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Speaker 1: This is mick Shots streaming live on dallascowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the official Dallas Cowboys have now Here are Bill Jones,

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Speaker 1: Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.

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Speaker 3: Well, well, well we are.

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Speaker 2: Post draft and this is Mickshots, and I can't wait

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Speaker 2: to hear what Everson and Mickey have to.

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Speaker 4: Say about what the Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: Did Thursday, Friday and Saturday. And we have football players.

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Speaker 2: I saw one football player walking out on the field

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Speaker 2: as I walked.

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Speaker 3: They're going to see out there, Bill for phase two

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Speaker 3: of the offseason workouts.

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Speaker 2: Right. I had an opportunity of a week or so

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Speaker 2: ago to talk with Brian Schottenheimer about all the draft process,

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Speaker 2: and he couldn't wait until two days after the draft,

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Speaker 2: where they can he can actually get his coaching staff

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Speaker 2: on the field with these guys a little bit.

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Speaker 5: So the draft choices are here, No, no, no, these

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Speaker 5: are the veteran guys.

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Speaker 4: We moved on.

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Speaker 2: The draft is in the rear view mirror. Now now

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Speaker 2: we got to talk, Yes we do, and do we start?

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Speaker 3: Sure?

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Speaker 4: Why not?

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Speaker 2: Do we start with the cornerback or what the cornerback

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Speaker 2: or the guy.

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Speaker 4: I'm gone in the first round. I've always said it.

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Speaker 5: I've always despected there's no idea what he's talking about.

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Speaker 4: Take a guy. Okay, here we go, and they're not

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Speaker 4: going to change him, are they.

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Speaker 2: No, he's a guard. He's he did start one game

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Speaker 2: at left tackle at Alabama due to an injury, but

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Speaker 2: the left tackle.

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Speaker 5: But they have to you have to answer to the people, man,

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Speaker 5: because you know you've been that's right walking against.

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Speaker 4: It and here we are, man, And it got in

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Speaker 4: a good one too.

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Speaker 3: Well. I guess here's the deal. They follwed their board right,

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Speaker 3: the board they filed, how they had the players rated,

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Speaker 3: you know, for a little bit, deliberated trading down. But

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Speaker 3: it was with Houston and they're at twenty five. You

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Speaker 3: can't do that, yeah, And they certainly weren't getting enough

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Speaker 3: to encourage them to do that. I mean, if you're

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Speaker 3: drafting a twenty five, you're taking a second round player.

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Speaker 2: So but really, the only way I guess Houston, if

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Speaker 2: I was just trying to do the math on it,

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Speaker 2: to move up that far, they would have had to

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Speaker 2: have been offering to make it work on the trade

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Speaker 2: value chart, they would have to be giving up their

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Speaker 2: second and their third right to move up or a

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Speaker 2: first next year.

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Speaker 3: And I and I saw where even a second and

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Speaker 3: a third the Cowboys were going to come back by

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Speaker 3: on the point chart minus fifteen.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well then it would be a second, a third

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Speaker 2: and some fit right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And they didn't want to give up all that.

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Speaker 3: So and they so, I'm gonna nobody else traded up.

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Speaker 2: So I'm going to assume if they were, they were

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Speaker 2: offering a future one.

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Speaker 3: Or yeah, I would think so to move.

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Speaker 2: Up thirteen spots.

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Speaker 3: So they drafted their board. That's where they had this

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Speaker 3: guy ranked. And uh, all I know is I'll see

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Speaker 3: if I have.

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Speaker 2: It on it.

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Speaker 5: You should you should that it should be like I

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Speaker 5: know so much, you should shouldn't be.

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Speaker 4: Well, all I know is this, I'm looking for more information.

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Speaker 2: You sound like you're convinces prad.

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Speaker 3: All I know is and I didn't watch any tape

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Speaker 3: of the guy beforehand or anything. But he comes in

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Speaker 3: with his family for the press conference, right, and I'm

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Speaker 3: I had to move over one seat right, so sisters, whatever, aunt,

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Speaker 3: and we were probably I don't know, five minutes in

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Speaker 2: Just like that?

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Speaker 3: And then later I wrote, I don't think I've ever

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Speaker 3: heard anybody handle himself so well at a press conference.

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Speaker 3: I said, now, if he can play, they hit the

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Speaker 3: ball out of the park with this guy. He was

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Speaker 3: just he was so impressive, handled himself with such class,

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Speaker 3: how he talked, what he said, what he said on

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Speaker 3: the conference call. And somebody asked him, can you play

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Speaker 3: you know, right guard? You were playing left guard. He goes,

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Speaker 3: I can play football, He goes, I can play either side.

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Speaker 3: They want me to play defensive end, I'm playing defense,

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Speaker 3: then linenbacker, full back, whatever they want. I want to

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Speaker 2: Well, and he said, I think he had twenty six

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Speaker 2: starts at left guard. He said there were games though,

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Speaker 2: where they would switch where he would play right guard too.

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Speaker 2: Even though he started the game at left guard, he

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Speaker 2: would flip over and play right guard at times. What

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Speaker 2: would be the purpose of that, I don't know. Maybe

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Speaker 2: it's opponent, Maybe the opponent's lining up a monster over

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Speaker 2: here on the left side of their defense, and they.

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Speaker 5: Want, this is where we're going to run the ball. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: that's right over there on that side.

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Speaker 2: Yeah maybe that something like that. But he said that's

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Speaker 2: what he said too, So he does have some experience, right.

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Speaker 5: And see, I've always you know, I argue about that, well,

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Speaker 5: he can only play left guard. It's like saying I

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Speaker 5: can only play left side, left corner. You play well,

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Speaker 5: you play you know as a dB. I'm going to

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Speaker 5: go in motion with that guy. I'm not the right

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Speaker 5: corner anymore. I'm a left corner because the receiven brought

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Speaker 5: me over there. If you have offensive lineman, you should

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Speaker 5: be able to play both sides. I just I never

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Speaker 5: thought that was a big deal, but obviously it is.

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Speaker 4: And I'm glad he can.

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Speaker 2: You know who I bet it's elated with this pick Nate.

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Speaker 3: And I was told this was the guy he wanted.

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Speaker 2: And Tyler Booker is going to hit it off big

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Speaker 2: time with natean for a thing.

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Speaker 3: He understood the history of the Cowboys. He knew about

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Speaker 3: Larry Allen, he knew about Zach.

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Speaker 2: Martin well, and I told him about Nate Newton.

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Speaker 3: And you told stuff.

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Speaker 2: I also told him about John Nylon blame Nye, and.

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Speaker 3: Her realized, this is only the third time they've taken

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Speaker 3: a guard in the first round, a true guarden, and

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Speaker 3: or what fourth time Nylon, Larry Allen, Zach Martin and

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Speaker 3: in the sixty sixth drive, So you have to go back.

