Speaker 1: Kind of like the more we learn, the more and
Speaker 1: the more we grow, the more we can, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, And kind of like what I'm trying
Speaker 1: to hold on to these days, which is really hard
Speaker 1: for me because I overthink things, but like done is
Speaker 1: better than perfect.
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Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, you know you have had a brand that
Speaker 2: is like you know, people know you, but you're also
Speaker 2: still out here. You're evolving it, You're giving people content.
Speaker 2: If you guys follow her on social you'll see this.
Speaker 2: What does building a brand look like to you today?
Speaker 2: That is a great question. I am still trying to
Speaker 2: figure it out. I think.
Speaker 1: For me.
Speaker 3: For me, it's kind of like what I who I am.
Speaker 1: As an artist is very close to who I am
Speaker 1: as a person. So I think it's along the way
Speaker 1: deciding like what I want to share and I value
Speaker 1: having my privacy also, you know, so that can be
Speaker 1: a difficult balance sometimes. But I would say, like as
Speaker 1: a business woman, I think sometimes I'll take myself out
Speaker 1: for a second and try and vision as a brand.
Speaker 1: And I think one of the most valuable things to
Speaker 1: me that's kept me grounded is just to like always
Speaker 1: have a big personal vision for myself so that I
Speaker 1: can stay consistent with that and it kind of teaches
Speaker 1: me internally when to say yes and no so that
Speaker 1: my brain feels authentic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that because it's a struggle. It's a
Speaker 2: funny question, right, because at the bottom line where I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: you should just be yourself, right, and this is what
Speaker 2: you would think. But it's hard in the public eye
Speaker 2: balancing both like how much you want to put out,
Speaker 2: you know, and especially when you have such soulful music,
Speaker 2: people gravitate, I'm sure to your music because they feel
Speaker 2: you've touched something in themselves. And so I surmise it
Speaker 2: would be even harder because you want to give that
Speaker 2: back to people, but at the same time, like you
Speaker 2: can't give it all away. It has to be sort
Speaker 2: of cognizant of that too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think there's also things like for me,
Speaker 1: like just like you know, tapping into what are my
Speaker 1: core values for myself because I think you just want
Speaker 1: to say yes to everything and every kind of support
Speaker 1: because it's like, it's great to have resources, and it's
Speaker 1: definitely challenging sometimes as an independent artist to have enough resources.
Speaker 1: But when you think about brand, like for me, just
Speaker 1: thinking about what different companies I would want to work with,
Speaker 1: you know, getting to work with Aldo around you know,
Speaker 1: they did like a awareness around HIV and there was
Speaker 1: a whole thing with just like fashion and consciousness versus
Speaker 1: you know, there was like maybe a tobacco company that
Speaker 1: approached me early on, and I was just like, I
Speaker 1: can't say yes to that. Even though I want to
Speaker 1: say yes to the money, it's not gonna it's going
Speaker 1: to be a conflict within me and so knowing when
Speaker 1: to say no. And then it's like, you know, full circle.
Speaker 1: All these years later, I ended up working with the
Speaker 1: anti tobacco.
Speaker 3: Oh look at that, and then and then they were like,
Speaker 3: we want to support you.
Speaker 1: So I think just kind of knowing, like what what
Speaker 1: is the right synergy?
Speaker 2: I always look at that because it's they're tough choices,
Speaker 2: like you can get a big check and you're like, ugh,
Speaker 2: I need this, but am I okay with this? And yeah,
Speaker 2: like really tough everyday decisions that I mean not just
Speaker 2: musicians have to make, yeah, totally.
Speaker 1: And sometimes it's worth it, and sometimes it's worth thinking
Speaker 1: outside the box how can I make this work? And
Speaker 1: sometimes it's just like I'm just gonna have to pass
Speaker 1: on that because bigger picture, this is totally not in
Speaker 1: line and it's gonna just throw off what I've been building.
Speaker 1: And then you just have that the right thing is
Speaker 1: gonna come.
