1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Can you hear that there's a protest walking past my window? 2 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: We are recording this emergency episode of locot Our Radio, 3 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: and the Ice Out of La rally has just marched 4 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: by my window and it is loud, it is boisterous. 5 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 2: I'm Theosa and I'm Mala. By now you've probably heard 6 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 2: that ice raids have taken place all over Los Angeles, 7 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 2: and LA, being the city we know in love with 8 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,639 Speaker 2: the people that make La the amazing place that it is, 9 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 2: have of course fought back. I have, of course organized, 10 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 2: mobilized and are out in the streets. And this all 11 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 2: started on Friday, and Friday is our recording day, our workday. 12 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 2: We're in the studio, We're in Hollywood, and all of 13 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 2: this was happening, and we had no idea. We were 14 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 2: in our little work bubble. And I was after we 15 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 2: recorded in Hollywood. I kind of was running my little errands, 16 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 2: making my way through different parts of LA until I 17 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 2: got back to my home. And so I was in 18 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 2: Los Veli's, I was in Silver Lake until I eventually 19 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: made my way back to Southeast LA, which, if you 20 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: know anything, that takes sometimes during traffic, over an hour. 21 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 2: So I didn't get back home till like four thirty, 22 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 2: and since I was driving in in my car and 23 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 2: then working, of course with you, I was off my 24 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 2: phone most of the day. Get home, I'm checking back 25 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 2: into my digital life and like starting to see the news. 26 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: I'm starting to see the video clips. I'm starting to 27 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 2: see the first hand accounts of immigration enforcement in downtown 28 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 2: La in a in the garment district, which is a 29 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 2: working place where people were there's like factories and showrooms. 30 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 2: It's the fashion district, it's the garment district. It is 31 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 2: concentrated by Latino workers. And so it was a targeted 32 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 2: ice raid in a Latino working community. 33 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, at the exact same time, like I found out 34 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: when you found out after I finished like work, I 35 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: was doing on campus on one of the stages, and 36 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: I'm filming. 37 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 3: So you know, we're both like our attention is elsewhere. 38 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: We're not online the second we get back online, as 39 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: was my experience, the second I opened up my Instagram account, 40 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: like at I don't know, like five pm, five oh five, 41 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: when I stepped out of the stage, I saw a 42 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: post by scar the actor who like blew up on 43 00:02:54,560 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: the Chillo's Try series online. He posted this video from 44 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 1: the Fashion district off of Olympic of literally a tank, 45 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: a tank, like a military tank driving down the street 46 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: with a bunch of armed officers riding on the tank 47 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: and there's like community members civilians following. 48 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 3: They're shouting. 49 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: What I'm learning is that it's an immigration sweep. It's 50 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: ice and in the video you hear pops and bangs 51 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: and then you see smoke and they were throwing like 52 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:33,559 Speaker 1: tear gas and pepperball projectiles. 53 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 3: Is what we've learned. 54 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: They've been using on civilians, on demonstrators, on protesters, on 55 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: just people who happen to be witnessing these raids and 56 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: these sweeps. So I saw that on Friday. Now we're 57 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: like sending posts to each other because we're both in shock, 58 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: like this has been going. What's happening, Like people are 59 00:03:54,480 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: being targeted, the communities coming out. Law enforcement is attacking 60 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: literally and instigating. 61 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 3: We're learning and we're like trying. 62 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: To figure out what's going on because it happened, like 63 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: we learned about it, so suddenly I feel. 64 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 2: In some ways it was super sudden and scary, and 65 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 2: people showed up to work that day, you know. At 66 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 2: the same time, there the federal Administration and our president, 67 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 2: in particular, Donald Trump, has made it very clear that 68 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 2: LA was going to be a target for mass deportations. 69 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 2: He does not he is not in agreement with our 70 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 2: sanctuary laws, and technically speaking, LAPD is not supposed to 71 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 2: help ice and border patrol. We've seen videos where that's 72 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 2: not necessarily the case. All that to say that there 73 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 2: were immigrant rights organizations that I think have been preparing 74 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 2: for this, and one of the reasons I believe that 75 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 2: that's true is because while the raids were happening at 76 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 2: in the garment district, there were also immigrant rights activists 77 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 2: on site standing on a bed of a truck using 78 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 2: megaphones to speak to the workers who were being detained, 79 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 2: who were inside of the store, and reminding them of 80 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 2: their constitutional rights, instructing them not to sign anything, not 81 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 2: to say anything. I felt like it just felt so 82 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 2: heavy that day. Everyone. It felt like in the community 83 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 2: and in the community being like the people we share 84 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 2: space with, right, like everyone like kind of texting each 85 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 2: other or checking in like what's going on, Like are 86 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 2: you okay? How are you feeling? Because this is LA 87 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 2: is just so special, right the immigrant community make LA 88 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 2: the beautiful place that it is. And I don't mean 89 