1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: Second hour, Clay and Buck kicks off. Now we have 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: been talking here about the Trump trial. Obviously New York City. 3 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: It's a big deal, you know, trying to use the 4 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: legal system to destroy a presidential candidate over the most 5 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: absurd stuff. I mean, it would be a reach. Let's 6 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: say Trump had pulled the hunter Biden. Well, well, I'm sorry, 7 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: let me so that would be great. I just meant 8 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: in terms of taxes. Okay, I just meant in terms 9 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 1: of taxes. Calmed down, everybody, mine's out of the gutter. 10 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: If he hadn't, you know, filed income tax or something 11 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: for which they thought they could get Trump on taxes. Remember, 12 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: but if they were holding a real tax crime that 13 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: Trump had committed until the election year, and then excessively 14 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: trying to punish him instead of say, letting him pay 15 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: a fine, which is often the case for a tax violation, 16 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: depends on what it is. You know, if they held 17 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: it until the election year, used it for political purposes, 18 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: and we're over punishing because they're basically they hate Trump, 19 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,279 Speaker 1: right and they don't want to be president, I would 20 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: still be saying this is an outrage. I would still 21 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 1: be saying, guys, this is they held it until the 22 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: last minute. They timed it to do political damage. They're 23 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: not supposed to play those games. The justice system isn't 24 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: supposed to be trying to forget about putting their hand 25 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: on the scale in this election. For the Democrats, they're 26 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: putting their butt on the scale. I mean, they're sitting 27 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: on the thing. They're trying to they're they're they're, you know, 28 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: crushing the scale on one side. They're doing everything they can. 29 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: And what they're doing against Donald Trump is not even 30 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: what I just ascribed to you, because there's there's no crime. 31 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: There's no crime. He didn't do anything bad. He did 32 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: nothing bad, He did nothing for which he should be 33 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: punished by the state. That is just a fundamic, fundamental 34 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: ethical recognition here. And you know, if I thought differently, 35 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: I would tell you, and I have in the past, 36 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: I haven't agreed with President Trump on everything. I mean 37 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: a lot of things, but not absolutely everything. And I 38 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: would say so at the time I didn't agree with 39 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: all of his picks when he was in office to 40 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 1: be in senior posts, and people got mad at me. 41 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: At the time is when I was doing the show 42 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: by myself six to nine Eastern during the first first 43 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: Trump term, people got mad at me, and I just said, look, 44 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: I'm calling him like I see him. And then of 45 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: course later on Trump said, yeah, I had some really bad, 46 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: really bad appointees, and then it was okay, don't Then 47 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: no one was mad at me anymore. But I was saying, 48 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: you can't have people who don't share the ideology of 49 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: conservatism and aren't really dedicated to America first, whore dedicated 50 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: to themselves first in very senior roles in the White House, 51 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: for example, And that was definitely the case in Trump's 52 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: first term. I'm just saying I would call it out. 53 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: But there's not only the political implications of this. I mean, 54 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: the brag case against Trump could theoretically put him in 55 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: prison theoretically. I still am. I have a tough time 56 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: with this one, right because on the one hand, I 57 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 1: feel like they don't have the stones for that, so 58 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: to speak, the HUTSPA. But on the other hand, I 59 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: just told you they are trying to put Steve Bannon 60 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: in federal prison. They are actively trying to do that, 61 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: and they will if they can. They have already put 62 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: Peter Navarro in federal prison. They have already put Alan 63 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: we Weiselberg, I think his name is Trump's accountant and 64 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: Trump Incorporated employee in prison in Rikers Island. I mean, 65 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: they've done this to people. We never do this to 66 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: their side. Now some are gonna say, well, buckets, we 67 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: fight fire with fire. We never do this to them though, 68 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: they do this to us. And we say that's not fair. 69 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: You're using a double standard, sir. And they just keep 70 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: you know, they just keep on punching us in the face. 71 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 1: We go ow ow. We have to figure out that 72 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: they aren't going to stop because it's wrong. They're going 73 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: to stop these things because they are made to stop, 74 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: because they do not have the power, because we win. 75 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: We have to win. Trump passed to win not just 76 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: in court, but in the court of public opinion. That 77 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 1: will be this pivotal election this fall. So that's all 78 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 1: going on. I name all these people who have been 79 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: sent to prison or imminently could go to prison, and 80 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: I'm not even including in that. They sent away Paul Maniford. 