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Slash podcast one 12 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: Handed Catching a Touchdown, Here's Craig Griolu all CALABC and 13 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: nine year NFL veteran Rob Frederickson. 14 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 3: So today's show is brought to you by the number three, 15 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 3: as in there are three reported finalists for the Arizona 16 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 3: Cardinals head coaching position according to NFL Insiders, and then 17 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 3: as in three openings left of what was a ten 18 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 3: opening head coaching carousel in twenty twenty five, because before 19 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 3: we came on the air, the Bills filled their position, 20 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 3: promoting offensive coordinator Joe Brady to head coach and now 21 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 3: that leaves just three teams, Cardinals, Browns and Raiders. 22 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 4: It's like a big waiting room here. You know, this 23 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 4: might be a radio studio, but you know, gold School. 24 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 4: Grab a sports illustrated magazine over there, Rob, you know, 25 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 4: I'll just be over magazine. What is that, Paul, I'll 26 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 4: go over here and I'll and you know, it's like 27 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 4: the DMV. You know, take a number, grab a seat. 28 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 4: We'll get to you when we get to you. And 29 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 4: at this point, that's what we're waiting to hear. All right, 30 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 4: who is going to emerge? The number is three. I 31 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 4: thought this was going to be a Buddha Bakers show 32 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 4: there for a minute talking about the Pro Bowl, but no, 33 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 4: the number is get to that. Okay, all right, so 34 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 4: here we go. Look, I think I think, you know, 35 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 4: finger to the wind. We're all sensing, maybe anticipating, not 36 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 4: sure expecting, but wouldn't be surprised if it's in the 37 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 4: next forty eight to seventy two. 38 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 5: Hours, sooner rather than later. 39 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 3: With Super Bowl week approaching, and of course how that 40 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 3: dominates the coverage. And then you got to start thinking 41 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 3: about your coaching. 42 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 5: Staff as well. Who are you getting. 43 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 3: To come in as your offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator, assistance, 44 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 3: are you retaining any of the previous staff? Again, you 45 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 3: want to make sure you get it right, Rob, But 46 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 3: there's also the time element because oh, by the way, 47 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 3: the combine is in four weeks and then free agency 48 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 3: is within six weeks. 49 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 6: Well, yeah, and the most important date I think for 50 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 6: talking about assembling your staff, and you do want to 51 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 6: name your head coach as soon as possible because next 52 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 6: week is a Senior Bowl week and in Mobile, Alabama, 53 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 6: that becomes the indeed for NFL assistant coaches, that really 54 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 6: is is the place where it's a networking event and 55 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 6: it basically becomes a recruiting fair and that's where a 56 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 6: lot of coaching staffs are assembled. And to have your 57 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 6: head coach already in place, that then allows you to 58 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 6: go down there and really finalize and assemble your staff. 59 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 3: Finalizing. The three candidates according to reports, and this is 60 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 3: based off either are Ian Rappaports, Adam Schefter, Diana Ricini. 61 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:34,519 Speaker 3: Three candidates have had second interviews Jaguars defensive coordinator Anthony Campinelli, 62 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 3: Dolphins defensive coordinator Anthony Weaver, and Rams offensive coordinator Micha Lafleur. 63 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 3: The letter of whom, according to Albert Breer, had dinner 64 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 3: with the Cardinals Monday nights and as we speak here 65 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 3: on Tuesday, Paul reportedly having a second interview, first in 66 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 3: person interview. 67 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 5: With the Arizona Cardinals. 68 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 4: All right, so what does that mean? Could there be 69 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 4: an agreement? Could they reach agreement sometime in the very 70 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 4: near future, don't know. We do know there is interest, 71 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 4: presumably if he's the first guy they went to once 72 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 4: he was eliminated, right and pooling the Rams eliminated, So 73 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 4: all of a sudden, Michael Floor is available and eligible 74 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 4: to come in person, and then the first stop he 75 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 4: makes is to the Arizona Cardinals. You know, I think 76 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 4: that's an indication of something what I'm not exactly sure. 77 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 7: We do know this. 78 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 4: He has really inside knowledge of the NFC West. He 79 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 4: worked a long time for Kyle Shanahan. He's worked a 80 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 4: long time for Sean McVay, and so if you're looking 81 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 4: to compete in this division, and we can argue what's 82 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 4: most important for a new head coach, but getting competitive 83 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 4: in the division would be right up there. Guess what, 84 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 4: he has institutional knowledge of what goes on in the 85 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 4: NFC West. 86 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 3: Before we hear from you, Rob, How about we hear 87 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 3: from another former Cardinal Cardinals radio analyst, Aq Shipley this 88 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 3: week on Bickley and Marada on what he is looking 89 00:04:57,960 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 3: for and a new head coach. 90 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 8: I have a guy that can get you to follow 91 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 8: in his message, to get you to buy into what 92 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 8: he's selling. I think that's the biggest thing. Get you 93 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 8: to have fifty three guys plus However, many practice squad 94 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 8: guys drop their ego at the door and all come 95 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 8: together for one mission. I think that's the biggest thing 96 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 8: in team sports. But if you can have a guy 97 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 8: that gets you to buy into the message, buy into 98 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 8: the team, drop your ego and then have two good 99 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 8: play callers, I think that's the biggest thing. I think 100 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 8: how you delegate responsibility and how you lead the man 101 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 8: or the two most important things. 102 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 3: We hear the phrase Rob leader of men. And yes, 103 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 3: Lafleur is thirty eight. He turns thirty nine next month, 104 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 3: but once upon a time, Sean McVay, I believe was 105 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 3: thirty five or thirty six. So it's not the age. 106 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 3: It's more about the experience. And then how do you 107 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 3: command a room? Can you, in the words of Aq, 108 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 3: can you get a collection of individuals. We're making probably 109 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 3: a lot more money than you are with either it's 110 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 3: a head coach, coordinator, or assistant. But to follow and 111 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 3: buy into what you're teaching. 112 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, My hot take is, I don't think that's the 113 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 6: most important qualification for a head coach. I really don't. 114 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 6: You know, these the Arizona Cardinals last year, last couple 115 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 6: of years, they've been fully bought in. I thought they 116 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 6: were really bought into what Jonathan Gannon was selling his culture. 