1 00:00:04,428 --> 00:00:06,668 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in 2 00:00:06,748 --> 00:00:22,028 Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:22,388 --> 00:00:23,908 Speaker 2: Good Morning Football. 4 00:00:25,068 --> 00:00:28,268 Speaker 3: Hey, everybody, welcome to Good Morning Football, presented by Old 5 00:00:28,308 --> 00:00:30,548 Speaker 3: Trapper Beef Jerky live in New York City. 6 00:00:30,548 --> 00:00:32,708 Speaker 4: It's Wednesday, de Summer twenty seventh. I'm Jamie or at all. 7 00:00:32,868 --> 00:00:35,908 Speaker 3: There is Peter Trigger, there's Jas mccordy, and of course 8 00:00:36,028 --> 00:00:38,908 Speaker 3: our very own mister Dante Hall joining us today. What's 9 00:00:38,988 --> 00:00:41,668 Speaker 3: up Dante on? How does it feel to jump back in? 10 00:00:41,748 --> 00:00:43,748 Speaker 3: Do you feel timely with we allow to talk about 11 00:00:43,788 --> 00:00:44,308 Speaker 3: the Chiefs? 12 00:00:44,708 --> 00:00:47,348 Speaker 5: Yes, exactly, perfect time and to have me on because 13 00:00:47,348 --> 00:00:48,828 Speaker 5: I have a lot to say. 14 00:00:48,148 --> 00:00:52,188 Speaker 6: Oh, Peter, you got some stuff saying I'm gonna see 15 00:00:52,228 --> 00:00:55,428 Speaker 6: my timely exactly. 16 00:00:55,508 --> 00:00:56,188 Speaker 4: Okay, great. 17 00:00:56,388 --> 00:00:58,788 Speaker 3: They're hosting the Bengals this weekend, match up time for 18 00:00:58,788 --> 00:01:02,468 Speaker 3: the Lee block. The Chiefs lost a rough one on 19 00:01:02,548 --> 00:01:06,228 Speaker 3: Christmas Day. O'Connell, what was it? Peter Who's nine for 20 00:01:06,268 --> 00:01:08,948 Speaker 3: eleven after the first quarter and then did not complete 21 00:01:08,948 --> 00:01:11,348 Speaker 3: a pass in the subsequent three quarters, finished nine for 22 00:01:11,388 --> 00:01:11,908 Speaker 3: twenty one. 23 00:01:11,948 --> 00:01:14,788 Speaker 4: I think it was twenty two, wild bonkers numbers. 24 00:01:14,948 --> 00:01:16,708 Speaker 3: The Raiders still came away with a win and the 25 00:01:16,748 --> 00:01:19,268 Speaker 3: Chiefs lost their shot at the overall. 26 00:01:18,868 --> 00:01:19,868 Speaker 4: One seed in the AFC. 27 00:01:20,188 --> 00:01:23,068 Speaker 3: Here's James Palmer on what happened in Kansas City and 28 00:01:23,148 --> 00:01:24,748 Speaker 3: where this team goes from here. 29 00:01:26,468 --> 00:01:28,548 Speaker 7: After the Chiefs lost to the Raiders, the number one 30 00:01:28,588 --> 00:01:31,988 Speaker 7: word by Patrick Mahomes used was consistency. He said, we'll 31 00:01:31,988 --> 00:01:34,388 Speaker 7: have a good game, then a bad good game, bad game, 32 00:01:34,388 --> 00:01:37,108 Speaker 7: And obviously he mentioned you can't go through the postseason 33 00:01:37,148 --> 00:01:39,748 Speaker 7: and get very far playing like that, but also he 34 00:01:39,788 --> 00:01:42,588 Speaker 7: believes it's the consistency within games. They're struggling with a 35 00:01:42,628 --> 00:01:46,028 Speaker 7: dominant drive followed by a drive that stalls quickly, mostly 36 00:01:46,068 --> 00:01:49,308 Speaker 7: due to self inflicted wounds. Once again, this team had 37 00:01:49,628 --> 00:01:53,228 Speaker 7: six offensive drives that had penalties on them all six 38 00:01:53,268 --> 00:01:57,228 Speaker 7: of those drives resulted in zero points. But wide receiver 39 00:01:57,388 --> 00:01:59,588 Speaker 7: Justin Wattson put it even more bluntly. He said, it's 40 00:01:59,628 --> 00:02:02,788 Speaker 7: a lack of discipline within this offense. That's their issues 41 00:02:02,788 --> 00:02:07,708 Speaker 7: with route running, with reed, with alignments, with penalties, with assignments, 42 00:02:08,068 --> 00:02:10,268 Speaker 7: all of those issues on the offensive side of the ball. 43 00:02:10,308 --> 00:02:14,788 Speaker 7: Patrick Mahomes says, defenses aren't doing all that different of things. 44 00:02:14,948 --> 00:02:17,348 Speaker 7: They're just waiting for us to go out there and 45 00:02:17,388 --> 00:02:20,508 Speaker 7: make a mistake, and we're making mistakes. Now to get 46 00:02:20,548 --> 00:02:22,828 Speaker 7: back on track. Andy Reid has a short week to 47 00:02:22,828 --> 00:02:25,628 Speaker 7: get things together. This late in the season with Isaiah 48 00:02:25,628 --> 00:02:28,628 Speaker 7: Pacheco in the concussion protocol and Trey Smith dealing with 49 00:02:28,668 --> 00:02:31,468 Speaker 7: a calf injury. Not ideal when you have less time 50 00:02:31,508 --> 00:02:32,028 Speaker 7: to prepare. 51 00:02:34,308 --> 00:02:37,588 Speaker 3: Yep, that's the state of the nation, GP, thank you. 52 00:02:37,668 --> 00:02:39,748 Speaker 3: Here's what's left of the regular season for the Kansas 53 00:02:39,748 --> 00:02:41,988 Speaker 3: City Chiefs. They're going to host the Bengals, as I mentioned, 54 00:02:41,988 --> 00:02:44,828 Speaker 3: on a short week, and then week eighteen and they 55 00:02:44,828 --> 00:02:46,628 Speaker 3: go on the road and take on the Chargers. Now, 56 00:02:46,668 --> 00:02:48,868 Speaker 3: if you're the Los Angeles Chargers at this point, you're like, well, 57 00:02:48,868 --> 00:02:50,708 Speaker 3: we might have to jump on this bandwagon that the 58 00:02:50,788 --> 00:02:53,388 Speaker 3: Raiders are able to take advantage of in this division 59 00:02:53,428 --> 00:02:55,388 Speaker 3: and make things a little messy, if you will. 60 00:02:55,388 --> 00:02:56,628 Speaker 4: And that's where we go at Dante Hall. 61 00:02:56,668 --> 00:02:59,388 Speaker 3: First, the Chiefs, they've lost three of their last four. 62 00:02:59,628 --> 00:03:03,268 Speaker 3: Such a strange sentence that one win coming against the Patriots. 63 00:03:03,468 --> 00:03:05,348 Speaker 3: How do they turn things at this point? Are you 64 00:03:05,428 --> 00:03:08,868 Speaker 3: using the word salvage as it pertains to their season salvage. 65 00:03:08,868 --> 00:03:12,508 Speaker 5: I wouldn't say salvage. I would say not one particular word. 66 00:03:12,548 --> 00:03:15,068 Speaker 5: I would say this to Chiefs Kingdom. Everything would be 67 00:03:15,148 --> 00:03:16,948 Speaker 5: okay in the end, And. 68 00:03:16,908 --> 00:03:19,508 Speaker 2: If it's not okay, then it's not to end. What 69 00:03:19,548 --> 00:03:21,188 Speaker 2: does that mean? Stay positive? 70 00:03:21,348 --> 00:03:23,908 Speaker 5: Everything we want is still right in front of us 71 00:03:24,028 --> 00:03:26,388 Speaker 5: right now. We may have to swim through some swamps, 72 00:03:26,708 --> 00:03:29,108 Speaker 5: walk over some hot coals, but everything we want is 73 00:03:29,148 --> 00:03:31,108 Speaker 5: still right there in front of us. How do we 74 00:03:31,108 --> 00:03:33,948 Speaker 5: correct things? How do we salvage things? I think it 75 00:03:34,028 --> 00:03:37,588 Speaker 5: starts at the top with Matt Naggy. I don't really 76 00:03:37,588 --> 00:03:39,908 Speaker 5: know the guys, so this is all speculation. But what 77 00:03:40,028 --> 00:03:42,988 Speaker 5: I do know is this, When Eric b Enemy was there, 78 00:03:43,188 --> 00:03:46,188 Speaker 5: we didn't have this lack of discipline. We didn't have 79 00:03:46,228 --> 00:03:48,428 Speaker 5: guys not lining up. We didn't have guys. 80 00:03:48,188 --> 00:03:51,628 Speaker 2: Dropping a league leading twenty five passes. We had none 81 00:03:51,628 --> 00:03:54,268 Speaker 2: of this. So is it Naggy? Is it the enemy? 82 00:03:54,388 --> 00:03:56,068 Speaker 5: I don't know, but I would like to start there. 83 00:03:56,148 --> 00:03:58,708 Speaker 5: Starts at the top, right, you're the officer of coordinator. 84 00:03:58,948 --> 00:04:03,468 Speaker 5: You besides Jujuic Shoe Smithship leaving, are there only change 85 00:04:03,548 --> 00:04:06,108 Speaker 5: in the Super Bowl winning offense? So it must be 86 00:04:06,228 --> 00:04:10,028 Speaker 5: you get these guys in order. Secondly, Patrick Mahomes, I 87 00:04:10,068 --> 00:04:12,628 Speaker 5: love you, my favorite quarterback, but I think you need 88 00:04:12,668 --> 00:04:15,668 Speaker 5: to fall in love with the mundane. Yes, for five 89 00:04:15,748 --> 00:04:17,628 Speaker 5: years we have been used to the big players of 90 00:04:17,708 --> 00:04:19,108 Speaker 5: Toddy Reid to Kelsey and all of that. 91 00:04:19,348 --> 00:04:21,308 Speaker 2: It's time to be check down. 92 00:04:21,428 --> 00:04:25,068 Speaker 5: Tom Brady fall in love with the swing route, the checkdowns. 93 00:04:25,308 --> 00:04:28,348 Speaker 5: These players have been there for the taken and that's 94 00:04:28,388 --> 00:04:30,508 Speaker 5: pretty much what we need to get back to. Right 95 00:04:31,068 --> 00:04:33,188 Speaker 5: check down when it's their take it, don't look for 96 00:04:33,228 --> 00:04:34,988 Speaker 5: the big play, get a rhythm. 97 00:04:35,028 --> 00:04:37,468 Speaker 2: If it's a checkdown, throw it to him. 98 00:04:37,748 --> 00:04:40,628 Speaker 5: And then the last thing I'll end on this body 99 00:04:40,748 --> 00:04:44,708 Speaker 5: language is everything. When you are screaming and yelling at 100 00:04:44,788 --> 00:04:49,628 Speaker 5: your players, that permeates negatively. When you have what you 101 00:04:49,708 --> 00:04:52,188 Speaker 5: have had in the first five years, that poker face, 102 00:04:52,588 --> 00:04:55,868 Speaker 5: we know we're gonna win and center end, that permeates positively. 