1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,559 Speaker 1: Ron An Anian Volkswagons in trouble again, Well not really again, 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: it's still continuing said it's tire. We do want to 3 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 1: make him didn't sparing it in the trunk in a 4 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: case to tire malfunction. That carr doctor. If Volkswagen at 5 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 1: the car comes in for an emissions test and we 6 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 1: test the emissions through the O B D two port, 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: however we're going to do it, how will we know 8 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: if the car is fixed because of the cards been 9 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: put in test mode? How how will you know? Welcome 10 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: to the radio home of ron and Anian the Car Doctor, 11 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: since this is where car owners the world overturned to 12 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics 13 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: giving you a busy signal, pick up the phone and 14 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,919 Speaker 1: call in. The garage doors are open, but I am 15 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: here to take your calls at eight five six and 16 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: now he running, Hey, come on in, sit down, run 17 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: any in. The car Doctor at your service at eight 18 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: five five six zero nine nine zero zero. The car 19 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: Doctor is always ready stand by. Gotta go to a 20 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: phone number eight five five five zero nine nine zero zero. 21 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: That's where I am at, and I am that that 22 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: here loud now live Saturdays two to four Eastern Time. 23 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: Like Tom Ray says, my mouth is always important if 24 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: it actually works and says something, but zo N zero number, 25 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: which is what I'm sort of stumbling along trying to 26 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: explain to you as I welcome you here today this hour, 27 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: that that number is there. 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Oh my gosh, what a surprise. 45 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: You know what, I'm here to fix your car. It's 46 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 1: not that big a deal. I just happen to be 47 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,839 Speaker 1: lucky enough to be a mechanic that somehow got onto 48 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: radio to talk to you about it. And that's all. 49 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: This radio show is really about solving your car problem. 50 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: So that's why I always say zero nine zero zero 51 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: is the place to be if you want to get 52 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: your problem solved. Other people want to get their problem solved. 53 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: And I've I've learned that over the time, um repeat 54 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: performers at the shop, repeat customers have come back. And 55 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 1: I say performers, because it seems that some of these 56 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: cars just want to be discussed. I think the cars 57 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 1: are as as as big a him as I am. 58 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: Sometimes two thousand one Chevy Lumina Ken Ken's a good customer, 59 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 1: good guy too. I I know him on a bit 60 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: of a personal basis and I enjoyed conversation with him. 61 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: He brought me his daughters. He's driving it. She's driving 62 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: a two thousand one Chevy Luminou with just under two 63 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: thousand miles on it. Well, actually it has more than 64 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: two ten. Now for the reasons I'm about to tell you. 65 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: It came in in January. Initially, it had a slew 66 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 1: of code. Some of them read grs, some of them 67 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: were transmission, some of them were secondary air pump, and 68 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: just too many to count, roughly seven if memory serves 69 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: me correct, and I narrowed down the faults and eliminated 70 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: the possibilities, fixed the hardcore ones because we're just trying to, 71 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: you know, get it through to the next point where 72 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: we have to get it through and so on. You 73 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: don't want to put a pile into it, but you 74 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: want to keep it safe and you want to keep 75 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: it reliable because, as Ken and I talked about, we 76 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: think the and I do I know Ken does that 77 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: the the older cars, if you get a good one, 78 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: they're worth hanging onto because the newer cars aren't really 79 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: that much better. It's difficult problems, different types of problems, 80 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: more electronic problems, and there's still a pile of money. 81 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: So repairing that car really becomes sometimes and usually the 82 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: best option. It came in this week with a P 83 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: fourteen O four and a P zero one five. The 84 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: one thirty five fault was for the upstream or the 85 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: pre catalytic converter O two censor insufficient activity. The onboard 86 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 1: computer didn't see fast enough response time. It wants to 87 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 1: see that O two online within twenty nine seconds and 88 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 1: moving up and down high low voltage, and it didn't, 89 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: so it flagged the P zero one thirty five. The 90 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: descriptions a little deceiving because the description describes what could 91 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: just be a heat or fault, and it may it 92 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: may not be. It's really activity, but it's blaming the 93 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: heater trying to warm it up. The fourteen O four 94 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: is e g R circuit. Now I had put a 95 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: brand new a c Delco e g R valve on 96 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: it back in January. Course new doesn't mean good, and 97 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 1: at that time I replaced the valve clear the fault code, 98 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: drove the car of the car ran mine let it go. 99 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: So am I faced with a repeat problem and something different, 100 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: or in my face, with two completely different issues. Sometimes 101 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,679 Speaker 1: you don't know. The one thirty five was the first 102 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: one I tackled. That was easy enough. Walked it through 103 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: on a scan tool, looked at a two censor activity, 104 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: shot a little propane. It was alive, but I could 105 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 1: see that it didn't meet that thirty second window of activity. 