Speaker 1: I Am all in. Oh, I am all in with
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Speaker 1: I am Scott Patterson and this is the I Am
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Speaker 1: What an episode? Rory's Dance? What is going on? Where's Luke?
Speaker 1: Luke was not in the episode? Did I shoot some
Speaker 1: scenes and they got cut? I don't remember. I don't
Speaker 1: know you have any clue, because my gut feeling is
Speaker 1: that you you did a scene for this episode that
Speaker 1: they had to cut, and it was known if you
Speaker 1: didn't work for a week, the audience couldn't handle it
Speaker 1: was too powerful. It was too powerful. Were you surprised
Speaker 1: when you watched the episode and you weren't in it? No,
Speaker 1: I was too engaged in the episode. I didn't I
Speaker 1: didn't care. I told you I don't like watching myself,
Speaker 1: so I was kind of happy. At what point did
Speaker 1: you realize I'm not in this um after it was
Speaker 1: done and I said, wait, I wasn't in that. I
Speaker 1: really enjoyed this episode. I realized until the second time
Speaker 1: I watched it. I had a call Danielle and I
Speaker 1: was like, what Scott in that the seeds of my
Speaker 1: podcast career planted early on. Yes, I need a backup plan. No,
Speaker 1: I was in the episode. No, the diner was in
Speaker 1: the background and when she ran out of miss Patties
Speaker 1: and said, no, I have to get home. I have
Speaker 1: to get home. No, let me explain it to your
Speaker 1: as being in it. Well, it's in my contract, guess.
Speaker 1: But I got paid for that episode. But do you
Speaker 1: remember any scenes that just didn't make it there? There
Speaker 1: might have been that scene with Sean Gunn and I
Speaker 1: in a massive fist fight, but it probably No, No,
Speaker 1: not at all. No, I just wasn't it. I guess
Speaker 1: I wasn't in the episode. You didn't save your scripts,
Speaker 1: did you sure? I did. I have every single script
Speaker 1: in plastic, and I have every single rehearsal script, and
Speaker 1: I have every single table read script. I have literally
Speaker 1: hundreds of scripts. Hello, can you go into the garage
Speaker 1: where all the gum is and find out if that
Speaker 1: script is in there, because maybe there's something in the script. Dude,
Speaker 1: those scripts are in storage in a vault guarded by
Speaker 1: Doberman pinchers with razor wire. That's how you're gonna put
Speaker 1: your kid into college with that money? My kid's gonna
Speaker 1: get a scholarship, a robotics scholarship. He's not gonna need
Speaker 1: me to pay for it. I just you don't think
Speaker 1: there's something in the script that was a scene that
Speaker 1: you shot but then they had to edit it out
Speaker 1: because did that ever happen? No? No, no, no. The
Speaker 1: planning of those scripts was very detailed and very specific,
Speaker 1: and um, I think they must have been getting feedback
Speaker 1: for the first six or seven episodes that maybe it
Speaker 1: was I was taking over the show and they had
Speaker 1: to pull the character. I mean, Suki was barely in it.
Speaker 1: Suki was barely in it. Michelle wasn't in it. Wait
Speaker 1: was he? Michelle was not in it? Was it? No? No, no, no, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was early on. They were still figuring out, you know,
Speaker 1: where the character was going and you know what was happening.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. No, I wasn't in it,
Speaker 1: but Luke's diner was in it in the background, and
Speaker 1: that's enough. Well, and the end of the episode, I know,
Speaker 1: I'm going out of order, but the end of the
Speaker 1: episode was garly dramatic, like that was hardcore, Like when
Speaker 1: she's like, you're going on the pill and Rory's like,
Speaker 1: you know, I wouldn't sleep with him. Like the whole
Speaker 1: thing was like, Oh, this is the worst thing they've
Speaker 1: had yet. Yeah, that was a that was a real
Speaker 1: I mean your kids out to I mean, she she
Speaker 1: fell asleep because Emily gave her some pills, right she
Speaker 1: got Lauren felt I mean Laura I fell asleep because
Speaker 1: she was on mild sedatives her back there was no
Speaker 1: Suki gave it to her, right and and yeah, they
Speaker 1: both fell asleep. And I don't know, you know what
Speaker 1: really a couple of he I was thinking about this
Speaker 1: last night. I said, teenage seventeen year olds. They're not drinking, Uh,
Speaker 1: they're they're in there falling in love or they're in love.
Speaker 1: They're excited, they're excitable, they're full of energy. How do
Speaker 1: they walk into Miss Patties and then all of a
Speaker 1: sudden fall asleep because we know it was only like,
Speaker 1: wasn't it was maybe ten thirty they bail on the
Speaker 1: dance early. It might have been ten What the heck
Speaker 1: happened in Miss Patties that they just fell asleep? I
Speaker 1: mean they didn't smoke a joint worn out from the
Speaker 1: fight with Tristan and the stacking of the beans and
Speaker 1: worn out. It's a Tacos suki bro. When I was seventeen,
Speaker 1: I didn't conk once. I don't care how much stress
Speaker 1: I had in my day. Seventeen year olds can stay
Speaker 1: until four in the morning without for three days in
Speaker 1: her own and they're still like bouncing around. I mean, wow,
Speaker 1: maybe there's a gas leak in Miss Patties. I think
Speaker 1: it happened, because then we get the crazy scene where
Speaker 1: she's running and why it happened. Dude, they're nodding out.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just wanted to point that out
Speaker 1: to the paying audience. It's like, what, well, okay, so
Speaker 1: really it's a Emily lore life fight that then came
Speaker 1: a lure like Rory catastrophe. That was just typical dumping
Speaker 1: on your kid after you'd had a confrontation with your mother.
Speaker 1: You know, the big ugly monster that Emily can be. Um.
Speaker 1: I mean, she's right, but she's wrong at the same time, right,
Speaker 1: and Rory called her out on it. Rory kind of said,
Speaker 1: this is not about me, this is about your mom's right.
Speaker 1: I wasn't all together surprised when she started opening up
Speaker 1: on on Rory right away. Because you know she supported her.
Speaker 1: I trust my kid in this, but you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know. It kind of makes sense, uh, that mother
Speaker 1: of her really triggers her. I mean really, and it
Speaker 1: was they were getting along and yeah, so then we
Speaker 1: were in for a big old boom. But you know,
Speaker 1: Rory kind of deserve that she was out all night.
Speaker 1: She conned at ten thirty. What it's not So from
Speaker 1: Laurelized point of view, she's probably thinking the same thing.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking. You're a teenager, you don't conk what's going on.
Speaker 1: You have too much energy to Oh, I just fell
Speaker 1: asleep and miss Patty's I wouldn't have believed it either.
Speaker 1: I think a mother would think my kid's been in
Speaker 1: a car accident. I think all that fear. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I and I know that Laurel I was thinking, um um,
Speaker 1: I'm just fronting from my mother to defend my kid.
Speaker 1: But I'm still pissed at my kid because I want
Speaker 1: a damn explanation. But I'm not going to break in
Speaker 1: front of my mother because I'm not going to give
Speaker 1: her the satisfaction that she's right but wrong doing this
Speaker 1: inside my own home. Amazing performance by all three, completely
Speaker 1: nailed it, nail just killed it. Just beautiful stuff. Um,
Speaker 1: and I mean, what can you say? What can you say? Uh,
Speaker 1: perfect ending, sitting down, covering herself, breaking down, just one
Speaker 1: of those days and just be a mom. You know
Speaker 1: every mom goes through it. It's real life happening before
Speaker 1: our eyes. It's three generations of real life happening before
Speaker 1: our eyes. Um. Yeah, just wonderful stuff, wonderful, great episode.
Speaker 1: It's the episode I started liking Dane and Tristan. I
Speaker 1: really thought Paris was certifiable. Good God, oh my god.
Speaker 1: And with the cousin and the whole thing is god sad.