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Speaker 3: So they're reasoning, and when I heard it put this way,

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Speaker 3: I think I understood. Number One, if you were going

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Speaker 3: at right guard, you don't just want a guy there

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Speaker 3: right you You want to try to replace the quality

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Speaker 3: of Zach Martin if it's possible, no doubt. Number Two,

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Speaker 3: the other thing they pointed out is the competition they

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Speaker 3: have to face in the NFC East with all those

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Speaker 3: big slobber knocker defensive tackles, you know, Philadelphia and the

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Speaker 5: Guys, which is what we are known to be. Right

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Speaker 5: That's that's when we're at our best as an organization.

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Speaker 5: We're strong right where we need to be strong right now.

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Speaker 3: And if you're strong, there chances are your running backs

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Speaker 3: your wide receivers might be able to And I went

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Speaker 3: back to the interview I did with Jason Garrett when

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Speaker 3: Zach Martin retired, and he and that was his his word.

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Speaker 3: He goes, if you're not strong upfront, doesn't matter how

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Speaker 3: good the quarterback, running back, wide receiver is, You'll never

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Speaker 4: Nope.

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Speaker 3: If the offensive line is not.

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Speaker 5: Strong, offensive line travels, well, yeah, I love it.

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Speaker 4: It's playoff football. It's road football.

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Speaker 3: And this is exactly what Who.

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Speaker 2: Are the top teams in the NFC last year? The

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Speaker 3: Who Detroit and Lions?

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Speaker 2: Look at their offensive linds.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, look at their running backs, both of them.

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Speaker 3: So uh And that's exactly what this is a fact

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Speaker 3: similar of what Jason did right his three of his

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Speaker 3: first four first round picks when he became head coach

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Speaker 3: or offensive line And now they've done the same thing,

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Speaker 3: you know.

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Speaker 2: And the other thing is, especially when you're replacing a

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Speaker 2: guy like Zach Martin, who was a first round draft

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Speaker 2: pick in future Hall of Famer, Okay, if you're looking

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Speaker 2: to really upgrade your offensive line, you look across the

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Speaker 2: board across the league, and sure there are fourth and

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Speaker 2: fifth round, sixth round offensive lineman who eventually becomes starters.

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Speaker 2: But as far as difference makers on the offensive line,

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Speaker 2: I don't care whether it's a tackle or a guard.

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Speaker 2: It's got to be a first or second round draft

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Speaker 4: Don't usually miss those, That's what you're saying.

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Speaker 3: No, they don't.

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Speaker 2: You can miss on them. You can miss on them,

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Speaker 2: is just very hard to find. They go faster, you know,

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Speaker 2: the really good ones. And in fact, in this draft,

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Speaker 2: the other guy that I think the Cowboys probably had

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Speaker 2: start his career in the first round, would have been

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Speaker 2: and helped me with the pronunciation on this, Well, no

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Speaker 2: one in this room can you with that, Jonah Savaia

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Speaker 2: and Nayah Okay. He would have been a second round guy. Well,

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Speaker 2: he would not have been available for the Cowboys in

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Speaker 2: the second round, as it turned out, because he went

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Speaker 2: number thirty seven to Miami. And so if you were

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Speaker 2: going to really upgrade the offensive line through the draft,

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Speaker 2: it was going to have to be in the first round.

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Speaker 2: With Tyler Booker in my opinion, and which Texas also

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Speaker 2: to a lot of people out there are concerned that

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Speaker 2: they didn't get a wide receiver in the draft, which

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Speaker 2: is and I but I look at this draft and

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Speaker 2: I don't think it was a very good year for

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Speaker 2: wide receiver prospects in this in this year's draft, where

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Speaker 2: if you were going to truly find a number two

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Speaker 2: wide receiver on this depth chart, you needed to do

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Speaker 2: it in the first round. You might be able to

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Speaker 2: find one in the second round, but it had to

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Speaker 2: be one of those three, whether it's Tep McMillan, Matthew Golden,

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Speaker 2: is Okay, if you don't get a wide receiver in

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Speaker 2: the draft, then what can you do outside the draft

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Speaker 2: and free agency? And we talked about this right last week,

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Speaker 2: and there are at least three receivers out there, and

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Speaker 2: Amari Cooper and Keenan Allen and Tyler.

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Speaker 4: Boyd, and I must say we better move fast. And

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Speaker 4: because that's right now, everyone knows what's what.

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Speaker 2: So that's the next Uh, that's the next one.

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Speaker 4: Either one of those three guys. I think we should

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Speaker 4: be moving.

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Speaker 3: Very and And the way to look at it is,

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Speaker 3: Then here's and here's the sleeper. Brian Schottenheimer thinks that

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Speaker 2: Well, they told you that with the contract they gave, right,

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Speaker 3: They think they can use him at wide receiver. And

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Speaker 2: We're going back to college at TCU, he was a

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Speaker 4: He is well to me when it comes to him.

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Speaker 5: It seemed as if anytime we had a play for him,

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Speaker 3: Not give him a chance to you have.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we would look.

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Speaker 5: For him and we couldn't see him because you got

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Speaker 2: Back to the Big Green Book scouting report on Tyler

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Speaker 2: Bucker great push, strong maller wide base, Stemy's pass rushers.

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Speaker 3: Here's another thing about him. It was Saturday, I don't

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Speaker 4: How did they know you?

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Speaker 3: He didn't. He had no idea.

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Speaker 2: You know what he did in the press some.

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Speaker 2: You know what, We had him before the press conference.

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Speaker 2: He walked over and said, Hey, I'm Tyler Booker. Whatever,

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Speaker 5: No, I saw his podcast. I talked to Spags this weekend.

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Speaker 2: Then there's hope said on tet McMillan.

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Speaker 4: I'll see. I wasn't aware of that, but during this interview,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he changed Michael's mind and they were WHOA, let's

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Speaker 2: It was when Booker said that his mission when he

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Speaker 5: And it was it was a build up the way

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Speaker 3: And it wasn't like a perfunctory handshake. He stood there,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you sell yourself short. He's a tyler. Booker

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It is funny though, because he was the story on

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Speaker 4: He's from Connecticut.

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Speaker 2: so he went to high school at a different high

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Speaker 2: he wants to do this. He's the one wanting to

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Speaker 3: So think about it. I'm a big believer in right.

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Speaker 3: And when you're capable of doing all the things Bill

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: You're on your own, you're meeting different people, you're out

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Speaker 3: And then he said he walks into Alabama and he

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Speaker 4: And that facility must be the best in the contract.

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Speaker 2: Well, but he was already familiar with the facility. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I never thought that, you can't, you know, you think Connecticut, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: And guess where he worked out getting ready for the draft?

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Speaker 3: Right here across the street. He was in Frisco.

