1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,679 Speaker 1: Ron and Nannian. Did you ever notice in Star Trek 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: every time they visited Vulcan you never see cars on 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 1: Vulcan What he says, and I do, in fact agree 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: with it. The Car Doctor, imagine your pointed finger is 5 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:16,119 Speaker 1: the A B S sensor and the whole that the 6 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: finger is stuck into is the wheel bearing. Now you'll 7 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 1: understand this O seven Nissan Morano that I'm gonna tell you. Doctor. 8 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of Ron and Nanian the 9 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: Car Doctor. Since this is where car owners the world 10 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 1: overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 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One was with 38 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: the gang over at TST Technician Service Training. Jerry Trullian 39 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: Bunch or were there in Total, New Jersey. We were 40 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: in over there and I spent a couple of hours 41 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: with Jerry and the crew and talked about scanned tools 42 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: and then We went down to a great seminar in Paramus, 43 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: New Jersey with the boys from Denzo and Parts Authority, 44 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: Parts Authority dot Com and talked to them about well 45 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: it just you know, it was all about GM ignition 46 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: systems and um we got to see some old Friendzy 47 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: instructor as a matter of fact, a former employee, and 48 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: watch everybody and talk to everybody, and it was a 49 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: learning week. You know. I looked at what happened in 50 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: the shop this week, and because you know how it is, 51 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: you come home from the end of the day and 52 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: everybody says, how is your day, daddy? And you know, 53 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: I always think of that line General Patton said about 54 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: what you do in the Great World War Two. Well 55 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: it's not exactly something like that, but it was the 56 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,399 Speaker 1: idea that, you know what, I learned a lot this week. 57 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: It was a learning week. It was you know, for example, 58 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 1: I learned one of the biggest reasons why we get 59 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: carbon deposits. And I think this is really important because 60 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: we've been talking about that a lot lately here on 61 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: this show. As a matter of fact, I've got a 62 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 1: letter from the E p A. I've got a couple 63 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: of people out there that are doubting that the EP 64 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: is up to antics with fuel issues. And I have 65 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: a response to the question about changes in gasoline at 66 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: it is in and eighteen. I got a response from 67 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: them about some of the changes that are gonna be 68 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: coming up, and I think it's an indication of where 69 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: we're going. But we'll talk about that a little bit 70 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: later on this this week. But carbon deposits, in terms 71 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: of where it came from, it's it's so simple, it's brilliant. 72 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: You know what. The biggest problem in terms of causing 73 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: carbon deposits and engines are the oil that you're putting 74 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: in them. If you're not using a good quality all 75 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: for example, in a General Motors vehicle, if you're not 76 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: using a dexos rated oil, then chances are, because of 77 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: the design of the engine, you're gonna have a breakdown 78 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: and allow oil to pass go up past the rings 79 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: into the combustion chamber and it's gonna help promote and 80 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: quicken the formation of carbon deposits. General Motors is a 81 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: real issue with that. A lot of the other car 82 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: companies to a lot of the car companies are just 83 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: stating that, you know, lack of improper oil is going 84 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: to cause an issue for carbon and that's generally where 85 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: most of it's coming from, along with gasoline. They're all 86 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: concerned about gasoline, and um, it's become an issue. I 87 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: sent the letter out to the e p A and uh, 88 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: this is what I said. I said, good morning, I 89 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: hope this is the correct place for a question of 90 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: this nature. This was to the Support department for the 91 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: Environmental Protection Agency. My question was simple, we're hearing about 92 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: changes in fuel editive formulation requirement the next few years, 93 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: and my listeners want to know is the e p 94 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: A or any other agency mandating fuel editive removal beyond 95 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 1: the limits current limits and statutes as a concern over 96 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: carbon deposits and g d I engines if detergents are 97 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: removed and it's becoming more of an issue among other things. 98 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 1: Thank you, Ronning any in the car doctor, etcetera, etcetera. 99 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: Here's the response. Well, at first, I should also point 100 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: out and they were very nice. They got back to 101 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: me in a couple of days, and you know, we 102 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: started to talk to them about, Hey, we'd like to 103 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: put somebody on the show to really discuss this at length. 