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The Phoenix Suns 29 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: went into Boston and kind of got their butt kicked 30 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: a little bit, especially in that third quarter run as 31 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: the Celtics pulled away and went up by twenty. We're 32 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: gonna break down that game from the perspecti of both teams. 33 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: And then after that Dallas Mavericks without Luka Doncic and 34 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: then suffering a couple other injuries along the way, went 35 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: into Oklahoma City and ran into a bit of a 36 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: buzz saw with the hang tight on the strength of 37 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: an incredible Kyrie Irving performance thirty six points and twelve 38 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: assists on just eighteen shots as he kept him close throughout, 39 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: but the Thunder were able to pull away at the end. 40 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 1: So we're gonna break the break down those two games 41 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: from the perspective of both teams. 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The first quarter. Really 92 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: for the first quarter and a half or so kind 93 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: of felt a little bit like the game in Phoenix, 94 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: like there was a lot of shot making from Phoenix. 95 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant road att hot streak into that first quarter, 96 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: came out red hot. Bradley Beal hit some shots in 97 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: the first quarter. They were able to keep it close, 98 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: but the Celtics talent advantage just started to take over 99 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: as they got into that tail end of the second quarter, 100 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: Tatum hasn't been shooting super well as of Lake kind 101 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: of got going. He seems to really get invigorated by 102 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: the individual matchup with KD. It seemed like every time 103 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: he had an opportunity in ISO with some space, he 104 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: was trying to hit KD with dribble combinations and to 105 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: pull up jump shots, and he was hitting them in 106 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: Phoenix hit him again here in Boston. He had an 107 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: incredible game. Jaylen Brown got off to a little bit 108 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 1: of a rough start trying to be aggressive in the post, 109 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: but he really started to get going in that second quarter, 110 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: attacking Bradley Beal and Devin Booker going to the rim. 111 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: But I thought the story of the game was Al 112 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: Horford and he stepped in with Chris tops porzingis being out. 113 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: And you know, again, like when we talk about the Suns, 114 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna dive a little bit deeper into this. But 115 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 1: they're just like all the teams that are after the 116 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: Denver and Boston tier, they're pretty matchup dependent, right, And 117 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: so one of the things specifically that Phoenix is good 118 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 1: with in terms of their interior size is like Nurkic 119 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: is a big body, so when he can play a 120 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: drop coverage and kind of hang out by the basket, 121 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: and when he needs to bang with the other big 122 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: bodied centers in the league, you know, there's real value there. 123 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: But when it comes to defending on the perimeter, especially 124 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,559 Speaker 1: against a team like Boston that picks and pops a lot, 125 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: that puts them in a predicament where Nurkic can struggle 126 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: to defend in space. And so from the opening tip 127 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 1: of this game it became a problem for Phoenix. Started 128 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: with Horford hitting threes in the first half, a couple 129 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: of early ones, spacing the floor and in picking pop situations. 130 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 1: Then they come out in the third quarter and Frank 131 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 1: Vogel tries to address the problem by putting Devin Booker 132 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 1: on al Horford and then putting use of Nurkic and 133 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 1: Drew Holliday. I'm assuming making it an easier rotation so 134 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: we can kind of help. And Drew Holiday typically spaces 135 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 1: to the corner because he's been such a good corner 136 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: three point shooter this year, and so he can maybe 137 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 1: take an easier couple of steps out to offer a contest. 138 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: I'm guessing that was the rationale behind it. But Horford, 139 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: you know, He's had experience as an on ball guy 140 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: in the post a lot in the Atlanta Hawks phase 141 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: of his career. Right like, He's went to work and 142 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: did some damage on the offensive Glass got a couple 143 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: of big offensive rebounds in that third quarter, and then 144 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: there was a play where he just like deep sealed 145 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: on Devin Booker early in an offensive possession, created an 146 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: easy passing angle, got to the foul line, so he 147 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: just started punishing the smaller players for being switched on 148 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: to him. From there, Vogel ends up pulling the plug 149 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: on that, going back to Nurkic John Horford, and then 150 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: he just goes right back to hitting threes and he 151 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: just completely lit up Phoenix and that was the big problem, 152 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: and there was just nothing that Phoenix could do to 153 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: overcome it at that point. And then in the third 154 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: quarter they started to get hot from three again. Jalen 155 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: Brown hit a couple, Sam Houser hit a couple. There 156 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: was another Horford play where he got Devin Booker on 157 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: his top side and created a passing angle at the 158 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: foul line, and Jason Tatum made a really nice kind 159 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: of over the top feed as soon as he caught it. 160 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: They had no choice. I think it was Royce O'Neil 161 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,559 Speaker 1: covering Sam Hauser in the corner. He had no choice 162 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: but to step over and help. Horford made the extra pass. 163 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: Horf Hawser was wide open in the corner, knocked it down. 164 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: Howser got a little bit of rhythm from that, came 165 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: flying off of a screening action on the right side 166 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: of the floor and came off and hit a three. 167 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: Broke the game open from there, went up by twenty 168 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: and never looked back. It was just an absurd jump 169 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: shooting game from Boston. They took twenty five threes and 170 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,119 Speaker 1: made fifty percent of them, so twenty five for fifty 171 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: from the field. They took forty eight jump shots overall, 172 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: made seventy or excuse me, scored seventy points on the 173 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: forty eight jump shots one point four to six points 174 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: per shot, which is completely insane. Twenty five points on 175 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: eighteen pull up jumpers two, so they were deadly on 176 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: off the dribble jump shots. They converted ISOs at one 177 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: point twenty nine points per possession, so like just all 178 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: their sheer talent stuff shining through in this game, one 179 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,359 Speaker 1: point zero nine points per ISO and post up combined, 180 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: they converted spot up possessions at one point seventy five 181 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: points per possession. Just a completely ridiculous demonstration of skill 182 00:08:57,760 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: from the Boston Celtics in this game. I was on 183 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: the sport I was on Fox Sports Radio and Phoenix 184 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: this morning, and one of the Benjamin, the guy who's 185 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: hosting the show this morning, asked me. He goes like, hey, 186 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: like like what can the Suns do? Like what was 187 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 1: it that they were unable to match in this particular 188 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 1: game from from Boston? And one of the things I 189 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:19,719 Speaker 1: said to him was like, like, there's two ways to 190 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 1: look at it. There's the matchup element, like Phoenix is, 191 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: you know, Boston's kind of a tough matchup for Phoenix. 