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Speaker 1: The guys from Ping. They've kind of showed me how

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Speaker 1: much dequiment matters. I just love that I can hit

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Speaker 1: any shot I kind of want.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna be able to tell some fun stories about

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Speaker 2: what goes on here to help golfers play better golf.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Ping proven Grounds Podcast. I'm Shane Bacon.

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Speaker 1: That's Marty Jerts and Marty. Happy New Year. You know

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Speaker 1: what we gotta start with, right? Do you got a resolution?

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Speaker 1: You got you got something you're gonna You're gonna set

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Speaker 1: your goals and eyes and mind and body ad at

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Oh, Shane, I used to be super big into the resolutions,

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Speaker 2: you know, like and for me it was always removing

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Speaker 2: something was like a good resolution. Like one year being

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Speaker 2: from Arizona, Man, I love chips and guac. I had

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Speaker 2: to give up chips. I was like, I couldn't do it.

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Speaker 2: Did you do the whole year? Did you did you

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Speaker 2: do the whole year and not do it? I did

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 2: One year. I regret this, but I gave up coffee.

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Speaker 2: I like switched to tea and then I had a

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Speaker 2: I did it literally for the whole year, but I

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Speaker 2: rebounded on that now, so I'm not doing that. But

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Speaker 2: I think this year, you know, I think it's gonna

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Speaker 2: be maybe because over forty is maybe maybe diet wise,

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Speaker 2: be my big thing for for twenty four. How about you,

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Speaker 2: what are you dot on your list?

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Speaker 1: I'm adding an extra leg and lower body workout a week. So,

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Speaker 1: as you know, Marty, it's super easy to do kind

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Speaker 1: my goal, and I've been working with a trainer on

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Speaker 1: just going to introduce a lot more leg workouts. Again,

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Speaker 1: you said it, Marty, I just turned forty, you know,

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Speaker 1: funny you and I are focused on the same stuff.

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Speaker 1: It's like diet and gym or basically what you have

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Speaker 1: to have to do when you when you when you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. But I think it's good. I mean, when

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Speaker 2: establish what your habits are going to be for the year,

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Speaker 2: knowing that life's going to come your way, things are

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Speaker 2: habits you can go back to? And yeah, I think

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Speaker 2: we've feeling good about both of ours, Shane.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, Marty, it's interesting. I mean I remember,

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Speaker 1: I think it's easy to say I'm going to spend

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Speaker 1: For me with my golf game, Marty, I'm going to

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Speaker 1: I think about that on tour lot with the pro golfers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and golf such a fragile game, Shane, You and

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Speaker 2: I both know, man, you can you can lose those feelings.

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Speaker 2: You know, what are your goals, what were your strengths,

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Speaker 1: trip sometimes, Marty, and I'll get done. I'll be on

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Speaker 1: You talk about driving, you talk about gapping. I know

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, we've had plenty of guests on that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm Marty. I just late last year. I wrapped

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Speaker 1: or chipper. Like there's no you know, the simple, flat face,

432
00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,359
Speaker 1: fifty six degree pitch shot is not something he's comfortable hitting.

433
00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,240
Speaker 1: And so what he's learned is he'd put a lot

434
00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,399
Speaker 1: of those shots, but a lot of the time the

435
00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,400
Speaker 1: putter is just not the right call. And you could

436
00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,359
Speaker 1: go seven and if you feel comfortable with it. But

437
00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,160
Speaker 1: what I love about the chipper technology is it's basically

438
00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,560
Speaker 1: like using your putting stroke totally and getting a little

439
00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,080
Speaker 1: bit of that loft and roll out. It takes that

440
00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,880
Speaker 1: forcible speed out of the shot. You know, you stand

441
00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,679
Speaker 1: over a putt, it's grainy, it's kind of down on

442
00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:17,840
Speaker 1: a swell and you're up a hill. You just feel

443
00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,080
Speaker 1: like you gotta mash that. And so many times I'm

444
00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,920
Speaker 1: already I see guys putt it over the green right

445
00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:24,640
Speaker 1: because they're thinking they got to hit it so hard.

446
00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,080
Speaker 1: I love the chipper because it takes a little bit

447
00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,320
Speaker 1: of that I've got to hit it hard out of

448
00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:29,879
Speaker 1: their hands.

