1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: Instead of saying, well, my relationship is like this because 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: of XYZ, or I'm in this situation because of XYZ, 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: I just say I'm in this situation. It just is, 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: and then I just stop. It's like a wool, it 5 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 1: just is and you can change it. 6 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, Emily Abody here, coming to you from the 7 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,919 Speaker 2: Age Studio. You are listening to episode two hundred and 8 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: seven of Hurdle, a wellness focused podcast. We're connected with 9 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 2: everyone from your favorite athletes to top experts and industry 10 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 2: CEOs about their highest highs, toughest moments, and everything in between. 11 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 2: We all go through hurdles in life, and my goal 12 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 2: through these discussions is to empower you to better navigate 13 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 2: yours and move with intention so that you can stride 14 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 2: towards your own big bite and of course have some 15 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 2: fun along the way. For today's episode two hundred and seven, 16 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 2: I am bringing back my friend Louisa Nicola. She is 17 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 2: a neuroscientist. She's also the founder of Neuroathletics. If you 18 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 2: missed her hurdle moment last week all about the glymphatic system, 19 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: you have got to check it out and if you 20 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 2: caught it, then you have a sneak peek into the 21 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 2: world of intellect and knowledge bombs that Louisa is going 22 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:35,199 Speaker 2: to drop on us for episode two hundred and seven. 23 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 2: Louisa was born and raised in Australia. She flew to 24 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 2: Los Angeles for a work opportunity early in her career, 25 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 2: and in today's episode, she talks about how that Los 26 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 2: Angeles trip turned into a Los Angeles brief stay, which 27 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 2: turned into a trip over to New York and well 28 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 2: she really hasn't left much since. She gives us the 29 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 2: lowdown on how a slew of awesome and fun opportunities 30 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:09,399 Speaker 2: turned into her creating her dream job, and how grateful 31 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 2: and excited she was to hit the ground running here 32 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 2: in New York, thanks in part to some kindness from 33 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 2: the help of some new friends. Luisa talks to us 34 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 2: all about what she does over at Neuroathletics, how she 35 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 2: works with some of the best players in the NBA, 36 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 2: the MLS, and NHL to enhance peak brain performance and 37 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 2: what that means, how someone maybe like you and I, 38 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 2: can also go after our greatest potential. She gets honest 39 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 2: about the hurdles that she's faced as an entrepreneur, the 40 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 2: excitement she feels about working her way into a new 41 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 2: chapter for her business and shed some light on topics 42 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 2: like sleep and productivity. I really really loved this conversation 43 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 2: with Louisa. I'm so excited to bring it to the 44 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 2: feed and trust me, you're probably gonna want your notes 45 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 2: app open for this one. You're following along with Hurdle 46 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 2: over on social at Hurdle podcast, I am over at 47 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 2: Emily a Body and if you haven't done so yet, 48 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 2: rate and review the show in Apple Podcasts or wherever 49 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 2: you get your podcasts. The link to do that is 50 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 2: in the show notes. 51 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 3: With that, let's get to hurdling. 52 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 2: Today. I am sitting down once again with Louise and Nicola. 53 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 2: She's a clinical neuroscientist, high performance coach and host of 54 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 2: the Neuroexperience podcast. How are you doing today? 55 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: I'm doing so well. Thank you for having me. 56 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 2: I am amped to have you here. I felt like 57 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 2: as soon as we met irl was it last month? Yeah, 58 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 2: I've like lost all track of time. 59 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: The Whoop Intimate Dinner. 60 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 4: The Whoop Intimate Dinner, it was so good and I 61 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 4: was just like, Wow, I need to rank this woman's 62 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 4: brain and hear her entire story because I knew in 63 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 4: my brief moment with you, as enamorate as I was, 64 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 4: that my audience, the hurdlers, would feel the same way. 65 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 4: Oh I hope, so, I hope so so listening to 66 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 4: your angelic voice, You're not from here. 67 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: You grew up in Australia. And again I said this 68 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 2: last week on Wednesday's episode, but being a neuroscientist is 69 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 2: like a very impressive title. So when you were younger, 70 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 2: did you think what did you think you wanted to 71 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 2: be when you grew up, I was. 72 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: A different person as the only thing that really stays 73 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: true today is that I was an entrepreneur. When I 74 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: was about six years old, I was selling on the 75 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: black market at school. I was selling we have these 76 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: red frogs. They're a famous Australian candy, and I was 77 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: if you bought five of them at the canteen, it 78 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: was like eighty cents, and I thought, well, what if 79 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: I can sell five to people for like fifty cents 80 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 1: and so so yeah, I was. I was doing crazy 81 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: things like. 82 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 2: That, would you just buy them in bulk? Get like 83 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 2: the Australian version of Costco. 84 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: I did, and my parents actually owned the Australian version 85 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: of costco. So I was getting them for free, so 86 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: I didn't actually have to pay for them, so it 87 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 1: was a win win. I was just I was just profiting, 88 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: just profiting. 89 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 2: I love this. So entrepreneurial from a young age just 90 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 2: carries over with you as you grow up. You eventually 91 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 2: must decide that you are interested in pursuing some avenue 92 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 2: of medicine. 93 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it started. I was a swimmer all throughout school. 94 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 1: All Australians are swimmers. It's just a call it spade 95 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: a spade. And then at around seventeen years old, I 96 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: entered a triathlon. I didn't really know too much about it, 97 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: but I trained for six weeks. I thought, well, I 98 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: know how to ride a bike, I can run and 99 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: I can swim. Ended up coming first and that was 100 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: just by chance, and I got picked up by an 101 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: Australian triathlon coach. This was when I was seventeen, Like, 102 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: this was back when triathlon wasn't a thing, you know, 103 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: so it was really odd. It was like people are like, 104 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 1: what are you? What are you doing? So I did 105 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: that and I ended up training. I started training, you know, 106 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: forty plus hours a week and that was my entire goal. 107 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: I just wanted to be the world's best triathlete. 108 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 2: Did you have out of the three modality as a favorite. 109 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: Yes, it was swimming. I was first out of the 110 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: water for swimming. You never hear that, Oh yeah, I 111 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: loved it. I'm a I'm a I'm not tiny, so 112 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: I'm not small and I was never built small, So 113 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: running was always my downfall. I would always I'd be 114 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: first out of the water, and then I'd be in 115 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: the midpack for cycling, and then as soon as I 116 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: got off the bike, I was like I was all 117 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: the way behind. So it was never gonna work out 118 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 1: for me. 119 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 2: Oh man, So you get into triathlon, you excel at triathlon, 120 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 2: and then what happens? 121 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: I was well excelling at triathlon. I was obsessed. I 122 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 1: needed to know everything about how to I become the 123 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: best triathlete. So I started studying cell biology. I started 124 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 1: studying my brain. I started studying everything that it took, 125 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: like literally physiology, exercise physiology, and I thought, I want 126 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: to go and study exercise physiology. So I did. I 127 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: actually became a high school teacher because I thought this 128 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: is the best way for me to train and work out. 129 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: So graduated. I was what. I graduated early at age twenty, 130 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: and after competing, I was reaching my end. I ended 131 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: up getting hit by a car. This was four weeks 132 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: before going to Beijing. So I qualified for Beijing back 133 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: in twenty eleven. I got hit by a car and 134 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: that was the end of my career. 135 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 2: Actually, so where were you when you got hit by 136 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 2: the car. 137 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: I was in Australia. We were doing an eighty kilometer 138 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: ride and at the forty kilometer turnaround point, that's when 139 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: the car hit me and slammed me up against a guardrail. 140 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: So I broke several bones and obviously couldn't compete in Beijing. 141 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: And my parents had a serious conversation. They're like, listen, 142 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: what are you going to do now with your life? 143 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: And that's when I literally I called it quits and 144 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: I thought, I need to study the brain. I need 145 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: to study what's happening inside my own brain. 146 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 2: What was the injury like for you after the accident. 