WEBVTT - 4_28_Mick Shots.mp3 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:05.320 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.360 --> 0:00:06.960 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:09.039 --> 0:00:10.039 Cowboys. 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:17.200 This is mick Shots streaming live on dallascowboys dot Com 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:21.520 and the official Dallas Cowboys have now Here are Bill Jones, 0:00:21.760 --> 0:00:27.480 Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola. 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:33.199 Well, well, well we are. 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:38.800 Post draft and this is Mickshots, and I can't wait 0:00:38.840 --> 0:00:41.080 to hear what Everson and Mickey have to. 0:00:41.080 --> 0:00:43.840 Say about what the Cowboys. 0:00:43.560 --> 0:00:51.120 Did Thursday, Friday and Saturday. And we have football players. 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:54.120 I saw one football player walking out on the field 0:00:54.160 --> 0:00:54.880 as I walked. 0:00:54.880 --> 0:00:57.480 They're going to see out there, Bill for phase two 0:00:57.560 --> 0:00:59.040 of the offseason workouts. 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:02.240 Right. I had an opportunity of a week or so 0:01:02.320 --> 0:01:06.600 ago to talk with Brian Schottenheimer about all the draft process, 0:01:06.800 --> 0:01:10.840 and he couldn't wait until two days after the draft, 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:13.720 where they can he can actually get his coaching staff 0:01:13.840 --> 0:01:15.560 on the field with these guys a little bit. 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:18.720 So the draft choices are here, No, no, no, these 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:19.440 are the veteran guys. 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:20.560 We moved on. 0:01:21.319 --> 0:01:23.920 The draft is in the rear view mirror. Now now 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:29.080 we got to talk, Yes we do, and do we start? 0:01:29.440 --> 0:01:29.720 Sure? 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:30.240 Why not? 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:33.880 Do we start with the cornerback or what the cornerback 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:45.759 or the guy. 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:44.000 I'm gone in the first round. I've always said it. 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:47.440 I've always despected there's no idea what he's talking about. 0:01:47.920 --> 0:01:51.880 Take a guy. Okay, here we go, and they're not 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:53.040 going to change him, are they. 0:01:53.280 --> 0:01:56.960 No, he's a guard. He's he did start one game 0:01:57.000 --> 0:01:59.800 at left tackle at Alabama due to an injury, but 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:00.720 the left tackle. 0:02:00.800 --> 0:02:03.440 But they have to you have to answer to the people, man, 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:06.760 because you know you've been that's right walking against. 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:08.720 It and here we are, man, And it got in 0:02:08.760 --> 0:02:09.440 a good one too. 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:14.000 Well. I guess here's the deal. They follwed their board right, 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:17.840 the board they filed, how they had the players rated, 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:23.960 you know, for a little bit, deliberated trading down. But 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:28.520 it was with Houston and they're at twenty five. You 0:02:28.600 --> 0:02:31.720 can't do that, yeah, And they certainly weren't getting enough 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:35.639 to encourage them to do that. I mean, if you're 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:38.440 drafting a twenty five, you're taking a second round player. 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:42.560 So but really, the only way I guess Houston, if 0:02:42.600 --> 0:02:44.200 I was just trying to do the math on it, 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:46.920 to move up that far, they would have had to 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:50.720 have been offering to make it work on the trade 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:53.760 value chart, they would have to be giving up their 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:57.040 second and their third right to move up or a 0:02:57.360 --> 0:02:58.280 first next year. 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:00.800 And I and I saw where even a second and 0:03:00.880 --> 0:03:03.720 a third the Cowboys were going to come back by 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:06.320 on the point chart minus fifteen. 0:03:06.480 --> 0:03:08.639 Okay, well then it would be a second, a third 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:10.160 and some fit right. 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:12.360 Yeah, And they didn't want to give up all that. 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:16.280 So and they so, I'm gonna nobody else traded up. 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:18.359 So I'm going to assume if they were, they were 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:20.079 offering a future one. 0:03:20.040 --> 0:03:22.400 Or yeah, I would think so to move. 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:23.639 Up thirteen spots. 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:27.359 So they drafted their board. That's where they had this 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:34.839 guy ranked. And uh, all I know is I'll see 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:35.280 if I have. 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:35.560 It on it. 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:38.920 You should you should that it should be like I 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:41.480 know so much, you should shouldn't be. 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:45.240 Well, all I know is this, I'm looking for more information. 0:03:45.280 --> 0:03:47.560 You sound like you're convinces prad. 