449
00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally, And I think you nailed What makes it

450
00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:38,560
Speaker 2: really easy for golfers like him to adapt to the

451
00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,320
Speaker 2: chipper is because we designed it so you can pretty

452
00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:45,120
Speaker 2: much use a putting stroke. It's super heavy headway relative

453
00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,080
Speaker 2: to chipping with their aight iron or what have you,

454
00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:51,560
Speaker 2: pitching wedge, super heavy headway, shorter and length and very upright,

455
00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,080
Speaker 2: so as all those characteristics of a putter. And Shane,

456
00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:59,000
Speaker 2: what's funny about this is the engineer here that designed

457
00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,919
Speaker 2: the chipper. You know, we talked a lot about solving

458
00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,919
Speaker 2: problems for yourself. He is exactly the same. He is

459
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,919
Speaker 2: is like a scratch too handicap. He floats right in

460
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:12,240
Speaker 2: that range. He's awesome at flop shots flop shots, but

461
00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,880
Speaker 2: he struggled with the basic chip and now he's either

462
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:18,199
Speaker 2: chipper or flop shot in absolutely magic around the greens.

463
00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,639
Speaker 1: Are we talking? He's the same guys, my friend Andrew,

464
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,360
Speaker 1: I don't know what has he got like a shadow job.

465
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,119
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to ask him about it. Marty, you

466
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,480
Speaker 1: mentioned putting. A buddy of mine, Mike, just went through

467
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,760
Speaker 1: iping and he was extremely complimentary about it. You know,

468
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,240
Speaker 1: you're talking about getting yourself set up for twenty twenty

469
00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 1: four and your golf game in the winner. Eyping is

470
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 1: something you can obviously do in your basement at home

471
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,440
Speaker 1: anywhere like that, to make sure you're using the right

472
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:49,239
Speaker 1: putter for your game and again assessing maybe what's not

473
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,480
Speaker 1: working for you as you get set for the new

474
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:51,960
Speaker 1: golf here.

475
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, when it comes to the putter stain, I always

476
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 2: always again look at like the low hanging fruit, the

477
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 2: lowest hanging freu. Is to make sure you're in a

478
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 2: putter that has the right toe hang or balance right.

479
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 2: We talked about this with Sasho McKenzie when he was

480
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 2: on talking about the biomechanics of why that is super important.

481
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 2: So that I would say, is the low hanging fruit.

482
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 2: From a putter standpoint, do you have a miss tendency? Again,

483
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 2: it might be hard to remember that if you're not

484
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,639
Speaker 2: tracking stats on it, but if you do have a

485
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 2: miss tendency. We see a lot of golfer shane tons

486
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 2: that are playing deep CG mallets heel shafted, missing tons

487
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 2: of putts to the right, and the biomechanics of this

488
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:36,719
Speaker 2: absolutely makes sense. Right the very deep sea CG with

489
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 2: very heel shafted, you'll you have to torque the putter

490
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,879
Speaker 2: a lot open on the backstroke and you can't catch

491
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 2: up and the faces delivered open to the past. So

492
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,920
Speaker 2: going back to the low hanging fruit, get on ipin,

493
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,200
Speaker 2: get on blast, Go find a fitter that has a

494
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 2: maybe a quintic system and understand how much you rotate

495
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 2: the face and the ford stroke. And if you don't

496
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 2: rotate it very much on iping, if you rotate a

497
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,639
Speaker 2: two and a half degrees or less, you'll probably be

498
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 2: better in a more face balanced putter. If you have

499
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 2: a lot of rotations seven and a half degrees or more,

500
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 2: you'll probably better be better with a strong arc or

501
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 2: a very toe down putter, or you might be kind

502
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 2: of in the middle. So that I would say, is

503
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,919
Speaker 2: the checklist item on putting. Make sure you're in the

504
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 2: right stroke type or toe hangu putter.

505
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Speaker 1: Marty, can you let people know if they've never gone

506
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 1: through iping, what to expect, like what to expect when

507
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:30,680
Speaker 1: the package arrives at home at their home.

508
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, Yeah, So that for that PLD custom program,

509
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 2: we have a mode of eping that guides you through

510
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 2: hitting putts and you can do it right on your

511
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 2: carpet in your house, a nice flat surface.

512
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 1: I did it.

513
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 2: You're gonna do putts that are about a ten footer,

514
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 2: or it doesn't have to be perfectly ten feet, it

515
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 2: could be eight to fifteen somewhere in that range. But

516
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 2: you're we're gonna cue you to try to have an

517
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 2: intention to repeat your stroke as if you need to

518
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 2: make that ten foot straight putt on the golf course,

519
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 2: and in doing so. The sensors in the phone or

520
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,640
Speaker 2: iPod itself are super duper accurate. They're built for playing

521
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 2: video games, and we can measure five key characteristics about

522
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,160
Speaker 2: your putting stroke that you cannot see with the naked eye,

523
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 2: and I think that is the most important part. You

524
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 2: can't see tempo, time of backstroke, time a forward stroke.