104 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: They're in or was I'm afraid we won't be able 105 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: to put someone on the phone with you, but I 106 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: hope the following helps. Please feel free to circle back 107 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 1: if you have any questions. In the e p A 108 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: finalized standards to cut the average sulfur content and gasoline 109 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 1: from thirty parts pavilion to ten parts pavilion beginning in 110 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: calendar year seventeen. The reduction in sulfur and gasoline will 111 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: lead to significant reductions and harmful SOO smog entail pipe 112 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: emissions from cars and trucks, and better health for Americans 113 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: by EP estimates, cleaner fuels and car programm and prevent 114 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 1: between two and sixers and ten premature deaths. The lower 115 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: fuel standards and this is the part that makes no sense, 116 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 1: and I am going to circle back and get an answer. 117 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: The lower fuel standards will also promote durability for advanced 118 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: emission controls such as catalytic converters, and may also reduce 119 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: the formation of engine deposits. Industry is currently evaluating issues 120 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: related to deposits for g d I engines, and the 121 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: e p A plans to keep abreast of the developments 122 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: in this area. I gotta tell you, I read that, 123 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: and I said you know, I don't get it that 124 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 1: you've made changes with the potential hot a potential harmful 125 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: side effect, but you still made the change anyway. That's 126 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: like Governor Christie cents to a gallant of guests here 127 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: in New Jersey this past week and all that that entails. 128 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: So bottom line carbon deposits are clearly an issue. Bottom 129 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 1: line e p A is clearly making changes to the 130 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: formulation of gasoline, and they don't exactly know where it's 131 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: going to take us. They don't know whether or not, 132 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: or they don't know what the long term damages. That's 133 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: not my opinion right here in black and white. I've 134 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: got it in writing. So for all you doubters out there, 135 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: guess what, Go get your own copy right the e 136 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: p A and ask them the same question and see 137 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 1: what answer they give you. And I already know what 138 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: it will be. So just be aware of that. What 139 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: going on this hour A thing I don't know. We're 140 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: gonna do it this hour, next day, maybe we'll do 141 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 1: it next hour. We're gonna be giving away and O'Reilly 142 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: Ota parts twenty five dollar gift card. Uh you know 143 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: that's up the subject of Tom Ray and uh yeah, 144 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: Tom you wanted to you wanted to jump in here, 145 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: and yeah, ron I actually hang on a minute. Oh 146 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: we're yeah, hang on one second ahead. Sorry about sorry 147 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: that Ron I was taking a phone call here. I 148 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: need to put the gentleman on the hold. This is 149 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: a little behind the scenes. Yeah, we've got a lot 150 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: going on today, folks. You have no idea. We're just 151 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: we're It's like being in the shop. I've got to 152 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: tell you. I counted at the end of the day. 153 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: At the end of the week. This week, Danny and 154 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: I walked out of They were exhausted. We were we 155 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: were just working every night until six, six thirty seven o'clock. 156 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: It was a crazy So here we are doing the 157 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: show and the same thing is going on. We're busy 158 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: this week. So yeah, you wanted something. You had a 159 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: car repair this week or something? Yeah, actually I was. 160 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: I was up in Elmira, New York, and my wife 161 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: called me and said, you know, the blower motors stopped 162 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: working in the car. Now imagine this, folks. Right here, 163 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: I am ten o'clock at night. I think it was Wednesday, Tuesday, Tuesday, 164 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: and I'm happy sleep. What Oh it's tom oh blower 165 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: motor or so I said to Tom. Tom wanted to 166 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: look up parts, and I said, go to O'Reilly Auto Parts, 167 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: and which is what he ended up doing. And it 168 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: was it was nice, right You're able to look up 169 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: all the parts there and see what you needed, and 170 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: look looked up all the parts. Got it. I actually 171 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: got exactly what I needed. Um, that with a couple 172 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: of suggestions on you know, maybe you do need a 173 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: connector for the resistor, because at this point I didn't 174 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:29,559 Speaker 1: know wasn't the resistor, wasn't the motor, wasn't a fuse? 175 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: What was going on? Um? Then I got home and 176 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: we ran out, took our daughter to her birthday dinner, 177 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: and uh ran over to O'Reilly, got the parts and 178 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 1: at ten o'clock at night, I'm under the dashboard of 179 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: the car, determined it was the blower motor and in 180 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: and you know, the car is happy and uh, Mrs 181 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: Mrs Mrs Tom Ray is happy. Yes. And there was 182 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: actually a very interesting, interesting phenomena with the car that 183 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: you and I were talking about too. Yeah, with the 184 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: way the wiring was, well, you know, Tom, I'll tell 185 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: you what the tech knowledge is changing for everyone else. 186 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: We were looking at the wiring diagram. And the way 187 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: they had it wired is they had power to the 188 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: motor and the switch was controlling ground correct, yes, the right. 