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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily.

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Speaker 2: We're only one person on today's show is preparing for

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Speaker 2: his eighteenth NFL training camp.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host today, I'm in the powerchair.

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Speaker 2: I am Jordan Rodrigue, also of the Athletic and Greg Rosenthal,

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Speaker 2: who normally hosts the show, who's dulcet tones you're so

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Speaker 2: accustomed to hearing, is in Japan, and we would like

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Speaker 2: Greg to have as much as time off as possible

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Speaker 2: because it keeps him sane, and it keeps him functional

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Speaker 2: and healthy and running the show which we love so.

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Speaker 2: Eric Roberts is behind the glass today Chris Bobona, and

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Speaker 2: we have a very special guest co host, someone who

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Speaker 2: I have spent a lot of time having the most

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Speaker 2: absurd conversations about every topic possible in the locker room.

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Speaker 2: Somebody who's been in the league for going on eighteen seasons.

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Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers long snapper NFL iron man JJ Jansen, JJ,

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Speaker 2: thank you so much much for being my guest co

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Speaker 2: host today on NFL Daily.

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Speaker 3: This is an absolute blast. I don't know if ironman

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Speaker 3: is a fair term. You only play seven or eight

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Speaker 3: plays a game. I don't think you get full credit

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Speaker 3: the way some of the greats are, but I'll gladly

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Speaker 3: take the compliment for sure.

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Speaker 2: One of the things that we loved doing before today's

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Speaker 2: show is going over your ample amount of highlights. I

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Speaker 2: mean it is literally like watching the same clip over

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Speaker 2: and over. I mean that in the most complimentary way,

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Speaker 2: because you don't mess up. You just do snapball, you know, tackle, snapball, tackle, snapball,

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Speaker 2: a long way tackle, sometimes run down the field, mostly not.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's incredible. You're just mister consistent over time.

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Speaker 3: My whole job is wash rents repeat, so's I'm not

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Speaker 3: the same routine. My aunt, who lives in Atlanta, would

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Speaker 3: come to one game a year, usually in Mercedes Benz Stadium,

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Speaker 3: and she always has the same comment for me, which is,

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Speaker 3: I feel like I've watched that game by you seventeen times.

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Speaker 3: It's the I mean, just this creature of habit, like

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Speaker 3: in this endless loop of sip a glass of water,

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Speaker 4: Field, just round and round.

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Speaker 3: I go for four and a half hours, and I've

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Speaker 2: Have you ever considered that you are in severance? You're

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Speaker 2: in the like the loop.

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Speaker 3: Right, I'm definitely in the loop, There's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 3: The people around me have changed from time to time,

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Speaker 3: the stadiums have changed a little bit. Although being in

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Speaker 3: pretty well I know some of the security guards at

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Speaker 3: other stadiums used to seeing me come through the Carolina

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Speaker 3: They know me.

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Speaker 4: I've played in Mercedes.

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Speaker 3: I've played in the Caesar Superdome like eighteen times dating

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Speaker 3: as anybody. So there's definitely an endless loop going on

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I wasn't going to say this, but

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Speaker 2: I think I just might say this. I was eleven

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Speaker 2: when you first got into the league, so you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm so grateful that I got to know you in

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Speaker 2: the Carolina Panthers locker room. We had some great talks there.

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Speaker 2: You usually made Joe Person miss his deadline. I do

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Speaker 2: just want to point that out, because you know, he

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Speaker 2: loves to talk Little League baseball and you love to

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Speaker 2: talk Little League baseball, and so he would often come

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Speaker 2: like rolling, you know, ambling the way Joe Person, who

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Speaker 2: who covers the Carolina Panthers is an OG legend out there,

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Speaker 2: and he would often stop by your locker and my god,

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Speaker 2: would you guys get to talking and then lose all

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Speaker 2: and to be like, wow, miss my deadline again talking

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Speaker 2: to JJ at his locker, and I think I nailed

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Speaker 1: Also, JJ, that's pretty.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 2: I love that you're joining me today. I'm stoked to

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Speaker 2: have you. You look like you're in a palace right now.

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Speaker 2: I know that logistically, what you're doing in your life

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Speaker 1: We talked about this a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Can you explain to the listeners and also go watch

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Speaker 2: JJ on YouTube so we can explain this palace of

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Speaker 2: versy background situation here, JJ, what the hell are you

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Speaker 3: I do look like I'm on the coast in France somewhere.

