1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: Ron and Amiens. I've been going there sixteen years and 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: my dad went there, and I've been a very good customer, 3 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: very long term. But i always feel like they charged 4 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: me a lot of money, and I'm never quite sure 5 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: if you're really doing the job right. But they're the 6 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: guys that go to because that's when my dad went, 7 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: and I trust them, but I don't trust them, but 8 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: I'm not really sure. But you're the only shop I trust. 9 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: And do you ever notice how much money they must 10 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: be making, because look at the service writers. The service 11 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: writers where those fancy wrist watches, and they have oldest jewelry, 12 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: and you know, you could feel your anxiety building Thanks 13 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: the car Doctor, I could see Danny's joy just drop 14 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: open more and more and more, to the point that 15 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: I thought he was gonna need oxygen or mouth to mouth. 16 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: And since I wasn't interested in giving him the second 17 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: and I wasn't able to provide the first, I thought 18 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: I'd better get him to sit down. I sent Danny 19 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: back out into the shop to sit down with his 20 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: head between his knees so he wouldn't faint. 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If 49 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: you get out to the Facebook page Ronindy in the 50 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: Car Doctor, if you can a couple of interesting videos. 51 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,239 Speaker 1: There's one there that talks about the difference between the 52 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,679 Speaker 1: carbon footprint of the electric vehicles versus gas engines. You 53 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: might want to take a look at that. It's kind 54 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: of a shocking bit of information. There's also some commentary 55 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: we just had in the previous hour and you can 56 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 1: pick it up on podcast as soon as Engineering gets 57 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: it up a little later tonight or tomorrow. UM, we 58 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: just had Peter mcgilray from SEEMA on air. We did 59 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: an interview with him regarding the recent e p A 60 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: bill legislation they want to turn into the law where 61 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 1: they're gonna band turning a street car into a race 62 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: car and all the problems that that's going to present. 63 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 1: So you can get more information there. You can get 64 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,679 Speaker 1: out the Seema dot org also s e m a 65 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 1: seema dot org and read about there and edge your 66 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 1: voice to it and be concerned. And you know, even 67 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: if you don't have an interest in it per se 68 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: as a you know, you're never gonna make a street 69 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: car into a race car. You think race cars are 70 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: noisy and you don't like race cars, great, you know what, 71 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: But it's it's it's it's another erosion of civil liberties 72 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: and freedoms in this country. And you've got to stop 73 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: to look at that and say where's it going? Because 74 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: it's clearly an overreach of the government. UM, So you 75 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: want to be aware of that. Also be aware that 76 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: coming up on March nineteen, if you're in the New 77 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: Jersey area, if you're the New York, New Jersey area, 78 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: March nineteenth, we're gonna be once again appearing at the 79 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: A s P n J New Jersey thirty ninth Annual 80 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: Northeast Automotive Services Show. UM Keeping Mind Northeast is an 81 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: event that is Taylory tailored specifically to the needs of 82 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: you as an automotive professional. For those among our audiences 83 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: that are automotive professionals, we know you guys are out there. UM, 84 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: we know you're in large numbers. I can tell by 85 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: the emails that I get and the way we have 86 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: these conversations. So we'll be down there doing this radio 87 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: show live from the floor of the meadow Lands Exposition 88 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: Center in so Caucus, New Jersey. That's March nine, that's 89 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 1: just around the corner. That's a month from now. Um, 90 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 1: So I guess Tom and Harry and Tony are gonna 91 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: bundle me up and take me out in the cold, 92 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: and um we'll be doing the radio show from there. 93 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: Um but without people want to know we're gonna dress 94 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: you up and take you out. Yeah, there you go. 95 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: So but but but will I make a good presentation? 96 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: That remains to be seen. That's debatable. So listen as 97 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: long as the mic is open in that direction. I'm 98 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: not even gonna do an opening conversation. I think we'll 99 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 1: save that for later if there's time. Um, the is 100 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: there's a lot going on this hour. We're gonna be 101 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: joined down around the bottom of the hour by Paul Eisenstein. 