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:52.440 All I know is and I didn't watch any tape 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:55.160 of the guy beforehand or anything. But he comes in 0:03:55.320 --> 0:03:58.680 with his family for the press conference, right, and I'm 0:03:58.760 --> 0:04:01.240 sitting there and I got in their late, so I'm 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:04.800 sitting on the side and the family came in and 0:04:04.840 --> 0:04:09.640 I had to move over one seat right, so sisters, whatever, aunt, 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:15.000 mom and dad, brother, And he starts this press conference 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:18.039 and we were probably I don't know, five minutes in 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:22.039 or so, and I wrote down on my notes, is 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:23.119 this guy for real? 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:24.520 Just like that? 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:27.760 And then later I wrote, I don't think I've ever 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:33.200 heard anybody handle himself so well at a press conference. 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:37.240 I said, now, if he can play, they hit the 0:04:37.279 --> 0:04:40.680 ball out of the park with this guy. He was 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:45.960 just he was so impressive, handled himself with such class, 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:51.640 how he talked, what he said, what he said on 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:55.480 the conference call. And somebody asked him, can you play 0:04:56.080 --> 0:04:59.200 you know, right guard? You were playing left guard. He goes, 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:03.600 I can play football, He goes, I can play either side. 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:06.679 They want me to play defensive end, I'm playing defense, 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:10.839 then linenbacker, full back, whatever they want. I want to 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:11.600 play football. 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:14.000 Well, and he said, I think he had twenty six 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:16.360 starts at left guard. He said there were games though, 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:19.839 where they would switch where he would play right guard too. 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:21.919 Even though he started the game at left guard, he 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:24.120 would flip over and play right guard at times. What 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:25.760 would be the purpose of that, I don't know. Maybe 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:28.560 it's opponent, Maybe the opponent's lining up a monster over 0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:30.960 here on the left side of their defense, and they. 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:33.320 Want, this is where we're going to run the ball. Yeah, 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:35.719 that's right over there on that side. 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:38.120 Yeah maybe that something like that. But he said that's 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:41.240 what he said too, So he does have some experience, right. 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:45.120 And see, I've always you know, I argue about that, well, 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:48.000 he can only play left guard. It's like saying I 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:51.200 can only play left side, left corner. You play well, 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:54.480 you play you know as a dB. I'm going to 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:56.560 go in motion with that guy. I'm not the right 0:05:57.240 --> 0:06:00.279 corner anymore. I'm a left corner because the receiven brought 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:03.279 me over there. If you have offensive lineman, you should 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:05.520 be able to play both sides. I just I never 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:07.720 thought that was a big deal, but obviously it is. 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:08.600 And I'm glad he can. 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:12.120 You know who I bet it's elated with this pick Nate. 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:16.440 And I was told this was the guy he wanted. 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:20.760 And Tyler Booker is going to hit it off big 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:22.480 time with natean for a thing. 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:27.960 He understood the history of the Cowboys. He knew about 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:30.440 Larry Allen, he knew about Zach. 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:32.599 Martin well, and I told him about Nate Newton. 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:35.880 And you told stuff. 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:38.960 I also told him about John Nylon blame Nye, and. 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:42.320 Her realized, this is only the third time they've taken 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:46.320 a guard in the first round, a true guarden, and 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:51.800 or what fourth time Nylon, Larry Allen, Zach Martin and 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:55.839 then this guy. So Nylon was like the sixth pick 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:59.640 in the sixty sixth drive, So you have to go back. 0:06:59.880 --> 0:07:04.320 So they're reasoning, and when I heard it put this way, 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:09.479 I think I understood. Number One, if you were going 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:12.920 to replace Zach Martin and what you're used to having 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:16.120 at right guard, you don't just want a guy there 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:19.640 right you You want to try to replace the quality 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:23.640 of Zach Martin if it's possible, no doubt. Number Two, 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:29.200 the other thing they pointed out is the competition they 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:32.239 have to face in the NFC East with all those 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:36.360 big slobber knocker defensive tackles, you know, Philadelphia and the 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:41.480 Giants Washington. That they needed to be strong in the 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:43.760 middle if they were going to take on these. 