103 00:04:56,108 --> 00:04:58,628 Speaker 5: Get back to being positive. And now, so you know 104 00:04:59,508 --> 00:05:01,148 Speaker 5: on the sideline with your guys, you're at. 105 00:05:01,108 --> 00:05:03,748 Speaker 6: Home on Christmas Day, obviously a chief sledgend and you're 106 00:05:03,788 --> 00:05:07,108 Speaker 6: watching Kelsey throw his helmet in my home, screaming at 107 00:05:07,108 --> 00:05:08,388 Speaker 6: the lineman and then not giving up out of the 108 00:05:08,428 --> 00:05:10,188 Speaker 6: bacause screaming the linement and then moving on to that. 109 00:05:10,428 --> 00:05:11,988 Speaker 5: You know what I thought about, Yeah, it's like my 110 00:05:12,028 --> 00:05:14,548 Speaker 5: little kids running around here on Christmas Day. We've got 111 00:05:14,548 --> 00:05:18,028 Speaker 5: your Christmas tree full of presents and you're acting like 112 00:05:18,068 --> 00:05:18,988 Speaker 5: spail little breaks. 113 00:05:19,348 --> 00:05:20,068 Speaker 2: These guys know. 114 00:05:20,108 --> 00:05:22,508 Speaker 5: I love them, so as a friend, as a brother, 115 00:05:22,668 --> 00:05:24,428 Speaker 5: I have to call you out. This is not a 116 00:05:24,428 --> 00:05:24,988 Speaker 5: good look. 117 00:05:25,148 --> 00:05:26,628 Speaker 2: I'm watching a game with my kids. 118 00:05:26,828 --> 00:05:29,868 Speaker 5: My daughter loves Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelcey and you're 119 00:05:29,908 --> 00:05:30,588 Speaker 5: acting like that. 120 00:05:30,668 --> 00:05:32,868 Speaker 2: Come on, guys, be better, and I think the team 121 00:05:32,868 --> 00:05:33,388 Speaker 2: would be better. 122 00:05:33,388 --> 00:05:36,188 Speaker 3: A couple weeks ago, we saw Patrick Mahomes really begin 123 00:05:36,308 --> 00:05:38,428 Speaker 3: this behavior that we had not seen from him before 124 00:05:38,508 --> 00:05:40,308 Speaker 3: at the end of the game with the call that 125 00:05:40,428 --> 00:05:41,948 Speaker 3: was not a call, and then he had to walk 126 00:05:41,948 --> 00:05:43,628 Speaker 3: it back a little bit A couple of days later. 127 00:05:43,908 --> 00:05:46,428 Speaker 3: Do you find that this body language maybe started then 128 00:05:46,548 --> 00:05:48,788 Speaker 3: with him just his frustrations and everything. 129 00:05:48,548 --> 00:05:50,108 Speaker 2: That's come out for And be honest, I watch a 130 00:05:50,148 --> 00:05:52,308 Speaker 2: lot of sports shows. I watch you, guys, a lot 131 00:05:52,348 --> 00:05:52,828 Speaker 2: of shows. 132 00:05:52,868 --> 00:05:55,828 Speaker 5: I felt like the first thirteen weeks he was trying 133 00:05:55,828 --> 00:05:58,868 Speaker 5: to protect his guys, right, everyone knew what the issue was, 134 00:05:58,908 --> 00:06:00,188 Speaker 5: and he was trying to protect his guys. 135 00:06:00,188 --> 00:06:03,148 Speaker 2: And then the media starts saying, no, call these guys out. 136 00:06:03,308 --> 00:06:05,508 Speaker 5: I can't say for suit only he knows, but it 137 00:06:05,548 --> 00:06:07,828 Speaker 5: seems like as the chirps got louder for him to 138 00:06:07,868 --> 00:06:10,548 Speaker 5: call these guys out, he started calling these guys out. 139 00:06:10,668 --> 00:06:13,588 Speaker 6: Well, that was part of bienne Me's role in kids. Yes, 140 00:06:14,028 --> 00:06:17,948 Speaker 6: he was an accountability guy. Bienemy was a disciplinarian. He 141 00:06:18,028 --> 00:06:20,548 Speaker 6: was not everyone's best friend. We've had Lashawn McCoy on 142 00:06:20,588 --> 00:06:23,428 Speaker 6: this very show saying he wasn't the warm and fuzzy 143 00:06:23,468 --> 00:06:26,068 Speaker 6: type and he and I didn't jail necessarily. That was 144 00:06:26,108 --> 00:06:28,108 Speaker 6: what Bienname's role was. He was the bad guy in 145 00:06:28,148 --> 00:06:30,068 Speaker 6: a lot of ways. Andy was the good guy, and 146 00:06:30,148 --> 00:06:32,508 Speaker 6: here it is and Pat and then Eric Banemy would 147 00:06:32,548 --> 00:06:32,788 Speaker 6: come in and. 148 00:06:32,788 --> 00:06:33,548 Speaker 2: Tell you like it was. 149 00:06:33,948 --> 00:06:35,748 Speaker 6: I think they do miss that. I think that someone 150 00:06:35,828 --> 00:06:37,548 Speaker 6: needs to fill that role. I think that's a real 151 00:06:37,628 --> 00:06:40,108 Speaker 6: spot in a coaching staff. Someone who's not just gonna 152 00:06:40,108 --> 00:06:41,788 Speaker 6: be your best pals, someone who's gonna go there and 153 00:06:41,788 --> 00:06:43,588 Speaker 6: tell you what you're doing wrong and then hold you 154 00:06:43,668 --> 00:06:46,348 Speaker 6: accountable for it. I also will go back to this. 155 00:06:46,428 --> 00:06:48,828 Speaker 6: They have a second ranked defense in the league. They're 156 00:06:48,908 --> 00:06:51,548 Speaker 6: going to be in these games. They also have a 157 00:06:51,548 --> 00:06:54,148 Speaker 6: Hall of Fame quarterback, a Hall of Fame tight end, 158 00:06:54,468 --> 00:06:56,268 Speaker 6: and a Hall of Fame first ballot head coach. 159 00:06:56,468 --> 00:06:58,188 Speaker 2: I wouldn't write him off yet. Oh way. 160 00:06:58,508 --> 00:07:00,988 Speaker 6: Their defense is not like the old Chiefs defense where 161 00:07:00,988 --> 00:07:02,468 Speaker 6: they give it up thirty five points. You have to 162 00:07:02,468 --> 00:07:05,428 Speaker 6: pray that Mahome saves a day. Their defense is clearly 163 00:07:05,468 --> 00:07:07,708 Speaker 6: the better unit this season. So that is a nice 164 00:07:07,788 --> 00:07:09,708 Speaker 6: luxury to have. If they get in a playoff game 165 00:07:09,748 --> 00:07:11,308 Speaker 6: and it's on the road in Baltimore, if it's on 166 00:07:11,308 --> 00:07:13,228 Speaker 6: the road in Miami and it's a divisional round, or 167 00:07:13,268 --> 00:07:14,748 Speaker 6: even in the first round they have to host a 168 00:07:14,748 --> 00:07:17,348 Speaker 6: Buffaloer Cleveland, it's going to be a one score game. 169 00:07:17,468 --> 00:07:19,948 Speaker 6: Are you picking against Mahomes, Kelsey and Reed in that 170 00:07:19,988 --> 00:07:21,948 Speaker 6: situation based on what they've been through in over its 171 00:07:22,028 --> 00:07:23,588 Speaker 6: recent januaries, I'm not sure. 172 00:07:23,628 --> 00:07:23,868 Speaker 2: I am. 173 00:07:23,908 --> 00:07:25,628 Speaker 6: As much as I love Tua and Tyreek, and as 174 00:07:25,708 --> 00:07:28,028 Speaker 6: much as I love what Lamar and Todd Munkin have 175 00:07:28,148 --> 00:07:30,988 Speaker 6: going on, if it's a one score game in January 176 00:07:31,028 --> 00:07:32,668 Speaker 6: and it's on the road or if it's at home, 177 00:07:32,868 --> 00:07:35,988 Speaker 6: I might still be taking Mahomes and Kelsey and Reed 178 00:07:36,268 --> 00:07:38,628 Speaker 6: just because of the institutional knowledge they have and the 179 00:07:38,708 --> 00:07:40,628 Speaker 6: defense is the reason why they're going to keep them 180 00:07:40,628 --> 00:07:41,188 Speaker 6: in that game. 181 00:07:41,548 --> 00:07:42,788 Speaker 2: So is it salvageable? 182 00:07:43,188 --> 00:07:46,508 Speaker 6: Yes, does someone need to start making sure everyone takes accountability. Yes, 183 00:07:46,508 --> 00:07:48,228 Speaker 6: so they have to get in a rhythm, of course. 184 00:07:48,388 --> 00:07:51,508 Speaker 6: But the season is absolutely still salvageable. They're a playoff team. 185 00:07:51,308 --> 00:07:51,948 Speaker 2: No doubt about it. 186 00:07:51,948 --> 00:07:53,548 Speaker 8: And I don't know if i'm picking in with the 187 00:07:53,548 --> 00:07:55,388 Speaker 8: way they've played as of late. You just said they've 188 00:07:55,428 --> 00:07:57,188 Speaker 8: lost three out of their last four, the only win 189 00:07:57,468 --> 00:08:00,348 Speaker 8: coming against annoying the Patriots, a team that is struggling 190 00:08:00,628 --> 00:08:03,028 Speaker 8: this season. As you look at this Chiefs offense, and 191 00:08:03,068 --> 00:08:05,988 Speaker 8: you talked about mahomes frustration. We saw Andy Reeve's frustration 192 00:08:06,308 --> 00:08:08,988 Speaker 8: at the end of that Buffalo Bills game. The Mahomes frustration, 193 00:08:09,188 --> 00:08:11,028 Speaker 8: I think it just has to do with the build up. 194 00:08:11,068 --> 00:08:13,508 Speaker 8: You talked about your kids on Christmas morning. When they 195 00:08:13,548 --> 00:08:15,628 Speaker 8: first start running wild, You're like, all right, kids, like 196 00:08:15,668 --> 00:08:18,108 Speaker 8: you understand it's Christmas, so you give them a little leeway. 197 00:08:18,148 --> 00:08:18,828 Speaker 2: But it gets to the. 198 00:08:18,748 --> 00:08:21,348 Speaker 8: Point where it's just like Iten told y'all ten times 199 00:08:21,388 --> 00:08:23,428 Speaker 8: now to go sit down, and they still haven't done it. 200 00:08:23,628 --> 00:08:26,388 Speaker 8: For Mahomes for thirteen weeks, I've done what I've always 201 00:08:26,428 --> 00:08:28,428 Speaker 8: done as the leader of this team. I've taken all 202 00:08:28,508 --> 00:08:30,628 Speaker 8: the blame. It gets to the point where you've given 203 00:08:30,668 --> 00:08:33,468 Speaker 8: those guys that time to grow into their roles, and 204 00:08:33,548 --> 00:08:35,788 Speaker 8: to your point where you're making mistakes like motions that 205 00:08:35,828 --> 00:08:38,548 Speaker 8: we've talked about with Darius, Tony shifts and different things 206 00:08:38,548 --> 00:08:40,908 Speaker 8: not aligning the right way. Those are the things that 207 00:08:40,948 --> 00:08:43,228 Speaker 8: are unforced errors that we have to take advantage of. 208 00:08:43,308 --> 00:08:44,708 Speaker 2: We can't have those mistakes. 