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Speaker 1: From the East Side with love. What's up y'all? Propaganda here?

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Speaker 1: As you know, I mean, you didn't started to bode,

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Speaker 1: so you should know already. Today I got one of

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Speaker 1: the uh, a longtime friend, a very talented brother. Um,

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be a good time. Like I said in

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Speaker 1: season two, what I'm trying to do in this season is,

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Speaker 1: you know, the first season was really more about like

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Speaker 1: proof of concept. What I mean when I say her

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Speaker 1: politics would propably, like if you understand city living, you

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Speaker 1: understand politics. And I was trying to give you all

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Speaker 1: examples of that and bring people in that. We're proof

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Speaker 1: of that now, as in the DJ Head episode, I

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Speaker 1: am showing you living examples of people who are actually

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Speaker 1: doing what I was trying to get everybody else to do.

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Speaker 1: This is what I want to grow. I'll be honest

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Speaker 1: with y'all, like pretense, this is what I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: grow out the hood. I like to call his brother here,

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna let him introduce himself in a second.

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Speaker 1: But like, and I know how strong this statement is,

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Speaker 1: and you may have heard me say this before, but

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Speaker 1: I believe this is okay Sea's Nipsey, and I know

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Speaker 1: I know how I know how big of a statement

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Speaker 1: this is, but I honestly, once we start talking about

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Speaker 1: what this brother is doing, you will understand, you know.

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Speaker 1: I remember. Actually it's funny like somebody actually tweeted out

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Speaker 1: right when Nipsey passed out here, some somebody from out

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Speaker 1: here was like, yo, like there's gotta be other brothers

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Speaker 1: I thought of you and thisle um, you know, but

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Speaker 1: specifically you and you why you here? Okay? See's on

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Speaker 1: my boy j B. It's good as good as good

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Speaker 1: in the Doom T shirt, yeah man, and my my

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Speaker 1: propaganda coffee mug though, yeah that I got coffee crack

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Speaker 1: it already, yeah yeah yeah yeah. So um, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: have a little conversation here. Man, I'm just gonna really

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Speaker 1: I want you to tell the narrative of like I know,

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Speaker 1: from how I was introduced to you and who you were,

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Speaker 1: there was already a history you know that I obviously

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Speaker 1: chance over the years, like we were together, you know,

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Speaker 1: each other's towns. We always find each other. But uh,

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Speaker 1: I really want to talk about the trajectory how you

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Speaker 1: got to where you were, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: From caripping to city councilman, Like, that's quite a that's

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Speaker 1: quite a trajectory, you feel me so so yeah, so

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Speaker 1: let's start from the beginning. Yeah, okay, see, I gotta

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Speaker 1: I gotta definitely make it clear, like I definitely never

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Speaker 1: been banged out, never was, never was cripping, but all

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Speaker 1: my family is from from crip some my all my family,

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Speaker 1: most most family from hood, you know, my brothers, my cousins,

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Speaker 1: everybody gang bang him saying, so you was down there, Yes,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm just you know, living amongst the life,

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Speaker 1: I guess you could say, and affiliated, you know, you

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Speaker 1: like the differences. I think is that just being from

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Speaker 1: clarity because you know it's different, you know what I mean. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: want to actually go back to something you just said

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Speaker 1: right now, where you just get tested from other persons,

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Speaker 1: Like there's I said this multiple times, whether it's in

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Speaker 1: you just live over here, part of this is inevitable,

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Speaker 1: and then it's you're eventually connected. So if it's like

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Speaker 1: So here's a perfect example. I'm walking home from the park, me,

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Speaker 1: Well he by itself today or you know what I'm saying, like, no,

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, you've been jumped on, quote it on

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Speaker 1: and you have a spot in the game, you know

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Speaker 1: And the good thing about me was people that my

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Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean that that that honor system,

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Speaker 1: I just don't you know, just don't fly with me,

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Speaker 1: It's just like it's it's still difficult for me to

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Speaker 1: But it really wasn't. I realized that that story are

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Speaker 1: show me, like, man, like there's some value and where

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Speaker 1: It's wild. I think about my best friend that you

