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Speaker 1: Reveale.

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Speaker 2: Look at us now tempted.

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Speaker 3: Jesus?

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Speaker 2: Oh do you want using will be?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 2: It's time to bank. Oh yeah, how about that intro

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Speaker 2: reminding us of the way we were. It's the best

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Speaker 2: damn two hours of your week, coming to you live

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Speaker 2: in direct on a special Thursday, September fifth, twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 2: Labor Day week and today my father's sixty ninth birthday.

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Speaker 2: Shout out, Pops, It's morning combat Brian Campbell, Luke Thomas

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Speaker 2: and your filthy staff infection.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's staff, but it could be. Yeah, nightmare, No, yeah, I.

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Speaker 2: Feel bad for you. I'm making jokes because that's what

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Speaker 2: we do. But you're fighting the good fight, like Kevin

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Speaker 2: Lee against Ferguson right, like Morob potentially right now, like every.

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Speaker 1: Fighter I have. Unlike those guys, I actually tried to

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Speaker 1: seek medical attention, but the US healthcare system has failed

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Speaker 1: me dramatically.

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Speaker 2: So all right, Well we're back where we belong, back

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Speaker 2: in Manhattan Meadow Larks Studios. Where down here, Luke, we

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Speaker 2: get stoned immaculate.

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Speaker 1: You know, you know what's funny about doing the show

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Speaker 1: today at ten am, getting to Manhattan for the so

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Speaker 1: Normally I arrive into Manhattan right around nine to fifty

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Speaker 2: Just in time to shit for half hour, just in

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Speaker 2: time to.

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Speaker 1: Shit for half hour. But I don't have to deal

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Speaker 1: with the morning commute of all the New Yorkers. Well,

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Speaker 1: today I got here at eight fifty. Yeah, eight fifty,

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Speaker 1: and oh I was right in the middle of it.

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Speaker 2: Means you are asked to ask with different nationalities.

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Speaker 1: Let's just say I got off the subway and I

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Speaker 1: nearly set myself on fire after pouring gasoline on me

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Speaker 1: because of how crowded I had to so here. My

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Speaker 1: rule is, I never touched the subway bar. What I

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Speaker 1: do is I kind of I kind of grab it

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Speaker 1: went and then just dip my hand in carbonic acid

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Speaker 1: after it was over. It was so fucking gross.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, like and subscribe to what we do here.

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Speaker 2: I've got I think brighter pastures are ahead for us. Okay,

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Speaker 2: that's all that's all I got for you today, all Right.

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Speaker 1: All right, I'm not gonna say I've.

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Speaker 2: Got a feeling. Okay, you know what I mean that

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Speaker 2: today is going to be a good day because we've

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Speaker 2: got a loaded show.

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Speaker 1: For I took an absolutely enormous dump in the bathroom

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Speaker 1: Joseph A.

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Speaker 2: Banks style.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, because that was a triple flusher. But this

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Speaker 1: was a dog. This was a double, a proper dump.

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Speaker 2: I don't know do I want to be in the

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Speaker 2: thought process of what of like?

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Speaker 1: And you went to the bathroom and I was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to go. And I went to the FURYXPERI.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you got to know about the code for the down.

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Speaker 1: Oh I didn't know about this. Yeah, because first of all,

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Speaker 2: Well, the story behind it is incredible. We can't say

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Speaker 1: So then I went to the one you were supposed

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Speaker 1: to go to absolutely demolished that commode, and I was

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Speaker 2: I don't do that, seeven, some people have no problem

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Speaker 2: just okay, hold on, like like you if you and

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Speaker 2: I were in the same orgy, I'm never gonna make

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Speaker 2: eye contact, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Let me say something, show off hands there in the studio.

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Speaker 1: Who thinks it's weird to be in a stall? Go

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Speaker 2: That's not the real question.

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Speaker 1: You do that, dude, You're a fucking menace to society.

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Speaker 2: No, you're missing that. You're missing the point here.

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Speaker 1: You're all side.

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Speaker 2: The real menace to societies are the people who are

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Speaker 2: willing to go full board shit with grunts while you're

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Speaker 2: respect that if somebody sits next to you, it's because

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Speaker 2: listening to things is just waiting for you to leave.

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Speaker 1: Luke.

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Speaker 2: That's the thing I think if you first, cause then

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Speaker 2: you're standing up because you stand up.

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Speaker 1: Like a gross Put the camera on me, Put the

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Speaker 1: camera on me. Let me explain something to you fucking

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Speaker 1: idiots out there. Nobody wants to hear you play TikTok

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Speaker 1: or Instagram reels on your motherfucking phone. If you do that,

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Speaker 1: you are the barnacle of society. That's what you are.

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Speaker 1: You're an absolute fight. There's serial killers, all right, serial

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Speaker 1: killers people who audibly play TikTok or Instagram reels in

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Speaker 1: worst than the murderers and rapists if you do that.

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Speaker 2: While I don't damn you for the next comment, because

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Speaker 2: your heart is in the right place. Tough talk from

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Speaker 2: a guy who facetimes his family in front of like

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Speaker 2: sixty five people at full volume. You got, you know,

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Speaker 2: come on, you gotta. You got glasshouses here, brother.

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Speaker 1: I don't do it in public. I did it in

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Speaker 1: I admit that, you know, there's a lot to that

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Speaker 1: No? Fuck no, absolutely not. Never, never, dude, I have

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Speaker 1: standards because if you're if you're put one more time,

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Speaker 1: you're on a flight and you're playing your phone audibly,

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Speaker 1: the plane deserves to crash. All right, look at me?

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Speaker 2: Are we making more Building seven jokes? I wait for

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Speaker 2: have you seen this ship? At least? Oh? We got

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Speaker 2: a great show for you today. A really good main

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Speaker 2: event of UFCAPEX is Saturday. Sean Brady versus Gilbert Burns

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Speaker 2: is gonna break that down and look at the latest

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Speaker 2: news cycle involving the greatest fighter of all time, John Jones,

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Speaker 2: Dana White, Turkey Ali, she can so much more, look back.

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Speaker 1: On it, literally every single person.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to get into that, but post brawl with

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Speaker 2: Jake Donovan and Jake proving once again that he's a

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Speaker 2: real one. In that back and forth with Turkey, unfollowed everybody.

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Speaker 1: He was down to zero. He did the old Skip

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Speaker 1: bayless bit zero followers.

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Speaker 2: We'll get into that and so much more. Have you

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Speaker 2: seen the ship? Dms from donks like and subscribe. The

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Speaker 2: future is bright. That's why Luca is wearing them shades.

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Speaker 1: But you can we do have to talk about one

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Speaker 2: Is this the Oasis reunion? Uh, it's not your Turkey's

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Speaker 2: trying to get them, by the way, at the next time.

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Speaker 1: Well he's got one of them, right, But that's a

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Speaker 1: pretty badass move. Okay, go ahead, listen.

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Speaker 2: I'm not Eminem wasn't for me Oasis reunion at at

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Speaker 1: That's Hec's like, you know, the problem with Eminem is

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Speaker 1: he's just not white enough. I need I need hardcore whites.

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Speaker 1: What I was gonna say is, we haven't talked about

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Speaker 1: the fact that we got more to the point, we

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Speaker 1: little bit. Oh nominated for the World MMA Awards. Question

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Speaker 2: So I was thinking about this long.

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Speaker 2: Freddie level long and hard. I definitely don't think we

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Speaker 2: also think Dana White's Contender series winning it was actually

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Speaker 2: a year where they really deserved it, and they've stepped

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Speaker 2: scenes all the pretty do you ever watch show? Just

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Speaker 2: just focusing on the production and the quick move. It's like,

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Speaker 2: to me, it's MMA's answer to Showbox. What showed the

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Speaker 2: reputation Showbox had of just being like straight to the point,

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Speaker 2: no bullshit, here's your box.

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Speaker 1: I do like parts I don't. I'm not saying it's

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Speaker 1: a poorly produced show. I just think the way the

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Speaker 1: But that's a different Okay.

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Speaker 2: Well, the reason why we didn't deserve it in year

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Speaker 2: The death of Showtime wasn't overnight, it was It was

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Speaker 2: had some ups and downs. This year. You could argue

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Speaker 2: twice is worse from a shit show standpoint, Promises kept,

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Speaker 2: we have persevered like a motherfucker. Like when Leonard skinnerd

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Speaker 1: Bob Scott died choking on his own vomit. They went

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Speaker 1: and got another the.

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Speaker 2: Way, a real match, and you could argue that the

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Speaker 2: other guy did elevate the band, right, I mean, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Sammy Hagar's Van Halen right right, So that Brian Johnson.

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Speaker 2: The reference to Sammy Hagar is to say that, unlike

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Speaker 2: respectfully kept them high, but never took him to a

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Speaker 2: next level. I think Long Island Luke jumping in, I

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Speaker 2: agree Brian Johnson may have actually improved. Now it's an argue.

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Speaker 2: It's a long held argument, Bond Scott versus Brian Johnson.

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Speaker 2: But Johnson was so great that he's in that argument.

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Speaker 1: Yeah he is. Okay, I'll just say, uh deserves got

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Speaker 1: nothing to do with it. If you can muster the votes,

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Speaker 1: then that's how you deserve it. But I will say

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Speaker 1: we're a couple of cockroaches, a couple of survivors.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we won't go away.

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Speaker 1: Survivors.

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Speaker 2: Nothing says old school feel MK like opening the show

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Speaker 2: with ten minutes of nonsense. That's my style. That's how

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Speaker 2: I get down to conclude the nonsense. Long Island, Luke

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Speaker 2: no seta. He loves when I pronounced that wrong on

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Speaker 2: the ones and two's Luke Auste rules. Luke last two nights,

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Speaker 2: including last night, he only got three hours of sleep.

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Speaker 2: Pearl Jam at Madison Square Garden, Oh shit, Luke, what

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Speaker 2: do you got for us?

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Speaker 4: It was epic. Night two was a lot better than

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Speaker 4: Night one.

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Speaker 1: But hey, were there are a lot of white people there.

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Speaker 1: I think I saw a few, saw a couple dude

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Speaker 1: lead guitaris.

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Speaker 2: He was saying, Mike MCREDI and I what sixty one?

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Speaker 4: Sixty one years old?

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Speaker 1: Let's do it? Okay.

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Speaker 2: desert ufc Apex another fight and I caught another Apex show.

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Speaker 2: We had Gilbert Burns on when the fight was first announced.

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Speaker 5: I'm still there because even if he wins, Jack Della

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's got a bad chin In fact,

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Speaker 1: This is to me, like for as many questions as

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Speaker 2: But he took a gamble and lost. But look specifically

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Speaker 1: He got reversed when he went to suck out the

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Speaker 2: And it's a big move from Dala Medelana to answer

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Speaker 2: What are your thoughts.

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Speaker 1: I am not sure if we're going to get a

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Speaker 2: I don't mean to stereotype by region or whatever, but

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Speaker 1: I think, to an extent you can make that argument.

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Speaker 1: He takes I think, in general, really good care of

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Speaker 2: And and it messes with your compostent challenges.

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Speaker 1: Your composer Radia. I do think Brady is going to

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Speaker 1: part is so much in doubt. Remember Gilbert used to

439
00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,360
Speaker 1: fight at one fifty five. You couldn't find a way.

440
00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,399
Speaker 2: Most people forget because he's covered in so many tats.

441
00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:29,240
Speaker 2: Brady's still like a.

442
00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,320
Speaker 1: Brickshit fucking huge. Yes, he's huge. So I do think

443
00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:33,960
Speaker 1: he's going to be the stronger guy of the two.

444
00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:38,199
Speaker 1: It's interesting to me, what does Gilbert uh, because he

445
00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:39,520
Speaker 1: was going for a lot of he has a big

446
00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,840
Speaker 1: kicking game, which I don't think he's going to want

447
00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,600
Speaker 1: to do as much against Brady because Brady will catch it.

448
00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,000
Speaker 2: And then when the Salon was having made his corner

449
00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:48,800
Speaker 2: was telling him in that fight, do not kick him,

450
00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:49,720
Speaker 2: do not attempt that.

451
00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,600
Speaker 1: And he just you know, didn't really listen all that much.

452
00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,160
Speaker 1: But I think I think Burns probably will at least more.

453
00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,199
Speaker 1: But that means he has to get closer to Brady

454
00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,359
Speaker 1: in order to get to to get his hands going,

455
00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,080
Speaker 1: which means the takedown is going to be a little

456
00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,919
Speaker 1: more available credits of bal muhamma, dude ballal kind of

457
00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,680
Speaker 1: having this sort of hunched over stand I'm here, I'm

458
00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,840
Speaker 1: in the wrong spot, kind of having this hunched over

459
00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,160
Speaker 1: stance so that he could get his hips behind him

460
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Speaker 1: and down block. Brady could never really get all that

461
00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,399
Speaker 1: close with some of those takedowns. Can Gilbert do that

462
00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,720
Speaker 1: over the course of three, four, potentially five rounds. This

463
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Speaker 1: is what I mean. This is a really intriguing case.

464
00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,280
Speaker 2: It's a chess match that's going to be high speed,

465
00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,520
Speaker 2: high level, high high level adjustments. Mentally, it's gonna be

466
00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:31,800
Speaker 2: a great fight. The Brady sort of. I don't say

467
00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,240
Speaker 2: black cloud or bad. I mean there's still something lingering

468
00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,159
Speaker 2: from that ball fight. Even though he bounced back perfectly

469
00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,159
Speaker 2: against Gasolom and dominated. I think there's still questions of

470
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Speaker 2: whether can he win at this level when the fight

471
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Speaker 2: isn't contested on his own terms. But for whatever it's worth,

472
00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,520
Speaker 2: the idea that he got fraud checked or whatever against

473
00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,359
Speaker 2: Ballal keeps coming up online, and Brady went to media

474
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Speaker 2: Day yesterday and took it and called these Keyward warriors

475
00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,040
Speaker 2: back out right in front of everyone. Let's hear it.

476
00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:57,960
Speaker 2: Everybody was like, oh, he's a fraud he got.

477
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Speaker 6: From Yeah, I don't know, I don't understand the fraud

478
00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,080
Speaker 6: check thing, Like I don't like first of all, Twitter

479
00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:04,360
Speaker 6: fucking sucks.

480
00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,000
Speaker 2: Well, it's a cesspool full.

481
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Speaker 6: Of miserable, miserable people. It's insane, like and I'm not

482
00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,840
Speaker 6: like like, but like these people on there are nuts,

483
00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:15,840
Speaker 6: like the shit that you never say anything that these

484
00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,560
Speaker 6: guys say, like to your face, Like there's some fucking

485
00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:23,480
Speaker 6: dork in their mom's basement just eating cheetos. But it's

486
00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,960
Speaker 6: how like I got fraud checked, Joey got fraud checked.

487
00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,359
Speaker 6: Someone a bunch of other guys got like, how are

488
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Speaker 6: you of, Like, what's getting frall checked by a fighter

489
00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,080
Speaker 6: who's in the top ten, top fifteen. I just don't

490
00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,920
Speaker 6: understand it, so like that's frustrating to see because it's

491
00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,040
Speaker 6: never other fighters who are saying and if it is,

492
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Speaker 6: then like it's very it's far. It's many guys don't

493
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Speaker 6: do that, you know. But yeah, I don't understand the

494
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Speaker 6: fraud check thing. But yeah, I guess I got fraud

495
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Speaker 6: checked by the UFC champion.

496
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Speaker 1: Thanks Bro.

497
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Speaker 2: He kind of nailed parts of that, right, Yeah, I

498
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Speaker 2: think parts of it.

499
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Speaker 1: He nailed a lot of it. I mean, there is

500
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Speaker 1: such a thing as a fraud check where you get

501
00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,640
Speaker 1: an overhyped prospect that finally goes up against some kind

502
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,840
Speaker 1: of known quantity, sometimes that even celebrated one and gets

503
00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 1: run over. You would be able to get closer with

504
00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,520
Speaker 1: the who's the chi wee weeest guy what's his name? Again?

505
00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 1: I wouldn't call it fraud check because he's still so young,

506
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 1: but it's something a little bit more like that. If

507
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:21,200
Speaker 1: you lose to the guy in a squasi ish number

508
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,200
Speaker 1: one contender fight, who then was it one fight later

509
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,439
Speaker 1: whatever it was or two fights later goes on to

510
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,760
Speaker 1: become a fucking champion in the weight class. That's less

511
00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,399
Speaker 1: a fraud check and more maybe like a little bit

512
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Speaker 1: of a return to earth. That's okay, there was a

513
00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,399
Speaker 1: little bit of a decline, but it's you're not a

514
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 1: fraud if you're turned five gop seven in the world.

515
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Speaker 2: First of all, it's angry, lazy, basement Twitter guys and

516
00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,200
Speaker 2: anyone can get caught up in that. But I think

517
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:48,680
Speaker 2: the fact that he can canbust it in a way.

518
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 2: I mean again, he got stopped by the guy who

519
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,120
Speaker 2: went on to become champion, no fault, But I think

520
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 2: what fuels the haters is the fact that he seemed

521
00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 2: to fall apart once those punches.

522
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Speaker 1: I have a feeling I went back on a night

523
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,080
Speaker 1: I was trying to figure out, like, what was the

524
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 1: problem against ballall, and you can pick up tactical stuff

525
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,960
Speaker 1: about shot selection and everything else, the issue for me

526
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 1: was that he could not keep Like. One of the

527
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 1: biggest things is pressure is so important in MMA because

528
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 1: so many guys cannot fight going backwards or laterally. It's

529
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,120
Speaker 1: just a big problem Whilst guys are not very good

530
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:24,919
Speaker 1: at it, and so you're watching Ballall pressure Brady, and

531
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 1: Brady's response he was landing on him like there's a

532
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 1: hey landed a couple of good left hooks. There were

533
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,679
Speaker 1: some body kicks that he landed. He came this close

534
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 1: to like taking Ballall's head off with a front kick,

535
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 1: you remember, they he just missed. But in general, he

536
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:42,920
Speaker 1: couldn't find anything to really deter or change Balall's game plan.

537
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,120
Speaker 1: Willall was kind of able to stay in his face

538
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 1: a little bit, and I was watching how he threw.

539
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,680
Speaker 1: He kind of throws like one or two punch combinations

540
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 1: or like one big strike and then he resets. I

541
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,920
Speaker 1: would like to see Brady physically commit to striking a

542
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 1: little bit harder to make these guys deterred from trying

543
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 1: to get close to.

544
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Speaker 2: Him too, Because I think what you're saying is fueling

545
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,160
Speaker 2: the opinion that can he you know, or the question

546
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 2: can he be the top guy when his A game

547
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 2: isn't dominant? Right, And there's been a lot of fighters

548
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,880
Speaker 2: like that, you know, one it's going to script, it's perfect.

549
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 2: Can he make those adjustments? That's what he's gonna have

550
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 2: to prove in this fight because it's five rounds, it

551
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 2: gets against a guy that's so durable despite coming off

552
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 2: of the stoppage, a brutal stoppage. But I just don't

553
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 2: want to see Gilbert get old in the championship rounds.

554
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 2: And this will be the telltale, right because you know

555
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:30,680
Speaker 2: Brady's going to bring the fight with a big motor.

556
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 2: There's going to be a lot of grappling. I want

557
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 2: to see Gilbert. Gilbert will show us if he's old

558
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 2: what he does in rounds four and five. That's right,

559
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 2: if it gets there ultimately full common opponent time. Does

560
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 2: it matter at all that they both grappled Craig Jones

561
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:46,239
Speaker 2: in a big showcase and Brady won a decision and

562
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:47,400
Speaker 2: Burns got submitted?

563
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 1: Not necessarily because in the rule set that Brady competed

564
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 1: against Jones, I think they had outlawed heel hooks and

565
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 1: maybe footlocks of any kind. But I know for a

566
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 1: fact they couldn't do he'll hooks. You know, your taking

567
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 1: away a very significant weapon to make that contest more equal.

568
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 2: So does Brady tap Gabby?

569
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 1: I'm sure, I'm I wouldn't doubt it.

570
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 2: How about submission?

571
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 1: She had both of her nipples pears, I don't you

572
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 1: know that's that's very aggressive. That's very aggressive a lot,

573
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,400
Speaker 1: that's a lot. But either way, I would I if

574
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 1: you're asking whose ground game is better, certainly in puer

575
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 1: jiu jitsu, Gilbert has done vastly better. If you're talking

576
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: about MMA and who is you know, sort of physically

577
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 1: suited for the weight class, you might give a slight

578
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,120
Speaker 1: lean to, like who's got the best version of a game?

579
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,719
Speaker 1: The top game of Brady might be the best. But

580
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,919
Speaker 1: I can't over understate this or underrate this. Burns' ability

581
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,120
Speaker 1: to wrestle up, Burns' ability to find the back, Burns'

582
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:54,679
Speaker 1: ability to create and scramble, I think is superb. I

583
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 1: do think he would have a hard time folding Brady

584
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 1: down without taking the back, So that's kind of an

585
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:01,360
Speaker 1: interesting thing.

586
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 2: He Bratty went to full mount four times against Gasolm,

587
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 2: who's certainly not awful on the ground.

588
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,679
Speaker 1: He's not Gilbert Burns right, but not awful.

589
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 2: Went to full mountain, was just randing down on it.

590
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 1: No, he's very good, and he also he would give

591
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:17,479
Speaker 1: up the back when you would see Gastolom sit up,

592
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 1: you take the far side hook out, put the near

593
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 1: side hook in, and then turk it and leg ride

594
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 1: it so he couldn't move and destabilize him like things

595
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: like that. He's very even Mike. We had Michael Kiessa,

596
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,919
Speaker 1: remember we did room servers divers with him and he

597
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 1: was like he was like dude, Sean Brady's grip felt

598
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 1: like being held by a gorilla, Like he couldn't believe

599
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 1: how strong.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So if Sean puts together the striking, this is interesting.

601
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 2: I think what is going to make this fight extra

602
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,360
Speaker 2: exciting the length of it is that if there's one

603
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,880
Speaker 2: thing that Gilbert shown with age, I think his output

604
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 2: is down, which is natural, but like he showed against

605
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 2: Jack Dla, he doesn't need to throw as much if

606
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 2: what he's throwing is well timed and powerful. To remember

607
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 2: that step in elbow that he did, it was like

608
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,439
Speaker 2: a short right hook instead it was a lead elbow.

609
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 2: He lands big flush shots like that. He may he

610
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 2: may wobble or drop Brady. It may turn the fight

611
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 2: around instantly. So I really feel like this this feels

612
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,239
Speaker 2: like a pick them. Yet the odds have Brady as

613
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 2: the favorite, but I see just as many people going

614
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 2: Brady's wrestling is better. And that's the difference. As there

615
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 2: are people that are going, you're giving me plus money

616
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,439
Speaker 2: on Gilbert right now after what he did to mad

617
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 2: Dealana before the stoppage. Like, I don't know what the

618
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 2: DraftKings odds.

619
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Speaker 4: Let's say that I got Gilbert on DraftKings plus one

620
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 4: sixty four.

621
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Speaker 1: That you're taking Gilbert, yeah, just because he's a.

622
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Speaker 2: Dog main card Mintic go on Live Saturday. Yes, sir,

623
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Speaker 2: it's the best not named MK.

624
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 1: I think you know?

