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Speaker 1: But I have seen and known parents that do see

427
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Speaker 1: a change in the older years, like I've seen a

428
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,199
Speaker 1: change in my parents now that I've become an adult,

429
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: much softer, much more sensitive, almost a little rueful and regretful,

430
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: because there's that thing of the constant turning back of

431
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,719
Speaker 1: did I have to go that hard? You know what

432
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 1: I mean? And it does create work ethic, it creates character,

433
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 1: but there might be a little bit of a cost,

434
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 1: you know. And and so I think that we see

435
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 1: that in just the way parenting changes. I mean, you're

436
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 1: raising children now in the year two and it seems

437
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,239
Speaker 1: like probably very different from the way that you were

438
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 1: raised and we were raised, and it just a completely

439
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 1: different worldview. I mean, absolutely, my dad, I don't know

440
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 1: if you guys ever heard of this movie called The

441
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 1: Great Santini and it was like very hardcore, just very

442
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 1: very hardcore man, And that was my dad's favorite movie.

443
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: He also loved to watch war movies. But he had

444
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 1: three daughters and he wanted to make us. He always said,

445
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 1: you gotta be bigger, better, better, just to be considered

446
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 1: even and kind of like, I'm going to prepare you

447
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: for what's happening out there, because if you can't take

448
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 1: it for me, you're you're going to crumble out there.

449
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 1: And turns out nothing has come close to what he

450
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 1: prepared before. Um, Like I basically left my house ready

451
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 1: for war, and you know it didn't come in the

452
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: way that I thought it was going to come. How

453
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: you prepared me for toxic masculinity. Um, then maybe I

454
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 1: would have made some different decisions. But yeah, like a

455
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 1: lot of times we really think we're preparing our children,

456
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 1: were protecting our children, and all you're doing is breaking

457
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,120
Speaker 1: your children. And some like you know you and I

458
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 1: like I became crazy efficient psycho, Like my work ethic

459
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: is beyond, but I will literally work myself into an

460
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: early grade because I don't recognize where working hard begins

461
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 1: and abusing myself starts and stops. You know, doing too much.

462
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 1: I have no concept of like until I'm literally like

463
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 1: I don't feel well, you know what I mean. But

464
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: a lot of kids, you know, I've met ninety year

465
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:57,239
Speaker 1: olds who are still wanting the love and validation from

466
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:01,360
Speaker 1: their parents. And what you what you do is you're

467
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 1: breaking them in a way that it's like humpty dumpy,

468
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 1: Like you might be able to get some pieces like

469
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 1: enough where they can cobble through a life, but there's

470
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 1: a brokenness that nothing can fix that because the love

471
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: of your parents are the first people that you love,

472
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: are the people are supposed to love you more than

473
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: anybody else. And if there are fissures and major breaks

474
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: and trauma in that, there's only so much therapy. And

475
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: a lot of kids don't survive that. A lot of kids,

476
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 1: and by kids I mean young children. I mean we

477
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: we're seeing younger and younger kids, you know, kid admitting suicide.

478
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 1: But you know, to that ninety year old who's still

479
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 1: looking for something for their parents who have been dead

480
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 1: for you know, a long time. But a lot of

481
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 1: our kids don't make it. And you know, they don't

482
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 1: make it physically because they take their lives or there's

483
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: a brokenness that can just that can just never be

484
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 1: filled and it's it doesn't have to be this way.

485
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 1: It just doesn't you know what I mean, It does

486
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 1: not have to be this way. And I just I hope,

487
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 1: you know, like my biggest reward or award that I

488
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: could get from this movie is again that one parent

489
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 1: I'm trying to reach. But if you know the other parents,

490
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I've already even heard from you know who

491
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: saw it this weekend. We were like, I screwed the pooch.

492
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: Holy crap. I never thought of myself as a villain

493
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 1: in my own child's life, and wow, okay, I'm going

494
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: to do different and even like quote unquote good parents,

495
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: you know, um, I'd like to think of myself as

496
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: a as a as a solid parents, you know, um,

497
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: a good ally. But even we make mistakes and Zi

498
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: has had to check us for filth often, you know, um,

499
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: and trying to throw away some of the things that

500
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: our parents gave us that brought it and spoiled in

501
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: the seventies and eighties. And I'm like, now let's bring

502
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: it out. It looks yeah, plum parenting, and it's as

503
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: thinks that's a way that should have been left a

504
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: long time ago, and that that's why you're in therapy, lady.

505
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: And I'm like, you're right, you work on that and

506
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: maybe not pass on the same crap to my kids.

507
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: But luckily we have a very outspoken child who you know,

508
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: is up to date and is refusing to shape shift

509
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: for adult comfort. She's refusing to compromise on being her

510
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: wholeful as self for anyone's comfort. And I'm like, is

511
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: there a ted talk you can give? There's a little

512
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: lot of people who can benefit by like getting these

513
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: pep talks a we get from her, And and I

514
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: know she's speaking to herself as much as she's speaking

515
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: to everybody else, but like man and a child shall

516
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: lead them. So yes, you know, it's a lot of pressure.

517
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: That's it's very public too, you know, because everyone knows

518
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: your story and like the story you are telling and living.