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Speaker 3: I'm actually in Cooperstown, New York. I am a five

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Speaker 3: Greg Olsen Hey, and I've been coaching a group of

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Speaker 3: we are in the Cooperstown Dream Park tournaments. So there's

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Speaker 3: one hundred and five teams. We are down to the

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Speaker 3: equally relicy. We are in bunkers, staying on campus, so

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Speaker 3: There is no Wi Fi in there, so he us

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Speaker 3: have four kids. My wife is home with the other three.

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Speaker 3: We didn't ever plan on leaving the barracks, so I

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Speaker 3: air conditioning, which is fantastic and I haven't had that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so, and you guys are undefeated, correct, I've

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Speaker 2: been sort of following along. Yes, they're undefeated so far.

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Speaker 2: Just to go back and paint a picture for the

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Speaker 2: like two NFL players, one former NFL absolute elite tight

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Speaker 1: We have had him on the show.

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Speaker 2: He's a friend of the show and we are huge

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Speaker 2: fans of him. We think he's the best there is.

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Speaker 2: And he and JJ coach a little league baseball highly

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Speaker 2: competitive by the way, extremely competitive, very very talented youth

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Speaker 2: great at their craft, I'm sure, But and then these

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Speaker 2: coach every day, it's just a delight in my brain yeah, we're.

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Speaker 4: Gonna talk about him a little bit later.

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Speaker 3: But our good friend Luke Keithley, he'll often show up

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Speaker 3: He's not marry, doesn't have any kids. He just shows

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, and so yeah, we are a site to

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Speaker 3: bit inflated. Ninety eight percent of the conversation is, oh,

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Speaker 4: There's Greg.

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Speaker 3: The last like two days, we've been here for five.

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Speaker 3: The last two days I've been getting aren't you JJ

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Speaker 3: Jansen the long snapper? So I'm getting a little bit

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Speaker 3: figuring it out slowly, but surely. They do trading pins,

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Speaker 3: So I think people are trying to figure out who's going.

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Speaker 3: So that's I'm getting a little bit of help there.

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Speaker 2: So forty four I remember, right, am I right? Still

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Speaker 2: forty four? Yeah, after all this time, it's been forty four.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, JJ, It's cool.

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Speaker 2: I we're going to talk about another Greg here, who

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Speaker 2: very auspiciously left a certain position group off of his

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Speaker 2: And I had to talk to you about this, but

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Speaker 2: I know you, and I know you got takes, but

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Speaker 2: I need your best Greg Olsen JJ Janssen co coaching

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Speaker 2: story like you did you guys? When have you guys

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Speaker 2: Have you yelled at umps? Has anyone been ejected? For example?

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Speaker 3: Got a great story? So two quick stories. The first

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Speaker 4: Well, my son led past that. He didn't know where

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Speaker 3: He was nine and he's never done this before, and

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Speaker 3: the umpire called him out. So Greg defended my son

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Speaker 3: we were having a game. There was not a single

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Speaker 3: So the tournament sent out a rule that the umpires

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Speaker 3: So the guy kind of threatens me to be like

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Speaker 3: He's yelling at me, and I said, you can't speak

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Speaker 2: You know, statistics in your field are hard to come by, JJ,

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Speaker 3: He's one of our best pitchers, big strong kid, my

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Speaker 2: That's elite dadding right there, and I it just whenever

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Speaker 1: Overall?

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Speaker 2: You've gotten to play with a lot of these guys,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, My first notice is that Adam venit Teri is

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Speaker 3: So we're Super Bowl winner with two different teams, three

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Speaker 1: Yes, amazing.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I remember I was a rookie when Julius his

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Speaker 3: With the Super Bowls, I did think it was very

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Speaker 4: No argument for me on the top three.

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Speaker 3: Tom's the best, Patrick's been fantastic, Peyton, those three are

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's very strange. JJ, I have to

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Speaker 2: But it's just crazy to me because you also you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, Cam Newton was Superman, but Luke was

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Speaker 3: back on the field and it was just the meanest

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Speaker 3: stuff you'd ever heard. And it wasn't like a lot

440
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 3: of like swearing or anything. He was just he knew

441
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,640
Speaker 3: everything about the opponent and he knew what you were

442
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:51,159
Speaker 3: doing strategically. That was the toughest part. He wasn't just

443
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,640
Speaker 3: he just wasn't a trash talker. He knew the game

444
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:57,520
Speaker 3: inside out. And I remember like we were eight games

445
00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 3: into his rookie year and Brad Nortman was our punter.

446
00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 3: They were in the same draft class, and we're kind

447
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,400
Speaker 3: of ohing and on over how good he was again

448
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 3: half a season in and I said, I said, Brad,

449
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 3: like you ever talked to Luke about Like I didn't

450
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 3: know him that well, yet he was still a rookie.

