1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 1: Well in this episode of News World, o'reley has been 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: killing people for years, from his competition in cable news 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: to President John F. Kennedy and even Jesus o'riley's killing 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: franchise of books fly off the shelves as best sellers. 5 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: And the other thing about Reagan is that he wasn't 6 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: a phony, and most politicians is united phony. Will day 7 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: law Regan? You include two quotes from Jesus on the Cross, 8 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: but not the most famous one. Father, forgive them for 9 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: they know not what they do. Why not we don't 10 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: put in things that we don't think happened, but we 11 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: don't believe he said it on the Cross because nobody 12 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: could have heard it. Let's talk about Abraham Lincoln. Yes, 13 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: best president ever. I wrote the book Killing Lincoln because 14 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: I wanted to show America what true leadership is, because 15 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 1: we need true leadership. And killing Patton in very strange deaths. 16 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. If four star general gets 17 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 1: killed in a road accident, all the documents disappear, all 18 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: the witnesses disappear, and they put him in the ground 19 00:00:53,720 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: with no autopsy. I mean, command is due some recording 20 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: from home, so you may notice a difference in audio quality. 21 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: The bloody Battle of Tippecanoe was only the beginning. It's 22 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: eighteen eleven. President James Madison has ordered the destruction of 23 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: Shawnee warrior chief to comes to his alliance of tribes 24 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: in the Great Lakes region. But while General William Henry 25 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 1: Harrison would win this fight, the armed conflict between Native 26 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: Americans and the newly formed United States would rage on 27 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: for decades. Best Selling author Bill o'rilly ventures through the 28 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:37,279 Speaker 1: fraud history of our country's founding on already occupied lands, 29 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: from General Andrew Jackson's brutal battles with the Greek Nation 30 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: to President James Munrose epic seed assigning sea policy, to 31 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: President Martin van Buren's cruel enforcement of a treaty that 32 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: forced the Cherokee Nation out of their homelands along what 33 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: would be called the Trail of Tears. O'Reilly and Dugard 34 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: take readers behind the legends to reveal never before told 35 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: historical moments in the fascinating creation story of America. I'm 36 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: pleased to welcome my guest, my good friend, Bill O'Reilly, 37 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 1: author of Killing Crazy Horse, The most Merciless Indian Wars 38 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: in America. Bill O'Reilly is a great friend, a mentor, 39 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: somebody who has been a trailblazer in so many different 40 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: areas that it's amazing. He was a high school history 41 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:33,839 Speaker 1: teacher of nineteen seventy to nineteen seventy two. Beyond that, though, 42 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: he's also been involved overseas in doing things that were 43 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: charitable and helping people. And he, of course has been 44 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: an extraordinarily successful cable news personality. Now has fifteen non 45 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:50,119 Speaker 1: fiction books, including nine books in the Killing series, which 46 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: began remarkably successful with Killing Lincoln and Killing Kennedy had 47 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: just been rolling ever since. Now this new book, Killing 48 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: Crazy Horse Build the Most Merciless Indian Wars in America, 49 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: which is just coming out in September eight, is going 50 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: to be fascinating to everybody. And I was delighted that 51 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 1: Bill was willing to come on and talk about his concept, 52 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,839 Speaker 1: his vision, what he's trying to accomplish. So well, first 53 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: of all, thank you for joining us, and congratulations and 54 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: yet another great book. Well, I appreciate it, mister Spiegrits, 55 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: and I used to talk with you, and particularly because 56 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:29,119 Speaker 1: you're a historian yourself. When I write books, I write 57 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: them for the folks, I'm not a pinhead. I'm not 58 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: giving you five hundred pages and you've got to wade 59 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: through it and your eyes get heavy. These are exciting, 60 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: fun books to read, but they're also important, particularly today 61 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: when the radical left is trying to distort our history. 62 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: They're trying to peddle this line that the United States 63 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: is an evil country and always has been, and therefore 64 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: I'm in position to settle these things once and for 65 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: all by writing fact based books about slavery. You mentioned 66 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: Killing Lincoln, about the Indian Wars and what really happened 67 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: in forging our nation, and I think that every American 68 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: has got to arm his or herself with facts to 69 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: refute this horrible assault on our country's history. You have 70 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 1: are very intriguing to me title Killing Crazy Horse the 71 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: most merciless Indian Wars in America. How did you come 72 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 1: to that title? Well, when we were researching the book, 73 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: Martin Dugard is my co author, we were startled by 74 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 1: the level of brutality and intensity in these conflicts. So, yes, 