WEBVTT - Episode 30: 2024 Golf Checklist

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<v Speaker 1>The guys from Ping. They've kind of showed me how

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<v Speaker 1>much dequiment matters. I just love that I can hit

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<v Speaker 1>any shot I kind of want.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna be able to tell some fun stories about

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<v Speaker 2>what goes on here to help golfers play better golf.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the Ping proven Grounds Podcast. I'm Shane Bacon.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Marty Jerts and Marty. Happy New Year. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what we gotta start with, right? Do you got a resolution?

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<v Speaker 1>You got you got something you're gonna You're gonna set

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<v Speaker 1>your goals and eyes and mind and body ad at

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Shane, I used to be super big into the resolutions,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like and for me it was always removing

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<v Speaker 2>something was like a good resolution. Like one year being

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<v Speaker 2>from Arizona, Man, I love chips and guac. I had

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<v Speaker 2>to give up chips. I was like, I couldn't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you do the whole year? Did you did you

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<v Speaker 2>do the whole year and not do it? I did

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<v Speaker 2>the entire year?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness.

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<v Speaker 2>One year. I regret this, but I gave up coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>I like switched to tea and then I had a

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<v Speaker 2>I did it literally for the whole year, but I

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<v Speaker 2>rebounded on that now, so I'm not doing that. But

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<v Speaker 2>I think this year, you know, I think it's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be maybe because over forty is maybe maybe diet wise,

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<v Speaker 2>get a little more protein in the diet. That's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be my big thing for for twenty four. How about you,

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<v Speaker 2>what are you dot on your list?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm adding an extra leg and lower body workout a week. So,

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<v Speaker 1>as you know, Marty, it's super easy to do kind

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<v Speaker 1>of beach body workout and go do arms and things

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<v Speaker 1>like that. And I think at times I get a

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<v Speaker 1>little lazy with going to the gym and focusing solely

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<v Speaker 1>on lower body, like spend fifty minutes or an hour

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<v Speaker 1>entirely on legs and glutes and things like that. So

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<v Speaker 1>my goal, and I've been working with a trainer on

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<v Speaker 1>kind of getting nice a plan for this is I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just going to introduce a lot more leg workouts. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>you said it, Marty, I just turned forty, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>late last year, and these are the types of things

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<v Speaker 1>we've got to be thinking about. And so, yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>funny you and I are focused on the same stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like diet and gym or basically what you have

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<v Speaker 1>to have to do when you when you when you

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<v Speaker 1>flip the calendar over, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. But I think it's good. I mean, when

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking about what we're going to talk about some

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<v Speaker 2>golf things here is just those habits. I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>a really big deal, is to at the beginning of

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<v Speaker 2>the year, is there's a good time to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>establish what your habits are going to be for the year,

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<v Speaker 2>knowing that life's going to come your way, things are

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<v Speaker 2>going to get in the way, But what are those

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<v Speaker 2>habits you can go back to? And yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 2>we've feeling good about both of ours, Shane.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you know, Marty, it's interesting. I mean I remember,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, doing like early Clubhouse podcast, you know ten,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, seven, eight years ago, and I would always

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<v Speaker 1>ask players about goals because if you remember, Justin Thomas

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<v Speaker 1>made it famous where he would post that notes app

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the year on what his goals

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<v Speaker 1>were in which one he's achieved. And I think this

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<v Speaker 1>is actually something that's pretty important for even everyday golfers.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's easy to say I'm going to spend

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more time on the range this year.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna spend a little bit more time on my

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<v Speaker 1>short game, but to actually write out goals for your

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<v Speaker 1>golf game. As much as we're all obsessed with the

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<v Speaker 1>game and obsessed with playing, what are you actually trying

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<v Speaker 1>to achieve in twenty four?

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<v Speaker 2>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>For me with my golf game, Marty, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>just simply try to play more tournaments. Not necessarily, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>try to do more whatever. I hope that comes with

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<v Speaker 1>the territory. But I'm just going to try to spend

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more time in my calendar if it

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<v Speaker 1>allows that. Obviously I've got two little kids and I've

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<v Speaker 1>got jobs, but I'm going to try to just play

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<v Speaker 1>if I can play in more golf tournaments, get more

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<v Speaker 1>competitive in that space. Because I had a good twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three in terms of tournament golf. But as I

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<v Speaker 1>look back on last year and kind of think about

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<v Speaker 1>this year, I wish I would have played more tournaments.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's kind of one of my big focuses for

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<v Speaker 1>next year. For this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, Shan, I love that I did that. In

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three. I recommitted because I had an off year

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty two, didn't play many tournaments at all for

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<v Speaker 2>me and I up. I played in all of pretty

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<v Speaker 2>much all of our section events in twenty three and

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<v Speaker 2>it worked. It forced me to kind of be a

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<v Speaker 2>little more dissi planned in my practice, and then you

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<v Speaker 2>get the feedback playing in the tournament golf. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you can be playing good like you did this year,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you play big tournament, then your next you

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<v Speaker 2>low your calendar. Your next one is not for six weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's tough. It's tough to keep that momentum going.

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<v Speaker 1>I think about that on tour lot with the pro golfers.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, some of the guys that have great ends

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<v Speaker 1>to the season. You think about the way Victor obviously

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<v Speaker 1>played at the end of twenty three and into the

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<v Speaker 1>Ryder Cup and things like that, and everybody reacts the

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<v Speaker 1>same way, Wow, Victor's gonna win a major championship. He's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he's obviously on the precipice of those types

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<v Speaker 1>of things. And you said it, Marty, I mean, the

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<v Speaker 1>gap from the end of that part of their season

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<v Speaker 1>until when they ramp things back up again in January,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you think about the big events early in

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<v Speaker 1>the season, and then you think about that first major championship.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what are you talking six seven months? For

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<v Speaker 1>those players, it's remembering what I did well. And for

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<v Speaker 1>Victor it was obviously everything. I mean, he hit the

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<v Speaker 1>ball great and he putted great, but remembering what those

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<v Speaker 1>fields were like and applying them in your practice and

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<v Speaker 1>in your planning, and then of course you know when

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<v Speaker 1>you get back to tournament golf in twenty four.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and golf such a fragile game, Shane, You and

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<v Speaker 2>I both know, man, you can you can lose those feelings.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you think they're just right there, but you

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<v Speaker 2>know sometimes it's you know, they're fleeting. So that's what

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<v Speaker 2>that's what makes this game so fun though.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and Marty is is listeners are thinking about a

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<v Speaker 1>checklist for twenty twenty four, What are some of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that you would push them to consider to think about,

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<v Speaker 1>to focus on not just maybe with their playing in

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<v Speaker 1>their golf game, but he also in their golf bag.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think it's just a good time to have, like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I like to call it like a retrospective,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, just take a nice, good hard look at