102 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 1: Paul is gonna stop by, and Harry said, what do 103 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: you want to talk to Paul about today? I said, anything, Paul, 104 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: Just there's a lot going on in the world of 105 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: automotive and polls always a good interview, So well, we're 106 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: looking forward to that. So we're gonna try and get 107 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:19,239 Speaker 1: as many calls in this first half hour as possible. Harry, 108 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: you're you're you're up at the mike. Wait, Tom turns 109 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: on your button, pretending like we're professionals here. Yeah, okay, 110 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 1: what can I do for you today? Who do you 111 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: got here? Well? Uh, Emory, Emory is in Maui, Hawaii, 112 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: and that in itself makes you want to just say 113 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: we'll take that call. Does he have the mute button 114 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:41,119 Speaker 1: off his phone this time? Yeah, Emory, come on, Dodge 115 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: Ram got a crank no start issue after foxing with it, 116 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: so uh, that's right up your alley. See what's going on? Okay, cool? 117 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: Thanks bro, Emory, there you go. Look at the mute 118 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: buttons off the phone this time. You threw me for 119 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: a loop lift lift hour. That's okay, I know. Yeah, 120 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: what's the what's its emperature there? Let me think about 121 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 1: and the and the ocean is so blue, it's it's 122 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 1: just incredible. Um temperature. Yeah, it's uh yeah, what's the 123 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: weather here? It's uh, it's fourteen degrees here, so um Yeah, 124 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: that doesn't work. But anyway, UM, what do you got here? Emory? 125 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 1: What's going on with this truck? I got a Dodge 126 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: Ram three fifty. It's a three eighteen five point two 127 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: Leader Class B r V and I recently bought it 128 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: and I can. When I try to start it, it'll crank, crank, crank, crank, crank, 129 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: nothing for about ten seconds. But as soon as that 130 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 1: nisition and turn the nissition back on, it will fire. 131 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: Does it when it's cold? Mostly if I'm driving it 132 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: around and do an errands and I stopped, it'll start 133 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 1: right back. That no problem. But usually when it's cold 134 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: or it sits for a while, it'll crank for a 135 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: long time. Did I have to turn off the ignition 136 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: and then try to recrank it again and it will 137 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: firelight turning on the ignition and let it sit there 138 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: and then crack it? Do you know are you missing 139 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: when it goes into this crank no start condition? Do 140 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: you know what you're missing? Are you missing spark? Are 141 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: you missing injector pulse? Are you missing fuel pressure? Have 142 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: you tested anything yet? Nothing? Nothing? Okay? What do you have? 143 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: All right? What do you have the ability to test? Uh? Nothing. 144 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: Really have to take it to a mechanic probably, Okay, Um, 145 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: where I would start? You know, it's it's let's let's 146 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: let's think of a lawnmower. A lawnmower doesn't start, it's spark, 147 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: fuel or mechanical single a simple one cylinder engine, automobile 148 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: or trucks, no different, you know, spark, fuel or mechanical. 149 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: I don't think this is mechanical. I'd be I'd be 150 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: hard pressed to think about how it could be mechanical. 151 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna think in terms of spark or fuel. 152 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: So where I would go? Probably the easiest thing to 153 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: do on this, on this ninety four RAM three fifty, 154 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: you know r V conversion where the engine is stuffed 155 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: in there, probably the easiest thing to do is to 156 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: find the ignition coil itself and go to the pot, 157 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: go to the hot side of the coil. Do you 158 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: have hot at the coil? If you have hot at 159 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: the coil, do you have spark? Or you could do 160 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: it the other way. You can check for spark first 161 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: and then do you have hot at the coil? But 162 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: you know, verified do we have spark? If you don't 163 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: have spark, while you're cranking it, then the next thing 164 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: I want to know is do you have injector pulse? 165 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: Because this this should be a port fuel injected motor. 166 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: Is this throttle body you know? I don't know. Um. 167 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: Either way, there's going to be an injector involved here, 168 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: and probably the easiest way on this vehicle it would 169 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: be to take a stethoscope, a mechanic stethoscope and listen, 170 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: does it click click click click click while you're cranking it? 171 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 1: And if it's port fuel injected, do they all click? 172 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: If it's single or tooth injectors in a throttle body, 173 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: does one or both of them click? Alright? We're just 174 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: trying to verify do we have the ability to drive 175 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: the injector. If we have power at the coil but 176 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: no spark and no injector pulse, then I'm gonna start 177 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: to think about maybe I've got a bad crank position 178 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: sensor and run some tests on that. That would not 179 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: be uncommon all right, um in the old days, And 180 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna mention this. I don't think this is the 181 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: problem memory, but I don't want to miss something simple 182 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,599 Speaker 1: and from my seat here, since you haven't flown me 183 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: out to Hawaii, yet it's it's it's too hard for 184 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: me to say. Um, hint, hint, nice remote eighty degrees. Um, 185 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna think about. In the old days, Chrysler ran 186 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: a dual stage ballast resistor that would bypass the main 187 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: main ballast resistor to