75 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: the Civil War was terrible. Everybody knows that the most 76 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: casualties of any American war the Revolutionary War. Not so 77 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: much because there weren't that many big set battles. But 78 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: in America with the Native Americans and the settlers clashing 79 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: that went on from eighteen twelve to eighteen ninety. That 80 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: war lasted seventy eight years, and Americans don't know the 81 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: scope of it. We've heard of Coachie and Crazy Horse 82 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: and Geronimo and Sitting Bowl and all of these guys, 83 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 1: but we really don't know the context. This was an 84 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: ongoing bloodbath for seventy eight years. And that's why I 85 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: use the word merciless in the subtitle. But why do 86 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: you think it took so long? Because the United States 87 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: was just in its infancy when the people, the colonists, 88 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: then the new United States citizens started to move west 89 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: and intrude on Indian lands, and then they moved south 90 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: into Florida, which was not a state, and the Creek 91 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: Indians where they're going, What the deuce is going on? 92 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 1: Who are the people? Why are there in our hunting grounds? 93 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: Why are they doing this stuff? And the Creeks were 94 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: the first tribe to attack the white man, and they 95 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: slaughtered three hundred white people and there were some slaves 96 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 1: in that mix. At Fort Mimms, Alabama in eighteen thirteen 97 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,359 Speaker 1: that started at all Andrew Jackson was sent down to 98 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: quell the Creek uprising. It was unbelievable what happened there. 99 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 1: And then it went on and on and on and 100 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: on and on as the Whites went across the country 101 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 1: for the land, and they didn't really care who was 102 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 1: there first, and the Indians had no idea how to 103 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 1: counter this. The smarter of them, the more intelligent of them, 104 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:50,119 Speaker 1: like coachies, he knew they weren't going to win against 105 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: this powerful force coming at them. But at the same time, 106 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: what were they going to tell their people that we 107 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 1: got to move again, we don't know where are buffalo going? 108 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: And being shot by guys on trains. It was a 109 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: progression that had no ending because there were so many 110 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: Indian tribes decentralized, they weren't organized, and Washington's policies changed 111 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: every year. Some years they were fair to the Indians 112 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: and some years they weren't. But when you look back 113 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: on do you think, at a practical level a different 114 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: approach that could have worked, or do you think we 115 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: were just in a clash between two civilizations and I 116 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: was going to go on until one of the loss 117 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: well as a former Speaker of the House, you know 118 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: how government works better than anybody on this planet. In 119 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: my opinion, Nut Gingridge knows how the US government works 120 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: better than anyone. And I've always said that, and I've 121 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: always had you on in that capacity when I was 122 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: interviewing you. The problem was that there was no understanding 123 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: between the white European settlers and the Indian nations. They 124 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: did not understand stand each other and made little attempt to. 125 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: So it wasn't like we understood that the King in 126 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: England and we knew what he was doing to try 127 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: to exploit us by taxing us but not giving us representation. 128 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: That wasn't what was going on because there was no 129 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: central leadership in the Indian nations. Too. Comes A tried, 130 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: he got killed, and then they fear that the Indians 131 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: instilled in the white man because they were brutal, not 132 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: all of them, not all of them, but many the 133 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: Comanches and the Apaches. Oh, if you got captured in 134 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: mister speaker, you would rather die. In fact, US soldiers 135 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: always kept a bullet in the chamber even when they 136 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: ran out of ammunition, so they could kill themselves instead 137 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 1: of being captured. That's how terrifying. The Indians were so 138 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: in the midst of all of this, there was no understanding, 139 00:08:56,520 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: There was no attempt to be conciliatory. It was just 140 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: who has more power, We're taken over. In that context, 141 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: were you surprised as you got into this not only 142 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: that it was brutal on both sides, but that from 143 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: the Indian standpoint, they really didn't have many alternatives. They're 144 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: being primarily squeezed and forced westward where they collided with 145 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,719 Speaker 1: other Indian tribes who also believed they had a right 146 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: to be there. See also a lot of sort of 147 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: Indian on Indian combat in addition to Indians attacking the 148 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: European settlers that went on from the dawn of North 149 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: American settlement, when the Indians came from Asia and across 150 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: the Baring Sea into Alaska and then migrated down south. 