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Speaker 1: that all the planned parenthoods are running, you know, all

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Speaker 1: the infants, you know, avatars for infants are going during

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Speaker 1: this whole process. Got to make sure that's happening. But

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Speaker 1: there are people who do just want to protect life,

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Speaker 1: and I understand that, and that's obviously a very valid argument.

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Speaker 1: But there are also people that are pretending how much

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Speaker 1: they care about protecting life because they also view this

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Speaker 1: as a huge opportunity politically, the same way they pretended

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Speaker 1: to care about troops getting killed in Iraq on the

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Speaker 1: left when that was just a weapon to bludgeon the

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Speaker 1: Bush administration with. Because the moment that the debts were

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Speaker 1: happening under Obama in Afghanistan, they didn't care. Anti war

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Speaker 1: left disappeared. So someone else want to try to find

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Speaker 1: an explanation for me for why that was the case.

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Speaker 1: We all know. This is why I mean, I hate

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Speaker 1: fake I hate fake principles and moralizing from frauds and

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Speaker 1: people that don't really care about their fellow human beings

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Speaker 1: but just drape themselves in so much concern about their

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Speaker 1: fellow human beings. Now, I'm not saying that that's there

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Speaker 1: are a lot of people that are just worried about this,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's a majority of them, and I

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Speaker 1: get that, and they in the most basic human way

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Speaker 1: just want to protect life, and I respect that. But

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Speaker 1: there is a strong contingent as well of people who

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Speaker 1: it's really just about an opportunity to bash Trump and

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Speaker 1: keep the government shut down. You know, I don't think

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Speaker 1: they're upulated. And I worried about how many cases of

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Speaker 1: COVID nineteen or are going bad on any given day.

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Speaker 1: I think that there's there's certainly a contingent for whom

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Speaker 1: that is the case. And they're very loud. They're very

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Speaker 1: loud on Twitter. They were allowed in other places too.

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Speaker 1: But that's why that that that whole Tapper thing, Well,

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Speaker 1: could lives have been saved sooner? And Fauci's like, I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: of course you could always say that. But you know,

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Speaker 1: then the other the question that you have to follow,

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Speaker 1: if you're a real journalist, you'd have to say, well,

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Speaker 1: didn't you have an obligation to make that if it's

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Speaker 1: about saving lives? Didn't doctor Fauci others have the obligation

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Speaker 1: to tell everybody to make noise, not just to tell

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Speaker 1: the president, but to go out there and make a

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Speaker 1: statement that this is what they see, this is what

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Speaker 1: they believe. And then isn't there blood on the hands

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Speaker 1: of the experts who are supposed to be protecting us.

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Speaker 1: If we're going to play the blood on the hands game,

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Speaker 1: which I don't think we should be doing, but this

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Speaker 1: is what keeps happening, then what about the people that

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Speaker 1: their only job was to protect us from this and

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Speaker 1: they got it wrong capital w wrong. Oh, they knew

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Speaker 1: a little bit before Trump, did They knew a little

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Speaker 1: bit before uh, you know, a few weeks before he

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Speaker 1: took the steps to lock down lock things down. We

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Speaker 1: still don't even know how long this has even been

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Speaker 1: in the country. But they want to say his blood,

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Speaker 1: blood on his hands. And let me also just note

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Speaker 1: that the explanation that we're going to get from so

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Speaker 1: many people of Trump's, of Trump's culpability here, is just

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Speaker 1: going to in the most disgraceful and dishonest way possible.

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Speaker 1: It's just going to ignore that European countries, sophisticated socialized medicine,

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Speaker 1: European countries are getting crushed by this right now. Their

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Speaker 1: health systems are in worse shape than ours. And to

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Speaker 1: do the numbers to numbers comparison, you know what the

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Speaker 1: I mean, the real comparison should be fatality. If if

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Speaker 1: we're going to do it an honest comparison of fatalities,

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Speaker 1: it should be fatalities in the United States versus fatalities

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Speaker 1: and aggregate in the Eurozone. That would give you a

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Speaker 1: real sense, you know that that that population wise is close.

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Speaker 1: And I think the Eurozone probably has about five hundred

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Speaker 1: million people and America has three hundred and thirty. But

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Speaker 1: to compare three hundred and thirty million person in America,

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Speaker 1: as the media keeps doing with Italy, Italy has sixty

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Speaker 1: million people. We're five times the size of Italy. So

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Speaker 1: why is it such a big Why is it so

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Speaker 1: noteworthy that we have only, by the way, slightly more

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Speaker 1: deaths in this country than Italy does. We're gonna start

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Speaker 1: talking about this in terms of the numbers, then we

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Speaker 1: should at least know what numbers we're talking about. I

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Speaker 1: think that that's fair, But I'm also concerned that we're

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Speaker 1: going to keep getting this line about how you can't

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Speaker 1: have the conversation now about reopening. Just take that shutdown

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Speaker 1: and just accept it. Take that shutdown and don't say

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Speaker 1: a word. Shut your mouth during the shutdown. They say,

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Speaker 1: here is Governor Cuomo, who you want to talk about

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Speaker 1: blood on hands. Yeah, he gave some good press conferences.

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Speaker 1: But the further I've been digging into what he did

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Speaker 1: in the months leading up to this very bad. No preparation,

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Speaker 1: no foresight. He's If Trump is guilty of any lack

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Speaker 1: of anything here, Cuomo is even more guilty because he's

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Speaker 1: the one presiding over New York. This is his backyard.

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Speaker 1: This is what he's supposed to take care of. We

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Speaker 1: got hit harder than anybody else. So now here's the

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Speaker 1: way that Cuomo talks about this Play eleven. Keep politics

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Speaker 1: out of it, Focus on government, and focus on policy,

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Speaker 1: and keep politics out of it. It's very hard, especially

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Speaker 1: at this time, and you start to hear this dialogue

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Speaker 1: on reopening, and you start to hear people with political

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Speaker 1: theories on whether we should reopen faster, whether we should

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Speaker 1: reopen sooner, or why are people against reopening? Why are

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Speaker 1: people in favor of reopening? That is corrosive and destructive

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Speaker 1: and if we don't stop it, it will feed on

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Speaker 1: itself annual political conspiracies here. But there's no shortage to politics.

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Speaker 1: There's no shortage of political implications for this. And I

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Speaker 1: don't just mean partisan political implications. I mean our relationship

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Speaker 1: to the state, both in terms of the fifty states

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Speaker 1: and then also the big s state, the sovereign, the leviathan.

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Speaker 1: The changes in the way that we're supposed to interact

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Speaker 1: with our elected officials and with the agencies that operate

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Speaker 1: at the at their direction. These are remarkable things. These

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Speaker 1: are not small things. And I will talk to you

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Speaker 1: about how people have started to, even on the left,

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Speaker 1: recognize that we are living in what is effectively feeling

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Speaker 1: like right now, a benevolent authoritarian state. Now, whether you

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Speaker 1: think it's benevolent or not, put that aside. It's trying

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Speaker 1: to be and it is. They are. Let's not let's

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Speaker 1: not get crazy. The public health authorities and the people

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Speaker 1: running the states and everybody to buy and you know,

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Speaker 1: the the overwhelming not just majority, but you know almost

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Speaker 1: all of them are doing almost all of what they're

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Speaker 1: doing because they think that it's going to help people.

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Speaker 1: So we're not going to stray into crazy town where

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Speaker 1: this is like they're leading us off into FEMA camps

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Speaker 1: or something. I'm just saying though, that they're still establishing

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Speaker 1: a precedent and they're still taking upon themselves authority to

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Speaker 1: do things that they don't really constitutionally have a right

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Speaker 1: to do, and even if they're doing it for our

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Speaker 1: benefit this time, there are longer term problems that that raises.

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Speaker 1: There are problems, and also I think in the next

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Speaker 1: six months, if this were to continue, we'll start to

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Speaker 1: see more and more of that. But we have to

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Speaker 1: have a debate about this, and there will be a

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Speaker 1: political component to it, There's no question about it, especially

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Speaker 1: with an election coming up this fall. So be prepared

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Speaker 1: for a lot of people to tell you to stop

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Speaker 1: being political. While they are giving absolutely part as in

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Speaker 1: political lectures, the same sentence and the same breath, they'll

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Speaker 1: be dully telling you, don't make this political. Do what

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Speaker 1: I say. Trump is terrible. He has blood on his hands.

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Speaker 1: Now shut up and go into lockdown. That's what we're

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Speaker 1: going to be seeing. You're in the Freedom Heard. This

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Speaker 1: is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. What we're seeing is

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Speaker 1: we're united in social distancing and that's been very encouraging

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Speaker 1: to all of us, and it should be encouraging to

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Speaker 1: the healthcare providers that are on the front line, many

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Speaker 1: of which are serving our Americans with such dignity and

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Speaker 1: respect and ensuring that everybody gets optimal care and as

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Speaker 1: the President noted, our mortality in the United States is

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Speaker 1: significantly less than many of the other countries when you

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Speaker 1: correct them for our population, and that is really solely

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Speaker 1: the work of our health our frontline healthcare providers, and

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Speaker 1: so working with you can really hopefully you get the

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Speaker 1: theme today that we are incredibly proud of our public

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Speaker 1: health leaders at the city level, at the state level,

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Speaker 1: at the federal level, who are working together to really

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Speaker 1: change the course of this pandemic, working with their citizens

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Speaker 1: in their communities to make these changes, and the American

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Speaker 1: public who has really taken all of this to heart.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Burkes seems to me to be a reasonable voice

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Speaker 1: on most of these issues. I haven't heard her be unreasonable,

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Speaker 1: so I'd say a reasonable voice period. Doesn't mean that

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Speaker 1: she's right on everything, but at least she's I don't

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Speaker 1: see her. I don't see her deciding that she's going

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Speaker 1: to do anything that's overtly political. That's my sense of it, right,

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Speaker 1: I haven't gotten that from anything she said. She does

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Speaker 1: point out here exactly what I was telling you, that

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Speaker 1: the mortality rates. First of all, the overall number is

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Speaker 1: worthless when you're comparing countries that are a fraction of

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Speaker 1: the size of the United States the United States, and

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Speaker 1: another long term component of this is going to be

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Speaker 1: and here's here's a prediction that I'm confident in. You'll

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Speaker 1: see that while we have been told for the last

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Speaker 1: particularly the last ten years, that we've been told that

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Speaker 1: the European countries have better healthcare than we do. We

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Speaker 1: always hear this European hunt countries have the better healthcare system,

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Speaker 1: and everyone has it, and it's free, and they figured

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Speaker 1: it all out. You're going to see when they when

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Speaker 1: they compare apples to apples here of individuals roughly the

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Speaker 1: same age, roughly the same condition going into a hospital,

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Speaker 1: what are the chances if you went into a hospital

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Speaker 1: in Italy or Spain that you survive with COVID nineteen

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Speaker 1: as somebody remember, adjusted for age, because we know how

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Speaker 1: important a category that is. If you're sixty five and

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Speaker 1: over and you go into a hospital in spanned Italy,

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Speaker 1: what are the chances of survival versus if you're sixty

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Speaker 1: five are over going to a hospital in the United States.

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Speaker 1: I think that we will see that our system here

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Speaker 1: is notably stronger, better, And this has been true about

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Speaker 1: cancer for a long time. That our long term cancer

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Speaker 1: survival rates are much better than our European counterparts, with

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Speaker 1: a possible exception of like Switzerland, a couple of small

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Speaker 1: ultrawealthy company countries, but in general a large large Eurozone

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Speaker 1: countries have a lesser cancer survival rate, particularly beyond five years,

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Speaker 1: which is the marker they generally use in cancer cancer studies.

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Speaker 1: We're stronger than they are on that issue, and I

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Speaker 1: think we're going to see we're much stronger on COVID

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Speaker 1: nineteen two, so that look, that's a longer term issue.

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Speaker 1: But I just think that the people that are constantly

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Speaker 1: trashing the economy and trashing capitalism and saying that you know,

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Speaker 1: we should have if we had a healthcare medicare for all,

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Speaker 1: everything would be better. Know what they're going to find

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Speaker 1: out is because we have doctors who are well paid

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Speaker 1: and who efficiency is rewarded in our medical system at

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Speaker 1: some level, meaning good care. When I say efficiency is rewarded,

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Speaker 1: it's not just as you get paid the same no

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Speaker 1: matter what. It doesn't matter that that will have the

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Speaker 1: effect of actually saving lives here in the aggregate when

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Speaker 1: you look at all the cases together, that having at

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Speaker 1: a better funded and more more market base, not free

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Speaker 1: market at all, but more market based healthcare system than

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Speaker 1: some of our European counterparts. I'm telling you we're gonna

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Speaker 1: You're going to see studies are going to come out.

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Speaker 1: It's going to take a few years, but just mark

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Speaker 1: my words on the show that if you have COVID nineteen,

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Speaker 1: you'd much rather be an American hospital than anywhere in

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Speaker 1: the Eurozone right now, that's for sure. Thanks for listening

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Speaker 1: to The Bus Sesson Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on

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Speaker 1: The President raised a lot of valid concerns China was

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Speaker 1: not truthful with the world at the outset of this.

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Speaker 1: Had they been more truthful with the world, which would

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Speaker 1: have enabled them to be more truthful with themselves, they

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Speaker 1: might have actually been able to contain this entirely. And

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Speaker 1: there is some growing evidence to suggest that as late

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Speaker 1: as January twentieth, they were still saying that there was

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Speaker 1: no human to human transmission, and the WHO is validating

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Speaker 1: those claims on Uary fourteen, sort of enabling the obfuscation

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Speaker 1: from China. I think going forward, the WHO needs to

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Speaker 1: commit to an after action report that specifically examines what

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Speaker 1: China did it didn't tell the world, and how that

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Speaker 1: sty made the global response to this. I also think

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Speaker 1: they need to embrace Taiwan's role in the global health

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Speaker 1: community and allow them to attend the World Health Assembly.