189 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: The the the blower motor, the twelve volts was coming 190 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: out of the box under the hood out through the 191 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: blower relay, and the actual speed switch was controlling ground, 192 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: which would change taps on the resistor which would change 193 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: blower speed. Right, And and the way the circuit was wired. 194 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: We said, it's not logical that it's a blower, but 195 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: it has to be. But there was another anomaly to 196 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: that wiring diagram. Right, you fixed the blower motor, and 197 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: then something else started happening. Yeah, Well, at the same time, 198 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: my wife had said that, you know, when I opened 199 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: the door, the door locks don't do what they're supposed 200 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: to do. I mean, they work if you push the button, 201 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: if if you push the button, they just they don't 202 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: automatically open when you open the car doors. And I 203 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,839 Speaker 1: went and we'll look at that later. Replace the blower motor, 204 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: and magically that problem went away. Yet on the diagram 205 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,080 Speaker 1: it doesn't show any connection. Let me tell you what 206 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: we talked about in class this week, and then we're 207 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 1: gonna go to break so um. But anyway, so that's 208 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: the orilly Oto Park store more. They were great, they 209 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: were fantastic. O'Reilly Otto dot com. We're gonna give away 210 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: a twenty five dollar gift card. UH. This week in class, 211 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: we were talking about one of the instructors had rented 212 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: a Honda Civic and when he made right turns, the 213 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,079 Speaker 1: car went into limp mode. It actually started to slow down. 214 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: It went into limp mode like the UH drive by 215 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: wire throttle body or accelerator pedalist sensor went south. Well, 216 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: i'll tell you what. I'll give you the answer when 217 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: I returned. Let's do over. Let's pull over and take 218 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: a pause. UM, I'll keep you in suspense zero nine 219 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: zero running any of the card doctor. We'll be back 220 00:10:39,679 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: right after this. A thousand dollar car ronan welcome back 221 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 1: run an Indian car to ocurated by five zero nine 222 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: zero zero. So for those of you that over this. 223 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: Before the pause, we were talking about, well some of 224 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: the anomalies that we're seeing with cars, and I was 225 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 1: just gonna tell this real quick story. So this instructor 226 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: rented a Honda Civic. Makes a left turn, everything's fine, 227 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: makes a right turn, the car slows down, goes into 228 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: limp mode, which means it's it's barely accelerating. You might 229 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: have experienced it with your particular model car. It's across 230 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: the board GM, Ford, christ or Toyota, Honda. They all 231 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: do it limp in or power loss because the drive 232 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: by wire circuit the text of fault and shuts down 233 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: the vehicle, so it'll limp home, so it's not operating 234 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: under full speed. Makes a right turn, goes into limp mode, 235 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: makes a right turn without turning the directional on. It's okay. 236 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: Stands in the back of the car, notices that the 237 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: right side tail light bulb isn't as bright as the 238 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: left side tail light bulb. Takes the bulbs out, looks 239 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: at them. There are two different brands. Takes the right bulb, 240 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 1: puts it in the left side, takes the left ball, 241 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: puts it on the right side. Now when he makes 242 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: left turns the car goes into limp mode. Finds out 243 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: that the bulb that was in the right side now 244 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: left was incorrect and didn't have the correct resistance. Therefore, 245 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: Ohm's law right didn't have the same or correct current flow. 246 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: Somehow it tied into the vehicle. BCM tied into the 247 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: engine control system, and it saw that as a threat. 248 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: It saw that as a change in current because the 249 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 1: computers today are all measuring current, they're looking at current 250 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: as well as voltage drop it. Current is a very 251 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: big factor in today's cars, and it kept that car 252 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 1: from actually running properly, so you know, the next time 253 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: you think you've seen it all. Of course, that won't 254 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: happen in New Jersey because nobody in New Jersey seems 255 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 1: to be using the rectionals, So I don't think we 256 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 1: have any issue of that anytime soon where we're gonna 257 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: have to worry about people putting on the rectionals going 258 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: into limp mode. I'm sure that there's people like that 259 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: in your neck of the woods too, But anyway, just 260 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: an interesting anomaly. What did I learned this week? That's 261 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: what I learned this week that uh, you know, the 262 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: technology is just it's it's reaching the end of the 263 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: end of its limits. Anyway, let's kick the garage doors open. 264 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: Keep in mind, like I said, we are giving gift 265 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: card to a rally O to parts. I think this 266 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: iss well, no, it's not our first international call, but 267 