192 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: But there's also just the absurdity of Boston ceiling, which 193 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,439 Speaker 1: is something we've glossed over a lot when we talk 194 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: about the Celtics in general, in terms of the way 195 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: I see the Celtics discussed around the league, Like do 196 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: they have some issues, of course, just like every team 197 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: in the league does, right, But like their issues rear 198 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 1: their ugly head rarely and more often than not, they 199 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: make the shots they take. They shoot, you know, you know, 200 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: a c fifty something jumpers and convert them at almost 201 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: a damn near point and a half per shot, and 202 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: they kick everyone's ass. And that's always on the table 203 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: as an outcome with this team. And that's why, despite 204 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: the fact that I view Denver as the safe bet 205 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: to win the title, I view Boston on the same 206 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: tier as them, because you can't count out the idea 207 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: that potentially they might just out talent everybody, like they 208 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: have the ability to take eighteen pull up jump shots 209 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: in a game and make twenty five or score twenty 210 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 1: five points on them, Like they have the ability to 211 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: just get so damn red hot that there's nothing you 212 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: can do defensively to cover for it. Like that's the thing, 213 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: especially when it comes to Horford and porzingis when they're 214 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: hitting the pick and pop threes and the spacing threes, 215 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: it just completely wrecks any defense because if you're gonna 216 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 1: have any hope to deal with these rangey wings and 217 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: guards that they have, you're gonna have to have backside help. 218 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: And if you're gonna have backside help, you're typically gonna 219 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: do that from the center position, whether it's in pick 220 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: and roll or even just in off ball situations, and 221 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: most teams you can live with that because they don't 222 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: have the the plethora of shooting at the center position 223 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:53,719 Speaker 1: that Boston has. But Boston just has a ton of 224 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: shooting at the center position. Like again, this Porzingis didn't 225 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: even play tonight and they torched them with pick and 226 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: pop bass. So like at the end of the day, 227 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 1: like we're going to talk about Phoenix in the matchup 228 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: here a little bit more deep, but like the reality 229 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: is is sometimes with Boston you just get to lose 230 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: sometimes when like Jalen Brown's playing like a top ten 231 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: player as of late. He's averaging thirty points and six 232 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: rebounds in his last nine games, two point eighty three 233 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: assist to turnover ratio over that Spansho's taking care of 234 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: the basketball, making good plays. He just did an unbelievable 235 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: job on the ball on Devin Booker last night. He's 236 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: playing legitimately like a superstar over the course of the 237 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: last few weeks. And you're combining that with Jason Tatum, 238 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: who's been a top ten player forever, right, and you're 239 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: combining that with Derek White and Drew Holliday, these amazing 240 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: two way guards. You're combining that with what Al Horford 241 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: and Christops Porzinks bring at the center position and what 242 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: Sam Houser brings and shooting off the bench, it is 243 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: just an absurdity of talent and when it's clicking on 244 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: all cylinders, there's literally nothing you can do. All you 245 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: can do is try to play them into their worst 246 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: tendencies and pray that they start getting cold and they 247 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: start to kind of fall apart from there. But again, 248 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: there's a certain amount of that that you can't control, 249 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: just with the sheer amount of talent on the floor. 250 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: And it's hard enough to guard any team in the 251 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: NBA when they spread you out, let alone a team 252 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: that has this kind of talent as far as the 253 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: matchup goes for Phoenix, you know, I've talked a lot 254 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: about this specific concept over the last month since the 255 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 1: All Star breaks. We've been diving deeper into the playoff 256 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: teams and their strengths and weaknesses. In my opinion, once 257 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: you get past Boston and Denver, every team beyond that, Minnesota, Milwaukee, 258 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: the Clippers, the Suns, all those teams, all of them 259 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: have flaws, right, and they have strengths as well. All 260 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,199 Speaker 1: those teams have like absurd strengths. Right, Like, if we 261 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: talk about the Knicks, it's like they just have a 262 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: really physically imposing team one through five when they're healthy. Right, 263 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: You're not going to find a more like like like stout, physical, strong, 264 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: you know, bully ball on both ends of the four 265 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: type of lineup than Jalen Bronson, Dante DiVincenzo with og 266 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: and Andobi, Julius Randall and Mitchell Robbins when they're healthy, right, 267 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 1: Giannis and Dame for the Bucks. You know, the insane 268 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,839 Speaker 1: amount of shot creation for the Clippers, the insane amount 269 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: of shock creation for the Suns. All those teams have strengths, 270 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: but they also have weaknesses. And what that means is 271 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: who they play is going to play a massive factor 272 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: and who ends up advancing in this playoff run. And 273 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: that's why we're going to continue to build that concept out, 274 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: the matchup strengths and weaknesses of both teams as we 275 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: head into mid April, because once we get to those 276 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: first round series and we start doing our series previews, 277 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 1: that's going to be a big thing that helps determine 278 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: which teams I picked to advance. It's going to have 279 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: to have a lot to do with matchups. So, for instance, 280 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: we've talked about like teams like Sacramento giving the Lakers 281 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: issues with perimeter speed. Well, they've also struggled with the 282 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: Nuggets because of their interior size. Right, Nicole Jokich can 283 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: bury Anthony Davis under the rim, Sobonus can bury Anthony 284 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,199 Speaker 1: Davis under the rim. Well, Nurkic is actually one of 285 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: the bigger bodied centers in the league, and he can 286 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: hold up really well against that sort of thing, and 287 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: so he can actually make the game a little bit 288 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 