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Speaker 1: would bring on teens and younger kids kind of with like,

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00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 1: you know, no direction mentor them, but they would be

426
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 1: part of the quote cream team and they use these

427
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:59,919
Speaker 1: kids and it was a huge thing. It was they

428
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 1: and it exposed a whole whirlwind of other possible propositioning

429
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 1: that was going on throughout the company. Terry Garvin, who

430
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 1: was an agent at the time, was fired because of

431
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 1: if Pat Patterson stepped down as assistant booker to Vince

432
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 1: because well he was He left for a few years

433
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 1: because he was named in it. And uh yeah, mel

434
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 1: Phillips has never been seen again in the business. But

435
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 1: this was huge. Wait a minute, So these young kids

436
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:35,400
Speaker 1: were being bored in because it's w w F, who

437
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 1: was bigger than w w F A ninety one, and

438
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 1: they all aspired to be wrestlers, but they had to

439
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 1: be on ring crew and then not necessarily wrestlers, just

440
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 1: kids that were basically quote given jobs to be on

441
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 1: So they're on ring crew, but they had to perform

442
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,400
Speaker 1: sexual acts to the men to stay on ring crew.

443
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was to stay on the

444
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: ring crew, but they were forced to perform I've heard life.

445
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 1: If you ever have some time, you're going on your flight,

446
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,919
Speaker 1: you want to throw on a YouTube video, watch the

447
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 1: Phil Donahue that Vince is on and a bunch of

448
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 1: the guys and then it just it really just like

449
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 1: we talked about with Tessa, was a snowball effect. All

450
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,959
Speaker 1: these other things started coming to light. Didn't Vence deny

451
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: it or Vince said, you know, obviously he was in

452
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 1: privitus to things. They let go, They let go of

453
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 1: the you know, the the ring announcer, they let go

454
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 1: of the executives that were involved, and they're you know,

455
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 1: actively investigating, you know, but also piggybacked the steroid scandal. Yeah,

456
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 1: I remember that. Yeah, Well, to my knowledge even today,

457
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 1: there are people who are exempt from it, and there

458
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 1: are people who will be tested every day of their life. Yeah,

459
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: it's it's a pick and choose. It's who's in with

460
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 1: the office and who isn't. That's my opinion. I don't know,

461
00:25:55,960 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 1: because you know, usually you don't see the guys that

462
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 1: are super duper over getting pinched for anything, right, And

463
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 1: that looked tremendous, you know what I mean. Yeah, So, uh,

464
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 1: that whole scandal, well that was in the early nineties.

465
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: It was really you know, it was based off of

466
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: hul Cogan, you know, and it was hul Cogan was

467
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 1: on Ourcinio Hall. They said, hey, did you take steroids?

468
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 1: And he said, you know, look, I took them, but

469
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 1: I took them when it was legal. And that was

470
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 1: when the investigation into doctor Zaharian, who was the Hershey Pennsylvania.

471
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 1: He would write you to scripts for whatever whatever you need.

472
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: Doctor Zaharian was the one who took care of business.

473
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 1: And it just again it's snowball fell into the time

474
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 1: of the ring Boy scandal. And you know, it's a

475
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: miracle that they made it to those Monday night wars

476
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,400
Speaker 1: because I'm shocked they didn't get forced to shut down

477
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: at one point in the nineties because they were getting crushed.

478
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 1: The Ringwoy scandal sounds like the Catholic church scandal with it.

479
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,719
Speaker 1: It really multiple You're right, yes, you're absolutely, But that's

480
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: what it reminds me of, right, and that we didn't

481
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,199
Speaker 1: even talk. We just talked about the pop culture and

482
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: sports wrestling. But that's like you know, for Catholics. For me,

483
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:12,479
Speaker 1: it's the ultimately that turns my stomach to the point

484
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: that I have literally besides that, I mean, there's other factors,

485
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: but now I have been, you know, a Catholic my

486
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: whole life, and now I'm questioning what I want to

487
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: do religion wise, because of everything that's going down in

488
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 1: the church. Like if you just stop and look at

489
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 1: all the scandals and look at how our pope is

490
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:41,199
Speaker 1: handling things, it literally makes my stomach turn. And at

491
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 1: first I was all about this new pope. I was like, Oh,

492
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 1: he's he's cool, you know, he gets it, he's hip,

493
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: and he used to be a balancer and blah blah blah.

494
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 1: And the more I find out about this pope, the

495
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,439
Speaker 1: more I dislike him, and the more I do not

496
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 1: want to be associated with the church. Yeah, I agree,

497
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: I'm not a big fact period. Yeah. It makes me

498
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: so sad because going to church for me was somewhere

499
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: where I felt good. When I left, it gave me

500
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: a sense of not so much pride, but it just

501
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,400
Speaker 1: gave me a sense of calmness. It made me feel

502
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: good about myself. And now I don't even want to

503
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: be a part of the Catholic Church. Like I'm reevaluating.

504
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 1: I always have my faith, but I can't see myself

505
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: going back to that church. So I have I'm right now,

506
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 1: I guess I'm non denominational. I'm still gonna get my

507
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: kids all the sacraments in the Church, because let's face it,

508
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: if we meet our maker and everything is true, I

509
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: want them to be protected, you know what, I you

510
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: they're like France scene. You didn't take care of your children.