81 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 1: Remember they charge Paul Maniford. If you really want to 82 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: understand the full extent of the Democrat abuse of the 83 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: legal sin system in the Trump era, they charged and 84 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 1: added years in prison to his sentence, Paul Menaphort with 85 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: failure to register as a foreign agent. Now, first off, 86 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: that's a crime that never used to be charged in 87 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: a criminal fashion and nobody used to go to prison for. 88 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: But they changed that for Trump. Pharah was a speeding 89 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: ticket in DC terms, you pay a fine. They change 90 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 1: it for Trump to go after Maniford and Manifort's partner. 91 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: If I recall and you know what else do you 92 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: know who as clear as could be violated Pharah and 93 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: they didn't charge him and they never will because they 94 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: let the statute of limitations run out. Biden's son, Hunter Biden, 95 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: Joe Biden's son, Hunter Biden violated Pharah, no question about it. 96 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 1: No one can deny it. But they sat on it 97 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: and they buried it. So they just think about this. 98 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 1: They dust off a law that is never you for 99 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 1: criminal purposes to go after Trump's people, and they were 100 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: hoping to get more than just Manafort with it. They 101 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:12,119 Speaker 1: then ignore that same law for years to allow Hunter 102 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: Biden to escape the statute of limitations on it. And 103 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: they want us to call this a justice system. They 104 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: want us to pretend like we think this is a 105 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: fair game. In fact, I think you could argue maybe 106 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: more egregious than that. It's certainly close. The Logan Act was, 107 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 1: let's not forget, used as the pretext to entrap General 108 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: Flynn in a he said, he said conversation with the 109 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: FBI when he's the incoming National Security Advisor. The Logan 110 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 1: Act had not been used to successfully prosecute anyone in 111 00:06:54,000 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 1: two hundred years. But call me, because sank to Comby James, 112 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: call me is one of the biggest disgraces to law 113 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: enforcement to have ever served in this country. Coby figures out, hey, 114 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: we can in bad faith use this Logan Act thing 115 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: that nobody takes seriously in order to see what we 116 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: can jam up General Flinn with. And they were successful, 117 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: and they were trying to send General Flinn to person. 118 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: The whole thing was a scam. The whole thing was 119 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: a scam. That was the head of the FBI. That 120 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: wasn't some rogue agent in an office somewhere, and nobody 121 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: knew who the guy's name that was the head of 122 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: the FBI. So the legal abuse here has been a 123 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: long time coming. And that's why I think it is 124 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: unlikely that they will try to incarcerate President Trump based 125 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: on this New York City trial, but I can't tell 126 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: you it won't happen. Can't tell you it won't happen. 127 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: This was a couple of days ago. We've mentioned it 128 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: on the show. We hadn't yet talked about it, or 129 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: rather played the audio on the show. The Mayor of 130 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: New York City, Alvin Bragg, I'm sorry, the Mayor of 131 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: New York City, Adams, Alvin braggs the prosecutor Adams, the mayor. 132 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: The mayor of New York City was asked about this 133 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: and he said that, yes, there have been conversations, not 134 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: with Bragg's office, but with the prison you know, the 135 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: head of the I don't know who, the head of 136 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: the prison system, the head of the prison system in 137 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: New York City and runs Rikers Island, that yes, they 138 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: have discussed. Yes, they have had a conversation about incarcerating 139 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: President Trump. Listen to this. This is from Wednesday. 140 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,839 Speaker 2: So at President Trump's trial, they were talking about how 141 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 2: he might end up in jail if he continues to 142 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 2: violate its court orders. 143 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: As Rikers prepared for that, You guys have those discussions yet, 144 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: and if so, what would they. 145 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 3: Even look like? 146 00:08:54,960 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 4: Of the our amazing commissioner. She is prepared for whatever 147 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 4: comes Unrikyus Island. I'm pretty sure she would be prepared 148 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 4: to manage and deal with the situation. As you see 149 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 4: what's happening with Harvey Weinstein. We have to adjust, you know, 150 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 4: in this business, particularly around law enforcement, we have to 151 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 4: adjust whatever comes our way. But you know, we don't 152 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 4: want to deal with the hypothetical. But their professionals, everybody, Yeah, 153 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 4: had those discussions with Directions. 