 2: we had an incredible girls trip and I really do 289 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 2: feel like it is important for me to I haven't had. 290 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 2: I haven't done anything this summer, Like you went to 291 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 2: have a soupe, falls, you went to like on backpacking 292 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 2: trips or whatever with both of the kids, and I 293 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 2: just I haven't done anything. And I was like, this 294 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 2: is the one. And I asked you guys before I 295 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 2: booked the Chickens. 296 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 3: Well, and you were invited to all of those trips. 297 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 3: It's just those that's not really your thing. 298 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, someone needed to stay home with 299 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 2: Coda because Max was working when you went to have 300 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 2: a supe. 301 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: You couldn't take him. 302 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 2: Remember what you just said about him being our baby. Yeah, 303 00:16:55,680 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 2: so anyway, I thank you for. 304 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: Being semi supportive of the trip. 305 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 2: It really was like, you know, for me, social stuff 306 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 2: fills my bucket. 307 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 1: You know that. 308 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 2: Girlfriends fill my bucket, and I didn't. I only knew, 309 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 2: Like I obviously I know Caitlin. It's her birthday and 310 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 2: that's why I got invited, but because I'm a friend. 311 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 2: But I only knew a couple of them because one 312 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 2: has been had been on The Better Et cetera podcast 313 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 2: that I used to do, and I was on her podcast, 314 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 2: Aaron Trelore, and then Cleo is like her, you know 315 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 2: she works with with Caitlin on her Spade and Sparrows brand, 316 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 2: so we had we had talked. I had never met 317 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 2: Whitney Angel, who is Crystal's. 318 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 1: Chosen person. 319 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 2: They got engaged but then uh separated and I adore 320 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 2: her Shay who's one of her best friends from growing up, 321 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 2: Jess one of her friends from growing up, and then 322 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 2: who am I missing Kat who's like herbestie in Nashville, 323 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 2: And just to be able to meet new friends that 324 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 2: we were like all on the same page, like the 325 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 2: same wavelength. I feel like we all are very interested 326 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 2: in like deep connection and conversation, and it was just easy. 327 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 2: It was one of those trips where everyone got along 328 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 2: so well and it was just easy. 329 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: There was no drama. 330 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 2: Shay had everything like planned out to the nines, so 331 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 2: didn't have to even think about anything and could just 332 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 2: go and have fun. We dressed up like Abuela's one night, 333 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 2: which was so fun, and Leslie had arranged for a 334 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 2: mariachi band to come and serenade us, which was hysterical. 335 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 2: I cannot wait for Caitlin to post our TikTok that 336 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 2: we did, which was so much fun. Like I love 337 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 2: I Love feeling young when I'm definitely not. Like I 338 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 2: was the old, the old abuela of the group and. 339 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 3: You didn't even have to dress up, really, you just 340 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 3: I know, right. 341 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 2: I totally didn't. I mean literally, if I'd let my 342 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 2: hair grow out, it would all be white anyway. So 343 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 2: I actually was going to say that in the like 344 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 2: the group chat before we left, I'm like, do I 345 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 2: have to really bring anything? Because you know, I am 346 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 2: fifty two years old anyway, Yes, we all dressed up. 347 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 2: I put towels in my under my bra and it 348 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 2: tucked in my underwear just to like give myself a 349 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 2: little extra padding. 350 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: Thankfully. 351 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 2: My friend Kate Cubic had like a Grandma costume like 352 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 2: costume in that she had a cane and a wig 353 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 2: and the glasses with the like beaded Oh my gosh, 354 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 2: it was so funny. So I've put on the glasses 355 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 2: and it has this beaded you know, the beaded thing 356 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 2: that you put herud on your next so they don't 357 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 2: fall off. And I had them hanging in the front 358 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 2: like I because I don't normally wear them. And Whitney 359 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:09,959 Speaker 2: was like we were getting ready, and she was like, 360 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,199 Speaker 2: I think that goes in the back, you know, so 361 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 2: that they don't fall off, because the whole purpose of 362 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 2: the beaded necklace thing that goes on your glasses is 363 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,199 Speaker 2: you wear them around the back of your neck so 364 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 2: they don't fall off. And I had them in the front, 365 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, yeah, new to this granny game. 366 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 2: But you'll get it figured out and I'll get it 367 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 2: figured out of it. 368 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. 369 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 2: And the Majong portion and Majong I'm all about those, 370 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 2: those golden games. I will say we were we were 371 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 2: out to lunch on Max's birthday, and I definitely got emotional. 