625
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 2: Is Gaff going to be ripping bongh? It's live? Of

626
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 2: course it's worth the price of admission, right there, Luke,

627
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 2: do you have a pick here? Are you? Are you

628
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 2: feeling a direction? I love what this does. I love

629
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 2: what the winner is gonna get. The loser a gonna

630
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 2: take a step back, There's no question about that, A

631
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 2: pretty big step back.

632
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 1: Right. If it's Brady, it's recoverable. If it's Gilbert, it's not.

633
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: That's a good point.

634
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 2: That's a good point.

635
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,360
Speaker 1: So that's an interesting one. I mean, here the thing

636
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 1: Gilbert has proven more and has proven to be more

637
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 1: well rounded. But at age thirty eight, I simply don't

638
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: know what's left. And I'm saying that I don't know.

639
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll have to see. I'd probably slightly lean

640
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 1: Brady as well, But it's tough.

641
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 2: We can we just say this is all that we

642
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 2: cannot count out Gilbert Burns.

643
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: He'm not counting him out. He may have a slight

644
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 1: slight lean Brady slightlyan.

645
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 2: These guys just still find new ways to resurrect.

646
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: Dude, if Gilbert ended up like punishing Brady on the

647
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: feet a little bit, taking his back and choking him out,

648
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: I mean that would be impressive. But would you be shocked? No,

649
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: why would you be shocked. He's been doing this shit

650
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 1: to guys for a long versions of that for a

651
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,719
Speaker 1: long time. And again, I want to say it one

652
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: more time, of all the differences between their games, the

653
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: vast experience that Gilbert Burns has against every kind of

654
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: opponent that is available to him, he is just much

655
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 1: more battle tested, much more.

656
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 2: Battle indeed, indeed, can't wait for this one, Luke, do

657
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 2: you have how far does the winner make a leap? Like?

658
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 2: What are we talking about contention wise here?

659
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,479
Speaker 1: I have not seen the rankings some a little six

660
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 1: and eight, Yeah, probably top five ish something like that.

661
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: It depends on whose who else is in the top five?

662
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,479
Speaker 2: I mean they're still keeping Colby there they're still keeping Camara.

663
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 2: How the shot looks like it looks like shaf cotts next,

664
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 2: And I think, uh, who would Usman fight? Uh Jamaia

665
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 2: who was just talking about fighting news talking about which's

666
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 2: which I have no interest in. Yeah, I think you

667
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 2: gotta do Shafcott next. So Usban's gonna need a big fight.

668
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 2: Dustin Poria just just kao the idea of Colby, for

669
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 2: MSG said he's not gonna help Colby make money. So

670
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 2: that's good because I don't. I don't love that fight.

671
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: No, I don't like that fight much either, but.

672
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 2: That's not even in that division. That's well, it's in

673
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 2: that division, but it's not like a contention fight. Yeah,

674
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 2: the winner is going to take a big leap that

675
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 2: we'll see. I mean, Jack Dela Madeleine has a one

676
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 2: up because he beat Gilbert. What about Jack Dell against Camora.

677
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: Damn, that's interesting. I think I think JDM wins that

678
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: one though. So I went over the break, I did

679
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: a tape study on like how the hell did Ballag

680
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: get those takedowns when kamorw couldn't. And I went back

681
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 1: and I watched the third fight between Kamorrow and Leon dude,

682
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: Camorrow's physicality is noticeably dropped off, noticeably dropped hum And

683
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: part of the reason Balal did so well was because

684
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: he was actually able to get a low explosive shot

685
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: into Leon for the takedown, and Kamorrow just kind of

686
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 1: falls into it because he just cannot explode into position.

687
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: And I'm like, Dudelta is not the wrestler that Kamorrow is,

688
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 1: but he is going to be in a much better

689
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: athletic state.

690
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 2: Will we remember Tomorrow as an as a true like

691
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 2: he'll be a probably like a Hall of Famer and

692
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 2: all that he was the pound for pound king at

693
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 2: the streak he had was incredible, But what we consider

694
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 2: him an up not not upper room. I usually thin

695
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 2: there's about five guys in there, but like an upper

696
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 2: tier top ten not top ten.

697
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: I mean he's he's probably the second best walter weight

698
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: of all time.

699
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 2: But he he deserves, he deserves flowers and royalty for

700
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 2: what accomplished.

701
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: Sure the difference, there's many differences between GSP and Kamorrow.

702
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: One of them is just as a popular attraction. GSP

703
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: was massively bigger than Kamaru. Their resumes are actually pretty comparable.

704
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: I mean they're not totally the same, but they're pretty comparable.

705
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: But the level of star power that GSP had was

706
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: so much bigger than what kamarw ever had. I'm not

707
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: trying to not Kamorrow like he did some great things.

708
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 2: He wasn't in the Black Panther sequel though, just one

709
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 2: of them.

710
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: He was in Captain America. Which one Winter Soldier?

711
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 4: You're asking the wrong guy.

712
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: No, he was in it. Look up which one he

713
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: was play played ball? He was in one of them ships.

714
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: So he actually was in the Marvel movies. How about

715
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: that ship?

716
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 2: Take that ship quickly, Luke on this undercard, dude, I'm

717
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 2: into the colemane Jessica Androge against a streaking Natalia Silva,

718
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 2: who has looked good from the standpoint of volume in striking.

719
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 2: I do question whether her lack of fight finishing power

720
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 2: uh will hold her back at the elite level. This

721
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 2: seems to be that perfect test to find out what

722
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 2: do you make of this.

723
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: Bit of a volume striker? And this one obviously gonna

724
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: tell you, Sylvia, I don't know if you put the

725
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: the thing and she lost her sister.

726
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 2: I did see that.

727
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: Seven or so months ago, and it has derailed her

728
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: so again we always go back to the Brett Favre

729
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: gang when his dad died and he wasn't stealing from

730
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: people were using well for fraud. Sure, does it elevate

731
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: you or not? Does it? Does tragedy create a.

732
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 2: Fire for more or your mileage may vary?

733
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: Your mileage may vary, by.

734
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 2: The way, Andrage talking about the potential of a women's

735
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 2: BMF fight, and she said publicly this week that Joanna

736
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 2: is willing to come out of return, which week already

737
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 2: knew you want to set it, but specifically, yo, Wanna

738
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 2: is willing to come out of retirement for a non

739
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,479
Speaker 2: draw dreamatch for the female BMF. Does that do anything

740
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 2: to you?

741
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: Absolutely nothing?

742
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 2: Okay take out absolutely if you said it doesn't do

743
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 2: much for me, BC.

744
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: Don't have any interest, zero, nothing, none. If can you

745
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: bring a voice to reason after that society idea a

746
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: little bit comical if I could be completely candid.

747
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 2: That what at the lack of meaning for the belt

748
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 2: if this matchup happens, or just like why waste your time.

749
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: Of all the fights that you could make it in

750
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: women's MMA, Like it's not some like terrible thing, but

751
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: it's trying.

752
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 2: To identify savages to put together in an all auction

753
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 2: fight for fun.

754
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: But I don't know if you'll want to. At one time,

755
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: certainly was one. Is she still I really don't know that.

756
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 4: I don't think you need to put the BMF title

757
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 4: on the line, but I like the fight.

758
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, they fight only matters if the BMF title

759
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 2: is on the line in a lot of ways.

760
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: I want to say it only matters, but it matters

761
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: much more if you do.

762
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to see if Silva can make that

763
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 2: step forward. If she can't, this is the wrong fight

764
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 2: for her because Androge still brings that you.

765
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: Know, who should be in a BMF fight, Plang Tong.

766
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: That's why I want to see in them.

767
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 2: So I've been told that I got it wrong, and

768
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 2: they got it wrong on the broadcast. It's song song

769
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 2: song weangg song yes spelled one, so the C is

770
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 2: actually kind of like es pronunciation yes wang song. They

771
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 2: were sanging tong on the broadcast, and then I was

772
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 2: told that I was saying it wrong.

773
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: I have no fucking idea how it's pronounced, but I

774
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: know she's fucking awesome. Yeah, we should give her fights

775
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: like that.

776
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 2: Or just get her in line for the title, like

777
00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 2: start grooming her, no aggressively putting her Alex Perreira things said,

778
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 2: you're no other fights. We don't want to talk hold on.

779
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: There actually are a couple that I want to get

780
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: to very quickly if we can. Matt schnell is back

781
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: against Cody Dirden. I believe Oh no, that one may

782
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: have been scrapped. But the one that was, well, that's happening.

783
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: He was supposed to fight collst that but he is

784
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: fighting dirty good Dirdan. Okay, very good. There was one

785
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: other one on this that I wanted to note. Actually, no,

786
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: I take that back.

787
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 2: I don't think that they're ship back. You want to

788
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 2: transition to the second topic.

789
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: Trevor Peak is fighting, oh, which should be dunk dude.

790
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 2: He throws helicopters when he gets tired and just squares up.

791
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 2: It's great.

792
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 1: You're not going to get the most technical fight, but

793
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: you're not probably not going to get a boring one.

794
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:37,719
Speaker 2: That guy's got some dog in him.

795
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: I like that. He does, absolutely has some dog in him.

796
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 2: Yes, let's go into the second topic here. Can I

797
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 2: take us in? Do you want to take it? You

798
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 2: mentioned poetson you did I heard you. Hey, how about

799
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 2: Alex Perreira. The idea of him cutting to one eighty

800
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 2: five one more time, as he says, is not fiction

801
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 2: and he wants to make it a fact. He went

802
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 2: on Instagram again this week to push for the cause.

803
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 2: Let's throw it that quickly, the idea of forget heavyweight

804
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 2: for the moment or light heavyweight. Says, I'm focused on

805
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 2: my next fight and I'm going prepared, but you never

806
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 2: know what can happen, so regardless of the result, I

807
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 2: want to go down one more time to middleweight for

808
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 2: the belt. Hey, drickis bring your will to fight me

809
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 2: so you can prove that you are better than me

810
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 2: with your public statement. It is easy to make this happen. Chauma, bitches,

811
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 2: I added the bitches.

812
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: Shama it well, however, you know again, I don't know.

813
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,439
Speaker 2: I think it's up to the discretion of the user

814
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 2: in this case, since the word has no meaning like

815
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 2: cheweewiz gewee weez uh. This is interesting. Dana White, by

816
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 2: the way, who would be normally the guy that sort

817
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 2: of cock blocked this if it's not in the business

818
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 2: interest of the UFC I E. When Pereira was talking

819
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 2: about moving up and we're talking about what about John

820
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 2: Jones against Pulleton for the heavyweight title? Sorry, Aspital, you

821
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 2: got to sit this one out again, And Dana said, no,

822
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 2: that's not in our plans. Pereira has a lot to

823
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 2: do at light heavyweight. Here's Dana though Tuesday night after

824
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 2: the Contender series, seemingly in now on this idea.

825
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 7: Let's listen to him disagree. My ta on him is

826
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 7: he's fucking nasty. That's my take on him. He wants

827
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,879
Speaker 7: to move up, he wants to move down, he wants

828
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 7: to go every That's that's why people love him. Those

829
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 7: are the type of fighters that people love. You know,

830
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 7: Peyer wants to fight everybody.

831
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 4: I love it.

832
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 8: So what do you do with a guy like that?

833
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 8: When you have a guy like that and Drickis, Hey,

834
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 8: look at the run. Drickis is on right and he's

835
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 8: kicked ass and you know one, two and three. I

836
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 8: think he's beating the rankings and everything. So you promise

837
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 8: to fight to Strickland if Dricis comes out of that?

838
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,760
Speaker 8: Would you grant Alex's wish assuming he beats Khaloo.

839
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 7: I don't know the thing that's great about it is,

840
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 7: first of all, I said a minute ago. It's why

841
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 7: everybody loves him and he's great, but it also gives

842
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 7: us a ton of options that as we're in matchmaking,

843
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 7: should we do this, should we do that? Shouldn't we

844
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 7: do this? Shouldn't we do that? I don't know's it's

845
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 7: a good problem to have with a guy like him.

846
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 2: I like the Lumberjack nineties throwback shirt from Dan. It

847
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 2: looks like he's the basist and collective soul or something.

848
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 2: I come into that. So Luke Ioli, who's voice you

849
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 2: heard there? Kevin Iley, who's got an app? He wrote

850
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 2: a piece that basically said, love the ambition Poeton. But

851
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,959
Speaker 2: if you decide to cut your body down at thirty seven,

852
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 2: you're probably never going to do the opposite and move

853
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 2: back up and fight for the heavyweight title. That there's

854
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 2: windows and maybe this slows down or derails that. What

855
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 2: is your take? Look, he's thirty seven years old. He

856
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 2: really could get any huge fight across three weight divisions.

857
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 2: Is it worth it in his career arc and for

858
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,439
Speaker 2: the company to potentially make this show down.

859
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 1: I want to be clear, I have a great degree

860
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 1: of interest in seeing DDP fight Alex Padeta. I'm not

861
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: saying I have a great degree of interest in necessarily

862
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 1: seeing it right now, although I wouldn't hate it if

863
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: they made it. I mean, for example, like would I

864
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: rather see Poeton DDP or Poeton Khalil roundtree. I think

865
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: Poton Khlilrountry will be a lot of fun. I don't

866
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 1: hate that fight, but I would rather see him fight DDP.

867
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: But it doesn't have to be made now. It's kind

868
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: of a luxury fight, right. It's kind of one of

869
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: those things where you could pull that lever if you

870
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 1: needed to, But I think it's a little premature war

871
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 1: to do it at all. Is the first thing I'm

872
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: going to say. You do have some unresolved issues with

873
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,720
Speaker 1: on Calive, and both Poetson and on Calive are fighting

874
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: in the same month. You need to see how that

875
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: plays out. If he loses or looks really lackluster or

876
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: just doesn't have any kind of mandate for more afterwards,

877
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 1: then we can kind of revisit it simultaneously. At one five, Dude,

878
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: there's finally some really interesting stuff happening at middleweight.

879
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 2: But they don't they don't need Poeton. You could say

880
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 2: they don't need him.

881
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: Again, would it be bad it would certainly not be bad.

882
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: But you've got this collision course between Robert Whittaker and

883
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 1: hamsat chimaiav totally unresolved. Sean Strickland has unfinished business, and

884
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: of course there was an announced announcement yesterday Anthony Hernandez

885
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: is gonna be in the main event and upcoming UFC.

886
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 2: That is October nineteenth. Who's his opponent?

887
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: I forget you know that.

888
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 2: Streaking?

889
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: That's streaking and so dude, It's like there's a lot

890
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: of stuff happening with deserving rising contenders or in the

891
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: case of Sean Strickland, former champions who are still hanging around,

892
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: and I think that some of that stuff needs to

893
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: be resolved. Vulcan didn't go up to fight Islam until

894
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: he didn't completely clean out further waight, but he had

895
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: done a shitload at that point. It just dispatched Gerio Rodriguez.

896
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: We thought, who can even do anything to this guy?

897
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: Let's go see what he can do up a weight class.

898
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 1: This is obviously a little bit of a different dynamic.

899
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: I'm just saying he had earned a mandate to try

900
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: for more at a time when certainly the divisions kind

901
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: of made it open right, I don't feel like any

902
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: of those factors are in place at the moment.

903
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 2: I don't disagree with that. By the way, the Vulcan

904
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 2: del Bronx rumors that are going around on Twitter, I

905
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 2: don't know the truth or reality to them. That excitement

906
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 2: that gets me happy in the happy spot, I mean

907
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 2: it just wow. Here's my point on this. If I'm

908
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 2: the promoter, if I'm Dana White, if I'm Team Poloton,

909
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 2: to be fair, while I respect that he's always willing

910
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 2: to fight anybody at any time. He keeps such a

911
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 2: busy schedule. He's always there when the UFC calls to

912
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 2: bail them out at three hundred or I mean, he

913
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 2: could be headlining the sphere soon. Look, if somebody gets

914
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 2: a cold, you never know. Like he's that guy, he's

915
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 2: willing to do it. But if you are thirty seven

916
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 2: and you have already almost overnight stumbled into one of

917
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 2: the greatest resumes in MME history, which is true, after

918
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 2: becoming a two division Hall of Famer in Glory Kickboxing

919
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 2: and having beaten out of Sonya twice, he walks into

920
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 2: the UFC in record time and becomes a two division champion,

921
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 2: you have a window to do the impossible, or at

922
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 2: least attempt it, which is to become the first major

923
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 2: promotion three division champion, obviously never happened in UFC history.

924
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,720
Speaker 2: I just would think, even with the bottlenecke at heavyweight,

925
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 2: in the questions about when John Stipe, will it happen?

926
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 2: Will John hang around aspinall all that, no matter who

927
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 2: is your heavyweight champion, shouldn't Dana and Pereira's main want

928
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 2: be to create a moment of history, Because tell me,

929
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 2: if I'm putting too much romanticism on here, should po

930
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 2: Aton do that? You could stand up and pull a

931
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 2: Floyd Mayweather and print TV hats and say, I don't

932
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 2: care who your favorite fighter is, whether it's John Jones,

933
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 2: you know anybody, I'm the fucking greatest of all time.

934
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 2: I'm the first three division UFC champion. Obviously it's a

935
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 2: big hill to climb to even do that. But if

936
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 2: you have the opportunity to do that in your career

937
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 2: and you're thirty seven, the windows closing, I just think

938
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 2: promoter and fighter should get in the same room and

939
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 2: be like, let's make this happen in a stadium. Let's

940
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 2: make this the biggest story in mma, tell me where

941
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 2: I'm doing too much pro wrestling carnival bark.

942
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 1: I don't think you are. I mean it's kind of funny,

943
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: like I talking about this Sphere show with fans online.

944
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: There is so much negativity around the Spear Show, which

945
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: part of which I completely understand. The ticket prices are high,

946
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: the card quality, I think some of that is fair,

947
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: some of that is not so fair. The branding is

948
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 1: a little bit weird. But the UFC is finally going

949
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: into pageantry. They're finally going into spectacle, and if you

950
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: lived through the heyday of the Pride Fighting Championships, this

951
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: is like so welcome. Don't know whether to pull it off,

952
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: but I'm glad that the attempt is there. To the

953
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: point that you raise about Poeton, Listen, we should not

954
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: lose sight of the fact that even if Poton goes

955
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: down or DDP go having two champions fight each other

956
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: in the UFC is still special. It is still something

957
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: that is not typical, and we should always be celebratory

958
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 1: of that fact. But I'm with you. I don't think

959
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: John Jones is gonna fight pass steep Amiochich unless he

960
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: loses to steep A, which case he'll kind of have

961
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: to figure out something, but at that point the fight

962
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,280
Speaker 1: has been ruined anyway. I think he's done after November,

963
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: which means the window to get a Tom Aspinall fight.

964
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: And I would favor Tom to beat Poeton, of course,

965
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:35,439
Speaker 1: but but to do something different, big, new, exciting makes

966
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: you think a little bit terrifying in certain ways. I

967
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: think the UFC should absolutely be leaning more into that.

968
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 1: And by the way, if you lose to Tom Aspenall,

969
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: he can easily go back to two A five and

970
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: there's really no problem there at all. So if there's

971
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: a division you can kind of put to the side.

972
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 1: To me, it's not middleweight right now. It is two

973
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: a five on Calive being a semi exception to that.

974
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: Let's see how it plays out. I would much rather

975
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: see him go up to fight Aspinall then go down

976
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 1: to fight DDP.

977
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 2: If I'm the UFC, and I know there's other concerns,

978
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 2: the lawsuit financially being one of them, right, they may

979
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 2: have to pay out more or what have you. I'm

980
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 2: stacking bills and I'm sitting John Jones down and I'm saying, John,

981
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 2: here's what the vault looks like after Stepe you're hanging

982
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 2: out for two more. You're giving us aspinall and you're

983
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 2: giving us poton and we will pay you for it.

984
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 2: But Luke, I start I start making that case. Now,

985
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 2: I start building those plans. Now, isn't that what That's

986
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 2: what UFC used to do, right, That's what they still

987
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 2: do in certain cases. I mean they stopped everything and

988
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 2: made McGregor versus versus Habib at the moment that it

989
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 2: could be the biggest fight in the promotion in the

990
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 2: sports history, and it and it hit in a big way,

991
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 2: and it had other reasons to hit, from McGregor throwing

992
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 2: the dolly to the idea that it's the former champion

993
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 2: who never lost it against the current number one fighter

994
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 2: in the world. But there's potential to make like super fights,

995
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 2: generational fights here. So it's an interesting topic. Let's get

996
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 2: ddp's take. Here's his tweet about it. He's would welcome it.

997
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 1: He says that Alex Prairie, casual homophobe, you and.

998
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 2: You boyfriend Strickland MMA can have a domestic dispute on

999
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 2: who gets slept first, even after a few pockets here

1000
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 2: in this tweet, Jesus, but you know, you know he'd

1001
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 2: be down for it.

1002
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:14,439
Speaker 1: The one thing about DP he wants, oh, I don't

1003
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: have any doubt he would.

1004
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 2: He wants to smoke.

1005
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: He would go up to two o five. He would

1006
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 1: welcome at one eighty five. But also, just for Pooton's sake,

1007
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 1: DDP is a goddamn tank. I would rather see that

1008
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 1: at two o five as well. Like if you have

1009
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: to rank the options, me poetson it. Heavyweight is number one,

1010
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 1: two DDP up at two oh five, three Poeton at

1011
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 1: one eighty five. That's my power.

1012
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 2: I can't lou that's Parker Lewis.

1013
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: Baby. You can't lose in any of those three. But

1014
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 1: if I what's your ranking? Aust rules Luke about the same,

1015
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: I agree with you.

1016
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 4: I'd rather see DDP go up.

1017
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:46,240
Speaker 1: Okay.

1018
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 2: By the way, don't confuse Long Island Luke with the

1019
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 2: third Luke from Malca, Australian Luke who was from Australia

1020
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 2: now known and by the.

1021
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:58,240
Speaker 4: Way, Australian Luke works for the UFC. Now are you serious?

1022
00:43:58,400 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1023
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 2: What's his last name? Can we say that in the air?

1024
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, Luke Sullivan, shout out Luke Slan Luke SLIV.

1025
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: What does he do for them.

1026
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,240
Speaker 4: He's an associate producer.

1027
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 2: I think.

1028
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 1: I never thought anyone from Malka was going anywhere.

1029
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 2: Oh stop that, let's just get out of here. It's

1030
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 2: not like all those guys are unemployed and showing up

1031
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 2: on the main Guard Minute podcast right now, right, I.

1032
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: Mean you know, yeah here, you know all right, the

1033
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: pipeline from Malca to the unemployment line is direct and noted.

1034
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 2: Let's slide into category number three here. It's involving the

1035
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 2: greatest fighter of all time, maybe even your pound for

1036
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 2: pound king, depending on what's thrown you sit on. I'm

1037
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 2: talking about John Jones. I'm talking about Tuesday's Dana White

1038
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 2: Contender series. Look, there's an argument to be made here

1039
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 2: that data White the last few weeks is like either

1040
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 2: softening or getting media friendly more, or maybe just playing

1041
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 2: into his own absurdity. Here was the commercial that was

1042
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 2: run Tuesday, not to announce John Versustipe. That fight is

1043
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 2: still not finalized, although it's obviously their hope and intention.