519
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: And so when she came to us and was like,

520
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: because you know, between the two of us were constantly

521
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: doing press and people refer to our children constantly by

522
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: the names that they think, and Zia was like, I

523
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: need people to know that this is my name and

524
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: these are my pronouns. And we're like, well, I mean

525
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: people know like the people that count your school and

526
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: your friends and family. And she was like, you know,

527
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: because everybody I hear it. I read it like people

528
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: reference us all the time, and I want them to

529
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: use my name and my pronouns and me and you

530
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 1: were like, okay, do you know how this works and

531
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: how you get that kind of message to everybody at

532
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: one time? And she was like, yeah, you'll do one

533
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: of your pressed. It was like yeah, but then everyone

534
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: knows and are you okay with this? And she said

535
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 1: I want my name. It was very first of all,

536
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 1: the first thing I thought of a Tina Turner when

537
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: she was like, I just want on but when that's

538
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: a major part of your I mean, your name is

539
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: the first thing you offer as a part of your identity.

540
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: And she wanted to know, you know, just as my

541
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: name and these are my pronouns, and I'm gonna give

542
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: you a hot second to switch over your brain. She

543
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: gave us exactly one school year, and I mean, I

544
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: have to say I think d D was off book.

545
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: If you will no mistakes, like no no mistakes that

546
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: she she gave us a bit of grace and but

547
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: everyone's fallen in well, most people have fallen in and

548
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: they realize, this is who this child is, and she's

549
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: amazing and smart and dynamic and going to change the world,

550
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: and we should all get behind her because she's she's

551
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: doing it whether we are standing in her way or not,

552
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: you know, so why don't we get behind her? And

553
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: what's incredible is that she in sort of the inverted

554
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: way of the way that maybe you were parented, is

555
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: that she is picking up on a lot of information

556
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: in her outside world and going, oh, I'm preparing myself

557
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: for my own battle, you know, like, and she's informing

558
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: she's sort of like up cycling it too to her parents,

559
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: where she goes, this is what you need to know.

560
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: Here's how you can support me. Let's do it. Like

561
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: what a lovely sort of directionality that goes in where

562
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: it goes up and down and outward. Well, I mean,

563
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: she said the most the other day that she had

564
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: joined basically I'm not I'm sure there's a name for it,

565
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: but basically the Black Student Union at her school. And

566
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, let's dope, and she was like,

567
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: and I joined the Latino Students group And I was like, okay,

568
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: is there a yeah? And she's like, oh, look you know,

569
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: her two best friends are biracial and half Latina, and

570
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: she's like, it's not my place to go to the

571
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: meetings and speak, it's my it's my place to go

572
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: to the meetings and learn and so I can know

573
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: how to better support my friends. And I'm like, what,

574
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: that's incredibly gosh okayhmore and yeah, and we were like, yeah,

575
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: of course you would be in Laassa because you are

576
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: a good ally and also know to not center yourself. Well,

577
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 1: my job here is done. What I've always really admired

578
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: about you is you really do speak truth to power,

579
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: and I I think one of my favorite things I've

580
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: seen anyone do was the speech that you gave. It

581
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: was when you got the Fearsome Fields Award, and you

582
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: you owned up to something that I think we in

583
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: the queer community can really identify with as well. And

584
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: I was really excited to talk to you about this

585
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: because when you said that when someone like another black

586
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: actress would get a role that you wanted, you'd be

587
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: talking ship and like you be that person that was

588
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: like not rooting for people, and that of course comes

589
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: from a system that doesn't or it feels like because

590
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: it really hasn't, and it's getting incrementally better as we

591
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: see more representation, but it comes from like they're really

592
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: not feeling like there's enough, like and and the pitting

593
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 1: against each other. And I think that as gay actors

594
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: we experienced this as well. I can't say that I've

595
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,439
Speaker 1: been saying every single time I have seen a part,

596
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 1: I wanted to go to X, Y or Z, and

597
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 1: maybe I have said some stuff, But so watch you

598
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,760
Speaker 1: get up on that stage in front of your peers

599
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: and say that. I think was really powerful because it

600
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: was a moment where you called everybody in by calling

601
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,919
Speaker 1: yourself out. And I just think that that was such

602
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 1: a moment, And I wonder, like what went into the

603
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: decision for you to be that honest, because it's really

604
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: hard to be honest in this town, in Hollywood, because

605
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 1: people will look at you like, oh, well, you know,

606
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 1: she'll say like the truth and God forbid that, Like

607
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: so we maybe we wouldn't want to like and bring

608
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 1: her in or involved in something, but it seemed like

609
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: it was more important to you to call that out

610
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 1: and move forward. But what went into the decision to

611
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 1: be honest that night and also so honest about everything,

612
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: like I was working on this speech with my life

613
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 1: coach at the time, and as one does, and she

614
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: was like, what is your goal, m And I was like,

615
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: give a good speech. And she was like, should the

616
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: truth be present in this speech? Or you want to

617
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: string together a bunch of cliches like every other actress

618
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: is going to do. And she's like, you have an

619
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: opportunity in this room to talk about all the things

620
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: that we've been working on that you say you're on

621
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 1: the other side of. Let's talk about it. I was like, okay, um,

622
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,399
Speaker 1: challenge accepted. And when I got up there, my hands

623
00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: are shaking. I'm I'm looking out I see Oprah Um

624
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: and Gail and like all of my like my best friends,

625
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: but also you know, a room of my peers and

626
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 1: people I have actively rooted against and people I know

627
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: who have actively rooted against me, and we we all

628
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: just accepted it as Hollywood. That's just Hollywood. And that

629
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: was like kind of like parenting. But what if there's

630
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: another way. What if we can move through this industry

631
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 1: with radical transparency and honesty, And what's the worst that

632
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: can happen? You know what I mean? Like I'm already

633
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 1: not getting jobs and what's gonna what's the worst that

634
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: can happen? Um, But something amazing happened is my world

635
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: opened up a I felt free as hell for the

636
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,919
Speaker 1: first time I felt free in a room like that.

