1 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always 3 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: by my trusted colleague West Hodkowitz. We're coming to you 4 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: here from our studios at lambeau Field and welcome back, West, 5 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: and welcome back from Canton, Ohio. You were spending the 6 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: weekend on assignment, as we like to say, covering Leroy 7 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: Butler's Hall of Fame induction in that wonderful town of Canton. 8 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 1: Give us your thoughts, your impressions. How did how did 9 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: the weekend go? What did you think? Well, the weekend 10 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: was great, But I just have to mention before we 11 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:41,639 Speaker 1: get started here. It's amazing to me. This is why 12 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: I love about the human condition. Right, we sat here 13 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: a week ago, we did Unscripted. Then you and I 14 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: like to ping pongs in the universe, go off and 15 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: just sort of bounce and do our own thing. I'm 16 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: covering the Hall of Fame. You're doing Family Night by yourself, 17 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: and then we just kind of get this gravitational pull 18 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: back and once again it's training campaign. Here we are. Yeah. 19 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: I love how that happened, the stuff that I did, 20 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: the stuff that I wrote the stuff that you wrote, 21 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 1: um Leroy Butler's Hall of Fame celebration, it was exactly that. 22 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 1: It was a celebration, and just as I talked about 23 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: last week very fervently, just to see him get his 24 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,559 Speaker 1: moment was really special. Going to the party on Saturday. 25 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: The teammates that showed up, former head coach Mike Sherman, 26 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 1: just a nice uh homage to to everything he accomplished 27 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: throughout his career, and and Leroy actually even allowed me 28 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: to take a picture with the bus too. So it 29 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 1: was a pretty neat weekend. I don't know how many 30 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: times you're ever gonna have an opportunity to be able 31 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: to actually be positioned next to a Hall of Fame bust, 32 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: and certainly now it has taken his rightful place in Canton. Yeah, 33 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 1: I think I think an interesting aspect of this is 34 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: uh with with Gilbert Brown being one of Butler's co 35 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: presenters and everything that Leroy has said about Gilbert, and 36 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: then seeing you know, what Gilbert said in the media 37 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: about Leroy, and then the video, the part of the presentation, 38 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: everything that was that was put together. I think there 39 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: there's maybe an appreciation that that didn't exist before that 40 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: people just weren't necessarily aware of how close Leroy and 41 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: Gilbert were not only as teammates, but but as friends. 42 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: And you know, you don't think of a you know, 43 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: a big defensive lineman and a defensive back who doesn't 44 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: you know, they don't play the same position, They didn't 45 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: spend all that time in meeting rooms together, you know, 46 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 1: as players and whatnot. But these guys have gotten awfully 47 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: close and and Gilbert was truly honored to do what 48 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: he did for Leroy and Camp. Yeah, they're brothers. And 49 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: and you know, Gilbert even mentioned I thought he just 50 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: absolutely hit his presentation out of the park. I thought 51 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: so too. I thought it was fantastic energies the storytelling. 52 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: It's such a small window that they have to do 53 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: it now. But I mean, I thought he couldn't a 54 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: thousand words couldn't have summed up what he did in 55 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: those two minutes. And you know, recounting the story about 56 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 1: how he's driving and here's that GiB Roy is getting in. 57 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: He stops the car and he's shouting, you know, it's time, 58 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: It's about time. And it's true because this is a 59 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: guy that he was quieter when they first when he 60 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 1: first went to Green Bay, his blocker was positioned next 61 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: to Leroy Butler. And as he said in my feature 62 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: last week, I mean everybody and their mother wanted to 63 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: talk to Leroy Butler back then. So I mean trying 64 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: to get a three and sixty pound man into his 65 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: locker to be and you know what those old packer 66 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: locker rooms look like. It was not easy for life 67 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: being Gilbert Brown when he was younger. He mentioned to 68 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: me and that story. You know, he ran his mouth 69 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: too much. But the two became incredibly close friends to 70 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: be able to have Leroy or I should say Gilbert 71 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,239 Speaker 1: and Genesis, LeRoy's wife presenting him. His father in law 72 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: was the one that took, you know, help unveil the bust. Uh. 73 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: Just a community affair. And I gotta give a lot 74 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: of credit to Leroy too. At the party that night, 75 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: he did like a thirty minute like almost like a 76 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: stand up routine, it seemed like at times. But well, 77 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: he was the star of the show. He deserved every moment, 78 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: every moment that he got, He absolutely deserved it. Right. 