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Speaker 1: Right now, they've frozen China out. The who has it's

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Speaker 1: sort of the behest of China, and that's hampered the

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Speaker 1: global response because China has been a very important partner.

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Speaker 1: To give you just one more anecdote, China didn't share

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Speaker 1: the viral strains and the who should have made them

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Speaker 1: do that. Had they shared those early on, we could

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Speaker 1: have developed a diagnostic test earlier, validated earlier. Okay, So

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Speaker 1: here you have former FDA Commissioner Scott Gottlieb, who is

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Speaker 1: also one of the authors of that plan to reopen

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Speaker 1: America that I've talked to you about. He's all over

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Speaker 1: the place right now as somebody who's weighing in on

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Speaker 1: this issue. That sound by It was a little confusing.

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Speaker 1: He's talking about important issue, but he kept saying China,

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Speaker 1: and sometimes he said China when he meant Taiwan. Taiwan

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Speaker 1: wanted to tell the world more about what it was seeing,

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Speaker 1: wanted to tell more to the World Health Organization, Taiwan

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Speaker 1: was trying to raise the alarm bell early. But you

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Speaker 1: know what, the WHO and other international institutions, they adhere

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Speaker 1: to China's Taiwan as part of China policy. Right, this irredentism,

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Speaker 1: this obsession with Taiwan as part of the Chinese mainland.

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Speaker 1: Taiwanese don't feel that way, but you know, China thinks

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Speaker 1: of it as just an extension of its own sovereignty,

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Speaker 1: its own territory. International organizations won't stick up to China

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Speaker 1: on this one. You know, they won't member when they

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Speaker 1: used to be things like you know, Tibetan Freedom, the

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Speaker 1: Concert and there. There's all this stuff that was really

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Speaker 1: about pushing back on Chinese aggression and Chinese domination of

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Speaker 1: areas that weren't not Chinese. That's fading away. That's fading

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Speaker 1: away because the media, because international institutions are scared of

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Speaker 1: the China Chinese government's influence and money and what it

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Speaker 1: can do. This has been sneaking up on us. Trump

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Speaker 1: knew this. Trump has been raising the alarm of this.

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Speaker 1: He is right. Our entire China intelligentsia in this country,

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Speaker 1: meaning people that study China and think tanks and have

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Speaker 1: been overwhelmingly wrong. They were telling us for the last

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Speaker 1: twenty years or so. Oh this is great. Look at

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Speaker 1: how cheap your flat screen TV is at Walmart because

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Speaker 1: it's made in China. Oh this is great. Look at

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Speaker 1: how cheap your iPhone is. This is capitalism, this is

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Speaker 1: how it works. Oh no, there's a lot more going

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Speaker 1: on than just that. We should have had more sophisticated thinking.

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Speaker 1: But international corporations, major companies, the kind that right checks

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Speaker 1: to think tanks, for example, they were all too happy

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Speaker 1: to play along with the this is a win win

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Speaker 1: for US. China sells US cheap, cheap stuff, a lot

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Speaker 1: of it crappy. But China sells US cheap stuff and

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Speaker 1: we get to outsource all of our production, so companies

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Speaker 1: get to make more money. Oh now we find out

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Speaker 1: that there are more There are more considerations than merely

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Speaker 1: paying workers a lot less and driving up your stock price.

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Speaker 1: That there are more things for a company to think about.

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Speaker 1: Patriotism for corporations is in fact a consideration that we

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Speaker 1: should all insist on. Right. That should be the future

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Speaker 1: in this country. I've talked about made in America, but

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Speaker 1: it should also be caring about America, that patriotism for

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Speaker 1: American companies should be a mandate. And the stuff that

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Speaker 1: we've seen where for example, Google will have employees who

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Speaker 1: won't work with American defense companies or won't work with

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Speaker 1: the US government trying to develop new technology to keep

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Speaker 1: our soldiers safer, to make sure that we don't get

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Speaker 1: caught unaware on the battlefield. But the same employee and

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Speaker 1: Silicon Value and Google they'll allow, they'll keep doing business

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Speaker 1: in China if they can, while China is running the

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Speaker 1: biggest surveillance operation the world's ever seen on its own

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Speaker 1: people and everyone else who goes there. Patriotism matters. Patriotism matters.

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Speaker 1: We have to do a rethink here about the approach

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Speaker 1: that our companies take and what they're trying to do

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Speaker 1: going forward. This is, I hope, a wake up call

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Speaker 1: on that front. And the Chinese government has been a

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Speaker 1: massive problem for us for a long time on a

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Speaker 1: number of fronts. But this, I mean, we're not even

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Speaker 1: talking about how much intellectual property they've stolen from us.

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Speaker 1: You know, why do we have a why do we

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Speaker 1: have a military advantage over China? Yeah, we have the

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Speaker 1: best military in the world. We have the best soldiers

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Speaker 1: in the world. But guess what technology also really matters here? Right,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. You give me the best pilot on

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Speaker 1: the planet. If the other guy has better are than

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Speaker 1: you and missiles fire further and faster than you're, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna die and he's not. And Chinese have been stealing

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Speaker 1: our most sensitive technology, business and military espionage going on

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Speaker 1: for years and years. And where was where were the

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Speaker 1: alarms about this? Oh? You know nobody. Oh they too

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Speaker 1: much trade with China. We can manage, we can't handle

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Speaker 1: the to upset them. So this is a reset. Look,

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Speaker 1: it's the start of a new Cold War, folks. That's

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Speaker 1: where we are. This is this is a Cold war

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Speaker 1: with China underway now because of this virus. And at

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Speaker 1: the end of this, either the American Republic will be

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Speaker 1: standing or the Chinese Communist Party will be standing. They

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Speaker 1: will not be both. This is how these tectonic level

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Speaker 1: shifts in international relations occur. A major unforeseen event that

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden causes a rethink of so many

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Speaker 1: other things. And we're in it right now. You're you're

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Speaker 1: in the beginning phase of it. Oh, what is just

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Speaker 1: going to go away? We're going to say that everything

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Speaker 1: is fine. We're gonna Oh, does anyone really feel like

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Speaker 1: forgiving the Chinese Communist Party for this or some people

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Speaker 1: call it the Chinese the Communist Party of China. By

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Speaker 1: the way, you'll see it written two ways. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is a reminder. I was a little bit surprised

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Speaker 1: that Navarro. Oh, I'm sorry, No, that sounds like, wait

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Speaker 1: a second, who's Navarro now to because I was like,

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Speaker 1: Peter Navarro didn't say this, Who's Navarro had this to say?

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Speaker 1: Play clib seven. We really do have to work with

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Speaker 1: the information we get. We don't have in the World

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Speaker 1: Health Organization the power to go and inspect beyond what

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Speaker 1: countries tell us. That's been made clear in the treaty

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Speaker 1: that governments agreed in two thousand and five on how

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Speaker 1: nations work together and how the WHO operates. But I

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Speaker 1: say this that they did invite a team pulled together

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Speaker 1: by the World Health Organization to come and inspect everything

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Speaker 1: in mid February. There were no restrictions on what that

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Speaker 1: team investigated. It included American experts as well as experts

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Speaker 1: from others in the world. So we are trying to

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Speaker 1: be clear to everybody that we have been given access

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Speaker 1: to the information we requested, and so therefore I don't

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Speaker 1: like any at any time to say we don't believe.

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Speaker 1: We believe what we've got. We work with what we've got.

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Speaker 1: That's how we operate in the World Health Organization. WHA

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Speaker 1: trying to trying to run some damage control here. Sure,

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Speaker 1: China was just great about this whole thing. We've We've

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Speaker 1: known for years. Here's the problem when you look at

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Speaker 1: the timeline for stars for H one N one and

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Speaker 1: even this book by Sonya Shaw that I read a

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Speaker 1: couple of years ago, just because I've always found pandemic

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Speaker 1: disease and I can show you this. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: downloaded this book at least I think two or three

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Speaker 1: years ago, read it. I've talked about it before on

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Speaker 1: the show. Has some very interesting stuff historically about pandemics.

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Speaker 1: But she just walks you through how for pandemic disease

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Speaker 1: the Chinese, the Chinese practice of animal you know, harvesting

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Speaker 1: animals in huge numbers, and the look the lack of

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Speaker 1: hygiene that's involved with a lot of these animals. It's

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Speaker 1: just it's a perfect laboratory for this kind of disease. Spread.

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Speaker 1: We've known this for the last at least the last fifteen,

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Speaker 1: probably twenty years. This just keeps happening, keeps happening, keeps happening.

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Speaker 1: How many people knew that that was going on? How

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Speaker 1: many had really figured out that China was such a

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Speaker 1: danger in this regard to the whole world? You know,

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Speaker 1: I do give him some credit. Bill Maher Over the

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Speaker 1: weekend on his show, he did a monologue from from

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Speaker 1: his home I guess in Malibu, we're Beverly Hills or

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Speaker 1: whatever it is, for his show, and he's horrible on so.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he hates Trump. If you bring up Trump

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Speaker 1: with him, his eyes just become bloodshot, and he just

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Speaker 1: he hates Trump as much as any human being you'll

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Speaker 1: ever find. So you can't have a conversation that involves

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Speaker 1: Trump with them at all. I learned that the hard way, Okay.

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Speaker 1: But on the issue of China, he is willing to

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Speaker 1: say that this one we should call it the Chinese

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Speaker 1: Chinese coronavirus or Chinese COVID nineteen, that we should say that,

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Speaker 1: and that's that's now. He's a little late to this party.

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Speaker 1: A lot of conservatives have been saying it for weeks

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Speaker 1: that this is. You know, lime disease is named for Lyme, Connecticut,

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Speaker 1: zeka Ibola, etc. Etc. This has all been well known

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Speaker 1: for a long time. Although interesting enough, the Spanish Flu

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Speaker 1: probably started in America and made its way to Europe

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Speaker 1: because of troop movements and because Spain. Because Spain during

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Speaker 1: the First World War the end of the First World

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Speaker 1: War did not have it was a neutral country, did

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Speaker 1: not have the same press restrictions in place, their press

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Speaker 1: wrote about this flu. That's how became known as a

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Speaker 1: Spanish flu, even though it wasn't particularly bad in Spain

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Speaker 1: at that time, and it was certainly not first established

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Speaker 1: or developed in Spain. Time they ever found it was

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Speaker 1: hundred and four degree fever and that's when they think

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Speaker 1: they first had it. And then in the second wave

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Speaker 1: it mutated and that's when it came back in the

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Speaker 1: fall of twenty eighteen. The Spanish flu came back in

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Speaker 1: the fall of twenty eighteen and killed so many killed

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Speaker 1: so many people. It was a they call a w curve.

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Speaker 1: It was dangerous to the young, like flu always is

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Speaker 1: dangerous to the old. Also sam case dangerous in the

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Speaker 1: middle a lot of people twenty five to thirty five died.

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Speaker 1: Millions in that age range died, and I said twenty eighteen,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, nineteen eighteen. Spanish Full of nineteen eighteen, pardon me,

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Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. Guys. That was way off one hundred

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Speaker 1: years nineteen eighteen. Obviously First World War, but the Spanish

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Speaker 1: Full of nineteen eighteen had that w shape in the

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Speaker 1: with the way that the disease killed so many people,

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Speaker 1: and we're trying to learn lessons now about it. But

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Speaker 1: also as we talk about the experts, remember this. The

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Speaker 1: experts then thought, and then this was the height of

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Speaker 1: science at the time. They couldn't see viruses, Okay, they

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Speaker 1: weren't able to see viruses until the nineteen thirties. No

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Speaker 1: one could see viruses. We could see bacteria. So they

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Speaker 1: thought it was a kind of bacteria that they kept

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Speaker 1: finding in certain people that had this disease. But they

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Speaker 1: were they were wrong, and there were for the time

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Speaker 1: millions which would be obviously much more money in today's dollars,

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Speaker 1: millions of dollars spent trying to find a treatment for

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Speaker 1: a bacteria that was not the problem. And this was

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Speaker 1: the height of global medical expertise at the time. So

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Speaker 1: now I know our medical system has gotten a lot

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Speaker 1: more sophisticated since then. Obviously it's gotten a lot better

857
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Speaker 1: since then, but understand that there's still you know, when

858
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Speaker 1: you're talking about listen to the experts when something terrible

859
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: like this happens. If you go into the history of pandemics,

860
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: experts have always been not they needed to be in

861
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: terms of knowledge and ability to treat in a way

862
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Speaker 1: that I think is worth us remembering. Whether you're talking

863
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Speaker 1: abou cholera epidemics, you're talking about, you know, the Spanish

864
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 1: flow of nineteen eighteen, there's been a lack. Now, sometimes

865
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Speaker 1: we get a miracle breakthrough, but usually it is the

866
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 1: case that we have to suffer terribly and then they

867
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: manage to figure something out in time. And they usually

868
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: also started off with quite a bit of wrong knowledge

869
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 1: in trying to tell us how to fight against something.

870
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Speaker 1: You're in the Freedom hunt. This is the Buck Sexton

871
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 1: Show podcast. China has been unbelievably taken advantage of US

872
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 1: and other countries. You know, for instance, they're considered a

873
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 1: developing nation. I said, well, then make us a developing

874
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: nation too. They get big advantages because they're developing nation.

875
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:00,359
Speaker 1: India a developing nation. The United States is the big

876
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: developed nation. Well, we have plenty of development to do.