147 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: I broke two ribs clavical I did my ACL MCL LCL. 148 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: I think that was pretty much it. So I did 149 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: have surgery on the knee. 150 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, do you experience complications with any art to this day? 151 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: To this day. Yes, I have constant issues. I'm literally 152 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: at my my therapist like every second week. 153 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. Yeah, I hope that you sued them. 154 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: Literally it was. It was the worst time in my life. 155 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: But it was also a blessing because I like, being 156 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: a triathlete as a woman is really hard, and I 157 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: know you've experienced your a marathon runner and to put 158 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: your entire life on hold. I didn't drink. I hadn't 159 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: you know, I don't drink that much now. I didn't drink, 160 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 1: and I had many failed relationsships because I could never 161 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: go out. It was just I didn't eat sugar. I 162 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: was forty pounds lighter than what I am now. So 163 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 1: it wasn't I didn't think it was the best career 164 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: path for me. 165 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 2: Okay, so you decide you're going to invest all of 166 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 2: this energy that you have now into this career pivot. 167 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 2: But I would imagine, despite being excited about the subject matter, 168 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 2: that pivot couldn't have been easy. 169 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: No, No, it was. I equate it as in going 170 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: through a divorce. I had to divorce the sport. It 171 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: hurt me so much, and my teammates became my best friends, 172 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: and they, you know, some of them still are. We 173 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 1: Literally we ate together, we trained together, we worked together, 174 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: we did everything together. So I had to It was 175 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: all in or nothing. And people say to me, now, 176 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 1: are you going to do another triath? And I'm like, no, 177 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: I wis is just too much for me. But I did. Look, 178 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: I did get a lot from it. I competed, you know, 179 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: at a national level. I was top three in Australia. 180 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: It was. Yeah. 181 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,319 Speaker 2: One of the hardest parts about getting injured is that 182 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 2: loss of community that you just spoke about, like not 183 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 2: showing up to the run that happens on Saturday mornings 184 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 2: or go owing to the group thing because you're not 185 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 2: going to be the one that gets on the bike 186 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 2: and joins for the ride. Did you find ways to 187 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 2: stay engaged with that community or did you feel like 188 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 2: it was better for you not to. 189 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: You know, I went through massive changes. I discovered alcohol, 190 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: I went on a huge trip to Europe with my friends, 191 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: and I discovered food. You know, it's wild and so 192 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: my entire life changed. But one thing that stood clear 193 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: was I was obsessed with the human body and I 194 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: knew what it was capable of, especially as a woman. 195 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: I knew that there was something more to explore. And 196 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: I was just like I said, when I saw a 197 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: brain for the first time, because we go into Kadavlabs, 198 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: when I saw a brain for the first time, I 199 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: had this feeling inside me. I can't explain. It was like, 200 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 1: as I call it my first love. 201 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, just the idea of seeing an actual physical human 202 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 2: brain like totally gives me the shakes. 203 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like we got to cut one off. And you know, 204 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: I always say that it's the love of my life 205 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: because it's never let me down. We only argue once 206 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: a month, and it's it's been the greatest relationship. 207 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 2: That I've ever had, that you've ever had. Also, in 208 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 2: this hurdle moment period for you, adapting and making this pivot, 209 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 2: did you struggle with going from a very active lifestyle 210 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 2: to a less active lifestyle and perhaps some of the 211 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 2: body image issues. 212 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: I can come with that massively. You know what, it 213 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: was always trying to fit in. I was always trying. 214 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 1: So then I had to find new friends. So my 215 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: traath on friends you knew me. We were the exact same. 216 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 1: They also didn't want to go out and we were 217 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: just reading the same things and talking about the same things. 218 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 1: Then I started to migrate into another group that didn't exercise, 219 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: you know, they just you know, wanted to go out 220 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: like normal people. And I'm like, well I can't. You know, 221 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: I can't drink if we go out. And they're like why, 222 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that true, I can I'm not 223 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 1: getting up tomorrow. So it was just such a different 224 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: experience and reintroducing cabs, you know, going out with my 225 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: family and family functions and now I can eat. It 226 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 1: was a real big I know it sounds ridiculous. I 227 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: wasn't starving myself, but it was just I didn't have 228 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: to monitor anything. 229 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, very different. So when you make the pivot, what 230 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 2: do you say that you're going to do in terms 231 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 2: of schooling. 232 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 1: I thought, I need to study science or I need 233 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: to study medicine. And that's exactly what I did. So 234 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: finished my career as a quote unquote high school teacher 235 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 1: and then moved straight into medicine at Sydney University. And 236 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 1: I still didn't know what I wanted. There was always 237 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: something more for me. I'm that type of person that 238 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: is I could never be a full time employee, you know, 239 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: I couldn't. I always wanted to just keep achieving, keep 240 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: getting better and showing people that they can take control 241 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: of their lives if they understand their brain. I knew that, 242 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: but I needed to get the credentials or the certification. 243 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 1: I also needed to understand more about it myself. So 244 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: I literally wanted to go through and understand everything in 245 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: the body from the core sole biology all the way 246 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: up to how we see things and how we perceive things. 247 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 2: Which when you laid out like that, it seems quite overwhelming, 248 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 2: at least to me, to think about how much there 249 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 2: is to learn about the body. 250 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: Oh, you've got no idea, it's just it's insane. 251 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 2: So upon understanding that this was your desire, when do 252 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 2: you make the decision that the brain is one hundred 253 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 2: percent where it's at. 254 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,599 Speaker 1: So it was a real special time. I knew I 255 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: didn't want to give up on this elite athleticism world. 256 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: I loved soccer. I'm Greek. My parents were born and 257 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: raised in Cyprus, so we have a love for European soccer. 258 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: So I loved soccer and sport, and I knew back then, 259 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: let's think about twenty fourteen. Okay, this was the birth 260 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: of neuroathletics. People weren't talking about mindset. They weren't talking 261 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: about the brain. We had sports psychologists and I had 262 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: a lot of friends, okay, who were soccer players. And 263 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: there was this one soccer player in Australia. He played 264 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: for Australia, and he said, why don't you come and 265 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: do like a mindset kind of work out with us, 266 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: or you know, talked to us about mine? And I thought, 267 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: why can't I talk to you about the brain? He 268 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: didn't understand what I was talking about. And when I 269 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: went there, he said to me, he goes, hey, we 270 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: need to invoice you for your time. And I said okay, 271 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: and he goes, do you have a business? I said, yes, 272 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: I do. I actually didn't. So I went home and 273 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: I got online and I created what you guys call 274 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: an LLC. And I thought, what am I going to 275 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,239 Speaker 1: call my business? And it was literally I loved athletics 276 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: and I loved neuroscience. It was literally the intersection. And 277 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: that's how I created it. And that's when I went 278 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: out and I started just doing these workshops people and 279 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: it was about how can I teach people that the 280 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: brain is the hardware and the mind is the software. 281 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: And that's how I started. 282 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I love hearing knowing your backstory and knowing 283 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 2: that when you were young you were extremely entrepreneurial, because 284 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 2: that would be the next question that I would ask 285 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 2: typically is did you were you surrounded by, you know, 286 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 2: an entrepreneurial spirit from a young age or where do 287 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 2: you think that came from for you that when you 288 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 2: got older you of course were like, yes, I have 289 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 2: a business. 290 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's because my parents. I'm gonna have to go 291 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: into some to some backstory in history here. So my 292 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: grandparents flew, you know, from they didn't fly, actually, they 293 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: got on a ship from Cyprus. They landed in Australia 294 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: and they started a fish and chip shop. So this 295 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: is what we do as Greeks, we start businesses. So 296 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: my entire life, we didn't know anything else. It's always 297 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: my parents have always been in business. And then they 298 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: started a company. My grandfather started company called Babina, which 299 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: was a food wholesaler, and I just was around it 300 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: from a young age. My brother started his own company, 301 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: my cousins did. I never knew really what it would 302 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: be like to be an employee. So from like I said, 303 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: from a young age, I was always thinking about, oh 304 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: imagine if I did this for someone then they would 305 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: pay me. Oh, imagine what I could do in exchange 306 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: for money for my time. So it was always just 307 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: about how can I provide a service to somebody and 308 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: in exchange get money? 