up the voltage to the coil 188 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: to provide a hotter spark during cranking. And then once 189 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 1: it's started and you move the key back to the 190 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: next click, it then ran through the other side of 191 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: the ballast resist during it lower the amperage and lower 192 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: the voltage across the ignition, the points, what have you, 193 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: and allow the vehicle to run. A lot of times 194 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: those vehicles did that exact same condition and went into 195 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: a crank no start, just like you're describing. I really 196 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: doubt you have something like that on this vehicle. But 197 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: on the chance that you get into a you've got 198 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: fuel pressure, you've got injector pulse, and you have no 199 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 1: spark and you've got power at the coil, or you 200 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: don't have power at the coil and you can't figure 201 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 1: out why start looking through a wiring diagram. Is there 202 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: some type of a bypass or a cranking resistor that's 203 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: in this vehicle simply because you know it's an RV 204 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: and I'm not sure to what level it's different than 205 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: a standard production vehicle. Um, you know, just just just 206 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: want to cover the basis. But that's how I'd approach it. 207 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,839 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's it could be a bad ignition switch, 208 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 1: it could be a coil, it could be there's a 209 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: lot of things here. But until we know what we're missing, 210 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: I don't want to start replacing parts because that creates 211 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: a whole another set of problems into itself, all right, sir. Yeah, 212 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 1: it's the funniest, funniest thing. I could just turn the 213 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: ignition on, turn anition back on after cranking for ten 214 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: second up right, so we're you know, is it? You know? 215 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: And I'd be curious if you instead of released it 216 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: from the crank position, if you just kind of nudge 217 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:24,839 Speaker 1: the key back a touch so that so that you're 218 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: still cranking, but you just sort of change position of 219 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: the contacts, which contact points outside the ignition switch? Does 220 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 1: it start? And if it does, then I'm gonna think 221 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: we've got a bad ignition switch. And you can do 222 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: some testing there, all right, sir. I think think of 223 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: us when you want company, and we'll talk to you 224 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: again real soon. Take care bye bye. Zero nine nine 225 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: zero zero. Well, now that Harry has gotten shvelt, you know, 226 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: we can take him out in public and put him 227 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: in a bathing suit. This and the girls will all 228 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: leave the beach, right, the girls won't leave the beach 229 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: and they won't go whale hoo zero zero. The car 230 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: Doctor is coming back right after this. I'm thinking, can't 231 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: you see ye? Welcome back. We're don't needing of the 232 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: car Doctor. The mechanic machine here, we're all along, So alright, 233 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: that'll be enough out of you. Um sit down and 234 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: let's get over and open the phone lines. Rob in Northwood, 235 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: Ohio two thousand, g m C pick him up truck. Yes, Rob, 236 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: how can I help you run any of the car 237 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 1: Doctor at your service? Yes? Um. Uh. Last summer I 238 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 1: uh rebuilt the engine and transmission and uh I bought 239 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: a new code reader, and I thought I would check 240 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: in and see how everything uh was running. And uh uh, 241 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: everything seems to be fine, Phil trim and all that, 242 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: but the timing seems kind of excessive. Um. Let's running 243 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: at nineteen degrees. Okay, that's a little high, And I 244 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: think well you're saying you're reading it off the code 245 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 1: reader at nineteen degrees? Yes, Um, you really have no 246 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 1: base control? Is this this? This has gotten two thousand. 247 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think about two thousand. Looked like there 248 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: was a distributor in two thousand that's got a plastic 249 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: right right, right, right right, and there was a procedure 250 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: for setting base timing and you followed that. Yep, yep. 251 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,439 Speaker 1: I did it multiple times and it comes out the same. 252 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: Do you have not adjustable? Do you have right? No, 253 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: it's not. Do you have any issues with the truck 254 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: in the way that it runs, any detonation, any pinging? Any? 255 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: I think it's but it's got it's got plenty of power. Um, 256 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: well let me ask you this. Have you tried setting 257 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: the timing wrong? No, just to see what it does. See. 258 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: Part of the problem here is we're talking about a 259 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: sixteen year old vehicle and we don't know what good 260 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: looks like. Because I'm gonna admit to you right up front, 261 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: I've never sat there with a scanner. If I have, 262 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: I don't remember. You know, bothered to look at what 263 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: timing is based on what the scan tool saying, versus 264 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: you know what I said it to and what it's 265 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: running at. Um. Now, one thought I would have is, 266 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: wasn't There wasn't this the procedure where you had to 267 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: disconnect the wire and put it into E S T 268 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: motor change something to set timing. Wasn't There wasn't there 269 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: a special procedure for this. It wasn't just a matter 270 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: of hooking up the light. Am I thinking of the 271 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: wrong vehicle? Yeah? You might be thinking of the wrong vehicle. 