209 00:08:44,788 --> 00:08:46,708 Speaker 8: So I think the homes of what we're seeing on 210 00:08:46,748 --> 00:08:49,388 Speaker 8: the sideline is just a culmination. As we get closer 211 00:08:49,428 --> 00:08:51,188 Speaker 8: to the end and you haven't figured this thing out, 212 00:08:51,348 --> 00:08:53,588 Speaker 8: we're running out of time, Like I have to show 213 00:08:53,588 --> 00:08:56,028 Speaker 8: you guys a different side because what we've been doing 214 00:08:56,068 --> 00:08:58,868 Speaker 8: it isn't working because we're not in a position to succeed. 215 00:08:59,028 --> 00:08:59,828 Speaker 2: And as I look at. 216 00:08:59,708 --> 00:09:02,548 Speaker 8: The Chiefs offense, you have to rely on the running 217 00:09:02,588 --> 00:09:05,188 Speaker 8: back room. This chief's office isn't what has been the 218 00:09:05,268 --> 00:09:08,028 Speaker 8: last few years. Whereas Mahomes throwing the ball around, Kelsey 219 00:09:08,108 --> 00:09:11,748 Speaker 8: getting open backyard football, as Mahomes is scrambling and making plays, 220 00:09:11,828 --> 00:09:14,868 Speaker 8: put Checko's in concussion protocol. Hopefully he's healthy he gets 221 00:09:14,908 --> 00:09:17,348 Speaker 8: back out there. Clyde Edwards Hilaire against the New England 222 00:09:17,348 --> 00:09:20,868 Speaker 8: Patriots went off and the absence of Pachecko. You have 223 00:09:20,948 --> 00:09:23,268 Speaker 8: Jack McKinnon to kind of do it all back. You 224 00:09:23,348 --> 00:09:24,868 Speaker 8: have to take the ball out of the hands of 225 00:09:24,908 --> 00:09:26,988 Speaker 8: Mahomes every single play and asking him to do so 226 00:09:27,068 --> 00:09:29,268 Speaker 8: much because they don't have the supporting cast for him 227 00:09:29,268 --> 00:09:32,148 Speaker 8: to do that. We've witnessed that for the last several weeks. 228 00:09:32,348 --> 00:09:34,828 Speaker 8: Hand the ball off and play good defense. That is 229 00:09:34,868 --> 00:09:36,748 Speaker 8: the formula to me for this team to get to 230 00:09:36,788 --> 00:09:38,948 Speaker 8: where they want to get because the running back room 231 00:09:39,068 --> 00:09:42,068 Speaker 8: is where the reliable players are. So go to those 232 00:09:42,108 --> 00:09:45,308 Speaker 8: guys laid down the stretch. We've had sixteen seventeen weeks 233 00:09:45,348 --> 00:09:47,748 Speaker 8: now to develop who our guys are. You know who 234 00:09:47,828 --> 00:09:49,868 Speaker 8: they are, Get them the ball and let them do 235 00:09:49,908 --> 00:09:53,588 Speaker 8: the whiteouts. It's not them maybe next year maybe too. 236 00:09:53,828 --> 00:09:54,308 Speaker 2: Like a lot of. 237 00:09:54,268 --> 00:09:57,428 Speaker 6: Patriots teams, it wasn't the whiteouts, was Kronk, and it 238 00:09:57,428 --> 00:09:58,188 Speaker 6: was the running backs. 239 00:09:58,188 --> 00:09:59,628 Speaker 8: And you found a way to put the ball in 240 00:09:59,668 --> 00:10:03,228 Speaker 8: those guys' hands and dominate and lean lean on the defense. 241 00:10:03,228 --> 00:10:05,668 Speaker 2: It's okay, you said it, really good. It's okay to 242 00:10:05,708 --> 00:10:06,748 Speaker 2: be a defensive. 243 00:10:06,308 --> 00:10:08,068 Speaker 4: Team and rely on those backs as well. 244 00:10:08,108 --> 00:10:10,228 Speaker 3: To Dante's point, if you want to play the checkdown game, 245 00:10:10,348 --> 00:10:12,628 Speaker 3: like get through the line, turn around to be available 246 00:10:12,668 --> 00:10:13,068 Speaker 3: to your guy. 247 00:10:13,108 --> 00:10:15,708 Speaker 4: Ian wrapped four, Good morning to you again. Grab sheet. 248 00:10:15,828 --> 00:10:18,268 Speaker 4: Latest on the quarterback news this morning. 249 00:10:18,668 --> 00:10:21,068 Speaker 3: It's unfortunately a position group that we have talked about 250 00:10:21,068 --> 00:10:22,108 Speaker 3: all too much this season. 251 00:10:22,668 --> 00:10:25,788 Speaker 9: Yeah, no doubt the season of the backup quarterback. And 252 00:10:25,868 --> 00:10:28,348 Speaker 9: there may actually be a situation like that for the 253 00:10:28,468 --> 00:10:31,988 Speaker 9: Jacksonville Jaguars this week. Trevor Lawrence has about there several 254 00:10:31,988 --> 00:10:34,308 Speaker 9: different injuries this year. Has always been out there to 255 00:10:34,308 --> 00:10:38,108 Speaker 9: play basically no matter what, even improbably like last week 256 00:10:38,148 --> 00:10:40,948 Speaker 9: dealing with the concussion getting cleared late. We'll see if 257 00:10:40,948 --> 00:10:44,028 Speaker 9: this week follows suit. He is dealing with a shoulder sprain. 258 00:10:44,188 --> 00:10:46,708 Speaker 9: Right shoulder splay sprain. You saw it right there, going 259 00:10:46,748 --> 00:10:49,228 Speaker 9: down hard on the sideline. He has not yet been 260 00:10:49,308 --> 00:10:51,668 Speaker 9: ruled out. Doesn't sounding like he's going to practice today though. 261 00:10:51,748 --> 00:10:53,588 Speaker 9: If you want to read the tea leaves on this one, 262 00:10:53,868 --> 00:10:56,308 Speaker 9: let me give them to you. Matt Barkley was signed 263 00:10:56,348 --> 00:10:59,148 Speaker 9: off the Giants practice squad to go on the Jacksonville 264 00:10:59,228 --> 00:11:02,468 Speaker 9: Jaguars active roster. Generally a move you make if you 265 00:11:02,588 --> 00:11:04,548 Speaker 9: believe he's going to be active. In other words, if 266 00:11:04,588 --> 00:11:06,828 Speaker 9: you believe he's going to be the backup quarterback. That 267 00:11:06,868 --> 00:11:10,908 Speaker 9: would indicate CJ. Bethard starting this week for the Jaguars. 268 00:11:10,428 --> 00:11:12,748 Speaker 2: Though there's been an official word of that. 269 00:11:12,828 --> 00:11:15,588 Speaker 9: Meanwhile, we do official word from the Pittsburgh Steelers on 270 00:11:15,668 --> 00:11:18,308 Speaker 9: their starting quarterback. It's going to be Mason Rudolph once 271 00:11:18,348 --> 00:11:20,748 Speaker 9: again this week, coming off maybe one of the best 272 00:11:20,748 --> 00:11:23,348 Speaker 9: starts of his career two hundred and ninety passing yards 273 00:11:23,508 --> 00:11:27,068 Speaker 9: two touchdowns. Mike tom announcing yesterday that they're preceding this 274 00:11:27,108 --> 00:11:29,948 Speaker 9: week as if he is the starter. Kenny Pickett was 275 00:11:29,948 --> 00:11:32,868 Speaker 9: expected to be healthy enough to play, definitely not one 276 00:11:32,948 --> 00:11:35,708 Speaker 9: hundred percent, but healthy enough to play this week. But 277 00:11:35,748 --> 00:11:38,228 Speaker 9: it does seem like, barring some sort of change, the 278 00:11:38,228 --> 00:11:40,828 Speaker 9: Steelers are going with the hot hand here. And then 279 00:11:40,868 --> 00:11:42,828 Speaker 9: we still do not know who the quarterback of the 280 00:11:42,868 --> 00:11:47,108 Speaker 9: Minnesota Vikings is going to be. Nick Mullens really struggled 281 00:11:47,428 --> 00:11:50,108 Speaker 9: last week with interceptions actually the last two weeks, six 282 00:11:50,188 --> 00:11:53,388 Speaker 9: picks in two games. Despite a ton of big plays 283 00:11:53,708 --> 00:11:56,108 Speaker 9: a lot of strikes down the field, still turn the 284 00:11:56,148 --> 00:11:58,348 Speaker 9: ball over a little too much. Vikings have not yet 285 00:11:58,428 --> 00:12:01,348 Speaker 9: announced whether it's going to be Mullens or whether it's 286 00:12:01,348 --> 00:12:03,508 Speaker 9: going to be rookie Jaren Hall this week. 287 00:12:04,988 --> 00:12:06,628 Speaker 3: Well, and all you have to go off of is 288 00:12:06,708 --> 00:12:09,348 Speaker 3: the singular start and appearance that Jaron Hall had in 289 00:12:09,388 --> 00:12:12,468 Speaker 3: November before he suffered that concussion, So you might as 290 00:12:12,468 --> 00:12:14,548 Speaker 3: well give the rookie a look. But why you find 291 00:12:14,548 --> 00:12:16,988 Speaker 3: yourself with the Vikings in this position again not knowing 292 00:12:16,988 --> 00:12:19,108 Speaker 3: who the quarterback is going to be is so frustrating. 293 00:12:19,188 --> 00:12:21,148 Speaker 4: Raps Sheet, thank you. I have a question. 294 00:12:21,668 --> 00:12:24,348 Speaker 3: Who do you think will take one step closer to 295 00:12:24,428 --> 00:12:26,828 Speaker 3: being enshrined into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. 296 00:12:26,988 --> 00:12:28,628 Speaker 4: You can find out tonight. 297 00:12:28,548 --> 00:12:31,668 Speaker 3: As the fifteen Modern era finalists of the Class of 298 00:12:31,668 --> 00:12:35,188 Speaker 3: twenty twenty four will be revealed. The Gold jacket finalists 299 00:12:35,228 --> 00:12:39,108 Speaker 3: APM Eastern exclusively seen right here on NFL Network and 300 00:12:39,268 --> 00:12:41,548 Speaker 3: you can stream it on NFL Plus. 301 00:12:41,548 --> 00:12:43,148 Speaker 4: That's about still to. 302 00:12:43,068 --> 00:12:45,268 Speaker 3: Come on our show, the one in two seeds in 303 00:12:45,308 --> 00:12:47,388 Speaker 3: the AFC. We can't stop talking about him. They're going 304 00:12:47,428 --> 00:12:50,628 Speaker 3: head to head in week seventeen early matchup inspection. 305 00:12:50,828 --> 00:12:51,268 Speaker 4: Later on. 306 00:13:03,348 --> 00:13:04,628 Speaker 2: Good Morning. 