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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and happy President's Day weekend. We kick it

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Speaker 1: off with Texans Talk. What else would we do? That's

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Speaker 1: what we're here for here in the hun Day Texans

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Speaker 1: Radio Studio. Mark Vandermere and John Harris with you. Johnny

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Speaker 1: big plans this week. And it's weird not having a

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Speaker 1: football game. I know we had a weekend two weekends

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Speaker 1: ago without a football game, but you had the Senior

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Speaker 1: Bowl and you knew the Super Bowl was coming. Now

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Speaker 1: you have nothing except the UFL on the horizon.

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Speaker 2: No, don't disappoint me.

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Speaker 3: Thank God for YouTube, because YouTube has every game you

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Speaker 3: could possibly want in condensed form, full form. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: the last I don't know four nights, how many, just

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Speaker 3: five nights this week at about ten o'clock when I'm

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Speaker 3: just ready to go to bed, like, okay, let's watch

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Speaker 3: one of the let's watch a game, whatever it might be.

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Speaker 3: So one night it was Texas Kansas, the other night

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Speaker 3: it was Oregon Washington the championship game. Then yesterday was

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Speaker 3: Orgon Washington the first and the regulars game. So they've

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Speaker 3: got all kinds of games that I can just get

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Speaker 3: caught up on. And there are some commercials in some

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Speaker 3: of the games. You know some ads that pop up,

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Speaker 3: but they're the short one of the YouTube ads. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: come out of nowhere. Yeah, exactly. You're just watching it.

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Speaker 3: All of a sudden, there's Michael Pennix and xpedia. There's

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Speaker 3: you know, whatever reason to it. They do not time

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Speaker 3: in electronically generated. Electronically digitally generated.

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Speaker 1: But with all the AI out there, you think they

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Speaker 1: could come up with a good stopping point to take

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Speaker 1: a break, but they don't do that.

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Speaker 2: You think.

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Speaker 3: I saw the NBA. Speaking of AI, I don't know

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Speaker 3: if you've seen this. I saw us pop up on

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Speaker 3: Twitter today and Adam Silver. But I'm struggling with names lately.

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Speaker 2: You know what.

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Speaker 3: I saw a picture of Patrick Swayze, Ralph Maccio.

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Speaker 2: Outsiders, the Outsiders.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's Emilio, Like I I know, like, I'm

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Speaker 3: going at each one, and then I get to I

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Speaker 3: get to Matt Dylan.

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Speaker 2: I can't remember his name. Oh yeah, I'm like, what's

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Speaker 2: his name? Dang it? Matt Dylan is killing me.

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Speaker 1: He's my mother's best friend's nephew. How many tangents have

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Speaker 1: we been on so far in this show? By the way,

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Speaker 1: how deep can we go? Speaking of Matt Dillon.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of Matt Dillan, Well, I saw it. So anyways,

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Speaker 2: I saw this speaking of AI.

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Speaker 3: It was Wemby with Adam Silver and they were, I

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Speaker 3: guess doing something in Indniapolis kind of a It almost

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Speaker 3: looked like it was you know when Steve Jobs used

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Speaker 3: to present things at his Apple functions.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody strives.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Look, so they're kind of having that look.

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Speaker 3: And so Adam Silver said, hey, kind of watch this,

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Speaker 3: and he said, make pacers. I don't know, pacers, nuggets,

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Speaker 3: make it, make it. Let me see the game as

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Speaker 3: a Spider Man comic book or something like that.

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Speaker 2: And all of a sudden, this.

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Speaker 3: Game turned into a Spider Man comic book. And I'm like, whoa,

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Speaker 3: it's scary. It was wild frightening. I was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Wow, listen, I watched too many science fiction movies.

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Speaker 2: This is it. This is the end of us.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be little human batteries like in the Matrix

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Speaker 1: and little pods. They're gonna do right, they're a i's

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Speaker 1: gonna figure.

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Speaker 2: Out, you know what.

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Speaker 1: You know who the problem is? You guys, you're the problem.

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Speaker 1: We're fine. Us AI machines are fine. You, however, are

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Speaker 1: a big problem. By the way, my nephew is a

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Speaker 1: senior in high school. He lives in England. It's a

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Speaker 1: long story anyway, he's not going to college. He interned

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Speaker 1: for a couple of summers for an AI company and

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Speaker 1: they said, listen, we'll pay you X right out, and

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Speaker 1: X is a pretty decent number. We'll we'll hire you

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Speaker 1: right now out of high school. And he's gonna go

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Speaker 1: work for them. Why not you go to college to

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Speaker 1: don't know, maybe he gets whacked or something at some point,

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Speaker 1: but he can always go back. Why not just take

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Speaker 2: And he's doing AI.

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Speaker 1: He'll after four years there he'll be an expert or

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Speaker 1: even more of one in his field of choice.

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Speaker 3: You know exactly how I feel about that, because that's

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Speaker 2: He's trying to understand autism. He's got high function autism.

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Speaker 3: So he's trying to understand that a little bit more,

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Speaker 3: and so that's what he wants to get into. But

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Speaker 3: it's the same kind of thought that I think, same

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Speaker 3: think in certain circles, well, well, what's your degree?

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Speaker 2: Who cares what my degree is? If I can do

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Speaker 2: that job and do it well, yeah, then why does

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Speaker 2: a degree matter? As long as they agree and who

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Speaker 3: The people that are hiring have to agree with that.

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Speaker 3: And that's the hard part because I think it's it's

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Speaker 3: hard to get past that. It's like, oh, well, what's

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Speaker 3: your degree, don't worry about it? Do you know what

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Speaker 2: And yes or no?

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Speaker 3: And I mean, you know, I probably know. I probably

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Speaker 3: know two or three people that I've worked with in

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Speaker 3: the past that have no college degree, and yet they're

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Speaker 3: some of the smartest people I've worked with because they

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Speaker 3: and they were they were brilliant at whatever they were doing.

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Speaker 2: And so from that standpoint, good on him.

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Speaker 1: As it applies to athletes, though, you go to college

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Speaker 1: to play sports, and I get it. If you think

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Speaker 1: you have a chance that the NFL still get your

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Speaker 1: little differently, Yes, I think everybody would say that, all

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Speaker 1: the people we know who are successful and post playing

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Speaker 1: life would say, get the education.

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Speaker 2: I am. I'm with you. I do not, I mean

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Speaker 2: I would.

