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Speaker 1: We've got Bob Nightingale from USA today and one of

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Speaker 1: our insiders here on FT joining us. Bob, good to

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Speaker 1: see you, and let's start at the top here. We

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Speaker 1: have two fresh signings, as you just pointed out, and

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Speaker 1: we showed the tweet, both for the same amount of

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Speaker 1: money at the same exact time. What do you think

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Speaker 1: of Luke Weaver to the Mets and Brad Keller to

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Speaker 1: the Phillies for two years and twenty two million dollars?

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Speaker 2: It was interesting the Yankees never made an offer on Weaver.

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Speaker 3: It's almost like, you know when Starnburner instead, I'm want

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Speaker 3: to keep this payroll around three hundred run or keep

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Speaker 3: to the word.

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Speaker 2: So maybe they're saving that money for Bellinger or somebody else.

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Speaker 3: Uh So, I was fascinated at the end of make

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Speaker 3: an offer, so I know that was I agree with

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Speaker 3: you guys, that was a great deal for a Weaver.

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Speaker 3: Keller has made himself a lot of money compared to

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Speaker 3: where he was. And you know, we talk about everybody

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Speaker 3: making eleven million. Member Kelly Jensen did that a few

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Speaker 3: days ago. Then everybody kind of followed him. Okay, if

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Speaker 3: Jans makes eleven, we'll make eleven. You know, we saw

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Speaker 3: that last week, of course at the winter meetings with

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Speaker 3: Alonzo and Schwarber, whether you know both basically making the

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Speaker 3: same amount of money.

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Speaker 4: Is the Luke Weaver not getting an offer from the

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Speaker 4: Yankees more news than what it is than you know,

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Speaker 4: not just the payroll, the need to get the payroll

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Speaker 4: under a certain spot, or is it the Yankees saw

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Speaker 4: maybe a little bit of a regression or something that

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Speaker 4: they were like, I don't know if this holds up

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Speaker 4: because they still need bullpen help.

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Speaker 3: They do, and obviously they didn't him bearing to anybody.

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Speaker 3: They know themer than the Mets. They get the medicals.

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Speaker 2: They saw you got.

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Speaker 3: Hurt last year, so we'll see. I mean, he had

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Speaker 3: an unbelievable bounce back. You know, I thought a few

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Speaker 3: years ago he was almost on the point of retiring,

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Speaker 3: just where his career was going. So he's really remained himself.

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Speaker 3: So you know, they might have been told too, he's

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Speaker 3: going to take ten eleven million dollars multi years, where

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Speaker 3: the Yankees say, you know what, we're not going to

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Speaker 3: bother make an offer, so they must have an idea

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Speaker 5: I want to talk one more thing about New York here.

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Speaker 5: You know, the Mets are starting to make these moves

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Speaker 5: after the whole big trading, Nemo getting Alonso didn't come back,

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Speaker 5: Edwin Diaz didn't come back. What's next for the Mets

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Speaker 5: and the Yankees as well? I mean they're both part

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Speaker 5: of this. I mean both you know, Devin Williams played

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Speaker 5: for the Yankees and Weaver played for the Yankees as well.

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Speaker 6: So do you see.

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Speaker 5: Anything happening before you know, the holiday comes here with

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Speaker 5: both these New York teams?

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Speaker 6: Anything anymore or anything less? What do you think?

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Speaker 3: Well, less have got to get a big time starter somewhere,

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Speaker 3: you know, whether it's a uh, you know, uh your frame,

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Speaker 3: Red Beldez or Michael King or you know the Japanese Star.

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Speaker 3: You gotta you gotta get somebody to turn that thing around.

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Speaker 3: So they're reshaping that thing in Stern's image, and uh

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Speaker 3: what Sterns wants. And I think, you know, kudos to

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Speaker 3: Stearns were not caring about the the pr backlash. I

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Speaker 3: think he wanted to make this with this team his

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Speaker 3: style and kind of told Steve co Okay, you got Sodo,

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Speaker 3: let me do the rest here. I still find that

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Speaker 3: whole trade fascinating that Nimmo was willing to waive his

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Speaker 3: no trade clause after spending his whole time there building

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Speaker 3: a house in Port Saint Luci. So I still think

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Speaker 3: and you still hear rumblings of what's actually going on

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Speaker 7: Let's talk about Tatsuomi.

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Speaker 4: Is the market for him going to just explode in

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Speaker 4: the sense that everybody's final offers are going to come

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Speaker 4: in because of that deadline that he has. That couldn't

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Speaker 4: that happen for other free agents if they had their

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Speaker 4: own deadline, which might actually work in Tatsuyama's favor for

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Speaker 4: the bigger markets here.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think with that Dylan cease for what he got,

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Speaker 3: I don't think enemy expected him to get two or ten,

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Speaker 3: know both Emaya and Framer bell da as I said, hey,

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Speaker 3: I want something close to it, if not tomp it.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: You know, I think of beldesmy saying, you know what,

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Speaker 3: let me wait for my to sign.

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Speaker 2: And I'm gonna piggyback off him.

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Speaker 3: So I think they're kind of looking at each other

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Speaker 5: First, let's talk about you know, you're wearing a purple

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Speaker 5: shirt right now, Arizona Diamondbacks.

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Speaker 6: I think there's a reasoning for that. No, I'm just kidding.

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Speaker 5: But ultimately, ultimately Alex Bregman, he's been on a lot

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Speaker 5: of talks, you know, a couple of teams here and

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Speaker 5: we just hearing this.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, yeah, you're talking to Dinmack officials and no

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Speaker 3: words kicking the tires. I think it's the thing where

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Speaker 3: if they do consel Marte, that's about a hard million

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Speaker 3: bucks come off the books. Uh, you know, Bregman won't

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Speaker 3: be that much more in that, and then you can

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Speaker 2: They need a big clubhouse influence in there.