117 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 6: So I don't think that's an issue with this roster 118 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 6: with this team. I think more importantly is the staff 119 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 6: that you surround yourselves with as a head coach, your 120 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 6: coordinators and your position coaches. Those are the position Those 121 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 6: are the coaches that are going to spend ninety five 122 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 6: percent of the time with the players in meetings, you know, 123 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 6: out on the practice field. The position coaches and the 124 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 6: coordinators are going to be vital. And I think, you know, 125 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 6: looking back, I think that's where Jonathan Gannon that regime 126 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 6: kind of fell short. They didn't have the experience at 127 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 6: the position coaches and coordinator positions that is sorely needed, 128 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 6: and that to me is the most important aspect of 129 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 6: hiring a new head coach. 130 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 4: So it goes beyond just hiring the head coach. It's 131 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 4: hiring the head coach and the staff. Because what did 132 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 4: Michael Bidwill? What did Manias Aboords cite more than once 133 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 4: in the press conference after the close of the regular season? 134 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 4: Player development? That was cited more than once. You know 135 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 4: there are a lot of draft picks, twenty eight draft 136 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 4: picks the last three years. You know how much more 137 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 4: talent is there to maximize? Who's going to do that? 138 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 4: Who can best optimize the players who have been brought in? 139 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 4: And especially to your point, Craig, if you're going to delegate, well, 140 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 4: guess what, you better have a talented coaching staff around you. 141 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 4: Bruce Arians was the master of delegating, right down to 142 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 4: letting Carson Palmer run the Friday practice on the offensive side. 143 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 4: But you better have capable assistance on each side of 144 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 4: the ball. Who can game plan, who can develop, who 145 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 4: can teach? You can get the most out of these 146 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 4: young guys, A lot of young players, a lot of 147 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 4: high draft picks still with a lot under the hood, 148 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 4: from a bjo Jelaari to a Darius Robinson, Max Melton, 149 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 4: we could sit here and do a whole show on that. So, 150 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 4: all right, who is if you're bringing an offensive guy, 151 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 4: who's their defensive coordinator? And then who else do you 152 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 4: have in mind as some of the key position spots. 153 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 4: How many of the coaches right now do you want 154 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 4: to retain? Is that a good fit? These are all 155 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 4: things I'm guessing that they're hashing out as we speak. 156 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 3: When you look across the league at what other teams 157 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 3: are doing. Robert Salas in Tennessee, according to reports, Brian 158 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 3: Daball is going to be his offensive coordinator unless he 159 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:39,599 Speaker 3: gets the Raiders job in Detroit Drew Petsing offensive coordinator. 160 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 3: Then new surfaces that former head coach Mike Kafka is 161 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 3: brought along as a senior consultant or a senior advisor. 162 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 3: To your point, Rob, yeah, it was a lot of 163 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 3: first first time head coach, first time offensive coordinator, first 164 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 3: time defensive quarter, lot of first time assistants on JG's 165 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,719 Speaker 3: staff outside of what a Jeff Rogers. 166 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 5: Ben Steele. 167 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 3: So if you're looking for that guy, that right hand man, 168 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 3: if you will, or someone to lean on Cliff Kingsbury 169 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 3: advanced Joseph once upon a time, is that necessary. I 170 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 3: don't know, but if you don't have it, then who 171 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 3: are you talking to when things go like they did 172 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 3: last season for the Cardinals. 173 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, you always want to have somebody that's been there 174 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 6: and done that on staff. You want to have somebody 175 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 6: that has the experience and that's that's been through certain 176 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 6: situations that pop up that you, you know, you don't 177 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 6: really anticipate, and so to have some experience, to have 178 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 6: a coaching staff and and you know, people that you 179 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 6: can rely on, uh to kind of navigate you or 180 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 6: help navigate you through some of those situations is vital. 181 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 5: You know. 182 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 6: And you talk about Mike Lafleur and his potential, he's 183 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 6: in here to interview you know. Essentially, what you're buying, 184 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 6: I think is Arizona Cardinals. What you're buying when you 185 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 6: when you look at a coach like that is you're 186 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 6: you're buying access to Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVay and 187 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 6: their intellectual property. You're basically saying, I want all that 188 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 6: you have, all the information and knowledge that you have 189 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 6: based off of Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVay, to bring 190 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 6: it in here and to implement it here. But you 191 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 6: also need those coaches, the assistant coaches, and the coordinators 192 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 6: to help implement it. 193 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 4: Heck, it even happens between Shanahan and McVeigh. At once 194 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 4: upon a time, you had Mike Lafleur, who was the 195 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 4: right hand man for Kyle Shanahan in Atlanta and elsewhere Cleveland, 196 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 4: and they were together a long time, and then Sean 197 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 4: McVay hired Mike Lafloor away. And there's a sound bite 198 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 4: there's a quote from Kyle Shanahan lamenting the fact that 199 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 4: everything he had taught Mike lafloor is now to their 200 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 4: division rival, the La Rams and his property of Sean McVay. 201 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 4: That's the way this works. When Robert Sala left and 202 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,319 Speaker 4: went to become the New York Jets head coach, who 203 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 4: did you make his offensive coordinator? Well, he brought Mike 204 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 4: Laflour with him. You look back and what they were 205 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 4: able to do with the Jets and what the Jets 206 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 4: have become, what the Jets were before Robert Sell and 207 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 4: Mike Lafleur, and what they've become since the two of 208 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 4: them left. Actually, the job they did with the Jets 209 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 4: looks a lot better in hindsight. 210 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 3: At this point, and Lafleur called plays for the Jets, 211 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 3: might not have called plays for the Rams, but he's 212 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 3: in those meeting rooms, he's having those discussions and developing 213 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 3: those plays, those schemes, and then it's Sean McVay calling 214 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 3: the plays and maybe getting a lot of the credit 215 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 3: deservedly so. But to your point, Rob, I like that 216 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 3: institutional knowledge and you're bringing it in house, whether that's again, 217 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 3: whether that's Lafloor or a Clint Kubiak, someone within the 218 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 3: division that this Cardinals team has struggled to win within 219 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 3: the division. So can you help yourself by also kind 220 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 3: of maybe hurting knocking down a peg or two what 221 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 3: the others within the division? 