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Speaker 2: He's a couple of different times. He spent a week

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Speaker 5: How could y'all not know he was coming here?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 5: Now, all of a sudden background, all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: He was here long enough to be able to tell

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Speaker 3: so yeah, it's a it's quite a story. And then

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: And then his talent, because the highlight stuff that Bill

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Speaker 3: And if you need a voice on the offensive line,

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Speaker 2: So and I think he's going to hit it off

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Speaker 2: great with Tyler Smith. Yeah, he's going to bring out

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Speaker 3: And I think the other part is they're hoping to

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Speaker 4: That's how much you got. Is that that's going to

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Speaker 5: I hope that becomes a very fruitful relationship between those two.

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Speaker 2: And there's the other part. He just turned twenty one

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Oh he's got to get with this guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, so so Booker is three years younger

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Speaker 4: Huh yeah.

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Speaker 2: And Tyler Smith and Tyler Smith is twenty four, Tyler

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Speaker 2: Smith is younger. No, Tyler Smith is two months older

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Speaker 3: So so now you got your offensive line. Now you

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Speaker 2: The other thing on the offensive line is I like

444
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Speaker 2: the depth that they have on the offensive line. Now, Okay,

445
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Speaker 2: you got your guys, and we're assuming we.

446
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Speaker 4: Did some good work last year.

447
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Speaker 2: We still right with brock Hoffman and then with TJ.

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Speaker 2: Bass and even you know, they bring in Sadiq Charles

449
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450
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Speaker 2: years ago, didn't play last year, but you got Jarring

451
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Speaker 2: depth awesome. Richards is another guy, and so there is

452
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Speaker 2: really good competition of the offensive line. I mean, they

453
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Speaker 2: literally didn't even have to go sign any rookie free

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Speaker 2: agents on the offensive line, because even before drafting Tyler Booker,

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Speaker 2: they had fifteen offensive linemen on the roster that are

456
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Speaker 2: guys with experience in the league. And that's how many

457
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Speaker 2: you take to training camp is fifteen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and they did they did good work last year.

459
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Speaker 4: They did good work last year. So with with Dowdell,

460
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Speaker 4: good word.

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Speaker 2: week after the draft. Well, I'm out here today.

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Speaker 3: All I remember is all the times when they would

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Speaker 3: the veterans would be here working out and they'd all

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Speaker 3: be out there watching practice with the rookies, uh, taking part.

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Speaker 3: And they'll be here this weekend, by the way.

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Speaker 2: And so it is this weekend, yes, okay, all right.

530
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Speaker 2: So at the we we talked about the first round.

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Speaker 2: We're going to take it in order go to the

532
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Speaker 2: second round?

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Speaker 5: Sure?

534
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Speaker 4: Or why not?

535
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Speaker 2: There's one thing about many of these draft picks. You

536
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Speaker 2: don't need to buy a vow.

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Speaker 3: I already used that during the when they got to

538
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Speaker 3: the the last pick. But as raku uh huh.

539
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 2: Thought of it as a raku. It's actually easy to

540
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Speaker 2: say what it is once you figure out that they

541
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Speaker 2: don't pay attention to the spelling.

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Speaker 4: Intimidated by.

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Speaker 5: It always makes sense after someone announced it, pronounces it.

544
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Speaker 3: I watched him I watched him play a whole game,

545
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Speaker 3: and I didn't know you know who he was, right?

546
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Speaker 3: Missouri played Boston College early in the season.

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Speaker 2: Number six.

548
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Speaker 4: Didn't that two times?

549
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Speaker 3: I just don't know. It wasn't paying attention. They had

550
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 3: trouble blocking somebody.

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Speaker 2: I remember that.

552
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 3: Well, it ended up being him.

553
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 2: Was he coming off the Was he coming off the

554
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Speaker 2: left side of the Boston College defense against the first

555
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 2: round draft pick armand Mimbo? He was coming off both sides, okay,

556
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 2: and Nambo was having a hard time, yes, blocking him. Well,

557
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 2: that says a lot because Mimbo is the seventh pick

558
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 2: of the draft by the Jets and.

559
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Speaker 3: This guy was the acc player player of the year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw that sixteen and a half sacks last year.

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Speaker 3: You get him in the second round. Was his dimensions

562
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Speaker 3: six four no six two two forty eight. And he

563
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Speaker 3: is not shy playing the run long arms, which is

564
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Speaker 3: which is a gift Bill tell.

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Speaker 2: You about the Yeah, I got to go find him here.

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Speaker 2: He just threw me off there for a second. Ez

567
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Speaker 2: arakus iraku, Where is he? He's in here? There's so

568
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Speaker 2: many of them that you let me find him?

569
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Speaker 4: Keep talking?

570
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Speaker 2: Well, I go find him here. I need a better system.

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Speaker 2: Find him up.

572
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Speaker 4: If you're going to only be six two, then you

573
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Speaker 4: better have some long yep.

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Speaker 3: But also, if I remember right, team captain, they've got more.

575
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Speaker 2: Thirty four inch arms six two and a half two

576
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Speaker 2: hundred and forty eight pounds thirty four inch arms, which

577
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Speaker 2: is great. He here's the key number when it comes

578
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Speaker 2: to edge rushers. And one thing about this whole process,

579
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Speaker 2: going back to the combine the pro days, it was

580
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Speaker 2: clear that agents told their clients their edge rushers, don't

581
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Speaker 2: do the cony, don't let the teams get a number

582
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Speaker 2: for you, because under seven is a great cone drill, okay,

583
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Speaker 2: and you just let him use the tape instead of

584
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Speaker 2: your measurables whatever. Well, as Aroku did a cone drill

585
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Speaker 2: and his was six point nine four, which supposed to

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Speaker 2: do it. No, well, his agent didn't tell me. His

587
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Speaker 2: agent said go ahead and do it, and he probably

588
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Speaker 2: was well trained for it, because that's what happens a

589
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Speaker 2: lot of times. If you don't train for that specific drill,

590
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Speaker 2: then you may come up with a seven point four

591
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Speaker 2: to oh and may drop you around in the draft.

592
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Speaker 2: So anyway, his was a six ninety four, which is

593
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Speaker 2: great to DeMarcus Ware was a six eighty nine. If

594
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Speaker 2: you look across the board in the past, and usually

595
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Speaker 2: if you're under seven, then that translates to bend and

596
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Speaker 2: being able to get to the quarter. But it shows

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Speaker 2: on tape what he can do that just confirms it.

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Speaker 2: For scouts. He was a Ted Hendricks Award winner as

599
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Speaker 2: the top defensive end in the country. As you mentioned,

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Speaker 2: he is under in terms of his height six two

601
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Speaker 2: and a half two hundred and forty eight pounds, But

602
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Speaker 2: I don't think that the Cowboys would view that as

603
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Speaker 2: a negative of what what he's going to be used

604
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Speaker 2: initially is as a sub package pass rusher, and so.