1044
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,240
Speaker 2: Dana White put out of John Jones is the greatest

1045
00:44:58,280 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 2: ever commercial. Here's what it looked like.

1046
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: Did you see history. It's twenty three years old.

1047
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:09,280
Speaker 2: Jones that ladies and gentlemen is the future. The most

1048
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 2: championship wins in the history of this organization, avoided no One,

1049
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 2: dominated everyone, the most unique talent, and the history is sportant.

1050
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,240
Speaker 2: We kind of deny the greatness was taken out. Champion

1051
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 2: enough to champion legend after legend. John Jones is not willing.

1052
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: To lose the greatest of all times. I'm gonna taste.

1053
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 2: When you talk about who's the baddest dude in the world.

1054
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 7: If we're two guys in a room and John Jones

1055
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 7: walks out of that room every time, King.

1056
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 2: Of the Game, I'm doing my thing. I'm paid in

1057
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:44,919
Speaker 2: the way the league. He has remained at the top

1058
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 2: while still being one of the most exciting fighters on

1059
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 2: planet Earth. He's on parallel. He dominated.

1060
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've had enough of this, Luke Jesus do by

1061
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 1: the way, avoided no One.

1062
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 2: Well, well, look here's what I'm saying, because Dana seems

1063
00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 2: to be laughing at his own jokes now, like he

1064
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 2: did this on purpose to kind of needle us back.

1065
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:05,280
Speaker 2: But it's kind of funny.

1066
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 1: Right, here's my favorite part about that number one. John

1067
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: is obviously ducking Tom aspinall, he didn't avoid anyone at

1068
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: two oh five. It is true.

1069
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 2: Did you see how John got played? Somebody made took

1070
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 2: a screenshot of that promo, but then in very small

1071
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 2: letters at the bottom put I'm ducking aspinall and then

1072
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 2: John re shared it on I think Instagram.

1073
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: So I did see that. But the one I want

1074
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 1: to make is at two oh five. I mean at

1075
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 1: two oh five. It's hard to over like if you

1076
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 1: watched all of John Jones fights, like, I don't even

1077
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 1: know who the close number two would even fucking be.

1078
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: I mean Cormier, I guess, but like number two and

1079
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 1: what sense uh all time two five?

1080
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 2: Dany Cormier. Daniel Cormie is one of the seven best

1081
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Speaker 2: fighters in the history.

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00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: Okay, but the distance between them is significant.

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00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 2: People need to remind themselves of that.

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Speaker 1: The light heavyweight resumes comparing the two. John is the

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00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: best light heavyweight by a gazillion light years.

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Speaker 2: Would you shoot me out back if I said that

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00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 2: Cormier deserves a high ranking history than.

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00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,879
Speaker 1: All though, yes, I would shoot you out back. Yes,

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00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:04,280
Speaker 1: that's a that's a moron.

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00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 2: I just think that DC gets gets under caught anyway, I'll.

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Speaker 1: Helps evolve the game. Cormier did not necessarily do that.

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Speaker 1: And Comier was fucking awesome.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Cormy never beat Jones. It's the truth. They

1094
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 2: never beat Jones.

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00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: But dude, I just want to be clear, like John's

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00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: resume at two o five is as close to bulletproof

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Speaker 1: in a weight class as anyone's resume.

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00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 2: Against no doubt does. The debate was pound for pound

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Speaker 2: number one right now again.

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Speaker 1: So my two favorite things are one, putting in a

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Speaker 1: video that he avoided No. One while he is actively

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00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: avoiding someone hilarious point two and point two point two.

1103
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: Very little, not not nothing, but very little in that

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Speaker 1: video is evidence of someone who deserves a pound for

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Speaker 1: pound number one ranking.

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Speaker 2: It's almost that's hilarious. It's almost a shorter version of

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Speaker 2: the Dana four minute media takedown videos that we've seen

1108
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 2: now twice. And I think I'm getting benefits through SAG

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00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 2: from my appearances and that, but I kind of like

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Speaker 2: this one. Can we argue back if we can defend

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00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 2: John in any way, can we say that he's not

1112
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 2: ducking until we find out what happens immediately after the

1113
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 2: Steepay fight. If immediately after the Steapey fight he's retiring,

1114
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 2: then he's ducking Tom. But you could argue that this

1115
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 2: is the promotion wanting so badly for this fight to

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00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 2: happen that they're just delaying it.

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00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 9: Right.

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00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 2: You could argue that at least, like.

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00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: We gotta well listen. If he says after the fight,

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Speaker 1: y'all and then signs to fight at aspinall, well then yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's not ducking. But the more time that expires, you

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00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 1: find that the notion of him fighting Aspenall increases. I don't,

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Speaker 1: I don't, I don't know, but I don't find that

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00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: to be in all a serious thing. Also, you know

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Speaker 1: the way in which he never went to heavyweight when

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Speaker 1: Francis was there, and then tried to make it seem like, yes,

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00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: he was there all along, and it's like we'll be

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Speaker 1: there to tell the truth. It's like, dude, you picked

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Speaker 1: absolutely John Jones Cherry picked not a single soul at

1130
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 1: two of five. He fought generations of these motherfuckers and

1131
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: they couldn't win. But at heavyweight it's a completely different

1132
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 1: ballgame for him.

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Speaker 2: It'd be Wow's contained his quick reaction here to this.

1134
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 2: It seems like he's.

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Speaker 1: Playing with this half for you.

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Speaker 10: I don't know how long we need to talk about it,

1137
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 10: but could help. But notice the John Jones promo that

1138
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 10: ran tonight.

1139
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Speaker 1: Uh yeah it was.

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Speaker 10: It had a lot of things calling him the goat,

1141
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,879
Speaker 10: talking about his accomplishments. And now, is that something you've

1142
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 10: been planning for a long time that just happened to

1143
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 10: roll out this week or was that a direct response

1144
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:21,879
Speaker 10: to anything that happened here last week?

1145
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 2: I was in the back. I didn't even see it. Air,

1146
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 2: I didn't even know they aired that.

1147
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: There's a lot of stats about him.

1148
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 2: Who did you guys read them?

1149
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: There's a lot of Now you.

1150
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 2: Guys read the stats.

1151
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 10: He didn't talk a lot about the guys recently that

1152
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 10: he's beat it, talked about his whole career.

1153
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 7: Still, well, you recently just beat the heavyweight, the number

1154
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,800
Speaker 7: one heavyweight in the world. Uh yeah, I hope you

1155
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:42,320
Speaker 7: guys read that stat You know what, you know what?

1156
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: You know?

1157
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 7: What is fucking great about technology? We're not far away

1158
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,800
Speaker 7: from AI actually doing these rankings, and uh, it'll be

1159
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 7: a great fucking day when AI starts doing this ship.

1160
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Speaker 2: So I'm really excited about that. It does feel like

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Speaker 2: AI is doing the rankings when whenever the chance.

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Speaker 1: I see the rankings. You just need a basic algorithm

1163
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 1: that can pump out.

1164
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Speaker 2: Well, you know that trope UFC does whenever a champion loses,

1165
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 2: and if they get dominated, it doesn't matter that they're

1166
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 2: the number one contender.

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Speaker 1: I've been harping on that. It drives me fucking insane.

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Speaker 2: Quick, what do you make of There's some people that

1169
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 2: are saying from the back and forth that Dana had

1170
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:20,439
Speaker 2: with Kevin Iley a week and a half ago about

1171
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 2: the same topic, to Dana doing more interviews, it seems

1172
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 2: with less uh less milk boy types and real ones.

1173
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,439
Speaker 2: I've seen people online saying, look, right now, UFC's taken

1174
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 2: a few pr hits right The sphere is an ongoing

1175
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 2: sort of argument between the fans. There's the lawsuit, there's

1176
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 2: a lot of things going on, the quality of Fight

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00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 2: Night cards all that. Is this a calculator move by

1178
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Speaker 2: Dana to get back in the good graces or just

1179
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 2: be a chum again to because he's letting people debate him,

1180
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 2: which never happens.

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00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do think it's a concerted effort. I'm getting

1182
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: the sense that he's being advised to embrace it a

1183
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 1: little bit more. And I've been saying this pretty consistently

1184
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 1: when he does, are you going to hear every answer

1185
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 1: as some kind kind of illuminated truth. No, you might

1186
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: find it to be bullshit. He's a promoter. Your favorite

1187
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 1: promoter still bullshits all the time. I think Eddie Hearn's

1188
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: a great promoter. He's full of bullshit a lot. That's

1189
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 1: just that's the job.

1190
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 2: But at least he's not welcoming the question.

1191
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: That's right. He's welcoming the questions, and to Dana's credit,

1192
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: some of the answers are pretty fucking good actually, and

1193
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 1: so I actually feel like it's just better for everyone.

1194
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,320
Speaker 1: It creates a healthier environment for everybody if there's a

1195
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 1: little bit of cross pollination rather than these like segregated

1196
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 1: walls pushing everybody apart. You don't get better information or

1197
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: analysis that way, Luke.

1198
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 2: I haven't been following the DWCS timeline as much of

1199
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,280
Speaker 2: this season, although I saw that guy was at Finny Torres.

1200
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 2: He's gonna get a third third cit shirt shot with

1201
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 2: after Dana shout out him after the second. But how

1202
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 2: about thirteen to one Underdog on Tuesday Night, Uni Si

1203
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 2: du Ben Dubin providing this one b hold that this

1204
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 2: one hitter quitter on this Kayla Harrison look like, Luke,

1205
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 2: what do you think of this? Wow?

1206
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 1: Yeahri above Venezuela, I mean this was awesome. Look at

1207
00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 1: she fakes like she's going for the takedown. Just come

1208
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 1: right over the top. She walked into it though, which

1209
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 1: is is that?

1210
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 9: Like?

1211
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 1: In discussion for Ko the Air my pushing this well,

1212
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 1: Dana was saying that this was the biggest upset in

1213
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,760
Speaker 1: Contender Series history, which team one. That's insane.

1214
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:11,879
Speaker 2: So Dana was going nuts after By.

1215
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: The way, didn't just win flat Chaota, Oh.

1216
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,320
Speaker 2: This is exactly what Dana is looking for, to the

1217
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 2: degree that he gave her a contract while in the cage.

1218
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 2: Let's watch this, you know.

1219
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 1: The phrase if obviously gampoint man Dana White is a

1220
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:29,959
Speaker 1: game game incredible.

1221
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:32,399
Speaker 4: Didn't stay her a contract right there?

1222
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 2: That's the latest upset and.

1223
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 3: Not win.

1224
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 2: That's good.

1225
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: That is good, pr that's a great video.

1226
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 2: Good for her.

1227
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 1: Absolutely and also how much you I have been saying

1228
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: we need, we need more of this than the women's game. Yes,

1229
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: just somebody just absolutely just trying to fucking lay down

1230
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 1: the and hamhocks.

1231
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 2: Let let's go, by the way, see Androge suing her

1232
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 2: ex manager for still.

1233
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: Two million dollars alleging two million dollars of a.

1234
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 2: Now it makes sense because she wasn't that far removed

1235
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 2: from being champion and was selling her championship shorts and

1236
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 2: gloves to try to train.

1237
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 1: I don't know the merits of the case, but what

1238
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: I can say is would it surprise you that MMA

1239
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 1: managers would be entrenched in lawsuits like this. There's there's

1240
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: a bunch of MMA managers and I cannot overstate some

1241
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: of them are great, but there's no entry to there's

1242
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 1: no barrier, the no test, there's no nothing. The Commission

1243
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: doesn't give a shit how much. Some of them are

1244
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 1: crooks or or just brokers for the UFC, and you

1245
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 1: tell the fighters, dude, this guy is a broker for

1246
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:40,320
Speaker 1: the UFC to be like.

1247
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 2: Watch if you watch the MMAI video that came out

1248
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 2: about this topic, it seems like these guys are also gatekeepers.

1249
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 2: You almost can't get into the UFC unless you're represented by.

1250
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: Some Some of that is true, yes that's a little overstated,

1251
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: but some of it is strung.

1252
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 2: Shout out to Danny Rube though I like that guy.

1253
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 1: I do like Danny. I have a good relationship with

1254
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 1: Daby former ou wrestler he's got a great head of hair.

1255
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 1: Oh that's unfair.

1256
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 2: Hey, let's go to point four. Dana is involved in this,

1257
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 2: but it's headlined by Turkey A Laschik, the Saudi Arabian

1258
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:11,760
Speaker 2: maven of that large entertainment fund that is fueling boxing

1259
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 2: at the moment. So Turkey was under fire this week

1260
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 2: with the Twitter beef with journalist Jake Donovan. We'll get

1261
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,800
Speaker 2: to that in a second, but if Dana looks like

1262
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 2: he's doing good PR, Turkey's done pretty damn good PR

1263
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 2: since that Twitter dust up. The first bit of it, Luke,

1264
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 2: and maybe the biggest announcing a new potential pay per

1265
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 2: view price point for the States right where we're regularly

1266
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 2: paying seventy eighty one hundred dollars for boxing pay per views.

1267
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 2: Not only was Turkey giving us deeper cards of late

1268
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 2: they go on forever though, but they're deepest shit. He's

1269
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:43,399
Speaker 2: also now, let's throw to that tweet, announcing a plan

1270
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 2: that he wants to lower boxing prices to twenty pounds

1271
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 2: in the UK twenty dollars worldwide, and said the better

1272
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,320
Speaker 2: beef bevall pay per view, which is weird because the

1273
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 2: main event's on for free on ESPN Plus, but the

1274
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 2: undercart is on his own and it's a pay per view.

1275
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 2: He's lowering that price to fifteen bucks in the States

1276
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,320
Speaker 2: October twelfth, and says people will watch illegally because the

1277
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 2: price is high. This is in the future, will not

1278
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 2: build boxing. If I give good fights with a good price,

1279
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 2: it will increase the fam Or will.

1280
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 1: Michael Benson leading all of his tweets with his excellency

1281
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 1: please is fucking nausy now I know, so look, let's

1282
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 1: talk about this.

1283
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 2: I will say that England has gotten it right for

1284
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 2: a while. A big part of why England is always

1285
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 2: on fire for boxing since the twenty twelve Olympics with

1286
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 2: Joshua in my opinion is they do these stadium fights,

1287
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 2: but the ticket prices are affordable to get in and

1288
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 2: pay per views are generally in that twenty dollars area

1289
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 2: across the board. If Turkey makes this change, and if

1290
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 2: he's going to launch a boxing league in twenty twenty five,

1291
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 2: like the rumors are that it's gonna be, he's gonna

1292
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 2: be doing big cards. Is this a sustainable product that

1293
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 2: will literally top stop people on team stream from doing that?

1294
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 2: If I'm gonna have a dude over and I'm only

1295
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 2: paying twenty bucks for this. It's gonna be a fun

1296
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Speaker 2: night at the fights. Forget chasing the streams. It's time

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00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 2: to do it. It's time to make make make good

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Speaker 2: with this one.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe we're having this discussion in this way

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00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 1: if it was as simple as lowering the price of

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00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 1: pay per view to twenty bucks, because you believe you

1302
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,399
Speaker 1: would be able to make up the amount of money

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00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 1: you would otherwise be losing by dropping the price, by

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00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 1: creating more sales. What is your working theory for why

1305
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 1: all of these MSOs, Direct TV, Comcast, which, by the way,

1306
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 1: they have quants and other business analysts assess why the

1307
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 1: pay per view price is where it is is? What

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00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: is your theory aside from everyone just being a fucking

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00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 1: idiot that they haven't done this yet in the States.

1310
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 2: Because the way the States works with the pay per

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00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 2: view companies is you're still at a point where you're

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00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 2: giving half of your profits if you're a promoter true

1313
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 2: to the pay per view company for distribution. And then

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00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 2: number two, the way that the boxing financials are like

1315
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 2: the middle class has been destroyed. You're no longer seeing

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00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 2: like high level championship fights on so called free TV

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00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 2: or cable pay TV. Things have to go to pay

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00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 2: per view because that's the only way to afford people that.

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00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's greed. Sometimes it's just like, look, this fight

1320
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:53,839
Speaker 2: can only happen on pay per view, and we only

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00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 2: have a chance of making money if it's eighty or

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00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 2: ninety dollars. We know, they know the large percentage you're

1323
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 2: going to stream, but your whole that you're getting get

1324
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 2: what what's an acceptable paper view in boxing? Says two

1325
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 2: hundred thousand and thre hundred thousand is like considered as

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00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 2: a success, where ten years ago.

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Speaker 1: That was eighty dollars. Eighty dollars, three hundred k buys

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00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 1: is twenty four million dollars. Yes, that's a significant amount

1329
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 1: of hene now question just the point I'm trying to make.

1330
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 1: There are fans out there who just believe everyone is

1331
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 1: dumb but them, and it simply doesn't work that way.

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00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 1: The reason why pay per view is so much more

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00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: expensive in the United States versus the UK is one

1334
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: we have a much longer history of buying pay per

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00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 1: view in the United States at higher prices. We've just

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00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 1: become accustomed to it. That's part of the reason. The

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00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 1: other one is what you mentioned, the boxing economics. It's

1338
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 1: actually hard to afford some of these shows without it.

1339
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 1: But I just want folks to understand something. If you

1340
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 1: had I did some math on Twitter for this, if

1341
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 1: you had at eighty dollars for three hundred k, you'd

1342
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 1: have twenty four million. So if you sold that at

1343
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: twenty you'd have to do one point two million buys

1344
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 1: just to make the same amount of money.

1345
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 2: Could you argue that great fights would get that if

1346
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 2: the price was downe here, So.

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Speaker 1: Here's my argument. Yes, I do think. I do think

1348
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 1: there are certain kinds of shows where that model might

1349
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 1: be able to work. The single fight, that's exactly right.

1350
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: But the idea that you can just do this at

1351
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: scale and then this is what basically people are positing.

1352
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 1: People are positing that these companies with significant financial analysis

1353
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 1: and quantitative analysis have just decided to punt money away

1354
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 1: and there's a much better way of doing it. They

1355
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: just won't, Whereas what the reality is is the companies

1356
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 1: have made a calculated decision. They have figured out you

1357
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 1: can make more money even if you have a smaller

1358
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 1: amount of total buys and charging more because there's a

1359
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Speaker 1: certain kind of person on that night who has to

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00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 1: get it. It's premium entertainment, and and that's why they

1361
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 1: get That's why they make more money that way.

1362
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Speaker 2: Same reason why the boxing ticket prices in Las Vegas

1363
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 2: are so jacked up and out of whack because so

1364
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 2: much of it is going to the casino.

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Speaker 1: You see. I see so many people like if it

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00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 1: was twenty bucks, I would pay for it versus being free.

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00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 1: I think there are some people that don't get me wrong,

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00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 1: Like if all of a sudden they were twenty dollars,

1369
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 1: would more people pay for a pay per view? I mean,

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00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 1: there's no doubt in my mind it would go up. Yeah,

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00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 1: But would he go up enough for the company to

1372
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 1: make money relative to what it was making before with

1373
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Speaker 1: the exception of a couple of shows here or there.

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Speaker 3: Fuck no.

1375
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 2: Let me let me say two things to that. One,

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Speaker 2: We have to understand that Turkey is coming from a

1377
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 2: much different spot than Bob aram in ESPN, Al Hayman

1378
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 2: and PBC Amazon are coming from. He has unlimited he

1379
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 2: has unlimited money, and they're used to these pay per

1380
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 2: views just tanking. So if he can create something that

1381
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 2: I believe is positive boxing pr If he's going to

1382
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 2: act the role of boxing Santa Claus, sports washing without question.

1383
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 2: If he's going to act the role of boxing Santa Claus, well,

1384
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 2: here's what's not going to work. Getting into beefs with fighters.

1385
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 2: That's gonna look bad publicly, getting into beefs with journalists,

1386
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 2: which again we'll get to in a second. It's going

1387
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 2: to look bad publicly. But if you act like a

1388
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 2: benevolent boxing superman and you're saying, okay, fans, even if

1389
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 2: it's for show, yes, I think it's a good for show,

1390
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 2: But I don't think these other promoters can afford to

1391
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 2: do it that way. Now, you're the key question that

1392
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 2: we're asking here, and the real question that you're asking

1393
00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 2: is like, could it work? I just think if, if

1394
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 2: if combat sports fans, and a lot of them are young,

1395
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 2: sophisticated Internet dwellers that know the dark end of the

1396
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 2: web too, dude, this is so easy to stream at

1397
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 2: this point, it's like diabolically hold on, listen, diabolically easy,

1398
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 2: even with a shorter price point. Why are they going

1399
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 2: to pay when they don't have to and they're used

1400
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 2: to this, Why are they going to pay so?

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01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 9: Well?

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01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 1: The argument is The argument would be, well, listen, sometimes

1403
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 1: those streaming sites can be a little bit inconsistent. If

1404
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 1: I knew I could have a consistent HD CRISP feed

1405
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 1: for twenty bucks, I'd be willing to pay that amount.

1406
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 1: But here's the problem. The zonez feed is sometimes inconsistent.

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01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 1: Holy shit, ESPN plus. Need I say more about the inconsistency.

1408
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 1: I've never heard your rucking services. I mean, they're just

1409
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 1: some of the worst in the.

1410
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 2: Entire Compare it to the phantom menace various.

1411
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 1: If what I'm trying to make is BC, the economics

1412
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 1: don't work. This is clearly a pr stunt. Now to

1413
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 1: your point, to your point, BC, I'm happy for it,

1414
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 1: Like twenty bucks for a pay per view on the

1415
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 1: Saudi's picking up the tab for everybody. What's the harm? Well,

1416
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 1: what's the harm? I just want folks to understand the

1417
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 1: people who charge the amount of money. Could they charge less? Right?

1418
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 1: Could they relax the price point to a degree, Yes,

1419
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 1: of course they could, but it could never be at

1420
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 1: a point where it beats piracy and also makes your pocketbook. Also,

1421
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 1: the last thing on this BC. When de Zone launched

1422
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen.

1423
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 2: They were gonna kill pay per view.

1424
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 1: What was their monthly ask in twenty eighteen ninety nine?

1425
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 1: Do you know what it is today?

1426
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna guess twenty six it's.

1427
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 1: Nineteen ninety nine a month, which doesn't even include pay

1428
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 1: per view. Right now, the model doesn't fucking work, except

1429
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 1: for maybe maybe here's the last thing, last thing, the

1430
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 1: Netflix equation. Now that's a difference maker.

1431
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 2: That is a difference maker Long Island. Luca is kind

1432
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 2: of like our stuttering John man on the street that

1433
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 2: gives us regular people answers.

1434
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 1: He does also masterbate back there, which is well, he

1435
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 1: does very gross.

1436
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 2: I believe I can out you as an on team

1437
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 2: stream right look, I mean come on, right, yeah. Are

1438
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 2: people like you You're you're a great example of a

1439
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 2: great combat sports fan. Are people like you going to

1440
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 2: break stop breaking the rules for twenty bucks?

1441
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say no. But I do agree with Luke

1442
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 4: that maybe if it got a little wonky, I might

1443
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 4: be like, all right, I'll bite the bullet on.

1444
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 2: The twenty twenty is really nothing, so that's interesting.

1445
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 1: It's just an imaginary number, like, oh, if it was twenty,

1446
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 1: I'd do it. But there's no economics behind that.

1447
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 2: Note I'm gonna build a bridge to get to Dan.