Speaker 2: Oh, well, the right thing comes, and you've had your
Speaker 2: hands in many many pots from acting to entrepreneurship, so
Speaker 2: you've been able to sort of monetize and create many
Speaker 2: streams of income for yourself as well, you know, throughout
Speaker 2: the course of your music career. Talk a little bit
Speaker 2: about the acting, and then we'll go back and we'll
Speaker 2: speak a bit on these brand partnerships as well.
Speaker 1: Yes, the acting, I feel like I haven't got to
Speaker 1: do as much as I want to do in acting,
Speaker 1: and it can be kind of an intimidating thing because
Speaker 1: it's like a whole different a whole different muscle to
Speaker 1: practice and it's really vulnerable. But I did get to do.
Speaker 1: One of the first things I got to do was
Speaker 1: being Sparkle with the late great Whitney Houston, and it
Speaker 1: was so fun for me because I got to play
Speaker 1: a retro group, you know, a singing group, and I
Speaker 1: got to have like fun and I got it was
Speaker 1: just like fun, and I got to sing the actual
Speaker 1: song running in a studio with Chuck Harmony and then
Speaker 1: we got to perform it and that was a great
Speaker 1: way to get my feet wet. And I also met
Speaker 1: Omari Hardwick on that set, which you know we've become
Speaker 1: friends and got to work together creatively, so that was
Speaker 1: just awesome. And also got to work a mirror a
Speaker 1: Kiel and Selima Killmore just houses Tower Houses and you know,
Speaker 1: had my music in other of their projects. I got
Speaker 1: to work with Ava du Verne. She did this short
Speaker 1: film called The Door and it was with Giants. You know,
Speaker 1: it's like with Alfre Wooder and Gale Union and ama
Speaker 1: Yatzi and at Apperil and it was just like, for me,
Speaker 1: one of my favorite things because it was like it
Speaker 1: was with me.
Speaker 3: And you and I love that brand.
Speaker 1: But then yes, black women just like as friends telling
Speaker 1: a story and.
Speaker 3: So that was really fun.
Speaker 1: And there's a couple other indie projects Where's Beauty and
Speaker 1: other things that I've got to be involved with. But
Speaker 1: I hope to get even further into that world because
Speaker 1: I have some different ideas.
Speaker 2: I hope this for you as you talk about some
Speaker 2: of the collaborations and you know I had, it always
Speaker 2: gets people excited. But can you share with us some
Speaker 2: of the other incredible artists that you've worked with, some
Speaker 2: of the hits that you've worked on.
Speaker 1: Let's see, I've worked with a lot of rappers, mainly
Speaker 1: I'm like from E forty the Snoop High Road to
Speaker 1: and I Rex Life, Raj a lot of different folks,
Speaker 1: and I love that because it's like, you know, I
Speaker 1: can do a hook or a verse and they're filling
Speaker 1: it in and it just kind of like it's not
Speaker 1: as much pressure, you know, yeah, yourself. And then I
Speaker 1: just recently did a song with Raheem Devong, who's like yeah,
Speaker 1: because he's amazing live. But we did this song called
Speaker 1: Love around the Clock that's on his new album.
Speaker 3: And I also got to work with bj the Chicago
Speaker 3: kid who's also.
Speaker 1: A singer and songwriter, you know, besides his own stuff,
Speaker 1: he's done all this amazing stuff with Kendrick Lamar and folks.
Speaker 1: And I'm also collaborating with folks visually. And I just
Speaker 1: for the new project Colors, Like for the first song
Speaker 1: Time Heels, I worked with a visual artist called Human,
Speaker 1: Filipino woman out of the Bay Area, and she does
Speaker 1: amazing murals, amazing canvas, all kinds of stuff. But she's
Speaker 1: she designed my album cover. But she also I worked
Speaker 1: with her on this piece that she did called Ecclusion
Speaker 1: for Time Heels, and it's like art, the animates with
Speaker 1: the merch and I'm just excited to be thinking outside
Speaker 1: of the box and getting to bring in visual aspects
Speaker 1: because it's like for me, I hear, I see visuals
Speaker 1: and I've been wanting to incorporate more of that. And
Speaker 1: then I also have candle sense that go with the
Speaker 1: different songs, and smell is.