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Speaker 5: You wouldn't look at him as a wholesale change replacement

606
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Speaker 5: for Demarcts.

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Speaker 2: I think it'll be a rotation and eventually I'm saying,

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Speaker 2: I mean as a rookie.

609
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Speaker 4: When you're talking about style at all, they don't have

610
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Speaker 4: the same style at all.

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Speaker 3: Nielan may be closer to Marcus Lawrence than this guy.

612
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Speaker 3: And then you got Sam Williams coming back. You got

613
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Speaker 3: a one year deal on Dante Fowler junior, so and

614
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Speaker 3: you add this guy to the mix. So at least

615
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Speaker 3: you've got some depth.

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Speaker 2: Now his but his size. I'm going to look up

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Speaker 2: to Marcus Lawrence here. In fact, I've got written by

618
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Speaker 2: out next to him to Marcus Lawrence, and so that

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Speaker 2: he's not a lot different. What I'm saying is you

620
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Speaker 2: can't expect as a rookie for anyone to come in,

621
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Speaker 2: even as a second round draft pick, to be performing

622
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Speaker 2: at the same level that DeMarcus Lawrence was when he

623
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Speaker 2: was going to Pro Bowls. And so he's worked in

624
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Speaker 2: as an interruption.

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Speaker 5: Was he had the same style as well? I mean yes,

626
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Speaker 5: and in the run at the edge as well, AT's

627
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Speaker 5: come around the end. Yeah, he might be able to

628
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Speaker 5: come around the end better than DeMarcus.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, that's right.

630
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Speaker 4: He enjoyed here.

631
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Speaker 5: If he and Michael, let's say they start vibing together,

632
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Speaker 5: that would be a nice little booking.

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Speaker 2: Well, and then you've also got Sam Williams and Dante

634
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Speaker 2: Fowler you know, in that whole mix, right, And so

635
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Speaker 2: that's a lot of energy. Yeah, And but both of

636
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 2: those guys are on the last year. There are in

637
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Speaker 2: one year deals, you know, And so now you've got

638
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Speaker 2: a guy who's twenty one years old. He won't he'll

639
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Speaker 2: turn twenty two in September, young guy who it was

640
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Speaker 2: a I think it was a even though they did

641
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Speaker 2: work in free agency to sign a Peyton Turner and

642
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Speaker 2: a Dante Fowler who's coming off a ten sacks season,

643
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Speaker 2: they they needed this was a position of This is

644
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Speaker 2: why I was so big on mike L Williams who

645
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Speaker 2: went to San Francisco to pick before Dallas, because you

646
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Speaker 2: needed to find someone who can take that d lost

647
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Speaker 2: spot on the defensive line, and this as Iraku is

648
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Speaker 2: a guy. We even were talking about it on leading

649
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Speaker 2: up to the second round on Friday because as Iraku

650
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Speaker 2: was still there. Do you do what you did in

651
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Speaker 2: twenty fourteen, which was Will mcclay's draft, first draft, when

652
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Speaker 2: you took Zach Martin in the first round, Well, you

653
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Speaker 2: took Tyler Booker in the first round. We're looking Asiraku

654
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Speaker 2: would be the pick for the Cowboys if with the

655
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Speaker 2: first pick of the second round. So do you do

656
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Speaker 2: what you did in twenty fourteen and package your third

657
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Speaker 2: with your second and move up? And they didn't have

658
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Speaker 2: to do that. He was still there at forty four.

659
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Speaker 3: Form, although the temptation at the time up with the

660
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Speaker 3: second round, if you moved up with Junkins.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, with the running backs, and it would have been

662
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Speaker 2: interesting if the running backs were there and as Iraku

663
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 2: what they would have done, especially considering the depth of

664
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 2: the running back class, although clearly they didn't. I mean

665
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 2: they had. They had two chances to draft Caleb Johnson

666
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 2: from Iowa. Obviously they didn't feel the same way I

667
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 2: did about him.

668
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 3: Injury really, yes, Okay, he's got he had a knee, okay,

669
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 3: and he's got a toad that's either gotta be fixed.

670
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 2: Or I didn't know that eventually has to be. Okay,

671
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 2: that's why that would be the reason.

672
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 3: That's why.

673
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 2: Well, there's a lot of them that we don't but

674
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 2: you found that after the draft before Okay, why didn't

675
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 2: you let me know in my big green Well we

676
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 2: did for the draft.

677
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 4: You have to consult with all of your sources, man,

678
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 4: that's you.

679
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 3: Bill got found out midweek.

680
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 2: So thanks a lot.

681
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 3: If he fell, that was gonna be the reason he

682
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 3: felt and.

683
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 2: He went third round to Pittsburgh, which is interesting because

684
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 2: I thought his running running style at Iowa, he has

685
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 2: patience as he gets to the hole.

686
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 3: And oh no, not not him. I got it confused

687
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 3: with there's a will, there's a way cornerback Will Johnson,

688
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 3: Will Johnson. Sorry, sorry, Caleb Johnson, thought you Will Johnson.

689
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 2: No, Caleb Johnson, the running back. So but I was

690
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 2: going to say he reminded me of ave On Bell,

691
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 2: the way he would pause before any and where do

692
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 2: you go? He went to Pittsburgh.

693
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

694
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 5: I think if you have an offense, you can only

695
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,399
Speaker 5: pause if the offensive line is doing the job.

696
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 4: You can't pause when the offensive line was getting.

697
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 2: I feel so much better. I was downing my Big

698
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 2: Green Hope book.

699
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 4: He was gonna his entire system.

700
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 3: He was going to question everything about life, Wills Will.

701
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 2: Okay, so we like Azaraku and now.

702
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 3: My dude, the guy I turned you onto, Yes.

703
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 2: Okay, First pronounce his name, Mickey Revel. I thought it

704
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:19,720
Speaker 2: was Savone, Savon Savona Again, you got what savone? H Okay,

705
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 2: tell me what how you pronounce it?

706
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 3: Just say it, say the whole name, Savone Revel.

707
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 2: There you go, it's revel, It's revelvel. Uh huh. That

708
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 2: sounds sexy, Savone revel and that kind of flows what

709
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 2: you learned that way.

710
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 4: It sounds poetic, Uh huh.

711
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 2: Savone Revel? Whose scouts call the condor because.

712
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 3: Of his arms, arm lands, and you have eighty inch

713
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 3: wingspan actually six ft two in the junior. I thought

714
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 3: he's a junior too.

715
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 4: He's a junior. Yeah, he is a junior. You know what,

716
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 4: your wingspan is pretty good? Yeah, yeah, minds pretty good.

717
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 4: It could have been, you know, one of the best

718
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 4: in the league. Yeah, I was. That's what we do. No,

719
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 4: I think, Well, I know my arms, I'm about thirty

720
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 4: four inches.