525
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 2: With the naked eye. You can't see face rotation. You

526
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 2: can see path pretty good with the naked eye, but

527
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 2: not face rotation, and that's what we're talking about. How

528
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 2: much does the putter rotate on the backstroke rotate on

529
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 2: the forward stroke. We get a face angle delivery, which

530
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 2: is ultimately that's king. We talked about that with Sasho

531
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 2: as well, Like face angle is the most important thing,

532
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,880
Speaker 2: and we can factor that into the fitting process as

533
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 2: well as your setup a shaft lean. How much you

534
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,120
Speaker 2: lean the shaft will influence the loft your putter and

535
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 2: the lying shane. So iping is it's a you know,

536
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 2: we're using the cool sensors in the phone, but we're

537
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 2: doing a lot of things on the back end algorithmically

538
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,360
Speaker 2: that can really help your your putting stroke. You can't

539
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 2: see with the naked eye.

540
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 1: I think the key to getting fit for a putter.

541
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 1: The key point to hear here is they can ping

542
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 1: can help you have a putter fit your stroke versus

543
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 1: you having to change the stroke to make sense with

544
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 1: the putter you're using. And I think that's so important

545
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,479
Speaker 1: because there are a million different putting strokes out there.

546
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 1: I mean, you go to the putting green at a

547
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 1: PGA Tour event or an LPGA Tour event, You're gonna

548
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 1: see thirty different looking strokes, right, I mean, there's gonna

549
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,880
Speaker 1: be so many different you know, inside out and things

550
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 1: like that. But those players have a putter fit to

551
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 1: exactly their stroke. And that is what ipin can do

552
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,439
Speaker 1: for people listening, is it can fit a putter for

553
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 1: you versus you having to kind of you know, I

554
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 1: got to lean my hands a little bit more forward

555
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 1: or let's not forward press, like take all of your

556
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 1: guessing out of it and allow the technology to do

557
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 1: that for you. I just think that's so important.

558
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Shane, that was a really good, uh, really well

559
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,120
Speaker 2: put on. How the tour players, you know, another way

560
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 2: to think about iping is it's the tour players have

561
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 2: been able to have trial and air. They have all

562
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 2: the putters out there in the putting green, they can

563
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 2: try them, see what works out there.

564
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: It's so good.

565
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:23,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, So we fit them with iping, But you know

566
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 2: the algorithms that are baked in there work, you know,

567
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 2: in reverse to over the history of time. Right, you

568
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 2: have you have players who rotate the putter a lot

569
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 2: using tow down putters. You have players that don't rotate

570
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 2: the putter a lot using face balance putters. What iping

571
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 2: does It helps eliminate all that trial and air so

572
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 2: that we can kind of apply the science and apply

573
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 2: all that empirical observation. And again I think the key

574
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 2: is things you can't see with the naked eye and

575
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 2: make sure things are not fighting your stroke. I think

576
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 2: you frame that very very well.

577
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: All right, Marty, So we've hit driver, We've got people

578
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: dialed on their gap and in their wedges. Putting is

579
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: now they're gonna have everybody here's listening's gonna order iping

580
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: and get fit and they're gonna make every put in

581
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, What about the golf ball? What can

582
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 1: people do in terms of thinking about the golf ball

583
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 1: they're playing and making sure that's right for their golf game.

584
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I view the golf ball, Shane, is like the

585
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 2: glue that puts it all together, all these components. The

586
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 2: ball is the cherry on top. And it ties driver performance,

587
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,679
Speaker 2: iron performance, green side spin, feeling sound off the putter,

588
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 2: how that ball is going to fly through the air.

589
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 2: Do you need a ball that's better in the wind

590
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 2: or not? That is the kind of the final piece

591
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 2: of the puzzle, And I think around the first of

592
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 2: the year is the perfect time to make sure you're

593
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 2: in the right golf ball right because it's like which

594
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 2: ball am I going to use for the season. Of

595
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 2: course you can and should as new golf balls come

596
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,120
Speaker 2: out take a look at this. But I think going

597
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 2: through Balnamic, which is golf ball finning solution and software

598
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 2: which you can do with launch modern data or without.

599
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 2: We'll talk a little bit about that about once a season,

600
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 2: maybe twice a season, is the perfect cadence to make

601
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 2: sure that your clubs and golf ball how you wanted

602
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 2: to perform on the golf course is all marrying together

603
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 2: and understanding golf balls is tough. There's so many on

604
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 2: the market. They have such a diversity in how they perform.