151 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: Indians always fought Indians always. I have a house in montauk, 152 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: a long island where I'm talking to you right now, 153 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: and the Montaukeet Indians were the first settlers here. Well 154 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: across along island south in Connecticut there were the Mohegans, 155 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: and the Mohegans were very warlike the Montaucats weren't. They 156 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: were farmers, but they would come across and raid and 157 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: that went on forever. So you're correct in the sentence 158 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: that there was no security. The Native Americans had no 159 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: security at all, that at any time they could be 160 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: attacked by the white man or by other Indian tribes. 161 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: In fact, Custer had Indian scouts when he foolishly went 162 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 1: into Crazy Horse's realm. He had tribes that hated the 163 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: Sioux working with him. So it was a complicated thing. 164 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: But the over arch is this that Native Americans for 165 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 1: centuries had lived a lifestyle. Some of them were more 166 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 1: grand some of them more hunters, all right, And they 167 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: didn't have a permanent They didn't settle cities. When it 168 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: was cities. When it was cold, they went south. When 169 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: it was hot, they went north, and they hunted and 170 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: they provided. But they were basically nomadic. And then when 171 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: they had this huge influx of especially after the railroad. 172 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 1: Abraham Lincoln was the guy that nailed the Transcontinental Railroad. 173 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: Once the railroad started and all of these thousands of 174 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: people started to come off to Indian lands and do 175 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 1: whatever they wanted to do, you can imagine if you 176 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: were a Native American chief, and your people are looking 177 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: at you, going, what are you going to do? You 178 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: shouldn't let this happen, And that was what ignited most 179 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: of these conflicts. So she put him in the title 180 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: what is your take on Crazy Horse? Very very interesting man. 181 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: He was not the chief. Sitting Bull was the chief 182 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 1: of the Sioux Nation. Sitting Bull never fought. Did you 183 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: know that, mister speaker, No, I did not. Nobody does. 184 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: Sitting Bull never fought in a battle. He was is 185 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: the big cahuna, and he was the guy who would 186 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: direct the tribes. Crazy Horse was the Minister of war. 187 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: They actually used that title. And he was a brilliant tactician. 188 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: And we take you through a lot of his campaigns 189 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: before the ultimate Little Big Horn fight, and Crazy Horse 190 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: just outsmarted the US army so much so that US 191 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: Grant a general himself while he was president, said who 192 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: is this guy? We're sending out garrison after garrison after 193 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 1: garrison to rein him in, and he's beating the hell 194 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: out of us every time we confront him. And so 195 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: nobody knows that, and nobody knows how brilliant a military 196 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: mind Crazy Horse was. And his relationship with Sitting both 197 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: and then there was Coachies, who was another brilliant man. 198 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: Did you know that nobody knows where he's buried? He 199 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 1: was never defeated in Arizona. Coach he's the chief of 200 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: the Apache nation. They never caught him, and he died, 201 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: and it was like an ancient pharaoh. They buried him 202 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: somewhere in the Superstition Mountains, and to this day nobody 203 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: knows where his brave is. These are the kinds of 204 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: stories I tell him, killing crazy Horse, and people are going, really, 205 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: why I didn't know that nobody knows it, because it's 206 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: really never been presented to the American people how our 207 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: country was forged. Hi, this is news Total to invite 208 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: you to sign up for a yearly subscription to my 209 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: Inner Circle membership club. 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Sign up a one or 226 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: two year membership today a newts inner Circle dot com. 227 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: That's news Inner Circle dot com. When you think about 228 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: this particular book, which is I think in some ways 229 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: one of the most interesting. You've written a lot of 230 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: interesting books, but this one we'll teach more people, more 231 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: new things than most of them, because you're really in 232 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: a fertile area here where people just don't know very much. 233 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: We you hope readers get out of this when they 234 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: close the final page. What's your vision of real success 235 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: with your readers. Well, that's a very good question. By 236 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: the way, my publisher has been with me since Killing Lincoln. 237 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: The first book says this is the best book of 238 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: the Killing series. Now I can't make that determination. They're 239 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: all like kids to me, well these books, but I 240 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: can tell you that I am really really angry about 241 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: how our nation is being portrayed to the world by 242 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: the radical left in this country. I am just furious 243 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: about it because, yes, the US government did some very 244 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: bad things to Native Americans, that is true, but it 245 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: isn't all black and white. Some of it was inevitable. 