222 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 9: Two? 223 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 6: Yeah, Look, this is the hardest division in football, and 224 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 6: to get to the top of it is essentially like 225 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 6: climbing the north face of Mount Everest right now. And 226 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 6: so anything you can do to help yourself out as 227 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 6: Arizona Cardinals by bringing in a coach from the division 228 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 6: and also at the same time hurt that divisional opponent, 229 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 6: that's a win win. 230 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 4: I mean, think about it. Mike Lafleur comes in, we 231 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 4: presume he would call plays. We don't know that but 232 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 4: for example, a lot, I don't know, I'll pull it 233 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 4: out of thin air, but he's on the list. Matt 234 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 4: Naggy is available. If it's musical chairs and all the 235 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 4: head coaches grab a seat and Matt Naggy is left standing, 236 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 4: and he's already parted ways with the Chiefs who hired 237 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 4: Eric b enemy back. Could have Matt Naggi come in 238 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 4: as a really high ranking senior offensive assistant. Maybe calls plays, 239 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 4: maybe he doesn't, but he's a former coach of the 240 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 4: Year and head coach of. 241 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 3: The Bears or Raheem Morris defensive coordinator. Sure a former 242 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 3: head coach that has the experience that a young head 243 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 3: coach could lean on again, hopefully sooner rather than later. 244 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 3: As we mentioned, there are three openings left Cardinals, Browns, 245 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 3: and Raiders after the Bills promoted Joe Brady to head 246 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 3: coach from offensive coordinator. Speaking of the offense, we'll get 247 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 3: into Paul alluded to it already the Pro Bowl and 248 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 3: what to expect next week here on the Arizona Cardinals 249 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 3: radio network. 250 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:23,599 Speaker 5: Looks right, Rose, right, pawn on the goal line. Touchdown, 251 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 5: Trey McBride. 252 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 2: When you need a touchdown, go to your best player 253 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 2: Tray McBride. Huge play Lawrence back to pass, Hey throws 254 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 2: another interception, a diving pick made by food A Baker 255 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 2: on the near side. 256 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 5: Unbelievable play by Buddha. 257 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 2: Baker looks left, throws left, put mccride at the five. 258 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 2: He's hitting the one, but he crowns is off a 259 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 2: defender hitting the ends up for the cardinal touchdown. That 260 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 2: drive was Dray McBride. 261 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 5: Again, he's been. 262 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 8: An absolute monster. 263 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 5: Arizona shows Blitz. 264 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 6: Here they come. 265 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 5: Lawrence in trouble. 266 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 2: Paddy sack back at the thirty four yard line by 267 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 2: Fooda Baker, looks right, rows right in the ends, I'll 268 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 2: cut for a touch down by Trey McBride. Heck of 269 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 2: a play by the all world tight end Tray McBride. 270 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 3: Second straight year. Trey McBride selected to the Pro Bowl 271 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 3: for Buddha Baker, his seventh straight selection eighth overall. As 272 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 3: we say, welcome back. It is the Cardinals, Red Sea 273 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 3: report Greig Rea Lupaul Calvic and Rob Frederickson and yes, 274 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 3: the Pro Bowl next week. In fact, next Tuesday, February third, 275 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 3: as part of Super Bowl sixty. Everything is now in 276 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 3: San Francisco or the Bay Area collectively everyone in one spot, 277 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 3: so you'll have all the fun activities. The actual flag 278 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 3: football game is Tuesday nights. And this is where I 279 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 3: turn it over to you, Paul, because well, one Buddha Baker. 280 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 3: There has been a lot of talk on whether or 281 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 3: not he deserved a Pro. 282 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 5: Bowl selection this season. 283 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 3: His numbers overall not as gaudy as they have in 284 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 3: years past. Though you bring up a give good point 285 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 3: as far as why Buddha might not have had the 286 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 3: interception or force fumbles or tackles for loss like he's had. 287 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 4: In previous seasons, Well, it wasn't as necessary. A year ago, 288 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 4: twenty twenty four season, the Cardinals were under manned in 289 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 4: the trenches along the defensive line. They were banged up 290 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 4: as well, and they basically had to move him into 291 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 4: the box. They had to move him really close to 292 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 4: the football, and they just said, look, Buddha, too often 293 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 4: ball carriers are getting to the second level and so 294 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 4: you're gonna. 295 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 5: Have to seek and destroy. 296 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 7: We need your one hundred and sixty four tackles, which 297 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 7: was just absurd when you go back and look at 298 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 7: the top ten tacklers of twenty twenty four, as nine 299 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 7: middle linebackers and a safety by the name of Buddha Baker. 300 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 4: This year was different. He put so much money, you know, 301 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 4: and resources into that defensive front Mac Wilson Senior. At 302 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 4: least the first half of the season, first two thirds 303 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 4: of the season he was more your seeking, destroy in 304 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 4: the middle of the box kind of guy. And then 305 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 4: Buddha was able to play more of a traditional conventional 306 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 4: safety position. Still had over underd tackles, which at any 307 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 4: other safety any other year is a career year. And 308 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 4: so all that being said, you know, Buddha Baker still 309 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 4: an X factor in some ways, but not nearly as 310 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 4: close to the football and hence not nearly as many tackles, 311 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 4: you know, right there in between the tackles as you 312 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 4: had seen the year prior. 313 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 3: One hundred and twenty tackles for Boodha this past season. 314 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 3: But to Paul's point, Rob, you're looking at offensive coordinators, 315 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 3: opposing quarterbacks, they break the huddle, Okay, where's number three? 316 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 3: And all of a sudden, okay, maybe you're shying away 317 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 3: from that side of the field, so you don't get 318 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 3: as many opportunities. And it was a couple of years 319 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 3: ago in which Boodha lament to the fact that the 320 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 3: ball is just not coming my direction. I can't make 321 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 3: the plays because no one's no one's looking to target me. 322 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 3: And of course your stats drop. And when you're talking 323 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 3: about fantasy football and looking at numbers and what the 324 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 3: fans want to see, well, let's go look at the 325 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 3: stat sheet. Well, Buddha might not be up there, but 326 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 3: players know, coaches certainly know what Budda Baker's capable. 327 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 6: Absolutely, and I think if you ask Buddha Baker, yeah, 328 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 6: he wants to be up near the line of scrimmage. 329 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 6: He wants to be near the action. He wants to 330 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 6: be involved and and more plays and and having an influence. 331 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 6: But you know, you got it's a team game and 332 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 6: you got to do what what you know, the coach, 333 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 6: with the coaching staff and what the what the play 334 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 6: calling is is saying that you have to do so 335 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 6: for Buddha Baker, Yeah, and he's a big name too obviously, right, 336 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 6: So he's going to get a lot of the popular vote, 337 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 6: he's going to get a lot of the fan vote 338 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 6: and support, and he's going to get a lot of 339 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:35,239 Speaker 6: the player support from throughout the throughout the league and 340 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 6: that's kind of I think what this Pro Bowl selection 341 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 6: has has become and in some respects is a popularity 342 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 6: uh contest. Not that Buddha Baker is not worthy. He 343 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 6: obviously is, and and he's a fantastic football player, but 344 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:55,199 Speaker 6: the the selection process is one that may need to 345 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 6: be examined at some point. 