451
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Speaker 4: I said, he ever talked to him about like how

452
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 4: he's so good tackling. He goes, yeah, I actually did.

453
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Speaker 4: We were talking about it a week ago. He goes.

454
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Speaker 3: All he does is he just looks for the guy's

455
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 3: belt and just hangs on for dear life.

456
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 4: I go back and I watch. I was like he did.

457
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 4: Now he did that violently, like when I am really

458
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 4: hanging on. He did it violently.

459
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Speaker 3: But he was an expert in the simplicities of the game,

460
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Speaker 3: and he loved violence and he loved the intelligence. Like

461
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Speaker 3: if he had played any other position, he'd been great

462
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 3: because he he was the best athlete on defense that

463
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 3: we had and he was the smartest guy. But making

464
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 3: him the middle linebacker like the quarterback and be able

465
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:55,160
Speaker 3: to he elevated every other player. You remember Charles Johnson,

466
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Speaker 3: who was a defensive end. We were in a We're

467
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 3: in a training ca and practice and the defensive line

468
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 3: coach was getting on Charles for not reading his keys.

469
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,399
Speaker 3: And in the middle of like they're breaking the huddle,

470
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 3: the coach was still yelling at him to just.

471
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Speaker 4: Read his keys. He stood.

472
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Speaker 3: Charles stood up out of his stance and says, coach,

473
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Speaker 3: I don't care what you say to me.

474
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 4: I'm going exactly where Luke tells me to go.

475
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Speaker 1: Oh my god.

476
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 4: How so the players were.

477
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 3: Ignoring the coaches just to listen to Luke because that's

478
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 3: how that's how intelligent Luke was on the field.

479
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:28,679
Speaker 4: He elevated everyone he played with.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's incredible, Thank you for sharing that. JJ.

481
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 2: And obviously you know him now too in his retired life,

482
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Speaker 2: and I hope he's getting a lot of phishing in.

483
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Speaker 2: We'll ask him about this. He's going to be on

484
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Speaker 2: the show with us here coming up soon. And I

485
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 2: won't say who told me this? An opponent one time,

486
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 2: you know, we always did the deep dives on like

487
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 2: what makes him so good and all this stuff, and

488
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 2: an opponent was like, well, when he talks to you

489
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,679
Speaker 2: on the field, it's not like normal trash talk, like

490
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Speaker 2: you said, it's like he could tell you. He'll roast

491
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,159
Speaker 2: you about the time you like peede your pants in

492
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 2: school and third grade, and then he'll tell you that

493
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 2: you were wrong about the play.

494
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 1: Like it's just the most defeating time of trash. Doc.

495
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Speaker 2: It's incredible. The people that you've been around you've seen

496
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 2: it all. We're going to take a quick break and

497
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Speaker 2: we'll be right back with more. JJ Jansen. Welcome back

498
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Speaker 2: NFL Daily. JJ Jansen's on the show. You're going into

499
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Speaker 2: your eighteenth training camp, and first of all, holy cow right,

500
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 2: and you have seen every training camp unwritten rule, myth, legend, fact,

501
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 2: fiction that there is. So for that reason and because

502
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 2: we're kicking off our fantastic training camp episodes, We're kicking

503
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Speaker 2: off season two of NFL Daily next week when Greg

504
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,199
Speaker 2: is back for Japan, I wanted to talk to you

505
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 2: about training camp myths and facts. So if you don't mind,

506
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 2: I'd love for you to get us started. You know,

507
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 2: you've been going to them for a lot longer than

508
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 2: I got ten years. Hey, I got ten years. But

509
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 2: I will not catch you.

510
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 1: I know that.

511
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:20,479
Speaker 2: So what is a little known fact, a myth, a

512
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 2: training camp, unwritten rule, and experience that tells the people,

513
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 2: the listeners who are not in one, what training camp

514
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 2: is like.

515
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 4: You know, this is with all.

516
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Speaker 3: Of the advancements in the sports science and analytics as

517
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 3: it pertains to like body and maintenance, this is something

518
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:39,640
Speaker 3: that unfortunately is going.

519
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 4: To go away from modern training camp.

520
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 3: But if you talk to any of us that maybe

521
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 3: went to camps in the early two thousands, I kind

522
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 3: of I missed, like going away to colleges, like we

523
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 3: went to Walford College forever. And don't get me wrong,

524
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 3: we're gonna be in Charlotte. I'm gonna be able to

525
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 3: stay in my own bed and see my kids. Like

526
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Speaker 3: I love all that. But the best part of training

527
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 3: camp because it's hard, it's long. You are building up,

528
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 3: you know, Ron Rivera, you say like you're building like

529
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 3: a callousness for the season, like you're you really are

530
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,959
Speaker 3: putting in the work to prepare for the year. But

531
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Speaker 3: what I miss about training camp was in the middle

532
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 3: of the day we'd get like these three hour naps.