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: it's it's it's my first call from London, England and 268 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:34,719 Speaker 1: let's go do that. Richard from London, England. That can 269 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: only be one and only Richard, Welcome to the Car 270 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: Doctors are proud to have you. Well, thank you very much. Indeed, Ron, 271 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: it's wonderful to be on the show because I'm a 272 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: I'm a loyal list. I love listening to you. Thank 273 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: you very much. How can I help you today, Richard, Well, 274 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: I've got a problem with my It's a little bit 275 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: older than some of the motor cars that that you 276 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: talk about, but it's a car but you'll be very 277 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: familiar with as a great engineer. It's a Sixtvette coup 278 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 1: that's the windows and again it's a dred four speed 279 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: and a little bit of a clutch problem. It's the 280 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: clutch wouldn't fully disengage unless I had the clutch right 281 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: on the floor. So I'm not an engineer, but of 282 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: course this this is a fairly standard GM mechanical clutch. 283 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: So I had a look at the adjuster rod and 284 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: it was about an inch from the end. This is 285 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: the the end away from the bulkhead. So I adjusted 286 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: it and it's actually fine if I adjusted so that 287 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: the nut is right on the end of the the rod. 288 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: You know, it's I think it's what you'd call denial rod. 289 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: It shouldn't be there. And I thought to myself, just 290 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: to give a little bit more in amazon, I thought, well, 291 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: this is a fifty three year old motor car, so 292 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: it could be that some wrong parts have got in there, because, 293 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: as you know better than me, the early cars they 294 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: had a short pedal rod and along fork rod. And 295 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: then in sixty six GM just slightly changed the geometry, 296 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: so they put about an inch longer pedal rod and 297 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: a slightly shorter fork rod, and they changed the angle 298 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: of the clutch cross shark, which I could in the 299 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: States you call the zebah correct. So and I looked, 300 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: and I have to be amazed. It was all bone 301 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: stock correct. So yeah, I could go out and buy 302 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: a longer pedal rod, the nineteen inch not the eighteen inch, 303 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: and then you know, in theory, problem solved. But that's 304 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: that's just bad practice, isn't it. You're going on to 305 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: a degree. I think you're hiding the problem. One of 306 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: one of one of my concerns would be is in 307 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: an indication of the clutch itself having a future issue, 308 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: did you did you buy the car like this, Richard, 309 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: or did it happen over time? Well, I I bought 310 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: the car. I had an inspector in the States look 311 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: at the car and he said to me, the clutch 312 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: is okay. It engages about a third of the way 313 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: through the travel. There's not the clutches. Fine, did a 314 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: complete check when it arrived in England. Um, it just 315 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: seemed to be a little bit a bit sticky. And 316 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: then when I when I drove at home, I thought, well, 317 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: I this clutch is just I've just got a little 318 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: bit of drag. Um. It hasn't had a new clutch 319 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: in it ron um. And the last owner, who is 320 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: lovely and I trust implicitly, he hasn't said anything about 321 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: the car, so I haven't got a lot to go on. Yeah, 322 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: I think I think what I would do is, let's 323 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: let's say it like this. It's a classic. What I 324 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: would try to do, first of all is be very 325 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: careful and take a good hard look at the z 326 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: bar at the at the cross shaft as you guys 327 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: call it um or there um, and just be sure 328 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: that it matches the majority of problems that I've seen, 329 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: the slightest bit of wear at the Z bar will 330 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 1: change the geometry and change how that pedal reacts very 331 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 1: very quickly. Yeah, uh, you know that's that's number one. Uh. 332 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: Number two, I'm just concerned doesn't have a slightly worn disc. 333 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: You know, the compressed tight of the disk will affect 334 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 1: how the fingers of the pressure plate extend, which will 335 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 1: affect where the throat, where the release bearing sitch, which 336 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: will affect where the pedal sits, and change the geometry 337 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 1: as well. So you know what I would tell you 338 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: to do, all right, and I'm up against the clock, Richard, 339 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 1: What what I would tell you to do is try 340 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: to line up an original Z bar, all right. Start there. 341 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 1: Make sure there's nowhere where the rods come into the bar. 342 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: Make sure there's nowhere at the bushings under the dash. 343 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 1: There shouldn't be any slop in the system, all right, 344 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: and start the battle from there. If everything looks good 345 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: and tight, uh, look and see what the z bar 346 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: tells you. If the z bar looks correct, and it's fine, 347 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 1: now you've got one in stock. And for something like this, 348 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: it's always nice to have an extra around And then 349 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: maybe think about in the future go to the longer rod. 350 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 1: But then maybe think about in the future going to 351 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: a longer bar and see what the see what transpires 352 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: that way, Richard, I gotta go. I'm up against the clock. 