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:46.320 Guys, which is what we are known to be. Right 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:49.440 That's that's when we're at our best as an organization. 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:52.680 We're strong right where we need to be strong right now. 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:56.680 And if you're strong, there chances are your running backs 0:07:56.720 --> 0:08:00.520 will have a chance, your quarterback in the pocket, and 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:03.560 your wide receivers might be able to And I went 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:07.840 back to the interview I did with Jason Garrett when 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:11.760 Zach Martin retired, and he and that was his his word. 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:15.520 He goes, if you're not strong upfront, doesn't matter how 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:18.680 good the quarterback, running back, wide receiver is, You'll never 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:19.520 see their talent. 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:19.920 Nope. 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:21.640 If the offensive line is not. 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:26.960 Strong, offensive line travels, well, yeah, I love it. 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:29.760 It's playoff football. It's road football. 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:32.840 And this is exactly what Who. 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:36.400 Are the top teams in the NFC last year? The 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:37.439 NFC last year? 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:40.839 Who Detroit and Lions? 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:42.199 Look at their offensive linds. 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:45.360 Yeah, look at their running backs, both of them. 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:49.120 So uh And that's exactly what this is a fact 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:52.640 similar of what Jason did right his three of his 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:55.760 first four first round picks when he became head coach 0:08:55.880 --> 0:08:59.400 or offensive line And now they've done the same thing, 0:08:59.480 --> 0:08:59.640 you know. 0:08:59.640 --> 0:09:02.280 And the other thing is, especially when you're replacing a 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:04.360 guy like Zach Martin, who was a first round draft 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:09.640 pick in future Hall of Famer, Okay, if you're looking 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:13.800 to really upgrade your offensive line, you look across the 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:16.280 board across the league, and sure there are fourth and 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:20.520 fifth round, sixth round offensive lineman who eventually becomes starters. 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:24.360 But as far as difference makers on the offensive line, 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:26.680 I don't care whether it's a tackle or a guard. 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:29.040 It's got to be a first or second round draft 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:30.200 pick usually, right, you. 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:32.760 Don't usually miss those, That's what you're saying. 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:33.440 No, they don't. 0:09:33.480 --> 0:09:35.880 You can miss on them. You can miss on them, 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:39.000 is just very hard to find. They go faster, you know, 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:41.720 the really good ones. And in fact, in this draft, 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:45.000 the other guy that I think the Cowboys probably had 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:48.080 their eye on if they did not take an offensive 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:51.320 guard or a tackle who can play offensive guard to 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:53.839 start his career in the first round, would have been 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:56.760 and helped me with the pronunciation on this, Well, no 0:09:56.800 --> 0:10:02.160 one in this room can you with that, Jonah Savaia 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:06.440 and Nayah Okay. He would have been a second round guy. Well, 0:10:06.480 --> 0:10:08.319 he would not have been available for the Cowboys in 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:10.199 the second round, as it turned out, because he went 0:10:10.280 --> 0:10:12.720 number thirty seven to Miami. And so if you were 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:15.800 going to really upgrade the offensive line through the draft, 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:18.319 it was going to have to be in the first round. 