372 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:05,439 Speaker 2: I was I was definitely teary and sad that I 373 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 2: wasn't with all of you, but think, I'm so thankful 374 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 2: to Blakesley because before I left, you know, this was 375 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 2: my this was my contribution is and usually, as I 376 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 2: will say, I decided I was going to get him 377 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,959 Speaker 2: eighteen presents for his eighteenth birthday, went and did all 378 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 2: the shopping, bought the guitar, got bought the sambas, bought 379 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 2: the you know, all the other things and oh the 380 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 2: pool stick, and wrap them all in our closet before 381 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 2: I left, so that Blakesley could just like take them 382 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 2: and set them up and got you know, the banner 383 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 2: out so she could hang that up. So I was 384 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 2: part of it, even though it was in preparation mode. 385 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Max had a Grade eighteenth birthday, So 386 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 3: I don't think it would have been nice to have 387 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,719 Speaker 3: you there obviously if you didn't have something else going on. 388 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,479 Speaker 3: But I don't think anyone holds it. Again, you were 389 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 3: going to spend that time in Mexico, and we understand 390 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 3: that you that you need and deserve that time and Max, 391 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 3: Max didn't like it, didn't phase him one way or 392 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 3: the other end. So I think it was fortuitous for 393 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 3: me because that vacation day popped up and I was 394 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 3: able to get it, and then he and I were 395 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 3: able to take that backpacking trip and spend some really 396 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 3: quality time together. Blakes had a little bit of time 397 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 3: on her own, and it all kind of worked out, 398 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 3: and then we ended up getting back and going to dinner, 399 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 3: and his buddies came down from the mountains and are 400 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 3: still at our house, so who knows. So I think 401 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 3: it worked out really well for everyone. It was a 402 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 3: great weekend and I think he'll remember it. You'll remember it. 403 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 3: I think it's a good it just worked out. It 404 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 3: was it was good on I don't know a lot 405 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 3: of different fronts, and so yeah, I'm glad you had 406 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 3: a good time and guts to spend that time with 407 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,199 Speaker 3: your friends. And I'm glad I got to spend that 408 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 3: time with just Max because I don't get a lot 409 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 3: of that opportunity these days, so A skipped. 410 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree you guys. 411 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 2: I thought it was really special that you were able 412 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 2: to get time off and that he was willing to 413 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 2: go on this backpacking trip with you, because it's usually 414 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 2: your little adventure buddy Blakesley that goes on those with you. 415 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,719 Speaker 2: I really feel like I'm proud of him he like 416 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 2: you've said, over the past few years, but I think 417 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 2: most recently he's really like open to whatever, Like he 418 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 2: doesn't automatically say nah, I just want to hang out 419 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,360 Speaker 2: and play video games or like be on my phone. 420 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 2: I feel like he's open to experiencing life more so lately. 421 00:23:55,960 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, he was fully engaged in and it 422 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 3: wasn't like I didn't feel like he was there just 423 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 3: to appease me. Yeah, you know, he was. He waded 424 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 3: out into the lake and was looking for fish and 425 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 3: climbing on rocks like he always did when he was little, 426 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 3: And Yeah, he really seemed to embrace the experience and 427 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 3: enjoy it. And I think I anticipate him doing that 428 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,479 Speaker 3: on his own in his life, which is what you 429 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 3: hope for as a parent, is that you do all 430 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 3: these things to exemplify the characteristics that you want your 431 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 3: kids to some they live live into and you don't 432 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 3: actually see that happening until this point in their lives. Yeah, 433 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 3: when they start to come around and have an appreciation 434 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 3: for the environment or nature and that sort of stuff, 435 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 3: and they turn into the people that you really hoped 436 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 3: they would turn into as you kind of guided them 437 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 3: along their paths. But you never really know. And so 438 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 3: when you start to see little things like that, like 439 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 3: his whiteboard with the quotes, and yes, his appreciation of 440 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 3: going to and going camping with his friends and all 441 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 3: these sorts of things that, Yeah, at least from my 442 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 3: side of parenting, I always try to sort of encourage 443 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 3: and he's picked up on that, which is kind of 444 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 3: what you hope for. 445 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 2: Oh he he he loves you, He admires you, he 446 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 2: looks up to you, And I think that you have 447 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 2: done such a good job of instilling that like love 448 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 2: of nature and adventure in him. 449 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: So thank you. 450 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 2: So going back to Caitlin's birthday, I just have to 451 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 2: say how proud of her I am. She has worked 452 00:25:55,119 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 2: so hard on herself and puts so much work. Again, 453 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,120 Speaker 2: there's a place called Hoffman that I feel like she's 454 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 2: been to. I so want to go. Like it is 455 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 2: like deep dive into self growth, if you will. I 456 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 2: don't know if that's a good way to describe it, 457 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 2: but from what I understand, it seems so powerful and 458 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 2: like helping you get through trauma and any issues that 459 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:34,360 Speaker 2: you work on or need to work on in yourself. Anyway, 460 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 2: I'm just really proud of her and really happy for her. 461 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 1: She's in such a good place right now. 462 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 2: And one of the girls, Aaron's, she has this podcast 463 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 2: called Raw Beauty Talks I think that's what it's called, 464 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 2: and really is like a life coach, and she asked 465 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 2: Caitlin like every dinner or meal or just when we 466 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 2: were sitting around, we would ask each other questions and 467 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 2: we even did the living card thing that you guys 468 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 2: did for me on my fiftieth you know, she was 469 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 2: there and curse out too. 470 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: Which was really special. 