353 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: Sending an email. We can talk via that. I'm running 354 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: any in the Car Doctor. 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Two thousand two. Chevy Silverado 365 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: and some problems with a hard start. Mark. You're on 366 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: with the Car Doctor, sir. How can I help? Yes, sir, 367 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 1: I have this Silverado, okay, And when you turn the 368 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: key to start it, it doesn't want to start. But 369 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: then if you let off of the key and wait 370 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: about five seconds and then turn it again, then it 371 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: starts right up, does it? It's doing this for a 372 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: long time. Does it crank normally you turn that key 373 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: the first time, market it's crank crank, crank, crank, crank, 374 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: doesn't start. Release. You can leave the key engaged and 375 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: let it crank twenty times and it still won't start. 376 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: You can pop the gas and do everything and it 377 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: won't start all right. But then when you let off 378 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: of the key and wait five seconds and then turn 379 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: it again, then it then it will start right up. Now, 380 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 1: when I first bought the truck us about a year ago, 381 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,360 Speaker 1: it was it was doing that fairly way. I would 382 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: start up always on the second rank. Now it's getting 383 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: sometimes where I have to do it three times or 384 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 1: even four times, and it's just the problem seems to 385 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: be getting worse. Any other drive ability issues, No, no, 386 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 1: uh not at all. Every now and then at abs 387 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: break light will come on off, you know, not on 388 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: a two thousand two if it was. I had a 389 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: guy put a computer on it the other day and 390 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: he said there was no fault codes. So it's a 391 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: two thousand two Silverado. Do you know what engine marks 392 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: six lead five three is? It's the five it's the 393 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: eight cylinder. Uh No codes, no drive ability issues, just 394 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: doesn't want to start the first time around, right, And 395 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: I um even went and bought a new gas caft 396 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: the other day. Now that's not listen, let's let's let's 397 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 1: diagnose it. And and keep in mind a lot of 398 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 1: a lot of diagnosis is just knowing what's good so 399 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: you can figure out what's bad. Has anybody attempted any 400 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: sort of diagnosis at this up to this point? All right? 401 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 1: So like any engine, I just like I said, I 402 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: want to know what's good. Um, do you want to 403 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: do you want to diagnosis yourself or do you want 404 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: to send it down to the send it down to 405 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 1: your local guy. Well, if I just knew what was 406 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: wrong with it, I'm sure I could probably fix it. 407 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: It's a diagnosis. Well, I'm suspicious of the fuel pump, 408 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: but I want you know, I gotta get you there. 409 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 1: I gotta go. I have to go this route, okay, 410 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: number one? Um, I want to know, you know, when 411 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: it when it goes into this crank, no start, I'd 412 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: like to know does it have spark? Does it have 413 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: fuel injector pulse? All right? Now you know, either you're 414 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,919 Speaker 1: gonna go out and buy annoyed light and an expensive 415 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: spark tester. You'll spend under a hundred dollars and you 416 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: can hook those up or you can have your guide 417 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: do it. But I want somebody to physically check for 418 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: sparking at at more than one plug, and I want 419 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: to check four injector pulse at more than one injector. 420 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: All right, if you get past that, if it has 421 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 1: injector puls and it has spark and I'm suspicious that 422 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: it will, I suspect that it will. Then the next 423 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: thing I want to look at is when the engine 424 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: is called, I want someone to bring it up on 425 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: a scan tool, and I want to look at cool 426 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 1: in temp and intake air temp if that engine has 427 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 1: been if that engine has been sitting longer than eight hours, 428 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: sometimes four, but we'll we'll use eight. That's the industry standard. 429 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: If that engine has been sitting eight hours, cool intemp 430 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: and intake air temp should be within ten to twelve 431 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: degrees of each other. If there's if there's a huge disparity. 432 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 1: You know, if if cool in temp is sixty eight 433 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: degrees and ambient air temp is sixty eight degrees and 434 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: the intake air temp sensor says it's it's a hundred 435 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 1: and twelve degree. There's a problem, all right. If if 436 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 1: intake air is sixty eight and it's sixty eight degrees 437 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: out and cool attempt says it's twenty five degrees, there's 438 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: a problem. I always like to know what does the 439 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 1: computer think, what does the engine think, as far as 440 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: cool and temper and general temperatures. As I'm trying to 441 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: diagnose something like this number two, number three, I want 442 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 1: to know what fuel pressure is, all right. I want 443 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,360 Speaker 1: to know what fuel pressure is. I want to know volume. 