106 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: It was sitting there and it probably took the better 107 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: part of forty five almost forty eight seconds for that 108 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: censor to really do what it's supposed to do. You 109 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: know what, time to put it on a two centsor 110 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 1: and it's not hitting its peaks. It's not doing what 111 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 1: it really needs to do well. I gotta tell you, 112 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: Taking an oxygen sensor out of a sixteen year old 113 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 1: Chevy Luminent that's lived in the Northeast all its life 114 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: not a lot of fun. I don't think General Motors 115 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 1: really had replacement in mind when the design the car. 116 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: How to take the two motor mounts out up front, 117 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: the two dog bones, rock the motor forward and put 118 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: a two by four between the back of the motor 119 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: and the firewall, just to keep it in position long 120 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: enough that I could finally soak and heat and work 121 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: free d O two and get it out. Of course, 122 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: then I had a tap, and we're gonna tap through 123 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: the manifold threads and clean it up and get the 124 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: new censor and straightforward enough. The fourteen O four was interesting. 125 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: The e g R foul the fourteen O four said 126 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: that it was being a reported error message for the 127 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: e g R position, and it measures it in percentage 128 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: from zero on up. This e g R valves was reporting, 129 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 1: so it saw a error value. But after some more 130 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 1: research and digging, because it seems like you're always digging, 131 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: you're always you're always looking for more research to solve 132 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: a problem, regardless of how long ago you worked on it. 133 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,679 Speaker 1: This was just three or four months ago. I didn't 134 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: see it then, didn't find it then, but found a 135 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 1: bulletin that talks specifically about a fourteen oh four being 136 00:06:55,760 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: the result of improper software calibration in the PCM. In 137 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: other words, a sixteen year old car still needed to 138 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: have a software update. That's how important software and flash 139 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: files are and will be going forward. We're fixing a 140 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: sixteen year old car with software. The other side of 141 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: the e g R problem with that particular alumina was 142 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: that it needed an e g R valve connector the 143 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: black wire pin B second one in the top, second 144 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: one in the middle, actually didn't have a good solid 145 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: ground a good solid connection, i should say. And it's 146 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: important to note that improper connection at that ground leg 147 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: which is controlled by the PC and will produce improper results. 148 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: Bottom line, Yeah, the car is fixed. What fixed it? Well? 149 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: The e g R connector and the reef flesh seems 150 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: to take care of the e g R and the 151 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: O two fixed the O two. But I told you 152 00:07:56,040 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: that story to show you and demonstrate this one. Two 153 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: thousand seven Chevy Trailblazer came into the shop this week. 154 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: Also solve that car is particular problem. Oil change and 155 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: some ignition work put it out front. Customers showed up, 156 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: and of course it had to be my kid's sister, 157 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: because nothing says love like your family when they come 158 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: to pick up their car. And Diane's a good sport. 159 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: I should I should, I should actually demonstrate that and 160 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: say I appreciated the fact that and probably because I'm 161 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: a big brother. But still, she paid for it, picked 162 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: it up, went outside, she comes back in. She said, 163 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: the power seat doesn't work. Huh, I worked when I 164 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: moved it, went outside. I couldn't get the power seat 165 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 1: to work. Worth adorn leave the car. I'll look at 166 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: it tomorrow. Looked at it the next day. Long story. 167 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: Short hooked up a scan tool factory scan Tool TECHT 168 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: and using the scan tool, I was able to buy 169 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: directional control the seat, make this seat move forward, to 170 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 1: make the seat move backwards, something the switch wouldn't do. 171 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: But you could hear the switch turning the motor on. 172 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: Just that the seat never physically moved. It was almost 173 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: as if the power seat control module was in lock up. 174 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: It had gone into a logic lockup, disconnected the scan tool. 175 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 1: Sure enough, the seat now worked normal. Talking to her, 176 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: she said, you know, I should mention about a month 177 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: ago it happened to me just like that, the seat 178 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: locked up. I couldn't get it to work, she said, 179 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: I don't remember what I did. And then all of 180 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,599 Speaker 1: a sudden started working again on its own. Great a 181 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: challenge I need that. I don't have enough of that. 182 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: A lot of research later, and looking through a couple 183 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: of databases, and and looking for some rather old GM bulletins, 184 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: and just looking at all the files, and you can 185 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: imagine how many bulletins are in some of these cars. 186 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: Came across a particular bullet that talked about production change 187 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 1: that the engineers found in December of two thousand seven. 