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Speaker 1: this is freestyle fellowships. Yeah, yeah, same, Like so I

424
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 1: felt like for me, I felt level graffiti, you know

425
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 1: what I mean. So like that's that was my entrance

426
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 1: into like backpack stuff with graffiti, and I wanted to

427
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,439
Speaker 1: do that, but like you kind of had to. You

428
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 1: had to have squabbles if you do a graffiti to

429
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So like, yeah, so there

430
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 1: was this real hybrid situation. But I want to fast

431
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:45,159
Speaker 1: forward you through. You've had a rather successful career, you know,

432
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,919
Speaker 1: on the independent of a couple like what I like

433
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 1: to call for myself to like some really good at bats.

434
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, was some moments where it

435
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,879
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, this was a shot, you know what

436
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 1: I mean? And you know it worked too, to the

437
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,400
Speaker 1: extent that you've been able to be a full time

438
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,439
Speaker 1: artists for a while, you know what I'm saying. You know,

439
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: so We're super thankful that you've had some great like collapse.

440
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 1: You know, there's nobody I don't know, I don't know

441
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,640
Speaker 1: what city. You're not good, and everybody knows you wherever

442
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,120
Speaker 1: I go, you know what I'm saying, Like, and we've

443
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 1: actually we've marveled as homies to be like da this

444
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 1: JP just get around like everybody know him, Like you know,

445
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying, he's got collapsed with everybody. You know, he's

446
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:25,239
Speaker 1: just good everywhere, you know. But uh so, so for

447
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 1: the sake of the time, I'm gonna squash like fifteen

448
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 1: years into Julius, right, and to me, that marked a

449
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 1: pretty significant change, right, So so justice for Julius. Tell

450
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 1: me about that, Okay, I gotta it's important that we

451
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:48,119
Speaker 1: say that. You know, often times whenever we get to

452
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:53,479
Speaker 1: where we are with Julius, and usually you know, the

453
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:57,159
Speaker 1: persons already dead, like you know what I'm saying, and

454
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 1: then there's just a big, huge yeah, yeah, uh this

455
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 1: was important because this person is still living and breathing.

456
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 1: So um, Julius got arrested in ninety nine. He's a

457
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 1: little bit older than me, but he was he was good.

458
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 1: He went to John Marshall and he played basketball, and

459
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 1: so there's a few things. For one, everybody knew about

460
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,439
Speaker 1: John Marshall's basketball and football team back then, so we

461
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 1: knew who he was, uh to his sister and my

462
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,719
Speaker 1: sister is really cool. So I already knew his family.

463
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 1: And then his his mom and my aunt were really

464
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 1: tight best friends, uh and from the same sorority and

465
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,959
Speaker 1: all that. So I already knew his family. But the

466
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: thing that happened with him is what you happened to

467
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 1: a lot of brothers, is they get arrested for something

468
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 1: and we see it, we're told by the news and

469
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: all that this is what happened. You're like, damn, home,

470
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: you got caught up. You know what I'm saying. You

471
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 1: keep you going back your life, you know what I'm saying.

472
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 1: But you know, years later we find out all these

473
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 1: things that happened during his trial, during his arrest, you know,

474
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 1: umpletely from completely bogus, you know what I'm saying. Uh,

475
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 1: And so there's like, damn, you know, and we didn't

476
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 1: nobody did nothing. We didn't see what I'm saying. So

477
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 1: there was a documentary that Viola Davis did called The

478
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: Last Defense Actually got to be in that and she

479
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,719
Speaker 1: kind of excuse me, she kind of told the story,

480
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 1: and um, let us see, you know what really happened.

481
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: And so from there it was on. So um that

482
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 1: was like seventeen and we just we've just been busy

483
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 1: ever since. And one, you know, trying to prove his

484
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 1: innocence and then uh, the second well the first thing

485
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 1: was getting get get saving his life, you know what

486
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying, the improving his innocence and getting them getting

487
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 1: them free. So I mean it. And it went down

488
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 1: to the wire. So I remember, uh, myself, Francy equal

489
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: equ rolling, Jef Sdi and Cody Bass. We walked from

490
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: Oklahoma City to McCalister to the State Initentiary, which was

491
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: a hundred and thirty one miles. Took us four days.

