1 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: Today's guest on Poppin' Packs is a big one, a 2 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: seven time All Star, three time champ, Hall of Famer 3 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: in two thousand and three, and of course one of 4 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 1: the best nicknames in NBA history from the Showtime Lakers. 5 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 2: It's big game, James. 6 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: Worthy seeing him there, We are connecting, We are connect 7 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: there he is. 8 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 3: What's happening, James? 9 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: How are you doing? Man? 10 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 3: Good? How are you? 11 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 2: Thanks very much for joining me today. 12 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 3: Pleasure brother. 13 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 2: How was the golf course? 14 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,639 Speaker 3: Uh? You know, I decreased the deathicit a little bit. 15 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 3: I'm still in the hole. It was fun. 16 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: Well, hopefully we're going to have some fun here today 17 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: because this is this is a fun segment I do 18 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: with some former players, and you're the biggest name I've 19 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: got so fast. So I'm excited to hear some stories 20 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: about what it was like to be on the Showtime Lakers. 21 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 3: Well, you know, it was a long time ago, but 22 00:00:58,400 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 3: I think I can remember. 23 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: Well, I've come dressed with the part. Anyway, here's my show. Okay, 24 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: I like that. I like that, And not only that, 25 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: I've got I've got a little something else here that 26 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: you might like as well. 27 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 2: You've probably seen this. 28 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:14,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go. Now you're making me feel good. 29 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: Well, that post is a pretty old one, but it's 30 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: a classic. I love it, so it's one of my favorites. 31 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 2: All right. 32 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: Well, the way this works is, I've got a pack 33 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: of old cards here. I'll show the NBA hoops here 34 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: from I think nineteen ninety one, and I will open 35 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: these up. I'll give you a few clues. Hopefully you 36 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: can guess the player and tell us a few stories. 37 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 3: I'll try my best. 38 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 2: Okay, let's go, let's go. Let's see what we got here. 39 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 2: Hang on, hang on, hang on? All right, oops, okay, 40 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: first guy here. 41 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: He was a sharp shooting guard, most known for his 42 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: time in the Phoenix Suns. He also played for the 43 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: Denver Nuggets and then the Portland Trailblazers. 44 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 2: At the end he was an All Star. 45 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: In fact, he was a Carolina guy too, but before 46 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: your time there. Carolina came out a couple of years 47 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: before you did, shooting gud number. 48 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 3: Six, and he played at Phoenix. 49 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 2: He played in Phoenix, and he played in Visitor. 50 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 3: Is this would it? Nickname be the Greyhound Walter Davis? 51 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: That that is very good. The Greyhound Walter Davis. 52 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 3: There he is yeah. I used. 53 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 4: I used to go to uh North Carolina basketball camp 54 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 4: when I was like fourteen thirteen years old, and Walter 55 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 4: Davis was one of my favorite players on the team. 56 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 4: He and Phil Ford. So when you said Phoenix sharp shooter, 57 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 4: I knew right away that it was Walter Davis. 58 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was. 59 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 2: He played pretty latent his career as well, if I 60 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 2: remember correctly. 61 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he ended up in Denver and then 62 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 4: went on to be a broadcaster for the Denver Nuggets, 63 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 4: and then I think he ended up in Washington, d C. 64 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 2: Right right, nice, all right, one for one good start here. 65 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: Okay, this next guy you will remember, no doubt, because 66 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: for this team. 67 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 2: He's playing for the Houston Rockets. 68 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,239 Speaker 1: But in nineteen eighty seven he had a huge game 69 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: against the Lakers in the playoffs. He had fifty in 70 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: the playoffs in one game staffed off elimination ninety seven. 71 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:19,959 Speaker 1: Nineteen eighty seven, eighty seven, yeah, eighty seven or the 72 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: Houston Rockets. No, no, So he's playing for the Houston 73 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:24,399 Speaker 1: Rockets on this card, but it was at the time 74 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: with the Golden State Warriors he had fifty one and 75 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: in one game. I think you guys are up three 76 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: love in the series and he staffed off elimination. 77 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 4: From Gastonia, North Carolina. Played at Hunahus High School. Yeah, 78 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 4: and the only reason that I never won a high 79 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 4: school state championship was because of my main man. 80 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 3: I used to go to church with this guy, Sleepy Floyd. 81 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 2: There you go, there you go. That's right, Sleepy Floyd. 82 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: What what do you remember about that game where he 83 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: had the fifty, Like, were you guys sort of like 84 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: ready to go home and just took your fut off 85 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: the gastle? 86 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember distinctively. 87 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 4: We were up three to oh and uh we were, 88 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 4: you know, going into game four hoping to win, and 89 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 4: my friend Michael Cooper started to talk trash to Sleepy 90 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 4: Floyd and I said, Coop, don't do that. 91 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 3: I said, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't. 92 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 4: Do that, And uh he woke Sleepy Florida up, and 93 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 4: Sleepy went to work and forced us to a game five. 94 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, back in Los Angeles. 