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Speaker 3: They got you know, some great eight star players Corbyn Carroll,

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Speaker 3: but a young guy not really ready to assume that

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Speaker 3: Bregnant Spence as winners in Scottsdell working out. I think

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Speaker 3: he's got a second home here, that sort of thing.

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Speaker 3: So uh yeah, no, one thought that a year ago

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Speaker 3: to get Clebyn Burns, and they did and this would

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Speaker 3: be another surprise. They're kind of, you know, seeing whether

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Speaker 3: that pregnant market really opens up.

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Speaker 2: But right now it's kind of the same teams as

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Speaker 3: You know, Boston, Detroit, Cubs would degree, but I'm not

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Speaker 3: sure the Cubs you know, have as much interest as

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Speaker 3: they did a year ago because Matt Shaw had a

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Speaker 4: Are the kicking the tires so that what you said,

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Speaker 4: like the market kind of kicks up. Like if you

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Speaker 4: never if other teams don't ever make offers or really

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Speaker 4: push for a player, the player is never going to

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Speaker 4: make that much money. So is this just an easy

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Speaker 4: is this just an easy story when you go and

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Speaker 4: call kind of getting into like what you do when

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Speaker 4: you talk to club officials, it's like, what's the hurt?

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Speaker 4: What's the hurt of the Diamondbacks saying yeah, you know what,

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Speaker 4: we'll see if he's willing to take another one year deal.

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Speaker 4: We'll see if he's willing to take you know, less years.

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Speaker 4: But it's not really something that's out there.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think it's like a Pittsburgh case

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Speaker 3: I think it's that they don't know for sure what

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Speaker 3: happens to Marte. If they move Marte, dinner's a spot

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Speaker 3: for him. If they don't move, tell Marte, then there's

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Speaker 3: really no room. So I think that's why they're letting uh,

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Speaker 3: you know, Scott Bors and them know that, Hey, we're

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Speaker 6: Let me let me ask you this.

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Speaker 5: So it seems like as these trades and free agencies

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Speaker 6: Up, it just seems like it's the same old teams.

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Speaker 5: Uh, you know, Blue Jays are finding ways, the Phillies,

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Speaker 5: the Braves, the Yankees, the Mets. Do you see any

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Speaker 5: if they want somebody, they got to go out and

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Speaker 5: get them and spend Do you see that happening here

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Speaker 2: I saw need some big teams, Like you know, Kansas

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Speaker 2: City has been very aggressive.

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Speaker 3: They're you know, small market. Uh, Atlanta's kind of a

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Speaker 3: dark horse. They've been making moves here. They still got

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Speaker 3: think it were kind of embarrassed and didn't make the

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Speaker 2: And but you're right, it remains of a year ago.

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Speaker 3: Even with guys like a you know, Nolan Arnatto out there,

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Speaker 3: you know what what happens to him, He's get in

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Speaker 2: He was hoping breugnant when not stay with Boston, he

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Speaker 3: If the Diamondbacks don't get Brugman, I think you would

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Speaker 4: Speaking of Boston, are they doing enough when they watched

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Speaker 4: the when they watch the Blue Jays all these signings,

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Speaker 4: they still haven't signed a big league player yet. They're

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Speaker 4: the only team in one of three teams to not

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Speaker 4: they made trades, but are they too much quote in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're sitting to mark at their price.

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Speaker 3: And then Dodgers did that obviously with Diaz, and then

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Speaker 3: Dodgers have done that, you know before, they did that

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Speaker 3: So yeah, they're just being very methodical about it and say,

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Speaker 3: you know what, we'll wait for someone to panic here

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Speaker 2: So and obviously they got plenty of money.

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Speaker 3: They still got that money they ever, you know that

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Speaker 3: you saved on Rafael Devers trade. So I still think

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Speaker 3: they got some tricks at their sleeve. And but you know,

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Speaker 3: it wouldn't be surprised at all to see those moves

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Speaker 4: About the Phillies. Are the Phillies done? They got a

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Speaker 4: Dolis Garcia. I obviously think, you know, if they were

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Speaker 4: a free agent after the season, and something with costianis

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Speaker 4: obviously they filled the Costiano's part. Is there a chance

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Speaker 4: that they move to moving Bomb or the Phillies done and.

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Speaker 7: They like where their lineup is currently.

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Speaker 2: I think the Boom thing would be the X factor.

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Speaker 3: I could see them moving Boom and then, you know,

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Speaker 3: if they want, they could jump in on Bregman sort

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Speaker 3: of thing, because right now they're going to run the

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Speaker 3: same thing back except for Johnson Crawford. He'll be the

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Speaker 3: starting center fielder. They're excited about Garcia. They think he'll

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Speaker 3: bounce back, and hey, what hitter doesn't want to hit?

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Speaker 3: And U says, it's big part of park in Philadelphia,

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Speaker 3: so I would think you'll have a much better year there.

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Speaker 3: So they're mixing up. They about Andrew Paynton rotation. So

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Speaker 3: they made a enough fload of moves. But I think

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Speaker 3: Boom's the only guy who could possibly move and then

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Speaker 3: shake things up even more. But right now, you know,

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Speaker 3: Dave Dombrowski said, we're set, We're not getting more outkillers,

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Speaker 3: and uh, you know, don't really ask them about Boom,

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Speaker 3: but that's certainly a possibility. Uh if they do move Boom,

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Speaker 3: then what what do they do afterwards?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is, you know.