188 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: She purchased the car September of two thousand six. I'm 189 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: sorry in yeah, In September of two thousand and six. 190 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: In December of two thousand seven, they had a production 191 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: change on the seat assemblies. They found that some of 192 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: the early models had defective seat assemblies that at some 193 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: point it would affect the forward and rearward movement of 194 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: the power seat. They want you to put a new 195 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: seat frame in the car. And the real bottom line 196 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: is that fixing cars is very much so removed from 197 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: nuts and bolts and screw drivers and wrenches. Yeah you 198 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 1: need those, but more essential today you need computers, you 199 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: need software, you need the ability to flash, and you 200 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: need the ability to research. That's what the text need. 201 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 1: The consumer needs to realize that part of what you're 202 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: paying for on a proper diagnosis is some research time. 203 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: Like I always say about is nine Einstein always talks 204 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: about research, and he always said there's nothing wrong with 205 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: admitting you have to do research, not even I know everything. 206 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: And I might be paraphrasing that, but you get the point. 207 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: Don't be afraid of research and a diagnosis. Be afraid 208 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: of the mechanic that says I know everything, I can 209 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: fix it without having to look it up. I don't 210 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 1: do that, and I don't admit to that at all. 211 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 1: Nine zero I'm running ending the car. Doctor will be 212 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 1: back to kick open the garage doors right after this. Hey, 213 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: welcome back. We're not any car dot here by the way, 214 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 1: And I should point out the real thrill of the 215 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: Lumina was it had to go through state inspection. And 216 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:12,719 Speaker 1: you know, it's interesting how monitors work. You know, the 217 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: self test that the computer has to go through and 218 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: in order to to pass inspection in a lot of 219 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: states will be D two inspection. Put almost eighty miles 220 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: on that car trying to get the cat monitor to run, 221 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: and just lots of time. So it just seems like 222 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: there's easier ways. There's easier ways to do it. So 223 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,719 Speaker 1: but anyway, let's kick up in the garage doors and uh, 224 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: let's go over and talk to Walt in Maui, Hawaii. Walter, 225 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: how are you, sir? I'm good, Thank you. Wait for 226 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: the drum roll. There we go. Hey, well how are you? 227 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: We had to welcome you in. You know, you're you're 228 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: like family now here on the show. Yea, so you're 229 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: from the Union Point or something. I've been on so much. Yeah, 230 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 1: so you have to find a grievance with HR. I 231 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: can't help you, Okay, so, um, what's going on? What 232 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: can I do for you? Well, my question today is 233 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: about your showing April the seventeenth, I believe it was 234 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 1: you mentioned resetudying a Chrysler G computer by using a 235 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: ten home impedence wire between the battery cable and I 236 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: don't know what that is, and I was running I have, 237 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 1: you know, the Graisler van that I have, I think 238 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,839 Speaker 1: as pretty much that same computer, because wonder if you 239 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: could tell me what that is and how to do it? Okay, sure, Yeah. 240 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: In a lot of cases, car computers have to be rebooted. 241 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: Have they go into what I call logic lock up. 242 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 1: They're they're stuck. They you know, they process information just 243 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: the way a desktop computer process is information. Um, I've 244 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 1: seen this on everything from power steering seat modules to 245 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: power window assembly modules to engine computers. And basically you've 246 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 1: got to take power away from the computer. You've got 247 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: to reboot it because unfortunately, even in the event of 248 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: turning the ignition off, there's still a certain amount of 249 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: memory that is retained in modules and there's voltage to 250 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 1: the majority of them. So we'll do from time to 251 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: time on certain cars exhibiting certain symptom maybe in this 252 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: case a crank no starter. In the case of that jeep, 253 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: it was a no crank, no start. There was no 254 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: activity on the soloid feed coming out of the A 255 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: s D a automatic shutdown relay. So I did a reboot. 