95 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why was he called sleepy? Do you know? 96 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 3: Well? His eyes were always kind of droopy. 97 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 4: He looked like one of the one of the seven Dwarfs, 98 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 4: especially when he walked into a Gymnasium. 99 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 3: He always had to like refocus his eyes. 100 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 4: Uh that that that nickname has been around for a 101 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 4: long time. 102 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 2: That's awesome, that's awesome. All right, doing well? Two for 103 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 2: two here? 104 00:04:56,440 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 1: Okay, this next guy, Uh, you most notably remember this guy. 105 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: He played for the Atlanta Hawks. He bounced around a 106 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: little bit. He played the Spurs and the Clippers. In fact, 107 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: he's a current coach of the l A Clippers. 108 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 109 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 4: Also was the uh, the king of flopping. A lot 110 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 4: of people, a lot of people thought there was a 111 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 4: Vlade diva, but uh, Doc Rivers, you know, a steady 112 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 4: defensive player out of Marquette. 113 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 3: It was. It was. 114 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 4: It was a really good defensive player for the Atlanta 115 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 4: Hawks and won a championship with. I can't remember the 116 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 4: team that he won an NBA championship with. I think 117 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 4: there was Saint Louis or something like that, but anyway, 118 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 4: it was it was Boston. But I hate saying that word, 119 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 4: but yeah. 120 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: Sorry, let me ask you this then, you know, because 121 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: you know, with this whole bubble idea in Orlando, you know, 122 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: one of the teams that could make it could be 123 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: the Clippers, and it could be the Celtics. If if 124 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: the finals was THEPS versus the Celtics, who would you 125 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: cheer for? 126 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 3: I'm not even going to acknowledge that question. 127 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 2: So there wouldn't be any Los Angeles loyalty there. 128 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 4: You just you know, if you would have said the 129 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 4: Lakers in the Celtics, then I would have given you 130 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 4: an answer. Are the Lakers and the Clippers? But yeah, 131 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 4: I have no answer for you there. 132 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, that's good. It shows that there's still some 133 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 2: passion there. Nothing at times has those wounds there. 134 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,799 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, this next guy one of my favorite players 135 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: of all time because he hit two of the biggest 136 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: free throws in NBA All Star Game history nineteen eighty seven. 137 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 2: As well, going back to nineteen eighty seven, you might 138 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 2: remember this guy because you. 139 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 3: Got Rolando black Man. 140 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: There you go, Rolando black Man, Yeah, yeah. 141 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 4: Ndol Blackman played for Kansas State yep. Really the heart 142 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:57,799 Speaker 4: and soul of the Dallas Mavericks franchise. A great team player, 143 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 4: a great leader. They had Mark Orguire yeah, and some 144 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 4: other players, but Orlando Blackman wash was clutch and was 145 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 4: definitely clutch in that All Star Game where we're able 146 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 4: to win on his free throws spent, he sitting in 147 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 4: the overtime, and we took it from there. 148 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: What what do you remember when he went to the 149 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: free throw line there? Did you think he was gonna 150 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: knock him down? I mean a lot of pressure there. 151 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and I think she was receiving a lot 152 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 4: of a lot of trash talk. I can't remember what 153 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 4: he said when he made it, but it was he 154 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 4: said I remember that or something like that. He said, 155 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 4: confidence baby, confidence baby, Yes, sir, he was a shop shooter. 156 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 4: If you want someone to take a big shot, do 157 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 4: you think it was a guy? 158 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: Do you think there's been a better All Star game 159 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: in history than that one in eighty seven? 160 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 3: That was a good one. 161 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 4: A lot of talent, a lot of good teams, and 162 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 4: you know, a lot of bragging rights. 163 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, a lot of Hall of Famous too on 164 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: that on that court. Okay, this next one was a 165 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,679 Speaker 1: teammate of yours for a lot of years. In fact, 166 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: I believe I saw one time you said that when 167 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: you were a rookie and you came into the Lakers, 168 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: you thought. 169 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 2: You were going to take this guy spot. 170 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: But this guy kind of kind of taught you, taught 171 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: you a few lessons along the way. Yeah, a pretty 172 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: tough guy. He moved on to Phoenix and Charlotte. I 173 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: think he was part of the expansion draft. He went 174 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: to the Hornets. 175 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 4: But Superman, Yes, we we we traded, we traded, We 176 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 4: traded Kurt Rambis, I believe. 177 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 3: For I can't remember. 178 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 4: Was it Glade or or Michael or Kobe, I can't remember, 179 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 4: but he went to Charlotte. 