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Speaker 1: Greetings and welcome in here we are back together again.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Sunday, Mike Carmon alongside Dan Byer, back from

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Speaker 1: his summer sojourn where he went in search of the

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Speaker 1: meaning of life, family, friendship and reconnecting with nature at.

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Speaker 2: Large and got stung by a wasp's.

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Speaker 1: But now now we could call you fisto like you're

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Speaker 1: part of the he Man universe.

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Speaker 2: It was. It was much worse than what it is

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Speaker 2: right now. But it's good to be back. Yes, connected

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Speaker 2: with home, which was a great time, but it's also

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Speaker 2: great to be back with you. And as we are

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Speaker 2: about to embark on a new season in the National

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Speaker 2: Football League, which I know how many are excited about.

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Speaker 1: But that's the thing, right trying to get that the

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Speaker 1: juice for football. Like normally it was camp like once

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Speaker 1: upon a time, I did camp visits when I was

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Speaker 1: out living on the East Coast, because I could go

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Speaker 1: end of the day, and you'd go and you'd pop

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Speaker 1: into Latrobe for a day, and the Giants trained in

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Speaker 1: all of an East, so you could just pop around

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Speaker 1: and you kept those contacts up. And then out here

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Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, change a job, kids are old, or

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Speaker 1: all these other responsibilities. I don't get that connection, you know,

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Speaker 1: and that fire of those first whistles the same way.

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Speaker 1: Now they're doing a good job. I know this morning

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Speaker 1: NFL network's doing like the whip around from all the

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Speaker 1: morning practices and all kind of like a dry run

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Speaker 1: for what the Red Zone is channeling.

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Speaker 2: All with yesterday as well. They were here, there and everywhere.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I saw some of the interviews, you know,

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Speaker 1: people Kyle Bramt being out at Bear's camp and everything else.

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Speaker 1: So there's a little juice there. But we were talking

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Speaker 1: a little bit before getting on air, and we'll get

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Speaker 1: deep into the running back issue, because I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: it that it's taking all the oxygen out of the

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Speaker 1: room to a degree. I mean, we got a little

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Speaker 1: breath of Sean Payton this week, which we'll revisit as

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Speaker 1: we go on. But that push into football, I don't

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Speaker 1: know that I'm there yet. I've got a couple of

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Speaker 1: fantasy drafts that are always one's done, one's close to

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Speaker 1: being done. These industry things, you know that they try

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Speaker 1: to disseminate and get a little bit of juice for

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Speaker 1: how people are feeling about different players, but with baseball

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Speaker 1: trade deadline and so many teams still viable, not my

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Speaker 1: White Sox complete cell mode? What else do you want?

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Speaker 2: What else?

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Speaker 1: We got a second basement shortstop. He's hitting the ball

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Speaker 1: well since the second half. Hey, and he hit a

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Speaker 1: home run yesterday. That's right, Tim Anderson, you want to

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Speaker 1: come get him. You got forty eight hours. That's it.

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Speaker 1: That's all that's left of the sale. So like Baseball

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Speaker 1: still taking it and the World Cup games in the

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Speaker 1: middle of the night, the really after leaving my show

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Speaker 1: with Smith in the evenings at eleven PM Pacific, getting

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Speaker 1: home and being able to say, all right, there's seven

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It's been around the clock other things. So football's there,

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Speaker 1: but it's not owning me like perhaps it has in

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Speaker 1: the past.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's the same for me. But I know,

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Speaker 2: like when Week one comes around and when the Thursday

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Speaker 2: night openers in Kansas City with the Lions, we are

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Speaker 2: all going to just kind of exhale that we made

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Speaker 2: it through and that football is back and it's here.

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Speaker 2: I do think that it's it's different. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if it's because Mike that the NFL takes up so much,

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Speaker 2: so much oxygen as well in the off season, because

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Speaker 2: really there is no off season. With the Super Bowl

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Speaker 2: now being in mid February, you're into the combine. A

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Speaker 2: couple of weeks later, the new league year starts, you know,

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Speaker 2: March seventh, give or take, you know, whatever the days

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Speaker 2: Schedule now comes out after the draft, so that takes

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Speaker 2: you to mid May. And so here we are at

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Speaker 2: the end of July and there's still conversations going on

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Speaker 2: in the off season. Dalvin Cook. Yeah, heck, in the

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Speaker 2: news today there are moves that are that are made franchise.

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Speaker 2: We've been talking about running backs, as you mentioned, and

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Speaker 2: the franchise take for the last two weeks. So there

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Speaker 2: really isn't a lot of breadth of you know, a

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Speaker 2: sigh of not of relief, but just of an exhale

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Speaker 2: of all right, we're taking a little break from this

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Speaker 2: because it really has been NonStop. Sands a couple of

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Speaker 2: not to downplay what that is, but I think maybe

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Speaker 1: To be said for that. The goal to be three

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Speaker 1: sixty five has truly occurred, right because all off season movement.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we're tracking Zeke Elliott having dinner with Mac Jones.

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Speaker 1: heard an ILO's update Daniil Hunter a new twenty million

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Speaker 1: dollars one year deal. A lot of speculation during the week,

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Speaker 1: would he finally get dealt because that's been an on again,

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Speaker 1: off again thing. Uh And so I guess Minnesota is

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Speaker 1: a play starting with Dalvin Cook still on his quasi

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Speaker 1: free agency tour, which is more him just showing up

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Speaker 1: I got suitors. I got guys that comes down to money,

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Speaker 2: Did any of the shows call it what's cooking? Here's

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Speaker 2: what's cooking for that? Or his appearance? And I think

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Speaker 2: I was on vacation and I knew that he was

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Speaker 2: everywhere like you, talking about what he wants to do

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Speaker 1: I can't fault a good strategy, right, I mean, because

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Speaker 1: Not to mention when we get into all this, Dan,

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's you play the game of musical chairs.

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Speaker 1: There's so many, so many situations whereby a guy can

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Speaker 1: how do we change that dynamic? And if something happens

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Speaker 1: in season, we've now cut ourselves short of any money

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Speaker 2: You know, I it's not a running back situation, but

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Speaker 2: I think DeAndre Hopkins situation was was not too different

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Speaker 2: Hopkins goes and visits with was it was it two teams.

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Speaker 2: There was just the Patriots and the Titans in the end,

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Speaker 2: give them the most money. It's not like it's there's

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Speaker 2: so if you're a running back, your leverage is already limited.

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Speaker 2: You're hoping that a team is maybe a running back

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor situation, but there's just only so many suitors

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Speaker 2: there's also so many dollars that are and yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: I don't look at Dalvin Cook's signability Mike as a

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Speaker 2: his release by the Vikings is part of the running

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Speaker 2: trying to find a home, which he ultimately did in Nashville.

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Speaker 1: Well, you built your squad, you spent your money, and

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Speaker 1: you're you're also trying to head your bets about the

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Speaker 1: you need to go sign somebody else. And look, we're

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Speaker 1: getting into that point where a lot of teams are

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Speaker 1: at the what do you have left available? Yeah? Seven

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Speaker 2: No, No, it's not what happens.

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Speaker 1: So the only thing that comes down to is, you know,

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Speaker 1: with him and the number of free agents, right, we

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Speaker 1: but I mean the thing that goes unset in most

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Speaker 1: any of his colleagues, but it's just the reality that

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Speaker 1: a cloud of dust. The offenses have changed forever, and

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Speaker 1: those numbers. Guys like Troy Aikman wins a bunch of

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Speaker 1: it's just that curiosity as we get into this, you know,

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Speaker 1: early part of training camp like that, that's where all

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Speaker 1: the oxygen is, right of the guys that are unsigned

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Speaker 2: I also think that there are there's there's something that happened.

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Speaker 2: Actually it's something that didn't happen this offseason is I'm

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Speaker 2: not sure what team outside of really the Jets. Mike

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Speaker 2: maybe the Bills aren't. The Bills could be wrong, but

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Speaker 2: wasn't a tremendous offseason for Buffalo Cincinnati. Now Joe Burrow's

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Speaker 2: We didn't know what was gonna happen with Joe Mixon.

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Speaker 2: He just ends up coming back. You know, there was no.

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Speaker 1: Greatly reduced deal. Yeah he came back.

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Speaker 2: That helped the defense. The rule changes all of just

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Speaker 2: can't do this to the receiver. And it's just empowered

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Speaker 2: the quarterback so much that so much is dependent on

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Speaker 2: that position and the gaps that you may have in

433
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Speaker 2: your team, the deficiencies that you may have in your

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Speaker 2: overall team really can be made up by a superb quarterback.

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Speaker 2: And that's where you put your money. And that's where

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Speaker 2: that's why we've gotten to the point that we've gotten.

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Speaker 2: And now you look at the running back position and

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Speaker 2: I think, and I know we're gonna get into it.

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Speaker 2: I think Jonathan Taylor situation is different for one reason,

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Speaker 2: but not completely exclusive from other running backs. But in

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Speaker 2: the end when you've opened this Pandora's box like you

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Speaker 2: did twelve years ago, and now the running backs are caught.

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Speaker 2: Look at how many things that I have to work

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Speaker 2: for a running back to be successful. You actually need

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Speaker 2: a competent quarterback. You need to have to pay five linemen.

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Speaker 2: You likely probably need a defense that can get stops

447
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Speaker 2: for you and get you know. So like just the

448
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Speaker 2: way that the NFL is now and how the game

449
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Speaker 2: has changed, it's not only just paying the running backs.

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Speaker 2: If you wanted to play that style of football, go,

451
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Speaker 2: you know, go right ahead. But really there's only one

452
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Speaker 2: team that really kind of does it right now. They

453
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Speaker 2: don't even value the running back as much until acquired

454
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Speaker 2: of Christop McCaffrey, and that's the forty nine Ers. I

455
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Speaker 2: think Pete Carroll would like to run the ball, but

456
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Speaker 2: they're also not investing in running backs, you know either.

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Speaker 2: But in the style of play otherwise everybody else is like,

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Speaker 2: all right, we're just gonna put it on our quarterback shoulders.

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Speaker 1: Well, but it becomes the let's have two or three

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Speaker 1: guys behind a good system. Right in San Francisco, it's

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Speaker 1: the machine that you know, for better or for worse,

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Speaker 1: and We've talking about this for a few weeks. Dan

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Speaker 1: go back to the way Denver used to operate. From

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Speaker 1: a fantasy perspective, all you needed was someone to get

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Speaker 1: the nod that they were the number one guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's a thousand yard rusher in that zone blocking scheme,

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Speaker 1: he will be the next yep. Right, And it takes

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Speaker 1: nothing away from the brilliance of what Terrell Davis was.

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Speaker 1: But you look at the years after he retired, how

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Speaker 1: big was the drop off? Quarterback play was dropped off

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Speaker 1: precipitously in the post John Elway world, but the production

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Speaker 1: if you're just going numbers to numbers, and obviously there's

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Speaker 1: the other non or unquantifiable, right, things that go in

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Speaker 1: to some of these players that you know, but a

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Speaker 1: lot of that and measured right back up. So it

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Speaker 1: becomes a difficult thing now that the deal in twenty eleven,

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Speaker 1: you know, to get into the minute of it was

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Speaker 1: it was about the years, right, The years of control

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Speaker 1: is the bigger part of that Pandora's box. When we

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Speaker 1: talk about the length of an average career. The franchise

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Speaker 1: tag is a whole other demon. You fought for it,

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Speaker 1: your union, voted for it, and then you're mad that

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Speaker 1: you're getting the average at the top five guys, right,

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Speaker 1: I get it keeps the ceiling, you know, from getting

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Speaker 1: too high and everything else. There's a whole lot of

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Speaker 1: other mechanisms going on, but that control to where through

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Speaker 1: your rookie deal into franchise tags. Well, most guys aren't

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Speaker 1: getting to the franchise tag level, you know, to that

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Speaker 1: year as a viable but like if they come in

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Speaker 1: as a starter year one, they may be chewed up

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Speaker 1: before you even get to that.

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Speaker 2: Well sure, would you say that every position outside of

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Speaker 2: running back in the NFL as it can be a

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Speaker 2: ten year position.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, every other player has that opportunity.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, wide receiver for sure. Tackles absolutely, If you

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Speaker 2: get a tackle, you want to keep them around for

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Speaker 2: as long as you can. And that's that's the problem.

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Speaker 2: That's part of that Pandora's box where it looked like

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Speaker 2: everybody maybe would benefit. All right, you get a deal

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Speaker 2: that now keeps you under contract four if you're a

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Speaker 2: first round pick for those five years. The problem is,

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Speaker 2: isn't a running back now if they had the ability

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Speaker 2: to renegotiate or get the new deal or opt out

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Speaker 2: or become free agents after the two after two years,

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Speaker 2: say or three years, Yeah, then it's a completely different story.

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Speaker 2: But you know, to be put under especially if you're

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Speaker 2: a first round pick under that. Heck, even I don't

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Speaker 2: even want to say five years, because we didn't even

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Speaker 2: know what we're doing with Josh Jacobs after four you know,

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Speaker 2: like but you know, maybe the time to cash in

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Speaker 2: the chips or the running backs? What was after year two?

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Speaker 2: And then you get your money for your seven years

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Speaker 2: because even ten years, just looking at it seems pretty absurd.

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Speaker 1: Well, and as we've discussed, you know, one point with

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Speaker 1: Jacobs's remember they didn't even pick up his fifty year option.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's so, that's how much he was in the eye.

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Speaker 1: We don't know what he is, yep, and how valuable

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Speaker 1: he is. But to the point about the union as

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Speaker 1: a whole, it is a different animal trying to talking

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Speaker 1: about the longevity of guys and their motives, motivations of

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Speaker 1: what in anything that's presented and the guys we've talked to, right,

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Speaker 1: you talk to XNFL players and I have here on

524
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Speaker 1: the network, the level of dissemination of information is so deplorable, right,

525
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Speaker 1: highlight things because your union rep for your team. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot to filter out, so it's going to be

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Speaker 1: skewed by what's important to him to a degree, and

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Speaker 1: he may give you the giant file, but a lot

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Speaker 1: of guys are going to rely on the cliff notes

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Speaker 1: version of what's coming down. And the motivations for the

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Speaker 1: fifteen year quarterback who's made four hundred million dollars whatever

532
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Speaker 1: is going to be different than the guy fighting for

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Speaker 1: a roster spot, the guy who doesn't know if a

534
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Speaker 1: second contract is going to show up when we start

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Speaker 1: talking about health benefits and whatever else. The guys on

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Speaker 1: that side of it are very much in the I

537
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Speaker 1: need every dime I can get now because I've got

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Speaker 1: a short window to make this revenue. You got the

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Speaker 1: guys in the middle to where they can have some

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Speaker 1: of the longer term considerations come in, and then you

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Speaker 1: got the guys at the top where they're more concerned

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Speaker 1: about the all Right, can I keep a team around

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Speaker 1: me that I can win? I got my money, what's

544
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Speaker 1: going on in my secondary life outside of the NFL

545
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Speaker 1: that I can keep brand building and selling? And people

546
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Speaker 1: go back at Patrick Mahomes this week after the Herbert deal,

547
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Speaker 1: like I wish people would stop doing this for Mahomes,

548
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Speaker 1: for Brady. They're different guys. They're outliers. They didn't depress

549
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Speaker 1: a marketplace for quarterbacks because you can go in and ask, hey,

550
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Speaker 1: Tom Brady takes less. Will you do that to help us? No, okay,

551
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: asked an answered, let's negotiate a deal, right, Nobody else

552
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Speaker 1: is doing that.

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Speaker 2: Do you root for work stoppages? I don't, Okay. I

554
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Speaker 2: was gonna say, it's like, maybe you do. You know,

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Speaker 2: douse want them to stand their ground. And I think

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Speaker 2: when they're are work stoppages, we end up blaming players

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Speaker 2: instead of like the own instead of owners. We don't

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Speaker 2: we when there's a work stoppage in baseball, they're the

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Speaker 2: ones that we see. They're the ones that provide the

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Speaker 2: sport that we watch. And I also feel like that

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Speaker 2: is like when there's when there is a thread of

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Speaker 2: a work stoppage or the threat of losing in that

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Speaker 2: case NFL games, we're not looking at Jerry Jones and

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Speaker 2: Stan Kronkey and Bob Kraft and being like you guys

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Speaker 2: were looking like, hey, players get out on the field

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Speaker 2: and play football, you know. And I think like public

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Speaker 2: pressure to get a deal done I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 2: It may have zero effect on a union. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: But I just feel like when in the chairs that

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Speaker 2: we so many of us sit in and watching TV

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Speaker 2: and our fans of football, that when it comes to that,

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Speaker 2: we always are like, all right, players, just accept the deal.

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Speaker 2: We don't want to, you know, have a work stoppage.

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Speaker 2: So like when I say that you're cheer for a workstop,

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Speaker 2: it is actually a positive thing in saying for it,

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Speaker 2: of like hold out for your better deal, even though

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Speaker 2: the pressure is immense for the players to get back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say this right because we are in

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles and we've got plenty of different workstoppages going on.

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Speaker 1: So I will address that. But first we've got to

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Speaker 1: turn it over to our guy, Isaac LOLNCRON. We got

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Speaker 1: to find out what is trending in our sporting universe

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Speaker 1: at this early hour.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, fellas I Boddy. Indeed, we already have fresh

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Speaker 3: NFL news at this early hour. That is the way

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Speaker 3: to do it. Because NFL media reported a shut short

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Speaker 3: time ago. The three time Pro Bowl pass rusher at

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Speaker 3: Daneil Hunters agreed to a new one year, twenty million

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Speaker 3: dollar deal with the Minnesota Viking seventeen million guaranteed a

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Speaker 3: no tag clause included Hunters Now previous deal had a

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Speaker 3: making five point five million dollars this season, so he's

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Speaker 3: had a good morning. Detroit Lions head coach Dan Campbell

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Speaker 3: said this morning offensive tackle Pina Sul is in con

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Speaker 3: cushion protocol, but could return to practice as soon as Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: Boxing Saturday night, Terrence Crawford a ninth round TKO over

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Speaker 3: Aerol Spence Junior to win the welterweight title Women's World Cup. Overnight,

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Speaker 3: Colombia a dramatic two to one victory over Germany. Germany

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Speaker 3: tied the match at one with a penalty kick goal

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Speaker 3: in the eighty ninth minute, but Columbia would win it

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Speaker 3: with a goal in second half stoppage time. Norway blew

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Speaker 3: out the Philippines six to nothing to advance to the

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Speaker 3: knockout round over co host country in New Zealand via

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Speaker 3: a gold differential tiebreaker. In Major League Baseball, on Saturday night,

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Speaker 3: the Texas Rangers acquired three times Cy Young Award winner

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Speaker 3: Max Scherzer from the New York Mets. After Scherzer waived

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Speaker 3: his no trade clause on the Field. Saturday night, the

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Speaker 3: Los Angeles Dodgers defeated the Cincinnati Reds three to two.

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Speaker 3: The Dodgers had just two hits in the entire game,

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Speaker 3: a two run home run by Max Munsey in the

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Speaker 3: first inning at a solo home run by Monsey in

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Speaker 3: the sixth inning.

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Speaker 1: That was it.

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Speaker 4: That was enough.

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Speaker 3: First time in Doddres history since RBI started being tracked

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Speaker 3: in nineteen twenty that they've had the same player have

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Speaker 3: all their hits in a game and drive in all

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Speaker 3: their runs in a.

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Speaker 1: Game and win.

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Speaker 4: Fellas back to you.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you, Ilo at Isaac Low and Crown where you

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Speaker 1: find them there. He called the win for Angels City

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Speaker 1: yesterday a thriller. Yes, in the midst of the Women's

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Speaker 1: World Cup. We still have the NWSL rolling on and

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Speaker 1: that Taylor Swift shouldn't do her shows here. Over the

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Speaker 1: next week, you've got other workers that are fighting back

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Speaker 1: on that. But where there's maybe some differences and nuances

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Speaker 1: to get into the differences of potential workstoppages, We'll get

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Speaker 1: been watching a lot of Law and Order before we

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Speaker 1: went to Ilo Dan about unions and work stoppages. I

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Speaker 1: think there's spots where the business has fundamentally changed to

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Speaker 1: where old deals don't apply. And we have a lot

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Speaker 1: of that in Hollywood right now, where I can take

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Speaker 1: enough of your vocal content. I mean, hell, I got

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Speaker 1: Frank Sinatras singing with Ai. I got him singing jay

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Speaker 1: Z songs. Right, I mean, there's a lot I can

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Speaker 1: do digital manipulation and depending on the contract that I've signed, right,

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Speaker 1: you have no idea what's coming down the road fifteen

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Speaker 1: years from now that all of a sudden, all of

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Speaker 1: what I did, I'm not making any extra money. And

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Speaker 1: you can repurpose, rebrand, and that's the deals you sign.

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Speaker 1: But you can only look ahead in the future. So

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Speaker 1: much so some of the stoppages that we have on

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Speaker 1: the Hollywood side, you know, trying to understand that. It's like, no,

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Speaker 1: there's just a fundamental difference in the business right from

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Speaker 1: TV and movies now with streaming services and all these

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Speaker 1: different angles with football's football, And you just reratified a

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Speaker 1: CBA two years ago that nothing changed for the running.

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Speaker 2: Backs in two years, Well, I felt like I felt

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Speaker 2: like the like the by twenty twenty, the deal with

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Speaker 2: like the running back position was already But that's it.