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 2: because of the labor that they give. That's not what 90 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 2: I mean. It's the culture that they bring with them, 91 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 2: the way that they have made La the place that 92 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 2: it is beyond any labor. I know that people like 93 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 2: to reduce Latino immigrants to the labor and that that's 94 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,119 Speaker 2: why they should be seen as valuable, But no, because 95 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 2: they're humans and they have every right to be in 96 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 2: this country and every right to be in a city 97 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 2: like Los Angeles, and so it's definitely been really heartbreaking 98 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 2: to see all of this play out the way that 99 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 2: it has the last couple of days. 100 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And what we're learning is they're straight up 101 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 1: snatching people off the street and people are being taken 102 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: I mean, people are being kidnapped with no warning. You know, 103 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: we'll get into this later because we're kind of going chronologically, 104 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: but what I learned today and what we continue to learn, 105 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: is that they're popping up at very unexpected and vulnerable 106 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: moments where families are together, like high school graduations and schools. 107 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 3: So it's very insidious, it's. 108 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: Very vicious and really targeting people at home and at 109 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: work and part of their daily routines. And so it's 110 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: like very sneaky. And so then so back to Friday. 111 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: Right now, back to Friday, I'm downtown. All this stuff 112 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: is going on downtown. People are being motivated to head 113 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: to the Federal Building and head to the Metro Detention Center. 114 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: So I'm seeing this and I'm walking my dog, and 115 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what, let me head over there 116 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: and see what's going on. And we got to cover 117 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: this on the show, so let me go down and 118 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: see what's happening and document and do some filming and 119 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: get a feel for what's about to happen and what's 120 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: already going on. So I walk over there, mind you, 121 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: completely unprepared. I have my dog with me, bop bos famously, 122 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: and I'm wearing like platform leopard print shunk glass and like, 123 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: I don't remember if I was wearing a bra that day, 124 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: but I'm like not prepared. 125 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 2: I literally texted Mala because she says, I'm walking over 126 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 2: and I was like, did you change your shoes? That 127 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 2: was literally the first thing I thought of, because I 128 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 2: knew what you were wearing that day. 129 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 3: Yes. 130 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 2: I was like, if you know, you never know and 131 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 2: say if you need to run, are you wearing sneakers 132 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 2: or are you wearing your little platforms? And you were 133 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 2: wearing your little platform. 134 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: Little platforms, because it was very like I had just 135 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: you know, I was on the bus home when I 136 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: saw news. 137 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 3: Get home. 138 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: I have to walk the dog and okay, one thing 139 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: leads to the next. I'm already out here, let me go, 140 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: So I. 141 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 3: Head over there. 142 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: There was a smallish crowd, you know, less than one 143 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: hundred in front of the Federal Building. 144 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 3: Signs. 145 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: I said, of LA, don't separate families. There's Mexican flags, 146 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: Palestinian flags, and things are calm. There's cars honking as 147 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 1: they drive by, honking in solidarity. And I noticed that 148 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: across the street from the Federal Building, all up and 149 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:55,599 Speaker 1: down Aliso for several blocks, the highway patrol is blocking 150 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 1: all of the freeway entrances on both sides, as they 151 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: tend to do when people gather and demonstrate, presumably to 152 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: stop them from taking the protest onto the freeway, and 153 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: also because when the highway patrol blocks freeway entrances in 154 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: a major artery of the city at rush hour, basically 155 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: it also causes a lot of chaos and confusion and disruption. 156 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 1: So things were not in the street, but the law 157 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 1: enforcement preemptively blocked all of those entrances and exits. So 158 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: then I walk around from the detention center from the 159 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: federal building around the corner to the detention center on Alameda, 160 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: A crowd is gathering. There's probably there a couple hundred 161 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: people right away. 162 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 3: There's smoke. 163 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: I see smoke, and I'm not there for very long 164 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,319 Speaker 1: because an older woman passes by me and says, get 165 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: your baby out of here. They have tear gas. I 166 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: see the tear gas and she's like telling me to 167 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: get out of there. I'm leaving, you know, and I'm 168 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: not prepared for this, and my poor dog cannot consent 169 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 1: to being guess, you know, poor guy. So I notice 170 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: also the LAPD blocking Alameda across all lanes, like a 171 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: block away from Munion Station, major transportation center of the city. 172 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: So as I'm leaving, people are arriving and people are 173 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: running towards the crowd to I see people with coolers. Definitely, 174 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: people are going to help. There are people with food, 175 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: giving out boxes, a little Caesars and feeding people. Definitely 176 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: in the coolers, I'm sure there was water and milk, 177 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: and because they know that in moments like this, when 178 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: the community comes out to protest a grave injustice, they 179 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: respond with suppression and violence. 