180 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 181 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 4: I came to the Lakers the number one draft pick, 182 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 4: and I wasn't arrogant, but I was really confident that 183 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 4: I could start. And so I walked into the gym 184 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 4: and I saw Kareem Magic. You know, Jamal Wilks was 185 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:55,839 Speaker 4: still small forward. Norman Nixon was on the team, and 186 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 4: then Kurt Rambis walked in in the gym. He had 187 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 4: these big old Coke bottle thick glasses and he had 188 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 4: dumk Kate keeping them together. He smelled like Ben Gaye, 189 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 4: you know, he just he had all these apparatuses and 190 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 4: I was like, you know what, he's slow, he can't. 191 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 3: Jump, can't shoot. I said, I'm going to get that spot. Well. 192 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 4: Within about thirty minutes into the first practice, Kirk Rahmby 193 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 4: showed me what a real power forward. 194 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 3: Was in the NBA. He beat the hell out of me. 195 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 4: Man, I said, you know what, I'm gonna go over 196 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 4: here and sit on the bench and wait a couple 197 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 4: of years because I wasn't getting Kirk spot. He was 198 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 4: a monster. He was a monster out of Santa Claire. 199 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 4: Barely made it into the NBA, and the Lakers picked 200 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 4: him up and saw that he was a valuable power forward. 201 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 4: In fact, if you go back to the nineteen eighty 202 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 4: two championship game, Kirk Ramis dunks. 203 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 3: On Derrek fucking It's hard right with two hands. He 204 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 3: had some talent. 205 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, we just didn't need it. 206 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's that famous incident against the Celtics, I think 207 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: it was eighty four maybe in the finals where Kevin McHale, 208 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: Kevin McHale wax him and you're the one who kind 209 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: of like stops that from really going into a fall 210 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: on brawl because you kind of get in Kurt's face 211 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: and sort of keep him. 212 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 4: You know. It was my first experience in the playoffs. 213 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 4: I was a young kid and saw when that play happened, 214 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 4: it was a lot going on. So my peripheral vision 215 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 4: all I saw was a body and I thought somebody 216 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 4: was coming at me, so I pushed Kurt away from 217 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 4: Kevin McHale, And Kevin McHale thanks me to this day, 218 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 4: because Kurt was going to kick his ass. 219 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I think I've seen Kevin McHale and Larry 220 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 1: Bird say that like that was like not even much 221 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 1: of a foul. 222 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 2: He only just got him, you know, but. 223 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 3: Well it was it was, you know, and today's game. 224 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 4: You would be suspended for at least three games, right 225 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 4: that mckill didn't even get a technical for that. 226 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, just two shots. 227 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 3: Let's keep playing. 228 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:17,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it. It's crazy when you think back now, 229 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: you're right, like, like, yeah, I think Larry Bird even 230 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: said at some time he said, oh the Lakers started 231 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: flopping around, It's like, I mean, you took his head 232 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: off nearly there. 233 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 4: Well, you know, it changed the complexion of the series 234 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:33,839 Speaker 4: because we were angry and we tried to play that 235 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 4: way and we you know, we it wasn't our style, 236 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 4: so they kind of took us off our game. 237 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 1: Right, Okay, the next one here, this gentleman, this guy 238 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: so so towards the end of your career around nineteen 239 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: ninety one, you guys were actually not the favorite to 240 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: go through to the finals, but you caused an upset 241 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: and you beat the team that should have gone. 242 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 2: To the finals. 243 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 1: I guess they had a home court advantage. This guy 244 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: was the point guard for that team. 245 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 3: You got Jerry Porter. 246 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 2: There you go, Terry Porter. 247 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, Terry Porter, you know, one of one of the 248 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 4: most underrated guards. I put him right up there with 249 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 4: with with some of the top guards in the league. 250 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 4: Steady Strong, a good team leader, a big shot maker. 251 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 4: Michael Cooper was really good defensively on him, blocking his shot. 252 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 4: But Terry Porter was a great player. Not too many 253 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 4: people talk about him, but he was an underrated port 254 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 4: guard in the league. I didn't match him up against anybody. 255 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,719 Speaker 4: And from what I hear, uh, he's a pretty good 256 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 4: golfer as well. 257 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: Who's the best golfer out there? Who's the best retired 258 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,479 Speaker 1: player golfer? I guess Jordan, I guess Michael. 259 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 3: Retired retired would be Jerry West? Oh yeah, yeah, Jerry 260 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 3: West is pretty good. Ray Allen Ray, Allen, I hear 261 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 3: is pretty good. 262 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: Right, right, yeah, Michael as well as I mean Steph 263 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: Curry is not retired, but Steph Curry retire, but he's 264 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: pretty good as well. What was the key to you 265 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: guys beating the Blazers and causing the upset in that year? 266 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 1: I know, you won Game one on the road and 267 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: then it kind of like you help you help court 268 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: back in Los Angeles, and then Game six was a 269 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: pretty close one. If you guys lose that, that was 270 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: the one where Magic throws the ball over his head 271 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: at the end of the game. 272 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 2: If you lose that, do you think you still go 273 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 2: on to win that series in seven? 274 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 3: Well? 275 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 4: I do think Portland was a slightly better team that year, 276 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:22,719 Speaker 4: but we had more experience, yeah, uh, and we were 277 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 4: able to take away their strengths primarily you know, Clive 278 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 4: Drexler and their running game, so we were able to 279 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 4: diminishe and keep the games close. 