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Speaker 3: I would have loved for my kids to want to

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Speaker 3: go to college, but they just had different plans. And

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Speaker 3: you know, when you think about how expensive college is

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Speaker 3: for parents and for families, you know, for for your

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Speaker 3: nephew to be able to say, you know what, not

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Speaker 3: only are you not going to have.

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Speaker 2: To pay, I'm making money. I'm gonna get paid.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Which that's kind of what that's kind of what

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Speaker 3: I still plan right there, Like all right, cool, let's

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Speaker 1: See why they order meals? I have the daddy tax, right,

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Speaker 1: I got a couple of bytes, right, that's.

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Speaker 2: The daddy tax.

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Speaker 1: I want the daddy tax on the money they make

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Speaker 1: when they're working you. That's right, all right, let's do

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Speaker 1: this now as it's free. Agenciason coming up very soon

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Speaker 1: as we enter the month of March, when the league

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Speaker 1: year begins, we'll be at the Combine in a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks. Can't wait for that. That's still all pre

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Speaker 1: free agency. But when he gets going, the frenzy occurs

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Speaker 1: and it kind of slows down a bit. But there's

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Speaker 1: some significant signings and this team certainly participates in those.

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Speaker 1: But let's get into steal a free agent or two

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Speaker 1: from the AFC South opponents.

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Speaker 2: Let's do it.

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Speaker 1: It's legal tampering on Texans Radio as we look at

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Speaker 1: the free agent list of the Titans, the Colts, the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars and see, would you or would you not? Okay,

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Speaker 1: as far as these guys go, all right, I'll get

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Speaker 1: to the Titans last. I want to get to the

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Speaker 1: Colts first. Let's look at the Colts free agent list,

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Speaker 1: shall we. I'm going to give you an interesting one.

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Speaker 1: Not that the Texans are interested in this guy, but

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Speaker 1: I think it's a really unique situation for the Colts

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Speaker 1: as Anthony Richardson comes back from his injury. Because Gardner

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Speaker 1: Minshew is an unrestricted free agent heading into the league

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Speaker 1: year now, they still have time to resign him. Maybe

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Speaker 1: they're doing it. Yeah, But that is interesting for the

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Speaker 1: Colts because we all know this. They need a backup quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Everybody does, but especially them with the doubts about Richardson's health,

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Speaker 1: not the recovery from this particular injury, but the propensity

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Speaker 3: I don't think the Colts will let him go. I

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Speaker 3: don't think they can go without a safety net. I

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Speaker 3: mean I always think about that, you know, trapeze the circus, like, man,

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Speaker 3: what if they didn't have that safety net? But they

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Speaker 3: So they're like, oh, we're gonna flip three times and

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Speaker 3: the safety net. That is what Gardner Minshew is because

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Speaker 3: do you, honestly, if you're Chris Ballad and Shane Steichen,

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Speaker 3: are you a thousand percent sure that Anthony Richardson, with

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Speaker 3: his play style, with his injury history, that he is

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Speaker 3: going to be one thousand percent seventeen games not miss

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know that you do that. So I think,

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Speaker 3: I don't want to say Gardner minshe's got him over

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Speaker 3: a barrow in some sense, but Gardner minch you should

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Speaker 3: ask for a decent amount and challenge him and say, hey,

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Speaker 3: come on, let's go.

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Speaker 1: Johnny sam Ellinger cannot be your backup. No, he can't,

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Speaker 1: can Minshew? If I'm Gardner Minshew and his agent, are

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Speaker 1: they discussing? Listen, is there another place? No one's gonna

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Speaker 1: hire us, sign us to be the starter, but somebody

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Speaker 1: might sign us to nurture a young quarterback along and

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Speaker 1: they know we can play. I mean, the Colts almost

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Speaker 1: made the playoffs with Gardner Minshew playing virtually the whole season,

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Speaker 1: and if he makes one more throw, they're really pressing

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Speaker 1: the issue against the Houston Texans in that final game

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Speaker 1: of the regular season. So I'm wondering if they think

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Speaker 1: there is a better opportunity elsewhere.

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Speaker 2: So let's think.

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Speaker 3: About the teams that need quarterbacks. We kind of go,

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Speaker 3: you know, in the draft in some sense, what about

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Speaker 3: New England?

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Speaker 1: Would you rather have Mac Jones nurture a young quarterback

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Speaker 1: or Minshew? He's done it before you do it, and

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Speaker 1: you know what, you might mess around and win some games.

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Speaker 2: It's been proven absolutely.

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Speaker 3: The other one I thought of was Washington, but I

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Speaker 3: think Jakobe Brizette is still there. But I don't know

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Speaker 3: who his free agent status is. I want to say

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Speaker 3: he's a free agent, but I could be wrong with that.

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Speaker 3: But whether it's Sam Howell, or it's a rookie coming in. Well,

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Speaker 3: your backup is Gardner Minshew and he gives you an opportunity,

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Speaker 3: and it's Cliff Kingsbury. I think Gardner Minshew and that

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Speaker 3: offense would be really really good as a backup. I

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Speaker 3: know they they probably need to go out and get

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Speaker 3: Jane Daniels or Drake May or whatever they're gonna do

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Speaker 3: with the number two pick, or they get sit there

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Speaker 3: and say, you know what, we're happy with Sam. We

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Speaker 3: think Sam is gonna end up being a really really

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Speaker 2: He's gonna get settled. We're gonna go with Sam Howell.

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Speaker 3: If you think that way, Okay, let's not mess with it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: let's just we're gonna go with Sam. We're gonna draft

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Speaker 3: whenever he's ready. Right, who else these quarterbacks? We don't

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Speaker 3: know what's happened in Chicago. If Justin Fields gets traded

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: At the same time. Do you, I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Look the talent is amazing with Caleb Williams, and I

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Speaker 1: made some incredible plays. They're not even where they are

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Speaker 3: Johnny Oh, they were two and ten without him. Lincoln

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Speaker 2: After transfers, they're gonna try and develop.

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Speaker 3: God, Okay, well whatever, I guess that's what you say

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Speaker 2: Whatever. I think Kayla's gonna be fine. I think he'd

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Speaker 3: I don't know that I want Caleb Williams and Justin

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Speaker 2: The upside of Cala Williams is tremendous.