307 00:13:06,108 --> 00:13:08,268 Speaker 10: Our next guest, the dear friend of the show. He's 308 00:13:08,308 --> 00:13:11,748 Speaker 10: the executive director of the Race's Senior Bowl. Guess what 309 00:13:11,948 --> 00:13:14,348 Speaker 10: the Senior Ball is just a month away. Let's welcome 310 00:13:14,388 --> 00:13:17,748 Speaker 10: back to Good Morning Football. Our buddy Jim Naggy, Joe Jim. 311 00:13:19,108 --> 00:13:19,788 Speaker 11: Morning, guys. 312 00:13:19,868 --> 00:13:21,948 Speaker 6: We are so excited to have you on because Senior 313 00:13:21,948 --> 00:13:25,188 Speaker 6: bowlt invites are out and we're already getting guys committed 314 00:13:25,188 --> 00:13:28,388 Speaker 6: to the game. If you follow the college sport, you 315 00:13:28,508 --> 00:13:30,788 Speaker 6: know a lot of these names and we are excited 316 00:13:30,828 --> 00:13:32,628 Speaker 6: to announce some of them. Here. Give us some of 317 00:13:32,668 --> 00:13:35,948 Speaker 6: the big names and future NFL stars that we could 318 00:13:35,988 --> 00:13:38,548 Speaker 6: be watching a month from now at the Senior Bowl. 319 00:13:38,708 --> 00:13:39,748 Speaker 11: Well, Peter, let's do this. 320 00:13:39,948 --> 00:13:42,308 Speaker 12: Let's just stay in the college football playoff. Let's talk 321 00:13:42,308 --> 00:13:45,748 Speaker 12: about Monday's games. You start with Alabama Chris Braswell and 322 00:13:46,348 --> 00:13:50,148 Speaker 12: Dallas Turner, the two ed rushers that combined for eighteen sacks. 323 00:13:49,788 --> 00:13:52,068 Speaker 11: This year, two really high end players. 324 00:13:52,108 --> 00:13:54,988 Speaker 12: Go to the Michigan team, You've got Chris Jenkins, whose 325 00:13:55,068 --> 00:13:57,668 Speaker 12: dad was a great player in the league at defensive tackle. 326 00:13:58,108 --> 00:14:00,868 Speaker 12: Chris is kind of following his footsteps. But if you 327 00:14:00,908 --> 00:14:03,788 Speaker 12: go to the Texas Washington matchup, take your eyes off 328 00:14:03,828 --> 00:14:06,908 Speaker 12: Michael Penn junior, the quarterback for Washington for a little bit. 329 00:14:07,068 --> 00:14:09,628 Speaker 11: Watch the left tackle Troy Fatanu might. 330 00:14:09,468 --> 00:14:12,748 Speaker 12: Be the first interior offensive lineman drafted this year. And 331 00:14:12,788 --> 00:14:16,028 Speaker 12: then Texas inside duo you got Byron Murphy, who's kind 332 00:14:16,028 --> 00:14:19,988 Speaker 12: of like a Grady Jarrett. Undersized, really active and powerful player, 333 00:14:20,068 --> 00:14:22,508 Speaker 12: hard to block and to Andandre Sweat. You can't miss 334 00:14:22,588 --> 00:14:25,388 Speaker 12: Devandrea when you turn on the TV. Massive space eater, 335 00:14:25,508 --> 00:14:28,428 Speaker 12: three hundred and sixty five pounds, and he's made a 336 00:14:28,508 --> 00:14:30,868 Speaker 12: huge jump this year. A year ago, he didn't get 337 00:14:30,868 --> 00:14:33,148 Speaker 12: a senior woollingvite. He was probably a fifth or sixth 338 00:14:33,228 --> 00:14:35,708 Speaker 12: round draft pick if he came out last year. You 339 00:14:35,748 --> 00:14:38,068 Speaker 12: know returns this year has a monster year. He has 340 00:14:38,148 --> 00:14:40,908 Speaker 12: probably no worse than a second round draft pick. So 341 00:14:41,108 --> 00:14:44,428 Speaker 12: some really good trench matchups in this college football playoff games. 342 00:14:44,668 --> 00:14:46,748 Speaker 3: Jim, are you going to be going to the Rose 343 00:14:46,748 --> 00:14:49,628 Speaker 3: Bowl for the New Year's as for work or for pleasure? 344 00:14:49,988 --> 00:14:52,428 Speaker 11: Well, it's a house divided at the Naggie House. My 345 00:14:52,468 --> 00:14:53,468 Speaker 11: wife Sabam mcgrad. 346 00:14:53,508 --> 00:14:55,708 Speaker 12: I'm a Michigan grad, so we probably should be going 347 00:14:55,708 --> 00:14:57,588 Speaker 12: out for that one. But I'm going to be going 348 00:14:57,588 --> 00:15:00,228 Speaker 12: out to LA for our Senior Bowl roster reveal special 349 00:15:00,268 --> 00:15:02,068 Speaker 12: the next week, So i just didn't want to make 350 00:15:02,108 --> 00:15:04,068 Speaker 12: that flight two weeks in a row, so I've tapped 351 00:15:04,068 --> 00:15:05,348 Speaker 12: out of the Well I should be. 352 00:15:05,308 --> 00:15:08,868 Speaker 4: There though, makes perfect sense. God bless you and your marriage. 353 00:15:08,868 --> 00:15:11,388 Speaker 3: That week leading up to the game, you mentioned it 354 00:15:11,468 --> 00:15:12,388 Speaker 3: this last month that. 355 00:15:12,388 --> 00:15:14,148 Speaker 4: There is a new look to the Senior Bowl. 356 00:15:14,188 --> 00:15:17,108 Speaker 3: This new rule allows underclassmen to play as well. 357 00:15:17,388 --> 00:15:18,908 Speaker 4: How much extra work. 358 00:15:18,708 --> 00:15:21,668 Speaker 3: Has that put on your committee and how different has 359 00:15:21,668 --> 00:15:23,748 Speaker 3: this month been compared to past years. 360 00:15:24,628 --> 00:15:27,188 Speaker 12: Well, besides cranking up the star power of the game, 361 00:15:27,188 --> 00:15:29,508 Speaker 12: which is is great, it's great for us, it's great 362 00:15:29,508 --> 00:15:31,868 Speaker 12: for the network, you know, and ratings soapfully, it has 363 00:15:31,948 --> 00:15:34,388 Speaker 12: changed our process a little bit, for sure. It's made 364 00:15:34,428 --> 00:15:36,988 Speaker 12: it a lot more fluid. Most years at this time, 365 00:15:37,028 --> 00:15:39,308 Speaker 12: we're really locked into our roster. We feel really good 366 00:15:39,308 --> 00:15:41,388 Speaker 12: about where we're at this year. It's just you know, 367 00:15:41,428 --> 00:15:44,068 Speaker 12: a lot more communication with the agent community trying to 368 00:15:44,068 --> 00:15:46,148 Speaker 12: figure out which kids are staying in, which guys are 369 00:15:46,188 --> 00:15:46,628 Speaker 12: coming out. 370 00:15:46,908 --> 00:15:48,948 Speaker 11: So it's just it's just more fluid. 371 00:15:48,708 --> 00:15:50,708 Speaker 12: And we're gonna have to work through the Bowl games 372 00:15:50,708 --> 00:15:52,028 Speaker 12: when these guys start declaring. 373 00:15:52,108 --> 00:15:55,308 Speaker 11: So if they do declare, we're ready with an invite, Jim. 374 00:15:55,468 --> 00:15:59,028 Speaker 5: The Senior Bowl has had Gratussis and a selection of 375 00:15:59,068 --> 00:16:03,228 Speaker 5: wide receivers Poka, the core receive, Rice Tangdale, Tayan read 376 00:16:03,348 --> 00:16:05,148 Speaker 5: just the name a few. All were part of the 377 00:16:05,188 --> 00:16:08,068 Speaker 5: twenty twenty three Senior Ball Week. Is it a formula 378 00:16:08,188 --> 00:16:11,268 Speaker 5: for picking the right wide receivers or is it a 379 00:16:11,308 --> 00:16:13,948 Speaker 5: case of the wide eyes having something to prove to 380 00:16:14,028 --> 00:16:15,548 Speaker 5: general managers and coaches. 381 00:16:16,228 --> 00:16:17,268 Speaker 11: That's a great question. 382 00:16:17,548 --> 00:16:19,828 Speaker 12: I do think the wide outs are starting to see 383 00:16:19,828 --> 00:16:21,708 Speaker 12: a lot of value in the game. I think you're 384 00:16:21,708 --> 00:16:25,468 Speaker 12: seeing guys like Cooper Cuff and Deebo Samuel and Terry McLaurin. 385 00:16:25,508 --> 00:16:26,828 Speaker 11: I mean, there's been a number of guys that have 386 00:16:26,908 --> 00:16:29,188 Speaker 11: come down here. So yeah, you're seeing Puka, you're seeing 387 00:16:29,268 --> 00:16:32,028 Speaker 11: Rashi Tank Dell had a great week. But I you know, 388 00:16:32,068 --> 00:16:33,428 Speaker 11: I got to give a lot of credit to our 389 00:16:33,468 --> 00:16:34,228 Speaker 11: scouting staff. 390 00:16:34,508 --> 00:16:36,428 Speaker 12: They put a lot of work in one of the 391 00:16:36,428 --> 00:16:38,508 Speaker 12: guys you didn't mention who's having a great year there 392 00:16:38,548 --> 00:16:39,188 Speaker 12: with Jayden Reed. 393 00:16:39,228 --> 00:16:40,988 Speaker 11: His teammate is don Tavian Wicks. 394 00:16:41,308 --> 00:16:42,908 Speaker 12: He's having a great second half of the year for 395 00:16:42,948 --> 00:16:45,228 Speaker 12: the Green Bay Packers. And again he's a guy that 396 00:16:45,308 --> 00:16:47,308 Speaker 12: his junior year had he come out looked like a 397 00:16:47,308 --> 00:16:49,268 Speaker 12: second round draft pick. You know, then they had a 398 00:16:49,308 --> 00:16:51,988 Speaker 12: coaching change, his senior wasn't as good, and we decided 399 00:16:52,028 --> 00:16:53,788 Speaker 12: to we had to go back to that junior year 400 00:16:53,868 --> 00:16:56,108 Speaker 12: work So again, a lot of credit to our scouting 401 00:16:56,108 --> 00:16:58,468 Speaker 12: staff that puts in a lot of time watching these Whiteouts. 402 00:16:58,468 --> 00:17:00,788 Speaker 12: And I do think there's a buying factor now from 403 00:17:00,788 --> 00:17:03,028 Speaker 12: the white Outs knowing they can come down here and 404 00:17:03,068 --> 00:17:04,788 Speaker 12: get in front of these gms and had coaches. 405 00:17:05,188 --> 00:17:06,988 Speaker 8: Yeah, and they're hitting the ground running when they get 406 00:17:07,028 --> 00:17:09,828 Speaker 8: to the NFL teams. But in order to stop those guys, 407 00:17:09,828 --> 00:17:12,468 Speaker 8: you got to get the right defensive backs on your team. 408 00:17:12,508 --> 00:17:13,748 Speaker 8: So I want to talk to you a little about 409 00:17:13,828 --> 00:17:17,188 Speaker 8: defense and specifically in the secondary. Talk to me about 410 00:17:17,188 --> 00:17:19,468 Speaker 8: this class, not only about the corners on the outside, 411 00:17:19,468 --> 00:17:21,188 Speaker 8: but about guys that are going to be playing in 412 00:17:21,228 --> 00:17:23,748 Speaker 8: the slot, covering the guys like the Cooper Cups and 413 00:17:23,748 --> 00:17:24,668 Speaker 8: the poop and the coolest. 