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Speaker 1: Kicking off another week here on one Bills Live, Chris

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Speaker 1: Brown here with you until three pm. Joining me at

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Speaker 1: the top of the show will be Andrew Peters as

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Sabers are coming off a very busy sports weekend.

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Speaker 1: Coming up at one former Eagles linebacker Ike Greece to

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Speaker 1: talk about the Pro Football Hall of Fame potential of

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Speaker 1: one Lashawn McCoy. At one thirty, we talked to former

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Speaker 1: Bills wide receiver Eric Molds about one of the best

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Speaker 1: seasons in his career. Tonight is the final airing of

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Speaker 1: the Top Ten Bill series Top ten individual seasons in

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Speaker 1: Bill's history. Molds will be on that list. And then

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Speaker 1: at two pm, Ricky Cop from Super seventy Sports, a

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Speaker 1: humorous Twitter site, we'll talk to him about that thing

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Speaker 1: and how it all got started. It's all coming up

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Speaker 1: next here on One Bills Live op touch Down, touch

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Speaker 1: Down Down. Welcome to a Monday edition of One Bills Live.

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Speaker 1: Our MSG viewers are watching some of the kids at

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Speaker 1: the Jim Kelly football camp out on the new Era

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Speaker 1: we'll actually hear a couple of comments from Jim a

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Speaker 1: The guy is just tough as nails. The guy. He

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Speaker 1: just has follow up surgery last week. He's at his

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Speaker 1: football camp this week and addressing the media. So we'll

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Speaker 1: play some of those clips from Jim a little bit

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Speaker 1: later on in the program. But look at this. No

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Speaker 1: John Murphy, no Steve Tasker, Chris Brown, and kind enough

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Speaker 1: the show is one Andrew Peters. So thanks for staying

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Speaker 1: a little extra, putting in a little ot. There's not

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Speaker 1: too many guys on this show that put in overtime.

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Speaker 1: In case you haven't noticed the last couple of weeks,

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Speaker 1: I have noticed. But I apologize in advanced everybody who's

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Speaker 1: sticking around wanting to hear football talk right away. But

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Speaker 1: I'm happy to be I like being in this seat too.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes it's a good little switcher. I get to see

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Speaker 1: how easy Craig has it. Yeah, you don't have to

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Speaker 1: Let them know where the show's gonna go, and then

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Speaker 1: ready to rock and roll. So I was, We've got

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Speaker 1: a full show, and we'll get to the slate in

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Speaker 1: just a second. But you know, I was out of

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Speaker 1: the loop for the entire weekend. I'm out at a

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Speaker 1: come back and obviously I knew the Dolleen thing, but

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Speaker 1: everything after that was a blur. But I heard you,

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Speaker 1: like in one of the last segments of your show,

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Speaker 1: talking about how you thought the Sabers in the Islanders

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Speaker 1: probably did the best in the draft. So what was

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Speaker 1: it not? Did it go beyond Dolleen for the Sabers

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Speaker 1: as you saw it, you know, rounds two through seven.

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Speaker 1: I think when you have the first overall pick, I

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Speaker 1: think the Sabers won the draft before the draft even started.

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Speaker 1: It didn't matter who they picked second round. No disrespect

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Speaker 1: But when you have the number one pick going into

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Speaker 1: anyone remember who Pittsburgh drafted after Sidney Crosby. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the Sabers just it's it sounds weird to say because

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Speaker 1: Jack echel is the best player on this team? Well

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Speaker 1: So um, there's a lot to look forward to with

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Speaker 1: you know, penalty minutes weren't glorified, but you know, I

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Speaker 1: mean so it was. It was you want to try

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Speaker 1: to get as many games played as you can. But

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Speaker 1: other guys, man, you have a chance to watch guys,

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Speaker 1: um I guess accomplish history, you get to be a

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Speaker 1: part of it. Well made along the ride. I mean

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Speaker 1: you put it on his tape for goal five hundred.

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Speaker 1: I mean you're talking about that on anybody's tape if

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Speaker 1: I was putting it on. Try to give you a

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Speaker 1: little credit here. Listen. I appreciate it, but listen, you know,

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Speaker 1: give credit where it's due, and it's not due here.

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Speaker 1: But I think, um, you know, I think a good

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Speaker 1: a good team UM is made up of guys that

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Speaker 1: want to see each and every player succeed in their

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Speaker 1: own way but also in the best interest to the team.

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Speaker 1: And when you have a superstar player, you want to

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Speaker 1: see him do well because you want to be a

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Speaker 1: part of it. Like you just said, there's nothing cooler

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Speaker 1: than you know, like when Danny Brier had ninety five

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Speaker 1: points here, do you know how many guys were rooting

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Speaker 1: for one hundred points for him? If he wanted to

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Speaker 1: play with a guy that got one hundred points and

449
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Speaker 1: went and you know, killed it in free agency. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like they that happens. And you know, like so back

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Speaker 1: to Lashawn McCoy. If I were to guess, I would

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Speaker 1: say that every player in that locker room probably heard

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Speaker 1: his comments about what he wants to accomplish, and they

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Speaker 1: are right there with him because they're thinking probably the

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Speaker 1: same way I am. If he does that, let's say

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Speaker 1: in the next two years, that would be something. How

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Speaker 1: good is the team going to be? How much better

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Speaker 1: will that be? For whoever the quarterback is, whether it's

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen, McCarron, Peterman, whoever it is, if he's performing

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Speaker 1: their jobs easier, yeah, no question. And you know, obviously

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Speaker 1: for offensive lineman, they don't have any stats to hang

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Speaker 1: their hat on. So if they can say they're blocking

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Speaker 1: for Lashawn McCoy, you're right. You know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Ruben Brown, I think actually has one stat and it's

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Speaker 1: for it's for a negative yardage receiving. The negative yard receiving.

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Speaker 1: Remember he told me. I was like, oh, line, don't

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Speaker 1: get stats, he said, but I do have one stat

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Speaker 1: and it's for negative one yard They got to be

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Speaker 1: off a tip pass or something, right, and he's just caught.

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Speaker 1: I think it might have been. Yeah, you have to

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Speaker 1: ask him about it, but I remember him saying that,

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Speaker 1: and and me, you know, being your fair weather football fan,

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Speaker 1: would will definitely say, um, I don't know what play

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Speaker 1: it was on, but it sounded funny to me the

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Speaker 1: way he said it. Well, it's gonna be a lot

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Speaker 1: of fun uh, this fall in Buffalo for sure, with

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Speaker 1: Daleene on the sabers, where Josh Allen fits into the

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Speaker 1: puzzle on offense for the Bills. I mean, there's just

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Speaker 1: a lot of it. Just sense the momentum coming here

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Speaker 1: in the fall, and you know, I think it's kind

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Speaker 1: of got Buffalo fans in general pretty juiced, you know,

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Speaker 1: on both sides of the ledger here can I bluff

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Speaker 1: my way through a football conversation ahead? Man, is Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen not guaranteed the starting spot? I don't think he is,

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Speaker 1: because I think there is a defined plan here as

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Speaker 1: to how they want to bring him along. And I

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Speaker 1: raised this point with Murphy last week. I said, I

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Speaker 1: wonder we all know why in general they want to

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Speaker 1: take this road with Josh. I think they don't want

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Speaker 1: to put too much on his plate too early, crush

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Speaker 1: his confidence, you know, etc. Etc. But I think at

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Speaker 1: the same time, I believe there's a chance that coach

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Speaker 1: McDermott could be somewhat impacted by how things went last

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Speaker 1: year when he wanted to get the rookie on the

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Speaker 1: field in Nathan Peterman. Obviously it went horribly wrong, and

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Speaker 1: coach you know, took the heat for that, you know,

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Speaker 1: to his credit, but you can't tell me he wasn't

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Speaker 1: impacted by that decision making. And for a guy that

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Speaker 1: is so methodical and wants to learn from the experience

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Speaker 1: he's had as a first year coach, you have to

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Speaker 1: believe that's entering into his thinking in how to bring

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen along. I'm not saying he wants to treat

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Speaker 1: him with kids loves. That's not the way he operates

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Speaker 1: with anybody. But I think at the same time, there's

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Speaker 1: a defined process here. It's subject to change based on

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Speaker 1: how well Josh plays in training camp, preseason, etc. He

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Speaker 1: doesn't believe he's ready week one, He's not start even

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Speaker 1: if he is ready. I'm I think it's awesome. When

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Speaker 1: I heard that, I can't remember the first time I

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Speaker 1: heard that, but what I was listening to the show

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Speaker 1: and someone said that's and I just remember thinking to myself,

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Speaker 1: I think that's a great approach to not because number

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Speaker 1: one now and Josh Allen doesn't strike me as the

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Speaker 1: type of kid that has a hot head, and you know,

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Speaker 1: meeting him a couple of times, seems like a really

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Speaker 1: down to earth young man. He doesn't strike me as

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Speaker 1: the kind of guy that would be bummed out if

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Speaker 1: he doesn't get the starting position. But this is exactly

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Speaker 1: how you should develop I'm not gonna say quarterbacks in

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Speaker 1: the NFL because I don't know. I don't know the

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Speaker 1: first thing about developing quarterbacks. But I know it worked

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Speaker 1: for the Rams with Jared goff Right. He had that

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Speaker 1: year under Jeff Fisher, then Fisher who was a quarterback

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Speaker 1: case Keenum okay, king him right right? So I mean

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Speaker 1: he had time to sit and watch. I only know

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Speaker 1: that from hard knocks, don't I don't think that I'm

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Speaker 1: sitting here, you're watching something, but it you know, like,

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Speaker 1: and how did he do? I mean it makes a

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Speaker 1: huge difference. And how about this less pressure on the

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Speaker 1: kid and if he doesn't know, if he just has

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Speaker 1: to get thrown into a game, there's no better way

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Speaker 1: to go in. I mean didn't necessarily work for Nate Peterman,

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Speaker 1: But I don't blame Nate Peterman. I thought Nate Peterman,

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Speaker 1: if that one interception doesn't get picked off, he's he

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Speaker 1: has a great start to his game, his first game.

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Speaker 1: But and I'm telling you he's not going to be

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Speaker 1: defined by that game at all. And I think everybody

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Speaker 1: conveniently forgets that he started the Colts snow game here,

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Speaker 1: throws a touchdown pass, the team's got the lead when

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Speaker 1: he goes when he goes out with the concussion, you know,

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Speaker 1: he can't finish the game. And I mean, he couldn't

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Speaker 1: catch a break last year, but that play, the way

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Speaker 1: he played in that game, I mean all I was

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Speaker 1: joking with him in the locker room this spring. I said,

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Speaker 1: all you were waiting forward the locusts to show up.

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Speaker 1: That was the only thing that was missing from that game.

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Speaker 1: And he's like, yeah. I was like, do you you

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Speaker 1: know I asked him about frustration. You know, You're like,

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Speaker 1: when am I going to catch a break here? And

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Speaker 1: he goes, you know what, I'm fine, you know, I'm good,

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Speaker 1: and I'm moving forward. He goes, twenty seven, twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, And I got a lot that I learned

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Speaker 1: from that year, and that's gonna help me this year.

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Speaker 1: And I think, you know, if Josh Allen doesn't come

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Speaker 1: along in the way he's in the way he could

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Speaker 1: or if he doesn't set the world on fire this summer,

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Speaker 1: just because he's simply not ready. He's mean, he's twenty

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Speaker 1: one years old. I think Peterman's got a shot at it, Nate,

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Speaker 1: Nate Peterman to me, And this isn't based on his ability.

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Speaker 1: It just has to do with circumstances and situation. He's

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Speaker 1: in the greatest situation. Do you know why in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: because I've been in that not in that situation as

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Speaker 1: a starting quarterback, you're in a position to be able

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Speaker 1: to prove everybody wrong. And a professional athlete who wants

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Speaker 1: to prove everybody wrong is a is a scary athlete

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Speaker 1: because it's more drive and motivation. It's not just playing

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Speaker 1: games and making money and doing this. It's now, I

568
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Speaker 1: have a full lineup naysayers, people that don't want me,

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Speaker 1: from the media all the way through to fans, and

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Speaker 1: you want to know what, the best thing in the

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Speaker 1: world is being able to prove them all wrong. And

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Speaker 1: he's in that position, and he seems to have a

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Speaker 1: great head on his shoulders because that last year would

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Speaker 1: happened to him. Not based on my scenario, just reading

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Speaker 1: everything that people were saying about him, could very easily

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Speaker 1: have been easy for any normal person to pack up

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Speaker 1: and want to go home. I wouldn't have blamed them

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Speaker 1: at all. I would not have blamed them at all.

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Speaker 1: And here he is. He continues to stand in front

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Speaker 1: of the camera and still want to try to prove

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Speaker 1: his worth in the NFL, and I love it. I'm

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Speaker 1: rooting for Nate Peterman, whether it's here or in Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: or here or somewhere else. That's a guy that I'm

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Speaker 1: rooting for, just based off his tough first season. And

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Speaker 1: no matter who the starting quarterback is, the guy that's

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Speaker 1: going to be behind him is going to be LaShaun McCoy.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about his Pro Football Hall of Fame credentials

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Speaker 1: as they stand right now. Just went over ten thousand

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Speaker 1: yards in his career last season. Obviously he wants to

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Speaker 1: get to twelve. But as he sits right now, what

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Speaker 1: do you believe is Lashawn McCoy's Pro Football Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame credential? You can tweet us, you can call us

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Speaker 1: at eight oh three oh five fifty one eight eight

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Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty. Check out our Twitter

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Speaker 1: poll right now. The four choices already needs twelve thousand

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Speaker 1: rushing yards to get in. He's a fifty fifty shot

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Speaker 1: without twelve k. He needs a Super Bowl win or

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Speaker 1: he's good now, but he's not going to go in

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Speaker 1: on the first ballot. And right now it's pretty even

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Speaker 1: between needs twelve thousand rushing yards or he's good now,

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Speaker 1: but he's just not going to get in on the

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Speaker 1: first ballot. And we've got some early comments on the

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Speaker 1: tweet sheet from John Dubik. He said, I think he's

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Speaker 1: good now, but with twelve thousand, he's a surefire first

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Speaker 1: ballot Hall of Famer. I think everybody would agree with that.

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Speaker 1: Good Now, it could be a little tricky, and I'll

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Speaker 1: list some names in the next segment as to why

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Speaker 1: it could be a little dicey. Ten thousand may not

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Speaker 1: be a lock, although I think that Leshawn in comparison

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Speaker 1: to some of the other names on this list of

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Speaker 1: guys who have ten thousand rushing yards, is a pretty

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Speaker 1: unique talent. I mean, that guy, as a lot of

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Speaker 1: NFL scouts would tell you, can make you miss it

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Speaker 1: with him in a phone booth. I mean, he is

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Speaker 1: just so good at making guys miss This comment from

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Speaker 1: Michael Vasquez on the tweet sheet. I think his numbers

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Speaker 1: are good enough to get him in now, but hitting

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Speaker 1: twelve k will definitely get him in the first ballot conversation,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's probably where a good number of

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Speaker 1: people at which is why the twitterpoll is so split

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Speaker 1: between that first and last choice, Pete. Because he's at

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Speaker 1: ten now, does he probably get in at some point?

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Speaker 1: I think most people would say yes. But if he

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Speaker 1: gets to twelve, that's lock status. And you know what's great,

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Speaker 1: he still has motivation to play, right. I mean, like,

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Speaker 1: that's what's going to be great for Bills fans and

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Speaker 1: the team is that Leshawn McCoy has goals to set

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Speaker 1: and in order to do it, he has to be great,

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Speaker 1: and the Bills need him to be great in order

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Speaker 1: to win. So it's a great combination for both and

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about it more on the other side. Pete,

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Speaker 1: thanks very much for coming in and kicking a show

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Speaker 1: off with me. Appreciate you weighing in on the Sabers weekend.

