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Speaker 1: get back in here on creative control the Eyes up
Speaker 1: Here flashback sitting down through the vast Patreon database that
Speaker 1: have at bringing forward a great topic. We're gonna look
Speaker 1: at some scandals both Hollywood and I believe we're you
Speaker 1: can talk about wrestling on this one. This was a
Speaker 1: This is an early Patreon release. But we do love
Speaker 1: ourselves some celebrity scandals. Love a good scandal again. I
Speaker 1: am so invested in the Johnny and Amber story right now.
Speaker 1: Some of them just grab you, you know, and some
Speaker 1: people I care about, some people I couldn't care less about.
Speaker 1: So you know, we discuss who we think are the
Speaker 1: top dogs, the top scandals of a was it the
Speaker 1: decade or this is all time, No, this is going back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this could be the whole gamut of Hollywood, and Hollywood
Speaker 1: is We've talked about this on Eyes of Here, We've
Speaker 1: done it on the extras. Hollywood is one twisted freaking place.
Speaker 1: Like it makes. It makes even wrestling sometimes look like
Speaker 1: it's like romper room because it's so it can be
Speaker 1: like it's just you know, we're not talking. I don't
Speaker 1: even think on this when we talk about you know,
Speaker 1: like the weird like sex scandals, you know, the casting couch,
Speaker 1: you know, the Illuminati tie ins, all that crap. But
Speaker 1: it's something about Hollywood just brings out some weird ass people.
Speaker 1: And is it the fame, the money, what is you know?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I kind of feel like there are
Speaker 1: a lot of people in positions of power who have
Speaker 1: corrupt minds and feel like that they can manipulate people
Speaker 1: to do certain things, and then they get off on
Speaker 1: it just for their own pleasure, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: if you want a certain role, you have to do
Speaker 1: something like this or and if you want that role
Speaker 1: bad enough, you know, and I've talked about me before
Speaker 1: being told by you know, upper management to squirt oil
Speaker 1: on my boobs and walk into Vince's office and lean
Speaker 1: into them and I was like, hell, no, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna do that. So, you know, I guess it depends
Speaker 1: on number one, how badly you want something, but number two,
Speaker 1: where you're morale sets in and some people don't care
Speaker 1: and other people do. And I think that's why Hollywood
Speaker 1: is so strange, and certain people make it and certain
Speaker 1: people don't. And as time goes on and more people
Speaker 1: feel comfortable to start sharing more. And there's other stories
Speaker 1: and documentary you seem to bring out a lot of
Speaker 1: this stuff. We're just gonna find out more and more.
Speaker 1: But currently it's funny ties into how we're like, you know,
Speaker 1: obsessed with the Amber, heard Johnny Depp, drama trial, drama,
Speaker 1: suing case, whatever you want to say. It's it's just
Speaker 1: it's crazy. Hollywood just seems to invest it. So we
Speaker 1: look at some celebrity scandals from back in the day. Okay, well,
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Speaker 1: All right, getting back in here on Patreon the Eyes
Speaker 1: up Here Extra, just coming off of an awesome show
Speaker 1: that we did for the regular podcast world, but now
Speaker 1: coming in here to the family, to the Patreon family.
Speaker 1: For this week, we're gonna talk some scandals. Of course
Speaker 1: you know who I am. I am Chad, And of
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Speaker 1: So scandals, scandals in what realm are we talking? Are
Speaker 1: we talking about? Last week? We talked about comedy, So
Speaker 1: we talked about stand up comedy, We talked about television comedy.
Speaker 1: We talked about comedy and wrestling scandals as a whole.
Speaker 1: I think the public in general always gets into a scandal,
Speaker 1: whether it's like you know, Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky,
Speaker 1: whether it's the president right now and what they're talking
Speaker 1: about with Russia, or we talked about in wrestling. We
Speaker 1: just came off this whole discussion about Tessa Blanchard. Where
Speaker 1: do you kind of fall when there's stuff like this
Speaker 1: brewing in different Let's let's start with pop culture, because
Speaker 1: you're big into pop culture. Yeah, I am. I I
Speaker 1: hate to admit it. I like a good scandal. You
Speaker 1: know which one I followed close was Joey buttafuco Amy Fisher.