180 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 3: They being the police state. 181 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 1: So I see that the people are mobilizing, and they're prepared, 182 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: and they're masked up, and I think folks were ready 183 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: for a bad night, but not because they were planning 184 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: to create a bad night as protesters, but because they 185 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: knew that law enforcement was going to give them a 186 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: really bad time, and they did. It's gotten very aggressive, 187 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: very violent over this past weekend. 188 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 2: Don't go anywhere, locomotives. 189 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: We'll be right back, and we're back with more of 190 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:15,479 Speaker 1: our episode. 191 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 2: On Saturday, Border Patrol agents were spotted across the street 192 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 2: from a home depot, gathering like around nine am. And quickly, 193 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 2: I like on the neighborhood apps that I'm on, I 194 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 2: started seeing because Paramount is local to very extremely local 195 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 2: to me, I started seeing like ices at the home 196 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 2: depot in Paramount. I saw different surrounding cities that ice 197 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 2: was being spotted, and some of them were really hard 198 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:46,079 Speaker 2: to verify, I will say, but the one in Paramount 199 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 2: was actually true. There were Border Patrol agents across the street. 200 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 2: They actually hadn't rated the home depot. As we know, 201 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 2: there are day laborers. They gather at Home Depot looking 202 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 2: for work at multiple both locations across the country. This 203 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 2: is just a place where folks look for work. And 204 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 2: Home Depot was never actually raided, but just the presence 205 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 2: of border patrol caused a lot of anxiety and it 206 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 2: caused people to mobilize and get to Paramount in droves, 207 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 2: whether that be residents of Paramount or the surrounding community. 208 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 2: And things quickly escalated, as we know, and I think 209 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 2: because of the way things escalated, that is one of 210 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 2: the reasons that our President Trump deployed nearly two thousand 211 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 2: National guardsmen to Los Angeles, and it's actually one of 212 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 2: the first time since nineteen sixty five that a president 213 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 2: has deployed the state's National Guard without the request from 214 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 2: the state's governor, our governor being Gavin Newsom, who swiftly 215 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 2: was like, that's not necessary, do not do that. Mayor 216 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 2: Bass said the same thing. We know already from experience 217 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 2: that agents of the state always escalate protests and it 218 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 2: always leads to violence. And so this is I think 219 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 2: another example from trickling from Paramount to Compton and then 220 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 2: to back to the heart of LA. 221 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: And this coverage is everywhere. So the good thing about 222 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: the amount of recording that goes on at demonstrations because 223 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: everybody has their phone out right, and what we have 224 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: is everyone from La Times, La Taco, Ktla Telemundo, and 225 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: then everyone with an Instagram account documenting what's going on. 226 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: So you're seeing the demonstration and the state violence from 227 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: all angles. And it's just very clear and very obvious 228 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: that ICE and our local law enforcement are instigating by 229 00:13:55,640 --> 00:14:00,040 Speaker 1: attacking first unarmed people, unarmed civilian in some case, this 230 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: is just people witnessing what's going on. 231 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was reading a report in the La 232 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 2: Times by two journalists who were at and I'll link 233 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 2: this report in the show notes, but there I was 234 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 2: reading an account by both of them who were on 235 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 2: the ground in Paramount, and there were protesters that were 236 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 2: simply there. Sure it was loud, but there was no 237 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 2: physical violence. Sure people were chanting, Sure people were making noise, 238 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 2: but there was no actual physical violence against said police 239 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 2: officers or Border patrol agents. And yet there was still 240 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 2: tear gas being used. And so a protester said, like, 241 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 2: you can't handle noise, We're not doing anything. You can't 242 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 2: even handle the sound of protests, like you know, this 243 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 2: is not the protester but me saying like, well, how 244 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 2: fragile are you? You can't even handle people chanting that 245 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 2: you have to use tear gas against civilians. 246 00:14:54,800 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just so clearly it's a eight sanctioned attack US, 247 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: like using military and armed forces. 248 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 2: I do want to add something, and I don't want 249 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 2: to dive too into this, but I do want to 250 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 2: add that this past Saturday, while there was protests happening 251 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 2: in the city of La surrounding municipalities surrounding cities, there 252 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 2: was also a really big run in Inglewood and I 253 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 2: participated in it, and it was the Nike After Dark Tour. 254 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 2: It was billed as like this women's race. But while 255 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 2: I'm driving to Inglewood with my group of friends who 256 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 2: were all running together, we start to get notifications that 257 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 2: there is immigration and customs enforcement in Inglewood, and so 258 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 2: it felt very dystopian that there was city resources event 259 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 2: organizers police making the streets like safe for runners, you know, 260 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 2: to run on the street, while at the same time, 261 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 2: in another pocket of Englewood, people were being detained by ice, 262 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 2: And so I would be remiss not to bring that 263 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:13,359 Speaker 2: up because it felt very dystopian. It felt very uncomfortable. 