492
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 1: Whenever we initially said it, you know, I'm thinking it

493
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 1: will take us a day and a half, I think,

494
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: you know, And so I realized it was for once.

495
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 1: Once you said that, you can't take it back, and like,

496
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 1: I didn't realize it's gonna be four days. So we

497
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: end up we did that. And the reason why we

498
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: did that because we wanted to like we want people

499
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 1: to see and and see like that these people were

500
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: willing to risk their health, their life. I'm saying that well,

501
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: being the New Year's Eve, all these things for this

502
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: person's life, and so you know, that was one of

503
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: the things we did to jump it off. You know,

504
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 1: it just spread like a wildfire. You know what I'm saying.

505
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: You was, you was talking about it, Mers was uh,

506
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: you know, Kim Kardashian, Westbrook, everybody, it was. I think, yeah,

507
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,439
Speaker 1: I think what even here in the backstory of how

508
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: your families were connected. I think that this is something

509
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 1: that's like really important to home in on about our

510
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: experience to where as big as these cities are, they're

511
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: not that big, you know what I mean, And that

512
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: and that these news items and hashtags are people you know,

513
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 1: and like you said, like your first story is like,

514
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 1: oh damn, you got caught up thing, man, it could

515
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 1: have been me, you know what I'm saying. And then

516
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: and then you start thinking about how many other stories

517
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 1: are exactly like that. But the fact that it's like

518
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: what would you what person wouldn't walk a hundred miles

519
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: for their family, you know what I'm saying. That's like

520
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: you are in that and that's that's what I hope

521
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: people understand. It's like, that's my family. And so even

522
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: after that, whenever, we whenever, we really started pushing and

523
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: pushing for his uh, his commutation. So we did this

524
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: whole thing for commutation, he got. The Partnering Parole Board

525
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: granted him clemency two times, amazing two times, and both

526
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: times the governor said, no, I'm saying, that's never happened

527
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: in the history. Oh, the Pardnering Parole Board granted him

528
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: commutation two times, which if has never happened, clemency never

529
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: happened in history. Of two times he was he was

530
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: giving clemency two times, they voted for life with the

531
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: possibility of parole, know what I'm saying. And even after

532
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: those two times, the governor still proceeded to push for

533
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: his death. And so then we realized they're really trying

534
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 1: to kill this man. And so we started to kind

535
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: of mobilize in different different ways, different areas to figure

536
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: out what are what are what are things that everybody

537
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: can do to try and save his life. One of

538
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: the things we started to do us the Governor's mansion

539
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: is right on on Northeast Street on the east side,

540
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: and so, uh, we just said we're gonna sleep in

541
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: front of his house every single night. He don't see us.

542
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 1: When he really take his kids to school, they're gonna

543
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 1: see us. So we had people camping out in front

544
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: of the governor's mansion the whole because he was scheduled

545
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: in November. So the whole month, the end of October

546
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: to November, we were camping out in front of his

547
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: house and um, just protesting. We're doing uh, you know,

548
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 1: all kind of things, rallies, marches, um. And so we

549
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: got we get down to the week of it, and

550
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 1: we're at the state capitol every single day at his office.

551
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: This was on This was on the news out here too,

552
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 1: was it? Well, okay, we had the capitol every single day,

553
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, every single day. And so, um,

554
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: I think his when his mom is there too, and

555
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: so the the let's say he was scheduled for a

556
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: Thursday execution, I think so mother, it was probably Monday

557
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: or Tuesday. His mom's gets there Tuesday, and so we're

558
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,959
Speaker 1: trying to like, you know, can we write her name

559
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: on the list to meet with the governor. So we

560
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: did all the things. This is after after he met

561
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 1: with the victims. Fan saying the victim of the victim

562
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: being Paul Howe, which I hadn't even talked about what

563
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: happened in the case, but met with his family and

564
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: it's penning to kill this other men, but won't speak

565
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,479
Speaker 1: to his mama. You know what I'm saying, Like, how

566
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: are you gonna kill somebody? Child? And not even you