414 00:17:25,068 --> 00:17:27,428 Speaker 11: I knew you'd go there with the DB's, I love it. Yeah, 415 00:17:27,428 --> 00:17:29,148 Speaker 11: a lot of a lot of nickel size guys in 416 00:17:29,148 --> 00:17:31,108 Speaker 11: this year's draft. And the first guy would talk about 417 00:17:31,148 --> 00:17:33,948 Speaker 11: if we're just gonna stay in the CFP is Michigan's 418 00:17:33,988 --> 00:17:36,628 Speaker 11: Mikey Saintrastril. He's a guy that you know. 419 00:17:36,748 --> 00:17:38,748 Speaker 12: Back in my time with the New England Patriots, we 420 00:17:38,788 --> 00:17:40,828 Speaker 12: had a guy named Troy Brown who was a wide 421 00:17:40,868 --> 00:17:43,508 Speaker 12: receiver by trade, in one year had to come over 422 00:17:43,548 --> 00:17:45,388 Speaker 12: and play some nickel for us, and I think he 423 00:17:45,468 --> 00:17:47,508 Speaker 12: ended up leading the team in interceptions that year. 424 00:17:47,788 --> 00:17:49,388 Speaker 11: You know, Troy was one of the all time best. 425 00:17:49,628 --> 00:17:52,628 Speaker 12: Mikey actually started his career at ann Arbor at wide receiver. 426 00:17:53,028 --> 00:17:54,988 Speaker 11: Now they've moved him to dB and he said five 427 00:17:55,028 --> 00:17:56,108 Speaker 11: interceptions this year. 428 00:17:56,268 --> 00:17:58,388 Speaker 12: You know, he's a baller. He's a baller. That's what 429 00:17:58,468 --> 00:18:00,348 Speaker 12: you can say about most of these good nickels. And 430 00:18:00,388 --> 00:18:02,228 Speaker 12: then and then on the Texas side, they have a 431 00:18:02,228 --> 00:18:04,708 Speaker 12: guy named Jedai Baron. If you guys remember back in 432 00:18:04,708 --> 00:18:06,868 Speaker 12: the eighties of singer Shah Day. I heard that his 433 00:18:07,028 --> 00:18:09,468 Speaker 12: mom was such a fan that she named her son 434 00:18:09,588 --> 00:18:11,788 Speaker 12: Ja Day and he's like saying her still. You know 435 00:18:11,828 --> 00:18:14,228 Speaker 12: that front seven for Texas gets a lot of love. 436 00:18:14,348 --> 00:18:16,548 Speaker 12: In the secondary doesn't get as much credit. But Johnny 437 00:18:16,628 --> 00:18:18,228 Speaker 12: Barron is going to be a really good nickel when 438 00:18:18,228 --> 00:18:19,028 Speaker 12: he gets to the NFL. 439 00:18:19,588 --> 00:18:21,028 Speaker 2: No ordinary love. 440 00:18:21,148 --> 00:18:26,388 Speaker 6: I'll go there, Shota, Ja Day, Jim Naggy, we love 441 00:18:26,428 --> 00:18:29,628 Speaker 6: having so many Bowl games on so many different Senior 442 00:18:29,668 --> 00:18:31,668 Speaker 6: Bowl prospects to watch. It's so cool having me on 443 00:18:31,708 --> 00:18:33,668 Speaker 6: the show and we're only less than a month away. 444 00:18:33,708 --> 00:18:34,468 Speaker 6: Man We're excited. 445 00:18:34,628 --> 00:18:35,348 Speaker 11: Thanks for having me on. 446 00:18:35,388 --> 00:18:35,628 Speaker 2: Guys. 447 00:18:35,628 --> 00:18:37,108 Speaker 11: Happy early New Year. 448 00:18:37,388 --> 00:18:42,268 Speaker 4: Ye will selva out to you. Good morning to you, 449 00:18:42,428 --> 00:18:42,988 Speaker 4: our friend. 450 00:18:43,468 --> 00:18:46,348 Speaker 3: There was some news yesterday that we were all made 451 00:18:46,388 --> 00:18:49,228 Speaker 3: aware of by a single tweet that emerged. 452 00:18:49,788 --> 00:18:51,028 Speaker 2: Yeah, we absolutely loved it. 453 00:18:51,068 --> 00:18:53,708 Speaker 13: We know our guy Jason McCory is on the program. 454 00:18:53,748 --> 00:18:58,348 Speaker 13: He calls games on the radio. But Jason Jason is 455 00:18:58,428 --> 00:19:03,948 Speaker 13: also an NFL Network insider. Now, yes, that's right, our 456 00:19:03,988 --> 00:19:07,748 Speaker 13: guy Jmack breaking news as he was the first to 457 00:19:07,828 --> 00:19:11,828 Speaker 13: report Frie agent defensive tackle Sebastian Joseph Day agreed to 458 00:19:11,948 --> 00:19:14,428 Speaker 13: terms on a deal with the forty nine Ers. Joseph 459 00:19:14,548 --> 00:19:17,028 Speaker 13: Day was a captain for the Chargers and started all 460 00:19:17,068 --> 00:19:20,228 Speaker 13: fourteen games this season before being released. 461 00:19:20,308 --> 00:19:22,148 Speaker 2: Way to go, Jmack breaking the news. 462 00:19:22,588 --> 00:19:25,988 Speaker 14: Ain't O'Connell and the Raiders knocking out Chiefs knocking out 463 00:19:25,988 --> 00:19:29,388 Speaker 14: the Chiefs rather on Christmas Day? Despite O'Connell not completing 464 00:19:29,388 --> 00:19:32,348 Speaker 14: a single pass over the final three quarters, No, o'connall 465 00:19:32,348 --> 00:19:34,948 Speaker 14: finished the game with just sixty two yards passing. 466 00:19:35,028 --> 00:19:36,628 Speaker 2: But hey, win's a win. 467 00:19:36,588 --> 00:19:40,708 Speaker 14: Right In fact, O'Connell's cool, calm composure during the game 468 00:19:40,948 --> 00:19:44,308 Speaker 14: reminded Antonio Pierce of another stone face killer. 469 00:19:45,388 --> 00:19:46,868 Speaker 15: Yeah, this is gonna be a tough one that I'm 470 00:19:46,868 --> 00:19:49,908 Speaker 15: gonna say it because I can relate. It's eli, man, 471 00:19:49,948 --> 00:19:54,188 Speaker 15: It's like it's like you good, Yeah, I'm good. No, No, 472 00:19:54,228 --> 00:19:56,588 Speaker 15: like you're good. Second quarter, Yeah, I'm good. Third quarter, 473 00:19:57,028 --> 00:19:58,748 Speaker 15: fourth quarter, we completed the ball. 474 00:19:58,788 --> 00:19:59,228 Speaker 2: Yeah you're good. 475 00:19:59,268 --> 00:20:01,788 Speaker 15: He's still good to have that. I call it poker 476 00:20:01,788 --> 00:20:03,588 Speaker 15: face and that even kill. That's fine. You know, I 477 00:20:03,588 --> 00:20:06,068 Speaker 15: don't I don't even be a p don't have that fiery. 478 00:20:06,108 --> 00:20:08,508 Speaker 15: They'll be passionate, they'll be going crazy and getting bleeped 479 00:20:08,508 --> 00:20:10,268 Speaker 15: every five minutes. Don't do that. No, no, no, just be 480 00:20:10,388 --> 00:20:12,548 Speaker 15: nice and calmon, under control and manage the game and 481 00:20:12,548 --> 00:20:13,508 Speaker 15: don't turn them all over. 482 00:20:15,348 --> 00:20:16,868 Speaker 2: All right for Giants teammates. 483 00:20:16,908 --> 00:20:19,908 Speaker 14: You know, fans in Cleveland are rooting for Joe Flacco, 484 00:20:20,028 --> 00:20:25,068 Speaker 14: but should fans in Baltimore be two be all for us? 485 00:20:25,108 --> 00:20:42,228 Speaker 16: Next morning, time for What's your Beef? 486 00:20:42,228 --> 00:20:44,908 Speaker 6: Presented by Old Trapper Beef Jerkey, and I'm gonna go 487 00:20:44,988 --> 00:20:49,268 Speaker 6: to Cleveland and I'm gonna talk about Joe Flacco this morning. See, 488 00:20:49,348 --> 00:20:53,508 Speaker 6: Joe Flacco is arguably the greatest offensive player in the 489 00:20:53,548 --> 00:20:55,428 Speaker 6: history of the Baltimore Ravens. 490 00:20:55,468 --> 00:20:59,668 Speaker 2: Franchise. He's a suitable winner, a suitable MVP. 491 00:21:00,708 --> 00:21:04,868 Speaker 6: He's the winner of an NFL record seven road playoff games. 492 00:21:05,508 --> 00:21:09,908 Speaker 6: He's the owner of not one, but two wins over 493 00:21:10,028 --> 00:21:14,268 Speaker 6: Tom Brady in playoff games played in Foxborough. 494 00:21:14,428 --> 00:21:14,628 Speaker 7: Wow. 495 00:21:15,908 --> 00:21:18,388 Speaker 6: And he beat Peyton Manning and the Broncos in the 496 00:21:18,388 --> 00:21:23,148 Speaker 6: playoffs in their building with a last second touchdown passage 497 00:21:23,148 --> 00:21:25,788 Speaker 6: of Kobe Jones and then set up the Justin Tucker 498 00:21:25,828 --> 00:21:29,828 Speaker 6: field goal that we know so well. For a solid decade, 499 00:21:30,068 --> 00:21:35,228 Speaker 6: Joe Flacco was the man in Baltimore. They drafted Lamar Jackson, 500 00:21:35,708 --> 00:21:40,028 Speaker 6: and about midway through Lamar's rookie season, they put Jackson 501 00:21:40,068 --> 00:21:43,228 Speaker 6: in instead of Flacco, and Jackson. 502 00:21:42,908 --> 00:21:45,108 Speaker 2: Was awesome to the playoffs, the whole deal. 503 00:21:45,228 --> 00:21:49,068 Speaker 6: Flacco, he was cool about it, and though it wasn't ideal, 504 00:21:49,268 --> 00:21:51,788 Speaker 6: his time in Baltimore was done. 505 00:21:52,308 --> 00:21:53,988 Speaker 2: But Joe Flacco wasn't. 506 00:21:54,908 --> 00:21:58,588 Speaker 6: This thought that Joe Flacco in a Browns jersey is 507 00:21:58,668 --> 00:22:01,228 Speaker 6: so unbearable for Ravens fans. 508 00:22:00,948 --> 00:22:05,108 Speaker 2: To see, it's actually not a thing at all. See 509 00:22:05,228 --> 00:22:06,548 Speaker 2: check out this tweet here. 510 00:22:06,948 --> 00:22:10,068 Speaker 6: This one right here comes from a follower of the show, 511 00:22:10,628 --> 00:22:13,988 Speaker 6: and the tweet says, I'm asking this genuinely as someone 512 00:22:13,988 --> 00:22:16,308 Speaker 6: who didn't grow up in Baltimore. Why can't we celebrate 513 00:22:16,348 --> 00:22:20,228 Speaker 6: the resurgence of logitivity of Joe Flacco's comeback story Ravens 514 00:22:20,228 --> 00:22:24,068 Speaker 6: plot to which the actor Josh Charles, you know him 515 00:22:24,108 --> 00:22:27,148 Speaker 6: from The Good Wife? Sure, dead poets society, don't tell 516 00:22:27,188 --> 00:22:28,548 Speaker 6: mom the babysitter is dead. 517 00:22:28,388 --> 00:22:29,308 Speaker 2: He says. 518 00:22:29,348 --> 00:22:31,228 Speaker 6: The diehard fan, he says, who says, we can't one 519 00:22:31,228 --> 00:22:33,348 Speaker 6: of the old time good dudes and couldn't be happier 520 00:22:33,348 --> 00:22:35,268 Speaker 6: for him, as I'm sure many Baltimore fans are. 521 00:22:35,748 --> 00:22:37,828 Speaker 2: That's said that love will end if we gotta play. 522 00:22:37,908 --> 00:22:41,708 Speaker 6: Then in the fous cards on the table here, I 523 00:22:41,828 --> 00:22:44,708 Speaker 6: married a Baltimore girl. My wife's whole family rocks with 524 00:22:44,748 --> 00:22:50,028 Speaker 6: the Ravens. They are diehards. They love Joe Flacco. Would 525 00:22:50,028 --> 00:22:53,388 Speaker 6: they have preferred he was playing right now for Jacksonville 526 00:22:53,828 --> 00:22:58,588 Speaker 6: or say the Saints or the I don't know, the Patriots. 