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Speaker 1: Right before this new before it got ratified again for

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Speaker 1: another ten years, this was already done. Right, you'd already

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Speaker 1: seen the change of the game. Now, that didn't mean

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Speaker 1: a couple of guys didn't get paid and that and

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Speaker 1: that again goes to the larger world. There's outliers, right,

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Speaker 1: we can do the same job. And maybe you know,

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Speaker 1: for whatever reason, depending no matter what job you do,

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Speaker 1: perhaps there's you know, something in your performance, management's opinion, whatever,

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Speaker 1: that you get a little bit of extra money. But

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Speaker 1: in McCaffrey got his deal, re got his deal, whatever.

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Speaker 1: But those guys are rarefied air, right I mean, And

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Speaker 1: and take nothing away from Saquon Barkley. Not every owner

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Speaker 1: is gonna take the same approach, take the same tact

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Speaker 1: and say, you know what, You're integral to what we

693
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Speaker 1: do here, and we need to make good now with

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Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley, a lot of talk. He was gonna hold out,

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Speaker 1: he was gonna be gone. It took twenty four hours.

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Speaker 1: Like Jason and I signed off at eleven o'clock on

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Speaker 1: the one night and it was like, all right, here's

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Speaker 1: the latest talk. We get back. You know, I wake

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Speaker 1: up the next morning and it's done.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be completely honest because I do feel that

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Speaker 2: I do know about football. I didn't even know you

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Speaker 2: could do that. Like I thought like he was like

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Speaker 2: sets and locked in. That's right, yes, Like I was like, wait, wait,

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Speaker 2: what like you can do that? Well, then maybe why

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Speaker 2: are other teams? I was completely like, right, oh okay,

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Speaker 2: wait wait I got to learn something new today.

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Speaker 1: Well but that's like there's always nuances and look, nobody's

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Speaker 1: like I don't I don't even know if I could

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Speaker 1: get a copy to see all the nuances of the CBA.

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Speaker 1: But like, here's two million dollars up front. Okay, So

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Speaker 1: he gets his money before he's done anything, right, he

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Speaker 1: gets a month to go and whatever he wants to do.

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Speaker 1: Go buy another house, go spend it, go, pay off debt,

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Speaker 1: whatever he's got to do. But they did a ma

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Speaker 1: solid there and then he's got another nine hundred thousand

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Speaker 1: dollars of incentives. But he decided that was the deal

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Speaker 1: good enough for him. He was ready to play football

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Speaker 1: because even when he made his comments about hey, I

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Speaker 1: didn't sound like that's where his heart was. Like. It

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Speaker 1: sounded like this was a guy that wanted to be

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Speaker 1: in the locker room and back on the field, and

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Speaker 1: that the business of it was more a nuisance than

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Speaker 1: anything else. And so they got to this deal, and look,

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Speaker 1: they still reserved the right to tag him like he

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Speaker 1: didn't fight to push that off, which is another thing,

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Speaker 1: a permutation of this where he could have gotten that

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Speaker 1: in writing, right, because Aaron Rodgers, when he redid his

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Speaker 1: deal and gave back all that money, one of the

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Speaker 1: things was you can't tag me, you can't trade me,

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Speaker 1: and you can't tag me. So it's there and available

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Speaker 1: to you. Now it's just a matter of, all, right,

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Speaker 1: how much is about the dollars and cents versus feeling

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Speaker 1: like the team is in your corner?

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Speaker 2: So do you root for work? Stoppages. No, no, he

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Speaker 2: does not.

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Speaker 1: I wish everybody would recognize where they're at the table.

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Speaker 1: But if it's necessary, then sure, but they're not going

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Speaker 1: to do it for one position. We'll talk about that

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Speaker 1: more as we continue here running backs the world in

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Speaker 1: day dan Byer, before coming into the office. I was

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Speaker 1: walking my dog at about four point fifteen this morning

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Speaker 1: and there was a big shadow down the street. Coyotes

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Speaker 1: have been found in the area, and I'm like, is

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Speaker 1: that what I'm getting ready to walk into with my

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Speaker 1: little appetizer sized dog? And fortunately, by time we got

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Speaker 1: maybe I singing Taylor Swift a little loudly along with

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Speaker 1: what I was listening to on my radio, probably much

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Speaker 1: to the chagrin of the neighbors, maybe scared away, said shadow.

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Speaker 1: It was a nice moment to start your day, get

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Speaker 1: the adrenaline pumping.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I'd be happy or frightened to

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Speaker 2: see the coyote, because there's a lot that you could

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Speaker 2: see at four am. A varying shadow. Yeah, could be,

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Speaker 2: you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I've run into the packs of raccoons and

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Speaker 1: other things before, but this was I.

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Speaker 2: Was thinking of a shady assailant. Oh okay, but I

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Speaker 2: was hoping, hoping not to sittes.

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Speaker 1: I can't say I've really thought about the assailant part

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Speaker 1: until now, Dan. I was more worried about, you know,

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Speaker 1: things that go bump in the night.

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Speaker 2: Well maybe in the moments when you saw the shadow.

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Speaker 2: But the shadow that I envisioned when he said it,

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Speaker 2: oh okay, it was maybe a longer, taller one. Someone

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Speaker 2: up to no good.

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Speaker 1: Well that's really all you can do unless you're getting

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Speaker 1: of laughing in Indianapolis this morning with Jonathan Taylor. He

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, we're gonna talk ponies, but it's gonna

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Speaker 2: be Colts, but it's also going to be Broncos. Just

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Speaker 2: for a second, because you mentioned as we're having this

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Speaker 2: running back conversation on the show today and you mentioned

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Speaker 2: Torell the days of Trell Davis to the Denver Broncos,

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Speaker 2: and I just have to mention because it was so unique.

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Speaker 2: There was a time where we thought, man, the running

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Speaker 2: back is so crucial to a team's success, and it was.

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Speaker 2: It was mid nineties to the late nineties. Davis leads

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Speaker 2: the Broncos in rushing for four straight seasons, capped off

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Speaker 2: by his two thousand yard season in nineteen ninety eight.

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Speaker 2: You ready for the following names this? I know you

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Speaker 2: know the name. I know you know the names, and

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Speaker 2: if you're listening and you're a football fan, you will

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Speaker 2: know the names as well. But this should help you

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Speaker 2: in your immaculate grid NFL version when you hear some

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Speaker 2: of these names. The nineteen ninety nine leader in rushing

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Speaker 2: for the Broncos orlandis Gary. I think Mike Anderson was,

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Speaker 2: was any of the former marine that was he was yeah,

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Speaker 2: he was. He was the poster guy of like, hey,

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Speaker 2: look you could bring in this guy and he could

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Speaker 2: come in and lead the Broncos in rushing. Then you

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Speaker 2: had Terrell Davis lead it in two thousand and one,

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Speaker 2: but with only seven hundred yards. Then you have the

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Speaker 2: Clinton Portis trade with uh, you had Clinton Portis in

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Speaker 2: excuse me, in two thousand and two and two thousand

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Speaker 2: and three. Then you have the Clinton Portis trade, Ruben

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Speaker 2: drum Ozones, Mike Anderson again, Tatum Bell, Selvin Young, and

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Speaker 2: then we kind of enter the Peyton Hill has actually

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Speaker 2: led them in rushing in two thousand and eight with

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Speaker 2: three hundred and forty three yards.

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Speaker 1: The Selvin Young days to remember the hype machine there

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Speaker 1: given the Broncos success, but I mean you go down

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Speaker 1: that list of players and to varying levels of success.

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Speaker 1: But for to tie it to the music world, you know,

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Speaker 1: the one hit wonders, Right, Hey, we can get a

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Speaker 1: year out of this guy, all right, he wants to

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Speaker 1: know you don't get a different deal next guy in

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Speaker 1: so and you're right, Anderson part of the Marine Corps.

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Speaker 2: All right, there, that's like, but those are the names,

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Speaker 2: and that's and Mike maybe that was the transition. Maybe

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Speaker 2: that was really the start of all of it, because

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Speaker 2: you thought, man, look at Terrell Davis and look at

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Speaker 2: what he can do, and then you just see the

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Speaker 2: cast of characters. And I don't mean that in a

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Speaker 2: joking away. It was the variety of different names that

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Speaker 2: just popped in and had a successful stint at least

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Speaker 2: with Denver. Maybe not to the extent of what Terrell

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Speaker 2: Davis did, but there were just a lot of names,

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Speaker 2: and I just remember playing in fantasy football, you just

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Speaker 2: if you had the Denver running back, you felt, you

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Speaker 2: felt okay at least well or.

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Speaker 1: You you also might have had to invest two or

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Speaker 1: three slots, right, because you didn't know which guy was

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Speaker 1: going to emerge coming out of training camp when you're

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Speaker 1: doing your drafts and doing all that that processing, which

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Speaker 1: guy was going to emerge as the number one. But

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Speaker 1: it does show even going back to the late nineties

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Speaker 1: early two thousands, you'd had a bit of a sea

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Speaker 1: shift in terms of the running back position. And we

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Speaker 1: can go team to team right where you've always had

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Speaker 1: a second guy around a third guy. We talk about

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Speaker 1: it now when we have quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: We went into the thousand yard rushers where you had

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Speaker 1: justin Fields find his way in. This last year was

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Speaker 1: an outlier in terms of recent years of how many

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Speaker 1: thousand yard rushers we had, but you had an extra game.

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Speaker 1: So how much does that change it?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 1: Because now you need to average what fifty eight yards

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Speaker 1: a game to get to that?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: Once upon a time, those TOPS inserts seemed like a

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Speaker 2: They're awesome.

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Speaker 1: They are in PSA tens. Very difficult because you know

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Speaker 1: So go find yourself a center versus like finding a

860
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 1: centered Ozzie Smith Rookie guard or a Jerry Rice eighty

861
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: six Tops that doesn't have print marks on it. Good

862
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: luck with all of that, because again, no competition, quality

863
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:45,760
Speaker 1: will suffer. But I wanted to get into the Jonathan

864
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 1: Taylor situation because there's a lot going on here and

865
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: we've had owners being a bit bolder and chirpier on

866
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: these issues than perhaps a they should, but be then

867
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:02,240
Speaker 1: we're used to. And so when we look at Jonathan

868
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 1: Taylor in his situation, but between ersa Jerry Jones talking

869
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: a little bit about Zach Martin because we gotta remember

870
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 1: there's other guys that are still in these hold out

871
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: situations as well. But it all comes back to the

872
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: same thing. Eventually, you want your five hundred thousand dollars

873
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: paycheck for showing up to work. Right, the the threat

874
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: of the holdout in late July, it's there and it's

875
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: the card you can play. But when the rubber hits

876
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 1: the road and we're into September and game checks are

877
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 1: gonna be lost, it's a much different animal.

878
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 2: Jerry Jones in his comments already mentioning how they're gonna

879
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 2: have to pay Micah Parsons. Yeah, you know, it's just

880
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 2: like but but there's also there's also like the class

881
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 2: of doing so. Like it's all understood. But paying Micah

882
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 2: Parsons has nothing to do with Zach Martin.

883
00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: No, no, it does not.

884
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 2: It's to Zach Martin. I'll tell that well.

885
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: And also you know, mentioning, well, you know you give

886
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: all this money to the quarterbacks. Yeah, like that that's

887
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 1: now the default. Well, I mean I gotta pay that guy.

888
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 2: That's that's a that's a them problem, that's not a Zach.

889
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 3: No.

890
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: And that's right, Zach Martin's going I do my thing,

891
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: and I make this machine churn. Let's hear from Jim irsay,

892
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: as Iowa, Sam's wandering, He's wandering through the desert. Sorry, Sam,

893
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: can we hear Jim irsay, really quick?

894
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 2: If I die tonight and Jonathan Taylor's the league, no

895
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 2: one's gonna miss us. The league goes on. I mean,

896
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 2: you know, we know that the National.

897
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 4: Football rolls on. It doesn't matter.

898
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,399
Speaker 2: You know who who comes and who goes.

899
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: Well, I mean again, it's an understood proposition there. And

900
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 1: I saw, you know, plenty of folks, the usual suspects

901
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 1: doing me. Well, what qualifications do you have for own

902
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 1: rather than having money? It's like that's a that's a

903
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 1: pretty big qualification. Yeah, right, bloodlines and you know having

904
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: so much champion or whatever. That's kind of a big deal.

905
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 2: Is not a You can't major sports team ownership at

906
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 2: a university.

907
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: No, Yeah, I don't get to just walk in the door.

908
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: I got my degree. Yeah, give me a team I

909
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: could run it. No, I like there is something to

910
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: be said that just to dismiss that. And yes, guys

911
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 1: can be terrible owners, and maybe you take some personal

912
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: onus on this, but like that's the quote that started

913
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 1: to get its round and people like it's disrespectful to

914
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,879
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor and whatever. It's like, No, it's a guy

915
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: speaking the brass tacks of the business, which we all understand,

916
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: but it's uncomfortable to hear it. Right and again to

917
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 1: your Zach Martin point, for Jonathan Taylor, that doesn't matter.

918
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: My time is now to earn my money and I've

919
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,479
Speaker 1: been I've given up my body to try to help

920
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 1: lead this team while you've played musical chairs with your quarterback.

921
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 1: You got your drinking buddy to come in and coach

922
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 1: for a year and whatever else.

923
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 2: What Jim Mersey said may be true, but I don't

924
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 2: think it has anything to do with Jonathan Taylor's situation.

925
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 2: I am. I'm one hundred percent on Jonathan Taylor's side

926
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 2: on this, and I just feel that Jim Irsay has

927
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 2: taking this personally, that Jim Mersay feels a bit attacked

928
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 2: that star player doesn't want to be in Indianapolis. But

929
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 2: it's not that he doesn't want to be in Indianapolis.

930
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 2: It is tied to everything that we've talked about over

931
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 2: the last hour. In this running back position, Mike, if

932
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,760
Speaker 2: you're Jonathan Taylor right now is on the pup list.

933
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 2: What first of all, what leveraged you do? You have

934
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 2: not much? Second of all, it's something that you know

935
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 2: you mentioned earlier with you know, with the running backs

936
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 2: and the health that we've seen throughout the NFL Dalvin Cook.

937
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 2: One of the reasons why he probably hasn't signed yet

938
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 2: and got the money that he's wanted is because a

939
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:55,760
Speaker 2: fear of injury. It's been in his career. Sakwan Barkley

940
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,760
Speaker 2: probably didn't get his long term deal from the Giants

941
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 2: because of his previous history with injury. Now you're Jonathan Taylor,

942
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 2: and the timing may seem awful, But what stinks for

943
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor, Mike, and the reason why I'm with him,

944
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 2: is there is no way Jonathan Taylor is going to

945
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 2: match the numbers that he had two years ago. No,

946
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 2: it's not going to happen. And now you have a

947
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 2: quarterback that you have drafted fourth overall that we'll also

948
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 2: guess what, take some of those rushing yards, take some

949
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 2: of those rushing touchdowns. So if Jonathan Taylor plays a

950
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 2: full seventeen game season and is fully healthy, you're gonna

951
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 2: look at it and say, well, the numbers didn't match

952
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 2: up to twenty twenty one. There's just maybe not the

953
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 2: same running back. If he plays seventeen games, you're also

954
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 2: saying there's seventeen more games on the tread of those tires.

955
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 2: If he gets hurt, you're saying, well, he gets hurt again.

956
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:57,320
Speaker 2: There's not a lot of places that Jonathan Taylor can turn,

957
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 2: and I think the presence of Anthony Richardson is a

958
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 2: is a huge one because Jonathan Taylor is just not

959
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:06,959
Speaker 2: going to be able to match what he once did.

960
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 2: So why not try to find a spot even if

961
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 2: there is mentioned maybe only be one or two teams

962
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 2: out there that could be looking for a running back

963
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,280
Speaker 2: right now and feels that it's essential for their team

964
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 2: if those teams are willing to do so. I think

965
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:25,439
Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor is different than Dalvin Cook. I would rather

966
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 2: have Jonathan Taylor younger, I more of a future, whether

967
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,359
Speaker 2: that future is two or three years. But I just

968
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 2: I can't blame Jonathan Taylor. I'm one hundred percent on

969
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 2: the side because it's not personal. He's in a bad

970
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 2: spot and if you let it go any longer, his

971
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 2: value is just going to diminish.

972
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, So he's on under contract through twenty three. Next

973
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 1: year is when he makes what you would call some

974
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 1: real money. Right, there's thus far on the rookie deal

975
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,839
Speaker 1: for twenty Actually he's gonna make it this year. I'm sorry.

976
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 1: He's an unrestricted free agent next year, so four point

977
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 1: three million. Again, it's all relative and trying to look

978
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 1: at what your highest guys are making when you look

979
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 1: at Henry, when you look at McCaffrey, and obviously there's

980
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: a massive gap there. So I understand the frustration and

981
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: knowing that you're probably gonna get tagged is the But

982
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 1: at this point you may have deteriorated the relationship enough.

983
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 1: But like Jim Eversay is still going to look out

984
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: for his best interest, which means the tag is gonna

985
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 1: get placed. As much as folks can say, well they don't,

986
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: they don't get see eye to eye, it's never going

987
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: to go that round. It's like, still if he plays

988
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 1: and goes through the season and has a good season,

989
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,479
Speaker 1: that you're still gonna want him around. I was using

990
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 1: the Eight Men out analogy. There's the Black Sox Scandal

991
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: in one of the things that kind of gets into it.

992
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 1: One of the classic films great book, but adapted well

993
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 1: and you see it late night television quite often. But

994
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: there's a great scene where one of the principles David

995
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: strathn play is Eddie Seacott, and towards the end of

996
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: the year he goes in to say, hey, I didn't

997
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 1: get my bonus. It's like, well, you won twenty nine games.

998
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: Goes well, you didn't play me here, so you have

999
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:13,879
Speaker 1: a twenty nine is not thirty. So the agreed upon

1000
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 1: bonus was to win thirty games, which we laugh at now.

1001
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 1: I mean, we're happy to get a guy to double

1002
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 1: digit wins in Major League baseball talking about how things

1003
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 1: have changed, but the importance of that position has never

1004
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: been more. But just the idea that when we get

1005
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 1: into inteative base things, you know, the math can get

1006
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: a little bit funny, but also just the idea on

1007
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: the ownership side of all right, what have you done

1008
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 1: for me and what's the measuring stick to get to

1009
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: that next level? And to your point on Taylor, looking

1010
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: at his past performance, it's all changed. You now, in theory,

1011
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 1: have the quarterback of your future as opposed to the

1012
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 1: stopgap solutions that you've tried to win with.

1013
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,919
Speaker 2: I would even and if I'm Ersa and if I'm

1014
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 2: Chris Ballard and the cold would I would look into it.

1015
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 2: And again that's not a knock on Jonathan Taylor either,

1016
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 2: and I'm completely on his side. If your future is

1017
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson, then you know what, whatever you could maybe

1018
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 2: get for Jonathan Taylor could help Anthony Richardson. Unless you

1019
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 2: feel that Jonathan Taylor is the one bee that Anthony

1020
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 2: Richardson needs for him to succeed. I just it's it's

1021
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,879
Speaker 2: a tough spot. It completely ties into everything that's going

1022
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 2: on right now, but the timing is right now for

1023
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor to do this, and I just feel that

1024
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 2: Ers just completely took it personally when it is all

1025
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 2: about business.

1026
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 1: I remember, you're still burned by the fact that Andrew

1027
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: Luck walked away. He may never get over that in

1028
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 1: terms of personal relationship. As much as Luck can be

1029
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 1: around the team and be around the facility when he

1030
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 1: wants to pop in and whatever. I mean, that was

1031
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 1: your future. That was the guy. And you go back

1032
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 1: and I know about two weeks ago it became in

1033
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 1: vogue to start talking think about Andrew Luck's Hall of

1034
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 1: Fame worthiness. I just always wonder about what that second

1035
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: half of the career might have been, how Geddy continued,

1036
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 1: and I think Jim irsay, that's that's one that's going

1037
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 1: to stick with him forever.

1038
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 2: They made the right decision at the time, but to

1039
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,399
Speaker 2: see how Peyton Manning ended his career and to see

1040
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 2: what ended up happening with Andrew Luck. I think that

1041
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 2: the question when we look long term at the Colts

1042
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:30,439
Speaker 2: is knowing what you know, would you have then made

1043
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 2: would you the four years you got from Peyton would

1044
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 2: have included if that resume was two super Bowl appearances,

1045
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 2: one super Bowl win in one of those seasons was

1046
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 2: a record setting season where you know, he set the

1047
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 2: passing records. So looking back at that, that's what I

1048
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 2: think is also interesting. Plus it just amazes me and

1049
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 2: how much mileage the Broncos are getting out of Peyton

1050
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 2: Manning being a former Bronco the four years, Yes, like

1051
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 2: there are gonna be kids growing up that obviously won't

1052
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,319
Speaker 2: remember him as a Colts quarterback, but like that's he's

1053
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 2: got the statue ots out of Indianapolis, Like that's that's

1054
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 2: always the crazy thing that means because he stayed in Denver,

1055
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 2: you know, we see him at Nuggets games.

1056
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,399
Speaker 1: You know, look at the fortune he made out there. Yeah,

1057
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 1: because he bought all those pizza plays right as weed

1058
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: was getting legalized. Oh, you want to talk about timing

1059
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 1: and watching which way the proverbial wind is blowing? Peyton Manning,

1060
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 1: We said it at the time, Say it now. That

1061
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: was super genius. Following the Shaquille O'Neal portfolio management.