Speaker 1: And then first when Tristan is buying the ticket and
Speaker 1: he sort of teases, like you got a date, the
Speaker 1: first time he's actually vulnerable with Rory. I mean that's
Speaker 1: when he we see that he needs her, wants her,
Speaker 1: really likes her. It's not just a game now, it's
Speaker 1: like he really needs there's a need there. Um, there
Speaker 1: was a need before just to play the game, because
Speaker 1: he's just testing her the way Laura I tested Max,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and tests me and you
Speaker 1: know that kind of thing distance distantance. So um yeah,
Speaker 1: but I mean the takeaway from me, is is in
Speaker 1: that dynamic with those characters. The only thing that dated
Speaker 1: that show for me was the behavior of Paris. I mean,
Speaker 1: that kind of behavior was isn't gonna fly today? Isn't
Speaker 1: amazing how that particular character in that situation didn't age well.
Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, like I said previously, I mean,
Speaker 1: if she can't handle Um, if she can't handle Rory
Speaker 1: and and and Tristan, if she's gonna trigger to that
Speaker 1: degree where she's like physically and verbally violent, like bordering
Speaker 1: on psychosis, how is she going to handle Harvard? I mean,
Speaker 1: there's a thousand Tristan's there. There's there's a thousand Rorris there.
Speaker 1: I mean, she's gonna freak out over there in Harvard.
Speaker 1: Harvard's ten thousand students, it's ten thousand students undergraduates, and
Speaker 1: it's twenty graduate students. So you know, it's it's it's
Speaker 1: not a huge campus. It's not a huge college, but
Speaker 1: it's you know, there's enough people there. Paris is going
Speaker 1: to be in trouble. She's not a type of person
Speaker 1: you want to go to Harper No. I mean you
Speaker 1: know that that Paris is always sort of on the
Speaker 1: edge of good God losing it. But I mean she
Speaker 1: came on glued. I'm glued perfect. She came on glued
Speaker 1: through that entire she started abusing the poor little fellow
Speaker 1: sitting next to her who was getting the change. At
Speaker 1: least she didn't recite Shakespeare and somebody's here here well,
Speaker 1: I mean, at least that's you know, that's sort of
Speaker 1: harnessing the rage and turning it into something else, which
Speaker 1: is you know, there's there's some art and that, there's
Speaker 1: some there's that that's poetic. But I mean she's just
Speaker 1: out and out, just like Lunacy throughout the whole episode.
Speaker 1: You kind of do love the comic relief teenage noss
Speaker 1: of Louise and Madeline. They're always there to just be
Speaker 1: teenage like and kind of honey and Madeleine always having
Speaker 1: the last word and coming off like a nice person.
Speaker 1: But what the hell she dealing with Louise, which makes
Speaker 1: it even more funny. It's like, what are they doing together?
Speaker 1: It's like Madeline kind of playing along the the goofy sidekick,
Speaker 1: and she doesn't she's not really into it, but she is,
Speaker 1: and she says she's sorry, and you're a nice persons
Speaker 1: all of a hot mess at that dance, that's for sure. Um,
Speaker 1: And where were the teachers to break up that fight?
Speaker 1: They were dancing, they were all day. I saw a
Speaker 1: lot of older people on the dance floor dancing. They
Speaker 1: were the teachers, they had to be. Couldn't have been
Speaker 1: the students, you know. But Dean, boy, he didn't waste
Speaker 1: any time, doesn't He gets her on the dance floor.
Speaker 1: Let's make out. Let's go. And Tristan wanted to make
Speaker 1: out with that date too, even in his like longing
Speaker 1: for Rory, he was like, Okay, I'll make out with
Speaker 1: my date too. Did she become more desirable because she
Speaker 1: had Dean there? Who become more desirable? Oh? God? Far more?
Speaker 1: Are you kidding? I mean, you bring a kid like
Speaker 1: Dean into the prom and everybody's gonna be talking about
Speaker 1: I was not the prom, but the dance, but everybody's
Speaker 1: gonna be talking about a gossip me gossiping about him?
Speaker 1: And uh. I thought Dean did very well for himself
Speaker 1: in this episode. He really was a stand up guy.
Speaker 1: He became he was crowned the boyfriend and he he
Speaker 1: deserves her heart at that At that point in time,
Speaker 1: I mean that's that's a very very chivalrous, romantic, Uh,
Speaker 1: A manly thing to do is like get away from
Speaker 1: my girlfriend. You know, it's wonderful. And you know, as
Speaker 1: old fashioned as that seemed, it's you know, sometimes it's necessary,
Speaker 1: and it was necessary in that situation. And she was
Speaker 1: being harassed by Um Tristan. I mean it's just no
Speaker 1: matter how much you know I liked him, or he's
Speaker 1: becoming vulnerable. I mean, he was a problem. I mean,
Speaker 1: she was going to Chiltern, trying to learn, trying to
Speaker 1: further her education and get into Harvard, and you've got
Speaker 1: this jackass kid just just mocking her, just disrespecting her
Speaker 1: every time he showed up. Um, even though his reasons
Speaker 1: for it are probably understandable, You're right, he really he's
Speaker 1: a jerk to her. He's a total jerk, and he's inappropriate.
Speaker 1: And I yeah, I think I think both those characters
Speaker 1: probably they're not aging well you know what I mean. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there were there were a few parts where it was
Speaker 1: a little bit like whoa this is? That's that's very
Speaker 1: two thousand. It's very two thousand. Okay, everybody, we're gonna
Speaker 1: take a break when we come back. We're gonna talk
Speaker 1: more about Tristan, the wonderful Tristan, the complex Tristan. We'll
Speaker 1: be back. Yeah, sorrybody, We're we're gonna get into a
Speaker 1: little bit of Chad Michael Murray Tristan uh memories here. Uh.
Speaker 1: He was just on the Today Show and he was
Speaker 1: discussing how people react to his character in a very
Speaker 1: surprising way to him and I think a surprising way
Speaker 1: to us and everybody listening. People came up to him
Speaker 1: and and said that they actually really loved his character.
Speaker 1: He you know, he he was expecting. You know, usually
Speaker 1: people are you know, are very critical of his character,
Speaker 1: you know, negative encounters with fans, but he says they've
Speaker 1: they've been very positive, and he's very surprised by it.
Speaker 1: So let's let's get into that a little bit, because
Speaker 1: this is a big episode for Tristan. And uh, what
Speaker 1: do you guys think about this? Do you love him?
Speaker 1: Do you hate him? Do you love to hate him?
Speaker 1: And also we sort he changed changes a little bit
Speaker 1: too right now. He's pretty awful. I wanted to love him,
Speaker 1: and I did love him, and I wanted to give
Speaker 1: him a hug when he was standing there when the
Speaker 1: camera hit him and he was watching Dean and Rory
Speaker 1: kiss on the dance floor. I felt bad for the guy.
Speaker 1: I've been that guy. I've been in his shoes. Every
Speaker 1: guy has been in his shoes with a girl that
Speaker 1: he wants. And I was no Tristan. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to compare myself to Tristan. Uh, but that hurts.
Speaker 1: That's a gut shot. You're gutted, and boy I felt
Speaker 1: bad for I wanted to give him a hug. I
Speaker 1: started liking very similar to you in the episode before
Speaker 1: seeing Max and Laurela. It was sort of that same
Speaker 1: gut wrenching Yes, Scott, I totally agree with you. Up
Speaker 1: until this episode, I was very much like, oh, he
Speaker 1: calls her rry, can he please stop? He's so snobby
Speaker 1: and annoying and popular. And this episode, I I it
Speaker 1: took a second. I was like, oh, no, there's something
Speaker 1: more there, Like I got a little soft spot for him.
Speaker 1: It was the first time that I actually felt that way.
Speaker 1: And and it was when Rory was standing in line
Speaker 1: to buy the ticket for the dance and he came
Speaker 1: up and he was his arrogant jackass self, But then
Speaker 1: you realize that he really, he's getting a little more
Speaker 1: vulnerable with her, He's revealing a little more, and he's
Speaker 1: asking her, you know, still indirectly, but asking her to
Speaker 1: go to the dance with him, and it bothers him.