877
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: He's right that China has been taking advantage of us,

878
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 1: and this seems to have been explicit within the Chinese

879
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: Communist Party ranks. Their policy has been, Yeah, we'll pretend

880
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 1: to be friendly with America. We'll get as much as

881
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 1: we can out of them, and by the time they

882
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 1: realized what's going on, it would be too late. We'll

883
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: be too late. Understand that even in the early days

884
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Speaker 1: of the Soviet Union, there was a period when Stalin

885
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: Uncle Joe as he was called by by some in

886
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Speaker 1: the West, Stalin and you know if Stalin and FDR

887
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: and then Eisenhower, there was a warmth of friendliness in

888
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 1: the very early phase. That went away quite quickly as

889
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 1: we realized what we were dealing with. But we were

890
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: allies in that fight against the Nazis, and then we

891
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,240
Speaker 1: had to find out the hard way that the Soviets

892
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,439
Speaker 1: were not our friends, not a little bit, not even

893
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: a little bit. And with China, we're finding out that

894
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 1: this is they remember in the nineteen eighties, China was

895
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: overwhelmingly a country with peasant farmers, you know, subsistence level,

896
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: hundreds of millions of people living in in tremendous poverty,

897
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 1: and the policies of the Chinese government stretching back to

898
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: particularly through through Mao's era of the sixties and the seventies,

899
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: China was developmentally fifty years behind where the West was.

900
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a guess, but something like that. Right,

901
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 1: So when it's nineteen, when it's you know, the nineteen

902
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: seventies in the US, China developmentally is somewhere in like

903
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Speaker 1: the nineteen twenty nineteen thirties in terms of its economy.

904
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Speaker 1: And over the course of the in the starting in

905
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 1: the eighties into the nineties and the two thousands, China

906
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 1: had this explosion of wealth and productivity, and we kept thinking, oh,

907
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: this will be great for us, because if China becomes

908
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Speaker 1: wealthier and more prosperous, they'll become more Western, and they'll

909
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Speaker 1: become more friendly to our way of life, and they'll

910
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Speaker 1: be like a European, a European country, you know, where

911
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: we're never worried about what the UK is. The UK's

912
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: got nuked, We're never worried about the UK, right, don't

913
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 1: worry about them we seem to, and we don't worry

914
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 1: about the Japanese, even though we knoked them back in

915
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,760
Speaker 1: the day in a very different circumstance, right, But Japan

916
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: is a real ally now. We don't have concern I mean,

917
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Speaker 1: maybe some of you have concerns about what's going to

918
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Speaker 1: happen going forward with Japan and China, for example, but

919
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: we don't really worry about what Japan is going to

920
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:18,320
Speaker 1: do to us, or with South Korea is going to

921
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: do with us. I mean, these are countries that we

922
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: have a tremendous amount of faith and trust in that

923
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: they're there. They run on democratic institutions, and we see

924
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 1: the world in enough the same way that we're aligned.

925
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,320
Speaker 1: We wanted, we were told by the experts that China

926
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Speaker 1: was going to fall into that category, that China was

927
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: going to be like a much more populous version of Japan. Nope,

928
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: that is not happening. China wants to kick us off,

929
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: the kick us off the boat, kick us off the island,

930
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,959
Speaker 1: and take over. And we're just seeing, I think now

931
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 1: with greater clarity that reality as the Chinese government has

932
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 1: set in motion a series of events that will end

933
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 1: up killing certain hundreds of thousands of people around the

934
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,240
Speaker 1: world and destroy trillions and trillions of dollars of wealth.

935
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Speaker 1: Also that they would have an iron grip on power

936
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Speaker 1: in their own country. And that's what this really comes

937
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Speaker 1: down to. And if you look at the history of

938
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: communism in China, this is not surprising, and I know

939
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 1: it's not truly It's not a communist economy now, it's

940
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: really a command control It's a command control capitalist economy

941
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 1: with a communist political party set atop it. So it's

942
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: a hybrid model. But we did not see that. I

943
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 1: should say very few people saw this coming. This is

944
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 1: one area where you know, now everyone's jumping all over

945
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: Trump's saying that he was so slow to prepare for

946
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen, and they're going to say that no matter

947
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: when he prepared, no matter what he did. Right, we

948
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 1: know that. But if you look at what he's been

949
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: saying about China and how they're stealing from us, and

950
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,919
Speaker 1: it's wrong and it's bad. He was right on this

951
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: on the fundamentals of the single greatest geopolitical challenge and

952
00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:00,720
Speaker 1: national security and economic threat to the United States. Old Trump.

953
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,760
Speaker 1: As unorthodox as his style is, you know, he doesn't

954
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: have a PhD in economics, which very few people with

955
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 1: the PhD in economics are worth listening to. But anyway,

956
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,399
Speaker 1: he knew this on a gut level because he understands

957
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 1: he has an instinctual grasp of opponents and bullies and

958
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: opposition and enemy. He knows who the bad guys are.

959
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: One of the most simple things in foreign relations, simple

960
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 1: things in foreign policy that our own foreign policy intelligentsia

961
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,959
Speaker 1: has just no grasp of whatsoever. I mean, they're they're

962
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: wrong on that time and time again, whether it's the

963
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 1: Soviets or you know now dealing with the Communist Party China.

964
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: This is a very painful less than we are learning.

965
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 1: But Cold War two point zero with China's upon us

966
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: for sure. Thanks for listening to the bus sets and

967
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 1: show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts, the iHeartRadio app,

968
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:56,240
Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, my friends,

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Speaker 1: we have a special treat for you here, mister Jesse

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975
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976
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977
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Speaker 1: anywhere in the country. So good job, KPRC Houston. Mister

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Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly, how are you doing. I'm just I'm a

979
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 1: little different, but you know, I'm always good. Don't still

980
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:34,720
Speaker 1: I'm good, But I honestly feel like I'm watching a movie.

981
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:38,760
Speaker 1: Everything seems so absurd and unreal, and the whole world

982
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 1: seems like it's shifting around at once that I feel

983
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,399
Speaker 1: like I'm on the outside looking in on it. Does

984
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 1: that make sense? Yeah? I wake up every morning now

985
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 1: and you know, when you have had a nightmare, which

986
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: I don't know I if this is ever a thing

987
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: that you know, like maybe you wake up and you

988
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: think that you're all of a sudden, like tiny Jesse

989
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 1: instead of six foot nine, but you know, and then

990
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 1: you get to stand up and you're like, no, I'm

991
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: actually I'm actually this eyes of Andrea the Giant. Everything

992
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 1: is fine in the world. I wake up and in

993
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: some mornings it's like, oh my god, we're still in

994
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 1: this like this is actually we're still here right like?

995
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 1: This is still And I will say I had this

996
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,760
Speaker 1: a little bit sometimes in not an Afghanistan, but in Iraq.

997
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: I'd wake up. I'm like, I cannot believe I'm still

998
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,359
Speaker 1: in this place months into it. But let me ask

999
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 1: you this man, You've been one of the very few

1000
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: out there, and I've I've gone through phases, but I

1001
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,439
Speaker 1: just when I get enough, like death threats and people

1002
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 1: telling me that I'm destroying my career by saying that

1003
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 1: a great depression is bad for the economy, I kind

1004
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 1: of say, all right, I'm gonna I'm gonna just drink

1005
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 1: some tea and watch some Netflix. Now I've had enough.

1006
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 1: You're out there making the case about how damaging this

1007
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 1: thing is. So where are you now on that? I mean,

1008
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 1: we're we're six weeks or so into this lockdown. We're

1009
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 1: gonna be in this for at least another three weeks,

1010
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,839
Speaker 1: they're telling us. I think at least until it's gonna

1011
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 1: be mid May before any state's really open up, if that.

1012
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 1: But where do you think we are in terms of

1013
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 1: the economic pain? Oh? I think we're just seeing the

1014
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: very beginning of it. And that's that's why I've been

1015
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 1: so loud about it. And again, it's never that I

1016
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,399
Speaker 1: have said, law, it's just the virus is nothing, it's

1017
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 1: no big deal. Of course, it's serious. It's killing people.

1018
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:14,399
Speaker 1: It's a deadly pandemic. But a great depression is so

1019
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,840
Speaker 1: much worse than any virus could ever hope to be.

1020
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: We lost seven million people, and the last Great depression,

1021
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 1: that's when the population of the US was less than

1022
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 1: half of what it is now. Suicides, drug addiction, alcohol addictions,

1023
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 1: spousal abuse, child abuse, depressions, these things go through the

1024
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 1: roof when you have economic downturns like this, and the

1025
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 1: way people have talked about this, that's why I've been

1026
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 1: so loud about it. Now, I don't give a crap

1027
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: that everybody's mad at me. The reason I've been so

1028
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,320
Speaker 1: loud about it is you don't realize you made a

1029
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 1: mistake until we're there. I've been screaming from the rooftops

1030
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 1: because I want people to wake up now and then

1031
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 1: it's to be right, and then it's too late by

1032
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,839
Speaker 1: That's the problem is that once once everyone sees, oh,

1033
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 1: our currency is in freefall. You know, we we've printed

1034
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: too much money. We don't have the productivity behind the

1035
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 1: economy to back up the promises that we're making to

1036
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 1: ourselves or to the rest of the world. It's too

1037
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 1: late at that point. At that point, you can't do

1038
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 1: anything to put the genie back in the bottom. So

1039
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 1: that's why, that's why I feel like I'm living in

1040
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 1: that twilight zone that I was talking about, Buck. I mean,

1041
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 1: I can see this clear as day, and it blows

1042
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 1: me away that other people can't see this. And I

1043
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: get that viruses scare people in a unique way because

1044
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 1: you can't see them, you can't dodge them. If it's

1045
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 1: coming for you, you're gonna die. No one wants to

1046
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 1: die with their lungs filled up with fluid. I mean,

1047
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 1: it's terrible, it's absolutely terrible. But you can put a

1048
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: tangible cost on what a depression cost. We're at twenty

1049
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 1: million unemploy point easily already, Buck, So it's sixteen just

1050
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: short of seventeen million officially. That means all the ten

1051
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 1: ninety nine people, all the small businesses, all the people

1052
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 1: who haven't been able to get through, were easily over

1053
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 1: twenty million. Another three weeks. That puts us at forty.

1054
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 1: Because businesses are going to be running out of capital

1055
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: as they go along, and that increases exponentially, they're just

1056
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 1: going to keep running out and declaring bankrupts. See forty

1057
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 1: million families that can't feed themselves, then they can't pay bills. Now,

1058
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 1: the reverberations of that are staggering, and I'm shocked it

1059
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 1: was ever even considered. It's not just that we're doing it.

1060
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 1: I'm shocked anyone ever considered it. It is the dumbest

1061
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: thing that's been universally accepted I've ever seen in my

1062
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 1: entire life. I also don't and I really mean this,

1063
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 1: and I can sound like it sounds ridiculous until you

1064
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 1: think about it. But if the standard is shutting down

1065
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Speaker 1: the economy means less spread of a respiratory virus, which

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00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 1: means less people will get that virus, and therefore some

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00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 1: will die, you know, some degree less will die from that.

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Speaker 1: And if it's not that big of a deal, I

1069
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 1: don't understand why we don't shut the economy down for

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00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 1: two months every year so that we avoid flu deaths,

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00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 1: which are, as we know, twenty thirty forty thousand year.

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00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 1: By the way, even if this was the worst case

1073
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 1: scenario that we've even seen, that this is gonna be

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00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 1: five hundred thousand deaths. Well, any death is unacceptable, which

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00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 1: is what we're being told from this, and the economy

1076
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. It seems to me like every year we

1077
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 1: should shut down for at least sixty to ninety days.

1078
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 1: Why not have the government right everybody checks, give us

1079
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 1: a vacation. I'm glad you brought that up because that

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00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 1: leads me to my next big concern. And this is

1081
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 1: probably the biggest concern. It's not just what we're going

1082
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 1: through now. We know we're going to go through this

1083
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 1: right now, and it's going to be brutal, and I

1084
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 1: have some grave concerns over how brutal it's going to be.

1085
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 1: But did we just open up Pandora's box? Buck? Tell me,

1086
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 1: did we just tell all the people in this country

1087
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 1: and the government that the next time anything breaks out,

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00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 1: the solution is locked everyone in their houses. Because if

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00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 1: that's the solution from now till the end of time,

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00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 1: I guarantee you one thing on top of what just

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00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 1: may happen. By chance, the Chinese are watching our response

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00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 1: to this too, And if I'm the Chinese government and

1093
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 1: I have published a paper publicly saying they want to

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00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 1: dominate the world by twenty fifty and replace US as

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00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 1: the superpower. And I see that the world's largest economy

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00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 1: will line up in small businesses and fireable and into

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01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 1: their heads the second of virus comes out. I know

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01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 1: what I'm doing. My bioweapons labs are going to be

1099
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 1: working over time because I'm going to figure out a

1100
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 1: way to exploit that we have shown the entire world.

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01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 1: We will become paralyzed with fear the next time we

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01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 1: get sick, and that might be more dangerous than what

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01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 1: we're actually going through current. Right before you came on,

1104
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 1: I was talking about how this has kicked off and

1105
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 1: every news understand this is the new Cold War, and

1106
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 1: we were being told that it was going to be

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01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 1: between Russia and the US because of crazy Libs who

1108
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: can't accept that Hillary loss. That was ridiculous. Russia's economies

1109
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 1: about a trillion dollars a year in total, Russia as

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01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 1: a complete paper tiger. There was no way that Russia

1111
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 1: was really going to oppose us in any meaningful way

1112
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 1: on the world stage. It has been China to anyone

1113
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 1: paying attention, and now that conflict is not only unavoidable

1114
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 1: in terms of people's recognition, but I think unavoidable when

1115
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 1: you look at the trajectory of US policy and US

1116
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 1: economic struggles around the world. And I would ask you

1117
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 1: this though, there's a separation that is very that is

1118
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 1: very apparent between those who continue to work and get paid,

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01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 1: which those in the media. They're going to figure out

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01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 1: the very big fish, the people that are you know,

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01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 1: millionaires doing shows from their homes. Yeah, Okay, they're going

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01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 1: to continue to They'll be fine. First of all, they'll

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01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 1: be fine if they stop working tomorrow, right. I mean

1124
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 1: a lot of them just keep doing this out of ego.

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01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 1: But even if they even if they were to continue,

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01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 1: the other people in those organizations are going to lose jobs.

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01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 1: Advertising is going to be way way down. The media

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01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 1: is going to get hit, but not yet. Right, most

1129
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 1: people in the media still have jobs. Politicians still get paychecks.