309 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 2: Right? Yeah, And so when you were like, yes, I 310 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 2: have a business, where did you at first decide what 311 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 2: your rates could be for something like that? 312 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: I just spat out a number and he said, okay, 313 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: so it's funny. So we have an Australian version of 314 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: Lulu Lemon. It's called Lorna Jane. I don't know if 315 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: it's even in America. 316 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we have it here. I went, it's 317 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 2: definitely in California. 318 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: Okay. I went to the store. 319 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 2: Someone's listening to this in LA and they're like, yes, 320 00:16:58,360 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 2: it's in California. 321 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: Emily went to the store and I asked them. I said, Hi, 322 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: my name is This was twenty fifteen. I said, Hi, 323 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:08,199 Speaker 1: my name is Louisa. I do mindset workshops. Would you 324 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 1: mind if I put one on here? And they're like, oh, 325 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 1: this is great, we would love that. So I literally did, 326 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: and around thirty women turned up. And then at the 327 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: end of it, I scribbled down on a piece of 328 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 1: paper I said, write your name and number anybody who 329 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: wants to come and do some private workshops with me, 330 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 1: And I ended up getting a list of ten. I 331 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: called them all up the next day and seven of 332 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 1: them said yes, and I just said great, the workshop 333 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: is for four weeks and it's fifteen hundred dollars. And 334 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,719 Speaker 1: those seven people said yes. I was like, where am 335 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 1: I going to do this now? You know? So that's 336 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 1: I just I still believe in doing that. I still 337 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 1: believe in just putting anything out there m hm, and 338 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: the rest will come. 339 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 2: Lean, startup, math head, Lean, startup math head. You know. 340 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 2: That's also so interesting, the moment where you throw something 341 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 2: into the wind and see if it sticks, because really 342 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 2: the worst thing that could happen is that you tried. Right. 343 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: Well, the worst thing that can happen, I honestly believe 344 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: is they say no, and then I go, well, okay, 345 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: move on to the next person. 346 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 2: Exactly. Yeah, there's no fear, right, it's well the next 347 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 2: person or the next thing. Yeah, Like, if that idea 348 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 2: didn't work, it wasn't as though you didn't have, you know, 349 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 2: more tricks up your sleeve. And when you say that 350 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 2: you went in there and ran that type of clinic. 351 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 2: What did that look like? 352 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: So I put together a four week curriculum, if you will, 353 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: on how to build a like getting to peak performance 354 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: so you can excel in business, in life, in relationships. 355 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: And I put together a four week course, and I 356 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 1: literally gave the education and the tools so these people 357 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 1: could better themselves every day. And we started working and 358 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 1: implementing things such as what are you eating, how are 359 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: you waking up in the morning. Morning routines were the 360 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 1: best night routines. So we literally came up. 361 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 2: With a curriculum right right, There's so many people listening 362 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 2: right now that would one hundred percent dive into this. 363 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 2: So this is on your website for that. Yes, well, 364 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 2: well you must keep listening because we will not let 365 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 2: you know about the website until the end of this, 366 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 2: so don't fast forward. You have to learn more about 367 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 2: your potential teacher, but we will provide you with all 368 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 2: the information that you need in case you want to 369 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 2: learn more and hack your personal performance. Okay, clearly a 370 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 2: successful business woman from the get go, so you're doing this. 371 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 2: The Australian version of Lulamon. Laurena Jean is your first 372 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 2: jumping off point. But then you take off from there. 373 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's let's go from there, okay. And then 374 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: I went into a job. Okay. I was hired as 375 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 1: a sales girl okay at Australia's largest or fastest growing company. Okay. 376 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 1: It was very much Wolf of Wall Street. So this 377 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 1: was at the exact same time as Lula Lemon. Someone 378 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 1: just hired me. I had no idea what sales were, 379 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: but I got picked out of one hundred people. I 380 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 1: went to the Yeah, I actually went to the onboarding 381 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 1: and you go through. It was like an entire week 382 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: and they picked me. And when I was sitting there, 383 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: there was one hundred of us and they gave us 384 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 1: a task and they said, okay, everybody needs to get 385 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: in groups of five and you need They gave us 386 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: blocks and they if I remember back then, they said, 387 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 1: you guys need to build blocks to become you know, 388 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: this is your business, and tell us we want the 389 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: fastest growing business. And people were just putting blocks on 390 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: blocks on blocks on blocks. And I thought, well, if 391 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:33,719 Speaker 1: everyone's got the same amount of blocks, and how are 392 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: we going to how are we going to be better? 393 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,719 Speaker 1: So I took my tower from my group and I 394 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: went right when the buzzer went. I placed it on 395 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 1: the next person and the owner of the company said 396 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 1: you what's your name and I said Louis. He goes, 397 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: why did you do that? And I said, well, joint ventures. 398 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: I said, we're going to build a you know, we'll 399 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 1: build more revenue if you know, combine our strategies. And 400 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: they hired me. And on my first day, I said 401 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: what am I doing here? And he goes, well, you've 402 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: been high as sales. And that was where I learned entrepreneurship. 403 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: So this was a we were selling programs, twelve month 404 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: programs for early stage business owners who were doing anywhere 405 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 1: from half a million to five million, and this company 406 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: was putting them through a twelve month entrepreneurial process from 407 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 1: how to build your business from scratch. So I learned 408 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: that entire process. I was also the top performer of 409 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: sales for twelve months in a room full of men 410 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: there was I was the only woman, only female salesperson. 411 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: So I learned sales and entrepreneurship. 412 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 2: And after twelve months, where you were like, my work 413 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 2: is done here, it's time to move forward. 414 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was a very crazy. It wasn't just 415 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: a normal twelve months This was a Wolf of All Street. 416 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: They like every time we made a sale, they would 417 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 1: There was one time where they hired like farm animals 418 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 1: to come in and be crazy. It was a yeah, 419 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: go and watch that movie. Yeah, that was a type 420 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 1: of experience I was. I was in and that's how 421 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 1: I built my business. I came to America and I 422 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: saw there is a place for me in this city. 423 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 1: There was not a place for me in Australia. Australia 424 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: is ten years behind the American market. 425 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 2: Okay, so came to New York City. 426 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 1: Jaws brought me here. For those of you who didn't 427 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: listen to the last episode, I mentioned that one girl 428 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,679 Speaker 1: reached out to me and said, can we hire you 429 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 1: for a workshop? And that was Julie Jaws Nelson. She 430 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,719 Speaker 1: helped me, I always tell I told her like she 431 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 1: she's the you know, she was the catalyst. She brought 432 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: me to the city. She got me into the fitness 433 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: industry here, and she also gave me a home. I said, 434 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 1: I don't know where I'm going to stay, and she said, 435 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: I can't let you go back to Australia. She said, 436 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 1: so you're going to stay at my place. Ah my God, 437 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 1: for free. 438 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 2: Ah. 439 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes my like I am. It's very emotional 440 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: when you think about that. So she gave me her apartment. 441 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 1: I stayed for three months. 442 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 2: I mean, it's so insane when you take a step 443 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 2: back and think about that story and what a profound 444 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 2: impact that this woman that like didn't know you very 445 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 2: well at all, like, let me do this for you. 446 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 2: It doesn't need to be something as grandoise as Grandioyce 447 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 2: says offering someone your home, but even the smallest thing 448 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 2: that you can do for someone else out of the 449 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 2: kindness of your own heart can literally make the world 450 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 2: of difference. 