280 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, and we felt that in close. 281 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 4: Games, you know, Magic, we had experience and that's kind 282 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 4: of where that's kind of where we're paid out with put. 283 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. That was a great series. 284 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 1: Okay, next one, so well, okay, the opposite this time 285 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: back in back in nineteen eighty six, of you guys 286 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: were the favorite in this series, but you ended up 287 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: getting upset by a. 288 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 2: Team and this team with the coach of this team, 289 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 2: this is the next card. The coach of that. 290 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: Team, Rudy Rudy Tom Donald. No, he wasn't the coach. 291 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: He wasn't the coach. Then there was another guy who 292 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: was the coach for the Houston Rockets. Yeah, oh was that? 293 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 2: Would that be Fitch? Bill Fitch? There he is Bill Fitch. 294 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Bill Fitch was uh uh coach to Celtics 295 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 4: for a while. Yeah, and uh not too many players 296 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 4: today currently could take playing. 297 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 3: For Bill Fitch. 298 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 4: He was one of the one of the last toughest, 299 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 4: in your face kind of the coaches. But his record 300 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:37,119 Speaker 4: speaks for itself. 301 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 302 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 4: He knew how to coach on his feet and he 303 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 4: knew how to get the best out of players. 304 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 3: Good coach? 305 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 2: What what? What? 306 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 3: Why? 307 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: Why were they able to sort of beat you guys, 308 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: you know four games to one in that series, like 309 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: you guys were defending champs. 310 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 2: Was it just Ralph and a cheam Elijah one? 311 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 3: Well, we took them for granted. 312 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 4: We were already looking ahead, uh to the Celtic rematch. 313 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 314 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 4: And also our last couple of games in regular seasons 315 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 4: were against the Houston Rockets, and they they they gained 316 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 4: a lot of confidence and they had a King. 317 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 3: Uh. 318 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 4: Obviously the dream was devastating to us, but they also 319 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 4: had Read Wiggins. 320 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 3: Lloyd. They had some players and they ran with us. 321 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 3: They matched our. 322 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 4: Running program, and they also had like we did whenever 323 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 4: we need to go have court. We had Kareem and 324 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 4: they had a Keem. Elija won and they just they 325 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 4: just took us by surprise. 326 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess that was the toughest match up for 327 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 2: you guys. 328 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: I mean, you had a kid, you had, you had 329 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: Kareem on Ralph Sampson, and then I guess Kurt was 330 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: on a Keem most of that series, and A King 331 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: was probably too athletic and too long, I guess. 332 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 4: And we even we even bought Mitch cup Check in 333 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 4: to piss a team off and then worked. 334 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 3: It worked. 335 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 4: We got him in a fight, you got tossed out 336 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 4: the game. We thought we had a chance. Yeah, with 337 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 4: that miraculous last shot by Ralph Sampson. I mean, the 338 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 4: Lakers had been to the finals in eighty two, eighty three, 339 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 4: eighty four, eighty five, and so we we kind of 340 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 4: took them for granted because we had just beaten the 341 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 4: Celtics eighty five and we were looking forward to a rematch. Yeah, 342 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 4: but I have to say the Rockets were better team. 343 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 4: They played better, and they played better together, and they 344 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 4: deserve to beat us that year. 345 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 3: It wasn't by accident. They've beat us four to one. 346 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 347 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: Well, I know Bill Fitch, I remember, I think he 348 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: was on Bill Simmons podcast one time said that they 349 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: came in off a series, tough series against Denver straight 350 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: to Los Angeles. I think they lost that first game 351 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: and he said he said otherwise, he thinks he would 352 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: have swept the Lakers though, because his team was better. 353 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: But you know, I mean everyone thinks that. I guess, Well, 354 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: this next one, this is the guy, this is the 355 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: man for the Houston Rockets. Who who Yeah, was the 356 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: star of that series, and he was I believe he 357 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: was rumored to become The Lakers tried to try for 358 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 1: him and tried to get him at some point too 359 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 1: in the light eighties. 360 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 3: The Yeah it's funny. 361 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 4: I played against a chem Olijawon in nineteen eighty two 362 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 4: in the NCAA. 363 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 3: Playoffs, and back then they had the Fly. 364 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 4: Slamm of jama Yeah, Houston, and a chem Olaijawan didn't 365 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 4: even start for them. I only think he played very 366 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 4: limited minutes. He was straight from Nigeria. Off the soccer field. 367 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 4: He was a great soccer goalie. 368 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 3: And when he came in the game, he had no 369 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 3: basketball IQ. 370 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 4: But I even knew then that his presence and his 371 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 4: his athleticism was noticeable. 