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Speaker 1: It's certainly an exciting time here in Buffalo Sports. Coming

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Speaker 1: up at one o'clock, we'll have former Eagles linebacker Ike

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Speaker 1: Greased to talk about McCoy's career in Philly and how

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Speaker 1: that will impact his Pro Football Hall of Fame status.

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Speaker 1: Eric Moles at one thirty, and a guy from a

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Speaker 1: really fun Twitter site, Super seventies Sports, Ricky Cobb, will

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Speaker 1: talk to him at two guys. Hilarious. We got to

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Speaker 1: talk to him about how that thing started in the

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Speaker 1: first place, because it's really taken off. He's got sponsors now,

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Speaker 1: he's killing it on the Twitter world. But I'm back

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Speaker 1: in a moment here with you. At eight oh three,

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Speaker 1: five fifty It's one Bills Live from One Bill's Drive.

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Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio here on a Monday edition

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Speaker 1: of One Bills Live. Chris Brown flying solo with you

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Speaker 1: up until three o'clock. So join me on the line

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Speaker 1: eighth three five fifty one eight eight eight five fifty

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Speaker 1: two five fifty as we are discussing Leshawn McCoy's Pro

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Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame status where it stands right now

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Speaker 1: at just over ten thousand career rushing yards, six Pro

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Speaker 1: Bowls on his resume. Also has two first team All

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Speaker 1: Pro credentials on there as well, and I think a

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Speaker 1: lot of people feel he's headed in the direction of

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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. Some might even think he can

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Speaker 1: get there now if he stopped playing tomorrow. But as

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Speaker 1: we all know, Leshawn McCoy wants to hit twelve thousand

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Speaker 1: rushing yards. And I think that's part. That's in part

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Speaker 1: for two reasons. Number one, I think it's a pride thing.

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Speaker 1: I think he needs. He wants to have a legacy

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Speaker 1: in this league when his career is over, and I

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Speaker 1: think he wants that legacy to be in pretty elite company.

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Speaker 1: And if you get to twelve thousand rushing yards in

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Speaker 1: NFL history, you are in pretty elite company. In what

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Speaker 1: will be about one hundred seasons of the NFL, he'll

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Speaker 1: be one of only about fifteen or twenty guys to

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Speaker 1: reach the twelve thousand yard plateau. And I think he

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Speaker 1: believes if he gets there, he will stamp himself as

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Speaker 1: a lock for the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Where

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Speaker 1: he's at right now, I don't want to say it's

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Speaker 1: in limbo. I would say his situation would still be

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Speaker 1: looked upon pretty favorably because I think he is a

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Speaker 1: pretty unique running back talent. You know, he's not that

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Speaker 1: North South drive for extra yards like Jerome Bettis was

676
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Speaker 1: he's kind of that shifty, make you miss kind of

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Speaker 1: running back, and he's done that, you know, for the

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Speaker 1: better part of the last decade. And I think he

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Speaker 1: believes if he can get to twelve k, that will

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Speaker 1: punch his ticket to the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: And I'm inclined to agree. But where he sits right now,

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Speaker 1: I don't know that it's a lock. And that's what

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Speaker 1: we wanted to discuss debate on the Twitter poll today.

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Speaker 1: So based on the Shaw McCoy's credentials right now, where

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Speaker 1: they stand, what is his Pro Football Hall of Fame status?

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Speaker 1: And that's our Twitter poll today. Is he a lock?

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Speaker 1: Is he a fifty fifty shot? Does he need twelve thousand?

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Speaker 1: Does he need a Super Bowl win to make him

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Speaker 1: a lock for the Hall of Fame? Or is he

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Speaker 1: good to get in right now? He just may not

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Speaker 1: get in on the first ballot. You can tweet your

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Speaker 1: answers at one bills live on our Twitter poll right now.

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Speaker 1: We've already got some answers on the tweet sheet. One

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Speaker 1: of them says, it's one from Tiffany Daniels. It's a

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Speaker 1: very interesting question. Twelve k opens the door to the

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Personally, I think Shady has the potential

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Speaker 1: to surpass twelve k. He rarely takes big hits and

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00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: is still quite elusive. If we find a passing game,

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Speaker 1: defenses won't be able to just key on our run game.

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Speaker 1: And I think that is a genuine concern for a

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Speaker 1: lot of Bills fans going into this season, because I

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Speaker 1: think the general perception as to how this offense is

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Speaker 1: going to unfold this year is again they're going to

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Speaker 1: be leaning very heavily on Leshaun McCoy, which is good

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Speaker 1: in terms of the touches he's going to get each game,

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Speaker 1: which will help his production to get to twelve thousand

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Speaker 1: rushing yards. But I think with the unknown at quarterback,

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Speaker 1: and I don't want to say fear, that's probably too

709
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Speaker 1: strong a word, but the concern on the part of

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Speaker 1: Bill's fans that the quarterback who is starting for them

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Speaker 1: will not be productive enough to keep defenses honest and

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Speaker 1: keep them from putting eight nine in the box to

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Speaker 1: stop Lashan has them genuinely concerned that, you know, he's

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Speaker 1: just not going to be able to do it and

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Speaker 1: produce over the next two maybe three seasons. To a degree,

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Speaker 1: where he's going to be able to legitimately have a

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Speaker 1: chance to reach twelve thousand rushing yards. I kind of

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Speaker 1: think he will get there. I'm not really worried about

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Speaker 1: that too terribly much. I mean, maybe not in the

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Speaker 1: next two seasons, but if he can play three more years,

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Speaker 1: I think definitely gets there. So for me, you know,

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Speaker 1: I just think it's a question of when, not if.

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Speaker 1: I just don't know if it's going to happen in

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Speaker 1: the next two years. I think it might take three

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Speaker 1: seasons before he in fact gets there, So we'll have

726
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Speaker 1: to see, you know, what the offense has in store

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Speaker 1: for not only McCoy, but at the quarterback position. And

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Speaker 1: again that's another unknown with Brian Dable coming in the door.

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Speaker 1: I think people can make certain guesses as to what

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Speaker 1: it will be, but I don't think anybody knows for sure,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's just the way Brian Dable wants

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Speaker 1: it to be. But I think if there's one safe bet,

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Speaker 1: it's the fact that McCoy is going to be the

734
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Speaker 1: featured part of the offense. And then you roll in

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Speaker 1: the fact that the offensive line is turning over at

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Speaker 1: the center and left guard positions, and you don't know

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Speaker 1: what you're going to get there. Maybe you do. If

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Speaker 1: Groy winds up being the starter at center but left guard,

739
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Speaker 1: do cos flipping over to that side? What's the blocking

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Speaker 1: scheme going to be? These are all questions that aren't

741
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Speaker 1: answered yet and will be as we get into the

742
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 1: preseason and the regular season to really assess, you know,

743
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 1: how that impacts McCoy. But I'll be quite frank with you,

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00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,879
Speaker 1: no matter what offense McCoy has been in, he's been

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Speaker 1: productive and I don't think anybody really sees that changing.

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Speaker 1: So if he does get to twelve, I agree, I mean,

747
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Speaker 1: I think it is a lot. But if he doesn't,

748
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Speaker 1: or let's say, god forbid, there's some awful injury that

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Speaker 1: he sustains and he's not the same elusive guy, does

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Speaker 1: he get in? You know, I think he may have

751
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Speaker 1: to wait. I don't know if he's getting in on

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Speaker 1: a first ballot with just over ten grand on the

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Speaker 1: rushing total list. And I'll go down the list in

754
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Speaker 1: a little bit, but before we get more into that

755
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 1: and take your calls. At eight three, five fifty on

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Speaker 1: Lashawn's Hall of Fame credentials as they stand right now

757
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: today and his chances of getting in. We would be

758
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Speaker 1: remiss if we did not mention that the Jim Kelly

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Speaker 1: football camp is back for another year and it's actually

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00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: out here. One Bill's Drive starting today, runs through this week,

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Speaker 1: as it does every summer, and Jim Jim is being Jim.

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00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: I mean, he's less than a year, less than a year,

763
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: less than a week removed from having follow up surgery

764
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Speaker 1: down in New York. But he's already back here in Buffalo.

765
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Speaker 1: And not only is he actively participating in his football

766
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Speaker 1: camp as he always seems to do, but he actually

767
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: addressed the media today and in addition to talking about

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Speaker 1: the camp, he also provided an update on how he's

769
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Speaker 1: feeling post surgery. Very sure, Um, but part of my

770
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Speaker 1: life seem block every year I'm four, three or four

771
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Speaker 1: time for a period of time. But you know what, mom,

772
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Speaker 1: because you're fighting me. Hopefully one day I'll be able

773
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Speaker 1: to walk out of my front door and feel the

774
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Speaker 1: slumbanking on. He said a few weeks ago that it

775
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Speaker 1: was maybe really important and knowing even the small gap

776
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: after so he didn't even a two year Our guys,

777
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Speaker 1: was there ever a doubt? Um? Well, I you like

778
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Speaker 1: be here, but I didn't know. I'm much going participating. Um,

779
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: I'm still gonna play flag football. That's why I heard

780
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: up and came up. Period. Tough y'all and get out there.

781
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: Don't part from me to do a lot of it's

782
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Speaker 1: talking because I still you know, uper jaw is completely

783
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Speaker 1: covered with sisters. So that's also away from the right

784
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Speaker 1: to left. And uh it's just very short. But you

785
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Speaker 1: know what, Um, I've been hit out for James, you know,

786
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Speaker 1: Jordan James, and I was watch short or something. It's

787
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Speaker 1: all good. I'm gonna say, why, Oh it's my this

788
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Speaker 1: is this is why I do it. I love it.

789
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Speaker 1: I mean, if you don't love it doing it for

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Speaker 1: thirty one years and something wrong, you're just doing it.

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Speaker 1: I do it because, um my heart shaid. I love kids. Um.

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Speaker 1: I have two daughters, which I loved yearling. I wish

793
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Speaker 1: they played football. Now I'm sinning, um, but no, I

794
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 1: just love playing with kids. I really do. I've always have.

795
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: I've always wanted to have my own football camp and

796
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: now I haven't. Um. I hope I'm around for you know,

797
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: chilling the kitchens, innermosing, so it's fun. You'll you'll see

798
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Speaker 1: me have fun. That's awesome. I mean I looked at

799
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Speaker 1: I want some of the coaches are now some of

800
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,399
Speaker 1: the champions are now my coaches, which is pretty cool. Um.

801
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Speaker 1: And there's a number that went on to play in

802
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Speaker 1: the NFL. UM. And the thing about champ now is

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Speaker 1: we're gonna ge just from Buffalore. They're you know, Pennsylvania, Ohio, California,

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Speaker 1: your mesic cooe um juniam at daytime because what helps who?

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Speaker 1: It's all that his ninaver falls, that the parents will come,

806
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Speaker 1: the cheaper kids of your washing could play, have fun

807
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Speaker 1: and go niner falls and go through some sites. So um,

808
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 1: it's beautiful the summersime. So I love it and hopefully

809
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Speaker 1: that's will continue to go around. I didn't morning anything,

810
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Speaker 1: is uh, And I told you I was just talking

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Speaker 1: to the Jews down there that um a couple full

812
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Speaker 1: Number one is how life is now a day. It's

813
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Speaker 1: just uh, totally different than when we grew up. Some

814
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Speaker 1: of you guys, I know you are, some of you

815
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Speaker 1: younger going through it now. But the way so for

816
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 1: me is now how you've really watched what you do,

817
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Speaker 1: watch what you say, and really be proud of your name.

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Speaker 1: I remember when I'm left my home when the first

819
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Speaker 1: thing my dad always said me, son, we probably weren't

820
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 1: came from We probably of your name. And when I

821
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Speaker 1: told you, I practiced a long time ago with my

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Speaker 1: autograft because my dad said, make sure kids can read it.

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Speaker 1: So I've always saved out in the heart that my

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Speaker 1: autograft is something that little boys to read when they're

825
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Speaker 1: proud of it. So um and also it's the were

826
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Speaker 1: you the fundamentals of football is just you prepare your

827
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Speaker 1: long for football. But for all the supports two and

828
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Speaker 1: a good football position and having fun making new friends.

829
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Speaker 1: There's so many teams. Would they learning here's the champion?

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Speaker 1: They leave it. I know it. I know that I

831
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Speaker 1: preach here when I know the outcome because I hear

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Speaker 1: it back from parents. When we hear parents coming back

833
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Speaker 1: and you're telling you, does it should learn this to

834
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Speaker 1: learn to stay thank you? And you know Nolla takes

835
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: it up in the morning, they do their exercise, they

836
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Speaker 1: take the garbage side, they do things like wow, they

837
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Speaker 1: ruined listen, so you hope they do. They take from

838
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Speaker 1: here what they've learned and take them home and to

839
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Speaker 1: school with the stream here. It kind of has a

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Speaker 1: ten sense of all say they ever do it every year.

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Speaker 1: Um football chap, I love it. Um. Health Wise, Um,

842
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Speaker 1: I'm ready to solve that. I'm ready good healthy. I've

843
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: got a lot of things on my play that I

844
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 1: wanted to do and I can't do me when I

845
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Speaker 1: mean the sum but only working because George yours is

846
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Speaker 1: the only one that knows what the outcomes will be

847
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Speaker 1: for what I'm about to do, what I'm about to

848
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Speaker 1: go through. I shall have a few more surgeons left,

849
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Speaker 1: and UM take one day at a time, Um August,

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Speaker 1: and then another one in September. Um did tell you,

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Speaker 1: but as you well, we might have to do this.

852
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: So it is what it is. I'm gonna just see

853
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,439
Speaker 1: one and UM hopefully I'm gonna be able to smile,

854
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: y'all guys, and I'm gonna have chee and I'll be

855
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: able to stop this and understand me as I'll tell

856
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: you why it is this old. I want. I want

857
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: to be feeling good as then, And UM, I know

858
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:50,399
Speaker 1: it's just a maritime Oh. I love it smiling, trying

859
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 1: to smile when somebody's out washing me with camera. But

860
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: we'll see them, don't know. In just a kids, your parents,

861
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 1: parents will come up through out for prop it's not

862
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: for tremp. Tell me home for real kid that fund

863
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 1: today said, and we might have more fun than natives.

864
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: So just what's the one is here? You want to

865
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 1: hear and you want to have them to tie to

866
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 1: come back to year after year, and they do. That's

867
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: why I have almost shift hundred kids this year. So

868
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 1: we're doing something right and we hope to continue to

869
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: do that. So she makes better young things at this kid.

870
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 1: So let's go up to these you know, tod adults.

871
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: Since nineteen eighty seven, Jim has been doing this football

872
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: camp and continues now in its thirty first year. And

873
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 1: you know, Jim, as we said, less than a week

874
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: removed from follow up surgery, and he's out there not

875
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: only addressing the media, which is hard enough when you

876
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: consider the fact that he's got the equivalent of a

877
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: hockey puck for a roof of his mouth, but out

878
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: there participating with the kids and throwing footballs as the

879
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 1: quarterback in some flag games. Just amazing that it meets.

880
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: You tell it, you can tell just by listening to

881
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 1: him and by seeing him out there. I mean I

882
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: was talking to our producer Jay Harris before we came

883
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 1: on to He's like Jim's out here yelling at kids

884
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: to hustle and move and you know, proper techniques and

885
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: running around the right way. I mean, he doesn't stop.

886
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 1: So there are there are causes that are very near

887
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: and dear to Jim, and I would say the only

888
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: things that trump his football camp, and you know, teaching

889
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: kids the game and also teaching them how to be

890
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: good citizens is probably you know, his Kelly for kids

891
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: and his charitable causes, universal newborn screening, LUCA dystrophies, you know,

892
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 1: Hunter's hope. These are things that are at the top

893
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: of the priority list. But this football camp is not

894
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: far behind. And I think seeing him out there participating

895
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: less than a week removed from follow up surgery, the

896
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:47,399
Speaker 1: guys still waiting to get dental implants for gosh sakes,

897
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 1: he doesn't even have an upper row of teeth right now,

898
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: and he's out here playing football with these kids, I

899
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: think it just speaks to what this camp. He's proud of,

900
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 1: what this camp represents, I think for his legacy, and

901
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 1: a lot of these kids never even saw Jim Kelly play.