721
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, but your wingspan, well you know that chest here.

722
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:15,479
Speaker 4: Going.

723
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 2: So he eighty inch wing span for a cornerback and

724
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,240
Speaker 2: he's six to one and seven eights inch inches tall.

725
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 4: Two Richard Sherman type of look right and let me

726
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 4: he's got arms.

727
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, rich Now he'll he'll start training camp on pop.

728
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 3: He's still recovering from his torn a c L and

729
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 3: he did have some meniscus work done also, so that

730
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 3: kind of delays the recovery from the ACL. But they

731
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 3: know all they need to know about him, as we

732
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 3: talked about with doctor Cooper doing the surgery.

733
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 4: So I think he'll fit in here.

734
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 5: Well, you know, when you start looking at his style

735
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 5: comparing it to how we are at our best as

736
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 5: a second you know, when Diggs.

737
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 4: Is playing well, when brand is playing well, we are a.

738
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 5: Ball hawking secondary. You know, when the ball is in

739
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 5: the air, we're not looking at the receiver.

740
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 3: That's the way that guy.

741
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 2: Best got to get them all healthy at the same time.

742
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 2: That's the problem is not healthy. Now this one comes

743
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 2: in and he's Nate Meggar.

744
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 3: The talent, you know, overrides when he'll eventually be there,

745
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 3: and he's got to be a worker. You know, we

746
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 3: talked about his story last week and how he I

747
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 3: don't know how this happens in high school anymore, that

748
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 3: you come out and you don't have grades. Right, that's

749
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 3: everybody's eligible for college, right, especially if you get an NIO.

750
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 4: Right.

751
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 3: But anyway, he went to junior college in North Carolina.

752
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 3: H was working at Amazon in the warehouse and after

753
00:38:56,080 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 3: I guess it was his second year at JUCO, East

754
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 3: Carolina had a it was their equivalent of a pro

755
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 3: date to bring guys into workout. Right, he finished the midnight.

756
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 4: It was it was the free outcome all comers try

757
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 4: out for.

758
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 3: A scholar that used to have Yeah, basically like that.

759
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 3: And and and he gets in the car after he

760
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 3: finished at midnight, he and his dad drove to East

761
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:30,720
Speaker 3: Carolina for a workout, hoping to get a scholarship. That's

762
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 3: how motivated he was. And he ends up going there

763
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 3: and has a great junior year. Uh and then unfortunately

764
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 3: the third game is senior year, he tears his acl.

765
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 3: He's going to be a first round pick, just the

766
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 3: way he played off his junior year. Uh. So, again,

767
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 3: you're projecting from what you saw. But you also saw

768
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 3: some work ethic and some dedication to playing football.

769
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 5: And that's that's what you When you've come so far,

770
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 5: especially the way he has, the journey seems longer, you know,

771
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 5: when you have to work at Amazon and you go

772
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 5: through all of the journey seems a lot longer. Sometimes

773
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 5: guys they peak out, you know, that journeys it was

774
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 5: so much that they can't make that next step, you know,

775
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 5: because of other things, because of surgery and because you know,

776
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 5: because of the knee surgery and all of that kind

777
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 5: of stuff. With guys like him, you don't want that

778
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 5: to be your last part of your story. You know,

779
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 5: you don't want that to be the end of you

780
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,280
Speaker 5: don't want you don't want that to be the highlight.

781
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,879
Speaker 5: I'm hoping that he can come in here and still

782
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 5: have momentum because it is you know, I come from

783
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 5: that undrafted crawd. You got to go through a lot,

784
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 5: You got to go through a lot of people to

785
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 5: get to where you want to be, and you got

786
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,280
Speaker 5: to be strong in that regard. I hope he stays

787
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 5: the course because he's already done some amazing things to

788
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 5: get where he is now.

789
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 4: It's always tough of the journey.

790
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, sometimes you're satisfied with that, or sometimes circumstances limit

791
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 5: you to that. I'm hoping that his story continues, especially

792
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 5: on the same path that's.

793
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 4: Going right now.

794
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,919
Speaker 3: So that helps out the depth at cornerback, right.

795
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 2: And so okay, so how satisfied are you right now

796
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 2: with what you have at cornerback? Considering that we'll see

797
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 2: where Revel is with his recovery from the ACL and

798
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 2: his availability at the start of the season. We know

799
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 2: that Trayvon Diggs is going to probably be on Puff

800
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 2: to start training camp, and he could be into the

801
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 2: season before he's eligible or able to play right, So

802
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 2: that leaves you you got Duran Bland, You've got kaye

803
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:48,919
Speaker 2: Elam who you traded for from Buffalo, a former first

804
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 2: round draft pick who last year with Buffalo had played

805
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 2: in thirteen games, four starts, had two hundred and three

806
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 2: hundred and five snaps Buffalo last year. Kayln Carson, who

807
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 2: last year started five games as a rookie, and Josh

808
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 2: Butler's coming off in acl Andrew Booth you saw him

809
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:18,959
Speaker 2: last year. Yeah, those are your corners, and come on Hall,

810
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 2: who flashed a little bit in camp.

811
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 3: The key to all that is Kayln Carson, because he

812
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 3: flashed in training camp. He played well, played well the

813
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 3: first couple of games when he got forced to start.

814
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 2: What was the fifth Okay, let me let me count

815
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 2: it up here. Okay, let's take Revel and Digs off

816
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 2: the board right now and say they're not going to

817
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 2: Let's just say they're not going to be ready at

818
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 2: the start of the season. So guys that you would

819
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 2: be comfortable with being out on the field for the

820
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 2: first game of the season are Bland, I'm on this roster.

821
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 2: Bland and Elam and Carson. That's three, and then you've

822
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 2: got Booth. These are just corner the cornerbacks. I'm talking cornerbacks.

823
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 2: And then you get Common Hall and come on, Hall

824
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 2: and Troy Pride are also on the.

825
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 4: Roster, you're gonna need three cornerbacks.

826
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 2: So my question is, do you need to go get

827
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 2: a cornerback right now? Considering all that, if if a

828
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 2: veteran shows up, like Stephan Gilmore showed up last.

829
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,479
Speaker 3: Week, yeah, right, that caused a fear.

830
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 4: He came, he said up.

831
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 3: I don't know if he did take it a tour or.

832
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 2: What, but the word was it was not there for

833
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 2: a visit, I mean for a team visit, but he

834
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 2: was there for some reason. He was in the building.

835
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 2: But aside from all, Stephan Gilmore at thirty five years old,

836
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 2: he would I would feel much better about what the

837
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 2: Cowboys have at cornerback going into this season. If Gilmour

838
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 2: is on this Yeah.

839
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 4: That's why.