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Speaker 1: Is there any other quarterback in the draft who has

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Speaker 1: justin Fields, I'm definitely taking this guy. Let's say Williams

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no. I wouldn't.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't think he's the one. He's the guy. He's

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Speaker 3: the guy, Jane Daniels. I have his number two my

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Speaker 3: quarterback rankings. You can see those a football taker dot

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Speaker 3: that out. But I've Jane Daniels number two, Drake May.

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Speaker 3: I mean they're they're very close. I mean, I think

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Speaker 3: But I think Chicago it's Kayleb Williams. I mean, I've

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Speaker 2: Whatever He won a lot of games at.

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Speaker 1: Kind of got a wide receiver personality in some ways,

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Speaker 2: I forgot about Bajan.

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Speaker 3: I think Beajen would be you know, now, he's only

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Speaker 1: Uh, you know c J. Stroud here and Davis Mills.

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Speaker 1: Let's let him earn it, just like they did it

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Speaker 1: with it. Everybody would know that Caleb's gonna take over

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Speaker 2: I just don't think that.

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Speaker 3: Justin Fields, the Bears don't need that The Bears don't

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Speaker 3: need that controversy. The Bears just need to say we've

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Speaker 3: that areitting at four and five. Trad trade, Yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: A bold Marvin Harrison junior, So you can't go too low.

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Speaker 1: But you're probably gonna miss out on him because the

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Speaker 1: you can make a case that the Patriots do something

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Speaker 1: that magnitude where they're crazy talk they they're going to

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Speaker 3: I think so too. But there's a possibility. There's a

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Speaker 3: I don't know, Mac.

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Speaker 2: They can't.

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Speaker 3: They can't. They've got to draft the rookie. But maybe

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Speaker 3: good to pass up.

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Speaker 2: Here's the one thing.

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Speaker 3: And you've heard me say this about other years, and

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Speaker 2: Next year.

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Speaker 3: You have Carson Beck, you have Quenne Ewers, and maybe

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Speaker 2: Think he could. He would.

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Speaker 3: I thought a good year he's the kind of guy.

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Speaker 3: I could see a lot of teams wanting to build

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Speaker 3: I think there are gonna be opportunities. Okay, here's one.

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Speaker 3: This is crazy. What about the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: They already have Trey Lance as a backup, But.

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Speaker 3: I know they acquired him.

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Speaker 1: Of course, the backup situation is what's his name from

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Speaker 3: I want to see Trey Lance getting opportunity at some point.

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Speaker 2: Okay, here's another one. He's got to end up back in.

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Speaker 3: Would you take would you take Gardner Minshew or Malik

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, he's doing the whole AFC South tour

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Speaker 2: I mean, and just think about Will Levis.

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Speaker 1: Ran Carton Carthon. Oh yeah, he's good, he's good to go,

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Speaker 1: he's good to ship with us out Absolutely and they

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Speaker 1: desperately absolutely. Ryan Tannehill is a free agent too, by

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Speaker 2: If I miss you.

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Speaker 3: If I mincee in the the cults are like we

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's any question.

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Speaker 3: I look at the Titans and another saying some really

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Speaker 2: But Brian Callahan did a really good job with Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 3: Something happened to Levis and the way that Levis plays

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Speaker 3: banged up. I mean, if I'm the Colts, I bring

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Speaker 3: there might be teams in our own division that might

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Speaker 2: A look at Gardner Minshew.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and kind of see what more you can squeeze

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Speaker 1: You know what, Minshew goes to the Titans, Tannehill goes

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Speaker 1: to the Colts.

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Speaker 2: It could happen, folks.

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Speaker 1: All right, all right, you get to pick one of

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Speaker 2: This is sort of like it's not an expansion draft.

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Speaker 1: It is just free agency, and you're able to snare

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Speaker 2: Grover Stewart. Stop Grover Stewart. That's it. Huh, that's it.

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Speaker 2: Give me the other three just because I just chany more?

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Speaker 1: Oh oh man, Michael Pittman, No, Taekwan Lewis, No, okay, those.

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Speaker 3: What Grover Stewart and Kenny Moore. Now you know I'm

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Speaker 3: a long time. But when we get to Colts Week,

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Speaker 3: last four years?

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Speaker 2: The Forest Buckner and Grover Stewart.

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Speaker 3: Grover Stewart, the Forest Buckner and to me, oh God,

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Speaker 3: Grover Stewart. I like what the Texans have inside. I

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Speaker 3: can't remember who I was talking to about this. I

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Speaker 3: like what the Texans have inside. I think those guys

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Speaker 3: played really well this year. And I would love to

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Speaker 3: bring bring back Sheldon Rankins because I think I think

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Speaker 3: rank gets exactly what Tamiko wanted to do. Defensively. Those

444
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Speaker 3: guys really came around. Klil Davis and Kurt Heinisch are

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Speaker 3: the consumm rotation guys.

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Speaker 2: You've got Molik under contract.

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Speaker 3: But what those guys all are are I know it's

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Speaker 3: crazy to say, but they're all They're all relatively small.

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Speaker 2: They're all three hundred pounds ish. Grover Stewart gives.

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Speaker 3: You three twenty five of just brute strength, agility, all that.

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Speaker 3: Now you're gonna have to pay for him. Yeah, you're

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Speaker 3: gonna have to pay a million. Last year, I'll pay

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Speaker 3: it ten million. Last year, I'll pay ten million. You

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Speaker 3: kick me, well, he might pay twelve. I don't know

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Speaker 3: if he commands more.

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Speaker 1: But for the listeners, just so you know, along the

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Speaker 1: D line for the Texans, not just defensive tackle. But

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Speaker 1: I'll just read off a few of the unrestricted free

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Speaker 1: agents to be again, you can still sign these guys.

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Speaker 1: Sheldon Rankins, Derek Barnett, Jerry Hughes, Tierre Tart who emerged

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Speaker 1: late in the season a little bit, Hassan Ridgeway. So

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Speaker 1: both Rankins and Ridgeway. Oh Ridgeway's back. I forget about

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Speaker 1: him all the time. Okay, he's not back. He's unrestrict

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Speaker 1: restrict Okay, yeah, BA, So you've got that. You've got

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Speaker 1: some issues to deal with here along that defensive line,

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Speaker 1: and there's no way they're all back. Grenard obviously is

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Speaker 1: the big one unrestricted free agent, a guy you drafted.