Speaker 1: I watched every Maid for TV movie about them, followed them. Yeah, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't think we had much social media now, we
Speaker 1: didn't have any kind of like you had to listen
Speaker 1: to the radio or read the paper or whatever it
Speaker 1: was on entertainment tonight, yeah, Howard Stern. That was one
Speaker 1: that I followed, And to this day, I can't understand
Speaker 1: how Mary Joe befriended Amy after this whole thing happened.
Speaker 1: Somebody shoots you in the face and then you forgive
Speaker 1: them and you're friends with them, or they sleep with
Speaker 1: your husband and they shoot you in the face. How
Speaker 1: about that and then you forgive them. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't think money. Wasn't what money, I don't know,
Speaker 1: book deals, you know, interviews, well, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: just heard that they she forgave her and welcomed her
Speaker 1: back and into I don't know, crazy stuff like I
Speaker 1: don't think that I could be able to turn the
Speaker 1: other cheek. I mean, our religion says, well, my religion
Speaker 1: says you should turn the other cheek. But something like
Speaker 1: that is a little too much for for even me
Speaker 1: to forgive. Uh. You know, It's but watching it unfold
Speaker 1: and all the craziness that went along with the story,
Speaker 1: it's like, is this real life or is this just
Speaker 1: drama for television? You know? But it was real life
Speaker 1: and it's crazy, But it became like it was drama
Speaker 1: for television. And at that time, specifically, you had the
Speaker 1: Buttafuco stuff, but he also had the Tanya Harding Nancy
Speaker 1: Carrigan stuff. She's another one. It was like, but it
Speaker 1: was like competing. It was like WCW and WWF it wars. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I look at Tanya Harding now because she's she's
Speaker 1: still trying to be out there doing things Like I
Speaker 1: watch Food Network and I watch was she on Worst
Speaker 1: Cooks in America? I think that's the show she was on.
Speaker 1: That's one of my favorite shows. And she she seems
Speaker 1: like such a nice lady. But I'm like, she tried
Speaker 1: to like kill, like break the kneecaps of another person.
Speaker 1: Like I know her husband was involved at the time,
Speaker 1: but even still, that's crazy. Like I would never like
Speaker 1: being a performer. I would never say to myself, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go out there and I'm going to intentionally hurt
Speaker 1: someone so i can move up the ladder more and
Speaker 1: she'll be out of the pan. I've never ever intentionally
Speaker 1: hurt somebody. The only time I have ever stiffed someone
Speaker 1: is if I got stiffed first, right, And that was rare.
Speaker 1: It has happened, but it was rare, and we'll leave
Speaker 1: it at that. And you can use your imagination. But
Speaker 1: thinking about, you know, people intentionally hurting other people and
Speaker 1: on such a huge platform, how are you going to
Speaker 1: get away with it? That's another thing, like did she
Speaker 1: really think she was just gonna walk off Scott free?
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I enjoyed. I enjoy a good scandal,
Speaker 1: not gonna lie. I don't like to see people heard, obviously,
Speaker 1: but you know, watching it unfold in the aftermath is
Speaker 1: intriguing to me. Yeah, you always wanted those the lifetime
Speaker 1: movies that would come after those kinds of scandals, right,
Speaker 1: like how you're saying about the Joey Bodafuco thing. There's
Speaker 1: like nine hundred movies that. Yeah, I watched mostly all
Speaker 1: of them because I said, well, this pe probably has
Speaker 1: a different point of view than this one. So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna compare the two because one had to listen Milano
Speaker 1: as Amy Fisher. I forget what the other one was,
Speaker 1: because I think all three major networks had a movie
Speaker 1: about it. There was I just watched the movie recently.
Speaker 1: It was an older movie. Oh it's okay. So for
Speaker 1: our horror movie buffs out there, it's a movie called Society. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's way twisted, way messed up. I don't think you'd
Speaker 1: like it. But so those you know, looking up the
Speaker 1: actresses in the movie, which is all you do now
Speaker 1: when you watch a movie is you're on your phone
Speaker 1: looking at where where have I seen this person before?