1: tougher for Yokich than a lot of other centers can. 289 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: And so in that specific dynamic, and especially this season, 290 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: because Jokic's jump shot is continued to trend down, He's 291 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: down to zero point nine to nine points per jump shot, 292 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: so he's below a point per jump shot this year, 293 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: when he was at one point one seven points per 294 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: jump shot last year. So they're not as much of 295 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: a pick and pop team as they showed in the 296 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: postseason last year because Jokich is just one of those 297 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: guys now where you don't necessarily have to close out 298 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: as hard on him, at least with the way that 299 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: he's been shooting as of lake, maybe that changes when 300 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: we get to the postseason. So for Phoenix, Nurkic can 301 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: drop back in ball screens, right, they can put speed 302 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: on the ball, like whether that's Bradley Beehler or Royce 303 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: O'Neil or Grayson Allen. Right, they could dig down off 304 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: the on the perimeter because they have the speed in rotation. 305 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: It's a matchup that works well for Phoenix. By the way, 306 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: I'd picked Denver to beat Phoenix in a series. But 307 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: that's why I look at Phoenix as a team that's 308 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: a legitimate threat to knock off Denver. It's a good 309 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: matchup there. Now we go to Boston. Boston is this 310 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: interesting team because they have a not only do they 311 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: have a signific better Arsenal perimeter defenders to throw at 312 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant, Devin Booker and Bradley Beal in terms of 313 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: just the like Jalen Brown, Jason Tatum, Derek White, jew Holiday, 314 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: and just the level of perimeter defense talent compared to 315 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: KCP and Aaron Gordon, who are two really good players 316 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: in that regard. Cacp's gonna make an All Defense team 317 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: this year. But there's a certain amount of like they 318 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: just have so much more that they have to do, 319 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: and they don't have continuing options down the roster to 320 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: keep throwing at KD and Bradley Beal on Devin Booker. Right, 321 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: So Boston has these perimeter advantages, but also they are 322 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: a five out team that plays a lot of pick 323 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: and pop basketball, and so that makes it so that 324 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: Nurkic is not gaining the advantage of being able to 325 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: body a bigger center. Nurkic this year has been capable 326 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: of scoring in the post against mismatches, but it also 327 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: can get ugly too. How many times you see last 328 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: night Nurkics try to, you know, bully his way underneath 329 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: the basket, and he just exposes the basketball too much 330 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: and guys cannot get away from him. He tends to 331 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: either mishots or turn it over down there quite a bit. 332 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: So like you're not getting as much of the benefit 333 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: of Nurkic being out there. And then on the other 334 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: end of the floor, they can just continually uh uh, 335 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: put him in space and put them in pick and 336 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: pop situations and pick them apart from the three point line, 337 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: and so like that that it's just a tough matchup. 338 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: They're they're they're they're gonna make the Suns make a 339 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: ton of pull up jump shots against a team that's 340 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: gonna be really good at defending them. And and yeah, 341 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: so like that that that specific issue is something I'm 342 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: gonna continue to dive in as we get into the 343 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: next month. But like, this is the kind of team 344 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: that Phoenix is gonna struggle with, a real pick and 345 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: pop team. Oklahoma City there's another great example. Like, uh, 346 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: one of the things that kind of reared its ugly 347 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: head in that second half of the Suns is a 348 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: lot of the same stuff that they struggled with all season. 349 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: Like they had some turnovers. They had five turnovers in 350 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: the third quarter, Bradley Beal had three. H Drew Holliday 351 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: kept like poking the ball away as dudes were trying 352 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: to snake and pick and roll, just with this relentless 353 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: back pressure and stuff like that. Like the Thunder do 354 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: that too. The Thunder our team that's really aggressive on 355 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: the ball. They're way better at forcing turnovers than Boston is. 356 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: Austin's actually not all that good at forcing turnovers. Right, So, 357 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: like Ogoma City is playing passing lanes and being super aggressive. 358 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 1: We've seen what they can do to Phoenix, and same 359 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 1: sort of thing with chet Holmgren as a pick and 360 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 1: pop guy, and you know of putting Nurkicchen too a predictament. Now, 361 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: Nurgiic can do a lot of damage on the glass 362 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 1: in that matchup, but he struggles defensively, and then obviously 363 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: it's a bad matchup for the Sun's perimeter players for 364 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: all the reasons we just talked about. So like again, 365 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: I like, I'm a big believer in Phoenix. I think 366 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: they have a real chance to get out of the 367 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: Western Conference. I would say I'm I was originally on 368 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 1: the Clippers in this regard, but they continue to play 369 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 1: some relatively mediocre basketball. So like, I'm kind of on 370 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: the fence between Phoenix and and the Clippers as that 371 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: number two team in the West behind Denver, But I'm 372 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: tempted to pick Phoenix. It just once again, like all 373 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 1: these teams, it's gonna come down to their matchups and 374 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: who they face along the way. All right, moving on 375 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: a mass thunder, So obviously the Maser down Luka Doncics 376 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 1: in this game, Dante exem got hurt in the second 377 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: half when kind of a gnarly play Josh Green twisted 378 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: his ankle at the start of the game. So like obviously, 379 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: not a whole lot you can take from the MAVs, 380 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 1: Kyrie did just play a magnificent game as an offensive 381 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 1: initiator to keep him in it, thirty six points on 382 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 1: just eighteen shots, twelve assists. The thunder throwing everything at 383 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: him too. In the third quarter, they started just sending 384 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 1: straight up double teams when Kyrie was just ribbling thirty 385 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: feet from the basket and single coverage, not even in 386 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: a ball screen. They were just sending a double team. 387 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: They started blitzing him in ball screens, helping hard on 388 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: his drives. But it didn't matter because Kyrie's Kyrie and 389 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: he's incredible, and we'll get a little bit further into that, 390 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: but that kept the game close. But a monster game 391 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: from Jalen Williams on the Oklahoma City Thunderside at twenty 392 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: seven excuse me, at twenty seven points, thirteenth time the 393 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: season he scored at least twenty five in a game, 394 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: had everything