154 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: About that situation there you kind of heard at the 155 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: very end. Have you had discussions? You know, Adams was 156 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: initially trying to say we're ready for anything, and he's 157 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: speaking in vague terms, but he's pushed by that by 158 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: that reporter, and the reporter sure enough gets him to say, yeah, 159 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: we have had those discussions. So the City of New 160 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: York is ready, bureaucratically at least to take Trump and 161 00:09:55,760 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 1: put him in a cell. I don't even know what 162 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: this you know, how this can really go down, How 163 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: this could really because it's never happened before. So anyone 164 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: who says they know exactly how it goes is making 165 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: that up because it's never in the history of our country. 166 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: It has never been done before. And this is where 167 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: they're Unfortunately, they're hysteria, and it truly is a hysteria 168 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: among Democrats. This is where the hysteria is so important 169 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: because for all of their norm breaking in institution, undermining, 170 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: and systematic abuse to be justified, they have to believe, 171 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,559 Speaker 1: or at least pretend that they believe, depending on which 172 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: Democrat commie leftists were talking about, they have to pretend 173 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: to believe that Donald Trump is a unique threat to 174 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: the United States of America, which is a really weird 175 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: argument because he was a very successful president. Joe Biden 176 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: ended up taking over for four years and now by 177 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: all the poalsy American people want one Trump could be 178 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: president again. So somehow he is a unique threat to 179 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: the country that the country would like to run the 180 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: country for four more years. And they don't see any 181 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: dissonance in that. They don't see the conflict that exists, 182 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: because if they did see that even a little bit, 183 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 1: then they'd have to understand what they're doing here trying 184 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: to lock him up using the legal system in this way. 185 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: You know, the sad part of it all is they've 186 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: already interfered in the election. I mean, we're way past 187 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: election interference to really election subversion. Now, what they're doing 188 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 1: is more egregious than just dishonest media stuff and suppressing 189 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: stories in the background. They are using the force of 190 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: the state to subvert a presidential election. In fact, they're 191 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: using the force of a few states to subvert a 192 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: presidential election. I mean, this is not far in terms 193 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 1: of the level of abuse from Yeah, we're just going 194 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: to change out the ballots and the boxes. I'm just 195 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: being honest with you. It's really in terms of how grotesque, 196 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: immoral and wrong it is bringing holding all of these 197 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: criminal cases until the election year, specifically to stop Trump 198 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: from campaigning, to stop him from being able to make 199 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: his case fairly, to try to smear him, which is 200 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: not working, but smear him in the eyes of the 201 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: American people is really, like I said, it's not election interference, 202 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 1: it's subversion. I mean, this is the stuff that you 203 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: would expect in some third world hell hole where they 204 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: have make believe elections. That's what they do. And I've 205 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:44,839 Speaker 1: spent time in third world hellholes, and I used to 206 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: work at the CIA, so I know something about you know, 207 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: elections that aren't exactly on the up and up. And 208 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: this is what happens the people in power just say, 209 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,599 Speaker 1: oh no, to defend our constitution. And you know, in 210 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: a lot of these places, the constitution should be in 211 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: quotes entirely, you know, scare quotes our constitution. We've got 212 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: to lock up this very popular opposition leader. Oh, he 213 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: didn't pay his taxes. Do you know before he died 214 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 1: in prison? Do you know what they got navalny on 215 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: Alexi Navalney, the Russian dissident before he died, locked away 216 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: in some hellish Russian gulag. Pretty sure it was tax 217 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: and fraud issues like financial stuff. Oh, I'm sure it 218 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: was so dirty they had to lock him up for that, right, 219 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: it's outrageous. It's outrageous how it goes on in other countries. 