264 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 2: I was running with a couple of women who are immigrants, 265 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 2: who are undocumented as well, and who were kind of like, 266 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 2: do I sit this out. I've been training for months, 267 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 2: you know, this is really important to me, but also 268 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 2: my anxiety, but also I want to be in community, 269 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 2: and so they were holding like all these truths at 270 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 2: the same time. And so I did see like a 271 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 2: lot of I saw a lot of Mexican flags, Guatemalan 272 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 2: flags throughout the run, like either supporters that were like 273 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 2: holding them. I saw a lot of fuck ice signs, 274 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 2: and I myself was wearing something which is. 275 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: Not really me. 276 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 2: I don't really do that during runs, but it just 277 00:16:56,320 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 2: felt like a very tiny thing to do to just 278 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 2: show like, I'm aware that this is happening right now 279 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 2: and this is fucked up, and I just wanted to 280 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 2: share that briefly because running has been such a beautiful 281 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 2: thing for me, and this was the first race where 282 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 2: it felt really fucking weird that there were so many 283 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 2: resources being used to keep us safe while at the 284 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 2: same time, like LA and the surrounding community like was 285 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 2: in shambles and people were afraid and families are being 286 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 2: torn apart, and so yeah, I just want to share 287 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 2: that because I know that I'm not the only runner 288 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 2: who was feeling that this past weekend, and the violence 289 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 2: continued into to Sunday and into to Monday present day 290 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 2: when we're recording, don't go anywhere, look amotives. 291 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: I'll be right back. 292 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 3: We're back with more. We hope you didn't go anywhere. 293 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:57,360 Speaker 1: I think something important is that the resources and the power, 294 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: the evil behind what's going on is so they're gonna 295 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: go at it. 296 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 3: They're here for a month. I don't think. 297 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: One event or the other is going to stop or 298 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: deter them from what they're after, which is snatching people up. 299 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 1: And so I sort of feel that because there's been 300 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: some like I saw some I think misplaced criticism of 301 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 1: like the Nike after Dark run on TikTok, because we're 302 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:34,199 Speaker 1: now we're like scrolling and looking at what's going on 303 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: because we want to be we want to be up 304 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: to date now with what's happening, and the most up 305 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: to date news is honestly just is coming from social 306 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: media because it's regular people who are there on the 307 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: ground witnessing, posting in real time. If we can't wait 308 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: to for the La Times to put something out or 309 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: you know, for the five o'clock news to know what's 310 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 1: going on. Like we're online and so part of being online. 311 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 1: I saw some like criticism of the Nike After Dark run, 312 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: and I'm like, this is not where our energy needs 313 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:05,360 Speaker 1: to be right now. They are relentless and very powerful. 314 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: This is military force. Like, let's be realistic about where 315 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 1: we need to be angry. 316 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 2: I saw some of those two and it definitely feels 317 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 2: like a distraction. And I get it. A lot of 318 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 2: us are so angry and we're stressed. And I will say, like, 319 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 2: for someone like me, right that like made like a 320 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 2: little sign. I'm fucking realistic. My little sign is not 321 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 2: going to change the world, but I think what it 322 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 2: can do is make you know, other runners feel like 323 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 2: they're safe here. What I challenge us to say is okay, 324 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 2: and then what you're gonna do your sign? You're gonna 325 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 2: show your like active protests at this event, whatever event 326 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 2: it may be. What are you going to do next? 327 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 2: How are you gonna mobilize your own little circle? And 328 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 2: so I want to challenge us to challenge us as 329 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 2: a community to like, instead of being very nitpicky about 330 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 2: what we are or aren't doing, like challenge each other 331 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 2: to do more and whatever that more looks like for 332 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 2: each person, which I think is something you and I 333 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 2: have been do discussing internally. Is like some of us 334 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 2: can't actually be out at a protest. If you're not 335 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 2: out at a protest, what else are you doing? And 336 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 2: I think that that's something we have to remember that 337 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 2: not everyone can actually be at a protest. 338 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: I think that there's a lot of ways to help 339 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: right now. It's first and foremost imperative to check in 340 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: with your community and your family and your friends to 341 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 1: see how you can help personally one on one with needs, Like, 342 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: for example, if you know someone who needs the right 343 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 1: to work because of their status, can you offer that 344 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: to them? This is something that we've heard of as 345 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: an immediate need actually. 346 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 2: Or even going to the grocery store, running errands, picking 347 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 2: up children from school. I think that if you are 348 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 2: a citizen, like that is one way to leverage and 349 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 2: help people live their daily lives in this immediate way 350 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 2: where like, yeah, kids have kids who are going to 351 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 2: school or maybe daycare, right, but there are tangible ways 352 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 2: that you can help either your neighbor, a community member, 353 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 2: your own family, your own friends. Approachests are important, but 354 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 2: there's also other ways that we can be helpful. 