1448
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 2: Let's talk Turkey. Let's He also put this thing out

1449
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 2: Golden Boy tweet. Let's see this. He's announces that he's

1450
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 2: partnering with Oscar de la Joya of Golden Boy. I

1451
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 2: just hanged up on the phone with my friend. We

1452
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 2: had a long talk and I decided the card of

1453
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 2: Latino's Night in riodd season will be partnered with Golden

1454
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 2: Boy for free on TV networks and platforms around the world.

1455
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 2: Luke does this feel like, and he writes at the end,

1456
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 2: we care about boxing fans that this cart is for free.

1457
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 2: Kind of feels like the UFC a year ago in

1458
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 2: Vegas building their inroads into crashing the party for the

1459
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 2: Mexican boxing holidays, Seko de Mayo September Independence Day and

1460
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 2: putting the Bite Night show with Chevchenko on as a

1461
01:02:57,160 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 2: non pay per view beenelevant, benevolent, right, kind of it's strategic,

1462
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 2: but it's not awful.

1463
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 1: Strategic but it's not awful. I think that's exactly I

1464
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 1: think it's exactly right. I mean, just on pure boxing terms,

1465
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 1: I think it's a great idea.

1466
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 2: I think part of this is cleaning up the image

1467
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 2: you'll tell me let's show now. The Twitter war that

1468
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 2: earlier this week.

1469
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 1: He's clearly in desperate need of a PR fix.

1470
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 2: So Jake Donovan doesn't fuck around former boxing scene writer.

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01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 1: Who's he writing for the Ring magazine?

1472
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:25,920
Speaker 2: So he wrote, So Jake had been writing critical tweets

1473
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 2: of the lengths of shows for Turkey and the way

1474
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 2: that someone boxing have bowed.

1475
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 1: This came from Jake noting that they were promoting the

1476
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 1: sphere on screen for a boxing show, and he was like,

1477
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 1: what the fuck are you doing?

1478
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 2: And Jake's great old school doesn't take shit. Uh proud borikua?

1479
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 1: Is that the right word?

1480
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 2: Uh? He put that out. So Turkey basically called him

1481
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:47,919
Speaker 2: a coward in one tweet and then specifically said, don't

1482
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:49,959
Speaker 2: be ashamed to be a coward. Not all the people

1483
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:51,920
Speaker 2: have courage. You deleted the tweet half hour ago, and

1484
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 2: if you kept it, it wouldn't have met anything. The

1485
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 2: only thing worth it in your account is the Ring

1486
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 2: Magazine name. Luke. People were talking about, you know, bonesaw

1487
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:01,320
Speaker 2: gonna arrive in the mail or or maybe they're gonna

1488
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 2: get is he gonna call us Oscar because Golden Boy owns,

1489
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 2: you know, the Ring magazine. To Jake's credit, he stood

1490
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 2: his ground and said, you know, fuck you and good night,

1491
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 2: the nicest way to tell you off. But then Jake

1492
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 2: puts out that a mutual friend reached out to both

1493
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 2: and while they didn't talk directly, they agreed to remove

1494
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 2: the posts and move forward. And Turkey responded to this

1495
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 2: with some emojis of like a thumbs up. So what

1496
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 2: do you think happened to repair this?

1497
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 1: I think that the Saudis are used to people like

1498
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 1: Michael Benson his obsequiousness, calling allow Turkey aloshka, his excellency,

1499
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 1: I'm not here to like calling out to be unnecessarily

1500
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 1: rude or provocative, but to treat him like you would

1501
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 1: any other actor in the boxing space, essentially. And I

1502
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 1: just don't think that these some of these guys who

1503
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 1: are a sort of the Saudi inner circle, are just

1504
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 1: accustomed to having people talk to them this way, and

1505
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 1: it probably rubbed him the wrong way. But I think

1506
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:55,080
Speaker 1: he also is smart enough to understand there are some

1507
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 1: business considerations here and.

1508
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 2: It's a really bad pr to act like.

1509
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 1: Remember, it's not just getting sideways with Jake getting with Canelo.

1510
01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 2: I think it was Tank and Timzu PBC guys, Well.

1511
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:06,480
Speaker 1: The tim Zu had kind of been like I wouldn't

1512
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 1: mind working with. There was some misunderstanding apparently, but certainly

1513
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 1: he got sideways with Canelo. Remember he even told my

1514
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 1: coppinger of ESPN, oh, we're going to drown or whatever

1515
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 1: the verbage was for for next week. So for the

1516
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 1: Spear Show, and I think getting sideways with them, he

1517
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 1: felt the blowback and didn't like the way that it felt.

1518
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 1: So how long this will last I don't know. And again,

1519
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 1: if he's going to lower price points to fifteen or

1520
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 1: twenty bucks, who's against it? It's just you have to

1521
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 1: understand the reality. If this was a viable strategy for

1522
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 1: other actors in the space to do it to make money,

1523
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 1: they would have done that ship by now.

1524
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 2: All right, let's bring in the Dana White element. Talk

1525
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 2: about the potential for the superpowers here aligning. We know

1526
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 2: that the rumor is remember when Reuters and the New

1527
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 2: York Times put it out that Turkey Alaschika is hoping

1528
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 2: to in some way consolidate the biggest promotions and launch

1529
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 2: a league next year in boxing, Luke, I've heard the

1530
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 2: idea of almost tournaments and every division like did you

1531
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 2: make a numbers to the listeners floating around. I will

1532
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 2: when it's time. But here is Dana White on Tuesday

1533
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 2: Night and our good friend Alan Dawson of I Believe

1534
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:07,479
Speaker 2: Boxing World News for this one, asking a key question

1535
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 2: about Dana's potential involvement.

1536
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 9: Turkey Aldischik wants to create a league in boxing that

1537
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 9: he wants to apparently launch early twenty twenty five.

1538
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:18,480
Speaker 3: Is that something TKO Boxing could help with?

1539
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 7: Huh? Anything is possible, anything as possible. Who knows, Have

1540
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 7: a great night.

1541
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 2: So, Luke, there's a mic drop moment. I'm not here

1542
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 2: to talk on the you know, the sort of fun

1543
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 2: evil sides of their personality. Oh we got to illegal

1544
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 2: you know, evil superpowers. These are arguably the two most

1545
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 2: powerful men of combat sports right, arguably.

1546
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 1: Two of the most powerful. I mean al Haman's in

1547
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 1: that conversation, without a question.

1548
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 2: If they come together and pool their resources name, value, history, money,

1549
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 2: executional skills, everything, what could this mean to boxing?

1550
01:06:54,960 --> 01:07:01,960
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly. I mean you should, Okay, can

1551
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 1: you just tell the folks the gig? You got it?

1552
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 1: A baron?

1553
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:06,919
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, So everyone knows that UFC CEO Dana

1554
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 2: White is a big fan of unbeaten Irish prospect Callum Walsh.

1555
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 2: Callum King Walsh is of course the dating Tabitha Ricci

1556
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 2: in the UFC. You see him a front row at

1557
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 2: so many UFC fights fights out of California these days

1558
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:22,440
Speaker 2: from Ireland. He is going to have a homecoming fight Friday,

1559
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 2: September twentieth in Dublin on UFC Fight Pass where he's

1560
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 2: been fighting Tom Looffler of three sixty Promotions as the

1561
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 2: promoter and Luke. This is a big deal. Dana's going

1562
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 2: to be there and as Dana has said publicly, he's

1563
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 2: not Callum Walsh's manager, but he's been helping him out financially.

1564
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 2: He believes in him as a prospect. He wants to

1565
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 2: him to have this big moment. So I got a

1566
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 2: chance to be on the call at USC fight Pass

1567
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 2: September twenty eight.

1568
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 1: Where's the hip hop horn?

1569
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 3: There we go.

1570
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:49,000
Speaker 2: This is a big idea, a big deal to me.

1571
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:53,439
Speaker 2: It's me Raoul Marquez, my buddy of Showtime in Showbox fame,

1572
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 2: and Corey Erdman, one of the better growing, great blow

1573
01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:58,640
Speaker 2: by blowmen in the game today in a great dude

1574
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:00,800
Speaker 2: boxing writer. The three of us are going to be

1575
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 2: on the call. This is a big deal for me.

1576
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 2: I'm calling a fight in Ireland at the three Arena

1577
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:07,160
Speaker 2: with that crowd and that energy there. It's certainly a

1578
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 2: really tough fight for Calm Walsh because he's fighting a

1579
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 2: top rank Polish opponent. I haven't figured out how to

1580
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 2: pronounce the name and in a good way yet, so

1581
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 2: I'll wait on that. But I wonder you know what

1582
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:21,799
Speaker 2: this means for UFC's They have been kicking the tires

1583
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:24,559
Speaker 2: on boxing for some time. This is a bigger push

1584
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:28,439
Speaker 2: into it, sure, getting Saudi money to bankroll some of it,

1585
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 2: because the UFC probably doesn't want to pay boxing salaries,

1586
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 2: but they probably do want to sign superstars.

1587
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 1: That people care about, or at least some level. Maybe

1588
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:38,679
Speaker 1: not Tank Davis level superstar, but you know, some kind

1589
01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 1: of Tim Zuo potentially level fighter. They would maybe want

1590
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 1: to get involved with the Saudis to bankroll some of that.

1591
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's hard to really say. I do

1592
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 1: think though, it's pretty clear that the UFC is once

1593
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 1: again kicking the tires on boxing, and if they can

1594
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 1: find a way to make it work, they will do

1595
01:08:57,439 --> 01:08:57,800
Speaker 1: more of this.

1596
01:08:58,040 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 2: They took the time and energy and resources from power

1597
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:01,920
Speaker 2: slap and put it into boxing. We've always said what

1598
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:03,559
Speaker 2: it look like if Dana White made a big move

1599
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 2: into boxing. Wou Now if he's got a war chest

1600
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 2: next to him.

1601
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:09,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, of almost, it's still gonna be weird trying to

1602
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 1: explain the paid discrepancy between the boxers and the MMA fighters.

1603
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 1: That's a problem for them to solve.

1604
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:16,679
Speaker 2: But yes, and you did get people saying Eric mcgrack

1605
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:18,760
Speaker 2: and our buddy on Twitter, a lot of people saying, oh,

1606
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 2: so now you're gonna have too monopolies you're gonna be

1607
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 2: a part of potentially. I mean it is a power

1608
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:24,720
Speaker 2: monopoly moved from data and that's like you think this

1609
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 2: is a monopoly.

1610
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:27,680
Speaker 1: We just have to see how it plays out. I'm

1611
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 1: excited they're doing the Callum Walsh one offs. Then that's

1612
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 1: only good for guys like that. There's actually nothing wrong

1613
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 1: about that at all. We just have to see what

1614
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:35,640
Speaker 1: they're gonna do.

1615
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 2: It is an interesting develop to follow closely. Topic number

1616
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:41,040
Speaker 2: five to close out before we hear from you the

1617
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:43,719
Speaker 2: fans and get into my shei at is a little

1618
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:45,320
Speaker 2: bit of looking back and looking forward. Let's start with

1619
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:47,800
Speaker 2: the recap from Tuesday Morning Breakfast with a new A

1620
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:50,760
Speaker 2: in Japan the pod for pound ranked. I currently have

1621
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:54,360
Speaker 2: him number two on my CBS Sports list and undisputed

1622
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:58,559
Speaker 2: junior featherweight champion Niowa. Newa was back a quick defense

1623
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:02,880
Speaker 2: against former champion veteran TJ. Doheny of Ireland. He now

1624
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 2: fights out of Australia. Yes, he was thirty seven coming in,

1625
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 2: but Dohne was built as sort of a Japanese destroyer.

1626
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 2: He had won his world title in twenty nineteen on

1627
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 2: Japanese soil and entered this fight with three straight knockouts

1628
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 2: in Japan against Japanese opponents.

1629
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:16,639
Speaker 1: Luke.

1630
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 2: In the end, we've got the destruction we expected from

1631
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 2: the standpoint that it was a seventh round stoppage. Dohane

1632
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 2: caught a combination to the to the body where a

1633
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:28,479
Speaker 2: new A was really targeting in those middle rounds, and

1634
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:30,639
Speaker 2: ultimately lost feeling in the back of his right leg.

1635
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 2: He held his back and it was sort of an

1636
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 2: injury stoppage, but obviously the punches sort of broke him

1637
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 2: down physically. But I think because a new A took

1638
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:43,240
Speaker 2: his time was more defensive and calculated than normal. I

1639
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:45,000
Speaker 2: did see a lot of people on Twitter, going see

1640
01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 2: this is proof this guy isn't the destroyer you think

1641
01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 2: he is.

1642
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, shut them.

1643
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:50,439
Speaker 2: What's your take coming out of this fight?

1644
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:55,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, shut the fuck up. Preck y'all, let a preck

1645
01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 1: shut the fuck up. It's just so fucking stupid. Now, listen,

1646
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 1: did the fight go longer than expected? On my live

1647
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:03,559
Speaker 1: stream that morning? I predicted in a way in seven

1648
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:06,840
Speaker 1: I nailed it exactly, so that was pretty great. He

1649
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 1: definitely took his time, There's no question about that. He

1650
01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 1: did not have the same kind of fire and intensity

1651
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 1: that he did in the last spout against Louis Neary.

1652
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 1: I don't think it's reallyant no matter where you come

1653
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:20,400
Speaker 1: down on this debate, there's no question about that. But

1654
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 1: two things I'm gonna say. One, dough Haney, how are

1655
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 1: you properly pronounced it? That's how they were pronouncing on

1656
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 1: the broadcast. I don't know.

1657
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:28,840
Speaker 2: I never saw you worried about a white man's pronunciation

1658
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 2: of affair.

1659
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 1: Well, they're all white Spanish Spanish. That's a great thing.

1660
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 1: But in all seriousness, a couple of things happened. One,

1661
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:43,720
Speaker 1: Johnny was a little bit crafty. He was a little

1662
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:46,920
Speaker 1: bit crafty. That's right, a little bit crafty number two.

1663
01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:50,600
Speaker 1: He was also very defensive himself for long stretches. There

1664
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 1: was a couple of rounds he was letting it go,

1665
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:55,000
Speaker 1: but really not not not exactly. He wasn't doing that.

1666
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:56,720
Speaker 1: More to the point, I have a whole breakdown coming out.

1667
01:11:56,720 --> 01:12:00,640
Speaker 1: It's actually done. It just I just not gonna help you.

1668
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 1: It's YouTube dot com slash lutalis but noia in a way.

1669
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:08,120
Speaker 1: How he destroyed the body of TJ do'heney, Yes, and

1670
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:11,439
Speaker 1: the body work was absolutely impeccable, to the point where

1671
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 1: this guy basically got paralyzed, albeit temporarily, as you did

1672
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 1: indicated over the top of his hip on his right side.

1673
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 1: This was a fight that probably should not have happened.

1674
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 1: I think you can make that criticism, like, of all

1675
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:23,960
Speaker 1: the guys you should be fighting, it should have been

1676
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:26,400
Speaker 1: mur John Akhmadaliev. That's the guy that I think most

1677
01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 1: people want to see him up against next or potentially

1678
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 1: at one twenty six. This fight was at one twenty two.

1679
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:34,040
Speaker 1: The idea that he you know, you know what this

1680
01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:37,720
Speaker 1: performance reminded me of. It reminded me a little bit

1681
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 1: of Boots against Chucadzium, Yes, where he didn't mind getting hit,

1682
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:44,280
Speaker 1: and he was fighting a crafty guy who just didn't

1683
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:46,960
Speaker 1: want to exchange with him. Now, obviously at thirty seven

1684
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 1: and in a way being pound for pound, he was

1685
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:51,439
Speaker 1: able to like corral him and hurt him more. But

1686
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:54,519
Speaker 1: Boots didn't come out of that fight looking like super

1687
01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:57,040
Speaker 1: awesome necessarily either. Then he goes and fights royman Villa

1688
01:12:57,120 --> 01:13:01,680
Speaker 1: and looks fucking awesome. So slow the role on the

1689
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:02,800
Speaker 1: in a way hating.

1690
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:05,320
Speaker 2: Here's what people missed on this. So against Nary, a

1691
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 2: legitimate puncher for this weight class, former champion at one eighteen,

1692
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 2: he came in guns blazed and like a Newe tends

1693
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 2: to do, and what happened He ended up on his back. Right,

1694
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:15,160
Speaker 2: It was sort of like a oh, maybe there are

1695
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:17,160
Speaker 2: guys and what was the What was the Even though

1696
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 2: we gave a new A so much credit for getting

1697
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:21,800
Speaker 2: up against Nary and then systematically taking him out and

1698
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:23,920
Speaker 2: stopping him like he does, there were a lot of

1699
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:26,679
Speaker 2: people that are saying that with the right fighter, maybe

1700
01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:29,559
Speaker 2: there's the blueprint of how you get to him right, Well,

1701
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:31,439
Speaker 2: what did he do in the time between that fight?

1702
01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 2: In this fight obviously worked on his defense, his distance management,

1703
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:38,880
Speaker 2: and any other holes which are very you know, rare

1704
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:41,040
Speaker 2: to find in his game. And I thought the fact

1705
01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:44,479
Speaker 2: that he came out aggressive, but aggressive from mid range,

1706
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:48,120
Speaker 2: touching Doheny and after about three rounds, Doughheney was not

1707
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:50,760
Speaker 2: throwing back in return, was very defensive, trying to you know,

1708
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:53,560
Speaker 2: extend the fight. What did Anwa do. He made the

1709
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 2: transition to become the counterpuncher, knowing that that's the only

1710
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 2: way he's going to find those openings if Dohani gives

1711
01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:00,960
Speaker 2: it to him. And I think he allowed Dohnny to

1712
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:03,240
Speaker 2: get off with that lead looping right hand. It wasn't

1713
01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:05,680
Speaker 2: hurting him, it was opening up the guard. And then

1714
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:08,800
Speaker 2: that's when Anue came in said the body focusing and

1715
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 2: then really started to back him up with body combinations.

1716
01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:15,400
Speaker 2: If you look at the punch numbers, Dohnnie basically attempted

1717
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 2: and landed single digits in the first three rounds and

1718
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 2: it was when Anuwa purposely would back up into the corner,

1719
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:23,720
Speaker 2: letting Doughhennie in that Johnny got a little bit of

1720
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:26,000
Speaker 2: offense out, but it opened up the room that he needed.

1721
01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 2: That's all pump for pound IQ, that's the guy who

1722
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:30,680
Speaker 2: didn't put himself in harm's range for big shots, made

1723
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 2: the adjustments necessary, still got rid of him. And if

1724
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:34,880
Speaker 2: you want to talk about efficiency, what do we always

1725
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:38,439
Speaker 2: say about Gervante Canelo that they're killers, but they're efficient killers.

1726
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 2: Now he landed forty six percent of his punches in

1727
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:45,120
Speaker 2: this fight, fifty three percent of his power shots, and

1728
01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:48,600
Speaker 2: limited his opponent to single digit landings in five of

1729
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:52,720
Speaker 2: seven rounds. Dude, that's domination. And the fact that he

1730
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 2: adjusted from the neary fight because he knows Luke that

1731
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:57,560
Speaker 2: there's big fights to call. Bob Aaron came in the

1732
01:14:57,640 --> 01:14:58,719
Speaker 2: ring afterwards and said.

1733
01:14:58,680 --> 01:14:59,639
Speaker 1: God, a fight in America.

1734
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:02,320
Speaker 2: He's gonna come back in December. In Japan, there's some

1735
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:05,560
Speaker 2: talk it could be Sam Goodman from Australia, maybe Merjan Madaliev.

1736
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 2: But then Bob said, we're going to do a big

1737
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 2: fight in twenty twenty five. Early in Vegas, look a

1738
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:12,599
Speaker 2: lot of talk that that could be unbeaten banaweight champion

1739
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:17,240
Speaker 2: and Japanese growing super Maristani Junto Nakatani, who can bang,

1740
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 2: who had.

1741
01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 1: KO of the Year last year? Right where he sat

1742
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 1: that guy down, he did have a big one. I

1743
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 1: got it. I thought the guy he did that.

1744
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I gotta look that up, dude, that

1745
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:30,559
Speaker 2: he's going big places and in big directions. I love

1746
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 2: the fact that he fixed a sort of a hole

1747
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 2: in his game and a glitch came out too aggressive

1748
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:37,080
Speaker 2: against a power. Butcher fixed that. Dudehni had nothing for him.

1749
01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 1: I do disagree with your analysis in a way. So

1750
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:41,760
Speaker 1: I do recognize that there was a round there where

1751
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:44,320
Speaker 1: he was kind of almost himself against the ropes, inviting

1752
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:46,519
Speaker 1: dohan in sure, So it's not to say that that

1753
01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 1: didn't happen. I don't see that as materially a reason

1754
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:51,400
Speaker 1: why the fight went the way that it went. In fact,

1755
01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:54,240
Speaker 1: I think it's the opposite. To me. What you really

1756
01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:56,439
Speaker 1: get from this performance is there was a little bit

1757
01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:58,280
Speaker 1: of that kind of playing him and loosening him up

1758
01:15:58,280 --> 01:15:58,640
Speaker 1: a little bit.

1759
01:15:58,760 --> 01:15:59,720
Speaker 2: He stopped taking the lead.

1760
01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 1: He almost for a short amount of time. Almost all

1761
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:06,799
Speaker 1: of the best offense he had came from pressuring Dohany

1762
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 1: up against the ropes. That's one and then two getting

1763
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:12,800
Speaker 1: him to break his stance. That was what he wanted

1764
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 1: to do, and as you saw it, for example, he

1765
01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 1: would go jab and then cross to the body. He'd

1766
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:20,560
Speaker 1: push Dohaney into the ropes, Johanna would ricochet back and

1767
01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 1: then he would double up on the same side. That

1768
01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:24,160
Speaker 1: was one, but it was all about getting him in

1769
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 1: the corner, fainting him into the corner, and then making

1770
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 1: him kind of lean where if I'm in this position,

1771
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:31,680
Speaker 1: I might have some defensive options, but I don't. I'm

1772
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 1: not in a strong position to attack. And that's when

1773
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 1: the combinations flowed. And what's the best body punch that

1774
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 1: he has. It's that left hook to the goddamn side

1775
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:43,639
Speaker 1: or lever. That's his number one body punch.

1776
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 2: Else, this is a right cross to the chest that

1777
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:46,320
Speaker 2: always throws.

1778
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:49,920
Speaker 1: I agree, but that's his number two best body punch.

1779
01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 1: It was once he got the combinations flowing from Dohany

1780
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 1: being here that all the damage really began to accumulate.

1781
01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 1: That's my read on the phone.

1782
01:16:57,280 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 2: Well, I guess me, and now bringing it down that way,

1783
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:01,760
Speaker 2: as I think the the biggest punches Dohnny landed was

1784
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:04,639
Speaker 2: was because of that switch and style and in placement.

1785
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:05,920
Speaker 1: It did open him up a little bit.

1786
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 2: I think that was his goal because you watch he

1787
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 2: was getting a little bit frustrated because do Honey wasn't

1788
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:10,640
Speaker 2: thrown back and was covering up.

1789
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:12,479
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, if I had to list the

1790
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:15,560
Speaker 1: reasons why, in a way got the job done, it

1791
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:17,479
Speaker 1: has to be from the pressure game he applied.