1062
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 2: That's the Andrew Luck conversation. Really, knowing what you know now,

1063
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 2: would the Colts really have moved on? I don't. I

1064
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 2: don't know. I think that I think they would have

1065
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 2: maybe had second thoughts.

1066
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:46,800
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Speaker 1: running back discussion. Something that happened this week in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: When the quiet part gets set out loud and you

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Speaker 1: know this in your own life. When you hear an apology,

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Speaker 1: is it a real apology? We'll talk about it next year.

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Speaker 1: Mike and Dan on Fox.

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Speaker 4: You know me, I'm a perfectious guys.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Fox Sports Radio Live Forthdirac dot Com Studios.

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Speaker 1: It's Fox Sports Sunday, Mike Harmon alongside Dan Byer. Find

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Speaker 1: us in the twitterverse x whatever we're calling it these days.

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Speaker 1: I know a lot of controversy. Now. They've got a

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Speaker 2: I will say this, I did. I did notice on

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Speaker 2: ESPN this morning that there was in the in the

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Speaker 2: top ten highlights. Somehow they were able to decipher Mike

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Speaker 2: that this awesome catching in Frisbee football was the fifth

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Speaker 2: best play oh yesterday. Yeah, apparently it wasn't good enough

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Speaker 2: to get the fourth, but it was much better than six.

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Speaker 2: So this was fifth.

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Speaker 1: But but that rugby play at six was pretty sick.

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Speaker 2: I just I think that the top ten plays is

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Speaker 2: just so. I just am not a fan. The point

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Speaker 2: being is they showed this catch in this Frisbee football game,

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Speaker 2: which was a pretty cool catch, for sure, But it

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Speaker 2: came from a Twitter page, and so the source and

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Speaker 1: buying should be a lot of running back conversation and

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Speaker 1: the Jets really taking most of the oxygen in the

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Speaker 1: football world. I see that you've got a fantasy magazine

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Speaker 1: at you or side there. We'll get into a little

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Speaker 1: fantasy talk because the running back position right now, how

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Speaker 1: nervous are you that you're running back actually decides to

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Speaker 1: follow through without play.

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Speaker 2: There are two players on the cover. One of them

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Speaker 2: is a running back, the other is a wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: No quarterbacks on this cover.

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Speaker 1: So you could still get on a cover of a

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Speaker 1: magazine that's got to have some value. Maybe it doesn't.

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Speaker 1: But Sean Payton who said the quiet part out loud

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Speaker 1: right uncomfortable moments talking about what he inherited, and we

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Speaker 1: all watched it in Denver unfold last year and look,

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Speaker 1: plenty of blame to go around. You saw the dwindling

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Speaker 1: successes of Russell Wilson, and we understood that the coaching

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Speaker 1: side of it was difficult, as soon as you're going

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Speaker 1: and hiring people to help you with your in game management.

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Speaker 1: Right as your season begins and you recognize that that's

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Speaker 1: part of the process that you don't have, you know,

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Speaker 1: properly handled in terms of getting plays into the huddle

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Speaker 1: and everything else, you know that you're in for a

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Speaker 1: bumpy ride. We were talking a little bit about turbulence

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Speaker 1: so uh and and air air travel in the break,

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Speaker 1: So it only fits to put it in in this situation.

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Speaker 1: You had a couple of injuries to your offense that

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Speaker 1: factored huge. No Tim Patrick, who'd become a go to

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Speaker 1: kind of uh, sit down third down receiver and could

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Speaker 1: stretch the field. And then Gavonte Williams being hurt again

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Speaker 1: the old running back Bulls got hurt, right, Bowles gets hurt.

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Speaker 1: Like you're losing a number of key contributors. But Sean

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Speaker 1: Payton early in the week just excoriating the former regime

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Speaker 1: and and Nathaniel Hackett and everything that had been done.

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Speaker 1: And then as you know, you want.

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Speaker 2: To do yeah, and when he did that in George

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Speaker 2: peyton ownership, everybody was put into that skate. Those scathing

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Speaker 2: comments that he made to USA today, I think I

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Speaker 2: think you said, like like twenty twenty people were were

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Speaker 2: you know, had their hands oh yeah in this. And

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Speaker 2: then you had media members go on Twitter saying this

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Speaker 2: is calculated. Sean Payton knows what he's doing. Multiple media members,

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Speaker 2: those that covered him in New Orleans, those that have

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Speaker 2: covered you know that for the short period of time,

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Speaker 2: covered him in Denver. A national reporter saying, there's a

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Speaker 2: reason that Sean Payton is doing this. But that was

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Speaker 2: that was the USA today Thursday.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, so but to go into I mean, we can, well,

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Speaker 1: let's hear the apology, not upon next day, because it

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Speaker 1: goes into the reasoning, the rationale, et cetera. Let's hear

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton from Friday.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, listen, I had I had one of those moments

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Speaker 5: where I still had my Fox hat on and not

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Speaker 5: my coaching hat on. And you know, I said this

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Speaker 5: to the team in the meeting yesterday. We've had a

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Speaker 5: great off season relative to that, you know, and I've

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Speaker 5: been preaching that message and here I am the veteran

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Speaker 5: and you know, stepping in it. And it was a

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Speaker 5: learning experience for me. It was a mistake. Obviously, I

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Speaker 5: needed a little bit more filter, you know, there's a

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Speaker 5: pound of flesh for these guys. As a coach, you

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Speaker 5: stick up for him, and after a while, you know,

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Speaker 5: we're past that season last year, and you know, I

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Speaker 5: said what I said, and obviously I needed a little

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Speaker 5: bit more restraint, and I regret that that being said,

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Speaker 5: what I told the team is, you know, if it

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Speaker 5: can happen, And I think I'm pretty good relative to

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Speaker 5: working with the media and pretty savvy, and I just

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Speaker 5: had one of those moments to Lattes in the morning,

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Speaker 5: first first one I see, and forty minutes later, I'm

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Speaker 5: regretting it. So it is what it is.

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Speaker 1: We'll bring back the fun response from the Jets a

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Speaker 1: little bit later, but let's just stay with this in

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Speaker 1: the moment, right. I joked about it Thursday night with

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Speaker 1: Smith that it was all a year of hanging out

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Speaker 1: with hot take nonsense on Fox where he went over

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Speaker 1: but certainly, look as he got towards the end of it,

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Speaker 1: I really thought he was going to finish with I

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Speaker 1: said what I said. I stand by it, like I

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Speaker 1: shouldn't have said it out loud, but I kind of did.

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Speaker 1: Because it's not really an apology.

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Speaker 2: It's not an apology at all. No point did he

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Speaker 2: say I apologize or I'm sorry. He says, I stepped

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Speaker 2: in it mentioned a filter, restraint, regret, savvy, regret, it

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Speaker 2: is what it is. But at no point was it

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry to the people that I offended with my comments.

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Speaker 2: I apologize. I did not mean those comments. There was

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Speaker 2: none of that. And the reason that I wanted to

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Speaker 2: bring up the media members pointing out Mike that Sean

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Speaker 2: Payton knows what he's doing. Because Sean Payton knows what

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Speaker 2: he's doing on Friday when he's issuing is non apology.

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Speaker 2: All you see you saard Sean Payton apologize. There's articles everywhere.

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Speaker 2: There was no apology. Sean Payton is just saying I

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Speaker 2: feel how I feel. I just shouldn't have said it

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Speaker 2: to the USA today. That is exactly so he doesn't

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Speaker 2: he feels everybody is at fault or he's trying to

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Speaker 2: send out message that's protecting his quarterback. But he is

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Speaker 2: not sorry for what he said.

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Speaker 1: But that's the thing, right, I think it sets up

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Speaker 1: the part of well, I'm the wizard, I'm gonna fix

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Speaker 1: all this that you broke. And then he puts Russell

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Speaker 1: Wilson on notice here because he absolves him of a

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Speaker 1: lot of virtually all responsibility by naming everybody else and

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Speaker 1: particularly going after Hackett, going after Hey, the Jets hired him,

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Speaker 1: hard knocks all this stuff and kind of bashing them

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Speaker 1: being part of that process. Because from all people I

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Speaker 1: know that are in Denver and we know a lot

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Speaker 1: of people that work in that marketplace, it's been a

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Speaker 1: different place since the day he showed up in terms

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Speaker 1: of noise, how he's handled Russell Wilson right, no more offices,

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Speaker 1: no more extra people wandering around the building, no music

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Speaker 1: at training camp practices. There's no live radio being done

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Speaker 1: there where you would always have a row of stations

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Speaker 1: on the back end of things where guys would just

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Speaker 1: walk over Like, he's changed all of that. So when

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Speaker 1: he goes and gets loud and decides he's gonna unleash

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Speaker 1: on what he inherited. Yeah, he watched the game tape.

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Speaker 1: He was a member of the media, so he was

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Speaker 1: in the echo chamber listening to all of us talk

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Speaker 1: about this stuff for a full year outside of the

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Speaker 1: coaching realm, and so yeah, you watched it just become

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Speaker 1: an abject failure at every level. And now you're saying well,

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Speaker 1: I'm here now, so all of that, Like, so he's

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Speaker 1: putting himself up on a pedestal immediately yes, to say hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm fixing all this. That doesn't fly in my world.

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Speaker 1: But the other for Russell Wilson is yeah, it's not

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Speaker 1: gonna be on me. He's like, I can't protect you anymore.

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Speaker 1: So if this fails, all that's been said about you

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Speaker 1: is going to be proven true. If I can't fix you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and if it fails, what's the constant. The constant

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Speaker 2: would be Russell Wilim you know, with the different regimes,

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Speaker 2: even going back to you know, the the end in Seattle,

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Speaker 2: you would put to that point that it would be

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Speaker 2: on him. But I I love it. I do think

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Speaker 2: that it is. You know, Sean Payton's always been really

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Speaker 2: good with with the media and though that sort of

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Speaker 2: content is good for for us in the media, but

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Speaker 2: I also think that he knows how to play the game.

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Speaker 2: And you mentioned the Jets aspect of it, because Peyton

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Speaker 2: did say that he would reach out to Robert Sala

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Speaker 2: and Nathaniel Hackett, who he admitted that he doesn't know

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Speaker 2: doesn't know Nathaniel Hackett and said that he'll reach out

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Speaker 2: to them at the proper time the team's play in

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Speaker 2: week five, but it's Here's Robert Sala when, when addressing

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Speaker 2: the Sean Payton comments, well.

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Speaker 6: I'm not going to acknowledge Sean on that is he

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Speaker 6: you know, he's been in the league while he can

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Speaker 6: say what other hell he wants. But but as far

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Speaker 6: as you know what we have going on here, I

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Speaker 6: kind of live by a saying, if you ain't got

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Speaker 6: no haters, you ain't popping so hate away. See, we're

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Speaker 6: doing something right if you've got to talk about us

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Speaker 6: when we don't play it till week four, and I'm

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Speaker 6: good with it. You know, the guys in our locker room,

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Speaker 6: they've earned everything that's coming to him and really excited

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Speaker 6: about what's going on. I think Hackett's doing a phenomenal

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Speaker 6: job here. The coaching staff is doing a phenomenal job,

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Speaker 6: and we're focused on us. I get it. There's a

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Speaker 6: lot of external noise. There's a lot of people who

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Speaker 6: are hating on us. There's a lot of people looking

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01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 6: for us to fail. There's a lot of crows peccinget

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Speaker 6: oor neck. But all you can do is spread your wings,

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01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:25,719
Speaker 6: keep flying high until those crows fall off and suffocate

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01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:28,040
Speaker 6: from the inability to breathe. It's a whole nother analogy

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Speaker 6: I'll get into later, but really really excited about the

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Speaker 6: group we have, the coaching that's going on, but I'm

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Speaker 6: going to keep our focus on us and making sure

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Speaker 6: that we're prepared every single day to do the best

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Speaker 6: we can and learn from our past and grow with

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Speaker 6: every moment that we have.

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Speaker 2: I didn't think that job Payton is being critical of

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Speaker 2: the Jets at all. I think he's just saying my

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01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:52,800
Speaker 2: you know, because Nathaniel Hackett is well, but they hire coaching.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so clearly you're a bunch of dopes because he

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01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:59,599
Speaker 1: ran the worst coaching job in history and you added

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Speaker 1: him to your staff. So how smarter are you?

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's there.

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Speaker 1: It's not direct, it's not a direction.

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Speaker 2: It's direct.

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Speaker 1: It's not a direct hit. But you know that you

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01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 1: get hit by the ricochet there. You hired this guy

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01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 1: who was a failure at every level. Now that doesn't

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01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 1: mean and we've watched it for years, Dan, you could

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01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:20,559
Speaker 1: be a good position coach or coordinator and just not

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01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 1: be a functional headman.

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Speaker 2: But he threw it. He threw under the buses. GM

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01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 2: and ownership, you know, and and the new ownership that

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01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 2: came in, and I'm just curious. And you know, George

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01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:35,720
Speaker 2: Peyton's not going to hire and fire Sean Payton. It's

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Speaker 2: going to come from a chop. And but I just

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01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 2: I wonder how they, you know, feel about that sort

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01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:45,040
Speaker 2: of thing. It's all, it's all, it's all planned out,

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01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 2: it's all a part of it. But by no means

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01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:50,639
Speaker 2: was this an apology. It was just the filter part

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01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:53,679
Speaker 2: of it is I want to keep the bad stuff back.

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01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 2: It's still there, like I still you know, like I

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01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:58,800
Speaker 2: I think that I just have to make sure what

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Speaker 2: comes out is clean, not that I regret or that

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01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 2: I apologize or say sorry for what I said.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I also can't give him a pass. It's not

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01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 1: you're not new to this job. Just because you took

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Speaker 1: a year off in media doesn't mean you're like you're

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01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 1: you're the new kid on the block. And it's like,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, the rules of engagement are different here. What

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Speaker 1: do you got saying?

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Speaker 7: I could be mistaken guys? But didn't Sean Payton sort

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Speaker 7: of take a shot at the Jets because he was

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Speaker 7: talking about them being on hard knocks and it being

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Speaker 7: like a distraction. I mean he did sort of implicate

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Speaker 7: them a little bit in some of his comments. Oh sure, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 7: prior to the apology.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he went he went in and did

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01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 1: a little side swipe there, you know, just talking about

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01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 1: the noise. But again, I think that was kind of

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Speaker 1: owing to the larger NFL thing. He takes the hacket shot.

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Speaker 1: But you know when when you get into hard knocks

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01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:48,880
Speaker 1: or whatever else, Like, he's not a story, right, he

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01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:51,839
Speaker 1: was a story when he got hired back in. Nobody's

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01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:55,639
Speaker 1: talking about Sean Payton now, right, So hey, I'm back,

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01:10:56,240 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 1: remember the Wizard. I'm back. I'm back, and I'm coaching team.

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Speaker 1: Nobody cares Sean. You haven't won in a long time.

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Speaker 2: And Salah was wrong. I was right. It is Week

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01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 2: five where they end up playing.

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Speaker 1: He'll be thinking about it in week four.

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Speaker 2: How about the first seven games out of the eight

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Speaker 2: games for the Chargers, the first half of basically of

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Speaker 2: their season. You're ready for this, Bill's Cowboys, Patriots, Chiefs, Broncos, Eagles, Giants, Chargers.

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Speaker 1: That's the Jets schedule.

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01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, good luck with that. The Broncos game was

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01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:28,760
Speaker 2: like the one that you could kind of like push

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01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 2: aside and be like all right now, like they're all

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01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 2: like marquee games. The NFL is going to flex all

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01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 2: of them. It's Aaron Rodgers Sunday Night. I'm in Hell.

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Speaker 1: He's Dan Meyer on Mike Harmon. This is Fox Sports Sunday,

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01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. Let's kick it over to our guy,

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01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:45,760
Speaker 1: Isaac loangrag get An updated on what's going on in

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01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:46,840
Speaker 1: our sporting universe, I.

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Speaker 4: Loo and Fellas.

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Speaker 3: The Jets continuing to be in the spotlight because free

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Speaker 3: agent running back Dalvin Cook is visiting the Jets today

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01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 3: and here's how he was greeted by Jets fans as

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Speaker 3: he walked out onto the field to watch practice just

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01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 3: a short time ago, including sign that contract guy. That

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01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:19,879
Speaker 3: audio courtesy of Jets fan Richie Muluro. The Pittsburgh Steelers

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01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:23,680
Speaker 3: signed free agent linebacker Kwan Alexander this morning to a

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01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 3: one year deal. He played for the Jets last year.

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01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 3: In boxing, on Saturday night, Terrence Crawford faced Errol Spence

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Speaker 3: Junior for the welterweight title. Before the fight, Crawford definitely

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01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 3: had the edge in hype men. As he walked out

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Speaker 3: to the ring accompanied by Eminem He makes a noise,

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01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:57,400
Speaker 3: and then Crawford would proceed to turn Spence into Mom's

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01:12:57,400 --> 01:13:01,000
Speaker 3: spaghetti with a ninth round tkof with it's World Cup

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01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:04,679
Speaker 3: overnight Columbia with a stunting two to one win over Germany.

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01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:06,920
Speaker 3: Germany tied it at one with a penalty kick goal

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Speaker 3: in the eighty ninth minute, but then Columbia scored a

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Speaker 3: goal in second half stoppage time to win it. In

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Speaker 3: Major League Baseball, on Saturday night, at the Texas Rangers

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Speaker 3: acquired three times Cy Young Award winner Max Scherzer from

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Speaker 3: the New York Mets. After Scherzer waived his no trade

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Speaker 3: clause on the field. Saturday night, the Rangers sures new

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01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:29,759
Speaker 3: team lost at San Diego four to nothing. You Darvis

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01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 3: struck out nine and six innings to hand Texas It's

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01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:35,639
Speaker 3: six loss in eight games. Dodgers over Cincinnati three to two.

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Speaker 3: The Dodgers had just two hits, a two run home

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01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:40,720
Speaker 3: run by Max Munsey in the first inning, had a

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01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 3: solo home run by Monsey in the sixth inning, and

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01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:44,880
Speaker 3: that was enough for the victory.

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Speaker 4: Fellas all yours.

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Speaker 1: Thanks, Iilo a big week for M and M. He'd

1392
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 1: been in relative obscurity shows up at an Edge Sheering

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01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 1: concert and now shows up on Fight Night.

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01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 2: So I loved Isaac Slyne. That was that was good,

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Speaker 2: was good? That was very good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean one spot of time saying forgot about

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Speaker 1: Dre Now it's uh, hey, don't forget about me. I'm

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01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:07,040
Speaker 1: still here. Isaac Longkron He'll be with us here as

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Speaker 1: we continue, because coming up next, it's what we love

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01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 1: to do when we get everybody together on a Sunday

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01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 1: morning and here's something to ponder. Everything is better with

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01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:25,000
Speaker 1: Cheddar It's next on Fox Truly red Faced Tom Coughlin

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01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:27,720
Speaker 1: at that point, he's Dan Bayer, I'm Mike Krma. We'll

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01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 1: do it again next week and we'll see if we

1405
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:31,799
Speaker 1: can get better results. Coming up next to the MLB

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Speaker 1: trade deadline. What's left on the board? Green Eggs Welcome in.

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Speaker 1: Second half of the show begins here Fox Sports Radios,

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01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:42,640
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Sunday, Mike Harmon, Dan Byer with you. You

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01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:44,479
Speaker 1: hear Dan during the week as part of the Doug

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01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 1: Gottlieb Show here as well as Cavino and Rich. We

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01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 1: team up on the iwatcher Flex podcast another season ahead

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01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:55,559
Speaker 1: of us. We'll get into a little bit of fantasy

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01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 1: implications of all of the fun and exciting news in

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01:14:58,439 --> 01:15:00,680
Speaker 1: the world, and you're doing your research. And I've been

1415
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:02,759
Speaker 1: in a couple of drafts that have made no sense

1416
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:06,000
Speaker 1: in some ways, a lot of guys rolling the dice

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01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:08,760
Speaker 1: with big auction bids, and I got a guy that

1418
01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 1: might not even report to work on my squad. We'll

1419
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:14,160
Speaker 1: get into that in a minute. But at Dan Byron

1420
01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 1: Fox is where you find Dan find me at Swollen Dome.

1421
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 1: And that's over on X which is now we've done that.

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01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:25,840
Speaker 1: It's it's it's a final. The Twitter bird has been

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Speaker 1: replaced here on a Sunday morning, and we're coming up

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01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:31,720
Speaker 1: on the Major League Baseball trade deadline, and I know

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01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:33,840
Speaker 1: a lot of the the air got taken out of

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01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 1: the room by the announcement by the Angels that Shoho

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01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:40,760
Speaker 1: Tani wasn't going anywhere, which I never believed he was

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01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:44,599
Speaker 1: for a minute, if only for dollars and cents, and

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01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:47,640
Speaker 1: for the idea that Artie Marino would rather roll the

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01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 1: dice that he couldn't retain him rather than sell him

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01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:56,120
Speaker 1: for parts or prospects or as I've called them, magic beans.

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Speaker 2: Dan Byer Mike, I just I just never saw how

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Speaker 2: you could do that deal. I don't. It's and I

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01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:07,720
Speaker 2: feel like I'm being a broken record with that, but

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Speaker 2: that was just my sticking point. I think there are

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Speaker 2: a lot of reasons on why Otani was traded, but

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01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:16,040
Speaker 2: I think first and foremost is what do you actually

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01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:22,719
Speaker 2: get that would be respectable value for him? Because he's

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01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:24,760
Speaker 2: so good, but a team is not going to give

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01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:28,519
Speaker 2: up everything that they have. He's almost he's almost too

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01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:29,679
Speaker 2: valuable to trade.