567
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, speak to your mom. So yeah,

568
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: when you're convinced that this person is guilty, Yeah, what

569
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: you tell you? It's like it was nothing. I don't

570
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: need to talk to his mama. Yeah, and you know

571
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: and and what and what was so unique about the

572
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: Julius that's just for Julius campaign is that it brought

573
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: so many people together. It brought Christians, non Christians, the

574
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: LGBTQ community, Republicans, Democrats, everybody from all walks of life

575
00:31:43,480 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: were working together as safe his life. It was a

576
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: clear and obvious like injustice and like the man is

577
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: not guilty exactly what and like and I don't know

578
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: what else we need to tell y'all. So uh for

579
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: the second time, and we cut through this, y'all, y'all

580
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 1: did it? Yeah? It worked? Yeah, So I do want

581
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: to say it got down to the last right stuff.

582
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: The day before, there's there's two things that happened. Um,

583
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: the day before, which was Wednesday, every single high school

584
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: student of Klama City walked out wow of school, a

585
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: bunch of medals at the capitol. Uh. And so that happened.

586
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: Then the kids walking out that night, we had probably

587
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: thousands of people in front the Governor's mansion. One of

588
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: our pastors got arrested that night. And so the next

589
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: day is Thursday, where and we a bunch of was

590
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: went to McAlister. I'm thinking, I'm prepared. I got I got,

591
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: you know, my people's name number just in case, because

592
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: I'm thinking I think it was scheduled for four. And

593
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: so we decided, like at three o'clock, if this don't happen,

594
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: it has to, IM saying it has to. So so

595
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: then that day more kids walked out again. You know

596
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, not just okay, see, but like all

597
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: the schools surrounding and the suburbs, all those schools walked out.

598
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: And um, and so we got the call like around

599
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: twelve or one and that the governor had community sentence

600
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: to life with life without parole, which which is what

601
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: we were wanting was life with the possibility of parole.

602
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: So and but he what he did was he said that, um,

603
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: he can't apply for uh cut parole, a commutation or

604
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: cann't see anything ever again. So like now that's the

605
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: fight we're fighting. But yeah, but we I started to say,

606
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 1: we saved his life. He's still alive, still still breathing.

607
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: I got to see him. I go see him all

608
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: the time. He's excited to see and meet you. You

609
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So um yeah. So actually whenever

610
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 1: whenever he got moved to the other prison, I got

611
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 1: to go to that to the spoties at down performed

612
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: and I performed, and I did the show and I'm

613
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: just talking and I didn't get to see him then

614
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: because they had him secluded. But all the homies just

615
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:38,879
Speaker 1: coming up, like yo, JB. I heard you know propaganda yea, yeah,

616
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 1: it's like, can you bring him when you come next time?

617
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, bro, I said, proper, come yo.

618
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:47,879
Speaker 1: And so I still got that those forms in my yeah, yeah,

619
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: get those forms filled out, man, because you know, he

620
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: was a matter of fact, he was talking to other

621
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: day about you know, if I get them informs, the

622
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: problem I was like I sent him, he got him. Yeah,

623
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: I just try to remember the dates. But down so

624
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: even if you can't come for that, we can figure

625
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: out something else I'm saying, and make it work. But

626
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: because my other homie, who's who from the East, he's

627
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 1: in there too, and uh, he's like he he was

628
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: like the the biggest producer on in Okoma City at

629
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: the time, you know what I'm saying. He produced music,

630
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: He did stuff with Spice one everybody just being out

631
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: here too. But he's in there with what you call

632
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: is so his name is Key Tech and he's he

633
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: like he's trying to work on other things. They got

634
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: a music program working on. So it's a lot we

635
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: can do, bro. But yeah, and I really what I

636
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: love about this is like you and I hope the

637
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: listeners cast this like you are regular as naked ye

638
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: like that just and somehow, you know what I'm saying.