372 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 3: But he wasn't a factor back then, and we were 373 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 3: able to beat them. 374 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 4: But when he got with Moses Malone down in Houston, 375 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 4: he started to work out with Moses Malone to get 376 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 4: the concept and the theory of the game. And then 377 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 4: the dream shake. Oh yeah, there was then there was 378 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 4: no looking back after that. 379 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 380 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, Where do you rank him? 381 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: You know, next to Patrick Ewing and David Robinson, you know, 382 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 1: shaq Where would you. 383 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 4: A lot of you know, I always say Kareem out 384 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 4: doing Jr. Bars my guy. Yeah, for centers, but if 385 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 4: it'd be a hard not to pick a Keem Olajuan, 386 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 4: he's the second behind Kareem. It may even be a 387 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 4: one A Korean. If Kareem is one A, Keem Olijuan 388 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 4: is one A. And I know I'm overlooking Shaquille and 389 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 4: David Robinson and some good centers, but. 390 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 3: Kim Olajuan he was. 391 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 2: The real Deal's defensively as well. 392 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 3: I mean he's the real deal. 393 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, all time later in blocks and he's up there 394 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: and steals as well, like not many centers, as many 395 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: steals as he did because he had those super long odds. 396 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 4: Well, I think I think his I think his uh, 397 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 4: his experience as a goalie and really gave him the hand. 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All right, This next 454 00:21:56,400 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 1: guy you had some good battles with in the finals again, 455 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: and this guy had one of the most heroic finals 456 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 1: performances in Los Angeles in Game six of the eighty 457 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 1: eight finals. 458 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 2: And man, he was he was hurting. 459 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: He was hurting after this because they led the series 460 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: three too, but then lost in seven. But he had 461 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 1: one of the most miraculous performances in game six. 462 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 3: Isaiah Thomas. 463 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. 464 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 4: Also we were in the same class class is seventy nine. 465 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 4: Wow high school. We played in McDonald's high school games together. 466 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 4: Also played against Isaiah Thomas in nineteen eighty one North 467 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 4: Carolina versus the Indiana Hooss. 468 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 3: We lost to them. 469 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 4: And no matter what you say, I don't know if 470 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 4: there's any point guards in the league that, yeah, I 471 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 4: would pick over him. Obviously you're talking about current players 472 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 4: shooting the three. But when it's punch time, there's no 473 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 4: other point guard that that that's better than Isaiah Thomas. 474 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: No, boys, you know that game six, I mean you 475 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: guys only one Game six by one point. Went on 476 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: to win Game seven by three. But Isaiah didn't really play. 477 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: I mean you know were you were? You pretty worried 478 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: in game six. There you're down in the series three too, 479 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: because they won game won in LA as well. 480 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 3: Always worried. 481 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: You know. 482 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 3: Detroit was a was a tough team. 483 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 4: Isaiah obviously their leader, you know, hitting thirty nine. 484 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 3: So points on one ankle. 485 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we were always worried, but we you know, 486 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 4: we knew that when we came back to La we 487 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 4: were down two games and we had to win two. 488 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 2: They were, you know, known as the bad Boys. 489 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: But like throughout the eighties, when you went up against 490 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: the Celtics, like physically, it wouldn't have been much of 491 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: a difference. 492 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 3: I don't expect. 493 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: I mean, all those Celtics Lakers series were so physical. 494 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 1: So by the time the Bad Boys came along, I mean, 495 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: you guys were used to that sort of style. 496 00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 4: Like, yeah, bad Boys ad meant nothing to us, maybe 497 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 4: to Jordans, and you know, it was just a name. Yeah, 498 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 4: we'd already played against the Celtics. You know, Utah was 499 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 4: a physical team, right, the Utah Jazz. 500 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 3: So yeah, didn't mean anything. 501 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:14,959 Speaker 2: Right, Okay. 502 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: This next guy, he came off the bench for the 503 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: Seattle SuperSonics, a team you also played in the playoffs 504 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: eighty seven and eighty nine. He had a good series 505 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 1: against him, Eve though I think he swept them both times. 506 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: But they were a pretty physical team. This guy was 507 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 1: a forward center. What can I say? He's out of Virginia. 508 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 3: H out of Virginia. 509 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, out of Virginia. 510 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 3: Would that be? Would that be Would that be Olden Polonies? 511 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 2: Oh you bet you would be there? 512 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 3: You go, yeah, Olden Polonies. 513 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 4: Old Polonies was a seven foot right, a banger, and 514 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 4: he was one of those seven footers that coaches like 515 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 4: to have on their team because he's physical. You know, 516 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 4: he can get you some office and rebounds, and you know, 517 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 4: he's just a good energy. He was always good energy, 518 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 4: positive and h Olden p was a Clipper. 519 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 3: For a little while. 