533
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 4: You had finish the morning work. You'd be exhausted. You

534
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 4: left it all on the field.

535
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 3: We used to go to training camp, as you remember

536
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 3: in Spartanburg, South Carolina, and these fields like.

537
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: Sit down, I'm traumatized.

538
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 3: Yes they are human, and you are just you are

539
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 3: sweating through socks and shoes and all this stuff. So

540
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 3: you finally get a shower and you go back to

541
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 3: the dormitories and it's not all that different than the

542
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 3: Cooperstown Barracks, but you at least had your own room

543
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 3: and you can sit there and just put your life

544
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 3: back together for two to three hours before you did

545
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 3: it again in the evening. And So while I think

546
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 3: all the science is probably saying stay at home, be

547
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Speaker 3: in your own bed, have all of the modern benefits

548
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 3: of cold tubs and hot tubs and all this stuff,

549
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 3: I always liked the guys would come back together, play cards,

550
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 3: you know, play NERF basketball, take naps, and there was

551
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 3: a lot of camaraderie building in training camp, and I

552
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 3: think that'll be kind of missed as teams certainly focus

553
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 3: on the health of the players, but there'ld just so

554
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 3: much time together because every year is different, right. Good

555
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 3: teams turnover half the roster, Bad teams turn over three

556
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 3: quarters of the roster, and you need time to get

557
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 3: to know your teammates if you're gonna have a long run,

558
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 3: because there are highs and lows in the season. And

559
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 3: the best teams I've been a part of, they had

560
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:43,360
Speaker 3: a bond in the unity and those usually date back

561
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 3: to training camp. So that's my favorite part of training camp.

562
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 3: It is it is not a popular take. I'm just

563
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 3: going to colleges.

564
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, we actually have a picture of you.

565
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 2: You had to become prepared, right, you had to bring

566
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 2: all your fan a mattress, pad, supplies.

567
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: Like all this stuff. We actually have a photo of

568
00:27:58,880 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: you here.

569
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 2: I see you with that Notre Dame t shirt on,

570
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 2: and Johnny Hecker in the back breaking in at that

571
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,719
Speaker 2: time is his new jersey. You guys are check in

572
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 2: and I think that's at Wafford if I recognize that

573
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 2: brick building in the back, and I would say nothing.

574
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 2: Trauma Bond's people like Spartanburg humidity, So that's great, but

575
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 2: also staying in the dorms.

576
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 1: I mean, he's got to tell us what's going on here.

577
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 1: He brought a rug.

578
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 4: Okay, that's great. I like that word. I'm gonna use

579
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 4: that Trauma Bond.

580
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, ta.

581
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 4: Is all about.

582
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 3: So I'm actually wearing one of our our Revolution hats.

583
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 3: So that's our that's our team. You've baseball hat, got it.

584
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 3: I'm actually holding Johnny's golf club. So we found in

585
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 3: the second to last year we're in Wafford, the men's

586
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 3: and women's golf team had a room in our dorm

587
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 3: that we we talked to the women's golf coach, and

588
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 3: we got the code to so when everyone else was

589
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 3: doing ten hour meetings, we were working on our golf game.

590
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 3: So you see Johnny's clubs in my left hand.

591
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: Freaking special teams man.

592
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, we didn't have a whole lot else to do.

593
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 3: We broke it in so like guys like Adam Thielen

594
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 3: wanted to show up, we.

595
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 4: Could share from everything was going.

596
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, it's sort of this is always

597
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 3: like the beginning of summer camp, right. I at this

598
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 3: point I probably hadn't seen Johnny in six weeks, and

599
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 3: and he was coming.

600
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 4: Back from Washington. He's actually that's not his jersey.

601
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 3: That is a nineteen ninety five Frank Wright jersey.

602
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 4: But he had and wanted to get it signed.

603
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 3: So he showed up as any good new student, will

604
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 3: you want to you want to butter up the teacher,

605
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 3: and Johnny went straight ahead and got the uh the

606
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 3: original fourteen from the ninety five Carolina Panthers.

607
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 4: So we got our beds.

608
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 3: We've got a bunch of you know, it's so funny,

609
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 3: like Johnny in his left arm is actually holding like

610
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 3: a carpet because on.

611
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 4: The dorm floors they were like tile. Ah, with the tile.

