1 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Bridget and this is Annie, and you're 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: listening the stuff mom never told you. Now today it's 3 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: four twenty. Yeah, actually not for twenty, but by the 4 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: time you listen to this, it will be that's true. 5 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: And we can't say for sure when you're listening to this, 6 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: but it came out debuted on Thank You of the Year. 7 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: If you're listening to this in the year on what 8 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: a congratulations by being a time traveler, you're probably like, 9 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: am I high? I don't know. So we wanted to 10 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: do an episode commemorating the day Annie, did you happen 11 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: to catch the viral gubernatorial candidate Cynthia Nixon's video about marijuana? 12 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: I did not, Bridget Actually, so basically, if you don't 13 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:10,479 Speaker 1: know Cynthia Nixon, a k a. Miranda from Sexmicity, Redhead, 14 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: fiery mother to Brady, wife to Steve, who watched the 15 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: show religiously in case he can't tell, she's running for 16 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,199 Speaker 1: governor of New York. She actually seems like she's doing 17 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: a great job. A friend of mine, Nicole Arrow, is 18 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 1: running her campaign. Shout out to Nicole Um and she 19 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: put out a video about marijuana. Here's what she had 20 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: to say, I believe it's time for New York to 21 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: follow the lead of eight other states and d C 22 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: and legalized recreational marijuana. There are a lot of good 23 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: reasons for legalizing marijuana, but for me, it comes down 24 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: to this, we have to stop putting people of color 25 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: in jail for something that white people do with impunity. 26 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: Of the New Yorkers who are arrested for marijuana are 27 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: black or Latino, despite the fact that whites and people 28 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: of color use marijuana and roughly the same rights. So 29 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: that's what she had to say. People are pretty excited 30 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: about her campaign. They were already pretty excited, but now 31 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 1: they're even more excited that she came out as pro 32 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 1: legalization of marijuana for New York. And it's actually kind 33 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: of interesting, right in New York is a pretty liberal state. 34 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,239 Speaker 1: You would think that um, it would already be legalized, 35 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: but's not. Yeah. Um Over on my other podcast, food Stuff, 36 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 1: we also have a four episode on edibles, and I 37 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: was trying to research, um, all the laws in the 38 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: United States verse recreational versus medicinal and WHOA did I 39 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: get confused? And it sounds like nobody's really sure what's 40 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: going on. Exactly. So let's back up a little bit. 41 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 1: So it turns out that about six and ten Americans 42 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: say that the use of marijuana should be legalize. Now, 43 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: this is data from the Pew Research Center, and it 44 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: is actually pretty confusing about where it's legal, in what 45 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: way it's legal, how it's enforced across the country. It's 46 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: a little bit abusing. So here are some baseline facts 47 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 1: that even us as non legal scholars can agree are 48 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: the facts. Earlier this year, recreational marijuana became legal in California, 49 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: which is the most populous state in the country. In 50 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: Colorado and Washington State became the first state to legalize 51 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: marijuana for recreational purposes. So I means you could just 52 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: go to a store by a joint and smoking on 53 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: the street just for funzies. Wow. Yeah, imagine. Since then, 54 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: seven more states in Washington, d C have followed, although 55 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: Vermont in DC, while allowing marijuana possession and growing, continue 56 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: to bar sales for recreational purposes. Now, as someone who 57 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: lives in d C, I can tell you it kind 58 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: of goes back to what you were saying earlier. Annie, 59 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: do you see kind of operates in this kind of 60 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: I guess you would call it a weird legal logistical 61 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: gray area. Technically, it is legal to possess marijuana in Washington, 62 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: d C. It is not technically legal to smoke it 63 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: in public, although if you are smoking in public, the 64 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: worst that can happen to you is a ticket. Um, 65 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: police have to actually see you smoking. If they see 66 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: smoke and they assume you're smoking, they can't do anything. 