272 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: There anything I know of. Its first saying is a 273 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: mechanical setting. You're lining up to U two dots on 274 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: the on the gear and distributor base, and you slip 275 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: it in and it rotates over to this uh points 276 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: to this point on the top of the distributor where 277 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: the cap goes. Okay, because this distributor has pinned into 278 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: the intake. Yeah it is okay. Um, because what I 279 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: was gonna what I was gonna ask was yeah, but 280 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: there was a procedure. Um, there's a procedure doing cam 281 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: retard offset on this m HM. There was something about that. 282 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: There's something about there's a there's a procedure using doing 283 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: something called came retard offset, which will change spark advance 284 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: on that particular engine and a lot of engines of 285 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: the era. And what I was trying to get to is, 286 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: if you know that the distributor is set properly. I 287 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: was thinking along the lines of if we set it 288 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: at zero, what does the scan tool read? But that's 289 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: not going to be the case here. I was thinking 290 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: we had to put it in a timing mode, but 291 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: that's not the situation. What I would do is go 292 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: research cam retard offset. That's kind of coming back to me, 293 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: uh that there's and you'll need a scan tool that 294 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: will allow you to do that procedure. Or this distributor 295 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: has some movement correct or is this pinned? This is 296 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: physically pinned, it's it's pinned. It's one um something about 297 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: checking cam retard offset on a scan tool, where in 298 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: other words, what you're doing is you're setting timing using 299 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: the scan tool. And if if it was pinned and 300 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: you can't move it, I believe they had you oval 301 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: the slot or make a change to allow slight movements 302 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: so you could find your position. But before you do that, 303 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: do some research on came retard offset. You know what? 304 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: Send me an email wrong at Car Doctor Show dot com. 305 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: Give me, give me the seven team digit vin Alight, 306 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 1: and I'll do a little research on my own and 307 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 1: i'll send it back to you and I'll see what 308 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: I can come up with for you on that, because 309 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: I'm kind of curious now now you got me. You 310 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 1: know it's it's sometimes information falls off that side of 311 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 1: the hard drive because you can't remember everything. So now 312 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 1: you gotta get curious and go back and look and 313 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 1: see what was it, even though you'll never use it again, 314 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: because that's just the way I fly. So all right, sir, 315 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: all right, thanks Rob, you take good care. Let's go 316 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: and talk to Dave Boston Masso to Honda and some 317 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: overheating issues. Maybe, Dave, what do you got uh the 318 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: poe to accord that, um my son's all right. Thermost 319 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: that was going up into the red zone, and I 320 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 1: had I checked the relay, the fuses and the fans 321 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: are all okay, okay. Then I sent it to a 322 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: mechanic and uh, he verified the same thing. But I 323 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: had him go ahead and replace the thermos that in 324 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: the tempt center and after that he said it on 325 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: back road it's going three quarters, but on the highway 326 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: it's still getting into the red and he's saying, even 327 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: though we did a pressure test and found no least, 328 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 1: he thinks it's the head gut. Well, what if we 329 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: do this? Can we pull the plugs when the engine 330 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 1: is called and pressurize the cooling system and see if 331 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: any coolant collects in the cylinders? Okay, yeah, I'm trying 332 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: to look at what are the next episodes of Well, 333 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: it would be that, and then the next step would 334 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: be I would take a compression adapter, hook up shop 335 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 1: air to a cylinder, all right, and pressurize it and 336 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 1: look at the cooling and the radiator. Do we any 337 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,199 Speaker 1: see any signs of bubbles over the long haul? Do 338 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 1: those two steps? They've called me back, and we'll go 339 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: from there, and I'll try and guide you accordingly. I'm 340 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: on any of the Car Doctor, Paulize and spine is next? 341 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 1: Don't go with welcome back. Weren't leaning of the Car Doctor? 