1792
01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:21,519
Speaker 2: Oh he went from counterpunching in each round back into pressure.

1793
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:23,280
Speaker 2: But he needed to create those openings to sort of

1794
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:26,559
Speaker 2: start that chain of reaction. Either way, brilliant across the board,

1795
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:28,360
Speaker 2: big fights coming for him. Number two.

1796
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:29,880
Speaker 1: And by the way, and doh Haney was crafty. I

1797
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:32,080
Speaker 1: know some people were like, he went a round or two,

1798
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:35,960
Speaker 1: but you know, in a way couldn't quite get going

1799
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:38,040
Speaker 1: as fast as he wanted to. And in part because

1800
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:39,840
Speaker 1: Dohanny was making a little bit difficult him. I give

1801
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:40,599
Speaker 1: him a little bit of credit.

1802
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:42,280
Speaker 2: I did feel like there were certain points where it

1803
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:45,800
Speaker 2: almost felt like a new way was not carrying him,

1804
01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:48,800
Speaker 2: but like really committing to setting him up and playing

1805
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:49,840
Speaker 2: like not the long game.

1806
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:53,400
Speaker 1: But carrying I disagree with, but taking his time a

1807
01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 1: little more than normal.

1808
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:56,840
Speaker 2: Yes, I fully agree with it's gonna be interesting. I

1809
01:17:57,360 --> 01:17:59,519
Speaker 2: have him number two, I have but at three, who sick?

1810
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:02,840
Speaker 2: Number one, four and five are better beav than bev

1811
01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:04,519
Speaker 2: all Canelo at six? Where do you have in a

1812
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:07,640
Speaker 2: way at this moment, pop if you even think about so.

1813
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:10,759
Speaker 1: I probably have him number two after Usak or after Crawford.

1814
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:12,920
Speaker 1: After Usak, I would have probably three in.

1815
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:14,800
Speaker 2: Great times to create. By the way, people can don't

1816
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 2: even talk about we're gonna get Fury Usic too in December,

1817
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:19,840
Speaker 2: like it's fucking insane, Like anything I could say at

1818
01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:22,280
Speaker 2: any point, Oh Turkey made a misdep or she shouldn't

1819
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:24,799
Speaker 2: have said that, we're still getting these big ticket deliveries.

1820
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:27,760
Speaker 1: That was as long as he's delivering them. Who's who's

1821
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:28,360
Speaker 1: upset about it?

1822
01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:30,280
Speaker 2: Indeed, all right, let's look ahead to this weekend as

1823
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:32,439
Speaker 2: we continue topic number five. Look, we don't talk about

1824
01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:34,600
Speaker 2: Bellatur much for good reason, but they do have a

1825
01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:38,280
Speaker 2: card Nubs Saturday night in San Diego, and it's the

1826
01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:40,600
Speaker 2: return of really one of the top young fighters that

1827
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 2: we've been following. Usman and Narmaga madeoff his first fight

1828
01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:45,640
Speaker 2: in eleven months since he had that no contest there.

1829
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:47,680
Speaker 2: I believe he has got sprent premise right. It was

1830
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:49,400
Speaker 2: part of the tournament that they were doing for a

1831
01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:52,200
Speaker 2: million bucks. He failed the drug test, but then he

1832
01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:55,759
Speaker 2: wasn't ultimately stripped to the title, but then pf Eleator happened.

1833
01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 2: We never got the conclusion of that million dollar tournament.

1834
01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 2: Either way, Normaga medovs back and he's going to defend

1835
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:04,879
Speaker 2: for whatever it's worth, the Bellatore lightweight tattle against Alexander Shabli.

1836
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:07,639
Speaker 2: So look, the fight doesn't blow, it will be good

1837
01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:10,280
Speaker 2: to see Usman. But it does feel like all of

1838
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:13,240
Speaker 2: these big name Belatoor fighters that aren't in PFL, that

1839
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:16,040
Speaker 2: are in the PF Eleator space, the Johnny Eblins, the

1840
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:21,519
Speaker 2: the Patchy Mix, they're just sort of lingering out there

1841
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:24,840
Speaker 2: in space, like Princess Leah in episode eight, right, which

1842
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:26,920
Speaker 2: was just ridiculous. Remember she was just floating through space.

1843
01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 1: She went right back. That was a last Jedi Like,

1844
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch this.

1845
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:33,479
Speaker 2: I love Usmann and Maga Metov, but these big names

1846
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:34,800
Speaker 2: have to get out of Belatour and they got to

1847
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:35,840
Speaker 2: fold that already.

1848
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 1: Right, it's a complete waste of time. I mean we

1849
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:39,720
Speaker 1: said this when they folded it. Bellatore has no fan base,

1850
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:42,080
Speaker 1: it doesn't exist, and you're like, oh, what about when

1851
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:43,759
Speaker 1: they went to Ireland, But like you can just replace

1852
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:45,920
Speaker 1: that with PFL and they would probably do just as well.

1853
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:48,599
Speaker 1: Like are people that attached to the Beltore brand. They

1854
01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:49,800
Speaker 1: ran that Backerville it's hot.

1855
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:50,160
Speaker 2: It's hot.

1856
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:54,519
Speaker 1: The brand was run into the ground. This is just

1857
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:56,160
Speaker 1: the reality of it. But that doesn't mean they don't

1858
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 1: have quality fighters.

1859
01:19:57,320 --> 01:20:00,160
Speaker 2: Why isn't Usman on ESPN. I'm fighting for ps FELL

1860
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 2: right now.

1861
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:04,200
Speaker 1: A little birdie told me that there might be a

1862
01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:06,760
Speaker 1: contract clause that they, as we've indicated previously, that they

1863
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:08,559
Speaker 1: have to keep Militar alive for at least a year

1864
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:11,280
Speaker 1: for television purposes. Okay, so I guess we'll see how

1865
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:13,840
Speaker 1: that goes. It feels like a gigantic waste of time,

1866
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:16,760
Speaker 1: but also like PFL, you know, but we're just going

1867
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:18,840
Speaker 1: to keep doing our tournament. It's like, I mean, there

1868
01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:24,200
Speaker 1: has never been a bigger bridge to nowhere then PFL

1869
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:27,719
Speaker 1: thinking that the tournament model is going to change their fortunes.

1870
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:29,880
Speaker 1: It's fucking insane to me.

1871
01:20:30,040 --> 01:20:32,400
Speaker 2: Sarah Palin can see the Soviet Union from her kitchen

1872
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:33,559
Speaker 2: window in was ceiling.

1873
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:35,720
Speaker 1: You can go back in time. But but what I

1874
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:38,400
Speaker 1: want to make is this main event at one fifty

1875
01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:42,759
Speaker 1: five between undefeated usmin Ricamdoff and Alexander Shabilee is fucking great.

1876
01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:47,720
Speaker 1: It's a great fight. Shably Is is crafty he is.

1877
01:20:48,040 --> 01:20:51,000
Speaker 1: I think he's got like almost thirty fights. He is

1878
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:55,160
Speaker 1: well rounded. He can wrestle. Usman is well rounded as well,

1879
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:59,719
Speaker 1: but I think sometimes can be a little bit patient

1880
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:01,800
Speaker 1: with offense, where I feel like Shublee kind of goes

1881
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:04,719
Speaker 1: after it a little bit more. It's an interesting style

1882
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 1: crack clash. It's like one of the honestly list the

1883
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 1: best one to fifty five fights you can make outside

1884
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:13,320
Speaker 1: of the UFC. This is one of them. It is,

1885
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:14,680
Speaker 1: this is easily one of them.

1886
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:17,040
Speaker 2: I still think uswander mockemenoff is must see TV. The

1887
01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:18,760
Speaker 2: way that he has just come on the scene, the

1888
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:22,360
Speaker 2: command that he has. He looks UFC elite ready, Like.

1889
01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:24,400
Speaker 1: At this, I mean, could he be champion?

1890
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:26,080
Speaker 2: I don't know, Yeah, I know, I don't know how

1891
01:21:26,120 --> 01:21:27,720
Speaker 2: far away he is, but I think he's he's within,

1892
01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:29,760
Speaker 2: but he would be top five at a bear, within

1893
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:31,800
Speaker 2: top ten rings to make a runout. There's no question

1894
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:34,719
Speaker 2: more than made this weekend Friday Night bout.

1895
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:36,639
Speaker 1: My heart ou real quickly Douglas Leam against Aaron Jeffery.

1896
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:38,960
Speaker 1: That's kind of like whether they got left match co

1897
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:41,840
Speaker 1: main event. Don't forget Lorenz Larkin when he left UFC

1898
01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:44,679
Speaker 1: to go to Bellatore was a big fanfare. He fought

1899
01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:47,160
Speaker 1: the belt Or NYC card and like most people when

1900
01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:50,000
Speaker 1: they during Belltour, they just become a black hole of

1901
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:51,760
Speaker 1: pr when people forget that they're even there.

1902
01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:54,600
Speaker 2: In the MK documentary number three, he challenged me for

1903
01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:56,760
Speaker 2: not voting for him in the beltour rankings in the

1904
01:21:56,800 --> 01:21:59,720
Speaker 2: top ten. Oh, I remember he wasn't eligible in their

1905
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:01,639
Speaker 2: online computer system for that division.

1906
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:03,560
Speaker 1: Though he's fighting a guy who I didn't think was

1907
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 1: all that great at first, but now I think is

1908
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 1: very good. In Live on Chokoly again, if I'm pronouncing

1909
01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:09,840
Speaker 1: that the right a Georgian guy, yes, And then the

1910
01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:12,200
Speaker 1: last win he had of Alan Domingos was nice. He

1911
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:13,960
Speaker 1: had a loss before that ta Koreshkov, which was a

1912
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:17,840
Speaker 1: split decision, but then before that come off. If you

1913
01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:20,599
Speaker 1: didn't see that that win he got that elbow ko

1914
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:24,120
Speaker 1: Lenz Larkin still has a little bit left in the tank.

1915
01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 1: So this is my point. If you watch this Beltor card,

1916
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:30,800
Speaker 1: there might actually be some fun stuff, high level stuff

1917
01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 1: on it. But here's what blows my goddamn mind. There's

1918
01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 1: another show the same day as the Canelo Sphere show

1919
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:41,639
Speaker 1: on September fourteenth, all the way in Europe. Think it's

1920
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:43,120
Speaker 1: an Ireland, but it's all the way in Europe.

1921
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:45,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's like not competing for the same fans.

1922
01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:47,759
Speaker 1: Though, at what is the business model?

1923
01:22:47,880 --> 01:22:50,160
Speaker 2: It must what is the best? It must be you

1924
01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:53,479
Speaker 2: you alluded to some contractual obligation, but it must be

1925
01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:55,720
Speaker 2: tied into like did Coker get deals with all these

1926
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:59,240
Speaker 2: arenas ahead of time in some of these international countries

1927
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:01,639
Speaker 2: and they're just trying to out these pre established deals.

1928
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:03,000
Speaker 2: It's it's hard to I don't know.

1929
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Speaker 1: I'm just saying I don't know.

1930
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:06,280
Speaker 2: It's hard to care. What do you care?

1931
01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 1: Though?

1932
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:09,719
Speaker 2: Friday Night One Championship is gonna have one one sixty

1933
01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:12,320
Speaker 2: eight back on American soil. They do plan on being

1934
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:14,280
Speaker 2: here a good amount this year. It's at the ball

1935
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:17,840
Speaker 2: Arena and Denver. Injuries did hurt this card a good

1936
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:20,680
Speaker 2: deal when stam Fairtex fell out early and then Luke

1937
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:23,439
Speaker 2: Kid Rotolo fresh off of that cgi about that you

1938
01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:26,960
Speaker 2: said was the most exciting about ins Andrewcket.

1939
01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:28,920
Speaker 1: They're calling it the best no gig grappling match of

1940
01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:29,280
Speaker 1: all time.

1941
01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:31,479
Speaker 2: He was supposed to be in a submission grappling title

1942
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:34,759
Speaker 2: fight with Mikey Mussamechi who now has late replacement Babetto

1943
01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:37,360
Speaker 2: Olivera and the Colemane. The main event here is the

1944
01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:41,840
Speaker 2: bandon Waite muy Thai titleist Jonathan Haggerty. Welcomed superlech Kia

1945
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:47,200
Speaker 2: superlech Uh. Luke, we have do Long Island. Don't we

1946
01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:49,000
Speaker 2: have a DM associated this? Can you play that? Or

1947
01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:49,519
Speaker 2: do you delete that?

1948
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:49,760
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1949
01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:52,400
Speaker 2: All right, let's hear from a DM from Donkin. You

1950
01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:56,120
Speaker 2: can answer this, Luke. Okay, this is from Dark Underscore Miziki.

1951
01:23:56,520 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 2: What's your level of excitement for the one card? He says.

1952
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:00,960
Speaker 2: I think it's pretty good, but I was hoping for

1953
01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:03,400
Speaker 2: some bigger names with their first show back in the US.

1954
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:08,920
Speaker 2: Remember they had Demetrius Johnson, Rod Dating and Stamp on

1955
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:09,960
Speaker 2: the first and.

1956
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:13,120
Speaker 1: Wasn't a ossin rules, Luke? Was Sage north Cut on

1957
01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:13,880
Speaker 1: that Denver show?

1958
01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:14,080
Speaker 9: Yes?

1959
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:18,400
Speaker 1: Right, this is not that. Now, this is what's interesting

1960
01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:20,120
Speaker 1: to me. I looked at this card. I think that

1961
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:24,479
Speaker 1: I counted five muy tie bouts and six MMA bouts.

1962
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:26,639
Speaker 1: This card is almost half muy Thaie.

1963
01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:27,479
Speaker 2: What do you make of that?

1964
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:31,400
Speaker 1: I don't know what's happening with one championship so let's

1965
01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:33,000
Speaker 1: back up a step. Brenier de Ritter, who was a

1966
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:36,800
Speaker 1: previous two waight champion, says each shit, I'm gonna go

1967
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:38,880
Speaker 1: fight in the Middle East. And another card that was

1968
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:41,280
Speaker 1: brave or you know, I mean one of the UAE cards.

1969
01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:43,479
Speaker 1: I can't remember the name of the brave move by him. Well,

1970
01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 1: he claimed that he was done with them. One came

1971
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:47,400
Speaker 1: out and was like, oh, no you're not, but he

1972
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:49,840
Speaker 1: just did it anyway. I don't know what contract ability

1973
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 1: they have to enforce this, and then you won't know

1974
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 1: this name, but he's one of their top easily one

1975
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:57,800
Speaker 1: of their top talents. Chingi's alsof was like, yeah, I'm

1976
01:24:57,800 --> 01:24:59,640
Speaker 1: done with one, and then one was like, no, he's not.

1977
01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:02,600
Speaker 1: There's sposed to be some kind of press conference clarifying this,

1978
01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 1: and it never happened. Have you not noticed that Chatri

1979
01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:08,240
Speaker 1: has been very very quiet. I like notice that, Yes,

1980
01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:10,920
Speaker 1: I don't know what is happening, but it feels like

1981
01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:16,320
Speaker 1: not all as well. And so to the point to

1982
01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:19,160
Speaker 1: the Boise, I don't think that this card is bad. Actually,

1983
01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 1: quite the contrary. The main event between Jonathan Haggerty and

1984
01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:26,120
Speaker 1: super like Now, I'm hardly any kind of muaytire kickboxing officionado.

1985
01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:28,639
Speaker 1: But even some of the research I did in preparation

1986
01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:31,560
Speaker 1: for today's showed to understand this better. Dude. This is

1987
01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:33,920
Speaker 1: a this is champ champ. This is basically they they

1988
01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:37,080
Speaker 1: fought previously in twenty eighteen. The fight was stopped I

1989
01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:40,200
Speaker 1: think due to cuts, and Haggerdy lost. But Haggardy Hassen's

1990
01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:41,560
Speaker 1: gone up and weight. Now super Like is going to

1991
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:43,320
Speaker 1: go up and weight and they're gonna meet essentially in

1992
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:46,240
Speaker 1: the middle of the bantamweight title. This is an all

1993
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:48,479
Speaker 1: time fire. Some people consider super Like to be the

1994
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:50,360
Speaker 1: best in the world. Haggerty has been is a champ

1995
01:25:50,479 --> 01:25:52,840
Speaker 1: champ there in both kickboxing and mutak because there are

1996
01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:55,240
Speaker 1: super rules like elbows and whatnot about what you can use. Dude,

1997
01:25:55,280 --> 01:25:56,360
Speaker 1: that fight is fucking.

1998
01:25:56,280 --> 01:25:59,679
Speaker 2: Sick, has been sick. Hasn't lost since Rod Tang knocked

1999
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:01,960
Speaker 2: him out by body punches in twenty twenty.

2000
01:26:02,120 --> 01:26:04,679
Speaker 1: Right, he has gotten significantly better.

2001
01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:06,120
Speaker 2: He He's on a hell of a streak right now.

2002
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:08,400
Speaker 1: And to that point, Mussamenti comes in and saves the day.

2003
01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:11,760
Speaker 1: Even though Ka Rotolo went out and they couldn't make

2004
01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:13,360
Speaker 1: it work. It's not like there's nothing of value on

2005
01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:16,680
Speaker 1: this John Linkers, John Leneker's back. Also, the Adrian Lee

2006
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:19,280
Speaker 1: of the famous Lee family is going to be fighting

2007
01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:21,759
Speaker 1: on this card. They've also got a light heavyweight Ertawan,

2008
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:25,760
Speaker 1: Shamiel Ertawan, who at a Turkey, who is so far

2009
01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:27,960
Speaker 1: showed himself to be pretty interesting to pay attention to.

2010
01:26:28,200 --> 01:26:30,240
Speaker 1: This is my point, and this has always been my

2011
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:33,640
Speaker 1: point about one. They to me have the product that

2012
01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:36,360
Speaker 1: is actually different from the UFC, that there is this

2013
01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:39,559
Speaker 1: mix of martial arts, there's grappling, there's muy Thai Ander's MMA,

2014
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:42,320
Speaker 1: and that does create some identity issues. And I don't

2015
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:44,320
Speaker 1: know exactly where it's all headed because it does seem

2016
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:46,960
Speaker 1: like they've scaled back MMA so much you don't even

2017
01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:49,800
Speaker 1: know if they're an MMA promotion hardly anymore. But it

2018
01:26:50,040 --> 01:26:53,200
Speaker 1: is a good card. It is an interesting alternative. The

2019
01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:56,639
Speaker 1: thing for me, though, is BC is are the American

2020
01:26:56,760 --> 01:27:01,000
Speaker 1: fans really going to in Denver any way? Are they

2021
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:02,479
Speaker 1: going to tune in? Are they going to show up?

2022
01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:04,720
Speaker 1: I haven't seen ticket sales. I don't think that they're

2023
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:08,400
Speaker 1: super awesome for this one, and I just don't know

2024
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:11,080
Speaker 1: what kind of impact it's going to have. The Denver

2025
01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 1: market is a strong one as you've seen, and I

2026
01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:15,320
Speaker 1: think one is trying.

2027
01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:18,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna hope it works for them. I like the

2028
01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:20,200
Speaker 2: idea of them being around in the US. They've got

2029
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:22,799
Speaker 2: names that we care about. They can produce really interesting

2030
01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:25,160
Speaker 2: bouts in non MMA fights. As we're talking about that,

2031
01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:27,679
Speaker 2: you can sort of quasi slide over and care about.

2032
01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:30,360
Speaker 2: Would it have changed if the original main event, which

2033
01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:32,920
Speaker 2: was Stamp Fairtexs who has the anime weight Championship, was

2034
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:35,559
Speaker 2: going to take on strawweight champion Jong jing Nan. They've

2035
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:38,120
Speaker 2: got who had that trilogy with with who? Andrea Lee?

2036
01:27:39,080 --> 01:27:40,560
Speaker 1: Look this up. I can't remember off the top of

2037
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:40,880
Speaker 1: my head.

2038
01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:41,240
Speaker 7: I got it.

2039
01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:42,400
Speaker 2: I got it right here, I got it.

2040
01:27:42,439 --> 01:27:46,800
Speaker 1: But certainly Stamp Fair Techs a celebrated figure Angela Angela, Yes,

2041
01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:51,960
Speaker 1: certainly stamp Fairtechs a celebrated figure in previously being in

2042
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:54,280
Speaker 1: that Denver market and then the American market. More importantly,

2043
01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:55,640
Speaker 1: I think it would have been a big deal for them.

2044
01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:58,000
Speaker 2: That's a great fight between two champions. They love doing

2045
01:27:58,080 --> 01:27:58,680
Speaker 2: champamp fights.

2046
01:27:58,800 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 1: They love it and they don't mind doing it. This

2047
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:01,800
Speaker 1: this is what I mean. I will be honest, taw

2048
01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:05,760
Speaker 1: Tree is full of shit, But but one is the

2049
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:08,519
Speaker 1: best promotion outside of the UFC. Now. I don't know

2050
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:11,280
Speaker 1: what their future looks like, but to this point, in

2051
01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:13,640
Speaker 1: this last three to four years or something like that,

2052
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:17,760
Speaker 1: it's a true different product. It's fun. I like the

2053
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:21,080
Speaker 1: way it's presented. Their belts are bigger than their flyweight champions.

2054
01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:25,120
Speaker 1: It's fucking hilarious. But I don't I don't know how

2055
01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:26,080
Speaker 1: this is going to go for them.

2056
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:29,559
Speaker 2: I generally don't need to DJ and another like, remember

2057
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:31,360
Speaker 2: when he had that some I retired. I know that,

2058
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:32,920
Speaker 2: but remember when he had that really fun fight with

2059
01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:35,240
Speaker 2: Rod Tang with the mixed rules. I need him in

2060
01:28:35,320 --> 01:28:38,400
Speaker 2: some type of like like half attraction half legitimate fight.

2061
01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:39,960
Speaker 1: You know, get him in a BJJ match.

2062
01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:41,720
Speaker 2: Don't think, Well you could do that, But don't they

2063
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:44,160
Speaker 2: need a big free agent name to come in that

2064
01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:45,040
Speaker 2: you compare against DJ.

2065
01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:47,200
Speaker 1: They'd be interested, right, Well, that's the problem with contracts.

2066
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:50,080
Speaker 1: These guys can't get ask No one ever seems to

2067
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:52,320
Speaker 1: notice boxers get out of their contracts all the time,

2068
01:28:52,680 --> 01:28:55,040
Speaker 1: and MMA fighters never get out of their contracts.

2069
01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:58,120
Speaker 2: I believe that bout airs Friday evening on Prime Video.

2070
01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:00,960
Speaker 2: Yes the shout out, maybe Ray Flores on call? Maybe right?

2071
01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 1: Uh chance, Chicago's biggest fan. That's that's the band, that's

2072
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:05,519
Speaker 1: his city.

2073
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 2: Okay, I think punk like Chicago, not as much as

2074
01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:12,799
Speaker 2: Ray Flaw. I think like Chicago, David Schmultenson.

2075
01:29:12,240 --> 01:29:14,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's it's Ray Flores.

2076
01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:15,519
Speaker 2: Do you see the schmo is gonna?

2077
01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:17,800
Speaker 1: What does he like more Chicago or haspbulla?

2078
01:29:18,160 --> 01:29:19,479
Speaker 2: Oh all the way?