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Speaker 1: I know it was a completely different regime then, but

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Speaker 1: you'd love to see him back if it's affordable. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what they're thinking, what they're saying, but this

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Speaker 1: D line is going to look very different. It's safe

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Speaker 1: to say you've got Will Anderson Junior coming back. You

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Speaker 1: know you have the reserves coming back. You got Kurt

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Speaker 1: Heinisch entering what year three, Now, that's gonna be awesome

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Speaker 1: to see, you know. Obviously with Malik in the fold,

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Speaker 1: that's going to be very nice as well. But you

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Speaker 1: played a lot of guys up front, and there's no

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Speaker 1: way all these unrestricted to bees are going to be back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no question.

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Speaker 3: And when I think about what Grover Stewart would do

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Speaker 3: here in this defense and then how it hurts the

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Speaker 3: Colts defense, I'm all about it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's go.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's kind of a it's kind of a

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Speaker 3: double whemie from that, from that perspective, and I would

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Speaker 3: pay a little bit of money for.

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Speaker 2: Grover Stewart for sure. Okay, I I'm down deep.

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Speaker 3: I don't think Chris Ballard lets Grover Stewart get one

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Speaker 3: inch to free. He's not getting outside that building at all.

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Speaker 3: I think Stuart's the kind of guy they've they've wanted

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Speaker 3: for a long time. Ten million, that's nothing, that's nothing

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Speaker 3: in the NFL for a guy of that caliber.

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Speaker 2: So Kenny Moore, you can you can, you can hit

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Speaker 2: me with too.

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Speaker 3: Again for the Colts there, they've got a quarterback under

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Speaker 3: rookie contract so they can pay they've got cap space.

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Speaker 3: There's always been this talk up in Indneapolis about Ballard

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Speaker 3: and cap space, and he's always a little bit stingy

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Speaker 3: with it. But one thing Ballard has done is he

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Speaker 3: will pay his own free agents. And they like Kenny Moore,

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Speaker 3: they like Grover Stewart, So I would imagine either one

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Speaker 3: of them gets close. But you get to the point

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Speaker 3: where you pay one. Do you pay Pittman? Now, if

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Speaker 3: you pay Pittman, you pay Grover Stewart. Do you have

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Speaker 3: money for Kenny Moore? Because I think Kenny Moore, you know,

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Speaker 3: depending on what you got going with Desk King, I

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Speaker 3: think Kenny Moore gives you Kenny. You know, Dez King

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Speaker 3: isn't coming back. Kenny Moore is kind of a younger

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Speaker 3: version of that. And he's also a guy that could

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Speaker 3: play corner in a pitch like he did against us.

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Speaker 3: He'd go outside, Nicol will come in, he'd go inside.

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Speaker 3: So from from that perspective, Kenny Moore would be really interesting.

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Speaker 3: But I'm not really sure what they're you know what

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Speaker 3: the Thought Project. Doubt they pay Pittman, right, I doubt

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Speaker 3: I doubt they pay him. I mean, they've got Alec Pearce.

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Speaker 3: But then if they let Pittman go, they're probably gonna

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Speaker 3: do the same thing. They're gonna look at a draft

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Speaker 3: for a wide receiver. I think Texans are better said

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Speaker 3: wide receiver with Tank and Eco. But they've got Alec Pearson,

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Speaker 3: They've got Josh Downs. It's not a bad place to start.

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Speaker 3: So I think Pittman walks. I don't think Pittman's gonna

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Speaker 3: find quite the market that some of the other receivers

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Speaker 3: are gonna find, in large part because this receiving class

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Speaker 3: coming in is really, really, really good.

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Speaker 1: And there are a lot of names you know, in

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Speaker 1: unrestricted free agency to be yes for these receivers. All right,

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Speaker 1: so you your pick from the Colts, I'm gonna let

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Speaker 1: you go.

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Speaker 2: Let's narrow down to one. Sure, you can Glover start,

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Speaker 2: that's all.

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Speaker 1: But I've got a Titan and a Jaguar that could

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Speaker 1: interest you as well, my friend. We'll get to them

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Speaker 1: as we go. Free agent tampering before the start of

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Speaker 1: the league year here on Texans Radio. Moving right along

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Speaker 1: on the program, Mark Vandermin and John Harris with you

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Speaker 1: as we are tampering. We are doing some legal tampering

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Speaker 1: for free agents, unrestricted free agents to be This is

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Speaker 1: us talking, not the organization. We are the typotheticals here,

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Speaker 1: and we went Colts free agent shopping and Johnny selected

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Speaker 1: Grover Stewart as a possible Texan if he were making

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Speaker 1: the decisions. Now, it's easy for us to say it's

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Speaker 1: not our money. But let's move on to the Tennessee

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Speaker 1: Titans and what they have available, because I'll start with

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Speaker 1: the D line here. They've got some names, you know

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Speaker 1: on the other side of the ball. We've talked about

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Speaker 1: them this week already. But Denico Autrey, Johnny, he is

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Speaker 1: a free agent to be made seven plus last year,

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Speaker 1: so he's one of these guys that you're going to

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Speaker 1: want to look at. They have a lot of guys

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Speaker 1: hitting free agency that I think they're very happy to

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Speaker 1: see hit unrestricted free agency. There are a lot of

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Speaker 1: names here where they're probably thinking good riddance, I mean.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for your service.

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Speaker 1: But we're good because I don't see too many game

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Speaker 1: breakers here that are hitting unrestricted free agency, particularly on

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Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 2: For the Tennessee Titans.

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Speaker 3: Hit me with some of the other ones, because when

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Speaker 3: you say.

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Speaker 2: Sean Bunting, Terrell Edmonds. These are secondary guys. Christian Fulton. No, no,

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Speaker 2: I'm not touching any of the secondary guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you look at Trevis Gibson on the

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Speaker 1: D line.

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Speaker 2: Who else do it?

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Speaker 1: Joe Jones, Marlon Davidson, Ross Blacklock or old Buddy pick

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Speaker 1: number forty. Let's not revisit that. Kevon Wallace No, No,

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Speaker 1: t K McClendon.

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Speaker 2: No. Oh, Aziz al Shier. Oh now, let's talk.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about I don't know how I forgot

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Speaker 1: about him playing that linebacker.

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Speaker 2: I was looking at the secondary.

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Speaker 3: Figure out how he what contract he signed. He's only

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Speaker 3: a one year deal with him.

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Speaker 1: Five million, so here he is hitting unrestricted free agency.

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Speaker 2: I mean that that's the one I would think about.

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Speaker 1: He's one of the best linebackers we've seen this year.