220 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: And yet how different is it from what we're seeing here. 221 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: We've got a porn performer testifying against Trump about an 222 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: NDA from years ago about sexual a consensual sexual encounter 223 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: that she says occurred twenty years ago, and about a 224 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: payoff of one hundred and fifty thousand dollars and that 225 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: this was going to change the The whole thing is, 226 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: this is nuts. Only people who are disconnected from reality 227 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: and entirely dishonest could think that this is in any 228 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: way good for the country. And you know, it really 229 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: bothers me also as a lifetime until recently New Yorker 230 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: to see the city of New York not just dragged 231 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: into the middle of this, but really being used, being 232 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: wielded as a club to try to beat Trump into submission. 233 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: In this way, it's wrong. Trump is a native son 234 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: of New York, born and raised in New York City. 235 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: The fact that as a president he has not been 236 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: celebrated by New York City just goes to what a 237 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: delusional place New York has become politically, and what a 238 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: just a series of poor leaders they have had in 239 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: recent years as well. And I'll get into some of 240 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: the crime issues that are plaguing the city when we 241 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: come back here. In just a moment, lines are opened up. Also, member, 242 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: the vip emails opened up eight hundred two two two 243 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: eight two. You know, this Mother's Day weekend, take a 244 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: moment to reflect on the tens of thousands of moms 245 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: who have made the right decision over the last year, 246 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: choosing life for their newborn baby instead of abortion. Fifty 247 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: eight thousand of those mothers relied on women and men 248 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: working at the Preborn clinics nationwide to help guide them 249 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: to the right decision. Preborn's network of clinics exist exclusively 250 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: to offer love, life and support to pregnant women who 251 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: are feeling scared and alone and being pressured to make 252 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: the ultimate choice for their unborn child, one that can 253 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: never be undone. When a mother comes to Preborn, she 254 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: is welcomed with open arms and has offered a free 255 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: ultrasound to hear and see the precious life inside of her. 256 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: So often she will choose life. This Mother's Day, you 257 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: can help bring life to both a mother and need 258 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: and an at risk baby. One ultrasound is only twenty 259 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: eight dollars. 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Let's when it headed to Italy. 274 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: Card up in overall. 275 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 5: Finding on common grounds, how we deal with migrants and 276 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 5: asylum seekers, how we deal with affordable housing, are economy 277 00:16:56,360 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 5: sustainability to some important issues. And the most significant moment 278 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 5: for me is the opportunity to meet awfully found of 279 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 5: the Pope, his holiness and this son of a journey. 280 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: So the city of New York is mired in a 281 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: whole range of crises, and the Mayor of New York 282 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 1: City is flying over to Rome so that he can 283 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: hang out with the Pope and talk to assorted celebrities 284 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: and other I suppose politicians about climate change and the 285 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: migrant crisis. This is a vacation paid for by some 286 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 1: foundation tied to the Pope. But this just goes to 287 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: exactly what I'm saying. 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That's choq dot com 308 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: promo code Buck. Welcome back in here to play and Buck. 309 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: We are very pleased to be joined now by Michael Rottley, 310 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: who is the chairman of the r and C. Michael, 311 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:09,199 Speaker 1: thanks for being with us. Good to have you on 312 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: the show. 313 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 2: It's great to be on, Great to be on. 314 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 1: We got a lot of things talk about. Big election 315 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 1: year obviously, and the RNC is going to have to 316 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 1: come through in a big way to help pull all 317 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 1: this across the finish line. But first, the campus protests stuff. 318 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: As this is continuing on, I have thought that this 319 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 1: would would go far beyond just the initial few days, 320 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: and it does seem to be causing real headaches for 321 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: the Democrats. How do you assess it? And do you 322 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: do you think that this is a drag not just 323 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: for Joe Biden going into the fall election, but also 324 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: for other races across the country. 325 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this is definitely going to be a 326 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 2: drag on the Democrats for two main reasons. First off, 327 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 2: look at what these protests are celebrating. They're celebrating Hamas, 328 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 2: they're celebrating the kill of Jewish They're you know, they're 329 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 2: they're celebrating at tax on Israel. Uh. And and that 330 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 2: is something that the American people violently opposed. We we want, 331 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 2: you know, to stand with Israel. We support the Jewish people. 