1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host, 3 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Podcast. I'm 4 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan, and this is episode number three. 5 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: Today in the show, we're here for fresh radio, in 6 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: which we're getting updates from hunters all across the country 7 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: on the latest deer activity, current conditions, and the tactics 8 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: that can work for you right now. All right, welcome 9 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: to the Wired to Hunt Podcast. I'm well, I already 10 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: said that I'm your host, Mark Kenyan. You already heard 11 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: that in intro. What I'm trying to stay here is 12 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 1: the Wired Podcast is brought to you by on X 13 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: and Uh, I'm off my game today, but it's for 14 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: good reason. It's been a busy few days, uh, because 15 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: I've had some hunting success. And with me is Spencer 16 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: new Hearth, who has had some hunting success. And we're 17 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: here for fresh radio in which we're gonna get to 18 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: some reports very soon from hunters all across the country, 19 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,559 Speaker 1: getting us updates on what is happening in the white 20 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: tailed woods. Spencer, what's happening your white tail woods? Though? 21 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: Kick us off with some good news, could you? Yeah? Um, well, 22 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: I think two weeks ago, Mark, you and I tagged 23 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: a buck for the first time ever, maybe in like 24 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: the same couple of days span, and then we did 25 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: it again this week. You killed tran in Michigan and 26 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 1: I just killed a buck in Montana. Um. The thing 27 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: that yeah, yeah, it's syncd up rout um. The movement. 28 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: The movement was good. Um, it was kind of it 29 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: was the kind of situation and the kind of movement 30 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: that you would sort of only encounter at the end 31 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: of November. And what I mean by that is these 32 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: deer weren't in like an amazing place as far as 33 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: what this property was. It pretty poor cover, but it 34 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: had some food. Um, and the weather has been really 35 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: mild here, so deer weren't like super congregated. But there 36 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: were these number of different dough groups out in this field. 37 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: And as studies have shown in the past that this 38 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: is the time of year, the end of November, when 39 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: mature bucks will take the most risks. Mississippi State University 40 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 1: specifically showed UM on some radio collar deer that two 41 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: and a half year old and three and a half 42 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: yield bucks take the most risk during peak rut, but 43 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: four and a half and older bucks take the most 44 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: take the most risk during post runt um. So what 45 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 1: I had kind of witnessed was that sort of thing. 46 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: There were this dough groups feeding out into this field, 47 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: and although I could glass these basket racks that were, 48 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: you know, largely uninterested and sort of bedded in a 49 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: fence line, there was a mature buck out in this 50 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: field that we're hounding them, and they were he was 51 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: going from dough group to doe group until he wound 52 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: up in the doe group that was in my lap. 53 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 1: And that was sort of like, you know, this is 54 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: the only time of year that you would sort of 55 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: see that thing happen with a mature buck out there 56 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: chasing and looking um and then the other box just 57 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: sort of sitting on the sideline. Yeah, that's that's an 58 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: interesting observation. And you're absolutely right. Those studies certainly back 59 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: up what I've seen anecdotally that you know, later in 60 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,399 Speaker 1: November and even the very beginning December, it could be 61 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: a little bit slower. I mean, generally it is slower 62 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: than it would be on November seven or something. But 63 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: when you do see a buck that's still on a 64 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: dough or is out cruising. It almost always seems to 65 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: be one of those older deer I can point to 66 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: year after year having that kind of thing happened, and 67 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: even places where there's not tons of mature bucks. Um 68 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: and and something pretty similar to that is what happened 69 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: to me a couple of days ago. Um, which which 70 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: I won't cover today, but next week's podcast I will 71 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: have the full story of my hunt. Um. But yeah, 72 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: I like my big reminder to myself over the last week, 73 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: and if I was still hunting, what I'd be telling 74 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: myself for next week is just that the game's not over. 75 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: The buzzer has not sounded. They're still good stuff going, 76 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: they're still running activity happening. Um. You know, there's like 77 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: you just described, there's these mature bucks that they know 78 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: that there's still a few doughs that are going to 79 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: be in heat. They've been around the block, they've seen it, 80 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: they've experienced it, and they are determined to ah, you know, 81 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: spread their genes as much as they possibly can, so 82 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 