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Speaker 3: I think Baltimore kept that so quiet there, you know,

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Speaker 2: Just that. I think Schwarber said, I want to go

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Speaker 3: But I think if you're really serious about a guy,

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Speaker 3: I think he got totally insense when he found out

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Speaker 2: Once they signed Devin Williams, I know the.

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Speaker 3: Met said, oh, we want We're so interested in I Dias,

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Speaker 3: Let me go to the Dodgers, let me save fifty

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Speaker 2: You could have on somewhere else. He said, let me

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Speaker 3: They're gonna trade me right and let me save sixty

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Speaker 2: Maybe fifty is too low.

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Speaker 1: Last one here? Which side are you on with that game?

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Speaker 1: he's likely going to still be their closer. They're getting

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Speaker 5: I think I think you're one hundred percent right, and

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Speaker 6: I'm from Jersey. I'd like to put you on the

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Speaker 6: I talked to you.

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Speaker 5: Give me, give me something right now that you think,

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Speaker 3: in Toronto. I don't see a big fit with him

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Speaker 3: anywhere else.

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Speaker 1: Todd Father, I heard of Rick Flair woo from you.

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Speaker 6: More is better. I always say, let's go whoo.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, that's a good way to finish it, Bob.

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Speaker 1: Great to chat, and we'll look forward to more reports

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Speaker 1: and updates from you on socials and in USA today

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Speaker 2: I've always guys, take care the.

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Speaker 1: Top Braves podcast for the Atlanta fans out there, it's

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Speaker 1: is doing. Since we all find out together via press release,

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Speaker 1: that's how it works with the Braves, Scott. So let's

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Speaker 1: start here. Are Braves fans happy right now with the

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Speaker 1: off season so far for Atlanta? Given that they usually

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Speaker 1: like to do things early, there might not be much

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Speaker 8: That's a great question, and I would say if you

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Speaker 8: pulled one hundred Braves fans outside of Truesst Park, the

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Speaker 8: answer for the most part would be yes. Now, there's

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Speaker 8: probably fans who have expectations of every big free agent

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Speaker 8: on the market coming to Atlanta, and I don't know

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Speaker 8: how realistic that would be. But if you look at

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Speaker 8: what the Braves have added on the whole, I really

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Speaker 8: like the depth and quantity of editions that they've added

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Speaker 8: so far. And maybe they have one or two more

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Speaker 8: big moves in them.

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Speaker 7: In what area.

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Speaker 4: What's the one or two big moves that because to me,

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Speaker 4: the Kim signing when I saw yesterday, we talked about it.

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Speaker 4: It was about solidifying something that they haven't been able

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Speaker 4: to solidify since they've been to the World Series, and

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Speaker 4: that's the defensive shortstop position. The big move comes in

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Speaker 4: a trade because they're getting up close to that soft

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Speaker 4: salary cap, or the big move comes in dumping some

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Speaker 4: type of salary to then bring in a free agent.

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Speaker 8: So for my money, the big thing that this front

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Speaker 8: office needs to still do is add a starting pitcher

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Speaker 8: to supplement Chris s Ale, Spencer Schwallenbach and Spencer Strider.

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Speaker 8: And it's interesting that other than Dylan C's, the top

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Speaker 8: of the starting pitching market hasn't really moved.

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Speaker 7: A ton yet.

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Speaker 8: I know Merril Kelly signed, I know Sunny Gray was traded,

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Speaker 8: but the kind of the big four of Valdez, Suarez,

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Speaker 8: King and Gallon are still out there and depending on

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Speaker 8: how much twenty the Braves have to spend, and if

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Speaker 8: they're willing to give up a late first round draft

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Speaker 8: pick to sign one of those four, I could see

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Speaker 8: one of them being a worthwhile addition to this team

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Speaker 8: to really pour some fuel on this fire to try

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Speaker 8: to get them back to the top of the NL East.

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Speaker 8: This is a franchise since winning the World Series in

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Speaker 8: twenty twenty one, that has won two playoff games, which

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Speaker 8: is kind of hard to fathom. I think this roster

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Speaker 8: is in pretty good shape now, but clearly adding a

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Speaker 8: starting pitcher, maybe a little bit more to the bullpen

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Speaker 8: would be really a big step in the right direction

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Speaker 8: to getting this team as good as it can possibly

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Speaker 8: be for spring training.

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Speaker 5: Well, let me go along those lines with who they have,

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Speaker 5: the acquisitions and the pickups. Are they back to being

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Speaker 5: legit contenders in the East?

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Speaker 8: I think so. And the reason I've liked to the

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Speaker 8: moves of the offseason so far is it is really

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Speaker 8: raising the floor of this roster because at the end

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Speaker 8: of last year, as disappointing of a season as it was,

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Speaker 8: the Braves just did not have enough depth and versatility

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Speaker 8: on the roster to navigate one hundred and sixty two games,

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Speaker 8: and of course they got crushed by injuries, but they

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Speaker 8: also underperformed significantly. So I think assuming the Braves do

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Speaker 8: add a starting pitcher, I think you can say that

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Speaker 8: this roster is just as good as Phillies or New York.

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Speaker 8: But at the end of the day, they one have

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Speaker 8: to hope that the injuries balance out a little bit

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Speaker 8: in their favor and they don't have their entire starting

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Speaker 8: rotation on the sixty day IL as it was at

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Speaker 8: one point last year, and also hope for healthier seasons.

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Speaker 8: Get Akunya for one hundred and sixty two. Austin Riley

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Speaker 8: has missed significant time the last two years with serious injuries.

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Speaker 8: Ozzie Alby's has been banged up, Michael Harris has missed time.

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Speaker 8: You have to hope that this team not only performs

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Speaker 8: to the level that we've seen in the past, but

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Speaker 8: also just doesn't get half the team on the injured list,

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Speaker 8: because that's been the case the better part of the

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Speaker 8: last two seasons.