471 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 2: But and everyone kind of had the same sentiment that 472 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,360 Speaker 2: they were happy for her and proud of her for 473 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 2: you know, what she's done to work on herself and 474 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 2: her anxiety and all of that. And she talks openly 475 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,400 Speaker 2: about this, so it's not like I'm you know, giving 476 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 2: up any secrets that she has. But Aaron asked this question, like, 477 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 2: what do you hope in this next chapter of your life? 478 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: What do you hope for yourself? And she said. 479 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 2: That she's really in the mode of protecting her peace, 480 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 2: which I was like, that is I love that. And actually, 481 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 2: I'm putting together a real that I'm going to put 482 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 2: out today, and I've found a song that literally says 483 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 2: in it about protecting your piece. I think it's called 484 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 2: Queen Energy, and I was like, this is the perfect song. 485 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 1: So I'm just so proud of her. 486 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 2: I'm I'm I feel really blessed and grateful to have 487 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 2: been extended the invitation to be part of her celebration. 488 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 1: I mean, she. 489 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 2: Celebrated a lot. This was like her last, her last 490 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 2: celebration for her fortieth birthday, and I feel really lucky 491 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 2: that I got to be a part of it, because 492 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 2: I you know, she gets a lot of criticism, and 493 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 2: I think she's a wonderful, beautiful human being, and I 494 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 2: love surrounding myself with people like that, all of. 495 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 3: You guys that have been the focus of these shows, 496 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 3: and it seems so funny to be talking about the 497 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 3: Bachelor after twenty whatever some years, But everybody that's put 498 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 3: themselves out there has had, especially lately, has had they 499 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 3: have an increased level of criticism from the world because 500 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 3: the world's just more critical than when we were on it. 501 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 3: There were forever less avenues of criticism, so that helped us. 502 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 3: But I think it's hard for people like Caitlin, who 503 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 3: are great people, but people can pick them apart and 504 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 3: it's impossible to not let that get to you. So 505 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 3: for her and anyone who's going through those types of struggles, 506 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 3: it's great to find places like Hoffman or just people 507 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 3: you can talk to or avenues that you can do 508 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,239 Speaker 3: some introspection and put some perspective on your life and 509 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 3: realize that the people that matter are the ones that 510 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 3: go to your fortieth birthday party, that actually skip their 511 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 3: eighteen year old son's birthday party to go to your 512 00:29:56,120 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 3: fortieth birthday party because they care so much about you 513 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 3: in your future. And that's what more people need, is 514 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 3: just whether your support group is one or one hundred, 515 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 3: everybody just needs somebody that they can kind of go 516 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 3: to to regain their perspective and purpose and that sort 517 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 3: of stuff. And so I'm glad that you were able 518 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 3: to be a part of that for her, and I 519 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 3: hope that she can continue to take this momentum moving 520 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 3: forward and really do great things with her life. I'm 521 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 3: sure she will. She's an awesome person. So I'm glad 522 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 3: you were able to be a part of that. 523 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, me too. 524 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 2: I felt like it was it was just good energy, 525 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 2: like really good positive energy. And I know you saw, 526 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 2: but I got her. She loves playing cards and I 527 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 2: had every girl send five or six pictures of them 528 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 2: with her, and I had playing cards made for her, 529 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 2: and she loved it, like with everybody's pictures on them, 530 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 2: she loved it. So just to be able to shower 531 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 2: her with love, because I always feel like she showers 532 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 2: me with so much love. Like I remember when I 533 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 2: was sick and she sent flowers like and I was 534 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 2: just I was sick. It's not like my appendix burst 535 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 2: or anything. So like just I adore you, Caitlin, if 536 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 2: you're listening, and I just wish you know the world 537 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 2: saw more of that positive light and energy in you 538 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 2: that I see. 539 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: But happy fortieth birthday. 540 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 2: Okay, well, thanks for joining me in this amazing Verbo Again, 541 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,719 Speaker 2: thank you to Verbo for helping us out with a 542 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 2: wonderful location for our podcast Pickaball Tournament our iHeart pick 543 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 2: a Ball Tournament and tune in later for more with 544 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 2: the almost famous ojis.