346 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 5: And no more game. 347 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 3: It's again a list of activity is including the always 348 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 3: popular dodgeball and then flag football. But you watch that 349 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 3: and it's funny because how competitive those players all of 350 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 3: a sudden become, even though no one's in paths or 351 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 3: anything like that. But if nothing else, it's bragging rights, 352 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 3: either me versus you or NFC versus AFC. 353 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, there's always gonna be bragging rights, right, and then 354 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 6: competition is at the very core of what a football 355 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 6: player is and they want to compete. But you know, 356 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 6: it took away the tackle game and I and I 357 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 6: totally understand that. I get the reasoning behind that. I 358 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 6: still remember that that Sean Taylor highlight, you destroying the punter, 359 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 6: destroying the punters. So yeah, you know you don't want 360 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 6: that anymore, right, you don't want the players to get injured, 361 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 6: But I don't. I just don't even know that they 362 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 6: need an activity, you know, and I get it, it's 363 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 6: for the NFL and the fan experience. But I just 364 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 6: name name the name the Pro Bowlers and be done 365 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 6: with it. 366 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 4: Maybe a cooking contact, you know, something like that. You 367 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 4: have these guys come out there and I don't know, 368 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 4: you know, video games. These guys are in the video games. 369 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 4: You know, declare a Madden Champion, you know something, maybe 370 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 4: ping pong, Michael Wilson could get in there. You know, 371 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 4: you could come up with a whole battery of events. 372 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 4: You know, ballroom dancing made its way into the summer Olympics. 373 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 4: Throw it into the Pro Bowl games. 374 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 3: Why not getting selected though, still means something for the players. 375 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 3: Here's Budda Baker earlier in the season talking about getting 376 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 3: named to his eighth Pro Bowl. 377 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 10: It's a great experience. Definitely a blessing, you know, players 378 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 10: and the coaches and you know voting for me. This 379 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 10: is my eighth one, So it's a blessing. I know 380 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 10: some people don't make one. So just kudos to the 381 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 10: consistency that I try to do each and every year, 382 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 10: week in and week out. Just try to play football 383 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 10: the right way and let everything handle itself. And by 384 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 10: the end of the year, when I get the call 385 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 10: from Michael Bidwell, it's always it's always cool to get that. 386 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 3: All right, here's some trivia for you and feel free 387 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 3: to jump in. But Buddha Baker now one of four 388 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 3: players in France Chi's fishery to be selected to at 389 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 3: least eight Pro Bowls? 390 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 5: Can you name the other three fits? Yeah, that's the 391 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 5: easy one. 392 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 6: I took the easy one. 393 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 4: I have Pat p there's two and then the other one. Hmmm, 394 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 4: let's think about this for a minute. A Larry Wilson. 395 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 4: Do they have it back in the day? Yeah, okay, 396 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 4: well you know he wore that number eight on his jersey. So, 397 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 4: by the way, is that a humble brag? Is that 398 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 4: what the kids call humble brag? When Budda Baker cites 399 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 4: his eight Pro Bowls, When he works that into his answer, 400 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 4: that's a that's a good, nice little reminder like that. 401 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 4: It is an expectation by him though, right, He's like, Okay, 402 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 4: this is how I go. I have one hundred plus 403 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 4: tackles and I go to a Pro Bowl. I mean, 404 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 4: it's his expectation. But that's what he's put out there 405 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 4: and I will say this when he is miked up 406 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 4: by the Cardinals video department. When Trey McBride is miked 407 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 4: up by the Cardinals video department, you get a sense 408 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 4: pregame and postgame, during the game, the way other players 409 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 4: react to those guys, the amount of respect they have 410 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 4: to Rob's point about okay, popularity contest whereas the fan vote, 411 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 4: You know, are the coaches really watching the other side 412 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 4: of the ball. You know they're own side of it. 413 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 4: But the players know and they know a Buddha Baker 414 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 4: and a Trey McBride are among the best in the league, 415 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 4: and you hear it like when guys come up to 416 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 4: them and give them props. You go back to some 417 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 4: of those wired and micd up segments. 418 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 6: Do you think players played differently when they're miked up? 419 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 7: Play differently? 420 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 4: Maybe a little bit, maybe a little bit, But I 421 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 4: would say sometimes their personalities are definitely different. 422 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 6: I was gonna say if they had like a you know, 423 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 6: an increase in energy, and maybe we should just mic 424 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 6: up everybody and not have them on. 425 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 3: So Trey McBride, Buda Baker will be in San Francisco 426 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 3: next week, who will not be in San Francisco or 427 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 3: at least not a part of the Pro Bowl festivities, 428 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 3: and that would be Cardinals outside linebacker Josh Sweat, who 429 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 3: made it known on December twenty fourth that he was 430 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 3: none too pleased not being named a Pro Bowl starter. 431 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 9: They had my best season from the start of the 432 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 9: voting to the end of the voting. You know, I 433 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 9: was top five in sacks, second in the NFC, number 434 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 9: one in forced fumbles. You know what I mean. It's like, 435 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,479 Speaker 9: I don't know what else I could have done at 436 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 9: that point, you know what I mean. It's just it's 437 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 9: I don't know what else I could have done. Now. 438 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 9: Previous years, maybe you could have said he didn't have 439 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 9: the popularity, maybe he didn't get the fan vote. This year, 440 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 9: I was second in fan voting for NFC. What else 441 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 9: did they want me to do? 442 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 3: Here are sweats numbers. Twelve sacks, seventeen quarterback hits, thirteen 443 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 3: tackles for lost, four forced fumbles, And you brought up 444 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 3: earlier rob as far as the popularity contest, Okay, did 445 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 3: it matter that the Cardinals weren't winning well? Brian Burns 446 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 3: of the Giants named to the Pro Bowl. Now there 447 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 3: are two Rams selected as well, Jared Versu and Byron 448 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 3: Young if they had made it to the Super Bowl, 449 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 3: those two would have been removed from the Pro Bowl 450 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 3: and Josh what would have been as the alternate in 451 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 3: which he was named. But again it comes down to 452 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 3: not so much the game itself, but the recognition of 453 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 3: what you did during the season matters to these players. 