520 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 521 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 4: And I used to see him in La And now 522 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 4: he had a house in Santa Monica where he used 523 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 4: to have late night parties, right, And I told him, 524 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 4: I said, old in the Polonies. I said, you're in 525 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 4: the wrong neighborhood girl, if you have any kind of parties. 526 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 3: And he was over there for a few weeks. 527 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: You guys, you guys in eighty nine were down twenty 528 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 1: nine points in Game four and you came back and 529 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 1: won that won that series. 530 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 2: You had a pretty big game. I think you had 531 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 2: thirty three points in that game. But Seattle was one. 532 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: Of those crazy, uh crazy arenas where the fans are 533 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: going mad and they're up so big so early, but 534 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: then you guys came back and won pretty easily, Like 535 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 1: was that maybe like when you look about go back 536 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: to that sleepy Floyd game where you kind of overlooked 537 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,679 Speaker 1: them a little bit that you decided to lock in 538 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: and end that series in four. 539 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 4: Well, I had a good team. They were well coach 540 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 4: by bigger staff. Yeah, you know, they had Sean Kent 541 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 4: was amazing. Yeah, you know, they had some players. Dan 542 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 4: Analysis was a great shooter. So you know, we knew 543 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 4: that they could compete with us athletically for a while, 544 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 4: but at the end we knew our team concept would 545 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 4: overtaking the individual play. Yeah, it was a grind playing 546 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 4: in Seattle in a small arena iguinst a bunch of young, 547 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 4: exciting guys, But we knew we had experience and we 548 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 4: knew we had a formula that they did not, So 549 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 4: we knew as it got down toward the fourth quarter, 550 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 4: we just kept executing. They would make some make mistakes, 551 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 4: like playing ping pong, you just keep the ball on 552 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 4: the table until your opponent makes a mistake, and we 553 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 4: was able to capitalize on that. 554 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,120 Speaker 1: What was pat Riley saying when you're down twenty nine 555 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: points there like this this stay cool, stay time. 556 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 4: I mean like yeah, you know he's just you know, 557 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 4: he would say, let's get it to you know, get 558 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 4: it to get it to fifteen. You know, just chip away, 559 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 4: chip away and focus on the defense. We had to 560 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 4: make stocks, but you have to. You know, if you're 561 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 4: down twenty nine, you want to get into twenty, right 562 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 4: then you want to get into fifteen. They once you 563 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 4: get it to ten, you know usually you know, you 564 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 4: put a little pressure on your ponent. So that that 565 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 4: was always our strategy. A twenty nine point lead with 566 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 4: a quarter and a half left, we felt okay with that. 567 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's that was an amazing game. Okay. 568 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 1: This next guy is UH is a point out from 569 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,439 Speaker 1: the Celtics. He's he's no longer with us. Actually, this 570 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: guy but a very very good player. 571 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 2: He hit he hit a big shot in one of 572 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 2: the playoff games I can't remember which twenty was. 573 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: But also played with the Seattle SuperSonics. 574 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 3: And is the only the only Celtic I ever liked. 575 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's only he's the only one I ever respected. 576 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 4: Rest in peace is a great guy. Yeah from Compton, California. 577 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 4: UH played played a Pepperdine and one in seventy seventy 578 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 4: with the with the UH with the Seattle SuperSonics as. 579 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 3: A rookie, I believe. 580 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 4: Yeah right and also uh quoted by Larry Bird the 581 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 4: heart and soul of the Celtic team. Obviously Larry Bird 582 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 4: was the guy, but Dennis Johnson was the key. 583 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 584 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 4: Just started dig mission, smart, savvy and always under control, 585 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 4: all right. 586 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, real solid veterans suited the Boston style really well, 587 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: just you know, cool under pressure. 588 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 2: All right. 589 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: This this next guy, you battled against him in the 590 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: in the Western Conference finals. He's actually joined a different 591 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: team in this card, but he was a big player 592 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: for those Dallas Mavericks teams really talked about Orlando. This 593 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: was the other guy who was a big, high scoring forward. 594 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: He came out I guess the year before you did. 595 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 4: He came out, Yeah, markk Wire, Yeah, big butte. 596 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. Marcguire was a it was an exceptional score. 597 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, and uh you know, he wasn't very tall, but 598 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 4: knew how to use his body, like he put that 599 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 4: butt on you and bump you off. He could shoot, 600 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 4: and he could also uh you know, a pretty good 601 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 4: post up player. 602 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 603 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 4: When he was with the Mavericks, was fortunate enough to 604 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 4: replace Agent Dantley. 605 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 606 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 4: For the Pistons, into going to win UH two championship 607 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 4: with his buddy Isaiah Thomas. 608 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 2: That was another tough series. You guys had a ninety 609 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 2: eight against the Mavericks. 610 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: You know, they were a good teament, but as soon 611 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: as I traded away Mark Aguire, they kind of fell apart. 612 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 2: All us off of that for you know, most of 613 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 2: the nineties. 