Speaker 1: So I kind of started like, oh, okay, all right,
Speaker 1: isn't it amazing what vulnerability does. It's just it's just
Speaker 1: it's just gosh. Preston is exactly that guy, the guy
Speaker 1: that's popular and handsome but insecure and sort of deals
Speaker 1: with it by being kind of a jerk. It made
Speaker 1: me think hard, what's going on at his home? What's
Speaker 1: happening with mommy and daddy? What's going on? I mean,
Speaker 1: it's like, there's there's some bad stuff going on. His
Speaker 1: dad drinking is what's his dad treating him like crap?
Speaker 1: Is dad having an affair? It's like, what's going are
Speaker 1: their mental issues at home? What's happening that poor kid?
Speaker 1: Agree with you? I felt the same way, And I
Speaker 1: also thought he was the ultimate pulls your hair because
Speaker 1: he likes you. That That was then I started becoming
Speaker 1: like feeling parental toward him, like wanting to reach out
Speaker 1: and and take his hand and say, hey, bud, let's
Speaker 1: let's let's go on a little walk, you know, and
Speaker 1: tell me what's going on in your life. And you know,
Speaker 1: I wanted to help him. I'm at that stage of
Speaker 1: my life where I have a little bit of wisdom,
Speaker 1: you know, a little bit, and and I really wanted
Speaker 1: to help that kid. And I thought, boy, he's in trouble.
Speaker 1: He's in big trouble because he's looking like he's going
Speaker 1: to fail in life, like if he's if he's this way,
Speaker 1: he's this wound up. And I know Rory is extraordinary,
Speaker 1: for for sure, she's extraordinary, but uh, and I have
Speaker 1: the same thought about Paris too. If she's this wound
Speaker 1: up about Rory at at Chilton, what the hell is
Speaker 1: she going to react like when she gets to Harvard
Speaker 1: when there's a thousand Rory's and there's a thousand Tristan's.
Speaker 1: I agree, it sort of makes sense why Chad Michael
Speaker 1: Murray recently said that people come up and say I
Speaker 1: love Tristan because they must understand what's really going on.
Speaker 1: But first you're like, he's such an ass. But as
Speaker 1: an actor, right, the sensitivity of Chad and what he
Speaker 1: did in that moment and the way he looked at
Speaker 1: her and the way he felt it completely transformed my
Speaker 1: opinion of him. It made me see that's called layering
Speaker 1: a character character and that's again right, writing, great acting.
Speaker 1: These kids are really good actors. Jesus. These kids are
Speaker 1: so young and they're so good at what they do.
Speaker 1: I think I think he was eighteen at the time too.
Speaker 1: They're just kids. It's not surprising that this show got
Speaker 1: him the lead on One Tree Hill. It, Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: not surprising at all. I mean, he's showing a real
Speaker 1: depth of uh. I mean, just wow. His soul was
Speaker 1: ruined watching her dance with and kissing ruined. He was
Speaker 1: just ruined. And the way he kind of went limp
Speaker 1: a little bit and he you know, he confronted Dean
Speaker 1: and you know, hey, we haven't met, and then and
Speaker 1: then he escalated. But even the way he did that,
Speaker 1: and that's a tough scene for for Chad to play
Speaker 1: because he's got to come off tough, but he also
Speaker 1: has to, you know, go limp a little bit in
Speaker 1: the face of an obviously stronger uh and a more
Speaker 1: righteous Dean in the situation, and it's like, how does
Speaker 1: he play it? So at a certain point in that scene,
Speaker 1: the confrontation scene with Dean. With Dean is I think
Speaker 1: he realized and he made his choice as an actor.
Speaker 1: He realized that he was in the wrong, that he
Speaker 1: was the weaker person, and that Dan Dean made him
Speaker 1: realize that, and he actually felt shame. I felt the
Speaker 1: same way physically, he sort of really Yeah, he kind
Speaker 1: of gave up so beautifully. Yes, it was. It was.
Speaker 1: It's so difficult to do, and he did it beautifully.
Speaker 1: He did it beautifully. He kind of manned up. But
Speaker 1: then he, you know, he knew he was in the wrong,
Speaker 1: and I think he pulled back because he realized that,
Speaker 1: especially when he went in for the last time and
Speaker 1: and and Dean just said before they started pushing each other, Um,
Speaker 1: he just kind of you could see in his eyes
Speaker 1: a light go out a little bit like this, he
Speaker 1: wasn't going to get his way. And I think it
Speaker 1: was almost he was almost doing it because he didn't
Speaker 1: want to get his way. I think he did it
Speaker 1: because he wanted Dean to beat him up. I think
Speaker 1: he did it because he thought he deserved to get
Speaker 1: beaten up. Yeah. I don't think any of what you're
Speaker 1: saying is wrong. I think you're kind of right. I
Speaker 1: can't decide if he's spoiled or what the deal is,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I think he's just super sad on the inside.
Speaker 1: I think he's he's very wealthy, he's very privileged. He's
Speaker 1: so handsome. Yeah, great looking kid, and it's got everything
Speaker 1: going for him. But boy, what a facade because there's
Speaker 1: a hurt, wounded soul behind that thing, and it's so
Speaker 1: interesting to see it. It's really interesting for him to
Speaker 1: peel that layer back and to show us that he's not. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a jackass and I know I'm a jackass,
Speaker 1: and I don't like it, so please beat me up,
Speaker 1: because why else would you? Why else would you challenge
Speaker 1: somebody who's, like, you know, three inches taller than you are.
Speaker 1: It's interesting when we read that Chad gets that reaction.
Speaker 1: We did like an informal poll, Danielle where they're like,
Speaker 1: what happened? It was pretty split forty eight in favor
Speaker 1: of Tristan and don't like him. So I think we
Speaker 1: get the opinions from people who like him and hate him.
Speaker 1: It's like, I I sort of loved it, hate him. Yes,
Speaker 1: the character allows you to really, you know, vent on
Speaker 1: somebody like that, because we've all had people like that
Speaker 1: in our lives, right, um um. But I don't know,
Speaker 1: I'm I like him, I want to get to know
Speaker 1: him now. I'm interested in like finding out what's going
Speaker 1: on with him. Yeah, you really kind of love Tristan
Speaker 1: and Dean in this episode. I mean, I still think
Speaker 1: Tristan's he's a eighteen he's a kid, he's seventeen, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, those kids are They're so filled
Speaker 1: with confidence, you know, and you know, nothing really bad
Speaker 1: has happened to them yet. Nobody's ever said no to
Speaker 1: them yet. They just haven't been out in the world.
Speaker 1: But I think in Tristan's background, something's going wrong and
Speaker 1: it's and it's and it's going it's going wrong, like
Speaker 1: right now as it's happening, and he's he's freaked out
Speaker 1: by it. You know, maybe the parents split up, Maybe
Speaker 1: the parents are fighting a lot or splitting up, or
Speaker 1: who the heck knows. Yeah, And I think I think
Speaker 1: he's probably just a very sensitive, very intelligent boy who
Speaker 1: was probably a very sweet boy, and he's getting abused.
Speaker 1: Somebody's abusing him. Maybe his father is verbally abusing him
Speaker 1: or being too rough. With him or cutting him down?
Speaker 1: You know, who knows? Who the hell knows? But it's
Speaker 1: like I want to know. I want to know what
Speaker 1: it is. What's his damage? Boy, let's get him on.
Speaker 1: I want to I wanna because he has more insight
Speaker 1: and he, you know, made these choice, maybe had some
Speaker 1: conversations with Amy about background that's not in the show.
Speaker 1: So it would be interesting to find pretty sweet guy.
Speaker 1: He's a sweet guy in their life, as you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a good dude. Okay, Danielle, tell us how we're
Speaker 1: going to solve this conundrum. So we have one listener
Speaker 1: that is calling it right now, Easton, if you want
Speaker 1: to let her in from the waiting room. Her name
Speaker 1: is Amelia. Hates him, she likes him. Hello, Amelia, Hi,
Speaker 1: how you doing? Goodness? My goodness? Right pack at you?