67 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: But if they have to like actually see you smoking 68 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: to um, you know, stop you. Also, it's still technically 69 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: illegal to buy it, but what that means is DC 70 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 1: now operates on this kind of wink wink nudge nudge 71 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: system where you can buy it, but it's like, you know, 72 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: it's it's like a gift, like, oh, you're actually buying 73 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: the lighter, but we're doing our promotion right now, and 74 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: with the lighter comes a free joint. You know. It's 75 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: like so it's a little bit like you know, I mean, 76 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: it's it's basically legal. UM. I should also point out that, um, 77 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: it's still legal on federal land, and so in d 78 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 1: C a lot of land is federal. So sometimes you 79 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: you know, from one part of the sidewalk, you're not 80 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: on federal land. Or another part of the sidewalk you 81 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: are on federal lands, that can be a little bit tricky, 82 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 1: but for the most part, in d C it is legal, 83 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: even though it's exactly what you were talking about earlier, 84 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: where it's that kind of tricky confusing, Like people I 85 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: know who smoke weed and live in d C still 86 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: don't know the specifics of how the legislation works because 87 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: it is confusing. Yeah, and I mean not to mention 88 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: it's still illegal on the federal level. So there's the 89 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: whole problem of how do these legal businesses in their 90 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 1: state operate. I mean, it's tax season as well, and 91 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: they from what I understand, um, all the profit has 92 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: to be in cash or something like. It's just very concluded, complicated. 93 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: I've also read that in some states, um, it is 94 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: illegal to smoke it in public. And that's why edibles 95 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 1: are so popular is because it's hard to say if 96 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: someone's eating a brownie. UM, I don't know. It's one 97 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 1: of the reasons that that industry in particular seeing exponential growth. 98 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: That is interesting. You know a little something about edibles, 99 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 1: don't you, Annie? What are you all right? We'll move on, 100 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: will move on, will move on. So Interestingly enough, there's 101 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: been new legislation introduced in two states, Utah and Oklahoma, 102 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: to legalize marijuana. Now, those are two of the most 103 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: conservative states in the country, which really seems to indicate 104 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: that as a country, we are moving more toward legislation 105 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: and less toward cracking down on people for smoking weed. 106 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: Right and going back to the federal level, the Trump 107 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 1: administration has been if he on the issue. In January, 108 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: Attorney General Jeff Sessions just sended an Obama era memo 109 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: that effectively protected states that had legalized marijuana from federal intervention. 110 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 1: Since marijuana remains illegal at the federal level for any purpose, 111 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 1: the Obama memos signaled to states that they could proceed 112 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: with reforms without the constant threat of the FEDS rating 113 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: state legal businesses. Sessions move, however, revived the possibility of 114 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: federal intervention telling prosecutors they had cracked down a marijuana 115 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:05,359 Speaker 1: even if it's legal under state law. But over the 116 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: past week, Trump promised not to go after marijuana suppliers 117 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: and users who are baying their state laws. So it's like, 118 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: I know, it's hard to say, and I'm someone who 119 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: I don't trust Trump. As you all know, and so 120 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, you said this, we'll see exactly exactly. 121 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'll give that, I'll give that out. We'll 122 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: see how where how it goes in my book. But 123 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: something to know is that even John Bayner, remember him well, 124 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: the former Speaker of the House, who once said that 125 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: he was quote unalterably opposed legalization, has recently quote evolved 126 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: on the issue. And he announced that he'd be joining 127 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: Acreage Holding, a group that cultivates and distributes cannabis across 128 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: eleven states and hopes to roll back federal restrictions on 129 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: the drug. So even him, even old stick in the 130 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: mud Byner, is coming around on the issue. Yeah, he 131 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: evolved to seeing there's money to be made. I mean, listen, 132 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: the only color that matters is great. Well that works 133 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: on two levels. I just got it. Well, you're really 134 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: really slow reaction time. I don't appreciate the implications. Listen, y'all, 135 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: I got a level with you. If you listen to 136 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: earlier iterations of the show, you know that sometimes you 137 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: have episodes that are all around somebody's unpopular opinion. And 138 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: I don't think I ever really waited into the unpopular 139 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,239 Speaker 1: opinion territory. I hope that we'll get some good any 140 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: unpopular opinions going forward, but today is a bridget unpopular opinion, 141 