639
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: It was just like, hey, I guess I'll just I'll

640
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: just do it. You know. We talked about real actual power,

641
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: like political power, and obviously like politicians pay for that

642
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 1: you know you you you you you know, hustle and

643
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 1: make you know. We watched Kevin McCarthy you know what

644
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 1: I'm saying, takeift different, you know, different votes for him

645
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: to try to negotiate power. And what I'm saying is

646
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 1: like when you when you have something that matters, when

647
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 1: you actually represent the people you're supposed to represent and

648
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: they trust you over years of investment and you just

649
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: being here and I'm like, I'm no different, Like I'm

650
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: not I'm not buying y'all's loyalty. I'm saying I'm from

651
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 1: the same street you are. That's the homie. Let's make

652
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 1: this happen. And you did. You know what I'm saying

653
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: is real power and and like again, this is why

654
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: you on this show because like that's what I'm trying

655
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 1: to show, like Young Homies is like you actually you

656
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 1: have more power than you think. You know what I'm saying,

657
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: And you did it, so so let me move you further.

658
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 1: So there's, um, there's two other things that are going

659
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: on right now, Like Dotson is on the way. Uh

660
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: So then there's like this East Side project, which I like,

661
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: as you was explaining it, like I was when I

662
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 1: first heard about like crying because going back to like

663
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: you said, like on the Street ship where it's like

664
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: like we like people who live and die by these flags,

665
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: in these neighborhoods filled with buildings they don't own, you

666
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying on streets they have no equity

667
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 1: in we deing over rented apartments like this ain't even

668
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: my you draw lines on the borders. You know what

669
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's like I don't own none of this.

670
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: Like niggas got a got gainst and built off the

671
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: names of apartments. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, it's

672
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: like you don't even own it, you know what I'm saying.

673
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 1: Like you know, so when you think about that, like

674
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: the hell are we doing? You know what I'm saying? Right, So,

675
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 1: then so there's the East Side Project and then there's

676
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: you know, the its City Council, commissions, Arts Commission, the

677
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: Arts Commission. So y'all heard you hearing this? You're hearing

678
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: this boy talk like you know, like you hear how

679
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: you talk. There's gonna be pictures online like your regular

680
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: regular tatted dreadlock and shirt. And I talked the same

681
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: way at the arts community with the City Council to

682
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: say with at the Thanksgiving table, you know, you know

683
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like I don't put this real to

684
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: take it off. It's really so the East Side Project,

685
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell tell me if I got this wrong.

686
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 1: So that y'allhood right. And there's a series of like

687
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: sort of like strip mall buildings. We wouldn't call that

688
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: strip mall, what we call it cer Okay, So it's

689
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: a bunch of buildings and and um so I know

690
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: about the tower. I've seen it before. Yeah, I've seen

691
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: the tower theater which I performed at which used to

692
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: be like a porn spot. Right, so they got the

693
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: building and the homie, the Homie Dotson who's coming in

694
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: a little later like was part of the mastermind with this,

695
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: which is like anyway, so you so if you so,

696
00:38:55,880 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: if you're you're local owned business, right, you have the

697
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: access or the ability to place your business there. Right,

698
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: But then there's another step to where there's equity in

699
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: the building. So uh, San Dino can probably said better

700
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 1: than I can. But for instance, if you signed as

701
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: a ten years long if you if you sign signed

702
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: long term lease, then you get equity. Is that right? Yeah?

703
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 1: Did you hear that song? So you so you you're

704
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,479
Speaker 1: not just written you own it? Yeah, you're owning the block,

705
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: but h and that, you know, and so I think

706
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: part of it, part part of the reason that was

707
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 1: done is because like there's no secret that all over

708
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: the country somebody pushed the button and gentrification is happening,

709
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: to see what I'm saying. But what what's important is

710
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: is that is that a lot of these places that

711
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: make these spots cool, once it becomes cool, they can't

712
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: afford to be there no more, you know what I'm saying.