1: they're gonna keep at it. So you have that going 83 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 1: for you, and then fast forward about a week and 84 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: we get into December, and then you're gonna have the 85 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: situation wherein at least healthy balanced dear populations, you're gonna 86 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: have those dough fonds that will come into estrus about 87 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: a month after most of the adults did, so you 88 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: can get these fawns that we not always but you're 89 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: gonna have a handful of these dear p thing into heat. 90 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 1: You know that first we could December, sometimes the second 91 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: week in December, and if you have that, you can 92 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: get this big flurry of of almost November type running 93 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 1: activity around that day or two when that happens. Um 94 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 1: So I would definitely still be out there. I would 95 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: definitely still be looking for that kind of activity. For 96 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: me at this time of year, I'm thinking thick, nasty cover. 97 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: I'm thinking any kind of sanctuary where you know, these 98 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: deer that have been pressured for the last month by 99 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: a lot of hunters, whether that be just rut bow 100 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: hunters or gun hunters. That's where a lot of this 101 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: activity is going to kind of flock too, because they're 102 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: trying to get away from people. But then, secondly, the 103 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: best food source. Almost the entire deer herd is starting 104 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: to think more and more about food now after the 105 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: run everything everybody needs to kind of refuel. So finding 106 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 1: like what that hot food sources right now, if you 107 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: can get those two things together, some type of relatively 108 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: unpressured spot mixed with like the premier food source for 109 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: the moment, that is a recipe p for success. UM. 110 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: And you know I wrote that to success recently. I've 111 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: written that to success a couple of years ago. UM 112 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: with a fawn popping in the heat, and I killed 113 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: that big frank buck UM on a food source doing 114 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: that exact thing. So don't give up, folks, It's there's 115 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: still some good things ahead. Yeah, and you mentioned finding 116 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: a sanctuary in their market. I think that is probably 117 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 1: the number one thing to look for right now. UM. 118 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: All season on Red Fresh Radio we talk about weather 119 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 1: and moon UM and crop status in different food sources. 120 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: But right now, I would say the greatest outside factor 121 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: determining buck movement and deer movement in general is just 122 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 1: what the hunting pressure has been like now, maybe more 123 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: than ever, there are more gun seasons open across the country. UM. 124 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: State agencies sort of intentionally have their gun seasons happen 125 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: over you know, the week of Thanksgiving, because it gives 126 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: more people a chance to be in the woods, and so, uh, 127 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: we're now in that, and that means that there's going 128 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: to be as many hunters, you know, in the woods, 129 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: you know, last week, this week, next week, as there 130 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: are throughout the entire season. So finding a place that 131 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: other people are whether it's just an overlooked slew that 132 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: people wouldn't think would hold dear, or it's just hunting 133 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: on a Wednesday instead of a Saturday, avoiding hunting pressure 134 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: is probably the best thing you can try to do 135 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, Yeah, that's that's the truth. It's not 136 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: terribly complicated. It's just looking at the simple facts of 137 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: of what Dear need and want. They want nutrition right 138 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: now and they want to get away from people find 139 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: it and uh, off you go. So I we're you know, 140 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: we're also kind of getting back into soon here, and 141 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: I guess I'm interested to hear what the guests have 142 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: to say today. But you mentioned a few weeks ago, 143 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: how you know, in early November, mid November, it's kind 144 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: of like it's gonna be gung ho just about everywhere. 145 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: These report wars we're getting aren't necessarily going to tell 146 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: you about something surprising. We are re entering a phase 147 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: of the year where we might hear something from someone 148 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: that is surprising that we could take advantage of, or 149 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: we might have one of those fronts coming next week 150 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: in December that could have really supercharged things again. So 151 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: I bring that up simply to say that I am 152 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: even more excited than I have been over the past 153 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: couple of weeks to hear from the folks today, because 154 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: I'm curious about what people are thinking about these next 155 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: seven days as as we are in that transition. I 156 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: think we're in a transition phase from that peak rut 157 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: type of hunting that we've had the last three or 158 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: four weeks into this new part of the year. So 159 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: who do we have coming up, Spencer? We have Adam 160 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: Keith from Landing Legacy