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Speaker 1: On the opposing side.

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Speaker 3: Where did he play prior to the Titans San Francisco

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Speaker 3: forty nine ers?

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Speaker 2: And his defensive coordinator was Demiko Ryans? Thank you? So

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Speaker 2: he knows him well because he's l Schier.

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Speaker 3: Yes, all right, yes, I that guy played sick in

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Speaker 3: the first game, the one that Case played, and I

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Speaker 3: thought even in that game he was.

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Speaker 2: He was exceptional.

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Speaker 3: Watching him on film, I really liked watching him. I

587
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Speaker 3: just can't believe he's an restricted free agent. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: Demiko Demico coached him. I actually thought he was gonna

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Speaker 3: get appear, thinking, okay, our linebackers have kind of got

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Speaker 3: to be reset, we got to figure this thing out.

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Speaker 2: I thought he would end up here. Sought to be

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Speaker 2: a Jimmy Warden type here in the linebackers.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely yeah, So alsha, here's the guy would do Deniko Autry.

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Speaker 3: You know how I feel about him. I've always been

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Speaker 3: a huge fan. He's always been man a thorn in

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Speaker 3: our side. He can rush from inside outside, has all

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Speaker 3: that kind of stuff, and I think I.

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Speaker 2: Still think he's got game left.

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Speaker 3: But picking just one, I think al Shire is a

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Speaker 3: guy that I would probably take. Okay, Oh you know

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Speaker 3: who his teammate was at fau Is Devin Singletary.

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Speaker 2: Always forget about that unrestricted free agent. Unrestricted free agent.

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Speaker 2: He's twenty six years old.

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Speaker 3: He will turn twenty seven on August in August, so

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Speaker 3: I think you still have got at least three good

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Speaker 3: years two three good years.

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Speaker 2: He runs well, he knows the defense, not gonna.

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Speaker 3: Sit here and I mean, I thought the Texas linebackers

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Speaker 3: played very well last year. I thought Blake Cashman, Christian

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Speaker 3: Harris did some good things, but as we saw throughout

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Speaker 3: the year, that was one of the most banged up positions.

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Speaker 1: Denzel Perriman is unrestricted. Yeah, Neville Hewitt unrestricted special teams,

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Speaker 1: mostly played a little bit at linebacker.

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Speaker 3: So I think al Shire would be the guy that

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Speaker 3: I would I would take a look at if I

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Speaker 3: re signed Blake. I've already got Christian Harris in the fold.

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Speaker 3: What do I think DP still got left? Because man,

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Speaker 3: DP had some games. He had some games. His game

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Speaker 3: against a Titans free agent that we know very very well,

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Speaker 3: Denzel Perriman was instrumental in shutting down Derrick Henry, instrumental

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Speaker 3: in a game in Nashville. He was outstanding. But dp's

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Speaker 3: going into his tenth year. I think this is his

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Speaker 3: tenth year in the league. So what's what's he still

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Speaker 3: got left? Is how does the team perceive that? That

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Speaker 3: would mean I worry. But from a play standpoint last year,

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Speaker 3: when Denzel was right, Wow, is al Shire better in coverage?

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Speaker 3: That's the question. And he knows this defense, you know

628
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Speaker 3: its backwards and Fords. He knows Demiko al Shaw would

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Speaker 3: be the guy. Offensively, we all know it's Derrick Henry.

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Speaker 3: I mean Nick Westbrook a keene. I think he you know,

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Speaker 3: for us, he'd be a four maybe. So I don't

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Speaker 3: know if I'd really want to look that way. Brewers

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Speaker 3: too small. I don't want to worry about that. But

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Speaker 3: Derrick Henry, what's your thought on Derrick Henry. You can

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Speaker 3: get Derrick Henry for a two year contract, twenty million,

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Speaker 3: sixteen million guaranteed.

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Speaker 1: I might do it just to do it, you know,

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Speaker 1: Derek Henry, Johnny, could you imagine Derek Dereck Henry Well

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Speaker 1: his own blocking scape. Listen, it's Derek Henry. We'll figure

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Speaker 1: it out, right. Yeah, let me ask it this. Does

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Speaker 1: Derrick Henry change the way you organize your offense?

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think too much. I think he would.

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Speaker 3: I think he would fit in doing and doing the

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Speaker 3: things that they would want it.

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Speaker 1: He just stays front side the whole time, just bulldozees. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I think there's another four or five yards problem.

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Speaker 1: Good job, Derek Well.

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Speaker 3: I think some of the runs, you know, I was

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Speaker 3: find it interesting we were talking about the running game because

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Speaker 3: I do think there were there were some runs last

651
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 3: year that that Motor cut back on because obviously there

652
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 3: was a cutback lane. But a guy like Derek Henry

653
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 3: might continue front side and let things develop a little

654
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 3: bit more and he could pop it the same way.

655
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 2: But staying front.

656
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 3: Side, break a tackle, right, break a tackle, get in

657
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 3: the secondary. Also in the seven yard gain, whereas Motor

658
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 3: goes backside, he gets a seven yard game. It's just

659
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 3: a different way to do it in this scheme. But

660
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 3: I like that this is the scheme allows you to

661
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 3: do that two years, twenty million, sixty million guaranteed.

662
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 2: I think I'd do it.

663
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: I'm on record saying Derek freaking Henry. I'm on record

664
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: saying I'd probably go Barkley. Yeah, but Barty's got more

665
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: of an injury history. Henry looked good in that last

666
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: game against the jackson I know he didn't look good

667
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: at all against the Texans this year, which is.

668
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 2: Weird to say.

669
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: Think about all the things that we reversed or turned

670
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: back this year as an organization, just amazing stuff. All right,

671
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 1: let's move on to the Jacksonville Jaguars. So your pick

672
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: for the for the Titans turns out to be al Shire. Okay,

673
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: the linebacker. So the Jaguars, let's go free agent shopping here.

674
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: Who do they have that's set to hit unrestricted free agency?

675
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: And that would be pass rusher Josh Allen, Jamal agnew,

676
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 1: interesting player. I get the feeling Nick likes him. He

677
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: speaks glowingly about hiving the scouting reports. Yes, Uh, Dewan Smooth, Okay,

678
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: Uh Ridley, I'm.

679
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 2: Touching Calvin Ridley.

680
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just not and and I just last

681
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 3: year he looked discombobulated, and I know he'd been off

682
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 3: streak ball.