902
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: I mean, this is the thirty first year of the camp.

903
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 1: He's been retired for twenty something years, so you know,

904
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: to see him out there and to see these kids responding,

905
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: I mean, they're having fun and he's having fun, maybe

906
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: more than them, as he said, So really good to

907
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: see Jim out there, up and around. He's not one

908
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: hundred percent, he doesn't feel all that great, but I

909
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: think going out there and throwing the ball around with

910
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: these kids makes him feel just a little bit better.

911
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 1: So good for Jim. Thirty first year of the Jim

912
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: Kelly Camp taking place here this week at One Bill's Drive.

913
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: We got a lot of show here to go, and

914
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break now, but when we come back,

915
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 1: we're talking Lashawn McCoy's Hall of Fame credentials. There's an

916
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 1: interesting comment on the tweet sheet as they not only

917
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: talk about Lashawn as a Hall of Famer, what about

918
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 1: A Bill's Wall of Famer. He's only got three seasons

919
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 1: in A Bill's uniform. Twenty eighteen will be his fourth.

920
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: How much more does he have to do in A

921
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: Bill's uniform to get there? We'll expand the conversation when

922
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 1: we come back. It's Chris Brown with you until three

923
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: pm here on One Bill's Live. From One Bill's Hive.

924
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio back here on One Bills

925
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: Live Chris Brown with you eighth three five fifty one,

926
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: eight five fifty two, five fifty as we discuss Lashawn

927
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: McCoy's Hall of Fame credentials as they currently sit today,

928
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,879
Speaker 1: just over ten thousand rushing yards in his career over

929
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 1: the course of nine seasons, entering his tenth season here

930
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:44,240
Speaker 1: in the NFL with the Bills. Fourth season with the Bills.

931
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 1: And we got an interesting comment on the tweet sheet

932
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: from Wandering Jack because our Twitter poll today is what

933
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 1: is Leshawn McCoy's Hall of Fame potential as as his

934
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: career currently sits. His body of work today just over

935
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: ten thousand rushing yards, led the league in rushing once,

936
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 1: has six Pro Bowls on his resume to ap first

937
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: Team All Pro nods as well. Is it enough to

938
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: get him in the Hall of Fame right now? So

939
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 1: you can give us your answer to that based on

940
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: the Twitter poll choices that we have A. He needs

941
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: twelve thousand rushing yards to get in. B He's a

942
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 1: fifty fifty shot right now. See he needs a Super

943
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 1: Bowl win or D He'll get in now, just not

944
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 1: on the first ballot. And it's pretty split, and it

945
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: has been all day between needing twelve thousand rushing yards

946
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 1: and he's good to go. He just won't go in

947
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 1: on the first ballot. So feel free to chime in

948
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 1: on that. We got the tweet sheet and from Wandering

949
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 1: Jackie says, Shady's one of the great running backs ever.

950
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: If he hits twelve thousand or wins a Super Bowl,

951
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: he's first ballot, no question. If he doesn't get to

952
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 1: twelve k, he will still get in based on his

953
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: stats and highlights. He may just have to wait a

954
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: few years. Better question is is he a Bill's Wall

955
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: of Famer? I think he should be. Stats are great

956
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: and highlights are as well. But I can tell you

957
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame selectors, when they're looking at a

958
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 1: running back, they do compare him to the players he

959
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: played with in his generation, the other running backs in

960
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 1: the league. And when you look at the span of

961
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 1: his career from two thousand and nine to twenty seventeen,

962
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,479
Speaker 1: he's going to get compared to a guy like Frank Gore,

963
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 1: who right now is still playing. He's going to be

964
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 1: dressing for Miami this year. He's got thirteen years in

965
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 1: the league and fourteen thousand rushing yards, and he played

966
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: it essentially the same time as Shady's certainly a different

967
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: running back. He's going to get compared to Adrian Peterson,

968
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 1: another guy who's got over twelve thousand career rushing yards.

969
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 1: He might even get compared to a guy that was

970
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 1: just getting out of the league when Lashawn was getting in.

971
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:03,879
Speaker 1: You know, somebody like Edgar and James, a guy who

972
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 1: was a finalist for the Pro Football Hall of Fame

973
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 1: two of the last three years and did not get

974
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 1: in and has twelve thousand, two hundred forty six career

975
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 1: rushing yards. So I see why a lot of people

976
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 1: on the Twitter poll are saying, now he might get in,

977
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 1: but not on the first ballot. Most people don't think

978
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: he's a fifty fifty shot as his career currently stands.

979
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 1: But I think a lot of people are of the

980
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: belief that he does have to get twelve thousand, and

981
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: I think LaShaun would count himself in that group. I

982
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 1: think that's why twelve thousand rushing yards is a goal,

983
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 1: in part because I think it'll help his case for

984
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Enshrineman you could tell us what you think.

985
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 1: At eight oh three, five fifty one, eight to eight,

986
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: five fifty two, five fifty we have to step aside.

987
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 1: But coming up at one o'clock is Ike Greece, former

988
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 1: NFL linebacker for the Philadelphia Eagles, currently an analyst on

989
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Sports Radio for the Philadelphia Eagles. He's going to

990
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: kind of lend us his thoughts on the Philadelphia portion

991
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 1: of Lashawn McCoy's career and how that helps his Hall

992
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 1: of Fame consideration. We'll talk to him on the other

993
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: side of the break. First hour down, two to go.

994
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: Chris Brown with you until three pm here on One

995
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:29,479
Speaker 1: Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Hello,

996
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: Bill's Radio Network. Sports Update, Your sports update from One

997
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,399
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. The Sabers introduced their top pick from last

998
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,359
Speaker 1: weekend's draft is Ross Musdalen met the Western New York

999
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: media this morning at Key Bank Center. Dolene will wear

1000
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: number twenty six as he begins his NHL career. NFL

1001
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:51,720
Speaker 1: News New England Patriots wide receiver Julian Edelman's appeal hearing

1002
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 1: for his performance in hancing substances suspension is scheduled for today. ESPN,

1003
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 1: which first reported Edelman's hearing date, says the thirty two

1004
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 1: year old has obtained outside council to assist him in

1005
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: his appeal. Edelman was suspended four games by the league

1006
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 1: earlier this month. It looks like Jameis Winston's three game

1007
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 1: league suspension for twenty eighteen does not mean that Ryan

1008
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:19,240
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick will automatically start this fall for Tampa Bay. Reports

1009
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 1: out of Tampa indicate that last year's third string QB

1010
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: Ryan Griffin has a chance to win the starting job

1011
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: and move past Fitzpatrick on the depth chart. Griffin, a

1012
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 1: former undrafted rookie, has never attempted a regular season pass

1013
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: in his career. At the World Cup today in Russia,

1014
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia beat Egypt two one, but neither team will

1015
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,879
Speaker 1: advance to the knockout round. Uruguay beat Russia three nil

1016
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: to pass Russia in the standings and win their group.

1017
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,359
Speaker 1: As they advance, both teams advance to the knockout round.

1018
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:53,240
Speaker 1: At two pm today, Lauran takes on Portugal and Spain

1019
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 1: will face Morocco. The Yankees look like they'll be without

1020
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,959
Speaker 1: catcher Gary Sanchez for a bit. Sanchez sustained a growing

1021
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,280
Speaker 1: injury over the weekend in the series with the Rays

1022
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: and is expected to be placed on the disabled list

1023
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 1: today and the Bison's open a four game series with

1024
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 1: Pawtucket tonight. First pitch at Coca Cola Field is at

1025
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 1: seven o five. That is your sports update from One

1026
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. Chris Brown with you here on One Bills

1027
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: Live as we are talking about the Hall of Fame

1028
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: credentials of one Lashawn McCoy. We all know he just

1029
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 1: went over the ten thousand yard rushing mark last season.

1030
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,720
Speaker 1: He wants to get to twelve thousand rushing yards, probably

1031
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 1: with the idea in mind that if he gets there,

1032
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: he almost secures himself as a Locke to be a

1033
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Famer. But he's only spent the

1034
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: last three seasons in Buffalo. To shed a little bit

1035
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: more light on the Philadelphia portion of his career, the

1036
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:49,240
Speaker 1: first six seasons spent with the Eagles, is former Eagles

1037
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:53,399
Speaker 1: linebacker Ike Reese, who also works in Philadelphia sports radio

1038
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,439
Speaker 1: and analyst for Eagles football. Ike, thanks for joining us today.

1039
00:52:56,480 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, chirst Thanks for having I'm doing good.

1040
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 1: You are a really close friend of Takio spikes, are

1041
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 1: you not? Yeah, yeah, I mean I when Takio was here,

1042
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: and you know I was covering the team here, I

1043
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 1: knew we used to always talk about catching up with

1044
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: you during a bye week or something, so I just

1045
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 1: wanted to make sure I had that connection right because

1046
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: Taquio used to always have stories about you and him

1047
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: doing stuff off the field and not only charitable, but

1048
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 1: having yourselves a little bit of fun too. Well, you

1049
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 1: may have me mixed up with a different line doctor.

1050
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 1: Kio and I are certainly draftmates, and we're certainly flady

1051
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 1: with each other, but that sounds like Carlos Emmon. Oh, yes,

1052
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 1: another Eagles linebacker. You're right. See I knew, I knew

1053
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 1: I wasn't one hundred percent right, but he had mentioned

1054
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,879
Speaker 1: you before, So all right, cool enough. But yeah, let's

1055
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: let's jump into this Lashan situation here, because you know,

1056
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 1: he's over ten thousand now, and you know, if you

1057
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:55,800
Speaker 1: look at the Hall of Fame list of running backs

1058
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: or best running backs of all time in terms of

1059
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 1: rushing yards, you know, obviously see the guys at the

1060
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 1: top of the list are going to go into the

1061
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, and it looks like twelve thousand career

1062
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:11,760
Speaker 1: rushing yards is a strict dividing line. It's not completely uniform,

1063
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 1: but if you get over twelve, you've got a pretty

1064
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 1: good chance of punching your ticket. But why don't you

1065
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 1: just spell out the first six seasons of what Lashawn

1066
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: did there in an Eagle's uniform and how you think

1067
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: that best helps his kicks? Well, I think the fact

1068
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,800
Speaker 1: that you're talking about in a six year span he

1069
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: became the franchises all the time leading rusher. And some

1070
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 1: pretty good tailbacks that have played for the Eagles, none

1071
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 1: necessarily in the Hall of Fame, but nonetheless, some pretty

1072
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: good running backs in the history of the game have

1073
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: come through Philadelphia. And for Shady to be the all

1074
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: time leading rusher in this franchise's history, that is certainly

1075
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 1: something to be proud of and to hold in high regard.

1076
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: And then when I look at just in the time

1077
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 1: year he played with some pretty good players and pretty

1078
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 1: good Pro Bowl players on either side of the football. Um,

1079
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: and I would say of his six years here, um,

1080
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 1: no less than four of those years, and you probably

1081
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 1: can make an argument for five of those years he

1082
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 1: was arguably the best player on the team. Uh, he

1083
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: was the team's number one player. He certainly was, uh

1084
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 1: the focal point of the offense, and uh the offense

1085
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 1: certainly revolved around him. And as he went, uh, the

1086
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 1: offense went. And when you just look at his numbers

1087
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: compared to the other great backs uh during that time,

1088
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure they're very comparable, if not better then

1089
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 1: then some of those guys that you would traject to

1090
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 1: be on the path to bend in the Hall of Fame.

1091
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 1: And you know, when you look at Shady, you got

1092
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:49,280
Speaker 1: to look at him beyond just the raw rushing numbers

1093
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 1: of what he does. It's the style of running at

1094
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 1: which he he possesses and that he has. It's it's

1095
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 1: it's a rare talent that you just didn't see on

1096
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:01,919
Speaker 1: a year in your faces in the NFL. You're talking

1097
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 1: about across between a guy like Barry Standers and Marshall

1098
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: Falk when you just talk about the elusiveness, the the

1099
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 1: way that he ran the football, the big play ability,

1100
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 1: uh that he had, and then the fact that he

1101
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 1: was also a thread out of the fact field catching

1102
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,919
Speaker 1: the ball. Um truly in a in an era where

1103
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 1: uh the game was really revolved around passing, I would say,

1104
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 1: the last decade decade and a half, and it's rare

1105
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 1: that you can build a team around a running back.

1106
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:36,240
Speaker 1: You don't have those quote unquote franchise running backs us

1107
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 1: as frequently as you used to have, and Shady is

1108
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 1: one of those rare franchise running backs and you can

1109
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 1: build your team, your offense around what he does with

1110
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 1: him being the centerpiece. So, um, I just think I

1111
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,320
Speaker 1: think the world of the guy. I wish he was

1112
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 1: still in Midnight Green as opposed to being up there

1113
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:58,879
Speaker 1: and in Buffalo, but he had seemed to have made

1114
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: that situation work out very well. And I'm not surprised

1115
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 1: that he's had the type of success he's had in

1116
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 1: the three years that he's been up there. He is

1117
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 1: truly one of the games's best talent. And then you

1118
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: just look at the fact that he's been able to

1119
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:15,479
Speaker 1: sustain this level of play at a position that really

1120
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: you give about a four or five window, four or

1121
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 1: five year window to be great at he's been able

1122
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 1: to expand that thing to about six or seven years.

1123
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: He's been in with five straight Pro Bowls, coming off

1124
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 1: another good year, and doesn't look like he's slowing down

1125
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 1: anytime soon. So twelve thousand. I think if he stays healthy,

1126
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 1: that's a no brainer. This guy has the ability because

1127
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 1: he came in the league so young. He can play

1128
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 1: three year, three more years. If he can play three

1129
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 1: more years, I think it's a no brainer. I already

1130
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 1: think he's on his way for the Hall of Fame.

1131
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 1: He just needs to stay healthy the remainder of his career.

1132
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 1: Right and you know, you look at and you mentioned,

1133
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 1: you know, his style as a runner. Obviously he's gonna

1134
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 1: get compared to a lot of his peers who played

1135
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 1: at the same time as him. You know, we're talking

1136
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 1: about people like Frank Gore who has fourteen thousand yards,

1137
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson who has over twelve thousand yards, And whether

1138
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 1: he plays this year or not, we'll see. You know,

1139
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 1: these are two pretty intimidating names on a list of

1140
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 1: career all time rushers who are already in the top twelve.

1141
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: You know, Leshaun right now sits at twenty ninth. Obviously

1142
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 1: he can leap frog a lot of the names ahead

1143
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 1: of him with another productive two or three seasons, as

1144
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 1: you kind of outlined. So so talk to me about this,

1145
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 1: because you mentioned his style as a runner, how much

1146
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 1: does unique uniqueness of play impact Hall of Fame selectors,

1147
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 1: at least as you know them. It should. When you're

1148
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: a rare talent and you've been able to be at

1149
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 1: an elite level, I think that should be recognized. I mean,

1150
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 1: that's the great thing about this game is that you know,

1151
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 1: everybody to play in the NFL at leads to a

1152
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 1: point where they can say they had a career. They

1153
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 1: certainly had talent. So there's a lot of talented players

1154
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 1: that have come through the league. But when you could

1155
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 1: sort of bottle up with a guy like Shady McCoy,

1156
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 1: his running style, the electrifying ability he had to take

1157
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 1: a player to look like it should be a two

1158
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 1: or three yard lost and turned into a twenty thirty

1159
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 1: yard game, fifty yard touchdown. I mean that's something to

1160
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,919
Speaker 1: be celebrated. I mean, that's what you want. You want

1161
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 1: when people look back on this game twenty thirty years

1162
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 1: down the road, they want you want that you want

1163
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 1: the game and be represented by such a first little

1164
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 1: style of play. To have a guy with that unique ability,

1165
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 1: it's rare, and it's rare to we compare anybody to

1166
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 1: Ferry Sanders, but that's the first name. It comes out

1167
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 1: of most people's mouths when they're talking about Shady McCoy

1168
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 1: and his style of running. We've never really seen anything

1169
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 1: like Farry Sanders when he played, and Shady to me

1170
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 1: at his running style is the close this thing to

1171
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 1: the greatest running back of all time in my opinion,

1172
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 1: in Barry Standers. So, uh, I certainly I make that

1173
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 1: trip you can't know, Ohio to visit to see all

1174
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 1: those great players. I would love to see, uh that

1175
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 1: that that running style represented in that hall. So I think, honestly,

1176
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 1: I really do Chris think that. I just think if

1177
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 1: they can stay healthy the next two years, it's a

1178
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 1: no brainer in my opinion. I just think, I just

1179
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 1: think he's in there. Just because you also got to

1180
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 1: look at an era right when why you brought up

1181
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson and Frank Gore. I haven't even looked at

1182
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 1: the numbers, but I can only imagine their amount of

1183
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 1: carries compared to the Shady's amount of carries, Like like

1184
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 1: they got dead the ball twenty plus times a football game.