2079
01:29:19,720 --> 01:29:20,080
Speaker 1: Do you think?

2080
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:22,040
Speaker 2: Did you see the schmo is going to host a

2081
01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:25,519
Speaker 2: UFC press conference next week at a weed store?

2082
01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:27,960
Speaker 1: So it's not a UFC press conference they're.

2083
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:29,360
Speaker 2: Calling involving UFC fighters.

2084
01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:32,759
Speaker 1: It does have UFC fighters, but it's not an official uf.

2085
01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:34,320
Speaker 2: It's fighters that are going to be on the sphere come.

2086
01:29:34,439 --> 01:29:37,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, including Grosso. Yes, it's that.

2087
01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:40,040
Speaker 2: What Planet thirteen one of the weeds.

2088
01:29:40,120 --> 01:29:42,040
Speaker 4: Probably Planet thirteen is the biggest one in Vegas.

2089
01:29:42,160 --> 01:29:45,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, don't you dare disparage medmen Reef is where

2090
01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:47,840
Speaker 1: it's at, shoutout. Not much money I've spent at med.

2091
01:29:48,120 --> 01:29:52,000
Speaker 2: Collen Dawson took me to a place in Vegas near Uhrema,

2092
01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:55,120
Speaker 2: near where all that like the homeless area where it's

2093
01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:57,120
Speaker 2: just streets lined up with it, where they have this

2094
01:29:57,320 --> 01:30:00,200
Speaker 2: outdoor place where they have a live comedian. They got

2095
01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:02,760
Speaker 2: some food trucks and you can buy Jay's and smoke

2096
01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:05,919
Speaker 2: them right there, and you can get cannabis infuse cocktails

2097
01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:06,200
Speaker 2: right there.

2098
01:30:06,280 --> 01:30:09,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess those comedians are not great. They probably

2099
01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:10,280
Speaker 1: have podcasts that are also.

2100
01:30:10,520 --> 01:30:16,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, the thick Boy, Hey, it's a little much. We're

2101
01:30:16,320 --> 01:30:18,360
Speaker 2: just having fun with Reddit there, Luke. No one got hurt.

2102
01:30:19,400 --> 01:30:21,439
Speaker 2: It is nothing a double it couldn't figure out. Indeed,

2103
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:24,040
Speaker 2: let's keep it going with those d ms from donks.

2104
01:30:24,040 --> 01:30:27,240
Speaker 2: Every Sunday night or some Sundays, we put out a

2105
01:30:27,360 --> 01:30:29,960
Speaker 2: call on the social webs, usually on our Instagram and

2106
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:33,080
Speaker 2: Twitter handles that morning combat for you the fan to

2107
01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:36,160
Speaker 2: ask us questions. One day we'll bring back fan subs,

2108
01:30:36,200 --> 01:30:37,680
Speaker 2: but for now, all you can do is ask them

2109
01:30:37,880 --> 01:30:45,719
Speaker 2: a DM question from the damn donks. Yeah, that was gross.

2110
01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:47,920
Speaker 1: Have you seen that camel? That baby camel that's become

2111
01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:49,920
Speaker 1: a meme that goes ah no.

2112
01:30:50,240 --> 01:30:53,799
Speaker 2: But all those noises remind me of that viral nineties

2113
01:30:53,880 --> 01:30:56,200
Speaker 2: video that we all watched at someone's college dorm room

2114
01:30:56,240 --> 01:30:58,320
Speaker 2: of the lady with the horse with the giant You

2115
01:30:58,400 --> 01:30:59,400
Speaker 2: know what I'm talking about.

2116
01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:02,440
Speaker 1: I watch porn between humans.

2117
01:31:02,560 --> 01:31:04,880
Speaker 2: And in one cup. You watch that kind of stuff.

2118
01:31:05,200 --> 01:31:08,559
Speaker 2: Let's go to question one from James O'Connor, seventy three

2119
01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:10,960
Speaker 2: to one. Is it more likely, great question that Connor

2120
01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:15,320
Speaker 2: McGregor fights again, or that John Jones fights again after

2121
01:31:15,439 --> 01:31:18,320
Speaker 2: the Steepay fight. Jesus, it's a good question here, Luke.

2122
01:31:18,360 --> 01:31:20,920
Speaker 2: Where do you think we're at with McGregor, Dana says.

2123
01:31:20,680 --> 01:31:22,759
Speaker 1: Out there tweeting about how he wants to be president

2124
01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:26,960
Speaker 1: of Ireland. I'm like, that's a little bit much overconfidence.

2125
01:31:27,240 --> 01:31:29,600
Speaker 2: Dana did seem to indicate recently that there's going to

2126
01:31:29,680 --> 01:31:32,080
Speaker 2: be some Connor news coming up. I think he said

2127
01:31:32,120 --> 01:31:38,559
Speaker 2: that on some stream. What's more likely Connor will fight

2128
01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:39,240
Speaker 2: again in the UFC?

2129
01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:39,840
Speaker 1: You agree with that?

2130
01:31:39,960 --> 01:31:41,680
Speaker 2: Right? He will fight at least once more. It could

2131
01:31:41,680 --> 01:31:42,920
Speaker 2: be a train wreck, but he will fight again.

2132
01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:44,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know about that.

2133
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:44,960
Speaker 5: What.

2134
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:48,040
Speaker 2: Okay, let's do the percentages one to one hundred percentage

2135
01:31:48,080 --> 01:31:51,680
Speaker 2: that McGregor fights in the UFC again, I say it's

2136
01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:55,080
Speaker 2: forty forty's high, but I still say forty percent we

2137
01:31:55,120 --> 01:31:55,679
Speaker 2: see him again.

2138
01:31:56,560 --> 01:31:57,439
Speaker 1: I'll go twenty five.

2139
01:31:57,760 --> 01:32:01,479
Speaker 2: Okay, percentage John Jones fights presumably he beat Steepe. If

2140
01:32:01,479 --> 01:32:03,960
Speaker 2: he beats steep A percentage that he fights again five

2141
01:32:05,120 --> 01:32:08,559
Speaker 2: five percent. I disagree with you. I think I think

2142
01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:10,600
Speaker 2: part of what he's doing is negotiation. I think the

2143
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Speaker 2: UFC is going to bring a decent offer. I hope

2144
01:32:12,439 --> 01:32:16,360
Speaker 2: it's big enough, and I think that there's a forty

2145
01:32:16,439 --> 01:32:19,000
Speaker 2: five percent chance that John Jones fights again after step A.

2146
01:32:19,040 --> 01:32:21,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put some respect on John's name. I'm going

2147
01:32:21,120 --> 01:32:24,160
Speaker 2: to put some respect that I respect his abilities, obviously

2148
01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:26,280
Speaker 2: we all do. But I'm going to put some respect

2149
01:32:26,320 --> 01:32:28,559
Speaker 2: on his history and say that although he said things

2150
01:32:28,560 --> 01:32:31,240
Speaker 2: I don't like, and he's actually on video saying maybe

2151
01:32:31,240 --> 01:32:32,760
Speaker 2: I'll just retire after steep It, we all know he

2152
01:32:32,840 --> 01:32:35,000
Speaker 2: said all that stuff. I still think it's more about

2153
01:32:35,040 --> 01:32:38,000
Speaker 2: public posturing and negotiation as it should be, considering he

2154
01:32:38,040 --> 01:32:40,439
Speaker 2: wanted Deontay Wilder money a few years ago. Remember, I

2155
01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:42,040
Speaker 2: think that's I think we have a better chance of

2156
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:43,000
Speaker 2: seeing John keep fighting.

2157
01:32:43,600 --> 01:32:45,000
Speaker 1: I don't all right.

2158
01:32:45,080 --> 01:32:48,200
Speaker 2: Next question from the DM Donkers, Hey, remember Brendan Lynch

2159
01:32:48,400 --> 01:32:50,280
Speaker 2: media our old social media.

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01:32:51,040 --> 01:32:52,880
Speaker 1: He's a Gordon Ryan from Wish.

2161
01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:55,439
Speaker 2: He He's a dime store Gordon Ryan.

2162
01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:55,760
Speaker 1: Wow.

2163
01:32:57,840 --> 01:32:59,880
Speaker 2: You know, just he's Jack as shit. By the way,

2164
01:33:00,400 --> 01:33:03,400
Speaker 2: he says, if you were Dana, where would you build

2165
01:33:03,439 --> 01:33:05,960
Speaker 2: the next UFCPI First of all, Luke, we have Vegas,

2166
01:33:06,360 --> 01:33:09,320
Speaker 2: we have China, Shanghai, Mexico City.

2167
01:33:09,160 --> 01:33:12,760
Speaker 1: Maybe hm, and what's you know what I would probably do?

2168
01:33:13,439 --> 01:33:15,080
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe you don't need it. Like part of

2169
01:33:15,120 --> 01:33:18,160
Speaker 1: going to China is to develop an undeveloped market. Part

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01:33:18,200 --> 01:33:20,640
Speaker 1: of going to Mexico is the same. Where would you

2171
01:33:20,760 --> 01:33:23,720
Speaker 1: go that's not as developed? Uh, you don't. I don't

2172
01:33:23,720 --> 01:33:26,120
Speaker 1: know the answer to that. I would say, though, somewhere

2173
01:33:26,160 --> 01:33:28,639
Speaker 1: in mainland Europe seems like could benefit.

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01:33:28,680 --> 01:33:29,280
Speaker 2: Why not Japan?

2175
01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:34,160
Speaker 1: You could do Japan. Why has Japan's market had? I mean, dude,

2176
01:33:34,320 --> 01:33:36,439
Speaker 1: And when I first started watching MM again after college,

2177
01:33:37,479 --> 01:33:42,000
Speaker 1: you know, Japan had so many fighters, they were so

2178
01:33:42,240 --> 01:33:44,080
Speaker 1: many weight classes. Yes, they were the center of the

2179
01:33:44,160 --> 01:33:44,800
Speaker 1: MMA or.

2180
01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:46,840
Speaker 2: What Brazil became like ten years ago.

2181
01:33:47,240 --> 01:33:49,120
Speaker 1: Has always had a lot of fighters in their defense.

2182
01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:51,680
Speaker 1: They've always started the UFC, Yeah, exactly, And even then

2183
01:33:51,680 --> 01:33:53,640
Speaker 1: there was always guys right behind them, Marco Huas and

2184
01:33:53,680 --> 01:33:55,800
Speaker 1: all the other legends like lived, King of the fucking

2185
01:33:56,040 --> 01:33:57,960
Speaker 1: is he alive when yeah he's a lot yeah yeah,

2186
01:33:57,960 --> 01:33:59,920
Speaker 1: Pedro Hiszzo and all those guys, do you speak English?

2187
01:34:00,240 --> 01:34:02,760
Speaker 1: I think he does. If Midro does, if the King of.

2188
01:34:02,760 --> 01:34:04,639
Speaker 2: The Street speaks English, he needs to be on the show.

2189
01:34:04,680 --> 01:34:05,679
Speaker 2: That guy was a badass.

2190
01:34:05,960 --> 01:34:08,240
Speaker 1: You could do it in Japan. I don't know if

2191
01:34:08,280 --> 01:34:11,080
Speaker 1: they really want to resuscitate that market. I think it's

2192
01:34:11,120 --> 01:34:13,240
Speaker 1: more about nurturing what's kind of already happening. And listen,

2193
01:34:13,320 --> 01:34:16,120
Speaker 1: France's inn advanced economy. Spain in Germany are as well

2194
01:34:16,280 --> 01:34:16,920
Speaker 1: UK too.

2195
01:34:17,000 --> 01:34:18,519
Speaker 2: But they have a lot of people in India. Look

2196
01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:20,519
Speaker 2: your home nation. A lot of fricking people in that.

2197
01:34:20,560 --> 01:34:22,559
Speaker 1: That's good, you know, if you're looking at developing markets,

2198
01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:24,920
Speaker 1: it's probably a better place because obviously the Indians have

2199
01:34:25,000 --> 01:34:26,120
Speaker 1: a great history with wrestling.

2200
01:34:26,439 --> 01:34:28,320
Speaker 2: One out of every three people in the world live

2201
01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:29,240
Speaker 2: in India or China.

2202
01:34:29,400 --> 01:34:30,000
Speaker 1: That's insane.

2203
01:34:30,200 --> 01:34:31,519
Speaker 2: That is very much insane.

2204
01:34:31,560 --> 01:34:34,599
Speaker 1: Insane. I don't know. It's hard to this. They've gone

2205
01:34:34,640 --> 01:34:36,240
Speaker 1: to places that make a lot of sense. I don't

2206
01:34:36,360 --> 01:34:38,439
Speaker 1: know where they would go past this.

2207
01:34:39,240 --> 01:34:41,880
Speaker 2: I guess we'll have to see, all right, interesting question,

2208
01:34:42,040 --> 01:34:45,560
Speaker 2: I uh, not Africa. Where would you put it?

2209
01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:49,080
Speaker 1: That's a great question too. I mean I don't I

2210
01:34:49,080 --> 01:34:50,240
Speaker 1: don't know where. I don't know where'd you put it

2211
01:34:50,280 --> 01:34:52,080
Speaker 1: in Sub Saharan Africa. Would you put it? Would you

2212
01:34:52,160 --> 01:34:55,240
Speaker 1: put it in the Arab North? I don't. Probably in

2213
01:34:55,280 --> 01:34:57,200
Speaker 1: the Arab North, hard to say.

2214
01:34:57,560 --> 01:34:59,960
Speaker 2: Maybe in Libya jakeem Dermish's home came.

2215
01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:02,520
Speaker 1: The thing is this, though, like China is a relatively

2216
01:35:02,600 --> 01:35:08,720
Speaker 1: stable government, Yes, Mexico relatively stable, US relatively stable. I

2217
01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:11,080
Speaker 1: don't know about some of the places that you've mentioned.

2218
01:35:11,200 --> 01:35:14,679
Speaker 1: How stable those countries. I don't want to I don't

2219
01:35:14,680 --> 01:35:16,519
Speaker 1: want to overstate the problem. But like I can't go

2220
01:35:16,640 --> 01:35:19,439
Speaker 1: back to Lebanon because it has went. I visited it

2221
01:35:19,479 --> 01:35:21,599
Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen. That's not North Africa, but it's pretty close.

2222
01:35:22,120 --> 01:35:24,160
Speaker 1: I visited in twenty eighteen, and right after I left,

2223
01:35:24,200 --> 01:35:26,320
Speaker 1: the whole ship kind of collapsed. And it's like, I

2224
01:35:26,360 --> 01:35:28,000
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know what somebody did?

2225
01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:29,000
Speaker 2: You break a few commodes?

2226
01:35:29,120 --> 01:35:31,479
Speaker 1: Is that what you're talking No, No, you're talking about

2227
01:35:31,479 --> 01:35:34,000
Speaker 1: the Levity's economy went into free fall. It's and then

2228
01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:36,040
Speaker 1: don't you remember the blast at the harbor? Yes, yes

2229
01:35:36,120 --> 01:35:38,240
Speaker 1: I do. And now this in South Lebanon they're going

2230
01:35:38,280 --> 01:35:39,519
Speaker 1: to war with Israel. It's a whole fox.

2231
01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:40,960
Speaker 2: Put it in Saudi.

2232
01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:44,160
Speaker 1: People want to go there. I don't know people really

2233
01:35:44,200 --> 01:35:44,720
Speaker 1: want to go there.

2234
01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:47,360
Speaker 2: All right, let's hear from at flannels and JITs. What

2235
01:35:47,400 --> 01:35:50,479
Speaker 2: do you think that means? Flannels and Jitsumm? Is that

2236
01:35:50,600 --> 01:35:51,839
Speaker 2: like masturbating in your pajamas?

2237
01:35:51,960 --> 01:35:52,640
Speaker 1: Yeah? Probably right?

2238
01:35:52,680 --> 01:35:55,639
Speaker 2: All right, he says, can you do a documentary series

2239
01:35:55,800 --> 01:35:57,320
Speaker 2: on your travels through Newark?

2240
01:35:57,400 --> 01:36:00,519
Speaker 1: I no longer go there anymore, So I skip Newark

2241
01:36:00,600 --> 01:36:02,240
Speaker 1: now and to go straight into Manhattan.

2242
01:36:02,320 --> 01:36:04,240
Speaker 2: Why did you used to have to get off at Pencate?

2243
01:36:04,360 --> 01:36:05,360
Speaker 1: So the way it worked was that I would have

2244
01:36:05,400 --> 01:36:07,360
Speaker 1: to take the train station from DC to Newark, and

2245
01:36:07,400 --> 01:36:09,240
Speaker 1: then I would have to take an uber from Newark

2246
01:36:09,320 --> 01:36:12,639
Speaker 1: to Jersey City because there's actually no direct train system

2247
01:36:12,680 --> 01:36:15,679
Speaker 1: between the two. So sure that you could do the path,

2248
01:36:15,800 --> 01:36:17,800
Speaker 1: but that would have been even longer. And would you

2249
01:36:17,880 --> 01:36:19,840
Speaker 1: just go to It's like three studies. I'm coming. I'm

2250
01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:21,680
Speaker 1: coming from Washington, d C. Like I need to take

2251
01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:24,800
Speaker 1: shorter paths at all possible, So I don't so I

2252
01:36:24,840 --> 01:36:26,400
Speaker 1: don't take I don't do I don't do that anymore.

2253
01:36:26,400 --> 01:36:28,439
Speaker 1: I go straight to Manhattan. But I'll be honest, Like

2254
01:36:31,360 --> 01:36:34,839
Speaker 1: it's just imagine walking into a live staff infection.

2255
01:36:35,080 --> 01:36:38,000
Speaker 2: That is, Hey, Matt is what Matt Snyder in the back.

2256
01:36:38,080 --> 01:36:41,120
Speaker 2: Can you give us thumbs up their thumbs down? Odds

2257
01:36:41,720 --> 01:36:46,160
Speaker 2: that Morning Combat documentary number number one eight? Who knows

2258
01:36:46,920 --> 01:36:49,760
Speaker 2: odds that we see it before March of twenty five.

2259
01:36:50,479 --> 01:36:51,719
Speaker 2: We got a thumbs up. Dude.

2260
01:36:53,479 --> 01:36:55,720
Speaker 1: Once again. We will have news to announce when we

2261
01:36:55,800 --> 01:36:56,639
Speaker 1: have news to announce.

2262
01:36:57,120 --> 01:36:59,519
Speaker 2: Final question from Cubby's fan eighty, which is he is

2263
01:36:59,560 --> 01:37:01,560
Speaker 2: one of the better music fans I've ever met. A

2264
01:37:01,640 --> 01:37:04,800
Speaker 2: huge Donkey says in honor of NFL season kicking off

2265
01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:07,000
Speaker 2: this weekend. If you two were bringing ten donks to

2266
01:37:07,040 --> 01:37:09,040
Speaker 2: a game and you were in charge of the tailgate,

2267
01:37:09,320 --> 01:37:11,719
Speaker 2: what are you cooking? What drinks are out? Any party?

2268
01:37:11,760 --> 01:37:13,840
Speaker 2: Games setting up? What does the whole spread look like?

2269
01:37:13,840 --> 01:37:16,320
Speaker 2: So let's say you and I personally a tailgate. You

2270
01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:19,200
Speaker 2: and I were personally hosting a tailgate with ten of

2271
01:37:19,280 --> 01:37:22,640
Speaker 2: our friends or MK Donks or whomever. What's the men

2272
01:37:22,720 --> 01:37:24,360
Speaker 2: you looking like? What kind of drinks are we having?

2273
01:37:24,400 --> 01:37:27,280
Speaker 1: Okay, I feel like you can't have a tailgate without wings.

2274
01:37:27,720 --> 01:37:29,120
Speaker 1: I think it's fucking blasphemous.

2275
01:37:29,720 --> 01:37:32,040
Speaker 2: No, I think if you as long as you have like,

2276
01:37:32,360 --> 01:37:35,080
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to have some strong meat, whether it's

2277
01:37:35,280 --> 01:37:37,920
Speaker 2: burger badass burgers steak. You're gonna have to have a

2278
01:37:38,080 --> 01:37:39,479
Speaker 2: large meat contention there.

2279
01:37:39,520 --> 01:37:41,680
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't disagree with that, but I feel like

2280
01:37:42,320 --> 01:37:44,240
Speaker 1: I would say to me, Wings is like the met

2281
01:37:44,439 --> 01:37:44,760
Speaker 1: I mean.

2282
01:37:44,640 --> 01:37:46,519
Speaker 2: They go great with the NFL as does you know

2283
01:37:46,840 --> 01:37:51,000
Speaker 2: abuse and alcoholism and arrests and beeing on yourself? But

2284
01:37:51,800 --> 01:37:53,760
Speaker 2: if we were doing it, Yeah, I went to I

2285
01:37:53,800 --> 01:37:55,599
Speaker 2: went to a Patriots game two years ago with one

2286
01:37:55,600 --> 01:37:58,960
Speaker 2: of my kids friends and dad, and the dad is

2287
01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:01,880
Speaker 2: an expert, I mean expert tailgate and I did the full,

2288
01:38:01,960 --> 01:38:04,840
Speaker 2: like eight hour experience. It was awesome. I forgot how

2289
01:38:04,880 --> 01:38:06,000
Speaker 2: good that, how fun that is.

2290
01:38:06,200 --> 01:38:09,040
Speaker 1: It can be quite fun. Also, NFL fans are the

2291
01:38:09,080 --> 01:38:10,240
Speaker 1: biggest degenerates on Earth.

2292
01:38:10,520 --> 01:38:13,000
Speaker 2: It wasn't as bad at the Patriots game. Maybe maybe

2293
01:38:13,000 --> 01:38:13,960
Speaker 2: because it's New.

2294
01:38:13,840 --> 01:38:16,400
Speaker 1: England making that makes it far all right?

2295
01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:18,320
Speaker 2: What we we're having drinks were having, We're having cans

2296
01:38:18,360 --> 01:38:18,679
Speaker 2: of beer.

2297
01:38:19,160 --> 01:38:22,120
Speaker 1: We get in the keg. Wow, you want to really

2298
01:38:22,200 --> 01:38:24,519
Speaker 1: act like a party. I mean, it says said ten people.

2299
01:38:24,560 --> 01:38:27,200
Speaker 1: So I don't know, but like, if if there's a choice,

2300
01:38:27,280 --> 01:38:28,599
Speaker 1: I'm going to pick a keg over.

2301
01:38:28,720 --> 01:38:30,679
Speaker 2: Kings of beer and you would drink beer again?

2302
01:38:30,760 --> 01:38:32,000
Speaker 1: I would drink beer for that. I mean, I want

2303
01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:34,240
Speaker 1: I'm on antibiotics right now, but presumably i'd.

2304
01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:39,479
Speaker 2: Be off okay, okay, and we would need chips, dips,

2305
01:38:39,560 --> 01:38:40,200
Speaker 2: chains web.

2306
01:38:42,880 --> 01:38:43,599
Speaker 1: Or so seven layer.

2307
01:38:44,600 --> 01:38:47,559
Speaker 2: You know what is the crack of that area? Buffalo dip?

2308
01:38:47,880 --> 01:38:49,960
Speaker 2: You have buffalo chicken dip with chunks of chicken in it.