451 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: If it wasn't for her, I don't think I would 452 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: be here. She literally put me on a subway and 453 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 1: she said, this is how you catch a train in 454 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,239 Speaker 1: New York. She took me to class with her. I 455 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 1: was there when she was part of the She wasn't 456 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: part of Rumble at that time. It was a different place. 457 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 1: I also met Jess Simms back in that day, and 458 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: she helped me and Jeremiah. I say these names because 459 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: they these people really were the start. I didn't even 460 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 1: know what New York was. I didn't even know what 461 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 1: it was. I just knew it from Sex and the City. 462 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 1: So that was the start of it, and that's when 463 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: I knew there's something here. 464 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 2: So what did the foundations of building your business in 465 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 2: New York look for you at that time? I mean, 466 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 2: I would imagine there was a lot of running around 467 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 2: and a lot more of throwing things at the wall 468 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 2: and hoping that they stick. Well. 469 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: I had to see product to market fit. So I 470 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 1: had to hone in on do I want to work 471 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: with athletes? And athletes is a very broad spectrum. So 472 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: I thought, I'm going to just work with NFL and 473 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: NBA athletes, NFL because of the concussion crisis, NBA because 474 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,679 Speaker 1: I really think that I could make a dent in 475 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: the optimization space. So I started my podcast. This was 476 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: back in twenty twenty sixteen when I moved, or twenty seventeen, 477 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: actually September twenty seventeen. Started the podcast just as a 478 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: way to get my information out there. And I kept 479 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: getting asked, but Luisa, what is the service that you provide? 480 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: And it was literally consulting. I said, let me just 481 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: come in and consult to the teams. Let me just 482 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: come in and talk to you about better brain health. 483 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 1: You know, that's all I wanted to do. So that 484 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: was just literally I was just going for it and 485 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 1: then doing the podcast and just going for it. And 486 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 1: that's all I've been doing, just been focusing on perfecting 487 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:00,199 Speaker 1: my program so I can get better results for my 488 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: players on game day. Because I had this theory, I thought, 489 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 1: if these players are working to their best. You know 490 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: when when we think about how do we get better, 491 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 1: we always just look at the body. We say, well, 492 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: we need to train a bit more, we need to 493 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: get faster, we need to be our shooting accuracy needs 494 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 1: to be better. But we don't realize that shooting accuracy 495 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: comes from the brain. Okay, reaction time speed, information processing speed, 496 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: this all lives in the brain. So that's the that's 497 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 1: what I wanted to deliver to these athletes. 498 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, someone listening to this can hear you say I 499 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 2: knew I wanted to work with MBA and NFL teams. 500 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 2: And then their next question would be how did you 501 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 2: get in? 502 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: You know, I get asked that often and I'm literally 503 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: a girl from Australia who had nothing in this. When 504 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 1: I say nothing, I didn't even didn't have a social suit. 505 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: I just I now have a social security but I 506 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: didn't have a banking I did not know anything, and 507 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 1: I just I just turned up. I turned up to 508 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: Gary office one day back in I saw him on 509 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: YouTube and I turned up to his office and I 510 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: walked in and the security guard said, do you have 511 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: an appointment? I said no, and Gary came down and 512 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 1: I grabbed Gary. I said, listen, I've come all the 513 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 1: way from Australia. I've walked. I walked eight miles to 514 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: get to his To get to his office, it was 515 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: beaming hot. It was the middle of July, and he 516 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: invited me up to his office and we got talking 517 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: and he gave me a business strategy session. He was 518 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: the one that told me to start my podcast. Yeah. 519 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: So when I say that I turn up to places, 520 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: I will literally find out who the coach is of 521 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 1: that place, and I will turn up there in a 522 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 1: non stalking manner. 523 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 2: Has this ever worked out in a negative way for you? 524 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 1: No? Actually, no one has said no just yet or 525 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: called the cops or anything. 526 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 2: It's remarkable, right, I mean it goes back to the 527 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 2: idea of what's the worst thing that could happen? 528 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: Right, That's what I kept saying, And I had nothing 529 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: to lose. When you're not. You know, I wasn't like this, 530 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: this relentless in Australia because it's like I knew everyone. 531 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: I was like, if I do do this is someone 532 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 1: could find out. But here I knew not if I 533 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: got literally smacked in the face or bad mouth, it'd 534 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 1: be like, well, I'll just go back to Australia, you know. 535 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: But thankfully, you know, this could explain why one hundred 536 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: percent or ninety eight percent of my clientele is men. 537 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's it's worked out for me. And I 538 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 1: got to tell you it hasn't been easy. Nothing has 539 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,360 Speaker 1: been given to me I have. I've knocked on doors, 540 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 1: I've done anything I could to get there, and I'm 541 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:34,479 Speaker 1: still I'm still working. 542 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 2: What would you say the most challenging part of upkeeping 543 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 2: your businesses? Right now? 544 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: So we've migrated into a new area and that's Wall Street. 545 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: And this comes from about eighteen months ago. Somebody, one 546 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: of my NBA players put me in touch with his 547 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: portfolio manager and he said, you know you guys always, 548 00:27:58,200 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: can you just go and talk to him. I'm like, 549 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: what do you want me to talk to him about? 550 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: He goes, he's really stressed. I know he goes you 551 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 1: just go and talk to him. I'm like, okay, So 552 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: I you know, I started speaking with this man. So 553 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: he's got fifty billion under asset management, so he's a 554 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: portfolio managers responsible, he's got many traders under his belt. 555 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: And he said, Luis A, I've had a decline in 556 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: my performance. And I said how So he said, I 557 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: don't know something's wrong with me. I don't know what 558 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: I'm doing. So I said, okay, I said, I'm gonna 559 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 1: do a brain scan. So I forgot to tell you 560 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: that one of the biggest things that we have in neuroathletics. 561 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: We have an hospital grade EEG. So we actually do 562 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: brain scans on all of our athletes, so there's no 563 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: lies in what we do. So when we upgrade their 564 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: brain performance, we literally do a map of their brain. 565 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: So I did that for this for this gentleman. And 566 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: his brain looks he was he's forty nine or he 567 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: was back then, and his brain looked sixty five years old. 568 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: So this map puts you on a normative data and 569 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: it says to you, well, this is what a brain 570 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: of a forty nine year old person should look like. 571 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: And he was aging. His brain was literally aging, and 572 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: so I said, the reason why you're having a decline 573 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: in your information processing, speeding, your reaction, timing, your decision 574 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: making is because your brain is aging at an accelerated rate. 575 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: And that's scary because he was he was doing so 576 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: many wrong things. He was drinking his worries away, being 577 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: you know, abusive to his wife, and he had kids 578 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: and it was just it was a mess. It was 579 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: a mess because of his brain. So we literally put 580 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: him on He's still with us today and that was 581 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: the catalyst into Wall Street because he's like, he goes, 582 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,239 Speaker 1: you need to work with all of my traders. I 583 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: was like, okay, So I started working with them and 584 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:51,239 Speaker 1: then word caught on and I'm now neuroathletics is in 585 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: two spaces. We are in the athletic space and we 586 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: are now in the financial space. And that's huge. 587 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's very huge. 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The next natural 628 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 2: question is when after this initial brain scan and you 629 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 2: start to work with people and you start talking about 630 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 2: these key metrics or these key benchmarks that you want 631 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 2: to home in on so that they can be more 632 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 2: of a high performer. The hurdlers want to know. 633 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, so we now have a very systemized process at neuroathletics. 634 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: It's no longer a loiser just goes in and just 635 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: does whatever. We've got a team of eight now and 636 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: this we've really honed in on our process. So we 637 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: work in three domains. We work in the exercise domain. 