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Speaker 4: Two questions I have for it kind of interlock. How

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Speaker 4: will Walt Weiss his promotion to be the manager because

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Speaker 4: he was on the he's been on the bench, he's

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Speaker 4: been around this team, they know him. How will this

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Speaker 4: affect this position player group because this position player group

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Speaker 4: you said, ah, they don't have that depth. Yes, there's injuries,

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Speaker 4: but this team's built similarly to the Dodgers in the

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Speaker 4: sense of position players. They want to play every day.

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Speaker 4: All these guys want to play every day. And nobody's

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Speaker 4: looking to say, oh, okay, yeah, we'll let acoon you

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Speaker 4: take DHS. You know, because you're still have Sean Murphy,

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Speaker 4: you still have Drake Baldwin. Uh, okay, you know, we'll

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Speaker 4: let profar you know what. They're putting some pieces around him.

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Speaker 4: But essentially, how's Walt Weiss going to put his fingerprint

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Speaker 4: on this to mitigate injury? Nobody can eliminate injury, but

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Speaker 4: mitigate it because all these guys want to play one

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Speaker 4: hundred and sixty two.

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Speaker 8: It will be fascinating to see. And that's something that

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Speaker 8: Walt has talked about a few times now since getting

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Speaker 8: the job. I think get the winter meetings, he said that, hey,

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Speaker 8: we want our players to be out there every day,

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Speaker 8: but there's going to come a point in time where

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Speaker 8: we need to get someone off their feet for just

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Speaker 8: one night or utilize the DH and in recent years. One,

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Speaker 8: I don't know if the Braves necessarily had the bench

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Speaker 8: to accommodate multiple days off for these players. And two,

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Speaker 8: now that Marcelo Zuna has left, the organization probably won't

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Speaker 8: be back. Ozuna was dhing virtually every single day of

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Speaker 8: the season. Now they have an open DH spot, and

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Speaker 8: I think Walt Weiss will use that to his advantage.

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Speaker 8: He can rotate Acuna there, he can rotate Profar there,

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Speaker 8: he can rotate mike Yastremsky one of their offseason editions there.

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Speaker 8: And even if Austin Riley likes to go out through

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Speaker 8: every single day, maybe they give Riley an afternoon off

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Speaker 8: and keep them in the DH spot just to keep

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Speaker 8: everybody fresh. I imagine that Weiss will be a little

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Speaker 8: more open to rotating his players in and out of

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Speaker 8: the lineup than Brian Sticker was the last handful of years.

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Speaker 7: How's Mikey Strempsey going to be used? How is this?

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Speaker 4: Because this is a signing of an older player who

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Speaker 4: has shown when he gets consistent at bats, he's more productive.

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Speaker 4: I feel like you don't sign it feels like the

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Speaker 4: position in the fit doesn't match the contract. I feel

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Speaker 4: like the contract matches the player that he is, but

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Speaker 4: the fit on the team. How is this how is

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Speaker 4: this contract going to be? You know, how is it

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Speaker 4: going to parallel to his playing time?

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Speaker 8: So it's funny you say that last night or two

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Speaker 8: nights ago. Rather when Alex and Thopplss met with the

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Speaker 8: media to talk about the Hussan Kim signing, somebody asked

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Speaker 8: about Mike Yustremsky and that role, and in thoughtless pretty

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Speaker 8: much came out and said that the idea is for

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Speaker 8: against right handed pitching, for Yastremsky to play left field

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Speaker 8: most days and have Jerks and Profar become the DH.

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Speaker 8: I think Stromsky is probably a better glove at this

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Speaker 8: point in his career compared to Profar, So you have

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Speaker 8: Ustremsky and left field Profar at DH against lefties where

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Speaker 8: Streemsky maybe wasn't quite as good the last couple of years.

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Speaker 8: That's where I think the lineup change maybe will come

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Speaker 8: into play a bit more. And Thoppelss suggested they would

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Speaker 8: then have Profar play left field and then have one

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Speaker 8: of a handful of guys DH. It could be Sean

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Speaker 8: Murphy once he recovers from hip surgery. It could be

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Speaker 8: Eli White, who's a speedy outfielder who can run into

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Speaker 8: a home run ball. You could even have Mauricio Dubon,

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Speaker 8: or if you want to play Dubon at second base

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Speaker 8: and have Ozzie Alby's DH night or Hasan Kim DH

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Speaker 8: for a night. I really think we're going to see

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Speaker 8: a shift as evidence of both what we Weiss has

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Speaker 8: said and what the Braves have done with their actions

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Speaker 8: this offseason, that we are going to see more of

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Speaker 8: a versatile lineup construction night in a night out, and

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Speaker 8: hopefully that kind of gets the Braves away from these

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Speaker 8: offensive woes they've had the past couple of years.

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Speaker 5: Martin Maldonado is now a special assistant. Can you talk

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Speaker 5: a little bit about what his role is going to

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Speaker 5: be with the Braves moving forward? You know, really good

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Speaker 5: baseball player back in the day, played again him a

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Speaker 5: little bit to talk a little bit about, you know,

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Speaker 5: what his job title is. You know there's been a

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Speaker 5: lot of special assistance for teams, but do you see

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Speaker 5: an expanded role or anything else.

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Speaker 8: I thought it was a fascinating addition, and I think

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Speaker 8: that was announced earlier today, So we'll see the next

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Speaker 8: time Alexanthopolos meets with media and gets to talk about it.

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Speaker 7: A little bit.

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Speaker 8: But I mean, Maldonado has a wealth of baseball knowledge.