256 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: And what I did was I purchased on the outside 257 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: a ten on one watt resistor and took a jumper lead, 258 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: cut it in half, soldered the resistor in heat shrunk 259 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: it made it nice, all right, and I actually tagged it. 260 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: I actually put a P touch label tag on it, 261 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: so I never forget what it is because it's taped 262 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: up and it'll just look like a lumpy wire if 263 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: I forget. And basically what I do with that is, well, 264 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: can you imagine if I didn't realize which jumper lead 265 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: I and I picked an odd color um out of 266 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: my assortment so that I, you know, it's I only 267 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: have one of that. But can you imagine if I 268 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: picked this resistor wire and I used it to run 269 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: voltage tests or something, how it would skew my my 270 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: my readings. And it's the idea that you're going to 271 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: disconnect both battery cables positive and negative and put that 272 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: jumper wire in between the cables, and the reason the 273 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: resistor is there is think of it as a shock 274 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: absorber for the system, all right. Instead of creating what 275 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: you might think of as a dead short across positive 276 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: and negative, you're putting a little bit of a resistance value. 277 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: So it's a slower bleed. It doesn't bang, all right, 278 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: it's a more casual drop down, and it allows the 279 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: computer to discharge safely so that you don't hurt anything. 280 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: Because we have seen the process of disconnecting the cables 281 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: and just touching the cables together create computer issues on 282 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: certain cars. So we're just playing it safe, all right. 283 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: Ten minutes, ten minutes of that at with an impedance wire, 284 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: hook the cables back up, start the car up, and 285 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: you know, hopefully it starts, and then go through a 286 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: normal process of you know, drive drive cycle, um, not 287 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: emissions drive cycle, but normal conditions drive cycle, all right. 288 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: And depending upon the car, how smart the car is, 289 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: how new the car is, its ability to learn different 290 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: values for different drivers will change. But it's the idea 291 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: that you know, the average, the average reset drive cycle, 292 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: if I can say it like that is start the 293 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: car up two minutes of idol in the driveway two 294 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: minutes with the air conditioning on. Put it in gear 295 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: around the block, up the hill, thirty miles an hour, 296 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: forty miles an hour D cell, accelerate the fifty D cell, 297 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: take it out to the highway, bring it back, and 298 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: you know that's it. You're done. A c on a 299 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: CEO if you're trying to show it the extent of 300 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: normal operating values, and it should reset all of those, 301 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: uh right, right, it's parameters or its operating characteristics are 302 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: going to be reset. The newer the car, the more 303 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: parameters there are, and the newer the car there's transmission 304 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: characteristics that will get involved too. Now let me ask you, one, 305 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: would this be acorate on other fires or is this 306 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: just specific for the crisis? All cars? Yeah, all cars. 307 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: We do this. We do this on just about everything 308 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,199 Speaker 1: that rolls into the shop at anyone given time. Okay, one, 309 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 1: that's a radio check type item. Yeah. Radio. Actually, what 310 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: I did was I went out on Amazon and I 311 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: just I just plugged in ten on one watt resistor 312 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: and I think I hear Amazon is our general store, right, 313 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: and I believe I owned. I believe I I now 314 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 1: own I've pack uh five individuals, and I made up 315 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: two wires and I've got three in the draw for 316 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: the next time, and you have them went weird, correct, 317 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: And I haven't. I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I'm gonna do 318 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 1: that today. And not that I've needed it, but it 319 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: I have the You never know. But like I said, 320 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 1: it's Chrysler, it's four, it it's GM, it's it's all 321 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 1: of him, Walt, So don't don't think it's just the 322 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: Chryslers thing. All right, buddy, you have enough time for 323 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: another question. I'll tell you what. Stay on the line 324 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: and I'll come back. Um, I don't want to cut 325 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: your short. I know it's uh two for a nickel 326 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: today eight five zero nine nine zero zero. I'm running 327 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 1: in the car doctor. We're back right after this welcome 328 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: back meaning the car doctor rolling along at eight five 329 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: five five zero nine zero zero should point out we're 330 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 1: giving away a we have a giveaway this week. Um, 331 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: not just this hour, but this week. I'm not sure 332 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: if we're doing it this hour, next hour. Um, it's 333 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: sort of up to Fast Harry. So when you do 334 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 1: call in, be nice to Fast Harry. Decision of Harry 335 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 1: the judge is final. It's a Wicks diet cast giveaway. Um, 336 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 1: we've done this before. It's a great little one eighteenth 337 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: scale ninety nine Ford hot rod Ford Coup hot Rod 338 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: as a replica of really the ultimate American car. Everybody 339 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: wants a hot rod. It's got full moon discs, it's 340 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 1: got our opening hunting hood and trunk, white wall tires, 341 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: Ford flathead engine, and um, it comes to his courtesy 342 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 1: the nice folks at Wicks Wicks Filters dot com. Um, 343 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 1: we do know that they make the best filters in 344 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: the world for all kinds of machinery, and now they 345 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: make some pretty neat little hot rod cars too, So 346 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: get out the Wicks Filters dot com for all info 347 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: about product and the hot rod giveaway car. And let's 348 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: get back to Walt in Hawaii. I want to go 349 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 1: to why I meant to y twice today? And you 350 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 1: like that, Walter? Are you there, sir? Yes, sir? A 351 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: second question to for a nickel. Okay, well quickly, you 352 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 1: know I want the Wis hot rod here last year 353 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: or something. I love mine. I have it in my collection. 354 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 1: That's right, Yeah, that's right, I remember that now sure? Yeah? Um, 355 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: And I can't tell how he wanted to know if 356 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: he could get in that car so when he when 357 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: it got there, he would be in Hawaii, And I 358 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: told him though he just wouldn't fit. But yeah, it 359 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 1: would have been tough. Yeah, it would have been tough. 360 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: So anyway you're sitting question, is I have a a 361 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: Probe three And you were mentioned on that same show 362 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: that that there's uh certain times that it's not appropriate. 363 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 1: That what my question would be? Um, since I have it, 364 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: I feel like I under use it, and I was 365 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: wondering when it is, what the what when when would 366 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 1: be the best opportunity to use it and to get 367 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 1: the correct information from your diagnosis. I don't use it 368 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: where computer circuits are involved unless I'm absolutely sure of 369 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 1: what I'm doing, all right. I mean it's a great 370 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 1: tool of power. Probe three for anyone not familiar with 371 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: it provides power and ground in various places. It's got 372 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: a meter built in in the face of it. Correct 373 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:06,360 Speaker 1: yours yours has the liquid crystal display meter built into it? Well? Yeah, um, 374 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 1: you know, I use one in the shop and I 375 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 1: liked the tool. I'm just cautious with it. I've heard 376 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: some horror stories about people using it. Inappropriately. I've never 377 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: seen it, and I take it at face value because 378 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: believing everything I'm told, unless I actually see and experience it, 379 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 1: you know, it's like arguing with somebody over the internet. 380 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: It can become a fruitless pursuit. So that being said, 381 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: where have I used it recently? I had a matter 382 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: of fact, a cripser product that came in and it 383 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 1: wasn't turning over the starter. A matter of fact, it 384 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: was the jeep that we were talking about just before 385 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: where it wouldn't turn over the starter. There was no 386 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: feed out the A s D out the automatic shutdown 387 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,959 Speaker 1: relay to provide signal to the starter solonoid. So I 388 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: located which leg of the relay was the feed down 389 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: to the starter. I provided twelve vaults using the power 390 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: probe right down that pin and I got the engine 391 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: the crank. So I knew it wasn't the starter. I 392 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: knew it wasn't the circuit. I knew it wasn't the connection, 393 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: and that's what brought me back to the A s 394 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: D and to this side of the circuit. Obviously, anything 395 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 1: to do with tail lights, headlights, any place I'm looking 396 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 1: for power as a voultmeter it's very handy. The thing 397 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: I like about it is once I hook it up 398 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 1: to battery, which can be a problem on certain cars 399 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: because batteries are not always under the hood anymore. There's 400 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: sometimes inaccessible and then I have to I have to 401 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: be careful what test point I'm going to to make 402 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: sure that that ground lug under the hood, which is 403 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 1: a point of contention for me. They give you a 404 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,360 Speaker 1: ground lug under the hood to attach a meter or two, 405 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: and sometimes it's corroded and dirty, and it it doesn't 406 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 1: help the case. So you know that being said, if 407 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 1: I can get to the battery positive and negative, I 408 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 1: can use it. It's nice long leads that will run 409 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: around the car forwards backwards. I can use it for 410 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: all manners of that. I've used it to activate wiper motors. 411 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 1: I've used did to run power window motors. Great for 412 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: power window motors up and down. And you can provide 413 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: your own ground. You can provide power. Does the motor 414 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 1: work yes or no? The motor doesn't work bad? Motor 415 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: motor does work well, then maybe I've got a problem 416 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: in switcher wiring or something leading up to it. At 417 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 1: that point that's appropriate. Would I use it to activate 418 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 1: or provide ground to a canister vent solenoid. Probably not 419 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 1: not unless I disconnected it off of the solenoid and 420 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: just provided ground while power came from the vehicle only 421 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: because and I'm giving this as an example, in a 422 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: lot of cars, the ground leg of a canister vent 423 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 1: is powered or is ground storry is grounded through the PCM. 424 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: So I wouldn't want to take anything that has the ability. 