Speaker 1: And this one model who I don't know if she
Speaker 1: was a playmate or something earlier in her career she
Speaker 1: transitioned to acting. She played Amy Fisher in one of
Speaker 1: the Amy Fischer movies. I was like, that is so random,
Speaker 1: like this b movie and she played Amy Fisher. So
Speaker 1: there you go, tie it into another one. I know.
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of a lot of scandals out there.
Speaker 1: There's there's stuff that I don't even know existed. My
Speaker 1: husband he reads, uh it's a lawyer. I don't know
Speaker 1: what the site is called. But he's a lawyer. But
Speaker 1: he has inside in film people, and he puts up
Speaker 1: blind hints, crazy days and nights that might be it. Yeah, OK,
Speaker 1: so he puts up the blind and then like four
Speaker 1: weeks later he'll be blind items and then you can
Speaker 1: get together. Yeah. Well that's pretty smart because it makes
Speaker 1: you keep coming back to the site to see who
Speaker 1: it was. Yeah. So that's how he gets his views,
Speaker 1: but I get hot because I'm like, well, who the
Speaker 1: hell is this guy and how does he know everything
Speaker 1: about everyone? Oh, there was one I just saw that
Speaker 1: was revealed over you know, over that span where we
Speaker 1: talked about a couple of weeks ago when we were
Speaker 1: talking about music. Actually that was really early when we
Speaker 1: started Patreon and I mentioned the movie Body Double. I
Speaker 1: mentioned that in some realm the actor from Body Double
Speaker 1: like stumbled into a scandal, like seeing somebody doing something
Speaker 1: inappropriate and then was buried because of it, And like
Speaker 1: that's the kind of stuff anything related to Hollywood, I'm
Speaker 1: all on board because Hollywood is such a fucked up
Speaker 1: place that you see some of the stuff that goes
Speaker 1: on there behind the scenes, and you always say, what
Speaker 1: happened to this guy? Where did this guy go? You know? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and crazy days and nights. The blind items, Man, if
Speaker 1: you can piece them together, you get yourself one hell
Speaker 1: of a puzzle. Yeah, because he had showed me. I'm
Speaker 1: really into the beauty community. Like I watch so many
Speaker 1: YouTubers and they do makeup tutorials and they're in you know,
Speaker 1: they make makeup and there's a lot of war within
Speaker 1: that community. They get they go at it. This YouTuber
Speaker 1: goes after this YouTuber. And there's one YouTuber that I
Speaker 1: really really like. His name is Jeffrey Starr and he
Speaker 1: is a gay man and he's been living with a
Speaker 1: younger guy for like five years. It's his boyfriend and
Speaker 1: they just broke up. And I was telling my husband,
Speaker 1: I said, oh, I'm so sad Jeffrey start and his
Speaker 1: boyfriend broke up and he sticks his phone in my
Speaker 1: face and it's that crazy days and Nights sight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a blind item and it said this guy
Speaker 1: is so sick of living a lie. Apparently he's not
Speaker 1: gay and he just did it for the money. Oh wow,
Speaker 1: but it was a five year relationship and I'm like,
Speaker 1: come on, how does he know that? But it was
Speaker 1: on that was one of the blind items. It was,
Speaker 1: and then it came out as it was Jeffrey Starr
Speaker 1: and Ethan whatever his name was. But yeah, put he
Speaker 1: knows everything about everyone, apparently, this lawyer guy. So I
Speaker 1: don't know how he finds it out. But yeah, you
Speaker 1: can do a whole show about those topics because there's
Speaker 1: a million of them. Every week something comes down. The
Speaker 1: scandal with the colleges, I am so Lori Laughlin and
Speaker 1: oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, Becky does not
Speaker 1: belong in jail. Oh can you imagine? Oh Man just
Speaker 1: picked slaught her in the Orange is the new Black right,
Speaker 1: And you see she looks horrible nowadays. Have you haven't
Speaker 1: seen her since this all started? So when this first started,
Speaker 1: she was fresh faced, beautiful. I just saw a picture
Speaker 1: of her yesterday. She looks like she's been through the mill,
Speaker 1: haggard as all hell. She's timeless. She looked the same
Speaker 1: as she did in nineteen nineties. She's beautiful, beautiful, but
Speaker 1: she's got the weight of the world on her shoulder.