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<v Speaker 2>your game and what your goals are, Right, Shane, I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's a big deal. I think back to when

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<v Speaker 2>we had Preston summer Hates on the podcast. Hey Preston,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you need to do to get better? He

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<v Speaker 2>was like, well, I thought about this for a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of weeks and wrote a ten page detailed plan. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think the everyday golfer needs to go to Preston level.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to Preston level personally, but hey, what

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<v Speaker 2>a great example for all of us to do a

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<v Speaker 2>little look back on your game. Be like, hey, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just like you did, I want to play more tournaments.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, what are your goals, what were your strengths,

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<v Speaker 2>what were your weaknesses? If you use any type of

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<v Speaker 2>stats tracking app, heck, even if you just look at

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<v Speaker 2>your gen trends over the years, right, take a look

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<v Speaker 2>at some of your stats and do a little assessment

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<v Speaker 2>on your game. Get you and if you have somebody

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<v Speaker 2>that can help you with it even better, whether that's

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<v Speaker 2>a coach, caddy, friend, do you play a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>golf with what have you? Uh? Take a look, take

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<v Speaker 2>a look at your game and see where you think

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<v Speaker 2>I think that the low hanging fruit is is it

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<v Speaker 2>you're driving, is it your short game, is it your

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<v Speaker 2>mid iron? Play and then you could start to start

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<v Speaker 2>to try to curate an action plan, maybe some habits

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<v Speaker 2>from a practice standpoint, and then an action plan to

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<v Speaker 2>take a look at it from an equipment standpoint.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think something you mentioned off the top there

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<v Speaker 1>is so smart. I mean, obviously there's so many apps

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<v Speaker 1>out there in terms of tracking your golf. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I battle with this, Marti at times playing golf is

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<v Speaker 1>do I want to be on my.

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<v Speaker 2>Phone when I'm playing?

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<v Speaker 1>Or do I not want to be? And obviously, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean for me, golf is a bit of a disconnect

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<v Speaker 1>from the phone. It's so funny. I'll go on golf

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<v Speaker 1>trip sometimes, Marty, and I'll get done. I'll be on

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<v Speaker 1>the flight home and go, I want to post pictures

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<v Speaker 1>on Instagram, and I go. I didn't take many pictures,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a good thing. That means I had a

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<v Speaker 1>great golf trip, right, I mean, if I didn't pull

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<v Speaker 1>my phone out all the time, that typically means I

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<v Speaker 1>was having a great time on the golf course. But

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<v Speaker 1>I do think, considering where we're at in modern technology,

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<v Speaker 1>leaning on those even if it's after the run, even

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<v Speaker 1>if you're at you can track on scorecards and plug

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<v Speaker 1>it in on the back end, fairways, hit greens potts,

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<v Speaker 1>things like that. I think it's so important because Marty

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned low hanging fruit. I'm not sure everybody understands

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<v Speaker 1>what they're good at and what they're bad at, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think being able to track that in some

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<v Speaker 1>capacity can help golfers understand where they should spend their

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<v Speaker 1>time practicing, where they should spend their time. Maybe they've

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<v Speaker 1>got a four year old driver, right, Maybe I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>driven the ball. Well, maybe it's worth spending a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of time getting fit for something new in the

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<v Speaker 1>bag that might be able to help improve that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Shane, you know, we don't need to spend a

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<v Speaker 2>ton of too much time on stats tracking apps. But

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<v Speaker 2>what it does, you hit the nail on the head,

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<v Speaker 2>is it helps you get back past your own personal

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<v Speaker 2>bias of what you think is your strength or weakness

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<v Speaker 2>in your game. I was just recently at a big

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<v Speaker 2>conference talking to some of the top teachers and one

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<v Speaker 2>of them said, hey, I bring my players on the

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<v Speaker 2>course because you can identify the low hanging fruit to

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<v Speaker 2>help them get better. Almost immediately, they might they might

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<v Speaker 2>tell you, oh, my drivings, you know, not that good.

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<v Speaker 2>Then you get on the course, they actually drive it okay,

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<v Speaker 2>they miss their high handicap, or they missed a ton

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<v Speaker 2>of greens. They really struggle with the chipping. But maybe

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<v Speaker 2>they're blanking that out. You know, there's that bias in

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<v Speaker 2>there to give you that true assessment. And that's really

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<v Speaker 2>where the stats come in. You don't need a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>rely one hundred percent on them, but use them as

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a piece of the puzzle to help identify

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<v Speaker 2>where you need help. And then it's at and then

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<v Speaker 2>it's you know, Shane, it's maybe take a whole listic

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<v Speaker 2>view of your golf game. Do you need to work

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<v Speaker 2>on some fitness stuff, some speed stuff, some practice habits,

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<v Speaker 2>and set some realistic goals for yourself for the year? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's the thing is like, Hey, I think

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<v Speaker 2>life's gonna come at me, family, kids, job, travel, what

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<v Speaker 2>have you? What are some realistic things I can do?

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<v Speaker 2>Can I get a little putting that in my house

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<v Speaker 2>and and do some block practice for five or ten

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<v Speaker 2>minutes while I'm watching watching the basketball in the winter? Right,

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<v Speaker 2>these are those tiny things that add up a lot

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<v Speaker 2>over time. And then what can we do from an

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<v Speaker 2>equipment standpoint where am I where's the low hanging fruit

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<v Speaker 2>From an equipment performance standpoint.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like, can you hit the ball longer? I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's a simple fix. I mean I just was

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<v Speaker 1>messing around with the Max ten K. I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the look of it. I know we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>chat more and more about the new driver in the

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<v Speaker 1>coming weeks, but just simply adding a new driver in

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<v Speaker 1>the bag can help you pick up those five or

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<v Speaker 1>ten yards that maybe you've lost or that you'd love

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<v Speaker 1>to improve in terms of what you're trying to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, these are simple fixes for the golf bag

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<v Speaker 1>to help somebody fill a slight hole. That's maybe there's

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<v Speaker 1>something they've been thinking about.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely, Shane. I try to take a look at

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<v Speaker 2>from an equipment standpoint to help golfers out there. Have

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<v Speaker 2>a little checklist of what things to look at. Number One,

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<v Speaker 2>you highlight it first the driver. Are you leaving distance

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<v Speaker 2>on the table through the driver? Fitting and performance? So

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<v Speaker 2>the fitting aspect is, let's make sure you have the

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<v Speaker 2>optimal launch and spin. And if you have not been

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<v Speaker 2>on a launch monitor, you haven't been through our copilot

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<v Speaker 2>tool or understand our chart we have which is angle

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<v Speaker 2>of attack, ball speed. What are the perfect launch conditions?