637
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 1: I had no secrets, I had no ulterior motive, there

638
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 1: were no agendas. I just wanted to tell the truth.

639
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: And then each person who got up after me was like, Okay,

640
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: well here was my speech, and after that like, I'm

641
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: just gonna get up here and tell and that's all.

642
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: I want all to be free. But we can't be

643
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: free living a lie. We can't be free not calling

644
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: a thing a thing, you know what I mean? And

645
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: it changed my life and I I got way more

646
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 1: after that speech, because there's a fear of like, oh

647
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 1: my god, I'm gonna be honest and everyone's gonna hate

648
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: me and I'm never gonna be seen from again. And

649
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: it was the opposite. Every time I opt for just

650
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 1: the truth, just my reality, I've gotten more and and

651
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 1: and by more, I mean more people are like, thank

652
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: you for saying that. I thought I was alone on

653
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 1: an island. I thought I was the only one. So,

654
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: whether it's fertility, whether it's racism, whether it's colorism, whether

655
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 1: it's raising a queer child, whether it's equity, the farce

656
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: of equity in in Hollywood or in any major industry.

657
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: It doesn't serve anyone to to spout lies like change

658
00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: doesn't happen from upholding the company line. It never will.

659
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: So you can do the bidding of those same people

660
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 1: who won't spit in your direction when you're on fire,

661
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: or you can free yourself and others by telling the

662
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 1: truth and banning together. And that's kind of what happened. Yeah, well,

663
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: we here on last culture are big fans of burning

664
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: it down. So burn it all down and right a

665
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: slift yea poetry. So we u We have a question

666
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: that we asked every single one of our guests, and this,

667
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: uh is when we are asking you right now, which

668
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 1: is what was the culture that made you say culture

669
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: was for you, Gabrielle Union. This is the piece of

670
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,760
Speaker 1: pop culture that you were exposed to in your life

671
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: at some point. It would be like a movie, a

672
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: musical artist, something, a TV show, something in your surroundings

673
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: that you can look back on now and you think

674
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: that made me who I was, or at least start

675
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: to become who I was. Yah, it's a big question,

676
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: but it's actually quite simple. A few answers, but it

677
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: can be multiple answers as well. Well. Okay, so I

678
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: would say to take it off Greece, I'm I'm a

679
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: Grease one and two super fans, but also like it.

680
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,879
Speaker 1: It changed the way I look at quote unquote bad girls.

681
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 1: Like my alias forever was Chacha what we called her

682
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 1: Chacha dukie Oriole because that's what it sounded like to us.

683
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: Her character name was Sacha DiGregorio, repretatious, but that all

684
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,399
Speaker 1: was like, wait, that girls seem to have a lot

685
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: more fun. Sure Stoccard Channing's character of Rizzo had a

686
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: pregnancy scare. Okay, perhaps you know have safer sex than Rizzo,

687
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 1: but she sounds like she's she's having the most fun

688
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: of it of everybody. So I kind of lean more into, like,

689
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, living on the edge once I got

690
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: a car um but also playing a team well into

691
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: my thirties kind of took me in there. Like watching

692
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: the Barge. Like every summer I would go back to

693
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 1: Omaha and that's where I got to watch b ET

694
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 1: and I would just watch the Et because I was

695
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: the only time I got to see black people, and

696
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: I saw the barge and Bunny to Barge and she

697
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 1: was like writing in a in a convertible, singing with

698
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,280
Speaker 1: her brothers. And I wanted to be Bunny to Barge

699
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 1: and I wanted to be like that that bitch, so

700
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: Bunny to Barge and then any like everything Janet Jackson,

701
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: like I wanted to be Janet Jackson, my super hot dentist.

702
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:56,919
Speaker 1: Um really he was unusually good looking. UH used to say,

703
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: I looked I reminded him of Janet Jack's in and

704
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: I believed him because his wife was the dental hygienist

705
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,879
Speaker 1: and she would always make a leader like it's because

706
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: I trying to ruin my smile and I got those

707
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: braces off and it's been cooking with fish freeze everywhere.