Speaker 1: She's in jail. She might be in jail for I
Speaker 1: don't even know how many more years. I'll have to
Speaker 1: check with the lawyer, because I'm sure he'll tell me.
Speaker 1: But you know, that's something that I was just like,
Speaker 1: how was he Backy in jail? What did she do?
Speaker 1: You know that no one is safe, especially like you said,
Speaker 1: in Hollywood. It's it's there's a lot of things that
Speaker 1: that people think that they can get away with because
Speaker 1: of their status, but no one's safe. See that didn't
Speaker 1: bother me that one. The admission scandal, it didn't bother me. Really,
Speaker 1: it didn't bother me, because I mean, people with money.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Oh, I'm so shocked that they would pay
Speaker 1: and and uh deceive to uh well to get ahead.
Speaker 1: Oh I'm really I'm really surprised you that our kids
Speaker 1: are working their asses off in school and doing it
Speaker 1: the right way. But then somebody rich comes along and
Speaker 1: their kid can just get into an Ivy league college.
Speaker 1: That doesn't bother you. It didn't bother me, It really didn't.
Speaker 1: It didn't. And I don't know if I'm desensitized to
Speaker 1: certain things because of not being around rich kids growing up,
Speaker 1: but being around people who had a certain level of privilege,
Speaker 1: you know, and knowing that they could get things done
Speaker 1: because whoever they were related to had money and they
Speaker 1: got some per It just didn't. It didn't rock me
Speaker 1: in a way that it rocked a lot of people.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe it's just because I'm still in
Speaker 1: a kind of a sheltered world when it comes to
Speaker 1: where my kids are at. But I think because your
Speaker 1: kids are still so young too, Yeah, maybe maybe that's it.
Speaker 1: I just look at the big picture and I'm just like,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of my children and being in high school,
Speaker 1: working their asses off to try and if they want
Speaker 1: to go to college, I'm not going to force them.
Speaker 1: But if that's what the path they choose, they really
Speaker 1: have to work hard at it. Whereas, oh, this bitch
Speaker 1: has a million dollars laying around, I'm just gonna let
Speaker 1: my daughter go to an IVY school and pay somebody
Speaker 1: let her in. But how about like the effort they
Speaker 1: went to to like stage the pictures, like that's that's
Speaker 1: craftsmanship there. It might be craftsmanship, but it's it's still dishonest,
Speaker 1: and it's still shitty. And you know, money talks, and
Speaker 1: unfortunately for us that do not have as much money
Speaker 1: as they have, we have to work hard. So yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right, No, you're right. I agree with you on that,
Speaker 1: that's for sure. But that just didn't bother me. Now,
Speaker 1: I mentioned it on the regular episode when we're talking
Speaker 1: about Tessa Blancherd and we'll get to wrestling in a
Speaker 1: minute here. But Major League Baseball's got a scandal presently
Speaker 1: about cheating and competitive advantage and cameras being installed and
Speaker 1: a system devised where guys are banging trash cans with
Speaker 1: bats or now there's rumors of buzzing system, either on
Speaker 1: an Apple watch or maybe like a pad or something
Speaker 1: on a chest that had a wire in it that
Speaker 1: buzzed when a certain pitch was going to come, so
Speaker 1: you knew what to expect. And guys have lost their jobs.
Speaker 1: And the Mets three weeks out from spring training had
Speaker 1: to fire their manager who they just hired because he
Speaker 1: was named in the document that was given to Major
Speaker 1: League or given by Major League Baseball to all the
Speaker 1: teams saying he was a part of the scheme. And
Speaker 1: that's the only group that was involved was the Mets,
Speaker 1: or no, see, the Mets weren't involved. It was the
Speaker 1: Houston Astros and possibly the Boston Red Sox, and they're
Speaker 1: saying some other teams as well. But the Astros in
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen won the World Series. They were unhittable or
Speaker 1: they were unstoppable. They were hitting like ridiculously. Their pitchers had,
Speaker 1: you know, their best stuff ever, and one of their
Speaker 1: guys won the MVP. It was insane. But now it's
Speaker 1: coming out there wearing possible buzzers and Apple watches that
Speaker 1: you know would vibrate when a fastball's coming, you know
Speaker 1: what to come, boom, hit the ball. Oh yeah, so
Speaker 1: both teams involved, Like, were they each other hints? No?
