1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: What's going on? Everybody, Welcome into a Wednesday the issue 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: of Texans All Acts, as sim your host, John Harris 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: Football on a Sideline reporter and glad to be joining 4 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: you on our last regular season edition of Wednesday All Access. 5 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: And it's kind of weird and strange to say it's 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: already been kind of an emotional week. Not kind of. 7 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: It's been a very emotional week with what happened on 8 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: Monday Night football with DeMar Hamlin, second year safety from 9 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: out of pitt who played place for the Buffalo Bills, 10 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: and outpouring of love and support from throughout the NFL. 11 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: It's been incredible to see those rallying around DeMar Hamlin, 12 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 1: who was resuscitated with AEED and CPR on the field 13 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:47,319 Speaker 1: at Paycore Stadium on Monday night. And he has been 14 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: trending each and every day a little bit better, a 15 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: little bit better. He's not needing as much oxygen. There 16 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: obviously might be some lung issues and things like that. 17 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: But our thoughts have been with DeMar Hamlin this entire time, 18 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: and mine have and I've told this story or you 19 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: know this thought many times that my buddy Salacopaccio is 20 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: a Silid, reporter for the Bills, and I've I've heard 21 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: him on different radio shows recounting the story about DeMar 22 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 1: Hamlin's mother trying to get to him. She was at 23 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: the game and trying to get to him and how 24 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: difficult that was. And sal I was telling that story 25 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: on Andrew Philipponi's show right there in Pittsburgh, and he 26 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 1: was breaking up as he did it. And I texted 27 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: him after I heard it, and he said, you know, 28 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: I've been doing those shows, not because I've wanted to, 29 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: but it's kind of in some sense, helping me get 30 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: through that situation because it's been that tough for everybody involved. 31 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: I can only imagine what the players that get on 32 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: that field with DeMar Hamlin are feeling. I know Rodney Thomas, 33 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: who we will play this weekend of the Colts. It 34 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: was a high school teammate, really good friend of DeMar. 35 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: He drove to Cincinnati from Indianapolis about one hundred and 36 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: twenty miles on Monday night to be there and be 37 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: with him, to be in the in the room with him, 38 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: and said he got a chance to kind of touch 39 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: his hand and shake his hand. He said he didn't 40 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: know if Damar knew he was there or not, but 41 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: he just needed to be there. So it's been a 42 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: really emotional week in the NFL, but he is definitely 43 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: moving in the right direction. And man, I can't tell 44 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: you how just awesome that is to hear, and we 45 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,239 Speaker 1: hope that continues to Texans made ten thousand and three 46 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:27,839 Speaker 1: dollars donation to Tamar's Toy Foundation or Toys Toy Drive 47 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: that he was running. It was a go fund me 48 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: that had been up there for I don't know, a 49 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 1: couple of years, I think, and the goal is twenty 50 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 1: five hundred dollars and people have been giving and it's 51 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: now six and a half million dollars. I think it 52 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: maybe up in seven million dollars by now, but I mean, 53 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: it's just to be incredible. The team's giving give me. 54 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 1: The Colts gave twenty five thousand three dollars. You know, 55 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: Tom Brady gave Chris Jericho, the wrestler, gave twice because 56 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: the first time he spelled his name wrong, so he 57 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: gave another five thousand dollars to spelled his name right. 58 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: So it's just been a really emotional week. And we'll 59 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: start off there because Lovey Smith had a chance to 60 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: talk about that situation and kind of how it affects 61 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: the team and what they've been going through. And I 62 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: thought love was the perfect person to be speaking today, 63 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: and when asked, actually he didn't even ask. This was 64 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: kind of his opening statement today at the press conference. 65 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: So it's too little Texans audio jukebox from this press 66 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: conference today where Love Smith spoke the majority of time 67 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: about Tomorrow, hammeling and football and injuries, but this was 68 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: his opening statement today as we start our audio jukebox. 69 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: You know our game can be violent. I mean that's 70 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: a context or Andrew's happened, But you don't you assume 71 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: that that an injury like that won't happen. And I 72 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: found myself, I don't know Tomorrow. I've never met him, 73 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: but I think we all feel like we do when 74 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: you're part of this close knit football fraternity. On our 75 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: football team, we do have members that do know him personally. 76 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: Jock Cisarity coaches our defensive line coach him last year 77 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: on the staff there, Mario Addison, Jerry Hughes were teammates 78 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: with DeMar last year with the Bills. And then it 79 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: goes all the way back Jimmy Morrisey spent five years 80 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: at the University of Pittsburgh with DeMar and Kurk. Heinich 81 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: was a high school teammate. So of course when people 82 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 1: that you know personally or that close, you even feel 83 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: like you even know him a little bit more. But 84 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 1: watching it, it was tough. You had to think about, 85 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: you know, as a parent, you know, as parents and 86 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: everybody that love him as he fell for his life 87 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: on the field. What I also saw was natural emotion 88 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: on how much people care, you know, from the opponent 89 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: across the field with the Cincinnati Bengals of course, and 90 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: watching their team, from coaches, ministrators of course, the players. 91 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: What I also saw that night was how people pulling together, 92 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 1: you know, the medical team and how they went into work, 93 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: uh to save his life. But that is football and 94 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: um and some things can happen like that. On how 95 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: we've handed since then, I thought it would it would 96 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: be wise to let the guys have another day yesterday, 97 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 1: the kind of reflect it just kind of take all 98 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: this in and we may, you know, our mental health 99 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: clinicians and all the people that I know, could you know, 100 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: help guys that may need to talk to someone available, 101 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: and our players came back in. Today. We tried to 102 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: get on a on a regular as much of a 103 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: regular routine as we possibly could. We normally start our 104 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: day off with a team meeting. We're able to do 105 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: that today and had from of course, you know, are 106 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: the person that's in charge of our mental health. Here 107 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: are leading the meeting, and we just let the guys 108 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: know that, you know, what they're feeling right now. It's 109 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: kind of natural we all kind of feeling some of 110 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: the same things. And but we're going to get through 111 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: this together. Let everybody kind of, you know, talk a 112 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: little bit. The ones that really wanted to and the 113 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: guys I mentioned that that know tomorrow. Personally, I think 114 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: it was good for them to let the team know 115 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: a little bit about him, let all of us know 116 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: a little bit about him. So that's where we are 117 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: with that. We're gonna do, I know, organizationally, we're gonna 118 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: do whatever we can to help you know, the bills 119 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: and anyone else that we feel like we can't help, 120 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: you know, doing our part. I know one thing that 121 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: I and when you feel like you're far away and 122 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 1: you can't do an awful lot. I'm a believer, so 123 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: I believe in prayer that it helps, and I know 124 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: he had a lot of people praying for a speedy 125 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: recovery and we hope that he gets better and better 126 00:06:55,480 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: each day. Football on where we are. We have another 127 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: game to play. As I said, We're gonna try to 128 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: get into as much of a normal routine as we 129 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: possibly can today and get ready to play our last 130 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: game of the season. So that's where we are takeing 131 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: a question. Got to know Coach Smith over the over 132 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: the couple of years he's been here, and you could 133 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: just hear in his voice the sadness and what everybody 134 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: throughout the NFL has been going through, and obviously the 135 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: feeling from far away for DeMar Hamlin. But there have 136 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: been and there are a number of players and coaches 137 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: in this locker room that have a connection to DeMar Hamlin. 138 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: Jacques Cesaire was assistant d line coach last year with 139 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: the Bills when damars a rookie Jerry Hughes Mary Addison. 140 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: They both were in Buffalo last year when DeMars a rookie. 141 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: Jimmy Morrissey played with Damar in high school. Love talked 142 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: about that connection and the players and what they're going 143 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: to when he had them speak today to the players 144 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: in their team meeting. Well, the general thoughts, it's just 145 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: that he's a great guy that loves that loved to 146 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: play the game of football. By I think most of 147 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: us are kind of aware of the the outside charity 148 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: that he that he formed to, you know, to collect 149 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: toys for kids in his area. He's a guy from 150 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh area that again played high school ball or 151 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: stayed there to the University Pittsburgh, and so he was involved. 152 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: That's what the Senate was. The guys are new him 153 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 1: with the Bills. Is talked about how good a teammate 154 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 1: he was, always had his iPad with him talking football, 155 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: trying to learn football and and and for me, just 156 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: as a player, six round draft pick odds are against him. 157 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: I has probably been against him a lot in his 158 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: life and he's overcome them. But to know what he 159 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: had to do to make the roster, and as we 160 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: talked to our guys, always you need to be ready. 161 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 1: And fortunately another injury happened and he got a chance 162 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: to play. And I know he was playing outstanding football 163 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: this year for the Bills. When you're on a game 164 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: as many years as as coach has been shoot. As 165 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: I have been, you've seen pretty much everything. You know, 166 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: players making great plays, players making great catches, miracle plays, 167 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: miracle moments. But you also see the other side of it, 168 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: and that's injuries. And you know, you see a guy 169 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: tear as acl We saw Kyler Murray do that I 170 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: might have football and he had surgery on Wednesday. You see, 171 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: you know, players that unfortunately take a hit and they 172 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: go unconscious or something along those lines having to do 173 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: with a head or neck injury. But I think love 174 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: he spoke for a lot of people and they said 175 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: they had never seen anything anything like what they had 176 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 1: seen on Monday night with the more Hamlet the entire 177 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: organization this week. It is first off, as heart and 178 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: I have been in football a little bit longer than 179 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 1: most of the guys in in our locker room experiences, 180 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: and I've been games teams that have had some serious injuries, 181 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: but not one like this that played out right in 182 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: front of all of us. But on how we get 183 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: through it is that I think with times like this happened, 184 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: you see how close you are and we do you know, 185 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: everybody say, hey, we you know it's a family here. 186 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: We do have that and guys genuinely care. And I 187 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: think what we all saw is that you can compete 188 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: hard against someone and try to win and do everything possible, 189 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 1: but once someone is in need, on how you gather together, 190 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: how you come together, And that's where we are and 191 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 1: it's just starting. I mean, I know it happened Monday, 192 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of tough days ahead, but I 193 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: know we're gonna all go through it together. And then 194 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: just emotions that you feel. I mean for our guys 195 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: to know that whatever you're feeling right now, we all have. 196 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: We're in different you know, we know them differently in 197 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: different place and letting the guys know that that's okay too. 198 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 1: And I talked to him as a head football coach, 199 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: but also Nick our general manager of course, talk to 200 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: them organizationally, guys on where you are. We're here to 201 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: support you where you are and your journey going through 202 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 1: all of this. Yes, we and you finish with the 203 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: you know. I talked about, you know what, my belief 204 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: in prayer and a lot of others on things that 205 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: we can do. These are all the things that we've 206 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 1: done and what the guys want to do. They wanted 207 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: to have that to talk it out. But what they 208 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: also want to do is they want to play too, 209 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: So getting back into as much a normal routine as 210 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 1: we can is also part of them. And that's the 211 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: thing about football coaches and just football people in general. 