1130
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 1: I think it's not the pain of the economic shutdown

1131
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 1: is not real to the people with the loudest voices

1132
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 1: and the biggest platforms. For the most part, what are

1133
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 1: small business owners that you talk to telling you about

1134
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 1: what they are facing right now? Like, give us some

1135
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 1: it's anecdotes, But anecdotes matter when you're talking about human

1136
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 1: beings in their lives. Well, but that's who I'm surrounded by.

1137
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I don't live in DC, I

1138
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 1: don't live in New York City, even though I love

1139
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 1: both those, because they just don't. I'm surrounded by business

1140
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 1: people and two women. Each and every one of them

1141
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 1: is scared to death, wants to open back up tomorrow,

1142
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 1: thinks this entire thing has been overblown and they're desperate

1143
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 1: now to pay their bills because I have, Like I said,

1144
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 1: I know a bunch of them. One friend of mine

1145
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 1: I told this story a little while ago. He owns

1146
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 1: a large retailer of an item people own a lot

1147
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 1: of and it's expensive, and they have one of the

1148
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 1: best business models I've ever seen. His dad was a

1149
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 1: super genius business guy and helped them set everything up.

1150
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 1: Long story short, this is a small business that was

1151
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 1: the next big thing. These guys were heading towards being

1152
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:35,479
Speaker 1: billionaires when some guy with a bunch of money comes

1153
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 1: and buys them out. Their books were solid, cash reserves,

1154
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 1: proper investments, I mean solid. They are now under two

1155
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 1: weeks and they're about to fire everybody they have and

1156
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 1: close their company. That is a solid business and I mean,

1157
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 1: some of the most solid financial books I've ever seen

1158
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 1: in my entire life. We're not even talking about the vulnerable,

1159
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 1: vulnerable businesses or the businesses banking on one big contract

1160
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 1: that wasn't going to come out. These people are drowning,

1161
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 1: and not only that, and no one wants to talk

1162
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 1: about this because it makes it sound like you're you're

1163
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 1: your your callous towards the people who died. But right now, buck,

1164
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 1: if we're talking forty million unemployed, which is not in

1165
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 1: any way unrealistic, forty million unemployed by the end of

1166
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 1: April four, twenty thousand dead. Thirty thousand dead. Now that's

1167
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 1: a huge number. That's a huge number. But that juice

1168
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 1: is not worth the squeeze. And the point is, we

1169
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 1: live in a social media world now where we people

1170
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 1: will say stupid things like if it saves one life,

1171
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 1: that is the dumbest freaking thing I've ever heard of

1172
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 1: in my entire life. As a leader, president, governor, mayor,

1173
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 1: you have to sit down all the time and make

1174
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 1: decisions like this. You have to decide, Okay, is this

1175
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 1: gonna kill five million Americans or thirty thousand Americans, Because

1176
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 1: that's two very, very different things, And the truth is,

1177
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 1: we've put all of our eggs into the virus basket

1178
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 1: and we're paying for it. That guy, Alex Barrenson, the

1179
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 1: former New York Times supporter, who's getting a lot of

1180
01:03:57,920 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 1: a lot of attention for being willing to crunch the

1181
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 1: nus and just tell people what the numbers actually say,

1182
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 1: even when the numbers don't line up with what the

1183
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 1: specific narrative may be from the consensus from the experts

1184
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 1: at any given time. I had an exchange with them.

1185
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 1: I said, are you seeing anybody who and I know

1186
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 1: you follow him too, And look, the guy's been on

1187
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 1: Tucker Show a bunch. He's getting a lot of people

1188
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 1: to pay attention to his work, as well as people

1189
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 1: that are saying that he's a truther, and he's you know,

1190
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 1: he wants everyone to die. His wife works in healthcare

1191
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 1: and is treating COVID patients. But they're saying he wants

1192
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 1: everyone to die and he's terrible. But I asked him,

1193
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 1: I said, have you seen anyone come up with an

1194
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 1: economic model for this? He says, no, everyone's just looking

1195
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 1: at the stock market and assuming that everything's going to

1196
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 1: snap back into place. And I didn't get a chance

1197
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 1: to tell him this yet. But I'm gonna say this

1198
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 1: to you. There are no models. I mean to the

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01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 1: point about your friend's business. Yeah, there's seasonality to businesses.

1200
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 1: You can have new competition, you can have supply chain disruption,

1201
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 1: you can have no one ever anticipates, no matter how

1202
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 1: healthy your business in is zero right shutdown like this.

1203
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 1: No one ever thinks that that's something that you would

1204
01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 1: factor into your cash flow to your long term capital needs,

1205
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 1: short term capital needs. No one thinks that that's pot me.

1206
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 1: You know, if you have a terrible season, maybe your

1207
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 1: sales are down twenty thirty percent, No one thinks they

1208
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 1: go to zero for a quarter. What businesses are built

1209
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 1: to handle that? None? To your point, none, This is

1210
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 1: going to hit small and big, and again keep in mind,

1211
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 1: they shouldn't ever have to factor that in, Buck, because

1212
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 1: this never happens. People keep making comparisons between this and

1213
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 1: the recession we just had not too long ago, two

1214
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 1: thousand and seven to two thousand and nine. This is

1215
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 1: nothing like that. If only one part, like a financial

1216
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 1: bubble bursts, that hurts and people are going to feel that.

1217
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 1: But when you haven't stopped the economy from moving, people

1218
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:43,919
Speaker 1: move around. People adjust, they invest in different things. When

1219
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 1: you've pointed your finger at huge parts of society and

1220
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:49,720
Speaker 1: said you will stop working and go home and be poor,

1221
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 1: you've left them no opportunity. They have no ability to adjust,

1222
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 1: and so you've you've effectively killed them. Even if they

1223
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 1: dropped their labor costs to zero, which sadly most of

1224
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 1: them have had to do, you'll have a lot of

1225
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 1: other costs. You have overhead, you have taxes, you have utilities,

1226
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:08,439
Speaker 1: you have floor planning. Like if you're a large car

1227
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 1: or RV dealer, you don't buy those outright. Most of

1228
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 1: the time you borrow those from a big bank. You're

1229
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 1: paying interest on four million dollars worth of inventory that

1230
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:20,120
Speaker 1: now you're not moving any You're finished like that. If

1231
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 1: you drop revenues to zero, no business can survive like that.

1232
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 1: And this is where we get to the debate over

1233
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 1: when to reopen. This is going to get very nasty,

1234
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 1: as you know, Jesse, both from people that in good

1235
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 1: faith believe that you know, shutdown is the only way

1236
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 1: to save lives, and that's all that matters. But then

1237
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 1: there are a lot of people that are honestly viewing

1238
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 1: this as the best opportunity they have not just to

1239
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 1: beat Donald Trump, by the way, that's a big part

1240
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 1: of it, but also to rub all of the supporters

1241
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 1: faces in it. You know, there's a there's a lot

1242
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 1: of people that have been making noise for years, but

1243
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 1: a terrible Trump is and the terribleness of this situation,

1244
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:55,960
Speaker 1: while it is global and not limited to the United States,

1245
01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 1: for them is a vindication of what they've been saying

1246
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 1: all along about Trump, which is sick and messed up.

1247
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 1: But that's clearly where their head is. Where do you

1248
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 1: think we should go? Do you do you have a

1249
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 1: timeline in mind or a plan in mind, or you

1250
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 1: just know that this can't I mean, I think we

1251
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 1: agree this can't continue. So what happens then? Yeah, my

1252
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 1: timeline was yesterday. In fact, my timeline was about three

1253
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 1: weeks ago. But here's the problem. Bug. Once we've once

1254
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 1: again to use the term Pandora's box. Once we've told

1255
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 1: the American people and we did this. We did this,

1256
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 1: We pointed our figure in America and we said you

1257
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 1: can either be safe from the virus and hide at home,

1258
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:33,440
Speaker 1: or you can be engraved danger and go back to work.

1259
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:36,400
Speaker 1: You can't put that Genie back in the lamp. That

1260
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 1: doesn't work that way. Now we're going to tell people

1261
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 1: to open up and go back to work, and people

1262
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 1: are going to look around, and rightfully so, especially when

1263
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 1: you're scared or maybe I haven't done all the reading

1264
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 1: on it, and you look and say, WHOA, I can't

1265
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 1: go back to work. I'm going to die. How are

1266
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:52,560
Speaker 1: you supposed to convince them otherwise? You just told them that.

1267
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 1: As soon as you present to the public that the

1268
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 1: solution is to go home and hide under your bed,

1269
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:01,439
Speaker 1: then the public assumes that's the solution. Oh, we didn't

1270
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 1: even mention the second wave. Everyone's heard about the Spanish Flu.

1271
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 1: I have bad news for everybody. Wasn't the first wave

1272
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:09,960
Speaker 1: that really killed ye people hardly and he died. I

1273
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 1: swear Jesse was not wave that got him. Jesse was

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Speaker 1: not listening to the show before we brought him. You're

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Speaker 1: talking about China. Secondly, with Spanish Flu, it's like Jesse,

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Speaker 1: We're two men who are simpatico on the analysis here.

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Speaker 1: Everybody should check out Jesse Kelly's show. You can download

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Speaker 1: him on various various platforms for podcasts, also on Pluto TV.

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Speaker 1: I'm right with Jesse Kelly as the show. He is

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Speaker 1: the man himself. Mister Jesse Kelly, thanks for making the

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Speaker 1: time first and let's let's hope that America continues to

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Speaker 1: survive so that we can keep having on the show.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Well, thank you. You're in the Freedom Hud.

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Speaker 1: This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. You said that

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Speaker 1: African Americans and Latino should avoid alcohol, drugs, in tobacco.

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Speaker 1: He'll say, do it for you, arm well, and do

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Speaker 1: it for Big Mama and pop popping. There are some people,

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Speaker 1: there are some people online that are already offended by

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Speaker 1: that language and the idea that you're saying behaviors might

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Speaker 1: be leading to these high death rates. Could you talk

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Speaker 1: about whether or not people could you, I guess have

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Speaker 1: a responsor people who might be offended by the language

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Speaker 1: that he used. Well, I use that language because that's

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Speaker 1: the language. I'd been meeting with the NAACP, with the

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Speaker 1: National Medical Association, with others. I actually talked with Derek

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Speaker 1: Johnson multiple times this week, the head of the LEACP,

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Speaker 1: and we need targeted outreach to the African American community.

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Speaker 1: And I use the language that is used in my family.

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Speaker 1: I have a Puerto Rican brother in law. I call

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Speaker 1: my granddaddy granddaddy. I have relatives who call their their

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Speaker 1: grandparents big mama, So that was not meant to be offensive.

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Speaker 1: That's the language that we use and that I use,

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Speaker 1: and we need to continue to target our outreach to

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Speaker 1: those communities. It is critically important that they understand it's

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Speaker 1: not just about them, and I was very clear about that,

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Speaker 1: it's not just about what you do. But you also

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Speaker 1: are not helpless. We need to do our part at

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Speaker 1: the federal level. We need people to do their parts

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Speaker 1: at the state level, and we need everyone black, brown, white,

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Speaker 1: whatever color you are, to follow the President's guidelines, the

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Speaker 1: coronavirus guidelines. The media is really so helpful. There. You

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Speaker 1: have Surgeon General Jerome Adams, who is African American, asked

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Speaker 1: by a female minority reporter if his language is too

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Speaker 1: familiar and offensive to the minority community. Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 1: The journals are there in the West wing to make

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Speaker 1: sure that the African American surgeon general who's trying to

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Speaker 1: save lives doesn't use language that a Democrat African American

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Speaker 1: surgeon general would certainly be allowed to use. But you

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Speaker 1: can't work for Trump even if you are black. Apparently

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Speaker 1: the journalists think you cannot work for Trump and use

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Speaker 1: language familiar within the black community, within the Hispanic community. Oh,

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Speaker 1: that's right, our black surgeon general is racist. I guess

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Speaker 1: they want you to think. Thanks for listening to the

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Speaker 1: Bus Sesson Show podcast. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts,

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Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get your podcasts. I

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Speaker 1: wanted to update you on the status of the public

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Speaker 1: the public case. It's not a criminal case, but the

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Speaker 1: allegation against Joe Biden for a sexual assault by a

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Speaker 1: woman named Tara Reid. The New York Times over the

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Speaker 1: weekend did a story on this. They finally, I think

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Speaker 1: the story came out on Easter Sunday, almost like they

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Speaker 1: were hoping that it wouldn't land with that much effect.

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Speaker 1: People were doing other things. I was. I watched church

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Speaker 1: service on Easter Sunday, so the best that I could do.

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Speaker 1: Churches here in New York are all closed. But Biden

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Speaker 1: has been accused of by a woman who was on

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Speaker 1: his staff for a short while in the nineteen nineties,

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Speaker 1: and he is accused of forcible penetration, which is depending

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Speaker 1: on this state. I mean, they use different verbiage for

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Speaker 1: its certainly sexual assault. Some states would classify that as

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Speaker 1: a type of rape, others classified specifically sexual assault. The

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Speaker 1: same idea, it's it's a felony criminal offense, and force

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Speaker 1: penetration is a serious, a serious crime. So remember the

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Speaker 1: initial allegation against that that blasi Ford brought against Cavanall

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Speaker 1: was that he held her down and then tried to

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Speaker 1: like reach under her bathing suit or something like that,

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Speaker 1: if I recall. But there was no actual there was

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Speaker 1: no actual allegation of penetration. It was effectively a claims.

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Speaker 1: She was making the claim, the allegation that he was

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Speaker 1: going to do that, but it never actually happened. Okay,

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Speaker 1: with Biden, she's saying that it happened. She's saying that

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Speaker 1: he's straight up physically penetrated her in a way that

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Speaker 1: is a felony, criminal sexual assault. That that is what happened.

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Speaker 1: And the media has been very quiet on this, very

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Speaker 1: quiet on this. And here's one of the problems that

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Speaker 1: they face. Not only one of their favorite ways to

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Speaker 1: try and shout down and shut up Trump supporters is

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Speaker 1: just to say, oh, Trump is a he's a rapist,

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Speaker 1: or you know, he grabbed them by the blank and

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Speaker 1: listened to that audio, and he's so terrible with women.