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Speaker 1: Well, the idea was that he would go to a

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01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:35,040
Speaker 1: like you would trade him to a would be contender,

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01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:37,880
Speaker 1: whether it was a short term rental and wishing and

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01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:40,599
Speaker 1: hoping to re sign, or a team that already had

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01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:43,360
Speaker 1: a plan or a structure in place that they thought

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01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:45,680
Speaker 1: they could sell him on. Right, so we hear the

1448
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 1: Cubs money potential is there for them. They're in that

1449
01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:52,960
Speaker 1: weird situation where a week and a half ago they

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01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 1: were looking to be sellers. Bellager is going here, Stroman's

1451
01:16:56,920 --> 01:16:58,639
Speaker 1: going there. Then they go out and win eight games

1452
01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 1: in a row in a division that's not very good,

1453
01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:04,559
Speaker 1: so suddenly the math change is there. The Angels had

1454
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:08,439
Speaker 1: that winning streak and possibility, you know, to push in

1455
01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 1: and I'm glad they did, right, they look the White

1456
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:15,280
Speaker 1: Sox stake, so taking any pieces you can. Whether Giolino

1457
01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:19,160
Speaker 1: and Lopez are enough to help in the process, I

1458
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:21,880
Speaker 1: don't know. But the fact that they became buyers and

1459
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:25,720
Speaker 1: they'd already made a couple of minor deals before the

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Speaker 1: final assessment came out with Otani of hey, we're not

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Speaker 1: moving on. I just thought, you know, A, you're not

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Speaker 1: training him for prospects. But any team that was going

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01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 1: to bring him in it was about winning. So what

1464
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:40,720
Speaker 1: are you getting back that probably guts that squad to

1465
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:42,720
Speaker 1: go and bring him in. You know, A team that

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01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 1: made any sense from a we don't have to structurally

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01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:49,920
Speaker 1: really change everything right now. That's on the upswing is

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Speaker 1: Baltimore because you've got a lot of young players and

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01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:55,639
Speaker 1: you've got a stacked farm system where you could just say, okay,

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Speaker 1: take two or three of these guys if that was

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Speaker 1: what the Angels were amenable two and roll from there

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Speaker 1: to where you'd have some top end prospects. But otherwise

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01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 1: there was a lot of wishing, wanting and hoping and

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01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 1: nothing that made any sense other than we're doing it

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01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:13,640
Speaker 1: so we don't get quote nothing in return. Guess what

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01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:16,599
Speaker 1: most of those prospects fizzle out and become nothing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well you're right, and that is that is fair.

1478
01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 2: I just for a team on a and it's the

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Speaker 2: amount that they'd have to get up, give up for

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Speaker 2: a possible just two months rental. Maybe maybe somebody would

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01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:32,960
Speaker 2: feel like it would be worth it because they would

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01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 2: be able to go to a World Series and win

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01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:39,320
Speaker 2: a crown. But it's just it's not a given. I

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01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:43,200
Speaker 2: just I never never saw it. And now what you've

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01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:46,559
Speaker 2: got is and maybe it hasn't panned out in these

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01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:51,640
Speaker 2: last couple of games against Toronto, but this message that

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01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:55,719
Speaker 2: was out there is maybe reinvigorated them a bit. Now

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Speaker 2: whether that is enough for them to make the postseason

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Speaker 2: with how good indep the Ale East is the teams

1490
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Speaker 2: that you're looking up at in the Al West, Texas

1491
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:09,320
Speaker 2: faltering a bit, Houston close to taking over the lead there.

1492
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:13,599
Speaker 2: It's I'm glad that he stayed. I'll put it that way.

1493
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:15,120
Speaker 2: I'm glad with.

1494
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:19,439
Speaker 1: You for a million reasons. And even if it ends up,

1495
01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:22,559
Speaker 1: you know they break up at the end of the season.

1496
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 1: You gave us your shot, right, you showed him you

1497
01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:28,760
Speaker 1: were serious. You went into luxury tax hell for the

1498
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:31,599
Speaker 1: first time ever. Right, all of this, and remember you're

1499
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:35,280
Speaker 1: playing without Mike Trout, who was not having your historical

1500
01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:38,400
Speaker 1: Mike Trout season, which he really doesn't at this point

1501
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:42,679
Speaker 1: anymore either. That's a whole other conversation with the large

1502
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:46,000
Speaker 1: contract for years to come with him. But you're showing

1503
01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:49,479
Speaker 1: Otani at least, Hey, we'll lean in you, lean into

1504
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:51,840
Speaker 1: us for the rest of the season. We'll lean into

1505
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:54,720
Speaker 1: you and do what we can to bring players in.

1506
01:19:55,479 --> 01:19:57,799
Speaker 1: So look, they made that deal with the White Sox.

1507
01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:00,559
Speaker 1: Smith went nuts, as did some others about what the

1508
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:03,600
Speaker 1: prospects were ranked. Right, they were two top five in

1509
01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 1: their organization. What does that mean? I mean, really on

1510
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:10,759
Speaker 1: the grand scale. When when we get into rankings of players,

1511
01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:15,479
Speaker 1: we'll get into a trade that was consummated yesterday. You

1512
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:18,800
Speaker 1: don't know that it's gonna work in your organization. Right,

1513
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:22,960
Speaker 1: it might look good based on some national ranking over here,

1514
01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:25,559
Speaker 1: but once he actually gets on board with you, like

1515
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:29,640
Speaker 1: that's why people covet the prospects and say the Dodgers organization, well,

1516
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 1: they come up to the Dodgers, they played well, Yeah,

1517
01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:33,920
Speaker 1: the Dodgers can also spend three hundred million dollars and

1518
01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:35,240
Speaker 1: sprinkle those guys in.

1519
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:39,360
Speaker 2: And I'll say this, even though Matt Chapman made disagree

1520
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:43,160
Speaker 2: with the Toronto Blue Jays, you know it's an organization

1521
01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:48,479
Speaker 2: that needs needs pitching, you know. I mean like they

1522
01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:52,000
Speaker 2: it would if you put Giolito in and now you

1523
01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:54,360
Speaker 2: got Otani and now you're setting up and you're like, hey,

1524
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:57,000
Speaker 2: we sneak in. This is what we've this is what

1525
01:20:57,040 --> 01:20:59,439
Speaker 2: we can throw at you. Gives you a chance.

1526
01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:02,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Chapman line was funny. He's the only bleeping

1527
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:06,720
Speaker 1: guy that on this team. Why are we pitching to him?

1528
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:09,400
Speaker 1: And it's funny because it's true. But you know, obviously

1529
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:11,519
Speaker 1: they've got nothing out of the rend own deal. I

1530
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:12,200
Speaker 1: hope he's okay.

1531
01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:12,439
Speaker 2: Right.

1532
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:16,160
Speaker 1: The latest report on the on his leg was not good,

1533
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:18,639
Speaker 1: Like you know, some of the details that come out.

1534
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:20,760
Speaker 1: But that's a guy you spent a lot of money

1535
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 1: on and you've gotten very little production from and so

1536
01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:26,280
Speaker 1: that hamstrings you to a degree of what else you

1537
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:28,800
Speaker 1: could do. You made a big bet there. We are

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Speaker 1: be coming about ten minutes. Will take a turn into

1543
01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 1: the fantasy world, but we stay in Major League Baseball.

1544
01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:49,719
Speaker 1: With the trade of a big arm and a big

1545
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:53,720
Speaker 1: name from the past, maybe his former teammate will join

1546
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 1: him in the trade market. But Max Scherzer gets sent

1547
01:21:57,280 --> 01:22:04,479
Speaker 1: to Texas for the brother of Ronald Acunya junior, Louis

1548
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:10,760
Speaker 1: Angel Louis Anhel Acunya, forty four prospect in baseball, number

1549
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:14,960
Speaker 1: three in the Rangers system. Mets fans they saw the

1550
01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:16,559
Speaker 1: Acunya thing like wait.

1551
01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:16,679
Speaker 2: What.

1552
01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:21,680
Speaker 1: There's a for a moment like it makes you take pass, like, oh,

1553
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:25,920
Speaker 1: we got the other one now again a prospect number

1554
01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:28,759
Speaker 1: forty four in baseball, number three in the Ranger system.

1555
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:31,680
Speaker 1: But the Rangers, you know, one of the fun stories

1556
01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:33,880
Speaker 1: of this year in Major League Baseball, and I think

1557
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:36,000
Speaker 1: we've had a few of them, Dan that some of

1558
01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:39,840
Speaker 1: the perennial favorites have been also Rams this year. Now

1559
01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:45,479
Speaker 1: the Cardinals have said, without a hesitation, now Nolan Arnatto's

1560
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:49,080
Speaker 1: not going anywhere, but for a couple of days on speculation,

1561
01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:52,799
Speaker 1: very rare space for them to be a bottom feeder

1562
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:56,800
Speaker 1: in the Central and it's a terrible division right now,

1563
01:22:57,400 --> 01:22:58,639
Speaker 1: right media, now.

1564
01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:01,200
Speaker 2: This coming from an amer I'm.

1565
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:04,799
Speaker 1: Saying the Centrals are the two throwaway divisions in baseball

1566
01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:08,840
Speaker 1: this year. Although the Brewers and Reds now at about

1567
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:11,519
Speaker 1: ten days above five on, well, that's fine, but it's

1568
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:17,040
Speaker 1: the cannibalism. Okay, they're they're not world beating squads. They're

1569
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:21,519
Speaker 1: not expectations. We're huge for them, and you've turned it

1570
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:24,559
Speaker 1: on certainly La de la Cruz a lot a lot

1571
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:27,360
Speaker 1: of hype on there and their performance with him since.

1572
01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:30,240
Speaker 1: But we look at the Dodgers, we look at the Braves,

1573
01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:34,280
Speaker 1: and they're different, is really what I'm getting to there.

1574
01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:37,920
Speaker 1: But with the Cardinals, they're never here, like we keep

1575
01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:41,040
Speaker 1: seeing the graphics on television televised games of this is

1576
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:44,160
Speaker 1: the longest they've been in last place. And you could

1577
01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:47,320
Speaker 1: take decades and not fined and cobbled together as many

1578
01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:50,080
Speaker 1: days in last place as they've been this year. So

1579
01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:52,840
Speaker 1: the potential was there for sales, and it doesn't mean

1580
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:55,640
Speaker 1: that it's still not there. But Texas at sixty and

1581
01:23:55,720 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 1: forty five, remember they had a former met great that

1582
01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:01,560
Speaker 1: was supposed to be an anchor to their rotation in

1583
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:06,240
Speaker 1: Jacob de Gram, who's not available to you. So Mets

1584
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:10,240
Speaker 1: and their three hundred million dollars and admitting that it's

1585
01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:14,640
Speaker 1: not working. I admire Cohen to just say, you know what,

1586
01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:16,160
Speaker 1: it's bad money spent. I'm done.

1587
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:19,960
Speaker 2: I you take it from the Mets perspective, I just

1588
01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:24,240
Speaker 2: think this is a this is a Texas Rangers story.

1589
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:27,760
Speaker 2: The Mets story has been going on for how long, Mike,

1590
01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:30,840
Speaker 2: like ever? I mean pretty much all season long, and

1591
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:32,840
Speaker 2: especially over these last couple of weeks. From the All

1592
01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:35,639
Speaker 2: Star break, we heard the Mets, if they can put

1593
01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:38,840
Speaker 2: something together together over these next couple of weeks, they

1594
01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:41,840
Speaker 2: can go on a winning streak. This team is all in. Well,

1595
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:45,920
Speaker 2: it didn't happen. So because it didn't happen, we knew

1596
01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:49,320
Speaker 2: that this was likely going to happen, and it did.

1597
01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:52,799
Speaker 2: And the reason why I think it's it's about Texas,

1598
01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:54,920
Speaker 2: And I know the Mets grabbed so much of the

1599
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:58,880
Speaker 2: attention and the failure of Scherzer and the failure of

1600
01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:04,040
Speaker 2: this season in New York is draws all of the spotlight.

1601
01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:06,439
Speaker 1: Well, it only matters to me because I have to

1602
01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:09,840
Speaker 1: listen to Mets, Mets Mets. So when they fail, I

1603
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:12,080
Speaker 1: may relish in it a little bit more.

1604
01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:14,679
Speaker 2: But you're You're not the only one. And the reason

1605
01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:16,600
Speaker 2: I just think it's a big deal with Texas is

1606
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:20,719
Speaker 2: because Texas is like, they're not going to get Jacob

1607
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 2: deGrom back, that's that's done with. But they felt, you

1608
01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:31,080
Speaker 2: know what, right now, we've got an opportunity to maybe

1609
01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:34,920
Speaker 2: do something We've seen teams in the playoffs go on

1610
01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:38,800
Speaker 2: and run, even if you're a wild card, make that run.

1611
01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:41,840
Speaker 2: Corey Seger should be back in the next week or so.

1612
01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:44,599
Speaker 2: Put him back in the lineup. When you look at

1613
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:49,400
Speaker 2: the rest of the American League, you've got Baltimore, who's

1614
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:53,479
Speaker 2: a great story, but they're just as unproven postseason wise

1615
01:25:54,120 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 2: as Texas.

1616
01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:57,960
Speaker 1: A lot of young players that you're counting on in

1617
01:25:58,120 --> 01:26:03,080
Speaker 1: big moments. Yes September, still battling in that division and

1618
01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:06,080
Speaker 1: not even getting to the postseason. Just the next six

1619
01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:08,800
Speaker 1: weeks are going to be a gauntlet because you're gonna

1620
01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:09,680
Speaker 1: play a lot of division game.

1621
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:12,240
Speaker 2: Yes, you have no idea how Baltimore is gonna respond

1622
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:16,000
Speaker 2: the Rays. If we were gonna I know you're gonna

1623
01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:18,640
Speaker 2: trend downwards when you start thirteen and now I get that,

1624
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:22,479
Speaker 2: ah yeah, but their arrow has slightly gone down, no

1625
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:24,800
Speaker 2: longer in first place. I don't think we look at

1626
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:28,559
Speaker 2: the Yankees as legitimate threats, right, I mean.

1627
01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:33,040
Speaker 1: They're judges back, so okay, but they don't have enough pitching.

1628
01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:36,600
Speaker 2: Houston, even though on the heels of the Rangers, I

1629
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:40,280
Speaker 2: don't think this Houston team scares Texas. And then you

1630
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:43,640
Speaker 2: bring up sorry to bring up the Al Central. You

1631
01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:46,439
Speaker 2: know that division's garbage. Just nobody there that scares you.

1632
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:48,200
Speaker 2: So a few of the Rangers in all of this,

1633
01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:51,080
Speaker 2: why not go for it? And you're exactly right. In

1634
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:53,240
Speaker 2: the nation of the league, I think it's difficult for

1635
01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:55,400
Speaker 2: an NL team to be like, you know, the Braves

1636
01:26:55,439 --> 01:26:59,600
Speaker 2: and Dodgers just seem to be better than everybody, and

1637
01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:02,120
Speaker 2: you're gonna wave a white flag and not compete if

1638
01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:04,599
Speaker 2: you make the playoffs, and who knows, magic can happen.

1639
01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:07,719
Speaker 2: But I just think that there's more up for grabs

1640
01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:11,240
Speaker 2: in the American League because of some of the unknowns,

1641
01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:14,519
Speaker 2: and so for Texas to do this, like, I think

1642
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:17,720
Speaker 2: it's I I like it. I think it's I think

1643
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:21,200
Speaker 2: it's great for Texas, even if sures there's numbers aren't

1644
01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:23,839
Speaker 2: what they were, and I'm not even talking about his stats.

1645
01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:27,519
Speaker 2: We're talking about velocity and everything that's compared to other years.

1646
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:31,439
Speaker 2: Like there's maybe maybe there's this a resurgence. Maybe it's

1647
01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:34,719
Speaker 2: him and Mike Maddox getting back together turns things around.

1648
01:27:34,840 --> 01:27:38,600
Speaker 2: But to me, Texas saying all right, we're gonna do

1649
01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:41,760
Speaker 2: this even though our big offseason prize is not with

1650
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:44,240
Speaker 2: us says a lot. And I think it says because

1651
01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:46,760
Speaker 2: the American League is just so up for grabs right now.

1652
01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:48,439
Speaker 1: Well, you and I have talked about this for as

1653
01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:51,400
Speaker 1: long as we've been doing shows, podcasts, everything else together.

1654
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:56,480
Speaker 1: I'm all about this year. You can say, spare me prospects,

1655
01:27:56,680 --> 01:27:59,680
Speaker 1: draft picks, all of that. I recognize the business of

1656
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:03,120
Speaker 1: it and we analyze it as to what happens. But

1657
01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:05,360
Speaker 1: if I have an opportunity to go and win, now,

1658
01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:08,800
Speaker 1: I don't know that those stars align every year. Right.

1659
01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:12,280
Speaker 1: Houston had a bunch of injuries, Right, Jordan Alvarez missed

1660
01:28:12,280 --> 01:28:14,800
Speaker 1: a ton of time. Now back and healthy, so we'll

1661
01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:17,240
Speaker 1: see what's the second half. They're rumored potentially to be

1662
01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:20,840
Speaker 1: picking up Verlander and bringing him back in. So the

1663
01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:23,120
Speaker 1: Mets can they'll pay out a bunch of the money

1664
01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:26,040
Speaker 1: for him insurser, but they may make a move to

1665
01:28:26,720 --> 01:28:29,639
Speaker 1: to counter what the Rangers did. But I think that's

1666
01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:32,519
Speaker 1: great for baseball when you've got a shot and your

1667
01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:35,920
Speaker 1: team is in the hunt. And this is for any league.

1668
01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:39,320
Speaker 1: I don't want to wait until what might be behind

1669
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:43,000
Speaker 1: door number two, because I like the stars don't align

1670
01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:45,800
Speaker 1: every year, like we watch it in the NFL. We'll

1671
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:48,080
Speaker 1: start week one. We got it already, right, I mean,

1672
01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:50,479
Speaker 1: look at the look at that day we had this

1673
01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:54,320
Speaker 1: week where every five minutes as I went through APPS,

1674
01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:57,559
Speaker 1: it was another guy getting carted off a field. Well

1675
01:28:57,720 --> 01:28:59,800
Speaker 1: at least that guy was carted off in the front,

1676
01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:02,840
Speaker 1: so maybe it's not so bad. That's where we're at

1677
01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:07,240
Speaker 1: the level of how tenuous this is, right, Joe Burrow, Okay,

1678
01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:10,160
Speaker 1: it should only be a three week injury? Will it

1679
01:29:10,240 --> 01:29:12,559
Speaker 1: only be a three week injury? Is that something that's

1680
01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:15,760
Speaker 1: gonna lingker? As much as I love my guy, Trevor Simeon, man,

1681
01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:19,720
Speaker 1: look at what that team potentially becomes, right if Joe

1682
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:22,040
Speaker 1: Burrow has to miss significant time and we do that

1683
01:29:22,120 --> 01:29:25,120
Speaker 1: with backup quarterbacks every year anyway, But it's that you

1684
01:29:25,439 --> 01:29:28,519
Speaker 1: only have a window for so long that you can

1685
01:29:28,520 --> 01:29:32,120
Speaker 1: compete in a Major league baseball. There's so many variables

1686
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:37,519
Speaker 1: to this, and performances year to year are especially at

1687
01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:40,439
Speaker 1: the pitching position, because you're counting on your bullpen to

1688
01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:43,760
Speaker 1: be nails. Like it's a different world. Like you used

1689
01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:47,840
Speaker 1: to go seven innings with your starter and then maybe

1690
01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:50,320
Speaker 1: you'd play a little bit of the matchup game, but

1691
01:29:50,439 --> 01:29:53,000
Speaker 1: you'd have maybe one or two relievers that would come

1692
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:55,400
Speaker 1: in and then you're finished. Whereas now you're going to

1693
01:29:55,439 --> 01:29:58,320
Speaker 1: the bullpen four times. Are you banking that all four

1694
01:29:58,360 --> 01:30:00,559
Speaker 1: of those guys are going to be right and gonna

1695
01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:02,080
Speaker 1: be on their game? No?

1696
01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:03,920
Speaker 2: Rolling the dice? Yeah, that's it.

1697
01:30:04,160 --> 01:30:07,040
Speaker 1: So why not lean all in? You got a season

1698
01:30:07,120 --> 01:30:09,280
Speaker 1: that I don't think anybody expect. You got great balance

1699
01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:14,439
Speaker 1: in your lineup. Seegers your number two in odds for

1700
01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:16,880
Speaker 1: the MVP. You know the field is eighteen to one.

1701
01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:21,840
Speaker 1: Right now, Fine, it's Tonny. I think it might have

1702
01:30:21,880 --> 01:30:25,599
Speaker 1: actually gone up again. But the nearest odds I saw

1703
01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:28,479
Speaker 1: after his performance the other day, Right, so he pitches

1704
01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:30,720
Speaker 1: the one hitter and then as the two home run

1705
01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:32,840
Speaker 1: game was secer was fifty to one.