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: and that opinion is I hate We're twenty and I'll 142 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: tell you why. After this quick break and we're back, 143 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 1: and I just revealed my unpopular opinion. You're probably a 144 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: lot of you are probably surprised by this. I'm a 145 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 1: pretty um chill person, obviously. I I have no problem 146 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 1: with may I wanna or a drug use at all. 147 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: I'm very pro But I hate for twenty. And let 148 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: me tell you, I don't just hate for twenty. I 149 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 1: hate shows that glorify weed. I don't like anything on Vice. 150 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: It's like, hey, let's make a trucky dinner, but then 151 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 1: like put weed in it. I hate that. I hate 152 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: that so much. Like it when I see commercial sport 153 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 1: it makes me cringe. I hate sort of trend articles 154 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: that are like, oh, look at these moms who are 155 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: driving the car pool but also smoke weed. I hate that. 156 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: I mean, you know what I'm talking about. It like 157 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: boils my blood. Basically, I hate almost anything to do 158 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: with weed and popular culture. That are exceptions most music. 159 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: Um probably the second season of that show Weeds, which 160 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,719 Speaker 1: I did enjoy. Specifically, if you watched Weeds, do you 161 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: know what like went off the rails? I really did. 162 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: Did you watch it? I did. I couldn't tell you 163 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: which season is the second season, but I remember when 164 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: that like her kids shot that person, yeah, Pollar, and 165 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: they go to Mexico and there's that weird underground tunnel, 166 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: Like this is kind of going off the rails, but 167 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: it is related kind of the series finale of the show. Yeah, 168 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: it's I've never seen a worst series finale. It's so 169 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: bad where it's like, well spoiler, look, if you haven't 170 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: seen Feeds, that was like twelve years ago. It fasts 171 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: forward twenty years into the future, so they're they're like 172 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: they're like a hover pars and it's you know, it's 173 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: the future. And Nancy Botwin basically opens the Starbucks of Weed, 174 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: you know, like the weirdest and the episode before that 175 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: ends with her in one of the show's typical sort 176 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: of oh How's Nancy gonna get out of this? One 177 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: likes being held up at gunpoint by gangsters, and then 178 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: the next episode they don't address how she dealt with that. 179 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: It's just the future and everything's fine and she's rich 180 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: and it's flying cars the worst. Man. I watched every 181 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: episode that show, and I don't remember that, so I 182 00:10:55,320 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: must have. It's clearly meant to be like, oh, it's 183 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: the future that we have, we have like wild technology 184 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: you've never seen because it's the year thirty or whatever. 185 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: It's so bad if if you haven't seen it, if 186 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: you've seen, if you basically is one of those shows 187 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 1: that I watched all the way through and I was like, 188 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: I am owed a series finale. I know it's a 189 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: bad show, but I dedicated a lot of my times 190 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: when I'm owed. I'm owed. Some wrap up wasn't It 191 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: was not a good choice. I would like to point 192 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: out this is the second time you've mentioned the year one, 193 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: So whoever is listening to this and it's high, it's 194 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: freaking out right now. Thinks you're trying to communicate to 195 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: him or if you're high right now, please get in 196 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: touch with me. If you're high, I'm trying to You're right, 197 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: it's not it is a pattern. You're right, I'm speaking 198 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 1: to you. He's this person is going to try to 199 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: travel back in time. Oh man, oh, this is getting 200 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,719 Speaker 1: like trippy in meta it is. I didn't know it 201 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: was going to go this way. Yeah, we've like, we've 202 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 1: gone into some interesting I like it. Okay, so you're 203 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: probably thinking, wow, Bridge is the biggest buzz skill of 204 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: all time and only thing on the serious finale of 205 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: Weeds it doesn't even like. And here's why. So I 206 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: have no problem with smoking weed, obviously, but let me 207 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: hit you all with some truth. As the resident for 208 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: twenty buzzkill. According to the Drug Policy Alliance, women are 209 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: now the fastest growing segment in the US prison population, 210 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 1: largely because of crappy drug laws. Two thirds of women 211 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 1: doing time in federal prison right now are there because 212 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: of non violent drug