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Speaker 1: And you've heard this so many times from them, and

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Speaker 1: they believe in general this is just a ticket to

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Speaker 1: the moral high ground for them. All all they have

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Speaker 1: to do is say, any of you know is point

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Speaker 1: out Trump said this, did this, And doesn't matter what

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Speaker 1: you're arguing about or talking about, you support Trump, Who's

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Speaker 1: a sexual predator. That's what they will say. Now, keep

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Speaker 1: in mind Bill Clinton was clearly a sexual predator, an

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Speaker 1: actual sexual predator, and a man credibly accused of rape,

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Speaker 1: and they had no problem with that, never mind the

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Speaker 1: stuff in the Oval officers. So we know that they

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Speaker 1: have no principles, right, We know that the left just

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Speaker 1: makes it up as they go along with this. It

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Speaker 1: makes them feel good to make these allegations. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: we've established that. But you add to this a problem

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Speaker 1: here that they're not going to be able to easily

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Speaker 1: walk away from, at least not while people like me

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Speaker 1: still draw breath in this world. And that is the

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Speaker 1: standard that they set up, not just by attacking Trump,

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Speaker 1: but specifically the Kavanaugh standard and the way that me

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Speaker 1: too was weaponized for very obvious partisan reasons to try

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Speaker 1: to destroy Brett Kavanaugh, make sure that he could not

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Speaker 1: go and become a Supreme Court justice. Largely, but not solely,

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Speaker 1: this was the left's last ditch defense of Roe v. Wade.

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Speaker 1: That's what was really going on. That was why they

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Speaker 1: were willing to do this, to go to these lengths

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Speaker 1: and to destroy a man who did nothing wrong. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't just think that Brett Kavanaugh could not have

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Speaker 1: been proven guilty. I think that Brett Kavanaugh was innocent,

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Speaker 1: innocent of the allegations, innocent of the charges wholly and entirely.

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Speaker 1: And the issue that the Left is going to have

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Speaker 1: now is that you have with Biden, who we know. Remember,

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Speaker 1: this isn't happening in a vacuum. Biden is a creepy, gropy,

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Speaker 1: hair sniffing, back padding head kissing weirdo that was established

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Speaker 1: about what over a year ago. We've known that for

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Speaker 1: a while. Media was totally quiet about it. During the

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Speaker 1: Obama years. This guy would walk up to and I

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Speaker 1: don't look, I've been in a lot of professional settings

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Speaker 1: in a lot of places, and the idea that I

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Speaker 1: would walk up to a woman, an adult woman that

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Speaker 1: I do not know, you know, that is not my

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Speaker 1: wife or my significant other, and put my hands on

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Speaker 1: her shoulders, sniff her hair and kiss the top of

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Speaker 1: her head before going out to give a speech in

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Speaker 1: front of people is completely Bonker's level insane. That would

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Speaker 1: never happen. Biden did that and does lots of stuff

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Speaker 1: like that. Biden is a gropy grabbe creepy dude. But

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Speaker 1: for a long time it seemed that they were trying

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Speaker 1: to set this up like, no, well, this is just

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Speaker 1: like he's old, and it doesn't but he's not that old. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: he's still still on top of his game. He's still

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Speaker 1: you know, it'll challenge you to a push up contest

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Speaker 1: and all this other stuff. I mean, he's not that old,

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Speaker 1: but but he's old, so he's a little bit of that,

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Speaker 1: A little bit of that was the defense. But in

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Speaker 1: the nineties he wasn't an old man. He was a

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Speaker 1: guy who was in a powerful position. And this woman

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Speaker 1: has claimed that he sexually assaulted her. And here's the

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Speaker 1: issue for the left. They adhered to a standard that

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Speaker 1: they now absolutely or they've abandoned already, which is that

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Speaker 1: all that it takes is the allegation. The allegation is

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Speaker 1: enough all these centers. I don't just mean the media,

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Speaker 1: I mean I mean Kamala Harris, I mean the women Democrats,

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Speaker 1: I mean Schumer, the women Democrats on the Senate, and

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Speaker 1: Schumer and others who were making this case that just

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Speaker 1: because he's a used Kavanaughs accused, let's move on to

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Speaker 1: someone else. He can't he can't represent the interests of

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Speaker 1: all Americans because he can't be trusted by women. He

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Speaker 1: can't be on the Supreme Court. The allegation was enough

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Speaker 1: for punishment for the ruination of reputation. That was the standard.

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Speaker 1: And it's easy to see. Just do a basic Google

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Speaker 1: search and you will see. All that it takes is

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Speaker 1: the allegation. All that it takes is the claim. What

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Speaker 1: happens now, They set that standard. They they decided that

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Speaker 1: that was what was going to be, and that was

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Speaker 1: what was necessary for you to be a moral and ethical,

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Speaker 1: a decent person. During the Kavanof fight, the ugliest political

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Speaker 1: fight I've ever seen, although I think that this fight

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Speaker 1: over reopening is going to be really ugly too, But

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Speaker 1: the Kavanof fight was. It was rough. It was as

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Speaker 1: rough as it gets. One of the few times I've

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Speaker 1: seen televised proceeding of the United States Congress and actually

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01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:08,599
Speaker 1: felt myself sickened, sickened. But they got a problem now

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01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:11,120
Speaker 1: because they ran through their whole list of candidates and

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Speaker 1: they're a bunch of a bunch of radicals, know nothings

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01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:17,679
Speaker 1: and imbeciles. So they went with the default candidate, Joe Biden.

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Speaker 1: And now there's a credible on the record, and she

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Speaker 1: went and she swore at a police statement, a credible

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Speaker 1: sexual assault allegation against Joe Biden. The allegation is supposed

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Speaker 1: to be enough, if not for criminal penalty, certainly enough

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Speaker 1: to keep somebody out of power in public life. That

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Speaker 1: is what the That was the argument they made against Kavanaugh,

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Speaker 1: and they're abandoning it now because they have no principles,

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01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:43,719
Speaker 1: They have no decency, they have no honor. The left

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01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:47,840
Speaker 1: is a dishonorable political ideology. Whatever they have to do,

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Speaker 1: whenever they have to do it. That's I would like

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Speaker 1: another explanation for what's going on here. How can they

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Speaker 1: have Joe Biden be there? Remember, on the right, we've

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Speaker 1: always said we need more evidence. You know. One of

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Speaker 1: the reasons that I've been willing to support Trump through

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Speaker 1: a lot of the allegations against him is I'm willing

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Speaker 1: to say I don't believe the accusers. I'm willing to

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Speaker 1: say I don't believe the allegations against Kavanaugh. For example,

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Speaker 1: I think that they're either confused or lying the people.

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Speaker 1: The third woman definitely lying, the second woman's confused, and

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Speaker 1: the first woman I think is just emotionally distraught, and

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Speaker 1: I think she's a liar too, But I can't really

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Speaker 1: prove that one. I'm willing to say that. I'm not

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Speaker 1: willing to say, yeah, I think it's true, but I

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Speaker 1: don't care, which is really what you think. Democrats who

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Speaker 1: have said women have a right to be believed, what

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Speaker 1: they're really saying now is, well, yeah, even if Biden did,

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Speaker 1: that doesn't matter too much at stake too much power.

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Speaker 1: And that then brings you to this sentence. And the

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Speaker 1: New York Times did have to They had to change this.

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Speaker 1: They initially stealth edited it, and then too many people

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Speaker 1: figured it out, and so then they had to an

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Speaker 1: update later. But here is the New York Times. The

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Speaker 1: York Times published this sentence quote. This was about remember

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Speaker 1: Tara Reid accuses Biden of sexual assault in nineteen ninety three.

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Speaker 1: I think it is, and it gives a very clear

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01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:10,479
Speaker 1: explanation of what happened. She was on his staff, they

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01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 1: were in close quarters, they were alone together. Sometimes there's

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01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 1: there is nothing to prove that this did not happen,

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01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:20,479
Speaker 1: whereas with Kavanaugh, for example, nobody remembered this party. She

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01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:22,320
Speaker 1: couldn't prove she'd ever met him. No one even thought

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01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:24,160
Speaker 1: they were together, no one ever thought they were alone.

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01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 1: She didn't remember how she got home. She didn't remember

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01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:28,040
Speaker 1: anything other than, oh, yeah, this guy who is going

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01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 1: to be the vote to overturn Roe V. Wade happened

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Speaker 1: to try to sexually assault me, like fifty years ago whatever,

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01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:35,640
Speaker 1: thirty some MOI years ago. Yeah, that was That was

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01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:39,559
Speaker 1: the story we're given with this one staffer back in

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01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:43,120
Speaker 1: the nineties. Biden's a weird hair sniff Is Kavanaugh weird

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01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:47,400
Speaker 1: hair sniffing, gropy creepy man? No, Kavanaugh is the guy

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01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:50,559
Speaker 1: you want coaching your girls high school basketball team on

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01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:54,400
Speaker 1: the weekends as he does. There's there's no woman who's

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01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:56,720
Speaker 1: ever worked for Kavanaugh says that he's a creepster. No

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01:20:56,840 --> 01:20:59,280
Speaker 1: woman who works for Kavanaugh says that he's a gropy weirdo.

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Speaker 1: What do they say about Biden. Here is the New

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01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:07,640
Speaker 1: York Times running defense, running defense of Biden. This is

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01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:10,960
Speaker 1: the best they could come up with. They published this

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01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:16,479
Speaker 1: sentence in the New York Times. It's remarkable quote. We

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01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 1: found no pattern of sexual misconic by Biden beyond hugs,

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01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:30,280
Speaker 1: kisses and touching that women said made them uncomfortable. Oh oh,

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01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:34,439
Speaker 1: other than kisses and touches and hugs that women didn't want.

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01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:40,200
Speaker 1: Nothing weird going on with this guy. This guy's a

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01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:42,720
Speaker 1: long pattern of doing this. We all know this. Then

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01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:44,680
Speaker 1: York Times is like, yeah, but I mean other than that,

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01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:48,040
Speaker 1: other than kissing women who didn't want to be kissed,

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01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:53,960
Speaker 1: No big deal. Yeah, the New York Times got pillaried,

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01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:58,400
Speaker 1: got just lamb based it over this one. And it's

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01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:02,320
Speaker 1: absolutely as resolutely the right thing. But this is how

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01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:04,720
Speaker 1: desperate they are. This is out that they know they

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01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:09,439
Speaker 1: can't run the geriatric socialist Bernie. They've already've already told us,

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01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:11,559
Speaker 1: what are they gonna tell the American people? Now, yeah,

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01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:14,080
Speaker 1: we had to have the DNC bail on the socialist,

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01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:16,720
Speaker 1: But no, tots, he's a great idea. Let's go for

1519
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:19,559
Speaker 1: that now now that things have changed a little bit.

1520
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:22,760
Speaker 1: That's not gonna fly. They know that's not gonna fly.

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01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:26,800
Speaker 1: That's right. We found no pattern of sexual misconic by

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01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:29,479
Speaker 1: Biden beyond hugs, kisses, and touching that women said made

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01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 1: them uncomfortable. Oh okay, that sounds just fine, doesn't it.

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01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:36,759
Speaker 1: They had to delete that the way that they deleted

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01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:38,360
Speaker 1: that sentence, that came up with something else to make

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01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:40,599
Speaker 1: it seem a little bit less like yeah, I mean,

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01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:41,720
Speaker 1: you know, it's say he's a little bit of a

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01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:45,080
Speaker 1: grabber and a smoocher without without without consent, I mean,

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01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 1: you know who doesn't who doesn't? Right? That's that was

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01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:49,080
Speaker 1: the New York time when Biden's an issue, that's how

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01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:53,639
Speaker 1: they approach it. Keep in mind, I know somebody from

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01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:55,840
Speaker 1: the secret server side who will tell stories, And this

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01:22:55,920 --> 01:22:57,840
Speaker 1: came out in a book, and it's true. Biden used

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01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:01,000
Speaker 1: to think that it was appropriate to strip completely naked

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01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:03,400
Speaker 1: and go swimming in front of females on his secret

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01:23:03,439 --> 01:23:06,559
Speaker 1: service detail. Let me tell you something. If my wife

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01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:10,920
Speaker 1: or girlfriend were on biden secret service detail and this guy,

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01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:14,439
Speaker 1: when he's vice president, thinks that it's appropriate to strip

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01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:17,479
Speaker 1: down totally, nobody wants to see that. Nobody wants to

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01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 1: see that. All right that it is. Really there's really

1541
01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 1: very little difference, given that they're assigned to him their

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01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:27,599
Speaker 1: jobs or protect him in the home. You know, if

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01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:30,320
Speaker 1: you had an assistant, if you had a secretary in

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01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:32,400
Speaker 1: the home and you were walking around, you came out

1545
01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:34,599
Speaker 1: of the shower, you're just walking around naked saying, hey,

1546
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:37,960
Speaker 1: you the time to dictate some stuff to you, everybody

1547
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:40,519
Speaker 1: would know that was That's like the Charlie Rose maneuver, right,

1548
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:42,800
Speaker 1: another guy that the Libs protected and covered up her

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01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 1: for years and years. I had heard through the great

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01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:46,920
Speaker 1: find that guy who was a creepster back when I

1551
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:49,280
Speaker 1: was an intern at CBS Seeming News It's like twenty

1552
01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:51,720
Speaker 1: years ago. But oh no, no, no no one knew that

1553
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 1: Charlie Rose was a grabby creepster. This is what I mean,

1554
01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:57,679
Speaker 1: folks and the left, they pretend to care so much

1555
01:23:57,680 --> 01:24:03,160
Speaker 1: about about, you know, outing predators and protecting women, and

1556
01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:07,559
Speaker 1: that's all that's all for show when the politics get involved,

1557
01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:10,479
Speaker 1: because all of a sudden, now Joe Biden is getting

1558
01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:13,960
Speaker 1: a pass and then some and given what they were

1559
01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:16,400
Speaker 1: willing to say about Kavanaugh, I mean, these people cannot

1560
01:24:16,439 --> 01:24:21,960
Speaker 1: any journalist that you see who was who was anti Kavanaugh.