683
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: He's now he heard us at times. Oh yeah, he

684
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: can hurt you, but he can also drop a big ball.

685
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: And uh, it doesn't look so good.

686
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 3: Could CJ make him look like the Calvin Ridley we

687
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 3: knew and followed out of Alabama?

688
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 2: Maybe? But I don't know if you're gonna pay him.

689
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 2: I'm just doing that. There are options. I don't want

690
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:34,959
Speaker 2: to pay a receiver and free agency.

691
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 3: I just don't because I think the receivers in his

692
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 3: draft class are outstanding. So I don't want to do it.

693
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 3: But let's have a conversation about Josh Allen. Let's do

694
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 3: it defensive end, Josh Allen. I want to get I

695
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 3: want to get this point because this happened. I was

696
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 3: driving down the road. I was listening to Sean and

697
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 3: Seth and I don't know how it got brought up,

698
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 3: but just they were talking about the Jaguars. But then

699
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 3: they kind of did like we did. They're kind of

700
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 3: having a tangent somewhere. And then they said the word

701
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 3: the name John. I went, Bill's quarterback. You still default

702
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 3: to Bill's quarterback, Josh Allen. So Jaguars defensive end. Every

703
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 3: time I say Josh Allen's name, it's gonna be Jaguars

704
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 3: defensive end Josh Allen. I think he's going to want

705
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 3: to get paid, paid, paid.

706
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 2: He's gonna want bucks.

707
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 3: And I I know that people talk about the game

708
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 3: he had against us. He had two and a half sacks.

709
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 3: A sack and a half came off of either missed

710
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 3: assignments or just being a free runner do the scheme.

711
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 3: So Josh Allen has never really hurt us. To be

712
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 3: honest with you, I don't think I've never been terrified

713
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:40,959
Speaker 3: of him.

714
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 2: That's a good point. I've never been terrified of him.

715
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 3: Now he's still what he's twenty six will be twenty

716
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 3: seven in in July, so twenty seven going to this year,

717
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 3: he's probably gonna get I don't know, twenty three twenty

718
00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 3: four million.

719
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 2: I just I can't do that. I can't do that.

720
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 3: I feel like there's some good edge rushers that are

721
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 3: young in this draft that if at twenty three, one

722
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 3: of those young edg rushers are gonna fall to me,

723
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 3: so I might be in the Hey, Josh Allen might

724
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 3: be the nomdy assim wise edge.

725
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: Rushers, okay, because seventeen and a half sacks very attract he.

726
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 3: Might be the Namdi asimal. Everybody's shooting for him. So okay,

727
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 3: he's gonna get paid. He's gonna get twenty four to

728
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 3: twenty five million dollars. But you know what, I'm gonna

729
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 3: go probably a layer underneath, whether it's resigning Grenard bringing

730
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 3: him back or resigning or signing somebody and that, and

731
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 3: then also signing al Shire from Tennessee. You know where

732
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 3: if I signed Josh Allen, and man, maybe I can't.

733
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 2: Sign another guy.

734
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 3: I can't sign Grenard, and I can't sign you know,

735
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 3: Daniil Hunter, and or I don't know whatever, whoever the

736
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 3: free agent would be.

737
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 2: I just feel like.

738
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 3: He's gonna ask for so much money that it's just

739
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 3: not gonna be financially worth it with what you get

740
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 3: on a field from him and what you're paying for him.

741
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 2: Anybody else attractive to you from the Jaguar.

742
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 3: Well, the weird thing is they don't have a lot

743
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 3: of a ton of unrestricted free agents.

744
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: They don't have a lot of big names, right, It's

745
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 1: kind of like the Titan situation.

746
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, now go back to your thought about Jamal Agnew.

747
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've said kind of all along that I think

748
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 3: what would be kind of interesting in this offense would

749
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 3: be kind of a kind of a combo guy, you know,

750
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 3: a weaponex is. As I put it in my draft database.

751
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 2: Return special packages for that kind of thing.

752
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 3: Absolutely put them in a backfield. He I remember the

753
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 3: Philadelphia Eagles game at twenty two. He ended up lying

754
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,919
Speaker 3: in a backfield and just shooting it a flat and

755
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 3: gets open catches, makes one move on a guy in

756
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 3: the rain touchdown. I think Agnew could end up being

757
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 3: a really interesting free agent, and I don't think you

758
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 3: have to break the bank for him. So and you're right,

759
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:51,399
Speaker 3: And that's one of the things that I always think

760
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,439
Speaker 3: about is how does Nick when he does the scout

761
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 3: of reports, what does he say about who are the

762
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 3: first guys he mentions? And Agnew is one of those guys. Yeah,

763
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 3: that pops off. He he changes the game.

764
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 1: When he got hurt, they weren't as good exactly exactly,

765
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: and that kind of coincided with their slot. I'm not

766
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 1: saying was all him, but just a part of things there. Yes,

767
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 1: really interesting organization because, yeah, they end up with a

768
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: winning season, which for them is a headline I'm sorry,

769
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: I mean based on last year no, last year meeting

770
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two success, No, but they follow it up

771
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 1: with a winning season. It was a bitter disappointment to

772
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: lose to the Titans, but the Titans played a really

773
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: good game and they had Derek Henry going nuts. We've

774
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: seen that before. We've seen that movie before. So I'm

775
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: not here to write off the Jags. Those who think,

776
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: oh AFC South repeat, let's go and let's get right

777
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: back to the divisional round and do better next time. Yeah,

778
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 1: I'd love to see it, but you got to do

779
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: a ton of work just to get back there. And

780
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: that's not just to get back there, just to win

781
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: in week one, all right, just to deal with the Jaguars,

782
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: the Titans, the Coults who are coming for your lunch

783
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: money and you got to protect it.

784
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 2: All right.

785
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,919
Speaker 1: Coming up, that's our free agent Tampa for now, because

786
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: I know we have more, We have more to do.

787
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 2: It's legal tamper. We just started an NFC South. It's

788
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 2: hypothetical radio tampering. That's what we're doing.

789
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: But I want to talk about this because you have

790
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: already watched it and it's up on Apple TV. The

791
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 1: Patriots Dynasty documentary. We talked the NFL Today documentary yesterday.

792
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: I've got another documentary or two.

793
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 2: These need to be made.

794
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: And as a certain team in the NFL headed for

795
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: a certain documentary series that goes on NFL Network. That's

796
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: not much of a tease, but we'll pay it off anyway.