708
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, but like Janet made me feel like I

709
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: could do anything, like if I got like a smidgeon

710
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: of Janet nous, which I was unstoppable, And to this day,

711
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: anything big in my life, I'm playing Janet like walking

712
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: right before I walk in need feel like that of

713
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: all things. But now she's a friend, so it's a

714
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: little weird. I mean, you can still gauge like an

715
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: admirable distance, a distance of admiration, like, wait, what are

716
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 1: the songs that are playing before you walk into with

717
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: high stakes situation? What's in your head? It's the one

718
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: with her and Beatie Man. Um, oh my god, I

719
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 1: just smoked at you, guys, damn it. Normally it's like

720
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,879
Speaker 1: all for you, but it's like it's the one where

721
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 1: she's on the beach with Beatie Man. Yeah, yes, yes, yes,

722
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do that music video is absolutely iconic. That

723
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 1: was She's so hot in her no one's worn a

724
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:16,760
Speaker 1: bra right since everything to this day, like she's everything,

725
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: Like we'll be a dinner and I'm just like, come on,

726
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 1: it's Janet. She ordered the eggplant. Yeah, I'd like, I'd

727
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: like what she's having in a very real way. I'm

728
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I'm an eggplant clean and she

729
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 1: she is a friend that reminds you to set your

730
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: clocks forward or backwards, which I love that about her, honestly,

731
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: Like singing in cars a theme here. This is so

732
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: funny that you say Greece because I was just last

733
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 1: night for some reason, you know, when your instinct just

734
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: takes you in a weird place. It wanted me to play.

735
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: There are worst things I could do in this whole

736
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 1: towel room, so did you as well? The way you

737
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,439
Speaker 1: just lurched out of your chair and there I will

738
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: never turn down an opportunity to sing. There are worst

739
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: things I could do. It is the song, and you

740
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: know they almost cut it, Like Stockard talks about an

741
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: interviews there that she begged them. She was like, please,

742
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 1: you have to keep it in. It is the window

743
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: to her soul. If you don't, if you cut that song,

744
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: like the character doesn't make sense. And honestly me as

745
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 1: like a little kid watching it because it too was

746
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: one of my favorite movies. I think I know every

747
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,479
Speaker 1: single line of dialogue, like we'll see, I'll test myself later.

748
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 1: But when she sings that song, like even as a

749
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 1: little queer kid, like I'm watching it and I'm like

750
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: the inner life being exposed, like the nuances in the performance,

751
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: like that's one of those that's like if you go

752
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: back in time, like give that an Oscar nomination, like

753
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: Stockard chanting unforgettable in that number and throughout like truly,

754
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 1: I mean the way she clutched those books to her, yes,

755
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: she was like trying to round the corner away from

756
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: the Patty Simpax and he and I said, she like

757
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 1: she tries to hide with her books, but like I

758
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: literally will do the whole thing, like acting out with

759
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 1: the books and a pencil skirt and like hiding behind

760
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: doors again just like this all night. The books are

761
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: such a part of it because even like when they

762
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 1: did it live, like Vanessa Hudgens like had the books

763
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: to the damn Sternum, like she she's protecting herself. Of course,

764
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 1: to this day, I love Vanessa and I'll be like,

765
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: please do it please. She did great. She was so

766
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:31,720
Speaker 1: good and she's like the Yeah. So we're watching Johnet

767
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: order the egg plant. We're making Vanessa's things that are

768
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 1: worse things I can do. Does de Barge Greece and

769
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:47,720
Speaker 1: Janet Jane Tableau makes Gabrielle Union. We love it honestly,

770
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: Like you know what I love is like RuPaul and

771
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,879
Speaker 1: RuPaul's drag Race obsessed with DeBarge, Like he keeps talking

772
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: about all the kids now that are on it that

773
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 1: are truly yeah there, but everyone every queen on that

774
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: show they hired I was younger than thirty, so they're

775
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 1: always looking at real like like they don't know. And

776
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: like the queen he said, looked like El de Bard,

777
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: like Crystal looks like El de Barge. And this queen

778
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 1: said afterwards, I didn't know what the funk rule was

779
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: talking about. The entire time. I was just smiling and

780
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: nodding at the Barge. That's how you got to go

781
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 1: back to the eighties, like the eighties de Barge, you know,

782
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: that's like a hate more of behaved day. Yeah, but

783
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 1: I would go see L. I saw L right for

784
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: the pandemic. It was El de Barge, Casey and Joe

785
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: Joe Sat. I feel like there's one other artists, but

786
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 1: like those three, for those four, I should say, and

787
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: got my whole life, as did everyone in the audience.

788
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 1: Like I screamed for like throughout the whole thing all

789
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: like three hours, as I who's in Miami, here we go.

790
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 1: Yeah at university. Yeah, it was like the old school

791
00:45:56,719 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: soul or whatever. It was amazing. Do you forget like

792
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: how many hits that L had solo, how many hits

793
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: he had with the Bard, like Keith Sweat has bangers

794
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: to this day and Cathy and Jojo, I mean what

795
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: else is I mean crazy? I'll be tossing my head

796
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: back to revisit myself. Wow, oh no, they were good,

797
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:24,959
Speaker 1: and you know they're fantasias cousins. Yes, And then wait

798
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 1: then I saw something on Wikipedia earlier which I have

799
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: to ask you about. Are you Sweedie's cousin know that?

800
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: Because it's like I feel like it took a turn

801
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 1: like like to negative for her. Like people thought she

802
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: was like a nepo baby, but I'm like, she's like

803
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: a whole different generation. Like her dad and I are

804
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 1: first cousins. Her grandmother is my aunt um, and me

805
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: and her dad are born a day apart, and so

806
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: we were kind of like raised like fiddlings um. So

807
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: when Deed was when he had we called her. Our

808
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 1: family calls her d d Um. You know, like the

809
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: last I was like sort of keeping up with her.

810
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: She was like a toddler. And then all this time

811
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 1: I moved away from home, like I go to Hollywood,

812
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: and so I randomly casually asked like, oh yeah, let's

813
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: look up too. I knew she was like at s C.