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01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:25,080
Speaker 1: He shouldn't be confirmed because of those allegations. Who thinks

1562
01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:28,320
Speaker 1: that Joe Biden should be president is a hack without principles,

1563
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:33,800
Speaker 1: is an iron collad rule. This is far far more

1564
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:37,240
Speaker 1: compelling of an allegation, far more likely to have occurred

1565
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:39,400
Speaker 1: than the Blasi forward. Now, people could say the three

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01:24:39,439 --> 01:24:42,000
Speaker 1: women who came forward, yeah, the second and the third

1567
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 1: were laughable, preposterous, no one believes them. And there were

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01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 1: others who came forward too, that that should have been

1569
01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 1: criminally prosecuted for following a false report. Women that even

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01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:54,160
Speaker 1: the Democrats in the Senate by though this didn't come

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01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:56,639
Speaker 1: out as much during the Kavanaugh hearing, there were women

1572
01:24:56,640 --> 01:24:57,960
Speaker 1: who were like, yeah, he raped me on a boat

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01:24:58,000 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 1: in Rhode Island. Turned out he had never even been

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01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:01,439
Speaker 1: in the Rhode Island at that point in his life,

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01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:03,760
Speaker 1: So pretty sure he didn't rape somebody in the state

1576
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:05,800
Speaker 1: he's never been to. But there were people came forward

1577
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:09,240
Speaker 1: like that. We all know, we all know that there

1578
01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:14,560
Speaker 1: were lies being told about Kavanaugh. So what exactly is

1579
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 1: the exit plan here for Democrats just gonna gaslight you?

1580
01:25:18,160 --> 01:25:19,879
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we didn't do that whole thing with Kavanaugh.

1581
01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:21,920
Speaker 1: Women have a right to be believed. That wasn't our position.

1582
01:25:22,479 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 1: They're just gonna lie to you. They're just gonna lie

1583
01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:27,439
Speaker 1: to you. It's disgusting, isn't it. This is why people

1584
01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:29,639
Speaker 1: don't trust the press, and why they shouldn't trust the press.

1585
01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:33,400
Speaker 1: No ethics, no decency, just power, a lust for power

1586
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:37,839
Speaker 1: and approval and access and money. That's what really motivates

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01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:43,639
Speaker 1: the left, certainly not protecting women. That's for sure. You're

1588
01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:47,400
Speaker 1: in the freedom Hud. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast.

1589
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:53,200
Speaker 1: There's no question there'll be a lot of changes to

1590
01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:56,320
Speaker 1: our lives in the well. There's changes already, but there'll

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01:25:56,360 --> 01:26:00,360
Speaker 1: be changes that last a long time, changes of perceptions

1592
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 1: of habit. We're all going to be adjusting. There's an

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01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:07,639
Speaker 1: adaptation that is going on here in real time for America,

1594
01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:10,040
Speaker 1: for the whole world, but let's focus on it here

1595
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 1: at home. James Altucher is a guy I don't know,

1596
01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:16,599
Speaker 1: but i've seen his work before. I know people who

1597
01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:18,920
Speaker 1: know him. They say he's a smart guy. He had

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01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:20,519
Speaker 1: a thread that I wanted to share with you just

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01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:23,840
Speaker 1: as part of our continuing conversation to give us perspective

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01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:26,960
Speaker 1: about what's happening right now in this world a pandemic,

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01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:28,479
Speaker 1: and how we're all trying to process and how we're

1602
01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:30,639
Speaker 1: trying to deal with this figure out what's really going on.

1603
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:34,960
Speaker 1: He wrote, COVID nineteen has shown us what the myths

1604
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:38,640
Speaker 1: of society are and now they're quickly unraveling. And then

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01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:40,839
Speaker 1: he had a list of myths that COVID is shining

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01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:43,760
Speaker 1: its light on, something I thought were very interesting and

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01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:47,439
Speaker 1: some of them I definitely agree with. Here's one myth,

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01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:52,440
Speaker 1: myth number one, you have to be dishonest to be successful.

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01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:56,920
Speaker 1: Success in today's environment doesn't mean money. It means ability

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01:26:56,960 --> 01:27:01,479
Speaker 1: to deal with increasing uncertainty. How when measure success after

1611
01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:04,519
Speaker 1: this is over? Is how one was able to master

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01:27:04,600 --> 01:27:07,559
Speaker 1: this uncertainty. That's interesting. Here's one that I definitely do it. Sorry,

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01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:08,600
Speaker 1: that wasn't the one that I thought I was going

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01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:11,679
Speaker 1: to read. Here's one I definitely do agree with. College

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01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:13,719
Speaker 1: is the best This is quote. This is a myth.

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01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:16,240
Speaker 1: College is the best way to get learning and then

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01:27:16,280 --> 01:27:19,320
Speaker 1: a job. Well, colleges have sent kids home, refuse to

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01:27:19,360 --> 01:27:22,320
Speaker 1: return tuitions and rents, and online college courses are worse

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01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:25,760
Speaker 1: than the online schools. Goodbye college, we hardly knew you. Yeah,

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01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:30,680
Speaker 1: college it's been a scam for years. Scam. Seriously, no

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01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:33,040
Speaker 1: one wants a thing about this. It's true. You can

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01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:34,920
Speaker 1: learn a lot, go get a job, figured things out,

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01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:38,639
Speaker 1: maybe grad school for certain very specific pursuits, but four

1624
01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:43,960
Speaker 1: year college it's not what we should be doing. Myth.

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01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:48,320
Speaker 1: Giving up charity, or rather giving to charity, means you

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01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:51,400
Speaker 1: are charitable. There are hundreds of ways to help people.

1627
01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:54,960
Speaker 1: Volunteering has gone up, donating to go fund me for

1628
01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:57,599
Speaker 1: people who are struggling. Service to others is the best

1629
01:27:57,600 --> 01:28:00,400
Speaker 1: way to reduce the stress of isolation. Give as an instinct.

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01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:02,160
Speaker 1: I think that's true. A lot of ways to be charitable.

1631
01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:04,120
Speaker 1: It's not just sending money. Sending money is nice too.

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01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:10,720
Speaker 1: Another myth needing little sleep is good for productivity. Some

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01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:13,640
Speaker 1: productivity gurus have claimed this for years. Clearly, sleep is

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01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:15,400
Speaker 1: one of the main boosters of the immune system, which

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01:28:15,439 --> 01:28:18,479
Speaker 1: is so desperately needed right now. My friends, I learned

1636
01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:20,280
Speaker 1: this too late in life, but I have learned it.

1637
01:28:20,360 --> 01:28:24,559
Speaker 1: Sleep is critical. You must defend sleep the way that

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01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:27,880
Speaker 1: you would protect somebody who is Like, if you're walking

1639
01:28:27,880 --> 01:28:30,680
Speaker 1: around with your immune system in a jar, think of

1640
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:34,200
Speaker 1: sleep as your greatest protection for that jar. Okay, sleep

1641
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:38,599
Speaker 1: is essential. You must get enough sleep and good sleep.

1642
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:41,920
Speaker 1: Do not let anything interfere with your sleep. It's important

1643
01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:43,519
Speaker 1: for you. It's important for your immune system, I for

1644
01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:48,080
Speaker 1: your higher functioning in your mind. Another myth, my favorite

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01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:52,400
Speaker 1: one here, experts are right. Scientists initially thought worldwide depths

1646
01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:53,960
Speaker 1: could be as many as one hundred and forty million

1647
01:28:54,320 --> 01:28:57,240
Speaker 1: people at Harvard. What so clearly wrong, and yet you

1648
01:28:57,320 --> 01:28:59,559
Speaker 1: shut down the entire world economy, which has led to

1649
01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:03,160
Speaker 1: tragic situations for tens of millions. A lot of mythbusting

1650
01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:05,439
Speaker 1: going on out there, my friends. Send me your thoughts.

1651
01:29:05,439 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 1: What are the myths that you see that are evaporating

1652
01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:11,479
Speaker 1: right now? Send us that for roll Call. Thanks for

1653
01:29:11,560 --> 01:29:14,680
Speaker 1: listening to the bus Sex and Show podcast. Remember to

1654
01:29:14,720 --> 01:29:18,360
Speaker 1: subscribe on Apple podcasts, the iHeart Radio app, or wherever

1655
01:29:18,439 --> 01:29:23,160
Speaker 1: you get your podcasts. All right, roll call, my friends,

1656
01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:26,719
Speaker 1: thank you as always for sending in your thoughts. It's

1657
01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:30,320
Speaker 1: a part of the day where I feel like there's

1658
01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:32,400
Speaker 1: there's a connectivity with all of you, and there's just

1659
01:29:32,439 --> 01:29:34,320
Speaker 1: a normalcy in my day to day when I get

1660
01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:36,360
Speaker 1: to hear from all of you instead of just feeling

1661
01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:40,920
Speaker 1: like I'm constantly doing what you know, doing the the

1662
01:29:41,040 --> 01:29:44,360
Speaker 1: dance of trying to establish some normalcy where there is

1663
01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:45,840
Speaker 1: none in my day to day here in New York,

1664
01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:49,000
Speaker 1: which is crazy. So let me get to what you

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01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:51,320
Speaker 1: have to say. Facebook dot com, slash buck sex in

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01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:53,200
Speaker 1: Team Bucket, I hurt me dot com. But first, also

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Speaker 1: producer Mark, how are you doing at How is your weekend?

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01:29:55,000 --> 01:29:58,080
Speaker 1: You and the missus on Lockdown? Everything? Okay, Yeah, everything's great.

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01:29:58,120 --> 01:30:01,880
Speaker 1: I rediscovered words with friends. I've never played that work.

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01:30:02,240 --> 01:30:05,080
Speaker 1: It's like scrabble but on your phone. Oh I check

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01:30:05,120 --> 01:30:07,880
Speaker 1: that out. Yeah, it's very addicting because we just keep

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01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:10,840
Speaker 1: playing each other and you know, bragging who can spell

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01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:13,880
Speaker 1: as many words? Yeah? So I had, I had the

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01:30:13,880 --> 01:30:18,200
Speaker 1: the mystery girlfriend I had. Her name is Deborah. So

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01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:21,439
Speaker 1: now her name is Deborah. Well I know I ready

1676
01:30:21,479 --> 01:30:24,680
Speaker 1: to do that dropping bombs today. If you listen through

1677
01:30:24,720 --> 01:30:28,200
Speaker 1: the show, you find out things. So so Deborah and

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01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:32,040
Speaker 1: I we we cooked and mostly I sue chef. So

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01:30:32,120 --> 01:30:34,960
Speaker 1: that means like I do like the dicing of garlic

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01:30:35,040 --> 01:30:37,040
Speaker 1: and onions, and I do those annoying and she's the

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01:30:37,120 --> 01:30:39,200
Speaker 1: one that's kind of mastering the stove and making sure

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01:30:39,200 --> 01:30:44,280
Speaker 1: that everything's But we made shrimp risotto last night that

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01:30:44,479 --> 01:30:48,320
Speaker 1: was absolutely out of this world she made. I didn't

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01:30:48,320 --> 01:30:54,120
Speaker 1: do anything from scratch U pennay with bologne sauce on Saturday,

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01:30:54,720 --> 01:31:00,280
Speaker 1: and also made gluten free chocolate chunk cookies yesterday. So

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01:31:00,840 --> 01:31:02,439
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is, I don't know if we ever

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01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:04,280
Speaker 1: will be able to go back to the normal freedom

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01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:05,680
Speaker 1: hut because I'm not sure I'll be able to fit

1689
01:31:05,680 --> 01:31:07,760
Speaker 1: through the door. Yeah. And why is there got a

1690
01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:11,559
Speaker 1: ring on her finger? Yet? Wow? You know? Is she

1691
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:14,680
Speaker 1: also gluten intolerant or she just no do this for

1692
01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:17,639
Speaker 1: me because she's amazing? Wow? Yeah, she loves the gluten.

1693
01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:19,519
Speaker 1: She does. I think she. I think she goes heavy

1694
01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:20,960
Speaker 1: on the gluten when I'm not around to kind of

1695
01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:22,360
Speaker 1: get it out of her sister a little bit. But

1696
01:31:22,600 --> 01:31:24,400
Speaker 1: you know, when I'm around, she goes gluten free, which

1697
01:31:24,439 --> 01:31:26,640
Speaker 1: I appreciate because the gluten gluten is the enemy. It

1698
01:31:26,720 --> 01:31:29,519
Speaker 1: takes a special, special person to do that. Yeah, no,

1699
01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:32,400
Speaker 1: I agree, I produced producer Mark. I'm feeling you like

1700
01:31:32,439 --> 01:31:34,240
Speaker 1: your gluten and you don't want to give it up anytime,

1701
01:31:34,280 --> 01:31:35,920
Speaker 1: So I do not. But you know what, if my

1702
01:31:35,960 --> 01:31:38,160
Speaker 1: wife was gluten intolerant, I would do it for her.