Speaker 1: So so was the Astros had this really like sophisticated
Speaker 1: system set up where they had the center field camera,
Speaker 1: which is what is you know, broadcasted during the game.
Speaker 1: They had a feed for that outside the dugout basically
Speaker 1: in the tunnel or something, and somebody would be relaying
Speaker 1: what was gonna be thrown. So the catcher throws down
Speaker 1: at two. Okay, curveball, right, buzz one two for curveball,
Speaker 1: don't swing, you know what I mean, like something like that. Yes,
Speaker 1: So the Major League Baseball's Commissioner's office came up with
Speaker 1: this huge document to say, you know, this is who
Speaker 1: was involved with it, this is who participated in it,
Speaker 1: and they named the Mets manager who they just hired. Wow,
Speaker 1: you had to step down because of all the stuff
Speaker 1: going on, and it's like we're three weeks out from
Speaker 1: the season that's gonna start spring training and now my
Speaker 1: team doesn't have a manager. Well, why would you put
Speaker 1: yourself in that position when you just got a good job.
Speaker 1: Why would this he step down? He stepped down to
Speaker 1: take the heat off of the organization. So since the
Speaker 1: Mets were not involved with it, and he was on
Speaker 1: that team in twenty seventeen, He's like, well, I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna step away so you guys don't have to hear
Speaker 1: the bullshit and make it a distraction for the rest
Speaker 1: of the year. And it sucks because you know, I
Speaker 1: was looking forward to him leading the team. But it
Speaker 1: comes in all shapes and sizes quickly. We'll move over
Speaker 1: to wrestling. So we talked about Tessa at length on
Speaker 1: the On the Regular podcast, but in this one, I
Speaker 1: mean wrestling scandals. Hello, the ring boy scandal from the
Speaker 1: early nineties. Do you remember that, Holy shit, when wrestling
Speaker 1: was on Donahue and Larry King and oh my god,
Speaker 1: I mean me being ten eleven years old and my dad,
Speaker 1: you know, telling me like this is a terrible business
Speaker 1: that you love. And the ring Boy scandal was that
Speaker 1: former WWF ring announcer Mel Phillips, who I don't you
Speaker 1: if you didn't watch any probably I didn't watch. No.
Speaker 1: He had a he had a thing for young men,
Speaker 1: right and the ring crew, and basically they would they
Speaker 1: would bring on teens and younger kids kind of with like,
Speaker 1: you know, no direction mentor them, but they would be
Speaker 1: part of the quote cream team and they use these
Speaker 1: kids and it was a huge thing. It was they
Speaker 1: and it exposed a whole whirlwind of other possible propositioning
Speaker 1: that was going on throughout the company. Terry Garvin, who
Speaker 1: was an agent at the time, was fired because of
Speaker 1: if Pat Patterson stepped down as assistant booker to Vince
Speaker 1: because well he was He left for a few years
Speaker 1: because he was named in it. And uh yeah, mel
Speaker 1: Phillips has never been seen again in the business. But
Speaker 1: this was huge. Wait a minute, So these young kids
Speaker 1: were being bored in because it's w w F, who
Speaker 1: was bigger than w w F A ninety one, and
Speaker 1: they all aspired to be wrestlers, but they had to
Speaker 1: be on ring crew and then not necessarily wrestlers, just
Speaker 1: kids that were basically quote given jobs to be on
Speaker 1: So they're on ring crew, but they had to perform
Speaker 1: sexual acts to the men to stay on ring crew.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was to stay on the
Speaker 1: ring crew, but they were forced to perform I've heard life.