612
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 3: You wake up and it's cold under your feet, and

613
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 3: that doesn't feel very good when you're waking up first

614
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 3: thing in the morning. So he and I both did

615
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 3: the same thing where you would put that ru right

616
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 3: at the foot of your bed so when your feet

617
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 3: hit the floor is a little cozier under your toes

618
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 3: than a cold tile floor to start your day. So

619
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 3: those are just like the little things. The trauma bonding

620
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 3: not so terrible.

621
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

622
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 2: Wow, going from cold floors to moist, humid fields and

623
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 2: Spartanburg where got to change cleats three times, you are

624
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 2: quite the range of emotions through that Wofford College.

625
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: Okay.

626
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 2: One of my recently developed training camp factoids is that

627
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 2: joint practices are the new preseason and you know, so

628
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 2: many teams half the league and growing are holding backstarters

629
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 2: in the preseason all if not at least one or

630
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 2: two of the games, especially as the seasons get longer,

631
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 2: and these joint practices are increasing as coaches schedule with

632
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 2: each other so that they can actually get contact play.

633
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 2: They can in a safe environment away from audiences, away

634
00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 2: from people filming their plays. Very secretive, very paranoidly league,

635
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 2: as you know, away from visiting scouts that you know,

636
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 2: accidentally show up to the open training camp practice.

637
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: You know it's in the stands, why not?

638
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 2: Are on the hill at Watford College, why not? And

639
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 2: you know see what's going on. They like to work

640
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 2: on things in the seclusion and quietness of a closed

641
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 2: joint training camp practice. But here's what really matters about

642
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 2: the joint practices in this day and age, coaches want

643
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 2: to steal from each other, and they are doing it.

644
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 2: The Los Angeles Rams scheduled joint training camp practices with

645
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 2: the Chargers and Jesse Minter's defense because they wanted to

646
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 2: know some of the pressure packages that he was planning

647
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 2: on using, and they wanted to also use them, which

648
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 2: Chris Shula started doing late in the late last season.

649
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 2: Ron Rivera invited graciously Sean McDermott and the Buffalo Bills

650
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 2: into town into Spartanburg, South Carolina, because only insane people

651
00:31:55,840 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 2: go there for training camp and had joint practice is

652
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 2: I believe it was before that twenty eighteen season, twenty

653
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 2: nineteen season, so that they could understand a little bit

654
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 2: better some of the extra personnel packages that Sean McDermott

655
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 2: was starting to deploy. With that defense, and Ron wanted

656
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 2: to use some of those different things that Sean, his

657
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 2: former protege, was using. Coaches love to steal from each other.

658
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 2: There is no safer way to do it than at

659
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 2: a joint practice.

660
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 4: And coaches love to coach.

661
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 3: So you get the opportunity to watch live games and

662
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 3: get two things done at once. Your first team offense

663
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 3: is on one field, your first team defense is on

664
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 3: the other field, so you get double the tape in

665
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 3: the same amount of time. So the coaches love it,

666
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 3: and as you as you know, well, the front offices

667
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 3: love it because they get to go scout other teams players.

668
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: So the league players legally.

669
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 4: Scouting other players.

670
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 3: So the player I always joke like with our front office,

671
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 3: like the players down on the field in just the

672
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 3: most grueling conditions, and the coaches and office are just

673
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 3: loving it because it's information gathering. Yes, you know, And

674
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 3: obviously it started in twenty sixteen or twenty seventeen with

675
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 3: Sean McVay in LA. You start, you start holding people back,

676
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 3: and then you start the season whatever that was, eight, nine, ten,

677
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 3: and oh, and coaches go, maybe I don't need the

678
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 3: preseason and now I can protect players and you get

679
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 3: all these other advantages, so you're one hundred percent right.

680
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 3: The joint practices are the new preseason games, and you

681
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 3: can protect your quarterbacks, you can pull guys out more

682
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 3: easily and practice what you want and what we are

683
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 3: getting to And I think you've probably seen this in

684
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 3: the last two years when I was first in the

685
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 3: league and you had joint practices, which were rare. There

686
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 3: were always two days, and inevitably day one was a

687
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 3: good practice and some team won and some team lost. Well,

688
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 3: if you lost day one, you were fighting on days

689
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 3: that those are the rules of engagement. You weren't going

690
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 3: to lose the second day, and if you were going

691
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 3: to lose day you were going to come out swinging

692
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 3: literally and figuratively. And so a lot of the coaches

693
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 3: that we've seen they're going to one day yeah, and

694
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 3: they're kind of trying to make it a little bit

695
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,240
Speaker 3: more game like because at the end of the day,

696
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 3: there aren't fifteen yard penalties for fights.