511
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: Your child's not confirmed your child. No, I'm getting all

512
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: the sacraments for my kids and I'll let them decide

513
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 1: what they want to be when they're older. But right

514
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: now I'm really struggling with do I go back to

515
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 1: the Catholic Church or do I look for something else

516
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: to follow because the scandals are outrageous. Yeah, it's dropping

517
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: in in Catholicism these days, and it just makes you wonder,

518
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: like why did I follow it all these years? Just

519
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: I say with that, just keep your faith and do

520
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: you do you? You know, yeah you do? And let

521
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: the other stuff be its own entity, and uh, you

522
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: know it's a shame, but you got to turn your

523
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: blinders on and bring the shades down and just do

524
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: you you know, you worry about what's going to get

525
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: you through it, and you still have a belief you

526
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: believe it? I do, I do. I just I like

527
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: I like being a part of something that I believe in,

528
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 1: and I did believe in the Catholic Church. And now

529
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 1: I'm just like, there's a lot of stuff going on.

530
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: What do I do? So, you know, I really have

531
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: to think about it. But really ended heavy? Geez you really? Yeah,

532
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: well it's a scandal. Yeah, it was real. It was

533
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: really like a heavy one. That's a scandal. Yeah, okay,

534
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: so my last one. Yeah, Matt Hardy and Edge and Leada,

535
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: do you remember that one? Let's end on it. I

536
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: remember that, of course, I remember that. Actually. I remember

537
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: in two thousand and six when I worked for WWE

538
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: that time, I was in catering and Amy Lyda came

539
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: and sat down next to me and we were just

540
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: talking amongst each other, and I was like, you know,

541
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: how you are you feeling these days? And she's just like,

542
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 1: it's rough, and she she told me she's like, man,

543
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 1: she goes that people are relentless around here, and she

544
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: was feeling the wrath, you know, And I was just like,

545
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: I can't even imagine. So you put yourself in that predicament.

546
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: I understand that, but it's like it's heavy stuff, you know,

547
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: and it's not like people do it all the time

548
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 1: and nobody sees it because you know, men cheat on

549
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: their wives or people have affairs or whatever. This was

550
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: a real life situation that was brought into a storyline

551
00:30:55,360 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: for a world to see. So it was really I've

552
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: already got fired over it. In the whole nine yards.

553
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: It was insane. I know, I know, it's that's something

554
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: that should have been left in private in my opinion,

555
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: But you know, people, you know, yeah, you give give

556
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: a tip of a cap that they can all work together.

557
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: That's crazy. It's difficult. Uh, you know, it's it's difficult

558
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: when you're in front of a crowd. Like for me,

559
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: I took it with a grain of salt because the

560
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: things that they chanted I knew weren't true. I never

561
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: was a crack where I never had herpes. I didn't

562
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: have HIV like thank god. You know, but when you're

563
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: a public figure like Leita and you're being you know,

564
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: people are saying that stuff to you and it's true,

565
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: that has a different effect on you. Because how do

566
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: you think she felt being out there and having to

567
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: be ridiculed for twenty minutes straight? Yeah, that's that's hard.

568
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's a hard pill to swallow. And god,

569
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: I mean she she did it with grace, she handled it.

570
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: But and as we know, sometimes We've said it a

571
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: million times with fans can't always designate between the real

572
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: life and the storyline. Legit edge of heel and on TV,

573
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: this happens, Matt Hardy legit a baby face on TV

574
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: gets fired. Yeah, you know over Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

575
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: It's like you get your heat as a heel. I

576
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: loved being but can you imagine it? Everything is true

577
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: and you're just you know, you're a woman and people

578
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: are belittling you when you have to take it. Yeah.

579
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: Oh I couldn't even imagine it. So, yeah, that that

580
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 1: was a bad one. And I felt so a bit

581
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: from that because not such a good guy. Yeah, such

582
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: a nice guy. So yeah, oh wow, that's a good

583
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: topic today. What do we miss here? Come on, drop

584
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: us some other scandals. Doesn't have to be wrestling related.

585
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: Just for our Patreon subscribers, our Patreon peeps, you know,

586
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: drop us a line here on the bottom. Let's hear

587
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: some more. Yeah, tell us what you want to talk

588
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: about and other topics. We need to know. We need feedback.

589
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: So if you want to talk about something or you

590
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: want to let us talk about something, leave it in

591
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: the comments and we will be sure to pick it

592
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Speaker 1: up on the next episode and the next one, we'll

593
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: do the Extreme Extra and we'll relive something from ECW.

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Speaker 1: We'll do it up good. We'll figure something out, we'll

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Speaker 1: get it going. We'll get the brain we'll get the

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00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: brain trust together and we'll figure that out. Well for

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Speaker 1: the Queen of Extreme Francine who is on her way

598
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: to a magical, wonderful weekend. Here, let's get it going

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Speaker 1: and let's start it right. We got you. This is Chad.

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Speaker 1: I'll catch on