Speaker 1: If you ever have some time, you're going on your flight,
Speaker 1: you want to throw on a YouTube video, watch the
Speaker 1: Phil Donahue that Vince is on and a bunch of
Speaker 1: the guys and then it just it really just like
Speaker 1: we talked about with Tessa, was a snowball effect. All
Speaker 1: these other things started coming to light. Didn't Vence deny
Speaker 1: it or Vince said, you know, obviously he was in
Speaker 1: privitus to things. They let go, They let go of
Speaker 1: the you know, the the ring announcer, they let go
Speaker 1: of the executives that were involved, and they're you know,
Speaker 1: actively investigating, you know, but also piggybacked the steroid scandal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember that. Yeah, Well, to my knowledge even today,
Speaker 1: there are people who are exempt from it, and there
Speaker 1: are people who will be tested every day of their life. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's a pick and choose. It's who's in with
Speaker 1: the office and who isn't. That's my opinion. I don't know,
Speaker 1: because you know, usually you don't see the guys that
Speaker 1: are super duper over getting pinched for anything, right, And
Speaker 1: that looked tremendous, you know what I mean. Yeah, So, uh,
Speaker 1: that whole scandal, well that was in the early nineties.
Speaker 1: It was really you know, it was based off of
Speaker 1: hul Cogan, you know, and it was hul Cogan was
Speaker 1: on Ourcinio Hall. They said, hey, did you take steroids?
Speaker 1: And he said, you know, look, I took them, but
Speaker 1: I took them when it was legal. And that was
Speaker 1: when the investigation into doctor Zaharian, who was the Hershey Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: He would write you to scripts for whatever whatever you need.
Speaker 1: Doctor Zaharian was the one who took care of business.
Speaker 1: And it just again it's snowball fell into the time
Speaker 1: of the ring Boy scandal. And you know, it's a
Speaker 1: miracle that they made it to those Monday night wars
Speaker 1: because I'm shocked they didn't get forced to shut down
Speaker 1: at one point in the nineties because they were getting crushed.
Speaker 1: The Ringwoy scandal sounds like the Catholic church scandal with it.
Speaker 1: It really multiple You're right, yes, you're absolutely, But that's
Speaker 1: what it reminds me of, right, and that we didn't
Speaker 1: even talk. We just talked about the pop culture and
Speaker 1: sports wrestling. But that's like you know, for Catholics. For me,
Speaker 1: it's the ultimately that turns my stomach to the point
Speaker 1: that I have literally besides that, I mean, there's other factors,
Speaker 1: but now I have been, you know, a Catholic my
Speaker 1: whole life, and now I'm questioning what I want to
Speaker 1: do religion wise, because of everything that's going down in
Speaker 1: the church. Like if you just stop and look at
Speaker 1: all the scandals and look at how our pope is
Speaker 1: handling things, it literally makes my stomach turn. And at
Speaker 1: first I was all about this new pope. I was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: he's he's cool, you know, he gets it, he's hip,
Speaker 1: and he used to be a balancer and blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: And the more I find out about this pope, the
Speaker 1: more I dislike him, and the more I do not
Speaker 1: want to be associated with the church. Yeah, I agree,
Speaker 1: I'm not a big fact period. Yeah. It makes me
Speaker 1: so sad because going to church for me was somewhere
Speaker 1: where I felt good. When I left, it gave me
Speaker 1: a sense of not so much pride, but it just
Speaker 1: gave me a sense of calmness. It made me feel
Speaker 1: good about myself. And now I don't even want to
Speaker 1: be a part of the Catholic Church. Like I'm reevaluating.
Speaker 1: I always have my faith, but I can't see myself
Speaker 1: going back to that church. So I have I'm right now,
Speaker 1: I guess I'm non denominational. I'm still gonna get my
Speaker 1: kids all the sacraments in the Church, because let's face it,
Speaker 1: if we meet our maker and everything is true, I
Speaker 1: want them to be protected, you know what, I you
Speaker 1: they're like France scene. You didn't take care of your children.