425 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: You know, imagine this will you're working on the car, 426 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 1: You're about to touch that ground lead to the vent 427 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: line and it's plugged in, it's feeding back to the PCM, 428 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: and your wife comes out and says Walt telephone, and 429 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 1: you get distracted, pushed the button the wrong way, and 430 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: then you send power up that ground leg. What could happen? 431 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 1: So you're going back to a computer with twelve vaults 432 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: that doesn't necessarily like to see that in all cases. 433 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 1: So I'm a little cautious on things like that. So okay, 434 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: it helps me a thank you a lot, right, I mean, 435 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 1: you know, they have some great videos YouTube channel stuff 436 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 1: that you can see, and you know, maybe as I 437 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: use it more in the shop, UM, I don't use 438 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 1: it a whole lot I haven't had the need, but 439 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 1: maybe as I use it more in the shop, will 440 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: do a couple of videos on our own in the future. 441 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 1: I can't promise, but okay, but it is a good tool. 442 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: I like the tool, all right, sir. Okay, thank you 443 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 1: visit sometimes. Thank you. Wal Well, we'll take we might 444 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: take you up on that. And now I've got Harry 445 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 1: looking up cruise ships. But we'll get there, Walter. Take 446 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: good care. Tom yo yo, yo yo. I think it's 447 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 1: a time for our Facebook card doct her t shirt 448 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,919 Speaker 1: giveaway of the week, Is it not? Yes, it is. 449 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: And this question comes from Frank Hammer, who asks Ron. 450 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: He says, you know, Ron, I've listened to your show 451 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: for many years and I now listen via podcast, and 452 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: I know you don't like Subaru actually as Volkswagen. But 453 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: I also know your first rule is by what you like. Anyway, 454 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 1: The owner's manual from my forest Or indicates that the 455 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: first cooling change should be in eleven years or a 456 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 1: hundred thirty seven thousand, five hundred miles. That sounds like 457 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: a recipe for disaster to me. If coolan's gotten that good? 458 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 1: And what would you recommend for a coolant change? Interval. Well, 459 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: I think where the coolant would last eleven years and 460 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: a hundred thirty seven thousand miles, I think that exists. 461 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: It's just not here because this is the real world. 462 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: I said, you know, I think in fantasyland that's possible, 463 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: and I think that's what the engineers are going on. Well, 464 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: either that or you'd find that in the junk the 465 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: one in the junkyardument. Because for a company that just 466 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: ten years ago was known for head gasket failures from 467 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 1: poor cooling system issues, I find it amazing that they 468 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 1: actually have the nerve to stand up and say you 469 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: have to change the cooling for eleven years. I actually 470 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 1: read a couple of bulletins from Subaru, and it's not 471 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: that I don't like them, they just they're They're an 472 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: interesting company the way they think. There's more than a 473 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: few bulletins out there from Subaru to talk about their 474 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 1: fear of cooling system exchange service using a machine that 475 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: has other cool intended for fear of contaminating the Subaru system. Now, 476 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: why is it that's Subaru? And I've never got an 477 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 1: answer from anybody, And maybe I don't have the right 478 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 1: to ask this question, but I want to know. Why 479 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: is it? Subaru is the only car company I've ever 480 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 1: seen issue that bulletin Why are they the only ones 481 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 1: that have a problem with contaminated cooling? Listen, let's be honest. 482 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: Do you think everybody looks up a cooling machine to 483 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 1: afford product, flushes it and gets out all the old 484 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,199 Speaker 1: coolinth of whatever it is they were flushing before. In 485 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 1: most cases no, And even if you try, you can't 486 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: get a Subaru mandates it. They don't want any cross contamination. 