offenses. And so, you know, I 213 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: love I I think drugs are cool. I mean, I'll 214 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: say it. I think like, as long as you like 215 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: use it responsibly, like I'm you know, but it's hard 216 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: for me to see stats like that and kind of 217 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: take part in the four twenty hoop law right like, 218 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: it just doesn't feel right for me. Um. Further, there 219 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: are all these I mean, I don't need to tell y'all, 220 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: but there are all these heartbreaking stories. There was one 221 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: that release ticks with me. This woman Patricia Spotted Cow. 222 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: She's an Indigenous mama four who got a felony charge 223 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: for a thirty one dollar marijuana sale during a sting 224 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: operation and it resulted in a twelve year prison sentence 225 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: when she was only twenty five. And so you know 226 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 1: these stories, I hear that. I'm sure that a lot 227 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: of y'all hear them. If if you're someone who pays 228 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: attention to this issue at all, it's probably not surprising 229 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: to hear that people who are marginalized are the ones 230 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: who are locked up more, the ones who have their 231 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: families destroyed, more deported more. There is this author, Ellen 232 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: comp She wrote Token Women, a four thousand year History. 233 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: She's also the current deputy director of California Normal And 234 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: one of the things that she writes about is how 235 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: for a long time, women and smoking was sort of 236 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: a stigmatized thing. And I would argue it still is. 237 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: And one of the reasons that women face stigma or 238 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: maybe worry about using mirror wanna is because they worry 239 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: about the government interfering with their parenting. And so if 240 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: you get busted smoking weed, the concern is that you 241 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: might have your kids taken away from you by top 242 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: protective services, and so you know, I I obviously don't 243 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: have a problem with drug use in and of itself, 244 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: but it's like when I see things like, oh, yoga, 245 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: moms do yoga between bob ribs, it's so difficult for 246 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: me to see that and be like, oh, that's cool, 247 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: celebrate that and not think about the disparities. Think about 248 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: all the people whose lives have been ruined because they 249 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: wanted to do this, do the same thing that everybody 250 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: else does. Right, Like, we love smoking weed in America. 251 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: We are a very weed smoking country. Black people and 252 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: white people use marijuana at the same rates, and yet 253 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: the people who are locked up for it are are 254 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: people who look like me. I do find that there's 255 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: an interesting dynamic or I don't know if that's the 256 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: right word with weed that is not there with alcohol, 257 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: which you can I like to use as that helpful comparison, 258 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: they're different, but they are you can use it in 259 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: kind of the same way. Um, where with alcohol you 260 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: don't have there's not I'm sober and completely wasted and 261 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: those are your two only two options. You can be 262 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: like lightly buzzed or tipsy, are wasted. But with I 263 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: feel like with weed, it's you're either sober are you're 264 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: like stoned out of your mind. There's no we don't 265 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: really talk about those in between spaces. Um and Yeah. 266 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: When I was doing the research on edibles, I guess 267 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: I've always I'm kind of been mature in the sense 268 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: that I've always thought of like, you know, your college, 269 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: your college pot brownie that you did, you'd take two. Well, 270 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: don't take two, but that's what I did, and you 271 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: get stoned out of your mind, and that's your goal. 272 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: Like that, there's no in between, and that comes from 273 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: I think the stigmatization and the fact that it is legal, 274 00:15:54,640 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: and there's this whole cycle of recreational marijuana was brought 275 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: to the US by Mexican immigrants, and it was around 276 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: the time of the Great Depression. So who do Americans 277 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: lame but the incoming immigrants. And so that's why they 278 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: called it marijuana, was to like, that's scary sounding Mexican. Yeah, 279 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: And they capitalized on the fear of it, and because 280 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: of that, it became almost a total black market thing, 281 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: and we lost all of the how to use it, 282 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: just basic knowledge of what it is and how to 283 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: use it safely. And yeah, and when in the sixties, 284 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: the Swinging sixties, and when white people discovered it and 285 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: they're like, oh, I actually liked this thing. Then the 286 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: laws eased back and they're like, okay, well, oh well, 287 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: we'll let people do this more. And then the War 288 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: on drugs with Ronald Reagan and everything reversed. Then they 289 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: became even worse than it was before then. And uh 290 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: so I get what you're saying. It's it's it's a 291 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: real shame. And we should think, I mean, you should 292 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 1: think about these things. We should think about these things. 