1185
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 1: You know, Shady is a guy. You give him fifteen

1186
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 1: to eighteen carries, he still can't get you for a

1187
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 1: buck thirty buck for it because he's so explosive. He's

1188
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 1: averaging close to five yards or better per carry throughout

1189
01:00:58,120 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 1: his career. So that just lets you know the sixty

1190
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 1: ability that's there, a home run ability, and I think

1191
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 1: that there's something to be said about that as well.

1192
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 1: It's one thing to compound numbers over a bunch of carries.

1193
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 1: It's another thing to to beat that explosive run at

1194
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 1: that home run hit or that that can take it

1195
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 1: to the house on any given play. And that's where

1196
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 1: Shady is right, and that's where Frank Gore isn't um

1197
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 1: because Frank, you know, he's got over thirty two hundred

1198
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 1: rushes in his career. Shady has twenty one hundred and

1199
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 1: eighty five. Ye Peterson, I would say is is probably

1200
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 1: a little bit ahead of McCoy because yes, he's had

1201
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 1: more career rushes over twenty five hundred, but he's averaged

1202
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 1: four point seven seven, you know, over his career. Shady's

1203
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 1: at four to six two for his career. And Peterson,

1204
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 1: as we know, is just ridiculous. I mean, he's a freak.

1205
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 1: He's six foot three, two hundred and thirty pounds and

1206
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 1: he runs faster than LaShaun in the forty. Yeah. Yeah,

1207
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 1: that's just that's just rarity at its finest. Um, I

1208
01:01:56,320 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 1: want the whole of tamer two. Yeah yeah already right, Um,

1209
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, here's here's what I wanted you to kind

1210
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 1: of paint a picture for Bills fans, because obviously they've

1211
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 1: seen the last three seasons up close and personal of

1212
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 1: la Shawn and they've come to respect his game, maybe

1213
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 1: a whole lot more than they did when he was

1214
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia. So maybe just outlined for the Bills fan

1215
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 1: that didn't see the first part of his career up

1216
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 1: close and personal. For example, like his two thousand and

1217
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 1: eleven season when he leads the league in rushing touchdowns,

1218
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 1: When what was that like the wake up call for

1219
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 1: Eagles fans, like we really have something special here or

1220
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 1: did they recognize it even before that? Well for most

1221
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 1: of us, I mean, obviously he's a pah kid. He

1222
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 1: played a pit right, so he's following him a little

1223
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 1: bit out of college, and um, once they drafted him

1224
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 1: and you watched his highlights, we knew we had something special.

1225
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 1: We just did. And and me being a college football

1226
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 1: fan as well, I saw him in college. A matter

1227
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 1: of fact, I'm a Michigan State alum, and he came

1228
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 1: to East Landing and there wasn't even a contest with

1229
01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 1: him out there against Michigan State, so I got to

1230
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 1: see it and feel that pain of him from a

1231
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 1: collegiate level. We we we we we sort of knew it.

1232
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 1: And he was kind of biden the time because he

1233
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 1: played with Brian Westbrook for a year or so, and

1234
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 1: obviously Westbrook has revered as one of the greatest running

1235
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 1: backs to play here. But once it became Shady's sort

1236
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 1: of all fans and they were going to give him

1237
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 1: the football. You put him with Michael vick and and

1238
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 1: Deshan Jackson, it was just difficult to stop that offense.

1239
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 1: And Andy just gave him the ball, and that was

1240
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 1: really his breakout year. That's just that's when Shady sort

1241
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 1: of knew. He had lost a few pounds at this

1242
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 1: first couple of years, so he had got a lot quicker,

1243
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 1: and I think that's when Shady knew that he was

1244
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 1: doing one of the best running backs in the game.

1245
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 1: And we certainly saw it on the field. I mean,

1246
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 1: his year in the chip Kelly wasn't too shabby either

1247
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 1: in two thousand and thirteen, so Uh, yeah, we got

1248
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 1: the same featured and uh out there again. When I

1249
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 1: think about the uh the last five to ten years

1250
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 1: and things that the Eagles did and things that you regretted,

1251
01:03:57,880 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 1: would have you players that have left, that have come

1252
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 1: and go. That's the one player right there that we

1253
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 1: all still wish was a midnight dream. That's the one

1254
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 1: player that even with the super Bowl, you guys are

1255
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 1: still sore about that. Yeah, even with that. Wow, all right, listen,

1256
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 1: the super Bowl makes us still a lot better. Don't

1257
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 1: get me wrong. I didn't trade him for the super Bowl,

1258
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 1: but that that's the kid that should never want another jersey. Man,

1259
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 1: he's just just I feel I'm sorry, I'm in Buffalo

1260
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 1: radio station saying it, but that's just how much we

1261
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 1: loved him down here with me, right, So talk to

1262
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 1: me about that two thirteen season. I think he led

1263
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 1: the league in yards from scrimmage. He's got over sixteen

1264
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 1: hundred on the ground. I mean that that's his best year, right,

1265
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 1: I mean that Trump's two eleven. Yeah, it really was.

1266
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 1: That's that's when we got to see this poor Arsenal

1267
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 1: on display. And now I think in Chip's offense that

1268
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 1: first year because it was so new to the league,

1269
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 1: teams were having a difficult time figuring out how do

1270
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:00,280
Speaker 1: you slow the offense down? And again I go back

1271
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 1: to having to Sean Jackson on the outside. That was

1272
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 1: a year Nick Foles played out of his mind with

1273
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 1: twenty seven touchdown past and two interceptions. You know, Shady,

1274
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 1: We're really not that he needed it, but he just

1275
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 1: benefited so much from a well rounded offense. They were

1276
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 1: just difficult to stop, and Shady really played at the

1277
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 1: MVP level that year. Had it not been, I believe

1278
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 1: for the I guess the newness of Chip Kelly being

1279
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 1: in the NFL and then the year that Chip Kelly

1280
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 1: was having, Shady probably would have received a lot more

1281
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 1: recognition as far as being U an MVP candidate that

1282
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 1: year because he was arguably the best running back in

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01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 1: football that year. We're talking to Ike Greece on the

1284
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 1: subway fresh Jake Hotline, former NFL linebacker for the Eagles

1285
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 1: and the Falcons, current radio host at w IP in Philly,

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01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:52,440
Speaker 1: and h he's got a Pro Bowl to his credit

1287
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 1: as well, back in two thousand and four. But like

1288
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 1: you know, you look at where he sits among those

1289
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 1: in contention at running back for Hall of Fame in Shriman.

1290
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna you already heard me mentioned Gore, I

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01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 1: mentioned Peterson. You've got guys that are waiting, hoping, Edgar

1292
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 1: and James, Fred Taylor, Stephen Jackson, Corey Dillon, Warreck Dunne,

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01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:17,560
Speaker 1: Ricky Waters. I mean, these are all guys in that

1294
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 1: same range. You know, nobody really in that list has

1295
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 1: a super Bowl on their resume. Neither does Lashawn as

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01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 1: we know where where does a super Bowl tie? I

1297
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 1: mean super Bowl title seemed to factor in heavily for quarterbacks.

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01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 1: What about running backs? I mean does that really matter

1299
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 1: or is it really those personal numbers that seemed to

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01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:42,959
Speaker 1: carry all the weight. I think it helped. It helped

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01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 1: in the case like Toil Davis obviously, right. You know

1302
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 1: he won back to back Super Bowl with the league

1303
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:51,439
Speaker 1: MVP Rustaurant for two thousand yards. We really had five

1304
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 1: good years fob or six good years before his career

1305
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 1: was cut short because of injuries. And they took that

1306
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 1: into account. And he's one of those cases because he

1307
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 1: didn't have the longevity, they looked at his impact and

1308
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 1: they put him in there. I think it means something,

1309
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 1: but I don't think it's one of those things that

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01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:10,440
Speaker 1: keeps you out of the Hall of Fame. I think

1311
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 1: from a running back position, I think you can be

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01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 1: you can be judged solely on your your ability to

1313
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:23,240
Speaker 1: sustain a high level of play, your availability. How many

1314
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 1: years were you ranked up there? You don't necessarily at

1315
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 1: if be the first back every year in the league,

1316
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 1: but were you in that group of three or four

1317
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 1: or five backs considered every year as one of his

1318
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 1: top facts? And I think Shady has that arguments. He

1319
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 1: has u been a time when he was in his career,

1320
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 1: other than maybe his first year or two before he

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01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 1: really became Shady, that he wasn't one of the five

1322
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 1: best running back in the game. I don't think there

1323
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 1: has been. He still needs, in my opinion, one of

1324
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 1: the five best running backs in the game, and so

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01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:56,400
Speaker 1: I believe he's done enough. I just think maybe if

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01:07:56,440 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 1: you want to tack on some more stat to sort

1327
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 1: of solidify it, I think he has a pretty good argument.

1328
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 1: I think he has a better argument than of Corey

1329
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 1: Dillon who has the rank. I think he has a

1330
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 1: better argument than a I forgot which other fact you've

1331
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:13,959
Speaker 1: made war done? Who was my former teammate I played

1332
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 1: with in Atlanta. He had a better argument to the

1333
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 1: war about Dre and James. He's probably right there with

1334
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 1: Edri and James. I don't have Edre and James numbers,

1335
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 1: and I got him. I got him here for you.

1336
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 1: So Edri and James eleven seasons, twelve thousand, two hundred

1337
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 1: and forty six yards and he's got eighty touchdowns to

1338
01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:34,519
Speaker 1: his credit, won a lot of games in Indianapolis, as

1339
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 1: you know. And he's been a finalist two of the

1340
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:43,280
Speaker 1: last three years and he hasn't gotten in. Now. I

1341
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:45,320
Speaker 1: know this class was a tough class to get in.

1342
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 1: I mean we're talking ray Lewis, Terrell Owens. I mean,

1343
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 1: there's some big names going in this year. So you

1344
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 1: could see why he might be left on the outside

1345
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 1: looking in this year. But two of the last three

1346
01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:59,640
Speaker 1: years of finalist can't get to that last cut. He

1347
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 1: gets cut in the cutdown from fifteen to ten. And

1348
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:07,599
Speaker 1: here's a guy with twelve k you know on his resume. Yeah,

1349
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 1: it's it's difficult, it is. I think Edgerin is right

1350
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:14,200
Speaker 1: there now. He may be curtinalized a little bit because

1351
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:17,519
Speaker 1: he played with Peyton Manning and Marvin Harrison. I don't

1352
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 1: think Shady has that sort of going against him. I

1353
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:23,920
Speaker 1: think Shady, like I mentioned earlier, has really been the

1354
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 1: best player. And when you look at the offenses that

1355
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 1: he's been on, oh, I don't know if there's ever

1356
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 1: been the time he hasn't been the best player on

1357
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:32,680
Speaker 1: his offense. So what that says to me is that

1358
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 1: the offenses off the defenses are always geared to stop you,

1359
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 1: you know, so that that makes a difference in my

1360
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:43,719
Speaker 1: opinion of Bolder. Yeah, I think that makes a difference.

1361
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:47,120
Speaker 1: Is to me for a guy who's always been it's

1362
01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 1: like Walter Payton, right when Walter Payton played, Now you're

1363
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 1: talking about my guys. Now you're talking about my guy. Yeah.

1364
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 1: And and and Sweden's hid for years without much help

1365
01:09:57,439 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the ball. It was able

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01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 1: to put up the type of numbers that he did

1367
01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 1: that he did. Barry Standers as well didn't have a

1368
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 1: lot of help on offs man, true, but Steel was

1369
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 1: able to do what he did. And Ms Smith, in

1370
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 1: my opinion, the reason why he's not considered the greatest

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01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:12,680
Speaker 1: of all times because of the help that he had

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01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 1: around him, and so his job was made a lot easier,

1373
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:17,599
Speaker 1: even though he has all the numbers in the ring, right,

1374
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:20,280
Speaker 1: So I think, to me, Shady falls in that category

1375
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 1: of you gotta you can't just look at his numbers.

1376
01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:26,360
Speaker 1: What he's done has been impressive because he hasn't had

1377
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:28,519
Speaker 1: a ton of help around him. He hasn't had a

1378
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:31,559
Speaker 1: lot of people that made get jobs easier. He's made

1379
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:35,680
Speaker 1: other people's job yea, whereas it's not the opposite way,

1380
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:37,720
Speaker 1: certainly all that that would be the case for me,

1381
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:40,480
Speaker 1: for him, yeah, certainly a good point. We're talking to Ikereas,

1382
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 1: former Eagles linebacker on the Subway Fresh Take Hotline radio

1383
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 1: host on WIP and Philadelphia, kind of shedding some light

1384
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 1: on Shady's credentials for the Hall of Fame and the

1385
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:53,720
Speaker 1: six year career he had in Philadelphia. Last one I

1386
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 1: got for you just because I get the sense that

1387
01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 1: you're you're pretty good with the history of this league.

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01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 1: He's only spent three seasons in Buffalo. We know he's

1389
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 1: not gonna catch Thurman Thomas for the all time rushing lead,

1390
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 1: probably won't even catch oj Simpson, but he's got a

1391
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 1: chance to move high up the list for the Bills.

1392
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 1: He only needs eleven hundred more yards to go from

1393
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:20,760
Speaker 1: twelfth to fourth behind a hand, you know, behind just

1394
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:23,760
Speaker 1: a couple of guys, including Thomas and OJ. You know,

1395
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 1: we have we have the Wall of Fame here, they

1396
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:28,040
Speaker 1: have the Ring of Honor for a lot of other teams.

1397
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 1: If he finishes his career in Buffalo with let's just

1398
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 1: say five maybe six seasons, this is season four coming

1399
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 1: up now, six seasons, and he finishes third all time

1400
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 1: in Bill's history, behind Thurman, Thomas, and O. J. Simpson.

1401
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:44,799
Speaker 1: You're putting him on the Wall of Fame here in Buffalo,

1402
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:53,720
Speaker 1: are you not? Oh? Wow, that's a tough one. Um.

1403
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:57,759
Speaker 1: I'll say this out of respect for the great history

1404
01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:01,200
Speaker 1: of that organization. Don't really think it's there for me

1405
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 1: to say who deserves to go up on the wall

1406
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:06,639
Speaker 1: of Fame? I really don't. Um, where do you say?

1407
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 1: Where do you think he is like? Then? In comparison

1408
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 1: to Thurman and OJ. Total career, oh, just total career.