840
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 2: That's why I said, I got Gilmore and I got Cooper,

841
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 2: let's get them.

842
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 3: Kaylin Carson has to come through for him now, and.

843
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 2: That's great, and Caylen Carson might wind up being the

844
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 2: stry and you got Gilmour as a fourth cornerback or whatever.

845
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 3: He got hurt and then he lost his confidence and

846
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 3: he never played the same. So they needed him to

847
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 3: get back to where he was last year. And if

848
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 3: if as it turns out, if revel is ready to

849
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 3: go for the start of the season. You've got a

850
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 3: combination that real young, real young legs.

851
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 5: See I understand, hold up well through the surgery, and

852
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 5: he may come back right ready for the season.

853
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 3: Elam is here. It's a body I don't know how

854
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 3: much I trust it just because of his history at Buffalo.

855
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 3: Second round pick that never no first round pick, yes,

856
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 3: first round pick that never really played to a first

857
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 3: lound level. You know they were doing in the draft

858
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 3: the guys they added for teams, and then it said

859
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 3: guys they lost, and Buffalo they listed him as lost.

860
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 3: I said, no, he did. They didn't lose him. They

861
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,280
Speaker 3: got him out of the building.

862
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 2: Well but one thing on him, Okay, he was a

863
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 2: first round pick and that same draft, Christian Benford was

864
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 2: a sixth round pick and he basically I guess beat

865
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 2: him out for the job, right, so he didn't have

866
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 2: the opportunity to do there whatever.

867
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 4: And so.

868
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 3: This is remember the old TV show This is Your Life. Yeah,

869
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 3: this is his opportunity. Right, He's going to have a

870
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 3: chance to compete at the cornerback spot.

871
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 2: Right. But I having said all that, I think they

872
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 2: need to go get a veteran guy, whether it's Gilmour

873
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 2: or there's there's a half dozen other guys out there.

874
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 4: What just what do young dbs do these days to

875
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 4: get ready for the pros? What do they do?

876
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 2: What do you mean?

877
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 4: I don't know what? You got wide receivers? They always

878
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 4: go to a camp.

879
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 5: They got a quarterback with them, and they're out there

880
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 5: in Phoenix or whatever, and they're out there getting ready.

881
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 2: They've been doing it. They were nine years old with

882
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 2: trainers and stuff.

883
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 4: What does the dB do?

884
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 5: I mean, if I'm a young dB, if I'm if

885
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 5: I'm causing, how do I get better?

886
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 9: You know?

887
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 3: What did you do?

888
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 5: I went out there trying to cover somebody. I was

889
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 5: trying to find that. I was trying to find the

890
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 5: wide receiver wherever I could find one. I'd go to Grambling,

891
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 5: I'd go cover some guys. I couldn't wait to get

892
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 5: the training camp. When we got there, I worked my

893
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 5: ass off in regards to to, you know, have my

894
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 5: body ready to go. I wasn't a lift guy, but man,

895
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 5: I was in shape. But I didn't have any problems

896
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 5: trying to cover somebody. This guy, you know, Butler, Let's

897
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 5: say a guy like Butler, let's say, a guy like

898
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 5: from from a Buffalo.

899
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:35,720
Speaker 2: This guy, what's his cayer?

900
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 4: What's he gonna do to get better?

901
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 2: You know now what Josh Butler did to get better?

902
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 2: What he do He worked out with his dog. He

903
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 2: had two dogs or maybe one dog, right, he still

904
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 2: got and if you want to get better, he did

905
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,879
Speaker 2: the best TikTok videos and he got it worked for him.

906
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 4: If you want to get better, a's a cornerback, you

907
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 4: got a cover wide receivers.

908
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,919
Speaker 2: Well, what's faster? Josh Butler will tell you what's fast

909
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 2: strether than a dog?

910
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, the dog is fast. The dog can't catch, But.

911
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 2: You haven't seen the TikTok videos that dog and catch.

912
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 2: Let me tell you that dog and catch might be

913
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 2: a that's right, he's going.

914
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 4: Speak, he's getting his he's tracking the ball by it.

915
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 2: I wish we had Josh Butler sitting here having a congress.

916
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 5: That would that would be We need to do that

917
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 5: because I want to know what young DB's do now

918
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 5: to get better. We already know what wide receivers do

919
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,879
Speaker 5: to get better with their quarterbacks and all that. Young

920
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 5: DB's need to have some type of outlet to where

921
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 5: I can get better covering other wide receivers.

922
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 2: We need to do that. We need to get Josh

923
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 2: Butler in here.

924
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 3: Well, we can work on it. We need to start

925
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 3: our own cornerback.

926
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, I gotta know, because you know, if I'm if

927
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 5: I just got cut from Buffalo and I come to

928
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 5: Dallas and now don't do well in the off season,

929
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 5: I gotta change something.

930
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 4: I gotta change something. I have to. I have to

931
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 4: do something to elevate myself to that level, because right

932
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 4: now I'm here, how do I get to hear? I'm

933
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 4: just you know, starting today.

934
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Speaker 3: You better come out here and bea was every day, right,

935
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Speaker 3: every day gotta catch.

936
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Speaker 2: Okay, we talk running, which, by the.

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Speaker 3: Way, before you go to break, I gotta say this.

938
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Speaker 3: We talk all the time about quarterbacks, Like it doesn't

939
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Speaker 3: matter what level you're at, junior, high, high school, college,

940
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Speaker 3: if you don't have a quarterback, you can't be effective. Right.

941
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 3: Guess what was going on here on Saturday the girls

942
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 3: high school flag? Right? I guess what if you didn't

943
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 3: have a quarterback watching what's right out the window? Right?

944
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 3: I talked to him and I said, I want to

945
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Speaker 3: have a quarterback. You can't win at this level either.

946
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Speaker 4: It doesn't matter.

947
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 3: Although I did see a ball tipped and some girl

948
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 3: just went diving for the tip for a touchdown.

949
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 4: You can catch them out there. Yeah, there were ruthless.

950
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 2: Ruthless tell you that that seven on the flag football girls,

951
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 2: flag football. That's the fastest growing sport in the nation.

952
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know what, I know that also itching

953
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Speaker 3: to get out there and this and this is just

954
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Speaker 3: just gotta be female. Right. When we played in near

955
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Speaker 3: Murals and it was flag football, you grab the flag

956
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Speaker 3: and throw it down in the stain. They'd grab the

957
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Speaker 3: football and go back and give it to girls and

958
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Speaker 3: put it back.

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Speaker 4: all right, you.

961
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Speaker 2: and so there's we talk about wide receivers that are

1009
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Speaker 2: available out there as free agents. She got cornerbacks as well,

1010
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Speaker 2: and you're checking to see who gets cut this week

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00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,320
Speaker 2: of what moves were made during the draft, and veteran

1012
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 2: guys are going to become available.