293 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: You should be aware of what I'm a big proponent 294 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: of that, and like everything. You should know where your 295 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: food comes from and the people that got it to 296 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 1: you and how it got to you, and maybe why 297 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: is it only twenty cents? You know, these are questions 298 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 1: you should ask. I just went on a tangent kind 299 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: of I don't think it's it's it's not a tangent 300 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 1: because I think that's true. I think the larger point 301 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: one that I am hopefully I am like saying like savings, 302 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: the last few cool points that I have. I think 303 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 1: the larger point that you just made is is where 304 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: my anxiety around this comes from. Is that We love 305 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: closing our eyes to this, whether it's fast fashion, like 306 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: why is this shirt three dollars? Whether it's you know, 307 00:17:56,200 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: why are avocado is not grown in this date? But 308 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 1: I have avocados here and they're very cheap? Why is 309 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: you know? We we like we as a as a society, 310 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: we like to not ask those questions because it's easier. 311 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: And of course, like who wants to ask those questions? 312 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: You want your cheap shirt, you want your cheap you 313 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: want you know, like getting highest fun, right, Like, part 314 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 1: of it is understandable because we who wouldn't want to 315 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 1: close their eyes to that? But I also think because 316 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: of that very understandable kind of almost natural inclination, we 317 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: then don't even ask, you know, who was being arrested 318 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: for this and why? And what do they look like? 319 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,360 Speaker 1: Or what is the environmental impact of this? Right? Like 320 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: you know, when I was living in New York, I 321 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: all of my super lefty woke friends all were big 322 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: cocaine users and like you know, also very big environmentalists. 323 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: And if you know anything about the k production, that's 324 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: a tough squared circle. And we you know what we do, 325 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 1: we don't circle that square. We just keep doing okay, 326 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:55,719 Speaker 1: and we move on. We don't deal with it. And 327 00:18:55,800 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 1: I think with marijuana because it is so glorified and 328 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 1: pop culture, it's one of those things that like I 329 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 1: can't I can't not see it. I can't I see 330 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 1: I feel like I see it everywhere, Like when I 331 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: see those pop mom stories, you know, like oh, yoga 332 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: pop mom. It just feels so isolating because I know 333 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: people who personally had their children taken away were the 334 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 1: exact same thing. And so it's like for me because 335 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: marijuana comes along with this sort of like fun, freewheel 336 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 1: in cool pop culture thing, which I also really hate 337 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 1: it just it just it's like a glance, like I 338 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: can't do the thing that feels good, which is not 339 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: asked those questions. It's like those questions are like in 340 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 1: my face, right yeah. And it's another unfortunate thing that 341 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: I I myself am guilty of that I kind of 342 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: always like chuckle and like make marijuana jokes. I'm really 343 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,239 Speaker 1: bad about it. I love puns anyway, but marijuana has 344 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: so many it does associated with it, so I make 345 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 1: them and it's part of the immaturity around the whole 346 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,719 Speaker 1: thing that's in part because of pop culture, and in 347 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 1: part because it is so stigmatized and we don't talk 348 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,479 Speaker 1: about it, and there is that image of like you 349 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: kind of mentioned earlier, women are afraid to be seen 350 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: of like the stoner because in our head that's like 351 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: a dropout or somebody who is on the fast track 352 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: to prison, like someone who should their kids taken away. Exactly. Yeah, 353 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 1: we can't even have a serious conversation about it, and 354 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 1: luckily we are sort of moving that way. But slogoings yeah, 355 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 