2309
01:38:50,200 --> 01:38:50,800
Speaker 1: I'll accept that.

2310
01:38:51,080 --> 01:38:53,639
Speaker 2: I have been that guy at the party who comes

2311
01:38:53,720 --> 01:38:56,559
Speaker 2: to your kids nor you know, christening or whatever party.

2312
01:38:56,560 --> 01:38:58,479
Speaker 1: It just starts masturbating and put it out.

2313
01:38:58,400 --> 01:38:59,880
Speaker 2: And I'll, you know, take down a couple of beers

2314
01:39:00,080 --> 01:39:02,160
Speaker 2: and before you know it, I am standing over the

2315
01:39:02,240 --> 01:39:03,880
Speaker 2: bowl so no one else can get there and just

2316
01:39:03,960 --> 01:39:06,759
Speaker 2: eating the whole thing. And I'm in such a zone

2317
01:39:06,840 --> 01:39:08,960
Speaker 2: mentally that it's like it didn't you Only people can

2318
01:39:09,040 --> 01:39:10,720
Speaker 2: kill people and just black out and then they wake

2319
01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:12,200
Speaker 2: up like I didn't do that. Yeah, that's like me

2320
01:39:12,320 --> 01:39:13,120
Speaker 2: in front of that all right?

2321
01:39:13,520 --> 01:39:13,560
Speaker 8: That?

2322
01:39:13,640 --> 01:39:15,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I agree with that one. Are we going

2323
01:39:15,560 --> 01:39:16,240
Speaker 1: to have corn hole?

2324
01:39:18,040 --> 01:39:20,000
Speaker 2: I don't mind the park A little corn hole? Yeah,

2325
01:39:20,040 --> 01:39:21,640
Speaker 2: I think you have to, Yeah, or any kind of

2326
01:39:21,680 --> 01:39:23,719
Speaker 2: can jam, you know that cornhole substitute.

2327
01:39:23,720 --> 01:39:25,800
Speaker 1: I think you have to. Luke, what are we missing?

2328
01:39:25,960 --> 01:39:27,960
Speaker 4: Probably we're gonna say I would go beer pong or

2329
01:39:27,960 --> 01:39:29,080
Speaker 4: flip cup over cornhole.

2330
01:39:29,160 --> 01:39:31,080
Speaker 1: Flip cup is only if there's gonna be girls, and

2331
01:39:31,080 --> 01:39:32,840
Speaker 1: if it's empty fans, there are going to be no girls.

2332
01:39:32,960 --> 01:39:33,479
Speaker 1: So that's that.

2333
01:39:33,680 --> 01:39:36,400
Speaker 4: We also need the Tyson gravity Bong on stanmdby.

2334
01:39:38,760 --> 01:39:40,560
Speaker 1: Okay, I bully agree with that.

2335
01:39:40,760 --> 01:39:42,120
Speaker 2: I have a chance to get that back.

2336
01:39:42,160 --> 01:39:43,960
Speaker 1: By the way, what do you mean.

2337
01:39:45,000 --> 01:39:46,800
Speaker 2: It's currently in the possession of somebody I know and

2338
01:39:46,880 --> 01:39:48,320
Speaker 2: they were like, this is too much for me.

2339
01:39:49,479 --> 01:39:50,160
Speaker 1: I asked for it.

2340
01:39:50,560 --> 01:39:53,080
Speaker 2: I legit Long Island Luke. Let's be honest. They would

2341
01:39:53,080 --> 01:39:55,439
Speaker 2: have ended up on Luke's office floor unopened for about

2342
01:39:55,439 --> 01:39:56,240
Speaker 2: a decade, right.

2343
01:39:56,280 --> 01:39:58,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, And if you give it to me, I'll smoke

2344
01:39:58,160 --> 01:39:59,639
Speaker 4: it every Saturday on main card Minica.

2345
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:01,120
Speaker 2: How's that for an endorsement?

2346
01:40:01,240 --> 01:40:02,000
Speaker 1: Right there? Hey, fuck you?

2347
01:40:03,920 --> 01:40:06,439
Speaker 2: There are your questions of the week. I hope we

2348
01:40:06,640 --> 01:40:09,240
Speaker 2: answered them to the liking of you. One more segment

2349
01:40:09,320 --> 01:40:10,880
Speaker 2: for you, and arguably it's the best in off of

2350
01:40:10,880 --> 01:40:11,519
Speaker 2: combat sports.

2351
01:40:11,920 --> 01:40:13,200
Speaker 1: Hot Dogs. You have to have hot talks too.

2352
01:40:14,640 --> 01:40:17,439
Speaker 2: How did how did we not even have? We got

2353
01:40:17,479 --> 01:40:19,680
Speaker 2: glizzies and today ship I scholared the internet for the

2354
01:40:19,760 --> 01:40:21,639
Speaker 2: highs and lows good, the bad, the ugly, in between, combats,

2355
01:40:21,640 --> 01:40:24,000
Speaker 2: worts and beyond. We call this species ve cs or

2356
01:40:24,120 --> 01:40:25,200
Speaker 2: have you seen this year.

2357
01:40:34,160 --> 01:40:34,400
Speaker 1: Luke?

2358
01:40:34,720 --> 01:40:37,760
Speaker 2: Last weekend we had misfits boxing on his own and no,

2359
01:40:37,840 --> 01:40:39,599
Speaker 2: I didn't watch it, but I did see this highlight

2360
01:40:39,680 --> 01:40:44,559
Speaker 2: Anthony Taylor, former Bellator fighter who's become a crossover YouTube

2361
01:40:44,560 --> 01:40:48,400
Speaker 2: boxing guy sending Anderson Silva's son Gabriel to hell.

2362
01:40:49,000 --> 01:40:52,479
Speaker 1: Anthony Taylor was just a guy in bellatore prelimbs and

2363
01:40:52,680 --> 01:40:55,759
Speaker 1: he figured out, like Jake Paul did, if I stopped

2364
01:40:55,800 --> 01:40:59,000
Speaker 1: fighting real fighters and I start fighting the crossover again.

2365
01:40:59,120 --> 01:41:01,519
Speaker 2: He thought Tommy Fury three weight classes down and almost

2366
01:41:01,560 --> 01:41:01,840
Speaker 2: beat them.

2367
01:41:01,920 --> 01:41:04,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know this is my point. Like he realized,

2368
01:41:04,720 --> 01:41:06,960
Speaker 1: if I go this route and I use he does

2369
01:41:07,040 --> 01:41:09,200
Speaker 1: have a big mouth, like on purpose, he can have

2370
01:41:09,360 --> 01:41:11,360
Speaker 1: a much better career. Shouts to him.

2371
01:41:11,479 --> 01:41:14,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was it tough to see silver Sun get sound.

2372
01:41:14,320 --> 01:41:15,760
Speaker 1: Like that I did. Don't give a fuck if he

2373
01:41:15,800 --> 01:41:16,280
Speaker 1: lives or doe.

2374
01:41:16,920 --> 01:41:20,400
Speaker 2: Wow, just like that, Randy Cooter. Luke may not show

2375
01:41:20,479 --> 01:41:23,000
Speaker 2: up on our show at noon each week. Shout out

2376
01:41:23,040 --> 01:41:25,160
Speaker 2: to the natural of the legend. But remember I mentioned

2377
01:41:25,200 --> 01:41:27,040
Speaker 2: that weird Twitter exchange he kept having.

2378
01:41:27,160 --> 01:41:27,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a weird one.

2379
01:41:27,960 --> 01:41:29,280
Speaker 2: Here's a piece of that if you missed it.

2380
01:41:29,920 --> 01:41:32,640
Speaker 1: Don't have a burner, bro, real comment like grass on

2381
01:41:32,720 --> 01:41:34,519
Speaker 1: the playing field? What's the issue? She s posted to

2382
01:41:34,560 --> 01:41:39,320
Speaker 1: pick of her bear pussy, I responded, Okay, Randy, you

2383
01:41:39,360 --> 01:41:42,040
Speaker 1: gotta you imagine Captain America is saying that in a movie.

2384
01:41:42,560 --> 01:41:43,599
Speaker 1: I want a hair on her puss.

2385
01:41:43,800 --> 01:41:44,000
Speaker 9: Yeah.

2386
01:41:44,080 --> 01:41:46,800
Speaker 2: I mean, look, there's nothing like a shave scrotum. It's

2387
01:41:46,880 --> 01:41:50,679
Speaker 2: quite breathtaking. You remember that line from Austin Powers. Okay, anyway,

2388
01:41:51,040 --> 01:41:53,400
Speaker 2: I don't care about whether you want any grass.

2389
01:41:53,479 --> 01:41:55,000
Speaker 1: Do you want to see my shaves? Scro to them?

2390
01:41:55,040 --> 01:41:55,160
Speaker 8: Now?

2391
01:41:56,200 --> 01:41:57,960
Speaker 2: Look? Are you still scared of the coronavirus?

2392
01:41:58,760 --> 01:41:59,640
Speaker 1: I mean I don't want it.

2393
01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:01,000
Speaker 2: Let's watch this, sir?

2394
01:42:01,080 --> 01:42:02,520
Speaker 1: Are you scared of the coronavirus?

2395
01:42:03,600 --> 01:42:09,439
Speaker 2: Is this for a portal scene? That's better than talk

2396
01:42:09,520 --> 01:42:11,920
Speaker 2: to you? Gotta spin on that thing. What a reaction

2397
01:42:12,200 --> 01:42:12,479
Speaker 2: right there?

2398
01:42:12,479 --> 01:42:15,400
Speaker 1: Did you see she signed a podcasting deal with Jake Paul.

2399
01:42:15,320 --> 01:42:17,760
Speaker 2: And calls it talk to us. This hasn't been a

2400
01:42:18,120 --> 01:42:20,000
Speaker 2: brilliant rebranding from Haley.

2401
01:42:20,080 --> 01:42:20,880
Speaker 1: Well do you love her?

2402
01:42:21,520 --> 01:42:21,760
Speaker 5: I am?

2403
01:42:21,880 --> 01:42:24,400
Speaker 1: Now I'm now actively rooting for her downfall.

2404
01:42:24,200 --> 01:42:25,519
Speaker 2: And I'm not loving her in the sense that you

2405
01:42:25,560 --> 01:42:28,960
Speaker 2: think I am like, like she's a UFC strawway. No, No,

2406
01:42:29,080 --> 01:42:31,080
Speaker 2: I'm saying like she's wholesome and she's kind of spun

2407
01:42:31,200 --> 01:42:31,799
Speaker 2: this perfectly.

2408
01:42:32,920 --> 01:42:34,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think getting famous. We're talking about

2409
01:42:34,960 --> 01:42:35,559
Speaker 1: how you spit.

2410
01:42:35,479 --> 01:42:38,000
Speaker 2: On cos she lives with her granny because her mom

2411
01:42:38,080 --> 01:42:40,760
Speaker 2: had drug issues, like granny Jane, You don't.

2412
01:42:40,760 --> 01:42:42,599
Speaker 1: You don't follow We've all we've all got issues.

2413
01:42:42,640 --> 01:42:44,799
Speaker 2: You follow the wrizzler Instagram.

2414
01:42:48,120 --> 01:42:51,120
Speaker 1: All right, we're Costco guys. Shut the fuck up.

2415
01:42:52,479 --> 01:42:55,760
Speaker 2: We don't talk politics enough on this show. Right, let's

2416
01:42:55,800 --> 01:42:58,880
Speaker 2: hear from Trump soon called me, as you know, he

2417
01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:04,360
Speaker 2: endorsed me full through great endorsement. If I hear full throated,

2418
01:43:04,479 --> 01:43:06,519
Speaker 2: I think Monica Lewinsky, what's he talking about hair?

2419
01:43:06,800 --> 01:43:08,680
Speaker 1: That's a fair way to that's not an okay. I

2420
01:43:08,760 --> 01:43:11,439
Speaker 1: mean in the age of juvenile internet idiots that I

2421
01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:14,160
Speaker 1: do a podcast with, Yes, that's the thing, But like

2422
01:43:14,320 --> 01:43:18,200
Speaker 1: full throated condemnation or full throated support is just a

2423
01:43:18,280 --> 01:43:19,920
Speaker 1: way of you know, saying it's thank.

2424
01:43:19,800 --> 01:43:21,960
Speaker 2: You English professor at a community college. You'll be in

2425
01:43:22,000 --> 01:43:25,519
Speaker 2: good watching car too. What do you think about Dana

2426
01:43:25,520 --> 01:43:27,799
Speaker 2: going on Fox News and saying Trump is the greatest

2427
01:43:27,840 --> 01:43:30,240
Speaker 2: fighter of all time and forgetting Sean Jones in that

2428
01:43:30,280 --> 01:43:32,080
Speaker 2: account down. Who's coming out of that room, Luke?

2429
01:43:32,120 --> 01:43:33,439
Speaker 1: I mean, do you know how much you gotta love

2430
01:43:33,479 --> 01:43:35,360
Speaker 1: a guy if you're Dana White to rank him over

2431
01:43:35,560 --> 01:43:36,200
Speaker 1: John Jones?

2432
01:43:36,800 --> 01:43:38,639
Speaker 2: Who do you rank higher Trump or RFK Jr?

2433
01:43:39,400 --> 01:43:42,400
Speaker 1: In terms of what like mentally efficient?

2434
01:43:42,520 --> 01:43:44,280
Speaker 2: Or let's go to the videotape something that has been

2435
01:43:44,320 --> 01:43:48,120
Speaker 2: bothered ma is RFK Jr. Just look a little strange?

2436
01:43:48,120 --> 01:43:50,400
Speaker 1: And it finally hit me. No one's used to seeing

2437
01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:51,840
Speaker 1: an old Kennedy.

2438
01:43:54,200 --> 01:43:57,320
Speaker 2: Shout out to Ted by the way, great senator, bad

2439
01:43:57,400 --> 01:43:57,920
Speaker 2: fucking date.

2440
01:43:58,160 --> 01:43:59,400
Speaker 1: That's great. Who did that?

2441
01:43:59,520 --> 01:44:04,560
Speaker 2: Joe Dennis from Bill Hicks. Yeah, Luke, we know that

2442
01:44:04,600 --> 01:44:06,439
Speaker 2: you're a great dad and you take Tukey to the park.

2443
01:44:06,520 --> 01:44:08,760
Speaker 2: But it's got hidden camera footage of it. Let's watch.

2444
01:44:10,520 --> 01:44:11,360
Speaker 8: I'm higher than you.

2445
01:44:13,360 --> 01:44:14,479
Speaker 2: I seriously doubt that.

2446
01:44:18,360 --> 01:44:22,560
Speaker 1: Come on, come clean THEO, come clean, I'll come original.

2447
01:44:22,920 --> 01:44:24,840
Speaker 2: Hulk Hogan's been back in the news because he was

2448
01:44:24,880 --> 01:44:26,240
Speaker 2: on the Logan Paul podcast.

2449
01:44:26,600 --> 01:44:27,759
Speaker 1: Let's hear it more inward.

2450
01:44:28,560 --> 01:44:30,800
Speaker 9: If Chrispin Walking do the crap he did and the

2451
01:44:30,880 --> 01:44:33,200
Speaker 9: fans still love him, you know, they're very forgiven. You know,

2452
01:44:33,240 --> 01:44:36,479
Speaker 9: I've made some major mistakes in my personal life. Yeah,

2453
01:44:36,600 --> 01:44:39,240
Speaker 9: they're very very forgiven, but they forgive you.

2454
01:44:39,360 --> 01:44:44,160
Speaker 2: But what Terry just said was that to justify his

2455
01:44:44,360 --> 01:44:46,280
Speaker 2: use of the N word and to prove to us

2456
01:44:46,479 --> 01:44:49,479
Speaker 2: how forgiving wrestling fans are. He's trying to make the

2457
01:44:49,560 --> 01:44:52,120
Speaker 2: case that if Chris bin Wi murder suicide him and

2458
01:44:52,200 --> 01:44:55,720
Speaker 2: his family, the fans still forgave him. So that's what

2459
01:44:55,920 --> 01:44:56,920
Speaker 2: wrestling fans are all.

2460
01:44:56,960 --> 01:45:02,840
Speaker 1: I understand this. Are there pro wrestling fans who have forgiven.

2461
01:45:03,000 --> 01:45:06,479
Speaker 2: I was forgiven. There's a small minority of conspiracy theories

2462
01:45:06,560 --> 01:45:08,320
Speaker 2: that believe Kevin Sullivan, who used to be married to

2463
01:45:08,320 --> 01:45:11,200
Speaker 2: ben WA's wife Nancy before this, maybe had to roll.

2464
01:45:11,280 --> 01:45:14,240
Speaker 2: Sullivan recently passed away, by the way, Who knows there

2465
01:45:14,280 --> 01:45:17,360
Speaker 2: are people that that are like, it's edgy to play

2466
01:45:17,439 --> 01:45:18,880
Speaker 2: nine to eleven jokes and have you seen this ship?

2467
01:45:19,040 --> 01:45:20,599
Speaker 2: A lot of people make you know Edgi ben wad

2468
01:45:20,680 --> 01:45:22,519
Speaker 2: jokes from the standpoint of he was such a great

2469
01:45:22,560 --> 01:45:24,840
Speaker 2: wrestler that they don't want to forget him because of this.

2470
01:45:25,040 --> 01:45:27,360
Speaker 1: Okay, so let me ask a question, irrespective of him

2471
01:45:27,400 --> 01:45:30,240
Speaker 1: being a murderous monster, how good was he as a

2472
01:45:30,280 --> 01:45:31,240
Speaker 1: pro wrestler.

2473
01:45:32,160 --> 01:45:34,800
Speaker 2: H physically, technically, as good as it gets, as good

2474
01:45:34,800 --> 01:45:37,400
Speaker 2: as it gets historically, was great. Forget all that, you know,

2475
01:45:37,479 --> 01:45:41,479
Speaker 2: didn't have great charisma, wasn't a great wrestler. He was

2476
01:45:41,520 --> 01:45:43,679
Speaker 2: a wrestler's wrestler.

2477
01:45:43,680 --> 01:45:46,000
Speaker 1: He was you know, a yeah, I don't know being

2478
01:45:46,080 --> 01:45:49,759
Speaker 1: like listen, guys, I didn't murder my wife and child,

2479
01:45:50,600 --> 01:45:53,120
Speaker 1: So you have to forgive me for the N word usage.

2480
01:45:53,439 --> 01:45:54,479
Speaker 1: That's an argument you can make.

2481
01:45:54,800 --> 01:45:56,519
Speaker 2: Hey, let's check in on the whites, Luke, you love

2482
01:45:56,640 --> 01:45:57,400
Speaker 2: to watch what happens to that?

2483
01:46:00,080 --> 01:46:00,200
Speaker 8: Oh?

2484
01:46:00,320 --> 01:46:01,240
Speaker 1: You fucking dumb?

2485
01:46:02,760 --> 01:46:04,840
Speaker 2: There you go? How many times have we seen this lesson?

2486
01:46:04,880 --> 01:46:05,759
Speaker 1: That's a concussion?

2487
01:46:05,840 --> 01:46:07,880
Speaker 2: And have you seen this ship? If you're white, don't

2488
01:46:08,000 --> 01:46:09,960
Speaker 2: jump off the roof into the pool.

2489
01:46:09,760 --> 01:46:11,439
Speaker 1: Okay, once you hit about the fucking cement.

2490
01:46:11,520 --> 01:46:18,439
Speaker 2: More so, drunk white girls make great clips on this. Hey, look,

2491
01:46:18,439 --> 01:46:20,719
Speaker 2: would you be interested in reincarnating as that sign?

2492
01:46:20,760 --> 01:46:24,320
Speaker 1: After this? I would probably smell it? Oh?

2493
01:46:24,479 --> 01:46:28,479
Speaker 2: God, just made a gross statement. Even grosser, let's keep

2494
01:46:28,520 --> 01:46:29,479
Speaker 2: going with these white like.

2495
01:46:29,560 --> 01:46:39,640
Speaker 1: You wouldn't you fucking creepy could hit him with that

2496
01:46:39,760 --> 01:46:40,639
Speaker 1: fifty first?

2497
01:46:41,040 --> 01:46:42,120
Speaker 2: Who's parks there?

2498
01:46:42,240 --> 01:46:42,519
Speaker 3: Dude?

2499
01:46:42,600 --> 01:46:43,320
Speaker 9: Come on? Yeah?

2500
01:46:43,560 --> 01:46:45,479
Speaker 1: Point I mean you had that comment.

2501
01:46:45,800 --> 01:46:47,519
Speaker 2: Remember at the Little League grown up there there'd be

2502
01:46:47,600 --> 01:46:52,560
Speaker 2: like parking spaces beyond the home run fence. And we

2503
01:46:52,720 --> 01:46:53,879
Speaker 2: got another white person.

2504
01:46:53,720 --> 01:46:53,960
Speaker 1: For you.

2505
01:46:58,640 --> 01:46:59,000
Speaker 5: To do that.

2506
01:47:02,040 --> 01:47:04,160
Speaker 1: One more time, one more time like that Bill's Mafia

2507
01:47:04,240 --> 01:47:11,120
Speaker 1: and Bill's mofy. Look at this fat buck. Look.

2508
01:47:11,160 --> 01:47:13,080
Speaker 2: I think one of the best growing sub segments is

2509
01:47:13,160 --> 01:47:14,760
Speaker 2: t shirts of the week in the show. All right,

2510
01:47:14,840 --> 01:47:15,559
Speaker 2: let's see what we got.

2511
01:47:17,400 --> 01:47:26,559
Speaker 1: Okay, it's so good. Okay, that's so good. I can

2512
01:47:26,640 --> 01:47:30,360
Speaker 1: appreciate that he can laugh at it. Is that photoshoppers?

2513
01:47:30,360 --> 01:47:34,160
Speaker 1: That really I think, Louke Sata, that's real. Right, you're

2514
01:47:34,200 --> 01:47:36,280
Speaker 1: the one who gives me the ship. By the way,

2515
01:47:36,320 --> 01:47:41,080
Speaker 1: look at his hat six ton so good.

2516
01:47:41,160 --> 01:47:42,960
Speaker 2: All right, let's keep it going. Remember everybody had those

2517
01:47:43,360 --> 01:47:46,639
Speaker 2: cheeky Cox hats in high school the South Carolina. Yeah,

2518
01:47:47,760 --> 01:47:49,240
Speaker 2: this is somebody's start Saturdays.

2519
01:47:49,240 --> 01:47:53,719
Speaker 1: Are Jesus Christ? I see what is going to happen

2520
01:47:54,120 --> 01:47:54,639
Speaker 1: in my life?

2521
01:47:54,720 --> 01:47:58,519
Speaker 2: Yeah? Dm her, let's go over to uh bonus car

2522
01:47:58,680 --> 01:47:59,400
Speaker 2: decal of the.

2523
01:47:59,400 --> 01:48:02,240
Speaker 1: Week clip Taurus.

2524
01:48:02,520 --> 01:48:04,640
Speaker 2: Oh, that's finally found it.

2525
01:48:04,840 --> 01:48:05,120
Speaker 6: You know what.

2526
01:48:05,520 --> 01:48:09,640
Speaker 1: That's that's the person you gotta marry that we have.

2527
01:48:09,680 --> 01:48:13,680
Speaker 2: A bonus rate. That hat Luke, call me.