1409
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:16,680
Speaker 1: Give me total career, and how he might stack up

1410
01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 1: with the other Bills three running backs? Who Thurman career? Now? Yeah,

1411
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 1: total career, he's right there with him. Okay, total career now,

1412
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:27,600
Speaker 1: O day, Oh DA's a difference to me? That's a

1413
01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:30,720
Speaker 1: different level. You know. I got to see Thurman's career

1414
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 1: because I grew up during that time, and I grew

1415
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:36,240
Speaker 1: up a Dolphins man son. Thurman broke my heart as

1416
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 1: a kid growing up. But OJA, it's so revered on

1417
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:44,160
Speaker 1: the football field. I just got him at a different

1418
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 1: level as a football player. But I could see where

1419
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 1: Thurman and Shady would be right there. If you just

1420
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:54,120
Speaker 1: took Shady's career combined Philadelphia and and Buffalo, if he

1421
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:56,559
Speaker 1: does what you're expecting to do over the next two

1422
01:12:56,680 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 1: or three years there, I could see them at as

1423
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:03,560
Speaker 1: on an equal level, on an equal level with the

1424
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:06,320
Speaker 1: Eagles career combined. I don't know if that's enough to

1425
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:08,080
Speaker 1: get him on the field wall the same. I tell

1426
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:10,800
Speaker 1: you what, though, Chris, if he gets you guys into

1427
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:14,280
Speaker 1: the postseason and he has some postseason moment, I think

1428
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:16,559
Speaker 1: it'd be difficult to keep him off there, right, Yeah,

1429
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 1: I think so. I think if he gets five or

1430
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:22,680
Speaker 1: six years in here and they're all as productive as

1431
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:25,519
Speaker 1: the first three have been, I don't think anybody in

1432
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:27,439
Speaker 1: this town would have a problem putting his name up

1433
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:30,800
Speaker 1: there at all. I don't know if I don't know

1434
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:34,599
Speaker 1: if anybody's ready to say he's Thurman, because that's about

1435
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:37,160
Speaker 1: as respected as you get in this town from a

1436
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 1: football perspective. And Thurman just barely got over twelve thousand.

1437
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 1: I think he's twelve thousand and seventy four, and he

1438
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 1: did not get in on the first ballot. He's a

1439
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:49,200
Speaker 1: second ballot guy, and he's got four AFC titles to

1440
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:52,840
Speaker 1: his name and the NFL MVP in nineteen ninety one.

1441
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 1: You know what it is with with that position, It's

1442
01:13:56,760 --> 01:14:00,560
Speaker 1: it's such a backlog that you almost have to you

1443
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:02,560
Speaker 1: just got to throw out the whole whether or not

1444
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 1: your first pallot the second pallet, you just may have

1445
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 1: to prepare to wait for a few years at that position,

1446
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 1: because if it's such a difficult position to judge, so

1447
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:14,200
Speaker 1: many guys with numbers that will argue their case that

1448
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:17,799
Speaker 1: they should be in. It's it's that's a tough position

1449
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:20,920
Speaker 1: to get in at that running back spot. It really is. Yeah,

1450
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 1: as Edgar and James is finding out right now. Well, listen,

1451
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:26,600
Speaker 1: I thanks very much for the time. We appreciate you

1452
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:28,880
Speaker 1: kind of painting the picture of Shady's career in Philly

1453
01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 1: and giving us some perspective thanks very much for the time.

1454
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 1: Glad you could join us. Oh, no problem, you guys

1455
01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:38,200
Speaker 1: got a little Philadelphia Eagles thing going on up there

1456
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 1: in Buffalo. Former coach Sean McDermott. Yeah, the PR guy there.

1457
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:46,680
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm an NFC guy, but you know

1458
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:48,519
Speaker 1: I keep my eye on the field and I'm room

1459
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 1: for you guys. All right, good enough, We appreciate the time.

1460
01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 1: All thanks very much, all right, thank it easy. All right.

1461
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 1: That's I Creased, former Eagles linebacker, current radio host on

1462
01:14:57,960 --> 01:15:00,640
Speaker 1: WIP and Philadelphia. He covers the Eagle down there and

1463
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 1: obviously saw a good portion of Shady's first six years

1464
01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:08,720
Speaker 1: in the NFL with the Eagles, and obviously we know

1465
01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 1: he had some of his best career seasons in Philadelphia

1466
01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:15,560
Speaker 1: twenty eleven when he led the league in rushing touchdowns

1467
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:18,200
Speaker 1: and then in twenty thirteen, when he led the league

1468
01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:21,519
Speaker 1: in rushing as well as yards per carry average. He

1469
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 1: led the league in yards per carry average here with

1470
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:29,160
Speaker 1: the Bills in twenty sixteen, for at least for running

1471
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:32,360
Speaker 1: backs that had two hundred carries or more. That really

1472
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:36,400
Speaker 1: chaps me when the NFL, when they're doing yards per

1473
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:38,920
Speaker 1: carry average or things like that, they lump guys in

1474
01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 1: that have ninety five or one hundred carries, and then

1475
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 1: you got a guy that's got over two hundred, and

1476
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:46,759
Speaker 1: it's really the focal point of an offense. He averages

1477
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:49,200
Speaker 1: five point four and he's behind some dude with ninety

1478
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:51,760
Speaker 1: five carries. It's like, really, I mean, as far as

1479
01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:54,840
Speaker 1: I'm concerned, it's the workhorse guy that deserves to be

1480
01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:56,800
Speaker 1: at the top of that list if he's averaging five

1481
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 1: point four, which Shady did when the Bills led the

1482
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 1: league in rushing that year. So to me, there's a

1483
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 1: lot of very good credentials here for Shady, and it

1484
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:09,240
Speaker 1: is our Twitter poll today. I just look at a

1485
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 1: guy like Edgar and James and I get a little

1486
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:17,360
Speaker 1: concerned at least with where Shady's career is right now.

1487
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:19,560
Speaker 1: I know he wants to get to twelve thousand, and

1488
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:21,759
Speaker 1: I think he's got a great shot at it because

1489
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 1: I think he is going to be the same player

1490
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 1: for the next two or three years. You always worry

1491
01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:29,400
Speaker 1: about that injury, but you know that's out there because

1492
01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 1: as we know, the NFL is a one hundred percent

1493
01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:35,120
Speaker 1: injury league. But he's not a running back that takes

1494
01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:38,200
Speaker 1: those monster shots that take a toll on a player,

1495
01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:41,040
Speaker 1: which is why you see most NFL running backs start

1496
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:44,439
Speaker 1: to decline at age twenty eight. Shady turns thirty this year,

1497
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:47,320
Speaker 1: and he's shown no signs of slowing down. And Ike

1498
01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 1: Greece was one to agree with me. So logic would

1499
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 1: say he can continue on his current trajectory and get

1500
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:57,040
Speaker 1: to twelve thousand yards, if not in two years, probably

1501
01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:59,600
Speaker 1: in three years, and that would all but stamp his

1502
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:01,720
Speaker 1: ticket to the Pro Football Hall of Fame. But then

1503
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 1: I'm looking at a guy like Edger and James, you know,

1504
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 1: who played in Indianapolis, got eleven seasons in and he's

1505
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 1: got over twelve thousand career rushing yards. He's at twelve

1506
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 1: to two forty six. He's thirteenth all time. He's got

1507
01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:19,879
Speaker 1: eighty touchdowns. Was a good receiver out of the backfield,

1508
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:22,960
Speaker 1: much like McCoy was. He's been a Hall of Fame

1509
01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 1: finalist for two of the last three years. And forget

1510
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:28,920
Speaker 1: about getting from the cutdown because they have fifteen finalists,

1511
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:31,479
Speaker 1: and the way the Hall of Fame selectors go, they

1512
01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:33,920
Speaker 1: go from fifteen, they reduce it to ten, kick out

1513
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:36,479
Speaker 1: five names, and then they go from ten down to

1514
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:39,920
Speaker 1: five before they vote up or down yes for Hall

1515
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:43,519
Speaker 1: of Fame. He's not getting to the cut of to

1516
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:47,559
Speaker 1: ten even forget about the group from ten down to five.

1517
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:51,040
Speaker 1: He's not even making that first cut, which a lot

1518
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:53,360
Speaker 1: of Bills fans remember was the trouble that Andre Reid

1519
01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:57,560
Speaker 1: was having for so long. So I see Edger and

1520
01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:00,599
Speaker 1: James being a finalist two of the past three years,

1521
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:02,559
Speaker 1: not even making the first cut. The guy's got twelve

1522
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 1: thousand rushing yards, And I say to myself, huh, well,

1523
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:10,360
Speaker 1: maybe maybe twelve thousand isn't a lock. But then you

1524
01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:13,080
Speaker 1: look at all the guys that are in with twelve

1525
01:18:13,160 --> 01:18:18,839
Speaker 1: thousand or more. Emmett Smith, Walter Peyton, Barry Sanders, Curtis Martin, Ladanian, Thomlinson,

1526
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:22,840
Speaker 1: Jerome Bettis, Eric Dickerson, Tony Dorsett, Jim Brown, Marshall Falk,

1527
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 1: Marcus Allen, Frank o' harris, and Thurmon. Those are all

1528
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:30,519
Speaker 1: the guys with twelve thousand rushing yards who are in.

1529
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 1: The three who have twelve thousand rushing yards or more

1530
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:37,360
Speaker 1: and are not in. Two of them are active Frank

1531
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:41,320
Speaker 1: Gore and Adrian Peterson. The other one is Edgar and James,

1532
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:44,479
Speaker 1: and I thought Ike Greece made a really good point.

1533
01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:48,880
Speaker 1: He said, maybe he's being penalized because he was playing

1534
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 1: a good portion of his career with Peyton Manning and

1535
01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:56,760
Speaker 1: with Marvin Harrison, and even a little bit at the

1536
01:18:56,880 --> 01:19:00,679
Speaker 1: end with Reggie Wayne, and he's I guess that could

1537
01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:02,640
Speaker 1: be held against him, But I think you might be

1538
01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 1: able to make the same argument to a certain extent

1539
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:10,320
Speaker 1: for Lashawn. I mean, playing with Michael Vick a quarterback

1540
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 1: and DeShawn Jackson outside. I man, you hope that doesn't

1541
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:19,360
Speaker 1: get held against Shady, And I didn't think it would be,

1542
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:23,639
Speaker 1: because even on that team, McCoy was the best player,

1543
01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:27,760
Speaker 1: maybe not the best pure athlete that probably would go

1544
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:31,240
Speaker 1: to Michael Vick, but the best football player. It was

1545
01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:33,920
Speaker 1: probably McCoy and his production there during that time would

1546
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:36,560
Speaker 1: be evidence of that. As we said, twenty eleven and

1547
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:40,800
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen the two seasons that really really stick out.

1548
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:43,320
Speaker 1: We got to step aside. We're back with more on

1549
01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:45,679
Speaker 1: the other side, because coming up here after the break

1550
01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:49,479
Speaker 1: is one Eric Molds who will be talking about one

1551
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 1: of the best individual seasons in his career. You might

1552
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:55,200
Speaker 1: even talk about a second because there's two that are

1553
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:59,040
Speaker 1: pretty comparable, which one did he think was better? And

1554
01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:02,760
Speaker 1: will it show up on tonight's MSG airing of the

1555
01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:06,560
Speaker 1: Top ten individual seasons in Bill's History. We'll talk to

1556
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:08,880
Speaker 1: Eric on the other side here on One Bills Live

1557
01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:25,479
Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. The

1558
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:28,560
Speaker 1: Monday edition of One Bills Live continues Chris Brown with

1559
01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:32,560
Speaker 1: you here until three pm as we are discussing the

1560
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:35,799
Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Fame credentials of one Lashawn McCoy.

1561
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:39,920
Speaker 1: But also coming up on MSG tonight is the final

1562
01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:45,960
Speaker 1: installment of the Top Ten series, and tonight's edition is

1563
01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:50,920
Speaker 1: the Top ten individual seasons in Bill's History. And here

1564
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:54,519
Speaker 1: to talk to us a little bit about that list

1565
01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:57,760
Speaker 1: and who might show up on it is one Eric

1566
01:20:57,920 --> 01:21:01,760
Speaker 1: molds Eric Mole's form of Bills Receiver joining us on

1567
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 1: the subway Fresh Take Highline. Eric, It's Chris Brown. How

1568
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:06,400
Speaker 1: you doing man, pres I'm doing well. How are you?

1569
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:09,880
Speaker 1: I'm doing good? Thanks for joining us. You know, I

1570
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:12,519
Speaker 1: think a lot of people are anticipating that you are

1571
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:15,400
Speaker 1: going to be making an appearance on this list tonight

1572
01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 1: when the show airs at eight pm here on MSG.

1573
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:24,840
Speaker 1: And you know you look at top individual seasons in

1574
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:28,360
Speaker 1: your career. You certainly had more than one, but I

1575
01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 1: would think most people would agree that nineteen ninety eight

1576
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 1: and two thousand and two were two of your best.

1577
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:40,280
Speaker 1: In your opinion, does one stand out as better than

1578
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:44,639
Speaker 1: the other for you? I would probably have to say

1579
01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:48,160
Speaker 1: the ninety eight season because actually it was my first

1580
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:52,880
Speaker 1: year as a starter, and the way the process worked

1581
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:55,800
Speaker 1: and I had to work my way into trying to

1582
01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:57,760
Speaker 1: beat out Quinn early for the starting job, and so

1583
01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:01,519
Speaker 1: it was probably more memorable. Was it happened so fast,

1584
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:05,880
Speaker 1: and there's one of those things that, um, you would

1585
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:07,640
Speaker 1: make a big play, then I forget about it and

1586
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:11,720
Speaker 1: and your teammates remind you of the records you said

1587
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:13,040
Speaker 1: and things of that nature. But it was it was

1588
01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:15,360
Speaker 1: the most memorable because it was it was like a blur,

1589
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:17,439
Speaker 1: But at the same time it was it was special

1590
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:19,439
Speaker 1: because it was my first year as a starter, and

1591
01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:22,840
Speaker 1: and getting an opportunity to play and breaking records, and

1592
01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:25,160
Speaker 1: then after that going to the playoffs and then set

1593
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:28,240
Speaker 1: the playoff record. Was that made it more memorable. So

1594
01:22:28,680 --> 01:22:30,679
Speaker 1: you know, you're a first round pick in ninety six,

1595
01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:34,639
Speaker 1: you know you're you're basically a kick returner, as a rookie.

1596
01:22:35,320 --> 01:22:37,759
Speaker 1: UM getting on the field was tough because Bill Brooks

1597
01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:41,519
Speaker 1: was lightening it up and uh Andre was still playing. Obviously,

1598
01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:47,080
Speaker 1: UM what happened after the ninety seventh season, because I

1599
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:50,960
Speaker 1: know Thurman has talked before about how he had a

1600
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:54,680
Speaker 1: conversation with you about how they needed more from you,

1601
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:58,320
Speaker 1: they needed your help with this offense going forward. Can

1602
01:22:58,479 --> 01:23:01,800
Speaker 1: do you remember that conversation when it happened? And you

1603
01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:04,320
Speaker 1: know what your reaction was, you know, having a guy

1604
01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 1: of Thurman's stature talking to you that way. Yeah, you know,

1605
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:10,840
Speaker 1: I said this way. Thurman was my big biggest fan

1606
01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:14,000
Speaker 1: and my big biggest critic. He was always in my

1607
01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:16,400
Speaker 1: heir and he knew the situation. He said at ninety

1608
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:18,760
Speaker 1: seven we had a quarterback change. Obviously, Jim left the

1609
01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:21,640
Speaker 1: ninety six and then Todd Collins took to him, and

1610
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:24,240
Speaker 1: Todd was pretty much learning as a quarterback as well,

1611
01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:26,280
Speaker 1: and so it was one of those situations where we

1612
01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:29,560
Speaker 1: ran the offense that was suited basically for Todd, not

1613
01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:32,280
Speaker 1: too much on him. So it was hard to break

1614
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:34,400
Speaker 1: that starting line up when you brought Quinn early in

1615
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:36,880
Speaker 1: as a thirteen year vet and you had Andre on

1616
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 1: the other side, who was a thirteen year VET, and

1617
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:40,640
Speaker 1: then you had Steve Tasker in the slot who was

1618
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:42,280
Speaker 1: in this thirteen years. So it was kind of tough

1619
01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 1: for me to break that starting line up. And we

1620
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:46,200
Speaker 1: had Russell Copeland there that year two, so I was

1621
01:23:46,479 --> 01:23:48,920
Speaker 1: really not even the fourth receiver. I was the fifth receiver,

1622
01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:51,200
Speaker 1: and it was frustrating to come in. You know, it

1623
01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:53,320
Speaker 1: was fun to do kick return because it was a

1624
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:56,360
Speaker 1: passion of mine, but to break that starting lineup was tough.