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<v Speaker 2>So many golfers are misfit by not having the right

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<v Speaker 2>launch and spin. So there's the fitting side of the driver.

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<v Speaker 2>Then there's the performance side, which is making sure you

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<v Speaker 2>have the latest technology in our four to thirty family,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, to give you that forgiveness around the face,

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<v Speaker 2>to give you that spinsistency, to give you that inertia,

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<v Speaker 2>to give you all the ball speed that comes with everything,

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<v Speaker 2>and marry those two things up together. The driver is

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<v Speaker 2>the most important club. At least once a year, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a perfect time of year before the season. Get in,

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<v Speaker 2>get your launch numbers and make sure your driver is

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<v Speaker 2>optimized for launch, and spend Marty.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned the weather. You mentioned you know in a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the areas of the country it's cold, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not playing a whole bunch of golf. And you mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>Ping Copilot, And this is my reminder to everybody out there,

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<v Speaker 1>spend a little bit of time with the apps that

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<v Speaker 1>Ping and Marty have created because it's such an easy fix.

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<v Speaker 1>You talk about driving, you talk about gapping. I know

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<v Speaker 1>we spent a lot of time in terms of gapping,

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<v Speaker 1>but that gapping app if you don't understand where this Again,

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<v Speaker 1>these are simple fixes, Marty. I mean, this isn't going

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<v Speaker 1>out and having a change or swing or spend hours

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<v Speaker 1>on the range working on path takeaway and things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>This is simply am I filling the gaps the right

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<v Speaker 1>way with the right clubs. Do I have a huge

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<v Speaker 1>hole at one twenty that I don't? I don't realize, Marty.

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<v Speaker 1>It's amazing how many buddies I'll talk to of mine that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we'll be playing a scramble or we'll be

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<v Speaker 1>out playing best Ball or something like that and they're like, ah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't want to hit driver, you ride.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really have anything in the one twenty range,

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<v Speaker 1>and my mind's blown, you know. I'm like, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a scoring opportunity. You've got to at that dialed and

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<v Speaker 1>I love. I mean, one of my favorite things at

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<v Speaker 1>ping is that gapping app because it just helps it

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<v Speaker 1>helps an issue that a lot of golfers have.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Shane, I totally agree so that that gapping app

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<v Speaker 2>is a great tool to lean on. Are our tons

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<v Speaker 2>of our fitters out there using it. If you want

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<v Speaker 2>to find a fitter that's using it, you go to

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<v Speaker 2>you go to our find a Fitter tool on ping

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<v Speaker 2>dot com and you can filter buy an account that

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<v Speaker 2>has and is using copiloting and go see them and

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<v Speaker 2>ask to get on the Gaping app. Because even if

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<v Speaker 2>you're not let's say you got a new set I

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<v Speaker 2>two thirties or G four thirty irons in you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the last year or two, there's still it's still worthwhile

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<v Speaker 2>going through the Gaping app even if you're not going

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<v Speaker 2>to replace you know you're not in the market for

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<v Speaker 2>new irons. To look at the edges of your bag,

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<v Speaker 2>like you were talking about Shane, the wedges. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>have the right gapping in your wedges? Number one? And

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<v Speaker 2>then maybe you're playing down to a four iron or

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<v Speaker 2>a five iron, you're struggling with that club. What's the

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<v Speaker 2>right replacement for that? Can you take a look at

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<v Speaker 2>just you know, a hybrid or high lofted fairway would

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<v Speaker 2>go on there, get on that Gaping app. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's the next from the driver drivers Number one, make

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<v Speaker 2>sure you're optimized for launch and spin for your angle

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<v Speaker 2>of attack. Number two would be looking at your second figuration.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you are you comfortable with where what is the

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<v Speaker 2>longest iron in your bag? Number one. And on the

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<v Speaker 2>other end of the bag, like you were talking about, Shane,

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<v Speaker 2>you got to make let's make sure those those wedges

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<v Speaker 2>are scoring clubs and you have them gapped appropriately. That's

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<v Speaker 2>such a big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, we've had plenty of guests on that

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<v Speaker 1>have talked a little bit about this or around this

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<v Speaker 1>idea of not just the wedges. But I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>love what you mentioned with the high loft at fairy Woods.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I've talked so much about my love for

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<v Speaker 1>my seven wood and this becoming so popular. I also,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I always think about this through the eyes

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<v Speaker 1>and the lenses of my buddies that play golf and

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<v Speaker 1>that are kind of all over the board in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of handicapping. But there's so many of my friends that

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<v Speaker 1>have a club in their bag that either they rarely

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<v Speaker 1>use if ever right and a lot of the time

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<v Speaker 1>that'll be a three wood. And so if you have

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<v Speaker 1>a club in your bag. And again, as we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about kind of that checklist for the new year, checklist

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<v Speaker 1>for twenty twenty four, what can I do when I'm not,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, trying to find answers in the dirt? One

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<v Speaker 1>of those things is is there a club in your bag,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a cobweb club, right, you're not using it enough

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<v Speaker 1>to you know, be one of fourteen because fourteen is

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<v Speaker 1>in theory a pretty small number. It's just making sure

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<v Speaker 1>how often are you pulling it out. I do this

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<v Speaker 1>thing every year already, where my my golf shirts. I

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<v Speaker 1>at the start of the year, I flip the hangars

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<v Speaker 1>the way, and by the end of the year, if

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<v Speaker 1>there's hangars that are still facing the wrong way, those

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<v Speaker 1>shirts get donated. Obviously I'm not wearing those shirts. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>The same thing can be done with your golf clubs.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you using golf clubs enough to you know, mandate

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<v Speaker 1>a spot on the bag and if not, really consider

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<v Speaker 1>some other options.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a great point, Shane. That's again where it's

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<v Speaker 2>hard to kind of know that from memory. Like if

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<v Speaker 2>you have arcos, for example, you can look and see

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<v Speaker 2>how how much you've hit the three wood. And one

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<v Speaker 2>of the fun things we've talked about a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>here before, Shane, is that how the three wood is

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<v Speaker 2>used is very different for all players out there. For example,

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<v Speaker 2>me and you, we hit our three wood probably eighty

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<v Speaker 2>eight out of ten times off the tee right for

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<v Speaker 2>the golfer out there that drives it two hundred yards,

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<v Speaker 2>they're the opposite. They hit it eight out of ten

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<v Speaker 2>times off the ground. So that's why you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>three wood might not be the right club for that golfer.