going, Several nice driving finishes and scoop shots, 395 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: including a nasty one against Daniel Gafford in the fourth 396 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: quarter where gafferd went straight straight vertical it got into 397 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 1: his body and finished on the side of him. He 398 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: had his catching shoot three going those bump off pull 399 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: up jumpers that he hits where like he just drives 400 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: really hard to the right and then like hits you 401 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: and then squares up mid air and hits that like 402 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 1: little twelve footer. Jalen Williams actually is up to one 403 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: point one four points per pull up jump shot and 404 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 1: Harden has gone down a little bit level, So Jaalen 405 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: Williams is now the best high volume pull up shooter 406 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: in the league this year. How crazy is that forty 407 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: players have attempted at least two hundred and fifty of them, 408 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: Jalen Williams is one point one four points per possession, 409 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 1: ranks first in that group. But it's even bizarre just 410 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:22,959 Speaker 1: watching it on tape because like he's a twenty two 411 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: year old and he's like bodying grown men in the NBA. 412 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 1: There's a play where he bodied Dante xhim and took 413 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: like a little fade away, and like Dante Xim is 414 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: a pretty big and strong guard who was like healthy 415 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: into his career like a grown man and in his 416 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 1: prime athletically, and and Jalen Williams just bullied him to 417 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 1: get to his spot and then like his competitiveness just 418 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: screams off the screen. He had this block on a 419 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: one on one break with Derek Jones Junior, where he 420 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: blocked him and just screamed to the crowd. He had 421 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 1: I missed the three with just under a minute left 422 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter and there was an offensive rebound. 423 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 1: He cut down the lane that went back door, just 424 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: dunked it and screamed to the crowd, And like that 425 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: was something that stood out to me when I saw 426 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: him in Summer League. But like Jalen Williams, to me, 427 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: the work ethic and the competitiveness combined with the natural 428 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 1: gifts that he has, the dude's just going to be 429 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 1: a star. And last night was just another little sneak 430 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: peak of what it's going to be like nightly when 431 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 1: we get a couple of years further in his career. 432 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: Josh Giddy, the Dallas was really ignoring him all night 433 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 1: on the three point line of coverage he's seen a 434 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 1: lot this season, but he did hit two huge ones 435 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 1: in the second half when he finally found a stroke. 436 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: Shay Gibs Alexander put in an a fish in thirty 437 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: one like clockwork, like he always does. But I want 438 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: to focus on Oklahoma City's defense. They forced Dallas in 439 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: nineteen turnovers. They scored thirty four points on those turnovers. 440 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: They leave the league in turnover turnovers. And this concept 441 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 1: we've talked about a lot this year. But like they 442 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: ball pressure and then they have a ton of perimeter speed, 443 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 1: so they're really aggressive in passing lanes. Now there's a 444 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: downside to that. When you get aggressive in passing lanes 445 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: and you miss the basketball, you can leave openings and 446 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 1: they do give up a lot of three point shots 447 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 1: as a result. They give up nineteen wide open threes 448 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:56,719 Speaker 1: per gaming the defenders at least six feet away. That's 449 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: the eleventh most in the NBA. They give up thirty 450 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 1: six three point attempts to which is eighth most in 451 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: the NBA. But the flip side of that is because 452 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: they're playing the passing lanes and they're so aggressive in 453 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 1: their coverages, they just force so many turnovers and they 454 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 1: get out and transition so much that more often than not, 455 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 1: that transition, that tradeoff works in their favor. Like even 456 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 1: in k Kyrie had a great game right twelve assists, 457 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: but he had four turnovers, and there were a couple 458 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:19,679 Speaker 1: ones that he had there in the second half that 459 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 1: were just pick sixes, where like, here comes the blitz 460 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: and he just throws some looping pass over the top 461 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: that has no chance. Somebody shoots in underneath that sends 462 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: it out the other way, and they're running right like 463 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: they just they they play that trade off game. They're 464 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: gonna give up some offensive rebounds, they're gonna give up 465 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: some wide open threes because of their aggression. But the 466 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: flip side is they just get out in transition. That's 467 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 1: thirty six points off of tur or thirty four points 468 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: off of turnovers. That's a significant swing in this particular game. 469 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 1: Really smart adjustment to In the fourth quarter from Mark Dageneld, 470 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: there was a moment where Jaydon Hardy started going and 471 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: pick and roll was really getting downhill and getting to 472 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: the rim and finishing. There's actually kind of a fun 473 00:21:56,280 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 1: back and forth between j dub and and I've lost 474 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: my train of thought for there for so Jaden Hardy, sorry, 475 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 1: there was a fun little back and forth between Jaydeen 476 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: Hardy and Jalen Williams in that early fourth quarter stretch 477 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: Dagenald made an adjustment though, Like again, when you're running 478 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: pick and roll, it's a main and man type of action, 479 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: and he was getting downhill in it just baked in 480 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 1: with the way the coverage was set up. So by 481 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 1: going zone and they run like this like kind of 482 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: one two two matchup zone kind of thing. Matchup zone 483 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 1: meaning like you're in charge of an area, but when 484 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 1: a guy comes into your area, you guard him like 485 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 1: he's man to man. Then when he leaves your area 486 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: you pass him off basically right. But by doing that 487 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: it essentially shut down that pick and roll action and 488 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: cooled Jayden Hardy off and they were able to kind 489 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: of regain control of the game. Just a really good 490 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: win broke Glahoma City against the team again like a 491 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving with all those guys out, it'd be one 492 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: thing to take them lightly and to go light into 493 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 1: that game, but Hirie threw a great punch. Uh. There 494 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: was a lot of good for Dallas in this game, 495 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: which we're gonna get to in a minute, and they 496 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: overcame it. They got a big win on the mass front. 497 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: Not too much to take away other than it just 498 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: feels like injuries are stacking up again, which is really unfortunate. Obviously, 499 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 1: Luca's hamstring, Josh Green turned his ankle, Dante Exam took 500 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: a shot in the second half. Always going to be 501 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: hard to win a road game against a really good 502 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: team when you're down that many guys. But there are 503 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 1: four silver linings that I want to hit for Dallas. 