614 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 4: What's funny. Uh The one time I was rumored to 615 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 4: be traded was going to before Mark and Roy Tarpley. 616 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, unfortunate. 617 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 4: Unfortunately that trade didn't go through, but marccguire went on 618 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 4: to Detroit and was able to succeed there. 619 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: Like how tough is it to deal with that sort 620 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 1: of speculation knowing that you might be traded and you 621 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: go onto a you know team that's like arrival, and 622 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: you know it's. 623 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 3: Part of business. 624 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, as long as you are a commodity, you're safe. 625 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 3: You know, it's not it's not a long career. Yeah, 626 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 3: I love Los. 627 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 4: Angeles, but I was prepared because I knew that in 628 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 4: order to make a trade, they weren't going to trade 629 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 4: Mad's good kareem and so in order they wanted something, Yeah, 630 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 4: he's going to be me. So yeah, I was always 631 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 4: cool with that. 632 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it must be uh, must must be weird though, 633 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: when you know, like that's out there. 634 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 2: I saw that. 635 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: I was looking up before, just reading through some of 636 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: your career and it said that the top leag Wired 637 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: deal nearly happened. I think Jerry West in the end 638 00:30:58,440 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: said no. 639 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think yeah. They didn't want to. 640 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 4: They didn't want to see me coming back into the 641 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 4: forum dropping big numbers. 642 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 3: They didn't want to see because it definitely would have happened. 643 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: Well, this guy, this next guy was a pretty sweet shoot, 644 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: sweet look, sweet. 645 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 2: Shooting guy out of Saint John's. 646 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: He went on to me, a member of the Dream Team, 647 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: A little lefty, he put up a few big numbers 648 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: in his career. 649 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 4: I tell you, I watched him in college and uh, 650 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 4: he's a small forward and they said he was just 651 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 4: gonna dominate. And I was a small four and I 652 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 4: was like, I'm gonna eat him for lunch. And when 653 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 4: I played against Chris Mullins the first time, I quickly 654 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 4: realized that he had a special talent. 655 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 656 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 4: The guy could shoot and he didn't need a lot 657 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 4: of room to do it. Really strong upper body. Yeah, 658 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 4: and he knew how to get you off of him 659 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 4: and move it out to basketball. 660 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 3: Really well. 661 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, uh so I was staken to think that I 662 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 4: could dominate him. 663 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 3: He dropped a few numbers on me. 664 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 2: Really, is that right? 665 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 3: Yeah? But I had to give it back to him, yeah, 666 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 3: really really quickly. 667 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 4: But you know, like you said, Olympian great guy, Saint 668 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 4: John lucan Osaka. 669 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, probably, you know, when you think about how his 670 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: career started, because it got off to a bit of 671 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 1: a Rockie stop, pretty pretty big that he was able 672 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: to make the Dream Team in the end. I mean 673 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: that's uh, that's the one team that everyone wanted to make. 674 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 3: No doubt. 675 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 4: And uh, you know, Chris Mullin had proven that he 676 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 4: could handle adversity and come out good on the other end. Yeah, 677 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 4: sharpshooter perfect for the Olympics because you need those guys 678 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 4: that can stretch the floor and shoot at will. 679 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 2: All right, we've got two cards to go here. 680 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: This next guy we talked about Orlando Blackman's free throws 681 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: in the eighty seven All Star Game, Well, this guy 682 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: was actually a replacement player for Ralph Sampson and he 683 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 1: uh and he went on to stop the game. And 684 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: I think he's the only player in NBA history. Who 685 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: was a replacement player to go on to win MVP? 686 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: Tom Chambers Cherry is Big Tom. 687 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 3: Big Tom. 688 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, Magic Johnson made sure that we fed him the 689 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 4: ball because the game was played in his home and 690 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 4: the team he played for at the time was Seattle. 691 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 692 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 4: Uh. Tom Chambers was a very athletic player. You know 693 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 4: a lot of people said white men can't jump. Well Tom, 694 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 4: Tom proved that wrong. Yeah, Tom, you know, he's very athletic, 695 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 4: you know, a tough guy to deal with in the post, 696 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 4: and was very successful on the Phoenix and doing a 697 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 4: great job as a broadcaster now the Phoenix Suns. 698 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: I remember pat Riley was asked one time about because 699 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: as the coach he can choose whoever he wanted to 700 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: start that game, and he said there was no question 701 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: in his mind. 702 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 2: He was going with the guy like no doubt. Turned 703 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 2: out to be a pretty smart decision too. 704 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: All right, This next guy, so he came over from Yugoslavia, 705 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,319 Speaker 1: played with you, played with you, and turned into a 706 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 1: very very talented player and spent most of his career, 707 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 1: I guess his best years with the Sacramento Kings. 