1706
01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:41,120
Speaker 2: Oh oh, so there you go, the the opportunity to

1707
01:30:41,439 --> 01:30:44,280
Speaker 2: just say, Okay, we're gonna give this a shot, We're

1708
01:30:44,320 --> 01:30:46,280
Speaker 2: gonna go for it. I think says a lot about

1709
01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:50,560
Speaker 2: the rest of the American League and for Texas for

1710
01:30:50,720 --> 01:30:55,439
Speaker 2: their their struggling. They're struggling lately, but it's losing two

1711
01:30:55,479 --> 01:30:57,360
Speaker 2: out of three to the Dodgers, losing two out of

1712
01:30:57,400 --> 01:30:59,400
Speaker 2: three to the Astros. You dropped the first two games

1713
01:30:59,439 --> 01:31:02,519
Speaker 2: of a series in San Diego this weekend, but you're

1714
01:31:02,560 --> 01:31:05,000
Speaker 2: also coming off of a sweep of the Rays since

1715
01:31:05,080 --> 01:31:08,120
Speaker 2: the All Star Break took care of Cleveland, swept them,

1716
01:31:09,080 --> 01:31:13,000
Speaker 2: So all may not be lost. And if you know you,

1717
01:31:13,960 --> 01:31:16,639
Speaker 2: as I said, you only salvage the game against the Dodgers,

1718
01:31:16,680 --> 01:31:19,839
Speaker 2: and the same thing with the Astros. Maybe Max Scherzer

1719
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:22,160
Speaker 2: changes that and that turns around. I love the move.

1720
01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:24,680
Speaker 2: There's so much about the Mets, but I really think

1721
01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:25,639
Speaker 2: the moves about the Rangers.

1722
01:31:25,680 --> 01:31:27,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I look again, for me, it's the

1723
01:31:27,560 --> 01:31:30,800
Speaker 1: Mets failure because I have to parlay that because there's

1724
01:31:30,840 --> 01:31:34,240
Speaker 1: too much good coming out with the Jets, at least

1725
01:31:34,280 --> 01:31:37,280
Speaker 1: for now. So when that starts to sync after the

1726
01:31:37,400 --> 01:31:40,160
Speaker 1: schedule you read off earlier, then I'll get to revel

1727
01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:42,400
Speaker 1: in that, but in the interim, I gotta take my

1728
01:31:42,479 --> 01:31:45,200
Speaker 1: wins where I can to poke the bear reminder. Fox

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Speaker 1: dot com. Coming up next, we'll take a turn into

1734
01:31:59,479 --> 01:32:03,439
Speaker 1: the foot ball slash fantasy reality top of the board

1735
01:32:04,040 --> 01:32:08,599
Speaker 1: and the price of players from the auction side of things,

1736
01:32:09,479 --> 01:32:12,840
Speaker 1: showing while they may be devalued in the quote real

1737
01:32:12,960 --> 01:32:16,640
Speaker 1: world fantasy wise, running back can still be king. We'll

1738
01:32:16,680 --> 01:32:23,400
Speaker 1: talk about it next year on Fox. The guy that

1739
01:32:23,479 --> 01:32:25,720
Speaker 1: I know is touching the ball twenty five times. I

1740
01:32:25,720 --> 01:32:27,840
Speaker 1: don't care if he's carrying it. I don't care if

1741
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:31,240
Speaker 1: he's catching it out of the backfield. But I need

1742
01:32:31,360 --> 01:32:34,400
Speaker 1: to at least have one of those guys right off

1743
01:32:34,520 --> 01:32:37,120
Speaker 1: the jump if I'm gonna feel good about my roster

1744
01:32:37,240 --> 01:32:39,400
Speaker 1: at all. Because if I'm going to a guy that's

1745
01:32:39,439 --> 01:32:43,560
Speaker 1: now in a workload shift and to where game situations

1746
01:32:43,640 --> 01:32:46,360
Speaker 1: may take him off the field, I can't do it.

1747
01:32:46,560 --> 01:32:49,960
Speaker 1: I can't wait till round two or week round three

1748
01:32:50,360 --> 01:32:53,640
Speaker 1: and wish and hope that one of those few unicorn

1749
01:32:53,760 --> 01:32:55,960
Speaker 1: kind of guys are there. See, I'm making your case

1750
01:32:56,040 --> 01:32:56,679
Speaker 1: running backs.

1751
01:32:56,840 --> 01:33:02,439
Speaker 2: So you're saying McCaffrey over the the justin Jefferson Tyreek Hills.

1752
01:33:02,520 --> 01:33:05,280
Speaker 1: Well, that's what I've I've done in my drafts, and

1753
01:33:05,400 --> 01:33:09,040
Speaker 1: at this point, I've look I'm gonna swallow hard every

1754
01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:13,599
Speaker 1: time he gets hit cleaned by a linebacker, and given

1755
01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:17,600
Speaker 1: past injury history, certainly I know that's a tough go

1756
01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:21,040
Speaker 1: the quarterback position in San Francisco. I don't know. It's

1757
01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:25,200
Speaker 1: like the old Johnny Bravo episode of The Brady Bunch,

1758
01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:27,000
Speaker 1: where it seems like, as long as you got someone

1759
01:33:27,040 --> 01:33:29,200
Speaker 1: that's in the suit, the system will at least get

1760
01:33:29,240 --> 01:33:29,880
Speaker 1: my running back.

1761
01:33:29,880 --> 01:33:32,320
Speaker 2: His numbers doesn't fit the suit.

1762
01:33:32,600 --> 01:33:34,920
Speaker 1: No, he ain't gonna be there. He's gonna get traded.

1763
01:33:36,439 --> 01:33:38,560
Speaker 1: He's the guy. He's saying all the right things that

1764
01:33:38,640 --> 01:33:42,560
Speaker 1: I appreciate him, but he's a great example of the

1765
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:45,680
Speaker 1: sunk cost world for me in sports that I know

1766
01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:49,439
Speaker 1: as fans and certainly as media people, we don't like

1767
01:33:49,560 --> 01:33:51,800
Speaker 1: to admit it's like, but they gave up so much

1768
01:33:52,200 --> 01:33:54,920
Speaker 1: that was years ago. You've had a lot of time

1769
01:33:55,000 --> 01:33:57,639
Speaker 1: to watch him not be available to you because of injuries,

1770
01:33:57,960 --> 01:34:00,200
Speaker 1: and you've watched the world pass by, and if you're

1771
01:34:00,200 --> 01:34:02,360
Speaker 1: not seeing it in practice to where he's clearly the

1772
01:34:02,439 --> 01:34:05,160
Speaker 1: number one, it doesn't matter that you drafted him third,

1773
01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:08,479
Speaker 1: doesn't matter if you gave up forty draft picks. If

1774
01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:10,120
Speaker 1: he ate your guy, you ate your guy. You move

1775
01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:14,519
Speaker 1: forward right, trade him, showcase him, do whatever you can do,

1776
01:34:15,040 --> 01:34:17,639
Speaker 1: cut him if you have to. And that goes for anywhere.

1777
01:34:17,680 --> 01:34:20,600
Speaker 1: And it's a cold business approach to it. But like

1778
01:34:20,720 --> 01:34:23,200
Speaker 1: it's some cast, you can't go back going but we

1779
01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:26,479
Speaker 1: gave up ball. It's like, no, if it's trash, it's trash, right,

1780
01:34:26,880 --> 01:34:29,479
Speaker 1: it's like buying a stock in the stock market. If

1781
01:34:29,520 --> 01:34:32,439
Speaker 1: it was you were excited about it and it has

1782
01:34:32,479 --> 01:34:34,760
Speaker 1: in value and now you've got leadership. I don't know,

1783
01:34:34,880 --> 01:34:38,160
Speaker 1: you change your brand X, that doesn't work, that you

1784
01:34:38,280 --> 01:34:38,800
Speaker 1: have to move on.

1785
01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:41,600
Speaker 2: I will. I will push back in the sense of

1786
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:44,280
Speaker 2: what makes it so such a head scratcher, And I

1787
01:34:44,600 --> 01:34:48,080
Speaker 2: appreciate the cunning your losses. We're moving on from this,

1788
01:34:48,720 --> 01:34:51,679
Speaker 2: but I don't think that there was ever enough there

1789
01:34:52,400 --> 01:34:55,280
Speaker 2: for them to make a true judgment on Trey Lance,

1790
01:34:56,120 --> 01:34:56,479
Speaker 2: I mean.

1791
01:34:56,400 --> 01:34:59,639
Speaker 1: When they drafted him, or when or to evaluate him now.

1792
01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:03,920
Speaker 2: Whole entire process because of the Matt Jones v. Trey

1793
01:35:04,040 --> 01:35:07,400
Speaker 2: Lance drama that Chris sim started up, which now sure

1794
01:35:07,479 --> 01:35:10,720
Speaker 2: seems to be a real thing considering Kyle Shanahan's likely

1795
01:35:10,800 --> 01:35:13,280
Speaker 2: getting his way, and maybe it's all just Brock Purty

1796
01:35:13,360 --> 01:35:17,040
Speaker 2: is is great and that's where we want to go.

1797
01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:20,559
Speaker 2: But the whole situation, I mean, Lance is the starter,

1798
01:35:20,760 --> 01:35:22,720
Speaker 2: and then he's hurt, and then he you know, it's

1799
01:35:22,760 --> 01:35:26,479
Speaker 2: now hurt twice, and and Purdy's there, just the whole,

1800
01:35:26,720 --> 01:35:28,439
Speaker 2: the whole, the way it's all played out. And I'm

1801
01:35:28,439 --> 01:35:32,840
Speaker 2: not saying that you can sit there and give Trey Lance,

1802
01:35:32,840 --> 01:35:36,120
Speaker 2: which would basically be a third opportunity, because he's been

1803
01:35:36,240 --> 01:35:39,240
Speaker 2: hurt not only last year but prior to that. It's

1804
01:35:39,400 --> 01:35:42,640
Speaker 2: just the simple fact of what they did give up.

1805
01:35:42,880 --> 01:35:44,720
Speaker 2: But I see what you're saying. If you if you're

1806
01:35:44,920 --> 01:35:47,120
Speaker 2: if you're done with it, move on. Who cares what

1807
01:35:47,360 --> 01:35:50,679
Speaker 2: what what has happened in the past. But I told

1808
01:35:50,680 --> 01:35:52,000
Speaker 2: you a couple of weeks ago on the show that

1809
01:35:52,080 --> 01:35:54,720
Speaker 2: I thought that there were only three possibilities for the

1810
01:35:55,120 --> 01:35:58,519
Speaker 2: first overall pick in fantasy drafts, and that was Christian

1811
01:35:58,600 --> 01:36:01,599
Speaker 2: McCaffrey for what we just talked about. Justin Jefferson if

1812
01:36:01,640 --> 01:36:03,960
Speaker 2: you do want to go wide receivers, and b John

1813
01:36:04,080 --> 01:36:08,680
Speaker 2: Robinson if you just because of the sheer unknown with

1814
01:36:08,840 --> 01:36:12,320
Speaker 2: what he could have long term effects dynasty like, those

1815
01:36:12,360 --> 01:36:14,200
Speaker 2: were the only three guys that I thought that you

1816
01:36:14,280 --> 01:36:15,200
Speaker 2: could put number one.

1817
01:36:15,320 --> 01:36:15,439
Speaker 5: Now.

1818
01:36:15,439 --> 01:36:19,160
Speaker 2: I've heard Jamar Chase, have heard other players, but realistically,

1819
01:36:19,240 --> 01:36:22,800
Speaker 2: I just think that it's only those three guys, and

1820
01:36:23,600 --> 01:36:25,840
Speaker 2: two of them are running back. So I'm the.

1821
01:36:25,880 --> 01:36:28,840
Speaker 1: Bijon one is is you're coming at it from a

1822
01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:32,240
Speaker 1: different assle than most. And obviously a lot of highlight

1823
01:36:32,439 --> 01:36:35,559
Speaker 1: video of him this week. Look at the catch, look

1824
01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:37,880
Speaker 1: at the catch and the speed and the burst or whatever,

1825
01:36:38,000 --> 01:36:40,839
Speaker 1: and the hype is there all Jeer and then obviously

1826
01:36:41,000 --> 01:36:45,040
Speaker 1: Cordero Patterson. I'm in one of those twenty roster spot leagues.

1827
01:36:45,240 --> 01:36:47,360
Speaker 1: I drafted Patterson. I was my last guy. Hoping he

1828
01:36:47,400 --> 01:36:50,920
Speaker 1: gets traded, sure right that he finds his way onto

1829
01:36:50,920 --> 01:36:53,960
Speaker 1: another roster because he was productive last year so and

1830
01:36:54,720 --> 01:36:58,400
Speaker 1: not prohibitively expensive, but just the idea that you find

1831
01:36:58,439 --> 01:37:03,080
Speaker 1: another place right now in your average draft position. And

1832
01:37:03,160 --> 01:37:07,280
Speaker 1: this goes off the Fantasy pros world that only two

1833
01:37:07,720 --> 01:37:12,559
Speaker 1: of your top six players, two of your top nine

1834
01:37:12,680 --> 01:37:16,280
Speaker 1: players are running backs coming off the board in your

1835
01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:21,160
Speaker 1: PPR leagues. McCaffrey, Oh, I guess the other one.

1836
01:37:23,160 --> 01:37:25,639
Speaker 2: Gosh I was. I was almost gonna say Jonathan Taylor,

1837
01:37:25,680 --> 01:37:26,559
Speaker 2: but no, it's the guy we.

1838
01:37:26,600 --> 01:37:30,800
Speaker 1: Blame for everything else for starting this conversation because it's

1839
01:37:30,840 --> 01:37:31,240
Speaker 1: his fault.

1840
01:37:31,479 --> 01:37:35,280
Speaker 2: Tell me, Eckler. Yeah, there we go, right.

1841
01:37:35,320 --> 01:37:37,320
Speaker 1: So the guy with his one hundred and seven catches,

1842
01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:40,639
Speaker 1: the guy that was the undrafted free agent, the little

1843
01:37:40,640 --> 01:37:44,160
Speaker 1: engine that could call into zoom call and look, get

1844
01:37:44,200 --> 01:37:47,040
Speaker 1: what you can get like that. And that's the overriding

1845
01:37:47,160 --> 01:37:49,320
Speaker 1: message to all of this. Go fight for what you

1846
01:37:49,439 --> 01:37:53,240
Speaker 1: think you deserve, but recognize the business realities and the

1847
01:37:53,920 --> 01:37:57,400
Speaker 1: group think of thirty two owners and the deals that

1848
01:37:57,520 --> 01:38:00,200
Speaker 1: have been signed and everything else are probably going to

1849
01:38:00,240 --> 01:38:03,360
Speaker 1: preclude you from getting the giant pot of gold. You

1850
01:38:03,400 --> 01:38:05,519
Speaker 1: may have to just settle for the six point five

1851
01:38:05,640 --> 01:38:08,640
Speaker 1: million dollar pot of gold and maybe fight for some

1852
01:38:08,760 --> 01:38:10,240
Speaker 1: extra incentive based money.

1853
01:38:10,479 --> 01:38:13,080
Speaker 2: I'll tell you the two guys that I find very

1854
01:38:13,240 --> 01:38:19,080
Speaker 2: intriguing in the running back position that I I just

1855
01:38:19,720 --> 01:38:25,280
Speaker 2: wonder a little bit about number one Tony Pollard because

1856
01:38:26,400 --> 01:38:30,240
Speaker 2: new offensive coordinator Mike McCarthy out calling plays in Dallas.

1857
01:38:30,720 --> 01:38:35,400
Speaker 2: But we don't expect much to change, right for workload wise, Right,

1858
01:38:35,520 --> 01:38:38,920
Speaker 2: but even though Zeke's not there anymore, I don't know

1859
01:38:39,040 --> 01:38:43,320
Speaker 2: if you're giving Tony Pollard eight more carries a game.

1860
01:38:43,400 --> 01:38:45,800
Speaker 1: But that's the thing. Physically, he's shown that that's not

1861
01:38:46,120 --> 01:38:49,880
Speaker 1: the way his body works. Right. I think we've got

1862
01:38:49,960 --> 01:38:51,920
Speaker 1: enough of a sample size when he needed to be

1863
01:38:52,760 --> 01:38:55,639
Speaker 1: that guy to where you saw the production dip after

1864
01:38:55,920 --> 01:38:57,599
Speaker 1: touch thirteen or fourteen.

1865
01:38:58,600 --> 01:39:02,320
Speaker 2: But you're still seeing him, I think higher in rankings,

1866
01:39:02,520 --> 01:39:05,240
Speaker 2: mid second round guy right now as opposed to someone

1867
01:39:05,439 --> 01:39:10,479
Speaker 2: like Kenneth Walker in Seattle, and it's the other he's

1868
01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:16,040
Speaker 2: the other question mark because now you've got Zach Charbonay

1869
01:39:17,200 --> 01:39:22,320
Speaker 2: being drafted in the second round and you're wondering, all right,

1870
01:39:22,560 --> 01:39:26,240
Speaker 2: Walker did show a little bit of the injury. He's

1871
01:39:26,320 --> 01:39:29,519
Speaker 2: also a little older when he came into the league.

1872
01:39:31,000 --> 01:39:34,000
Speaker 2: There is I should say there was there's more usage

1873
01:39:34,960 --> 01:39:38,360
Speaker 2: of him coming into the league. So now in Seattle

1874
01:39:39,040 --> 01:39:41,720
Speaker 2: where you've drafted Jackson Smith and Jigba and you feel

1875
01:39:41,760 --> 01:39:43,640
Speaker 2: like you've got these three wide receivers, and I have

1876
01:39:43,760 --> 01:39:47,679
Speaker 2: this other running back. I'm seeing Kenneth Walker falling a lot.

1877
01:39:48,760 --> 01:39:53,160
Speaker 2: And it's not that it's not justified, Mike, I just

1878
01:39:53,479 --> 01:39:56,920
Speaker 2: at what point do you pull the trigger on someone

1879
01:39:57,040 --> 01:39:59,360
Speaker 2: like Kenneth Walker? And I think, like I think Pollard

1880
01:39:59,400 --> 01:40:04,680
Speaker 2: and Walker because where's Walker in terms.

1881
01:40:04,439 --> 01:40:08,120
Speaker 1: Of for running back rankings? Right now? You've got Pollard

1882
01:40:08,160 --> 01:40:11,439
Speaker 1: as the number five yep overall, which doesn't make any

1883
01:40:11,520 --> 01:40:14,120
Speaker 1: sense to me, and then Walker's all the way down

1884
01:40:14,120 --> 01:40:15,240
Speaker 1: at seventeen.

1885
01:40:14,920 --> 01:40:18,679
Speaker 2: Yes, and so there's this big gap. I would imagine,

1886
01:40:19,240 --> 01:40:22,880
Speaker 2: you know, maybe Bryce hall Era, you know area, I bet,

1887
01:40:23,280 --> 01:40:25,720
Speaker 2: but like that's a guy coming off of an ACL.

1888
01:40:25,560 --> 01:40:26,000
Speaker 4: You know, right.

1889
01:40:26,040 --> 01:40:28,280
Speaker 1: But even go further down the list, like a guy

1890
01:40:28,520 --> 01:40:32,240
Speaker 1: like Rashad White, well you may not like Baker Mayfield,

1891
01:40:33,240 --> 01:40:36,000
Speaker 1: There's still going to be stats to be had. And

1892
01:40:36,160 --> 01:40:40,040
Speaker 1: White's the obvious number one for the Buccaneers. And don't

1893
01:40:40,080 --> 01:40:41,560
Speaker 1: tell me he doesn't show out when he's wearing the

1894
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:46,439
Speaker 1: cream skulls. I mean, come on, Alexander Madison is twenty fourth.

1895
01:40:47,040 --> 01:40:49,960
Speaker 1: Now will there be other backs involved? But that's why

1896
01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:55,000
Speaker 1: they let Dalvin Cook go. Was Madison had proven he

1897
01:40:55,120 --> 01:40:58,320
Speaker 1: could be a number one guy. You look at Jamiir

1898
01:40:58,400 --> 01:41:03,439
Speaker 1: Gibbs in Detroit in that same range, in those same tiers,

1899
01:41:03,680 --> 01:41:06,639
Speaker 1: and a guy that I'm really intrigued by is Damian

1900
01:41:06,720 --> 01:41:09,599
Speaker 1: Pierce in Houston. We talked about him on the podcast

1901
01:41:09,640 --> 01:41:11,679
Speaker 1: a lot last year. That team's going to be better.

1902
01:41:11,840 --> 01:41:14,000
Speaker 2: Yes, I agree, yep, right, even if.

1903
01:41:14,000 --> 01:41:17,400
Speaker 1: Just fundamentally, like you just excize some of the demons,

1904
01:41:17,439 --> 01:41:20,759
Speaker 1: some of the history. You're another year removed from everything

1905
01:41:20,880 --> 01:41:24,240
Speaker 1: that got burned down. And that's no attack on Lovey

1906
01:41:24,280 --> 01:41:26,880
Speaker 1: Smith or whatever. It's just you've you've had a very

1907
01:41:27,000 --> 01:41:30,479
Speaker 1: oddly run system and organization for a while, and it

1908
01:41:30,600 --> 01:41:33,680
Speaker 1: looks like you've at least may maybe put down a

1909
01:41:33,840 --> 01:41:38,040
Speaker 1: foundation to build from going forward, and that's going to

1910
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Speaker 1: be your running back to get things started.

