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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George nor

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Speaker 1: with you with our special guest, doctor Lauren Cillo, former

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Speaker 1: engineer at a fortune five hundred company, now a professional clairvoyant,

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Speaker 1: healer and teacher. Doctor Cillo uses cutting edge tools and

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Speaker 1: techniques that allow reading energy and possessing the ability to

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Speaker 1: shift or change situations to benefit clients and their loved

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Speaker 1: ones as well. Doctor Lauren Cillo back on Coast to

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Speaker 1: Coast Lauren, Welcome back, Hey George, it's great to be here.

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Speaker 1: I hope you and your family had great holidays so

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Speaker 1: far and many more coming. What a fast year, though,

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Speaker 1: isn't it. Oh my gosh, everything's accelerating. Had a great

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Speaker 1: time with they at Boulder at our b Unbelief taping

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Speaker 1: by the way, that was fun. Oh that was great, George,

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Speaker 1: I really enjoyed it. I love Boulder, great energy, great town.

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Speaker 1: How did you, as a former engineer, get interested in

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Speaker 1: being a clairvoyant in a mystical teacher. Well me, like

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Speaker 1: a lot of your listeners, we have a Monday through

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Speaker 1: Friday job, but then on our days off we're pursuing

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Speaker 1: spiritual mystical topics, and that was me, of course, and

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Speaker 1: I just kind of stumbled onto this psychic institute here

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Speaker 1: in San Diego where I live, and I just took

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Speaker 1: the class on a whim, and it was a six

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Speaker 1: month program. That was the first, the beginning program. And

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Speaker 1: the way things turned out, I started reading professionally about

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Speaker 1: two months into that. Of course, getting laid off as

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Speaker 1: an engineer helped propel me. But that's how I started,

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Speaker 1: just on a whim, and I turned out and I

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Speaker 1: turned it seemed that I was really good at it.

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Speaker 1: And what I mean by that, George, is that the

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Speaker 1: response I got from the person I was reading it

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Speaker 1: seemed that they were getting so much out of it

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Speaker 1: that I mean, you can't turn that down right, to

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Speaker 1: brighten people's days and give them insight into what's going

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Speaker 1: on in their lives, I mean, much better than engineering.

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Speaker 1: As a child, did you have these abilities as well

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Speaker 1: or did you manifest them at that age? That's funny

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Speaker 1: you should ask that, because like during my psychic classes,

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Speaker 1: everyone would be talking about all these experiences they had

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Speaker 1: as children, you know, their dead grandfather came to them

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Speaker 1: things like this. I had nothing, nothing like that. Now

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Speaker 1: looking back, I was an astral projector. That's what I

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Speaker 1: I was just really interested in how the universe worked,

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Speaker 1: and when I stumbled onto this teaching, it really explained

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Speaker 1: understood how the universe worked, then I was interested in

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Speaker 1: changing the universe. Now are you clairvoyant? You would say

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Speaker 1: that right, yes, but everyone is everyone's clairvoyant. The Homo

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Speaker 1: Stapion itself is clairvoyant. So I just was taught with

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Speaker 1: their past lives or reading the dead. There's a step

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Speaker 1: that fit right in with my logical engineering brain. Lauren.

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Speaker 1: There was a fellow by the name of Robert Munroe

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Speaker 1: I think I'm pretty psychically involved in things like that.

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Speaker 1: But in terms of astral projection, that's happened one time.

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Speaker 1: You've studied astral projection as well. Yes, you know. What

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Speaker 1: I mean, is the astral plane heaven and hell? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: be that you're going too high. Is there a difference

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Speaker 1: between being clairvoyant and psychic. I think there are a

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Speaker 1: have to do with which chakra you're using. So of course,

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Speaker 1: that ever happened to you? Oh my gosh, I've heard everything, George,

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