1625
01:23:56,439 --> 01:23:58,200
Speaker 1: And then getting that top four was really tough. So

1626
01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:01,160
Speaker 1: Thurman came in and said, hey, you want to you

1627
01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:02,439
Speaker 1: want to come in and show what you can do.

1628
01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 1: You need to go get in shape and have your

1629
01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:08,559
Speaker 1: best preseam you ever had since you've been in the league.

1630
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:10,880
Speaker 1: And I went home and refocused, and I got with

1631
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:13,360
Speaker 1: my trainer and I and I said, in my mind,

1632
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:15,720
Speaker 1: I told Quinn early, and I told Andrea Read and say, hey,

1633
01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:18,439
Speaker 1: I'm coming for Quinn starting job, and I'm gonna I'm

1634
01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:20,760
Speaker 1: gonna play the opposite of you. And then I told

1635
01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:22,920
Speaker 1: Andrea I'm coming for that number one receiver spot, and

1636
01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:26,040
Speaker 1: true veteran fashion, they said, come for it. And it

1637
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:28,720
Speaker 1: made me work harder because those guys pushed me. When

1638
01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:30,400
Speaker 1: you have veterans that have played for a long time,

1639
01:24:30,439 --> 01:24:31,880
Speaker 1: they pushed me and said, come get the spot. And

1640
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:33,880
Speaker 1: so I just worked hard and I wanted to really

1641
01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:35,719
Speaker 1: wanted to help the team win more so than anything.

1642
01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 1: So being a first round pick is a little bit

1643
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 1: more pressure on you. So I refocused and say, you

1644
01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:42,360
Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna crack that starting line up. And

1645
01:24:42,479 --> 01:24:45,240
Speaker 1: then after I had a little decent showing my first game,

1646
01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:47,559
Speaker 1: and then by the third game against Jacksonville, I started

1647
01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:49,640
Speaker 1: realized that the game was slowing down for me. So

1648
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:52,439
Speaker 1: I realized that I could play, and then my confidence

1649
01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:56,000
Speaker 1: level went up, right because I remember covering that training

1650
01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:59,479
Speaker 1: camp at Fredonia, and I mean, you're making plays every

1651
01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:03,240
Speaker 1: day to the point where, you know, the people that

1652
01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:05,280
Speaker 1: had covered the team the previous two years were like,

1653
01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:08,160
Speaker 1: where the heck is this coming from? Because I mean

1654
01:25:08,240 --> 01:25:12,160
Speaker 1: the contrast just from ninety seven to ninety eight was

1655
01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:16,000
Speaker 1: so vast. I mean, you went from you know, being

1656
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:21,439
Speaker 1: a second team guy to being unstoppable on the practice field.

1657
01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:25,760
Speaker 1: I mean Kenny Irvin and Antoine, well, Antoine wasn't there yet,

1658
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:29,400
Speaker 1: but you know, the corners every day are getting beat deep,

1659
01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:33,439
Speaker 1: you're getting behind people. You're turning in monster plays every day,

1660
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:36,160
Speaker 1: and everybody's looking at each other going, Wow, he keeps

1661
01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 1: this up. He's gonna have a monster year. Now here's

1662
01:25:39,280 --> 01:25:42,240
Speaker 1: the thing that I think is most impressive about the

1663
01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:45,200
Speaker 1: numbers you put up that year, because we get to

1664
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:49,280
Speaker 1: about week five or six and things start getting dicey

1665
01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:55,160
Speaker 1: at quarterback between Rob and Doug. And you know, Doug

1666
01:25:55,240 --> 01:25:58,879
Speaker 1: steps in in that Colts game when Rob gets hurt, finishes,

1667
01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:01,439
Speaker 1: it wins the game for you guys. Then you have

1668
01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:04,120
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville game the next week. Flutie Mani is born.

1669
01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:07,599
Speaker 1: Was there ever a concern, you know, with the back

1670
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:12,000
Speaker 1: and forth nature of that quarterback situation, that it was

1671
01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:15,360
Speaker 1: going to impact you trying to have a breakout season?

1672
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:18,479
Speaker 1: You know what it was? It was one of those

1673
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:20,720
Speaker 1: things that I think, and I think, way you feel

1674
01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:22,439
Speaker 1: us for this way. He came to me and said,

1675
01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:24,599
Speaker 1: you know what, We're gonna have a little controversy. I'm

1676
01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:27,519
Speaker 1: sure of it because people are gonna want Flute to play,

1677
01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:29,160
Speaker 1: and because he's won a couple of game for us,

1678
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:32,200
Speaker 1: and obviously we brought Robin and the start, so it's

1679
01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:34,160
Speaker 1: gonna be a little back and forth, and Way just

1680
01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:35,800
Speaker 1: put me to the side and said, you focused, and

1681
01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:39,080
Speaker 1: wherever the ball is going, um, you make the plays.

1682
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:40,640
Speaker 1: And that's what I did. I just focused on what

1683
01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:42,720
Speaker 1: I had to do, and no matter who was throwing it,

1684
01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:44,960
Speaker 1: I knew I had to catch the ball and make plays.

1685
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:47,840
Speaker 1: And I think people didn't realize that. I spent a

1686
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:49,800
Speaker 1: lot of time with Rob in the off season that year,

1687
01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:51,439
Speaker 1: and I spent a lot of time with Doug Flutie.

1688
01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:54,080
Speaker 1: Both of the guys are really big basketball fan, so

1689
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:57,000
Speaker 1: we we spent a lot of time playing basketball. And

1690
01:26:57,080 --> 01:26:59,559
Speaker 1: I would have Robin Doug asked me all the time

1691
01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 1: why you're not playing a lot, why you're not started,

1692
01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:03,120
Speaker 1: And I was just like, well, and I had these

1693
01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:05,479
Speaker 1: guys in front of them, and then they and them

1694
01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:07,800
Speaker 1: watching me play basketball. Those guys are like, there's no

1695
01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:09,960
Speaker 1: way that you're not have started in this league. And

1696
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 1: I think their confidence in me started throwing me at

1697
01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:14,200
Speaker 1: the ball a lot. When doubles on the second team,

1698
01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:16,640
Speaker 1: and then Robert Toby Pattins, and when I got to

1699
01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:18,479
Speaker 1: go on with the first team, and then a confidence

1700
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:21,960
Speaker 1: level in me it grew. It grew a lot more

1701
01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:24,040
Speaker 1: than so the other guys because they spent so much

1702
01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:25,840
Speaker 1: time with me, And I think, and that's my biggest

1703
01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:28,600
Speaker 1: thing with quarterbacks and receivers. If a quarterbacks there's a

1704
01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:30,160
Speaker 1: lot of time with the receiver, he's going to have

1705
01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:32,320
Speaker 1: a tendency to go to that guy because he feels

1706
01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:35,960
Speaker 1: so comfortable throwing to that person, because he knows exactly

1707
01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:38,040
Speaker 1: where he's going to be in certain routes, and he

1708
01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:40,120
Speaker 1: can make play a little. Guys, confidence in me got

1709
01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:42,400
Speaker 1: so high that a lot of packing came my way

1710
01:27:42,439 --> 01:27:45,080
Speaker 1: that year. Talking to Eric Moles on the Subway Fresh

1711
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:49,240
Speaker 1: Aake Hotline MSG airing tonight the final installment of the

1712
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:53,439
Speaker 1: Bill's Top ten series Top ten individual seasons in Bill's history,

1713
01:27:53,479 --> 01:27:57,080
Speaker 1: and Eric Moulds expected to certainly be on that list somewhere.

1714
01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:01,880
Speaker 1: You know, I think the two thousand and two season

1715
01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:06,240
Speaker 1: for you, though, Eric gets a little overlooked. Obviously, everybody

1716
01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:08,800
Speaker 1: remembers you set the franchise mark for receptions with a

1717
01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:12,720
Speaker 1: hundred that season, But was the situation just a lot

1718
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:15,599
Speaker 1: smoother all the way through because you think about ninety eight,

1719
01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:18,120
Speaker 1: you guys start oh in three, you're playing catch up

1720
01:28:18,200 --> 01:28:20,559
Speaker 1: the rest of the year. You got the quarterback thing,

1721
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:23,720
Speaker 1: and you do make the playoffs. You know, in that

1722
01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:26,439
Speaker 1: playoff game was ridiculous too. You know, nine catches, two

1723
01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:28,360
Speaker 1: hundred and forty yards, you set the record in the playoffs.

1724
01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:31,200
Speaker 1: But two thousand and two, Bledsoe comes in, He's the

1725
01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:35,600
Speaker 1: unquestioned starter. Gilbride's the new OC. You got peerless on

1726
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:39,200
Speaker 1: the other side of you, Travis in the backfield. I mean,

1727
01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:42,679
Speaker 1: it was Shane. It had the makings of what could

1728
01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:45,479
Speaker 1: be a pretty dynamic offense. When did you guys realize

1729
01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:47,880
Speaker 1: you had something that could be really productive each and

1730
01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:51,960
Speaker 1: every week. We kind of figured that, I'd probably during

1731
01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:54,080
Speaker 1: week five and six, and you know what, me and

1732
01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:57,759
Speaker 1: Pilots had a conversation about this, probably like the sixty

1733
01:28:57,840 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 1: seven weeks of the season, that we could set record,

1734
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:02,320
Speaker 1: we can be special, and our goal was we got

1735
01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:04,280
Speaker 1: with Travis, we wanted to each get a thousand year.

1736
01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:06,880
Speaker 1: We were just focusing there on winning games and if

1737
01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:09,400
Speaker 1: those things came, we would take them. But we knew

1738
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:11,439
Speaker 1: we had Drew back there winging the ball. So it

1739
01:29:11,560 --> 01:29:14,760
Speaker 1: was kind of one of those things that coaches really

1740
01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:17,559
Speaker 1: wanted me to get more catches and more passages that year.

1741
01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:19,040
Speaker 1: But at the same time I told him. I think

1742
01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:21,000
Speaker 1: that I told coach Gilbright. I remember telling him in

1743
01:29:21,040 --> 01:29:22,759
Speaker 1: the meeting. I said, let's be a little bit more balanced.

1744
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:24,760
Speaker 1: Let's get the ball to Pairless and let's get the

1745
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:27,240
Speaker 1: ball to Jay RUMs Murr. Let's get the ball to

1746
01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:29,080
Speaker 1: Travis in the backfield and try to be a little

1747
01:29:29,080 --> 01:29:31,160
Speaker 1: bit more balanced. And you know, I can easily that

1748
01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:33,560
Speaker 1: you have probably had about fifteen sixteen hundred yards, but

1749
01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:36,200
Speaker 1: I would defer lots of pailets and pilots books like

1750
01:29:36,320 --> 01:29:38,360
Speaker 1: one of those guys that I talked to make plays too.

1751
01:29:38,439 --> 01:29:40,400
Speaker 1: So it was one of those seasons that I wound

1752
01:29:40,520 --> 01:29:43,320
Speaker 1: up with thirteen hundred yards and Pailess was pretty close

1753
01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:46,160
Speaker 1: to twelve hundred and some yards, and you had Jay

1754
01:29:46,240 --> 01:29:48,120
Speaker 1: Rivers but people don't realize he had almost eight hundred

1755
01:29:48,160 --> 01:29:51,599
Speaker 1: yards receiving as a tight end and Travis had fourteen

1756
01:29:51,640 --> 01:29:53,640
Speaker 1: hundred yards rushing. So it was an offense that was

1757
01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:56,360
Speaker 1: pretty pretty good. And we had a couple of receivers

1758
01:29:56,439 --> 01:29:58,639
Speaker 1: that were the fourth receiver. I mean, I think Josh

1759
01:29:58,760 --> 01:30:00,960
Speaker 1: was the fourth receiver of those years, and he had

1760
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:02,880
Speaker 1: maybe like three or four hundred yards receivings. It was

1761
01:30:02,920 --> 01:30:07,120
Speaker 1: an offense that it was pretty good. That the offense

1762
01:30:07,200 --> 01:30:09,040
Speaker 1: that you nice tee the defense. I said, if you

1763
01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:11,360
Speaker 1: guys stopped somebody maybe twice the game, we probably go

1764
01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:15,400
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl. We scored a lot of points

1765
01:30:15,439 --> 01:30:18,000
Speaker 1: that year. And then, yeah, they gave up a lot

1766
01:30:18,040 --> 01:30:19,800
Speaker 1: of points, but we knew we had to score a

1767
01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:21,840
Speaker 1: lot of points because our defense. Not to say they

1768
01:30:21,880 --> 01:30:23,720
Speaker 1: were bad, but they were. They were giving up a

1769
01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:25,360
Speaker 1: lot of points because we didn't have the type of

1770
01:30:25,439 --> 01:30:28,400
Speaker 1: defense we needed the following year. And here's something that

1771
01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:31,960
Speaker 1: went by the board too that I didn't even remember, Eric,

1772
01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:34,840
Speaker 1: and that's that in two thousand, Yeah, the Bills are

1773
01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:37,080
Speaker 1: only eight and eighth that year, you don't make the playoffs.

1774
01:30:37,120 --> 01:30:41,759
Speaker 1: It's Wad's last year. But you had ninety four catches

1775
01:30:41,880 --> 01:30:45,799
Speaker 1: in two thousand. What sticks out about that two thousand

1776
01:30:45,880 --> 01:30:51,439
Speaker 1: season if anything, you know, at least personally, because I

1777
01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:53,439
Speaker 1: mean you were a featured part of the passing attack,

1778
01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:57,000
Speaker 1: and I mean ninety four catches kind of gets lost

1779
01:30:57,040 --> 01:31:00,200
Speaker 1: in an eight and eighth season. Unfortunately. Yeah, it was

1780
01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:03,559
Speaker 1: you know what, that season was a lot much harder

1781
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:05,639
Speaker 1: than the nine eight season because you know, as you remember,

1782
01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:07,680
Speaker 1: Rob got hurt a lot that Yeah, it would be

1783
01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:10,200
Speaker 1: dug in for two or three games, and then Rob

1784
01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:12,439
Speaker 1: would get back healthy and he would play for two

1785
01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:14,280
Speaker 1: or three games. So it was kind of I was

1786
01:31:15,080 --> 01:31:16,760
Speaker 1: getting in a rhythm with Doug, and then all of

1787
01:31:16,800 --> 01:31:18,679
Speaker 1: a sudden Rob would come back. Then I was getting

1788
01:31:18,680 --> 01:31:20,800
Speaker 1: the rhythm of Rob. He would get hurt again and

1789
01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:23,200
Speaker 1: then it would implement Dug back in, and then I

1790
01:31:23,240 --> 01:31:25,760
Speaker 1: would get back in the rhythm with Doug. And then

1791
01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:28,080
Speaker 1: I think for the last two or three or four games,

1792
01:31:28,280 --> 01:31:31,080
Speaker 1: Rob ended up not being able to play, and I

1793
01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:33,240
Speaker 1: got back in the rhythm with Doug again. So it

1794
01:31:33,320 --> 01:31:35,120
Speaker 1: was one of those situations that the quarterbacks were in

1795
01:31:35,200 --> 01:31:37,840
Speaker 1: and out, and so it was frustrated from that sense

1796
01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:39,960
Speaker 1: because I never really got a chance to really have

1797
01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:41,720
Speaker 1: a guy more than like a couple of years, and

1798
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:43,280
Speaker 1: I had Drew for a couple of years, but then

1799
01:31:43,479 --> 01:31:44,880
Speaker 1: they got rid of Drew. So it was one of

1800
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:47,080
Speaker 1: those things that it was tough because it was like, Okay,

1801
01:31:47,120 --> 01:31:49,400
Speaker 1: I'm getting a rhythm with this guy. We just one