212 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: I mean myself, I mean I have the same day 213 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: as a radio. I have the same things I do 214 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: on a particular day. I know you guys out there 215 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: and your particular occupations have the same thing. You have 216 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: a routine, and this routine might be disrupted, there might 217 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,959 Speaker 1: be movement in games, just not real sure. And Lovey 218 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: was asked about, well, do you know anything more about 219 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: what may happen with the game against the Colts? Could 220 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: that get pushed back? There have been some thoughts out 221 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: there that what the NFL may do is use that 222 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: This is one of the things I said to Mark, 223 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: is they're going to use that week before the Super 224 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: Bowl to you know, it's kind of their buffer zone. 225 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: So I think what they're gonna do is the week 226 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: that would be Wildcard weekend. I think they'll play the 227 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: Bills and Bengals game that weekend, They'll play the NFC 228 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,079 Speaker 1: Wildcard that weekend, but then give everybody else in the 229 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 1: AFC that makes the playoffs a buy and then flip 230 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: it the next week, give the AFC a buy, and 231 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: then I'm sorry, give the NFC a buy, and then 232 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: play the AFC Wildcard playoffs that week. It'll make one 233 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: week between a FC championship and AFC NFC championship game 234 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. But that's potentially what we could 235 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: be looking at as far as the Texans go. In 236 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: Week eighteen, coach said, we're just gonna We're gonna follow 237 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: what our leadership says, and we're gonna go with that. Well, 238 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: I think doing times like this, we have to follow 239 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: our lead of our leaders, our commissioner. If that's the case, 240 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: that's what we'll do right now. The games or still alone, 241 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: So we have to you have to keep when you know, 242 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: tragic things happen, you know, the best way to kind 243 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: of deal with it sometime is to get back into 244 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: your routine as much as possible. If that's the case, 245 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 1: we'll deal with it then. Right now, we're going on 246 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: like there'll be a game this week. So there's been 247 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: no announcement from the NFL whether things are going to change. 248 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: If it sounds as if we're moving along with the 249 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: game as it is on week eighteen. Not sure what 250 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: the Bill's Patriots situation is going to be. Nothing has 251 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: been announced at this point. The Bills did have a 252 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: walkthrough today up in Buffalo. As they continue to get 253 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: more and more information about DeMar Hamlin, so it appears 254 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: as if we're moving that direction. I think we're only 255 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: moving in that direction because Damar has shown significant signs 256 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: of improvement, which has been great, and that's been great 257 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: for the Bills family, great for Bill's Mafia, and obviously 258 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: for Damar to continue moving in that particular direction. Love 259 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: You has asked this question. I'm not sure who this was. 260 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: It will be our final note here, but it had 261 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: to do with the mental health aspect of players at 262 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: this particular moment and watching something like that happen and realizing, 263 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: as love He pointed out early, that it is a 264 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: violent game. Things happen, people get bruised and beat up, 265 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: and there are injuries, and unfortunately there was something like 266 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: this that happened, and then that can take a toll 267 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: on a player's mental health, on coach's mental health, and 268 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: Love You discussed that aspect in what the Texans have 269 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: been doing and that they're very understanding of what these 270 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: players are going through right now. Well, first off, I 271 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: think the guys our relationship is pretty deep that we 272 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: have before we get in that situation. But it's very important. 273 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: Of course we've done all of that and we've all 274 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: let our guard down a little bit. Yeah, you're right, 275 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: glad eight Warriors and all that, but not in these 276 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: circumstances right here. If you just look a snapshot of 277 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: when Damarrow went down on what's happening and you saw 278 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: the expressions on all of the players faces that was 279 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: happening right then, how many other places do you think 280 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: you could have gotten the same snapshot on what's going on, 281 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: and especially from the football players who play. Yeah, I've 282 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: as I say it earlier, I watched it as a parent, 283 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: I'm a parent, granddad. I went into that role on 284 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: what his parents are feeling right now, try to I 285 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: also I went into Zach and Sean's role as a 286 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: coach looking at one of our players out there on 287 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: the football field, and it's the same feeling now that 288 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: you have. You're just sick and you start what can 289 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: I do when something is wrong? What can I do 290 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: to help? And when you're from when you're away and 291 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: you can't do an awful lot times like this. I'm 292 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: glad I am a believer where you can start praying 293 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: and think about all of the people that have been 294 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: been praying for tomorrow. I can't wait for him to, 295 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: you know, to come back all right and be healthy 296 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: and whole, and for him to see how much people 297 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: that impact that he has had. Yeah, I think love 298 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: you put it best right there. And I saw a tweet. 299 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: I think it was from Terrell Dotson, linebacker who played 300 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: at A and M and that plays the Buffalo Bills, 301 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: and he said, man, I can't wait for DeMar to 302 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: see the support that he has gotten throughout the league. 303 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 1: And it's it's been incredible the thoughts and prayers that 304 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: have gone his way. And I think obviously people wanted 305 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: to react and send thoughts and prayers, but I think 306 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,199 Speaker 1: it's going to a well deserving guy. What he has 307 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 1: done in his community, how much he loves the city 308 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: of Pittsburgh, what he has given to the Buffalo Bills. 309 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: He's a stand up, stand up young man. So our 310 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: thoughts and prayers continue to go to Damar Hamlin, There's 311 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 1: no doubt about that, and to everybody affiliated with the 312 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills and the n f L. Now, that's a 313 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: pretty heavy way to start, but obviously there's been a 314 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 1: lot that moves in that a lot of moves in 315 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: that direction having to do with the NFL and love 316 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:57,959 Speaker 1: you this first time that he was able to address 317 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 1: the media since that had happened. So we start off 318 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 1: with that, but we're gonna move forward as much as 319 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 1: we possibly can, because when Mark steps in here, we're 320 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: gonna talk about quarterbacks, and we're gonna talk about looking 321 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: at the draft order. Who needs a rookie quarterback, who 322 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,959 Speaker 1: needs a Tier one veteran that could come in right 323 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: away and be that guy who needs a two tier 324 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: bridge quarterback and maybe a later round rookie. Let's guss 325 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: that next right here on Texans All Access. Welcome back 326 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: to Wednesday edition of Texans All Access from the Hunday 327 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: Texans Radio Studio. I'm your host, John Harris Football and I 328 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: I a Silode reporter alongside the voice of the Texans, 329 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 1: Lavas Lava Lavas de las Toros. I did that pretty well. 330 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: I can kind of, I can get it when I 331 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: need it, and Rique would be proud. I know, Mark 332 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: vand Amir joins me, Mark, I want to do this. 333 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: We did this maybe last week when Derek Carr was 334 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: subsequently benching. By the way, Jared Sidham, good on you, brother. 335 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 1: That was nice. That game, Holy cow. I don't think 336 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: anybody saw three fifty six yards. I think three touchdowns. 337 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: He was great. And you guys, you and John McLean 338 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: got my Robbie Benson in One on one reference when 339 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: at the end of the movie he goes nuts in 340 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: a game and then we didn't play wherever he wants. 341 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: We did be Hot Poker. Oh okay, I don't need 342 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: to say any more about that movie. But yeah, wait 343 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 1: that movie. One interesting sports note about that movie. And 344 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: no one saw it. Who's listening. I mean three people 345 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 1: saw it one on one old basketball movie. A lot 346 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 1: more people that saw it early eighties, I guess, but 347 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 1: seventies Blue Chips used the same university, the same fake university, 348 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: Western University as One on one. Yeah, it was the 349 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: same fake university for Hollywood purposes. And I think they 350 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: shot at that Polly Pavilion. I don't know, but there 351 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: you go. Yeah they did. They shot part of it 352 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: at Polly Pavilion for sure. Robbie Benson Annett o'tool. Yeah, 353 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 1: I remember that. There was you remember a hitchhiker. There 354 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 1: was a hitchhiker in the movie this Melanie Griffith nineteen 355 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: seventy seven. I barely remember the movie. The basketball players 356 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 1: hanging out with a netto tool a lot. And she's 357 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: kind of in this counterculture on campus. Yeah, this is 358 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: she like a tutor or something. Yeah, and the and 359 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: they fall in love and the coach is really tough 360 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: on Robbie Benson's supposed to be a good basketball player, 361 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: but he's not playing well and the coach is too 362 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: tough on him. And the coach is a jerk. And 363 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: at the end of the movie, Robbie Benson goes off 364 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: in a game. He has to put him in the game. 365 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 1: He'd been benching him, and Robbie Benson just goes off, 366 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 1: and then the coach wants to make up with him 367 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: at Robbie Benson's not having it. Yeah, he's not having it. 368 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,239 Speaker 1: There's the whole movie. You don't need to see it now. 369 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: It's good though. It's a golden Charett Stidham because yes, 370 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: nobody knew who knew? Look at that game, I mean, 371 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 1: we've pointed this out there. You are in Week seventeen, 372 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 1: forty nine Ers Raiders. You have two backups and one 373 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: of them a third stringer, and they are putting on 374 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: a show with a West Coast shootout. Yeah that was amazing. 375 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 1: And then Stidham gets hit overtime ball Flutters gets picked 376 00:20:55,160 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 1: off by to Sean Gibson. Yeah, thanks a lot. Yeah, anyway, 377 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: it goes well. We talked about Derek Carr, so he's 378 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: want to do. I want to go through the draft 379 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: order right now as it sits, and I want you 380 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 1: to tell me they'll draft a guy. They'll look at 381 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: a veteran quarterback. Okay, and I don't want to start 382 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: with us. We are a big mots ball of let's 383 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: look at it in the off season, all right. But 384 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: here's an interesting note from today, because the Texans currently 385 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: sit at number one in the projected draft order. That's correct. Yes, 386 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: Chicago is second. Now should the Texans win in Chicago lose, 387 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,199 Speaker 1: the Texans would pick second, no lower than second, no 388 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 1: matter what happens this weekend. But the Bears have done 389 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: everything they can, and by everything they can adjusted fields 390 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: not playing. They are starting Nathan Peterman. I mean you 391 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 1: could start Jay Peterman and maybe have a better chance 392 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: to win than Nathan Peterman at this stage, but they're 393 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: gonna go for it, Johnny. They are going for the 394 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: top spot this weekend. This leather duster will get you 395 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 1: through the most humid situation. People got that one too, Yeah, exactly, 396 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 1: m Yeah, so there's that Nathan Peterman will be the 397 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: starting quarterback. They sat in a conference room and they said, 398 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 1: what can we do, right, what can we do to 399 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: virtually not guarantee, but to increase our chances. If I 400 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 1: had one of those one of those soundboards with the 401 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: lock like and a lot, that's what I would put. 402 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 1: That's exactly what they've done. Ryan Poles walked down to 403 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: Mattieberflus and they kind of nodded, like it's time. Nobody 404 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 1: wants Andrew Luck to walk through the door as much 405 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: as the Bears right now, to start for the Colts 406 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: this weekend against the Texans. Now, he might be a 407 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: little rusty, yeah, but he'll give them a better chance 408 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: maybe than Sam Ellinger. Okay, so I'll ask you a 409 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: difficult question here because I know the answer. I know 410 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: what we're gonna say. I know we're gonna say, right, 411 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: But who's in a better situation right now? Houston or Chicago? 412 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 1: And I'll set up this way tech since first or 413 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 1: second pick. The Bears have their future quarterback though, and 414 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: the Texas No. But the Texas have a lot of money. 415 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: They have a ton of draft picks coming from the 416 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: Watson deal. But the Bears could because they have that quarterback, 417 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: they could move down and they could add just as 418 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: many picks. Yeah, to that situation. Who's the better situation? 419 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: You think? You know? You say they have their future quarterback? 