487 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 1: So to answer the question, Frank, if it were me, 488 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: I would be testing that coolant every year using a 489 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 1: dip strip, using which is basically what it is. It's 490 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,199 Speaker 1: it's a dip strip. It's the idea of the litmus 491 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 1: paper test we all did in high school science, where 492 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 1: we're looking to see when the cooling turns acidic and 493 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: when the coolant loses its freeze point protection. And I 494 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: would probably consider replacing that coolant at the five year mark. 495 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: I'm just being cautious. You know what, if I'm spending 496 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 1: an extra hundred and fifty dollars so you don't have 497 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: to replace head gaskets prematurely, or you don't have an 498 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: engine problem, prematurely, so be it better to be safe 499 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: than sound. I agree with you, Frank, it sounds like 500 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 1: a recipe for disaster. Hey, if you got a question 501 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 1: for the Car Doctor, you want to win a Car 502 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 1: Doctor T shirt, get out to our Facebook page Ron 503 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 1: Andiny and the Card Doctor and ask a question. If 504 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 1: we pick your question from that page, use it up 505 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: here on air. We do this the same time each hour. 506 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,199 Speaker 1: Each week you'll win a Car Doctor T shirt will 507 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: be heading your way. Frank, send me a line Ron 508 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 1: at Card Doctor Show dot com your address that sure 509 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: it will be out the door Monday morning, six zero zero. 510 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: We're on Nating the Car Doctor. We are back right 511 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: after this coming by. Hey, welcome back. We're nating of 512 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor rolling along this hour. You know, in 513 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: the National Automotive Technology Competition was created and it's brought 514 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: together the nation's best high school automotive technicians. And I 515 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,719 Speaker 1: always talk about where the technicians of tomorrow when it's 516 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: gonna be gentlemen like the next two that we're about 517 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: to have on, Jonathan O'Neil and Devon be Alec from Connecticut, 518 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: and they are the winners up here in this part 519 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: of the country and We thought we'd have them out 520 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: a little bit to look at the technician and talk 521 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: about the technician of tomorrow because I want to retire 522 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: and it's nice to know guys like this or are 523 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: out there on the up and coming ranks. Guys, welcome. 524 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: How are you today? Are good? I'm not. I'm not 525 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: sure which I'm talking to? Do we have both the 526 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: on the same line, or were on extensions? Or how 527 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: are we doing this? We're both on the same line 528 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: right now. Okay, So let me talk to Jonathan first. 529 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: I guess Jonathan, um, you're you're You've won a contest 530 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: about fixing cars at the national level. You guys are 531 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,479 Speaker 1: going to New York uh in a couple of weeks, right, 532 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: or has that already happened? That already happened. We did win. 533 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: We won our state competition in Connecticut, and then we 534 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: went to the New York International Auto Show and won 535 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: that competition there, facing on the top other twenty nine 536 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: teams across the country. So you guys are the national winners. 537 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,959 Speaker 1: Congratulations to both of you. So, Devin, what got you 538 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 1: interested in cars? I mean, you know, I know, listen, 539 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: I was interested in cars at my age I'm curious 540 00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 1: what made you tick? What made it happen for you? Um? Well, 541 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: when I was younger, um, you know, I always played 542 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: with you know, mashbox Cars has trocks and other little cars. 543 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: But when it really started, I was in eighth grade 544 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: and my grandfather had a fifty seventh Thunderbird, uh the 545 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: wive lock V eight in it, and we did a 546 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: full build on that. And after that, Um, when I 547 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: was fourteen, I bought Must Stay in Cobra and from 548 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: there on out it was just cars. Yeah, just cars. 549 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: It just made just made you tick. I often think 550 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: I tell people they said, what do you like about cars? 551 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: I said, to me, it's like a piano. I can 552 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: look at it. Some people think it's just a bunch 553 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: of keys, black and white. I look at a car 554 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 1: under a hood and I can I just get it, um, 555 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: you know. And Devin, same thing for you. Yeah, pretty much. 556 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: Sometimes I don't always get it, um, But the fact 557 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: that figuring it out was the most fun part. Jonathan, 558 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: what do you love about cars? Uh? You know, I 559 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: think a lot of people are like me, and they 560 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: just can't put a finger on it. They just like it, 561 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: and I just like them. They're just interesting. Now both 562 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: of you are currently working in a dealership. Correct. Uh, 563 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: John's about to be. I'm not yet. I'm cutting off 564 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: for a little bit. Um. I want to school, as 565 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: to us say, stay competition, and I have nationals now 566 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: in June, so I don't really have time, say not 567 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: to school and whatnot? Right? Right? Right? Um? Are you 568 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: gonna go to trade school? Either one of you? Are 569 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: you going to work right away? We have, but we 570 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: have a bunch of full tuition scholarships. We already go 571 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: to a trade school. Um. Our high school is a 572 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: trade school, but we we want a bunch of full 573 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: tuition scholarships through the New York competition. Um. So we 574 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 1: have a lot of thinking to do and where we 575 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: want to go next. Well, let me let me tell 576 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: the two of you. You know, when I started doing this, 577 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: it was