Speaker 1: Your child's not confirmed your child. No, I'm getting all
Speaker 1: the sacraments for my kids and I'll let them decide
Speaker 1: what they want to be when they're older. But right
Speaker 1: now I'm really struggling with do I go back to
Speaker 1: the Catholic Church or do I look for something else
Speaker 1: to follow because the scandals are outrageous. Yeah, it's dropping
Speaker 1: in in Catholicism these days, and it just makes you wonder,
Speaker 1: like why did I follow it all these years? Just
Speaker 1: I say with that, just keep your faith and do
Speaker 1: you do you? You know, yeah you do? And let
Speaker 1: the other stuff be its own entity, and uh, you
Speaker 1: know it's a shame, but you got to turn your
Speaker 1: blinders on and bring the shades down and just do
Speaker 1: you you know, you worry about what's going to get
Speaker 1: you through it, and you still have a belief you
Speaker 1: believe it? I do, I do. I just I like
Speaker 1: I like being a part of something that I believe in,
Speaker 1: and I did believe in the Catholic Church. And now
Speaker 1: I'm just like, there's a lot of stuff going on.
Speaker 1: What do I do? So, you know, I really have
Speaker 1: to think about it. But really ended heavy? Geez you really? Yeah,
Speaker 1: well it's a scandal. Yeah, it was real. It was
Speaker 1: really like a heavy one. That's a scandal. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so my last one. Yeah, Matt Hardy and Edge and Leada,
Speaker 1: do you remember that one? Let's end on it. I
Speaker 1: remember that, of course, I remember that. Actually. I remember
Speaker 1: in two thousand and six when I worked for WWE
Speaker 1: that time, I was in catering and Amy Lyda came
Speaker 1: and sat down next to me and we were just
Speaker 1: talking amongst each other, and I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: how you are you feeling these days? And she's just like,
Speaker 1: it's rough, and she she told me she's like, man,
Speaker 1: she goes that people are relentless around here, and she
Speaker 1: was feeling the wrath, you know, And I was just like,
Speaker 1: I can't even imagine. So you put yourself in that predicament.
Speaker 1: I understand that, but it's like it's heavy stuff, you know,
Speaker 1: and it's not like people do it all the time
Speaker 1: and nobody sees it because you know, men cheat on
Speaker 1: their wives or people have affairs or whatever. This was
Speaker 1: a real life situation that was brought into a storyline
Speaker 1: for a world to see. So it was really I've
Speaker 1: already got fired over it. In the whole nine yards.
Speaker 1: It was insane. I know, I know, it's that's something
Speaker 1: that should have been left in private in my opinion,
Speaker 1: But you know, people, you know, yeah, you give give
Speaker 1: a tip of a cap that they can all work together.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. It's difficult. Uh, you know, it's it's difficult
Speaker 1: when you're in front of a crowd. Like for me,
Speaker 1: I took it with a grain of salt because the
Speaker 1: things that they chanted I knew weren't true. I never
Speaker 1: was a crack where I never had herpes. I didn't
Speaker 1: have HIV like thank god. You know, but when you're
Speaker 1: a public figure like Leita and you're being you know,
Speaker 1: people are saying that stuff to you and it's true,
Speaker 1: that has a different effect on you. Because how do
Speaker 1: you think she felt being out there and having to
Speaker 1: be ridiculed for twenty minutes straight? Yeah, that's that's hard.
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's a hard pill to swallow. And god,
Speaker 1: I mean she she did it with grace, she handled it.
Speaker 1: But and as we know, sometimes We've said it a
Speaker 1: million times with fans can't always designate between the real
Speaker 1: life and the storyline. Legit edge of heel and on TV,
Speaker 1: this happens, Matt Hardy legit a baby face on TV
Speaker 1: gets fired. Yeah, you know over Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's like you get your heat as a heel. I
Speaker 1: loved being but can you imagine it? Everything is true
Speaker 1: and you're just you know, you're a woman and people
Speaker 1: are belittling you when you have to take it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh I couldn't even imagine it. So, yeah, that that
Speaker 1: was a bad one. And I felt so a bit
Speaker 1: from that because not such a good guy. Yeah, such
Speaker 1: a nice guy. So yeah, oh wow, that's a good
Speaker 1: topic today. What do we miss here? Come on, drop
Speaker 1: us some other scandals. Doesn't have to be wrestling related.
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