527 00:22:57,908 --> 00:23:01,228 Speaker 2: Someone who's not in the division. Sure, but they're happy 528 00:23:01,228 --> 00:23:01,708 Speaker 2: for the guy. 529 00:23:02,388 --> 00:23:07,508 Speaker 6: And remember the Evans didn't move from Baltimore to Cleveland. 530 00:23:07,668 --> 00:23:12,788 Speaker 2: It was the other way around. If anything. Ravens fans, despite. 531 00:23:12,468 --> 00:23:15,708 Speaker 6: The Colts, they hate the Colts, they hate the Earth 532 00:23:15,788 --> 00:23:20,148 Speaker 6: says they took their team overnight, the Colts in Mayflower, 533 00:23:20,228 --> 00:23:23,908 Speaker 6: moving fans, it took them to Indianapolis. The Browns, well, 534 00:23:23,948 --> 00:23:26,428 Speaker 6: the Ravens just kind of inherited the old Browns. The 535 00:23:26,428 --> 00:23:28,588 Speaker 6: Browns fans may hate the Ravens, the Ravens fans, I 536 00:23:28,588 --> 00:23:31,868 Speaker 6: don't really hate the Browns. All things told, this Flacco 537 00:23:31,988 --> 00:23:36,188 Speaker 6: story it's awesome. It's awesome for Browns fans. It's awesome 538 00:23:36,188 --> 00:23:39,828 Speaker 6: for football fans. Yeah, and in quiet moments, it's awesome 539 00:23:40,188 --> 00:23:42,908 Speaker 6: for even Ravens fans. That is, unless they meet in 540 00:23:42,948 --> 00:23:45,028 Speaker 6: the playoffs. And if that's the case, screw Joe Flacco. 541 00:23:45,108 --> 00:23:48,548 Speaker 6: Let's go Ravens, all right, Scroo. 542 00:23:48,348 --> 00:23:51,508 Speaker 2: Joe flaccoh let's go there. It's phenomenal what Joe Flacco 543 00:23:51,708 --> 00:23:52,148 Speaker 2: is doing. 544 00:23:52,508 --> 00:23:55,068 Speaker 8: And to that point, if I'm a Ravens fan, I 545 00:23:55,108 --> 00:23:56,908 Speaker 8: don't want to see him in a Cleveland Browns I 546 00:23:56,908 --> 00:23:58,348 Speaker 8: could be happy for him, but I can still hate 547 00:23:58,388 --> 00:24:00,788 Speaker 8: the fact that he's wearing number fifteen and the fact 548 00:24:00,788 --> 00:24:01,868 Speaker 8: that he's tearing it up. 549 00:24:01,908 --> 00:24:02,468 Speaker 2: But I love it. 550 00:24:02,468 --> 00:24:04,668 Speaker 8: As just an outsider, I'm looking at like, wow, it 551 00:24:04,668 --> 00:24:06,308 Speaker 8: would be so cool if they do meet in the playoffs, 552 00:24:06,308 --> 00:24:07,788 Speaker 8: and what if Joe Faggle wins that game. 553 00:24:08,068 --> 00:24:10,468 Speaker 2: Did I hear you say that? Resume right? He'd beat 554 00:24:10,508 --> 00:24:13,148 Speaker 2: Tom Brady and the Patriots twice in the Foxborough and 555 00:24:13,188 --> 00:24:18,068 Speaker 2: Foxborough and he also beat Peyton Mannittnver. It's great Hall 556 00:24:18,108 --> 00:24:20,308 Speaker 2: of fame resume right now, no joke. If he does 557 00:24:20,348 --> 00:24:22,388 Speaker 2: this right now for Cleveland, if they win a playoff game, 558 00:24:22,748 --> 00:24:26,468 Speaker 2: just a playoff game, give him a jacket. The numbers 559 00:24:26,548 --> 00:24:27,548 Speaker 2: might not be there, but. 560 00:24:27,548 --> 00:24:29,748 Speaker 6: Like the most road playoff wins in the history of 561 00:24:29,788 --> 00:24:33,148 Speaker 6: the sport Super Bowl MVPs, there's Kurt Warner parallels here 562 00:24:33,188 --> 00:24:33,988 Speaker 6: to a second chapter. 563 00:24:34,028 --> 00:24:35,588 Speaker 2: He'll put him in when he's like eighty five. 564 00:24:35,708 --> 00:24:38,348 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think the key for Baltimore is an 565 00:24:38,428 --> 00:24:40,588 Speaker 3: all time good guy like would show up at random 566 00:24:40,628 --> 00:24:43,068 Speaker 3: breakfast spots in Baltimore, like totally on his holding with 567 00:24:43,108 --> 00:24:44,868 Speaker 3: his family and just like orders. 568 00:24:44,628 --> 00:24:47,428 Speaker 4: Pays and team. It's like he's fantastic. All right. 569 00:24:47,508 --> 00:24:49,348 Speaker 3: There is a great matchup that I feel like we 570 00:24:49,468 --> 00:24:51,228 Speaker 3: just haven't touched on yet in the show, and we 571 00:24:51,308 --> 00:24:51,988 Speaker 3: must get to it now. 572 00:24:52,068 --> 00:24:53,188 Speaker 4: Top of the lead blocks Walk. 573 00:24:53,308 --> 00:24:57,708 Speaker 3: The Lions clinched their first division title since nineteen ninety 574 00:24:57,708 --> 00:25:01,268 Speaker 3: three on Sunday, But now it's on to the next game, 575 00:25:01,308 --> 00:25:03,588 Speaker 3: as always, and this is a massive in the NFC. 576 00:25:03,988 --> 00:25:06,908 Speaker 3: Here's Campbell, they're head coach and Lions well, he had 577 00:25:06,948 --> 00:25:09,788 Speaker 3: to say about taking on the Dallas Cowboys Saturday night. 578 00:25:11,348 --> 00:25:14,148 Speaker 17: It's important, you know, we checked the box on one thing, 579 00:25:14,268 --> 00:25:17,468 Speaker 17: and now it's to the next one. And so at 580 00:25:17,468 --> 00:25:19,868 Speaker 17: this point now we're fighting for the two seed, you know, 581 00:25:20,148 --> 00:25:22,108 Speaker 17: and look, if you're able to get to the one, 582 00:25:22,228 --> 00:25:24,588 Speaker 17: so be it. But right now what we know we 583 00:25:24,708 --> 00:25:27,628 Speaker 17: can achieve on our own is the two and that's 584 00:25:27,668 --> 00:25:29,908 Speaker 17: no easy task. You know. We got to go to Dallas. 585 00:25:29,948 --> 00:25:31,548 Speaker 17: They haven't lost and I don't know how many games 586 00:25:31,588 --> 00:25:35,308 Speaker 17: at home, and they play really well there. It'll be loud, 587 00:25:35,828 --> 00:25:38,228 Speaker 17: you know, but we're looking forward to it. 588 00:25:39,748 --> 00:25:41,788 Speaker 2: Dan Campbell just referenced it. 589 00:25:41,908 --> 00:25:43,868 Speaker 6: They're looking at the two seed right now and it's 590 00:25:43,988 --> 00:25:47,068 Speaker 6: very much in their grasp of win over Dallas would 591 00:25:47,068 --> 00:25:49,388 Speaker 6: put them in good standing to do so. As the 592 00:25:49,468 --> 00:25:52,948 Speaker 6: Eagles are eleven and four, so are the Lions, so 593 00:25:53,028 --> 00:25:54,748 Speaker 6: are the forty nine ers. There could be even a 594 00:25:54,788 --> 00:25:57,348 Speaker 6: one seed scenario. We'll get into it. But this is 595 00:25:57,388 --> 00:26:01,468 Speaker 6: the game. It's the current three seed versus the current 596 00:26:01,788 --> 00:26:05,388 Speaker 6: five seed. With those numbers being quite fungible based on 597 00:26:05,508 --> 00:26:10,428 Speaker 6: this weekend's games. Is Detroit at Dallas A Saturday night special. 598 00:26:10,748 --> 00:26:12,708 Speaker 6: Jamie HURDA, I am ready for it. 599 00:26:12,868 --> 00:26:13,228 Speaker 2: Let's go. 600 00:26:13,308 --> 00:26:14,068 Speaker 4: Here's the t up. 601 00:26:14,268 --> 00:26:17,548 Speaker 3: What would a Lions win in this two verse five 602 00:26:17,748 --> 00:26:20,188 Speaker 3: matchup as it currently sits in the NFC? What would 603 00:26:20,188 --> 00:26:23,108 Speaker 3: Alliance win over the Cowboys mean in the NFC as 604 00:26:23,148 --> 00:26:23,548 Speaker 3: a whole. 605 00:26:24,308 --> 00:26:26,468 Speaker 8: Obviously, we just talked about possibly that the two spot 606 00:26:26,508 --> 00:26:28,468 Speaker 8: and they're still chasing that one spot. But for the 607 00:26:28,508 --> 00:26:31,188 Speaker 8: Detroit Lions, they've just been fun and fascinating to watch. 608 00:26:31,228 --> 00:26:33,228 Speaker 8: There's been some ups and downs, but you go back 609 00:26:33,228 --> 00:26:35,828 Speaker 8: to last season as the season was ending, we said 610 00:26:35,828 --> 00:26:38,228 Speaker 8: it multiple times here on this show, if the Lions 611 00:26:38,228 --> 00:26:40,748 Speaker 8: could have just gotten into the playoffs, they were probably the. 612 00:26:40,708 --> 00:26:42,628 Speaker 2: Hottest team in the NFL. 613 00:26:42,908 --> 00:26:45,068 Speaker 8: And going into the playoffs they have an opportunity to 614 00:26:45,068 --> 00:26:47,668 Speaker 8: continue to build momentum. There was a time where they 615 00:26:47,668 --> 00:26:49,628 Speaker 8: were going into that Denver Broncos game where we were 616 00:26:49,708 --> 00:26:52,068 Speaker 8: questioning the Detroit Lions, where they are team that were 617 00:26:52,068 --> 00:26:54,028 Speaker 8: for real as a contender. Then they go out there, 618 00:26:54,028 --> 00:26:55,868 Speaker 8: they beat on the Broncos, they beat the Vikers, and 619 00:26:55,908 --> 00:26:58,228 Speaker 8: now you're going on the road to Dallas. You win 620 00:26:58,308 --> 00:27:00,628 Speaker 8: a game like that, I think you just look at 621 00:27:00,628 --> 00:27:02,708 Speaker 8: the historic season they've had and you just said it. 622 00:27:02,868 --> 00:27:05,388 Speaker 8: They've won the division of first time since ninety three. 