nuts bolts, carburetors, points, distributors in advance. Um. 578 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: All all I can tell you is keep studying, keep reading, 579 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: don't give up. It's going to change radically. Um. Um. 580 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 1: Probably more excited for you guys than you guys are, 581 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: because I know what kind of change I went through, 582 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 1: and I would be willing to bet by the time 583 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: you finish your careers. We really might have flying cars 584 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: for the masses. It'll be interesting. UM. So you guys 585 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 1: are gonna see some really neat stuff uh in the 586 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: coming years. Listen, the clock is gonna grab me. I 587 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: wish we had more time, but we're gonna keep your 588 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: names on file. We're gonna talk again, maybe monitor your 589 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: progress is you guys, move along, but stay on the line. 590 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 1: I want to make sure fast Harry gets your information. 591 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: We're gonna send you out a couple of Car Doctor 592 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 1: t shirts and uh we we appreciate you guys for 593 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: your effort and I wish you the best of luck 594 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: in the years to come. Thank you very much. You're 595 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: very welcome. And UM, by the way, I should mention 596 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: if there's any dealers out there looking for these guys, 597 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: they're the nation's next best technicians. Give us a qual 598 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: at eight five zero nine nine zero zero. I'm Ron 599 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: and any in the Car Doctor. I'll be back right 600 00:32:49,040 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: after this. Welcome back. Why I'm meaning the car doctor boy. 601 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 1: You know it's it's got to be exciting for those 602 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: those two kids. You know what they're going to see 603 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 1: in their careers and how technology is going to change. Um, 604 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: let me demonstrate it. Like this, Tony, how you doing good? Baby? 605 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: Can you? Hum? Okay? Well that's enough. Um. And the 606 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: reason I say that to demonstrate the point. Have you 607 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: seen the new commercials from Verizon. They're talking about the 608 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: Verizon Hum. Look at the technology that's here, right, Uh, 609 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: you know, here's somebody that Tony, you're you're like, you're 610 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: like a lay person when it comes to cars. You 611 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: really don't understand what's going on. Right, So here's a 612 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: device that's gonna plug into the O B D two 613 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: port all right, So it's gonna plug it under the dash. 614 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 1: It will tell you what the check engine light means. 615 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: It will tell you when it's time to go in 616 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: for an oil change. It will help you connect hands 617 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: free to the car in some situations. It can also 618 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 1: give you the ability that if the car is doing something, 619 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: it doesn't start, it doesn't run, right, you can call 620 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 1: a mechanics hotline. It's all subscription service through the Verizon. Hum. 621 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: It's called common sense. How can you Why do you 622 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: have to install that in just setting? Using common sense? Right? 623 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: It's it's well, why because how are you gonna call 624 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: the mechanics hotline without a device? To tell you to 625 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 1: where to find somebody. This is gonna do it for you. 626 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:35,439 Speaker 1: It's gonna it's gonna automate the process what your well 627 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 1: for you. But not everybody's got a right for the average, 628 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 1: for the average Joe. Um. So, I just want to 629 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 1: let you know that you might hum more in the future, 630 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: especially if you start driving. I want a royalty check. 631 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 1: You want a royalty check. I'm gonna do that for 632 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: every every car in America. If you're gonna hum, what well? Oh, 633 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: I see, so you're gonna become the person that humes 634 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 1: for the car. Actually, it's a device that Hulmes Tony 635 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:05,439 Speaker 1: to so I can't imagine. I can't imagine. So, but um, yeah, 636 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: we love your Tony, um Tony. And I chose Tony 637 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 1: out of the crew because Tony is probably the least 638 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 1: bit of a car person that we've got. And it's 639 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: just interesting to look at the technology and see what 640 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: they're coming up with, and it's changing in leaps and bounds, 641 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,320 Speaker 1: it really is. And the Verizon Hume is just the 642 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 1: tip of the iceberg they're gonna and what they're getting 643 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 1: it to do now, they're they're going to improve upon 644 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: that in the coming years. I really envisioned the day, 645 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: and we've got it now, but not for the masses 646 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 1: and not for every car. And that's what the humble do. 647 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 1: I really envisioned the day. You're gonna take this device 648 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 1: like the hump, push the button. I want dinner reservations. 649 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 1: Where's the nearest three star, four star restaurant, whatever the 650 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 1: case might be in bang Okay, call him up. I 651 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: want reservations, concierge service, the whole nine yards. The technology 652 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,319 Speaker 1: that's coming to cars, and we need kids like Jonathan 653 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 1: and uh, I'm sorry Devon to fix them. It's just 654 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 1: that important. I'm ring aating in the car doctor. The 655 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 1: mechanics aren't expensive, they're placeless.