246 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: Every nation in this world, every single nation in the 247 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: world on the planet has had exploitation of indigenous people. 248 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: If you go to Australia you have the Aborigines, you 249 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: go to New Zealand, the Maories, on and on and on. Everyone. 250 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: It's always about power, it's always about expansion. So I 251 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: want people to know after they finished Crazy Horse, that 252 00:16:55,520 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: their country was forged in a way that was very difficult. 253 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 1: It was very hard, just like a revolution, just like 254 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: the abolishment of slavery. Nothing comes easy, and there are 255 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: mistakes that are made. But the nobility of the characters 256 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: on both sides, primarily, I would say the Native Americans, 257 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 1: I show their nobility that they were people who were 258 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 1: loyal to their wives and children and wanted to protect them, 259 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 1: and on the other side, people wanted to have better lives. 260 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: We talked about the Oklahoma Sooners. Okay, who were these people? 261 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 1: Why were they out there trying to get the Indian lands. 262 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 1: It's a human story and that's what our nation is. 263 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 1: Our nation is a human story. And in any human story, 264 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 1: there are good things and bad things. And I think 265 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 1: that we have written a fair book, a book that 266 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: if you read it, you'll know more about your country 267 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 1: than ninety percent of the people that you know. When 268 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 1: you got into this and you began researching this book, 269 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: what was the biggest surprise to you? I think the 270 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: biggest surprise was the intensity of a seventy eight year 271 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: war and then the evolution of American society. In the beginning, 272 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 1: nobody knew about Fort Mims and the three hundred whites 273 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: who were slaughtered by the Creeks. Nobody knew why that 274 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: happened or how it happened, because it wasn't any news. 275 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: You couldn't get anything out of it, all right. It 276 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 1: was only months after that the American people were presented 277 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: with the horror that happened there. And that's because Andrew 278 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: Jackson was sent down by President Monroe. To quell the uprising, 279 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: and that got a little bit of attention. So Americans 280 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: didn't really know what was happening until after the Civil 281 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: War because that's when photography came in, and so you 282 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: see an evolution of information should flow once photography came in, 283 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 1: and once people could take pictures of the Native Americans themselves, 284 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: of massacre, sights of all of this. You know, in 285 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 1: the Little Big Horn fight, four journalists were killed. They 286 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: were riding with Custer and to cover the fight because 287 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: everybody knew there was going to be a big fight 288 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 1: between Custer and Crazy Horse. It was like a heavy 289 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: way bout and they all got killed. Because everybody got 290 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: killed Crazy Horse he was so far ahead of Custer. 291 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: And Custer was a good general. I mean, we tell 292 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 1: you about his history in the Civil War and things 293 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 1: like that, but Crazy Horse just absolutely out maneuvered him, 294 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 1: and boom. It's a saga, but it's fun to read, 295 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,719 Speaker 1: and you'll stay up late reading it, and then when 296 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: you're finished, you'll be able to discuss this all day 297 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,479 Speaker 1: long with anybody you know, and it's interesting to me. 298 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: It's just fascinating. You have this knack in all of 299 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: your books of finding nuggets. Nobody knows. How do you 300 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: guys go about your research, because it's very impressive. I'm 301 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: just as I'm listening today, and I know a reasonable 302 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: about about American history, but I'm picking up specific things 303 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,959 Speaker 1: that I didn't know. I'm just really impressed with how 304 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 1: well you guys do your research. Well, I have to 305 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: give credit to Martin du Guard the best research around 306 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: the planet. And what we do is Marty goes to 307 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 1: the places. All right, so killing Jesus, Marty was over 308 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: in Rome, he's over in Jerusalem, and he's talking to 309 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 1: all the people that have the primary source material. That's 310 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: the key to our research. Primary source material is written 311 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 1: by people on the scene. We don't read other books 312 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: and take stuff from other books. We don't do that. 313 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: We go to the museums, to the reservations, and we 314 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: seek out things that were written in real time. Okay, 315 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 1: Once we get that, I fashion the story around it. 316 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: So there was a lot written about the Comanches, unbelievable 317 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 1: bunch in Texas and New Mexico, and they went up 318 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,199 Speaker 1: to Oklahoma and then they raided into Mexico. Well, the 319 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: Comanches were so feared by everybody. The Mexican army was 320 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: petrified at them, and people would write down, right down, 321 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,719 Speaker 1: Oh the comanches are coming, and they did this, and 322 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: they did that. The stories that were told about them. 323 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 1: We got a hold of a lot of that primary 324 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,719 Speaker 1: source material, which is the key to the killing books. 