79 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: He had the jacket on and he actually the thing. 80 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: I gave a lot of respect for him. He brought 81 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: up every single member of his family, from his children, 82 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: his six daughters, and and also talking about his his 83 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: you know nephews and you know uncles and aunts and 84 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: and father in law, mother in law. It was just 85 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: he wanted everybody to be a part of it. And 86 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: he closed by bringing up all the teammates that he 87 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: had that came to the party, thanking each and one 88 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: of them and reminding everybody, like he did in his speech, 89 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: if it wasn't for these guys right here, I'm not 90 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 1: in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. They're the ones 91 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: on my days where I wasn't the top notch safety 92 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 1: I need to be. They were the ones that picked 93 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: me up. I wish Leroy would have probably been a 94 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: little bit more about himself, to be honest with you, 95 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: because I think it sometimes gets understated how good he 96 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 1: was as a player. But his big message that weekend, 97 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 1: going back to what his mother told him, is it's 98 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 1: not about you. You're not the headline. It's everybody that 99 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: helped you. And Butler certainly did that. Yeah, and you 100 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: and I were we were texting back and forth at 101 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: different times throughout the weekend when you were on the trip, 102 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: and as we talked about on last week's show, like 103 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: I was in Canton for fives in Shriman and for 104 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: Jerry Kramer's. I wish I could have gone for Charles 105 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: Woodson's last year, but the COVID restrictions and whatnot, um 106 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: eliminate to that possibility. But um, as somebody who's been 107 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: there a couple of times, and I know you were 108 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:09,239 Speaker 1: excited to go cover Leroy. If you work in this league, 109 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: you cover this league as a as a writer, as 110 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: a commentator. You have to see Hall of Fame and 111 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: Shrineman weekend at least once. You have to see what 112 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: it's all about, the gold Jacket ceremony, the the actual 113 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: Enshrineman in Tom Benson Stadium, not just watching it on TV, 114 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: but to be there for it and to feel the 115 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: energy of that crowd when the different Hall of Famers 116 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: give their speeches and you and you have the different 117 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: pockets of the crowd that that are you know, very 118 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: you know, intensely listening and yelling and screaming and celebrating 119 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: their guy, you know up there on the stage. There's 120 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: something about there's something about being there for something like 121 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: that that that that the television broadcast is great a 122 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: job as they do on ESPN and NFL network. With 123 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: that the television broadcast can't capture it. And and I'm 124 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: thankful that I've gotten to go a couple of times, 125 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: and now you've gotten to go. And we'll see. We 126 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: talked last week about maybe some other possibilities here in 127 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: the near future, maybe one of us gets to go again. 128 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 1: But it's it's quite the time, it really was, and 129 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 1: you know, just mentioning this too before we move on 130 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: to back to the current day, modern day packers. I 131 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: was chatting with Mark Murphy on our way back to 132 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: Green Bay, and one of the things I said to 133 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: him that really struck me the most was going back 134 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 1: to that gold Jacket ceremony. It's one thing to see 135 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: Kurt Warner and Steve Young and guys that you know, 136 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: Charles Woodson, guys that are very visible. It was another 137 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: thing for me seeing the truth, not that these guys aren't, 138 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: but the other legends of the game that aren't as 139 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: much in the public eye. It was really cool seeing 140 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: Kelvin Johnson again. Kelvin Johnson isn't out doing all these endorsements. 