Speaker 1: How are you doing? Let me? Where are you calling
Speaker 1: in from? Look at the sweatshirt? Got the Luke sweatshirt on?
Speaker 1: There you go representing alright? Where you Where are you from? Amelia?
Speaker 1: Joshua Tree, California? Oh my god, you're out in the
Speaker 1: desertn't really working for my my temperature outside? No? No, no,
Speaker 1: what's it out there? Something crazy? Yeah? The Desert. Thank
Speaker 1: God for free on. So you have either a question
Speaker 1: or a comment for us? Oh well, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: you guys um in your stories. So he talked about
Speaker 1: Tristan um if people liked him or didn't like him,
Speaker 1: And I know a lot of people probably don't like him,
Speaker 1: but I mean I don't like him, like I want
Speaker 1: to hang out with Tristan. But I think as a
Speaker 1: character he's really dynamic. There's a lot there and I
Speaker 1: love to unpack that stuff. As a viewer, I like
Speaker 1: that he's kind of puts up a facade. I mean
Speaker 1: he's a teenager, so you remember that. I mean I
Speaker 1: started watching the show when I was ten, so I
Speaker 1: didn't pick up any of this then. But um, you
Speaker 1: know he's a teenager. He's figuring it out. And I
Speaker 1: think that he just wants validation from girls at school,
Speaker 1: boys school, his parents, and he gets it obviously in
Speaker 1: the wrong ways. So he puts up this like not
Speaker 1: a very nice guy saw it. So he's kind of misunderstood.
Speaker 1: But there's moments where you could see he has like
Speaker 1: a heart and a soul. They're fleeting, but they happen, Um,
Speaker 1: And I just think he's really misunders that he does
Speaker 1: it to himself. But he's a teenager, so you know,
Speaker 1: she engages with him. You know, she doesn't just walk
Speaker 1: away or ignore him. There's some sort of push pool
Speaker 1: there because she always sort of ping pongs with him,
Speaker 1: meaning Rory. Yeah, I mean, and he's a cutie pie.
Speaker 1: I mean it's Chad Michael Murray. So I'm not complaining.
Speaker 1: If I was in high school with Chad Michael Murray,
Speaker 1: I'd probably be like, all right, So I mean, well,
Speaker 1: you know, um, we were discussing this and this episode
Speaker 1: is specifically, um Rory's dance when she goes to children
Speaker 1: dance and they getting Dean and and Tristan get into there,
Speaker 1: you know, almost fisticuffs. Um. You know, I started liking
Speaker 1: I started liking Tristan because just for the reasons that
Speaker 1: you just stated, because there's something there. There's maybe something
Speaker 1: going wrong in his home life and he doesn't know
Speaker 1: how to handle it, and he's internalizing it. It's being
Speaker 1: out in all these ways and he's probably he's you know,
Speaker 1: he's mimicking both his parents, right, So he's being imprinted
Speaker 1: in a very negative way somehow over a period of time,
Speaker 1: and he's you know he's coming off like this, this
Speaker 1: giant jerk, and I'm sure I see that from his
Speaker 1: behavior in this episode that he is not a giant jerk.
Speaker 1: I don't think he. I think there's something very sweet
Speaker 1: and soulful there and he's lost it. He's lost himself
Speaker 1: and he needs to get himself back, which is why
Speaker 1: I think and obviously he thinks Rory can help him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I completely agree. I feel like and even if he's
Speaker 1: like getting that negative imprint from his parents, maybe even
Speaker 1: they're not giving him enough attention, so he's like, how
Speaker 1: can I get attention, I'll act out, um, And yeah,
Speaker 1: I just think there's not a lot of self love there.
Speaker 1: There's not, like feel like, there's a lot of self
Speaker 1: doubt within himself, and he acts out negatively and he
Speaker 1: sees something good in Rory, which I mean he doesn't.
Speaker 1: I mean, she's just she's just a breath of fresh
Speaker 1: air and completely unaffected and beautiful and breezy and smart,
Speaker 1: and it's probably everything he's been looking for and hasn't
Speaker 1: been able to find. I mean, it's like it's either
Speaker 1: it's either Louise or or it's hurts Rory, which line
Speaker 1: you're gonna stand in right, I mean Louise right right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's still nice to him. She like finds the good
Speaker 1: in him, and you think he sees that and picks
Speaker 1: up on that. So it's like, Okay, even though I
Speaker 1: called you marry and I was that typical like I
Speaker 1: don't know, school grade school, like I'm going to be
Speaker 1: mean to you because I like you attitude. She's looked
Speaker 1: past that and it's just shown him kindness. And I
Speaker 1: mean anyone that's I feel like like him is going
Speaker 1: to look at that and be like, hey, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: I like you. She's she's look, she's a little she's
Speaker 1: a little rough with him. I mean she she gives
Speaker 1: him his do uh when they're standing in line, when
Speaker 1: she's buying the tickets. I mean she's really kind of
Speaker 1: going after him a little bit. I mean she's she's
Speaker 1: returning service beautifully. Yeah, I love it, especially when she
Speaker 1: yells at him after she hits the deer. I mean
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. So yeah, I just think there's a
Speaker 1: quality about Tristan that I'm intrigued by. Now. I'm fascinated.
Speaker 1: I want to I want to get to know him
Speaker 1: a little better. And I hope. And I haven't seen
Speaker 1: the episodes obviously, I've just I've stopped at Rory's dance,
Speaker 1: but I'm I'm intrigued to see how he develops. And
Speaker 1: I'm starting to like Dean too. But I know I've
Speaker 1: been listening and I'm like, no, no, but I didn't
Speaker 1: like the Boogie night thing and hey, now it's my
Speaker 1: turn and you know this kissing and the thing and
Speaker 1: and the Dozies marketing. I know I didn't like all
Speaker 1: that stuff, but you know it's like now this fresh
Speaker 1: episode and he's, uh, he's he's being a good boyfriend
Speaker 1: and it's kind of cool because she's, you know, hey,
Speaker 1: so what do we you my boyfriend? And it's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, you want me to be? It is,
Speaker 1: it's very it is very sweet and he's a sweet kid.
Speaker 1: He's showing that side of himself. Um, so, Amelia, so
Speaker 1: thank you for coming on. It was a very interesting discussion.
Speaker 1: Oh well, thank you. We really appreciate the input. Um,
Speaker 1: and good luck with your photography out there in Joshua
Speaker 1: Tree and thank you and thank you. This is crazy.
Speaker 1: You're Luke, I mean your Scott, but you're Luke. And
Speaker 1: I've been watching you since I was ten and your
Speaker 1: show shaped me and I just this is amazing, So
Speaker 1: thank you so much, wonderful. We've had a lot of
Speaker 1: fun and uh and nice talking to you. Yeah you too,
Speaker 1: thank you. All right, sweetheart, I think we've got somebody
Speaker 1: in the waiting room, uh for a fan question, and
Speaker 1: let's let's get question. We need a high so let's
Speaker 1: let's jump into your question. You emailed a question and
Speaker 1: we're curious. Go ahead and give us your question. Okay.
Speaker 1: So um, in season one, episode nine, where Rory goes
Speaker 1: to the dance, UM, Emily sitting on the couch with
Speaker 1: Flora Lae and she's trying, um, some smashed bananas on toast,
Speaker 1: and when Emily gets up from the couch, there's a
Speaker 1: piece of neon green tape those under the chair where
Speaker 1: she's been sitting. And then in season six, episode thirteen,
Speaker 1: Friday Night is all Right for Fights, Suki and Loria
Speaker 1: la are in an outdoor flower market and they have
Speaker 1: the same piece of neon green tape that's on their jackets,
Speaker 1: and UM, I'm assuming that it's like a place marker
Speaker 1: for where they stand or the jackets that they were
Speaker 1: supposed to use for the scene and then it maybe
Speaker 1: just didn't get removed. But UM, I'm wondering if you
Speaker 1: could maybe speak to that a little bit more on um,
Speaker 1: what is like to be an actor and have such
Speaker 1: intense dialogue and um and be having to move at
Speaker 1: a certain place, being a certain position, um, especially being
Speaker 1: like um for your character being in the diner being um,
Speaker 1: cooking or cleaning or busting a table at the same
Speaker 1: time while you're while you're acting. So, yes, you're you're
Speaker 1: right about the tape. It every actor gets a color designation.