355 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a need to prevent ice from getting their 356 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 1: hands on community members first and foremost. The protest is 357 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: a response once community members have been snatched up and 358 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 1: detained and kidnapped. That's when people are mobilizing on the 359 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: street level. But how can we prevent it with what 360 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: resources we have? I think that's a question. And can 361 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: you hear that there's a protest walking past my window? 362 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: We are recording this emergency episode of Look at our Radio, 363 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: and the ice out of La Rally has just marched 364 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: by my window, and it is loud, it is boisterous. 365 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: I think it's a lot of the same people who 366 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: were at Laplacital Vera, which is where I left the demonstration, 367 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 1: and they're out here and they're heading to Pershing Square. 368 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be loud tonight. I think 369 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a long night. There's a lot of 370 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 1: law enforcement, highway patrol ice for army looking motherfuckers out there, 371 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: you know, like they are out there and they were 372 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: set up this morning, like as of this afternoon, it 373 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: was like two pm. Maybe the LAPD headquarters completely barricaded 374 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: officers and their vehicles on the sidewalk lined up in 375 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: front of the LAPD station. I hope things calm down, 376 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 1: but everything we're seeing as of today. Also during today's 377 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:59,959 Speaker 1: rally at Grand Park, the demonstration stopped for a moment, channing, channing, 378 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 1: you know, free David wuerta ice oid of LA, all 379 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: the usual other protest chants that we hear. And there's 380 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: a woman walking around showing us a news article on 381 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: her phone that the Marines. 382 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 3: Have been deployed to LA, so stay safe. 383 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: And we already know national Guard has been two thousand 384 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 1: National Guard have been deployed to Los Angeles as well, 385 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: So LA is heavily militarized right now. 386 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 2: As a Monday evening. According to LA Times, this is 387 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 2: a direct quote. In light of increased threats against federal 388 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 2: officers and federal buildings, five hundred active duty US Marines 389 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 2: from Camp Peddleton will be deployed to Los Angeles to 390 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 2: help protect federal agents and buildings. Not civilians, not protesters, 391 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 2: but the fucking buildings and the federal agents. Mind you, 392 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 2: if you've been on social media, if you've been watching 393 00:23:53,960 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 2: the news. How many of those ICE agents LAPD are Latinos? 394 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 3: A lot of them. 395 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 2: Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. 396 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 1: A lot of them, a lot of them. And we've 397 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: known this, we've talked about this on the podcast before. Yes, 398 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: so many members of our Latino community are so vocal, 399 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: so critical of Oh, this influencer isn't posting, Why isn't 400 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: this influencer speaking, or they don't like they don't like 401 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: the way you talk, or whatever, hyper critical horizontally within 402 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: the community, to peers to people they don't even know. Meanwhile, 403 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: how many of them have family members? How many of 404 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 1: us in our communities as Latinos, as Southern California Latinos 405 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: have family members who are active duty ICE, LAPD, sheriffs, 406 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: so on and so forth. A lot Are you doing 407 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: the work at your kitchen table? Are you doing the 408 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 1: work in your own family? Are you doing the work 409 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 1: when you have an agent of state violence at Christmas 410 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: and at Thanksgiving? You know, like, come on, this is 411 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 1: I want to focus our attention. And we get so 412 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 1: picky with each other and what like we're not we're 413 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: really not in solidarity like that, And it's because so 414 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: many members of our community do have actually these direct 415 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: ties to these oppressive agencies. So how can they be 416 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: in solidarity? How can we be in solidarity? Loyalties are 417 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 1: extremely split. And this is not oh usc UCLA, no, no, 418 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: no, no no. This is state violence and the citizenry and 419 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 1: not citizenry, just the community, just the people, human beings, just. 420 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 3: Living, working, you know. So I don't know how we're 421 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 3: going to overcome this. I believe that we can. 422 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: But you're right, A lot of a lot of the 423 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 1: oppressive agents of the state out here, to your guys 424 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 1: and people, are Latinos. 425 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and I think it just to drive 426 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 2: home this conversation, right, it's like, in the same breath 427 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 2: of Latinos that are like agents of the state, you 428 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,959 Speaker 2: also have the groups of Latinos their trumpers or not, 429 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,199 Speaker 2: but that buy into this rhetoric of quote doing it 430 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 2: the right way. Oh, Maya Wilito did it the right way. 431 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 2: Maya Walita did it the right way. Why do people 432 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 2: wait so long to get their papers? Why do they 433 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 2: wait so long as if it's this really easy cheap process, Right, 434 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 2: there was a time where maybe it was easier to 435 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 2: apply for residency. We know that during the Amnesty Act. 436 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 2: We know that during the Brasseto program there were some pathways. 