1802
01:31:49,479 --> 01:31:51,840
Speaker 1: or two players away from being a really good team

1803
01:31:51,880 --> 01:31:53,280
Speaker 1: and a really good offense, and then all of a

1804
01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:56,400
Speaker 1: sudden a switch comes and then we changed quarterbacks. Are

1805
01:31:57,520 --> 01:32:00,880
Speaker 1: we get rid of Drew Blesso when we as we

1806
01:32:01,040 --> 01:32:03,400
Speaker 1: as you know, we drafted a JP lastman and then

1807
01:32:03,960 --> 01:32:06,479
Speaker 1: I'm starting all back over again. So it was one

1808
01:32:06,479 --> 01:32:08,120
Speaker 1: of those things that it was frustrating, But at the

1809
01:32:08,160 --> 01:32:10,320
Speaker 1: same time I knew the business, so it was the

1810
01:32:10,360 --> 01:32:12,600
Speaker 1: business side of it. But I always wondered, if I

1811
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:14,880
Speaker 1: had a constant quarterback for ten years, how good I

1812
01:32:14,960 --> 01:32:17,200
Speaker 1: could really have been. So, if there is a number

1813
01:32:17,920 --> 01:32:21,120
Speaker 1: that you're most proud of from your career, is it

1814
01:32:21,960 --> 01:32:25,280
Speaker 1: the hundred receptions in O two? Is it averaging over

1815
01:32:25,439 --> 01:32:27,640
Speaker 1: twenty yards to catch in ninety eight? Is it the

1816
01:32:27,680 --> 01:32:30,439
Speaker 1: two hundred and forty yards in the playoff game? What

1817
01:32:31,160 --> 01:32:35,800
Speaker 1: number are you most proud of among your achievements as

1818
01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:38,519
Speaker 1: a receiver in this league? But you know, I'm really

1819
01:32:38,560 --> 01:32:40,519
Speaker 1: proud of all of them. But I think if a

1820
01:32:40,600 --> 01:32:44,760
Speaker 1: toss up between between averaging twenty twenty yards to catch

1821
01:32:44,920 --> 01:32:46,720
Speaker 1: a game a season, that's very, very hard to do

1822
01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:50,679
Speaker 1: for being a feature receiver at the time. I wasn't

1823
01:32:50,720 --> 01:32:52,840
Speaker 1: really the feature receiver still ANDRE at the time, but

1824
01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:55,400
Speaker 1: as the season went on, they became the feature me

1825
01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:57,800
Speaker 1: more so. It's really tough to average twenty yards to

1826
01:32:57,880 --> 01:33:00,400
Speaker 1: catch for a guy that to put up those type

1827
01:33:00,400 --> 01:33:03,080
Speaker 1: of numbers. But um, I would probably have to say

1828
01:33:03,080 --> 01:33:04,720
Speaker 1: it's a toss up between that in the playoff game.

1829
01:33:04,760 --> 01:33:06,479
Speaker 1: You know, as you know Chris is playoffs tough and

1830
01:33:06,760 --> 01:33:08,680
Speaker 1: and you're not gonna hide anything from the team. So

1831
01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:10,640
Speaker 1: when you put up those type of numbers in the

1832
01:33:10,680 --> 01:33:12,559
Speaker 1: playoff game. And it's not to say that we were

1833
01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:14,840
Speaker 1: playing against Miami twice a year, so they knew me

1834
01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:17,120
Speaker 1: very well. I knew them very well. So it was

1835
01:33:17,160 --> 01:33:18,559
Speaker 1: one of those things that I knew they were gonna

1836
01:33:18,600 --> 01:33:21,160
Speaker 1: try to stop me. But it was in that game

1837
01:33:21,160 --> 01:33:22,840
Speaker 1: I could tell you I was really really focused and

1838
01:33:22,840 --> 01:33:24,719
Speaker 1: I was and you remember back in the day because

1839
01:33:24,720 --> 01:33:26,840
Speaker 1: you probably remember it was back and forth between Doug

1840
01:33:26,920 --> 01:33:29,800
Speaker 1: who then their secondary about stuffing fluted flakes. Yeah, I know,

1841
01:33:30,360 --> 01:33:31,880
Speaker 1: So it kind of got it took me off, and

1842
01:33:31,920 --> 01:33:34,040
Speaker 1: I said they they don't have to play against Doug,

1843
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:36,000
Speaker 1: they have to play against me and covered me and

1844
01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:37,960
Speaker 1: so I kind of took it personal and I wanted

1845
01:33:38,000 --> 01:33:39,680
Speaker 1: to make a point with those guys. So it was

1846
01:33:39,720 --> 01:33:42,120
Speaker 1: one of those things that I'm probably the playoff game,

1847
01:33:42,160 --> 01:33:44,240
Speaker 1: I think, because it's it's really tough to even catch

1848
01:33:44,280 --> 01:33:46,519
Speaker 1: passes in the playoffs. So but to put those type

1849
01:33:46,520 --> 01:33:49,360
Speaker 1: of numbers up there was I would say it's impressive. Yeah,

1850
01:33:49,360 --> 01:33:51,080
Speaker 1: they had no answer for you that day. Man, that

1851
01:33:51,200 --> 01:33:54,519
Speaker 1: was ridiculous. Um well, listen, thanks very much for the time.

1852
01:33:54,720 --> 01:33:56,559
Speaker 1: These guys that put the show together, they came down

1853
01:33:56,640 --> 01:33:59,519
Speaker 1: and interviewed you down in Mississippi or no, not yet,

1854
01:33:59,560 --> 01:34:04,240
Speaker 1: they're coming okay, but yeah, I mean, we fully expect

1855
01:34:04,280 --> 01:34:06,680
Speaker 1: to see you on the list tonight. We'll have to

1856
01:34:06,720 --> 01:34:09,760
Speaker 1: see where you end up. You know, I think you

1857
01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:11,800
Speaker 1: got a good shot at top five. I mean, you know,

1858
01:34:11,880 --> 01:34:14,360
Speaker 1: we've got OJ's got some pretty darn good years, as

1859
01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:17,639
Speaker 1: you know, um Thurman's got a couple of good years,

1860
01:34:17,720 --> 01:34:20,080
Speaker 1: and you know, even Bruce on the defensive side with

1861
01:34:20,160 --> 01:34:22,880
Speaker 1: a couple of big time sack seasons is there. But

1862
01:34:23,320 --> 01:34:24,960
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna be on the list there. Fella.

1863
01:34:25,080 --> 01:34:27,880
Speaker 1: We thank you for joining us and enjoy your summer. Man,

1864
01:34:28,040 --> 01:34:30,400
Speaker 1: good to talk to you. Thanks, Chris presid A. Good

1865
01:34:30,439 --> 01:34:32,479
Speaker 1: talk to you, man. All right. That's Eric Molds, former

1866
01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:35,360
Speaker 1: Bill's wide receiver. You know, if there's one number that

1867
01:34:35,439 --> 01:34:38,599
Speaker 1: I feel bad for Eric Molds about, it's his career

1868
01:34:38,880 --> 01:34:44,400
Speaker 1: receiving yardage five yards short of ten thousand for his career.

1869
01:34:44,520 --> 01:34:48,400
Speaker 1: He's got nine thousand, nine hundred and ninety five career

1870
01:34:48,479 --> 01:34:52,479
Speaker 1: receiving yards. That would stick in my craw not getting

1871
01:34:52,520 --> 01:34:55,720
Speaker 1: to ten oh, and that's I don't. I never bring

1872
01:34:55,800 --> 01:34:58,639
Speaker 1: it up to him. I know it's a sore subject.

1873
01:34:59,000 --> 01:35:01,439
Speaker 1: I never bring it up with him because if he's

1874
01:35:01,439 --> 01:35:03,280
Speaker 1: gonna give me his time, that's the last thing I'm

1875
01:35:03,320 --> 01:35:06,439
Speaker 1: gonna mention. But ninety four catches for him. In the

1876
01:35:06,520 --> 01:35:09,160
Speaker 1: two thousand season, Bills only go eight and eighth that year,

1877
01:35:09,680 --> 01:35:12,559
Speaker 1: back and forth between Flutie and Johnson because Rob's getting

1878
01:35:12,640 --> 01:35:15,400
Speaker 1: hurt and falling on the football and separating rib cartilage

1879
01:35:15,400 --> 01:35:18,800
Speaker 1: and god knows what else. And I think it impacted

1880
01:35:19,320 --> 01:35:21,720
Speaker 1: the future or the fortunes of that team that year.

1881
01:35:22,439 --> 01:35:24,439
Speaker 1: And they only finish eight and eight and Wade's done.

1882
01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:29,599
Speaker 1: Wade's done after that season, and then the salary cap

1883
01:35:29,640 --> 01:35:32,760
Speaker 1: purge happens and the rebuild begins, and we all know

1884
01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:34,639
Speaker 1: how long it took to get back to the playoffs,

1885
01:35:34,720 --> 01:35:37,840
Speaker 1: all the way to twenty seventeen. Just last year we

1886
01:35:37,920 --> 01:35:40,040
Speaker 1: got step aside. But we'll be back with more here

1887
01:35:40,080 --> 01:35:42,280
Speaker 1: on One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive. We're still

1888
01:35:42,320 --> 01:35:44,720
Speaker 1: talking Lashawn McCoy. We take your phone calls on that

1889
01:35:45,280 --> 01:35:48,200
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame candidacy. I'll even roll in Wall of

1890
01:35:48,240 --> 01:35:51,280
Speaker 1: Fame candidacy for him as a Bill. It's only starting

1891
01:35:51,320 --> 01:35:53,800
Speaker 1: his fourth season, but the numbers are pretty good. We'll

1892
01:35:53,840 --> 01:35:56,160
Speaker 1: dissect some of those when we come back here on

1893
01:35:56,240 --> 01:35:58,439
Speaker 1: One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo

1894
01:35:58,520 --> 01:36:14,240
Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One Bills Live. Chris Brown

1895
01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:18,080
Speaker 1: with you up until three pm today as we have

1896
01:36:18,160 --> 01:36:20,960
Speaker 1: a Monday edition of One Bills Live. I'm with you solo,

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Speaker 1: so feel free to chime in with your phone calls

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Speaker 1: at eight oh three five fifty two, five fifty. We're

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Speaker 1: talking about Lashawn McCoy's Hall of Fame potential as it

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Speaker 1: currently stands today, not where we think he's gonna end up,

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Speaker 1: but with just over ten thousand rushing yards, a rushing

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Speaker 1: title to his credit, six Pro Bowls to AP First

1903
01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:46,360
Speaker 1: team nods, you know, the body of work is pretty

1904
01:36:46,479 --> 01:36:50,519
Speaker 1: strong right now, including a yards per carry average for

1905
01:36:50,600 --> 01:36:54,080
Speaker 1: his career of four point six two, which is pretty

1906
01:36:54,120 --> 01:36:56,840
Speaker 1: darn good. That's right behind OJ at four point six seven.

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Speaker 1: To give you an idea on the big playability. But

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Speaker 1: let's go to the phones. We'll open up the phones

1909
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Speaker 1: here real quick. In this short segment, we'll get to Tom, Tom, Yes, Tom,

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Speaker 1: and West Seneca, who's on the subway? Fresh takeout lines? Tom,

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Speaker 1: What do you have for us on Leashawn? I think

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Speaker 1: Lashan McCoy is a great running back, and I think

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Speaker 1: he's a shoeing for the Hall of Fame. But you know,

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Speaker 1: we all know it. It's imperative that we have a

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Speaker 1: better than average offensive line. It's imperative that we have

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Speaker 1: a good receiving corps that could be used as decoys,

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Speaker 1: and a good quarterback that could handle the ball, good

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Speaker 1: good ball handler. And also, let me comment about Thurman Thomas.

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Speaker 1: He had it better than a better than average offensive line.

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Speaker 1: And of course O. J. Simpson had it better than

1921
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Speaker 1: offensive line with the Electric company, and he did get

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Speaker 1: two thousand three yards of one year. He never would

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Speaker 1: have gotten that without without the offensive line he have had.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's pretty much it, Chris, thanks for

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Speaker 1: having me, all right, appreciate the call time. Thank you

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Speaker 1: very much. We'll take one more call before the break here.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Emmanuel, who's all the way out in

1928
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Speaker 1: Hawaii calling into one Bill's Live. What do you have

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Speaker 1: for us, sir, Good morning, Chris. I think Leshaw McCoy

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Speaker 1: is a Hall of Famer already because I compared his

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Speaker 1: numbers to Thurman Thomas and almost identical. In fact, I

1932
01:38:22,439 --> 01:38:25,799
Speaker 1: think he has more receiving yards and Thurman Thomas also.

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Speaker 1: I think my debate is, if you had to pick

1934
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Speaker 1: a team today, would you pick Thurman or Lashawn McCoy,

1935
01:38:31,720 --> 01:38:34,840
Speaker 1: who's the better back? I think Thurman was a little

1936
01:38:34,880 --> 01:38:38,360
Speaker 1: bit stronger, but I think McCoy is more elusive, and

1937
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Speaker 1: I kind of think I will go with Leshawn McCoy

1938
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Speaker 1: over Thurmon Thomas. Yeah. I mean, here's the thing. You

1939
01:38:44,439 --> 01:38:48,400
Speaker 1: have to determine what do you have on your team already,

1940
01:38:48,560 --> 01:38:53,040
Speaker 1: because if you have other weapons, I think Thurman is

1941
01:38:53,240 --> 01:38:56,400
Speaker 1: the guy you would want to still be the engine

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Speaker 1: of your offense because of his versatility. If you have

1943
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Speaker 1: a team that doesn't have a whole heck of a

1944
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Speaker 1: lot and you really got to lean on your running

1945
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Speaker 1: back to make big plays for you, then I think

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Speaker 1: you probably go with Leshawn because he's probably the big

1947
01:39:10,000 --> 01:39:14,720
Speaker 1: the greater big play threat. You know. Thurman certainly had

1948
01:39:14,760 --> 01:39:17,560
Speaker 1: some long touchdowns over the course of his career. But

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01:39:17,920 --> 01:39:19,800
Speaker 1: I think even he would tell you that he's not

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01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:24,519
Speaker 1: running away from everybody. In every game. He knew that

1951
01:39:24,840 --> 01:39:28,280
Speaker 1: his bread and butter was catching balls out of the backfield,

1952
01:39:28,360 --> 01:39:31,639
Speaker 1: making himself skinny, and finding his way through those creases

1953
01:39:32,120 --> 01:39:34,200
Speaker 1: to get yards when it looked like nothing was there.

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01:39:35,320 --> 01:39:37,200
Speaker 1: Leshaun's the kind of guy who's going to reverse his

1955
01:39:37,320 --> 01:39:40,960
Speaker 1: field and go thirty yards east west to gain four.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember Thurman ever doing anything like that. They're

1957
01:39:45,479 --> 01:39:49,720
Speaker 1: I think they're two totally different style running backs. But

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01:39:49,840 --> 01:39:53,479
Speaker 1: I think Thurman, at least right now, has the greater

1959
01:39:53,680 --> 01:39:57,240
Speaker 1: body of work and credentials, not in terms of just

1960
01:39:57,439 --> 01:40:02,360
Speaker 1: pure numbers, but also in terms of titles. You know,

1961
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Speaker 1: four AFC titles. I think he's got just as many

1962
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Speaker 1: Pro Bowls. He's got also got an NFL MVP to

1963
01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:11,880
Speaker 1: his name. Now, that's obviously aided by the fact that

1964
01:40:11,960 --> 01:40:14,599
Speaker 1: he played on a high profile team that already gone

1965
01:40:14,640 --> 01:40:16,519
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl once and then played even better

1966
01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:18,880
Speaker 1: than next year in ninety one and was even more

1967
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Speaker 1: dominant offensively. Those all are all things that work in

1968
01:40:22,080 --> 01:40:26,439
Speaker 1: his favor. But I tend to agree with Ike that

1969
01:40:26,640 --> 01:40:30,200
Speaker 1: the one thing that Leshawn has that he can put

1970
01:40:30,280 --> 01:40:34,799
Speaker 1: on his resume that you know, doesn't that maybe Thurman

1971
01:40:34,920 --> 01:40:39,560
Speaker 1: can't say is he was unquestionably the best player on

1972
01:40:39,840 --> 01:40:43,640
Speaker 1: his team almost his entire career, whether it was in

1973
01:40:43,720 --> 01:40:47,320
Speaker 1: Philadelphia with DeShawn Jackson and Michael Vick, Michael Vick better athlete,

1974
01:40:47,600 --> 01:40:51,760
Speaker 1: Lushawn better football player, and then here in Buffalo, he's

1975
01:40:51,800 --> 01:40:53,479
Speaker 1: been the best player on the team all three years

1976
01:40:53,520 --> 01:40:56,240
Speaker 1: he's been on the roster. Thurman played with so many

1977
01:40:56,320 --> 01:40:58,439
Speaker 1: great players, I don't know that he could say that

1978
01:40:59,240 --> 01:41:01,200
Speaker 1: although he probably be in the top two or three,

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01:41:01,320 --> 01:41:04,000
Speaker 1: he's right there. If he's not the top guy, we're

1980
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Speaker 1: probably splitting We're probably splitting hairs, don't you think. Yeah?