713
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: And so what what uh San Dino and Dots and

714
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,479
Speaker 1: all these people who are kind of mad to mind

715
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: this project. I just want to make sure that the

716
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: community and the people who started are taking care of

717
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, whenever the spot, whenever it

718
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: does blow up. Yeah, why everybody, like I always say this,

719
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: like why everybody loves Long Beach, why everybody want to

720
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: be in Brooklyn and why everybody is is because we

721
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 1: died there. We made it cool. So why do you

722
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: get to you know what I'm saying, Yeah, get the

723
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: spoils of that. And there's a term in in in

724
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: education in in Latin like Chicano studies called hint the

725
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,760
Speaker 1: vacation and hint they just means is like my people

726
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: so it's like dot com dot com. There isn't hint

727
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: dot com. I remember it was kind of like the

728
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: Black Planet. It was there. Yeah, an of course us

729
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 1: in our latinas. But but yeah, that term is the

730
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: idea of like rather than being gentrified, we're doing it,

731
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: no doubt. So it's hintification, you know what I'm saying.

732
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 1: So like so, and it was weird over here, like

733
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: you know part of town we had East Low Spoil Heights,

734
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: Like Boil Heights is such a historical you know, Kano movement,

735
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: low rider total like it's from here, you know what

736
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:12,959
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But because of that, whenever anything new come around,

737
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 1: some of the ogs is like what y'are doing here?

738
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: It's like it's almost like it's like Oakland, like you're her.

739
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: It's like, no, homie, you can't have this, Like we

740
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 1: we fight back, right, But but some of the spots,

741
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: like this little like you know, Miss scal kind of

742
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,240
Speaker 1: like you know, hipster kind of bar kind of opened

743
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: up and all the drinks are like cor chap like Mescal's,

744
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: like it's all like Mexican like Chicano influence. And some

745
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: of the organizers who are really just Cholos, like they

746
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 1: just kind of rolled up, like nigger, what you're doing here?

747
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: He was like family went to Roosevelt. Like He's like,

748
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 1: I'm born and raised here. You see this bullet wound full,

749
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: like I'm from these streets, you know what I'm saying. So,

750
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: so it's like, Dann, we can't we can't have craft beer.

751
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: We can't have good mirror either, you know what I'm saying.

752
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: So like so, but but I love what y'all did. That.

753
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: Y'all took it a step further in the sense that

754
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: it's like it's not just the business, it's the equity,

755
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, It's the ground that we're on.

756
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: And that's because, like I said, it's our blood that

757
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: made this area cool. Yeah, because if you think about

758
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 1: like an Oklahoma City on the east side, we have

759
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: an air town called Deep Deep Duce and Deep Dudes

760
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,919
Speaker 1: was really like for Oklahoma City. It's like what Black

761
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: Wall Street of Greenwood was to Tulsa, and um, you

762
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 1: know that's what Ralph Ellison was, you know, Uh, Charlie Christian, Um,

763
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 1: Jimmy Rushing, like all these people like Duke Ellington would

764
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: come and play there like you know, what I'm saying,

765
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: Like the Gregs, it was jazz, it was blues, it

766
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 1: was chilling circuit, it was you know, black doctors, all

767
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: these things, you know what I'm saying. But now there's

768
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: there's not a you know what i mean, Like you

769
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: might have a you know, a name on the on

770
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: the ground, a plaque or something like that, but none

771
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: of the distances are black. None of the people live

772
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: in the in the buildings are black, you know what

773
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 1: I mean. And so there's really no trace of us

774
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 1: even being there. And so I think about two things.

775
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: I think about a like, what we're doing, we're trying

776
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: to make it to where ten years from now because

777
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: Santino's family, my family, all I'm saying, we all came

778
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:16,919
Speaker 1: from the East. So ten years from now, twenty years

779
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 1: from now, no matter what it looks like or where

780
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 1: what I'm saying what it is, you will know that

781
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 1: we were there, you know what I'm saying. And then

782
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 1: the second thing is is that we talked, like you said,

783
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: we talked about gentrification. But what was that word you saying? Dentification?

784
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: So blackification. Yeah, So like the idea is it's like

785
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 1: before Deep Duce was deep Dudes, I'm sure it was

786
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: something else until the blacks came and made it what

787
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: it was. You know what I'm saying, And that's a

788
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: good thing. Somebody asked me, like, well, what if you know,

789
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 1: so you cool with all these rich black people come

790
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 1: to the East Side and moving back. I said, yeah,

791
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: if they're black, that's what we're trying to do. It's

792
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: that's different if if there's all And it's important to

793
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: understand the difference, right, and and what that does. What

794
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: that does for a little black kid to come inside

795
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 1: of business and see a black owner, see somebody black

796
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: running it, it's totally different then what it does to

797
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 1: a little black kid just be coming into a business

798
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: that in the neighborhood where he grew up in. He

799
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: feels uncomfortable now because you know, you know what I mean.