437 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 2: We know that it was at one point easier to 438 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 2: petition to bring your family over. Yes, those things are true, 439 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 2: but the policies that were in place then are not 440 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 2: the policies that are in place now and have not 441 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 2: been in place for decades actually, So I also want 442 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 2: us to squash that when we hear that in our 443 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 2: families of oh, well, our grandpa did it the right way, 444 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 2: because so many of us are born here by chance. 445 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 2: I think about that all the time. You know, my 446 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 2: father almost went to Brazil, he almost went to Venezuela, 447 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 2: he almost went to Australia, but by chance ended up 448 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 2: here in the US. I think about that for my 449 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 2: grandfather too. You know, he was going back and forth 450 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 2: from Chihuahua to Texas and ended up in Pasadena, You 451 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 2: know what I mean. And so so many of these 452 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 2: things are by chance. And depending on the decade your 453 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 2: family immigrated here, things may have been easier for them, 454 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 2: but that does not mean that they were not exposed 455 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 2: to discrimination, to racism, to xenophobia. Just because there was 456 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 2: some pathway of legal citizenship for them does not mean 457 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 2: that there was no struggle for them, and so I 458 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 2: think I want us to also remember that that just 459 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 2: because there was some quote legality for them, then that 460 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 2: does not mean that they were free from suffering. How 461 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 2: many of those same people were also like told to 462 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 2: not speak Spanish. 463 00:27:58,320 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: You know. 464 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 2: It's like all kind in that way. And I think 465 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 2: that going back to like calling out the influencers or 466 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 2: calling out the people on social media for not doing 467 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 2: something the right way, like call out your deal that 468 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 2: says we did it the right way, So why can't they? 469 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:21,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, and there are so there's a plenty of Latino 470 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,640 Speaker 1: Trump supporters out there who voted for this very thing. 471 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: They voted for this, This was the platform, this was 472 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 1: the promise, this is what they asked for. You know, 473 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: do the internal work. That's where you have the most impact, 474 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: and that's where it's most needed. We can't reach those 475 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: family members. 476 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean. And also, you know, just broadly speaking 477 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 2: or on a more national level, right, the co founder 478 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 2: of LATINUS for Trump, Ileana Garcia, is now criticizing Donald 479 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 2: Trump and calling these immigration enforcement actions unacceptable. I'm like, 480 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 2: is this not your king? 481 00:28:58,720 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: Is this not what you voted for? 482 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 2: You Latino for Trump, Like Donald Trump has showed us 483 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 2: who he is, and not only him, but the people 484 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 2: that he has put in his cabinet and the people 485 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 2: that continue to vote for him. So to believe that 486 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 2: he was gonna do something differently, that's on you, because 487 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 2: he has shown us time and time again who he 488 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 2: is and what he believes and the policy that he 489 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 2: is gonna enforce in this country. 490 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: These were his campaign promises. This is what he ran on, 491 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: this is what he said he would do. I don't 492 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: understand the cognitive dissonance of the surprise. It's so bizarre 493 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: and it's really cowardly. Also, don't have surprise now now 494 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: that you see the horror of what you wanted. This 495 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: is what you wanted, and it's horrible. You know, face what, 496 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: face it, face it. I think sometimes too, with the 497 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: pressure on the influencers, it's like, don't don't like as 498 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: a as a fan or a follower, And I am 499 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: a fan and a follower of plenty of people, like 500 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: I'm just as much of your. 501 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 3: As any as anybody else, Right, you like, don't like. 502 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: Demand that Hajesu's nalgas who has posted by the way, 503 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 1: but I saw these like video edits of like basically 504 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: accusing Haysus naldav like hating the community and not caring 505 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: and being mindless and not talking about what's going on. 506 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: But it's like, if you're a fan of the content, 507 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: just be a fan of the content. You don't have 508 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: to validate your follow by like forcing artists to take 509 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: political stands, where like just just enjoy the content. You 510 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: don't have to like, oh, well, I'm going to make 511 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: myself feel better for consuming this content because now my 512 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: favorite influencer is posting about social unrest. 513 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 3: But like it's so misplaced. 514 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: And I also want to say that it's very important 515 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: for us to remember that not everybody who is being 516 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: targeted is from Mexico. And I'm not here to like 517 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: criticize protesters, but I see so many Mexican flags, and 518 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: it's like almost like attension seeking sometimes, like when we 519 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: make it such a blatant like this is like almost 520 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 1: like branding. And I'm sure plenty are from Mexico, but 521 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: not all of them are, and a lot are not, 522 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: a lot are not. And this is a bigger issue 523 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: than a particular nationality or ethnic group. Let's remember that 524 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: there are a lot of Haitian immigrants, that there are 525 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: a lot of Asian immigrants. There are immigrants from all 526 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: over the world who come to Los Angeles and work 527 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: in factories and who are being targeted, who live in 528 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: places like Compton, what have you, who could be downtown LA. Like, 529 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: it's important that we keep that in mind as well. 530 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: Now is are a lot of Latinos in general being targeted. 