1013
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 3: I was going to say, how about quarterbacks, but not

1014
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 3: too many quarterbacks too?

1015
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 2: Well, what happened here before Andy Dalton? When when Cincinnati

1016
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 2: drafted Joe Burrow, Andy Dalton got cut within a few

1017
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 2: days he was signed by the Cowboys.

1018
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 4: And so you're going to cut somebody for uh, there's

1019
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 4: gonna be some obviously movement.

1020
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:04,399
Speaker 2: With Cleveland needs to cut one.

1021
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 4: I should have cut one, drafted him.

1022
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 2: This has got five.

1023
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 3: This is another show. But what's wrong with our world?

1024
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 2: Jesus?

1025
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 3: Social media is still going to be the death of

1026
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 3: our society.

1027
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 4: It's no doubt about it.

1028
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 2: How about the Falcons defensive coordinator his son?

1029
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 3: That's what I mean, God Almighty, the.

1030
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 2: Something I'm debating. I'm debating whether to reveal this on

1031
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 2: I think the statute of limitations is over. And what

1032
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 2: the heck is my roommate who did it?

1033
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 4: Not me?

1034
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 3: I did the same when we were in college.

1035
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:05,359
Speaker 2: Uh, nineteen seventy nine, Billy Simms and Charles White were

1036
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 2: up for the Heisman Trophy that year, and back then

1037
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 2: they didn't have a Heisman Trophy ceremony on a Saturday night.

1038
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 2: It was just it was just like announced in a

1039
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 2: press release on a Tuesday afternoon sometime. So that Tuesday,

1040
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 2: my roommate, not me, finds the phone number for the

1041
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 2: USC Athletic Department office, a football office, and he calls USC.

1042
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:37,720
Speaker 2: It says, this is Dick Smith with the Downtown Athletic

1043
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 2: Club in New York, and I'm just calling to inform

1044
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 2: you that Charles White did not win the Heisman Trophy.

1045
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,879
Speaker 2: He went to Billy Simms, and of course Charles White

1046
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 2: wound up witting it. But yeah, that's another story. You

1047
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 2: know what, in college, I had a roommate. We should

1048
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,760
Speaker 2: we should have a segment by college roommate stories.

1049
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 3: So anyway, we did it, but I could run.

1050
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 4: Yeah we didn't.

1051
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 2: We didn't record it, okay, and we didn't broadcast it

1052
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:13,760
Speaker 2: on kg OU radio.

1053
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 4: Did they believe it?

1054
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1055
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I don't know what. There wasn't response,

1056
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 4: like you know, my god.

1057
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't remember that part of it. There's not

1058
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 2: much I do remember.

1059
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:25,320
Speaker 4: From college.

1060
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:26,800
Speaker 2: But I do remember that.

1061
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 3: So I thought my college roommate was punking me when

1062
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 3: the Cowboys were signing herschel Walker. We're in training camp, right,

1063
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 3: And I put a call into herschel He's in New

1064
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 3: Jersey wherever, and I had to write a long story

1065
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 3: and about two in the morning, right, so no one

1066
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 3: in the morning since three o'clock East Coast time. Hi,

1067
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:59,839
Speaker 3: this is herschel Walker. I'm going, no f ing way,

1068
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 3: just like that right to myself, And I said, my

1069
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 3: college roommate worked in Atlanta, he knew herschel. He had

1070
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 3: the greatest imitation of his voice, right, And I'm going, okay,

1071
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 3: he's punking me, right, And I asked herschel like two

1072
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 3: or three just benign questions to feel it out. And

1073
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 3: then I realized, oh no, this is he called me back.

1074
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:29,720
Speaker 4: Come on man, Oh my goodness.

1075
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 2: All right, Jayden Blue running back. Well, we got a

1076
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 2: couple only three minutes left of this show.

1077
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:37,879
Speaker 4: Okay, five?

1078
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:39,879
Speaker 2: I made that speed man.

1079
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 4: I like it, and I'm only going on what I hear.

1080
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 3: And I when I went to the pro day and

1081
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 3: watched him run routes for yours, he was he was

1082
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 3: amazing and you know, when you see somebody run, you

1083
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 3: can tell if they're fast without a stop watch. This

1084
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,439
Speaker 3: guy is fast. Asked he could move.

1085
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 4: Could you imagine if we get him the ball anywhere

1086
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 4: in space?

1087
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 3: He interpined. At the same time, on the field, man,

1088
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 3: think about it.

1089
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:13,840
Speaker 5: I think I'm hoping he could. He'd be versatile enough to,

1090
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 5: you know, run some routes in the slot. That would

1091
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 5: be really good.

1092
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 2: Forty two catches and six touchdowns last year as a receiver,

1093
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 2: which he catch.

1094
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 3: Exploded for that long touchdown. Was it a playoff game

1095
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 3: for UT? I can't remember which game it was, but he.

1096
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 2: Now the one thing that the UT people will say, Yes, Dumbles.

1097
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 3: Hang under the ball.

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00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, we can work on that. Because here's my thing.

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00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 5: If he's able to have a little bit of wiggle

1100
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 5: in him, you know, I get it. Running backs can

1101
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 5: catch passes out of the backfield, but if you can

1102
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 5: catch it from the slot, then that would eliminate the

1103
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 5: need for, you know, an extra wide receiver. I mean,

1104
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 5: we're gonna get a wide receiver anyway, but he could

1105
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 5: make us more versatile in some packages.

1106
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 4: If he's able to do something in the slot, that'd

1107
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 4: be greatly He can run.

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00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 3: That's all I know. In five nine he went to

1109
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 3: UT five.

1110
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 2: So that and that's that's your that's the size of

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00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 2: a third down back. And you got Javonte Williams, and

1112
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 2: then you got Miles Sanders, and you got Deucepawn and

1113
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 2: you've got another one that you drafted in the seventh round,

1114
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 2: filled MafA from Clemson. So and he was pretty good.

1115
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 3: I think he had maybe some injury or something that

1116
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 3: slowed him down his last year, but his junior I think.

1117
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not relying on you to tell me

1118
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 2: about anybody.

1119
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 4: So offensive lineman. This guy from Oregon.

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00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 2: Talk to him, Johnny Cornelius. Yes, you know, he's a

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00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 2: It's a really great story. He's from Harlem, grew up

1122
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 2: in Harlem and wound up at Oregon. And you know

1123
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 2: what I see in him on the other side, Yeah,

1124
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 2: but what what I see in him? You know, Clayton

1125
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 2: Adams offensive line coach, was in Arizona. He reminds me,

1126
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 2: although I don't know that his dimensions are exactly the

1127
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 2: same or his athleticism, but his makeup reminds me of

1128
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 2: Kelvin Beacham, who has been playing in this league for

1129
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 2: fourteen years. He is about as he is from about

1130
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 2: as far away as you can get from Harlem. He's

1131
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 2: from Mahea, Texas. But Kelvin Kelvin Beacham went to SMU

1132
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 2: and very smart guy Johnny Cornelius is the same way.