Speaker 1: I guess the green tape. I guess that was assigned
Speaker 1: to Uh, Kelly, is that what you're saying? You saw
Speaker 1: it first with with Emily Gilmour, Yes, since season one? Yes,
Speaker 1: so yeah, so so Emily. I guess was was green
Speaker 1: because when the crew comes in, when we come in
Speaker 1: for a full crew rehearsal uh, and we've figured out
Speaker 1: sort of our movements and are it's called blocking, and
Speaker 1: where we're gonna go on certain lines and all the
Speaker 1: you know, the the balletic, the core the choreography of
Speaker 1: the scene where everybody's moving. Um. Uh. The crew he's
Speaker 1: the crew guy has a many different colored tapes uh
Speaker 1: in a holster and he pulls out that tape because okay,
Speaker 1: so Luke moves over here, so I mean I forget
Speaker 1: I I forget which color I was. It was probably
Speaker 1: red or something like that, and he said, or blue
Speaker 1: or something. He put a blue tape down there so
Speaker 1: that you I would know where my first mark was.
Speaker 1: And then they do the same thing for all the actors.
Speaker 1: So there's lots of pieces of different colored tape all
Speaker 1: over the floor and that's that's the roadmap for all
Speaker 1: of the actors to see. And you can't look at it,
Speaker 1: but you know it's there, So so that's your that's
Speaker 1: kind of like your UM, your navigation system that we
Speaker 1: used to make sure we knew we were standing on
Speaker 1: the right mark because that's where they set the lighting.
Speaker 1: So if if if you're standing on your mark, then
Speaker 1: the lighting is gonna hit you right and you know
Speaker 1: the director is gonna be happy, and if you miss
Speaker 1: your mark, the lighting is going to be off, and
Speaker 1: then everybody else's lighting is going to be off because
Speaker 1: you're gonna pull their looks over in the wrong direction.
Speaker 1: And then they yell cut and said you gotta hit
Speaker 1: your mark. We gotta do it again. So and as
Speaker 1: far as how to um to do all the the
Speaker 1: you know, the physical stuff and the and the serving
Speaker 1: of the food and you know that's um. You know,
Speaker 1: that's something you learn in acting school. Uh. And you
Speaker 1: just sort of keep gradually adding on more tasks to
Speaker 1: do and in scenes and scene work that you're doing
Speaker 1: in class. Uh. And then when you do plays you
Speaker 1: have to do that as well. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: props to deal with, and there's a whole course of
Speaker 1: study on how to deal with props and how to
Speaker 1: handle props and do you have to do it the
Speaker 1: same for every take? Yes, you do. Yeah, that's called matching.
Speaker 1: You have to match. So if George comes up to you, say, Scott,
Speaker 1: that didn't match, I said, oh, what did I do?
Speaker 1: I said, you put the plate down on the word
Speaker 1: after you know the and you put it. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: if you miss it even by that much, so it's exacting.
Speaker 1: So your rehearsal process nails down all of the movement
Speaker 1: and the and the props and uh um and the
Speaker 1: lighting scheme and the choreography. And if you miss any
Speaker 1: anything but even buying a very in your brain, you
Speaker 1: have to go like cut plate toast, cut plate toast,
Speaker 1: and then you're also doing all those crazy lines. You're
Speaker 1: like blah blah blah, cut plate toast. Whoa, that sounds
Speaker 1: kind of loud. You are truly exhausted at the end
Speaker 1: of the day because you're just your brain is is
Speaker 1: is just you know, trying to absorb all this stuff
Speaker 1: all day and you know, sending all those signals out
Speaker 1: to every part of your body. And uh and plus
Speaker 1: you know there's a there's an emotional life there too
Speaker 1: that has to be um, um, oh my god, right come,
Speaker 1: plate toast line, line, line right right right. So it's
Speaker 1: but it's not anything. The more you do it, the
Speaker 1: better you get at it, and the more comfortable you
Speaker 1: feel with it. And I got to the point on
Speaker 1: Gilmore where I I preferred using a lot of props
Speaker 1: and being very proppery and very active with the props
Speaker 1: because it's just, you know, it was easier for me
Speaker 1: to attach what line was I'm going to pick the
Speaker 1: couple on or drop the plate or pick up the
Speaker 1: plate and the whole thing and it's sort of I
Speaker 1: don't know, it just made it easier to do a scene. Um.
Speaker 1: Whereas when you're out there in the desert and it's
Speaker 1: just the two of you're talking. That's tough because I
Speaker 1: remember that kitchen scene in the in the reboot, where
Speaker 1: I was passionately pleading with Laurel La not to leave
Speaker 1: me when um, and it was just the two of us,
Speaker 1: there were no props to deal with. There was nothing,
Speaker 1: And that's when you're truly naked emotionally, and those are
Speaker 1: more difficult to pull off, um because you can't really
Speaker 1: you know, you can't hide behind the props anymore. Um. So, anyway,
Speaker 1: I hope that answers your question. Yeah, that's very interesting.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Thank you, Thank you Winita for
Speaker 1: coming on and uh and uh and keep watching, thanks listening.
Speaker 1: Stay safe, all right, take care. You know, let's have
Speaker 1: a little fun. Let's let's go ahead and re enact this.
Speaker 1: We had so much fun doing it last week. Let's
Speaker 1: let's reenact the scene where uh, you know, Rory goes
Speaker 1: into Dosie's Market to ask Dean to the dance and
Speaker 1: and Keiko is breathlessly, you know, staring through the glass
Speaker 1: to see what happens. So she she even says to Royce, says,
Speaker 1: you know, annuncate your words, I read lips. So so
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna re enact this with uh with
Speaker 1: another lovely fan. Who who do we have? Is that Heather?
Speaker 1: How are you doing? You're wearing the hat or is
Speaker 1: that just your natural look? Like it is rocking the look?
Speaker 1: It's out of respect of it. At this, Look at this, Heather,
Speaker 1: That's awesome. I gotta put my glasses on to check
Speaker 1: this out. This is look at you. That's a that's
Speaker 1: a Luke suit. It is number one top drawer. Welcome
Speaker 1: to the show. Thank you so much. I'm so excited
Speaker 1: to be here. How did it hat? What are you
Speaker 1: calling in from? I live in Seattle, Seattle, all the
Speaker 1: way from Seattle. Yeah, not too far from you. Guys though,
Speaker 1: did you work on the scene? Because I didn't? I did? Um,
Speaker 1: I hope I do it justice. Well, I know I'm
Speaker 1: gonna suck. I'm not going to be a good Dean.
Speaker 1: I'm playing Dean because I'm not in this episode. I know.
Speaker 1: I well, that's what when I heard it was this one,
Speaker 1: I thought, not even in this one. Luke's not even
Speaker 1: make sense. We'll create our own scene. I know it's
Speaker 1: going to be great. The scene that that that hit
Speaker 1: the cutting room floor never made it on the episode aired.
Speaker 1: All right, so now I'm by Now I have to
Speaker 1: I have to be Dean. Okay, so this will be
Speaker 1: the biggest acting challenge of my life. I know how
Speaker 1: you feel about Dean too, so he love Jared. But
Speaker 1: but you know what, Dean he I like him in
Speaker 1: this episode. I liked what happened. He's very good in
Speaker 1: this episode. Yeah, you know, it's like I might be
Speaker 1: kicking just to the curb pretty soon. I might be
Speaker 1: doing that. I might do that because I like Dean
Speaker 1: in this I like Dean in this episode. She wants
Speaker 1: to make it right too. You know, at the end
Speaker 1: of the episode, he really tries. He wants to go
Speaker 1: with Rory back to talk to her mom. I mean,
Speaker 1: he does the right thing. He does the right thing.