531 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: It does seem to be the case. 532 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I'm glad you brought that up, because I agree. 533 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 2: The Mexican flags have been kind of synonymous with like 534 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 2: protests in LA, and I don't know if it's always helpful. 535 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 2: I see the energy and I respect it and I 536 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 2: get it, but I do agree it. The dominant narrative 537 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 2: right of who's in LA is that it's a Mexican community, 538 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 2: and that is true, but there are also other immigrants. 539 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 2: I do want to go back to what you said 540 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 2: about the influencers, just to further complicate it. Two things 541 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 2: that I feel is one unfollow unfollow. On the other hand, 542 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 2: I also see, like, yeah, there are Latinos who are 543 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 2: profiting off of the community because we allow them to, 544 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 2: because we follow them, we support them, we use their 545 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 2: affiliate links, whatever it may be, right, However, we're giving 546 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 2: them views, and so when they are profiting off of 547 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 2: the community by making Latini Dad their whole personality or 548 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 2: their online persona, I do hear them and see the 549 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 2: frustration when they're not walking the talk. 550 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 3: Right. 551 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 2: They're all for the Latino community, for the clicks and 552 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 2: the views, but when it comes to the actual issues, 553 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 2: they're silent. So I do hear it, and I see it, 554 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 2: and I understand the frustration. But I do think our 555 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 2: energy will be better spent with people we actually know, 556 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 2: as opposed to folks who can block, delete, move on 557 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 2: and still get their brand deals. 558 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: And and you know, of course we post our coverage, 559 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: we post content. If something's going on in the world, 560 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about it, We're going to post 561 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 1: about it. But it's a fine line between like coverage 562 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: and creating content for entertainment and profit is the other thing. 563 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: And there are people who practically brand themselves as like 564 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: professional protesters. Yes, and lots of viral content, lots of engagement, but. 565 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 3: It's not now. 566 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: It's not for spreading the word. It's not for education, 567 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: it's not for information, it's not for mobilization. It's not 568 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 1: for documentation, it's it's for engagement, it's for views. It 569 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: becomes the content and content and reporting or art are 570 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 1: quite often different things. Content is just stuff, right, and 571 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 1: so I also I also with I feel like it's 572 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 1: a very fine line between yes, you want the people 573 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 1: that you follow and give your dollars to to share 574 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 1: your ethics and your politics and to give a shit. 575 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 1: At the same time, it's like, why are you pressing 576 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 1: this content creator to make content on human rights violations? 577 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 3: Where is it going? Is? 578 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,879 Speaker 1: Are you sure they're going to donate to a huge 579 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: to an immigrant rights organization? 580 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:52,360 Speaker 3: If not, then. 581 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,399 Speaker 1: Where you make a donation where you want to see 582 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 1: money going? You know? So I want to throw that 583 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: in there too. People can almost make brand and names 584 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: for themselves at constantly protests and rallies and content creation. 585 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 1: So we will post, we'll do some coverage, we'll do 586 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: a recap, but we're not branding ourselves is as professional protesters. 587 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: That's also something we must be weary of. I have 588 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 1: to get off the internet inform you, but you've got 589 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:23,800 Speaker 1: to move offline. Yes, a lot of people have been detained, 590 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 1: more people will be detained. What people need are lawyers. 591 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 1: People need lawyers, Like, I mean, what else, what else 592 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 1: when you've been unlawfully detained with no charges and you 593 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 1: hope that they let you talk to a judge. You 594 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: need a lawyer in a situation like this. And they 595 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 1: and people who have been detained do have the right 596 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: to an attorney even in these immigration rates and immigration sweeps, 597 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 1: or at least they should. And I hope that the 598 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 1: courts keeping up. 599 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that's been the scariest thing of 600 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 2: this wave of raids, uh since Trump has been in 601 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,320 Speaker 2: office the second time, is the lack of due process, 602 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:16,760 Speaker 2: and so that that is why the getting getting involved 603 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 2: right before people get detained, right going to the protest, 604 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 2: distributing the know your Rights cards. I called my dad 605 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 2: the other day. My dad is a citizen, but as 606 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 2: is known the ende like, if you're talking to him 607 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 2: in English, my dad speaks English, but as is like 608 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,839 Speaker 2: it takes him a little longer. And so and he 609 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 2: works in it works in a predominantly Latino neighborhood. And 610 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 2: so I called him and I was like, hey, like, 611 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 2: you know your your you know your rights right, because 612 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 2: you think it's basic right, Like you're you I would 613 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 2: think that my dad would know, but I was like, 614 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 2: I actually don't know if my dad knows, and so 615 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 2: I called him and we had this conversation and I 616 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 2: was like, I'm just I'm just kind of afraid, Like 617 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 2: if we're they're racially profiling people, they're not giving people 618 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 2: due process. My dad could fit the bill if they 619 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 2: wanted to do. He has an accent, So you know, 620 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,839 Speaker 2: I called in him and had that conversation because I 621 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,360 Speaker 2: was like, I don't know if I'm being paranoid, but 622 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 2: I also would feel better if I just had this 623 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 2: conversation with you. GIMMEQUESTA took me five minutes, and so 624 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,720 Speaker 2: I think even checking in on your family in that way, 625 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 2: you know, because what this administration show is that they 626 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 2: don't care about due process and they are racially profiling people. 