325 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: So we're giving you unique things, things that we have 326 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: ferreted out that we know to be true, and we 327 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: cite them. You know, everything is backed up. It's like 328 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 1: my reporting on Billoreilly dot com. I'm a fact based analyst. 329 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: I back up what I say with facts, and that's 330 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 1: why I've been so successful on radio, TV, end in 331 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: books because it's not debatable. This happened, and here's how 332 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 1: we know what happened, and that's what we do. Tell 333 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: us just from it. About Bill o'reiley dot com, you know, 334 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 1: what are you doing there and what should people go 335 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: there for? Well, it's an amazing evolution. So I left 336 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 1: Fox News about three and a half years ago, and 337 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: that was a very big blow to me because I 338 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 1: did not expect that and it was a tremendously complicated situation. 339 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 1: But I'm the kind of guy that if you come 340 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,199 Speaker 1: at me and you do something unfair to me, I 341 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: am not going to lay down, and I didn't, so 342 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: I immediately form my own news organization. All right, I'm 343 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: the CEO and the primary reporter analyst, and we went 344 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: and we used the technology to form Bill Oreilly dot 345 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 1: com and I took five people from Fox with me, 346 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: so I had a very good core of journalists to 347 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: set us up for a daily broadcast called the No 348 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: Spin News, which we do every night. And then the 349 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: radio syndicators came at me, and I always loved Paul Harvey, 350 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 1: and so I resurrected the Paul Harvey fifteen minute newscasts 351 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: every day and we do that on more than three 352 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 1: hundred radio stations every day. So the combination of radio 353 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: and television built our audience. I think we're the most 354 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: profitable news internet organization in the world right now. We 355 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: have an enormous amount of people who follow us and 356 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: pay a fee, a small fee. I keep it very, 357 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: very reasonable so everybody can come on in. And we 358 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 1: have grown and grown since January the pandemic started. My company, 359 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 1: Mister Speaker, has gone from a five million dollar me 360 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 1: to a twenty five million dollar company in well what 361 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 1: nine months. And it's because, unlike most television news organizations, 362 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: we don't have an agenda. You know, I'm a traditional guy. 363 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: I lean conservative in some issues, but I don't have 364 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: an agenda. I wrote a book on Donald Trump, The 365 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: United States of Trump. That is the fairest book on 366 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. I think that's ever been written. And I 367 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: am not in business to promote any politician or do anything. 368 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: People know that I had twenty plush years of Fox. 369 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: They know who I am, so we have been very, 370 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 1: very successful. But the best thing is that I don't 371 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: have to work for corporation, so I didn't do pretty 372 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: much what I want to do, and that has meant 373 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: a lot to me in my lifestyle. I think that's 374 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: tremendous what you've achieved, because I watched you and we 375 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 1: chatted as you were leaving Fox, and I've watched how 376 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: you have evolved, and it's really very, very impres You're 377 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:05,360 Speaker 1: a unique figure in the number of people who admire 378 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: you and pay attention to you, and they're willingness to 379 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: follow you. That's, in a sense, what the remarkable success 380 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: of your books has told us. You and I have 381 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: something in common, and I think your listeners should know this. 382 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 1: So I've known a speaker now for twenty five years. 383 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: We bleed for our country. I mean Newt Gingrich and 384 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 1: Bill O'Reilly. This is what we have in common. We 385 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: bleed for our country. You may disagree with me, you 386 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: may disagree with Newt Gingrich, and that's fine. That's fine. 387 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: I am so emotional about America, and so everything that 388 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: I do isn't money driven. The only reason I gave 389 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: you the money stats, it's to show you the tremendous 390 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: growth in Bill O'Reilly dot com. I want to improve 391 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: the country as much as I can while I'm on 392 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: the planet because I see the nobility in America, and 393 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 1: I know you do too, because we've discussed it. I 394 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:07,719 Speaker 1: see how our country provides more opportunity for more people 395 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: than any other nation on Earth. You look at Rome, 396 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: you look at all the empires. No one has come 397 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: close to what America has done for the world, freeing 398 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: billions of people. I wrote three World War two books, 399 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: Killing Platt and Killing a Rising Sun, Killing the SS. 400 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: We did that. We freed people from fascism and communism. 