454 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, and despite the selection process, this matters to the players. 455 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 6: It matters obviously to Josh Sweat. This is something you 456 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 6: put on your resume, This is something that stays with 457 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 6: you for the rest of your life. You know that 458 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 6: I was a Pro Bowl player, and so it does matter. Yeah, 459 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 6: it's a team sport and you obviously want to win 460 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 6: football games and win the Super Bowl, but individual accomplishment 461 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 6: also is very important to these guys. It matters because 462 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 6: it especially when your peers are the ones that are 463 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 6: recognizing you. So you know, I can understand, Josh, what's frustration. 464 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 5: Yep. 465 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 4: Every time you're introduced after your playing day, say a 466 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 4: two time Pro Bowl or three time Pro Bowl or 467 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 4: absolutely it's part of your introductions of the DNA of 468 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 4: your career. You know, Jared vers and Byron Young from 469 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 4: the Rams, you know, I think in hindsight, if the 470 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 4: Rams have had maybe some other position players who had 471 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 4: made the Pro Bowl. I think there was a maybe 472 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 4: a need or an urgency to put more players from 473 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 4: the Rams because at that point they were going to 474 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 4: be the number one seed in the NFC. And so 475 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 4: they're thinking, all right, you know what, other teams have 476 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,360 Speaker 4: six and seven, got to get more for the Rams 477 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 4: and they put their parent edge guys when instead, honestly, 478 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 4: Josh Sweat had a heck of a case. 479 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 3: So made mentioned that the Pro Bowl and the All 480 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 3: Pro two individual honors that define who you are as 481 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 3: a player in your career, and left out this season. 482 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 3: When we come back here on the Cardinals Red See 483 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 3: Report Championship Sunday, we'll get into that next here on 484 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 3: the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. 485 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 11: Ten seconds to go if they're thirty down by four, 486 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 11: shotgun snapped to Stafford sets in the pocket, plenty of time, 487 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 11: winds up close to the near sidelight clock, fifty yard 488 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 11: lighted out of bounds, the coua the clocket won or 489 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 11: to cheat the clock going it's. 490 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 5: Over, it's over, Seattle is won. The officials are still 491 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 5: on the field to mccua get out of bounds, rubbers 492 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 5: down in bounds. 493 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 12: The game is now over. 494 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: Oh love. 495 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 11: Seahawks are going to Super Bowl sixty. It's the first 496 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 11: trip to the Super Bowl in eleven years. It's a 497 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 11: rematch with the New England Patriots in Super Bowl sixty 498 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 11: in Santa Clara. 499 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 3: For the eighth time since twenty twelve, an NFC West 500 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 3: team will be represented in the Super Bowl. Of course, 501 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 3: that was an automatic even before the NFC Championship game 502 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 3: because the Seahawks beat the Rams thirty one to twenty seven. 503 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 3: Kevin Harlan on Westwood One with the play by play 504 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 3: as we look back at Sunday's game, in which it 505 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 3: was very eventful, the fourth Super Bowl appearance for the Seahawks, 506 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 3: who have now won nine in a row going back 507 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 3: to the regular season and perhaps rob the biggest question 508 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 3: answered Sam Darnald I think answered a lot of questions 509 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 3: with his performance three hundred and forty six passing yards, 510 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 3: three touchdowns, no interceptions. Here's a fun fact, and the 511 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 3: two regular season meetings against the Rams, Donald had two 512 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 3: touchdowns six interceptions, so he protected the football and then 513 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 3: sending Seattle back to the Super Bowl for the first 514 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 3: time since twenty fourteen. 515 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, and I think it was the best game he's 516 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 6: played all season long, and Minnesota Vikings are probably regretting 517 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 6: letting him walk out. Sam Darnald to me, yeah, you know, 518 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 6: mentioned he played the best game of the season and 519 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 6: he saved it. It was a great back and forth 520 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 6: game though, between them and the Seahawks. I thought Stafford 521 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 6: looked good as well. Pooka Nakua was just amazing, and 522 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 6: Jackson Smith and Jigba for for Seattle. Again, these these 523 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 6: are two of the best, very best receivers in this league. 524 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 6: And I couldn't help but thinking. I'm I'm sitting there 525 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 6: watching it, and I'm I'm thinking about, you know, potential 526 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 6: of maybe Mike Lafleur coming to the Arizona Cardinals, and 527 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 6: I'm thinking, well, you know, Pooka Nakua and look what 528 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 6: he's put up there in this offense. You know, what 529 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 6: is that gonna foretell for a guy like Michael Wilson 530 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 6: with the Arizona Cardinals. I don't know. That was just 531 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 6: in the back of my mind while I was watching 532 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 6: that great game. 533 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 4: I see a lot of pookin a coo and Michael Wilson. 534 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 4: I really do, and vice versa. So I'm with you 535 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 4: on that. 536 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 5: Now, JSN. 537 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 4: How how the Seattle Seahawks got JSN in space against 538 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 4: box safeties like Quinton Lake, Like that was happening repeatedly 539 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 4: in that game. I'm like, where is the game plan? 540 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 4: Wouldn't you double Jackson Smith and Jigma and then take 541 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 4: your chances with everyone else? I know Sam Donald after 542 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 4: that muff punt he hit Jake Bobo for like only 543 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 4: his fifth catch all year, and that was keeping there 544 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 4: you go, So there you go? And I mean, but 545 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 4: he was decisive. He's finding other receivers not named JSN. 546 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 4: To Rob's point, yeah, Donald definitely looked the part. Think 547 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 4: about badd he looked in the playoff loss to the 548 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 4: Rams at State Farm Stadium after this SOCW Wildfires moved 549 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 4: the game out here, think about bad when he got 550 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 4: sacked nine times? How horrendous he looked in that game. 551 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 4: And I'm guessing that went a long way to the 552 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 4: Vikings partying ways was Sam Donald, But he seemingly just 553 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 4: got better. And for his fifth team in his career, 554 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 4: for them to unlock the former number three pick overall 555 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 4: and for him to look that good, and for Seattle 556 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 4: looked that buttoned up. And then Mike McDonald after the game, 557 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 4: when asked by Michael Strahan, he had the quote of 558 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 4: the game. I thought, he said, you know what about 559 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 4: the fact no one picked you? Everyone picked the forty 560 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 4: nine ers in the Rams and you went through the 561 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 4: niners in the Rams in the Innerstry Championship And mc 562 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 4: donald sort of stared at him said, we did not care. 563 00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:58,959 Speaker 5: It was about us. 564 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 4: But I'm like that was that not illustrative of the 565 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 4: culture that he has built on that team and the 566 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 4: sort of buy in he got from Seattle. John Schneider, 567 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 4: the GM was just beaming because that's a sort of 568 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 4: mentality Seattle played with all year long under their young 569 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 4: head coach. 