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Speaker 2: The reason I bring up Pollard in Walker is this,

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Speaker 2: and can summarize it this way, is I feel like

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Speaker 2: there is this expectation that Pollard's gonna do more. And

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Speaker 2: it's not that what he did last year was peanuts,

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Speaker 2: because he was great last year. Loved him for years,

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Speaker 2: but you have him, you like there. He is high

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Speaker 2: in the rankings where someone like Walker, if you remember,

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Speaker 2: played in fifteen games, but in the first four games,

1919
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Speaker 2: was behind Rashad Penny. So Penny ends up blowing out

1920
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Speaker 2: his knee and then guess what, Seattle had no one

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Speaker 2: behind Kenneth Walker, you know, like it's DJ Dallas and

1922
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Speaker 2: you know a bunch of other guys that you're trying

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Speaker 2: to fill in. So his workload to me, Mike, even

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Speaker 2: with that being said of him being the only guy

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Speaker 2: isn't going to change. It's just the fact of they

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Speaker 2: wanted to running backs. Penny got hurt. Walker ends up

1927
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Speaker 2: being that guy. So now you draft Charboney and now

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Speaker 2: you've got your two headed guy. Walker right over a

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Speaker 2: thousand yards I know, but Big plays ten of them well, but.

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Speaker 1: Too, he was a secondary guy behind Penny, missed a

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Speaker 1: couple of games. Like so there's a lot of noise

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Speaker 1: in the thousand yards. Yes, in first and he was

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Speaker 1: he would be a guy you go a little deeper

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Speaker 1: in the numbers, as do the level of success versus

1935
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Speaker 1: just all right, you got your game.

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Speaker 2: I was, Yeah, I was, I was. I've been up

1937
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Speaker 2: and down on Walker. I'm higher on Walker now seeing

1938
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Speaker 2: where he's going in certain yeah, there's.

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Speaker 1: Certainly some value to be had there. Otherwise it's the

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Speaker 1: usual suspects of Jefferson and Chase Cooper Cup a guy

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Speaker 1: that's getting a lot of run up in that top three,

1942
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Speaker 1: at least what I've seen draft in the auction draft,

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Speaker 1: I think he might have actually commanded the highest price

1944
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Speaker 1: of any player on the board. He's Dan Byer, I'm

1945
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Speaker 1: by Carmon. As we continue here Fox Sports Trading. I

1946
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Speaker 1: mentioned uniform stuff, Well, we got a couple more, one

1947
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Speaker 1: that was rumored finally got acknowledged, and then we have

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Speaker 1: more jerseys coming back. And you know me, I'm a

1949
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Speaker 1: sucker for throwbacks. But first, it's Isaac lower Ground with

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Speaker 1: an update of what's transpiring in our sporting universe.

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Speaker 3: And a lot of stuff transpiring in the NFL already.

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Speaker 3: This morning started with NFL media reporting the three time

1953
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Speaker 3: Pro Bowl pass rusher Daniel Hunters agreed to a new

1954
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Speaker 3: one year, twenty million dollar deal with the Minnesota Vikings

1955
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Speaker 3: with seventeen million guaranteed and a no tag clause. Hunters

1956
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Speaker 3: now previous deal had him making five and a half

1957
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Speaker 3: million dollars this season. Free agent running back Dalvin Cook

1958
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Speaker 3: visiting the New York Jets today. Here is how it

1959
01:44:08,280 --> 01:44:10,600
Speaker 3: sounded when he was greeted by Jets fans as he

1960
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Speaker 3: walked onto the field to watch practice. That audio courtesy

1961
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Speaker 3: of Jets fan Richie Malura, and for context, here are

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Speaker 3: some comments from fans beneath Malura's post. Jay Sweat commented, quote,

1963
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Speaker 3: we are the most thirsty fan base in the world unquote.

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Speaker 3: Ironic that someone called Sweat would be talking about a

1965
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Speaker 3: thirsty fan base. But anyway, Michael posting looking desperate, fellas,

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Speaker 3: how about chanting.

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Speaker 4: One year five mil, one year five mil?

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Speaker 3: And Frank commenting, this would be the best acting job

1969
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Speaker 3: I have ever seen if he does all this just

1970
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Speaker 3: to get Miami to come up to his price.

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Speaker 2: I love how our sources in this update, our NFL

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Speaker 2: media and Frank and Richie, Richie and j Sweat.

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Speaker 3: Yes, you know what's crazy because during training camp all

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Speaker 3: the fans who are at these practices are recording on

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Speaker 3: things on their phones, so you know something happens at practice.

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Speaker 4: They're usually the best sources.

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Speaker 3: By the way, do any fans go to games to

1978
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Speaker 3: just watch the games or do they just all record

1979
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Speaker 3: games on their phones these days and.

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Speaker 2: Then never watch them?

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Speaker 1: Right, I'm going to wear a headcam to Taylor Swift

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Speaker 1: on Friday, so I can.

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Speaker 8: Record the whole Wait a minute, you're going to Taylor Swift. Yeah,

1984
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Speaker 8: that's a that's a whole other that's so far. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: we'll talk about that in a minute.

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Speaker 4: Congratulations, good job.

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Speaker 8: Wow, the kids are going. I'm working to get my

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Speaker 8: way in. Oh gotcha? Yeah, gotcha? Parents are that You're

1989
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Speaker 8: right there, folks.

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Speaker 3: The Pittsburgh Steelers today signed veteran free agent linebacker Kwan

1991
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Speaker 3: Alexander to a one year deal. Boxing Saturday Night, Terrence

1992
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Speaker 3: Crawford and ninth round Tko over Eryl Spence to win

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Speaker 3: the Welterweight Championship women World Cup overnight. Great match, maybe

1994
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Speaker 3: the match of the tournament, Colombia defeating Germany two to one.

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Speaker 3: Germany tied it in the eighty ninth minute with a

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Speaker 3: penalty kick goal, but Columbia would then win it in

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Speaker 3: the second in second half stoppage time seven minutes in

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Speaker 3: and the ninety seventh minute of the match. Baseball Saturday night,

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Speaker 3: the Texas Rangers acquired three time Cy Young Award winner

2000
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Speaker 3: Max Scherzer from the New York Mets. Today, the Los

2001
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Speaker 3: Angeles Angels placed outfielder Taylor Ward on the ten day

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Speaker 3: injured list because of facial fractures plural Ward was hit

2003
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Speaker 3: in the face by a pitch yesterday in a game

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Speaker 3: at Toronto Fellas.

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Speaker 1: Back to you, Thanks Hilo and Isaac lowangrownd where you

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Speaker 1: for my friendship bracelet's If you have a message from

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Speaker 1: a Taylor Swift song you'd like me to hand out it,

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Speaker 1: so please do send it along at Swollen Dome. But

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Speaker 1: also uniforms, helmets so much to add to our shopping

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Speaker 1: lists this fall season. My birthday's coming up. Maybe you

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Speaker 1: can get me something for that. We'll talk about that

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Speaker 1: next year on Fox Welcome back in Fox Sports Sunday,

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Speaker 2: Test Uh beast quake, and now the Swift quake.

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01:47:44,200 --> 01:47:46,920
Speaker 1: See how it all comes together, two legends in their

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Speaker 1: respective fields. Yeah, I mean, look, the short of it

2026
01:47:50,800 --> 01:47:53,160
Speaker 1: was got shut out like everybody else in the Taylor

2027
01:47:53,280 --> 01:47:56,479
Speaker 1: Swift world when tickets first went on sale, and then

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01:47:56,520 --> 01:47:59,720
Speaker 1: they scraped away some of the bots. Secondary chance, I

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01:47:59,760 --> 01:48:03,240
Speaker 1: got one of those highly coveted codes and was able

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Speaker 1: to get two tickets.

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Speaker 2: How did you get just by chance you were that

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01:48:08,160 --> 01:48:10,200
Speaker 2: you got the code or a secret that?

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Speaker 1: No, I have no secrets, a lot of wishing and hoping.

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Speaker 1: You would think that in the business we're in and

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Speaker 1: the company we work for, that I'm a big deal.

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01:48:18,320 --> 01:48:18,360
Speaker 2: No.

2037
01:48:18,479 --> 01:48:21,080
Speaker 1: I pay for my tickets like everybody else. I don't.

2038
01:48:21,560 --> 01:48:24,080
Speaker 1: I don't get a lot of freebies. But running around here.

2039
01:48:24,600 --> 01:48:27,920
Speaker 2: I'd like to Mike should be commended is he has

2040
01:48:28,080 --> 01:48:32,719
Speaker 2: two tickets and they are going to both of his daughters,

2041
01:48:33,000 --> 01:48:35,320
Speaker 2: so he is not using one for himself.

2042
01:48:35,439 --> 01:48:37,800
Speaker 1: Now I'm working to get a third. And you know,

2043
01:48:37,960 --> 01:48:40,600
Speaker 1: rumors are there might be some day of sales that

2044
01:48:41,400 --> 01:48:44,120
Speaker 1: come to Fruition once they get the stage set and

2045
01:48:44,960 --> 01:48:49,000
Speaker 1: because look, they're not giving folks shots and tickets behind

2046
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Speaker 1: the stage setup or whatever. So there are some sections

2047
01:48:52,200 --> 01:48:54,599
Speaker 1: that they could monetize if they wanted to, but they've

2048
01:48:54,640 --> 01:48:57,600
Speaker 1: got some with an obstructed view. So I'm looking to

2049
01:48:57,760 --> 01:49:00,599
Speaker 1: add one because I mean, I've got my set Rollin's

2050
01:49:00,640 --> 01:49:04,400
Speaker 1: inspired outfit on the way. I mean, so other than

2051
01:49:04,520 --> 01:49:05,760
Speaker 1: ruling a parking lot, you.

2052
01:49:05,840 --> 01:49:08,120
Speaker 2: Know, I was amazed that I think it was in

2053
01:49:08,320 --> 01:49:14,400
Speaker 2: Seattle where the line just for merchandise was just super long.

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Speaker 2: And it's been dominated the eras tour. Is that correct?

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01:49:18,400 --> 01:49:18,679
Speaker 1: Correct?

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01:49:18,800 --> 01:49:22,759
Speaker 2: Is dominated TikTok this summer, whether it be from Chicago

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01:49:23,040 --> 01:49:26,479
Speaker 2: to Denver, to Seattle to Kansas City, all the all

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Speaker 2: the places that it's gone and that it's been, And

2059
01:49:28,640 --> 01:49:31,360
Speaker 2: I know I'm leaving spots out, but it is dominated

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01:49:31,720 --> 01:49:34,360
Speaker 2: TikTok like no other. It is.

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Speaker 1: And you're not even a fan, and it's dominated your TikTok.

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01:49:37,360 --> 01:49:41,160
Speaker 2: But I understand TPTB the place to be so for

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01:49:42,200 --> 01:49:45,760
Speaker 2: you in trying to get a third ticket, I get that.

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01:49:46,000 --> 01:49:48,240
Speaker 2: Like I understand that, I don't think that it's it's

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01:49:49,000 --> 01:49:54,880
Speaker 2: crazy when something is so widely sought after and is

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01:49:54,960 --> 01:49:59,320
Speaker 2: such a really it's a phenomenon to see how people

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01:49:59,360 --> 01:50:02,240
Speaker 2: are going crazy over this tour. There will be another

2068
01:50:02,320 --> 01:50:05,080
Speaker 2: tour someday, but it won't be what I think this

2069
01:50:05,320 --> 01:50:08,839
Speaker 2: tour is doing right now. This is just it's absurd,

2070
01:50:08,960 --> 01:50:12,559
Speaker 2: Like they're you know, Coldplay, you two, they've done stadium tours,

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Speaker 2: but there's gonna be one that's better than all of them.

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Speaker 2: And I would assume that this is probably.

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Speaker 1: Well like for you too. Right, they're gonna do the Sphere,

2074
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Speaker 1: that new weird thing in Vegas, right, the new James

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Speaker 1: Dolan acoustically perfect thing. Tickets are going to be crazy,

2076
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Speaker 1: and that that happens come Novembari. We've seen residencies this.

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Speaker 1: I think the agency of being able to get her

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Speaker 1: recordings and doing all the re recording of albums that

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Speaker 1: she now has full control over has been a big deal.

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Speaker 1: And it's just that time because there were there were

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Speaker 1: actually supposed to be a couple of shows here in

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Speaker 1: LA that was called Loverfest West. Now we had a

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01:50:51,000 --> 01:50:53,719
Speaker 1: good block of tickets for those and they got canceled

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01:50:53,720 --> 01:50:57,360
Speaker 1: because of COVID. Oh, so people have been waiting years

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Speaker 1: for the tour. Now let's talk SnO Capped the snow

2086
01:51:01,560 --> 01:51:06,640
Speaker 1: Cap Denver Bronco's helmet was rumored. We talked about it

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Speaker 1: weeks ago and then it got unveiled. Did it live

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Speaker 1: up to the hype for you?

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Speaker 2: I actually think that it did. Denver for some reason,

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Speaker 2: like hits the marks when they do their alternate helmet.

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Speaker 2: I think it's that d with that Bronco snorting it.

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Speaker 2: Whatever's coming out of its mouth or out of its

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Speaker 2: nose like that. It's it is a great, great logo.

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Speaker 2: I think it works with the White mic I I

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01:51:30,880 --> 01:51:33,160
Speaker 2: was skeptical, but I am a fan. I think that it.

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Speaker 2: It does work with Denver. I don't think it's the best,

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01:51:36,280 --> 01:51:38,560
Speaker 2: but I think that it works. So I give a

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01:51:38,640 --> 01:51:39,960
Speaker 2: thumbs up to what Denver did.

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Speaker 1: Have you figured out where it's going to be on

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Speaker 1: the wall, oh Dan Meyer wall of Mini Home.

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Speaker 2: It may have to wait a little while. I told

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Speaker 2: you I ordered the Lions one and he had to

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Speaker 2: come in okay, so but it should be here in

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Speaker 2: a week.

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Speaker 1: How about the Kelly green E?

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Speaker 2: Love it, absolutely love it. I think it's all what

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Speaker 2: we've all been waiting for. Jeffrey Lowie is the one

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Speaker 2: that actually kind of started this. He's got the one

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Speaker 2: pushing this, pushing for this for years and now it's

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Speaker 1: Dan Bayer Final Hour. Already it's going through. We talked

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Speaker 1: a little bit of fantasy football earlier. So much going

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Speaker 1: on with the running back position, the MLB trade deadline,

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Speaker 1: the Women's World Cup, senior golf. We got everything going

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Speaker 1: on here on a beautiful Sunday morning.

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Speaker 2: Think about trade deadline coming up in a league baseball

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Speaker 2: that has got my interest in your interest, I'm also

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Speaker 2: interested in that Senior Open Championship. You talk about golf.

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Speaker 2: Golf also in the Twin Cities this week. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: even though I think a lot of us are like,

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Speaker 2: all right, training camps, NFL football, let's get here, there's

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Speaker 2: still a lot of value in what's going on. And yeah,

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Speaker 2: World Cup. If you're staying up overnight, yea, check it out.

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Speaker 1: As a guy that can't sleep, that's generally what I've

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Speaker 1: been trying to get myself to wind down to. And

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Speaker 1: I've I've been pretty good gotten through a lot of

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Speaker 1: the late matches. Maybe that's why the bags under my

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Speaker 1: eyes are. No matter how big my glasses are, I

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Speaker 1: gotta go to the Harry Carry glasses to kind of

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Speaker 1: keep the bags under my eyes from being seen. But

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Speaker 1: you know, it's it's an exciting time, right obviously a

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Speaker 1: full slate of Major League Baseball. The Angels are gonna

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Speaker 1: play early this morning. That's the Peacock game that everybody bemoans.

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Speaker 1: I had the more streaming services that come in, everybody

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Speaker 1: gets mad. Where can I find my game? And all

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Speaker 1: of that. But we talked about the return of the

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Speaker 1: Kelly Green uniforms for the Eagles and Jeffrey Lowie as

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Speaker 1: a fan wanting to do that. And that's one of

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Speaker 1: the things I think that at least in early response

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Speaker 1: the Washington Commanders and I say Commanders because well, that's

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Speaker 1: the team name for now. But you've got a new

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Speaker 1: ownership group. And when we talk about the changing of

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Speaker 1: the guard with Josh Harris, been very much about his history,

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Speaker 1: his upbringing and what the team is.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: I remember listening to a part of a radio remote

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Speaker 1: as that was officially announced, and he's calling and he

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Speaker 1: decides he's gonna buy everybody a beer on him to

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Speaker 1: celebrate this next thing. You know, this kid that loved

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Speaker 1: this team whatever. But the thing that is the elephant

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Speaker 1: in the room now is what's the name of this

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Speaker 1: squad going to be? Because Commanders is now part of

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Speaker 1: what was the Washington football team. I liked it because

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Speaker 1: it's just kind of odd.

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Speaker 2: But I can't stand it.

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Speaker 1: But well I liked it because it was just different. Right,

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Speaker 1: But we need a nickname. You gotta have a nick name,

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Speaker 1: you gotta have a mask, you gotta.

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Speaker 2: Go to This isn't soccer and.

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Speaker 1: It's football foodball.

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Speaker 2: It's I mean, it's true, it's it's that's what it is. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: just put a teammate. Don't try to be fancy if

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Speaker 2: you want to, that's your unofficial nickname the Washington football team.

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Speaker 2: Totally fine. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think part of it was that they just couldn't

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Speaker 1: get the trademarks because people have been squatting.

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Speaker 2: Sure, you know Chris Burton the New York Football Giants,

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Speaker 2: like that's fine, but we call them the New York Giants.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So that being talked about is what

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Speaker 1: that next name will be. Right, there were some great

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Speaker 1: us you know, like you know, to the Tusk, to

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Speaker 1: the Airmen, to like all the like Redtails, the red Wolves,

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Speaker 1: like all of those were were kind of brought up

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Speaker 1: multiple occasions right as we go through these name changes.

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Speaker 1: But according to a number of reports, the ownership group

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Speaker 1: and people and that are working around in the offices

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Speaker 1: that the name Redskins is being used a bunch in

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Speaker 1: talking about the history, and it's part of the history,

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Speaker 1: right that doesn't get erased. But it lends to just

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Speaker 1: a question, and I think you you arrived there and

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Speaker 1: I was wondering aloud, it's like, could they would they

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Speaker 1: ever ponder the return based on the power of that brand,

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Speaker 1: the history of that brand from a football perspective, and

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Speaker 1: we obviously know everything else that comes with it. Would

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Speaker 1: the NFL even consider it and entertain that notion?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I think that the NFL would. I just again

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Speaker 2: don't know where we really are on this matter, and

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Speaker 2: I want if Isaac is available. Is Isaac Lowen Crown

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Speaker 2: available to us at this point? I'm just curious because

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Speaker 2: I know in terms of using the Washington nickname, in

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Speaker 2: terms of what we've used in the past and what

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Speaker 2: we have there's there have been news outlets that have

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Speaker 2: refused to use the old nickname in the past, and

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Speaker 2: I know that. I know that Isaac Lohencrown. Isaac. Not

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Speaker 2: to put you on the spot here, but I just

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Speaker 2: I know your history. I know what you've done at

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Speaker 2: the news desk, and for years you refuse to use

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Speaker 2: the old Washington nickname. Is there is that correct in terms.

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Speaker 4: Of I refuse to say Washington football team.

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Speaker 2: But I noticed that, And not to put you on

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Speaker 2: the spot, I know that you were doing other work,

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Speaker 2: but like Isaac's, wasn't the only one to do it

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Speaker 2: before it was you would say Washington.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would just say Washington and I wouldn't go

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't overtly say the Washington. I'm refusing to say

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Speaker 3: the nickname. I would just very subtly say Washington, and

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Speaker 3: you're absolutely right down. I wasn't the only one to

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Speaker 3: do it, because I just think that people evolve and

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Speaker 3: societies evolved. Like when I was a kid growing up

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Speaker 3: watching Joe Gibbs and them play at RFK Stadium, I

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Speaker 3: would use the nickname, but I, like I said, I evolved,

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Speaker 3: and over time I started just feeling uncomfortable when I

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Speaker 3: didn't really feel that way before. So I just stopped

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Speaker 3: using it, and you know what, the next morning, the

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Speaker 3: sun still came up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And so like Isaac is one of those that

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Speaker 2: didn't use it, and I used the nickname up until

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Speaker 2: they changed it, and now like I don't even I

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Speaker 2: don't even talk about the prior Super Bowls Mike under

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Speaker 2: the former nickname. I just say Washington.

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Speaker 1: Washington.

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Speaker 2: Want Washington topped the Buffalo Bills, like in that way,

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Speaker 2: because just because they were that nickname back then, they don't.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't give you the get out of jail card,

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Speaker 2: you know, to openly use it. So when you're using

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Speaker 2: that phrase, I just don't know how you can go

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Speaker 2: back to it. That's that's my issue. It was such

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Speaker 2: a and it wasn't just a Daniel Snyder thing. This

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Speaker 2: has been going on way before Daniel Snyder. And I

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Speaker 2: almost think that it's being used as a convenient excuse

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Speaker 2: to try to get the nickname back, is to say, well,

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Speaker 2: it's you know, let's go back to the to the

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Speaker 2: glory days. But even during those glory days, it was

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Speaker 2: a topic of conversation.