332 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 2: All across the world. So from a from a substantive standpoint, 333 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 2: these things are really, uh, you know, hurting the Democrats. Secondly, 334 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 2: look at who's funding them. You know, we've seen a 335 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 2: number of studies that have already come out that have 336 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 2: shown that the groups that are funding these uh these 337 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 2: protests are the same groups that are funding the Democrats. 338 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 2: And so you know, when when people understand that these 339 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 2: are far left, progressive Democrat funders who are are seeding 340 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,199 Speaker 2: these things, uh, that is going to have a negative 341 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 2: impact on the Democrats and the candidates as well. 342 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: Now there's two possibilities that also come to mind with 343 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: these protests, as these movements which we've discussed are very 344 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 1: much astro turf, right, There's money that goes into these things. 345 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: That's how all these tents that looked exactly the same 346 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: showed up on these campuses at the same time. And 347 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: we know there are different nonprofits that are left wing 348 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: slush funds that are helping with all of this as well. 349 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 1: But if this continues on, and it certainly seems like 350 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: it will for a while longer, let's start with the RNC. 351 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: Are you concerned and what preparations are being made to 352 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 1: make sure that in Milwaukee in July it's not just 353 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 1: going to turn into total pandemodium because of these street 354 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: communists running around. 355 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 2: That is our biggest concern. You know, you think about 356 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 2: fifty thousand delegates, alternates, guests, and media are going to 357 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 2: be in Milwaukee. There's a logistical challenge of getting that 358 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 2: many people in and out of that arena every day 359 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 2: for four days straight. But you throw the riots that 360 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 2: we've seen even in Wisconsin right over in Madison, we've 361 00:21:55,480 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 2: seen the protests, we've seen the encampments over there, that 362 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 2: that really does give us a lot of pause. And 363 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 2: so you know, we're working right now with about forty 364 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 2: different law enforcement agencies, including the Secret Service, to make 365 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 2: sure that we have that secure perimeter area as locked 366 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 2: down as well as we can. And obviously they're going 367 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 2: to be facing the same type of issues in Chicago 368 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 2: with a Democratic you know, convention as well. 369 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on whether they will this it's 370 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: clearly Biden base people who are on these campuses doing 371 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 1: all the crazy stuff and screaming the anti semitism and 372 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,360 Speaker 1: you know, shouting in favor of Hamas and all this stuff. 373 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: Do you think that they will actually show up at 374 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 1: the DNC to cause mayhem in Chicago or would the 375 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: would their handlers be able to convince them that is 376 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 1: not useful for the cause. 377 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 2: Look everything we've seen so far as this group is 378 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 2: even farther to the least than Joe Biden. I mean, 379 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 2: maybe they're hanging out there a RFK junior, But you 380 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 2: know that jenesp O group is very real, and I 381 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 2: think that there are political implications, and what they're trying 382 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 2: to do is drag Joe Biden to the left, and 383 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:17,239 Speaker 2: they're trying to drag Joe Biden into supporting Hamas. I 384 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 2: think the political implications of these things is very real 385 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 2: because they have already succeeded. The fact that Joe Biden 386 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 2: is withholding weapons and munitions from Israel right now while 387 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 2: they're in the middle of an existential fight with Hamas 388 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 2: is absolutely appalling. The fact that he's doing it to 389 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 2: try and shore up his own base in Michigan is 390 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 2: really troubling. 391 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 1: Speaking of Michael Watley, RNC Chairman, Michael, obviously, it's highly 392 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: unusual that Donald Trump is in the midst of a 393 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 1: criminal trial while being the de facto I know it 394 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 1: hasn't been officially officially announced, but de facto Republican nominee 395 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: for president the r n C pivoting and and can 396 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 1: you just take this into some of the strategy for 397 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: what the Trump campaign and and the other campaigns that 398 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: you're gonna be involved with. 