1703
01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:41,479
Speaker 1: Do either you guys have any allergies to food she

1704
01:31:41,880 --> 01:31:45,479
Speaker 1: is allergic to like pine nuts. That's easy though, though,

1705
01:31:45,560 --> 01:31:47,320
Speaker 1: right like who pine nuts? Gim I you know what

1706
01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:50,799
Speaker 1: I mean? Pine nuts is like is like the Saturday

1707
01:31:50,920 --> 01:31:55,160
Speaker 1: Night Live of food you don't need. Basically, That's about it. Yeah,

1708
01:31:55,200 --> 01:31:59,559
Speaker 1: fair enough, all right, ro call time dumb Hey Buck,

1709
01:31:59,600 --> 01:32:01,519
Speaker 1: longtime Freedom a listener here. I just want to thank

1710
01:32:01,560 --> 01:32:03,840
Speaker 1: you for your coverage of things this past week. I

1711
01:32:03,840 --> 01:32:06,200
Speaker 1: couldn't agree more with your sentiments in regards to the

1712
01:32:06,200 --> 01:32:08,960
Speaker 1: current measures in place. I'm very disappointed and how the

1713
01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:11,479
Speaker 1: majority of folks have responded to this crisis, and that

1714
01:32:11,520 --> 01:32:14,599
Speaker 1: includes conservatives that genuinely agree with Thanks for being genuine, sir,

1715
01:32:14,760 --> 01:32:17,559
Speaker 1: God bless Look, do you know I'm just trying to

1716
01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:19,960
Speaker 1: do what is what I think is part of the

1717
01:32:19,960 --> 01:32:23,400
Speaker 1: mission of the show, which is ask questions and really

1718
01:32:23,439 --> 01:32:26,639
Speaker 1: demand real answers. And I think a lot of folks

1719
01:32:26,720 --> 01:32:30,479
Speaker 1: have just fallen into the false security of consensus thinking

1720
01:32:30,520 --> 01:32:33,639
Speaker 1: on this This is too complicated an issue with too

1721
01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:38,599
Speaker 1: many moving parts and variables for consensus to be a refuge.

1722
01:32:38,760 --> 01:32:41,600
Speaker 1: Everyone's got to be thinking for themselves on this one.

1723
01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:42,800
Speaker 1: You know, this is why sometimes I have to ask

1724
01:32:42,800 --> 01:32:44,400
Speaker 1: produce a mark, am I crazy? And he says, well,

1725
01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:47,639
Speaker 1: in general, maybe, but on this particular issue, you might

1726
01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:49,760
Speaker 1: be asking good questions. Right, So this is we all

1727
01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:54,519
Speaker 1: need that sanity check that I think we have to

1728
01:32:54,520 --> 01:32:56,680
Speaker 1: do by asking ourselves what do we really know? And

1729
01:32:56,720 --> 01:32:58,320
Speaker 1: what are we being told? And what are we being

1730
01:32:58,360 --> 01:33:01,000
Speaker 1: told to accept that we don't we don't agree with.

1731
01:33:01,560 --> 01:33:04,160
Speaker 1: There are going to be things in this discussion that

1732
01:33:04,240 --> 01:33:06,840
Speaker 1: fall into that category. But Dom, thank you so much

1733
01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:09,720
Speaker 1: for writing again. I do appreciate it. Casey. I love

1734
01:33:09,720 --> 01:33:13,640
Speaker 1: your show and listen regularly. Well, Casey, we love you regularly.

1735
01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:16,680
Speaker 1: So thank you. I'm a paramedic trying to work through

1736
01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:19,400
Speaker 1: the pandemic and the Panhandle of Florida. You're my go

1737
01:33:19,479 --> 01:33:21,920
Speaker 1: to for rational thinking in this mess. I quit watching

1738
01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:23,960
Speaker 1: regular news ages ago. Thank you for what you do

1739
01:33:24,040 --> 01:33:26,679
Speaker 1: Shields High Well, Casey, thank you for what you do

1740
01:33:27,560 --> 01:33:32,080
Speaker 1: being a paramedic. Right now, it's just just tough. I mean,

1741
01:33:32,080 --> 01:33:34,320
Speaker 1: every time you're showing up, I can imagine not only

1742
01:33:34,320 --> 01:33:36,200
Speaker 1: you got a couple of things happening at the same time,

1743
01:33:36,760 --> 01:33:40,439
Speaker 1: one you have the just the emotional and psychological toll

1744
01:33:40,479 --> 01:33:42,479
Speaker 1: of picking up all these COVID patients who are having

1745
01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:46,120
Speaker 1: trouble breathing and understanding what a tough time they're in for,

1746
01:33:46,400 --> 01:33:48,679
Speaker 1: and that for a lot of them, if they're older

1747
01:33:48,680 --> 01:33:50,920
Speaker 1: and if their health is really really rocky, it's going

1748
01:33:51,000 --> 01:33:53,080
Speaker 1: to be a fight for them to stay alive. And

1749
01:33:53,160 --> 01:33:55,960
Speaker 1: you know that when you're picking them up. And then

1750
01:33:56,000 --> 01:33:59,040
Speaker 1: also the risk that you're taking as an individual, and

1751
01:33:59,120 --> 01:34:00,840
Speaker 1: the risk of bringing in this home and giving it

1752
01:34:00,880 --> 01:34:03,040
Speaker 1: to members of your family. The docs that I talked

1753
01:34:03,040 --> 01:34:08,120
Speaker 1: to here, that's a recurring it's it's not themselves. They're

1754
01:34:08,160 --> 01:34:11,080
Speaker 1: not worried about and you know, at some level I

1755
01:34:11,160 --> 01:34:13,120
Speaker 1: kind of understand this. I remember thinking a little bit

1756
01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:16,799
Speaker 1: about the unlikely scenario that as a as a CIA analyst,

1757
01:34:16,880 --> 01:34:20,519
Speaker 1: I would have you know, bit the bullet overseas. It

1758
01:34:20,560 --> 01:34:22,439
Speaker 1: does happen to people. If there's a reason why there

1759
01:34:22,439 --> 01:34:25,160
Speaker 1: are stars on the wall in the intelligence community, in

1760
01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:29,040
Speaker 1: the CIA lobby, right, people do get killed overseas doing

1761
01:34:29,080 --> 01:34:32,280
Speaker 1: what I was doing. But I just remember thinking that

1762
01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:34,400
Speaker 1: the worst part I just I didn't want my family

1763
01:34:34,439 --> 01:34:36,160
Speaker 1: to go through that. I wasn't so much worried for

1764
01:34:36,240 --> 01:34:38,280
Speaker 1: me as I was worried at the prospect of what

1765
01:34:38,320 --> 01:34:41,000
Speaker 1: it would of how sad and how tough it would

1766
01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:43,600
Speaker 1: be for my family back home, and I can I

1767
01:34:43,600 --> 01:34:47,479
Speaker 1: can understand for doctors and nurses, you know, they're they're

1768
01:34:47,479 --> 01:34:49,479
Speaker 1: taking their risk because this is there. This isn't just

1769
01:34:49,520 --> 01:34:52,719
Speaker 1: their profession, this is their calling to heal the sick,

1770
01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:56,240
Speaker 1: to save lives. But I know that there's this other

1771
01:34:56,280 --> 01:34:59,439
Speaker 1: component that comes in of yeah, but now you come

1772
01:34:59,439 --> 01:35:01,400
Speaker 1: home and you might infect your husband or you might

1773
01:35:01,400 --> 01:35:04,320
Speaker 1: infect your wife, and you know, there's I understand that

1774
01:35:04,320 --> 01:35:08,479
Speaker 1: that's an added level of of dress for our frontline

1775
01:35:08,520 --> 01:35:11,640
Speaker 1: providers and paramedics to be under. So God bless you,

1776
01:35:11,720 --> 01:35:13,800
Speaker 1: Casey Shield. Your shield is high, and thank you for

1777
01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:16,520
Speaker 1: doing what you're doing down in the in the Panhandle,

1778
01:35:16,680 --> 01:35:19,240
Speaker 1: and you're you're saving lives every day. Just remember wake

1779
01:35:19,320 --> 01:35:21,680
Speaker 1: up in the morning and remember you were probably going

1780
01:35:21,720 --> 01:35:24,160
Speaker 1: to save a life today. It's an amazing thing. It's

1781
01:35:24,200 --> 01:35:27,120
Speaker 1: a it's a very special thing. It's a high it's

1782
01:35:27,160 --> 01:35:29,519
Speaker 1: a lot of risk involved in what you're doing right now,

1783
01:35:29,560 --> 01:35:33,439
Speaker 1: given the spread of COVID, but also it's a unique

1784
01:35:33,439 --> 01:35:36,559
Speaker 1: and special calling to be able to do that. John,

1785
01:35:36,720 --> 01:35:39,720
Speaker 1: listen to your Thursday show while working out at home. Coincidentally,

1786
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:43,240
Speaker 1: haven't used resistance bands for years, but can convert, can

1787
01:35:43,320 --> 01:35:47,280
Speaker 1: confirm if those bands snap and break and your face

1788
01:35:47,479 --> 01:35:50,200
Speaker 1: is in range, you won't have a good time. Caught

1789
01:35:50,240 --> 01:35:52,439
Speaker 1: one of the nose years ago and there was a

1790
01:35:52,439 --> 01:35:54,599
Speaker 1: lot of blood. Give you a black eye in the process.

1791
01:35:54,680 --> 01:35:57,640
Speaker 1: Shields high. Yeah, John, I'm not I'm not messing with that.

1792
01:35:57,760 --> 01:36:01,080
Speaker 1: I don't want anything snapping near my eyes. Sorry, no,

1793
01:36:01,120 --> 01:36:02,960
Speaker 1: no dice for me. Man, What do you think producer

1794
01:36:03,000 --> 01:36:05,320
Speaker 1: mark resistance bands? Yeah or nay? Well, I have a

1795
01:36:05,360 --> 01:36:08,880
Speaker 1: box of resistance bands downstairs with my doorman, so we'll

1796
01:36:08,920 --> 01:36:11,920
Speaker 1: see have heck goes? All right? He let us know.

1797
01:36:12,120 --> 01:36:14,839
Speaker 1: Just be careful, all right. We gotta keep you without

1798
01:36:14,880 --> 01:36:16,840
Speaker 1: you the freedom. You know, the doors don't open, so

1799
01:36:16,880 --> 01:36:18,880
Speaker 1: we gotta keep you. If you if you guys hear

1800
01:36:18,880 --> 01:36:21,640
Speaker 1: a best of you know what happened, all right? Just

1801
01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:23,519
Speaker 1: make sure you know. I want to make sure missus

1802
01:36:23,560 --> 01:36:25,880
Speaker 1: Mark has some say here and like, let's not get

1803
01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:28,520
Speaker 1: too crazy, all right, you're not making a rocky montage.

1804
01:36:28,600 --> 01:36:31,200
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to stay healthy, all right, healthy? Fine,

1805
01:36:31,280 --> 01:36:34,120
Speaker 1: but you know, no and no inverted push ups with

1806
01:36:34,160 --> 01:36:36,200
Speaker 1: the bands you know on your feet or anything like that.

1807
01:36:36,240 --> 01:36:38,120
Speaker 1: I'll keep the bands away from my face. How about

1808
01:36:38,120 --> 01:36:40,280
Speaker 1: that there? You keep the bands away from your face?

1809
01:36:40,360 --> 01:36:45,200
Speaker 1: All right, all right, all right, John listening to your

1810
01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:47,800
Speaker 1: Thursday show. Oh wait, no, he already that when Christy

1811
01:36:47,880 --> 01:36:50,800
Speaker 1: Happy Friday. Buck. Let me start by saying, please keep

1812
01:36:50,840 --> 01:36:54,040
Speaker 1: the beard. It looks great. Thank you, Christy. I'll take it.

1813
01:36:54,080 --> 01:36:55,639
Speaker 1: The hair is getting a little crazy, but the beard

1814
01:36:55,720 --> 01:36:59,200
Speaker 1: is kind of growing in thick style. It becomes increasingly

1815
01:36:59,240 --> 01:37:01,640
Speaker 1: clear the Left in a fantasy land wherein only the

1816
01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:04,000
Speaker 1: government can save us. What troubles me most is the

1817
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:06,640
Speaker 1: value they place on victimhood. They have no time nor

1818
01:37:06,720 --> 01:37:10,040
Speaker 1: respect for people who value self reliance and personal responsibility,

1819
01:37:10,280 --> 01:37:14,160
Speaker 1: two major factors that converted me to conservatism. I currently

1820
01:37:14,200 --> 01:37:17,400
Speaker 1: work in the bureaucracy. I see firsthand how bloated and

1821
01:37:17,439 --> 01:37:20,200
Speaker 1: inefficient and deeply unfair it is. Relying so heavily on

1822
01:37:20,240 --> 01:37:22,360
Speaker 1: the government to solve one's problems is not only a dumb,

1823
01:37:22,400 --> 01:37:25,840
Speaker 1: but frankly dangerous idea. How do you How do you

1824
01:37:25,920 --> 01:37:29,360
Speaker 1: lure people away from the appealing notion that nothing is

1825
01:37:29,400 --> 01:37:31,640
Speaker 1: their fault? They can always blame someone else. It is

1826
01:37:31,640 --> 01:37:39,320
Speaker 1: sad and frustrating, but my shield remains high. First of all, Christie.

1827
01:37:39,360 --> 01:37:40,960
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your note and a lot

1828
01:37:41,080 --> 01:37:42,960
Speaker 1: of a lot of insight, and I'm just trying to

1829
01:37:42,960 --> 01:37:46,640
Speaker 1: think of the best way to answer this. One of

1830
01:37:46,680 --> 01:37:48,600
Speaker 1: the reasons that I left the federal government was that

1831
01:37:48,640 --> 01:37:50,640
Speaker 1: I did find that I used to say this and

1832
01:37:50,680 --> 01:37:54,240
Speaker 1: maybe this is a little bit too cynical, although I

1833
01:37:54,240 --> 01:37:56,720
Speaker 1: don't think it really is. Not. That I'm given in

1834
01:37:56,760 --> 01:38:00,960
Speaker 1: a moment's thought that excellence was suspect. I've always believe

1835
01:38:01,000 --> 01:38:02,960
Speaker 1: that that's true. Within the federal government. Certainly within the

1836
01:38:02,960 --> 01:38:07,240
Speaker 1: bureaucratic ranks. Leadership can be excellent, or at least can

1837
01:38:07,920 --> 01:38:13,800
Speaker 1: pursue the reputation of excellence, sometimes at the expense of

1838
01:38:13,880 --> 01:38:18,160
Speaker 1: actual skill and ability. But if you're a worker b

1839
01:38:18,920 --> 01:38:21,040
Speaker 1: you are not supposed to be excellent, and if you are,

1840
01:38:21,280 --> 01:38:24,360
Speaker 1: that puts people on edge, that puts them on guard.