420 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: They have justin fields. He's a tremendous running threat. He's 421 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 1: thrown it better this year because he's been a running 422 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: threat right He's on track in an improvement scale. But 423 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: he's got to continue that, no doubt that trek upward, 424 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: because if it stops here, he's not good enough. He's 425 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: not good enough to win right now the way he is, 426 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: he's not good enough to win games in this league 427 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 1: on a consistent basis. He's got to improve a lot 428 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: in the offseason. So maybe he does. I'm not saying 429 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 1: he can't do it, but it's like I always say, 430 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: everybody's got to get better, especially him, because the Texans 431 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: are they gonna draft a quarterback with that top pick, 432 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: or are they gonna wait till the midway in the 433 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: first round to do it, or are they gonna get 434 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 1: a veteran. We don't know yet how they're going to 435 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 1: handle that position in the off season. But I like 436 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 1: the amount of picks the Texans have, regardless, two ones 437 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: this year, two ones next year, and all the other 438 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: ones they have. I like the position the Texans are in. 439 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: From that way, if I think both teams are actually 440 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: in a pretty decent position, that turn this thing around 441 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: Chicago depending on what they do. Because they have fields, 442 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: and because there are two quarterbacks, maybe a third, depending 443 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 1: on how you want to label Will Levis. Like I said, 444 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: there are two. I'm not the biggest fan of Levis, 445 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: but at that point there's gonna be a lot of teams. 446 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 1: I think this exercise will prove that Chicago's gonna opportunity 447 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: to do some things here. So let's go through this. 448 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: Chicago has its quarterback. Yeah, they're not taking one. I 449 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: don't think to take one. Seattle picking third right now, 450 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 1: they got Denver's pick. Seattle was picking third. They're not 451 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 1: taking a quarterback with that pick. I don't think so 452 00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 1: either no way, Arizona no no. Indianapolis at five, yes, 453 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 1: do they sign a veteran or do they draft one? 454 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: They're gonna have to sign a veteran to help them. 455 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 1: And when I say veteran, I'm talking maybe like a 456 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: Tier one veteran. Is a guy like a Jimmy Garoppolo. 457 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 1: Maybe trade for a Jordan Love, Yeah, somebody of that caliber. Yeah. 458 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: Tier two is hey, this is more a bridge guy 459 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,360 Speaker 1: that ends up helping us with a rookie. Yeah, they're 460 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: going that way. Okay, they're gonna they cannot sell this 461 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: to the fan base anymore or to themselves. They're gonna 462 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: go for a veteran. And look, they've got a solid nucleus. 463 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 1: There's no doubt they can bounce back quickly in this division. 464 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: I believe they can. But I believe they'll draft a 465 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 1: quarterback right there. If they trade down a few spots. Maybe, 466 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: but I think they want a quarterback because who's gonna 467 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 1: trade up for what They're gonna trade up for a quarterback? 468 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,400 Speaker 1: So the Cults will just go ahead and take one. So, yes, 469 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,360 Speaker 1: Colts quarterback. Yeah, I think they'll get a Tier two 470 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: bridge veteran and they'll draft one Detrade at six. No, 471 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: they're gonna stick with Goff. They might get another backup 472 00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: at Lant at seven. I don't think so, but I 473 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: guess it's possible Ritter. Have they seen enough to know? 474 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: I mean, what's at this point? What's the difference between 475 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: Desmond Ritter, Will Levis, and Anthony Richardson? I would guess 476 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: because my assumption is the Bryce Young and CJ. Straub 477 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: will go in the top six picks. We've already mentioned 478 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: teams that need quarterbacks there, and there are going to 479 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 1: be more teams than need quarterbacks that might want to 480 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: trade and get up there. So sitting at seven, is 481 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:29,360 Speaker 1: Desmond Ritter different that much? That much more different than 482 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: Will Levison Anthony Richardson. Those guys might have higher ceilings, 483 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: But Ritter has been in the league a year, and 484 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 1: I think he's also got a pretty decently high ceiling. 485 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 1: I'm with you. I don't think they draft one there. 486 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: I don't think they take one at seven. I really don't. 487 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: Do you want to hot take how many sizzle fires? 488 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: Is Max Duggan gets drafted in Round one somewhere, um 489 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: late first rounder, Johnny I'm trying to think of the 490 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: right team because I could see the right team doing it. 491 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: Somebody moves back into the first because they didn't get there. 492 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: Thelts didn't get their guy at five, so they waited 493 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 1: to the next round or whatever the case may be. 494 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: And they kind of following the Andy Dalton track. Yeah, 495 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 1: or they move late into round one. They make a 496 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: trade with the Eagles, who just won the Super Bowl, 497 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 1: and they say, listen, we want to take Dugan, give 498 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 1: you one. Let me give you one, okay, because they 499 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 1: have picked number twenty nine, they traded number three overall 500 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 1: to the Seattle Seahawks. Oh boy, what about Denver? Yeah, 501 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: you know, why not? You can wait for him to 502 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: develop a little bit. You're gonna give Russell Wilson another year, right, 503 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: you have to. You're gonna give Wilson another year. So 504 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: Duggan sits watches, understands, learns, whatever the case might be. 505 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: And when Russ goes belly up, well, you're moving a 506 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 1: guy with a late first round cap figure which is 507 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: not obese. And I call him Dugan again. That's just 508 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: so instant. Dug Um. I'm dug in on. Here's here's 509 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: another one. Yeah, And I don't know how this is 510 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 1: gonna go and this I said the other day that 511 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 1: I thought Derek Carr was kind of the quarterback domino 512 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 1: that has to fall, right, Ultimately, the number one domino 513 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 1: that has to fall is one Lamar Jackson. He's got 514 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 1: a sign with the Ravens or somewhere else, right, So 515 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: a lot of that. I think somehow, some way they 516 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: get a deal done. But is there bad blood there? 517 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: That's why I'm starting to think, I don't know. I'm 518 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: starting to think there might be a little bit of 519 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: bad blood there. And that's but if he does move on, 520 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 1: hey do they go with Tyler Huntley? And if they 521 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 1: go with Tyler Huntley, is that a spot they're sitting 522 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: right now at number twenty four? I don't put Baltimore 523 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 1: because Baltimore's offense with Greg Roman takes into account of 524 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: quarterbacks legs, and Duggan throws it better than either Tyler Huntley. 525 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: And now you could argue Lamar Lamar has got a 526 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,719 Speaker 1: strong arm. I think Lamar throws all better and people think, 527 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: but that's just that's my opinion. That might be a 528 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: spot for Duggan. Here's another one. There, another one? What 529 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: about the New York Football Giants? Oh No, they're gonna 530 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: re up with Daniel Jones. Do you think before that 531 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: they will re up with Daniel Jones And that'll knock 532 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: Duggan out of the equation for them, so they'll need 533 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: other things. Okay, So let's go back to the top here, 534 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: all right, Atlanta were I think we're both in agreement. No, 535 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: not at seven Las Vegas. Not the way Stidham is 536 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: playing right now. He puts up another performance like this 537 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: against the Kansas City Chiefs, there is no way they're 538 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: drafting a quarterback early, is okay? What about drafting a 539 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: quarterback like Tennessee? Did you know you saw what Stidham 540 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: could do, but you haven't seen it for a full year. 541 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: I mean that was his first start. I think in 542 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: the NFL he shows you a great he does the 543 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: Aeron Foster thing. He gives you the last two games 544 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: of the year, he looks great. But then he does 545 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: the non Aeron Foster thing as he becomes the starter. 546 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: Oh boy, he's not that good. So do you do 547 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: kind of Amlik Willis thing where you draft a guy 548 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: second third round. Maybe that's got some stick. Stay with 549 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: the Arian Foster analogy here. He pulled it an Aryan Foster. 550 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: If he plays well against the Chiefs, now you go 551 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: Ben Tate on him, right, But I'm not doing it 552 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: in the second. It's probably the third of the fourth. 553 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: I'm taking a guy who could project high inability and upside, 554 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna ride it with Stidham next Hendon Hooker. Yeah, 555 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: that might be a good spot for him. Let him rehab, 556 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: continue to rehab the ACL Yep, learns behind Stidham, Yep. 557 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: Perfect Las Vegas taking a quarterback, No later, not in 558 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: the first round? Yeah, number nine Carolina. It's a tough 559 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: one to figure. See good things out of Darnold. Look, 560 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,959 Speaker 1: they could would have shoot against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 561 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 1: but the Buccaneers aren't that great. They just have Tom Brady, 562 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: who is the best ever. And I just wonder how 563 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: they feel. Can you really roll into next year with Darnold? 564 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: Who's going to coach them? Is it Harbaugh? Does will 565 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,479 Speaker 1: sultimately get the job? Anyway? Does Darnold continue? I mean, 566 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: Donald has been really good. I mean I'm not talking 567 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl good, but he looks like a different dude. 568 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 1: He looks like the guy that we faced in week three. 569 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: He looks really good. Yeah, I back in twenty twenty one. 570 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 1: Twenty twenty one went down the toilet. But since Matt 571 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: rule has been gone, Sam Donald has played really good football. Yeah, 572 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: and I'm not that's not on Matt rule. I'm just 573 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: saying twenty twenty one under rule, he just wasn't good 574 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:05,959 Speaker 1: for what do you know who? Sam Darnold could be 575 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill and maybe even better in terms of overall ability. 576 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: But a guy who finds a new home either there 577 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: or somewhere else and is able to perform well enough 578 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: on a good team. Man, I'd answer to this, You 579 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: put Darnald on the Titans when they're healthy. Oh now, well, 580 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: it's interesting for that. It's very interesting if Carolina decides 581 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: now we're gonna go younger. Now, they got Matt Carrall. 582 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: They drapped him in third round last year, but obviously 583 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: went a third round for reason, So they drafted him 584 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: in the third round last year, so he's still there. 585 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: They're gonna taking a quarterback. I don't think they're taking 586 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: a quarterback either. I think they're gonna roll with Donald. 587 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: They're gonna go at Corral. We're gonna get to this 588 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: Matza ball. That's pick number eleven a second Philly, No, 589 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: they have New Orleans pick Tennessee. What does Tennessee do? This? 590 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: To me is the biggest mystery of all because I 591 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: don't think they can put Ryan Taniel back out there. 592 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 1: I think they saw in two games three stars. It's 593 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: maybe four starts, three or four starts. Whatever Malik wills had, 594 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: they didn't like what they saw. He's a waste way Now. 595 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,719 Speaker 1: I do think they will keep Malik Willis in the 596 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: fold sure, and let him continue to develop. Does Tennessee 597 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 1: a make a bid for Derek Carr or a Tier 598 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: one veteran at Jordan love Derek Carr because that team 599 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: is put together right now as a team that could 600 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 1: win once they get everybody healthy at a couple pieces 601 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: here there. Does a veteran quarterback make them a viable 602 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: a viable team to move back to the top of 603 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: the AFC sys you're going, you're going Tier one veteran 604 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,239 Speaker 1: for them. I'm going veteran, Okay, yeah, no doubt about it. 605 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: Because they're not going to draft a quarterback right there, 606 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: and they're not going to use that draft capital. Rabel 607 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: doesn't want to have to wait a round for a 608 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,959 Speaker 1: rookie to develop and live through all the growing pains. 609 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: The Jaguars are on their ways, sailing off into the sunset. 610 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 1: And as I say this, watch the Titans somehow win 611 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: on Saturday Night, which I don't think anybody would be 612 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: told at least shocked about, other than the fact that 613 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: it's Dobbs. Yeah, that exactly, so stop me when the 614 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: right guy strikes you for Tennessee, Okay, Jordan Love, Jimmy Garoppolo, 615 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: Derek Carr, maybe you know Tom Thomas, Edward Brady. No, 616 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 1: he's not going there. No, he's not going there. No, 617 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: it is Buddy Rabel. No, you don't think Rabel can 618 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: pull it up Looksville. A lot of people live in Nashville, 619 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 1: like the Nashville scene. Brady's not going there. If Brady 620 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: goes to Tennessee, I might Brady going to San Francisco. Yeah. 621 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: I don't think he's going back to New England. But 622 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: what if his boy becomes an offensive coordinator and you 623 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about. Here's a hot take for you, 624 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: Brady Rams. Oh wow, because that was the other one. 625 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 1: What about Baker Mayfield in Tennessee. No, not with Rabel. 626 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: Rabel's not gonna want any part of that. Think about 627 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 1: you got Brady's not gonna want to go to Nashville 628 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 1: and risk that, although he's gonna look at the division 629 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: and say, m I enjoyed this, he's already got that 630 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:09,800 Speaker 1: on Tampa Bay seemly, um bring you with the Rams? Wow? Wow? 631 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:14,800 Speaker 1: Because Stafford hurt not going well? Can you really count 632 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 1: on him? Maybe it's time Brady goes there for nothing, 633 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,799 Speaker 1: tries to win a title with the Rams. I don't 634 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 1: know throwing it out there, but let's just say this. 635 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: I think one of the things about the Rams that 636 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: is going to be interesting and it's gonna affect the 637 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 1: quarterback and is not the quarterback, and that's Aaron Donald. 638 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald come back or has he done? Let's he retire? 