Speaker 3: Like really cute for me. I like think good, smell
Speaker 3: good and look.
Speaker 1: Good and feel good and and so just incorporating more
Speaker 1: of a holistic approach, which feels like a little more
Speaker 1: like my lifestyle getting to bring that to the public.
Speaker 2: So I saw this, y'all, and if you were tuning
Speaker 2: in to listen, make sure you go check it out.
Speaker 2: The lifestyle brand is dream Seeker.
Speaker 3: Is that correct?
Speaker 2: And it's because this just feels like the natural evolution
Speaker 2: if you you know, we have this auditory experience where
Speaker 2: you get to listen to music, but then you're adding
Speaker 2: all these sensory elements on from the smell to visual
Speaker 2: And if you check out on Guappalaid's Instagram, you'll see
Speaker 2: a little teaser of it there. It is really beautiful.
Speaker 2: I really love that, and there's butterflies. It's everything I
Speaker 2: would have imagined it to be. In a perfect sensory experience.
Speaker 3: So thank you. I'm so happy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is really really incredible, and I love that
Speaker 2: you're able to you know, this is how you want
Speaker 2: to experience some music, so you're bringing it to the
Speaker 2: people that love your music.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's something that I've thought about for a
Speaker 1: really long time and it's finally coming to fruition and
Speaker 1: like manifesting, Like okay, there's something physical that I can share,
Speaker 1: you know, because I concept for a long time and
Speaker 1: it was you know, it took a while to figure
Speaker 1: out how to translate it.
Speaker 2: And so talk about it.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's really interesting to see.
Speaker 2: So you and the artist human collaborated to sort of
Speaker 2: create this visual tell us a little bit more about that.
Speaker 1: So I did a She had an immersive art installation
Speaker 1: in Berkeley or Emeryville near Oakland. What was this maybe
Speaker 1: like a year ago and incredible. I mean there was
Speaker 1: like five rooms you could walk through. She had fabric
Speaker 1: painted that was hanging strips from the ceiling projected on it.
Speaker 1: You could walk through it. That was her art was
Speaker 1: all over the walls and some of it she had
Speaker 1: built in filters where if you put your phone over
Speaker 1: it it animates. There's not a lot of visual artists
Speaker 1: that also have that technical translation where they're able to
Speaker 1: sticulate on more mediums. So that was really dope. And
Speaker 1: I was invited to sing there and it was just
Speaker 1: after I had you know, I had been visioning, like
Speaker 1: how am I how can I bring other sensory experiences
Speaker 1: to my music? And I had like found the first
Speaker 1: scent that I was going to use. So I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is the perfect place where I can perform some
Speaker 1: of my songs and have the scent going through the room,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: And it's subtle, but I was like, it's.
Speaker 1: A step, it's a step, It's a step, yes, in
Speaker 1: this place that's so immersive already. So we just kept
Speaker 1: talking after that, and there was a piece that she
Speaker 1: painted that just really resonated with me because it was
Speaker 1: about time, it was about healing, it was about transformation,
Speaker 1: and I was like, can we do something around this piece?
Speaker 1: So she kind of customized a version of that piece
Speaker 1: for Time Heels because it just felt like in the
Speaker 1: right tone. It was already like Time Heels was kind
Speaker 1: of like a golden hour sunset, you know, burnt oranges
Speaker 1: type color tone for me in my mind, which is
Speaker 1: a lot of that is in the painting, but it's
Speaker 1: also about transformation and how time heels things.
Speaker 3: So I was like, this is perfect.
Speaker 2: How can we perfect, you know?