697
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 4: And as much as the.

698
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 3: PA would love for there to be finds and things

699
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 3: that happen on a field, it's not police the same way.

700
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 3: And understandably, so, the joint practice is getting shrunk down

701
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 3: and having one day of it's probably for the best

702
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 3: for everybody. But I know we've talked about this in

703
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 3: the past, like training camp fights.

704
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 4: Some are real, some aren't. Explained camp fights are.

705
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: Real, yes, So okay, JJ, when are they real?

706
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 2: And when are they not real? Because I think we

707
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 2: all have seen it before. If we're at these training camps.

708
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's a second day of a joint practice and

709
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 2: it was a pretty neutral first day and it's just

710
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 2: really hot the second day, right, and so it's like, Okay,

711
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 2: I don't mind getting ejected today from the practice. I'm

712
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 2: going to end my week early. But sometimes it is

713
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 2: it's bad blood. Sometimes there's a lot of trash talk.

714
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 2: It's really competitive. You have to go and make a

715
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 2: statement if you lost the practice the day before. So

716
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 2: when our training camps fights real and when are they myths?

717
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 4: I think in today's day and age, they're real.

718
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, most of them are joint practices. A good amount

719
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 3: of times they're younger players that are really scratching and

720
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 3: cloning to make a roster and they're going to win

721
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:43,439
Speaker 3: by any means necessary. I think you used to see

722
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 3: more of the fake training camp fights. You know, maybe

723
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 3: when I was first in the league amongst two veterans

724
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 3: that just were done with the day.

725
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 4: Yeah right, I want to be out there anymore. And

726
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 4: they kind of knew the rules of engagement.

727
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.

728
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 3: In today's day, our practices are not the same length

729
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 3: that they used to be. They are they are still

730
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 3: super intense, and when you get those hot conditions, I

731
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 3: think people are They're not even really wanting to fight.

732
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 3: They're just so frustrated and they got hit late, or

733
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 3: they got hitting the way they didn't want, and they're

734
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 3: just they snap. And it usually happens about two days

735
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 3: before a joint practice or a game. You kind of

736
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,439
Speaker 3: know the end of playing against one another is coming

737
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 3: to an end, but you can't quite take it anymore.

738
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 3: And so now I think most of the fights are

739
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 3: pretty real teams nobody, nobody really wants to fight, in

740
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 3: my opinion. But I tell you what if someone else

741
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 3: squares up on it. Now, again, this is not happening

742
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 3: to me. So I'm watching this all.

743
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 4: From distant but I've had in my career.

744
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 3: I've had two injuries in joint practices on a putt

745
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 3: rush because it does get physical and it gets it

746
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 3: gets a little different because now I'm being rushed by

747
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 3: someone that's trying to make the team, and even if

748
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 3: their coach has told them don't run any players over.

749
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 3: We don't want ankles and people landing on their head.

750
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 3: If they get a chance to go block a punt

751
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 3: in practice, they want to do it, so but there's

752
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 3: no like I always think punt rushes like in practice

753
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 3: are always the hardest because there's no return based off

754
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 3: of it. Like in a game, you don't get home,

755
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 3: you're circling back and trying to get someone to block. Well,

756
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 3: in practice, you're just rushing. So it is an absolute

757
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 3: mosh pit. And I've actually I've actually sprained and broke

758
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 3: I've sprained a finger and broke my hand in joint

759
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 3: practices just because you're like in you're in a tussle,

760
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 3: so it's real. They're not they're not completely safe, but

761
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 3: you know, the quarterbacks are in the red jerseys, and

762
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 3: if you're if your center has a he has a

763
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,919
Speaker 3: sprained hand, he's not in there, whereas in preseason games

764
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 3: or regular season games, you're in there. So it's been

765
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 3: a good benefit and it doesn't hurt to see some

766
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 3: guys from other teams.

767
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 4: And again help the trauma bonding with other teams, and.

768
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 2: Of course, if you were to get ejected JJ, you'd

769
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 2: probably get reinstated based on your past precedent of.

770
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 3: I could probably talk my way back way back it.

771
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 3: Nobody nobody else is trying to talk their way back

772
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:11,240
Speaker 3: on the field. So usually when guys are getting ejected

773
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 3: from practice, they're.

774
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 4: Happy to leave.

775
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: Amazing.

776
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 2: Okay, before we get you out of here and back

777
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 2: to coaching a completely dominant Little league team that's sweeping currently,

778
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 2: by the way, that you left Greg Olsen in charge of,

779
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 2: by the way, all thirteen twelve thirteen kids while you

780
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 2: come to our show.

