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Speaker 1: Call It what It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camille Luddington,

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Speaker 1: an iHeartRadio podcast. Well, Hello, Hello, Hello.

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Speaker 2: Hello Call It crew, and welcome to another episode of

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Speaker 2: Short and Sweet Sweet. I need to talk about this,

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Speaker 2: you guys. Okay, So obviously, like I'm not American. I

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Speaker 2: went to college for like a minute, I never rushed

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Speaker 2: a Swarty. So this is this is all new to me, right, okay.

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Speaker 2: And somehow the algorithm for my TikTok was like, you

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Speaker 2: know what she needs to she needs to be involved.

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Speaker 1: In Bama Rush.

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Speaker 3: I was like, I don't even know.

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Speaker 2: I didn't do you know what Bama Rush is?

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Speaker 1: Is it out? Is it at Alabama?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, it's the Alabama State University or whatever it is, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Alabama State.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well I didn't know that. I was like Bama Rush.

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Speaker 2: I was like maybe that's I literally thought maybe that

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Speaker 2: was the name of the sorority, Like it was like

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Speaker 2: Catholic Cappa Deltia, and then there was just Bama and

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Speaker 2: it was like you gottadrink, I'm I'm you know, go ahead.

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Speaker 2: I had no I yah, the presence this.

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Speaker 3: Has on TikTok. Let me just explain this to you.

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Speaker 1: Well, first, ken you, let's explain it what it is.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: So for people that are not American, well I might

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Speaker 2: have to have you explain it. This is what me

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Speaker 2: Brits thinks. Okay, okay, Okay. It's like a movie. There's

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Speaker 2: a sorority row at a college and they have these

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Speaker 2: like mega mansions and then their houses and their houses

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Speaker 2: and they actually get to live there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well they get to live there.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you want to if you want to, Okay, so

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Speaker 2: to get to I would want to. I've seen these houses.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, twenty five thousand square feet.

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Speaker 3: Look at that the White House.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, so okay, So you arrive as a freshman, and

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Speaker 2: then they all have like Greek letterary Greek, yes, okay.

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Speaker 2: So then they have like names though, like Cappa Delta, Gamma, Kappa, Gamma, Zeta, oh, Zeta's.

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Speaker 2: Data's all over the web, the websites, and you go

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Speaker 2: and you hope to get into to get cruited, to

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Speaker 2: get picked to be in a sorority. Basically, you don't

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Speaker 2: show up in camp on college campus in the US

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Speaker 2: and just be like, hey, I'd love to be part

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Speaker 2: of the sorority and they're like, yay, come in.

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Speaker 1: They pick you.

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Speaker 3: It's like a social nightmare.

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Speaker 1: Yeah I was not in a sorority and the idea

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Speaker 1: of being in one or rushing or yeah, it gives

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Speaker 1: me anxiety.

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Speaker 2: So you go and then there are cuts, like you

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Speaker 2: meet them, and.

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Speaker 3: Then there's certain like a week. It's not just like

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Speaker 3: a job.

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Speaker 2: Interview where you go like once and you meet them,

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Speaker 2: they're like, no, you're not a fit. Like you're put

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Speaker 2: through an entire week of events where they analyze you.

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Speaker 2: Look at your social media, apparently, look at what you're

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Speaker 2: I've learned kind.

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Speaker 1: Of apparently, look at what you're wearing. What you're wearing

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Speaker 1: is a very big deal.

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Speaker 3: Well, here's what I'm hearing.

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Speaker 2: Moms of these girls are some of these girls are

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Speaker 2: even more into it than the girl and so they're like,

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Speaker 2: you need the Arames bracelet with the the Dida earrings,

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Speaker 2: with the Van cleefs and this is what you need

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Speaker 2: to say. And the moms as much like some of

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Speaker 2: these moms are flying and staying there the rush week

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Speaker 2: to basically like be cheerleaders as they're going through, which

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Speaker 2: is just so crazy to me. Can you imagine Cape

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Speaker 2: Capshaw coming down for Gamma Delta week.

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Speaker 1: I don't think so, No, I don't. I don't see

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Speaker 1: it happening. I I mean I saw something my algorithm

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Speaker 1: through me. I mean it didn't. It didn't turn me

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Speaker 1: the tiktoks and I didn't go down the rabbit hole

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Speaker 1: that seems I'm in. No, yeah, you're in. Is that

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Speaker 1: there are actually consultants that, oh, can talk to you

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Speaker 1: before you even get there about which sorority is best.

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Speaker 1: Like it's almost like you did your college applications hopefully

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Speaker 1: which sorority is right for you, and then they shepherd

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Speaker 3: It's called a rush coach.

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Speaker 1: So you know what this is.

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent I said, the algorithm has been feeding me.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it's stuffed. Okay, it's a rush coach.

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Speaker 2: And so some of these girls are online and they're like,

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Speaker 2: I got here and I was going to start rushing,

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Speaker 2: and then everyone was like, oh, when does your rush

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Speaker 2: coach arrive?