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Speaker 1: It was always brought up, right, and then it wasn't

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Speaker 1: the question of you know, how big does the pole

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Speaker 1: have to be for you to decide it doesn't work sure,

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Speaker 1: and that that it shouldn't be there, And that was

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Speaker 1: that was always the problem I had with it, was

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Speaker 1: you always had this, all right, every five years, let's

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Speaker 1: lick our finger and see which with how hard the

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Speaker 1: wind's blowing, and whether you can get you know, some

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Speaker 1: huge momentum behind it, versus maybe we should do it

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Speaker 1: just because we should do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that. I think that the climate of

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Speaker 2: the country at the time, and also Dan Snyder being

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Speaker 2: on his eighty seventh strike with the NFL, was at

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Speaker 2: least trying to do something to back people off. Yeah

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Speaker 2: cater at least something to get off of his back

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Speaker 2: and signed off on it, and you know, allowed it,

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Speaker 2: allowed it to happen because there wasn't a lot of

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Speaker 2: good happening with the football team. And now I think

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Speaker 2: it's a convenient excuse to try to bring it back.

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Speaker 2: I don't no, like I feel like we've already crossed

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Speaker 2: that line. I understand the tradition, I understand people's feelings

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Speaker 2: towards it, but I'm not saying you have to stick

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Speaker 2: with Commanders or football team. I just don't think you

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Speaker 2: can go back to the previous nickname.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it just opens up a lot of

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Speaker 1: the other a lot of the conversations that we've had

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Speaker 1: and certainly colleges, high schools going all the way through,

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Speaker 1: but a lot of name changes and a lot of

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Speaker 1: discussion for various reasons, many of them that come back

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Speaker 1: to race in the country's history and maybe changing you know,

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Speaker 1: it was dedicated to this person historically, maybe we should

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Speaker 1: update it for the people that live and work in

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Speaker 1: that area and go to school there or whatever. You know,

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Speaker 1: just different situations. But just because something was named at

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Speaker 1: once doesn't mean it's right, doesn't mean it doesn't need

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Speaker 1: to change.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: We've got content that we see all the time, television, movies, whatever,

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Speaker 1: in its time. Maybe there's some words, some language that

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Speaker 1: got floated about that just don't fly anymore, right, the

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Speaker 1: name or the potential recognition of damage being caused by

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Speaker 1: the use of those words. It's a different society you evolve.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't mean that you can't go find those except for

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Speaker 1: Song of the South. That's the one that nobody gets

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Speaker 1: to see. That's the Disney film that they've said they

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Speaker 1: will never re release on DVD. So you complete this,

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Speaker 1: you've got to go find a bootleg copy somewhere else.

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Speaker 1: But everything else seems to be out there with a

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Speaker 1: bunch of warnings. Hell, a lot of the old Disney

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Speaker 1: and Looney Tunes or whatever else. There's a disclaimer before, Hey,

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Speaker 1: this contains images of XYZ before you view it. So

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Speaker 1: there's ways but to put it in context. And I'm

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Speaker 1: not looking to throw old books out and whatever else.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you learn about the context and the history,

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Speaker 1: But to go back and rename a team and bring

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Speaker 1: that name back other than the dollars and just saying,

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Speaker 1: let's you know, forget about this period. It does it's

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Speaker 1: not quite so easy.

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Speaker 2: If you called them the Hogs because of what their

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Speaker 2: glory days was. Is that the is that the meeting

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Speaker 2: in the middle, because honestly, Commanders is like everything else.

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Speaker 2: Are are the Is the fan base really gonna be

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Speaker 2: satisfied if they are red Wolves?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: I don't think so either. I thought maybe at one

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Speaker 2: point through the whole process that that would be a

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Speaker 2: good compromise. Are they gonna be? Are they gonna love Redtails?

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Speaker 2: I don't think so. I think it just falls into Commanders, Armada,

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Speaker 2: you know, general whatever, it was not the Washington Generals

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Speaker 2: already taken actually of the of the you know, I

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Speaker 2: think they're just there's not gonna be a name that

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Speaker 2: will satisfy to the extent of the former nickname. And

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Speaker 2: I just don't know. I think the only middle of

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Speaker 2: the road, Mike, is something like Hogs. Otherwise you MOUs

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Speaker 2: just keep Commanders, even even a changing of the nickname

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Speaker 2: back to the old nickname, in changing the logo on

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Speaker 2: your you know, the helmet, I mean, because there for

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Speaker 2: years there was just an R R right and a

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Speaker 2: yellow gold helmet with an R back in the fifties

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Speaker 2: and sixties. Even if you went to that, I still

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Speaker 2: don't think it's enough if you're going back to the

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Speaker 2: to the nickname. I just I feel like they've crossed

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Speaker 2: that line. I understand the nostalgia, but it just seems

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Speaker 2: like a convenient excuse to try to tie Daniel Snyder

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Speaker 2: to commanders when he how long was the owner? You know,

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Speaker 2: was he the owner of the previous nickname? Like it

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Speaker 2: just to me, it just sounds like it's a convenient

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Speaker 2: excuse to try to go back to it. And I

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Speaker 2: it would, but I don't know how you Yeah.

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Speaker 1: With Snyder, I've always just been I've been surprised, you know,

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Speaker 1: of the great quotes about rivalries and what constitutes one

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Speaker 1: because there's one NFL player that just says, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: that ain't it, And we'll tell you what that is

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Speaker 1: and how to extrapolate this into your sporting universe.

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Speaker 2: Next on Fox, Ducks were the odd ones out because

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Speaker 2: they were the ones that were kind of new to

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Speaker 2: the game, and then when they moved to the NFC,

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Speaker 2: you saw these and I'm using air quotes rivalries, but

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Speaker 2: it's it's more as what you say of teams that

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Speaker 2: you don't like. Not everything is a rivalry. Sometimes some

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Speaker 2: are short lived. Everybody hates the Chiefs Bengals Chiefs is

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Speaker 2: a rivalry. Feels like Bill's Chiefs is a rivalry. Chargers

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Speaker 2: Chiefs is a rivalry, but they're not the rivalries of Packers, Bears, Yankees,

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Speaker 2: Red Sox. To your point, Michigan, Ohio, State, Army, Navy,

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Speaker 2: All Duke, North Carolina. It just doesn't go up to those.

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Speaker 2: So there are different levels. There could be current ones.

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Speaker 2: I agree wholeheartedly with Frank Clark. The Broncos may not

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Speaker 2: like the Chiefs, and that's what it is. But you

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Speaker 2: can't say that it's a rivalry right now when Kansas

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Speaker 2: City's had their number over the last seven years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, gotta build to that, right, we talked Cubs Cardinals,

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Speaker 1: but we could do this all day. And depending on

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Speaker 1: who your favorite team is, there's a team that you

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Speaker 1: don't like. It's just how are we are we terming

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Speaker 1: it a rivalry just because there is the animus to

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Speaker 1: it versus just another opponent on the scale. Right in

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Speaker 1: college buckets, you're gonna get the Duke. North Carolina for

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02:08:04,720 --> 02:08:08,360
Speaker 1: a long time made their rivals. But then anybody who

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02:08:08,480 --> 02:08:11,080
Speaker 1: had animus with either of those teams would say, well,

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Speaker 1: that's our rivals. Are they really? Maybe because you've met

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Speaker 1: in the tournament a couple of times, or certainly the

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Speaker 1: NFL or Major League Baseball, we have these runs where

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Speaker 1: teams are meeting in the playoffs with some level of regularity.

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Speaker 1: Right when you have the Dodgers Cardinals for a couple

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Speaker 1: of years, or suddenly it takes on a different energy.

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Speaker 1: But then it dissipates because right now the Cardinals are

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02:08:34,800 --> 02:08:37,680
Speaker 1: in last place and won't trade Nolan or so maybe

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02:08:37,960 --> 02:08:40,000
Speaker 1: with the iron ot or not being dealt, maybe the

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Speaker 1: Dodgers will now see the Cardinals as their nemesis again.

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Speaker 1: But that's all about the Giants, that's all about whoever's

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Speaker 1: fighting them. I mean, Padres want to be that team.

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Speaker 2: Jets Patriots seem to be a rivalry.

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Speaker 5: That was.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say one sided, but I also then remembered,

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Speaker 2: can't wait. You know Bart Scott, the Jets going and

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Speaker 2: winning in New England. But you also had Rex Ryan

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Speaker 2: there that helps it, like.

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Speaker 1: Oh, yelp, fuel it.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, you had the history of Belichick you have with

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Speaker 2: the Jets, Like there are things that tie in. But

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Speaker 2: even going into the season, like I don't look at

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02:09:17,120 --> 02:09:21,960
Speaker 2: Patriots Jets, I actually look at that for the Jets

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Speaker 2: like it's probably the third most important division game, so

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02:09:24,600 --> 02:09:27,160
Speaker 2: it's the last out of the three Bills and Dolphins

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02:09:27,200 --> 02:09:29,720
Speaker 2: that they have more at stake with what's going on.

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Speaker 2: So it does fluctuate. It's the tradition ones Packers and

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Speaker 2: Vikings have a rivalry, but and there's there's hatred and

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02:09:38,600 --> 02:09:43,560
Speaker 2: there's disdain for both fan bases of each other. But

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Speaker 2: I really think that if you were to ask a

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Speaker 2: Packer fan who is their true rival, it would be

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Speaker 2: the Bears just because of the history with it.

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Speaker 1: Well, and you get to claim complete ownership for thirty

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02:09:56,400 --> 02:09:57,320
Speaker 1: plus years.

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Speaker 2: That's true. I always talk about the T shirt that

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Speaker 2: you see Packer fans wear and it's it's the Minnesota

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02:10:04,000 --> 02:10:07,160
Speaker 2: Viking's trophy case and it's a bookshelf that's empty. Like

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Speaker 2: it's like I probably have eight cousins that had that

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Speaker 2: T shirt that love it. But still, when it comes

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02:10:14,400 --> 02:10:17,400
Speaker 2: down to it, it's the Bears. I don't know when

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Speaker 2: it comes down to it who the Broncos and Broncos

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Speaker 2: rival is or the Chief's rival is. I just know

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Speaker 2: that they both hate the Raiders, and that's maybe the

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Speaker 2: common ground instead of yeah, I mean yeah, but they

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Speaker 2: have the more of a reason to really hate the Raiders.

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Speaker 2: Same thing with the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: He's Dan Byron, Mike Carmen. We're company live from the

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Speaker 1: Tirak dot Com Fox Sports Radio Studios, coming up to

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Speaker 1: a conference realignment continues. Uh, and here on the West Coast,

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Speaker 1: we didn't get a big earthquake except for that Swift quake,

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Speaker 1: but the the rumblings of what is to come. Uh,

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Speaker 1: that's an interesting philosophical point upon her. We'll do that now,

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Speaker 1: but first to Taac Lowland Croud with an update on

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Speaker 1: our supporting universe.

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Speaker 3: What's up, Bilow, Yeah, guys, really busy day, so far

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Speaker 3: in the NFL, starting with NFL Media reporting, three time

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Speaker 3: Pro Bowl pass rusher Daniel Hunter has agreed to a

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Speaker 3: new one year, twenty million dollar contract with the Minnesota Vikings,

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Speaker 3: coming off a ten and a half SAX season in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty two. On the new deal, seventeen million dollars

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Speaker 3: are guaranteed. He also gets a note tag clause Hunters

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Speaker 3: now previous deal had to making five and a half

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Speaker 3: million dollars this season. Free agent running back Dalvin Cook

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Speaker 3: visited the New York Jets today. He even watched Jets

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Speaker 3: practice from the field. The Pittsburgh Steelers today signed veteran

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Speaker 3: free agent linebacker Kwan Alexander to a one year deal.

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Speaker 3: Detroit Lions head coach Dan Campbell said today that offensive

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Speaker 3: tackle Pinay Soul is in concussion protocol but could return

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Speaker 3: to practice as soon as Wednesday. In boxing, on Saturday night,

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Speaker 3: Terrence Crawford scored a ninth round TKO over Aerol Spence

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Speaker 3: Junior to win the welterweight title at the Women World Cup. Overnight,

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Speaker 3: Colombia scored a stunning two to one victory over Germany.

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Speaker 3: Germany had tied it on a penalty kick goal in

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Speaker 3: the eighty ninth minute, but then Columbia scored the game

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Speaker 3: winner in second half stoppage time. In Major League Baseball,

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Speaker 3: Saturday night, the Texas Rangers acquired three times cy On

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Speaker 3: Award winner Max Scherzer from the New York Mets, while

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Speaker 3: today the Los Angeles Angels placed outfielder Taylor Ward on

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Speaker 3: the ten day injured list because of facial fractures. Ward

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Speaker 3: was hit in the face by a pitch yesterday in

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Speaker 3: a game at Toronto. The Angels game at Toronto today

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Speaker 3: is underway. They are scoreless in the top half of

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Speaker 3: the second inning. Fellas, back to you.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about it next on Fox.

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Speaker 2: Well, if you I'll tell you one thing, We're gonna

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02:13:23,480 --> 02:13:26,800
Speaker 2: have to maybe change the name of the Big twelve

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Speaker 2: if they start expanding more and more and.

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Speaker 1: More, Well they want to go to fourteen. Yeah, right,

2495
02:13:32,360 --> 02:13:34,920
Speaker 1: is what they're saying. Right, I get my timing down

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Speaker 1: in distance. You get used to your protocols, and then

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Speaker 1: you you alter it up.

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Speaker 2: But the idea is, you know, with.

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Speaker 1: With Colorado moving giant paycheck right thirty one point six

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Speaker 1: million dollars or thereabouts. And we've we've been making fun

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Speaker 1: of the PAC twelve forever in terms of media rights.

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Speaker 1: The handling from the former president and all the conference

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Speaker 1: from the conference missioner as well as the just the

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02:14:02,840 --> 02:14:07,680
Speaker 1: heads of each school. Right, they agreed to really a

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02:14:07,720 --> 02:14:10,840
Speaker 1: whole lot of nothing. And you watched Texas create their

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Speaker 1: own network, You watched what the Big ten network became,

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Speaker 1: You saw these other things rights deals. You bought a

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Speaker 1: plot of land in San Francisco, and you should have

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Speaker 1: been able to make out on the real estate. But

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Speaker 1: beyond that, I mean that that was just a faulty

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Speaker 1: move and showed some lack of foresight. And look, you've

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Speaker 1: got new leadership, so maybe you can go in a

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Speaker 1: different direction. But that's also a guy that was endorsed

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Speaker 1: by the guy running things at Northwestern right now, and

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't have a whole lot of confidence

2516
02:14:44,880 --> 02:14:46,560
Speaker 1: he knows what he's doing. But for the Big Twelve,

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02:14:46,920 --> 02:14:49,920
Speaker 1: Colorado's a team with an over under of a three

2518
02:14:50,000 --> 02:14:52,920
Speaker 1: and a half wins, yet they're a power broker as

2519
02:14:52,960 --> 02:14:54,800
Speaker 1: all this plays with Dion Sanders, and.

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Speaker 2: There's there's been a lot of talk of where this

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Speaker 2: addition to the Big Twelve puts that conference compared to

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Speaker 2: the ACC obviously short of the Big Ten in the SEC,

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Speaker 2: and I would, honestly, I would even argue that the

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Speaker 2: Big Twelve may be blasphemous to those in the Atlantic

2525
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Speaker 2: Coast Conference, but the Big Twelve has been a better

2526
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Speaker 2: conference than the ACC has been. So like to me,

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Speaker 2: right now, there isn't a race. And you say, well,

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02:15:21,240 --> 02:15:24,520
Speaker 2: they're gonna lose Oklahoma in Texas, well, that's fair enough,

2529
02:15:24,840 --> 02:15:27,760
Speaker 2: But also remember this who played in the conference championship

2530
02:15:27,800 --> 02:15:29,520
Speaker 2: game last year for the bell It was TCU in

2531
02:15:29,640 --> 02:15:33,800
Speaker 2: Kansas State who recently won a national championship in college

2532
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Speaker 2: basketball in the Big Twelve in twenty twenty two, Kansas

2533
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Speaker 2: Jayhawks who won it in twenty twenty one, the Baylor Bears,

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Speaker 2: who made it to the championship game in twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 2: Texas Tech Red Raiders. So you're talking about not only

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Speaker 2: the strength of football, and you had a team go

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Speaker 2: to the national title game. We'll forget about the final

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Speaker 2: score of that national title game. But like I would

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Speaker 2: argue that the Big Twelve has been stronger than the

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Speaker 2: ACC and has been a better conference. And now you

2541
02:16:02,120 --> 02:16:05,440
Speaker 2: add Colorado, and now you start to see if the

2542
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Speaker 2: Pac twelve is breaking down before our eyes. They can't

2543
02:16:10,560 --> 02:16:13,840
Speaker 2: get their stuff ready to leave San Diego State hanging.

2544
02:16:14,160 --> 02:16:16,360
Speaker 2: Now Colorado's on the move, and I think others could

2545
02:16:16,360 --> 02:16:18,240
Speaker 2: be as well. Arizona's been a team that's been rumored.

2546
02:16:18,280 --> 02:16:21,280
Speaker 2: Dennistott ats CBS Sports has talked about it, think Brett

2547
02:16:21,360 --> 02:16:22,120
Speaker 2: McMurphy as well.

2548
02:16:22,160 --> 02:16:25,560
Speaker 1: Action Network, Well, we've talked about Oregon forever. Yeah, as

2549
02:16:25,640 --> 02:16:29,960
Speaker 1: do you know they bring assets that other schools don't. Sure?

2550
02:16:30,240 --> 02:16:31,920
Speaker 2: Sure, but I don't think they bring it to the

2551
02:16:32,000 --> 02:16:35,400
Speaker 2: Big Twelve. I think like an Oregon and Washington's goal

2552
02:16:36,200 --> 02:16:38,120
Speaker 2: really seems to be the Big ten, right and then

2553
02:16:38,120 --> 02:16:41,600
Speaker 2: we're talking twenty Yeah, and there were talks between the schools.

2554
02:16:41,640 --> 02:16:44,560
Speaker 2: Brett McMurphy had that a few months ago. But when

2555
02:16:44,600 --> 02:16:49,000
Speaker 2: you see where the where things are right now, it's

2556
02:16:49,040 --> 02:16:52,039
Speaker 2: going to be a decade plus before the ACC can

2557
02:16:52,200 --> 02:16:54,720
Speaker 2: really break up and get out of their current deal.

2558
02:16:55,160 --> 02:16:58,320
Speaker 2: And I think at that point ten, twelve, thirteen years

2559
02:16:58,360 --> 02:17:02,800
Speaker 2: from now, I think you'll see that conference breakup. The

2560
02:17:03,200 --> 02:17:04,640
Speaker 2: SEC and the Big ten are just going to be

2561
02:17:04,720 --> 02:17:07,440
Speaker 2: too big. You're gonna end up having super conferences, which

2562
02:17:07,520 --> 02:17:09,800
Speaker 2: we've all talked about. But in the meantime, in these

2563
02:17:09,879 --> 02:17:12,160
Speaker 2: next ten to thirteen years that you have the Big

2564
02:17:12,200 --> 02:17:14,640
Speaker 2: twelve is like, how can we make hey and their

2565
02:17:14,800 --> 02:17:18,560
Speaker 2: addition of Colorado MIC is important on a couple of levels.

2566
02:17:19,120 --> 02:17:21,119
Speaker 2: If you can bring in Utah and you can bring

2567
02:17:21,200 --> 02:17:25,120
Speaker 2: in Arizona, you've now got like a pod of four

2568
02:17:25,240 --> 02:17:28,800
Speaker 2: schools from generally the same area. You also then have

2569
02:17:28,959 --> 02:17:34,600
Speaker 2: Texas Tech Baylor TCU in Houston, State of Texas. That's

2570
02:17:34,600 --> 02:17:38,920
Speaker 2: an area. You have Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, and

2571
02:17:39,720 --> 02:17:43,480
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State similar regions. And now you've got this branch

2572
02:17:43,560 --> 02:17:47,920
Speaker 2: out of West Virginia. Remember they're still in the league.

2573
02:17:48,080 --> 02:17:52,240
Speaker 2: Cincinnati's been added, UCF's added, and there's Yukont hanging out there.

2574
02:17:52,680 --> 02:17:55,560
Speaker 2: The Big Twelve has set itself up not only to

2575
02:17:55,680 --> 02:18:00,000
Speaker 2: be geographically across the entire country. They've made it advantageou

2576
02:18:00,280 --> 02:18:02,360
Speaker 2: Unlike the Big Ten, where you have two schools that

2577
02:18:02,480 --> 02:18:04,920
Speaker 2: are in Los Angeles and everybody else is two time

2578
02:18:05,040 --> 02:18:08,199
Speaker 2: zones away or three time zones away. You have pods

2579
02:18:08,360 --> 02:18:11,039
Speaker 2: of schools. You have four schools here, four schools here,

2580
02:18:11,320 --> 02:18:14,280
Speaker 2: four schools here, and four schools there. And that's how

2581
02:18:14,320 --> 02:18:16,240
Speaker 2: I think the Big Twelve is trying to win. That's

2582
02:18:16,240 --> 02:18:18,760
Speaker 2: why you hear Yukon. That's why you hear Arizona. So

2583
02:18:18,840 --> 02:18:21,520
Speaker 2: when they set up their league to be that nationwide conference,

2584
02:18:21,560 --> 02:18:23,600
Speaker 2: they can do that in a certain way. So that's

2585
02:18:23,600 --> 02:18:26,199
Speaker 2: why thek Arizona and Utah and play as well as Yukon,

2586
02:18:26,240 --> 02:18:29,720
Speaker 2: which we have heard before of maybe leaving their conferences

2587
02:18:29,760 --> 02:18:30,879
Speaker 2: to go to the Big Twelve.