444 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 1: I also want to sample of fuel pressure. All right. 445 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of I've seen a lot of 446 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: problems hard starts. Some people will get a poorly blended 447 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: or not as a not as volatile a gas as 448 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: they think they're getting. It's it's it's it's contaminated with ethanol, 449 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: or it's got higher quantities of ethanol in it. There's 450 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: a cheap kid out there for thirty thirty five bucks. 451 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: You can do an ethanol test. We're starting to do 452 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: that in the shop because we're starting to see issues. 453 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: But I just want to know what's the quality of 454 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: the fuel. But fuel pressure on that truck should be 455 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: five the eight pounds no less during a crank. If 456 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 1: that pump is putting out fifty six pounds, that truck 457 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 1: will not start period. Alright, So it's very very critical, 458 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: all right. And then and then while you're cranking it 459 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,719 Speaker 1: and you've got the fuel pressure gate hooked up, there 460 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 1: should be a dump button to release pressure, make sure 461 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: the pressure line is going into a Snapple bottle. There's 462 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 1: there's fancier pieces of equipment out there to do a 463 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: fuel sample and a food fuel volume test. But you know, 464 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a cheap skate. I like doing things simple. 465 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 1: The snapple bottle and under thirty seconds is a general 466 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 1: rule of thumb. If it won't fill the Snapple bottle, 467 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 1: that means it's got pressure but no volume, and that's 468 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: a problem. So all right, but those those are the 469 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: things I would begin to look at obviously. You know, 470 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: I like to make sure my battery is in good condition. 471 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: I like to make sure my battery terminals are good, 472 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: clean and tight. We could have a conversation about going 473 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: around the engine compartment looking at grounds, but you're on steps. 474 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 1: You're a couple of steps down the line. You know, 475 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,719 Speaker 1: first things a spark, fuel and injector pulse, because if 476 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 1: it has spark, I know that the ignition systems working. 477 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 1: If it has injector pulse, I don't know just that 478 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: it has injector pulse. I know the computers awake. I 479 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: know it's got a crank signal, all right. I know 480 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: a bunch of sensors ahead of the injectors are doing 481 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: what they're supposed to do as far as the PCM 482 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 1: is concerned. And that brings me down to fuel. I 483 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: want to see what fuel pressure is, all right, sir? 484 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: All right? Those are those are the things and some 485 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: quick basic simple things and we can kind of go 486 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: from there. If you need more Ronnet Car Doctor Show 487 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: dot com, you send me an email. Thank you very much. 488 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 1: You're very welcome to you. Take good care. Let's get 489 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 1: another talk to Glenn and Philadelphia RAV four and some 490 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 1: questions and comments. Yes, Glenn, welcome to the Car Doctor, sir. 491 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: How can I help good? What's going on? Two twelve 492 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: labs four at two questions? I want to ask you 493 00:25:55,840 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 1: about for escape this car. I'm looking at it online 494 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: and I was looking at the car back support and 495 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: it looks good. Um. The only question I have about it, 496 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: I got to one is it's got a hundred thousand 497 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: miles on it two thousand and twelve. I don't know 498 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 1: if the transfluid excuse me, an urban change or not 499 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: on this car. Um, do you know what the interval 500 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: would be for that? And if it hasn't been changed, 501 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: you know how much a risk am I taking by 502 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: buying it? If everything else has been maintained on the car? Well, 503 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 1: let's let's let's talk about that comment first. If the 504 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: trans fluid has not been serviced. You know, I'm a 505 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: believer birds of a feather. If the if the trans 506 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 1: fluid has not been serviced, then I question what's the 507 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: rest of the car like? And that's a concern. You know. 508 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 1: One of the things I frown on is someone will 509 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: come into the shop and announce, well, you know what, 510 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: I've decided to do maintenance to the car. It must 511 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 1: need something. It's only got a hundred and twenty thousand 512 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 1: miles on it, and I just, yeah, um, send shivers 513 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: down my back. You know, I get it that you're 514 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,679 Speaker 1: doing oil changes, and it seems like in this country 515 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: we focus so much on oil changes, we forget about 516 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: the rest of the car, We forget about trans fluid 517 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,199 Speaker 1: and coolant and all those things. So you know that's uh, 518 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: you know, condition dictates dictates price, and you know that's 519 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 1: the call you've got to make their because obviously I 520 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: can't see the condition from here. So that being that 521 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: being said, this is WUS fluid. This is Toyota's world 522 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: class fluid. Pretty durable stuff. Um that trans is pretty durable. 