797
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: It's coming up here on Texans All Access all right,

798
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: heading into the stretch. Run here on Texans All Access tonight.

799
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: Hope you have great weekend plans. If you're working, Thank you,

800
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 1: Thank you for your service working, especially.

801
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 2: Working in restaurants and stuff like that.

802
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: You know, we all had to work on weekends at

803
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: some point, and I work a lot of weekends throughout

804
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: the year. But I don't consider it work. But we

805
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: all had to do these things. And if you're in

806
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 1: that mode, thank you for doing that, and everybody can

807
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: have a good time and hopefully you can have some

808
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: good earnings out of the deal. All right, let's get

809
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:09,760
Speaker 1: to this, Johnny. How was it the Patriot Dynasty Apple

810
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:15,760
Speaker 1: TV documentary? Any good dazzling revelations out of that one?

811
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 3: They posted the first two episodes, so it sounds like

812
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 3: Friday is going to be their day to post, which

813
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 3: I think is pretty typical of Apple TV. Of the

814
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 3: of the series is that I remember they all post

815
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 3: on Friday, maybe Ted Lasso, but in typical Apple TV form.

816
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 3: They I saw Julian Edelman tweet it's on, and then

817
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 3: he you know, said, hey, you know posted the Dynasty stuff.

818
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 3: Said oh okay, let's see if it's there. In about

819
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 3: eight o'clock last night, it was there. I was like, okay,

820
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 3: and I just locked in. My son decided he was

821
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,919
Speaker 3: going to bed early, like really early. So it's about

822
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 3: nine o'clock. Dogs are going to sleep. I was like,

823
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 3: I'm watching this uninterrupted, watching it, and I.

824
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 2: Walked out there going, this is really well done.

825
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 3: They've got footed shit, they've got great footage. And I

826
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 3: know everybody wants to hear the interviews, but man, they've

827
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 3: got really good footage.

828
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,760
Speaker 2: They talked to people for years.

829
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 3: Everybody talked about Ernie Adams, this director of football Research,

830
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 3: this mysterious figure he was.

831
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,720
Speaker 2: He's interviewed. Oh that is cool. I'm like, wow, Okay,

832
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 2: is he the one who discovered Tom Brady.

833
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 3: Well, they don't get into who discovered him, but they

834
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 3: have some draft room footage from what they were sort

835
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 3: of alluding to was the two thousand draft. The funny

836
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 3: thing is, if you look back at the two thousand

837
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 3: draft for the Patriots.

838
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 2: It's hot garbage. A lot of their drafts were except

839
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 2: for pick, It's a good pick. So they talked.

840
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:50,720
Speaker 3: They talked to Brady, they talked to Brady's U, Brady's family, mom, dad, sister,

841
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 3: were all gizelle. No gizelle that not yet. I did

842
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 3: not see none of them. They had great footage from

843
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 3: Brady's rookie year home video, stuff from Brady in the

844
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 3: house that he bought from Tylaw, which is a very

845
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 3: funny moment when Tyler talks about that with Tom Brady

846
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 3: and they kind of go there's a little bit of

847
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 3: back and forth, even though they're not in the same room.

848
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 3: It's kind of interesting. But man, they've got good footage.

849
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 3: But they go all the way back. They go to

850
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 3: Craft buying the team, talking about the Patriots, you know,

851
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 3: then the Bloodsoe, you know, drafting Bledsoe, the fact that

852
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 3: Bledsoe had become nobody reaches like Bobby or the Bird

853
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 3: status in Boston, but Bledsoe had become trying to think

854
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 3: of a good comparison, but he had become kind of

855
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 3: like he was a star.

856
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 2: He was there, James Harden. He went to a super Bowl.

857
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 1: Yeah they lost to the Packers, Yeah, but he got

858
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 1: them to a super Bowl.

859
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 2: The right, big news, right, Belichick.

860
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 3: Takes over in two thousand and when Bledsoe gets hurt.

861
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 3: They get a chance to see Brady at work and

862
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 3: see how Brady works and how Brady was doing all this.

863
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 3: It was really really well done. I think one of

864
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 3: the guys that was great was Scott Pioli. Scott Pioli

865
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 3: was interviewed and talking about the things that they were

866
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 3: having to deal with with the Drew Bledsoe thing, because imagine, imagine,

867
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 3: like say Matt Shab back in the day. I mean,

868
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 3: Bletze has had a higher Q rating in Boston than

869
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 3: Shab had here. But imagine if Shob gets hurt and

870
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 3: the backup is playing pretty well, and the talk that

871
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 3: would have gone if Shob got back healthy, what were

872
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 3: you gonna do?

873
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 2: How are you gonna handle this? And the fact that.

874
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 3: Belichick had been through it before with Bernie Coosar with

875
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 3: the Cleveland Browns, So now he's making this decision to

876
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 3: go with the other guy again and he's getting crucified,

877
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 3: and then Brady bails him out. Brady goes out the

878
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 3: game after he makes the decision to stick with Brady.

879
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 3: He throws four touchdowns and the proverbial rest is history.

880
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 2: And away you go.

881
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:55,879
Speaker 3: So they stopped episode two just after the Tuck Rule game,

882
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 3: and the tea's kind of at the end was Tom

883
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 3: Brady and the AFC Championship game takes a sack and

884
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 3: on the ground writhing in pain, and then boom cut

885
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 3: the credits.

886
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, so a lot of people don't remember

887
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: what happened. I'm not gonna don't spoil it. It is

888
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: sports history, so it's out there.

889
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 3: But anyway, it's been there, but I'm really interested to

890
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 3: see how they continue to put together. What I have

891
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 3: heard about it was that the first first few episodes

892
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 3: kind of set everything up. In the middle they got

893
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 3: talked about the Dynasty, they get into apparently apparently they

894
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 3: get into spygate, flake Gate and Aaron Hernandez.

895
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 2: Okay, now how deep they go in, don't know, but

896
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 2: apparently two and Brady yelling at each other on the

897
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 2: if they get into that.

898
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 3: But apparently the last two or three episodes are all

899
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 3: about the Brady Belichick relationship and Robert Kraft trying to

900
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:46,280
Speaker 3: keep it together.

901
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 2: I can't wait for those on the fall of the Dynasty.