0:10:18.120 --> 0:10:22.680 With Tyler Booker in my opinion, and which Texas also 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:26.320 to a lot of people out there are concerned that 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:28.360 they didn't get a wide receiver in the draft, which 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:31.680 is and I but I look at this draft and 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:34.200 I don't think it was a very good year for 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:38.000 wide receiver prospects in this in this year's draft, where 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:41.200 if you were going to truly find a number two 0:10:41.840 --> 0:10:45.520 wide receiver on this depth chart, you needed to do 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:47.600 it in the first round. You might be able to 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:50.560 find one in the second round, but it had to 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:55.160 be one of those three, whether it's Tep McMillan, Matthew Golden, 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:58.160 or a Mecca Buka. And so you had to make 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:00.480 a decision there. And one of the and one of 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:04.520 the decisions that one of the factors in that decision 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:07.000 is Okay, if you don't get a wide receiver in 0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:09.640 the draft, then what can you do outside the draft 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:12.840 and free agency? And we talked about this right last week, 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:16.000 and there are at least three receivers out there, and 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:19.280 Amari Cooper and Keenan Allen and Tyler. 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:21.600 Boyd, and I must say we better move fast. And 0:11:21.679 --> 0:11:24.160 because that's right now, everyone knows what's what. 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:27.240 So that's the next Uh, that's the next one. 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:29.319 Either one of those three guys. I think we should 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:29.920 be moving. 0:11:29.760 --> 0:11:32.720 Very and And the way to look at it is, 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:38.280 once they got into the second round and Luther Burden 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:43.640 went number seven, the next wide receiver drafted was Trey 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:46.080 Harris of Mississippi at twenty. 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:50.920 Give me the overall number, not the number of the round. 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:51.800 Fifty five. 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:53.880 Okay, So the Cowboys were picking at forty four. 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:58.719 Yeah, and there wasn't another wide receiver taken if and 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:02.440 then the next one after that was at fifty eight, 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:03.559 Jack Best. 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:06.400 I mean think, yeah and so, but think about it. 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:09.160 There were three receivers taken in the first round, and 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:11.080 those are the ones that were all linked to the 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:16.200 Cowboys that they had thirty visits with. And so missu 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:19.360 Misso came here and Miszoo did too. Yeah, but he 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:21.440 was not a He did not go in the first. 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:26.000 U second or even pick in the in the second. 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:28.880 Round, yeah and so and after that, so he would 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:31.000 not have been available for the Cowboys at forty four. 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:34.439 And again, the way they looked at it is there 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:37.720 wasn't one guy to trade up for that was going 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:39.640 to make such a significant Yeah, I was. 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:41.720 Gonna say, what kind of difference can he make. 0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:44.559 Because they don't have a fourth round pick, so it's 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:47.800 either a third or a fifth to move up or 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:51.480 next year or next year, right, so next year's fourth. 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:54.040 So the way they're looking at it right now and 0:12:54.160 --> 0:12:57.840 Bill is that's the number one choice. You sign a 0:12:57.920 --> 0:13:03.200 veteran guy on a one year deal. They're sitting there going, Okay, 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:07.720 we had a high grade on Jonathan Mingo. How much 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:09.760 of a chance did he have last year? When you 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:13.240 bring him in halfway through the season, he's our fourth 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:15.880 round pick. He's a wide receiver now. 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:17.520 So you got a fourth round pick in here with 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:18.679 two years experience, and. 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:24.320 Then here's and here's the sleeper. Brian Schottenheimer thinks that 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:27.240 they can do a heck of a lot more with 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:32.280 Cavante Turpin than how he was used previously. He thinks 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:36.280 that they're going to lean on him and not just 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:39.560 a slot guy that they've got, and they feel like 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:45.439 after three years here, he has made himself more versatile, 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:49.120 that he understands the offense a little bit. He even 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:52.680 said it, he goes second year, Cavante Turpin, if you 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:55.360 told me we were going to give him thirty forty 0:13:55.360 --> 0:14:00.199 snaps at wide receiver. He did the thing like like 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:03.600 an air through his teeth, Like, I don't know about that. 