Speaker 1: He figured out how to get out of his car
Speaker 1: and stop honking. I like. I like that. He's an
Speaker 1: intelligent young man. You don't run out when a boy
Speaker 1: honks for you. Tell you what man Jess might be.
Speaker 1: You know, I know he's blood, I know he's family.
Speaker 1: But I like the Dean going after the tris didn't
Speaker 1: it was It was good. Yeah, and knock out the
Speaker 1: Mary Boy. You know, I'm a recent Team Jess convert.
Speaker 1: Actually I was a team Okay, don't don't be too upset.
Speaker 1: I know somebody else is also a Team Logan hardcore, Yes,
Speaker 1: Amy is. I mean, I was Team Logan for so long.
Speaker 1: I loved how they challenged each other, and I love
Speaker 1: how they changed one another. I love how he came
Speaker 1: full circle at the end. But you know what, after
Speaker 1: the revival, I changed my mind because I was so
Speaker 1: disappointed in the relationship. There a sort of relationship then,
Speaker 1: and I saw how Jess really helped Rory, and she
Speaker 1: had that great idea for the book, and even at
Speaker 1: the end when he looked at her through the window,
Speaker 1: I was like, that's that's the one. So I'm now
Speaker 1: a Team Jess. I never thought i'd say it, but
Speaker 1: years later, I'm a convert. I'm still I'm still Team Jett,
Speaker 1: Team Jess. But I gotta tell you, the opportunity to
Speaker 1: get into the skin of Dean in an acting scene
Speaker 1: might help me get that that five percent I need
Speaker 1: to get to get the Team Dean. Because I'm I'm
Speaker 1: right there, I'm right on the fence. I liked what
Speaker 1: I saw in this episode from that young boy. I
Speaker 1: like this scene. He's really I mean, what a great guy.
Speaker 1: He restrained himself, he didn't swing and punch. He just said,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to fight you, because what does I
Speaker 1: kill you? And he didn't mean kill in the sense
Speaker 1: that he'd kill him. He meant kill when that he
Speaker 1: would defeat him badly. So yes, yes, there would be
Speaker 1: damage to the Tristan Uppers and Lowers that Dennis would
Speaker 1: be very the Orthodonis between. I like this episode anyway,
Speaker 1: So you ready to act? Have you been working on it?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I made my husband run through it
Speaker 1: with me a bunch of times. I don't know how
Speaker 1: to play Dean, and now I have to be eighteen,
Speaker 1: and that's you know, I'm I'm a little four years
Speaker 1: past eighteen. But let's see what I can do. I
Speaker 1: was trying to put myself back in. What is it
Speaker 1: like when you're a teenager and you're this is so
Speaker 1: vulnerable to ask somebody to a dance, you know. I
Speaker 1: was trying to put myself back there, because that's that's hard.
Speaker 1: It was hard what I think we both need to
Speaker 1: do since we're since we're are both of our voices
Speaker 1: is probably bottomed out since we were teenagers. We need
Speaker 1: to be at a higher pitch. We need to be high. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we can't be so low in our throat. We can't be.
Speaker 1: So let's try that. So maybe we can be. We
Speaker 1: will try it. Not not necessarily squeaky, but sometimes Rory
Speaker 1: does come off squeaky. She can be sometimes. And for you, Heather,
Speaker 1: to achieve that level of cuteness and vulnerability in your voice,
Speaker 1: my god, let's see what happens. I don't know. Now
Speaker 1: you're setting me up. I'll try it, alright, alright, uh, alright,
Speaker 1: everybody settle Heather, you're good ready? Good? Yes? Yes, yes, yes?
Speaker 1: And action? Hey oh hey you're busy. Yeah no, I
Speaker 1: just had to put these green beans chip ands on
Speaker 1: the shelves. You want to help? Yeah, sure, I love
Speaker 1: stucking beans. Okay, follow me. So do you work on Saturdays?
Speaker 1: I forget, Well, it depends. Sometimes I come in if
Speaker 1: I don't have any plans. So why no reason? This
Speaker 1: is so bad? I can't do Dean to save my life,
Speaker 1: killing going, keep going, I'll try to find another Dean voice.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, See there's this thing at my school on Saturday.
Speaker 1: Well it's not really at my school, but it's it's
Speaker 1: kind of given by my school. What is it? Well,
Speaker 1: it's this kind of thing where you go and they
Speaker 1: play music and you're supposed to get all dressed up
Speaker 1: and do some kind of dance and there's chicken chicken.
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's chicken, but these kinds of things,
Speaker 1: they often serve chicken because it's probably cheaper and people
Speaker 1: eat it. So the logical the chicken twists really is
Speaker 1: not bad. I'm lost, and it's not like I'm dying
Speaker 1: to go or anything, but it is a new school
Speaker 1: and being part of social activity that's really important in Chilton.
Speaker 1: So are you asking me to go to a dance
Speaker 1: with you? No? Yes, I mean if you wanted to go,
Speaker 1: I would go to. Well that'd probably good since it's
Speaker 1: your school, right, So do you want to go? Honestly? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've actually never gone to a dance before because they're lame.
Speaker 1: It's just not the way I ever wanted to spend
Speaker 1: my timing. I mean, I'm I'm not a big joiner. Okay,
Speaker 1: fair enough? More beans? Please? You want to go, don't you? No?
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't have any desire to go at all.
Speaker 1: I was just thinking out loud, that's all. Huh. So
Speaker 1: what would I have to wear? What to this dance? What?
Speaker 1: What would I have to wear? Anything you want? No? Really?
Speaker 1: Whatever you're comfortable. Some sort of pants would be good.
Speaker 1: It's coding, TI, man, But you probably get away with
Speaker 1: the coating. No time I have to take. You have
Speaker 1: to take a longer pause. Yeah, give me that line again.
Speaker 1: But you could probably get away with the coat and
Speaker 1: no tie. H okay, really, thank you? That was excellent.
Speaker 1: I had one more line, the most important line of
Speaker 1: the whole thing. Alright, cut, we're gonna have to do
Speaker 1: it again. Maybe you just give that last line. I
Speaker 1: can give the one before welcome. There you go, done,
Speaker 1: We're good. There you good? So we can we can
Speaker 1: splice that in. Actually, I felt the scene gained real
Speaker 1: life when Amy jumped in at the end. I like that.
Speaker 1: I thought Heather was so much better than Danielle and Riley.
Speaker 1: It was amazing. I thought Heather was fantastic. Good thank
Speaker 1: you costuming too, since she got in character even though
Speaker 1: she wasn't portraying that character. Rory as Luke and I
Speaker 1: had to meet Luke as Dean that's a game of twister,
Speaker 1: mental twister right there. For the thing that's that's really like,
Speaker 1: what's they're not? How are they going to colate that?
Speaker 1: It's it's But you did a great job. You were
Speaker 1: really good, Scott. I'm really happy you changed your voice
Speaker 1: because that Dean voice and something else. I was struggling.
Speaker 1: I just didn't know what I thought. It was actually
Speaker 1: my eyes for a minute, I closed my eyes for
Speaker 1: a minute, and I really felt it was deep. I
Speaker 1: was inhabited. Dean was inhabiting me. It was. It was
Speaker 1: weird spiritual experience, you know, before you go. Do you
Speaker 1: have any questions or tips for us as we try
Speaker 1: to improve this? Uh? I am all in podcast. I'm
Speaker 1: just so excited doing this. This show is meant so
Speaker 1: much to me. So you guys being here each week,
Speaker 1: I mean it's taking me through everything, everything in your life.