605
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 2: They can change one model can change a lot from

606
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 2: year to year, so you can't you can't really just

607
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 2: say I've always played this ball, played the newest version,

608
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 2: because sometimes they can change quite a bit, and so

609
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 2: we designed Balnamic to help solve these problems. And going

610
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 2: through this, going through Ballnamic around the first year is

611
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 2: the perfect time to do.

612
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: It, do you, Marty? You know there's so many options

613
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: available with a lot of this technology at paying Do

614
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: you go through this stuff relatively consistent? I mean, are

615
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: you checking on the ball for your own golf game?

616
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you're such a great player. I mean, you

617
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: know we've talked about your accolades, but are these things

618
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: you're kind of checking in on a couple times a year,

619
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: once a year or so.

620
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 2: Yeah? No, absolute, Shane, I do, and I follow our

621
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 2: same process. You know you would if you were a

622
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 2: Mini Tour player or something. I schedule a fitting in

623
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 2: the off season, right, kind of like the Summery has

624
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 2: talked about, like, hey, we schedule a fitting and come in,

625
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 2: come in. And I kind of have to do that

626
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 2: because I'm so close to everything I And when I

627
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 2: schedule a fitting, I tell Brad Millard or one of

628
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 2: our master fitters here, treat me as if I'm I'm

629
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 2: just a tournament golfer, right and put me through all

630
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 2: the tools, the protocols, X ray my equipment, my game,

631
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 2: my launch condition. So absolutely, we're pulling up our launch

632
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 2: efficiency tool, which is one of my favorite in the

633
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 2: driver to make sure you're optimized from a launch and

634
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 2: spin standpoint. We're looking at the latest crop of balls

635
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 2: and is there a new option for me from Balnamic

636
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 2: because I spin my driver a little bit more than

637
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 2: are optimal, says, so I use golf ball to give

638
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 2: me net three hundred less spin in terms of driver flight. Right,

639
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 2: I'm always using the gaping app and that is awesome

640
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 2: to see if there's another option there, especially in my

641
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 2: long irons. And then iping. I go on iping at

642
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 2: least a couple times a year to see if anything's

643
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 2: changing my stroke because your stroke can evolve a little

644
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 2: bit over time, and to make sure I'm not making

645
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 2: any compensation, so one hundred percent, and I schedule that

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Speaker 2: to make sure it's kind of like a blocked intentional

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Speaker 2: thing on my calendar.

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Speaker 1: What about stat tracking? How do you go about your

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Speaker 1: stat tracking? Because I know you're someone that pays a

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Speaker 1: lot of attention to those types of things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so use I'm kind of in the research modes.

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Speaker 2: I use a bunch of different stat tracking apps. I

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Speaker 2: use arcos quite a bit for stat tracking, but I

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Speaker 2: experiment with a bunch of others. Golf Metrics really cool,

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Speaker 2: has some nice strokes gained features in there. Stack putting

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Speaker 2: is how I do my putting stats tracking now because

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Speaker 2: it gives the most granular insights for missus and I'm

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Speaker 2: pretty hardcore kind of aim pointer when I'm out there,

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Speaker 2: kind of always kind of figuring out, figuring out if

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Speaker 2: I'm at a one percent, two percent, three percent slope,

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Speaker 2: so that gives me the most granular insights from a

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Speaker 2: putting standpoint.

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Speaker 1: Do you think people that are listening to this podcast

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Speaker 1: are going to have their best golf in your ever?

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Speaker 1: I just feel like the advice you've given my goodness.

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Speaker 1: I mean, how do you not have a grade twenty four?

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Speaker 2: You know? Yeah, they are, Shane, I would say the

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Speaker 2: big things are take take a look at driver, take

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Speaker 2: a look at second figuration, make sure if your if

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Speaker 2: your wedges are degrading a little bit and grooves face friction,

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Speaker 2: spin generation, take a look at that. Make sure you're

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Speaker 2: in the right stroke type of putter. Consider a stats

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Speaker 2: tracking solution so you get those true, non biased insights

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Speaker 2: to your game. Set up some good golf habits and

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Speaker 2: have an awesome year.

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Speaker 1: And I got one last thing we haven't mentioned, but

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Speaker 1: I also see this a lot. You mentioned the groove faces,

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Speaker 1: and I think that is something people leave on the

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Speaker 1: cutting room floor way too often. They don't upgrade wedges.

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Speaker 1: They should be upgrading wedges in twenty four, especially with ping.

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Speaker 1: New wedges are meant, but grips. Pay attention to your grips.