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:06.120 Well, they told you that with the contract they gave, right, 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:08.600 they didn't. You don't give him a three year, eighteen 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:12.160 million dollar contract extension with the hopes that he might 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:14.480 get an opportunity to return a kickoff or a touchdown. 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:17.960 They think they can use him at wide receiver. And 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:21.760 one of the reasons why his last year in the UFL, 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:25.200 when he was the offensive player of the year, it 0:14:25.280 --> 0:14:28.840 wasn't just his returns. He had like forty four catches 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:31.960 in when do they play ten games? Something like that, 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:33.560 And so then. 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:35.600 We're going back to college at TCU, he was a 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:36.520 really good receiver. 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:39.880 He is well to me when it comes to him. 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:44.160 It seemed as if anytime we had a play for him, 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:48.520 your offensive line has got to hold right, and they were. 0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:50.440 Not give him a chance to you have. 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:52.400 Yeah, we would look. 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:54.920 For him and we couldn't see him because you got 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:58.280 the offensive line, the d line within your face, which gets. 0:14:57.920 --> 0:15:02.160 Back to the Big Green Book scouting report on Tyler 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:10.680 Bucker great push, strong maller wide base, Stemy's pass rushers. 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:13.360 He can anchor in there, and you go. 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:17.960 Here's another thing about him. It was Saturday, I don't 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:20.280 know if it was around noon or what. I was 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:24.360 coming up the steps and he and his family were 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:28.840 walking out the side door that upstairs, and he turned 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:31.920 and he looked at me and he just left. His 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:35.560 people came over and introduced himself, shook my hand and 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:39.480 introduced himself right, And I was like, who does that? 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:40.560 How did they know you? 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:43.200 He didn't. He had no idea. 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:45.480 You know what he did in the press some. 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:49.080 Old fark walking down the hallway and said, maybe he 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:50.160 was right. 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:55.720 You know what, We had him before the press conference. 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:59.440 He came to the Cowboys TV studio to do an interview. 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:01.960 I did sit down interview with him. So he comes 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:05.400 in there with his family and there were probably eight 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:10.600 to ten production people that were around in the studio whatever. 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:13.600 And so after we got done with before and after 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:15.560 the interview, he made sure he shook the hand of 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:18.120 everybody in that room. I mean he went out on 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:20.800 his own seeking them. There'd be a guy over on 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:22.680 the other side of the studio and he went over. 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:25.160 He walked over and said, Hey, I'm Tyler Booker. Whatever, 0:16:25.160 --> 0:16:26.920 and he and he didn't just so that's the kind 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:27.480 of Yeah. 0:16:27.600 --> 0:16:31.640 No, I saw his podcast. I talked to Spags this weekend. 0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:36.680 I saw his podcast with with Michael Pasa. Yeah, and 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:38.800 I heard that Michael Pasta was kind of cool on 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:40.640 the picket first and. 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:42.400 Then there's hope said on tet McMillan. 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:46.840 I'll see. I wasn't aware of that, but during this interview, 0:16:48.280 --> 0:16:50.560 Booker changed his mind. 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:54.320 Yeah, he changed Michael's mind and they were WHOA, let's 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:58.640 go okay, well, Michae's on board. 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:01.680 It was when Booker said that his mission when he 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:04.760 blocks is to make the guy blocks not want to 0:17:04.760 --> 0:17:05.840 play football. 