639 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 1: Are Aaron Donald and JJ Watt in the same Hall 640 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 1: of Fame class who said that McVeigh they wouldn't be 641 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: surprised if McVey took. I've seen that rumor, like did 642 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: a Sean Payton kind of thing just walked away for 643 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: a bit. I've seen that rumor to kind of recharge 644 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 1: and maybe come back do some TV whatever. So Tennessee 645 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: eleven twelve is us right now? Texans Uh, there's gotta 646 00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 1: better played the quarterback position. I don't know what they're 647 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 1: gonn to do, but it's got to be better. Go 648 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh, Go Pittsburgh, Go Pittsburgh. Beat Cleveland. Man, that 649 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 1: could mean as many as one. So we need New 650 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 1: Orleans to man, we need New Orleans to win. Tennessee's 651 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: not gonna win in all likelihood, He's not gonna win. 652 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 1: So it's gonna be tough playing well late in the year. 653 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 1: But if we get those six and ten teams that 654 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: win and move down what the tiebreakers are, Yeah, that's 655 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,800 Speaker 1: gonna be because strength of schedule. This is not gonna 656 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 1: beat the Chiefs. Let's be real. Strength of schedule is 657 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: gonna those won't matter too much. Carolina and Atlanta can 658 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 1: maybe get Cleveland to ten. That's what we gotta do. 659 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 1: We gotta get Cleveland at ten. That win that they 660 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:43,720 Speaker 1: just got over Washington was highly damaging. Didn't play Cristen Wawrence. 661 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,839 Speaker 1: That was it. Dang it, ron Um, all you gotta 662 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 1: do is not turn the ball over. You get a 663 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: great chance to win that day. Oh so Cleveland quarterback 664 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,359 Speaker 1: or no, Um, I don't think so. Okay, here's now 665 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 1: this This one gets very very interesting. No, they're not 666 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 1: gonna do it. The New Year York Football Jets. They're 667 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 1: not doing it. They're not doing it. They're not going 668 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 1: to draft a quarterback, no way. So they're going so okay, 669 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:11,919 Speaker 1: they're going Tier one VET. They're going Mike White et 670 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 1: probably not they have they you know what, they hear 671 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 1: a Jets fan and they go into the season say 672 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, Oh gosh, Mike White is our starter. How 673 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: do they feel? Not good? I think the Jets is. 674 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 1: I think the New York Jets great spot four Derek Carr. 675 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 1: That's not bad. That's not bad. I don't see them 676 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 1: drafting somebody kind of knows it. You're still two years 677 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,280 Speaker 1: removed from the number two overall pick and you probably 678 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 1: screwed it up and who knew? But they did right, 679 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: So you know, maybe he can resurrect himself. I don't know. 680 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,840 Speaker 1: Maybe the offseason is terrific for him. He goes and 681 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: meditates on a mountaintop and you know, spend some time 682 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 1: with a great quarterbacks coach and he comes back a 683 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 1: different guy. Maybe that happens. But they're not going to 684 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:03,720 Speaker 1: draft quarterbacks, so eliminate that from consideration. Here signed Derek Carr. Yeah, 685 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 1: like four teams signing Car with their own Derek Carr. 686 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:14,839 Speaker 1: Derek Carr to the Jets. Keep Zach Wilson. Yeah, oh, 687 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 1: you gotta keep him, Keep him, you gotta keep him. 688 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:18,799 Speaker 1: That's so you're gonna have a lot of money tied up. 689 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 1: But year three, that's like letting go of your crypto, 690 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 1: provided that your crypto is still accessible. But it's like 691 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 1: letting go of a bad stock. You don't let go 692 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 1: just now. No, it could go back, could you could 693 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 1: always dump it. Here's all, here's what you need. Not 694 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 1: that I would wish this on anybody. Derek Carr goes 695 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 1: to New York. They keep Zach Wilson. Derek Car is 696 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,280 Speaker 1: a really good season, but he misses a couple of games. 697 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson steps in, shows how much he's grown a 698 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 1: couple of games. Teams are swooning over him now and 699 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 1: they go and if somebody signs him as a or 700 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,279 Speaker 1: the Jets were able to trade him to somebody in 701 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,840 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, that's that's what I would do with 702 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 1: Zack Wilson. Yeah, oh no, if Car does okay, But 703 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,720 Speaker 1: Wilson shows that kind of him movement. It's bye bye Derek, 704 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 1: and then we're gonna keep Wilson. Oh maybe we made 705 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 1: the investment and we're gonna see this through. But it 706 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 1: could be over in New York, New York. It's tough, man. 707 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,879 Speaker 1: A lot of people can't take it, and I totally get. 708 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,879 Speaker 1: That's why I'll say this for Daniel Jones. I did 709 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 1: not think Daniel Jones should have been picked at number six. 710 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 1: I just didn't. I didn't think he was a first 711 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: round quarterback. I had him at thirty four, thirty five. 712 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 1: I thought he was tough. I thought he was athletic, 713 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 1: but he could run. But I thought his passing game 714 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 1: had a lot left to be desired. He has done 715 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 1: a really nice job with the Giants. I will. I 716 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 1: will admit that he has been very, very good for 717 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 1: the Giants. So I'm curious to see how the Giants 718 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,799 Speaker 1: handled that. I'll take it a minute to get that done. 719 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 1: By the way it happens, Yeah, No, I know, I know. 720 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 1: I know. It's like it's like people out there expect 721 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,959 Speaker 1: there to be this football microwave and they're like, hey, 722 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 1: put that put that quarterback in the microwave and make 723 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 1: him good. Like, it doesn't happen that way. You can 724 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 1: do that with brownie mix, or you could do that 725 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,840 Speaker 1: with a microwave meal, but you can't do that with brisket. 726 00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 1: Quarterback is brisket. You can't put brisket in a microwave. 727 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 1: What happens is you get these guys who excel right 728 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 1: away or close to right away, and it just ruins 729 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 1: it for people who need some time to develop. But look, 730 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 1: the league is not gonna wait for you. Okay, fifteen 731 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,880 Speaker 1: sixteen seventeen or Pittsburgh, Green Bay, Detroit, and then Miami's 732 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 1: pick is forfeit. Miami's boy, Miami's we had no idea 733 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 1: what too if two is health forfeited? So their fifteen 734 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 1: sixteen seventeen fourteen is Washington Football fighting commandos. That's fourteen. 735 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,240 Speaker 1: That's a possibility of a draft pick right there. If 736 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:38,760 Speaker 1: Levis is there, I could see that somebody of that nature. Johnny, Yeah, okay, 737 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,399 Speaker 1: So let me ask you if they reach and take 738 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 1: Duggan oh Man, All right, Mark, that was good stuff. 739 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 1: We'll continue that throughout well well after our last All 740 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 1: Access show, we'll be doing it through podcast Houston Texas 741 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:51,839 Speaker 1: dot Com. You definitely want to check it out. We'll 742 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 1: talk more draft than as well. Mark, great job, Thank you, Johnny. 743 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 1: We go back, We'll hit the injury report and go 744 00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 1: around the NFL. Right are in Texas Access. Welcome back, 745 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 1: the final segment of the first hour of Texans All Access. 746 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 1: It's a Wednesday edition, our last Wednesday edition of the year. 747 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,360 Speaker 1: I'm your host, John Harris Football anal a sideline reporter 748 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 1: game against the Colts twelve o'clock Central Time, one o'clock 749 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,319 Speaker 1: Eastern time, Indianapolis, Eastern time at this time of the year. 750 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 1: Injury report today for the game. Texans till to walk 751 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 1: through today. So this is only an estimation, but if 752 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 1: this is any indication, Texans about as healthy as they 753 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 1: could possibly be. Jimmy Morrissey's still dealing with cushion and issue. 754 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:38,240 Speaker 1: Stephen Nelson was sick, batigue in Quatriano who missed last 755 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 1: week with a thigh issue. He's a full participant, or 756 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 1: they expected to be. The Colts did have a full practice. 757 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,920 Speaker 1: Nick Foles dealing with the ribs to Fund Gilmore dealing 758 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 1: with the risk, Kylin Grants at the tight end dealing 759 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 1: with an ankle, Rashod Berry, Brandon face on them out 760 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,480 Speaker 1: as well. Rodney McCloud also missed, and if you heard 761 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 1: the first segment, you'll know why Rodney went. Rodney was 762 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,440 Speaker 1: a great frand high school tea up Tomorrow Hamlin. On 763 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,400 Speaker 1: Monday night, he drove from Indianapolis to Cincinnati to be 764 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,360 Speaker 1: with his teammate. So it just says not injury related, 765 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:11,880 Speaker 1: resting player, and that's more than likely why he was 766 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,280 Speaker 1: not there today. Ashton Doola is a full participant, dealing 767 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 1: with a concussion. A couple of key notes as it pertains, 768 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 1: and one of them will really impact the Texans. It's 769 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 1: the second one, Sam Howe. We'll start for the Washington Commanders. 770 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 1: We talked about quarterbacks in the first one. They drafted 771 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:30,799 Speaker 1: him in the fifth round. He'll get an opportunity for 772 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 1: one game audition, and I don't know if that's enough. 773 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 1: If Washington likes a quarterback in this draft, they'll they'll 774 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,279 Speaker 1: probably go get him. I don't know if Sam could 775 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,239 Speaker 1: solidify anything in one game, but I can tell you 776 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 1: it's not Carson Wentz. Maybe it's Taylor Heineken, maybe it's 777 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 1: Sam Howe. But I would imagine they're gonna look at 778 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 1: quarterback this offseason for sure. I think a lot of 779 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 1: changes coming to Washington, but the big one in some sense, 780 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,840 Speaker 1: the Bears will not play justin fields against the Vikings. 781 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,960 Speaker 1: It will be a Nathan Peterman special. Now why do 782 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,880 Speaker 1: the Bears matter? Well, if you've been following, you know 783 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,600 Speaker 1: the Bears are half game behind the Texans in the 784 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 1: draft standings. A Texans win, a Bears loss, and at 785 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,400 Speaker 1: flip flops the Bears go to one, to Texas go 786 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,400 Speaker 1: to two. Nathan Peterman will be the starter for the 787 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 1: Bears on Sunday. Yikes, you remember Nathan Peterman twenty eighteen 788 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 1: Bills at home, gave the winning streak, Jonathan Joseph picking 789 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,759 Speaker 1: him off, taking the out, Yeah, you know him. That's 790 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 1: whore starting for the Bears. So so yeah, there's that. 791 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 1: But either way, just whatever happens happens at this point, 792 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 1: and you'll go with it. You got too, because Nathan 793 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 1: Peterman is probably not gonna help you. All Right, we 794 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 1: get back, let's go maybe behind the Mikes. Matt Taylor, 795 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,799 Speaker 1: our good friend from Indie sits down with Mark talks 796 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,960 Speaker 1: about this one on Sunday. That's next the Texans All Access. 797 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,440 Speaker 1: We got one hour and down one hour left to go. 798 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 1: Right here on a Wednesday edition of Texas All Access, 799 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,960 Speaker 1: our last Wednesday edition of the year, and we always 800 00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:02,440 Speaker 1: kick off the second hour with my good friend Mark Fantom, 801 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:06,400 Speaker 1: the voice of the tech sins does men behind the mics, 802 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,239 Speaker 1: because John Harris, for playing as Salon reporter, gave him 803 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 1: this task many eons ago, and he jumps on it 804 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 1: every single week like a champ. This week it's Matt Taylor. 805 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,840 Speaker 1: Seventeen weeks after talking to Matt and playing the Colts, 806 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,719 Speaker 1: it's up again for week eighteen. Mark started with a 807 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:26,920 Speaker 1: question about how the Colts are dealing with the changes 808 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 1: and things that have gone on since the Damar Hamlin injury. 809 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 1: And I mean the Colts today, We're supposed to have 810 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 1: media availability with some of their coordinators and assistant coaches, 811 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:41,000 Speaker 1: and you know they canceled that in solidarity solidarity with 812 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:45,520 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. As you know, DeMar Hamlin now is 813 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,359 Speaker 1: certainly in the forefront of all of our minds. And 814 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:50,920 Speaker 1: you know, I was, like a lot of people last night, 815 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 1: you watched the game as a spectator, and I didn't 816 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,799 Speaker 1: have it on to begin the game and turned it on. 817 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,799 Speaker 1: Actually about I would guess maybe ten minutes after that 818 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 1: play occurred. And you know, I was expecting to see 819 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 1: you know, first downs and passes and tackles. Instead, I'm 820 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,360 Speaker 1: seeing you know, players on knees and an ambulance on 821 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 1: the field and just was was shocked and had never 822 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,399 Speaker 1: really seen anything like that. And you know, so now 823 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 1: it's all about, um, you know, as I think the 824 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 1: football community coming together and trying to put what's important 825 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 1: at the forefront, and that's the well being of a 826 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,040 Speaker 1: young football player. And I mean we're not talking about 827 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 1: ACL tears or shoulder injuries and rehab and surgery and 828 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 1: things like that. I mean we're talking about life and 829 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 1: death here. And um, I think the NFL has handled 830 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,400 Speaker 1: it well. I thought ESPN last night from a broadcast standpoint, 831 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,320 Speaker 1: handled it well. And I think, you know, these players 832 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:47,120 Speaker 1: are trying to compartmentalize, you know, being there for a player, 833 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,360 Speaker 1: a brother, um, you know, and just a great human being. 834 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,400 Speaker 1: And um, it's gonna be hard for the Bills and 835 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 1: Bengals and I think all of us, um to to 836 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,440 Speaker 1: go back to football when you have such a huge 837 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,239 Speaker 1: an important thing occurring. Again, when it's when it's life 838 00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,040 Speaker 1: and death, I mean football is a game, but this 839 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,839 Speaker 1: is so much bigger than all of that. Yeah, and 840 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 1: they won't make up that game. We'll see how it 841 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:15,200 Speaker 1: affects everything moving forward. It does seem strange. I think 842 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:19,000 Speaker 1: that every day things could change. Any minute, things could change, 843 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,240 Speaker 1: and we're hoping that the sun comes out and things 844 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,359 Speaker 1: change for the much better for Damar Hamlin. But it 845 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,400 Speaker 1: really seems strange to get ready for the games for 846 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:32,359 Speaker 1: everybody not directly involved with the game on Monday night, 847 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,640 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. With Texans and Cult scheduled 848 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,000 Speaker 1: to meet this week, and it feels a little strange 849 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,520 Speaker 1: to get hyped up for the game for the season 850 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:44,279 Speaker 1: finale with everything going on with this. No, that's exactly right. 