638 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: We then work in the sleep I also I call 639 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: it neuro physiology, brain physiology and sleep falls underneath that, 640 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: and then the nutritional domain. These three domains are free 641 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: really to everybody. Sleep is free, exercise is free, and 642 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: what you put into your mouth is your decision. So 643 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: everyone can be working on this stuff. But here's the thing, 644 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: and this goes back into medicine. You know, you can 645 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: have five patients who all have multiple scrosis MS, but 646 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 1: their treatment plans are different because they've all got you know, 647 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: different varying types of multiple scrosses. So it's not just 648 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: a well, they've all got MS, so we're going to 649 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: give them all the medication. No, it's they've all got MS, 650 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: but some of it is elerating faster, they're at different stages, 651 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 1: et cetera. So it becomes their own treatment plan. Just 652 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: like the brain scan, we find out what does your 653 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: brain look like under the microscope, and how can we 654 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: make it better through a nutritional protocol which is right 655 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:20,359 Speaker 1: for your brain, through a sleep protocol that is right 656 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 1: for your routine and your brain, and then obviously everything else. 657 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 1: So what does it look like. Let's let's dive. Do 658 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: you want to dive into these three pillars? 659 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 2: Let's do it. 660 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:35,720 Speaker 1: Okay, let's start with exercise. Everybody exercises, well, everybody tries 661 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:36,320 Speaker 1: to exercise. 662 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,399 Speaker 2: I would say that everyone that is listening to this 663 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:42,280 Speaker 2: episode right now has some sort of an exercise routine, 664 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 2: although at times it may slip a little bit, they 665 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 2: care passionately about moving their body great. 666 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 1: And then I always want to know why, like are 667 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: we doing I know I gave a talk for Tonal 668 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,919 Speaker 1: a month ago, and I spoke about the reasons why 669 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: we should all be going to the gym to build 670 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 1: our brain. Okay, because exercise is one of the fundamental 671 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: things that you can do for brain performance. So if 672 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: we split exercise up into aerobic that's running, cycling, whatever, 673 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: that is really good for the brain. You're getting increased 674 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 1: oxygen to the brain. You're working on these capillaries, okay, 675 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 1: you call them capillaries in this country, and so that's 676 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: going to get increased blood flow and oxygen to the brain. 677 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: That's app Then we've also got resistance training and that's 678 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 1: the key driver of so many beneficial things, such as 679 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 1: for your brain. So you can literally stave off Alzheimer's 680 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 1: disease by twenty years by doing resistance training three times 681 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 1: a week. So resistance training is so imperative for brain health. 682 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 1: We get a rapid release of myokinds. Okay, they're called 683 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 1: muscle based proteins. So what happens when we resistance train 684 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 1: is these myokinds get released and then they go up, 685 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: They cross the blood brain barrier, and they have an 686 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,280 Speaker 1: effect on our cognitive functions. They also have an effect 687 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 1: on the structural process of our brain. So you can 688 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 1: grow your brain, literally grow it, just like you grow 689 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: your bicep by resistance training. Isn't that wild? Like that's 690 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:17,359 Speaker 1: really wild to me. Okay, it's wild the fact that 691 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: we can change the structure of our brain by resistance 692 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: training alone. Okay, what does more brain tissue mean? Just 693 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:32,439 Speaker 1: better cognitive processes, bigger brain, smarter whatever. So we put 694 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 1: into place these resistance training programs for these athletes, hedge 695 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: find portfolio managers. Then let's move on to another form. 696 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: We've got our own proprietary training regime. It's called neuroathletics. 697 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: Literally it's brain training, So we have different things where 698 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 1: you can literally train your brain. We do reaction training exercises, 699 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,839 Speaker 1: we work with lights, we work with balls. 700 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:57,280 Speaker 2: Et cetera. 701 00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 1: So that becomes part of it. 702 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 2: Can we also talk about cognitive exercises because I guess 703 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 2: that a lot of us are actually becoming more aware 704 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 2: of the benefits of literal brain exercises, whether they be 705 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 2: something like the wordle or a crossword. I've been doing 706 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 2: a lot more of that as I've gotten older. 707 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 1: You know that's great, But I'm going to get you 708 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 1: onto neuroathletics training. Okay, and it just requires two balls. 709 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,320 Speaker 1: We actually have them. They're called neuroballs. But my team 710 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 1: is like, we should come up with a new word 711 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 1: for that. And it really doesn't take much. You just 712 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 1: have to do it five minutes a day and you 713 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 1: are growing your brain. So it's literally if you just 714 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 1: get a ball, you're working on your reaction time. You 715 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,879 Speaker 1: just throw the ball to the wall. Okay, You're also 716 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 1: working on hand eye coordination. Then you can do other 717 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 1: things such as you can stand on one leg and 718 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,840 Speaker 1: do it, and you're working on balancing, and that's involving 719 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 1: the cerebellum, an area of your brain, a little part 720 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 1: of your brain at the back. So there's so many 721 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,359 Speaker 1: different things that you can do to train your brain, 722 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 1: and we neglect these because we think, what's you know, 723 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 1: we're not going to lose weight by doing Okay, so 724 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 1: that's the exercise regime. Then we move on to nutritional 725 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 1: and we outsource our nutrition. But the one thing that 726 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 1: we do is we do a lot of supplement protocols. 727 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 1: And your listeners may be thinking, but Louise, I'm really healthy. 728 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 1: I don't really need supplements, and I beg to differ. 729 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 1: You know, let's first take I think the most crucial 730 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 1: thing for your brain when it comes to supplementation and 731 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:28,319 Speaker 1: nutrients is Amiga three fish oil. And the reason being 732 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:33,799 Speaker 1: is that your brain is actually made of fat, predominantly dha. 733 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 1: Now Amiga three is epa, dha and ala, so if 734 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,319 Speaker 1: it's literally made of dha, you should be refeeding it 735 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 1: that dha. Sadly, in this country, some of the fish 736 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 1: may not be the best thing. 737 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:52,799 Speaker 2: For your your poor grandparents and parents listening to that. 738 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, that's why I go to Greece in 739 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 1: the summer and I get the fresh court wild caught salmon. 740 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,360 Speaker 1: But now it's like, you have to be supplementing with 741 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 1: a Mega three. You want to feed your brain, right, 742 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 1: it also lowers cortisol, inflammation, et cetera. So it's it 743 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,840 Speaker 1: is the utmost one of the most important nutrients you 744 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 1: can do for your brain. 745 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 2: It's so interesting hearing all of this. I mean, so 746 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 2: many different components to a really beautiful picture of overall wellness. 747 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 2: But these days everyone wants to know what's the easiest, 748 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 2: the one fix, the one thing that you can do. 749 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 2: And what you're saying is it's not that simple. 750 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,279 Speaker 1: It's not. No, it's funny. We had a meeting with 751 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,319 Speaker 1: a branding agency and they're like, Louis, you need to 752 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 1: simplify everything. I'm like, no, I can't, because if I did, 753 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 1: then it takes away from what we do. You know, 754 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 1: I went to school for ten years to study this structure. 755 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 1: It shouldn't be easy, right, you know, you go into 756 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,879 Speaker 1: brain surgery, you know you've got to understand the brain 757 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 1: and it's not easy. So I wish I could, but 758 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:52,360 Speaker 1: it's not that simple. So have you ever heard of 759 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 1: a sweat test. 760 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've done them before. 761 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 1: Oh really, yes, that's amazing. We do those for all 762 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,799 Speaker 1: of our players. And the the reason being is that 763 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,760 Speaker 1: because you realize that if you've got just like even 764 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,920 Speaker 1: a two percent drop in your hydration, it can really 765 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 1: negatively affect your reaction time and your attention and your focus. 766 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,280 Speaker 1: And sadly, a lot of people just hydrate with water 767 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 1: and that's really great. But our brain. Okay, so remember 768 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,880 Speaker 1: how I spoke to you in the last episode about neurons. 769 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 1: So we have anywhere from eighty to one hundred billion 770 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,799 Speaker 1: neurons in our brain. They are nerve cells, and the 771 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:33,520 Speaker 1: way they communicate with each other is via an action potential. 772 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 1: And this action potential has this thing called a sodium 773 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 1: potassium pump, dating back to like high school biology here. 774 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:45,880 Speaker 1: But what is that sodium potassium pump? Electrolytes. Sodium potassium. 775 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 1: We need to be feeding our neurons with electrolytes, So 776 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 1: we do these sweat tests on our athletes to see 777 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 1: how much sweat or electrolytes are you burning throughout the day, 778 00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,799 Speaker 1: or how much are you getting rid of so they 779 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 1: can replace it and optimize it. So these are just 780 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,279 Speaker 1: little things. You know this I can, I can riff 781 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 1: on about a million different nutrients ad a really good 782 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 1: fear brain. 