1: and I don't want to. I don't want to. I mean, 356 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: I'm sounding like such a buzz skill, but I'm not 357 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: wanna say no, actually making marijuana is not funny, like 358 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: don't watch Super Super that's awful, you know, No, I'm 359 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: gonna say that. I was saying, like, I don't know. 360 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: I just think that we because of what you just 361 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 1: mentioned stigma. You know, I don't think anybody should have 362 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: their kids taken away because they smoke that. And I 363 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: think that obviously some people have to worry about that 364 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: more than others. But I think large our inability to 365 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: talk about marijuana in a way that's I guess, like 366 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: what you said like adult, well, also lazing it's fun 367 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: it's right for humor, certainly, I you know, I'm I'm 368 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: as guilty of it as anybody. Um, But I think 369 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 1: that it's like this, It's it's like either one or 370 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 1: the other. Either you get to live in a world 371 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: where marijuana is this funny, fun free wheel and thing, 372 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: or you get to live in a world where people 373 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: have their kids taken away and you get deported. And 374 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: it's like, I want, I want us all to live 375 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 1: in the same world where, which is we're dealing with 376 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: it in a realistic way, not have part of our 377 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: citizen we live in one world and part of us 378 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: live in another. But I guess that's not true because 379 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: there's How High, which is also a funny movie, and 380 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: they're black, So I don't know, I don't know what 381 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Well, this is your own popular opinion. You 382 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: get to just have it, and that's that's the beauty. Yeah, 383 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: thank you, Annie. This is as good I mean I 384 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: I people who know me know that this is a 385 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 1: weird hang up of mine, even as someone who is 386 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 1: fine with marijuana use and drug use. But this is 387 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 1: a weird hang up of mine. And every four twenty, 388 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, vice is gonna do a week week and 389 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch every episode. You know, I gotta I 390 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: gotta start watching. No, I want you to live tweet 391 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: it please getting anger. Um over on food stuff, we 392 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: got to talk to um Becka Graham from Dope Girls, 393 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: which is a local zene like gets published and um, 394 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: it's all about the intersection of feminism and marginalized people 395 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 1: and cannabis culture, and um, if you're interested in any 396 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 1: of this, I would go check it out because she 397 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 1: had such good things to say, and she was just 398 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 1: much more well spoken on it than I am, because 399 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 1: I am kind of on the fringe of like being 400 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: high oh you know generally no on I guess I've 401 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 1: always kind of I'm still in that college mindset unfortunately 402 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: of like it happens to be at this party or whatever, 403 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,199 Speaker 1: so I don't I'm not very well informed about the 404 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: goings on, but she was very well spoken, and UM, 405 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: if you're in Atlanta, totally look them up. If you're 406 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: not in Atlanta, look them up. But in Atlanta they 407 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: do events and fundraisers and stuff. Well checking out their stuff. 408 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: One of the things I love that they're doing, and 409 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: I'm I think this is really rad is they're working 410 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,959 Speaker 1: to kind of bridge that intersection I was talking about earlier. 411 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: So my anxiety about how we celebrate marijuana comes from 412 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,199 Speaker 1: what I feel like is a disparity. Clearly, they are 413 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: people who are you know, intersectional and you know, multicultural 414 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: and working to bridge that gap. That that leaves a 415 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: lot of people feeling a little bit alienated about weed 416 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 1: culture because we called like weed can be feminists or 417 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: also there's we'll talk more about sort of the women 418 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: who are doing pioneering work in weed. It can be 419 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: something that helps, you know, bridge cultures. And I think 420 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: all of that is really really red. So I'm happy 421 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: to see organizations like Dope Girls really being intentional about 422 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 1: saying like, no, you're not going to paint a portrait 423 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: that fun marijuana youth means white white people. We're going 424 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 1: to show you the actual basis of people who know 425 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 1: smoke marijuana and use marijuana, and we're gonna do the 426 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: work to de stigmatize it, and we're going to show 427 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: the reality. We're not going to paint it as this 428 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: illicit thing, but we're not going to paint it as 429 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: quote unquote sanitized just white people having a good time. 430 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: Even we're gonna show you what it looks like, right. 