814
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: I thought she was like looking at IBM. I had

815
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 1: no idea, and they were like, she's doing she's like

816
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: car wraps. And I was like, okay, car wraps and

817
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, kid, just send me a link. So I

818
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: get the link to it was like the biggest train

819
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: that she had done at that point, and it had

820
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: millions and millions and millions of views. Wait a second,

821
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: and then like Icy Girl came right after, like maybe

822
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 1: a month or two later, and we were in Miami

823
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: and she was like, I'm in town, you know, let's go,

824
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 1: let's link up. And I was like yes, And I

825
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 1: at this point I don't even understand, like she's got

826
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: a deal, she's got a whole team, Like I'm so

827
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: after the fact, I'm like, so you're not at ibm um,

828
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: and you're doing okay for yourself. So I do want

829
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 1: to make it very clear I did not help her

830
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 1: career in any way shape or for being my relative,

831
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: in no way aided or abetted her. But she's she's

832
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 1: amazing in her own right. And she was a super

833
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: amazing student, like that was her thing. Like she was

834
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 1: very very smart and obviously very beautiful, and then she

835
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 1: started doing correpts and now the rest is history. In

836
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: a different industry too, by the way, like that's that's

837
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: not quite how nepotism usually works sometimes. Had I known,

838
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,879
Speaker 1: I would have been like the Mama June in her

839
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: I would have tried to manage her. But I did.

840
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: It was kind of after the fact, so um I did.

841
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 1: I did definitely reach out to her, like my friends

842
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,320
Speaker 1: at her label that you know, perhaps run the label,

843
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: and I'm like, if she a priority because she's trying

844
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:56,760
Speaker 1: to buy things, and they're like, wait, what, that's your cousin.

845
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:00,720
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, like could she get like a condo?

846
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: And they're like, yes, girl, a priority. She is, She's everything,

847
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,919
Speaker 1: and they could not believe that she never mentioned it ever.

848
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: I think I spilled the beans first, and now it's

849
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: I hope it's not a major negative or a knock

850
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,879
Speaker 1: on her being related to me, because I'm just we're

851
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: just proud of her, like I'm very yeah, well yeah.

852
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 1: And then when you know that, especially you being in

853
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: the industry and understanding what what the entertainment industry is,

854
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: seeing the darkness and like everything that comes with it,

855
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 1: like of course us her family is going to step

856
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:34,439
Speaker 1: in and be like, I want to make sure she's

857
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: being treated right, because I mean, the music industry is

858
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: a whole other thing. It's a whole other animal, and

859
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: you know, I only know what I know. So I'm like,

860
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 1: I will I'm always here as a resource, um, but

861
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: what am I? And I'm fifty Like I'm like leten

862
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: I worked out some choreography out of here. She I

863
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: mean her her verse a Little Mix has a song

864
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 1: called Confetti and Sweedie got on Confetti and I swear

865
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: to god that song went from like an eight to

866
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 1: a fifteen for me and then I literally I was

867
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 1: doing a bit on this podcast stream Confetti, Stream Confetti,

868
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 1: like best first I've heard on a pop song and

869
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: like the last like four or five years. I mean,

870
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: it's iconic, right, It's iconic, iconic. Sweet. Also, when she

871
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 1: wrote her not to drop Snal again but she wrote

872
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 1: the RESTNL, it was like such a cool moment. It

873
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 1: was her and seem so it was like to like

874
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 1: Asians like on the on the bill basically and it

875
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,439
Speaker 1: was like, oh this is this is fun and god

876
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: she was so she did tap in into um but

877
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 1: she she just had so many good looks and it

878
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:48,280
Speaker 1: was so so so good. She's good like yeah, yeah,

879
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: you know, and we're just proud, like we're just like

880
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: go ahead, girl, like and I'm like, do you need it? No, okay, yep, yeah, coverage.

881
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: I always put like the help out there. I'm like, okay, yeah,

882
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:05,359
Speaker 1: it's fine. I'll just be cheering back here technology. It's fine.

883
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: I'm still gonna let here we go. Yeah. So wait,

884
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: because before we move on to I don't think so

885
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 1: honey on like tennis minutes, I have to ask you,

886
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,399
Speaker 1: like because you really, like even just a cursory look

887
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: at like what you've done. You truly appeared in all

888
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: of my favorite movies, like when I was in the

889
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: late nineties, like I'm telling you love in Basketball again Stars,

890
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: the way that Stars was giving bring it on and

891
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: loving basketball and she's all that in rotation. So it

892
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: was just and ten things I hit about you. So

893
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: it was Gabrielle, Gabrielle, Gabrielle, and so I've been just

894
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: such a fan for so long, but specifically about loving basketball.

895
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about like favorite memories from

896
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: that because that is such a classic. That is one

897
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 1: of the great romance films. And now like Gina prince

898
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: By popping off with the woman King, like finally like

899
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 1: people really understanding because again, like someone can be around

900
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 1: for so long. But it's like, how many times you

901
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 1: have to hear this name for her to be like

902
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:06,280
Speaker 1: a list director? Like she is truly one of the greats.

903
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: And I just wanted to ask about anything you remember

904
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: from Love and Basketball, maybe working with Alfrey the Queen, truly,

905
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: like what did you got from Love and Basketball? Well, Luckily,

906
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 1: from Love and Basketball I got one of my best

907
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: friends in Sina Lathan. She was not friendly at the time.