783 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 2: For you these days. If you took a step back 784 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:15,320 Speaker 2: and you looked at your own individual wellness routine, would 785 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 2: you say that you are quote unquote equally filling up 786 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 2: the buckets. You're thinking the same amount of priority when 787 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 2: it comes to exercises, you are about sleep as you 788 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 2: are about maybe like how you're filling your cup up 789 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,880 Speaker 2: during the day. Or do you yourself struggle in any of 790 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:31,280 Speaker 2: one of these particular areas. 791 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I mean, you could just take one 792 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 1: look at me and it would be clear indication that 793 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 1: I struggle, And I'll tell you why. I never give 794 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:41,280 Speaker 1: myself out. But right now in the stage of life 795 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 1: that I'm going really hard with my company where you know, 796 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:49,799 Speaker 1: we're in many different hedge fund spaces now we're just 797 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:51,680 Speaker 1: we're going crazy, and I'm spending a lot of time 798 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 1: on that, and I'm I've taken a back seat with 799 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,880 Speaker 1: the nutrition pillar. And that's probably some sort of like 800 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 1: psychological thing. I need to see someone about that, because 801 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,600 Speaker 1: when I get stressed and anxious and freaked out, my 802 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:10,360 Speaker 1: tendency isn't to go towards anything such as drugs or alcohol. 803 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:11,920 Speaker 1: I've never been inclined. 804 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:11,920 Speaker 2: To do that. 805 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,719 Speaker 1: I do turn to food if I'm really stressed, and 806 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:19,360 Speaker 1: I'm just I don't. I can't beat that right now, 807 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,239 Speaker 1: as in like Luisa, don't get the muffin, don't get 808 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 1: the chocolate. But I don't have the mental capacity right 809 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:27,759 Speaker 1: now to say no because of where I'm at with 810 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 1: my business, so that takes a back seat. But sleep 811 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 1: never takes a back seat for me for some reason. 812 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,759 Speaker 1: I'm just that is my heart of hearts. And I 813 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:41,719 Speaker 1: always exercise because if I don't, I will literally I'll 814 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,759 Speaker 1: fall apart. My exercise is also not the best. I 815 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:49,440 Speaker 1: mean I train every day, okay, but it could it 816 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,360 Speaker 1: be better. Like me being I was a professional athlete, 817 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 1: I know what I'm capable of. I'm not there either, 818 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,880 Speaker 1: and it's in my head. I'm just going through probably 819 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 1: one of the biggest parts of my company were restructuring 820 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 1: a lot, and hopefully once it gets to where it is, 821 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,120 Speaker 1: I will definitely be back there. 822 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:12,360 Speaker 2: I think as someone who works with the brain, you 823 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 2: also have an awareness of the importance of grace and 824 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,440 Speaker 2: compassion with yourself as you go through this major life 825 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:20,680 Speaker 2: moment for yourself. 826 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,520 Speaker 1: The things that I don't skimp out on is the 827 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,279 Speaker 1: non negotiables. I get sunlight everything. And I'm also a 828 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 1: creature of habits. So every morning you'll see me the 829 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,759 Speaker 1: exact same time, do the exact same thing. Always get 830 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,719 Speaker 1: my sunlight. I'm always feeding my brain with nutrition. I'm 831 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:38,120 Speaker 1: always hydrated. I don't I'm not a drinker. I'm just 832 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 1: I'm just not. So I'm blessed for that. So I 833 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,960 Speaker 1: don't have to like, oh, I can't drink tonight. I'm 834 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 1: just don't drink. I don't take drugs, I don't smoke. 835 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,239 Speaker 1: So I'm blessed in that aspect. The only bad thing 836 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 1: is and it's not even that bad. I mean it's 837 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,280 Speaker 1: it is being very mindful of what I'm eating. 838 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,840 Speaker 2: So you mentioned the word habit, which I think is 839 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 2: something that a lot of people strive to upkeep. They 840 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:07,160 Speaker 2: want to have healthy habits. Now, forming routines and creating 841 00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 2: habits that you can stick with at times can be 842 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 2: super challenging. So with your expertise, what would you say 843 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,359 Speaker 2: to someone who is trying to perhaps start off their 844 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,920 Speaker 2: day with some healthier habits and they're having a hard 845 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 2: time sticking with it. 846 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,920 Speaker 1: My first thing is I always look at why. We 847 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,560 Speaker 1: do these things called maps, you know, we get it. 848 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:32,360 Speaker 1: We literally get a mental map of your habits in 849 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,600 Speaker 1: the past, the triggers and the routines, and then we 850 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 1: put you on a strategy to upgrade those. I always 851 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,320 Speaker 1: start with why. First of all, what is the habit 852 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:44,799 Speaker 1: you're trying to create and why? And if it is just, oh, 853 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,880 Speaker 1: just to be healthier, it's not going to work. You 854 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:49,919 Speaker 1: really have to get to the core and the root 855 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:53,920 Speaker 1: of why, which is why. I think education is the 856 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,680 Speaker 1: best thing for anybody, and we'll consolve a lot of 857 00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,920 Speaker 1: the world's problems. So if you're trying to two gets, 858 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,600 Speaker 1: you know, trying to pick a routine every morning, I 859 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 1: would say start small, don't put so much pressure on 860 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,040 Speaker 1: your brain. Just start really, it could just be getting 861 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:11,400 Speaker 1: up at seven am. That's all you have to do. 862 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 1: Just wake up and just go outside. That's it. Let 863 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 1: that sink in for fourteen days, two weeks. Then introduce 864 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 1: a new a new thing on top of that new routine, 865 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,880 Speaker 1: and it could be setting an alarm, drink drink a 866 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,279 Speaker 1: liter of water by midday, so just start off. I 867 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,640 Speaker 1: cannot express enough if you go and put so much. 868 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 1: You know people who are like, okay, I just want 869 00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 1: to get fit, or what is it? Dry July? Is 870 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:35,799 Speaker 1: that a thing? Dry? 871 00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:36,360 Speaker 2: January? 872 00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:37,359 Speaker 1: Okay? Dry? 873 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,759 Speaker 2: Certainly? Not dry to ly? How people are not doing 874 00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:40,680 Speaker 2: a dry summer month. 875 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,239 Speaker 1: I don't know anyone who's really doing that many dry 876 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,759 Speaker 1: months in this city. But it's literally, don't put so 877 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:50,239 Speaker 1: much pressure on yourself. Just do one thing at a 878 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,000 Speaker 1: time and create that habit, then move on to the 879 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:53,520 Speaker 1: next thing. 880 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,399 Speaker 2: And I love that takeaway of finding your why. It's 881 00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 2: something that certainly we've touched on on the show before, 882 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,480 Speaker 2: this idea that if you see someone doing something and 883 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,520 Speaker 2: it looks cool and that you think that you could 884 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 2: also have a good time doing it, like okay, but 885 00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,040 Speaker 2: ask yourself, is this really a habit or a thing 886 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,359 Speaker 2: that has purpose for me? Is this something that I 887 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:16,080 Speaker 2: feel passionate about? Because if you are taking the charge 888 00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 2: based on somebody else's fire, then that fire is going 889 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,040 Speaker 2: to dwindle real quick, real fast. 890 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. But it's that's what it's like in every aspect 891 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,800 Speaker 1: of life. We see something now on Instagram and we 892 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,640 Speaker 1: want to be that person. We want to wear those clothes, 893 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,960 Speaker 1: we want to do those things, and you just have 894 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,399 Speaker 1: to start with examining yourself. I think that's the best 895 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 1: thing that I do. One of my routines is I 896 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,960 Speaker 1: put everything on paper. If you see me and you 897 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:45,239 Speaker 1: see my apartment, I've filled up, literally, I've filled up 898 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,439 Speaker 1: like tens of thousands of books with just if I've 899 00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 1: got a thought in my head, I write it down. 900 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,279 Speaker 1: And that's probably the best thing that you can do. 901 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,200 Speaker 2: I love that you get it out, you put it 902 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:56,040 Speaker 2: out in four world. 903 00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:57,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, anything I think. 904 00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,560 Speaker 2: About, Wow, maybe I need to start taking it from you. 905 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 906 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,959 Speaker 2: So right now, as you are building your business, how 907 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,160 Speaker 2: are you taking care of yourself? What's your self care 908 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:08,920 Speaker 2: routine look like? 909 00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:13,960 Speaker 1: So it differs from Australia and here. So in Australia, 910 00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,719 Speaker 1: I have my apartment, I've got an ice bath there. 