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Speaker 1: If the grips are worn, you've had them for a

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Speaker 1: couple of years, and you play, you know, relatively consistent golf,

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Speaker 1: you play a couple times a month, you leave the

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Speaker 1: clubs in the trunk or whatever the case may be,

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Speaker 1: a clean them. But be consider whatever it is a

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Speaker 1: couple of hundred bucks to get your grips regripped. Because

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Speaker 1: you you mentioned the golf ball being such a such

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Speaker 1: an important part of the configuration, you know, of the

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Speaker 1: of the golf club and the golfer. I mean the

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Speaker 1: grips are the tires, right, I mean you don't want

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Speaker 1: ball tires driving in the rain like you want good grips.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fresh grips is a super big deal, especially if

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Speaker 2: you if you got you're not gonna look at replacing

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Speaker 2: your irons or maybe your driver's pretty dialed. Put fresh

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Speaker 2: grips on. There is a big one, Shane. I think

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Speaker 2: a couple other things for folks to check, especially if

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Speaker 2: you swap shafts. Let's say you swap shafts with a

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Speaker 2: buddy and your driver's shaft or something. Check your swing weights, okay,

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Speaker 2: whether you have a swing weight scale at home, your

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Speaker 2: local shop, your your golf course. Check your swing weights

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Speaker 2: a lot of times is a very basic one. If

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Speaker 2: you're struggling with one club going left or right or

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Speaker 2: low point control, check your swing weights if you've if

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Speaker 2: you've swapped anything out and on the metal wood standpoint.

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Speaker 2: Another one's shame to throw in. There is a fresh bag.

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Speaker 2: I think that provides a really good kind of uh

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Speaker 2: kind of mental uh you know, freshness to the ear.

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Speaker 2: Get your bag, get all your your your tea's, your train,

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Speaker 2: make sure you got to spot for your little training aids,

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Speaker 2: whatever you carry with you in your bag. That could

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Speaker 2: be a big deal too, to get your ear started

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Speaker 2: off fresh. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I just played golf a couple of weeks ago and

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Speaker 1: Caddy walked with the first tea and he goes, man,

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Speaker 1: I love when I see a hoof for and I go,

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Speaker 1: I know, and he goes, it's just there, just the best.

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Speaker 1: I said, I know, they're the best bag. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I had them when I was a junior golfer, I've

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Speaker 1: had them through college, and I've got one now and

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Speaker 1: I love it. So yeah, I think the golf bag

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Speaker 1: is a great call as well. You know what, Marty,

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Speaker 1: I went the kind of single carry bag for a bit,

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Speaker 1: but the stand is unbeatable. It just it might listen,

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Speaker 1: it might be eight ounces heavier, whatever the case may be,

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Speaker 1: than an on stand bag, but I will carry the

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Speaker 1: ounces more so that my I don't love this laying

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Speaker 1: it down and picking it up. I'm just I've become

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Speaker 1: a stand guy, even when I'm carrying myself same.

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Speaker 2: I like just getting the just a little bit easier

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Speaker 2: to get the clubs out of the bag, the switch clubs.

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Speaker 2: If you're between clubs, wind picks up. Man, It's so

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Speaker 2: much easier to throw Bindo your eight arm back in there.

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Speaker 2: Totally totally agree with you, Rob, You're seven well, Marty.

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Speaker 1: Happy new year, Man, super pumped for twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 1: Excited for all the content on this platform and what

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Speaker 1: we're going to be doing elsewhere. It's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: great year for us, gonna be a great year for

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Speaker 1: the golf world hopefully, and gonna be a great year

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Speaker 1: for the listeners because with all this advice and some

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Speaker 1: of the guests we have upcoming, I think it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be you know, I will say this all the feedback

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Speaker 1: I've got, Marty, I know you feel the same way

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Speaker 1: about the podcast. You know, we're eight nine months into

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Speaker 1: doing this podcast. It's been super fun to do. But

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Speaker 1: the feedback from you guys listening has been awesome. So

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Speaker 1: we always appreciate the messages and the tweets and the

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Speaker 1: and the you know, the things you guys send on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: It's great to hear from you, and we appreciate you

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Speaker 1: guys listening because it's been a lot of fun to

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Speaker 1: do so far.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Shane, I totally agree. I've got some awesome feedback. Hopefully.

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Speaker 2: Golfers are just are. My goal with this, Shane, is

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Speaker 2: to help golfers get better, play better golf, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean. So yeah, hopefully everyone got a little

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Speaker 2: you know, take a couple of those things from our

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Speaker 2: checklist or do them all would be awesome and get

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Speaker 2: your game dial chain. One thing we did want to

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Speaker 1: focus on the golf bag and play golf great. We're

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