141 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: Kelvin Johnson's outliving his life. And kind of re emerges 142 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: for this. Lawrence Taylor, even Ted Hendrix, you know, the 143 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 1: former Packers linebacker spent that one season with Green Bay. 144 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: Seeing him up there, you know, Fred belichnikof I mean, 145 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,359 Speaker 1: just so many different guys that it's like, that's what 146 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 1: the sport is all about. Yeah. Absolutely, Well, while you 147 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: were in camp, and as you mentioned, I was in 148 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,239 Speaker 1: the press box at lambeau Field on Friday night covering 149 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: the annual Family Night practice. I'll just I'll share a 150 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: few observations on offense and on defense. On the offensive 151 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: side of the ball, I thought the two stars of 152 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: the night were seventh round wide receiver Samari Toura and 153 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: then also quarterback Jordan's Love. And starting with Toura, he 154 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: he just he had one of those practices that you know, 155 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: where a guy's presence is being felt in all these 156 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: different segments of practice kind of start to finish. He 157 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: had a really nice touchdown grab in the one on ones, 158 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: then he had another another nice difficult sliding catch, a 159 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: touchdown grab in the eleven on eleven when they were 160 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: you know, close to the goal line, and then he 161 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: hauled in a bomb from Jordan's Love. You know, Jordan's 162 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: love with Davante Wyatt right in his face. Love let 163 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: it Go too had gotten behind the defense. He makes 164 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: the catch and completes it for a fifty plus yard touchdown. 165 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: For all the talk, and rightfully so, about Romeo Dobbs 166 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: and what he's doing, and all the curiosity about Sammy 167 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: Watkins and and where this will go and Al Lazard 168 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: sort of getting taking hold of that number one receiver job. 169 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: Samore toure Um made a little bit of a statement 170 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: on family and to say just say, hey, don't forget 171 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: about me. I know, I'm the seventh round pick. And 172 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: and we haven't seen Christian Watson on the field yet, 173 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: the second round pick Um, but Toura showed some playmaking 174 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: ability and it's going to be interesting to see. Now. 175 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: Can he take something like that family night practice under 176 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,839 Speaker 1: the lights and carry it over into the preseason games 177 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: which start Friday night in San Francisco. Yeah, And and and 178 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: without you know, putting down any kind of you know, 179 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: guarantees or qualifiers, I have no reason to believe he can't. 180 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: This is something that to ray, since he was drafted, 181 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: he's been making these type of plays. He's been having 182 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 1: these type of practices, and that's what has impressed me 183 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: the most about him and Dobbs is the fact that 184 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: these guys just don't flash, they sustain, and Tore hasn't 185 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: been as probably as exceptional as Dobbs been. Dobbs and 186 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: made so incredible catches for fourth year or fourth round 187 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: rookie draft pick. But to that, the statement I keep 188 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: making Mike, and I don't want to just continue to 189 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: be a broken record, but it was really true, is 190 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: that every play that has been offered to him, every 191 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: opportunity that has been given, he has made the most 192 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: of that. He has capitalized on it. He's made a 193 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,199 Speaker 1: lot of those catches that you expect a guy competing 194 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: for a roster spot to make. And if you flash 195 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 1: this thing back to two thousand twelve, where everybody was 196 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: drooling over DeAndre Burrell and Tori Gurley, but you had 197 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,199 Speaker 1: a real set four or five up on top. Uh. 198 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,719 Speaker 1: I believe Samaria to Ory would be a big head er, 199 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: bigger headline that then he's been so far, just based 200 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: on the fact that there are all these other names 201 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: and all this other uncertainty at that position that people 202 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: tend to gravitate more towards that. But if this was 203 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: old school football, where you maybe have your top three 204 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: pretty much solidified and those young guys are getting more 205 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: opportunities to really you will work with the ones I 206 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: think too, Ray would be a guy that probably would 207 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: get a little bit more attention. That being said, Uh, 208 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 1: this is going to be the proving ground. Now. Jordan's Love, 209 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: we know, is going to start on Friday against the 210 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: San Francisco forty Niners. I would imagine he's going to 211 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: have a young offensive line in front of him, He's 212 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: gonna have young receivers that he's gonna be throwing too, 213 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: and probably young guys in the backfield. Uh, this is 214 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: where you want to see to Ray, and I would 215 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: assume Dobbs will be out there to really carry over 216 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: everything they've done over the last five months and put 217 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: it to an actual in game setting. Yeah. And the 218 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: same goes for Jordan's Love as he is about to 219 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: uh to start the preseason opener Friday night in San Francisco. 