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Speaker 8: I mean, there may not be five more guys in

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Speaker 8: the game who have been through more than Maldonado. Of course,

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Speaker 8: very smart behind the plate as a catcher, So I

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Speaker 8: really like the addition. I love the idea of Drake Baldwin,

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Speaker 8: as good as he was as the rookie of the

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Speaker 8: Year this past season, getting to sit with Maldonado and

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Speaker 8: learn from him, as well as Sean Murphy, who's a

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Speaker 8: really when healthy. Murphy has been a really capable catcher

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Speaker 8: and it's fantastic defensively. And we'll see what other areas

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Speaker 8: Maldonado is going to extend himself to. But a worthwhile addition,

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Speaker 8: I believe that Maldonado has talked publicly about wanting to

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Speaker 8: get into either a front office role or a coaching

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Speaker 8: or even manager role one day, and this felt like

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Speaker 8: a natural progression for him, all right.

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Speaker 4: At a re signing Ryce el Iglesias and then signing

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Speaker 4: Robert Suarez to the bullpen Suarez, have the brains mentioned

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Speaker 4: anything about Suarez being more more of the pitcher. They

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Speaker 4: want him to be as an eighth inning guy like

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Speaker 4: he was when the Padres had Hater and he had

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Speaker 4: you know, he had that season in twenty I want

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Speaker 4: to say twenty two, but I'm not one hundred percent

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Speaker 4: sure which year that was. Do they see that or

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Speaker 4: is it more of Ryce Eels here for a year,

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Speaker 4: then Robert Suarez can move into the closer role. And

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Speaker 4: along with that, is there a chance with the injuries

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Speaker 4: from last year that Ronaldo Lopez is seen as maybe

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Speaker 4: a seventh inning guy or is that just they're going

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Speaker 4: to keep him starting pitching, ramp up and see where

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Speaker 4: it goes from there.

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Speaker 8: So I'm really curious to see how Walt Weiss is

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Speaker 8: going to utilize Iglesias and Suarez, because presumably you could

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Speaker 8: use either one and either the eighth or ninth innings,

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Speaker 8: or if you're playing and you've got three really good

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Speaker 8: ritis coming up in the seventh inning, I would imagine

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Speaker 8: the Braves would utilize Suarez to then pitch the seventh

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Speaker 8: inning and then you figure out the eighth and the ninth.

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Speaker 8: That was a fascinating signing for me, I thought once

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Speaker 8: they added Iglesias, even though when Thoplus had said the

652
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Speaker 8: bullpen was a priority for them this offseason. I figured

653
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Speaker 8: they would add a couple of veterans, but I really

654
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 8: did not see the Braves going out and getting maybe

655
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Speaker 8: two of the top five closers on the market. And

656
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Speaker 8: not only that, but there was also a report the

657
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 8: Braves had a five year deal out to Edwin Diaz

658
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Speaker 8: before he ultimately signed with the Dodgers. So clearly the

659
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Speaker 8: bullpen has been an area of focus. And that's a

660
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 8: great question about Ronaldo Lopez. He of course was so

661
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Speaker 8: effective in the bullpen a couple of years ago, comes

662
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Speaker 8: to the Braves in twenty twenty four, was spectacular in

663
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Speaker 8: the rotation. I personally when they added him, I was like, ah,

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Speaker 8: maybe they'll try him in the spring and see if

665
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Speaker 8: he can start. But he was terrific to Era and

666
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 8: then last season, unfortunately, Lopez only made one start, hurt

667
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 8: his shoulder and missed the remainder of the year. So

668
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Speaker 8: it's fascinating to see what the Braves are ultimately going

669
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Speaker 8: to do with Lopez. They could shift him into a

670
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Speaker 8: bullpen roll, and then you think about having Suarez, Iglesias

671
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Speaker 8: and Lopez as you're seven eight nine with Dylan Lee,

672
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Speaker 8: who's a really good lefty mixed in there as well.

673
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Speaker 8: That could be one of the best bullpens in the game.

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Speaker 8: I think ultimately Lopez's future might be dictated by whether

675
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Speaker 8: or not the Braves go out and add a starting

676
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Speaker 8: pitcher in the next couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: Two things come to mind here. First off, was there

678
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Speaker 1: any more to the story about why he ended up

679
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: going to LA and not taking a five year offer.

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming the five year offer was larger than the

681
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Speaker 1: ALA offer. If it's five years, sixty five or whatever,

682
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: I get it. But why would I mean, sure, he

683
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: probably just wanted to go to LA or originally was

684
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Speaker 1: entertaining the Mets. Did we get any more information about

685
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: what happened there? He's been pretty vocal, as you've seen

686
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Speaker 1: since he left the Mess to go to the Dodgers.

687
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Speaker 1: But I don't know if anyone asked him that one yet.

688
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Speaker 8: I don't know if Diaz has directly addressed it. It

689
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 8: was an ESPN report who had the Braves had a

690
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 8: five year offer out to DZ. I would assume the

691
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 8: AAV was probably not the twenty three million dollars that

692
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 8: he got from LA. And you know, if you look

693
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 8: at Diz in his age. Maybe he was looking for

694
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 8: somewhat of a shorter deal so then he can hit

695
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 8: the market one more time for a bigger contract. But

696
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 8: that was an eye raiser for sure. I know we

697
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 8: talked about it on Hammer Territory on our Brave show.

698
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 8: It was like, wow, they apparently it was just one report,

699
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 8: but apparently we're very serious about adding Diaz. And that

700
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 8: was after they had signed Iglesias and before they signed Suarez.

701
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 8: So it feels like they went for DZ and then

702
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 8: kind of struck out and then went for maybe the

703
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 8: next best thing on the market and added Robert Suarez,

704
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 8: who certainly has a long list on his baseball card

705
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 8: as well.