908
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: She was not friendly at the time. I was just,

909
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 1: you know, I was sort of newish, you know, to

910
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 1: the to the business, and I hadn't done a ton

911
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: of movies and I had originally auditioned for Sina's role,

912
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 1: and um, Gina was like, I don't think you're right

913
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,399
Speaker 1: for this, but there's another role that I think you're

914
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: you'll be perfect for. The sizes are in the lobby,

915
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: you know, take all the time you need. And I

916
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 1: get to the lobby and I'm like, because I'm in

917
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: my basketball shorts, I'm giving you that I was a

918
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,280
Speaker 1: real I was an actual act. You were an athlete.

919
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 1: I'm giving you my whole operation. And so I get

920
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 1: back to the lobby and I'm like, oh, she's a

921
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 1: hop Yeah, she's the she's the hole on the side. Yeah,

922
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: my critessy is an athlete that I really am, but

923
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: you could see me as a home okay, okay, So

924
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: needless to say, I got the role. Um my holenus

925
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: just came out. But it's funny because later on today

926
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: Gina and I are interviewing each other for a whole

927
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 1: different amazing finally, just twenty years Why did you think

928
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: I was a hume? What whole vibe was that giving off? Um? Yeah,

929
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 1: like we we had like me and Boris Kojo were

930
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 1: both kind of new and they had us in in Hollywood,

931
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 1: like where you rank kind of goes by your trailer.

932
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 1: So we had a we were sharing with I don't

933
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 1: remember who. The third person was a honey Wagon, which

934
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 1: was like it's tiny, yeah, tiny little sliver, and the

935
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 1: air conditioning wasn't working. We're working in the summer, and

936
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,439
Speaker 1: so we would just whoever was in the middle wasn't

937
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 1: there that day. So we opened up all the little

938
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: you know, accordion walls, and so we had a bigger

939
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 1: room and we left the doors open. We'd literally sit

940
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 1: on our steps and and that's how we became close friends. Um,

941
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 1: so I made really great friends on this movie. Omar

942
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 1: and I are great friends. Um, but a lot of

943
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 1: that happened later because Sanah and Omar were an actual

944
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 1: real couple. Yet, yeah, they were an actual real couple. Um.

945
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 1: So he Omar didn't like, you know, or didn't really

946
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 1: mess with Boris and Sna was really not messing with me.

947
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 1: So because the roles we were sort of playing. And

948
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:44,439
Speaker 1: then cut to later, I'm in Miami filming Bad Voice

949
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: for six months and she's in Miami staying at the

950
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: same hotel filming at a time, and she sees me

951
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 1: in the lobby and I see her and I'm like,

952
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 1: fun this book and so I'm giving her dust and

953
00:54:55,280 --> 00:55:02,359
Speaker 1: she's like, no, be does that whole time. But yeah,

954
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: we bonded, and you know, she apologized and gave me

955
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 1: her feel of her process, and yeah, we've been best

956
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 1: season since. I love it. Oh man, I I just

957
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 1: rewatched it again because I've covered it. I have this

958
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 1: other podcast for HBO Max and I it's on their list.

959
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:20,919
Speaker 1: You can stream it on HBO Max people. But we

960
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 1: went into it like it holds up so well and

961
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 1: it gives you all those good nostalgic feelings and that's one.

962
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 1: I mean talk about iconic moments like that song full

963
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: of Me at the end when they when they play

964
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 1: each other. I mean, that is for all time. That

965
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 1: that is for all time. That movie incredible because it

966
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 1: also has that di'angelo song, but that one that's so

967
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:50,240
Speaker 1: good in it, Like Regina Hall in it, Harry Lennox

968
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 1: was in it, Like there were so many people that

969
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: were that We're in it. Tyra was in it right,

970
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 1: and everyone stuck to you know what I mean, like

971
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 1: everyone's still working and doing great. We're still chugging away. Wait,

972
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: you've mentioned Miami a couple of times. I wanted to ask,

973
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 1: because Matt and I are going to Miami for New

974
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 1: Year's what is like the vibe now for when you

975
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 1: guys go, like, what what's on the docket? Is there one?

976
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: Are you guys just like chilling? For the most part,

977
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 1: it's Miami, Like it's most when it's at dinner. Where

978
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 1: are we going? Probably Carbone? But it's different, like Miami

979
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 1: changed a lot during the pendem it felt very republican. Um,

980
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:47,359
Speaker 1: it felt very it felt very jed Um and all

981
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 1: their friends brought up all of the beach. Everyone in

982
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 1: left New York during the pandemic overpaid. Uh you know,

983
00:56:56,239 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 1: moved down and the vibe is a little depending on

984
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 1: where you go, the vibe is a little different. Um.

985
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 1: I mean they you can't say gay um, like you

986
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: can't teach history like you like, it's a whole weird vibe. Um.

987
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 1: But in terms of fun, uh yeah, I mean people

988
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 1: go to just kind of lose themselves. So I hope

989
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: you all'll be getting lost boat have a boat day, yes,

990
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 1: like that would like the boat, get those pictures on

991
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: the yacht, like like it's like a small yacht, it's

992
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 1: like a book little boat. And we also have a

993
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 1: friend that's like a reservation queen. Yes, so it's like

994
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 1: we're covered on the reservations and stuff. So it's good

995
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 1: to have always roll with someone in the crew that's

996
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 1: like he says, his gay powers reservations because it's like

997
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 1: New Year's is it's a big holiday for us down there.