220 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,079 Speaker 1: I thought Love had a really really good practice um 221 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: on Family Night, just just a lot of the timing 222 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: and and uh um, just the the comfort that he 223 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: showed in the offense and all that it really seemed 224 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: to to come together on Friday night against you know, 225 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: even going against the twos, and we'll talk about what 226 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: this Packers defense has been doing in practice lately in 227 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: a minute, But even going against the twos, you know 228 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: that that's still a pretty decent defensive unit. And I 229 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: thought he was, he was, he was really performing well. 230 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: Then on Monday on the practice field, things didn't go 231 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: well for Jordan's Love. He had some more of those hiccups. 232 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: And I think I think with Love, we're just waiting 233 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: to see. Now. He got those first two preseason games 234 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: last year under his belt, he got his first regular 235 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: season start, played the second half against Detroit in that 236 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: regular season finale. Now he's back with with another off season, 237 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: another training camp of growth. What sort of what sort 238 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: of level is Jordan's Love going to establish? Right? What 239 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: is what is what sort of consistency can he established 240 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: through these preseason games. I think that's the thing to watch. Nobody, 241 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: as you said, he's going to have a young offensive line, 242 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: young playmakers around him, and all of that in these 243 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: preseason games. Nobody's expecting him to look like a Hall 244 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 1: of Famer out there in the preseason. But can he 245 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: can can he level things out a little bit instead 246 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: of going through some of the some of these ups 247 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: and downs that we continue to see in practice. What's 248 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,719 Speaker 1: going to be his level of play in the competition 249 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: in those preseason games. That's what we're waiting to see. 250 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: You're absolutely right. But I also remember going back to 251 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: two thousand and twelve when Graham Harrold probably needed to 252 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: have a really memorable performance in the finale to lock 253 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: down the number two job. The guy went and completed 254 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: like sixteen of eighteen passes for two or twenty yards 255 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: or whatever against Kansas City starting defense in the first 256 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: half with all guys that were either going to be 257 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 1: on the practice squad or barely on the roster. That's 258 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: the thing here. You're going to face good defenses. You're gonna, 259 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: at least for a couple of series, you're going to 260 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 1: see some stars out there, and you're gonna have young 261 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: guys around you. How do you rally those guys? As 262 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: you said, Mike, you did it three times and it 263 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: was right on level consistency, even Keel. That's what you're 264 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: looking from from Jordan's love, because we've seen the guy 265 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: now for two and a half years he can make 266 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: the throws, he can stand tall in the pocket. He 267 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: is fearless. I mean, this guy's not panicking back there. 268 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: He He definitely has the right temperament in that regard. 269 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: It's about making the right decisions in that blink of 270 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: an eye, that millisecond, making sure that you protect the football. 271 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: That's going to be the big key for Love and 272 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: honestly the thing I want to see more than anything 273 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: else with him, like let it go, trust yourself, way 274 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: within the system. Keep up the tempo, because when Jordan's 275 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: Love plays on tempo, he's a first round pick. You 276 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: see it every time. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, Um. I want 277 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 1: to take care of some sponsor business before we shift 278 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: gears to the defensive side. Serious x M NFL Radio 279 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: delivers hard hitting analysis and up to the minute NFL 280 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: news that true football fanatics need. Seven three and had 281 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: Cousin subs. We have something for everyone like our Wisconsin 282 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: Cheese Kurts, mac and Cheese, golden fries, and creamy shakes, 283 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: all paired with your favorite sub or Submennabowl Cousin subs. 284 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: Fifty years of better Um family night. On the defensive side, 285 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: I thought two guys that definitely caught my eye. Were 286 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: surprise surprised the two first round picks from Georgia. I 287 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: thought Quay Walker Um really showed up. Um just you 288 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: got to see a little bit of of that of 289 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: sort of that sideline to sideline range that he's got. 290 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: You see the speed that he has, and he nearly 291 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: and this is you know, the difference between Aaron Rodgers 292 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: and other quarterbacks. Walker nearly had a deflection, if not 293 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: an interception of a red zone past him Marcedes Lewis, 294 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: but Rogers was able to just zip it, you know, 295 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: right past him. And uh. And that's you know, that's 296 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: a great lesson, a great learning moment for for a 297 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: young first round pick like that. With Wyatt, I mentioned 298 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: the play where Jordan's Love hit the big bomb to 299 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: tour a Um. DeVante Wyatt put a spin move on 300 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage and then was bearing down 301 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: on Jordan's Love right and it's practice, He's not going 302 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: to be able to bury the guy. Um, but you 303 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: got a chance to see that the quickness of a 304 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: three hundred pound man. That's why Devontae Wyatt was a 305 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: first round pick. Um off a defense that had plenty 306 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: of guys to choose from right in the first round. 307 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: That kind of quickness off the line of scrimmage at 308 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: three hundred pounds, Devantae Wyatt is starting to show it 309 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: more and more on the practice field, and again that's 310 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: another thing I'm interested to see. What does he look 311 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: like now in the preseason games. Well, let's be honest 312 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: about something, Mike. The the area or why it needs 313 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: to catch up. Where he's gonna have to to grow 314 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: is the run defense aspect. But he does look like 315 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: a guy in terms of past Nickel, maybe even Dime 316 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: I think can contribute from day one in that way. 317 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: He's bigger, but he reminds me of Mike Daniels, where 318 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: for Mike that was his building block was the fact 319 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: that he could press the pocket, he could get inside pressure, 320 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: and then he rounded out the rest of his game 321 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: from there. That's what I see with why it why 322 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: it looks like he has all the traits you want 323 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: to see. It has been an absolute treat watching him 324 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: in the one on one drills because even if he 325 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: doesn't quote unquote win the rep, he's given those guards 326 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: and center headaches. He just is because he's just a 327 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: ball of energy, it's not just bullrushes, it's spin moves 328 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: from a guy his size. It's being able to you know, 329 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: you know, maybe even you know, swim pass guys. He's 330 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: had a couple of those secks too, And to do 331 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: that in short area is very difficult. Like you see 332 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: outside linebackers doing that, but when you have all that energy, 333 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: all those bodies in between, it's difficult to pull those 334 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: things off. So again that story I did right before 335 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: I left on Kenny Clark talking about, you know, these 336 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: guys are gonna make my life easier him, t J. Slaton, 337 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:22,119 Speaker 1: jarn Reid. I have to imagine now, I'm sure Brian goodcaute, 338 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: everybody's you know, praying that these guys can all stay healthy, 339 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: get the bubble wrap out. But the Joe Barry, you know, 340 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: Jerry Montgomery have to be salivating behind the scenes here 341 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: at the thought of what this whole group can do 342 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: in Unison. Because Dean Lowery has looked really good through 343 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: the first week camp, Kenny Clark is doing what Kenny 344 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: Clark always does, and t J. Slayton looks like a 345 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: ball player, so to see why it doing that great 346 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: Very quickly moving on to Quay Walker, He's been everything 347 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: I think we wanted to see from him. Practice on Monday, 348 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: we got to see Devondre Campbell batting a past two 349 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: almost a near interception came down. He's putting his hands 350 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: down two guys that's six ft four with that kind 351 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: of speed. You talk about Lowry getting the past deflections, 352 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: you talk about some of the stuff that happens to 353 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 1: the trenches. There are rows of hands that these quarterbacks 354 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: are gonna have to throw past this season. Well, this, uh, 355 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: this Packers defense in general as a whole, has particularly 356 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: in Monday's practice, which was which was a full pads, 357 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 1: lots of eleven on eleven including two minute drills and 358 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 1: the whole thing. After the players had Saturday off and 359 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: then more of a jog through type practice on Sunday, 360 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: So they really went at it on Monday, and this 361 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: Packers defense was given Aaron Rodgers and company a lot 362 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: of problems. I mean the offense. They made some plays 363 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: here and there, as they always do, but that offense 364 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers never found