706
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Speaker 1: And then you know what came to mind, Scott. I

707
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: listened to the show as frequently as possible. I remember

708
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: the beginning of this season in twenty twenty five, this

709
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: past year, and the conversations about the bullpen usage in

710
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,240
Speaker 1: the first week. And sure you can slice and dice

711
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: and be critical of Brian Snicker, but the AMMO that

712
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: he had at times was not the best. Who was it?

713
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: Gosh with the difficult name to pronounce on the front end,

714
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: The first name you'll know who I'm talking about. There

715
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: was a lot of debate about how to use him,

716
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:33,439
Speaker 1: and I'm just like.

717
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 8: An yelle, yeah, on yell. Delos Santos was out there.

718
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 8: They had Rafael Montero, they picked up, they had I

719
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 8: mean Scott to give you an idea of where this

720
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 8: bullpen was, and no disrespect because this guy's had a

721
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 8: hell of a career, but Hector Naris threw a one

722
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 8: run ballgame on opening Day, on the seventh inning, and

723
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 8: it went very poorly. I think you saw five batters,

724
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 8: the Padres scored three runs, and he was out of

725
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 8: the game. So that was kind of the state of

726
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 8: this bullpen. It was just not good enough. And I

727
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 8: mean early on in the season, especially Atlanta could just

728
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 8: not win a close game.

729
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: This is a big difference from our conversation right now. Sure,

730
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,240
Speaker 1: injuries can happen and things can change for guys, but damn,

731
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: what you just described sounds a lot better than not

732
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 1: mid season the first week of the season for Atlanta.

733
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Speaker 1: I think that part's important, since the first week was

734
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: kind of the end of the season. I don't want

735
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: to go that harsh, but man, they dug up a hole.

736
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: They never truly climbed out of it. They had their

737
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: moments in the second half, but anyway, good stuff. That's

738
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,240
Speaker 1: why you got to listen to the show. They're dialed,

739
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: so Scott good catching up man. Appreciate it.

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00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, thanks, guys, really enjoyed the show, and happy holidays

741
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 8: to you all.

742
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: In your families. Hey, we didn't get to this yet,

743
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 1: but I want to. I know you love that the

744
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: little PB and Jay homemade from Todd Father. But let's

745
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: start with our boy, Tyler Glass. Now we talked to

746
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: pretty frequently on the show, popped up in some trade rumors.

747
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: Tyler is a very straight shooter, as you can tell

748
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: on interviews. I mean, he tells it like it is.

749
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: That's why he's beloved. Sounds like he had a conversation

750
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 1: with the Dodgers and had the result that he was

751
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:11,879
Speaker 1: looking for.

752
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 9: Seeing some rumors are I would get traded for him,

753
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 9: So it's like, I don't know what to believe. I've

754
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 9: talked to Andrew in my front office and they're like, no,

755
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 9: you're not You're not going anywhere. So they told me

756
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 9: I'm not going to get traded, and I trust them.

757
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 9: So that's obviously a nice feeling. I think to anytime

758
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 9: I do get like overwhelmed or stress at baseball, I

759
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 9: think sometimes it's nice to just be able to like

760
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 9: zoom out and be like, dude, what are you freaking

761
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 9: out about? Like you're literally living your dream playing in

762
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 9: Dodger stadiums.

763
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: So Tyler Glass Now, and that was on MLB Network Radio,

764
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: by the way, shout out to them for the interview.

765
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: But what do we think of Glass now? Just letting

766
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: everyone know I'm not being traded Todd Father. Things can happen,

767
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: but I will say there are many organizations that will

768
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 1: have a conversation like this and make sure that they

769
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: create an out if there's a real conversation going on

770
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: with other teams. Do you feel the same way. There's

771
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: some organizations or gms that don't give a fuck, but

772
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: there are many that say, hey, I'm respectful of a

773
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: guy that I signed to an extension. He's very vocal

774
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: in the media. If we feel like there's a little

775
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: bit of smoke, we'll tell him, hey, dude, there is

776
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,439
Speaker 1: a chance, so you do with that what you want.

777
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: I mean, he might tell everyone that, or he might

778
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: not come out so strongly and say, hey, I'm not

779
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: getting traded. All of this is to say, I believe

780
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 1: Tyler getting the insight from the Dodgers that he is

781
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 1: not on the trade block.

782
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 5: I believe that too him and you're only My trust

783
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 5: goes by your word. And you know, if somebody in

784
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 5: the brass and the organization is going to tell me

785
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 5: I'm not getting traded, I'm gonna take that and be

786
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 5: happy with it, or said whatever that player wanted. But

787
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 5: as a player, you have every right to ask and

788
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 5: have a conversation with whomever you want in that organization.

789
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 5: It's your livelihood and the business part on the other

790
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 5: side too. You can be honest with him as of

791
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 5: right now, you're not getting traded. But you know, you

792
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 5: got to take the words and how they were played

793
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 5: in context, and you got to go with your gut

794
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 5: too as well. So to have a conversation with you know,

795
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,280
Speaker 5: the GM or president or whatever it is about your future,

796
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 5: nothing wrong with that. Nothing wrong with that, And nobody

797
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 5: should take that as a good or bad thing. I mean,

798
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 5: for me, it's a good thing knowing that you care

799
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 5: and you you know, you want to know what's going on,

800
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 5: especially a guy that's been playing for a long time.

801
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 5: They have every single right to ask that question, and

802
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 5: I thought it was fair.

803
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 4: Gone of the days when I first got called up

804
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 4: or even first drafted, and GMS would walk through or

805
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 4: president of Baseball Operations would walk through the club ass

806
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 4: and you go, I hope he doesn't.