570 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 3: Year two for Mike McDonald after year one, fired his 571 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 3: offensive coordinator and brought on board Clint Kubiak. We always 572 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 3: talk about this Seahawks defense, but offensively, they were the 573 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 3: number three scoring offense, and we saw thirty plus points 574 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 3: on Sunday. We saw the passing game, a little bit 575 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 3: of a run game early in that contest. Kenneth Walker 576 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 3: didn't do much after the first half, but it was 577 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 3: because of Sam Donald that they got into the Super Bowl, 578 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 3: which I don't know, if you're going quarterback by quarterback, 579 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 3: edge would be to Stafford over Donald. But that's why 580 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 3: I go back and say, I think now only answered 581 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 3: a lot of questions, but certainly the biggest win of 582 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 3: his career. 583 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 6: Oh, it's huge win. And you're right, Stafford may very 584 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 6: well be the MVP of the league. But Donald to 585 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 6: me just had his best game of the season. You 586 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 6: mentioned Kenneth Walker. Yeah, maybe rushing he wasn't as big 587 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 6: a part in that game, but the receiving and the 588 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 6: ability out of the backfield to make those catches and 589 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 6: to get yards after catch that was huge. And Seattle 590 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 6: offensively to your point, you know, they really have performed 591 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 6: all season long. It just gets overshadowed by how great 592 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 6: that defense really is. 593 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 4: Now, look, Seattle earned it, There's no doubt about it. 594 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 4: The Twelves did not twelve didn't deserve it. They simply 595 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 4: didn't deserve it. And don't give me this dynasty stuff either. 596 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 4: That was their first set of home playoff games and 597 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 4: over a decade in Seattle, so I don't hear the 598 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 4: word dynasty attached to the Seahawks. 599 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 5: Pot. 600 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 4: They're talented, and they are well coached, and they are 601 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 4: going to be a force to deal with in the 602 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 4: near future, and the way they are are rolling, and 603 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 4: we talked about it for last month, Craig, the NFC 604 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 4: Championship was going to be all NFC West and the 605 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 4: winner of the NFC Championship was going to win. 606 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 5: The Super Bowl. 607 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 4: And if you tell me the Seahawks go out and 608 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 4: jack stop Patriots team that doesn't have a lot of 609 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 4: offensive talent. To me when you look at them, and 610 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 4: I think they're overachieving on defense, if this game gets 611 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 4: lopsided quick, I would not be surprised. 612 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 3: How are you going to handle next season, Paul then, 613 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 3: because you've already lost the ability to say last place 614 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 3: Seahawks And if for whatever reason they go into the 615 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 3: forty nine ers home and hoist the Lombardi Trophy and 616 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 3: then bring it back to the NFC West and the 617 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 3: Cardinals see them twice next season, again, I didn't want 618 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 3: to see any anybody but the NFC West. 619 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 5: But that's what we're left with in the NFC. 620 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 3: But I'm full blown Patriots over here. 621 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 4: And you know it as someone who was in the 622 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 4: stadium for the Super Bowl here, what you know, how 623 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 4: when was that at twenty nine so it'd have been 624 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 4: eleven years ago or so so for that one where 625 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 4: they failed to give the ball to Marshawn Lynch of 626 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 4: the goal line, and then there's the interception and thing 627 00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 4: a lot of chaos broke out in the stands. 628 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 12: Leave me. 629 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 4: I was in an auxiliary media, which is code for 630 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 4: three rows from the very top of State Farm Stadium, 631 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 4: and there was a lot of chaos between Seahawks and 632 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 4: Patriots fans because when one fan base has every expectation 633 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 4: of winning the Super Bowl and then two seconds later 634 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 4: they're not going to win the Super Bowl, let's just 635 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 4: say the emotions flow over. 636 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 6: Did you get a couple of punches in there, pah, yeah. 637 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 4: Let me tell you my escapability in that moment. I 638 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 4: got out of there so quick. I mean, honestly, I've 639 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 4: ran a four to three forty just getting out of 640 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 4: there into the concourse. 641 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 3: Malcolm Butler with the interception on the gold line. We'll 642 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 3: get into the AFC Championship game here momentarily. But this 643 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 3: Seahawks team, again, what they have been able to do 644 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 3: because I don't know, especially going into this season, Rob 645 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 3: when we talk about when we talked about the Seahawks, 646 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 3: because it was okay year two for Mike McDonald. In 647 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 3: year one, double digit wins, don't make the playoffs unusual, 648 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 3: made a change in offensive coordinator, but it was still okay. 649 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 5: Well, the Rams are the Rams and the forty nine 650 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 5: ers of the forty. 651 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 3: Nine ers because of their two head coach and Kyle 652 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 3: Shanahan always figures out a way no matter who's available. 653 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 3: Almost did again this season until they finally ran out 654 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 3: of steam. But it's impressive what the Seahawks have been 655 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 3: able to do from a far considering where they were 656 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 3: once upon a time. 657 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, you look at the defense of the 658 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 6: Sale Seahawks and that's really, to me kind of their 659 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 6: cornerstone and how they've built this team, just the draft 660 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 6: picks and the people that they've brought in from through 661 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 6: free agency, and what they're able to do defensively really 662 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 6: leads away in terms of how you think about the 663 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 6: Sales Seahawks in this division. And so I always kind 664 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 6: of turn it back to the Cardinals and what does 665 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 6: what does that, you know, foreshadow for the Cardinals. What 666 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 6: kind of coach do they need to bring in here 667 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 6: to combat that to it to have a game plan 668 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 6: against that lethal defense from Seattle, and is it an 669 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 6: offensive mind or is it a defensive minded head coach. 