781
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 1: So thank you very much for that, and thank you moms.

782
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 3: The moms are helping out. Trust me moms around helping

783
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 3: keep everything on.

784
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 4: The on the track.

785
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: Okay, good.

786
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 2: I could just hear Greg's voice in my head organizing everybody.

787
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 2: So it's that maybe that, maybe that's my trauma bonding moment.

788
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 3: There two things I've learned. He is obsessed with floor cleanliness,

789
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 3: so there's been rooming in there. And he is he

790
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 3: is all in on medical emergencies. Our kids hurt, their

791
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 3: kids get hurt. He is flying off the buck, hit

792
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 3: on the side, we're wrapping our kids' legs when they

793
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 3: get bruises, we are icing other people's teams, and he

794
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 3: loves a good medical emergency.

795
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 1: So coming soon to the show the pit Greg als.

796
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 3: Both his parents were teachers. Is that as a football coach,

797
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 3: so it kind of comes with the territory.

798
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 4: He's all in on it. So we don't need a

799
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:20,720
Speaker 4: training staff.

800
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 2: We got Greg shirts, we got Greg Okay, So before

801
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 2: we get you out here, one more training camp myth

802
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 2: tidbit factoid. Something you want to share about the real

803
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 2: side of training camp with our listeners today.

804
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think on the football side, you know, most

805
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 3: of the roster spots are pretty taken. Yeah, I think

806
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 3: there isn't this belief that there's ninety guys fighting for

807
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 3: fifty three spots. There's there's fifty five guys, or there's

808
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 3: let's call it sixty five guys fighting for fifty three spots.

809
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe not even that much.

810
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 3: Now with the post COVID rules, the expanded practice squad

811
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 3: eligibility and the standard elevations and all that stuff.

812
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 4: If you if you.

813
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 3: Play really well on the ninety man roster in training camp,

814
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 3: you'll get on your own practice squad, and that's a

815
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,439
Speaker 3: really good place to start. You know, the roster isn't

816
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 3: fifty three anymore, it's seventy. And there's a huge advantage

817
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 3: to playing really well at training camp. But there's not

818
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 3: as many camp battles as I think everyone would like

819
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 3: to see everyone. You know, probably once a year someone

820
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 3: that really wasn't expected to make the roster does. Sometimes

821
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 3: you're not even keeping the best fifty three, you're keeping

822
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 3: the fifty three that you think someone else will claim.

823
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 4: And how do I navigate the rules just a little bit?

824
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 3: Not not the rules, but hey, we don't think this

825
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 3: s guy will get claimed. We can start him on

826
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 3: practice squad, and this other guy he might not be

827
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 3: a starter or even our backup, but we see some

828
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 3: developmental opportunities for him and we're going to protect them

829
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 3: on the roster. So, you know, there's a lot of

830
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 3: roster maintenance in those first few weeks that are happening.

831
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 3: But there's just not as many camp battles as everybody

832
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 3: thinks because a lot of those decisions are made in March, yeah,

833
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 3: with money and contracts and draft picks.

834
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:15,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, But as the season.

835
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 3: Goes along, the roster building Marty Hernie our OLGM said

836
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 3: roster buildings three sixty five, and I'm sure every GM

837
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,399
Speaker 3: in the NFL feels the same way.

838
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 4: So we have these deadlines.

839
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 3: And one of them is the fifty three man cut,

840
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 3: but the roster is always churning. It's just not as

841
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 3: fluid as I think maybe the fans might think it is.

842
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, teams will cut players and then sign them back

843
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 2: to save four hundred thousand dollars on their contract. Teams will,

844
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 2: like you said, protect certain players that they want to develop,

845
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 2: or who are key depth places or play on special

846
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 2: teams and need to play multiple like a core four

847
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 2: player on special teams. They will keep them and then

848
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 2: try to We call it sending a guy through the wash,

849
00:41:56,080 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 2: basically sneak a guy through this massive flood of cuts

850
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 2: all across the league. It's easier than you think for

851
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 2: these front offices to lose track of players that they want.

852
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 2: It's it's a very interesting time of year.

853
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 4: Jordan.

854
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 3: I was going to ask you, Yeah, the front office

855
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 3: always talks about sneaking guys through. It's not it's not

856
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 3: like sneaking in the back door. There is a there,

857
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,439
Speaker 3: there's a list. Yeah, how on earth does anyone get

858
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 3: like snuck through.

859
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:24,439
Speaker 4: I don't understand this, JJ.

860
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:29,240
Speaker 2: You would be absolutely gobsmacked at some of the people

861
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 2: in these front offices.

862
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 1: That's all I'm gonna say. Yeah, And also that.