708 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:21,240 Speaker 2: But when he came over he was uh, big man. 709 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 3: Didn't speak any English and had an interpreter. I thought 710 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 3: he spoke English. 711 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:31,320 Speaker 4: I think he just had to interpret the fool everybody also, 712 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 4: he'll deny this, but after practice we would have meetings 713 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 4: in the locker room and the first couple of practice 714 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 4: Vladi Diebac would roll his own cigarettes in the locker 715 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 4: room and someone said, I thought it was marijuana first, 716 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 4: and someone said, Bloody, what are you doing. 717 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 3: He said, oh, we can't smoke. 718 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 4: I was like, no, can't smoke, but yeah, Bloody was 719 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 4: Lady was uh another guy that kind of mastered the flop, 720 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,360 Speaker 4: but it was a seven footer with a lot of 721 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 4: a lot of tricks. Yeah, good shoot, very savvy. Uh 722 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 4: and uh, we loved Lady he was. He was a 723 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 4: great teammate and doing a great job up in Sacramento 724 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 4: as as president of that organization. 725 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:21,879 Speaker 2: Right now, you. 726 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: Know when he comes over. You mentioned that he didn't 727 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: speak much English. So he has to learn the language, 728 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 1: He has to learn the culture, he has to learn 729 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: the offense and the defense. 730 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 2: But how long did it take him to learn the 731 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 2: rules of the Forum Club. 732 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:43,320 Speaker 3: About five minutes by Lottie knew all that. 733 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 4: Lottie slept all day and as most European or international 734 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:54,760 Speaker 4: people there, night clubs are late night. Yeah, so Vlotti 735 00:35:54,880 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 4: found a couple of European night joints and uh, that's 736 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 4: where you hang out in coming to practice and you know, 737 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 4: kind of sleeping in ready to go. 738 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 3: You know. 739 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 1: After the Last Dance documentary, a lot of people were saying, 740 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 1: what should be the next sports documentary? What do you 741 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: think about a ten part documentary of the Forum pub. 742 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 4: That would be a twenty part series and then I 743 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:22,879 Speaker 4: had to be a lot of disclosures. 744 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 745 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: Do you think do you think everyone would volunteer to 746 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:27,919 Speaker 1: go on camera for that or do you think there'd 747 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 1: be a few anonymous a few anonymous people. 748 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,839 Speaker 3: I don't think. I don't think we want to want 749 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,280 Speaker 3: to start digging up those stories. 750 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 4: There were people that I had friends in Atlanta that 751 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 4: worked for Delta Airli and so it was easy for 752 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 4: them to get on the flight right. They would leave 753 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 4: Atlanta three o'clock in the afternoon two o'clock to come 754 00:36:55,080 --> 00:37:00,919 Speaker 4: to a Laker game. I would leave them tickets. They 755 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 4: never came into the arenas, they went straight to the 756 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 4: form club, got seats at the bar so they could 757 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 4: be ready for after the game. Okay, so they would 758 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 4: have fun in the Form Club soil around twelve o'clock. 759 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:25,240 Speaker 4: Then they get on the red Eye fly back. 760 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,359 Speaker 3: To Atlanta just to get the. 761 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 4: Form Club, man, because everybody who was anybody can't get 762 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 4: there if you were a Hollywood star. Mick Jagger all 763 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 4: the ladies and Doctor Buss had a section where he 764 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:43,880 Speaker 4: held court over there. 765 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 3: And it was just. 766 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 4: It was fabulous before fabulous became popular. 767 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 2: Is it still open? 768 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 3: The Form is still open primarily for music. Yeah. 769 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,879 Speaker 4: They have refurbished the Forum Club. It looks really different now, 770 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 4: but it's still the Forum Club. 771 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's not. There's a lot of stories on 772 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 3: the wall, baby, a lot of ghosts in there. 773 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:11,839 Speaker 1: Man. 774 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 4: I walked in there for the first time in about 775 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:17,400 Speaker 4: twenty five years. 776 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,320 Speaker 3: All these ghosts came out of the wall. Yeah, remember 777 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 3: when remember this? 778 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I think I'm going to pitch this idea 779 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 1: to someone. I think there could be a nice documentary 780 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:29,839 Speaker 1: out of this one. 781 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 3: Just the Forum Club, baby, Yeah, that's it. Yeah. 782 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 1: Don't worry about the Lakers or anything like that. Just 783 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,959 Speaker 1: the Forum Club itself. I mean, everyone from all around 784 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 1: the world. People can entertainers, musicians and stars from everywhere 785 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 1: will have something to contribute. 786 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 4: I'm sure if you think the Game of Thrones was big, 787 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 4: the Forum Club will be bigger. 788 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 1: Well, this has been awesome, James, thanks so much for 789 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 1: your TOM I really appreciate it. 790 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:56,720 Speaker 2: It's been great listening to those stories. 791 00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 5: Man. 792 00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 3: I don't think I missed one. 793 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. I think I think you 794 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 2: did pretty well, which was good. It was. There was 795 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 2: obviously you played against well, you would have played against. 796 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 1: All of these guys or played with some of them 797 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:11,439 Speaker 1: as well, so you set the standard. Thanks very much 798 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 1: to you.