807
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 7: Talk to me. Did you see he just talked to Todd?

808
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 7: What's happening like?

809
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 4: Now they're more they're more accessible. Now they're willing to

810
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,919
Speaker 4: take a phone call. Obviously, it's a little bit different

811
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 4: when you sign a guy to a four year, one

812
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 4: hundred and fourteen I think million dollar, one hundred and

813
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 4: fifteen million dollar extension. Let's put this way, the Dodgers

814
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,439
Speaker 4: can easily come Yeah, today, you're not getting traded. If

815
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 4: somebody comes calling to the Dodgers and says, we would

816
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 4: love to have Tyler Glass now for the last two

817
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 4: years of his contract, even though he only made nineteen starts,

818
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:27,240
Speaker 4: and before that, the year before that he made twenty

819
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 4: two starts. Year before that he made twenty one start.

820
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 4: So if somebody comes and says, yes, we would like

821
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 4: to trade for him, and it's the right package, I

822
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 4: believe that Andrew Friedman or whoever he called, you know,

823
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 4: wherever there's Gomes or Andrew Freeman, like they would call

824
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,919
Speaker 4: him and be like, hey, so and so came came

825
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 4: asking about you. They have no right they have They

826
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,760
Speaker 4: have no reason that they can't that they would need

827
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 4: to keep Glass now.

828
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 7: They have an.

829
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:59,760
Speaker 4: Incredible amount of starting pitching, so if somebody comes asking

830
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 4: for you can still be traded just because they said no,

831
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 4: you're not being traded. That's the information they know today.

832
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,280
Speaker 4: Once all these free agent pitchers are gone, maybe somebody says,

833
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 4: we'd love to have Tyler Glass now for twenty to

834
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 4: twenty five starts, and I think the Dodgers would do

835
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 4: something with us.

836
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 6: I don't know.

837
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 1: I think they want to roll with the same thing.

838
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: I think Glass now is super valuable and most valuable

839
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 1: to the Dodgers because they can handle him with enough

840
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: care to make sure that he is prepared for the postseason.

841
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: I know it wasn't done the year before, but they

842
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: did a nice job on that this year. I mean,

843
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: this is a guy who, you know, no secret, has

844
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 1: struggled to stay on the field to give consistent innings.

845
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,720
Speaker 1: And you know what, Kratz, I think part of learning

846
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: how to best utilize your assets is that they're not

847
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,280
Speaker 1: all the same. Tyler glasnow's not a two hundred inning pitcher.

848
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: If you want him to be a two hundred inning pitcher,

849
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: you're likely going to break the arm before you really

850
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: need it.

851
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 4: In October, if somebody comes asking for your pitcher, who

852
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 4: is probably right now, you're number four in a playoff rotation.

853
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 4: I'm just saying.

854
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: Four pitches like a one, and you pitch him in.

855
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 7: I'm not saying he doesn't.

856
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm telling you in the in the scope of

857
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 4: Tyler Glass now on another team is untradable. They will

858
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 4: not trade him because he needs to throw significant innings.

859
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 4: And I'm not saying he's not gonna throw significant innings

860
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 4: in the playoffs for your team. You just have to

861
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:40,479
Speaker 4: realize on the scale of value, he is number four.

862
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 4: I think they have Blake Snell over him, obviously, Show

863
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 4: Hayes over him, and Yamamoto, they all some of their parts.

864
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 4: They all work together because Yamamoto can't throw. But once

865
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 4: every six days show Hey, they're gonna they're gonna make

866
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 4: sure he's probably on a six day rotation too, so

867
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:01,760
Speaker 4: they fit in very well together.

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00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 7: I get that. But Tyler Glass now on.

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00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 4: His own out in an island nobody trades him because

870
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 4: of where he's at. If somebody comes and says, we

871
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 4: really want what you have and are willing to meet

872
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 4: the price prospects, you know, they don't care about cash.

873
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 4: But I think he could be available because he is

874
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 4: a valuable pitcher that will help a team win playoff games,

875
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 4: because that, to me, that's where his superpower is. You

876
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 4: bring that in in the playoffs and you're you're talking

877
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 4: about ten punchies.

878
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 7: In a five inning, five inning outing in the playoffs.

879
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: Right, and then you have people bringing up the schoogle aspect. Oh,

880
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: if they trade for him, then maybe he trade Classter

881
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 1: or maybe Classner even goes back in a deal to Detroit.

882
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: Here Schumacher one ninety. Why trade for Glass now? When

883
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: Ranger Suarez is a free agent. Their numbers are very

884
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: come pro Bowl just just like I said more and

885
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: I guess they're a little bit similar on not being

886
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: two hundred in guys, Rangers Farrez has had some injuries, crafts,

887
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 1: you can speak well to him, you watch him a

888
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:13,879
Speaker 1: lot when he's pitching for Philly. But I mean some

889
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: teams are gonna value Glass now higher, and some teams

890
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: are gonna value Suarez higher, and they're also going to

891
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: look at what the rate is. I don't know what

892
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: Suarz is gonna end up getting. He's probably gonna get

893
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 1: more than what Glass Now is oh the rest of.

894
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:29,280
Speaker 4: The way, overall the life of the contract.

895
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, but not AAV.

896
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 4: He won't get as much as Glass now is getting.

897
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:38,280
Speaker 4: I think he's let's see twenty five twenty nine million,

898
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 4: I think he's getting I'm not sure that math. That

899
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 4: math doesn't math right now, but anyway, probably not AV.