670 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 3: Key stat at least for me from Sunday, the Seahawks 671 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 3: seven to thirteen on third down, the Rams one of eight, 672 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 3: and yeah, you want to be good on third down, 673 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 3: but there were a lot of times in that game 674 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 3: where the Seahawks had third and short or a third 675 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 3: and manageable because they were so successful on first and 676 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 3: second down. Going back to our discussion about, okay, where 677 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,839 Speaker 3: the Cardinals need to be Cardinals gonna better on first 678 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 3: and second down in order to be proficient on third down. 679 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 4: And a quick thought on the Rams because they were 680 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 4: so close and special teams got them again with that 681 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 4: fumbled punt, the muff punt. They own picks number thirteen 682 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 4: and twenty nine, and they don't have a lot of 683 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 4: prominent free agents. If Matthew Stafford comes back, and you 684 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 4: saw Sean mcgay's reaction, it ended the press conference. He 685 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 4: did not like the Matthew Stafford questioned at all. But 686 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,280 Speaker 4: if he comes back and they had maybe a first 687 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 4: round corner, Rams are going to be right there again. 688 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 3: It was perfect weather in Seattle, not so perfect in Denver. 689 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 3: We'll talk about the AFC Championship Game next here on 690 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 3: the Arizona Cardinals Radio network. 691 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,799 Speaker 12: May with his hands under center trumps to his knee 692 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 12: and that's it. The New England Patriots are back in 693 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:12,320 Speaker 12: the Super Bowl. The Patriots win the AFC Championship, feeding 694 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,359 Speaker 12: the dead for Broncos ten to seven, and a new 695 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 12: era of Patriots football is upon us. The Drake by 696 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 12: Mike Frable. Patriots are going to the Super Bowl New 697 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 12: England with a three point win in the snow, and 698 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 12: the Broncos see their season come to an end a 699 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 12: three point loss here at Mile High. Patriots ten, Broncos seven, 700 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,840 Speaker 12: and New England for a record setting. 701 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 5: Twelve time will go to the Super Bowl. 702 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 3: Saw those that were tired of the Kansas City Chiefs 703 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 3: welcome back New England as the Patriots their twelveth Super 704 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 3: Bowl appearance, and they outlast the Broncos ten to seven. 705 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 3: Ryan Radkey Ons won with the final call of the 706 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 3: AFC Championship Game. And as I mentioned in our last segment, yes, 707 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 3: perfect weather in Seattle. It looked good on television in 708 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,839 Speaker 3: the first half until it didn't in the second half, 709 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 3: to the point where I don't know what the technology 710 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 3: is when televisions put the graphics up so you can 711 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 3: see the numbers and the yardage and the hash marks, 712 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden they just said to 713 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,800 Speaker 3: he can't do that anymore because it was too busy, 714 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,360 Speaker 3: because that was interfering with the Patriots white uniforms and 715 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 3: you basically couldn't see anything on the television, especially in 716 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:38,399 Speaker 3: the fourth quarter. 717 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 4: I mean, when you have the announcers citing the Patriots' 718 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 4: uniform caller as a competitive advantage, I mean, at what point. 719 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 4: And I went on this ran last week and I've 720 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,320 Speaker 4: done it in years past. I just I am not 721 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 4: a fan of the extreme cold climate games, never have been. Yes, 722 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 4: lot has to do with having to endure it as 723 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 4: a sideline pencil neck, But to me, when it becomes 724 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 4: as much about survival skills as it does football skills, 725 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 4: I just I really wonder if we're deciding the best 726 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,239 Speaker 4: football team in conditions like that. When Will Watts after 727 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 4: the games, after the game, he blames the snowy field 728 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,359 Speaker 4: and his alignment mistake on the block field goal because 729 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 4: instead of being eight yards deep, he was seven yards 730 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 4: deep because he couldn't tell where he was. 731 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's just not a good product on the field. 732 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 6: It's not when you when you have weather like that, 733 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 6: it slows everybody down to almost a crawl because they 734 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 6: don't want to slip and fall. They want to maintain 735 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,800 Speaker 6: their their grip. There is no grip. You can't you 736 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 6: can't get cleats in that. It's just it's it's a 737 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 6: slow game. It's it's the statistics bear it out. I mean, 738 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 6: they barely ran for any yards or passed for any yards. 739 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 6: It's just not a not a great product, a defensive game, 740 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 6: you know. I think the difference he probably the two 741 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 6: turnovers that Denver had. 742 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 3: Denver held the thirty two total yards in the second 743 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 3: half one hundred and forty nine in the first half. 744 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 3: And then just looking at the final score and historically 745 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 3: seventeen combined points tied for the third fewest and a 746 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 3: conference championship game. The Patriots ten points score tied for 747 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 3: the second fewest by winning team in a conference championship game. 748 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 3: But the Patriots are back in the Super Bowl for 749 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,799 Speaker 3: the first time since twenty eighteen. And yes, Drake may 750 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 3: was the healthy quarterback. 751 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 5: Bo Nicks was not. 752 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 3: He was watching from a luxury suite and watching Jared 753 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 3: Stidham look good at times, but then in the second 754 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 3: half when things unraveled, you didn't have that veteran play 755 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:47,280 Speaker 3: caller to get yourself back into range, not just field 756 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 3: goal range, but try to get a touchdown. And the 757 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 3: one decision that everyone is pointing to is in the 758 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 3: first half when the Broncos had it inside the red zone, 759 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 3: but on fourth and one at the New England fourteen, 760 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 3: deciding to go for it as opposed to kicking a 761 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 3: field goal to try to go up ten nothing. I 762 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,399 Speaker 3: get it, it's a second quarter. And I understand Sean 763 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,279 Speaker 3: Payton with the aggressiveness. He's always been that guy. But 764 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 3: I watched that CBS pregame show and all I heard 765 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 3: was Bill Kauer consistently say take the points, and he 766 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 3: was talking about both teams because weather and then the 767 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 3: defenses of these two teams, points were going. 768 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 5: To be at a premium. 769 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 4: And to your point, pregame, there were a lot of 770 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 4: predictions there was going to be extreme weather in the 771 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 4: second half, so you should have known that it could 772 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 4: have been. It could be a tough slog in that 773 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 4: second half trying to move the football all the more 774 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 4: reason to take the points. It's almost as if in 775 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 4: twenty twenty five, twenty twenty six, that you're not seen 776 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 4: as aggressive, that you're seen as weak, you're not seen 777 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 4: as cutting edge. If you just take the points, if 778 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 4: you kick the fuel goal, it's almost like, what are 779 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 4: you're gonna kick the fuel goal? Okay, boomer right? I 780 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 4: mean it's almost like some sort of year behind the 781 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 4: times and you're not with it. Well, it can still 782 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 4: be really smart football, considering the game conditions and who 783 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 4: you have playing quarterback and the fact you have a 784 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 4: top three defense that can hold the other team, and 785 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 4: they did, as it turns out. So I just think 786 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 4: you're failing your team if you don't have the ability 787 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 4: to go beyond the analytics and the probabilities and try 788 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 4: and factor in, okay, game conditions, who's playing the game, 789 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,760 Speaker 4: and then make the best choice possible. 