998
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 1: So make sure you get your rooms, your O, B

999
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 1: and d s because we're good. Yeah, we have to

1000
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: go to Idom thinks to hunt. And something you just

1001
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: said made me realize what I'm gonna do. So this

1002
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 1: is I don't think so honey, This is our one

1003
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 1: minute segment where we drag something in pop culture that

1004
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 1: needs to be absolutely fucking dragged. Bow and I do

1005
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 1: have something. You'll watch us, and then I know you're

1006
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 1: gonna have one Gabrielle union. So this is I don't

1007
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 1: think it's Honey Boone and I'm ready to go. This

1008
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,439
Speaker 1: is Matt Rogers. I don't think the Wings time starts now.

1009
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 1: I don't think so Honey Avanca being like, I'm actually

1010
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: stepping away from politics this time, bitch, We're already good

1011
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 1: on you, and don't even think about moving back to

1012
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 1: New York. If you want to be shown every damn

1013
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: door in your face, stay down in Florida. So when

1014
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 1: we cut it off and let it float away, you

1015
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 1: can be on it. I can't stand Ivanka Trump. There's

1016
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 1: not a single like bone in my body that's even close.

1017
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 1: And when I saw you make this statement, I was like,

1018
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 1: what is she trying to do? Now? So it's like,

1019
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 1: who even needs to hear from you? I have not

1020
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 1: turned my head to this Trump announcement. Maybe I should,

1021
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 1: because I guess we should quote unquote be prepared for

1022
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 1: whatever is happening. But whatever Ivanka and Jared are thinking

1023
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 1: you're gonna is gonna happen now? No, the answer is no.

1024
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 1: The answer is a capital and capital. Oh, we're done.

1025
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, iv Anka, You're not going

1026
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 1: to become friends with Chelsea Clinton again. I understand, like

1027
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 1: it's been a quote unquote hard year, but no, no

1028
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 1: sympathy for you, Ivanka, No sympathy for you. Jared. We're

1029
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 1: taking back the name Jared. I have people in my

1030
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 1: life that I love that are called Jared, and I

1031
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 1: I'm taking it back. Ivanka. You can stay gone. I

1032
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. And that's one minute. Wow, that

1033
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 1: was dense. She really tried something with that statement of

1034
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 1: I will be stepping out of the political sphere and

1035
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 1: almost like this little hint of like and you're welcome,

1036
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 1: and like hint hint, Maybe I don't sup. We don't care,

1037
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 1: we don't care. What if they say that he made

1038
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 1: like what a one point nine billion during his presidency?

1039
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 1: Disgusting girl. Your hands are dirty, okay, so Bo and Yang,

1040
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 1: this is your I don't think so, honey. And your

1041
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 1: time starts now. I don't think so hony. Herbal cigarettes

1042
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 1: on film sets, I saw Gabriel Union smoke one in

1043
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 1: the movie The Inspection, and I went, I know she

1044
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 1: is not enjoying that because they taste somehow worse than cigarettes.

1045
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 1: And I get that there are laws in place and

1046
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 1: people do get bothered by the second hand smoke. But

1047
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 1: on a sensory level, the herbal cigarettes are just worse.

1048
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 1: And I don't even know if they're that even even

1049
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 1: that much healthier for you. There's no like tar and

1050
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 1: like the arsenic or anything, I guess. But also it

1051
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 1: just doesn't feel. It does not do the body good

1052
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 1: to even inhale a little vapor molecule of the stuff.

1053
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 1: It smells bad. It clings worse than glitter somehow. It

1054
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 1: just stays on you for days and days, and I

1055
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 1: cling and clings worse than glitter, and not that many

1056
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 1: things cling worse than glitter. I do not wish sigarettes

1057
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Speaker 1: on any actors, any proper person, on anyone on any

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Speaker 1: film set. I don't think so any herbal cigarettes in film.

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Speaker 1: And that's one minute you don't realize how harsh they are.

1060
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 1: I had to do it, and I love that for you.

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01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 1: When my character was smoking weed and it was the herbs,

1062
01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:00,919
Speaker 1: and it is harsh, and I was changing smoking. Well,

1063
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 1: I have an actual allergy to the chemicals that are exhaled.

1064
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:11,959
Speaker 1: It may like fries, so I'm immediately congested. I can't

1065
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 1: breathe like and it gives me like bronchitis for like

1066
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 1: months at a time. So I tried, definitely try to

1067
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 1: like stay away from cigarettes. I don't have like a

1068
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 1: philosophical opposition to like cigarettes, but like just you know,

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01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 1: go over there. Um okay, um wait, so wait, what's

1070
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 1: the catchphrase? So you say, I don't think so honey

1071
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 1: the thing and then if you can repeat the phrase,

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01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 1: I don't think so high, don't think so honey. Okay,

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Speaker 1: and this is your time, it starts now, I don't

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01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 1: think so honey. You have food restrictions on Thanksgiving, Listen,

1075
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 1: there will be a turkey, there will be a handy camp.