911 00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 1: I'm about to get my own sauna as well. So 912 00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,760 Speaker 1: many things are available to us. I've got the beach 913 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,600 Speaker 1: right at my forefront, so I go out, I exercise 914 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,839 Speaker 1: every morning, I go to the beach. But let's talk 915 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:30,480 Speaker 1: about where we're at right now, because all of your 916 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,600 Speaker 1: listeners aren't in Australia, okay there, whether they're in New 917 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:37,680 Speaker 1: York City. One thing that I do is I take 918 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:41,920 Speaker 1: time away from my phone. Okay, that might sound really simple, 919 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,720 Speaker 1: but when I say take time away from my phone, 920 00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,960 Speaker 1: I pretend my phone doesn't exist and it's not in 921 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,279 Speaker 1: my existence. So I don't see notifications, I don't see 922 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,200 Speaker 1: other people, etc. I do take care of my sleep 923 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:57,359 Speaker 1: and my routines, and I take care of myself in 924 00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:01,440 Speaker 1: terms of you know, I I look at myself as 925 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,440 Speaker 1: a separate person, and I'll look outside of myself and 926 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:09,120 Speaker 1: I will literally feel like, Luisa, you are abusing yourself. 927 00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,960 Speaker 1: If you eat this, you are abusing yourself if you 928 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,239 Speaker 1: don't sleep, if you don't think this way and act 929 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,360 Speaker 1: this way. I'm mindful of the way I talk to 930 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,680 Speaker 1: myself because that used to be my biggest downfall. So 931 00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:24,040 Speaker 1: I'm mindful of that. But in terms of self care, 932 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,480 Speaker 1: I go and see a physical therapist. Now I get 933 00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,400 Speaker 1: dry needling, and I literally do that as a habit 934 00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,200 Speaker 1: every two weeks. I think that's really important too. 935 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, there's just so many different ways that 936 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,719 Speaker 2: we have the opportunity to take care of ourselves and 937 00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,920 Speaker 2: articulating what feels good for you, just like we're saying, 938 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,160 Speaker 2: don't pick up on goals or start getting into things 939 00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,360 Speaker 2: that don't actually make you excited, that don't tie to 940 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,840 Speaker 2: your why. It's the same with your self care practice. 941 00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,560 Speaker 2: So just because you see someone that's taking epsom salt 942 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,720 Speaker 2: baths and like watching who knows why in their tub, 943 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,120 Speaker 2: if that's something that you actually dread and then that's 944 00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:58,960 Speaker 2: not what you need to do for self care. You 945 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:00,840 Speaker 2: need to do what feels right you and your body. 946 00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:04,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. I've also started growing my own sprouts. 947 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:05,400 Speaker 2: Oh I love this really. 948 00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I grow my own broccoli sprouts and my 949 00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,960 Speaker 1: own monk. Like my place is full of sprouts. So 950 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,000 Speaker 1: I ate a lot of sprouts. And I love cooking, 951 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,560 Speaker 1: so I cook for myself. And look, if I'm ever 952 00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,239 Speaker 1: not with anyone, sometimes they take myself out on a 953 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:22,600 Speaker 1: date and I know you're big on that. 954 00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,719 Speaker 2: I love a little solo date action. I love a 955 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,880 Speaker 2: little solo date action. So one of the final topics 956 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,000 Speaker 2: that I want to chat with you about today is 957 00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:34,680 Speaker 2: we're talking about high performers, your bread and butter. Also, 958 00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,120 Speaker 2: so many of these individuals under a lot of pressure. 959 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,759 Speaker 2: Many people listening to this right now can relate to 960 00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,360 Speaker 2: whether it's in the workday or just in life, that 961 00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,640 Speaker 2: everything can feel heavy and that they can feel like 962 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:50,680 Speaker 2: they are also under a lot of pressure. What would 963 00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,839 Speaker 2: you say to them for tricks or what advice would 964 00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:57,280 Speaker 2: you offer to people when it comes to staying calm 965 00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:58,520 Speaker 2: under pressure. 966 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a huge one and it's one that everybody 967 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:06,600 Speaker 1: needs to experience. First of all, you have to realize 968 00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:11,480 Speaker 1: that everything you do on a daily basis is preparing 969 00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,520 Speaker 1: you for that moment of breakdown or is preparing you 970 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,640 Speaker 1: for that moment of burnout. So what I want everyone 971 00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,200 Speaker 1: to be mindful for is what do I do when 972 00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:23,040 Speaker 1: I start to panic instead of that? Okay, because there 973 00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:26,160 Speaker 1: are multiple strategies that we can talk about. Let's track 974 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,000 Speaker 1: back and reverse engineer it. What can we do to 975 00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,400 Speaker 1: shield us from that? And it all starts with having 976 00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,520 Speaker 1: a you know, you can have a bulletproof brain and body, 977 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,640 Speaker 1: because the more that you shield just of the stronger 978 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:41,439 Speaker 1: you are, the better that you can stave off these 979 00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:45,160 Speaker 1: moments of high pressure situations. Because the one thing that 980 00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:48,480 Speaker 1: you don't want is to say something. We've all been there, 981 00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:53,080 Speaker 1: say something in a heated moment that you will regret. 982 00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:58,560 Speaker 1: So every day, getting a morning routine, bulletproof morning routine 983 00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,480 Speaker 1: and a bulletproof night routine. And this involves, like I said, 984 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,440 Speaker 1: going out and getting natural sunlight, but also doing breath 985 00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,360 Speaker 1: work if you can spend and I usually say do 986 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,160 Speaker 1: breath work at around two pm every day if you can, 987 00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,400 Speaker 1: because that's when a lot of people feel a slump 988 00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,600 Speaker 1: in their performance and they kind of feel like they're 989 00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,439 Speaker 1: going downhill. So if you can take five minutes at 990 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,759 Speaker 1: two pm or during the day and just sit there 991 00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:24,560 Speaker 1: in silence and just focus on your breathing, that is 992 00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,839 Speaker 1: going to have a massive effect on your performance and 993 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:28,680 Speaker 1: how you react. 994 00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,840 Speaker 2: I've been using this new app called Open. Have you 995 00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,799 Speaker 2: heard of it? No, there's this app called Open that 996 00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,480 Speaker 2: I've been using and they have a bunch of different 997 00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,319 Speaker 2: breathwork options from ranging from one minute so you could 998 00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,160 Speaker 2: do breathwork for twenty minutes and more. I'm even sure, 999 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,560 Speaker 2: and I just it's I haven't messed it up yet, 1000 00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,440 Speaker 2: So maybe that's why I like it so much. Yeah, 1001 00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,000 Speaker 2: I'm sure there's some mental thing in that. 1002 00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, And look, you've got to really look at like 1003 00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,680 Speaker 1: when you say high procsistion. So I've got one of 1004 00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,239 Speaker 1: my Miami Heat boys. He always says, always when I go, 1005 00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:00,560 Speaker 1: I'm really clear. But when a soon as he goes 1006 00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,040 Speaker 1: on the courts, soon as he hears that whistle, everything 1007 00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,960 Speaker 1: comes crashing down in his head. Okay, I don't want 1008 00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:07,279 Speaker 1: to let my parents down, I don't want to let 1009 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:08,839 Speaker 1: the coach down, don't want to let my team down. 1010 00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:12,000 Speaker 1: So he goes through a lot and he just keeps overthinking, overthinking. 1011 00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,279 Speaker 1: One of the strategies we put in place is an 1012 00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,960 Speaker 1: anchoring strategy. So this is a I call it a 1013 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:20,840 Speaker 1: real time strategy, so this is not something shielded himself 1014 00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:24,160 Speaker 1: from happens in the moment. Soon as he starts to 1015 00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:28,440 Speaker 1: overthink on the court, I get him to have a 1016 00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:32,040 Speaker 1: he performs a physical cue such as clicking okay, and 1017 00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:33,680 Speaker 1: as soon as he clicks or as soon as he 1018 00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:37,000 Speaker 1: hits himself whatever, like slaps his leg, he has to 1019 00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:41,200 Speaker 1: anchor that thought and think of his greatest moment. So 1020 00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:44,400 Speaker 1: we have mapped out even photos. I've got him to 1021 00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:48,640 Speaker 1: print out his greatest moments okay, and he's literally print 1022 00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:50,480 Speaker 1: out so it's embedded in his brain. So as soon 1023 00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,759 Speaker 1: as he performs that anchoring technique on the court, he 1024 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,720 Speaker 1: thinks about his greatest moment and then he's immediately changed 1025 00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:57,120 Speaker 1: his thought. 1026 00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:58,520 Speaker 2: I love the idea of an anchor. 1027 00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:02,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's a physiological anchor. You can literally perform 1028 00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,640 Speaker 1: any Q and anchor it. So you turn that thought around. 1029 00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,200 Speaker 2: My life coach taught me to do PQ reps. 1030 00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:09,799 Speaker 1: Oh what's a PEAKQ rep? 1031 00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:14,200 Speaker 2: Oh? Am I going to teach you something. I forget 1032 00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:19,200 Speaker 2: what the actual what it's short for, but basically different 1033 00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,880 Speaker 2: like anchoring behaviors, so to speak, that would help you 1034 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,600 Speaker 2: like come back to focusing on this one thing that 1035 00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:28,120 Speaker 2: is aside from your anxiety, similar to just taking some 1036 00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,759 Speaker 2: deep breaths and maybe doing a box breath. So an 1037 00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:34,000 Speaker 2: example of a pqrap could be rubbing your fingers together 1038 00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,600 Speaker 2: for two minutes and solely thinking about the sensation that 1039 00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,560 Speaker 2: is happening between your two fingers instead of everything else 1040 00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:41,960 Speaker 2: that's going on in your day. And so to your 1041 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,840 Speaker 2: point about doing the breathwork at two pm, I find 1042 00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:48,440 Speaker 2: myself like stopping and doing a PQ rep at two pm. 1043 00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,799 Speaker 1: But see a lot of people don't think to themselves. 