902
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: I'm interested. Yes, I want to see the demise. So

903
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 1: I know I'm that way. I'm just bitter in shallows

904
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: a sports fan. What can I say? So you know

905
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 1: that The Missing Rings, Yeah, yeah, yeah series. Yeah, I

906
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,720
Speaker 1: was on NFL Films. Yeah yeah, they did a series

907
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: called The Missing Rings. Obviously, the Buffalo Bills, the Minnesota

908
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: Vikings of the seventies, the Missing Rings, the San Diego

909
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: Chargers with bouts, Missing Rings, teams that could have would have,

910
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,720
Speaker 1: should have won Rings, didn't do it, couldn't do it whatever.

911
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 1: It's interesting to me now how the San Francisco forty

912
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 1: nine Ers, despite having Super Bowl championships in their past,

913
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: for by Montana won by Steve Young.

914
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 2: Yep, they go to another one and lose.

915
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: We're gonna start talking about a missing rings on them, yep,

916
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: because this has been a hell of a run, but

917
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 1: it's difficult to get over the top, especially in the

918
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: land of the Chiefs right now, which happens to be

919
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:44,280
Speaker 1: the NFL.

920
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 3: When they lost to the Chiefs in after the nineteen season,

921
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 3: which by the way, I was thinking about we've you know,

922
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 3: we've lost to Well, we didn't this year because we

923
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 3: didn't face the Chiefs, so I'll forget about that. But

924
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 3: after the forty nine Ers lost that the first matchup

925
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:11,439
Speaker 3: with the Chiefs, I don't remember there being this Kyle

926
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 3: Shanahan can't win the big one. Kyle Shanahan made these mistakes,

927
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,919
Speaker 3: even the players talking about what they didn't do.

928
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 2: Whatever the case might be.

929
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 1: This is more severe, but there was some talk because

930
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: Atlanta was fresh in everybody's mind from sixteen right blowing

931
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 1: that lead obviously twenty eight to three, and they blew

932
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:30,879
Speaker 1: what a ten point lead, a ten.

933
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 3: Point lead, but I kind of felt like the Chiefs.

934
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 3: I don't know, there was less of it.

935
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: There was less of Shanahan blowing the big one, but

936
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:38,280
Speaker 1: now it's gotten heavy.

937
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 3: Holy cow, between the decision in overtime, Brandon at Yuk

938
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 3: saying he wants out the two offensive lineman John Feliciano

939
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 3: basically throwing Spencer Burford under the bus for blowing.

940
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 2: Up protection bad. You got all that going on.

941
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 3: Apparently the media out there is just constantly harping on

942
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 3: this overtime decision, like they've just they've dug their heels

943
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 3: in and like that's the decision that cost the game.

944
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 2: It's not.

945
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,479
Speaker 1: And you know what, you and I were talking about

946
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: this earlier in the week, right we went right to

947
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: it and I said, I don't agree with the decision

948
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: to take the ball, but I'm not saying that's why

949
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: they lost either. I think you're basically doomed if you

950
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: go to overtime with the Kansas City Chiefs, They're gonna

951
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: find a way. But I do agree you should have

952
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: let them on the field first, so you know what

953
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 1: you could do. Now, maybe the defense was tired, whatever

954
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,479
Speaker 1: other factors went into the decision, but to think about

955
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: that third possession. Are you enjoying that third possession? Can

956
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,720
Speaker 1: I see the footage of that third possession? Well, really,

957
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 1: we don't have it.

958
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, because there wasn't one speaking of footage, and

959
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 3: this is kind of to my point, the micd up

960
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 3: is fantastic. I watched that either the night before, the

961
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 3: couple nights ago. That moment is really interesting from all

962
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 3: all parties, from the time they go out there, even

963
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 3: before they go out there, Malmes is talking to Andy

964
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 3: Reid about Hey, what are we going to do? How

965
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 3: we're gonna do this, And basically the only question that

966
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 3: you can hear and ask is which way do we

967
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 3: want to kick?

968
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 2: You know, He's like, all just kick this way.

969
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 3: So they were you know, they wanted to go second,

970
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 3: no doubt they were saying, okay if they went to toss,

971
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 3: and I mean it was the Chiefs were expecting them.

972
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we were surprised.

973
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 3: There's a there's a moment where you see Dave tab

974
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 3: who's the special teams coach, talking to the kickoff team,

975
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 3: going we were gonna kick if we won the toss, yeah,

976
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 3: and which all of it is just fascinating to watch,

977
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,879
Speaker 3: but just watching the forty nine ers kind of melt

978
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 3: down a little bit watching and listening to Kyle Shannon.

979
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 3: Now Kyle didn't have this big meltdown or anything, but

980
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 3: I listened to his presser talking about the the you know,

981
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 3: taking the ball on overtime, and you could tell, Hey,

982
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 3: I've told you guys this.

983
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 2: You guys know how I.

984
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 3: Feel about Like he's repeating his you know, thought process

985
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 3: over and over and over again, and eventually that that's

986
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 3: gonna start to wear you down. So does that start

987
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 3: pulling out the fabric of that team a little bit?

988
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 2: I don't know.

989
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 3: I don't And that's that's where I get sort of curious,

990
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 3: Like what happens in a Super Bowl loss? You think

991
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 3: about the Eagles last year hangover the Eagles were, they

992
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 3: were hanging together for the most part, but then all

993
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 3: of a sudden you started hearing some rumblings and then boom,

994
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 3: six out of seven finished.

995
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,760
Speaker 1: You know what I hit about their demise, everyone calling

996
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: them out earlier in the year when they were winning,

997
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,879
Speaker 1: there's something wrong with them, And I thought, lighting up, geez,

998
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 1: they're winning, lax, and everybody's right, so that there was

999
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 1: something wrong with them.

1000
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 2: They got lucky though I'm not going to give them credit.

1001
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:32,240
Speaker 1: Those pundits on the morning talk shows on ESPN, Fox

1002
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: and all.

1003
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 3: That something's wrong, something's broke, that team was bro I

1004
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 3: thought the Chiefs were broken. Nope, they they got back

1005
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 3: to playing good, solid football on the defense. The defense

1006
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 3: filled in the gaps where the offense had been.

1007
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: We got a top five, top three quarterback and it

1008
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 1: really helps.

1009
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 2: That helps.

1010
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: All right, that's up for the show tonight. This will

1011
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,399
Speaker 1: be up on podcasts soon enough. Area forty five coming up,

1012
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: Sean and Patrick check it out. Of a great weekend.

1013
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: Go Texans.