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<v Speaker 2>It might be a might be a five wood might

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<v Speaker 2>be like kind of a you know, we make a

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<v Speaker 2>fourwood out of a five wood. Put a five wood

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<v Speaker 2>in the in the big minus or a five sft

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<v Speaker 2>version five woods something that's very easy to hit off

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<v Speaker 2>the ground. But if you're a better player with more speed,

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<v Speaker 2>you want to be optimizing that three with off the t.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's cobweb club, I think is a really good

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<v Speaker 2>way to frame it and take a look at it.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you replace it with something that's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>more useful?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, If this is just my PSA here, If you

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<v Speaker 1>hate a club in your bag, flip it out of

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<v Speaker 1>the bag. Like, there's no reason to have a long

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<v Speaker 1>iron that you can't hit and you don't love that.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got to strike perfectly to hit the number that

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of have written down in your yardage book,

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<v Speaker 1>if you will, for what that number carries. Think about

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<v Speaker 1>a hybrid, think about a lofted Fairwe would like think

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<v Speaker 1>about these other options. There's so many options across the

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<v Speaker 1>board these days, with crossovers and with lofted fairwy woods

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<v Speaker 1>becoming more popular. You don't have to have have the

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<v Speaker 1>four iron in your bag if you don't feel comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>hitting that. I love my four iron. There's so many

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<v Speaker 1>people out there that don't. There's no reason to have

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<v Speaker 1>clubs in your bag that aren't helping your game. If

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<v Speaker 1>they're hurting your game, take them out and get a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more creative.

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<v Speaker 2>With the bag. Yeah, Shane. I think one of the

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<v Speaker 2>big things to make sure the bed the better players

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<v Speaker 2>listen to this is that hybrids no longer go left right.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't. We don't have that issue necessarily, and so

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<v Speaker 2>don't be afraid of that. Give it you if you

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<v Speaker 2>wiped them out forever. Five years ago you first tried

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<v Speaker 2>hybrids they hooked, or ten years ago, we've solved that problem.

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<v Speaker 2>We got Joaquin Nieman playing a five hybrid and stuffing

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<v Speaker 2>it out there. So give yourself permission that we can

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<v Speaker 2>always go flatter with them to get them to fly straight.

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<v Speaker 2>So definitely take a look at cobweb clubs. Set composition

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<v Speaker 2>between your driver and your longest iron. That's a really

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<v Speaker 2>good area to focus. And then Shane, I would say

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<v Speaker 2>after that, after those two pieces would be looking at

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<v Speaker 2>your wedges and making sure if you're not spinning it

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<v Speaker 2>around the greens, if you're hitting chip shots, pitch shots,

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<v Speaker 2>ball sliding up the face, you don't have that capability

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<v Speaker 2>when you have a really good lie to hit that

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<v Speaker 2>low spinner. If that's something that you want to do

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<v Speaker 2>in your technique, that'd be the next place to look.

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<v Speaker 2>Make sure you're starting the year off with some fresh wedges.

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<v Speaker 1>And the chippers obviously something to think about as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's a big part of this whole You

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<v Speaker 1>talked about composition of the golf bag.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, absolutely, and I think that's where it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>the honest assessment of your game chain is it. Are

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<v Speaker 2>you going to spend the time to improve in a

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<v Speaker 2>certain area, Like let's say you love hitting four iron, right,

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<v Speaker 2>are you going to work on your speed, your technique,

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<v Speaker 2>everything to be able to flush that fore iron get

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<v Speaker 2>that ball up in the air. That's a tough challenge. Similarly,

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to chipping, if you're a golfer out

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<v Speaker 2>there that struggled with chipping off of tight lies and

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<v Speaker 2>making managing your low point and being able to have

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<v Speaker 2>that delivery so you can nip it, get the ball

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<v Speaker 2>in the air, manage the low point. If that's a

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<v Speaker 2>struggle for you, take a look at the chipper, because

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<v Speaker 2>that has been a savior for a lot of golfers

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<v Speaker 2>out there. We have better players around the office. They

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<v Speaker 2>use the chipper. I have played with them and it

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<v Speaker 2>is very impressive what they can do around the green.

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<v Speaker 2>So give that an honest assessment, an honest look.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm Marty. I just late last year. I wrapped

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<v Speaker 1>up a golf trip on my last golf trips of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three, and my buddy Andrew, who is I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's a two handicap, has the chipper in the bag.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he's never he's love it. I'll tell you this, Marty.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a guy that it's either full massive flop shot

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<v Speaker 1>or chipper. Like there's no you know, the simple, flat face,

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<v Speaker 1>fifty six degree pitch shot is not something he's comfortable hitting.

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<v Speaker 1>And so what he's learned is he'd put a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of those shots, but a lot of the time the

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<v Speaker 1>putter is just not the right call. And you could

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<v Speaker 1>go seven and if you feel comfortable with it. But

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<v Speaker 1>what I love about the chipper technology is it's basically

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<v Speaker 1>like using your putting stroke totally and getting a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of that loft and roll out. It takes that

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<v Speaker 1>forcible speed out of the shot. You know, you stand

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<v Speaker 1>over a putt, it's grainy, it's kind of down on

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<v Speaker 1>a swell and you're up a hill. You just feel

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<v Speaker 1>like you gotta mash that. And so many times I'm

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<v Speaker 1>already I see guys putt it over the green right

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<v Speaker 1>because they're thinking they got to hit it so hard.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the chipper because it takes a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of that I've got to hit it hard out of

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<v Speaker 1>their hands.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, totally, And I think you nailed What makes it

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<v Speaker 2>really easy for golfers like him to adapt to the

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<v Speaker 2>chipper is because we designed it so you can pretty

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<v Speaker 2>much use a putting stroke. It's super heavy headway relative

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<v Speaker 2>to chipping with their aight iron or what have you,

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<v Speaker 2>pitching wedge, super heavy headway, shorter and length and very upright,

0:20:51.880 --> 0:20:55.080
<v Speaker 2>so as all those characteristics of a putter. And Shane,

0:20:55.119 --> 0:20:59.000
<v Speaker 2>what's funny about this is the engineer here that designed

0:20:59.160 --> 0:21:01.919
<v Speaker 2>the chipper. You know, we talked a lot about solving

0:21:01.960 --> 0:21:04.919
<v Speaker 2>problems for yourself. He is exactly the same. He is

0:21:05.480 --> 0:21:07.919
<v Speaker 2>is like a scratch too handicap. He floats right in

0:21:08.000 --> 0:21:12.240
<v Speaker 2>that range. He's awesome at flop shots flop shots, but

0:21:12.359 --> 0:21:14.880
<v Speaker 2>he struggled with the basic chip and now he's either

0:21:14.960 --> 0:21:18.199
<v Speaker 2>chipper or flop shot in absolutely magic around the greens.

0:21:18.320 --> 0:21:20.639
<v Speaker 1>Are we talking? He's the same guys, my friend Andrew,

0:21:21.240 --> 0:21:23.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what has he got like a shadow job.