Speaker 1: And so we did a limited edition merch together, and
Speaker 1: now she's done the album cover and all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 2: Okay, you remiss if I didn't allow you right now
Speaker 2: to tell us where we can find this, like plug
Speaker 2: plug my sister.
Speaker 1: Yes, So people can go to Dreamseeker dot com. That's
Speaker 1: where the merch is available and the candles are available.
Speaker 1: And if people go to guappola dot com, it'll link
Speaker 1: through to that g OA p E l E dot com. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and all my handles are just at wappola.
Speaker 3: So beautiful.
Speaker 2: I don't even know how you got dreamsecret dot com
Speaker 2: as a website that just feels like gold right there.
Speaker 1: I think as so many people that I interact with,
Speaker 1: you know, the songs called closer, but so many people
Speaker 1: I interact with are like, closer to my dreams, you know,
Speaker 1: got me through this or that or whatever. And I
Speaker 1: feel like, and they'll tell me the story of how,
Speaker 1: you know, what dreams they've fulfilled. They're at in their
Speaker 1: evolution and I feel there's all these dream seekers out
Speaker 1: there that are on their journey doing all these make
Speaker 1: things in different fields, and I want to stay tapped
Speaker 1: in with them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh I'm a dream seeker. I love this.
Speaker 2: This is so beautiful because I think it brings me
Speaker 2: full circle to some of your work you do with
Speaker 2: sky Blaze Recordings for emerging artists. You're helping others seek
Speaker 2: their dreams and achieve their dreams. Tell us about a
Speaker 2: little bit how a little bit more about how you
Speaker 2: support these emerging artists.
Speaker 1: Well, to be honest with you, that's something that we're
Speaker 1: still working on. We've definitely worked with a lot of
Speaker 1: up and coming producers that are now, like you know,
Speaker 1: have some solid careers and they're not up income anymore.
Speaker 1: So I think just from the beginning, just working with
Speaker 1: people where there's been good synergy cream and building together.
Speaker 1: I really believe in that. And I've been working with
Speaker 1: some of the same people since the beginning, you know,
Speaker 1: Mike Tiger, bed Rock, Eryl Cooney, Jeff Basker, a lot
Speaker 1: of different folks and different writers. I think sky Blaze
Speaker 1: has been historically more of a vehicle as an artist
Speaker 1: that's been more of a vehicle for me. They're emerging artists,
Speaker 1: but definitely there's always been a lot of community building
Speaker 1: where we're working with you know, different emerging artists and
Speaker 1: definitely producers and musicians. And I think that the mentorship
Speaker 1: part is so important and helped me immensely, like when
Speaker 1: I was first getting into music of like you know,
Speaker 1: folks like DJ Fuse from Digital Underground or E forty
Speaker 1: or Prints, you know, all these like artists and musicians
Speaker 1: with longevity that have been that we're honest out their
Speaker 1: journey and like, you need to be writing, you need
Speaker 1: to have ownership, you need to buy your own equipment,
Speaker 1: you need to you know, think about this and that
Speaker 1: in deals and you know, surrounding myself with a trustworthy team.
Speaker 2: And so okay, you mentioned Prince, Yes, so I've got
Speaker 2: to go back to that. Was he a big mentor for.
Speaker 3: You in this space? Yeah?
Speaker 1: He was, and he I think I met him probably
Speaker 1: in like oh five oh six something around maybe a
Speaker 1: little before that, because I think it was where I
Speaker 1: put out my second album, right before I put out
Speaker 1: Change at All. Because if I look back, we gave
Speaker 1: him like some some of the songs before I put
Speaker 1: him out.
Speaker 3: You know, kind of like what are you.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, please don't break my heart, but tell me something.
Speaker 1: I remember he was like, like that song crushed out
Speaker 1: and I ended up later on, you know, years later,
Speaker 1: performing that at his club when he did the thirty
Speaker 1: one twenty one in Vegas and he came up and
Speaker 1: did a solo on it. But he used to come
Speaker 1: to my shows.
Speaker 3: He flew out to the Bay Area for the album
Speaker 3: release party.