523 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: It'll take a beating. Um, I believe this to be WS. 524 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: I don't believe this to be a c VT. I 525 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: don't think there's a CVT in the twelve revs. Uh. 526 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: You know, so the odds are in your favor that 527 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: if you do a trans service, uh, you know, not 528 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: to say that, you know you they ran the Little 529 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: Old Man from six to eighty five a little hard, 530 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,919 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, maybe you want to do an 531 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: earlier trans service the next time around. And to the 532 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: interval question, a portion of the question, Glenn, I, I'm 533 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: a believer in you know, real world stuff and you 534 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: know older fluids. Here, I'll tell you a story. My 535 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 1: daughter's escape escape. She's got LV fluid in it, which 536 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: is Ford's, you know, rated for a hundred thousand mile 537 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: plus fluid. Everybody's changing it between thirty and fifty because 538 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: the additives in the LV is found to have found 539 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: is found that it has the uh what's the right word. 540 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: I'm looking for the nature the characteristic to break down 541 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 1: prematurely and and that creates an issue. So you know, 542 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: sooner is better than later. You know, I just changed 543 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: I just changed the trans fluid on that. It just 544 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: hit the forty thousand mile mark. Theoretically it was good 545 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: till eighty or a hundred thousand. Toyota's WS fluid is 546 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: is rated for the life of the vehicle. I'm not 547 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: sure what that lifetime is. Uh, you know, real world 548 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: we changed Toyota WS at the five the mark fifty 549 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: to sixties. When we start talking about it, you know, 550 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: um type four Toyota. The older stuff that you might 551 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: find the like an OH five camera or something will 552 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: do that in the thirty to forty thousand mile range. 553 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: So you know, it's but I think there's a lot 554 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: of life left in that car. Let me state that 555 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: unless that car has been really really abused, Toyota seemed 556 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: to react well to maintenance, and they react well towards 557 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: care and they will run a good long time. Okay, 558 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: the good question I heard about that car is I'm 559 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: about I'm almost sixty four and the seat does not 560 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: go back. It's a little bit tight for me for 561 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: some after markets brackets. Would that car say I'm involved 562 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: in an accident? You know? Could that potentially become an issue? Yeah? 563 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: And and and you know what, Glenn, stand the line. 564 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: I want to talk. I want to touch on this 565 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: real quick. I'm up against the clock. Let me just 566 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: pull over and take this pause, but I want to 567 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: talk about this. Don't go away. Five, I'm sorry, eight 568 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: five five. I knew it has to be something five 569 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: five zero nine zero zero? Who am I? Oh? I'm 570 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: running any in the car? Doctor, I gotta be me. 571 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: I'm I'm wearing my shoes. I'll be back right after 572 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: this the car doctor. Hey, I'm out of my dreams 573 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: and out of my head and I'm into my car 574 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: because that's what I do. I'm running any in the 575 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: car doctor nine zero. Let's get back to the phone's 576 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: Glenn from Philadelphia. You're still there, sir, Yeah, Yeah, we were, um, 577 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: we were talking about, um, what were we talking about? Len? 578 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: Refresh my memory. Yeah, you brought up a good point. 579 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: Safety issue if I alter the position of the two 580 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,959 Speaker 1: ivor's seat and I'm moving back and into through How 581 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: is that going to effect my safety and possibly the 582 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: car being expected if I get involved in an accident? 583 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: Is is the part you're using designed to do that? 584 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: Is it? Is it sold as a seat extender? Yeah? Okay, 585 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 1: the question shouldn't be directed to me. It should be 586 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: directed to that company because I I have I do 587 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: have concerns with that in that we're modifying something. Think 588 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: of it like this, um, you know, in terms of Toyota, 589 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: Think of the millions and millions of dollars in the 590 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: amount of engineering and statistical reports they've got on where 591 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: that seat should be and how it will react in 592 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: a crash and the crush zone and the crash zone 593 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: and all of that information. Here comes Glenn with his 594 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: you know, twenty kid of angle, iron and nuts and bolton. 