431 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: And one of the things I love about it UM 432 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: the zine is they get a lot of UM authors, 433 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: well known authors to contribute to it, and not all 434 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: of them smoke or have edibles. They just it's just 435 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 1: an issue that they think should be decriminalized because it 436 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 1: is impacting marginalized people at such higher rates. And I 437 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: love that that you can. I feel like we just 438 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 1: assume if someone's for it, it means that they secretly 439 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: want to get higher, they secretly do get high, which 440 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 1: is not always the case at all. And we're just 441 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: painting again with this big brush a multitude of people, 442 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: uh that we shouldn't there. There's a lot there's a 443 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: lot of experiences out there that gets ignored when you 444 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:05,199 Speaker 1: do that. Absolutely absolutely, So let's talk more about some 445 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: of the women, like the Dope Girls who are really 446 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 1: pioneering in weed. After this quick break and we're back 447 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 1: and he was just sharing some really cool work done 448 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: by the Dope Girls here in Atlanta. Women are pretty 449 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: involved in this booming legal weed industry, though it is 450 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: lagged a bit recently in the pot industry. The shareff 451 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: startups owned by women is shrinking, even as female entrepreneurs 452 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 1: thrive in small businesses. Overall. Two years ago, women made 453 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: up of executives in cannabis related companies, about average for 454 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: small businesses on a whole. This year, the percentage of 455 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: women entrepreneurs was unchanged, but female executives in the cannabis 456 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 1: industry dropped now. This is according to information from the 457 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: Marijuana Business Daily. But even though the number have lagged 458 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 1: a little bit, there are still some really really rad 459 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: women who are rock in the cannabis industry. Yeah. Um, 460 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 1: You've got women like doctor the Kesha Jenkins, who has 461 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: a doctorate in naturopathy and is a member of the 462 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 1: American Herbalist Guild and is a Master irbalist and founding 463 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 1: board member of the California Cannabis Industry Association. She helped 464 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: draft the legalization laws that passed in the state of California. 465 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: I love hearing about her because we often forget about 466 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: the hard sciences. I feel like we talk about marijuana 467 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: and she's a doctor, so that was really cool. Yeah. Um. 468 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 1: Also there's Wanda James. She became the first black woman 469 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: to own a pot dispensary. She's a former Navy lieutenant 470 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: who served on Barack Obama's two thousand and eight Finance Committee. 471 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: Her and her husband Scott, a renowned shaft, opened the 472 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: Apothecary of Colorado, and they became the first black couple 473 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 1: to open a participansary. I love the name of Papecary 474 00:26:55,480 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: of Colorado. You've got Lynn Lyman, the California state director 475 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: of the nonprofit organization Drug Policy Alliance, the leading organization 476 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: advancing drug policies grounded in science, compassion, health, and human rights. 477 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: Along with working to fund cannabis research. A Lineman's biggest 478 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 1: passion is making marijuana and marijuana advocacy communities more inclusive, 479 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: especially by creating space for those who were a vital 480 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 1: part of the weed industry before sanctioned by mainstream society. 481 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: So I kind of give it up for her, because 482 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: you know, when I mean bridge at the buzz Kill. 483 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 1: When these you know, new marijuana laws passed, which I 484 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: thought were great, part of me was like, yeah, but 485 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: what about the people who were arrested before? And what 486 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,959 Speaker 1: about the people who got in trouble because they were 487 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: trying to take part of this economy? And oh now 488 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 1: it's fine. So I'm happy that people are out there 489 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: working to bridge that gap and say, listen, if you 490 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 1: were a foundational part of this industry before it was cool, 491 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: I want to work with you. I want to talk 492 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: to you. I want to I want to see what 493 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: you're up to, because I just too often I feel 494 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: like we, you know, we put a switch and it's like, Okay, 495 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 1: it's cool now. And the people who are often kind 496 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 1: of at