Speaker 1: He would, you know, he would host these parties and
Speaker 1: dinner and include me and so many amazing musicians and
Speaker 1: independent artists and just talk about like how important ownership
Speaker 1: is and being your masters, and how to think about
Speaker 1: your music like art, you know, and not give all
Speaker 1: your power away. And he just did things in such
Speaker 1: a innovative way.
Speaker 3: You know. It's like he was always thinking out of
Speaker 3: the box.
Speaker 1: Of course, he had so much success, he had a
Speaker 1: lot of freedom to decide, I'm going to press up
Speaker 1: my own.
Speaker 3: I don't know how many albums.
Speaker 1: You know, what I meant is included in the tickets,
Speaker 1: Like that's genius.
Speaker 3: And but also about he was so prolific, but he
Speaker 3: really valued what he brought.
Speaker 1: And I think it was just like a different perspective
Speaker 1: of not being a victim the industry, but really bringing
Speaker 1: being valuable and recognizing that and not in a conceded,
Speaker 1: not in an arrogant way. You know. He also had
Speaker 1: such an inredibly intense work ethic.
Speaker 3: You know, you don't want to have an air like
Speaker 3: time to me.
Speaker 1: Because you know I should so fire that, but it's like, hmmm,
Speaker 1: we have to put in the work, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, and the best we can because we care
Speaker 1: so much about what we're giving, you know. So I
Speaker 1: think like he was such an example of that, but
Speaker 1: then at the end of the day, like he really
Speaker 1: valued what he had and don't just give everything away.
Speaker 1: So you know, some just some things that were instilled
Speaker 1: in me, but even also like his creative process, like
Speaker 1: going in the studio and recording on your own, you know,
Speaker 1: and just being a little more open and vulnerable and
Speaker 1: all of that.
Speaker 2: So, now, as you're about to drop your next this
Speaker 2: latest album, what do you have advice now that you've
Speaker 2: sort of come through, you know, years of experience, what
Speaker 2: is the final piece of advice that you would give
Speaker 2: to artists now that are creating, putting out music, trying
Speaker 2: to be successful, trying to build a brand, trying to
Speaker 2: create generational wealth, all these things that keep.
Speaker 1: Us all That is such a great question and that
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm still trying to find the answer
Speaker 1: to myself.
Speaker 3: What I would say to me, what I have to
Speaker 3: come back to is like I want to do what
Speaker 3: I love.
Speaker 1: I need to stay like stay creative, you know, get
Speaker 1: in the studio and when you don't feel motivate, work
Speaker 1: with different people just so that you're there enough for
Speaker 1: the magic to happen when it can, because it's not
Speaker 1: going to happen. And then like surround yourself with trustworthy
Speaker 1: people that are down to hold up your vision but
Speaker 1: also and believe in you, but also like question you
Speaker 1: and be honest with you. Then just give the best
Speaker 1: that you can. And it's kind of like the more
Speaker 1: we learn, the more and the more we grow, the
Speaker 1: more we can, you know what I mean. And kind
Speaker 1: of like what I'm trying to hold onto these days,
Speaker 1: which is really hard for me because I overthink things,
Speaker 1: but like done is better than perfect.
Speaker 3: That is like my I say that all the time.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you when.
Speaker 1: Somebody told me that, I was like, I really need
Speaker 1: to hold on to this because I can overthink my
Speaker 1: way at everything, like, oh it's not good enough, you too,
Speaker 1: And it's like, okay, once I have really done my
Speaker 1: best and it's not gonna stre in the next near future,
Speaker 1: let it.
Speaker 3: Go, you know, let it go.
Speaker 2: Just let it get out there, and you know you'll
Speaker 2: build on it, you'll iterate, you'll change. And it's it's
Speaker 2: funny because nowadays, when you look at it, I could
Speaker 2: see I understand. Right, Remember back in the day, you're
Speaker 2: talking about pressing a CD like it had to be perfect.