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Speaker 1: What? Yes, okay, and what does a rush coach do.

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Speaker 2: Coaching you how to like on the things to say?

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Speaker 2: Apparently there are five bees. Have you heard of the

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Speaker 2: five bees. Oh my god, Oh you're not. These are

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Speaker 2: things you're not supposed you're supposed to avoid talking about.

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Speaker 1: If you're coached, then you're not being authentically yourself. And

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Speaker 1: then you have to the next I mean, you have

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Speaker 1: to keep up the act as much for sure. Why

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Speaker 1: would you pretend to be something that you're not if

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Speaker 1: you actually then have to keep up the act for

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Speaker 1: your in the entirety of your college experience.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is true, but I guess it's almost

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Speaker 2: like I agree, but I guess it's almost like a job,

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Speaker 2: and you go into a job inter you like putting

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Speaker 2: your best foot forward and kind of making it seem

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Speaker 2: definitely making it seem as if like this is the

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Speaker 2: and you might not like it.

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Speaker 3: But I think that these girls have.

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Speaker 2: No idea really what this sorority is really like. I mean,

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Speaker 2: they don't know any of these girls, and they're just

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Speaker 2: sort of like hoping that they get the opportunity to

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Speaker 2: be in whatever sorority it is. And so yes, they're

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Speaker 2: putting their best foot forward, which might not be a

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Speaker 3: So this is what I've heard.

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Speaker 2: You are not supposed to talk about really when you're

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Speaker 2: being interviewed in rush. Okay, you're supposed to avoid boys, ballots,

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Speaker 3: And bucks and oh somebody. I don't know what that is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, believes I even heard Biden. I saw Biden on

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Speaker 2: there one time and it was I was cracking up.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, what if you mentioned Biden? Like, your BID's gone.

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Speaker 3: They're like, get her out of here.

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Speaker 1: So what's the bid?

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Speaker 3: By the way, I don't know what I'm good it is.

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Speaker 1: I think it means you've been you've been selected, you

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Speaker 1: make a business it. I don't know. Do you make

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Speaker 1: a bid for the sorority or does the sorority make

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Speaker 3: I don't know about that.

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Speaker 2: I think the bid is your you bidding. I don't

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Speaker 2: I don't know what it is. But let me tell

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Speaker 1: Is there competition, Like is there a girl who's like

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Speaker 1: the one that all the sororities want to get? Yes?

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Speaker 3: Okay, so it's called the crush.

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Speaker 2: So there's always a girl that's like the sorority crush,

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Speaker 2: and it's like the girl of this season. And what's

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Speaker 2: happening now in twenty twenty five is that these girls,

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Speaker 2: the person that kind of like, you know, is the

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Speaker 2: shiniest newest thing, is becoming a social media sensation from it.

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Speaker 1: But doesn't it just make you feel like, I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is how I feel when people talk about all

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Speaker 1: like what it takes to get into college. I think,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I just wouldn't have gotten in. No, I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't have gotten into college. I wouldn't have gotten into

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Speaker 1: a sorority. I'm in a shame spiral. This is giving

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Speaker 2: And let me tell you, every single morning they're like,

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Speaker 2: this is my fit for the day. It's rush day

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Speaker 2: and I'm wearing and they go through their head to

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Speaker 2: toe fit and it's whatever they're wearing for the day.

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Speaker 1: Is this a show or just a TikTok thing?

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Speaker 2: This is not a TV show. This is just TikTok.

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Speaker 2: This is social media. It's it's like a frenzy online

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Speaker 2: right now. And here's how crazy it is. This is

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Speaker 2: the last thing I'll say about it.

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Speaker 3: But here's how crazy we were in already We're in already.

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Speaker 2: Okay, there are women our age that are posting on

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Speaker 2: TikTok and they're making they're breaking down because they're seeing

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Speaker 2: the TikTok from all the girls that are like rushing that.

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Speaker 2: They're like, Okay, I think this girl's gonna end up

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Speaker 2: with Zeta. This girl's going to be the breakout of

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Speaker 2: the season. And it's almost like a football It's like

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Speaker 2: they're Super Bowl and they know the ins and outs

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Speaker 2: and the backstories and who's you know, who's whose legacy

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Speaker 2: and who's not legacy and why this and there's drama

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Speaker 2: happening behind the scenes and there's it's insane.

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Speaker 1: Can we go back to the five bees?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Okay, the first bee was.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of bees.

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Speaker 1: Honestly it was boys. Okay, so you're not talking, is

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Speaker 1: it like a I think.

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Speaker 2: You're not supposed to be like there. Here's what I'm gathering.

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Speaker 2: This is what I'm assuming is that you're there, Like

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Speaker 2: how are you tell us about yourself being like oh

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Speaker 2: my boy, my boyfriend Craig because they want you to

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Speaker 2: be single. No, I just don't think you make it

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Speaker 2: your whole personality. And sometimes I think the girls or

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Speaker 2: be like, oh my god, what are the boys like here?