0:21:23.400 --> 0:21:26.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna have to ask him about it. Marty, you

0:21:25.680 --> 0:21:28.480
<v Speaker 1>mentioned putting. A buddy of mine, Mike, just went through

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<v Speaker 1>iping and he was extremely complimentary about it. You know,

0:21:32.840 --> 0:21:35.240
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about getting yourself set up for twenty twenty

0:21:35.240 --> 0:21:38.280
<v Speaker 1>four and your golf game in the winner. Eyping is

0:21:38.280 --> 0:21:41.520
<v Speaker 1>something you can obviously do in your basement at home

0:21:41.920 --> 0:21:45.440
<v Speaker 1>anywhere like that, to make sure you're using the right

0:21:45.480 --> 0:21:49.239
<v Speaker 1>putter for your game and again assessing maybe what's not

0:21:49.359 --> 0:21:51.480
<v Speaker 1>working for you as you get set for the new

0:21:51.480 --> 0:21:51.960
<v Speaker 1>golf here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when it comes to the putter stain, I always

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<v Speaker 2>always again look at like the low hanging fruit, the

0:21:56.560 --> 0:21:58.720
<v Speaker 2>lowest hanging freu. Is to make sure you're in a

0:21:58.760 --> 0:22:03.280
<v Speaker 2>putter that has the right toe hang or balance right.

0:22:03.359 --> 0:22:06.560
<v Speaker 2>We talked about this with Sasho McKenzie when he was

0:22:06.600 --> 0:22:10.520
<v Speaker 2>on talking about the biomechanics of why that is super important.

0:22:10.520 --> 0:22:12.840
<v Speaker 2>So that I would say, is the low hanging fruit.

0:22:13.280 --> 0:22:16.280
<v Speaker 2>From a putter standpoint, do you have a miss tendency? Again,

0:22:16.680 --> 0:22:18.280
<v Speaker 2>it might be hard to remember that if you're not

0:22:18.359 --> 0:22:20.639
<v Speaker 2>tracking stats on it, but if you do have a

0:22:20.640 --> 0:22:23.560
<v Speaker 2>miss tendency. We see a lot of golfer shane tons

0:22:24.119 --> 0:22:28.480
<v Speaker 2>that are playing deep CG mallets heel shafted, missing tons

0:22:28.520 --> 0:22:31.000
<v Speaker 2>of putts to the right, and the biomechanics of this

0:22:31.160 --> 0:22:36.719
<v Speaker 2>absolutely makes sense. Right the very deep sea CG with

0:22:37.000 --> 0:22:40.520
<v Speaker 2>very heel shafted, you'll you have to torque the putter

0:22:40.560 --> 0:22:42.879
<v Speaker 2>a lot open on the backstroke and you can't catch

0:22:42.960 --> 0:22:45.320
<v Speaker 2>up and the faces delivered open to the past. So

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<v Speaker 2>going back to the low hanging fruit, get on ipin,

0:22:49.200 --> 0:22:52.200
<v Speaker 2>get on blast, Go find a fitter that has a

0:22:52.359 --> 0:22:56.560
<v Speaker 2>maybe a quintic system and understand how much you rotate

0:22:56.600 --> 0:22:58.760
<v Speaker 2>the face and the ford stroke. And if you don't

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<v Speaker 2>rotate it very much on iping, if you rotate a

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<v Speaker 2>two and a half degrees or less, you'll probably be

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<v Speaker 2>better in a more face balanced putter. If you have

0:23:07.520 --> 0:23:10.080
<v Speaker 2>a lot of rotations seven and a half degrees or more,

0:23:10.440 --> 0:23:13.040
<v Speaker 2>you'll probably better be better with a strong arc or

0:23:13.080 --> 0:23:15.480
<v Speaker 2>a very toe down putter, or you might be kind

0:23:15.480 --> 0:23:17.320
<v Speaker 2>of in the middle. So that I would say, is

0:23:17.400 --> 0:23:20.919
<v Speaker 2>the checklist item on putting. Make sure you're in the

0:23:20.960 --> 0:23:22.720
<v Speaker 2>right stroke type or toe hangu putter.

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<v Speaker 1>Marty, can you let people know if they've never gone

0:23:25.720 --> 0:23:29.040
<v Speaker 1>through iping, what to expect, like what to expect when

0:23:29.040 --> 0:23:30.680
<v Speaker 1>the package arrives at home at their home.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, Yeah, So that for that PLD custom program,

0:23:36.680 --> 0:23:40.119
<v Speaker 2>we have a mode of eping that guides you through

0:23:41.119 --> 0:23:44.040
<v Speaker 2>hitting putts and you can do it right on your

0:23:44.080 --> 0:23:46.520
<v Speaker 2>carpet in your house, a nice flat surface.

0:23:47.119 --> 0:23:47.440
<v Speaker 1>I did it.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna do putts that are about a ten footer,

0:23:50.440 --> 0:23:52.280
<v Speaker 2>or it doesn't have to be perfectly ten feet, it

0:23:52.280 --> 0:23:54.480
<v Speaker 2>could be eight to fifteen somewhere in that range. But

0:23:54.520 --> 0:23:57.680
<v Speaker 2>you're we're gonna cue you to try to have an

0:23:57.680 --> 0:24:00.760
<v Speaker 2>intention to repeat your stroke as if you need to

0:24:00.760 --> 0:24:04.000
<v Speaker 2>make that ten foot straight putt on the golf course,

0:24:04.560 --> 0:24:08.240
<v Speaker 2>and in doing so. The sensors in the phone or

0:24:08.240 --> 0:24:11.640
<v Speaker 2>iPod itself are super duper accurate. They're built for playing

0:24:11.720 --> 0:24:15.920
<v Speaker 2>video games, and we can measure five key characteristics about

0:24:15.960 --> 0:24:19.160
<v Speaker 2>your putting stroke that you cannot see with the naked eye,

0:24:19.200 --> 0:24:21.520
<v Speaker 2>and I think that is the most important part. You

0:24:21.560 --> 0:24:25.080
<v Speaker 2>can't see tempo, time of backstroke, time a forward stroke.

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<v Speaker 2>With the naked eye. You can't see face rotation. You

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<v Speaker 2>can see path pretty good with the naked eye, but

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<v Speaker 2>not face rotation, and that's what we're talking about. How

0:24:34.000 --> 0:24:38.080
<v Speaker 2>much does the putter rotate on the backstroke rotate on

0:24:38.119 --> 0:24:41.520
<v Speaker 2>the forward stroke. We get a face angle delivery, which

0:24:41.560 --> 0:24:45.040
<v Speaker 2>is ultimately that's king. We talked about that with Sasho

0:24:45.160 --> 0:24:47.840
<v Speaker 2>as well, Like face angle is the most important thing,

0:24:48.560 --> 0:24:51.880
<v Speaker 2>and we can factor that into the fitting process as

0:24:51.920 --> 0:24:55.399
<v Speaker 2>well as your setup a shaft lean. How much you

0:24:55.520 --> 0:24:59.120
<v Speaker 2>lean the shaft will influence the loft your putter and

0:24:59.200 --> 0:25:02.840
<v Speaker 2>the lying shane. So iping is it's a you know,

0:25:02.920 --> 0:25:05.720
<v Speaker 2>we're using the cool sensors in the phone, but we're

0:25:05.720 --> 0:25:08.359
<v Speaker 2>doing a lot of things on the back end algorithmically

0:25:09.280 --> 0:25:11.360
<v Speaker 2>that can really help your your putting stroke. You can't

0:25:11.400 --> 0:25:12.359
<v Speaker 2>see with the naked eye.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the key to getting fit for a putter.