851 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:48,000 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you almost feel insensitive, you know, 852 00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 1: talking about football, because right, I mean that the you know, 853 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:55,319 Speaker 1: Houston and Indianapolis, these are not you know, markets that 854 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:59,640 Speaker 1: were directly impacted by you know, the the ordeal last night, 855 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,520 Speaker 1: and so it is. You know, the NFL has already 856 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,960 Speaker 1: come out and said that there will be no changes 857 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 1: to the NFL schedule in week eighteen. It's I think 858 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,759 Speaker 1: it's the right thing to do to not play that game, 859 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,640 Speaker 1: but to sit here and talk about playoff ramifications and 860 00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:17,839 Speaker 1: you know, things that need to happen in the off 861 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,920 Speaker 1: season for the Colts. I mean, it's it's tough to 862 00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:26,200 Speaker 1: sort of go there this soon after the seriousness of 863 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,080 Speaker 1: last night. So you know, we're kind of treading water 864 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,520 Speaker 1: lightly around here, if you will. I know that's a 865 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 1: bad metaphor, but you know, I think last night's occurrence 866 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,520 Speaker 1: was so serious that you do kind of have to 867 00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:43,280 Speaker 1: put things into perspective and put the you know, upcoming 868 00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,799 Speaker 1: off season for the Colts and Texans at bay for 869 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,239 Speaker 1: a couple of days before we figure out, you know, 870 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,080 Speaker 1: the well being of Damar Hamlet. Matt Taylor, voice of 871 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:56,960 Speaker 1: the Colts, joining us on Texans Radio. Just football stuff 872 00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,520 Speaker 1: for a second here, Matt, as It's been a difficult 873 00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:03,000 Speaker 1: season for both these franchises, and I never thought in 874 00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,560 Speaker 1: a billion years that after the opening day tie that 875 00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 1: both teams would be in this position, probably the Cults 876 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,000 Speaker 1: more than the Texans. I thought the Texans had a 877 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,680 Speaker 1: good chance to win a bunch of games, a handful 878 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,600 Speaker 1: or more of games that just hasn't happened. But what 879 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,560 Speaker 1: are your thoughts on what the Indianapolis franchise has been 880 00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:24,280 Speaker 1: through this year. Oh my gosh, how long's your show? 881 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,960 Speaker 1: Where do I start? Yeah, it's it's been one of 882 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,279 Speaker 1: those years. I mean, I think on the disappointment meter, 883 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:36,040 Speaker 1: this is right up there considering. You know, in training camp, 884 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:40,160 Speaker 1: the conversation was, you know, can the Colts contend for 885 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,680 Speaker 1: the division? How many wins are they gonna get? Is 886 00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 1: it gonna be a nine win team, a ten win team, 887 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,279 Speaker 1: an eleven win team? And here they are marked they 888 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,960 Speaker 1: they've got all the markings of a four, eleven and 889 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,759 Speaker 1: one team. I mean, no one saw this coming. And 890 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,840 Speaker 1: I think, you know, everybody either got hoodwinked or something, 891 00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:01,080 Speaker 1: because I mean it was just it was a it 892 00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,440 Speaker 1: was a roster on paper that you know, could compete 893 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,160 Speaker 1: with just about anybody, and here towards the end of 894 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,719 Speaker 1: the season, they're not competing. And like I said, they've 895 00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:12,799 Speaker 1: got all the signs of an under five hunder team. 896 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,919 Speaker 1: I mean, they have the league worst minus one thirty 897 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:21,400 Speaker 1: seven point differential since that terrible meltdown against the Minnesota 898 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,520 Speaker 1: Vikings a couple of weeks ago where they gave up 899 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,160 Speaker 1: a thirty three point lead. Since then, they've been outscored 900 00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:30,600 Speaker 1: ninety seven to sixteen. You know, they've lost to four 901 00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,040 Speaker 1: games this season by at least twenty three points that 902 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,880 Speaker 1: got routed the other day against the Giants. Offensively speaking, 903 00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,000 Speaker 1: that's the root of the problem. I mean, defense is 904 00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:43,000 Speaker 1: definitely culpable, and they've had their fair share of moments, 905 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,839 Speaker 1: but the offense has just let the team down from 906 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,960 Speaker 1: start to finish on the season. You know, they've switched 907 00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:53,000 Speaker 1: quarterbacks five different times. When you factor in Sam Ellinger 908 00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:57,719 Speaker 1: starting on Sunday against the Texans, Matt Ryan didn't work 909 00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:01,239 Speaker 1: out like anybody thought he would. The offensive wine has 910 00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,480 Speaker 1: definitely taken a couple of steps back. So no, I 911 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,080 Speaker 1: mean that's a very short answer. I mean, we could 912 00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:08,840 Speaker 1: sit here and talk for hours about all the things 913 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,600 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis that did not go according to plan this year. 914 00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,120 Speaker 1: Matt Taylor, Voice of the Cults joining us. Do you 915 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,920 Speaker 1: think quarterback is the main issue though? That Matt Ryan, 916 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,520 Speaker 1: despite the fact that he's got so many pelts on 917 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:24,000 Speaker 1: the wall, it just wasn't happening in this year of 918 00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,400 Speaker 1: his career the way you needed it too. Is that 919 00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,280 Speaker 1: where it all started or is there other stuff involved 920 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,799 Speaker 1: as well? In your opinion, Yeah, I mean I think 921 00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,120 Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say that's in the equation 922 00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,640 Speaker 1: along with the offensive line. I mean, the running game 923 00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:41,560 Speaker 1: this year never flirted with its effectiveness as compared to 924 00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:45,000 Speaker 1: last year in twenty twenty one, when Jonathan Taylor led 925 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,120 Speaker 1: the NFL and rushing. I mean, Taylor himself was banged 926 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:49,960 Speaker 1: up a couple of times this year. He missed a 927 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:53,000 Speaker 1: couple of games with an ankle. He never truly was 928 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:58,600 Speaker 1: his explosive self like we saw so many times last 929 00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,000 Speaker 1: season when he rushed for over e teen hundred yards. 930 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,960 Speaker 1: Like I said, the offensive wine, I mean, the Colts 931 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,560 Speaker 1: have given up fifty eight sacks on the season, and 932 00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,320 Speaker 1: certainly the offensive wine is you know, they're going to 933 00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,200 Speaker 1: share the blame in that. But I think just the 934 00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:15,000 Speaker 1: immobility that the Colts have had this year, predominantly at 935 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,520 Speaker 1: the quarterback position, has really helped that number get to 936 00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,280 Speaker 1: where it is right now. I mean, Matt Ryan's not gonna, 937 00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,840 Speaker 1: you know, move around the pocket too much. Nick Foles 938 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:27,600 Speaker 1: didn't either in his two starts. You know, that's why 939 00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:29,960 Speaker 1: they're going to Sam Ellinger here. So I think in 940 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,000 Speaker 1: the off season it's gonna be about I mean, they're 941 00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,120 Speaker 1: gonna be draft in at least six in the upcoming draft, 942 00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,040 Speaker 1: and they're going to be in a position to get 943 00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,440 Speaker 1: a quarterback. And so if the Colts do go that 944 00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,560 Speaker 1: route in the draft, it's got to be, in my opinion, 945 00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,880 Speaker 1: a guy that has some mobility, that has some escapability. 946 00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,600 Speaker 1: You know, you don't have to go full Lamar Jackson 947 00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:53,200 Speaker 1: or you know, Jalen Hurts, but you need to have 948 00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,680 Speaker 1: the escapability of a Josh Allen or a Joe Burrow 949 00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:00,360 Speaker 1: and Patrick Mahomes and things like that. So, yeah, this 950 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,319 Speaker 1: offense right here has really really regressed. And since they 951 00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,759 Speaker 1: fired Frank Reich, since they fired Marcus Brady, they've really 952 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,279 Speaker 1: had no identity. They've really had no identity in the 953 00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,560 Speaker 1: passing game. The running game hasn't come to fruition either. 954 00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,440 Speaker 1: So it's just been a team, unfortunately, just kind of 955 00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,440 Speaker 1: going week to week trying to figure out who they 956 00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:20,640 Speaker 1: are and what they are schematically, and then I think 957 00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,720 Speaker 1: also culturally as well. Matt Taylor, Voice of the Cults, 958 00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:25,840 Speaker 1: joining us, all Right, give me two or three things 959 00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,040 Speaker 1: or players or whatever you want to pick that are 960 00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,600 Speaker 1: going well for the Colts, things that you think are 961 00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:36,520 Speaker 1: assets even through the storm here. Yeah, I think on defense, 962 00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,120 Speaker 1: I think collectively, like I said, they've had their moments, 963 00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,000 Speaker 1: but they're breaking down here towards the end of the season. 964 00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:45,600 Speaker 1: They're also breaking down, you know, Layton games. Fourth quarter 965 00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:47,680 Speaker 1: defense has been a problem. But I think the one 966 00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,280 Speaker 1: guy on that side of the ball that's really shined 967 00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,480 Speaker 1: this year and he's been given an opportunity and man, 968 00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,719 Speaker 1: he's run with it. And that's Zire frank On, their 969 00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:59,160 Speaker 1: middle linebacker. He's only a handful of tackles away from 970 00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,640 Speaker 1: setting a France record for tackles and a single season. 971 00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,920 Speaker 1: And prior to this year he was mainly a special 972 00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:09,120 Speaker 1: teams guy. But Shack Leonard hasn't played for most of 973 00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,560 Speaker 1: the season. I think he only played in three games 974 00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,319 Speaker 1: and like seventy four snaps on the year. So really, 975 00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,080 Speaker 1: Zaire has been the leader of that defense. He's been 976 00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:21,200 Speaker 1: one of their biggest playmakers. He's stayed healthy, he's stayed durable. 977 00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,120 Speaker 1: He's such a great guy off the field as well, 978 00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:27,440 Speaker 1: and so from a personal standpoint, you're excited to see 979 00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,240 Speaker 1: him have the season that he's had. He's under contract 980 00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,319 Speaker 1: for next year as well, and I don't know how 981 00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,360 Speaker 1: you take him off the field, even when Shack Lennard 982 00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,640 Speaker 1: comes back next year. Bobby o'cake is going to be 983 00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,600 Speaker 1: a free agent, so you know, I think the Cults 984 00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,120 Speaker 1: are in good hands there, but they might have to 985 00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:45,160 Speaker 1: shuffle him around a little bit to make sure he's 986 00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,560 Speaker 1: on the field. He's just been that good and that 987 00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:51,520 Speaker 1: impactful for this defense and then on special teams. You know, 988 00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:53,760 Speaker 1: we talked about the offense, so I'll go special teams. 989 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:57,200 Speaker 1: Chase McLoughlin is having a really good season. You guys 990 00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:02,560 Speaker 1: have Kamie Fairbairn. The Colts have founded Jim and Chase McLoughlin, 991 00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,239 Speaker 1: And unfortunately they didn't get him until week two because 992 00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:09,800 Speaker 1: in Week one Roderigo Blanketship missed that field goaling over time. 993 00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:13,080 Speaker 1: The Colts made the move immediately to cut him and 994 00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,960 Speaker 1: bring in Blanketship, who had spent time with the Colts 995 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:19,120 Speaker 1: back in two and nineteen. And he's just been so 996 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,319 Speaker 1: consistent this year. He's only missed six kicks. He's eight 997 00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:25,080 Speaker 1: for eleven over fifty and that's what it's been missing 998 00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,319 Speaker 1: for the Colts on special teams really since Adam vine 999 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:31,520 Speaker 1: Terry retired. It's consistency and then having a threat to 1000 00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,680 Speaker 1: make long field goals either in you know, two minute 1001 00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,600 Speaker 1: drills at the end of halves or latent game situations. 1002 00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,520 Speaker 1: McLoughlin's done a nice job of staying consistent in the 1003 00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:45,680 Speaker 1: kicking game and giving the Colts some hope and some 1004 00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:49,560 Speaker 1: confidence that he can make long field goals in clutch situations, 1005 00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,040 Speaker 1: which he's done more often than not this season. Matt. 1006 00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:57,160 Speaker 1: One more for you. AFC South Championship game, Jaguars Titans. 1007 00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:03,239 Speaker 1: Your thoughts, ye, First of all, just shocks that we're here. 1008 00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:06,239 Speaker 1: The fact that that's what's so frustrating I think for 1009 00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:09,120 Speaker 1: the Colts fan base is that it's such a winnable 1010 00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:12,799 Speaker 1: division and it's so obtainable, and the Titans are on 1011 00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,719 Speaker 1: this tail spin, on this depth slide, and yet the 1012 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:19,279 Speaker 1: Colts are just so far in the rear view mirror. 1013 00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,040 Speaker 1: I mean, they've been mathematically eliminated from the playoffs now 1014 00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:26,040 Speaker 1: for three weeks going into that Charger game on Monday night, 1015 00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,600 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks back. So just not being able 1016 00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,840 Speaker 1: to take advantage of this division makes the four eleven 1017 00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,759 Speaker 1: and one season that much, you know, tough to come 1018 00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,040 Speaker 1: to grips with. But yeah, I don't know how you 1019 00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,239 Speaker 1: don't pick the Jaguars I mean, the Titans right now 1020 00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:42,440 Speaker 1: are not healthy, they're not playing well. You know, Dobbs 1021 00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,719 Speaker 1: is going to play again at quarterback, and he's really 1022 00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:48,280 Speaker 1: inexperience considering, you know, just the limited number of starts. 