342 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,239 Speaker 1: And uh it is kind of fun the Valentine's Day 343 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 1: edition of The Car Doctor. I knew Elvis was gonna 344 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 1: make an appearance here somewhere this weekend, and um, you 345 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: know Elvis is still rolling there? You go? I knew? 346 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: Is that who that is behind the microphone. Um, funny, 347 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: you look different today. You don't look like Tony so 348 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: but UM, I could tell anyway. Lot going on in 349 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: the world of automotive too. It's not just Valentine's Day, 350 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 1: it's um there's an a lot of automotive stuff going on, 351 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: and we thought it would be a great time to 352 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: reach out to our main go to guy in that 353 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 1: kind of a situation, Paul Eisenstein at Detroit Bureau the 354 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: Detroit Bureau dot com. Once again, Mr Eisenstein, Welcome back 355 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: to the Car Doctor. Sir, how are you Paul? Are 356 00:19:56,000 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: you there go with the Chicago Auto a Show? Yeah? 357 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: And what's going on there? It's a there's a there's 358 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: a there's a big to do with the Chicago Auto 359 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: Show this year. Correct, Yeah, it's uh, it's well, it's 360 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: one of the one of the traveling road shows as 361 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: that were. You know, there's a whole sequence of car 362 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: shows were in about halfway through the season. We've done 363 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: l A, We've done Frankfurt. We uh, we did Detroit. 364 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: So now we have Chicago and we've got a couple 365 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: more coming up. We've got the Geneva Show in New 366 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: York and then Beijing. So it's gonna be a busy season. 367 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 1: Now do you follow and go to all the shows? Paul? 368 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: I guess you have to write, Um, I'm not sure 369 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make it over to Geneva this year. I 370 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: have a few conflicting things going on, but that still 371 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: may happen. So I try to all the major shows 372 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 1: because it is a global auto industry and you really 373 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 1: cannot just cover it by just attending shows anymore. Yeah, 374 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 1: you've got you've got to be at all of them, right, 375 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, I could understand that. Well, let's stay here 376 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: on this side of the pond. Um, what do you 377 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: see at the Chicago Auto Show this year? What's the 378 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: big deal? I know, trucks are hot right now? Right? 379 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: Truck trucks? Uh? You know, of course, it depends on 380 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: your definition and any when I Yeah, well, it was 381 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 1: a different thing that back then. It was body on 382 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 1: framed vehicles. You know, you had a small number of 383 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 1: rugged SUVs, the old GEP, Cherokee, the Bronco of course, 384 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: pickup trucks. Today it's a very different thing. You get 385 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 1: a lot of vehicles, of course, minivans are included in that, 386 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: and then there's a lot of these so called crossovers. 387 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: Some of them look like suv s, some of them 388 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: look like nothing you've ever seen before. What exactly is 389 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: a Mercedes g L A, What exactly is an Infinity 390 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: q X thirty. But they go into the truck category, 391 00:21:55,280 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: and this is where the world is changing. Uh, chevro Ley, 392 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: you know, from what I was seeing, looks like they have, 393 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: um some really crazy new models. Uh. This year at 394 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 1: the show, Paul, I saw one. It was it was 395 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: a cross sectional cutaway. It was two sets of bucket 396 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 1: seats and then a bench seat in the back. And 397 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: I couldn't tell if it was an suv, if it 398 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 1: was a pickup truck, or what exactly it was. Any 399 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: chance you can identify that for us, Paul, Uh, Uh, 400 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: I think he's gone, look at that. Well, you know 401 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: that's what happens. You're um, you know, I think he's 402 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: uh yeah, you think we had a bad sell connection there, Tom, Yeah, 403 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: all right, well let's try and get him back and uh, 404 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: let's move on. There's a couple of the things we 405 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: can kind of talk about. UM. I want to talk 406 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: primarily about the fact that if you get out to 407 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: the car Doctor Facebook page and I've been banging this 408 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: drum all day today, UM, but I think it's important 409 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 1: we're talking about that. We were going to talk about 410 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: that with Paul um regarding electric cars, the electric cars, UM, 411 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:02,199 Speaker 1: I won't say they're an issue, but they're they're having 412 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: their problems in terms of appealing. If you get out 413 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 1: to the Facebook page, you will see there's a nice 414 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: little video we posted about the difference between the difference 415 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 1: between um uh electric cars and gas cars, and the 416 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: CEO to the carbon footprint that they leave and understand 417 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: we've got Paul back. Paul, you're there, sir. Yeah, my 418 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 1: apologies about that. The reception in the in this building 419 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 1: is pretty bad. Hope, can you hear me? All? Yeah? 420 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: Now now we're good. Now we're good. I was actually 421 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: I was saying before and thanks for making the effort 422 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 1: to get back to us. We appreciated the listeners due 423 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: to I'm sure um I had seen a cutaway UM 424 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 1: Chevy product. Chevy seems to be the big hit at 425 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: the show this year. The way the way they're talking, 426 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: I don't know how true that is, but some radical 427 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 1: new truck designs. Can you verify that for us? Well? Well, 428 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: of course we saw uh, some passenger car products over there. 