0:25:15.720 --> 0:25:19.960
<v Speaker 1>The key point to hear here is they can ping

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<v Speaker 1>can help you have a putter fit your stroke versus

0:25:23.160 --> 0:25:25.480
<v Speaker 1>you having to change the stroke to make sense with

0:25:25.520 --> 0:25:27.600
<v Speaker 1>the putter you're using. And I think that's so important

0:25:27.640 --> 0:25:30.479
<v Speaker 1>because there are a million different putting strokes out there.

0:25:30.520 --> 0:25:32.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you go to the putting green at a

0:25:32.359 --> 0:25:35.160
<v Speaker 1>PGA Tour event or an LPGA Tour event, You're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>see thirty different looking strokes, right, I mean, there's gonna

0:25:38.359 --> 0:25:40.880
<v Speaker 1>be so many different you know, inside out and things

0:25:40.960 --> 0:25:44.919
<v Speaker 1>like that. But those players have a putter fit to

0:25:45.040 --> 0:25:47.880
<v Speaker 1>exactly their stroke. And that is what ipin can do

0:25:48.320 --> 0:25:50.439
<v Speaker 1>for people listening, is it can fit a putter for

0:25:50.520 --> 0:25:53.040
<v Speaker 1>you versus you having to kind of you know, I

0:25:53.040 --> 0:25:54.800
<v Speaker 1>got to lean my hands a little bit more forward

0:25:54.920 --> 0:25:57.560
<v Speaker 1>or let's not forward press, like take all of your

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<v Speaker 1>guessing out of it and allow the technology to do

0:26:00.240 --> 0:26:02.000
<v Speaker 1>that for you. I just think that's so important.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Shane, that was a really good, uh, really well

0:26:06.560 --> 0:26:10.120
<v Speaker 2>put on. How the tour players, you know, another way

0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:13.119
<v Speaker 2>to think about iping is it's the tour players have

0:26:13.160 --> 0:26:15.399
<v Speaker 2>been able to have trial and air. They have all

0:26:15.440 --> 0:26:17.040
<v Speaker 2>the putters out there in the putting green, they can

0:26:17.080 --> 0:26:19.000
<v Speaker 2>try them, see what works out there.

0:26:19.040 --> 0:26:19.520
<v Speaker 1>It's so good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So we fit them with iping, But you know

0:26:23.480 --> 0:26:27.119
<v Speaker 2>the algorithms that are baked in there work, you know,

0:26:27.200 --> 0:26:29.639
<v Speaker 2>in reverse to over the history of time. Right, you

0:26:29.640 --> 0:26:32.480
<v Speaker 2>have you have players who rotate the putter a lot

0:26:32.600 --> 0:26:35.080
<v Speaker 2>using tow down putters. You have players that don't rotate

0:26:35.119 --> 0:26:38.600
<v Speaker 2>the putter a lot using face balance putters. What iping

0:26:38.640 --> 0:26:43.040
<v Speaker 2>does It helps eliminate all that trial and air so

0:26:43.080 --> 0:26:46.399
<v Speaker 2>that we can kind of apply the science and apply

0:26:46.480 --> 0:26:50.240
<v Speaker 2>all that empirical observation. And again I think the key

0:26:50.320 --> 0:26:53.119
<v Speaker 2>is things you can't see with the naked eye and

0:26:53.160 --> 0:26:55.800
<v Speaker 2>make sure things are not fighting your stroke. I think

0:26:55.800 --> 0:26:57.480
<v Speaker 2>you frame that very very well.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Marty, So we've hit driver, We've got people

0:27:00.880 --> 0:27:03.760
<v Speaker 1>dialed on their gap and in their wedges. Putting is

0:27:03.800 --> 0:27:06.520
<v Speaker 1>now they're gonna have everybody here's listening's gonna order iping

0:27:06.840 --> 0:27:08.760
<v Speaker 1>and get fit and they're gonna make every put in

0:27:08.800 --> 0:27:12.440
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four, What about the golf ball? What can

0:27:12.480 --> 0:27:15.480
<v Speaker 1>people do in terms of thinking about the golf ball

0:27:15.480 --> 0:27:18.920
<v Speaker 1>they're playing and making sure that's right for their golf game.

0:27:19.320 --> 0:27:21.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I view the golf ball, Shane, is like the

0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:25.880
<v Speaker 2>glue that puts it all together, all these components. The

0:27:25.920 --> 0:27:30.840
<v Speaker 2>ball is the cherry on top. And it ties driver performance,

0:27:30.920 --> 0:27:34.679
<v Speaker 2>iron performance, green side spin, feeling sound off the putter,

0:27:35.320 --> 0:27:37.120
<v Speaker 2>how that ball is going to fly through the air.

0:27:37.240 --> 0:27:38.879
<v Speaker 2>Do you need a ball that's better in the wind

0:27:38.960 --> 0:27:42.280
<v Speaker 2>or not? That is the kind of the final piece

0:27:42.320 --> 0:27:45.560
<v Speaker 2>of the puzzle, And I think around the first of

0:27:45.600 --> 0:27:48.960
<v Speaker 2>the year is the perfect time to make sure you're

0:27:48.960 --> 0:27:51.560
<v Speaker 2>in the right golf ball right because it's like which

0:27:51.600 --> 0:27:53.240
<v Speaker 2>ball am I going to use for the season. Of

0:27:53.280 --> 0:27:55.639
<v Speaker 2>course you can and should as new golf balls come

0:27:55.680 --> 0:27:58.120
<v Speaker 2>out take a look at this. But I think going

0:27:58.280 --> 0:28:02.400
<v Speaker 2>through Balnamic, which is golf ball finning solution and software

0:28:02.800 --> 0:28:05.800
<v Speaker 2>which you can do with launch modern data or without.