2588
02:18:30,640 --> 02:18:33,760
Speaker 1: And forwards a little bit in the scheduling world, right

2589
02:18:33,840 --> 02:18:36,520
Speaker 1: in terms of flights, because well we look ahead for

2590
02:18:36,640 --> 02:18:41,080
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. In the Big Ten, you start doing

2591
02:18:41,160 --> 02:18:44,039
Speaker 1: the log of miles like we do. It's the Seattle Seahawks.

2592
02:18:44,520 --> 02:18:47,200
Speaker 1: Every year they're gonna log the most miles for road

2593
02:18:47,240 --> 02:18:49,880
Speaker 1: trips and such. But to your point, I mean, the

2594
02:18:50,200 --> 02:18:54,000
Speaker 1: inevitability is we get to the super conference phase. It's

2595
02:18:54,080 --> 02:18:56,560
Speaker 1: just a matter of how fast, right, because you're gonna

2596
02:18:56,560 --> 02:18:59,920
Speaker 1: have teams that slough off. Like we joked about it before,

2597
02:19:00,160 --> 02:19:04,800
Speaker 1: all the scandal of does Northwestern really fit the next era?

2598
02:19:04,920 --> 02:19:08,760
Speaker 1: Because does the academic thing really matter on the level

2599
02:19:08,879 --> 02:19:11,320
Speaker 1: that they used to claim it did, right when you're

2600
02:19:11,360 --> 02:19:14,480
Speaker 1: talking about member institutions. That was the one thing Northwestern

2601
02:19:14,520 --> 02:19:17,440
Speaker 1: can always bring to the table. You're gonna fight hard,

2602
02:19:18,200 --> 02:19:21,480
Speaker 1: rise up once in a while, but they're gonna carry

2603
02:19:21,520 --> 02:19:25,080
Speaker 1: the torch in terms of all of these nobel laureates

2604
02:19:25,160 --> 02:19:29,800
Speaker 1: and everything else and people of influence and the academic side.

2605
02:19:30,120 --> 02:19:33,400
Speaker 1: So you've got the small private school that is in

2606
02:19:33,600 --> 02:19:37,000
Speaker 1: the dance, well going forward, do they make sense or

2607
02:19:37,040 --> 02:19:40,560
Speaker 1: are they often a conference Once the PAC twelve fully splinters.

2608
02:19:40,600 --> 02:19:44,360
Speaker 1: If they do, which I would assume we're heading that point,

2609
02:19:44,520 --> 02:19:47,240
Speaker 1: they'll do their last ditch effort to try to grab

2610
02:19:47,360 --> 02:19:53,960
Speaker 1: whatever teams. But do you have the Vanderbilt Northwestern cal

2611
02:19:55,480 --> 02:19:58,600
Speaker 1: and just go around and you start picking a conference

2612
02:19:58,640 --> 02:20:00,600
Speaker 1: where the teams and it's not to say, hey, go

2613
02:20:00,720 --> 02:20:02,600
Speaker 1: get all the academic institutes. So that was not the

2614
02:20:02,680 --> 02:20:04,960
Speaker 1: point of that. It was more just the which of

2615
02:20:05,000 --> 02:20:07,600
Speaker 1: these are not like the others in the conferences in

2616
02:20:07,680 --> 02:20:11,160
Speaker 1: which they play to where as you redistribute and you

2617
02:20:11,160 --> 02:20:12,760
Speaker 1: could say, well we can go get that school and

2618
02:20:12,840 --> 02:20:17,760
Speaker 1: they bring whatever else athletically, geographically, all of this, they're

2619
02:20:17,800 --> 02:20:21,400
Speaker 1: better and more advantageous to us than say Northwestern. Is

2620
02:20:21,600 --> 02:20:23,480
Speaker 1: not that you want to lose Chicago, but if Illinois

2621
02:20:23,560 --> 02:20:25,760
Speaker 1: is doing what they are, you got Illinois.

2622
02:20:25,920 --> 02:20:27,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, right, and.

2623
02:20:27,720 --> 02:20:30,199
Speaker 1: They've done some good things. Now they hire Jim Leonard

2624
02:20:30,680 --> 02:20:33,240
Speaker 1: there as a special assistant, and they've already had a

2625
02:20:33,320 --> 02:20:35,920
Speaker 1: program a bit on the rise. But just the idea

2626
02:20:36,120 --> 02:20:39,440
Speaker 1: of this constant shuffling, because we saw with the Jim

2627
02:20:39,720 --> 02:20:44,880
Speaker 1: Harbaugh you know discussion they're negotiating a four game suspension.

2628
02:20:45,320 --> 02:20:48,440
Speaker 1: The hell is that used to be in charge the

2629
02:20:48,560 --> 02:20:51,320
Speaker 1: Tennessee Saint Just hey, it's an eight million dollar you

2630
02:20:51,360 --> 02:20:53,640
Speaker 1: know what, We're gonna take some of those old wins away.

2631
02:20:53,840 --> 02:20:56,640
Speaker 1: None of that matters, Like they're showing that they're out.

2632
02:20:56,800 --> 02:20:59,680
Speaker 1: So the conferences more or less could do what they want.

2633
02:21:00,080 --> 02:21:03,600
Speaker 2: And I would also say that the conferences in the

2634
02:21:03,720 --> 02:21:05,560
Speaker 2: SEC and the Big Ten. If you were to take

2635
02:21:05,680 --> 02:21:09,320
Speaker 2: any school from the ACC or the Big twelve and

2636
02:21:09,480 --> 02:21:12,200
Speaker 2: what's left of the PAC twelve right now, if there

2637
02:21:12,240 --> 02:21:17,000
Speaker 2: were no restrictions or fines or a grant of rights

2638
02:21:17,160 --> 02:21:19,920
Speaker 2: or anything to deal with, every single one of those

2639
02:21:19,920 --> 02:21:23,160
Speaker 2: schools from the Big twelve, ACC or PAC twelve would

2640
02:21:23,240 --> 02:21:25,040
Speaker 2: leave for the Big ten or SEC tomorrow.

2641
02:21:25,240 --> 02:21:25,520
Speaker 1: Harpy.

2642
02:21:25,840 --> 02:21:28,960
Speaker 2: Absolutely, it is not because they believe in their league.

2643
02:21:29,000 --> 02:21:31,840
Speaker 2: It's not because it's because they don't have the options

2644
02:21:31,959 --> 02:21:34,080
Speaker 2: right now. That is why, and that's why it's a

2645
02:21:34,160 --> 02:21:37,240
Speaker 2: ten to thirteen year window because once the ACC is

2646
02:21:37,320 --> 02:21:40,760
Speaker 2: grant of rights and their deal is up, then then

2647
02:21:40,800 --> 02:21:44,119
Speaker 2: allows Clemson in Florida State and North Carolina and NC

2648
02:21:44,240 --> 02:21:46,480
Speaker 2: State and Virginia and the others to do what they

2649
02:21:46,560 --> 02:21:49,879
Speaker 2: want to do. So way, it's likely a ways off.

2650
02:21:49,959 --> 02:21:51,840
Speaker 2: But I mean, I give the Big twelve credit for

2651
02:21:52,600 --> 02:21:57,280
Speaker 2: being active and proactive and formulating a league, and they've

2652
02:21:57,320 --> 02:21:59,880
Speaker 2: had success within their programs, and then that's why I

2653
02:22:00,040 --> 02:22:02,440
Speaker 2: feel they've been better than the ACC. So I'll take

2654
02:22:02,480 --> 02:22:05,160
Speaker 2: the next you know, ten years and take advantage of it.

2655
02:22:05,280 --> 02:22:07,800
Speaker 2: But in reality, it's just a matter of time before

2656
02:22:08,160 --> 02:22:09,680
Speaker 2: the Big ten at SEC get their way.

2657
02:22:09,840 --> 02:22:11,880
Speaker 1: Well, and for this one you also get to we

2658
02:22:12,040 --> 02:22:16,400
Speaker 1: talk about history and bringing history back Colorado. We're back

2659
02:22:16,720 --> 02:22:20,640
Speaker 1: from whence we came. Let's let's go and we bring Dion.

2660
02:22:21,280 --> 02:22:23,000
Speaker 2: And that's a huge part of it. And the reverse

2661
02:22:23,080 --> 02:22:24,600
Speaker 2: part about it is I feel bad because I was

2662
02:22:24,640 --> 02:22:27,160
Speaker 2: so excited Yukon's back in the Big East. Yeah, Big

2663
02:22:27,240 --> 02:22:29,520
Speaker 2: East Tournament. Look at you Gan them, they're already ready

2664
02:22:29,560 --> 02:22:31,959
Speaker 2: to jump ship and the Big twelve if they get

2665
02:22:32,040 --> 02:22:32,680
Speaker 2: that offer.

2666
02:22:32,600 --> 02:22:36,240
Speaker 1: Whatever bigger deal is unrestricted free agency for schools too.

2667
02:22:37,000 --> 02:22:39,840
Speaker 1: As we roll forward, he's Dan, I'm Mike coming up

2668
02:22:39,879 --> 02:22:42,840
Speaker 1: next to the play of the day, as well as

2669
02:22:43,040 --> 02:22:47,320
Speaker 1: the idea of rebranding yourself. What would it cost? We'll

2670
02:22:47,360 --> 02:22:49,560
Speaker 1: do that and hear from a running back who might

2671
02:22:49,600 --> 02:22:51,800
Speaker 1: be the voice of Reezon. Lots to cover here as

2672
02:22:51,840 --> 02:22:53,840
Speaker 1: we close up shop here on a Fox Sports Sunday,

2673
02:22:58,720 --> 02:23:09,280
Speaker 1: Welcome back in sports radio. It's time for our Play

2674
02:23:09,360 --> 02:23:12,480
Speaker 1: of the day, brought to you by Progressive Now.

2675
02:23:12,600 --> 02:23:15,560
Speaker 2: The one one swe head on the air, the left

2676
02:23:15,640 --> 02:23:20,480
Speaker 2: center hit pause, high hurt Us far hurt Us gone, the.

2677
02:23:20,640 --> 02:23:21,879
Speaker 4: Deep left center field.

2678
02:23:22,320 --> 02:23:24,760
Speaker 2: It is a judge and blast.

2679
02:23:26,240 --> 02:23:29,600
Speaker 4: That's a two run dinger the Deep Let.

2680
02:23:29,520 --> 02:23:34,640
Speaker 1: Center exciting to hear that once again Yankees Radio Network

2681
02:23:34,760 --> 02:23:38,680
Speaker 1: on the call, Judge's twentieth of the year. Might there

2682
02:23:38,760 --> 02:23:42,440
Speaker 1: be enough juice left in this squad to make a

2683
02:23:42,560 --> 02:23:46,720
Speaker 1: run in the Al East trade deadline? Will the Yankees

2684
02:23:46,800 --> 02:23:51,680
Speaker 1: actually be buyers and find themselves a trade partner? Cody

2685
02:23:51,720 --> 02:23:53,680
Speaker 1: Bellinger had been rumored for weeks and then the Cubs

2686
02:23:53,720 --> 02:23:57,440
Speaker 1: went and started winning games and everybody had them photos

2687
02:23:57,480 --> 02:24:01,320
Speaker 1: shopped and ready to show up for the right the porch.

2688
02:24:01,600 --> 02:24:05,600
Speaker 2: And Jeff pass It even ESPN tuning. Yeah, no longer

2689
02:24:05,879 --> 02:24:09,199
Speaker 2: are the Cubs going to sell on Cody Belleninger.

2690
02:24:08,920 --> 02:24:11,920
Speaker 1: Well, folks salty because that also takes would be Ace

2691
02:24:12,040 --> 02:24:15,520
Speaker 1: off the market and Marcus Stroman, who also was rumored

2692
02:24:15,600 --> 02:24:17,120
Speaker 1: to be on the move.

2693
02:24:17,320 --> 02:24:17,800
Speaker 9: The the.

2694
02:24:19,400 --> 02:24:21,480
Speaker 2: Give and take of this as well, Mike is guys

2695
02:24:21,600 --> 02:24:24,440
Speaker 2: being pulled back, But now you have more interest in

2696
02:24:24,480 --> 02:24:27,960
Speaker 2: the rest of the season for these other teams. It's

2697
02:24:28,879 --> 02:24:32,240
Speaker 2: the wild card. The expansion of the playoffs is all allowed.

2698
02:24:33,520 --> 02:24:36,200
Speaker 2: You know, maybe in the old format Cubs aren't doing this.

2699
02:24:36,440 --> 02:24:38,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've got a couple of couple of bottom feeders. Right,

2700
02:24:39,040 --> 02:24:42,240
Speaker 1: my beloved White Sox. You talk about the A's and

2701
02:24:42,320 --> 02:24:45,480
Speaker 1: the Royals and and there's a few teams. Everybody else

2702
02:24:45,560 --> 02:24:48,879
Speaker 1: is still potentially viable with a little bit of a run,

2703
02:24:49,280 --> 02:24:52,240
Speaker 1: which makes the trade market a little bit interesting in

2704
02:24:52,400 --> 02:24:55,760
Speaker 1: terms of how few sellers they are there are, and

2705
02:24:55,879 --> 02:24:58,240
Speaker 1: then you know, if you go for it and miss

2706
02:24:58,920 --> 02:25:00,960
Speaker 1: curious as to what the off season comes because we

2707
02:25:01,000 --> 02:25:04,840
Speaker 1: see the you know, burn kind of strategy going on,

2708
02:25:05,000 --> 02:25:08,280
Speaker 1: because we watch the Mets turn wondering if the Padres

2709
02:25:08,320 --> 02:25:11,920
Speaker 1: are too stubborn to recognize where they are in the

2710
02:25:12,080 --> 02:25:15,160
Speaker 1: baseball landscape. Wanted to turn attention real quick back to

2711
02:25:15,280 --> 02:25:19,199
Speaker 1: the running back conversation, because we've got Ersay, We've got Taylor,

2712
02:25:19,560 --> 02:25:22,800
Speaker 1: you got Jerry Jones talking about Zach Martin and Tony

2713
02:25:22,920 --> 02:25:25,640
Speaker 1: Pollard and paying the quarterback and all that. But I

2714
02:25:25,720 --> 02:25:29,119
Speaker 1: thought the remarks from Travis etn we're pretty well measured

2715
02:25:29,800 --> 02:25:31,879
Speaker 1: kind of talking about the landscape and where we sit

2716
02:25:32,000 --> 02:25:32,280
Speaker 1: right now.

2717
02:25:33,400 --> 02:25:35,360
Speaker 2: I feel like I really don't have a word in that.

2718
02:25:35,440 --> 02:25:38,320
Speaker 9: Honestly, I feel like the market is what the market is,

2719
02:25:38,440 --> 02:25:41,080
Speaker 9: and for me to go out there and give the

2720
02:25:41,160 --> 02:25:43,040
Speaker 9: best deal for myself have to come out here and

2721
02:25:43,080 --> 02:25:44,039
Speaker 9: work for each and every day.

2722
02:25:44,280 --> 02:25:46,640
Speaker 2: If I don't produce or be productive, I'm.

2723
02:25:46,480 --> 02:25:49,039
Speaker 9: Not going to even be in that conversation or manybe

2724
02:25:49,040 --> 02:25:50,800
Speaker 9: you're looking to pay me. So best thing I have

2725
02:25:50,800 --> 02:25:52,280
Speaker 9: could do it just keep my head down and keep

2726
02:25:52,320 --> 02:25:53,240
Speaker 9: working and win games.

2727
02:25:53,120 --> 02:25:53,840
Speaker 2: With my football team.

2728
02:25:54,560 --> 02:25:56,320
Speaker 10: But do you feel like it could be an uphill

2729
02:25:56,400 --> 02:25:59,560
Speaker 10: battle for running back specifically just because it seems like

2730
02:26:00,080 --> 02:26:02,480
Speaker 10: you know he'll give you three hundred carries one season,

2731
02:26:02,480 --> 02:26:05,040
Speaker 10: three hundred carries the next with draft your replacement. So

2732
02:26:05,080 --> 02:26:06,720
Speaker 10: do you think it could be like an uphill battle

2733
02:26:06,760 --> 02:26:08,520
Speaker 10: sometimes just in that position group?

2734
02:26:09,560 --> 02:26:11,280
Speaker 9: Definitely, But I feel like it also depends on the

2735
02:26:11,320 --> 02:26:13,040
Speaker 9: type of back you are sure because you've done the

2736
02:26:13,080 --> 02:26:15,840
Speaker 9: see some backs get paid like Christian McCaffrey for instance,

2737
02:26:15,879 --> 02:26:18,000
Speaker 9: he kissed the ball at the backfield. So I feel

2738
02:26:18,040 --> 02:26:21,000
Speaker 9: like for running backman, before you have to versify the game,

2739
02:26:21,040 --> 02:26:23,039
Speaker 9: you have to just be more than just a downhill

2740
02:26:23,080 --> 02:26:25,560
Speaker 9: bruiser in order to be able to do on that level,

2741
02:26:25,600 --> 02:26:27,640
Speaker 9: in order to talk that leverage whenever you're going to

2742
02:26:27,720 --> 02:26:31,000
Speaker 9: the conversations, because like you said, like you three hundred

2743
02:26:31,040 --> 02:26:34,040
Speaker 9: carries and twin ten rushing yards, you see what the

2744
02:26:34,080 --> 02:26:35,200
Speaker 9: market is for you guys like that.

2745
02:26:35,360 --> 02:26:37,120
Speaker 2: So for us as we have to.

2746
02:26:37,160 --> 02:26:40,040
Speaker 9: Keep continue to grow and involve our game. Could you

2747
02:26:40,040 --> 02:26:41,840
Speaker 9: see the way that football's going, you see as a

2748
02:26:41,879 --> 02:26:44,840
Speaker 9: passing league now and we just have to evolves as a.

2749
02:26:44,840 --> 02:26:50,640
Speaker 1: Whope, nuanced, well reasoned response and in two years he'll

2750
02:26:50,680 --> 02:26:54,120
Speaker 1: be leading the zoom calls that Austin this year after

2751
02:26:54,240 --> 02:26:54,640
Speaker 1: he has.

2752
02:26:57,200 --> 02:26:59,920
Speaker 2: He's in that spot though, Mike that is that is

2753
02:27:00,800 --> 02:27:04,000
Speaker 2: later first round pick Josh Jacobs Arrow. Remember we were

2754
02:27:04,040 --> 02:27:07,640
Speaker 2: talking earlier like we don't feel that Austin Eckler really

2755
02:27:07,879 --> 02:27:11,760
Speaker 2: should be the guy considering because of where he came

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Speaker 2: from and where he is now. He's benefited from the

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Speaker 2: you know, Melvin Gordon didn't get his you know, didn't

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Speaker 2: want to deal. Eckler's the one that benefits now. Eckler's

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Speaker 2: on the other side of it. Maybe Saquon Barkley isn't

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Speaker 2: because he's the front of the draft and you're making

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Speaker 2: more money than someone who's at the back of the

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Speaker 2: draft but still has to have a fifth year option

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Speaker 2: add it on to their Yeah, that maybe Travis etm E.

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Speaker 2: D n is the one to speak on this issue.

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Speaker 2: The only thing that I would say with the McCaffrey deal.

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Speaker 2: Is McCaffrey's partly to blame with some of this because

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Speaker 2: after he got the deal, the injuries that he ended

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Speaker 2: up having to deal with, And so we point to

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Speaker 2: a lot of different people and saying was this the

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Speaker 2: reason or was that the reason. McCaffrey was a great

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Speaker 2: addition for the San Francisco forty nine ers, but in

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Speaker 2: his time and Carolina, after getting that contract, I think

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Speaker 2: that they would say that maybe the money was not

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Speaker 2: as well spent as they would have.

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Speaker 1: Hoped, certainly not the the success. And we watch what

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Speaker 1: happened with Matt Ruhle in Carolina as you roll through

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Speaker 1: to talk about jobs, and going back to the comments

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Speaker 1: of Sean Payton that we broke down earlier. All right, Dan,

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Speaker 1: last thing much made about this over the course of

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Speaker 1: the week. And we've had this similar conversation before through

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Speaker 1: different contests. Subway, fifty thousand dollars to legally change your

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Speaker 1: name to Subway.

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Speaker 2: Not gonna happen. There is no way that's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: I mean, for fifty grand, you got to give me

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Speaker 1: a lot. I mean, for a naming thing, you gotta

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Speaker 1: give me a lot more than fifty grand. That ain't

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Speaker 1: getting it done.

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Speaker 2: It would be my way or the highway. That would

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Speaker 2: be it was that olympiscuit line. Now there would be

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Speaker 2: no fifty grand, not even close. Is that really a

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Speaker 2: olympuss things? My way?

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Speaker 1: Sam yells yes, and.

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Speaker 2: He knows that that was just for me to get

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Speaker 2: a dumb line in.

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Speaker 1: But I would know I like that, and I would

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Speaker 1: not have known that, nor would I have.

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Speaker 2: Long then subway, I tell you that much. That's that's

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Speaker 2: that's Sunday Morning.

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Speaker 5: Dan.

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Speaker 2: You can't do that.

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Speaker 1: No, it's just saying, yeah, it's it's one that uh

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Speaker 1: for the ages. I kind of dig it.

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Speaker 2: The I'm proud of my name. People mess it up

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Speaker 2: all the time and it makes me mad, adding an

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Speaker 2: ass call me bears, bear buyers, all that bear fire.

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Speaker 2: I'm proud of it. I'm not gonna get buyer any

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