504 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: One Kyrie erving is just incredible. This has been a 505 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: reminder of why you make this trade last year, and 506 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 1: it's why I looked at it so much as this 507 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: year being the year for Dallas to be a threat 508 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 1: because they actually had the time to surround them with 509 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,959 Speaker 1: the necessary pieces that they need. But Kyrie's just demonstrating that, 510 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: like when it comes to that skill guard role, the 511 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 1: ability to score and the ability to play make out 512 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 1: of ball screens and to just run an offense. He's 513 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 1: still one of the top fifteen to twenty guys in 514 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: the league that can do that, and it's just a 515 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 1: rare asset to have on your team. Tim Hardaway Junior, 516 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: he had been in a shooting slump. He got his 517 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: three point shot going. That's encouraging. Talked about Jaydon Hardy's 518 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: rim pressure in the fourth quarter. I thought that was 519 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: a really nice mix up for them and something that 520 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: I think is encouraging in the big picture because obviously, 521 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: like that downhill speed is something that Luca and Kyrie 522 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: don't bring a ton and so jaydon Hardy I thought 523 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: that was an impressive strike from him. And then lastly, 524 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: Derek Glively. There's a play, so you guys might remember. 525 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 1: It was kind of a broken play transition play for 526 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 1: Oklahoma City. I think Shay or somebody tried to throw 527 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: a skip ahead pass and maxic Leebould jumped up and 528 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 1: knocked it with his hand, so it's kind of like 529 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: a transition chaos possession. And on the play, Derek Lively 530 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: ended up kiss On Wallace on him, so they were 531 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 1: on a quick ball screen with Kyrie and Kasson Wallace 532 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: like shows high and Chet's or excuse me, Derek Lively slips, 533 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 1: and when Derek Glives slips, Kyrie hits him over the top. 534 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 1: But Chet is the low man in this possession and 535 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: he comes over and he meets Derek Lively right. So 536 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,479 Speaker 1: Lively's got the ball deep post position, but he's got 537 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: a player right behind him, and he just patiently worked 538 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: into a drop step, a drop step hook over his 539 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 1: left shoulder with his right hand and he knocked it 540 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 1: down and I was like a member. If you guys, 541 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 1: remember I was talking about how I think Derek Lively 542 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 1: has the potential to be kind of like a Tyson Chandler, 543 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: and like one of the things that I think can 544 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: help him really raise his impact overall at the center 545 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: position is just being able to make a quick left shoulder, 546 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: right handed hook over a switch, let alone against another 547 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: center when you have that deep a position. He's up 548 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 1: to sixteen for thirty on hook shots this year. That's 549 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: fifty three percent for a rookie. That's pretty impressive, albeit 550 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: low volume. And he does have the touch in the 551 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 1: patience there, which I think is super encouraging. So again, 552 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: tough one for the MAVs. Not too much to take 553 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 1: away from it considering the circumstances, but some silver linings 554 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 1: there for you guys. All right, let's move on to 555 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: our mailbag. We have four questions today, have them on 556 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 1: my phone today. First one offensively, what does Jonathan Kminga 557 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 1: need to work on in the off season besides ball 558 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 1: handling and three point shooting to become a legit number 559 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,959 Speaker 1: two option. So again to become a legit number two option. Offensively, 560 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 1: it's a lot more complicated than just one specific skill, right, 561 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: Like ball handling and shooting are vague concepts too, Like 562 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: shooting could mean just catching shoot shooting. Shooting could mean movement, shooting. 563 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: Shooting can mean off the dribble shooting right. Ball handling 564 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: that could mean attacking closeouts, that could mean working in 565 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 1: ISO and post up situations. That could also mean running 566 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: ball screens. Right. A big one too for Golden State, 567 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: which is an important part of this discussion. We got 568 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: into this in the mail bag yesterday, But just the 569 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 1: difference in the different kinds of offenses, right, So like 570 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 1: the kinds of skills you need in a four out 571 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: one in offense versus from a role player versus the 572 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: kinds of skills you need in a five out offense, right, 573 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 1: and just all the players on the perimeter. So in 574 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 1: the I out offense specifically, the way Golden State plays 575 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: read and react is a huge part of the skill development. 576 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: What that means is like the ability to quickly interpret 577 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 1: what's happening in front of you and make these decisions. 578 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 1: So it's kind of like option routes in the NFL. 579 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: So like if you remember in the NFL, like you 580 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 1: might have a guy that reads the linebacker out of 581 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: the tight end spot, and if the linebackers here, he 582 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: quick turns for a hitch. If the linebacker's there, he 583 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 1: might run a five yard out instead, right, Like, these 584 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: these are read and react plays for the tight end 585 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 1: where he's coming off the line, reading what the linebacker's 586 00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: doing and then making a decision. It's the same kind 587 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: of thing five out basketball, Like you're setting up for 588 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: this screening action, but it's very read and react in 589 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: the sense that like if your guys top locking, you 590 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 1: you backdoor. If your guys trailing, you want to curl, right, 591 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 1: Like if your guys ducking under the pick, you want 592 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 1: to flare. Like there's all these different things that you're reading, 593 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 1: and especially in three man actions, you might, you know, 594 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 1: change your mind on who's coming out of the screen right, 595 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 1: or you might slip out of it entirely. There's so 596 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 1: many different things that you do read and react basketball 597 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: in five out basketball, and so some of that is 598 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 1: not even skill development, it's just reps. And like Jonathan 599 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: Kminga just needs lots and lots of reps playing alongside 600 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: Steph in this five out system to just kind of 601 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: learn how to be better at reading and reacting. But 602 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: like if I had to put it simply to be 603 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 1: a legitimate second side creator, or I should say, a 604 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: second option on a championship team, you have to be 605 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 1: truly transcendently great at something. Now. To me, for Jonathan Minga, 606 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: that's gonna be an isopost thing. His best skill right 607 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,360 Speaker 1: now is he is so freaky athletic at his size 608 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: that most of the players that are big enough to 609 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: handle him too slow and that are fast enough to 610 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 1: handle him or too small right, and so he can 611 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: get defenders out of position, he can draw fouls, he 612 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 1: can get baskets. He's a good on an island score. 