in Missouri, than Ryan Nates from 161 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: Florida Outdoor Experience in Florida, and then in New Jersey 162 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: it's Greg Litzinger from bow Hunting Fiend, and then Dilan 163 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: Lands from Breaking Point TV in Wisconsin. Nice, Uh, is 164 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,079 Speaker 1: there anything else you want to cover from a deer 165 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: perspective before we I've got a couple of little updates 166 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: for people I want to share, but anything year related 167 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: before we get into that one final thing Um, I 168 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: didn't give a lot of details on how I killed 169 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: my buck this last weekend in Montana, but there's a 170 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 1: whole story behind it. Um that has to do with 171 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 1: whether or not you believe in karma and an owl 172 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: that was crucified in a barbed wire fence and the 173 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,839 Speaker 1: Montana Raptor Conservation Center and all that stuff. And actually 174 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: talked about it on the Meat Eater podcast that will 175 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: drop next week. UM, So if you listen to that, 176 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: you'll hear sort of the more entertaining side of that 177 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: hunt rather than the informative side of that hunt. And 178 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: so that's my plug for the next Meat Eater podcast 179 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: on I'm on, which I think is November. Sounds interesting. Uh, 180 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: We're gonna keep the plugs going because we are coming 181 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: into the holiday weekend, which means two things. Means shopping 182 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: opportunities for a lot of people, and then secondly, it 183 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: means maybe a little free time to kick back and 184 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: enjoy some deer hunting content. Uh. So barre with me 185 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: for some plug. Number one, our third episode of the 186 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: back forty this year came out a few days ago. 187 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: That one's got our buddy Tony Peterson out there with me. 188 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: As we're prepping the farm for hunting season, putting up stands, 189 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,839 Speaker 1: checking trail cameras, getting a tower blind set up from 190 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: my dad really sets up everything that I know you 191 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: guys have heard in the podcast happened. Um, So check 192 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: that one out. And then this coming Sunday, which is 193 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: the twenty nine. They think the episode with my dad's 194 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: hunt is dropping. That one's awesome. It's it was a 195 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: really special experience to share with him, and I'm really 196 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 1: excited to be able to share with you guys. So 197 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: check out the back forty good stuff coming there. Um. 198 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: In other news, we have a couple of different interesting 199 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: sales running over at the Mediator. Within the Mediator world, 200 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: I guess you could say we got a Black Friday 201 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: sale going on from Friday through Monday over at the 202 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: Mediator website off almost everything on the website, So going 203 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: over to the meat eater dot com for that. There's 204 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: also a Black Friday stale going on for First Light. 205 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: I think you're calling the gravy Boat Sail. So if 206 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 1: you want some new hunting gear, if you've been seeing 207 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: the stuff that Spencer and I've been wearing and you 208 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: want to get I don't know, maybe like the Chamberlain 209 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: puffy jacket or the Sanctuary bibbs for late season deer hunting. Uh, 210 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: this is a great time to do it again. It's 211 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: close to site wide off a bunch of stuff. So 212 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,959 Speaker 1: that's all over at First Light dot com. Uh what else? 213 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: I think? The only other big thing is that over 214 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: you know, the whole Mediator team contributed in one way 215 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: or another. Two. The newest book by Steve Rinella, The 216 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: Will the Mediator Guide to Wilderness Skills and Survival. Is 217 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: that right, Spencer? That's correct? So that's coming out any 218 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 1: day now too. I think December one, I think somewhere 219 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: around there. So a lot of interesting things coming up. 220 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: You can see it all over the media dot com 221 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: as well as bunch of articles by Spencer and I too. 222 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: So those are my spiels and I'm gonna send folks 223 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 1: to check out Spencer anything else people should be looking for? No, uh, 224 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: like I hope our listeners do. I'm taking advantage of 225 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 1: our sales and pretty much every Christmas gift for people 226 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: in my life that I buy Christmas gifts for getting 227 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: something from First Light or Meat Eater. So there's a 228 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: whole diverse group of stuff on our website and First Light, 229 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: so I hope you will find something there as well. Yeah, 230 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: not to mention my book, that Wild Country. It's for 231 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 1: sale in the media website. To Spencer, that's what you 232 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: should buy, all your buddies, I'll buy you. I'll buy you. 233 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: Don't want to I don't want to copy. I've got 234 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: too damn many of those things sitting on myself already. 