1841
01:38:25,040 --> 01:38:27,639
Speaker 1: So how do you change that culture? I don't think

1842
01:38:27,640 --> 01:38:32,080
Speaker 1: you really can, because the bureaucracy is a very large,

1843
01:38:32,640 --> 01:38:38,280
Speaker 1: a very large organism in a sense for which individual

1844
01:38:38,479 --> 01:38:42,800
Speaker 1: ingenuity and it just individualism in general, is nothing but risk.

1845
01:38:43,280 --> 01:38:45,120
Speaker 1: You are a cog in the machine. You are there

1846
01:38:45,160 --> 01:38:47,800
Speaker 1: to do the tasks that you are given, and for

1847
01:38:47,840 --> 01:38:52,960
Speaker 1: some people there they like that mechanized approach to their

1848
01:38:53,040 --> 01:38:54,559
Speaker 1: day to day. They like that they have a thing

1849
01:38:54,600 --> 01:38:56,040
Speaker 1: to do. They do the thing, that's what they do.

1850
01:38:56,080 --> 01:38:59,479
Speaker 1: They go home. And that's fine because we do need

1851
01:39:00,240 --> 01:39:02,520
Speaker 1: we do need some government, we do need some bureaucracies.

1852
01:39:02,560 --> 01:39:04,800
Speaker 1: These are things that must exist at some level. I

1853
01:39:04,840 --> 01:39:07,400
Speaker 1: think our bureaucracies at the federal level have become far

1854
01:39:07,439 --> 01:39:10,599
Speaker 1: too big. I think the culture has become self indulgent

1855
01:39:10,640 --> 01:39:13,920
Speaker 1: and complacent. I think that the bloat is completely out

1856
01:39:13,920 --> 01:39:19,639
Speaker 1: of control. And I think that mediocrity processes the product,

1857
01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:24,800
Speaker 1: and mediocrity is the expectation. That's you know, you know,

1858
01:39:24,960 --> 01:39:28,439
Speaker 1: mediocrity is really really the goal because they don't want

1859
01:39:28,479 --> 01:39:30,519
Speaker 1: the want there to be excellent. So those are those

1860
01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:32,920
Speaker 1: are my musings on the bureaucracy. I wish I had

1861
01:39:33,439 --> 01:39:35,160
Speaker 1: an answer for you, a way to fix it, but

1862
01:39:35,240 --> 01:39:37,240
Speaker 1: I some people like, do this thing up, Well, here's

1863
01:39:37,240 --> 01:39:38,920
Speaker 1: how we fix it. You know that always this is

1864
01:39:38,920 --> 01:39:40,840
Speaker 1: like radio hosts that are like, you know, everybody, just

1865
01:39:40,880 --> 01:39:42,920
Speaker 1: call your congressman and tell them to stop spending too

1866
01:39:43,000 --> 01:39:46,519
Speaker 1: much money. I mean, okay, maybe if there's one concerted

1867
01:39:46,520 --> 01:39:48,639
Speaker 1: effort at one point in time on one bill, that'll work.

1868
01:39:48,680 --> 01:39:51,639
Speaker 1: But I mean general day to day guess what you're

1869
01:39:51,640 --> 01:39:53,479
Speaker 1: gonna get stuck at the switchboard and no one cares.

1870
01:39:54,160 --> 01:39:56,120
Speaker 1: So I wish I had. I wish I had answers

1871
01:39:56,160 --> 01:39:59,800
Speaker 1: to everything. Unfortunately, one of the hopefully one of this

1872
01:40:00,200 --> 01:40:01,800
Speaker 1: points you find of the show is that when I

1873
01:40:01,800 --> 01:40:03,280
Speaker 1: tell you I have an answer, is because I believe

1874
01:40:03,280 --> 01:40:06,639
Speaker 1: I do. And when I don't, I tell you that too, Matthew,

1875
01:40:07,680 --> 01:40:11,240
Speaker 1: Producer Mark and Space Lord super Ninja Buck. Yeah. Yeah,

1876
01:40:11,600 --> 01:40:17,120
Speaker 1: producer market's top billing because he does all the work. Matthew, yep, yeah,

1877
01:40:17,040 --> 01:40:18,800
Speaker 1: where do you where do we find this one in

1878
01:40:18,880 --> 01:40:22,080
Speaker 1: the inbox? Producer Mark? Huh? I wonder why that made

1879
01:40:22,120 --> 01:40:25,080
Speaker 1: it in Yeah, I swear I didn't make that up.

1880
01:40:25,360 --> 01:40:27,559
Speaker 1: It's all right, it's our producer. Mark is the he's

1881
01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:30,000
Speaker 1: the engine. He's the engine behind the show. You know,

1882
01:40:30,080 --> 01:40:33,200
Speaker 1: he's the he's the drummer and the bass player, and

1883
01:40:33,280 --> 01:40:35,479
Speaker 1: I'm the guy that you know. We just hope that

1884
01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:37,720
Speaker 1: he's stays sober enough to actually do the show as

1885
01:40:37,720 --> 01:40:40,360
Speaker 1: the front man. You know. That's the idea. Regarding your

1886
01:40:40,400 --> 01:40:43,280
Speaker 1: question last week, if the greatest sports movie of all time,

1887
01:40:43,400 --> 01:40:46,599
Speaker 1: what it is? I offer up the legend of bagger Vance,

1888
01:40:47,200 --> 01:40:51,479
Speaker 1: well written, well acted, and a great storyline. Isn't that

1889
01:40:51,560 --> 01:40:53,680
Speaker 1: a golf movie? Yeah? I looked it up. It's a

1890
01:40:53,680 --> 01:40:56,800
Speaker 1: golf movie. Is he being serious? Could it really? I

1891
01:40:56,840 --> 01:41:01,439
Speaker 1: hope not. I wouldn't or even try to watch it. Like,

1892
01:41:01,479 --> 01:41:04,200
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I appreciate the compliment, but I hate golf

1893
01:41:04,280 --> 01:41:05,960
Speaker 1: so much. Yeah, I know. This is the guy that

1894
01:41:05,960 --> 01:41:07,760
Speaker 1: thinks you do all the work. Meanwhile, he maybe has

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Speaker 1: picked out the most boring and most boring sports movie

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Speaker 1: of all time. Does this say something about his judgment

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Speaker 1: producer Mark, No, his judgment on producers is great. It's

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Speaker 1: just sports movies, isn't so great? Are you having folks, Charlyne, Hey, bucko,

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Speaker 1: that's funny. My family actually calls me that. So excited

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Speaker 1: for you doing well. I've listened to you from the start.

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Speaker 1: You are who you are. Who is in my earbuds

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Speaker 1: every night as I go to sleep. Well, thank you, Charlynne.

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01:41:34,240 --> 01:41:35,559
Speaker 1: That way I wake up in the middle of night.

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01:41:35,560 --> 01:41:38,320
Speaker 1: I've got someone smart with a nice voice to listen to. Well, Charlotte,

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate that. Thank you so much for tuning in.

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Speaker 1: And yes, that's very kind of you. I'm happy to

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01:41:45,840 --> 01:41:48,479
Speaker 1: keep that going, and producer Mark did ask about the

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01:41:48,560 --> 01:41:51,280
Speaker 1: multi podcast. Research is pretty much done, so now it's

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Speaker 1: just sitting down and recording, which will happen this week.

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Speaker 1: But it is happening. Veronica, Hello from the Florida Panhandle.

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Speaker 1: Just want to tell you your show is my new addiction.

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Speaker 1: I love it. Happy Easter. Well, Veronica, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: It's a healthier addiction than cadburry eggs brucer. Mark, do

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Speaker 1: you know you don't eat do you eat Easter candy?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know you don't. I know you're a

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Speaker 1: passover guy, not an Easter guy. Just because I celebrate

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Speaker 1: Passover doesn't mean I don't like Easter dandy. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So what's the top Easter candy for you?

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Speaker 1: I love the chocolate bunnies. Yeah, really chocolate and hollow

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Speaker 1: Oh I'm thick, thick, that's the right answer. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: But hollow chocolate bunny is like you're just getting it's

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Speaker 1: getting stingy with that chocolate. You know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: You bite into that bunny head. You don't want it

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Speaker 1: to be full of air. You want to be full

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Speaker 1: of more delicious chocolate. There's nothing more disappointing than biting

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Speaker 1: into a bunny or a Santa or any of those

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Speaker 1: you know type of things and it being hollow. Totally

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Speaker 1: agree you're in This is the buck Sexton Show podcast. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I mentioned Carol Baskin. Carol Baskin. I can't really quote

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Speaker 1: The Tiger King about Carol Baskin because of family show,

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Speaker 1: and we don't want to just have Producer Mark get

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Speaker 1: carpol tunnel syndrome from bleeping and bleeping and bleeping. But

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Speaker 1: Carol Baskin is upset with the show Tiger King on

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Speaker 1: Netflix because she says that it did not focus enough

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Speaker 1: on the plight of the animals, and probably also because

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Speaker 1: it kind of it kind of implied that maybe she

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Speaker 1: fed her husband to tigers. What do you think, Producer Mark.

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Speaker 1: I still haven't watch it, so I can't relax. I

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01:43:28,640 --> 01:43:30,799
Speaker 1: hate the shows that are all hyped. I just can't.

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Speaker 1: Like all you see is it all over the internet,

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Speaker 1: and it just makes me not want to watch it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you got to watch the first two episodes, all,

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Speaker 1: all right, you don't. I will watch it, it's just

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Speaker 1: it's not at the top of the docket. I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 1: But because I'm gonna make because then then on we

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Speaker 1: can make we can make Tiger King references to each

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01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:47,320
Speaker 1: other here on the show, and then everybody will know

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Speaker 1: that we know what's going on. Can we just stick

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Speaker 1: with our normal of The Office and Seinfield references. It's

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Speaker 1: probably true, Probably probably would work. I will say, I've

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Speaker 1: been watching the latter seasons of the Office where you

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01:43:56,960 --> 01:43:58,960
Speaker 1: don't have Michael Scott. It's just not the same show.

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Speaker 1: It's just not this because I'm I've watched The Office

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01:44:01,439 --> 01:44:03,719
Speaker 1: so many times, but it's a little bit like watching

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Speaker 1: the Bulls when they don't have Michael Jordan. Yeah, they

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Speaker 1: still at Scottie Pippen and they're actually a really good team.

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Speaker 1: And Scottie Pippen was an amazing basketball player, but you

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01:44:12,880 --> 01:44:15,720
Speaker 1: need Jordan. It's not the same. It's just not the

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Speaker 1: same show. What I do when I rewatch is I

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Speaker 1: go to the last season where he leaves, and then

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Speaker 1: I watched the very last episode of the series where

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Speaker 1: he comes back. Yeah. By the way, another another public

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Speaker 1: service announcement, because I posted a photo if you haven't

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Speaker 1: already followed me on Instagram buck Sexton because I post

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Speaker 1: stuff there. But I posted a photo of Telulah, and

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Speaker 1: I also did it on Facebook, you know, chubby shaming

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Speaker 1: a dog. You know there are limits, folks, all right.

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Speaker 1: I don't need anyone telling me that Telula's obese. That

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Speaker 1: is nonsense. She is beautiful. She is a full figured gal,

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Speaker 1: and she's an old lady. She's eleven, which in dog

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Speaker 1: years means you know, she's way up there. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: we give her a little extra bacon sometimes. She's beautiful.

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Speaker 1: Most of you all say, a vast majority of you

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Speaker 1: understand that she's a beautiful, l old lady French bulldog.

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Speaker 1: But some people were calling me out and they were

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Speaker 1: fat shaming my family, pooch, and I'm just trying to say,

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Speaker 1: you know, we're not gonna put her on a little

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Speaker 1: a little doggie treadmill at age eleven. All right, friend,

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Speaker 1: she's lived to be twelve to fourteen years old. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so she's she's in her golden years, and she's beautiful

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Speaker 1: just as she is. I mean, would you rather than

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Speaker 1: fetch shame the dog, are you? Well? I'm not posting

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Speaker 1: photos of me without a shirt on, so you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, that's a little bit harder. You know

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Speaker 1: what I mean, the dog is the dog. They could

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Speaker 1: see the dogs got Look, dog's got a belly. But

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Speaker 1: we're taking good care of her here. Let her live

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Speaker 1: her life, live her life. A little bit of bacon. Well,

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Speaker 1: what are we gonna We're gonna gonna deny her the bacon.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy, all right, Van, Hello Buck. I don't know

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Speaker 1: about anybody else, but I'm really digging the extended roll calls.

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Speaker 1: I still want the seminal analysis that only you can provide,

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01:45:51,040 --> 01:45:53,559
Speaker 1: which does keep us safe and warm at night. However,

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Speaker 1: the extra levity of random thoughts of other listeners gives

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01:45:56,120 --> 01:45:58,360
Speaker 1: much needed relief from our new day to day reality.

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Speaker 1: Stay safe, keep finding good fight shield tie, Van, That's

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Speaker 1: exactly what we're going for here. So if this gives

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Speaker 1: you a little bit of like relaxation time toward the

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Speaker 1: end of the show, that's what we're trying to do,

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Speaker 1: and that's why we're doing the extended role calls. Is

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Speaker 1: also why producer Mark and I are just chatting about

2002
01:46:12,120 --> 01:46:14,719
Speaker 1: stuff because we're all friends. We're all in this together, folks,

2003
01:46:14,720 --> 01:46:16,679
Speaker 1: you know, we really are, and you're a part of

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Speaker 1: the Freedom Hut community that we're building every single day,

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Speaker 1: and that we've now been going with for years and

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Speaker 1: years and years, so we're all gonna make it through,

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Speaker 1: my friends. We're gonna be safe, we're gonna be sound,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna be warm at night at some point in

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Speaker 1: the future. For right now though, Shieldsie