401 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: And to see what's happening today, that we're evil, that 402 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: we're trying to hurt blacks and minorities and so That's 403 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: what I'm using my skill to do to counter all 404 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 1: of that, and that's why I'm pleased to run my 405 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: own news agency because I can do that. Twenty four 406 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: to seven. Well, the thing I liked about your courage 407 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: in tackling this particular book is it's the very touchy 408 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,479 Speaker 1: and complicated topic and it's easy to handle badly. And 409 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: I knew you would handle it in a way that 410 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: people would find it to be fascinating and balanced and 411 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: they would keep turning the page and learning something brand new. 412 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: Whether you are an advocate for Native Americans or you're 413 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 1: an advocate for the rise of the United States, that 414 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: you're going to play it right down the middle. You're 415 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: a great entertainer, so I knew the book would be interesting. 416 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 1: But I thought it took some guts on your part 417 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: to take this particular topic because it's a potentially very 418 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 1: controversial one. And I commend you because we need people 419 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: willing to stand in the middle of the arena and 420 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,199 Speaker 1: argue the case for thinking through what America is like, 421 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: not just parenting various anti American slogans. Well, we sent 422 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: the book to a number of Native American scholars. We 423 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: will have them in the coming weeks on the No 424 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 1: Spin News to talk about it. Try to be fair 425 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 1: and everything I do. I think fairness is a doctrine 426 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: that everybody and it's hard. It's hard to be fair, 427 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,959 Speaker 1: but everybody on this planet. If we all try to 428 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: be fair, I don't think we'd have the strife that 429 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: we have now. And so let's all try to be fair. 430 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: And that's what I try to do in Killing Crazy Horse. 431 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: I wish you'd extraordinary success with this latest venture, and 432 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: I hope that the next time you do a book 433 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 1: you'll come back and join us and chat about it again. 434 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 1: Mister speaker, I really enjoy talking with you, and now 435 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: I'll answer your questions. Charles M from Wisconsin asked, how 436 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: can we keep this election from having massive voter fraud? 437 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: Is something being done about that? And will we be 438 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: able to declare a winner on election night? Well? I 439 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: think that there are a lot of things being done. 440 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: There are a lot of lawyers being engaged, there are 441 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: thousands of volunteers being signed up. It's going to take 442 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 1: tremendous vigilance because the temptation on the left to steal 443 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: the election will be enormous and the number of ballots 444 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: by mail is going to be just extraordinary, far and 445 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: away the largest in American history. I think it's almost 446 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: certain that we will not be able to declare a 447 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: winner election night unless Trump wins in a gigantic landslide. 448 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: If this ends up being like the McGovern collapse or 449 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: the Mondale collapse, then if Biden actually collapses, we would 450 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: know an election night, but it's not conceivable to me 451 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: the Trump will do badly enough. And in fact, because 452 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: something like two thirds of all Republicans want to vote personally, 453 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: where about two thirds of all Democrats want to vote 454 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,959 Speaker 1: by mail, the odds are pretty good that election night, 455 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: Trump is going to have an enormous lead, and that's 456 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 1: beginning to worry the Democrats. The psychologically, the pressure to 457 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: accept him as the re elected president will be overwhelming, 458 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: even if it's close, because of the difference in how 459 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: the two parties are going to vote this year. It's 460 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: a fascinating problem. Thank you to my guest Bill O'Reilly. 461 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: You can read more about his new book, Killing Crazy Horse, 462 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: The Most Merciless Indian Wars in America, which is out 463 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 1: this Tuesday, September on our show page at Newtsworld dot 464 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: com Newtsworld is produced by Gingwish three sixty and iHeartMedia. 465 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: Our executive producer is Debbie Myers and our producer is 466 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: Guardsie Sloan. The artwork for the show was created by 467 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: Steve Penley. Special thanks to the team at Gingwich three sixty. 468 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: Please email me with your questions at Gingwich three sixty 469 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: dot com slash questions. 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