235 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: And then I'll sign it. Okay, now that would be interesting, 236 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: all right. I think let's get to our interviews this week. 237 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:42,959 Speaker 1: Mark sounds good, Thanks Spencer. Our interviews this week are 238 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: presented by Trophy Ridge. Head over to trophy Ridge dot 239 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: com to check out there all new for one lineup 240 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 1: of top of the line releases from t Handles to 241 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,719 Speaker 1: Risk Releases. They have a premium option for everyone. That's 242 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: trophy Ridge dot com. Alright, and joining us on the 243 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 1: line first is Adam Keith from Landing Legacy in Missouri. Now, 244 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: Adam and Missouri, what would you say the buck activity 245 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: has been Lateley, On a scale of one to ten, 246 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: I would say probably around a six or seven. You know, 247 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 1: if you asked me a week ago out, I said 248 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 1: a lot closer to ten But we've kind of just 249 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: gone through Missouri firearms season, so a ten day rifle 250 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: season where it's the most hunting pressure that the deer 251 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 1: will experience through the course of the fall. Um. But 252 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: we are still kind of on the tail end of 253 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: peak breeding, the peak rut, So there's still pretty good 254 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 1: movement depending on where you're at. But if you're on 255 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: a property that's been over hunted or or has experienced 256 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: a lot of hunting, the buck movement is probably a 257 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 1: little bit slower, um, just just because of the hunting pressure, 258 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: not because of um the rut being over, the rut 259 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: is kind of tailing off. Now we're kind of going 260 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: in a post rut. But you could still get some 261 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: pretty good hunts depending on what the buckado ratio is 262 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: and and just overall what the type of habitat that 263 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: you're dealing with on your hunting property. Do you notice 264 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: the shift in bedding it all following Missouri's ten day 265 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: gun season. Absolutely. Um. You know, before guns season hits, 266 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna have some uh, the betting could be a 267 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: little bit hit or miss. But um as to now, 268 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: after gun season, if you're looking for the best betting, 269 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: it's like find the thickest stuff you can find in 270 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: the area, and that's where you're gonna find a majority 271 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: of the deer. What food sources are most relevant right 272 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: now for deer hunters in Missouri right now, as we, 273 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: like I said, shift out a gun season, it's that 274 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: green um. So if you've got winter wheat fields or 275 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: braska field, it seems like that's the most attractive food source. 276 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: We haven't endured um extremely cold temperatures to put them 277 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: really on standing soybeans or standing grain, at least here 278 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: in southern Missouri. Guy is in the northern part of 279 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: the state might be experiencing that, but for us here 280 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: in the in the southern southern part of the state, 281 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: it's it's greens. It's green fields, green food sources. What 282 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: are you seeing for signmaking right now? It's kind of 283 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: tapered off. Um. The scrapes and rubs aren't as um 284 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: aren't as popular. You're not seeing as much of that 285 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: signmaking going on. But I anticipate that some of that 286 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: will pick back up as we get you know, there's 287 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: less hunters in the woods, and deer can kind of 288 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: go back to their own thing. You typically see some 289 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: scrapes start to clear back up as a majority of 290 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: the dos are being bred and bucks are now searching 291 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: for there's those last few doughs to breed and the 292 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: latter part of November. Historically in late November and early 293 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: December d s stronger buck movement in the morning or 294 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: the evening in Missouri. I would that would be uh 295 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: year to year. I would say whether dependent Right now 296 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: this year with it being a little bit more mild, 297 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: I would say in the morning is the better time 298 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: for movement evenings if if it's a cooler evenings shore um. 299 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: But right now, if I was banking on it and 300 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: I only had to, I could only hunt the morning 301 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: or evening, I would be going in morning. I know 302 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: you've run a lot of trail cameras. Where do you 303 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: want those game camps set up as we exit the rut? 304 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: For me, as I go into the rut and then 305 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: out of the rut and until late season when I 306 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: start getting really really cold temperatures, I have my best 307 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: cameras set up on food sources close to betting um 308 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: or it could be scrapes close to betting. I want 309 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: my trail cameras focused as closely as possible to known 310 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: betting areas because I know that's where the deer are 311 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: going to be. Food sources could change, but thick cover, 312 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: thick betting doesn't change, and that's where a majority of 313 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: the deer will be. So if I've got those trail 314 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: cameras set up next to those areas, I can monitor 315 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: would bucks are in what betting area? Typically, as we 316 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: get into December, do you expect to see any new 317 