0:28:05.880 --> 0:28:09.240
<v Speaker 2>We'll talk a little bit about that about once a season,

0:28:09.400 --> 0:28:13.480
<v Speaker 2>maybe twice a season, is the perfect cadence to make

0:28:13.520 --> 0:28:16.520
<v Speaker 2>sure that your clubs and golf ball how you wanted

0:28:16.560 --> 0:28:20.480
<v Speaker 2>to perform on the golf course is all marrying together

0:28:20.560 --> 0:28:24.560
<v Speaker 2>and understanding golf balls is tough. There's so many on

0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:29.760
<v Speaker 2>the market. They have such a diversity in how they perform.

0:28:30.119 --> 0:28:33.160
<v Speaker 2>They can change one model can change a lot from

0:28:33.280 --> 0:28:36.159
<v Speaker 2>year to year, so you can't you can't really just

0:28:36.200 --> 0:28:38.480
<v Speaker 2>say I've always played this ball, played the newest version,

0:28:38.800 --> 0:28:41.520
<v Speaker 2>because sometimes they can change quite a bit, and so

0:28:41.600 --> 0:28:44.120
<v Speaker 2>we designed Balnamic to help solve these problems. And going

0:28:44.160 --> 0:28:46.720
<v Speaker 2>through this, going through Ballnamic around the first year is

0:28:46.760 --> 0:28:47.840
<v Speaker 2>the perfect time to do.

0:28:47.800 --> 0:28:50.920
<v Speaker 1>It, do you, Marty? You know there's so many options

0:28:50.960 --> 0:28:53.600
<v Speaker 1>available with a lot of this technology at paying Do

0:28:53.720 --> 0:28:56.520
<v Speaker 1>you go through this stuff relatively consistent? I mean, are

0:28:56.520 --> 0:28:59.320
<v Speaker 1>you checking on the ball for your own golf game?

0:28:59.320 --> 0:29:01.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're such a great player. I mean, you

0:29:01.200 --> 0:29:03.960
<v Speaker 1>know we've talked about your accolades, but are these things

0:29:04.080 --> 0:29:06.120
<v Speaker 1>you're kind of checking in on a couple times a year,

0:29:06.200 --> 0:29:06.920
<v Speaker 1>once a year or so.

0:29:07.480 --> 0:29:11.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? No, absolute, Shane, I do, and I follow our

0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:13.480
<v Speaker 2>same process. You know you would if you were a

0:29:13.480 --> 0:29:17.440
<v Speaker 2>Mini Tour player or something. I schedule a fitting in

0:29:17.480 --> 0:29:19.760
<v Speaker 2>the off season, right, kind of like the Summery has

0:29:19.800 --> 0:29:23.360
<v Speaker 2>talked about, like, hey, we schedule a fitting and come in,

0:29:23.760 --> 0:29:25.560
<v Speaker 2>come in. And I kind of have to do that

0:29:25.600 --> 0:29:28.680
<v Speaker 2>because I'm so close to everything I And when I

0:29:28.760 --> 0:29:32.080
<v Speaker 2>schedule a fitting, I tell Brad Millard or one of

0:29:32.120 --> 0:29:35.400
<v Speaker 2>our master fitters here, treat me as if I'm I'm

0:29:35.480 --> 0:29:38.760
<v Speaker 2>just a tournament golfer, right and put me through all

0:29:38.880 --> 0:29:42.520
<v Speaker 2>the tools, the protocols, X ray my equipment, my game,

0:29:42.520 --> 0:29:46.200
<v Speaker 2>my launch condition. So absolutely, we're pulling up our launch

0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:48.280
<v Speaker 2>efficiency tool, which is one of my favorite in the

0:29:48.360 --> 0:29:50.760
<v Speaker 2>driver to make sure you're optimized from a launch and

0:29:50.800 --> 0:29:54.040
<v Speaker 2>spin standpoint. We're looking at the latest crop of balls

0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:57.280
<v Speaker 2>and is there a new option for me from Balnamic

0:29:57.640 --> 0:30:00.200
<v Speaker 2>because I spin my driver a little bit more than

0:30:00.200 --> 0:30:04.360
<v Speaker 2>are optimal, says, so I use golf ball to give

0:30:04.400 --> 0:30:08.520
<v Speaker 2>me net three hundred less spin in terms of driver flight. Right,

0:30:08.960 --> 0:30:12.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm always using the gaping app and that is awesome

0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:14.080
<v Speaker 2>to see if there's another option there, especially in my

0:30:14.160 --> 0:30:18.360
<v Speaker 2>long irons. And then iping. I go on iping at

0:30:18.480 --> 0:30:20.360
<v Speaker 2>least a couple times a year to see if anything's

0:30:20.440 --> 0:30:25.160
<v Speaker 2>changing my stroke because your stroke can evolve a little

0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:27.160
<v Speaker 2>bit over time, and to make sure I'm not making

0:30:27.240 --> 0:30:31.640
<v Speaker 2>any compensation, so one hundred percent, and I schedule that

0:30:31.800 --> 0:30:34.720
<v Speaker 2>to make sure it's kind of like a blocked intentional

0:30:34.800 --> 0:30:35.800
<v Speaker 2>thing on my calendar.

0:30:36.200 --> 0:30:39.080
<v Speaker 1>What about stat tracking? How do you go about your

0:30:39.200 --> 0:30:42.000
<v Speaker 1>stat tracking? Because I know you're someone that pays a

0:30:42.040 --> 0:30:43.480
<v Speaker 1>lot of attention to those types of things.

0:30:44.040 --> 0:30:47.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so use I'm kind of in the research modes.

0:30:47.200 --> 0:30:49.640
<v Speaker 2>I use a bunch of different stat tracking apps. I

0:30:49.760 --> 0:30:54.040
<v Speaker 2>use arcos quite a bit for stat tracking, but I

0:30:54.080 --> 0:30:57.240
<v Speaker 2>experiment with a bunch of others. Golf Metrics really cool,

0:30:57.320 --> 0:31:01.840
<v Speaker 2>has some nice strokes gained features in there. Stack putting

0:31:02.040 --> 0:31:05.080
<v Speaker 2>is how I do my putting stats tracking now because

0:31:05.080 --> 0:31:09.520
<v Speaker 2>it gives the most granular insights for missus and I'm

0:31:09.920 --> 0:31:12.880
<v Speaker 2>pretty hardcore kind of aim pointer when I'm out there,

0:31:12.920 --> 0:31:15.720
<v Speaker 2>kind of always kind of figuring out, figuring out if

0:31:15.760 --> 0:31:19.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm at a one percent, two percent, three percent slope,

0:31:19.320 --> 0:31:23.800
<v Speaker 2>so that gives me the most granular insights from a

0:31:23.880 --> 0:31:24.960
<v Speaker 2>putting standpoint.

0:31:25.120 --> 0:31:26.800
<v Speaker 1>Do you think people that are listening to this podcast

0:31:26.880 --> 0:31:28.440
<v Speaker 1>are going to have their best golf in your ever?