Speaker 1: There's something about in Gilmore's with it, you know, heartbreak,
Speaker 1: going to college, graduating, even when my dad had a
Speaker 1: heart attack. I thought Gilmore's has that, you know. Um
Speaker 1: So I I love it. Um. I love that you're
Speaker 1: breaking down this, you know, the episodes and any behind
Speaker 1: the scenes stuff is always great. I do have a question.
Speaker 1: I always said I would ask if I ever got
Speaker 1: the opportunity. It's skipping way ahead, but if anybody's listening,
Speaker 1: I kind of figured that they've already kind of watched it. Anyway.
Speaker 1: So Orla comes to Luke at the diner and says,
Speaker 1: we gotta get moving with the marriage thing. Let's elope
Speaker 1: April needs to figure out how she's going to fit
Speaker 1: into lives, not the other way around. Let's go. Luke says,
Speaker 1: I can't jump, you know, it's too fast. Laura Lai says, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm out. She leaves, and she goes and she sleeps
Speaker 1: with Christopher, and then Luke cons and he's all packed up,
Speaker 1: he's got all his stuff, he's got the camping gear,
Speaker 1: he's ready to go, and he says, let's do it.
Speaker 1: And she says, I slept with Christopher and he leaves.
Speaker 1: And I always wondered if she hadn't slept with Christopher,
Speaker 1: do you think that they would have stayed together, like
Speaker 1: what would have happened after that? Well? Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: remember any of that, but I do. I think, of course,
Speaker 1: logic would dictate that the chances would be much better
Speaker 1: than there's this thing that funny, quirky thing about people
Speaker 1: in relationships. When you sleep with someone else, it somehow
Speaker 1: affects adversely the relationship that you're in. Isn't that wild?
Speaker 1: I don't blame Luke for leaving and he even goes
Speaker 1: and he goes straight to Christopher's apartment and punch boom
Speaker 1: right in the kisser right there. It's because it's a fan.
Speaker 1: You don't want Lorela to sleep with Christopher at that point,
Speaker 1: and so it's really satisfying. But that's the that's the
Speaker 1: craft of you know, the craft of writing will do
Speaker 1: the thing to the fans that they least want in
Speaker 1: order to get them to lean forward. Because now you
Speaker 1: feel like you're you're involved in it. I mean, they're
Speaker 1: really messing with you now, right, So it's uh, you know,
Speaker 1: that's that's what good writers do. They give you what
Speaker 1: you want sometimes, but they give you a lot of
Speaker 1: what you don't want, so or what you think you
Speaker 1: don't want anyway. Um, yeah, that's very What season are
Speaker 1: you even talking about here? What season is? So it's
Speaker 1: season seven? Is to come back in about three years?
Speaker 1: You would have me back in that time. I would
Speaker 1: be happy to come back and ask again, we can
Speaker 1: all chat, but I just always had it on my
Speaker 1: mind because I mean, I'm so glad they ended up together.
Speaker 1: Obviously we know Luke and Laurelar end game, we know that,
Speaker 1: but I always just had that thought, why why at
Speaker 1: the end there did they you know? Was there that?
Speaker 1: So it's just heartbreaking. It's a heartbreaking breakup right there.
Speaker 1: The life of a fan, right it is. Even as
Speaker 1: many times as I watched it, it's still I still
Speaker 1: can't get over it. It's tough, right Yeah, Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you were fantastic. That was an amazing reading. Thank you,
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Thank you for having just a
Speaker 1: delight and an honor. Um. And yeah, when we get
Speaker 1: to that episode, when we get to that episode season seven,
Speaker 1: which will be in a couple of years, knock on wood,
Speaker 1: then we should have you back. Yeah, please do, because
Speaker 1: I would just I would love nothing more than to
Speaker 1: discuss that bazing job. Heather, Thank you so much, No,
Speaker 1: thank you guys, thanks so much, Um, and thanks for
Speaker 1: doing the podcast. So, I mean, it means so much
Speaker 1: to so many people, it really does, so I appreciate it,
Speaker 1: as they'll speak for all the fans that we appreciate
Speaker 1: it and it's for you guys, and much appreciate it. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, have a good day, take care talk. So
Speaker 1: wasn't she great? I love it when the fans call
Speaker 1: in and it's so much fun. They're so great. Then
Speaker 1: they're they're dressing up, they're wearing their paraffin, they're wearing
Speaker 1: their gear. You know they're gearing up. Anyway, gear time
Speaker 1: for a comedy bit where we're all going to try
Speaker 1: bananazon toast. I didn't. I couldn't mash mine. I couldn't
Speaker 1: deal with it. I feel like it's going to be
Speaker 1: grosser if I mash it. It's definitely gonna be grosser
Speaker 1: if you match more gross It's but I have banana circles,
Speaker 1: I have pieces of banana. I couldn't mash it. It
Speaker 1: looks so heinous. It was just like, it doesn't look
Speaker 1: like mashed bananas. That look like something else. Are you
Speaker 1: trying it? Well? In theory, a piece of toast and
Speaker 1: a banana would be like a fine breakfast. It's that
Speaker 1: it was mashed like baby food. Yeah, it was. It
Speaker 1: was just awful to say, mine is more like the
Speaker 1: way you would want your avocado toast, right right, right?
Speaker 1: I can see. I have my banana slice. Okay, ready
Speaker 1: on three on three, Ready on three one two? Not
Speaker 1: that bad? Welcomes terrible. Oh it's not good. Actually, now
Speaker 1: it's a very odd taste. Oh god, that's awful. It
Speaker 1: was an after like at first it was okay. Yeah,
Speaker 1: at first it's okay, and then you start chewing and
Speaker 1: it's like, don't eat more of it? What are you doing?
Speaker 1: I got banana is awesome. I'm just eating the toast.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to waste a perfectly good piece of toast.
Speaker 1: I knew that would be bad just looking at it.
Speaker 1: Looks bad, right, everybody that the bananas and toast is,
Speaker 1: in a word, heinous. It is. It is truly, truly
Speaker 1: an awful combination. And just the fact that Emily force
Speaker 1: fed that to a young Laurel I uh says, I
Speaker 1: think a lot about Emily so because we just we
Speaker 1: just tried, we we tried to force feed ourselves. We
Speaker 1: couldn't even do it. I spit it out. It's over
Speaker 1: there right now, get it. I'm gonna get it out
Speaker 1: of the room. On break. I'm like removing this from
Speaker 1: the room. I don't even want to look at it,
Speaker 1: all right, we'll be back after these words. Yeah, okay, everybody,
Speaker 1: We're back. I'm Scott Patterson and this is the I
Speaker 1: M all In podcast you're listening to on iHeart Radio.
Speaker 1: It is time for one of our favorite segments, pop
Speaker 1: Culture Ladies and gentlemen. Riley take it away. I'm Riley
Speaker 1: and this is your pop culture first. We have Laura
Speaker 1: l You know, mom, you have a Barbara stand wicked voice. So,
Speaker 1: Barbara Stanwick was an American actress, model, and dancer active
Speaker 1: from to Barbara became a zeke Field Follies dancer at fifteen.
Speaker 1: The Follies were classy, spectacular show featuring the great talents
Speaker 1: of the day. She was actually the highest paid woman
Speaker 1: in America in ur raking four thousand dollars that year.
Speaker 1: A fun fact. One more fun fact. Last night I
Speaker 1: was watching Back to the Future at number one, and
Speaker 1: when Marty McFly goes back to the fifties, Barbara Stanwick
Speaker 1: is starring in the movie with Ronald Reagan at the
Speaker 1: movie theater in Hill Valley, Boom. I think she was
Speaker 1: on a show called A Big Valley. She was on
Speaker 1: TV two. She she was a staple in our household.
Speaker 1: And when I was growing up. Barbara stand was a
Speaker 1: big story. You love some old timey references on Gilmore Girls.
Speaker 1: Keep them coming, Laura I says, become a crazy Oscar
Speaker 1: Levant kind of celebrity, go on talk shows. Heckel Regis so.
Speaker 1: Oscar Levant was an American concert pianist, composer, and music conductor.