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01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 1: I don't care that you can't have gluten or dairy

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01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 1: or peanuts or whatever. Don't come into a black home

1078
01:01:55,240 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 1: talking about food restrictions or allergies or sensitivities. You're gonna

1079
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 1: get all of these things, and no one is going

1080
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 1: to care about whether or not your plate as full,

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01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 1: um have the salads has gluten? Who cares? Okay, we

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01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 1: don't care. Let me tell you right now, we don't

1083
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 1: care about your food restrictions, your dietary restrictions, things that

1084
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 1: you were just opposed to. Pork, Oh, the pork, the

1085
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 1: pork industry. You know who doesn't care all of us,

1086
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 1: all of us that we eat um, So listen, thank

1087
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 1: you for coming. You tried it. Eat this candy tam

1088
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 1: um five by incredible. It's called tupperware. Fill it up

1089
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 1: with whatever you got. You can heat it up over

1090
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 1: there in the microwaves or bring your own ship to Thanksgiving.

1091
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 1: I don't want to give of your your dietary restrictions

1092
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 1: because you know who's not paying attention are getting well?

1093
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 1: Like I'm technically gluten free, dairy free, but not on Thanksgiving?

1094
01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 1: Why would I even do that? Why would I do that?

1095
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 1: As on Thankgiving? And the glutenous the inflammation, you don't

1096
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 1: who who wants to hear about inflammation around the holidays?

1097
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 1: No one, No one cares about like the rest of us. Yeah, period,

1098
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 1: it's it's actually it's a season for eating, but it's

1099
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 1: also a season for shifting and bowen. That's really culture

1100
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 1: number it's and it's also a season for susse probiotics,

1101
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 1: you guys. Yeah, And with that, I encourage everyone I

1102
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 1: know Bowen does to go see the inspection. Will be

1103
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 1: wide release when this episode comes out. Gabrielle Union, I mean,

1104
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Speaker 1: this was such a pleasure. It was so nice to

1105
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 1: talk to you. This was a lot of fun, and

1106
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 1: we truly stand as the kids. Thank you, thank you,

1107
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. I've had the best time. You're

1108
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 1: the best bow We'll catch up in the stack. But

1109
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 1: all right, everybody, Oh, I see it. She really had

1110
01:03:58,000 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 1: to go bo. So I was like, we I don't

1111
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 1: think we can sing at her right now and get

1112
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 1: the woman is on a press tour for two projects

1113
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 1: and she is a champion for it. Truly, this is

1114
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 1: even one is as as you all know, this is

1115
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 1: the year where everyone as a culture understood that press

1116
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 1: tours are nuts. So like, I got it this year

1117
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 1: have never had before I'm saying. I mean, like I

1118
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 1: think in a post Gaga world, we understand press tours

1119
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:28,919
Speaker 1: to be one thing like oh at least to get

1120
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 1: like these fun moments. But now post House of Gucci

1121
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:36,440
Speaker 1: and post don't worry about everyone's just like the glut

1122
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 1: of it is a lot. So anyway, all our sympathies.

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Speaker 1: We need to do a movie called press Tour. You

1124
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 1: and I need to do a movie called press Tour.

1125
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 1: Oh my god, one fun wow, wow wow. Look at

1126
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 1: Christopher guest style, like, well, I guess that's that's for

1127
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 1: your consideration. But we can we can find it, can

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Speaker 1: find it. Take. We're gonna go do that now. We

1129
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:03,920
Speaker 1: hope you'll have an excellent excellent Well let's just say day,

1130
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 1: day and maybe night. Yeah, and we and every episode

1131
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 1: a bow with this song. And it's Christmas time yourself

1132
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 1: maryss to my own fake Christmas now screaming, now please dream?

1133
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 1: Have you heard of Christmas? Okay, so the star turn

1134
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:40,880
Speaker 1: for my star turning. I love bathroom acting. It's my

1135
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 1: favorite spoiler alert? Did you like acting with me in

1136
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 1: the bathroom? And did you catch my reference to Lady

1137
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 1: Gaga on the Stars Born? When I screamed? Not only

1138
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 1: did I catch the reference, I saw you talk to

1139
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:55,440
Speaker 1: Drone director, Drone Iconic director and say, well, this is

1140
01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 1: the Star is Born movement. And so I was. I

1141
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 1: was there, I witnessed the whole process of it, and

1142
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 1: I was so privileged. I I did think that day.

1143
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this is so fun, Like I

1144
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 1: get to act alongside man even you know what my

1145
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 1: favorite thing is when it's with someone you like the

1146
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 1: time in between setups, the time in between roles where

1147
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 1: you're just like two real people the goose but it's

1148
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 1: like your two real people and this like fake environment.

1149
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 1: But then the time just goes flying by when it's

1150
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 1: like you're with your best buddy, And I was like,

1151
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 1: this is fun. Honestly, I thought to myself, I need

1152
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 1: to get on the Matt Rodgers Bow and Yang projects

1153
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 1: that like are in my head because like this is like,

1154
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 1: this is the reason for the season. It was the

1155
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 1: reason for the season, not just Christmas season, but every

1156
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 1: season with my girl, with my garl. Okay, so now

1157
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 1: let's close out again this episode. Here we go, Okay,

1158
01:06:52,160 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 1: have yourself, have yourself us, make them you tie gat

1159
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 1: mm hmmmm. And the rest is a standard. You can

1160
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 1: listen to any of the girls sing up. They all

1161
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Speaker 1: cover to come on, bye Bye