1023 00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:49,680 Speaker 1: I know he's been in the league for a while, 1024 00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:51,600 Speaker 1: but you know it's going to be a home game 1025 00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,040 Speaker 1: for Jacksonville. I just don't know how you don't pick 1026 00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:57,040 Speaker 1: the Jaguars in that situation and give credit to them 1027 00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:00,120 Speaker 1: because they've just hung around and they've you know, I 1028 00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,440 Speaker 1: hate to use this word treaded water, but you know, 1029 00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,080 Speaker 1: they haven't beat themselves. They don't turn the football over, 1030 00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,359 Speaker 1: and I think that should be a moral for the 1031 00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,040 Speaker 1: Colts and Texans. I mean, if you don't beat yourself, 1032 00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,520 Speaker 1: because the Colts you know, are thirty first in the 1033 00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,640 Speaker 1: NFL and giveaways. You know, they have a hard time 1034 00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:17,919 Speaker 1: hanging onto the ball with fumbles and Matt Ryan leads 1035 00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,839 Speaker 1: the NFL in interceptions. So how many more wins would 1036 00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,080 Speaker 1: the Colts have this year if they didn't turn the 1037 00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:26,080 Speaker 1: football over with the high propensity? So credit to the 1038 00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:29,160 Speaker 1: Jaguars for just kind of playing even for most of 1039 00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:32,000 Speaker 1: those games, playing close games, you're gonna win more than 1040 00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,360 Speaker 1: your fair share. If you just hang onto the football 1041 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,919 Speaker 1: and you don't beat yourself. That's what they've done this year, 1042 00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,080 Speaker 1: and I think they're going to win the AFC. Souse 1043 00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:42,360 Speaker 1: Matt Grape visiting with you as always, Let's hope for 1044 00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,800 Speaker 1: the very best this week for Damar Hamlin, the entire league. 1045 00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:49,040 Speaker 1: Thanks a lot for visiting and we'll see you on Sunday. Thanks, 1046 00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,600 Speaker 1: you got it. Be good. Look forward to seeing Matt 1047 00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,840 Speaker 1: on Sunday on the booth next door. Obviously I'll be 1048 00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:56,960 Speaker 1: down on the sidelines, but Matt used to be me. 1049 00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:58,880 Speaker 1: You should be down on the sidelines. Moved up to 1050 00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,400 Speaker 1: the booth. I think it was twenty eighteen that he 1051 00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,120 Speaker 1: moved up there and does a great job for the 1052 00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:07,080 Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts. Speaking of doing a great job, Andre Johnson 1053 00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:11,759 Speaker 1: has done a tremendous job as a Texan and being 1054 00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:15,680 Speaker 1: a Texans ambassador, legend, whatever you'd like to label him as. 1055 00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,440 Speaker 1: He's going to the Hall of Fame, says Drew Doherty. 1056 00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:22,240 Speaker 1: I concur and we discussed it on in the lab. Next, 1057 00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:25,880 Speaker 1: it's time for the s LB Stats Challenge, brought to 1058 00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:29,200 Speaker 1: you by our good friends at s l B and 1059 00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:34,120 Speaker 1: this week The stat is one thirty nine slash five. 1060 00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:38,600 Speaker 1: Now you're gonna wait a second, Well that's two different numbers. Well, yes, 1061 00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,920 Speaker 1: that's true. It is two different numbers. One thirty nine 1062 00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:46,880 Speaker 1: the number of tackles Jalen Petrie has recorded as a rookie. 1063 00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,160 Speaker 1: Eleven more, I'll do the math for you, gives them 1064 00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:53,000 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty on the season, which is just incredible. 1065 00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,279 Speaker 1: The five in the one thirty nine slash five the 1066 00:56:56,360 --> 00:57:00,319 Speaker 1: number of interceptions Jalen Petrie has had this year. Let's 1067 00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,160 Speaker 1: see if I can remember all of them. Two against 1068 00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:06,640 Speaker 1: the Bears, one against the Browns, one against the Titans, 1069 00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:10,600 Speaker 1: and last week against the Jacksonville Jaguars. They are the five. 1070 00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,680 Speaker 1: Who oh gosh, that was That was actually a little 1071 00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,359 Speaker 1: bit easier. I thought, you just gotta remember the two 1072 00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:17,240 Speaker 1: against the Bears. Gonna happen all the way in Week three. 1073 00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:21,080 Speaker 1: One thirty nine and five. No rookie since nineteen ninety 1074 00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:26,320 Speaker 1: one has reached those numbers. No rookie since nineteen ninety 1075 00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:29,240 Speaker 1: one has reached one hundred thirty nine tackles and five 1076 00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:33,080 Speaker 1: interceptions in a season. I know that everybody wants to 1077 00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:35,600 Speaker 1: slam dunk this thing and give the defensive rookie. They're 1078 00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:38,240 Speaker 1: to Sauce Gardener from the Jets, and Sauce has been great. 1079 00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:40,760 Speaker 1: He's been awesome, but he has been riding a wave 1080 00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:44,960 Speaker 1: of a very early first half of success. Jalen Petrie 1081 00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,400 Speaker 1: has been doing this all year long, and he's been 1082 00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:51,040 Speaker 1: playing his best ball the last probably six seven weeks 1083 00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:53,480 Speaker 1: ever since his move to free safety. So one thirty 1084 00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:58,840 Speaker 1: nine and five. That's your SLB Stats Challenge. Go to 1085 00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:02,400 Speaker 1: Houston Texas dot Com the SLB Stats Challenge. All Right, 1086 00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,320 Speaker 1: it's time to take DeAndre Johnson challenge and get him 1087 00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:08,360 Speaker 1: into Hall of Fame. Drew Doherty and I talked about 1088 00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:11,640 Speaker 1: that in End the Lab. Here we go. This is 1089 00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:15,240 Speaker 1: a special one. Andre Johnson is a Pro Football Hall 1090 00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:18,880 Speaker 1: of Famer, at least in our minds. So whether he's 1091 00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:22,320 Speaker 1: named to the finalist list tonight or not, he's a finalist. 1092 00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:23,920 Speaker 1: In our mind. He's a He's a Pro Football Hall 1093 00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:27,360 Speaker 1: of Famer. It's just it's that simple, right John. I 1094 00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:31,520 Speaker 1: don't think there's ever been any question. Again, it's when 1095 00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:33,520 Speaker 1: it comes to all of family, it gets, you know, 1096 00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:36,520 Speaker 1: how it gets subjective. I was just on earlier on 1097 00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:39,960 Speaker 1: Wednesday with my buddy David Juni a Tech SAX, so 1098 00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,040 Speaker 1: I do an interview with them weekly every Wednesday about 1099 00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:43,920 Speaker 1: nine o'clock. So you're gonna listen to tex Sacs. There 1100 00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:47,600 Speaker 1: you go. And he asked me about Mike Evans and 1101 00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:52,560 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer exactly, Hall of Famer. Mike's got something 1102 00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:55,439 Speaker 1: that I don't know how many of our other players have. 1103 00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:59,960 Speaker 1: He's got nine. This is a ninth year, nine zero nine, 1104 00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:03,280 Speaker 1: ninth straight to start his career. Nine straight, one thousand 1105 00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:07,960 Speaker 1: yard seasons. What of the receivers have done that. But 1106 00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:12,439 Speaker 1: David's point was, and I agree with he's criminally underrated. Yeah, 1107 00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:14,840 Speaker 1: because when you talk about great receivers, what do we do? 1108 00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:19,800 Speaker 1: Oh Man justin Jefferson's fantastic, Jamar Chase is awesome, and 1109 00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:23,320 Speaker 1: there's Mike Evans just cruising along, just being a nine 1110 00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:26,200 Speaker 1: all the time. There's not like a five one week 1111 00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:29,480 Speaker 1: and a three one week and a ten. He's a nine. 1112 00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,720 Speaker 1: Whether it's Tom Brady throwing it, whether it's Jamis Winston, 1113 00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:38,160 Speaker 1: doesn't matter playing Gabbert. He produces. And so I bring 1114 00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:41,000 Speaker 1: Mike Evans up because I think Andrea kind of falls 1115 00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,120 Speaker 1: to the same category. Now, he didn't have the consecutive 1116 00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:46,560 Speaker 1: years of one hundred one thousand yards. But he was 1117 00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:51,520 Speaker 1: so incredibly productive and the one thing, and I know 1118 00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:53,560 Speaker 1: John McClean will be the one that presents him at 1119 00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:57,960 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame in the discussions, the thing to 1120 00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:02,000 Speaker 1: me was he was getting a thousand yards with quarterbacks 1121 01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:05,880 Speaker 1: that ended up being a journeyman. And do you you want 1122 01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:09,280 Speaker 1: to hear his quarterbacks? Yeah, you got him in order. 1123 01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:11,400 Speaker 1: This is who he caught a pass from in his 1124 01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:14,120 Speaker 1: career as a Texan. I'm not I don't give I 1125 01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:18,360 Speaker 1: don't count the two years with the those other teams 1126 01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:23,360 Speaker 1: we won't name, but anyways, David Carr, Tony Banks, Dave Ragone, 1127 01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:29,120 Speaker 1: Matt Schaub, Sage rosen Fells, t J. Yates, case Keenum, 1128 01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:33,280 Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick, and Ryan Mallett Leoner tried to throw to 1129 01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:37,480 Speaker 1: him but they couldn't connect. And there's somebody else and 1130 01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:39,840 Speaker 1: there's a few others in there that played quarterback, but 1131 01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,320 Speaker 1: they just never completed a pass to him. But those 1132 01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:45,680 Speaker 1: are the guys, not Shab had a stretch there where 1133 01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:47,320 Speaker 1: he was really good. Okay, go back through that list 1134 01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:49,800 Speaker 1: for a second. Go back through that list. David Carr, Okay, 1135 01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:52,720 Speaker 1: so think about it. Three oh four, oh five oh 1136 01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,920 Speaker 1: six losers. The Texans did not have a winning record 1137 01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:59,240 Speaker 1: the first four years of his career. Andre basically was 1138 01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:02,680 Speaker 1: the offense he had. Dominic Davis Williams had had some 1139 01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:06,720 Speaker 1: good thousand yards seasons, but it was basically Dre. Tony 1140 01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:08,800 Speaker 1: Banks had to fill in a few times for car 1141 01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:11,240 Speaker 1: Dave Roghan even had to fill in for the both 1142 01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:14,600 Speaker 1: of them. Then you had the Shab Rosen Fellas seven 1143 01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:17,000 Speaker 1: h eight, where they both of them played quite a 1144 01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:20,720 Speaker 1: bit those two years, and then Shob settled in TJ. 1145 01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:24,320 Speaker 1: Yates went to Dre a lot in that eleven stretch 1146 01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:27,560 Speaker 1: where he was he was kind of guiding them in case. 1147 01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:33,560 Speaker 1: Keenum fed Dre in thirteen, and then the Ryans Fitzpatrick 1148 01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:36,880 Speaker 1: and Mallett they both threw to Andre in fourteen his 1149 01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:40,080 Speaker 1: last year here, which was a good one. It was 1150 01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:44,760 Speaker 1: like about an eight hundred yard campaign. But yeah, I 1151 01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:47,760 Speaker 1: mean guys who were, like you said, journeyman. Shab was 1152 01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:50,400 Speaker 1: the best of that bunch. Put a Pro Bowl or 1153 01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:54,080 Speaker 1: two together, Pro Bowl two, three seasons together, but he 1154 01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:58,000 Speaker 1: had his tough times. I think for me, I've done 1155 01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:00,880 Speaker 1: this thing that's up on Houston Texans com or will 1156 01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:05,760 Speaker 1: be soon. Think about it. On average, over fourteen years, John, 1157 01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:10,800 Speaker 1: over fourteen years, he averaged seventy five point nine catches, 1158 01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:14,560 Speaker 1: So seventy six catches in a thousand and thirteen yards 1159 01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:16,560 Speaker 1: per season. You're a Hall of Famer. You do that 1160 01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:19,440 Speaker 1: for fourteen years, you're a Hall of Famer. Here's only 1161 01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:22,040 Speaker 1: ten guys have more receiving yards career in the career 1162 01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:24,160 Speaker 1: than he does. This is why I wanted to hear 1163 01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:30,080 Speaker 1: the names again, because Shob had two Pro Bowl years. 1164 01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:35,360 Speaker 1: That's it. There's not another Pro Bowl quarterback on that list, 1165 01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:40,520 Speaker 1: not one, not one yet, and I wanted to I 1166 01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:43,120 Speaker 1: almost don't even want to do this. I'm only doing 1167 01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:46,080 Speaker 1: this from a comparison's sake because I do, down deep 1168 01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:50,040 Speaker 1: feel like Reggie Wayne was incredibly productive and should probably 1169 01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:51,360 Speaker 1: go into the Hall of Fame. I think he's a 1170 01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:52,720 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer too. He's not as good as Drey, 1171 01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:54,600 Speaker 1: but he's a Hall of Famer yet. Peyton Manning on 1172 01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:56,640 Speaker 1: one side, he and Andrew Luck on the other side. 1173 01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:00,960 Speaker 1: Dre had two years of match shop and those I mean, 1174 01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:05,480 Speaker 1: Matt went to the Pro Bowl two years two. That's it. 1175 01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:09,960 Speaker 1: That's it. You look at quarterbacks around the league, and 1176 01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:11,919 Speaker 1: that's why I give a lot of credit to Steve 1177 01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:15,800 Speaker 1: Smith Senior. Two. I love that guy. He played with 1178 01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:21,680 Speaker 1: Jake delom And. As much as I like Jake dilom So, 1179 01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:26,040 Speaker 1: he wasn't pro bowler that I can remember, but Steve 1180 01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:29,720 Speaker 1: Smith still produced. Joe Flacco won a Super Bowl. Yeah, 1181 01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:32,520 Speaker 1: I get that, but the years that Smith was there, 1182 01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:37,480 Speaker 1: Flacco was, he was not a pro bowler. So I 1183 01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:40,280 Speaker 1: give a lot of credit to those guys, especially like 1184 01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:45,520 Speaker 1: Steve Smith. He was the guy. They got Greg Olson later, 1185 01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:50,360 Speaker 1: but Steve Smith was the guy in Carolina when everybody 1186 01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:55,440 Speaker 1: knew he was the guy. I guarantee you through four five, 1187 01:03:55,720 --> 01:04:02,240 Speaker 1: six oh seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen. Wasn't 1188 01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:08,120 Speaker 1: until fourteen probably where teams were like maybe Hopkins, but 1189 01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:10,600 Speaker 1: every other year it was like, Okay, how do we 1190 01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:14,200 Speaker 1: stop eighty? What do we do? Every team's game plan 1191 01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:18,920 Speaker 1: was to stop Andre Johnson. There was no well, you know, 1192 01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:21,040 Speaker 1: there's Reggie Wayning one side and there's Margot Harrison on 1193 01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:23,160 Speaker 1: the other side. M Now, I don' wanta take away 1194 01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:25,120 Speaker 1: from Regie because he had a good teammate, and I 1195 01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:28,800 Speaker 1: don't want to disparage other teammates of Andre Johnson. But 1196 01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:31,680 Speaker 1: it's pretty clear that there are guys that are being 1197 01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:35,080 Speaker 1: considered for the Hall of Fame that allow those other 1198 01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:38,200 Speaker 1: great players to be even greater because they took the 1199 01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:41,360 Speaker 1: attention off them. Who took the attention off with Dre Yeah, 1200 01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:45,120 Speaker 1: at times it was Owen Daniels, times it was Arian 1201 01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:48,640 Speaker 1: Foster at times like you mentioned last two years of 1202 01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:54,320 Speaker 1: his career DeAndre Hopkins. Okay, another thing about Andre, so 1203 01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:58,040 Speaker 1: like I said, he's eleventh all time in career receiving yardage. 1204 01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:03,240 Speaker 1: The ten guys in front of him Jerry Rice, Larry Fitzgerald, 1205 01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:08,240 Speaker 1: Terall Owens, Randy Moss, Isaac Bruce, Tony Gonzalez. That's the 1206 01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:12,160 Speaker 1: lone tight end out of this group. Tim Brown, Steve 1207 01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:15,960 Speaker 1: Smith Senior, like you mentioned, Marvin Harrison, and Reggie Wayne. 1208 01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:18,520 Speaker 1: Those are the only guys ahead of him and receiving yardage. 