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: bucks show up or leave or is that kind of 318 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 1: over with for the year. It depends on in my opinion, 319 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 1: it depends on the food source. If you have a 320 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: really attractive food source that can't be found on adjacent farms, 321 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: then you will have new bucks show up and hopefully stay, 322 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: depending on how long you can hold that deer herd 323 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 1: on your food source. So for me, I have a 324 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: big bottom field of soybeans. There's nothing else in my 325 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: area like it, and I'm totally anticipating new bucks and 326 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 1: have already experienced them smaller bucks, no hit listeners yet, 327 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 1: but they're gonna move in hopefully um sometime in December 328 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 1: and and and it'll be right for the picking come 329 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: muzzleloader season in late December going forward. Then this next 330 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: week or So what do you think that Buck ACTV 331 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 1: is going to be on a scale of one to 332 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: ten in Missouri one to tend in Missouri. If we 333 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: get the weather front that it looks like, um that 334 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: we could get, I would think it would move up. 335 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 1: I'm anticipated moving up to an eight or and nine. Um, 336 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: hopefully we get this cooler weather and if it gets 337 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: if that happens, and um, I would think that next 338 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 1: week is going to be better than even last week, 339 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,239 Speaker 1: even though we're with each day we're moving further and 340 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: further away from peak Rutt. If we get the right weather, 341 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 1: it should be awesome. All right, Adam, I like your optimism. 342 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 1: Good luck with the rest of your season, and thanks 343 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: for joining me. Appreciate it anytime, alright and joining us 344 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: on the line. Next is Ryan Knits from Florida Outdoor 345 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: Experience in Florida. Now, Ryan in Florida, what would you 346 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 1: say the Buck activities Ben Leley on a scale of 347 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: one to ten right now? Today it's about a two 348 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: three at best. Um, mostly are run down here. It's done. 349 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: It starts early in August and September, and you know 350 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: it was it was pretty spot on this year and 351 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 1: lately we just had a lot of rain and wind 352 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: and it's pretty much shut things completely down as of 353 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: right now. How about for the rest of the state. 354 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 1: I know you have some from biological clocks in Florida. 355 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: What phase of the rout is the rest of Florida? 356 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: In absolutely, Florida is a huge state. So I'm in 357 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,959 Speaker 1: the most southern region, Like I said, we're pretty much done. Um. 358 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: Now when you get to the central northern central region, Um, 359 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 1: there there is some action going down right now. I 360 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: had a buddy kill a buck chasing the dough about 361 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: three days ago. Um. And then you've got the Panhandle, 362 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: that's the very farthern you know, northwestern hand part of 363 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 1: the region. And I would say, um, and about two 364 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: to three weeks you're gonna start seeing it really pop 365 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: off there. Do you see a lot of signmaking in Florida? Yea. 366 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: So down here, Um, this year has been abnormally wet. Um. 367 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 1: This is the wet if I've seen it in probably 368 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 1: five or six years typically in November down here, Um, 369 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: it is bone dry, and we've had a couple of 370 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: tropical storms and it's it's just flooded our whole, our 371 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 1: whole region. So you know, seeing scrapes. That really doesn't 372 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 1: happen too much. Um. And like I said, you know, 373 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: just the wind and whatnot, they just haven't been too active. 374 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: With that being said, we have our first cold front 375 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: coming in of the year this Wednesday, and I do think, um, 376 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 1: I think the deer will I think the bucks will 377 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: be a little bit more active. They'll be making the scrapes. UM. 378 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 1: I don't think you're going to see the actual chasing 379 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: running action. I just think the bucks are gonna be 380 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 1: fired up and they will be looking for that last 381 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 1: dough or maybe that dough coming into that second heat. Um. 382 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 1: Now in the northern region, you will see the scrapes. 383 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: You you won't see any rubs right now, but you 384 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: will start to see the scrapes up in the northern 385 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: part of the Florida. It's a lot dryer up there, 386 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: a lot more sand, and you will see a lot 387 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 1: of scrapes. You mentioned there's a cold front coming in. 388 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 1: How do you hunt differently when you have a cold 389 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: front coming up. Well, the cold front for us is 390 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,479 Speaker 1: not like a cold front for most of the nation. Um. 391 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: Right now, it's eighty one degrees, So you know that's 392 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: kind of been our attempt for the last three or 393 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: four weeks, and that's why the rud's pretty much shut down. Um, 394 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 1: when I say cold front, it's going to be probably 395 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: in the mid fifties. And that just makes you know, 396 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: for Floridians, it is like paradise for us. Um, So 397 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: all days fits are must. I mean, it's you know, 398 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: we've been waiting for this the whole year, so um 399 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: flocks all days fits the water. The water level is 400 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: going to start going down quickly once it you know, 401 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: stops raining, the water does go down quick and you 402 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: will see deer u targeting some of the areas where 403 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 1: I would say it's ankle deep angle deep sea seems 404 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 1: to be the key for for the deer around here. 405 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: Anything higher than that they don't really like anything lower 406 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: than that whatever, but deer do like the water down here. 407 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: So about angle deep is what what I tend to 408 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: look for. And um, with that being said, like there's 409 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: a lot of greenery um in that ankle deep water 410 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,479 Speaker 1: where when it's when it tends to dry up around here, 411 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: everything kind of goes brown. So you'll see a lot 412 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: of deer working flag ponds where there's just you know, 413 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: six six inches of water, and there's still a lot 414 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: of you know whatever, it's algae, whatever it is they're 415 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 1: in there eating during the rut. Will you do any 416 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: calling or decoying like hunters in the Midwest, I typically don't, 417 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: just because you know, a lot of the woods down 418 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: here are very thick, and I don't think the deer 419 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: are as as fired up to come into as u 420 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: you know, some rattling as they are in the Midwest. 421 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: The Midwest, they can see and um, they're a little 422 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 1: bit more aggressive I think out there. Um, what I 423 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: do always have is a grunt call. Um, you know, 424 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 1: the worst they can do. You know, if you get 425 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: a bucking range and he's kind of just skirting you 426 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: and he's not gonna come any closer, and he's I 427 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: should say, he's not in range, it never hurts to 428 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: throw a couple of you know, grunts at him. Um. 429 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 1: I typically don't. I don't do that. I've seen a 430 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: lot more deer shy away from that than actually come 431 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: to it. But as a last resort, I'll throw a 432 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 1: grunt at him. If you're trying to identify good bedding 433 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: in season in Florida, what does that look like? Good 434 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: betting here? Is wherever it's dry. Uh, islands A lot 435 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,479 Speaker 1: of times, you know, like the whole you know, there 436 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: will be thirty, you know, hundreds of acres of just 437 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: nothing but water and you'll get into a one or 438 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 1: two acre island, whether it's you know, nothing but pal 439 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 1: meadows or whatever it is, and a lot of times 440 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: those bucks will be betted on those little pieces of 441 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: land that's completely dry. So that's something to look forward to, 442 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: look forward to. Um, but Paul Meadow is is a 443 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: is a big thing. I see a lot of bucks 444 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: betted in the pal meadows mostly going forward. Then the 445 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: sex week or so, what do you think that bucket 446 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 1: activity is going to be on a scale of one 447 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: to ten in Florida? I would say seven to eight. 448 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 1: Just with that cold weather. Um that that first cold 449 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 1: wind is going to hit these bucks in the face 450 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: and they're gonna go wild. They typically do, just like 451 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: we do. It's and uh, you know, it could be 452 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: our only cold front. And I feel like the deer 453 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: nor that whenever it gets cold, they do what they 454 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: gotta do. They like to to show themselves in the daytime. 455 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 1: I already have a few um big bucks showing up 456 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: this week. So I feel like they probably already feel 457 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 1: it coming. Um, so I think it's gonna be probably 458 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: an eight. All right, Ryan, Great until good luck with 459 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 1: the rest of your season, and thanks for joining me. 460 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: Thanks Spencer, have a good one all right in joining 461 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 1: us on the line. Next is Greg Litzinger from bow 462 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: hunting fiend in New Jersey. Now, Greg in New Jersey, 463 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 1: what would you say the bucket activity has been lately 464 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: on a scale of one to ten, four for four 465 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: or five in that range? Now, I just I think 466 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: they're just starting to break off the doors, and uh, 467 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: they're they're starting to move a little bit more. And 468 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 1: then the weather hasn't been exactly phenomenal here in Jersey. 