429 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: Chevy brought out the one L E package, an old 430 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: high performance version uh that they are bringing back for 431 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: the samarow Uh. We see it both this time on 432 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 1: the sixth and the eight cylinder model, which is really new. 433 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: But we also saw the tracks and that gets back 434 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: to what we were talking about before I so rudely 435 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 1: disappeared on you. Uh, you know what, what are these 436 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 1: things anymore? What's what's the truck? What's a passenger car? 437 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,479 Speaker 1: And the Chevy tracks is a great example of that. 438 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: But this is a vehicle that is sowing wildly. I mean, 439 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: they can't keep up with demand. In fact, Chevy is 440 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: struggling to meet demands of the trucks. They'd probably be 441 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: selling more if they had enough capacity. Whether you're talking 442 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 1: about the mid sized Colorado remember that came back about 443 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: a year and a half ago, or traditional trucks like 444 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: the Silverado. The market for trucks is just exploading. And 445 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: I'll bet that if listeners were to be calling in 446 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 1: and giving their vote, the vast majority they're going to 447 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: say they buy a truck next time. You know, we'll 448 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: have to take a survey. May we'll start doing that. 449 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: We'll take a survey and then a couple of weeks 450 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 1: and see what people if they're in the market or 451 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 1: a new car, or even if they're not, if they 452 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 1: were going to go out and buy one, what would 453 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 1: they buy? Um? Interesting idea. Will post the results up 454 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,360 Speaker 1: on Facebook. So you know, we know trucks are hot. 455 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 1: And I guess the price of gas is helping the cause, right, 456 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: because the price of gas is so crazy low. Now 457 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: it's a dollar and a half to two dollars a 458 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 1: gallon everywhere in the country. Um, what's that? What's that doing? 459 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: I can understand why that's created helping create the truck resurgence? Um? 460 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 1: Is that? Is that having any kind of effect on 461 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: the electric cars? Mr? Tesla and the bunch. Well, first 462 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: of all, the interesting thing is that most of the 463 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 1: studies say that while low gas prices are encouraging people 464 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: to think about trucks, most of the experts seem to 465 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: suggest that even if gas prices go back up to two, 466 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 1: perhaps three even four dollars a gallon, we're probably not 467 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,199 Speaker 1: going to see a lot of people bail out of 468 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: the truck category to go back into passenger cards and 469 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: and think about it. Uh if if you've been shopping, 470 00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 1: I know you keep a good eye on what's going 471 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 1: on in the in the automotive market, the difference in 472 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: fuel economy between well, here's a good example. The Honda 473 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: fit Okay subcompact model thirty four miles a gallon. But 474 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: when you go and look at the Honda h r V, 475 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: which is the truck or crossover model based on the 476 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: same platform, it's only about three miles a gallon less. 477 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: Uh And and that's just not enough to make a 478 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 1: huge difference. It's not enough to get people when you're 479 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: talking thirty seven to thirty four miles a gallon, it's 480 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 1: not enough to get people to say, oh, I can't 481 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: afford this. I've got to go back to a traditional 482 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,199 Speaker 1: passenger car. I'll take one over. The people like like 483 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,640 Speaker 1: the benefits, you know, people like the size. I think 484 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: America is still in love with big vehicles and and 485 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 1: the size and the security and being able to put 486 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: everything you want. You know, we we were in a 487 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: as a family, we were in a twenty fifteen Jeep 488 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: Grand Cherokee last weekend. Um, we were out doing a 489 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: little uh, you know, road testing and piloting and interesting 490 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: to know. You put five people pull in that vehicle, 491 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: there's no room for anything else. Uh, there's not a 492 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: lot of trunk space. It's not like you could take 493 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: that car out on vacation. Uh. You would need a 494 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: roof rack to do it for suitcases. So that's true, 495 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: you need bigger here. Here's here's the interesting thing. Uh, 496 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: when you look at one of these these crossover vehicles 497 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 1: and you compare it to a similar vehicle, in many 498 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 1: cases based on the same platform. Remember most of these 499 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 1: so called SUVs these days are based on passenger platforms, 500 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: so you can make a direct comparison. And if you 501 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:40,360 Speaker 1: look at the Honda Fit versus the Handa HRV, you're 502 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: getting a ton of extra space. All of a sudden, 503 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 1: You've got a lot more leg room, you're sitting more upright, 504 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: you've got to command view of the road. And this 505 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: is the sort of thing that makes the big difference 506 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: that matters to consumers. That's why in many cases they're 507 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:58,360 Speaker 1: willing to go for the slight reduction in fuel economy 508 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:02,239 Speaker 1: and that's slightly higher uh MSRT. Right, Hey, Paul, we're 509 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: gonna pull over and take a pause. When we come back, 510 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,959 Speaker 1: I want you to think about two things. Electric cars? 511 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: What's going on with Mr Tesla? Um? And this may 512 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,959 Speaker 1: be off the wall, but I'm just curious any mention 513 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 1: of hydrogen fuel cell at the Chicago Orto show when 514 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,959 Speaker 1: he talked about what the future UM might bring him. 515 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: Just curious to see if that ever gets mentioned. And 516 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 1: then we'll talk about that when the Car Doctor returns 517 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 1: Paul Eyes in sign of the Detroit Bureau. We'll be 518 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: back right after this love last nine. You're fine your mind? 519 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: Oh the valin Time's day edition of Ronomanning the Car 520 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: Doctor here, I am. I can't wait till this weekend's past. Um. 521 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: By the way, just real quick, Tonight is um big kickoff? 522 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,959 Speaker 1: Does anybody know what happens tonight before we go back 523 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: to Paul Eisen's nine? So tonight's first NASCAR race Daytona 524 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: I think runs tonight, So we're back to auto racing 525 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: before the EPA bands that. Paul you're there, sir, Yes, 526 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: I am, Um, Mr Tesla before we're gonna we're gonna 527 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: go quick before the clock takes us in four minutes. Um, 528 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: what's going on with Tesla? He's not doing too great? 529 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: Those electric cars of his? Are they well, you know, 530 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:37,719 Speaker 1: it's a crazy story here. The market has well, let 531 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: me talk to the stock market. The stock market seemed 532 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: ready to walk away from Mr Chesla, Mr Elon Musk 533 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: and his electric car company. UH stock prices as of 534 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: late last week fell to about a half of their 535 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: two year high. But what's really strange. This is where 536 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: it gets totally confusing, and I am not smart enough 537 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: to say throughout the stock market and this sort of 538 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: stuff happens. Would you believe that he reported instead of 539 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: the small profit that was expected from Tesla Motors, instead 540 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: they wound up reporting a big loss. Okay, Now, what 541 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: would you expect the stock market to do? Um, if 542 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 1: he's reporting the laws, I'd expecting the back away. Yeah. Well, 543 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: instead of backing away after backing away for months, stot 544 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: the stock surge, they actually had a big build up 545 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: in the stock price at the end of the week 546 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: after reporting that big loss. Now what's helping is that 547 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 1: there's a lot of talk about what they're gonna do next. So, 548 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: for example, they're going to start taking orders in a 549 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: matter of days or weeks for the new model Free, 550 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: their mainstream electric vehicle. But I can't figure it out. 551 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: It just totally makes no sense. Tesla has a horrible 552 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 1: quarter that production is down, and the stock market comes 553 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: rallying back. Well, you know, just just as an aside. 554 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: And this is clearly opinion, and I'm just speculating, But 555 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: what I've been reading lately about electric cars and their 556 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: cost to produce, it seems like without government support and 557 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: taxpayer dollars, the electric car wouldn't even be a reality. So, 558 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: you know, is the stock market pumping up the electric 559 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: car Tesla included in order to make it a viable 560 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: alternative and somehow hold down the price of gasoline because 561 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: it sends shivers to our friends over in the Middle East. 562 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: And uh, that's clearly speculation on my part as an 563 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: American citizen. So m but it just doesn't make you wonder. 564 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,479 Speaker 1: I'm not sure Wall Street would would care one way 565 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: or the other. They just gonna put the money where 566 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: they think they can make money. But what's interesting is 567 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: that the cost of building an electric vehicle is dropping. 568 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if you've happened to see the new 569 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: issue of Wired magazine, which you know is the tech 570 00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: industry bible. So and and the cover has very Bara, 571 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: the CEO of General motives on it with the new 572 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: Chevy Bolt with a Bee. You may recall that that 573 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: was introduced to the Consumer Electronics Show and then they 574 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 1: had a second introduction at the Detroit Auto Show a 575 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: week later, about a month ago, and Mary Barra has 576 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: actually beaten her team has beaten Tesla to market with 577 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: an affordable long range electric vehicle. It's two hundred miles 578 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 1: and if you include the federal tax credits, you're talking 579 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: about roughly thirty thousand dollars. Now, this wouldn't have been possible. 