1044 00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:53,560 Speaker 1: You know, you could have a really normal day and 1045 00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,000 Speaker 1: you'll be like, I'm really not stressed today. Why would 1046 00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:57,959 Speaker 1: I do that? You know, at twelve pm, why would 1047 00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:02,200 Speaker 1: I stop and do these PQ reps? And then at 1048 00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,200 Speaker 1: three pm something would happen and then they could fire up. 1049 00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,840 Speaker 1: And that's happened to me. I've been completely normal, you know, 1050 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:11,360 Speaker 1: completely fine, and then something something will happen and I 1051 00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:15,080 Speaker 1: will have the ability to literally, you know, go crazy. 1052 00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:18,160 Speaker 1: So you have to be deliberate with your strategies. You 1053 00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:19,880 Speaker 1: have to be deliberate with your sleep, with what you 1054 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,600 Speaker 1: put in your mouth, with who you talk to, with 1055 00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,640 Speaker 1: who you surround yourself with, from the advice that you 1056 00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,279 Speaker 1: take in. I've got a new rule. It was a 1057 00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:32,080 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two rule. I don't take advice from people 1058 00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:36,000 Speaker 1: who who are not doing better than me in that 1059 00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:38,879 Speaker 1: aspect of life. It's like a new thing. And that's 1060 00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:40,839 Speaker 1: really hard for some people because as soon as someone 1061 00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,759 Speaker 1: gives me unwanted advice, it used to really affect me. 1062 00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:47,400 Speaker 1: But I caution them, I stop them, I say, how 1063 00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,399 Speaker 1: much is your business doing? Are you in business? You're 1064 00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,520 Speaker 1: not in business, don't give me the advice. Call thanks. 1065 00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:56,439 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I have chills. I'm like excited, so 1066 00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,600 Speaker 1: and I do want to end this note by saying 1067 00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:03,319 Speaker 1: that anxiety is just to build up of these unwanted 1068 00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,239 Speaker 1: thoughts that are not real, something that you believe to 1069 00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:10,359 Speaker 1: be true that's going to happen in the future. And 1070 00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:14,080 Speaker 1: one thing that I'm doing right now with myself, because 1071 00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,120 Speaker 1: I can fall into a pit of anxious thoughts, we 1072 00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:19,560 Speaker 1: all can, I stop myself and I stop it at 1073 00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:25,279 Speaker 1: it is. Instead of saying, well my relationship is like 1074 00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,680 Speaker 1: this because of X y Z, or I'm in this 1075 00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,680 Speaker 1: situation because of XYZ, I just say I'm in this situation. 1076 00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,560 Speaker 1: It just is, and then I just stop. It's like 1077 00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:37,840 Speaker 1: a wall, it just is, and you can change it. 1078 00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,200 Speaker 2: You can change it. It's the idea. This is how 1079 00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,839 Speaker 2: it is now, and it's going to be different in 1080 00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,680 Speaker 2: five seconds, and it was different five seconds ago. And 1081 00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,400 Speaker 2: all you can you moving forward is the best with 1082 00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:53,280 Speaker 2: what you have in this moment. What excites you right now. 1083 00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:57,399 Speaker 1: What excites me right now is this new opportunity of 1084 00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:00,560 Speaker 1: moving into you know, we only, like I said, we're 1085 00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:04,760 Speaker 1: only working with NBA and NFL players. I'm very excited 1086 00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:08,200 Speaker 1: about this finance space. I'm really excited to take on 1087 00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:11,839 Speaker 1: Wall Street and go I want every single hedge fund 1088 00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,120 Speaker 1: to think. We looked up. There's seven hundred and fifty 1089 00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:17,400 Speaker 1: hedge funds give or take in New York City alone, 1090 00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:19,319 Speaker 1: and I want every single one of them to know 1091 00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:19,879 Speaker 1: who we are. 1092 00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:23,960 Speaker 2: What a powerful, powerful statement. That's so amazing. I love it. 1093 00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,520 Speaker 2: I love it all. If you had to reflect on 1094 00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,600 Speaker 2: the last year and think about some of the best 1095 00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:32,040 Speaker 2: advice that you've received as an entrepreneur, what would you 1096 00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:33,399 Speaker 2: say that would be. 1097 00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:37,960 Speaker 1: Coming down? If anyone can you know, if you could 1098 00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,000 Speaker 1: all watch me, I'm doing like a Cone feature. It 1099 00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:43,239 Speaker 1: is really honing in on the one person. You know, 1100 00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,799 Speaker 1: I used to think about you think about entrepreneurship, be 1101 00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:47,800 Speaker 1: like how many people can I help in the world? 1102 00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:51,000 Speaker 1: And look, instead of just I nailed it down to 1103 00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:51,800 Speaker 1: one person. 1104 00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:52,800 Speaker 2: Who is it? 1105 00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:54,960 Speaker 1: It's that one person. It's like that avatar, right, you 1106 00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:58,080 Speaker 1: come down, It's like, who's your ideal customer advatar? It is, Yeah, 1107 00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:01,560 Speaker 1: it is that person where one margin or one percent 1108 00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:06,040 Speaker 1: can mean the difference between thirty million and zero. And 1109 00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,919 Speaker 1: that's who it was. And I once I got down 1110 00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,520 Speaker 1: to that, because that can be Lebron. You know, we 1111 00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,560 Speaker 1: can increase, We can get him fourteen more points per year, 1112 00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,680 Speaker 1: and he could get an extra thirty million dollars a year, 1113 00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,120 Speaker 1: or it is the hedge fund portfolio manager. So it 1114 00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,520 Speaker 1: really is getting down to that and honing in on 1115 00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,760 Speaker 1: that instead of thinking so big, so wide. It is 1116 00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,200 Speaker 1: really going down to being able to put that one 1117 00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:29,360 Speaker 1: person on the head of a pin. 1118 00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:34,480 Speaker 2: When you have an opportunity to offer the listener one 1119 00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,240 Speaker 2: piece of advice. They've heard all of your best practice 1120 00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:41,120 Speaker 2: tips for lever leveling up their personal performance, also staying 1121 00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:44,080 Speaker 2: calm under pressure, getting better sleep. So much goodness in 1122 00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:47,360 Speaker 2: this episode, but you can tell them just like one 1123 00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:51,880 Speaker 2: snippet to get just that one percent better themselves. What 1124 00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:52,720 Speaker 2: do you lean into? 1125 00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:58,440 Speaker 1: I always lean into you? Are you? What is happening now? 1126 00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:04,880 Speaker 1: Probably won't in five years. We're all going to die, Okay, 1127 00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:08,080 Speaker 1: So none of this really matters, only the legacy that 1128 00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:11,640 Speaker 1: you leave. So if you have any chance and any 1129 00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:16,400 Speaker 1: opportunity to work further towards your goals or success or 1130 00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:19,640 Speaker 1: accelerate them, you have to start from the ground up, 1131 00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:21,760 Speaker 1: and that is starting with what Mother Nature has given you. 1132 00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,600 Speaker 1: She's giving you the ability to sleep, she's given the 1133 00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:29,080 Speaker 1: ability to drink water, hydrate, and the ability to exercise. 1134 00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:31,720 Speaker 1: You do these are all free. They are free, They're 1135 00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:33,840 Speaker 1: just given to you. You have to learn how to 1136 00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,680 Speaker 1: manipulate those and start from the ground up, and then 1137 00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:38,320 Speaker 1: you can move on to the next thing. 1138 00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:42,480 Speaker 2: Right now, my friend, you have the opportunity to offer 1139 00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:48,000 Speaker 2: yourself one piece of advice looking back on the hurdle moment, 1140 00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:51,760 Speaker 2: which was moving to the United States. You know, you 1141 00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,880 Speaker 2: did speak about the difficulties that went hand in hand 1142 00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,640 Speaker 2: with having to pivot away from being in triathlon. But 1143 00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:01,160 Speaker 2: I do feel, as it pretends to our conversation today, 1144 00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:05,120 Speaker 2: that that big change, that big step, laid the foundation 1145 00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:08,240 Speaker 2: for all that is what you have going on at 1146 00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:10,800 Speaker 2: this time. So you have an opportunity right now, Louisa, 1147 00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:13,600 Speaker 2: to offer yourself a piece of advice back when you 1148 00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:17,720 Speaker 2: move to the US, living on couches, learning the subways. 1149 00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:20,800 Speaker 2: Looking back on it, now, what do you tell yourself? 1150 00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:27,920 Speaker 1: Calm down and remember who you are. I think it 1151 00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:31,600 Speaker 1: was very easy for me back then to get caught 1152 00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:35,880 Speaker 1: up in craziness that wasn't who I was. So if 1153 00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:40,800 Speaker 1: I looked back, it is just calm down, center, focus 1154 00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:42,640 Speaker 1: and move on and move on. 1155 00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:46,160 Speaker 2: I'm so grateful for you in your time. I feel 1156 00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:47,520 Speaker 2: like I need to go back and listen to this 1157 00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:51,240 Speaker 2: episode and take notes. How do the hurdlers keep up 1158 00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:53,160 Speaker 2: with you? How do they follow along with you? Give 1159 00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:54,600 Speaker 2: me all of your details. 1160 00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:59,000 Speaker 1: Yes, I'm excited, so go. We have an amazing free 1161 00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:01,560 Speaker 1: newsletter that goes out each week, so you can go 1162 01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:04,800 Speaker 1: and subscribe to that, the New Athletics Newsletter. You can 1163 01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:07,920 Speaker 1: find that in the bio of my Instagram feed. You 1164 01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:11,000 Speaker 1: can also find the neuro Experience, which is a weekly newsletter, 1165 01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:13,560 Speaker 1: so you can go and find everything about me really 1166 01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:17,080 Speaker 1: on Instagram. And on the twenty eighth of July, our 1167 01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:19,680 Speaker 1: brain new website gets built so you'll be able to 1168 01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:21,840 Speaker 1: find our services, which is actually going to be fit 1169 01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:25,640 Speaker 1: for all. It's not going to just be for the crazy, 1170 01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:27,320 Speaker 1: high up people. 1171 01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:28,880 Speaker 2: We love it. We love it well. I'll make sure 1172 01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:30,360 Speaker 2: I'll link to all of that in the show notes 1173 01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:34,560 Speaker 2: as well. I'm over at Emily Body and at Hurdle Podcast. 1174 01:00:34,640 --> 01:01:48,600 Speaker 2: Another Hurdle Conquered. Catch you guys next time. Attatatatatatatatatatatatas