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Here we're just talking to the RNC chairman 484 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: and that was a technical issue, so I did I 485 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: did not scare him off with my question how does 486 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: Trump win the election? We just lost lost contact there 487 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: and we have a lot of VIPs writing in. Let's 488 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: start with Mitch, who writes, Hey, guys, love the show 489 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: and you are really doing rush proud. I have a 490 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: question in regards to Michael Cohen and his upcoming testimony 491 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: on the cross examination of Stormy that the defense asked 492 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 1: if she hates Trump and was able to prove her 493 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: feelings towards Trump, would the defense be able to enter 494 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: into evidence the TikTok videos and statements that Cohen has 495 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: made during the trial while Trump has been gagged. I 496 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: would think this would be enough to disqualify any remaining 497 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: credibility that he had Mitch a very good and detailed question. 498 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: I would say this, and I think some of the 499 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: difference in how Clay and I tend to assess these 500 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: trials is that Clay looks at it from a very 501 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: illegalistic Obviously he went to law school and is a 502 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: practicing or is licensed to practice law. He looks at 503 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: it from a how the system is supposed to work 504 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: according to the system perspective. I look at it more 505 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: from a this is how the system is going to 506 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: work because it has been corrupted to go after Trump. 507 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: So that's just understand my perspective place perspective on this. 508 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: I think that's where we have we see it somewhat differently, 509 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 1: and this is where on what's going to be admissible 510 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: for Michael Cohen and what kinds of testimony will be allowed? 511 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: The first question should be that is addressed by the 512 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: judge and in these proceedings is this legitimate based on 513 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: the legal issues at play? But I think the first 514 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: consideration is will this damage Trump? And then it's can 515 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: we get away with doing this to damage Trump without 516 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: completely blowing up these proceedings and you know, making it 517 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: too obvious that there should be a mistrat which I 518 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: think there already should be making it too obvious that 519 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: the appeal Court should completely reverse this whole thing, which 520 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: again they should do that, I'm not convinced they will 521 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: do that. Look at this in DC. The District Court 522 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: totally array on this on the Jan six I know, 523 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: we got to keep all this straight right on the 524 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: Jan sixth case in d C. The District Court is 525 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: totally set against Donald Trump in a way that and 526 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: that's Judge Chuckkin. It couldn't be more obvious Judge Chuckkin 527 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: wants to She's been really I think the second harshest 528 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: probably judge when it comes to j six defendants who 529 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: have been before her in that court. There's one other 530 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: judge thing it's been even a little worse, but it's 531 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: close off to ask Julie Kelly about that one. But 532 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: she's very anti Trump. The appeals court in d C, 533 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,959 Speaker 1: the Circuit Court of Appeals has been equally anti Trump. 534 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: And it's only because it is federal that there is 535 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: I think a faster pathway to get the Supreme Court 536 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: to look at it, which is what has happened in 537 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: New York. It is a local New York City prosecution 538 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: under the state laws of New York, and so the 539 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: appeals court may not be any better than the court 540 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: that's looking at it right now. So we can't make 541 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: any assumptions. Oh, it's gonna be fine when all is 542 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: said and done. I mean, we're hoping an appeals court 543 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: in DC stop Steve Bannon from going to prison. Does 544 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: anyone want to place bets on whether that appeals Court's 545 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: going to stop Steve Banner from going to prison? I 546 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: can tell you this, They're not going to stop it. 547 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: Only the Supreme Court is going to stop it. Only 548 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court will prevent Bannon from having to turn himself, 549 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: you know, into a prison facility at some point in 550 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: the future. In my opinion, So when you ask these 551 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: questions about Michael Cohen and what should be allowed, I 552 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 1: think the question is much more You're much more likely 553 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: to know what's going to happen by what will be 554 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 1: allowed or what do they want to be allowed? Should 555 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: and will be are not the same thing in these 556 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: trials at all. The distance between them is massive. So 557 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: Trump is gagged by the court's order. Michael Collen is not. 558 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 1: Is that fair? Of course not, But it's not going 559 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: to be none of this is fair. You see what 560 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: I mean. None of this is fair. The whole thing 561 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: is a sham. So when we get too down into 562 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 1: the details, Oh but what about this? And you know, 563 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: I think he could raise this objection and hey, you know, Lee, 564 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,479 Speaker 1: we need to bring those things up so the public 565 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: can hear it. But they don't care. They do not care. 566 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: The people running these proceedings, the prosecutors, the judge, they 567 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: want to get Trump. That's what they're Their whole mantra is, 568 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: that's what the framework is around all of this. And 569 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: let's get to Jeff writes, Hey, Buck, for the life 570 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: of me, I can't understand why Comer has not pulled 571 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 1: the trigger and put out a report to get a 572 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: House vote on impeachment of Biden for bribery and corruption. 573 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: Hunter received millions from Ukraine for his dad's firing of 574 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: the prosecutor. Firing exchange for a billion dollar credit line 575 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: was bragged about by Joe on video. Maybe is waiting 576 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: for local elections to bring in a few more Republican 577 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: House members, but it needs to be done asap. Thanks Buck, 578 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 1: you're off the hook. Good at what you do. Well, 579 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: Thank you, Jeff, You're very kind. And very astute what 580 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 1: I'm impeaching. You know, you're not going to remove him, 581 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: So I very much think of and it's Napoleon, right, 582 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,360 Speaker 1: don't interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake. Democrats 583 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 1: are making such big mistakes with this legal stuff. Why 584 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: would we want to shake things up right now and 585 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 1: possibly bail them out by giving them something to fixate on. 586 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: I mean, do you really want to have endless Nancy 587 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,320 Speaker 1: Pelosi speeches on tea? But that says a travesty. The 588 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: impeachment f Jeff Biden is terrible. I mean, you really 589 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,320 Speaker 1: want them to have something like that to talk about. 590 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 1: They're not going to be able to remove Biden, and 591 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 1: I don't know how much worse things could look for 592 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 1: Biden than they're looking right now. So that's why I 593 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: would be slow to say that there should be in 594 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 1: it now. Our listener, Jeff says, maybe we wait till 595 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: there's a stronger house. Yeah. Sure, but then you're not 596 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:10,280 Speaker 1: talking about impeachment proceedings. You're talking about, you know, after 597 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: the fact, holding hearings on this. Assuming I'm sorry, assuming 598 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 1: Trump wins, Assuming Trump wins and Biden's gone, So I 599 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 1: don't really see it as as a good strategic move 600 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 1: right now, something I'm unwilling to do it. It's just 601 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 1: that I don't think that we should get in the 602 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 1: way of Democrats making a total mess of absolutely everything 603 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 1: for themselves Joe Biden, most specifically listener Steven writes in 604 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,319 Speaker 1: another VIP, remember go to clanbuck dot com sign up 605 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 1: become a VIP. You can see the video. We did 606 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 1: get a VIP who asks for a ginger appearance in 607 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 1: the third hour, So I'm I'm gonna go have to 608 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 1: wake her up from nap time so we can get 609 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: a little gingercam action here. She's so great. I told 610 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,320 Speaker 1: carry last time, like we got to get another one. 611 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 1: She's like, let's build a human family. 612 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 2: Now. 613 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, I know we're doing that too, but you 614 00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: know we're trying to human family, dog family. We can 615 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 1: build it all the same time. Well, I gotta have 616 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 1: a great wife who can hold it all together and 617 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 1: make sure the house is running smoothly. Stephen writes, it's 618 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 1: possible Trump is going Is it possible Trump can circumvent 619 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 1: the gag order like what he did where he read 620 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: verbatim a Jonathan Turley article and says, I didn't say it. 621 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 1: I'm just quoting what Jonathan Turley said. Stephen, again a 622 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 1: good point, But what I said before is what is 623 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 1: true here. What should be is not what will be, 624 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,359 Speaker 1: and the judge gets to decide. So if you're gonna 625 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,359 Speaker 1: try to play games and say, well, by the letter 626 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: of the law, I didn't say it. You know who 627 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,839 Speaker 1: gets to determine whether or not the gag order has 628 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:43,839 Speaker 1: been violated, the anti Trump judge. The system is corrupted, 629 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 1: the system is weaponized against Trump. We have to understand 630 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 1: that is the framework in which we're operating. We'll have 631 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 1: more on this and more updates from Trump himself coming up.