623 00:27:05,428 --> 00:27:08,108 Speaker 8: They've also had twenty wins now in the last two season. 624 00:27:08,188 --> 00:27:11,668 Speaker 8: That's the first time in franchise history. And I look 625 00:27:11,708 --> 00:27:13,188 Speaker 8: at this team and you see them. That was the 626 00:27:13,268 --> 00:27:16,428 Speaker 8: celebration after winning the division. T shirts and hats. We 627 00:27:16,508 --> 00:27:20,348 Speaker 8: always talk about it, and this Lion's team, young team, 628 00:27:20,508 --> 00:27:23,148 Speaker 8: and they showed it their video of them announcing and 629 00:27:23,188 --> 00:27:26,988 Speaker 8: congratulating the team of winning their division, and they flashed 630 00:27:27,028 --> 00:27:29,828 Speaker 8: back in the video on Dan Campbell in early September. 631 00:27:29,868 --> 00:27:32,508 Speaker 8: He had the guy stand up looking at anzelone hitting 632 00:27:32,948 --> 00:27:36,868 Speaker 8: him and a Hutchison. They're for the culture right now, 633 00:27:37,108 --> 00:27:40,148 Speaker 8: moves they can hang. You see everybody's watching. If they weren't, 634 00:27:40,148 --> 00:27:42,508 Speaker 8: they come and sit down. So shout out to those 635 00:27:42,548 --> 00:27:45,028 Speaker 8: two guys right there. But Dan Campbell stands up and 636 00:27:45,028 --> 00:27:46,788 Speaker 8: he tells the guys to turn around in their meeting 637 00:27:46,868 --> 00:27:48,828 Speaker 8: room and to reew was on the board in the 638 00:27:48,868 --> 00:27:50,788 Speaker 8: back and it was since ninety three that they had 639 00:27:50,828 --> 00:27:53,468 Speaker 8: won a division title. It was I think ninety two 640 00:27:53,668 --> 00:27:55,908 Speaker 8: since they had won a playoff game. He said to 641 00:27:55,948 --> 00:27:58,828 Speaker 8: those guys, we build our legacy now. This season is 642 00:27:58,868 --> 00:28:01,388 Speaker 8: going to be one that you never forget. And as 643 00:28:01,388 --> 00:28:03,228 Speaker 8: you look at his Lions team and they continue to 644 00:28:03,268 --> 00:28:05,948 Speaker 8: do things that they haven't done it in their franchise history, 645 00:28:06,148 --> 00:28:08,628 Speaker 8: or they haven't done in the last thirty years, that's 646 00:28:08,668 --> 00:28:10,628 Speaker 8: the type of season they're having. You go on the 647 00:28:10,748 --> 00:28:13,588 Speaker 8: roll this late and you beat a Dallas Cowboys team 648 00:28:14,028 --> 00:28:16,908 Speaker 8: for a young roster, it continues to build the confidence. 649 00:28:17,068 --> 00:28:18,228 Speaker 2: We talked about it this week. 650 00:28:18,268 --> 00:28:20,948 Speaker 8: A guy like Ifa too, Melifan Will stepping up from 651 00:28:20,988 --> 00:28:22,868 Speaker 8: him on the defensive side of the ball, young guy 652 00:28:22,908 --> 00:28:25,788 Speaker 8: that they drafted who's now getting his opportunity to go 653 00:28:25,868 --> 00:28:28,588 Speaker 8: out there and play. That's to me, it's what so 654 00:28:28,668 --> 00:28:31,868 Speaker 8: fun to watch Kirby Joseph getting an interceptions, celebrating as 655 00:28:31,868 --> 00:28:34,308 Speaker 8: he's returning the ball down the sideline. 656 00:28:33,868 --> 00:28:35,668 Speaker 2: And big games like this, you show up. 657 00:28:35,708 --> 00:28:38,108 Speaker 8: That gives you the confidence going into the playos because 658 00:28:38,148 --> 00:28:40,268 Speaker 8: a lot of those guys on that team, aside from 659 00:28:40,268 --> 00:28:42,348 Speaker 8: a Jared God, they haven't been able to do something 660 00:28:42,428 --> 00:28:42,708 Speaker 8: like that. 661 00:28:42,828 --> 00:28:44,468 Speaker 2: So I think that's the fun and fascinating thing. 662 00:28:44,508 --> 00:28:46,268 Speaker 8: If they're able to beat the Cowboys and continue to 663 00:28:46,308 --> 00:28:48,788 Speaker 8: build on that momentum and the serious contenders to win 664 00:28:48,828 --> 00:28:49,308 Speaker 8: the Super Bowl. 665 00:28:49,308 --> 00:28:51,068 Speaker 6: And then that's just really fun seeing them in the 666 00:28:51,068 --> 00:28:54,748 Speaker 6: locker room afterwards. And that was a close game. Yeah, defense, defense, 667 00:28:54,748 --> 00:28:56,628 Speaker 6: close the door. That was so important that the defense 668 00:28:56,668 --> 00:28:58,468 Speaker 6: finally made that big play to say, yes, we can 669 00:28:58,508 --> 00:28:58,748 Speaker 6: do this. 670 00:28:58,868 --> 00:29:00,268 Speaker 2: We can do some big games. 671 00:29:00,188 --> 00:29:03,028 Speaker 6: Against worthy opponents. Dallas hasn't lost the game at home 672 00:29:03,108 --> 00:29:03,628 Speaker 6: all season. 673 00:29:03,748 --> 00:29:04,308 Speaker 2: This is a test. 674 00:29:04,668 --> 00:29:05,948 Speaker 6: And let me tell you, let me add to the 675 00:29:05,988 --> 00:29:08,028 Speaker 6: mystique of this. I don't know if it's been announced yet. 676 00:29:08,068 --> 00:29:10,788 Speaker 6: I think it has, but Saturday night, December thirty, so 677 00:29:10,788 --> 00:29:11,908 Speaker 6: it's a standalone game. 678 00:29:11,948 --> 00:29:14,148 Speaker 2: It's actually Aikman and Buck on the call. 679 00:29:14,228 --> 00:29:17,108 Speaker 6: So ESPN is doing it. Jimmy Johnson's going to be 680 00:29:17,188 --> 00:29:19,668 Speaker 6: retired into the Cowboys room and honor. So think about 681 00:29:19,748 --> 00:29:22,468 Speaker 6: the feelings in Dallas. They haven't lost the game all 682 00:29:22,548 --> 00:29:25,468 Speaker 6: season at home, their all time legendary coach is being 683 00:29:25,508 --> 00:29:26,908 Speaker 6: inducted into the Ring of honor. 684 00:29:26,988 --> 00:29:27,988 Speaker 2: Aikman's on the call. 685 00:29:28,108 --> 00:29:30,788 Speaker 6: It feels like it's a big Cowboys that imagine the 686 00:29:30,828 --> 00:29:33,148 Speaker 6: Lions came in there and just reigned on that party. 687 00:29:33,268 --> 00:29:36,348 Speaker 6: And it's Dan Campbell, the former Cowboys tight end to 688 00:29:36,428 --> 00:29:37,948 Speaker 6: come in there and say, you know what, we don't 689 00:29:37,948 --> 00:29:40,068 Speaker 6: care about any of that. We've got bigger goals than 690 00:29:40,308 --> 00:29:42,588 Speaker 6: you guys celebrating. We're not the homecoming team that you 691 00:29:42,628 --> 00:29:45,988 Speaker 6: come in and beat on. Here's some fun playoff picture stuff. 692 00:29:46,348 --> 00:29:48,588 Speaker 6: If the Lions went out, they play the Cowboys this week, 693 00:29:48,588 --> 00:29:50,868 Speaker 6: they play the Vikings week eighteen, and the forty nine 694 00:29:50,988 --> 00:29:54,188 Speaker 6: Ers lose to either the Commanders this weekend unlikely or 695 00:29:54,228 --> 00:29:58,788 Speaker 6: the Rams potentially the Lions, the Lions get the one 696 00:29:58,868 --> 00:30:01,708 Speaker 6: seed and the first round Biener Say what about the 697 00:30:01,788 --> 00:30:05,468 Speaker 6: Eagles strength to schedule, strength of victory, fence records, It 698 00:30:05,628 --> 00:30:08,628 Speaker 6: actually favors the Lions. Let's see that playoff picture again 699 00:30:08,668 --> 00:30:10,708 Speaker 6: one more time. Let me take you through it again. 700 00:30:10,788 --> 00:30:14,188 Speaker 6: Here you get the Lions beating the Cowboys this week. 701 00:30:14,268 --> 00:30:16,028 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Lions beating the Vikings. 702 00:30:16,348 --> 00:30:19,548 Speaker 6: They leap frog the Eagles and they kick out the 703 00:30:19,548 --> 00:30:21,468 Speaker 6: forty nine ers. If the forty nine Ers lose to 704 00:30:21,508 --> 00:30:24,028 Speaker 6: the Rams in week eighteen, and then we're talking first 705 00:30:24,148 --> 00:30:28,068 Speaker 6: round by and the entire NFC Playoffs comes through Detroit, 706 00:30:28,388 --> 00:30:31,428 Speaker 6: they shouldn't be satisfied with just being division champions. That's cool, 707 00:30:31,748 --> 00:30:35,548 Speaker 6: that's fun. That's a nice step. There could be bigger 708 00:30:35,588 --> 00:30:38,108 Speaker 6: goals at steak here. You beat Dallas, you're a win 709 00:30:38,148 --> 00:30:40,068 Speaker 6: away and a little help from your old buddy Stafford 710 00:30:40,148 --> 00:30:43,748 Speaker 6: from getting that one seed and a home field throughout 711 00:30:43,788 --> 00:30:46,628 Speaker 6: the playoffs and a buye. I think the Lions they 712 00:30:46,668 --> 00:30:48,468 Speaker 6: might shock the world. They might beat the Cowboys this 713 00:30:48,508 --> 00:30:50,748 Speaker 6: weekend because I think they're not just satisfied with being 714 00:30:51,028 --> 00:30:53,508 Speaker 6: division champions and dancing around in Minnesota's locker room. 715 00:30:53,548 --> 00:30:57,108 Speaker 5: I mean, they did go into Arrowhead opening week on 716 00:30:57,188 --> 00:30:59,828 Speaker 5: championship Benner Knight in the Neverhead and gotta win real. 717 00:30:59,948 --> 00:31:00,628 Speaker 2: You can win there. 718 00:31:00,668 --> 00:31:03,988 Speaker 5: You can win at Jerry's World. Fun fact for you guys. 719 00:31:04,428 --> 00:31:05,628 Speaker 2: Kemble, that's my guy. 720 00:31:05,788 --> 00:31:07,988 Speaker 5: We played ball together at Texas and m so I'm 721 00:31:07,988 --> 00:31:08,748 Speaker 5: proud of you, my boy. 722 00:31:09,308 --> 00:31:12,068 Speaker 2: A man tell us about college, then, Paul dan Kemble. 