900
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 4: But why wouldn't you. It's exactly the same reason I said,

901
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 4: Once these free agent pitchers are gone, teams are going

902
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 4: to be like, wait a minute, I still do want

903
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 4: to make the playoffs. And there's a very few of

904
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,439
Speaker 4: them that won't have made a move and that want

905
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 4: to make the playoffs. But he has value and some

906
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 4: teams might see that value there. I'm not saying like

907
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 4: a team that tries to go after Ranger Suarez is

908
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 4: going to look up and a ton of teams analytically

909
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 4: look at don't look necessarily at what Ranger Suarez's production

910
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 4: is and what Tyler Glassnow's production is. It's more of

911
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 4: the stuff whoa We're enamored by the super shiny car.

912
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 4: No matter what the actual speed of the car is,

913
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 4: We're enamored by the super shiny car. The fact that

914
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 4: Tyler Glass now could go out and dominate on any

915
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 4: given night. And I think Ranger Squarz is a great

916
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 4: option also. But once those guys are off the list,

917
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 4: now we start thinking about, well, maybe we need we

918
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,760
Speaker 4: need one more guy? Like does it like do the Orioles?

919
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 4: If the price was more palatable, would the Orioles want

920
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 4: to trade for him? Will the Orioles want to add

921
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 4: him to their rotation? Yes, if they think they're on

922
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 4: the doorstep of winning playoff series and not just making

923
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 4: playoff series, Yes, they would want to trade.

924
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 1: For You want a shiny car, I'll give you one

925
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 1: more for spreading rumors. John hamon tweeting about Mason Miller.

926
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 1: Many teams, including the Mets, are inquiring on Mason Miller,

927
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: one of the top few arms in MLB and the

928
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 1: hardest thrower. The Padres will listen, but they love him

929
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 1: as much as anyone and would need to be overwhelmed.

930
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: Craft will start with you just because you were on

931
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: with us yesterday and when we spoke to Ken Rosenthal

932
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: about the Padres, and then Todd Father can piggyback off

933
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: what you learned from Ken yesterday and combo that with

934
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: John Hayman's word. I mean, it's really cute and nice

935
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 1: to be interested in someone is their world. That creates

936
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: this lane for the Padres to trade him. I mean,

937
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: like any GM says, blow me away, right, if they

938
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 1: get a better offer than what they gave away from

939
00:45:56,239 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 1: Mason Miller last year, Plus it enables them to backfill

940
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: some needs within their current ball club. Sure, but.

941
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,760
Speaker 10: I mean you could see it like you could see

942
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 10: the mega package and make it hurt. The Padres did

943
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 10: that last year, right, They gave up a prospect who

944
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 10: could end up being the top prospect in the sport.

945
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 10: You know within a year or so from now that

946
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:21,760
Speaker 10: the A's will get to enjoy.

947
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 1: But I have a hard time seeing this as the

948
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: move that they make. If they're going to do something,

949
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: they're going to try and clear payroll. Mason Miller's not

950
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 1: making that much money yet.

951
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 4: And that's why, you know, unless you're saying, okay, the

952
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 4: Mets will take on Xander Baulgart's and they throw in

953
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 4: you know, they'll take all of Xander's contract and they

954
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 4: throw in Mason Miller like that is like that's bizarro

955
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 4: world to me. I just don't think. I don't see

956
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 4: something like that. You know, we obviously know that Tatis

957
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 4: is not available. We know that, or we think that

958
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 4: Machado not available. So do the Mets say, Xander, you're

959
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 4: gonna go play third base like you did when you

960
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,399
Speaker 4: were nineteen years old and help the Red Sox win

961
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:10,240
Speaker 4: a World Series?

962
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 7: Or is it something that.

963
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 4: Of course everybody wants Mason Miller. Everybody ever since he

964
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 4: started throwing a billion miles an hour, everyone said.

965
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 7: Ooh, you know you're really they're leaning towards Mason Miller.

966
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 4: The Padres got him, The Padres paid a steep price

967
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 4: for him, and they're not getting rid of him. It's

968
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 4: why they didn't have to go and resign Robert Suarez.

969
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:36,439
Speaker 4: He's part of this still elite bullpen that they've constructed

970
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 4: at a low price. Jeremiah Strata and Mason Miller are

971
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 4: making nothing encloser and set up guy Dollars. Even if

972
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 4: Major League Baseball has colluded. To me, it's Mason Miller,

973
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 4: you know, stop just stop. Of course you're intrigued about him.

974
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 4: He throws one hundred and four miles an hour, and

975
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,479
Speaker 4: there's rumors that he wants to or they could start. Yes,

976
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 4: you want to see one hundred and four mile an

977
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 4: hour starter, but stop. The Mets aren't getting the Mets,

978
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 4: andres aren't getting rid of them unless you're taking on

979
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,919
Speaker 4: the contract that they deem the worst. And I'm saying

980
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 4: they would deem the Xander Bogart's contract as the worst.

981
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 7: But I still think he has value to that team.

982
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think a lot of people saw

983
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 1: this coming Todd father from last year's trade deadline, that

984
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: Mason Miller would be done. Maybe we were naive because

985
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: it's the A's, but I don't think a lot of

986
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 1: people saw him being traded.

987
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 5: No, I mean, who would trade this guy. He's He's

988
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 5: one of the best closers and relievers in baseball. It

989
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 5: throws the hardest. Any team should be on his tail

990
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,760
Speaker 5: if there's an opportunity to put them on their squad.

991
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 5: Get rid of all your prospects. And I said this

992
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 5: about Garret Crochet. You know last year their prospects. Get

993
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,240
Speaker 5: rid of them for a guy like this, Yes, yes, yes,

994
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 5: and more.

995
00:48:53,760 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, Leo debrees last or this past season at

996
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: the trade deadline. I mean the prize. There were others too,

997
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: but he was the prize package, prize part of the package.