469 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 1: When you're doing some in season scouting during post rout 470 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: what sorts of things are you looking for right now? Food? 471 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: Hidden food sources away from people As Jersey is a 472 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: very populated state. Um in, bathing is legal, so if 473 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 1: you're not hunting over bait, then you'd find those hidden 474 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 1: food sources, brows that most people are overlooking. What are 475 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,719 Speaker 1: you seeing for sign newmaking right now? Some rubs are 476 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 1: popping back up, some new rubs, scrapes are slowly getting 477 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 1: looked at, again, but definitely h some new rubs poping up. 478 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: Where do you run most of your trail cameras in 479 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 1: late November transition out of dough betting areas in near 480 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: feeding areas, transition between the two. I try to uh 481 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: put my cameras in, you know, like pinches and bottlenecks 482 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 1: near the betting areas because you know, during your Rottenham Buxhel, 483 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: you know, don't really have a set pattern, but the 484 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: toes will be a little more consistent. So I try 485 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: to really focusing on the dos and where the dose 486 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 1: are feeding and set them up, you know, in a 487 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: place that's going to funnel deer activity when you're trying 488 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 1: to avoid people right now in New Jersey, what sorts 489 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: of places are you getting into or looking for to 490 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 1: get away from pressure water, big sticker, briar patches where 491 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: places where dogs don't even want to go, you know, 492 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 1: remote places, just those overlooked spots, sometimes even close to 493 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: the road. Something that this makes some somebody walking towards 494 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: just feel like I don't want to walk to this 495 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: new access or them big you know, something that requires 496 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: more than knee boots. What our depths, you know, I 497 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 1: wear waiters a lot, so still waste waiters are a 498 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: minimum uh for some of these spots. If you can 499 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 1: cross a lot of knee boots and anybody's across it. 500 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: But if you go up to your thigh then most 501 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 1: people are like, nah, I'm good, I'll just go around it. 502 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: Are you as mobile right now as you are during 503 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 1: peak rout or are you hunting some of the more 504 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 1: consistent places this time of year more that's not the 505 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: same um actually a little bit more mobile because I'm 506 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: trying to find those uh where there's those that you 507 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: know there, there's old dose are smart and they're crafty, 508 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: So if you're really hunting the same tree, then they're 509 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: you're just gonna get pegged eventually going forward. Then in 510 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: the next week or so, what do you think that 511 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 1: bucket activity is going to be on a scale of 512 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,479 Speaker 1: one to ten in New Jersey, I'll ramped a seven 513 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: and seven being muslum or. Our gun season is getting 514 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: ready to ramp ups. There's a lot or peep in 515 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: the woods and the buck is going to be moving 516 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: looking for does. So there's just gonna be a lot 517 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: more movement. Dear, plus people so dere and the you know, 518 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 1: we'll just be trying to avoid the people, so they'll 519 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 1: be on their feet a little bit more. Alright, Greg, 520 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: good luck with what's left of your season. Thanks for 521 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: joining me, Yeah, thank you, alright and joining us on 522 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 1: the line. Next is Dylan Lens from The Breaking Point 523 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: TV in Wisconsin. Now dealing in Wisconsin. What would you 524 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: say the buck activity has been lately on a scale 525 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: of one to ten, I would say right now, and 526 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 1: we're looking at about a four to five out of ten, 527 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: So I would say the reason for it being a 528 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: bit lower than optimal would be two reasons. The end 529 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,199 Speaker 1: of the rut and also the start of gun season 530 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: in Wisconsin. So I would say you're looking at a 531 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 1: lot of deer that have just run hard for the 532 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 1: past two three weeks, running silly, chasing does and um, 533 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: they're kind of I would say, getting towards the end 534 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: of that period. And then also coupling that with an 535 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 1: influx of pressure in the woods as the Blaze Orange 536 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: Army takes over in Wisconsin over this past weekend. So 537 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: you got a lot of deer that are already tired 538 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: and now run into a lot of pressure. So I 539 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: would say that's slowing them down quite a bit. How 540 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 1: do you see dear normally respond to that gun hunting pressure. 541 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: I would say in a lot of areas, depending on 542 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 1: the kind of pressure you're looking at, a lot of 543 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: those deer hunkering down, making very small daylight movements and 544 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 1: then picking up. Uh in in the you know, after 545 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: dark is gonna gonna be when your trail cameras are 546 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: getting the pictures of them for the most part. Right 547 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: now this time of year, what usually happens for signmaking 548 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 1: in Wisconsin At the end of November, I would say 549 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: you're looking at right now, your scrapes are probably pretty 550 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: covered in leaves. They haven't been hit as much as 551 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: they were in early November. But I would see, say 552 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: towards the end of the month here, you're gonna see 553 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: that pick up again