1209 01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:23,240 Speaker 1: All of those guys except for Fitzgerald, Smith and Wayne 1210 01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:24,640 Speaker 1: are in the Hall of Fame, and I think those 1211 01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:26,680 Speaker 1: three deserve to be in the Hall of Fame. Those 1212 01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:30,480 Speaker 1: are those guys are Hall of famers. Ye. Okay, per 1213 01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:35,120 Speaker 1: game over their career. The only guys who had more 1214 01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:39,760 Speaker 1: catches per game, more yards per game than Drey. How 1215 01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:42,320 Speaker 1: many do you think it is out of those ten 1216 01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:46,919 Speaker 1: that had both more yards and more catches per game 1217 01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:54,160 Speaker 1: per game, yeah, Jerry Rice. Yep, I would lean tarall Owens. Nope, 1218 01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:57,800 Speaker 1: but it's so yeah, it's so many sad that totally 1219 01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:00,880 Speaker 1: surprised me. Is it just Jerry Rice? It's Jerry Rice 1220 01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:04,240 Speaker 1: and Marvin Harrison. Yeah, okay, And out of that ten, 1221 01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:07,920 Speaker 1: every single one of them was on a team that 1222 01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:11,600 Speaker 1: at least once played in a conference title game. Gonzalez 1223 01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:14,200 Speaker 1: and Dre are the only two that their teams never 1224 01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:16,200 Speaker 1: made it to a super Bowl. Yeah, so that has 1225 01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:20,080 Speaker 1: a that's a big deal, and their team's not making 1226 01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:21,880 Speaker 1: it to the Super Bowl is clearly no fault of 1227 01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:23,760 Speaker 1: their own. I mean, they were the driving forces on 1228 01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:27,200 Speaker 1: those teams for most of them. But that has a 1229 01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:28,960 Speaker 1: lot to do with it as well. You play on 1230 01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:32,240 Speaker 1: a good team, you know, You're you're part of an ensemble, 1231 01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:34,400 Speaker 1: you know, and they were not on a good team. 1232 01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:38,360 Speaker 1: So Dre just he's a Hall of Famer in my book, 1233 01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:39,720 Speaker 1: He's a Hall of Famer in your book. But I 1234 01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:43,840 Speaker 1: don't think the majority of Hall of Fame voters had 1235 01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:46,160 Speaker 1: the exposure to him that we did. I know, they 1236 01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:48,080 Speaker 1: didn't have the same that we did. They didn't seem 1237 01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:50,400 Speaker 1: as much. So it's out of sight, out of mind 1238 01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:54,320 Speaker 1: because those first four years, really first five, six, seven 1239 01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:56,720 Speaker 1: years before they went to the playoffs, you know, they 1240 01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:59,320 Speaker 1: were people weren't thinking about him. Now fantasy owners knew 1241 01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:04,040 Speaker 1: all about are Johnson, but absolutely, I just just it's 1242 01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:08,919 Speaker 1: rough and the other I mean to to no fault 1243 01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:13,200 Speaker 1: of anybody's own, Dre did all an expansion team. I mean, 1244 01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:16,240 Speaker 1: he was legit on an expansion team is the first 1245 01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:18,240 Speaker 1: four or five years of his career, and it wasn't. 1246 01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:21,200 Speaker 1: I The turning point to me is when Shop gets 1247 01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:23,280 Speaker 1: here in OH seven and John Harris gets here in 1248 01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:25,480 Speaker 1: OH seven. So that's kind of the turning point. Really. Well, 1249 01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:28,720 Speaker 1: you know what happened in OH seven, he missed He 1250 01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:32,160 Speaker 1: missed nine games, but in you know, he missed weeks 1251 01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:34,960 Speaker 1: three through nine with a knee injury. Right. He averaged 1252 01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:36,600 Speaker 1: though in the other games, so he played at the 1253 01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:38,280 Speaker 1: very start of the season, the very end of the season, 1254 01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:41,600 Speaker 1: he was averaging six point seven catches in ninety four 1255 01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:45,040 Speaker 1: point six yards per game. He's still he tallied enough 1256 01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:47,960 Speaker 1: that he had eight hundred and fifty one receiving yards 1257 01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:53,320 Speaker 1: despite missing seven games, ye fourteen point two per catch. 1258 01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:57,320 Speaker 1: He had eight touchdowns in that that By that time, 1259 01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:01,680 Speaker 1: really the nation started paying tension for the most part. 1260 01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:05,680 Speaker 1: You're two thousand. It's two thousand and eleven at that point, 1261 01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:10,120 Speaker 1: and thirty in two thousand eleven. Thirty. Yeah, and so 1262 01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:13,560 Speaker 1: I think people start paying toll. The gutty little Texans 1263 01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:15,160 Speaker 1: look at this, They're gonna make plays. Are gonnain ANFC 1264 01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:16,760 Speaker 1: South boy. That was a great story about t J. 1265 01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:19,759 Speaker 1: Yates And obviously Dre missed a few of those games 1266 01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:23,959 Speaker 1: down the stretch, but then in the playoff games he's tremendous. 1267 01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:27,360 Speaker 1: But at that point it wasn't you know, the Texans 1268 01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:31,200 Speaker 1: had not been in the national spotlight. And so yeah, 1269 01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:33,400 Speaker 1: we're gonna be biased because we look at a guy 1270 01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:35,960 Speaker 1: like that and thought, man, match him up with everybody else. 1271 01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:38,600 Speaker 1: But just like with Mike Evans, you're almost gonna have 1272 01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:40,880 Speaker 1: to go to Hall of Fame voters, you know, just 1273 01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:42,400 Speaker 1: like your you know, your kids do this a lot 1274 01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:43,680 Speaker 1: of times. My kids used to do this to me 1275 01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:45,280 Speaker 1: when they wanted to get my attention. They would take 1276 01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:47,639 Speaker 1: like a piece of paper or whatever and go see look, 1277 01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:49,519 Speaker 1: and they would shake it in my face like look 1278 01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:51,880 Speaker 1: and you can't see it, like hold on, what are 1279 01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:53,920 Speaker 1: you trying to tell me? And then they would step 1280 01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:56,240 Speaker 1: back and they would explain it like, oh, okay, yeah, 1281 01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:59,160 Speaker 1: I get you, I understand. And I think that's almost 1282 01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:02,080 Speaker 1: what's gonna have to happen with voters to be able 1283 01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:03,960 Speaker 1: to say, like you just said, shake the tree a 1284 01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:08,240 Speaker 1: little bit and go, hey, hey, look at the quarterbacks 1285 01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:10,720 Speaker 1: he played, because they're gonna be plenty. And I don't 1286 01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:12,160 Speaker 1: know how the Hall of Fame voting goes. I mean, 1287 01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:15,479 Speaker 1: only only John knows. But they can only handle so many. 1288 01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:20,439 Speaker 1: So at some point you're gonna have to argue against guys. 1289 01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:22,880 Speaker 1: In your mind, you're gonna have to argue against guys. 1290 01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:26,960 Speaker 1: So how do I defend against Andre Johnson? Well, I 1291 01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:30,160 Speaker 1: didn't score a lot of touchdowns, Yeah, but look at 1292 01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:34,280 Speaker 1: these look at these per season numbers and these yardage numbers. Yeah, 1293 01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:36,200 Speaker 1: he didn't have a ton of touchdowns. Okay, we'll give 1294 01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:39,040 Speaker 1: you that, but look who's throwing to him. Guess what 1295 01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:40,880 Speaker 1: if you'd have Brady or Manning thrown to him, do 1296 01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:42,559 Speaker 1: you think he would have scored maybe ten to twelve 1297 01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:45,080 Speaker 1: more touchdowns in his career. What number do you want 1298 01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:48,559 Speaker 1: to see? And so that's the one thing is like 1299 01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:51,760 Speaker 1: what's gonna be the opposing argument? And I know Hall 1300 01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:53,479 Speaker 1: of Fame voters on a bad spot because they can 1301 01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:57,200 Speaker 1: only add so many when they probably and I'm sure 1302 01:09:57,200 --> 01:09:59,120 Speaker 1: there are many of them that were like, man, Andre 1303 01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:02,479 Speaker 1: Johnson was really really good. But I can't put him 1304 01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:05,680 Speaker 1: in over the guy I'm pushing or this guy, and 1305 01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:08,320 Speaker 1: I can't compare him to a linebacker. I can only 1306 01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:10,920 Speaker 1: compare him to other wide receivers. And yeah, compare him 1307 01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:14,960 Speaker 1: to other wide receivers. But I think sometimes the emphascists 1308 01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:19,400 Speaker 1: is on a different slable and because of that, like 1309 01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:22,559 Speaker 1: you see one thing, but hey, let's put the emphasis 1310 01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:25,160 Speaker 1: on this, like I think those numbers are and in 1311 01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:28,800 Speaker 1: the names in context, you hear WHOA, Well, I didn't 1312 01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:32,760 Speaker 1: know that. I'm telling you, I didn't even know that. 1313 01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:34,840 Speaker 1: I knew his numbers were great, and I knew they 1314 01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:37,639 Speaker 1: stood up to the test of time even more than 1315 01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:41,000 Speaker 1: you would think. But I think that Hall of Fame 1316 01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:43,840 Speaker 1: voters have to be swayed that way to be able 1317 01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:46,840 Speaker 1: to say, man yeah, Hey, I hadn't thought about it 1318 01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:50,360 Speaker 1: like that, and all he had was shob Man, Okay, 1319 01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:52,280 Speaker 1: maybe I need to rethink this, And that's what you've 1320 01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:54,400 Speaker 1: got to do. You've got to create in the minds 1321 01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:59,559 Speaker 1: of four people in that room a different idea than 1322 01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:02,880 Speaker 1: what they had and Andrea going in, and they should 1323 01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:05,360 Speaker 1: have an idea of him going in, but they should 1324 01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:08,960 Speaker 1: have an even better picture of that coming out of it, 1325 01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:13,240 Speaker 1: so I think, and obviously wide receiver, it starts you 1326 01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:15,200 Speaker 1: start to get kind of bottlenecked a little bit. It's 1327 01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:18,200 Speaker 1: been that way for a while with receivers, and you're 1328 01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:20,759 Speaker 1: not gonna put them all in. But I know Reggie 1329 01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:22,400 Speaker 1: Wayne ends up being a guy who gets compared to 1330 01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:24,240 Speaker 1: the most because he's kind of been in the same 1331 01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:25,720 Speaker 1: you know, he went to you and played in the 1332 01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:28,559 Speaker 1: league at the same time, So there's some of that. 1333 01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:30,920 Speaker 1: I just think the biggest thing when you look at 1334 01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:36,040 Speaker 1: it is at the receiver position, you gotta have somebody 1335 01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:38,200 Speaker 1: throwing you into football, and you gotta have somebody throwing 1336 01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:40,640 Speaker 1: you in football. That's a Pro Bowl caliber quarterback to 1337 01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:43,200 Speaker 1: be able to put up those gargantuan numbers. Yet dre 1338 01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:47,280 Speaker 1: was producing those gargantuan numbers weekend and week out with 1339 01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:51,080 Speaker 1: maybe a dozen quarterbacks throughout his career and one that 1340 01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:54,479 Speaker 1: went to Pro Bowls. Yeah, one, that's it. Yeah, So 1341 01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:57,760 Speaker 1: that to me is the biggest argument amongst others. And 1342 01:11:57,760 --> 01:11:59,120 Speaker 1: if I was, if I was making it, I would 1343 01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:01,280 Speaker 1: say I would say that. I would say he did 1344 01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:05,360 Speaker 1: this with this and let's go back and emphasize. For 1345 01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:11,639 Speaker 1: over fourteen seasons, he averaged averaged seventy six catches, one 1346 01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:15,679 Speaker 1: thousand and thirteen yards. Okay, he was a durable dude. 1347 01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:23,759 Speaker 1: He played thirteen or more games four seven eleven seasons. 1348 01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:26,720 Speaker 1: So he had three seasons where one season where he 1349 01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:29,920 Speaker 1: played nine, another where he's seven that was the eleven season, 1350 01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:32,360 Speaker 1: and then the last year of his career he only 1351 01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:34,760 Speaker 1: played in eight games with the Titans. But you take 1352 01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:38,000 Speaker 1: out those three years where he didn't play thirteen plus. Yeah, 1353 01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:43,360 Speaker 1: he actually averaged eighty seven point three receptions and one thousand, 1354 01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:47,439 Speaker 1: one hundred fifty nine yards the first number alone, just 1355 01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:50,320 Speaker 1: a thousand yards for fourteen years. You're a hall of famer. Yeah, 1356 01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:51,920 Speaker 1: you are a hall of famer in my book. I 1357 01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:54,439 Speaker 1: don't care if you played for the Texans. He played 1358 01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:56,479 Speaker 1: for the forty nine ers dynasty. He played for the 1359 01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:58,599 Speaker 1: air Raid offense at Texas Tech. You do that for 1360 01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:01,320 Speaker 1: fourteen seasons, your Hall of Famer, And then when you 1361 01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:04,200 Speaker 1: factor in what was around him, who was throwing him 1362 01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:06,599 Speaker 1: the ball like you talked about, and what he did 1363 01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:09,240 Speaker 1: against the guys who were ahead of him career receiving 1364 01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:11,640 Speaker 1: yardage wise, I mean, none of those guys that I 1365 01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:15,160 Speaker 1: talked about are just straight up compilers or not. They 1366 01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:19,519 Speaker 1: were all excellent, excellent, you know, explosive, explosive guys. Drey's 1367 01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:21,519 Speaker 1: right in there. Dray belongs in the Hall of Fame. 1368 01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:26,400 Speaker 1: There's no question. Obviously we are biased, yep. And when 1369 01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:30,200 Speaker 1: we are biased, we try and find information that leads 1370 01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:35,200 Speaker 1: to confirming our bias. Yes, but this is like mic 1371 01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:40,679 Speaker 1: drop stuff like look, look shake the paper like you know, look, 1372 01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:44,200 Speaker 1: oh wait, but he didn't even do it in the playoffs. Well, okay, 1373 01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:45,600 Speaker 1: do you want to talk about the playoffs and what 1374 01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:48,439 Speaker 1: he did do in the playoffs? Yeah, how about the 1375 01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:53,439 Speaker 1: four games in which he played, he had ninety yards 1376 01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:57,040 Speaker 1: at a touchdown. His first one eight catches for five 1377 01:13:57,040 --> 01:14:00,880 Speaker 1: catches for nine yards, then at Baltimore eight catches for 1378 01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:05,360 Speaker 1: one hundred eleven yards. The win the next year at 1379 01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:08,559 Speaker 1: home against Since in the first round, four catches sixty 1380 01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:11,040 Speaker 1: two yards. Ye, it's pretty good. And then at the 1381 01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:13,920 Speaker 1: final playoff game of his career they get smoked in 1382 01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:17,679 Speaker 1: New England forty one twenty eight, eight catches ninety five yards. 1383 01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:21,479 Speaker 1: So like he showed up, but he had other stuff 1384 01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:26,080 Speaker 1: going on. Um yeah, I mean he he needed one 1385 01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:28,840 Speaker 1: of those long playoff runs, I think too, And that's 1386 01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:33,120 Speaker 1: really what got Larry Fitzgerald. That's what got him the attention. 