595 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: He's gonna move the seat and you know what effect 596 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: does that have on all the data that the engineer 597 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: spent two years beforehand trying to come to market with. 598 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: So you know, that company that's selling you that bracket, 599 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: they've had to efface this before, and I'm sure they've 600 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: got insurance for this if something goes wrong, Heaven forbid, 601 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: and I'm sure they've got the data to back it up. 602 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: Otherwise I can't understand how they would sell it in 603 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: good conscience. And if they don't have the data to 604 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: back it up, that I wouldn't buy it, because you know, 605 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: any idiot can take a piece of angle iron and 606 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: move a seat, moving it safely as a whole. Another conversation, 607 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: and that's really what it's about. Because air bags, point 608 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: of impact, so many things have to come into the 609 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: consideration and be of concern. Does that Does that make 610 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: sense to you? As quick? Real quick? Ford escape with 611 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: the two leader Ego Boost. What's your paying on that 612 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: motor and that dog train? I like it? Well, I'll 613 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 1: tell you what. My daughter's driving a fourteen two later 614 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: Ego Boost. I like it. Um, you know she wouldn't 615 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: be in it if it wasn't a good vehicle. And 616 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: I think that kind of says it all. I'm a 617 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: little disappointed in Ford. I was gonna talk about this 618 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: next hour, but I'll touch on it real quick now. 619 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: They've you know, they issued a recall for the car 620 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: just this week about the side door latch may break, 621 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: which they may make the door difficult to latch the 622 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: door opens while driving, increases the risk of injury. Yeah, 623 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: no kidding, I can't say this is only four This 624 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: is all the car companies. At the bottom, it says 625 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: parts aren't available for this parts will be available second 626 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 1: quarter of seventeen. Uh. You know, aside from that, I 627 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: think the Escape is a great car, and I would 628 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: still go out and buy when. I'm just disappointed in 629 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: how they're handling this particular recall, like so many of 630 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: the other recoils. So I would take a hard look 631 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: at it. Glenn. If that's what fits you in your frame, 632 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: then I would consider that before I consider moving the 633 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: seat in the raft. For at least you're dealing with stability. 634 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: Eight five zero nine zero zero run nading the car. 635 00:33:43,080 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: Doctor back right after this, Ron Andanian welcome back on 636 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 1: an Indian car Doctor eight five five six zero nine zero. 637 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: No more calls this, Sarah. Let me just finish this 638 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 1: piece of email. This this this notice. We were talking 639 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: before about the Ford Explore, sorry, the Ford Escape and 640 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 1: this safety recall. So you know, imagine you come home 641 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:30,359 Speaker 1: from our hard day of work. Now that that has 642 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: any bearing on it. Here's the notice Escape. Dear Mr Inanian. 643 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: This notice is sent to you in accordance with the 644 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 1: National Traffic and Motor Vehicle Safety Act, So the federal 645 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 1: government's involved in this, all right? I mean you ever 646 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 1: look at a recall? This one just kind of caught 647 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,240 Speaker 1: my eye. Ford Motor Company has decided that a defect 648 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,959 Speaker 1: which relates to motor vehicle safety exists in your vehicle 649 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 1: with the above shown VIN. We apologize for this situation 650 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,240 Speaker 1: when I assure you, with your assistance, will correct this condition. 651 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 1: Our commitment together with your dealers to provide you with 652 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: the highest level of service and support. What is the 653 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 1: issue you in your vehicle? This is escape. A side 654 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,320 Speaker 1: door latch may break, which may make the door difficult 655 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: to latch. A door that opens while driving increases the 656 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: risk of injury. No kitten parts are not currently available 657 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: to repair or the all vehicles. What should you do? 658 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 1: If your vehicle exhibits symptoms related to side door latching, 659 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 1: contact your dealer and requests a service appointment for diagnosis 660 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 1: and repair. Provide the dealer with the VIN which is 661 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,399 Speaker 1: prevened printed in your name at the beginning of this letter. 662 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 1: Her vehicle does not exhibit these symptoms, for it will 663 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 1: notify you by mail when service parts are available. You 664 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 1: read through the fine print down at the bottom. When 665 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 1: parts are available for this safety recall, you will be 666 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,720 Speaker 1: notified by Ford via mail to schedule a service appointment 667 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: with your dealer to replace your vehicle side door latches. 668 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 1: Parts for sixteen thirty years is the recoil are anticipated 669 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 1: to be available to begin repairing vehicles in the second 670 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 1: quarter of What do you think we're gonna do. We're 671 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 1: gonna drive around with a car that the doors are 672 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 1: gonna fall open for the next six months. That's what's 673 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 1: wrong with this industry. The le's get on the stickboard. 674 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 1: I'm run any of the car doctor. The mechanics aren't expensive, 675 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 1: they're priceless. See it.