613 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: There's real value there now. To push it to the 614 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 1: elite level where he needs to get, he needs to 615 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,199 Speaker 1: be a great playmaker in those situations. So again, the 616 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 1: ability to read the floor identify where the help is 617 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: coming from. A lot of teams bring late help on 618 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: Kaminga after he puts the ball on the floor. But 619 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: once he can read those things, he can be a 620 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 1: truly elite isolation and post up player because you can 621 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: run that action ten to fifteen or like you know, 622 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 1: five ten times a game, and in those five ten possessions, 623 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: you're going to get consistent, great production regardless of the 624 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: coverage that he faces. Right, But in addition to that, 625 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: he also has to be able to play in the 626 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: flow of the offense. That's one of the big things 627 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: for cominga right now is he's good on an island, 628 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: not so great in the flow, and so that's going 629 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: to be where his areas of improvement are from there, 630 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: It's going to be about like ball handling, specifically ball 631 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: handling in traffic, ball handling in ball screens. So being 632 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: able to what that means is like, let's say he 633 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: brings his man up the floor, but he's got a 634 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: good perimeter defender on it. As before he comes off 635 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: a ball screen, he needs to set him up, meaning 636 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: like he needs to make a move to one side 637 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: of the screen and then do a retreat dribble to 638 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: get the defender into a trailing position on that side 639 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: before he goes and uses the ball screen. That's an 640 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: intricate part of ball handling that I'll have to figure out. 641 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: Right Then, once he's coming off the screen, making those reads, Okay, 642 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: the defender's in a deep drop. I want to get 643 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: a head of steam going to the basket. Okay, Oh, 644 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: the defender's a little bit higher and the on ball 645 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: guy is trailing behind me. I need to use my 646 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: size to put the defender in jail, keep him trapped 647 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: behind me. Start working slowly down the floor until something 648 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: develops in front of me and the developing part that's 649 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: making the reads reading the low man. Okay, I brought 650 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: the screen defender up, which means the guy in the 651 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: dunker spots open hit him, or I brought the screen 652 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: defender up and they rotated out of the corner. I 653 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: got to make this skip pass. Right. All these reads 654 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: that he has to get used to making, those are 655 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: reads that if he wants to be in the five 656 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 1: out coming off of those dhos and coming up off 657 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: of those impromptu ball screens, that he's going to have 658 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: to get better at. Right, But again, to me, to 659 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: be the legit number two, he needs to be the 660 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: best possible version of the isopost up player that he is, 661 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: which primarily is a play a playmaking thing at this point, 662 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: and then to be able to function normally in their 663 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: five out offense so that he can maintain his impact 664 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: when he's not being super aggressive on the ball, and 665 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: then from there just you know, making the defensive improvements 666 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: that we know he needs to write like, he's a 667 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: good on ball guy right now, but he can be 668 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: a little unfocused off ball. So like, there's lots of 669 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: areas of improvement for a player this young, but to 670 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: become a legit number two, that's just kind of a 671 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: little breakdown of what he needs to do offensively, all right, 672 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: Next question Cavs fan here. I obviously know there's a 673 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: defined second round seiling with them, assuming this happens, what 674 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: do you think they should do this offseason? Personally, I 675 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: think making mobilely bulk up and move to the five 676 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: and replacing Allen with the wing who can shoot and 677 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: move his feet is a good start. So one of 678 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: the things I really find this interesting because it actually 679 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 1: falls very similarly to some of the issues that I've 680 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: been dealing with as a Laker. Right So, Evan Mobley 681 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: is in this awkward position right now, where like, to 682 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:12,959 Speaker 1: play the four, he needs to make a significant improvement offensively, 683 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: right just in terms of his skill, ball handling, shooting, 684 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: all that stuff. But to play the five, he might 685 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: have some issues in terms of his overall physical bulk. Right, 686 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: even if he puts on muscle, he might run into 687 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: similar issues to Anthony Davis. Now, Anthony Davis, when he 688 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: was at the four and had some success with the 689 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: Lakers in the twenty twenty and twenty twenty one seasons, 690 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: he was a much better offensive skill player, right, a 691 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: guy you could throw the ball to on the block 692 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: and he was gonna iso score and hit a bunch 693 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: of jump shots and all this kind of stuff. Right then, 694 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: what happened was is he had an offensive decline. And 695 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: as that offensive decline happened in twenty twenty one twenty 696 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: twenty two, all of a sudden it became untenable to 697 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: run Anthony Davis next to a five, because if you 698 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: ran him next to a five, you were physically imposing, 699 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: but you did and have the skill you needed at 700 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: the four spot to make it work, right, that was 701 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: the issue they'd have because you'd have like a d 702 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: who can't shoot next to some other shooter center who 703 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: couldn't shoot right. And like, even when they did have 704 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 1: a center who cold shoot, a guy like a you know, 705 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: guys like Thomas Bryant. Briefly there with the Russell Westbrook 706 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: team or like a Marcus Sool. They weren't teams that 707 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: like there weren't guys that teams were like really guarding 708 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: out there, right, And so the issue is, if you're 709 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 1: gonna play Evan Mobley at the four, you're gonna deal 710 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: much better physically with teams because mobile at the four, 711 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 1: next to a legitimate center like Jared Allen, you're gonna 712 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: be really physically imposing at times. Although they did get 713 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: a little bit overwhelmed by the Knicks last year, but 714 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: that only works if Evan Mobley makes the strides offensively. 