2528
01:48:14,160 --> 01:48:16,479
Speaker 1: I can't read it because I'm call me tackle Bell

2529
01:48:16,760 --> 01:48:18,519
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna destroy your asshole.

2530
01:48:21,800 --> 01:48:25,599
Speaker 2: The censors just gave me an unscrupulous look over there. Wow, Okay,

2531
01:48:26,280 --> 01:48:28,800
Speaker 2: did you get it past the North Korea? Let's go

2532
01:48:28,880 --> 01:48:41,400
Speaker 2: to the power Wheels mudpit hair. Let's see what haven't No, No,

2533
01:48:41,640 --> 01:48:43,800
Speaker 2: we have witnessed to death on this show before. But

2534
01:48:43,880 --> 01:48:46,000
Speaker 2: as you can hear, she's still alive. Look, she's still alive.

2535
01:48:46,439 --> 01:48:48,559
Speaker 2: We have witness I believe two deaths and two dicks

2536
01:48:48,560 --> 01:48:49,960
Speaker 2: we've seen in this segment.

2537
01:48:50,280 --> 01:48:51,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, that one poorly.

2538
01:48:51,800 --> 01:48:55,560
Speaker 2: Wow, all right, let's keep it going. Luke hit the

2539
01:48:55,600 --> 01:48:56,120
Speaker 2: batting cage.

2540
01:48:59,360 --> 01:49:01,160
Speaker 1: I mean we're why are you standing there?

2541
01:49:02,479 --> 01:49:02,519
Speaker 4: So?

2542
01:49:04,240 --> 01:49:06,400
Speaker 1: As I understand, I don't know how this is being used,

2543
01:49:06,439 --> 01:49:08,320
Speaker 1: but like in Colombian Spanish, it means like my first

2544
01:49:08,479 --> 01:49:09,519
Speaker 1: like big like wound.

2545
01:49:09,920 --> 01:49:12,840
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, you're not coming back from that wound. Let's

2546
01:49:12,920 --> 01:49:16,320
Speaker 2: check in on regional mma, Luke, where anything can happen.

2547
01:49:17,120 --> 01:49:19,320
Speaker 2: What do you think about twelve six elbows to the

2548
01:49:19,439 --> 01:49:20,519
Speaker 2: actual rim.

2549
01:49:21,640 --> 01:49:22,880
Speaker 1: These are to the butt muscle.

2550
01:49:24,080 --> 01:49:25,800
Speaker 2: I think he might hit some grundle on that last

2551
01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:26,120
Speaker 2: one there.

2552
01:49:26,160 --> 01:49:28,000
Speaker 1: That's very I think you just have to forfeit if

2553
01:49:28,000 --> 01:49:28,479
Speaker 1: this happens.

2554
01:49:28,640 --> 01:49:30,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, well what do you you know? Shoeies

2555
01:49:30,520 --> 01:49:33,639
Speaker 2: were gross enough with tui vasa. Check out this regional heavyweight.

2556
01:49:39,920 --> 01:49:41,559
Speaker 1: Look at this garbage pail.

2557
01:49:42,080 --> 01:49:46,479
Speaker 2: He's drinking from an athletic support, Luke, presumably when he just.

2558
01:49:46,560 --> 01:49:50,080
Speaker 1: Wore somebody hose him down and de louse, Luke.

2559
01:49:50,160 --> 01:49:53,320
Speaker 2: You can never be too careful out in them streets,

2560
01:49:53,439 --> 01:49:55,400
Speaker 2: especially when it comes to road rage. No, this isn't

2561
01:49:55,400 --> 01:49:57,160
Speaker 2: an Audisnia video, but check this out.

2562
01:50:00,960 --> 01:50:13,880
Speaker 3: Okay, what the fuck?

2563
01:50:14,040 --> 01:50:19,360
Speaker 2: No one died? Hey, we walk up, we got we

2564
01:50:19,439 --> 01:50:19,760
Speaker 2: walk off?

2565
01:50:19,840 --> 01:50:21,040
Speaker 7: Who dot consad.

2566
01:50:22,040 --> 01:50:28,760
Speaker 2: Doesn't end though? The car that ran through everybody got

2567
01:50:28,840 --> 01:50:37,679
Speaker 2: a hit and flipped. That's called, Luke.

2568
01:50:41,240 --> 01:50:41,719
Speaker 3: I think.

2569
01:50:43,400 --> 01:50:48,800
Speaker 2: Damn all right, Uh well that was disturbing. Hey, check

2570
01:50:48,840 --> 01:50:50,559
Speaker 2: out the wrap on this cyber truck, Luke.

2571
01:50:54,200 --> 01:50:55,320
Speaker 1: Dude, what the fuck was that?

2572
01:50:56,520 --> 01:50:59,360
Speaker 2: I think the third death and imcare history potentially.

2573
01:50:59,520 --> 01:51:02,040
Speaker 1: Dude, it's just them guy falling in traffic? What the

2574
01:51:02,160 --> 01:51:02,640
Speaker 1: fuck is that?

2575
01:51:04,400 --> 01:51:07,439
Speaker 2: All right, it's time to get Glizzie with it. You

2576
01:51:07,479 --> 01:51:08,599
Speaker 2: ever hear spaghetti hot dogs?

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Speaker 1: I'm not totally white trash, Okay, hear me out.

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01:51:12,680 --> 01:51:15,080
Speaker 11: The best part about boiling hot dogs is that you

2579
01:51:15,200 --> 01:51:18,680
Speaker 11: get hot dog flavored water. Maybe it's not the best thing,

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01:51:19,040 --> 01:51:22,920
Speaker 11: but a spaghetti hot dog that, my friends, is the

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01:51:23,000 --> 01:51:23,360
Speaker 11: best thing.

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01:51:23,439 --> 01:51:23,720
Speaker 9: All right.

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01:51:23,720 --> 01:51:24,200
Speaker 2: Here's the thing.

2584
01:51:25,120 --> 01:51:27,799
Speaker 4: Now, I can't take full credit for this concept.

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01:51:28,080 --> 01:51:30,760
Speaker 2: I saw I have long but baked beans on a

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01:51:30,800 --> 01:51:32,720
Speaker 2: hot dog with ketchup already on it, like it's the

2587
01:51:32,840 --> 01:51:34,160
Speaker 2: power move of power moves.

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01:51:34,200 --> 01:51:37,280
Speaker 1: Okay, you are a filthy discussion, There's no question about it.

2589
01:51:37,840 --> 01:51:40,280
Speaker 2: That is next level spaghetti hot dog.

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01:51:40,400 --> 01:51:43,960
Speaker 1: That is elite raccoon. That is what that is.

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01:51:45,479 --> 01:51:47,639
Speaker 2: If you need to justify the use of hot dogs

2592
01:51:47,640 --> 01:51:50,080
Speaker 2: in your diet despite your fears of getting a black liver, right,

2593
01:51:50,200 --> 01:51:51,840
Speaker 2: like me, listen to this man. I don't give a

2594
01:51:51,960 --> 01:51:55,200
Speaker 2: fuck if this hot dog is bad for my micro bier.

2595
01:51:55,760 --> 01:51:58,200
Speaker 2: I used to smoke meth off of a broken light bulb.

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01:52:00,280 --> 01:52:03,439
Speaker 1: It's delicious. Don't think I'm pussing.

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01:52:05,680 --> 01:52:06,479
Speaker 2: It could be my dad.

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01:52:06,520 --> 01:52:09,200
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding. That should be an

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01:52:09,240 --> 01:52:10,759
Speaker 1: official seven to eleven commercials.

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01:52:11,040 --> 01:52:13,200
Speaker 2: That really should be. All right, let that sink in.

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01:52:13,360 --> 01:52:14,960
Speaker 2: Let this thing sink into luk care.

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01:52:15,000 --> 01:52:17,320
Speaker 1: We just say eight billion people in the world, eight

2603
01:52:17,400 --> 01:52:18,160
Speaker 1: billion people, I know.

2604
01:52:18,280 --> 01:52:19,080
Speaker 2: Let that sink in.

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01:52:19,560 --> 01:52:27,479
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I hope all of them die in a

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01:52:27,520 --> 01:52:28,000
Speaker 1: house there.

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01:52:29,560 --> 01:52:31,679
Speaker 2: Uh, your worst tat of the week, Luke, I hope

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01:52:31,680 --> 01:52:32,160
Speaker 2: you rated it.

2609
01:52:34,560 --> 01:52:37,559
Speaker 1: Gee, dude, we have seen a lot of male titties today.

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01:52:37,640 --> 01:52:42,840
Speaker 1: Have you noticed that? All right? Uh?

2611
01:52:42,880 --> 01:52:44,439
Speaker 2: Do you like Chicago has the city? I know Ray

2612
01:52:44,479 --> 01:52:45,000
Speaker 2: Flores does.

2613
01:52:45,240 --> 01:52:46,719
Speaker 1: Actually, don think Chicago's awesome.

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01:52:47,840 --> 01:52:50,040
Speaker 9: You just moved to Chicago and then you can see this.

2615
01:52:51,960 --> 01:52:53,680
Speaker 10: If you ever said just moved to New York and

2616
01:52:53,760 --> 01:52:55,640
Speaker 10: you can see this, I mean, if you is incredible

2617
01:52:55,720 --> 01:52:56,040
Speaker 10: right now?

2618
01:52:56,160 --> 01:53:03,280
Speaker 2: Oh shit, oh my god, oh my Well, we had

2619
01:53:03,320 --> 01:53:07,960
Speaker 2: a good run, Luke. We need something quick to take

2620
01:53:08,040 --> 01:53:10,360
Speaker 2: that taste away. I think I've got the right flavor.

2621
01:53:12,960 --> 01:53:15,920
Speaker 1: Two in the pink, on in the stink.

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01:53:16,320 --> 01:53:17,639
Speaker 2: That's the ship of the week, Luke.

2623
01:53:17,800 --> 01:53:22,360
Speaker 1: I gotta say, that's an ant from you. That's and

2624
01:53:22,439 --> 01:53:24,280
Speaker 1: I don't think you were too high when you made it.

2625
01:53:24,880 --> 01:53:25,960
Speaker 1: I could tell there's a little more.

2626
01:53:25,880 --> 01:53:28,599
Speaker 2: Thought process log Island, Luke. Do you agree with this rating?

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01:53:29,240 --> 01:53:30,559
Speaker 4: Yeah? I thought that was a great bet.

2628
01:53:30,680 --> 01:53:31,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, this was a good one.

2629
01:53:31,560 --> 01:53:33,639
Speaker 2: We only had two deaths, so it was good. That's

2630
01:53:33,760 --> 01:53:36,120
Speaker 2: the show or the damn week? Can we announce something

2631
01:53:36,160 --> 01:53:36,759
Speaker 2: about Monday?

2632
01:53:36,960 --> 01:53:39,960
Speaker 1: No? Uh? Yeah, I think if what's on you, because

2633
01:53:39,960 --> 01:53:41,280
Speaker 1: you're the one who actually booked it, So.

2634
01:53:42,120 --> 01:53:46,240
Speaker 2: Randy Couture Monday. Of course, Monday's Morning Combat will be

2635
01:53:46,280 --> 01:53:48,360
Speaker 2: a big one. Obviously, we will be previewing what is

2636
01:53:48,439 --> 01:53:49,200
Speaker 2: a loaded we.

2637
01:53:49,880 --> 01:53:51,479
Speaker 1: React a bunch of stuff that happened.

2638
01:53:51,360 --> 01:53:54,519
Speaker 2: Reacting to this weekend Brady versus Burns, maybe the biggest

2639
01:53:54,560 --> 01:53:57,600
Speaker 2: of them all, and previewing Canelo versus Berlina in that

2640
01:53:57,640 --> 01:54:00,760
Speaker 2: big PBC pay per view on Mexican Independence Day and

2641
01:54:01,400 --> 01:54:06,160
Speaker 2: the damn UFC sphere the same night, riodd Sison presents

2642
01:54:06,920 --> 01:54:10,400
Speaker 2: UFC Nocha and maybe even that Bellator card from Ireland.

2643
01:54:10,520 --> 01:54:12,799
Speaker 2: We will also be having San Diego.

2644
01:54:13,320 --> 01:54:14,640
Speaker 1: Oh you mean previewing.

2645
01:54:15,600 --> 01:54:21,400
Speaker 2: Max Holloway on Monday's Morning Combat. Get freaking ready.

2646
01:54:21,240 --> 01:54:23,160
Speaker 1: For that Max Holloway At one pm.

2647
01:54:23,439 --> 01:54:26,920
Speaker 2: Max Holloway to be interviewed by Elia Tuporia's biggest fan.

2648
01:54:27,040 --> 01:54:29,120
Speaker 1: This will be something who said I wasn't a Max fan?

2649
01:54:29,240 --> 01:54:30,679
Speaker 2: We love Max, We love Max.

2650
01:54:30,720 --> 01:54:34,000
Speaker 1: If you don't like Max Holloway, something is absolutely wrong.

2651
01:54:34,120 --> 01:54:37,520
Speaker 2: You're an absolute pos If that's the case, everybody likes Max.

2652
01:54:37,840 --> 01:54:40,560
Speaker 2: Next week, Luke I am launching the Brian Campbell Experience

2653
01:54:40,600 --> 01:54:43,080
Speaker 2: on YouTube. But she would kind of disaster that turns

2654
01:54:43,120 --> 01:54:48,000
Speaker 2: into all right. Also, I will be in Las Vegas

2655
01:54:48,040 --> 01:54:50,400
Speaker 2: for Canelo Social Tuesday.

2656
01:54:50,480 --> 01:54:51,680
Speaker 1: Tuesday. Oh yeah, a long week.

2657
01:54:51,920 --> 01:54:53,720
Speaker 2: So I got a big couple weeks I'll be in Vegas.

2658
01:54:54,200 --> 01:54:54,480
Speaker 1: I can't.

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01:54:54,960 --> 01:54:56,960
Speaker 2: I wish you could, but I understand. I'll be in

2660
01:54:57,040 --> 01:54:59,720
Speaker 2: Vegas hosting some events for PBC. We'll have police f

2661
01:55:00,080 --> 01:55:01,920
Speaker 2: you show will have some good content from all the

2662
01:55:02,000 --> 01:55:05,120
Speaker 2: smoke fight coming your way. And then I'll be back

2663
01:55:05,440 --> 01:55:09,000
Speaker 2: New York here for the week following Monday after and

2664
01:55:09,120 --> 01:55:11,880
Speaker 2: then as soon as we end MK on Monday, I

2665
01:55:11,960 --> 01:55:13,200
Speaker 2: get on the jet to Dublin.

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01:55:13,320 --> 01:55:13,560
Speaker 1: Wow.

2667
01:55:13,600 --> 01:55:17,080
Speaker 2: So good times, great oldies. Very excited about what's coming

2668
01:55:17,120 --> 01:55:17,600
Speaker 2: in the future.

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01:55:17,880 --> 01:55:19,720
Speaker 1: I tell you what's happening in Columbia right now. That's

2670
01:55:19,880 --> 01:55:22,360
Speaker 1: like making me a little bit nervous. So because my

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01:55:22,400 --> 01:55:24,600
Speaker 1: wife is gone and my wife, my wife's business trip

2672
01:55:24,680 --> 01:55:26,520
Speaker 1: is ten days, ten days.

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01:55:26,320 --> 01:55:26,720
Speaker 9: She has to go.

2674
01:55:26,800 --> 01:55:28,600
Speaker 1: It's a really long So she just got a big

2675
01:55:29,240 --> 01:55:30,720
Speaker 1: new job, a big promotion.

2676
01:55:30,920 --> 01:55:32,080
Speaker 2: She was like the first big like.

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01:55:32,280 --> 01:55:35,080
Speaker 1: It's it's her new company's biggest event of the year.

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01:55:35,160 --> 01:55:36,560
Speaker 1: That's awesome, but she has to be there for a

2679
01:55:36,640 --> 01:55:39,000
Speaker 1: long long time. And so I don't have any help

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01:55:39,040 --> 01:55:40,720
Speaker 1: at home, and I have to come here on Mondays.

2681
01:55:41,040 --> 01:55:43,480
Speaker 1: So we said, hey, let's fly Aboila up from Columbia. Yes,

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01:55:44,080 --> 01:55:45,760
Speaker 1: she agreed. I paid for her ticket. It was great.

2683
01:55:46,600 --> 01:55:50,360
Speaker 1: There is a strike happening in the entire country right now.

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01:55:51,240 --> 01:55:54,280
Speaker 1: They raised the I think the current government raised the

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01:55:54,360 --> 01:55:58,520
Speaker 1: price of diesel. All the truckers with produce the whole

2686
01:55:58,560 --> 01:56:01,560
Speaker 1: bit have blocked all all of their trucks on any

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01:56:01,800 --> 01:56:04,000
Speaker 1: route in and out of all the major cities.

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01:56:04,000 --> 01:56:05,720
Speaker 2: It's an insurrection sort of.

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01:56:06,120 --> 01:56:08,480
Speaker 1: If you want to get to the fucking airport in Bogota,

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01:56:08,600 --> 01:56:10,400
Speaker 1: you have to either take a moped or you have

2691
01:56:10,520 --> 01:56:13,040
Speaker 1: to drag your shit on foot. And you might be like,

2692
01:56:13,120 --> 01:56:15,200
Speaker 1: why don't the cops clear? And I'm like, this is

2693
01:56:15,240 --> 01:56:17,920
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like private security is a big thing

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01:56:17,960 --> 01:56:20,720
Speaker 1: in Colombia, but like the state having an apparatus to

2695
01:56:20,800 --> 01:56:23,160
Speaker 1: do this, they don't really they can't. They can't fight this,

2696
01:56:23,400 --> 01:56:25,800
Speaker 1: so they have to work out some negotiating settlement. My

2697
01:56:25,880 --> 01:56:27,640
Speaker 1: point being is a Boeila's like, how the fuck am

2698
01:56:27,680 --> 01:56:29,880
Speaker 1: I going to get to the airport? Our hope is

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01:56:29,920 --> 01:56:32,680
Speaker 1: that the government and the truckers come to some kind

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01:56:32,680 --> 01:56:35,200
Speaker 1: of an arrangement because Otherwise your boy is going to

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01:56:35,240 --> 01:56:38,520
Speaker 1: be stuck with all the twoky duties, which means that

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01:56:38,720 --> 01:56:40,520
Speaker 1: next Monday I might have to bring her to New

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01:56:40,640 --> 01:56:43,320
Speaker 1: York because I have no way to take her to school.

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01:56:43,360 --> 01:56:45,080
Speaker 2: Okay, if you left her in the studio with Ken

2705
01:56:45,160 --> 01:56:48,000
Speaker 2: the sound guy, yeah, and he introduced her to vaping,

2706
01:56:48,000 --> 01:56:48,960
Speaker 2: would you be upset about that?

2707
01:56:50,880 --> 01:56:51,520
Speaker 1: Isn't kill you.

2708
01:56:51,640 --> 01:56:54,600
Speaker 2: He's like, this is this is this is pay Okay.

2709
01:56:55,240 --> 01:56:56,840
Speaker 2: Now do you think that she would be okay in

2710
01:56:56,920 --> 01:56:58,240
Speaker 2: this in the control or.

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01:56:58,320 --> 01:56:59,880
Speaker 1: She would be fine, which I don't want to do.

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01:57:00,000 --> 01:57:02,360
Speaker 2: I want tould she joined the show and break things

2713
01:57:02,400 --> 01:57:02,960
Speaker 2: down with us.

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01:57:04,000 --> 01:57:06,400
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna put her on camera much anymore. I

2715
01:57:06,440 --> 01:57:09,040
Speaker 1: don't want her. She should be able to make those

2716
01:57:09,120 --> 01:57:10,480
Speaker 1: choices now. And when she was a little baby, I

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01:57:10,520 --> 01:57:12,400
Speaker 1: didn't care. Yeah, but now she's a kid. I don't

2718
01:57:12,440 --> 01:57:13,440
Speaker 1: want my kid on camera.

2719
01:57:13,320 --> 01:57:15,560
Speaker 2: All right. When you were talking about derangement and insurrection,

2720
01:57:15,640 --> 01:57:17,560
Speaker 2: I thought you were going Jesse on Fire's direction.

2721
01:57:17,800 --> 01:57:20,720
Speaker 1: So you had an interesting experience, was the hell of

2722
01:57:20,760 --> 01:57:21,160
Speaker 1: a debate?

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01:57:21,320 --> 01:57:21,520
Speaker 3: Yeah?

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01:57:21,760 --> 01:57:21,960
Speaker 9: Yeah?

2725
01:57:22,440 --> 01:57:25,280
Speaker 1: Anyway, So wish me luck that the impass in Columbia

2726
01:57:25,400 --> 01:57:27,120
Speaker 1: gets fixed because this hop.

2727
01:57:27,040 --> 01:57:29,600
Speaker 2: So or you'll be maybe you'll stay in the control

2728
01:57:29,680 --> 01:57:30,360
Speaker 2: room and babysit.

2729
01:57:30,440 --> 01:57:32,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I might have to be Maybe you and can

2730
01:57:32,480 --> 01:57:32,880
Speaker 1: do the show.

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01:57:33,880 --> 01:57:36,160
Speaker 2: That's the future. Thank you so much for watching. Please

2732
01:57:36,320 --> 01:57:39,000
Speaker 2: like and subscribe if you want more Morning Combat in

2733
01:57:39,040 --> 01:57:44,280
Speaker 2: your life. Stay fricking tuned, alright, stay tuned, Stay the

2734
01:57:44,400 --> 01:57:47,320
Speaker 2: fuck tuned. All right, there you go, buy our merchan

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Speaker 2: at Morningcombat Dot store ten percent off right now. Using

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Speaker 2: the live ten you can dress and look exactly like me.

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01:57:53,680 --> 01:57:54,440
Speaker 2: So why wouldn't you?

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01:57:54,600 --> 01:57:54,920
Speaker 1: Right there?

2739
01:57:55,560 --> 01:57:56,920
Speaker 2: What it's time to be alive. I hope you guys

2740
01:57:56,960 --> 01:57:58,720
Speaker 2: are doing well out there. Thank you so much, thanks

2741
01:57:58,760 --> 01:58:01,360
Speaker 2: to our great team here in Metalwarks Videos. Any other

2742
01:58:01,400 --> 01:58:02,240
Speaker 2: blessings you want to get.

2743
01:58:02,160 --> 01:58:03,800
Speaker 1: Makes everyone who watched, because I know we had an

2744
01:58:03,840 --> 01:58:06,160
Speaker 1: abnormal time and an abnormal day. We appreciate it. But

2745
01:58:06,320 --> 01:58:10,480
Speaker 1: back to normal routine Monday, Big show, Max Holloway can't.

2746
01:58:10,320 --> 01:58:12,760
Speaker 2: Wait, can't wait to bang tooy. That's the plan. We're

2747
01:58:12,800 --> 01:58:15,240
Speaker 2: gonna be there. Thank you. Take care of yourself this weekend.

2748
01:58:15,400 --> 01:58:18,360
Speaker 2: Enjoy the fights, folks. Okay, put yourself first. We're gonna

2749
01:58:18,360 --> 01:58:21,240
Speaker 2: get through this together on BC. That's LT. We're out

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01:58:21,280 --> 01:58:21,480
Speaker 2: of here.