1387 01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:37,640 Speaker 1: Obviously Larry did it for a long time. But but 1388 01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:39,679 Speaker 1: Larry had Kurt Warner, a Hall of Fame quarterback, throwing 1389 01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:42,040 Speaker 1: to him in two thousand and eight. Now, Larry made 1390 01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:43,920 Speaker 1: a lot of that run happen because of what he 1391 01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:46,960 Speaker 1: did in the playoffs. But I'm fairly convinced that if 1392 01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:50,320 Speaker 1: it flips around that if Trey had that season had 1393 01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:54,600 Speaker 1: a playoff run like Larry Fitzgerald had, Jay would have 1394 01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:56,840 Speaker 1: gotten in on the first ballot. I think Lary Fitzgerald's 1395 01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:58,840 Speaker 1: gonna go on the first ballot when it comes to 1396 01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:02,080 Speaker 1: he should. He should, absolutely have no argument with Larry 1397 01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:05,400 Speaker 1: Fitzgerald is one of the greatest you have to have 1398 01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:07,000 Speaker 1: a period of dominance, and to me, there was a 1399 01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:09,680 Speaker 1: period for about three or four years where it was Megatron, 1400 01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:12,800 Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald, Andre Johnson. Those are the three guys. Those 1401 01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:15,520 Speaker 1: are the three. And when you get a period of dominance, 1402 01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:19,679 Speaker 1: when you hit a period of dominance of any stretch, 1403 01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:24,680 Speaker 1: any stretch, but then you maintain greatness, you're going to 1404 01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:27,280 Speaker 1: Hall of fame. You should go to hall of fame. Absolutely, 1405 01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:29,759 Speaker 1: dre eighty needs to be in that Hall of fame 1406 01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:34,120 Speaker 1: sooner than later. That man deserves it. Now. In our 1407 01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:37,920 Speaker 1: final segment, we're gonna hear from doctor Kevin Linzman, who 1408 01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:40,840 Speaker 1: does a lot of work with the Texans and Mark 1409 01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:45,000 Speaker 1: sat down and talked about DeMar Hamlin and injury situation. 1410 01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:49,360 Speaker 1: This is a really compelling look at commocio cordis what 1411 01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:53,000 Speaker 1: it is widely believed that Damar Hamlin suffered from on 1412 01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:56,639 Speaker 1: Monday night. And doctor Kevin Linzman will join us next 1413 01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:59,679 Speaker 1: to discuss that very compelling stuff. Next on Texas A Access. 1414 01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:03,360 Speaker 1: We want to final segment is Wednesday edition of Texas 1415 01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:05,519 Speaker 1: All Access. I'm your host John Harris Football and at 1416 01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:07,360 Speaker 1: side of the reporter and as that Teas coming out. 1417 01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:12,559 Speaker 1: Last segment, Doctor Kevin Lindsman joined Mark to discuss what 1418 01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:16,479 Speaker 1: the Mark Hamlin is facing at this particular moment and 1419 01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:21,120 Speaker 1: to explain commercial cortis. Commercial cortis is it's actually a 1420 01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:26,360 Speaker 1: rare phenomenon, and the reason it's rare. Luckily we don't 1421 01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:30,360 Speaker 1: see more tragedies like happened last night because a lot 1422 01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:34,680 Speaker 1: of athletes play contact sports. But in order for commercial 1423 01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:37,479 Speaker 1: cortis to take place, and what that means is it's 1424 01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:41,400 Speaker 1: initiated by a blunt force trauma to the chest, usually 1425 01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:44,280 Speaker 1: by a small object. So we see it a lot 1426 01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:48,599 Speaker 1: in baseball when a batter hits the ball and perhaps 1427 01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:51,720 Speaker 1: hitches hits the picture in the chest. It has to 1428 01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:55,000 Speaker 1: hit the chest in a certain way. And also more importantly, 1429 01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:57,960 Speaker 1: in a certain part of the cardiac cycle, the hearts 1430 01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:02,840 Speaker 1: some muscle, so it's activated it electrically, and so as 1431 01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:06,240 Speaker 1: that electrical impulse travels down the heart, it's called a 1432 01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:09,960 Speaker 1: cardiac cycle. It has to hit the heart at the 1433 01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:12,280 Speaker 1: right place and at the right time. So you could 1434 01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:16,160 Speaker 1: understand why I mean oftentimes we see in football, we 1435 01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:18,080 Speaker 1: see it in baseball, we see at soccer, we see 1436 01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:21,760 Speaker 1: it in the sparring. Sports such as boxing and jiu 1437 01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:25,400 Speaker 1: jitsu where a fist or a ball or something will 1438 01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:28,639 Speaker 1: hit the chest wall. Doctor Kevin Linsman with us from 1439 01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:34,840 Speaker 1: Houston Methodist, okay, tell me more about what happens upon impact. Yes, So, 1440 01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:39,920 Speaker 1: when the heart is basically stopped and when you this 1441 01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:42,559 Speaker 1: happened last night, the most likely rhythm he was in 1442 01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:45,800 Speaker 1: as a rhythm we call ventricular fibrillation where the heart 1443 01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:49,280 Speaker 1: just goes into chaos and it's sort of like even 1444 01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:51,840 Speaker 1: though this is probably not a very accurate description, but 1445 01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:55,000 Speaker 1: it makes my point is it's almost like the heartest seizing. 1446 01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:58,160 Speaker 1: And when the heart seizes, like the brain would seize, 1447 01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:01,360 Speaker 1: the heart camp function well as a pump, and so 1448 01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:03,680 Speaker 1: blood float of the brain ceases, blood flow of the 1449 01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:08,200 Speaker 1: vital organ ceases, and the athlete would collapse and be unconscious. 1450 01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:13,000 Speaker 1: Now the key is getting the heart restarted, because if 1451 01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:15,920 Speaker 1: we can get the heart restarted as a pump, then 1452 01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:21,400 Speaker 1: the likelihood of bad outcome is much more so. And 1453 01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:23,640 Speaker 1: that kind of leads into something that I wanted to 1454 01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:26,519 Speaker 1: mention is that we teach our trainers here in Houston, 1455 01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:31,640 Speaker 1: in the NFL, NBA, the Major League Baseball, any of 1456 01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:35,560 Speaker 1: the in the collegient leagues that if if an athlete collapses, 1457 01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:39,320 Speaker 1: we really should be thinking airway breathing circulation. You should 1458 01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:41,800 Speaker 1: immediately assume the worst case scenario and run out to 1459 01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:44,879 Speaker 1: check those. From what I saw last night, that was done. 1460 01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:49,760 Speaker 1: He had CPR started very quickly. Because we always think 1461 01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:52,519 Speaker 1: of athletes as are most is the healthiest members of 1462 01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:54,880 Speaker 1: our society. We don't think of them dying suddenly at 1463 01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:58,400 Speaker 1: a partiac event. So when that happens sometimes it leads 1464 01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:01,719 Speaker 1: to you, are they down, they are they injured muscular 1465 01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:05,720 Speaker 1: skeletal injury or is it more of ay're just I 1466 01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:08,719 Speaker 1: hate to say this being a little dramatic about a play, 1467 01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:10,639 Speaker 1: and so it's always tough to tell. But if they're 1468 01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:13,439 Speaker 1: not moving them, we need to really assume that they 1469 01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:16,840 Speaker 1: are seriously injured and do the ABC's we call ABC's 1470 01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:21,400 Speaker 1: their way breathing circulation. So if CPR has begun quickly 1471 01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:24,679 Speaker 1: and they can be defibrillated, which means the heart would 1472 01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:26,840 Speaker 1: be shocked with an electrical impulse to get it back 1473 01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:31,360 Speaker 1: into rhythm, then survival can be very high. All right, 1474 01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:36,360 Speaker 1: So in critical condition, Doctor Kevin Linsman with US Cardiologist 1475 01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:39,479 Speaker 1: of Houston Methodist Doctor for lack of a better way 1476 01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:42,160 Speaker 1: of putting it, how does one get out of critical condition? 1477 01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:44,680 Speaker 1: How does one improve from that state when they're in 1478 01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:48,880 Speaker 1: a situation like this. So critical condition would mean that 1479 01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:54,000 Speaker 1: he is basically in a spitulation where we're controlling functions, 1480 01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:57,960 Speaker 1: is breathing his blood pressure, We're doing it with either 1481 01:19:58,040 --> 01:20:02,080 Speaker 1: medications or and from what I understand, he is on 1482 01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:04,960 Speaker 1: a vigilatory assistance, which means he has a tube to 1483 01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:08,920 Speaker 1: help him breathe and help his because he is unconscious. 1484 01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:13,000 Speaker 1: Usually when this happens, you're unconscious for a period of 1485 01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:17,439 Speaker 1: days even and basically they induce what's called a medical coma. 1486 01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:20,479 Speaker 1: It's a it's a it's an induced coma. What we 1487 01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:23,640 Speaker 1: found is when if you look at the statistics on 1488 01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:27,760 Speaker 1: out of hospital cardiac arrest, they're very dismal. Only one 1489 01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:32,400 Speaker 1: percent survived. Now that's across the board. That's across all people, 1490 01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:35,800 Speaker 1: not just athletes. Now that the good news with this 1491 01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:40,680 Speaker 1: is he was in a football arena, He had MS, 1492 01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:45,080 Speaker 1: he had trainers, he had medical professionals attend to him immediately, 1493 01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:48,280 Speaker 1: which is not what happens if you're walking around the 1494 01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:52,240 Speaker 1: park and you you collass maybe minutes, if not longer 1495 01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:55,680 Speaker 1: before you're, you're, you're, you get any kind of medical assistance. 1496 01:20:55,720 --> 01:20:59,880 Speaker 1: So he had medical assistance very quickly. They resuss it 1497 01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:03,479 Speaker 1: hated him, which means they got his heart rhythm, his 1498 01:21:03,880 --> 01:21:06,320 Speaker 1: blood pressure stable, and then they took him to the 1499 01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:10,880 Speaker 1: area hospitals the University of Cincinnati. At that point, we 1500 01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:15,080 Speaker 1: usually induce a medical coma, which means we make him unconscious. 1501 01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:17,120 Speaker 1: We don't want him awake during all these things that 1502 01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:19,200 Speaker 1: we're going to be doing. One of the things is 1503 01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:23,479 Speaker 1: called hypothermia protocol. We cool him down, and this is 1504 01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:26,200 Speaker 1: in order to protect his brain because once the heart stops, 1505 01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:29,519 Speaker 1: the organ that we worry most about after we get 1506 01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:32,280 Speaker 1: the heart we started, is how much of the brain 1507 01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:35,479 Speaker 1: has been injured by not getting blood flow. So one 1508 01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:37,040 Speaker 1: of the things we found over the years, and we 1509 01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:40,479 Speaker 1: do this for anybody who would be out of hospital rest, 1510 01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:44,280 Speaker 1: is we cool their temperature down. We paralyzed them so 1511 01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:47,400 Speaker 1: they can't shiver, and we sedate them so they don't 1512 01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:50,360 Speaker 1: experience any discomfort, and we leave them that way for 1513 01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:53,960 Speaker 1: up to forty eight to seventy two hours. At that 1514 01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:57,000 Speaker 1: point we would eventually start to rewarm him. This is 1515 01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:59,479 Speaker 1: again what I assume they're doing there. I don't know 1516 01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:02,400 Speaker 1: that that's what I assume they'd be doing, and then 1517 01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:04,760 Speaker 1: at that point we have a better chance that he 1518 01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:07,920 Speaker 1: will have a good neurologic recovery. Doctor Kevin Linsman with 1519 01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:11,840 Speaker 1: US cardiologist from Houston Methodist Doctor the road back, we 1520 01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:14,120 Speaker 1: talked a little bit about getting out of critical condition, 1521 01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:16,519 Speaker 1: what about after that, what about recovery? I know there 1522 01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:20,599 Speaker 1: are other examples out there. Yeah, So the one example 1523 01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:22,960 Speaker 1: I'll give you that it's a very good one is 1524 01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:27,360 Speaker 1: Christian Ericsson in twenty twenty one is a soccer player 1525 01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:31,240 Speaker 1: died while playing in Finland. He's from Denmark and he 1526 01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:36,000 Speaker 1: was resuscitated successfully found to have a rare genetic problem 1527 01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:39,200 Speaker 1: called a channelopathy, which is sort of scary because it 1528 01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:42,200 Speaker 1: means that he just suddenly wasn't a blow to the chest, 1529 01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:45,240 Speaker 1: it was just that his heart went into this fatal 1530 01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:52,599 Speaker 1: rhythmia spontaneously. So after he was resuscitated he was this 1531 01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:56,440 Speaker 1: was discovered and that he had what's called an implantable 1532 01:22:56,680 --> 01:23:00,200 Speaker 1: cardio defibrillator, which is what's put in sort of like 1533 01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:03,880 Speaker 1: the size of the Pacemaker's very small, and it goes 1534 01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:06,280 Speaker 1: into the chest and the leads go into the heart 1535 01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:09,840 Speaker 1: leads are like wires, and what it does is it's there. 1536 01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:12,680 Speaker 1: If he were ever to have another event like this, 1537 01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:16,120 Speaker 1: it would immediately shock him back, because the chances of 1538 01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:18,960 Speaker 1: survival and a crediac arrest have a lot to do 1539 01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:21,400 Speaker 1: with how quickly we get the heart shock and back, 1540 01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:24,120 Speaker 1: and so this would mean that it would be done immediately, 1541 01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:29,040 Speaker 1: increasing his chances of survival. As I understand, he's playing 1542 01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:32,720 Speaker 1: soccer again. And so that's always been a little bit 1543 01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:34,920 Speaker 1: of a debate in the United States, is that not 1544 01:23:34,920 --> 01:23:37,400 Speaker 1: I've been involved with some of this, is that you 1545 01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:40,679 Speaker 1: really want to allow somebody with a defibulator to play 1546 01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:44,040 Speaker 1: competitive sports. One, it probably wouldn't be a good idea 1547 01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:47,200 Speaker 1: to play contact sports afpees if you have a defibrillator 1548 01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:50,200 Speaker 1: because of the chances the defibrillator would be damaged or 1549 01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:53,960 Speaker 1: your wires could be pulled back. But we've had it 1550 01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:57,280 Speaker 1: where basketball players were interested in playing, and there's a 1551 01:23:57,320 --> 01:23:59,360 Speaker 1: big debate on whether that's a good idea or not. 1552 01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:03,200 Speaker 1: The biggest Warriors inappropriate shocks, In other words, will the 1553 01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:05,519 Speaker 1: device think that you're in this arrhythmia while you're really 1554 01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:08,120 Speaker 1: just exercising, and it could shock the heart and do damage. 1555 01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:15,280 Speaker 1: So now with Hamlin, it this truly was commercial cortis 1556 01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:19,720 Speaker 1: and not some sort of genetic predisposition for him having 1557 01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:23,240 Speaker 1: in rhythmia, then he could play again if he recovers. 1558 01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:26,320 Speaker 1: This is some sort of a random event and you 1559 01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:28,960 Speaker 1: can't be screened for, it can't be prevented. It's just 1560 01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:31,720 Speaker 1: a random event, but to something I'm sure they will 1561 01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:34,640 Speaker 1: want to do further work up. Yeah, Mat, it's incredible 1562 01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:39,120 Speaker 1: stuff right there from doctor Kevin Lensman, and I'm just 1563 01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:41,639 Speaker 1: thinking about the situation, just kind of bringing it back. 1564 01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:45,040 Speaker 1: I just, oh my gosh, it's just such a scary moment. 1565 01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:50,800 Speaker 1: But Damar Hamlin has started making some great strides apparently, 1566 01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:54,519 Speaker 1: and the reports we've been getting from his publicist and 1567 01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:57,400 Speaker 1: his family all pointing in the positive directions. So that 1568 01:24:57,520 --> 01:25:00,479 Speaker 1: is tremendous news. And it's tremendous that you with me 1569 01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:02,920 Speaker 1: tonight and have been with me all year. These Wednesday 1570 01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:05,840 Speaker 1: shows have been great. We'll be back tomorrow night, two 1571 01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:08,280 Speaker 1: hours on All Access tomorrow night right here on Sports 1572 01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:10,760 Speaker 1: Radio six ten, and big thanks to everybody. Mark did 1573 01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:13,639 Speaker 1: an awesome job, Matt Taylor, and you had Ju Doherty 1574 01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:16,839 Speaker 1: on as well. Lovey Smith with audio jukebox Kevin lyndsman 1575 01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:19,479 Speaker 1: you heard from as well. We thank y'all for being here. 1576 01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:21,200 Speaker 1: We'll see tomorrow. As always, go Texans.