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:08.440 And it was it was a build up the way 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:10.600 he build it up, like first quarter is the second quarter, 0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:13.359 that's right, And the build up is what got Michael going, 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:13.639 you know. 0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:17.280 And it wasn't like a perfunctory handshake. He stood there, 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:20.280 the people were leaving there out the door. They're outside 0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:23.040 five minutes talking with me. 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:27.479 Yeah, yeah, you sell yourself short. He's a tyler. Booker 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:30.200 is a student of the game. And I guarantee you 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:32.399 he knew Mickey Spagnoll. 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:32.680 Yeah. 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:39.159 It is funny though, because he was the story on 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:41.880 him when he was born, his daddy put a football 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:44.960 in his basinet when they came home from the hospital. No, 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:51.360 it's true. Yeah, in New Haven, Connecticut. And then at 0:17:51.400 --> 0:17:54.240 age five, he told his daddy that I'm going to 0:17:54.280 --> 0:17:55.120 play in the NFL. 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:56.440 He's from Connecticut. 0:17:56.560 --> 0:17:59.960 Yeah, he's from Connecticut, would thought. And then he also 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:03.919 so once he got into so in youth football, he 0:18:04.000 --> 0:18:06.320 played up so he'd be in fifth grade, he's playing 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:10.280 with seventh graders. And so wherever they lived, the football 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:13.840 team wasn't a great team whatever. And so he in 0:18:13.920 --> 0:18:17.520 middle school, he went to school an hour or so 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:20.560 away from school. I think it was an hour commute. 0:18:21.000 --> 0:18:23.720 Mama drove him to the other school. 0:18:23.800 --> 0:18:27.439 And so then when he got into high school, he 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:30.359 had a family that lived maybe an hour and a 0:18:30.400 --> 0:18:32.679 half away, but they had room at their house, and 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:34.680 so he went to high school at a different high 0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:38.240 school because he was a better opportunity football wise. This 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:43.040 is all, And he said his dad said at one point, 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:46.040 like Mom's goe okay, are we pushing him too much? No, 0:18:46.160 --> 0:18:48.600 he wants to do this. He's the one wanting to 0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:50.960 go to this. He's the one that wanted to go 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:53.480 to IMG Academy in Florida, and so that's what he 0:18:53.560 --> 0:18:56.720 did his senior year. He goes to IMG Academy. 0:18:57.160 --> 0:19:01.159 So think about it. I'm a big believer in right. 0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:04.520 And when you're capable of doing all the things Bill 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:07.360 did and then leave your family to go to IMG, 0:19:08.359 --> 0:19:10.160 somehow you get socialized. 0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:10.480 Right. 0:19:10.600 --> 0:19:13.960 You're on your own, you're meeting different people, you're out 0:19:14.000 --> 0:19:17.320 of your comfort zone. And he was and it showed. 0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:21.080 And then he said he walks into Alabama and he 0:19:21.200 --> 0:19:24.160 compared it to walking in here. He goes, you walk 0:19:24.200 --> 0:19:28.879 into Alabama, you feel greatness and you better get going right. 0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:31.960 And that facility must be the best in the contract. 0:19:32.040 --> 0:19:34.560 Well, but he was already familiar with the facility. Yeah, 0:19:34.600 --> 0:19:37.240 because take you back to when he was in I 0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:40.520 think he told me twenty twelve. He has an uncle 0:19:40.560 --> 0:19:42.520 who played in the NFL, play with the Steelers. He 0:19:42.600 --> 0:19:45.200 went to Michigan State. So we went to Michigan State's 0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:47.560 football camp at age twelve, and then the next year 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:49.919 he goes to Nick Saban's camp. And so for the 0:19:49.960 --> 0:19:53.760 next four years, he's going every summer to Nick Saban's 0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:57.760 summer camp at Alabama. From his freshman year through his 0:19:57.800 --> 0:20:00.439 senior year in high school whatever. So he was already 0:20:00.440 --> 0:20:03.679 familiar with the surroundings at Alabama when he walked in 0:20:03.720 --> 0:20:04.040 the door. 0:20:04.480 --> 0:20:07.960 I never thought that, you can't, you know, you think Connecticut, Yeah, 0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:11.440 and you just don't think that kind of legacy about 0:20:11.640 --> 0:20:14.200 no offense to people in Connecticut and how they played. 0:20:14.359 --> 0:20:17.160 And guess where he worked out getting ready for the draft? 0:20:17.240 --> 0:20:20.159 Right here across the street. He was in Frisco. 0:20:20.359 --> 0:20:23.440 He's a couple of different times. He spent a week 0:20:23.480 --> 0:20:26.840 here at one point, and then last summer he spent 0:20:26.880 --> 0:20:27.400 a week here. 0:20:29.040 --> 0:20:33.240 How could y'all not know he was coming here? 0:20:33.320 --> 0:20:33.520 You know? 0:20:33.640 --> 0:20:37.240 Now, all of a sudden background, all of a sudden, 0:20:37.280 --> 0:20:38.280 you realize. 0:20:37.920 --> 0:20:40.640 He was here long enough to be able to tell 0:20:40.640 --> 0:20:43.560 you where to go, where he went to eat barbecue. Okay, 0:20:44.160 --> 0:20:48.440 so yeah, it's a it's quite a story. And then 0:20:48.560 --> 0:20:50.879