Speaker 1: From nineteen sixty. Oscar dropped out of high school to
Speaker 1: pursue music. While he was considered a multi faceted genius,
Speaker 1: he also had been known as a notorious hypochondriac and
Speaker 1: a nice little regius pop culture mentioned in that same sentence,
Speaker 1: who was the Regius and Kathy Lee? Then Regis and Kelly,
Speaker 1: which is now Kelly and Ryan Seacrest, Rory says to Tristan, really,
Speaker 1: does Susan Faluti know about this? So? Susan Fluti was
Speaker 1: an American feminist, journalist and author from the nineteen eighties
Speaker 1: to now. Susan's a strange father survived the Holoclast. She
Speaker 1: also has dual citizenship between the US and Hungary. Her
Speaker 1: most recent book is about fluid and binaries. Rory says,
Speaker 1: I hear Squeaky from is Up for Pearl Soon. Squeaky
Speaker 1: was an American criminal who was a member of the
Speaker 1: Manson family cult led by Charles Manson. Actually, on September
Speaker 1: five and Sacramento, Squeaky attempted to assassinate President Gerald Ford
Speaker 1: by aiming a firearm at the president, which was later
Speaker 1: determined not to be loaded. And Squeaky's up for Pearl soon,
Speaker 1: Laura Lee, While Mom, look at you, you think Ann
Speaker 1: Taylor was having a sailor or something. So everyone knows
Speaker 1: Ann Taylor as a woman's clothing store, But did you
Speaker 1: know that Ann Taylor is not actually a real person.
Speaker 1: The retail chain is named after a best selling shirt
Speaker 1: dress style in the night ten seventies, and taylor shopping
Speaker 1: bag was inducted in the Smithsonian's Permanent collection. And Taylor
Speaker 1: is not a real person. That expands a lot, clears
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff up for me, Laura Lie, Hey Dean,
Speaker 1: Meet my mother. Emily Post. Emily Post is an American author, novelist,
Speaker 1: and socialite. Emily is famous for writing about etiquette, and
Speaker 1: her book is called Emily Post Etiquette. The book was ironically,
Speaker 1: at one point the second most stolen book from libraries,
Speaker 1: the first being The Bible Etiquette Two Bits of Etiquette,
Speaker 1: advice from Emily. So once they read the book, they
Speaker 1: returned the book because that's etiquette, and they steal the Bible.
Speaker 1: One of the piece of etiquette is thank your host
Speaker 1: twice and when in doubt, where the planar dress. It
Speaker 1: is always far better to be underdressed than overdressed. Thank
Speaker 1: you Scott, because you're our host. Thank you Scott. Thanks
Speaker 1: for dressing and you're definitely underdressed. Thank you very much,
Speaker 1: Laura Lie, I mean it. You could have gotten Fred
Speaker 1: McMurray too, off, Dad, you'd really wanted to. Fred has
Speaker 1: appeared in more than a hundred films, many of them Western.
Speaker 1: Some of his other films include My Shaggy Dog and
Speaker 1: My Three Sons, My Three Sons, Huge hit when I
Speaker 1: was growing up, Huge hit that theme song. Wow. He
Speaker 1: was the first person ever named a Disney Legend, and
Speaker 1: at one point he was the fourth highest paid actor
Speaker 1: in America. Next ones for Amy Rory. I'll be standing
Speaker 1: in the back listening tore Oh. I know so many
Speaker 1: fun facts about degrees bring him or would you need
Speaker 1: me to do them? How do you know so many?
Speaker 1: Because I was there with nine degrees from the very beginning.
Speaker 1: So here's a little fun fact that Nick Lasha just
Speaker 1: revealed in that their song The Hardest Thing. Nick hated
Speaker 1: the line about Dr Shivago and then that song became
Speaker 1: one of their biggest hits. Riley, what else you got?
Speaker 1: Rory says, have you seen The Outsiders? Just call me
Speaker 1: pony boy. So The Outsiders was actually originally a book,
Speaker 1: but the book was created into a film packed with
Speaker 1: a cast full of Hollywood's upcomers such as Matt Dylan,
Speaker 1: Rob Low, Patrick Swayze, and Tom Cruise just to name
Speaker 1: a few. I think Ralph Macchio was in there, Diane Lane.
Speaker 1: That was like packed with stars, packed with stars. So
Speaker 1: the book was written by S. E. Hinton was Susan
Speaker 1: Elise Hinton, a fifteen year old school student in Tulsa
Speaker 1: who wrote The Outsiders. Editors suggested she go by s
Speaker 1: E so readers could and for a male author was responsible. Unbelievable. Okay,
Speaker 1: I think it's time to uh go to our produce
Speaker 1: one of our producers, Danielle, to get an update on
Speaker 1: the clown pillow. Danielle take it away. So the clown
Speaker 1: pillow was really sneaky this episode. You really had to
Speaker 1: it watch, like really watched to find it, um I
Speaker 1: had Did anybody notice it? Nope? No, no, okay, So
Speaker 1: the clown pillow when um Suki comes over with the
Speaker 1: burritos and lor La is talking to um her mom
Speaker 1: like on the phone, talking to Emily on the phone. Um,
Speaker 1: it is propped up next to her. But it's just
Speaker 1: a side view of it, but you can it's very
Speaker 1: clown pillow. Ask. You can see like the side profile
Speaker 1: of the clown and it's right there waiting for everyone
Speaker 1: to look at it. You have clown pillow eyes, Daniel,
Speaker 1: I really do. I have one other little interesting tidbit
Speaker 1: that you may or may not have spotted, but I
Speaker 1: found this with my internet research. During Tristan and Dean's confrontation,
Speaker 1: the actor who played Caesar is in the background. Yes,
Speaker 1: maybe we can do a zoom in so people can
Speaker 1: see it on our social media. But they think maybe
Speaker 1: he was just a background actor playing a different character.
Speaker 1: Unless Caesar moonlights at high school dances. Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: the more days that he works, the more money he makes.
Speaker 1: So probably he was in the club and they just
Speaker 1: they threw him another episode. Now it's time for favorite lines.
Speaker 1: Who's going to start us off? Riley go ahead. So
Speaker 1: I love when Emily says this is not a drive through,
Speaker 1: she is not fried chicken. When Dean hanks to come
Speaker 1: get her, that was my Daniel. You're gonna have to
Speaker 1: come up with another one. It's okay, I have to
Speaker 1: just in case this happens. So my second one is
Speaker 1: when Laura Lee goes shield the talk. I love that.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, they're holding coconuts and leering. It's funny
Speaker 1: you treated my lovely gift for a semi pornographic leering
Speaker 1: monkey lamp. How could you bacca rock crystals for a
Speaker 1: monkey lamp? Um? I think my favorite line was when
Speaker 1: Emily's going back and forth on the phone with Laura
Speaker 1: Lae about Lauraa making Rory's dress, and Emily said something like,
Speaker 1: please don't use the curtains. That's actually a poster reference.
Speaker 1: We sort of missed because it was the sound of
Speaker 1: real reference. We should have had that so insulting. It's like,
Speaker 1: you have no you're you're my daughter, but you have
Speaker 1: no taste, and I fear you will use the curtains
Speaker 1: to make a dress. I have to add in one
Speaker 1: more line. I'm sorry, I this one was just so good.
Speaker 1: Um when Tristan and Dean were fighting and Dan goes,
Speaker 1: you will not go near her ever again. So good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Dean up in his game. That's Rory's dance. Everybody, what's
Speaker 1: the episode next week that we all need to watch?
Speaker 1: Forgiveness and stuff? Forgiveness and stuff. Really that sounds like
Speaker 1: a big episode. You're in it. I'll cover my eyes.
Speaker 1: I'm actually liking some of this stuff. I'm liking some
Speaker 1: of this stuff. I do. Who cares thought about me? Listen? Uh,
Speaker 1: it's a very special birthday for a dear friend of mine,
Speaker 1: my little vent Amelia, and I'm going to sing him
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