0:31:28.560 --> 0:31:32.040
<v Speaker 1>I just feel like the advice you've given my goodness.

0:31:32.120 --> 0:31:33.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, how do you not have a grade twenty four?

0:31:33.880 --> 0:31:37.720
<v Speaker 2>You know? Yeah, they are, Shane, I would say the

0:31:37.760 --> 0:31:40.480
<v Speaker 2>big things are take take a look at driver, take

0:31:40.480 --> 0:31:43.800
<v Speaker 2>a look at second figuration, make sure if your if

0:31:43.840 --> 0:31:46.760
<v Speaker 2>your wedges are degrading a little bit and grooves face friction,

0:31:46.920 --> 0:31:49.200
<v Speaker 2>spin generation, take a look at that. Make sure you're

0:31:49.200 --> 0:31:52.440
<v Speaker 2>in the right stroke type of putter. Consider a stats

0:31:52.440 --> 0:31:56.080
<v Speaker 2>tracking solution so you get those true, non biased insights

0:31:56.080 --> 0:31:58.760
<v Speaker 2>to your game. Set up some good golf habits and

0:31:58.800 --> 0:31:59.560
<v Speaker 2>have an awesome year.

0:31:59.800 --> 0:32:01.840
<v Speaker 1>And I got one last thing we haven't mentioned, but

0:32:01.920 --> 0:32:05.240
<v Speaker 1>I also see this a lot. You mentioned the groove faces,

0:32:05.280 --> 0:32:08.920
<v Speaker 1>and I think that is something people leave on the

0:32:08.920 --> 0:32:12.480
<v Speaker 1>cutting room floor way too often. They don't upgrade wedges.

0:32:12.720 --> 0:32:15.400
<v Speaker 1>They should be upgrading wedges in twenty four, especially with ping.

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<v Speaker 1>New wedges are meant, but grips. Pay attention to your grips.

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<v Speaker 1>If the grips are worn, you've had them for a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years, and you play, you know, relatively consistent golf,

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<v Speaker 1>you play a couple times a month, you leave the

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<v Speaker 1>clubs in the trunk or whatever the case may be,

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<v Speaker 1>a clean them. But be consider whatever it is a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of hundred bucks to get your grips regripped. Because

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<v Speaker 1>you you mentioned the golf ball being such a such

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<v Speaker 1>an important part of the configuration, you know, of the

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<v Speaker 1>of the golf club and the golfer. I mean the

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<v Speaker 1>grips are the tires, right, I mean you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>ball tires driving in the rain like you want good grips.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, fresh grips is a super big deal, especially if

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<v Speaker 2>you if you got you're not gonna look at replacing

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<v Speaker 2>your irons or maybe your driver's pretty dialed. Put fresh

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<v Speaker 2>grips on. There is a big one, Shane. I think

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<v Speaker 2>a couple other things for folks to check, especially if

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<v Speaker 2>you swap shafts. Let's say you swap shafts with a

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<v Speaker 2>buddy and your driver's shaft or something. Check your swing weights, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>whether you have a swing weight scale at home, your

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<v Speaker 2>local shop, your your golf course. Check your swing weights

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of times is a very basic one. If

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<v Speaker 2>you're struggling with one club going left or right or

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<v Speaker 2>low point control, check your swing weights if you've if

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<v Speaker 2>you've swapped anything out and on the metal wood standpoint.

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<v Speaker 2>Another one's shame to throw in. There is a fresh bag.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that provides a really good kind of uh

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<v Speaker 2>kind of mental uh you know, freshness to the ear.

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<v Speaker 2>Get your bag, get all your your your tea's, your train,

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<v Speaker 2>make sure you got to spot for your little training aids,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever you carry with you in your bag. That could

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<v Speaker 2>be a big deal too, to get your ear started

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<v Speaker 2>off fresh. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I just played golf a couple of weeks ago and

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<v Speaker 1>Caddy walked with the first tea and he goes, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I love when I see a hoof for and I go,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, and he goes, it's just there, just the best.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I know, they're the best bag. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I had them when I was a junior golfer, I've

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<v Speaker 1>had them through college, and I've got one now and

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. So yeah, I think the golf bag

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<v Speaker 1>is a great call as well. You know what, Marty,

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<v Speaker 1>I went the kind of single carry bag for a bit,

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<v Speaker 1>but the stand is unbeatable. It just it might listen,

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<v Speaker 1>it might be eight ounces heavier, whatever the case may be,

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<v Speaker 1>than an on stand bag, but I will carry the

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<v Speaker 1>ounces more so that my I don't love this laying

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<v Speaker 1>it down and picking it up. I'm just I've become

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<v Speaker 1>a stand guy, even when I'm carrying myself same.

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<v Speaker 2>I like just getting the just a little bit easier

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<v Speaker 2>to get the clubs out of the bag, the switch clubs.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're between clubs, wind picks up. Man, It's so

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<v Speaker 2>much easier to throw Bindo your eight arm back in there.

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<v Speaker 2>Totally totally agree with you, Rob, You're seven well, Marty.

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<v Speaker 1>Happy new year, Man, super pumped for twenty twenty four,

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<v Speaker 1>Excited for all the content on this platform and what

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to be doing elsewhere. It's gonna be a

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<v Speaker 1>great year for us, gonna be a great year for

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<v Speaker 1>the golf world hopefully, and gonna be a great year

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<v Speaker 1>for the listeners because with all this advice and some

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<v Speaker 1>of the guests we have upcoming, I think it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be you know, I will say this all the feedback

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<v Speaker 1>I've got, Marty, I know you feel the same way

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<v Speaker 1>about the podcast. You know, we're eight nine months into

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<v Speaker 1>doing this podcast. It's been super fun to do. But

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<v Speaker 1>the feedback from you guys listening has been awesome. So

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<v Speaker 1>we always appreciate the messages and the tweets and the

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<v Speaker 1>and the you know, the things you guys send on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>It's great to hear from you, and we appreciate you

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<v Speaker 1>guys listening because it's been a lot of fun to

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<v Speaker 1>do so far.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Shane, I totally agree. I've got some awesome feedback. Hopefully.

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<v Speaker 2>Golfers are just are. My goal with this, Shane, is

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<v Speaker 2>to help golfers get better, play better golf, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean. So yeah, hopefully everyone got a little

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<v Speaker 2>you know, take a couple of those things from our

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<v Speaker 2>checklist or do them all would be awesome and get

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<v Speaker 2>your game dial chain. One thing we did want to

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<v Speaker 1>Enjoy it, Marty, that hold on, that's half. I'm almost

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>great new year. Set those goals, write down the notes,

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<v Speaker 1>focus on the golf bag and play golf great. We're

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<v Speaker 1>excited to see if this is the paying Proven Grounds

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<v Speaker 1>podcast