715 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: And what ended up killing them wasn't just the physical 716 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: stuff that they dealt with Mitchell Robinson, but their inability 717 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: to score and pick and roll because of Jared Allen 718 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: and Evan Mobley operating in the short role and out 719 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 1: of the dunker spot. They just couldn't score effectively out 720 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: of there. I want to say, Evan Mobley was like 721 00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: zero for ten shooting out of the role last year 722 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: in that series. Right, So, like offensive skill is a 723 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: prerequisite to play the four now, but if you play 724 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 1: the five, you're gonna run into a lot of issues 725 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,479 Speaker 1: in terms of his overall physical books bulk, Right, So 726 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: that's really the turning point for the Calves is like, 727 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: is Evan Mobley gonna develop offensively or is he the 728 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: next to Anthony Davis, the guy that like has offensive 729 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 1: moments but for whatever reason just never develops in terms 730 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: of his skill set the way that he needs to. 731 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: And that's up to Evan for the record, Like I mean, 732 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: I even feel like with Anthony Davis, like from what 733 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: I've heard behind the scenes, like the dude just out 734 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: of the season just takes like two straight months off, 735 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: and like that's one of those things where like skill 736 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: development in particular is literally a lifestyle. Skill development is 737 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: a twelve month thing, and so like it is a 738 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 1: like it is something that like Evan Mobley would have 739 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: to commit to and really spend the time to make 740 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: those improvements to be good enough from from an offensive 741 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: standpoint at the four. If not, if you slide him 742 00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: to the five, then your four has to be super 743 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: physically posing. You're gonna need somebody of Aaron Gordon's ilk 744 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: at the four to put next to Evan Mobley because 745 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: of his size limitations. Right, That's what makes the lebron 746 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: ad frontline still functional defensively, against most matchups. Albeit he's 747 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: had his issues against those big bodied centers like we've 748 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,439 Speaker 1: talked about, but it's Lebron James. He's a really big center, 749 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,439 Speaker 1: and so when Lebron is really engaged defensively, the two 750 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 1: of them make for really physically imposing four to five. So, like, 751 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: that's the way I look at it. The crossroads is 752 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,800 Speaker 1: Evan Mobley's offensive development. If he becomes a gifted offensive player, 753 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: you keep him at the four. If he doesn't, you 754 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 1: have to put him at the five, and you have 755 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,399 Speaker 1: to put some sort of big bodied four next to him. 756 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 1: All right, next more, we have two questions and then 757 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: we're done. Now, Jason, we need you to address Zeke 758 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: disrespecting Steph Curry on Draymond's pod. Love the Show, by 759 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,919 Speaker 1: the way, thank you for supporting the show. So there's 760 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,800 Speaker 1: two things that I wanted to hit from the Draymond 761 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 1: Green Isaiah Thomas interview. First, the idea that like Kevin 762 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 1: Durant saved them when he went in twenty seventeen. Here's 763 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: the thing, I think if Kevin Durant did not sign 764 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: with the Warriors in the summer of twenty seventeen, that 765 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:09,919 Speaker 1: the that the Warriors still repeat and go and win 766 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: back to back titles in twenty seventeen twenty eighteen. No, 767 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 1: I don't think they repeat, but they were still one 768 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 1: of the very best teams in the league. They would 769 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,439 Speaker 1: have been every They would have been every bit as 770 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 1: likely to win the title as the Cavs in twenty seventeen. 771 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 1: Like I, my best guess is that if you play 772 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 1: that same set up again without Kevin Durant going to 773 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: the Warriors, the Cavs split it. They probably get one 774 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: more and the Warriors probably get one more in the 775 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen twenty eighteen stretch. So like, yeah, Kevin Durant 776 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: put them over the top to being completely unbeatable and 777 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: they won two titles, But that doesn't mean that that 778 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 1: Warriors team wasn't good. That's ridiculous. They won seventy three 779 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: games the year before. It required absolute heroic basketball from 780 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving and Lebron James to barely squeak out a 781 00:35:56,280 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 1: seven game win in Golden State in twenty sixteen. So 782 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 1: like pretending as though they weren't a championship contender without KD, 783 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: that's just something I completely disagree with. Like Kaiti doesn't 784 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 1: sign with Golden State, goes somewhere else. The Warriors win 785 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: one of those two titles in twenty seventeen or twenty eighteen. 786 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 1: In my opinion, that's just how good they were. So like, 787 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 1: I don't really buy into that revisionist history. Like even 788 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 1: when we evaluate Steph like no KD, I still think 789 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 1: we look at him as a three time champion and 790 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 1: probably a two times finals MVP and should have been 791 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: a three time finals MVP. So like, I don't really 792 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 1: buy into that line of thinking. On the point guard front, 793 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: this is something that I find incredibly silly because everyone 794 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: wants to associate point guard with one specific style of play, 795 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: which is like the guy who brings the ball up 796 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 1: the floor and makes all the decisions. But like that 797 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,720 Speaker 1: is really a dying breed these days, you don't really 798 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 1: see that very much in the NBA in general. As 799 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 1: a matter of fact, the guys who bring the ball 800 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 1: up the floor and make all the decisions now are 801 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 1: the James Hard James Harden in twenty twenty, twenty twenty 802 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 1: one kind of y eighteen twenty nineteen, I mean, kind 803 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 1: of stretch. And then it's like Luka Doncic and like 804 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,799 Speaker 1: Trey Young, And it's like that's not even like a 805 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: positional thing, that's like a heliocentric play style kind of thing. 806 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 1: The truth of the matter is is like the positions 807 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 1: in the NBA more have to do with who you 808 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,799 Speaker 1: can guard, right Like can you guard a guard? Can 809 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 1: you guard a six ' five two guard? Can you 810 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 1: guard a lanky wing who scores on the perimeter like 811 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,319 Speaker 1: a Paul George. Can you guard a power wing like 812 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 1: an Aaron Gordon or Lebron James or Ruy Hatchamur or whatever. 813 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,360 Speaker 1: In the front court? Can you guard a big bodied center? 814 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 1: Can you guard a skinny skilled center? Those are the positions. 