580 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: If you think about it would not have been possible 581 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: a decade ago. The batteries in that car, the battery 582 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: pack would have cost twice as much as what the 583 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: advers consumer is going to be able to buy the 584 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: vehicle for. It would have cost fifty to sixty dollars. 585 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: But the price of batteries has begun to plunge. It's 586 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: gone from about a thousand dollars a kilo one hour 587 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 1: to about a hundred fifty dollars is what g is 588 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: paying for the battery cells, not the all the accouterments. 589 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: And if you do the math real quickly, a thousand 590 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: times sixty is sixty tho dollars is what they would 591 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: have paid at the beginning of the decades. Instead, the 592 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: current cost is about about what nine thousand dollars something 593 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, real quick with the wow. So the 594 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: price is dropping um very quickly, very very quickly, very quickly. 595 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 1: So so so the question is will will electric vehicles 596 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: bounce back? Will the Chevy volt with a V you know, 597 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: their second generation plug in hype but just had its 598 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,479 Speaker 1: best month ever in January. Uh so that's that's an 599 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 1: interesting sign. I can't tell you what's going to happen. 600 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 1: I can just tell you that there's a lot of 601 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: people that want to see electri five vehicles take off. 602 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: And I don't think we're going to see the industry 603 00:33:55,080 --> 00:34:00,479 Speaker 1: back down, not with the tough fuel economy standards coming. Well, well, 604 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: we'll have to see where it goes. And you know what, 605 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: we're gonna have to leave it there, Paul, the clock 606 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: is gonna take us to be continued. Next time around, 607 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 1: I want to talk about hydrogen fuel cell. We'll get 608 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,359 Speaker 1: to that part of it and uh, we'll go from there. Listen, 609 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,280 Speaker 1: enjoy the rest of the Auto show, and as always, 610 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 1: thanks for being on the Car Doctor. We appreciate it, sir, 611 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: my pleasure. Sorry to have so much noise in the background. 612 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,799 Speaker 1: That's okay, We're glad to have you noise and all sir, 613 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,399 Speaker 1: you're you're always great. I'm running any in the Car Doctor. 614 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: We are back right after this, Welcome back Running of 615 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor. Phone number here is eight zero nine 616 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: zero zero. There's no more time for coals today, but 617 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: I want to point out as old ways eight five 618 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 1: five zero nine nine zero zero seven number. Call leave 619 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 1: a message fast. Harry, our executive producer, will call you 620 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: back and get you in the lineup for next week 621 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 1: when we were on the year, so that everyone can 622 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: hear your problem and we'll give you the solution and 623 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 1: we educate everybody. That's what The Car Doctor is all about. 624 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 1: A couple of things, um big NASCAR race on tonight, 625 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 1: NASCAR launches their six season, and I think that's kind 626 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 1: of appropriate. Since we were talking about how the e 627 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,800 Speaker 1: p A is going to try and band turning production 628 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,839 Speaker 1: cars into race cars recent bill that they passed. We 629 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,839 Speaker 1: interviewed Peter mcgilay from SEEMA seema dot org for more 630 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,479 Speaker 1: information big press release there about what EPA is trying 631 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: to do in the first hour we talked to him, 632 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: and then this second hour we talked to Paul Eisenstein 633 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 1: the Detroit Bureau. Sorry for the technical difficulties. We're actually 634 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 1: taking Paul right off the show floor. And UM, that 635 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 1: shows you how up and close into the heat of 636 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 1: the moment we are. And but as always, we appreciate 637 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 1: Paul's efforts. And uh, I've been trying to give us 638 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: a front page view of what's going on. If you 639 00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 1: want more information about what Paul does, and uh, excellent writer. 640 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 1: I can't say enough good things about Paul. Get out 641 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 1: to the Detroit Bureau dot com. You can read more 642 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,839 Speaker 1: there and uh, see what that's all about. And we're 643 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 1: talking about racing. I want to point out that General Tire. 644 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: General Tire became the presenting sponsor sponsor of the ARCIST 645 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 1: season opening Daytona race UM the Lucas Oil driven by 646 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 1: General Tire is set for February thirteenth, that's today, that's tonight, 647 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: half hour Eastern time for thirty pm Eastern time. General 648 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 1: Tire is building on his partnership as the official tire 649 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,799 Speaker 1: of the arc A Racing Series presented by Menards and 650 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 1: will become the presenting sponsor of the upcoming Arcus season 651 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,399 Speaker 1: opening race at the World Center of Racing, so that's 652 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 1: about a half hour from now um. But again shows 653 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,800 Speaker 1: the effort General Tire is making to help bring a 654 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 1: sport to the public. So I want to thank them 655 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 1: for that. And there's always I'm Ronanai in the car. Doctor, 656 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 1: I want to thank you for being here until the 657 00:36:48,440 --> 00:37:00,879 Speaker 1: next time. The mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless see seven.