1133
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 2: They just and so I I would love to talk

1134
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 2: with Clayton Adams to say, hey, do you see similarity?

1135
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 2: Are they the same?

1136
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 3: Well, he should have an inside look because the Cowboys

1137
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 3: wide receiver coach, Junior Adams, was at Oregon, so he

1138
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 3: knows this guy right. As a matter of fact, when

1139
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 3: they did the interview, it was like I was confused

1140
00:59:55,200 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 3: the secret audio and they Johnny six five three.

1141
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 2: Tenne but he can play. He played he started at

1142
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 2: right tackle, but he can play inside or at tackle.

1143
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 3: So they were calling him uncle Junior, and I'm going,

1144
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 3: what what are you guys talking about?

1145
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 4: Uncle?

1146
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 3: They're not really And then it was like he was

1147
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 3: the wide receiver coach at Oregon and so Junior Adams,

1148
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 3: and they got Clayton Adams, and so yeah, they had

1149
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,439
Speaker 3: some inside knowledge on them, and evidently they're gonna try.

1150
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 3: And there was a wide receiver from Oregon holding undrafted

1151
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 3: free agent and they're planning on signing and so obviously

1152
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 3: Junior Adams was his position coach, so they should know

1153
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 3: something about him.

1154
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 4: And the Oregon always had a good passing games.

1155
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, to see, and this is one of the benefits

1156
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 3: of bringing some of these college guys in uh to

1157
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 3: on your staff because they've recruited like Connor Riley. I'm

1158
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 3: trying to remember what player Case State played against that

1159
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 3: they ended up drafting, but he saw them they had

1160
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 3: to play against him, uh and had inside knowledge.

1161
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 2: Of Texas would be one team they played against with

1162
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 2: Jaden Blue. Yeah.

1163
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, so uh, you know, and you get a different field.

1164
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 3: But Connor Riley's been coaching offensive lineman, you know, forever

1165
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 3: and to the point where he ended up being the

1166
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 3: k State offensive coordinator as an offensive line coach. Same

1167
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:34,959
Speaker 3: thing with Clayton Adams. Now, so well, we'll see about

1168
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 3: these some little bit of diversity.

1169
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 5: We'll see about this fumblas that in the camp and

1170
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 5: pre season.

1171
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 4: We'll know.

1172
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 2: Yes, Okay, let's hear it, producer Supreme.

1173
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 3: H.

1174
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:12,959
Speaker 4: That's true. H. There's no weather park, there's no whether park.

1175
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 3: Better have. Yeah, we'll take these young guys. Think about

1176
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 3: these young guys, some of.

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01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 4: Them, they's only been at one point.

1178
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 2: They can't.

1179
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 3: They can't even rent a car. Can they sign for

1180
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 3: an apartment? Oh no, they better have a good age

1181
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 3: twenty one, They better have a agent if you're twenty

1182
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:38,479
Speaker 3: I mean, if you're not twenty one, can you sign

1183
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 3: for to rent an apartment or somebody have to.

1184
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 2: Do it for you?

1185
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 4: No, you can sign.

1186
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 3: You can sign all right. I thought maybe somebody had

1187
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 3: to sign for you.

1188
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 2: It's not nineteen seventy three making sign for an apartment.

1189
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 4: That's remember across one hundred and tenth Street.

1190
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 2: Anybody else you want to throw in here and there

1191
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 2: as we're in bonus coverage now.

1192
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 3: We kind of skipped over Phil MafA.

1193
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 2: We did well. We got skipped over James the other

1194
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 2: fifth round they traded up to get you've got a

1195
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 2: We don't have time, gentlemen.

1196
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 4: Welcome to overtime. I've got we'll be back next week, right,

1197
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 4: I've got a well, some of us will be.

1198
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 2: Ever since.

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01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm always the first to go.

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01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 3: I told him, by the way, we need to need

1201
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 3: to talk. We need to talk about next week.

1202
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 4: Okay cough, but.

1203
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 3: There's gonna be uh and I don't we don't have

1204
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 3: time for it. But the tight end that they're gonna

1205
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 3: try to sign us an under fairweather Asian Tyler Neville

1206
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 3: from Virginia. He's got an unbelievable story. By the age

1207
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 3: of eighteen, he already had twenty surgeries. Oh wow, and

1208
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 3: he had all these sort he was born deaf. They

1209
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 3: had to put inner air ear tubes in at like

1210
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 3: two years old. And then he came and it's a

1211
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 3: long term. I know, I can't get it out. But

1212
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 3: he ended up with this deformity in his his breastplate

1213
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 3: and rib cage where the bones were growing in instead

1214
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 3: of out, and they had to put a bar across

1215
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 3: his chest right to get the pressure off his lungs.

1216
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 3: And in the meantime, he's in high school playing football

1217
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 3: and basketball. He comes down with lymphoma. He's got cancer. Wow,

1218
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 3: he can't take radiation because of the metal bar in

1219
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 3: his body. Six months of chemo while he was still

1220
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 3: playing high school basketball at a high level. He goes

1221
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 3: to Harvard, plays three years of football there after he

1222
01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 3: recovered from the limphone and transfers his last year to

1223
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 3: Virginia and ends up being their leading receiver at tight end.

1224
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 3: It's an unbelievable story. And started his own his own

1225
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 3: foundation to help kids with childhood cancer. And he went

1226
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 3: to the tight End training camp or whatever the thing

1227
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 3: Kittle does. Well, guess who he knows, Jake Ferguson, because

1228
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:35,439
Speaker 3: Ferguson worked at the camp, so Ferguson kind of knows

1229
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 3: the kid's story. But it's an unbelievable story of how

1230
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 3: many surgeries he had to recover from to be able

1231
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 3: to end up playing. And he graduated, by the way,

1232
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 3: all Ivy League from Harvard and then goes to Virginia

1233
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 3: as a graduate student.

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01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 2: He'll be the he's my pick to be the most

1235
01:05:56,120 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 2: talked about player during Cowboys preseason games in August. You'll

1236
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 2: be hearing that story.

1237
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:03,480
Speaker 3: You better get me on.

1238
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 2: In the third quarter will be joined by Mickey Spagnola

1239
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 2: will tell the story of about.

1240
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 3: And now the fourth quarter starting has.

1241
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 2: All right? Does it for mix shots? And uh how

1242
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 2: about we do it again Tuesday next Tuesday at eleven am. Okay,

1243
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 2: all right, so we'll see you next Tuesday at eleven

1244
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 2: am on mix Shots.

1245
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 4: Go Cowboys.

1246
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:35,680
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01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:37,680
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