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Speaker 3: I think you're just you're all about the girls. You're

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Speaker 3: all about the girl and the friendship and.

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Speaker 1: The sister h the sisterhood. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay.

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Speaker 2: The next one is ballots booze.

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Speaker 3: You don't talk about alcohol.

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Speaker 1: Well because you don't get sloppy.

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Speaker 3: No, and you can't you can't roll up and they're like,

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Speaker 3: how was last night? And you're like, gosh faced, do

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like, we're not going to

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Speaker 1: I don't feel like that's going to curry favor with anyone.

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Speaker 1: Once you're in, by the way, maybe it's a different story.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, once you're in, all of these are fine. The

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Speaker 3: bees are back in.

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Speaker 2: Once you're in, are getting you think they're not talking

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Speaker 2: about boys and booze.

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Speaker 1: You get all your.

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Speaker 3: Bees back and politics.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so yeah that's why maybe Biden was a bee.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Who's going up and being like, you know, how's your day?

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Speaker 3: I just fucking love Biden.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So boos.

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Speaker 3: Okay, booze, Okay.

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Speaker 2: Beliefs and this is beliefs or Bible, So like your

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Speaker 2: religious beliefs off the table, off the table, bucks, I

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Speaker 2: guess how rich you are?

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Speaker 3: Is that what I'm assuming?

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Speaker 1: Like, listen, every everythink you just described where people are,

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Speaker 1: where you've got, you know, you're hiring consultants, and then

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Speaker 1: you're figuring out which Ara mes bracelet you're gonna wear.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm thinking this is reserved for incredibly wealthy people,

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Speaker 2: Well, well what I'm what I'm well, I don't I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but so does an air Mez bracelet.

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Speaker 2: I mean no, yes, I have to say though, like

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Speaker 1: I wonder if it's like that movie some kind of

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, Jessica, I just thought of a I

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Speaker 2: literally just thought of a movie for us. I'm pitching

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna take this podcast to court.

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Speaker 3: Okay, are you ready for this?

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Speaker 2: You and I are exceptionally young moms to eighteen year olds.

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Speaker 3: We don't know how it happened.

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Speaker 1: The Bees.

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Speaker 2: We are rivals and we're sorority. We need those girls

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like Bride Wars but not it's Bride Wars

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Speaker 2: And it's like but moms, but moms, I'm not even kidding.

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Speaker 2: And then our kids don't really care, so maybe we

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Speaker 3: As them almost like what's the movie Never Been Kissed?

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Speaker 1: Well, it's funny because people get all, you know, fiery

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Speaker 1: when when you're they're like, oh my gosh, can't Hollywood

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Speaker 1: using all this ip and remaking stuff. But Bobby said

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Speaker 3: They are amazing?

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Speaker 2: They were she loves I wonder, I'm not kidding, this

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Speaker 1: Well we better get on it, because I feel like

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Speaker 2: We're two moms or we're two rush coaches and we

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can wait. All of a sudden, I just

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Speaker 2: But in the end of the day, we realize the

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Speaker 2: Really really we realize you can talk about the five

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Speaker 3: And that's where the movie ends and the credits roll.

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Speaker 1: And we find and we find love with some professors

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Speaker 2: Yes, oh my god, wait, yes, this is so fantastic.

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Speaker 2: I love this so much, Hollywood.

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Speaker 3: Don't you can steal it? I know how disgusting you are.

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Speaker 1: Well, we just created the ip just now, how's that second? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so already wars and we already said the exact story.

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Speaker 2: The five bes are in there or maybe coaches moms. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: I'm sucked in Bama.

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Speaker 3: Rush on TikTok.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, now I'm gonna go check it out

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Speaker 1: and then we're have's some ideas once I've done that.

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Speaker 1: It's really research, is what it is.

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Speaker 3: It is research. It's crazy.

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Speaker 2: It really feels like sorety super Bowl. And then people

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Speaker 2: You know how when you get into college and you

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Speaker 2: I can't believe I just got into that shitty and

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Speaker 2: God's speed to all of you girls going through this rush.

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Speaker 2: It looks like so much work. Truly, I hope that

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't know, but I'm sure.

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Speaker 1: You've done a lot to get that.

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Speaker 3: So can you see Eve?

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Speaker 2: Are you gonna end up having to be a soorty mom?

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Speaker 1: Oh oh, I know not. After all the things you

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Speaker 1: not gonna lie. You don't. You don't make it sound.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure that it's gotta be fun, otherwise they wouldn't

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Speaker 2: But I think it's fun because you don't know anybody, right,

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Speaker 2: and stuff like that. Yes, no, yes, they do work

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Speaker 1: Steal it down to what the reason that it exists.

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Speaker 1: I think it's probably wonderful. Yeah, all right, well let's

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Speaker 3: End of the episode.