800
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 1: And it's like it's like I'll talk about this too.

801
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 1: It's like you're you're you're painting a full picture because

802
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: we have South Central and Baldwin Hills. The last night

803
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 1: at South Central now it's Central, so it's just they

804
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: called South l A. But none of us, yeah, none

805
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 1: of us, Yeah, none of us, none of us recognize that.

806
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, but like, but but the

807
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: thing is, it's like your your cousin might bang and

808
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 1: he black, but maybe your but your school principle is

809
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: also black, you know what I'm saying. So you're seeing

810
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: a full gambit that it's we're not just this, we're

811
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 1: also that, you know what I mean, And and you

812
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 1: can find yourself in that spectrum, which I think is

813
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: a beautiful thing man, And and and that's like, that's

814
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 1: so that's the important thing because for black people, especially

815
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: in Oklahoma City, like there's always somebody white you have

816
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 1: to go through to get anything done, you know what

817
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like I'm sure everything that he does, everything

818
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 1: I've done, we in order to like to get it signed,

819
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 1: to get it, you know, anything, you always have to

820
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 1: go through a layer of white people, you know what

821
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And so we're trying. So it's so it's

822
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,760
Speaker 1: important for us to build that power, that community power

823
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: of people that look like us, and so that we

824
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 1: can take care of ourselves and then the people who

825
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 1: come who have come behind us, you know what I mean.

826
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: The street music, economics, and now political power all sort

827
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: of grew out of the same j B experience and

828
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: then so what you said before of like I am

829
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: not going to squander what I went through. Now you

830
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: can use it. Yeah, you reminding me, Um, just like

831
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 1: the political power right. You know, we had a bunch

832
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 1: of racists that just happened in Oakleman City. Oh yeah,

833
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 1: we ah boy, you've been trolling. Oh yeah him he

834
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: uh what's his name? I'm like Ryan Walters, but but

835
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: he's a he's a Yeah, he's definitely trolling and he's

836
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 1: really trying to appeal to that base of like just

837
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: racist and don't make sense. I'm like, I like like,

838
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,800
Speaker 1: I like, I don't even make sense, like no no

839
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: sense at all. But I knew we had that we

840
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: had the governor's race. Um, but for us, and I

841
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: felt like my community, the most important race was the

842
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Speaker 1: District attorney race, the d A race that and so

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Speaker 1: um you know when and I always said, man, I

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00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: don't want to sign my name to no politician because

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00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: you never know like when they get in, like how

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00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 1: they're gonna switch with the and then and so I

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00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: look like I'm wild because I don't brought all these

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Speaker 1: niggas into like this person and they you know what

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00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, So Um, but this, I knew that

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Speaker 1: the d A race was important for Julius Jones, and

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00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: it's important for every homie who I know who got

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Speaker 1: a case coming up, or who might get caught up

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00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: in the case eventually. And um. And so what I

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00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 1: did was we had a candidate. Her name is Vicki Bahenna.

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Speaker 1: She was over the Innocence Project. I went and met

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Speaker 1: with her. I told her, you know, I said, man,

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Speaker 1: we want Julius Jones out. I said, we don't want people.

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00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 1: We don't want people to be going to prison. You

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00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. We were trying to change the

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Speaker 1: way the criminal justice system looks. Yeah, you know what

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00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, you know, and she wants the same

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00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: things we wanted. Now she did say, listen, you know,

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Speaker 1: you know I don't want to se people to prison either,

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Speaker 1: but some people are gonna end up going to prison.

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Speaker 1: And I said, I said, okay, as long as we

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Speaker 1: say that to the people though, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: and we say we don't want nobody to go to prison.