the gates, like ready to go with their 497 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: business license and the money in the capital to start 498 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: a business are often white folks and often men as well. 499 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: And so I like that there are people who are 500 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 1: kind of acknowledging that and working to make sure that 501 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 1: it's an economy that everyone can take part in, and 502 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: that if you were punished for taking part in the 503 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: economy before that you can still be you know, welcomed 504 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: in now because it just for me, it just doesn't 505 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 1: seem right that folks should you know. It's like people 506 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: who are foundational to the industry, you know, getting locked up, 507 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: losing their businesses whatever, or just shut out of it 508 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 1: now that it's a free for all. Yeah. Um, That's 509 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: another thing we talked about with Dope Girls is that 510 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: some of the fundraisers fundraisers. They do is bailout funds, 511 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: and um, I just talked to them, so it's fresh 512 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: on the brain. We're not like being sponsored by them 513 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: or anything. Uh they seem then I don't. I don't 514 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: think they even do sponsorships. But just just to be clear, 515 00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: transparentent Um. Jessica Peters of maxim Eds, a c B 516 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: D rich line of cannabis tinctures, is a medicine for 517 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: women by women, available in a variety of combinations to 518 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: heal what ails you from anxiety to PTSD to period 519 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: cramps in pain. Moxi Meds grows their CBD rich flowers 520 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: following organic standards to create what is known as f 521 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: E c O Full Extract cannabis oil using organic ethanol 522 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: to extract the cannabinoids and turpenes. You did it. That 523 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: was a mouthful. I'm so glad I did the research 524 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: for this at a time. Wow you for someone else 525 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: a delayed response time? You really mail that five? I 526 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: like reading it. Come on, that was like watching an 527 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: Olympic athlete like do a flip. It's like will she 528 00:29:50,920 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 1: stick that landing? Podcast judges say she did it? Are 529 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: gonna this. People are gonna be like, what is wrong 530 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 1: with any and bridget In this episode of they Okay, 531 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: Are they all right? They were almost there homestretch, home stretch. 532 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: We got this. So the last person I wanted to 533 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: shout out in terms of women who are pioneering the 534 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: cannabis industry is m J Freeway. Now, Freeway is kind 535 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: of bridging the gap between two very heavily male dominated industries, 536 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: tech and cannabis. M J pioneer systems that track inventory 537 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: for growers. Her partner founded a company in twenty ten 538 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: that provides tools for growing legal cannabis businesses and governments 539 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: to regulate the industry. So again, you can be a 540 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: woman involved in the industry and be a doctor, be 541 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: someone who makes a strain of cannabis. You can be 542 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 1: a software engineer. There are all different kinds of ways 543 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 1: to be involved, and I'm as happy that sort of 544 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: show the diverse arrays of how folks were involved, whether 545 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: you own a dispensary, or you're a doctor, or you're 546 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: a lawyer, or you're drafting legislation or you're running a nonprofit. Right, 547 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: it is not the stereotypical image that most of us 548 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: probably think of when you think of people who are 549 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 1: perhaps enjoying cannabis on four twenty what do you think 550 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 1: of people wearing a sweatshirt today? On and I happen 551 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: to be honest, I've never even seen Wayne's World, but 552 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: it's Wayne's world like that. Look, that's what it is. 553 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: Well that brings us to the end of this installment 554 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: of Bridgets unpopular opinion. We're gonna get an anti unpopular 555 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: opinions but everyone can hate you for a while. Oh boy, 556 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: I'm really excited about that one. Don't worry. That's some 557 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 1: That's some very calming stuff that will help you, you know, 558 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: deal with this. Very intrigued to find out more about 559 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: that and Bridge and I would love to hear from 560 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: you if you've got any unpopular opinions listeners, or if 561 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: how are you celebrating or not celebrating for twenty You 562 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,479 Speaker 1: can find us on Twitter at twitter dot com slash 563 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: mom Stuff podcast. You can tell I'm never on Twitter 564 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: because I read the Twitter handle, but I'm I'm aiming 565 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: to be on their www dot e w I get 566 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: out of here at times. 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