815 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 1: But like saying Steph Curry's not a point guard is 816 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: not fair because there's like not that many point guards 817 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 1: in the NBA by the traditional mold, like what Isaiah 818 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 1: Thomas was anyway, And by the way, just go back 819 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 1: and look at why that position archetype was a thing. 820 00:37:55,760 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 1: Back then, the vast majority forwards couldn't dribble in most 821 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:08,359 Speaker 1: hubs or centers and forwards, so you needed a ball 822 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 1: handling point guard that could bring the ball up against 823 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 1: pressure and make a post entry pass or if it's 824 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,839 Speaker 1: a wing scorer if they run an action to get 825 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 1: that wingscore position somewhere on the floor, you needed the 826 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 1: point guard to get the ball to him. Nowadays, the 827 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 1: level of ball handling that we get down the roster, 828 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,759 Speaker 1: including at the forward position, is so insane that you 829 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:30,879 Speaker 1: no longer need a point guard to make a post 830 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:35,279 Speaker 1: entry pass. And so as a result of that, like 831 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 1: that point guard position is actually better to have, like 832 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 1: a guy who can run pick and roll and score 833 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 1: right or do more high level playmaking. But like the 834 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 1: high level playmaking at a pick and roll piece, we 835 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 1: literally see every position do that, including centers. Now we 836 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 1: see Giannis and Nikole Yoki's running inverted pick and roll 837 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,840 Speaker 1: all the time now, so like to me, that conversation 838 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 1: is completely pointless. The bottom line is at it's Steph's archetype, 839 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 1: which is like your prime Marry offensive hub guard, which 840 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 1: is more or less what the point guard is now 841 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,799 Speaker 1: in the modern NBA. He's been the best at it 842 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 1: in this era. No one's done it better at the 843 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 1: guard position. So like the fact that he's off ball 844 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 1: more than most players is irrelevant to me. And by 845 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 1: the way, if you ran a spread pick and roll 846 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 1: four out one end system and you just spammed ball 847 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,360 Speaker 1: screens with Steph like Trey Young, he would just be 848 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 1: a better version of Trey Young. Steph can do that too. 849 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,760 Speaker 1: If you let Steph play the way that Tray Young plays, 850 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 1: he'd average thirty five and twelve, but the Warriors wouldn't 851 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:43,799 Speaker 1: be as good. Steph embraces five out off ball basketball 852 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: the way he does because it makes the Warriors a 853 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 1: better team, it makes them more versatile. And then what 854 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 1: ends up happening is when push comes to shove, what 855 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:55,319 Speaker 1: does he do? He runs pick and roll? When they 856 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 1: when the Warriors pushed the Lakers to six games last year, 857 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 1: they were the lesser team and a lot of guys 858 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 1: who weren't playing as well as they did last year, 859 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 1: and so everything fell on Steph. Lakers were playing the 860 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 1: best basketball they played since they won in the Bubble, 861 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 1: and they were playing incredible defensive basketball, and the only 862 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 1: reason the Warriors had any chance to win that series 863 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 1: was Steph with the ball in his hands, barbecuing them 864 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 1: in pick and roll. I rewatched every game in that 865 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 1: series over the summer, and like it was appalling going back, 866 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 1: just how helpless the Lakers were dealing with him in 867 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 1: pick and roll. That's all point guard, bring the ball 868 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,839 Speaker 1: up the floor and make decision stuff. He can do that. 869 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,319 Speaker 1: He chooses to play in this five out system off 870 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,359 Speaker 1: ball because it makes the Warriors more versatile. If they 871 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 1: can run that thirty minutes in a playoff game and 872 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 1: he only has to spam ball screens for the other 873 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes, it gives him a better chance of holding 874 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 1: up physically, It gives him a better chance of not 875 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 1: being repetitive and easy to guard. So like, yeah, I 876 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 1: disagree vehemently with both of those opinions from Isaiah Thomas 877 00:40:56,040 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 1: from that interview. Last question in your opinion, and how 878 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,840 Speaker 1: do you think teams adjusting the playoff pressure will affect 879 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,759 Speaker 1: their play and what major teams do you think will 880 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 1: be playoff risers or chokers, whether due to game plan 881 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 1: or roster assembly. Do you think of any playoff chokers 882 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 1: that can overcome their weaknesses in an extended series. So 883 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,279 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get into specific teams and players in 884 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,359 Speaker 1: this particular part just because it's a mailbag. We will 885 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,280 Speaker 1: get into that when we get into our playoff previews 886 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 1: in early April. But the main kind of theme behind 887 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:28,759 Speaker 1: it is in my opinion, experience tends to be more 888 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,319 Speaker 1: resilient in the playoffs. Strength and the ability to hold 889 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 1: up under physicality tends to be more resilient in the playoffs. 890 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,400 Speaker 1: Teams that score a lot in the paint that's resilient 891 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. And then a diversity of shot creation. 892 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,280 Speaker 1: What that means is if your team that relies solely 893 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 1: on ball screens to run your offense, you're going to 894 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,719 Speaker 1: run into issues. Look at the Cavs last year. The 895 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 1: only way they could score was their Darius Garland and 896 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell ball screens. And when they had issues scoring 897 00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 1: out of the role, their entire offense fell apart. Right, 898 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 1: But when you have versatility, right, Like, that's the thing. 899 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 1: Like the Knicks, like Jalen Brunson just is an incredible 900 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:11,399 Speaker 1: mismatch attacking switch iso guy, right, Julius Randall in theory 901 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,319 Speaker 1: when he's healthy, can do that kind of thing, right. So, Like, 902 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,880 Speaker 1: if you have a versatility in your shot creation, if 903 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,280 Speaker 1: you have the ability to be like, hey, this isn't working, 904 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,239 Speaker 1: let's try this instead, that to me is something that 905 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,840 Speaker 1: makes a team more resilient when we get into postseason. 906 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,359 Speaker 1: We will when we get to our playoff previews, talk 907 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 1: about which teams and players I expect to play better 908 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 1: and worse when we get to that Pointge didn't want 909 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 1: to hit it in today's mail bag. All right, guys, 910 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 1: that's all we have for today. As always, a sincerely 911 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 1: appreciate you guys supporting the show. I have a scheduling conflicts, 912 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,760 Speaker 1: and we're no no longer going live after Lakers Warriors 913 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,439 Speaker 1: tomorrow night, but I will be breaking that game down 914 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 1: on Sunday morning. Uh. Probably gonna hit Nix Kings as 915 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 1: well on Sunday morning, so keep an eye on the feeds. 916 00:42:45,560 --> 00:43:19,520 Speaker 1: I will see you guys. Then the volume