723 00:31:12,428 --> 00:31:15,508 Speaker 5: I'm not surprised at the success he's having, not only 724 00:31:15,868 --> 00:31:17,948 Speaker 5: what he had as an entrim coach in Miami, but 725 00:31:18,028 --> 00:31:20,828 Speaker 5: the success he's having in Detroit. He was a leader 726 00:31:20,868 --> 00:31:23,588 Speaker 5: of men in college, one of my favorite all time 727 00:31:23,628 --> 00:31:25,708 Speaker 5: players that I played with. He took me deer hunt 728 00:31:25,828 --> 00:31:27,908 Speaker 5: one time for the first person only time. 729 00:31:28,228 --> 00:31:29,188 Speaker 2: He's that kind of guy. 730 00:31:29,268 --> 00:31:32,828 Speaker 5: Right, he's gonna bring you in and mixed with guys 731 00:31:32,828 --> 00:31:35,108 Speaker 5: that are not like him, So I'm not shocked by 732 00:31:35,108 --> 00:31:36,148 Speaker 5: his success at all. 733 00:31:36,308 --> 00:31:39,428 Speaker 2: Now back to the question, what would this win me? 734 00:31:39,908 --> 00:31:43,988 Speaker 5: For me, I think it would mean applied pressure to 735 00:31:44,428 --> 00:31:48,228 Speaker 5: the other number one seed contenders San Francisco forty nine 736 00:31:48,308 --> 00:31:51,308 Speaker 5: Ers and the Philadelphia Eagles that applied pressure with me. 737 00:31:51,588 --> 00:31:53,908 Speaker 2: You don't get the rest youer guys in week seventeen. 738 00:31:54,188 --> 00:31:56,148 Speaker 5: You have to go out and still fight for this 739 00:31:56,308 --> 00:31:59,148 Speaker 5: when with the injuries to Trent Williams, with that growing 740 00:31:59,228 --> 00:32:02,068 Speaker 5: injury I've had that only rest can hell that you 741 00:32:02,068 --> 00:32:03,628 Speaker 5: don't get the rest of guys, you have to go 742 00:32:03,668 --> 00:32:06,268 Speaker 5: out and play. So I think this went basically me 743 00:32:06,548 --> 00:32:10,308 Speaker 5: applied pressure to the other guys contending for the number one. 744 00:32:10,188 --> 00:32:12,908 Speaker 3: Seed knowing your energy does not surprise me whatsoever. That 745 00:32:12,948 --> 00:32:15,588 Speaker 3: those two were friends and even deer hunting together in 746 00:32:15,628 --> 00:32:17,988 Speaker 3: college is fantastic, you know, like. 747 00:32:17,908 --> 00:32:19,068 Speaker 4: That makes so much sense. 748 00:32:19,468 --> 00:32:21,028 Speaker 3: Also, you're supposed to be quiet when you hunt for 749 00:32:21,068 --> 00:32:23,988 Speaker 3: deer or is that did you guys accomplish that? Yeah, 750 00:32:25,868 --> 00:32:28,548 Speaker 3: silence is valuable when you do that. Does it not 751 00:32:28,548 --> 00:32:30,548 Speaker 3: gonna work with Dante? Let's go to the other sideline, 752 00:32:30,588 --> 00:32:33,108 Speaker 3: the Cowboys coming off that loss to the Dolphins, they 753 00:32:33,148 --> 00:32:35,268 Speaker 3: have this narrative, but a positive spin is that they 754 00:32:35,268 --> 00:32:37,028 Speaker 3: get to be at home. Do we feel better or 755 00:32:37,028 --> 00:32:39,308 Speaker 3: worse about Dallas after a game that they lost in 756 00:32:39,348 --> 00:32:40,628 Speaker 3: the way in which they did. 757 00:32:41,068 --> 00:32:43,588 Speaker 8: It's gonna sound weird to say. It's not a participation 758 00:32:43,668 --> 00:32:46,388 Speaker 8: troll for anything of that nature, but I do feel 759 00:32:46,468 --> 00:32:49,468 Speaker 8: better about the Cowboys after that Miami Dolphins Seaman. Yes, 760 00:32:49,508 --> 00:32:51,628 Speaker 8: you could look at and say the Dolphins didn't put 761 00:32:51,668 --> 00:32:54,308 Speaker 8: up prolific numbers or anything of that nature, but as 762 00:32:54,348 --> 00:32:56,828 Speaker 8: you watched that game, it was two good football teams 763 00:32:56,828 --> 00:32:59,468 Speaker 8: going head to head. Yes, when the Dallas Cowboys, if 764 00:32:59,468 --> 00:33:00,908 Speaker 8: you're a fan, you look at it where you have 765 00:33:00,988 --> 00:33:03,548 Speaker 8: Tony Pollard on the goal line and you think, all right, 766 00:33:03,548 --> 00:33:05,628 Speaker 8: if he just gets this one in the end zone, 767 00:33:05,668 --> 00:33:07,468 Speaker 8: how much more it could have meant in that game? 768 00:33:07,708 --> 00:33:10,068 Speaker 8: But they went toe to toe with the Miami Dolphins. 769 00:33:10,068 --> 00:33:12,628 Speaker 8: I think bigger than that. When it came down the 770 00:33:12,668 --> 00:33:15,268 Speaker 8: fourth quarter of that game and Dak Prescott has the 771 00:33:15,308 --> 00:33:17,788 Speaker 8: ball in his hands with an opportunity to take his 772 00:33:17,868 --> 00:33:21,108 Speaker 8: team down there and go ahead in that game, he 773 00:33:21,308 --> 00:33:24,268 Speaker 8: does it on a beautiful drive where he's making plays 774 00:33:24,268 --> 00:33:26,708 Speaker 8: to put them in position to win the game. Now 775 00:33:26,828 --> 00:33:30,108 Speaker 8: ultimately Tua and the Miami Dolphins came back, got the ball, 776 00:33:30,148 --> 00:33:32,068 Speaker 8: now drove and Jason Sanders hits the. 777 00:33:31,988 --> 00:33:33,028 Speaker 2: Field goal to win the game. 778 00:33:33,148 --> 00:33:35,428 Speaker 8: But there's so many question marks around Dak in a 779 00:33:35,508 --> 00:33:38,508 Speaker 8: primetime moment and every other narrative you want to place 780 00:33:38,548 --> 00:33:41,908 Speaker 8: around the fantastic season that he's having coming off a 781 00:33:41,988 --> 00:33:44,628 Speaker 8: role loss to Buffalo Bills where you kind of lay 782 00:33:44,628 --> 00:33:47,188 Speaker 8: an egg, then you go on the roll to Miami. 783 00:33:46,908 --> 00:33:48,148 Speaker 2: And you perform the way they did. 784 00:33:48,228 --> 00:33:50,428 Speaker 8: Yes, it was a loss, so there's gonna be question 785 00:33:50,428 --> 00:33:52,668 Speaker 8: marks about this Cowboys seam. But I do feel better 786 00:33:52,908 --> 00:33:55,268 Speaker 8: of seeing them show up on the roll, put their 787 00:33:55,308 --> 00:33:57,348 Speaker 8: best foot forward, but just falling a little bit short. 788 00:33:57,428 --> 00:33:58,388 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel the same. 789 00:33:58,508 --> 00:34:00,628 Speaker 6: I think if they had lost forty to fourteen or 790 00:34:00,708 --> 00:34:03,028 Speaker 6: thirty five to seven, we're doing the entire show on 791 00:34:03,148 --> 00:34:05,868 Speaker 6: the Cowboys are melting down. It almost felt like they 792 00:34:05,908 --> 00:34:08,588 Speaker 6: needed to just show up in this game and give 793 00:34:08,628 --> 00:34:10,348 Speaker 6: it their best effort. And to your point, Dak did 794 00:34:10,348 --> 00:34:12,348 Speaker 6: have that final drive, It just so happened to I 795 00:34:12,348 --> 00:34:15,268 Speaker 6: had a better final drive that followed. The defense was 796 00:34:15,308 --> 00:34:17,148 Speaker 6: really good in this one. Miami comes in there a 797 00:34:17,148 --> 00:34:19,308 Speaker 6: bunch of Ferraris and they were able to slow them down, 798 00:34:19,548 --> 00:34:22,548 Speaker 6: hold him to five field goals, no moral victories, and 799 00:34:22,588 --> 00:34:24,068 Speaker 6: at the end of the day, if they lose twenty 800 00:34:24,068 --> 00:34:26,348 Speaker 6: two to twenty in the divisional round again, I think 801 00:34:26,428 --> 00:34:29,948 Speaker 6: everyone's going to be screaming bloody murder. But I do 802 00:34:29,948 --> 00:34:31,988 Speaker 6: feel better this week than I did last week after 803 00:34:32,068 --> 00:34:33,588 Speaker 6: the loss to the Buffalo Bills up in. 804 00:34:33,548 --> 00:34:35,748 Speaker 2: Both, I'm not with you guys on this one. 805 00:34:36,028 --> 00:34:39,748 Speaker 5: I feel worse, and the reason is because Dak finally 806 00:34:39,828 --> 00:34:41,868 Speaker 5: has that moment. He goes down, he drives the team 807 00:34:42,148 --> 00:34:44,028 Speaker 5: and puts him in position to win. I thought the 808 00:34:44,068 --> 00:34:46,748 Speaker 5: strength of this Cowboys team was the defense, and they're 809 00:34:46,828 --> 00:34:50,468 Speaker 5: unable to keep them from driving in return and go 810 00:34:50,548 --> 00:34:52,508 Speaker 5: down to win the game. So for me, I think 811 00:34:52,548 --> 00:34:56,188 Speaker 5: that's going to Bowl problems for the Cowboys. For whatever reason, 812 00:34:56,668 --> 00:34:59,348 Speaker 5: Michael has not showing up in big moments in big games, 813 00:34:59,348 --> 00:35:01,708 Speaker 5: and he's one of your biggest stars on defense, and 814 00:35:02,148 --> 00:35:04,908 Speaker 5: that's when he needs to show up most is on 815 00:35:04,988 --> 00:35:07,828 Speaker 5: a game winning drive, get a stop, make a big sack, 816 00:35:08,028 --> 00:35:08,948 Speaker 5: and I just didn't see that. 817 00:35:08,988 --> 00:35:12,068 Speaker 2: So for me, I'm still concerned. Yes, more victory went 818 00:35:12,148 --> 00:35:14,548 Speaker 2: on the role. You played well, but you held the 819 00:35:14,588 --> 00:35:18,348 Speaker 2: Miami Dolphins still five field goals at home and still lost. 820 00:35:18,628 --> 00:35:19,508 Speaker 2: That's not a good sign. 821 00:35:19,948 --> 00:35:22,228 Speaker 3: I'm just thinking of NFL plus the new show Deer 822 00:35:22,308 --> 00:35:26,628 Speaker 3: Hunting with Dan Campbell, and that's all I can think about. 823 00:35:29,228 --> 00:35:35,948 Speaker 2: And Dan. 824 00:35:34,228 --> 00:35:36,748 Speaker 4: Sounds like a video. Are you going to join franchise? Sure, 825 00:35:36,908 --> 00:35:37,428 Speaker 4: but you're. 826 00:35:38,948 --> 00:35:40,108 Speaker 2: I won't know. I'm not going