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00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: We say this person is not gonna not gonna be

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00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 1: whenever they see you come to court, and it ain't

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Speaker 1: gonna be like, oh, I didn't seen this person before.

871
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: It's just the drug deal, the just the game member,

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00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I got homies who got cases,

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00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,879
Speaker 1: who never been in choke before the d A walk

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00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: in and be like, oh, yeah, I've seen this case before,

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00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: drug deal going back, you know what I'm saying. Like, so, like,

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Speaker 1: we don't don't we want to we want to change that.

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Speaker 1: And so what idea was as I got her in

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00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: the ruins with the homies, got in the ruins with cribs,

879
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,439
Speaker 1: got in the rooms of blood, got in the rooms

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00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,399
Speaker 1: on the east Side last week to the people for real,

881
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,399
Speaker 1: for real, and said, listen, if we don't win nothing else,

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00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 1: if you don't do nothing else, we gotta get this

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Speaker 1: person in so that we changed the way the criminal

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Speaker 1: justice system is done in Oklahoma. And she won, what

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00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:16,919
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and so like yeah, something like that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And the effects of something like that a It shows

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00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: people that they actually have power, you know what I'm saying.

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00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: Their vote actually counts and it matters. And then it

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00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:31,919
Speaker 1: also shows her like listen, we're not just numbers. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this community matters, see what I'm saying, and we will

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00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: pull up Yeah, and we will pull up, you know,

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00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: and so um. But yeah, you know she just got

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Speaker 1: sworn in in January, so you know she she is

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00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 1: doing all the things already. So I'm excited, man. But

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Speaker 1: I just want to say, like just for the political

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Speaker 1: part that you know, it's important that you know, we

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00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 1: we really try to get behind and work with people

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Speaker 1: who affect us the most and directly now now the

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Speaker 1: governor and all those other things. Yes, those are that's

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00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 1: that's still local, local politics. But I understood. I'm in

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma County, and Oklahoma County is different than all these

902
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: these weird, weird real counties that we got. Yeah, well

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Speaker 1: you just gave us the wrap up I needed. It's

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Speaker 1: such a perfect Jim j V. Thank you so much, man, Man,

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Speaker 1: thank you man. I appreciate you. Man. Drop your socials

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Speaker 1: and websites. Okay, before I do, I got I just

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Speaker 1: got saved. Man. You know, I don't do all stuff

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Speaker 1: by myself. Also, I got my bro Sat Dino Thompson,

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Speaker 1: uh Jonathan Dawson, UH C. C. Jones, Davis Antoninette Jones.

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Speaker 1: That's Julius's sister, Roland H. Jess Eddie Free Julius Jones

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Speaker 1: LaRue Bratcher, my cousin Marquis Badass, my brother promised, these

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Speaker 1: my sister lives. These are all people that I work

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Speaker 1: with and helped me do what I do whole time.

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Speaker 1: To Michael McBride, old team. That's beautiful, man. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: tell me the websites. Uh, my name is JB dot

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Speaker 1: com or at my name is JB on all the

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Speaker 1: social media things. I'm mostly active on face for me

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Speaker 1: on Instagram and Twitter, and I'm just now learning TikTok.

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Speaker 1: But but my name is j B and j B

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Speaker 1: spelled j A B. Thank you, my brother, Thank you man. Amazing.

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Speaker 1: All right, y'all follow this nack yo yo. This thing

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Speaker 1: right here was recorded by Me Propaganda and East Low

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Speaker 1: Spoil Heights, Los Angeles, California. This thing was mixed, edited, mastered,

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Speaker 1: and scored by the one and the only Matt Olsowski.

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Speaker 1: Y'all check out this fool's music. I mean it's incredible.

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Speaker 1: Executive produced by Sophie Lichterman for Cool Zone Media. Man,

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Speaker 1: and thank you for everybody who continue to tap in

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Speaker 1: with us. Make sure you leaving reviews and five star

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Speaker 1: ratings and sharing it with the homies so we could

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Speaker 1: get this thing pushed up in the algorithm and listen.

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Speaker 1: I just want to remind you these people is not

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Speaker 1: smarter than you. If you understand city living, you understand politics,

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Speaker 1: We'll see you next week.