as the pressure eases off and 554 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: those bucks start to cruise again hoping to find their 555 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: last couple of bells. Uh. You know, if there's any 556 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: does that didn't get bred in the first rut looking 557 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: towards the second area right here, what are the best 558 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: food sources to focus on in Wisconsin right now? Um, 559 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: I would say anything that's unpressured. So if you have 560 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: fields that haven't had guys posted up on them during 561 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: the hunts, are close to roads where there's been an 562 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: influx of traffic. I would say you're looking looking for 563 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: those kind of food sources. Obviously right now corn is 564 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: a great food source if it's just been cut. A 565 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: lot of those are getting hit all night long, So 566 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: getting close to those and the evenings, I would say, 567 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: would be a pretty good bet for some afternoon movement. 568 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: I know you do some deer drives during gun season. 569 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: What does one of those look like? How do you 570 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,719 Speaker 1: find an area that you're going to walk and how 571 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: do you execute it? Yeah? First off, I would say, 572 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: you know, right now, looking at all these bucks that 573 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: are you know, hunkered down. Um, you're looking at a 574 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: lot of pressure in the woods. So those bucks don't 575 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: want to move, So getting them up H. If that's 576 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: an option by you and you have a crew of 577 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,479 Speaker 1: guys willing to go out and try and fill the freezer, 578 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: that's a pretty good method of really fun that said 579 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: to try out this time of year. Um, basically, what 580 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: you're looking for are thick, nasty betting areas, trying to 581 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: push through those and get some deer moving and uh, 582 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: having some guys on the other side or you know, 583 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: adjacent to them, waiting for those deer to get up 584 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: and hopefully give you a shot opportunity. But I would 585 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 1: say the main thing to worry about obviously is safety 586 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: when you're doing that. Putting guys uh out in thick 587 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: cover um, pushing deer through and then hoping to shoot 588 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: rifles through is a pretty dangerous game. So definitely plan ahead, 589 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: know where your shots are gonna be, nowhere the other 590 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: hunters are going to be, and plan accordingly and be 591 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: very safe when you do it. What is the least 592 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: amount or the most amount of hunters that you will 593 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: use during a deer drive? Honestly, I think you can 594 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: do it with two people. I think that's a really 595 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: good way to do it. If you know you have 596 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: a really good funnel adjacent to some betting area, having 597 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: somebody sneak through there, not necessarily running through, making a 598 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: bunch of noise, yelling and banging pots and pans. I 599 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,239 Speaker 1: really like just kind of sneaking through getting a deer up, 600 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: so it's not just busting out of there. Maybe it 601 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: just here's a little something common and wants to get 602 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: out of there, and then that way it's not running 603 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,719 Speaker 1: dead sprint for the driver on the end. UM, I 604 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: really like to person drives. But I mean you can 605 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: do it all the way up to twenty people I've seen, UM, 606 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: which is a lot of fun, a lot more hectic, 607 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: and UM obviously a lot more safety concerns when you 608 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: get that number of people on a deer drive. So 609 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: when you're bumping deer from their beds, are you doing 610 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: it with your noise or you doing it with the wind? 611 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: I typically I would say it's it's coupling of both. 612 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: If you can do it where you're pushing through and 613 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: using the wind your favorite to blow your wind into 614 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: an area, UM, I would say that definitely helps. But 615 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: I think the main thing is your sound. They're gonna 616 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: hear you coming no matter what. UM, that's gonna be 617 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: the thing that keys them off in my opinion. UM, 618 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: when you're doing a rifle deer drive going forward, then 619 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: in a sex week or so, what do you think 620 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: that bucket TV is going to be On a scale 621 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 1: of one to ten in Wisconsin, I would say it's 622 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: gonna pick up after rifle season. I'm gonna say it's 623 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: gonna be probably a six seven, maybe even in the eight, 624 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: we get some cool weather to get those near moving 625 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: a little harder our Dylan, good luck with the rest 626 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: of your season. Thanks for joining me, absolutely, thank you 627 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: for having me. And that concludes this week's episode of 628 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: rut Fresh Radio. Thanks to Adam, Ryan, Greg and Dylan 629 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: for joining me, and thank you guys for listening. Mark 630 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: and I plugged a lot of stuff at the beginning 631 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: this podcast. I hope you go and check all of 632 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: it out. 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