any kind of a rhythm 365 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 1: on the practice field like we've seen year after year 366 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 1: after year. They didn't find any kind of that rhythm 367 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: on Monday against this Packers defense, and one guy who 368 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: absolutely jumped off the chart in terms of what he 369 00:17:55,920 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: did in one practice was Jaire Alexander. Now Alexander take 370 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: he's taken some reps off here and they're resting his 371 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: body some different things, but he was full go, all 372 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: out on Monday on the practice field, and whether you're 373 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 1: talking the one on ones when he was going up 374 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: against Romeo Dobbs and Sammy Watkins in the eleven on eleven, 375 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: he handled Almazard and Watkins both on deep routes. Um. 376 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 1: J Alexander really came to play on Monday, and he 377 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: showed for for as strong as this Packers cornerback group looks, 378 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,959 Speaker 1: there is no question who the alpha dog is in 379 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: that cornerback room because j R. Alexander showed it on 380 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: the practice field Monday. There are a handful less than five, 381 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,360 Speaker 1: I think, guys that I can think of where I've 382 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: watched him on the practice field and I've seen them 383 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: being a zone where it doesn't matter who the receiver 384 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: is who. But the defense looks like they are just 385 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 1: so in cell belief immersed in it that they're going 386 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: to stop the play. And there's about a two minute 387 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: stretch near the end of practice. I was watching team 388 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 1: periods that everyone's just glowing about Jay. I didn't tweet 389 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: it all during that moment. I just watched him and 390 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: whether he's playing off, whether he's jamming, whatever he's doing, 391 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 1: it's just so effortless. You know, I've watched for years 392 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: my cornerbacks that are they're kind of in their own head. 393 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: And it's not just Green Bay, I'm saying league wide, 394 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 1: where you know, they're trying to make sure the footwork 395 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: is right there, trying to make sure that their hands 396 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: are in the right spot off the line of scrimmage. 397 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 1: And Jaire Alexander, it's just I don't want to make 398 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: it sound disrespectful, but it's almost like he's on autopilot 399 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: and he's just an impenetrable wall to be able to 400 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: pass through, because if you beat him, he's going to 401 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: catch up. If he's out within arms reach of you, 402 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: he's going to find his way to the ball in 403 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 1: terms of getting his hands on it, and he does 404 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: it all without really being grabby. Yeah, it's he's He's 405 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: the total Axander. To me, what I've seen when I 406 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 1: when I watch a practice, like he the way he 407 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: performed on Monday. He has an amazing way to combine 408 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: an intensity to what he's doing with everything looking so natural, 409 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 1: and that's just not normal. I mean, normally, you know, 410 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: guys crank up the intensity and then you see it's 411 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 1: like they're exerting all this extra effort and and and 412 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 1: everything like that. And Alexander has a way that he 413 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: can turn up the intensity and still just let his 414 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,959 Speaker 1: natural athletic ability take over. And that's what makes him 415 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: a special player. That's what makes him one of the 416 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: top cornerbacks in this league. And you know, now he's 417 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 1: getting paid like and of course too, and it's fun 418 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: watch him practice again unabated, like you said, I mean, yeah, 419 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 1: there was a little bit of a hiccup there whatever 420 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: you wanna call it, with the tightness. But you know, 421 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 1: even last year when he was trying to get back 422 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 1: into the groove again, he's you know, he's not wearing 423 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: pads for a time. He's only doing individual stuff. Alex 424 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: r Alexander was going on Monday, and you hope it 425 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 1: can be that way the rest of the way because 426 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: if he's ready and he's a game week one, all 427 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: those pieces everybody that's available to the on the defense, 428 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: especially that Nickel. It starts with yeah, absolutely, Well with that, 429 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: we're going to call it a wrap on this edition 430 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: of Packers on Script, and be sure to follow all 431 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: of our coverage of the team training camp. We've got 432 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 1: it all for you on Packers dot Com leading into 433 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: Friday night's preseason opener against San Francisco, and we'll have 434 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: another show previewing that game coming up soon. So for West, 435 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: I am Mike, thank you for tuning in. Everybody, We'll 436 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: see you next time.