Speaker 2: I guess right now you can iterate, you can release
Speaker 2: a remix on your social media.
Speaker 3: Done is better than perfect.
Speaker 1: It's it's a tough one. It's a beause it's scary
Speaker 1: and vulnerable, you know, to put your there. But it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: once I've done the best that I know I can do,
Speaker 1: and like maybe I want it to be better, but
Speaker 1: I'm not going to get to that.
Speaker 3: Yeap, Now all right, share it?
Speaker 1: And then I also it's really important to not burn
Speaker 1: bridges because if I told you how many people I've
Speaker 1: run back into overall these but I've been in the industry,
Speaker 1: not at the same company, not in the same place,
Speaker 1: in all different places, and it's like if you can
Speaker 1: maintain respect, you know, with people and good relationships, like
Speaker 1: you can't have to worry. It's such a rollercoaster in
Speaker 1: this entertainment industry, Like certain opportunities don't come back around,
Speaker 1: certain relationships do come back around, Like you know what
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 2: You feel like you have to move with good intention.
Speaker 2: You can't be a pusher where you can't you know,
Speaker 2: You've got to stick up for yourself when you do.
Speaker 2: But there's always a way that you can do it
Speaker 2: that you know, doesn't alienate the people around you, doesn't
Speaker 2: disrespect you know, And I say this all the time.
Speaker 2: You never know.
Speaker 3: Twenty years is a long time that.
Speaker 2: Person who is bringing you coffee shows up as like
Speaker 2: in the c suite, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: So true, it is so true.
Speaker 2: But you sleep well knowing like I treated everybody around
Speaker 2: me fairly and kind.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's just back to like treat people
Speaker 1: the way you want to be treated and not like
Speaker 1: you know, any of us are perfect. I'm sure I've
Speaker 1: offended some people no different days if I was in
Speaker 1: a bad mood or something. But at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, like I feel like there's a lot of
Speaker 1: good people that have stood the test of time that
Speaker 1: I've been able to come back to.
Speaker 2: Oh, lovely, this is beautiful. Thank you so much for
Speaker 2: your beautiful words. Thank you so much for sharing all
Speaker 2: your mindset and wisdom with us moneymovers. As we run
Speaker 2: out of time for today, I want to make sure
Speaker 2: that we give you the opportunity again to share where
Speaker 2: they can follow you on social, where they can buy
Speaker 2: your candles, tell us again about dream Seekers, let us
Speaker 2: know everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so on all the handles on guappola g
Speaker 1: O A p E l E. You can go to
Speaker 1: gapla dot com to kind of find anything. But the
Speaker 1: specialized merch that I'm really excited about is on dreamseeker
Speaker 1: dot com, d R E A M S E e
Speaker 1: K e.
Speaker 3: R dot com.
Speaker 1: And like I said, the candles associated with the songs,
Speaker 1: two of three of them are out now and this
Speaker 1: month the third one will be coming out with my
Speaker 1: with my song Purple and Yeah and keep your eyes
Speaker 1: and ears open for Colors. That's the album that's coming
Speaker 1: out soon.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you for helping us all get closer to
Speaker 2: our dreams and inspiring us in this conversation it was
Speaker 2: such a pleasure. Money Movers, make sure you follow go uply,
Speaker 2: make sure you get those candles, make sure you get
Speaker 2: all the visual art and IDs like invent your life.
Speaker 3: Let's go and thank you again for your time. Thank you,
Speaker 3: thank you for this conversation.
Speaker 2: Here's a sneak peak of next week's episode.
Speaker 4: I had success very early on as a production assistant
Speaker 4: and I was like, I know everything. So that humbled me, Tanya.
Speaker 4: So when I got to do the reality show and
Speaker 4: I was like, no, I'm meant to do this, and
Speaker 4: I learned my lesson. I'm I'm never going to complain
Speaker 4: to this day. I just I don't complain. I think
Speaker 4: complaining is and I'm going to say it, complaining is
Speaker 4: telling God he got it wrong.
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