790 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 6: You know what's interesting is twenty years ago, fourth and 791 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,919 Speaker 6: inches punt team's coming out right. 792 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,800 Speaker 5: I mean, there was no question it was too risky 793 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,320 Speaker 5: then no question about it. 794 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 6: And analytics have completely shifted the mentality in the way 795 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:46,320 Speaker 6: offensive play callers see a game, and it has completely 796 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,720 Speaker 6: changed the dynamic of NFL football. 797 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,880 Speaker 3: Drake May in that game eighty six passing yards, sixty 798 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 3: five rushing yards, and he was basically the Patriots offense 799 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 3: in the second half, had that game clinching seven yard 800 00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 3: run for a first down, plus had a six yard 801 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,840 Speaker 3: rushing touchdown the only touchdown of the game following a 802 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 3: Jared Stidham stripsack fumble, and the Patriots defense, Paul when 803 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 3: you look at the numbers, next Gen stats and what 804 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 3: they did to Jared Stidham. Now, again, this is someone 805 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 3: who not attempted or completed a pass in the regular 806 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 3: season in the past two years, but when under pressure, 807 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,719 Speaker 3: Stidham went one of ten for four yards and two 808 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 3: turnovers and a huge, costly first half turnover that allowed 809 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,760 Speaker 3: the Patriots to tie the game at seven. 810 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,799 Speaker 4: It's just really sound coaching, from the fact that New 811 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 4: England is undefeated this year on the road, to the 812 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 4: fact that the offense averaged just eighteen points per game 813 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 4: in the playoffs, which is a few us by any 814 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 4: playoff team to reach the Super Bowl since nineteen seventy nine. 815 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 4: And that Rams team, Yes it was skewed a little 816 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 4: bit by that snow game in Denver, but just really 817 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 4: sound coaching to me, they still don't have all that 818 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,439 Speaker 4: talented a roster in the New England. Patriots and Craig 819 00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 4: we talked about this the end of last season. They 820 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 4: came in and it was late in the season, week 821 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 4: fifteen or sixteen, and they had rookie Drake May against 822 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 4: the Cardinals at State Farm Stadium. They had Christian Gonzales 823 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 4: and a bunch of guys with first named Jack and 824 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,280 Speaker 4: last named squad. It was one of the least talented 825 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 4: rosters I'd seen it in a long time. Mike Grabel 826 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 4: comes in, they go from four wins to four losses, 827 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,360 Speaker 4: right from four and thirteen to thirteen and four. Just 828 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 4: some excellent coaching. Drake May obviously blossom. Josh McDaniels the experience, 829 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,879 Speaker 4: Mike Rabel and experience head coach, and they never made 830 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:28,480 Speaker 4: the mistakes so would beat themselves. 831 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,120 Speaker 7: Just very sound and because of. 832 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:32,439 Speaker 4: That, Look how far they've gone. 833 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 3: And you look, going back to what you always say 834 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,920 Speaker 3: when you're watching teams in the playoffs, rob and the 835 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 3: Cardinals are not in the postseason, all right, what do 836 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 3: the Cardinals need? 837 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:41,480 Speaker 5: Well, you look at Seattle. 838 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 3: They turned it around in two years under Mike McDonald. 839 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 3: Patriots needed just one year under Mike Brabel. Now the 840 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,319 Speaker 3: difference between those two teams. Seahawks went out and got 841 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 3: Sam Donald. Patriots already had Bonnicks, excuse me, already had 842 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 3: Drake May and House. That's the one missing element the 843 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,759 Speaker 3: Cardinals right now. Yeah, you've got Kyler Murray, you've got 844 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 3: Jacoby Brissett, and you got Keten Slovas under contract. 845 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 5: But who's that guy that is going to lead this team? 846 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 3: Forget the head coach, but who's your quarterback that is 847 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,120 Speaker 3: going to lead this team in twenty twenty six? 848 00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, obviously quarterback position. If you don't have that, you 849 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,280 Speaker 6: don't have anything. And that you have to have a quarterback, 850 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:24,320 Speaker 6: a good quarterback in this league to even be considered 851 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:28,400 Speaker 6: into the postseason. But the other detail, I think that 852 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,160 Speaker 6: when you're talking about coaching staffs and head coaches, that's 853 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 6: vital and you see some of these rapid turnarounds and 854 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:40,600 Speaker 6: ken the Cardinals do it is finding out, okay, identifying 855 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,799 Speaker 6: who are the players that maybe struggled in the last 856 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 6: year or the year before, and how do we maximize 857 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:51,840 Speaker 6: their athletic ability, how do we maximize their assets and 858 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 6: put them in positions to succeed and then we can 859 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 6: identify we talked about a d rob somebody like him. 860 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 6: I mean Marvin Harrison junior here, you know John Gains, 861 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,400 Speaker 6: There's there's you know, Max Melton. There's a ton of 862 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:09,640 Speaker 6: players on this on this Arizona Cordinals roster that maybe 863 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,680 Speaker 6: haven't been utilized to their fullest extent in the past, 864 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,239 Speaker 6: and and can we unlock them and can we put 865 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 6: them in positions to succeed? 866 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 3: And you look at these two head coaches now in 867 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,799 Speaker 3: the Super Bowl. One a first time head coach who 868 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 3: calls plays in Mike McDonald. The other one Mike Rabel, 869 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 3: former head coach, doesn't call plays. He is that CEO 870 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:31,280 Speaker 3: if you will, on the sideline. 871 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,800 Speaker 4: He won three rings as a player. He's trying to 872 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:36,799 Speaker 4: become the first ever to win a Super Bowl as 873 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,920 Speaker 4: a head coach and player for the same team. And 874 00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,520 Speaker 4: obviously had all that experience with Tennessee. So if you're 875 00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,360 Speaker 4: the Bills and you got rid of Sean McDermott and 876 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,720 Speaker 4: you hired reportedly Joe Brady today, are you gonna regret 877 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,320 Speaker 4: getting rid of a Sean McDermott, like maybe the Tennessee 878 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 4: Titans regretted parting ways with Mike Brabel Head. 879 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,440 Speaker 3: Coaching search continues, at least from what we can tell 880 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,759 Speaker 3: here late morning on a Tuesday. But the next time 881 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,440 Speaker 3: we are together in one week here on the Cardinals 882 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 3: Red Sea Report. Has that vacancy been filled? Maybe we'll 883 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,880 Speaker 3: see special thanks behind the scenes. Jim Momanro Cody Fincher, 884 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,200 Speaker 3: Max Brown for Rob Friderison, Paul Calvec. I'm Craig Riolou. 885 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,560 Speaker 3: This is the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. 886 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,840 Speaker 1: You've been listening to. The Cardinals Red Sea Report, presented 887 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:28,480 Speaker 1: by All Copy Products. 888 00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,919 Speaker 2: Boot A Baker with the sack strip the ball caught 889 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,360 Speaker 2: by mcfride. Hey it's a touchdown. 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