863
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 2: The role is the control f the role of control

864
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 2: effings trying to find your guy. Uh, you know, sometimes

865
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 2: it's delegated to someone very low on the food chain

866
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 2: who has is doing a million different jobs.

867
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: Also, sometimes they're.

868
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,919
Speaker 4: Not Google alerts for these guys' names. That's got There's

869
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 4: gotta be some.

870
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 1: Okay, So it's funny.

871
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,399
Speaker 2: There should be like you know, it would get into

872
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 2: like really tricky territory in terms of the union what

873
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 2: the union says is allowed and not allowed. But conversation.

874
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 2: Just talk to each other, you know, your adults just

875
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 2: talk to each other. Although that's not really allowed, so

876
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 2: we won't really do that. But I'm just saying, like

877
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 2: you can't. Some of these guys are hard to miss,

878
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 2: and yet they still go through the wash or it's

879
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 2: a cost cutting move. Also, my last one too is

880
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 2: if you are somebody who is interested in position battles,

881
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 2: and they're like rosters are pretty set, as you said,

882
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 2: going into training camp. But if you are somebody interested

883
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 2: in running backs by committee or competitions for receiving reps

884
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 2: and targets. Then look at watch where people line up

885
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 2: in drills. You might not think it matters, but the videos,

886
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 2: the boring videos of players lining up for drills, tells

887
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 2: you so much more than the gorgeous, sweeping, well produced

888
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 2: shot of the ball sailing through the air for the

889
00:43:56,200 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: highlight reel catch for the new receiver. The boring stuff

890
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 2: tells you so much more about training camp and about

891
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 2: the team than the exciting stuff. And I think that

892
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 2: also if I can bridge the gap JJ, if I

893
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 2: can do it, I don't know.

894
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: If I can do it.

895
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 2: That also tells you so much about what is important

896
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 2: about your craft. Your craft that you've been doing for

897
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 2: now eighteen going to be eighteen seasons. You just repeat

898
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 2: and habits and what some on the outside might call

899
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 2: the boring. See, I'm nailing this, you know the segue,

900
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 2: I'm getting it. I'm nailing it landing the plane. This

901
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 2: is exactly why you've been so successful for so long,

902
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 2: because you have studied your craft. You understand it, every

903
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 2: granular layer to it that the outside world does not see.

904
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 2: And it's reps and its consistency, and it is never

905
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 2: missing time and never missing a start to training camp somehow,

906
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 2: even though you very much would be within your rights

907
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 2: to do that. At this point, it's just an honor

908
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 2: talking to you today. Thank you so much for co

909
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 2: hosting with me. I never thought little Joe, you know,

910
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 2: running around like a chicken with her head cut off,

911
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 2: scared just in the Panthers' locker room. I never thought

912
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 2: that I would get an opportunity to actually co host

913
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 2: an NFL Network show with you, and we got to

914
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 2: do that today and I am freaking stoked, so thank

915
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 2: you so much.

916
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 4: And this was a blast. This absolutely flew by. I

917
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 4: just took a peek.

918
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 2: I was like, I know, I was like, I suddenly

919
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 2: became very aware of how long.

920
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,240
Speaker 4: This is exactly a lot of ground fast.

921
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: This is how Joe person always missed his deadline. JJ.

922
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: You just get to talking to you. It's you. You're

923
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 1: like you're the void.

924
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 2: Like you just start talking to you and you lose

925
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 2: complete track of time in the best way. And I

926
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 2: really appreciate that.

927
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 3: This has been so much fun, and I really appreciate

928
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 3: the time and having me on. This is a blast.

929
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 3: I gotta keep I gotta keep working my craft because

930
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 3: I needed I get more fun out of asking you

931
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 3: the follow up questions than just just answering the questions. Again,

932
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 3: I wasn't totally sure. The thing I was going to

933
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 3: bring up about the front offices was simply the idea

934
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 3: that every front office I've ever been a part of

935
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 3: tells me they sneak guys through three days early, like

936
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 3: they all do it.

937
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 4: So and you cleared it up.

938
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 3: I didn't have any idea, so I'll be more prepared

939
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 3: next time to ask you a bunch of questions the

940
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 3: things I had.

941
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 4: No idea about.

942
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 1: I love it well, JJ. We appreciate you.

943
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 2: Eric behind the glass, you did a great job. Chris

944
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 2: Pabona on the keys back there with the video when

945
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 2: we're talking to the eighteen season long snapper for the

946
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers, JJ Jansen, wait for it, wait for it,

947
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 2: Wait for it, wait for it, wait for it.

948
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 1: You know football is back