627 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 1: No, they're yeah, they're they're not even they're not like 628 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:33,320 Speaker 1: checking your papers. They're just snatching people up. They're disappearing people. 629 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,840 Speaker 1: This is what we're dealing with right now, and this 630 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 1: is why people are responding the way that they are, 631 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 1: you know, in the streets and in the city and 632 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 1: in rallies, and that I think it is important. The 633 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,360 Speaker 1: point you brought up earlier, like what is the goal 634 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 1: of the rally? What are we doing with the rally? 635 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 1: People are going to come out because they're angry, they're scared, 636 00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 1: they got to do something. Other times people are coming 637 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 1: out because someone like the SEIU is asking people to 638 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:08,280 Speaker 1: come out to ask demand the release of David Weddeta, 639 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,240 Speaker 1: who now at this point, at the time of this recording, 640 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 1: he has been released from custody, and hopefully we see 641 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:22,359 Speaker 1: more people released from custody. But it seems like at 642 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 1: the detention centers they are illegally denying entry to elected 643 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,839 Speaker 1: officials like Maxine Waters. Though, going back to the lack 644 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 1: of due process, it looks like in this whole rule 645 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 1: of law charade, there is apps, there's no law. There's 646 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,320 Speaker 1: it's complete lawlessness. 647 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, and I think just to tie it 648 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 2: back to like the broader picture, right, is that the 649 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 2: one of the reasons that President Trump deployed the National 650 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:59,359 Speaker 2: Guard or sent the National Guard to Los Angeles is 651 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 2: where like a test we're like a testing ground right now, 652 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 2: Like this is what happens when you protest, This is 653 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,799 Speaker 2: what happens when you're a sanctuary city, This is what 654 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 2: happens when you protect immigrants and you quote let them 655 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:16,280 Speaker 2: do whatever they want. This is hown. Your own government 656 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,400 Speaker 2: is going to respond to you. And so they're showing us, 657 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 2: not just Angelino's but the rest of the country. This 658 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,879 Speaker 2: is what happens when you protest. This is how we're 659 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 2: going to respond. And it's meant to scare you. It's 660 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,360 Speaker 2: meant to stop you from protesting. It's meant to feel chaotic, 661 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,359 Speaker 2: it's meant to feel disruptive because it is. And that's 662 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 2: the goal. That's the that's the whole point. 663 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 1: And on that note, I think it's time for us 664 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:45,319 Speaker 1: to talk about instead of being scared, how can we 665 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:51,279 Speaker 1: be motivated to act and to support and what can 666 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 1: we do? What steps can we take. We've talked about 667 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 1: taking steps. We have some resources and some suggestions for you. 668 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: Of course, there's a lot out there, so make sure 669 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 1: that you're doing your research and vetting and putting your 670 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,239 Speaker 1: support in your money or your time behind the right 671 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,880 Speaker 1: places with the most impact. 672 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,239 Speaker 2: So one way you can support detained immigrants is by 673 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 2: donating to Detained Immigrants Fund at Clue Justice dot org 674 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:22,279 Speaker 2: slash bond. You can also gather with your homegirls, your 675 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,840 Speaker 2: family members, your primas print out some know your Rights cards, 676 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 2: distribute them. They're literally little squares of paper, Cut them 677 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,520 Speaker 2: out together, distribute them to your neighbors, your family members, 678 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:37,719 Speaker 2: to anyone who may need it. I think just reminding 679 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 2: people what their rights are because in a panic, people 680 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 2: forget and having that little card can actually be super 681 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 2: helpful to you. 682 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 1: There's also ways to join a rapid response network in 683 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 1: your area. If you are in LA, you can call 684 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 1: eight eight eight six two four four seven five two 685 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 1: to report ICE activity. And there are a whole host 686 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:08,400 Speaker 1: of immigrant legitimate, longstanding community based immigrant rights organizations that 687 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 1: you can support, like chiir La carresen Ordla Long Beach 688 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 1: and end ALON, the National Day Labors Organizing Network. And 689 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 1: make sure you connect with your friends, your family, your 690 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 1: community members and check on each other. Thank you for 691 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 1: listening to today's episode of look at Our Radio. We 692 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 1: hope that this ends soon, but if not, we of 693 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 1: course will continue to cover and to share resources when 694 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 1: and how we can. 695 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,719 Speaker 2: Thank you for listening. Locomotives, take care of each other, 696 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 2: check in on each other, and we'll catch you next time. 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