1981
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Speaker 1: I think the one problem I will have is I

1982
01:41:11,160 --> 01:41:13,559
Speaker 1: don't think he's a wall of a Bill's Wall of Famer,

1983
01:41:13,960 --> 01:41:16,880
Speaker 1: because the question is when a player has two teams, right,

1984
01:41:16,960 --> 01:41:20,120
Speaker 1: and we all know how much Lashan McCoy loves Philadelphia,

1985
01:41:20,760 --> 01:41:23,040
Speaker 1: you'll go in the Hall of Fame as well as

1986
01:41:23,120 --> 01:41:25,960
Speaker 1: the Wall of Fame of Philadelphia. But as a Buffalo Bill,

1987
01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:28,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. But as a great one of the

1988
01:41:28,880 --> 01:41:31,400
Speaker 1: greatest running backs in Buffalo Bill history, without a doubt,

1989
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Speaker 1: and lastly, I was wondering about Lasha McCoy's extension. He's

1990
01:41:35,000 --> 01:41:37,040
Speaker 1: going into his last year of contract out of bills,

1991
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Speaker 1: saying Okay, he's thirty and we're going to move on

1992
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Speaker 1: in the draft, or are already looking to extend him.

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Speaker 1: I know you wouldn't have that information, but it's a

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01:41:44,600 --> 01:41:47,519
Speaker 1: question I've been thinking about. Yeah, and a valid one,

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Speaker 1: and I thank you for the call. Emmanual, Uh, stay

1996
01:41:50,320 --> 01:41:53,240
Speaker 1: warm out there in a way, but just stay away

1997
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Speaker 1: from the lava. I think that what you have there

1998
01:41:57,000 --> 01:42:00,320
Speaker 1: is a wait and see situation. I don't think ready

1999
01:42:00,360 --> 01:42:03,240
Speaker 1: to talk turkey on that just yet. And it wouldn't

2000
01:42:03,360 --> 01:42:05,320
Speaker 1: surprise me if they wait to see how the first

2001
01:42:05,360 --> 01:42:07,760
Speaker 1: four to six games go. There's no question they're gonna

2002
01:42:07,800 --> 01:42:11,120
Speaker 1: be leaning on him heavily with this offense. And I

2003
01:42:11,520 --> 01:42:16,679
Speaker 1: kind of wonder if how the quarterback situation comes along

2004
01:42:17,680 --> 01:42:21,519
Speaker 1: has an impact on where McCoy fits in in terms

2005
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Speaker 1: of the future. He could be still leaned upon heavily

2006
01:42:25,920 --> 01:42:28,840
Speaker 1: over the next two or three years. What if Josh

2007
01:42:28,920 --> 01:42:31,040
Speaker 1: Allen comes in and starts lighting the world on fire

2008
01:42:31,360 --> 01:42:33,920
Speaker 1: and you want to run your offense through him, do

2009
01:42:34,040 --> 01:42:36,080
Speaker 1: you want to pay Leshawn McCoy seven or eight million

2010
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Speaker 1: dollars a year as a thirty one thirty two year old,

2011
01:42:39,160 --> 01:42:42,679
Speaker 1: even though he's still very productive. When you've got this quarterback,

2012
01:42:42,720 --> 01:42:44,960
Speaker 1: I think you can afford to because you got a

2013
01:42:45,040 --> 01:42:47,400
Speaker 1: quarterback on a rookie contract. If all that plays out.

2014
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Speaker 1: I just don't get the sense that it's priority number

2015
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Speaker 1: one right now. I think they're gonna wait and see

2016
01:42:52,680 --> 01:42:56,360
Speaker 1: how this offense takes shape before making any conclusions about

2017
01:42:56,400 --> 01:42:57,960
Speaker 1: where they need to go in a year from now

2018
01:42:58,120 --> 01:43:00,280
Speaker 1: or two years from now. I know they probably doesn't

2019
01:43:00,280 --> 01:43:02,680
Speaker 1: answer the question exactly how you want it, but I

2020
01:43:02,720 --> 01:43:05,400
Speaker 1: think it's a wait and see kind of situation. We're

2021
01:43:05,479 --> 01:43:07,560
Speaker 1: late for the break, so I will step aside. But

2022
01:43:07,640 --> 01:43:09,120
Speaker 1: coming up on the other side, we're gonna have a

2023
01:43:09,160 --> 01:43:11,760
Speaker 1: fun segment here. We're gonna be talking to the guy

2024
01:43:11,960 --> 01:43:16,000
Speaker 1: from the Super seventies sports Twitter handle, Ricky Cobb. If

2025
01:43:16,040 --> 01:43:19,599
Speaker 1: you have not seen this Twitter page, you gotta check

2026
01:43:19,640 --> 01:43:22,240
Speaker 1: it out. It is hilarious, especially if you're a kid

2027
01:43:22,360 --> 01:43:25,920
Speaker 1: of the seventies or eighties. This is a Twitter follow

2028
01:43:26,120 --> 01:43:28,120
Speaker 1: for you. We'll talk to Ricky Cobb on the other side.

2029
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Speaker 1: It's one Bill's Live from one Bill's Drive. This is

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01:43:30,520 --> 01:43:45,160
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio, Hello Bills Radio Network Sports date. The

2031
01:43:45,320 --> 01:43:48,760
Speaker 1: Sabers introduced their top pick from last weekend's draft as

2032
01:43:48,880 --> 01:43:51,519
Speaker 1: Rasmus Dline met the Western New York media this morning

2033
01:43:51,560 --> 01:43:53,880
Speaker 1: a key Bank Center. Dalne will wear a number twenty

2034
01:43:53,960 --> 01:43:58,960
Speaker 1: six as he begins his NHL career in Buffalo. NFL

2035
01:43:59,080 --> 01:44:02,360
Speaker 1: News New England page its wide receiver Julian Edelman's appeal

2036
01:44:02,439 --> 01:44:08,679
Speaker 1: hearing for his performance enhancing substances suspension is happening today. ESPN,

2037
01:44:08,760 --> 01:44:12,320
Speaker 1: which first reported the hearing date, says the wide receiver

2038
01:44:12,600 --> 01:44:15,559
Speaker 1: has obtained outside council to assist him in his appeal.

2039
01:44:15,680 --> 01:44:19,160
Speaker 1: Edelman was suspended four games by the league earlier this month.

2040
01:44:19,680 --> 01:44:22,599
Speaker 1: Looks like Jamis Winston's three game league suspension for twenty

2041
01:44:22,640 --> 01:44:25,840
Speaker 1: eighteen does not mean that Ryan Fitzpatrick will automatically start

2042
01:44:25,880 --> 01:44:28,759
Speaker 1: this fall for Tampa Bay. Reports out of Tampa indicate

2043
01:44:28,840 --> 01:44:31,960
Speaker 1: that last year's third drink QB Ryan Griffin has a

2044
01:44:32,040 --> 01:44:35,560
Speaker 1: chance to win the starting job and move past Fitzpatrick

2045
01:44:36,040 --> 01:44:39,240
Speaker 1: on the depth chart. At the World Cup today, Saudi

2046
01:44:39,280 --> 01:44:43,000
Speaker 1: Arabia beat Egypt two one, but neither team will advance

2047
01:44:43,320 --> 01:44:47,080
Speaker 1: beyond the group stage. Uruguay beat Russia three nil. They

2048
01:44:47,120 --> 01:44:50,280
Speaker 1: actually passed Russia in the standings to win their group.

2049
01:44:50,360 --> 01:44:53,840
Speaker 1: They'll be seated one and two for the knockout round

2050
01:44:54,160 --> 01:44:58,120
Speaker 1: from their respective group and then just underway now Iran

2051
01:44:58,280 --> 01:45:02,160
Speaker 1: and Portugal note score and Spain taking on Morocco as

2052
01:45:02,240 --> 01:45:05,920
Speaker 1: group play continues in Russia. Yankees looked like they'll be

2053
01:45:06,000 --> 01:45:09,240
Speaker 1: without ketcher Gary Sanchez for a little while. Sanchez sustained

2054
01:45:09,240 --> 01:45:11,160
Speaker 1: a groin injury over the weekend in the series with

2055
01:45:11,240 --> 01:45:14,080
Speaker 1: the Rays. He is expected to be placed on the

2056
01:45:14,200 --> 01:45:16,679
Speaker 1: DL today and the Bison's open a four game set

2057
01:45:17,000 --> 01:45:20,200
Speaker 1: with Pawtucket tonight. First pitch at Coca Cola Field is

2058
01:45:20,400 --> 01:45:23,639
Speaker 1: at seven o five. That is your sports update from

2059
01:45:23,720 --> 01:45:26,880
Speaker 1: One Bills Drive. This is One Bills Live. Chris Brown

2060
01:45:26,960 --> 01:45:30,479
Speaker 1: with you up until three pm, and we promised you

2061
01:45:30,760 --> 01:45:33,120
Speaker 1: kind of have a little bit of a lighter segment

2062
01:45:33,520 --> 01:45:35,600
Speaker 1: here in the two o'clock hour, and we have that

2063
01:45:36,600 --> 01:45:41,320
Speaker 1: in the form of a Twitter handle that really is

2064
01:45:41,720 --> 01:45:44,639
Speaker 1: a must follow, especially if you're a kid that grew

2065
01:45:44,760 --> 01:45:47,960
Speaker 1: up in the seventies and eighties. Joining us now on

2066
01:45:48,040 --> 01:45:52,040
Speaker 1: the Subway Fresh Day Hotline is Ricky Cobb, the founder

2067
01:45:52,120 --> 01:45:53,840
Speaker 1: of the Twitter page, I guess is the best way

2068
01:45:53,880 --> 01:45:57,840
Speaker 1: to call it Super seventies sports. Ricky, It's Chris Brown

2069
01:45:57,920 --> 01:45:59,639
Speaker 1: with you here on one Bills Live. Thanks for joining

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01:45:59,720 --> 01:46:03,280
Speaker 1: us to Chris my pleasure man. Thanks for having me

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01:46:03,360 --> 01:46:06,760
Speaker 1: on Sure. So I gotta just I mean, I came

2072
01:46:06,840 --> 01:46:09,439
Speaker 1: across your Twitter page maybe a little over a year ago,

2073
01:46:10,479 --> 01:46:12,839
Speaker 1: just on a retweet of somebody else that I followed,

2074
01:46:12,960 --> 01:46:15,560
Speaker 1: and I can't remember what the first post was that

2075
01:46:15,600 --> 01:46:18,680
Speaker 1: I saw, but I just cracked up laughing, and I

2076
01:46:18,800 --> 01:46:21,760
Speaker 1: want to say it was something about satin starter jackets.

2077
01:46:22,400 --> 01:46:25,160
Speaker 1: You know that. I know I had one in nineteen eighties,

2078
01:46:25,680 --> 01:46:28,840
Speaker 1: and it's just it's I don't know, there's a lot

2079
01:46:28,880 --> 01:46:31,160
Speaker 1: of what you put out there that just goes right

2080
01:46:31,200 --> 01:46:32,960
Speaker 1: back to my childhood. And I know a lot of

2081
01:46:33,040 --> 01:46:35,160
Speaker 1: guys that are in their late thirties and early to

2082
01:46:35,240 --> 01:46:39,200
Speaker 1: mid forties. It's the same case. But I think the

2083
01:46:39,320 --> 01:46:42,120
Speaker 1: age range goes even further than that for the appeal

2084
01:46:43,240 --> 01:46:45,439
Speaker 1: that your audience has for what you kind of put

2085
01:46:45,479 --> 01:46:48,080
Speaker 1: out there. Because I know the host of this show,

2086
01:46:48,200 --> 01:46:50,479
Speaker 1: the regular host of this show, John Murphy, is pushing

2087
01:46:50,560 --> 01:46:53,000
Speaker 1: sixty and he still likes all the stuff that you

2088
01:46:53,080 --> 01:46:55,559
Speaker 1: got from like the early seventies, whether it's Jack Lambert,

2089
01:46:55,600 --> 01:46:58,880
Speaker 1: O J. Simpson or whoever else. How did this all

2090
01:46:59,479 --> 01:47:02,479
Speaker 1: come about? What is the genesis of super seventy sports?

2091
01:47:02,560 --> 01:47:08,080
Speaker 1: The Twitter page? Well, the genesis, I suppose was I

2092
01:47:08,240 --> 01:47:12,120
Speaker 1: wanted to entertain myself and I thought it was something

2093
01:47:12,200 --> 01:47:14,879
Speaker 1: that I would do for fun. I'm a college professor

2094
01:47:15,040 --> 01:47:18,840
Speaker 1: by trade, so, uh so I wanted to have a

2095
01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:21,400
Speaker 1: little fun. You know, I'm a sports fan. I love comedy,

2096
01:47:21,960 --> 01:47:24,280
Speaker 1: and I thought if I could merge my love of

2097
01:47:24,400 --> 01:47:28,400
Speaker 1: sports and my love of sports nostalgia with some humor,

2098
01:47:29,200 --> 01:47:32,920
Speaker 1: maybe at least I would have something that would give

2099
01:47:33,000 --> 01:47:36,559
Speaker 1: me a little pastime. And uh, it's really blown up

2100
01:47:36,560 --> 01:47:39,360
Speaker 1: a lot bigger than I could have ever imagined. Chris, right,

2101
01:47:39,439 --> 01:47:41,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I know you've got sponsors now, you do

2102
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Speaker 1: some stuff with Fanatics, which is a sports apparallelfitter, and

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Speaker 1: and I think it's not just sports that you kind

2104
01:47:50,400 --> 01:47:55,160
Speaker 1: of cover. You try to be pop culture. You mix in,

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Speaker 1: you know a little bit of I would say there's

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01:47:58,920 --> 01:48:02,800
Speaker 1: pop culture in there. There's just growing up being an

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Speaker 1: American kid in the seventies or eighties, you know. I

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Speaker 1: just think there's a lot of references that you tap

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01:48:08,360 --> 01:48:12,519
Speaker 1: into that, I think very instantly. You know, take guys,

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01:48:12,600 --> 01:48:14,519
Speaker 1: like I said, in their thirties and forties back to

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Speaker 1: being ten and twelve. I mean, was that the was

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Speaker 1: that the aim all along? Or you just kind of

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Speaker 1: satisfying yourself and it just happens to work for everybody

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Speaker 1: else too. Well, that's kind of what it's turned into.

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Speaker 1: I'll give you an honest answer to that question. Initially

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01:48:32,000 --> 01:48:35,479
Speaker 1: it was going to be all seventies and all sports,

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01:48:36,280 --> 01:48:40,040
Speaker 1: and I realized this time went on, that's will that's

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun. Why am I artificially, you know,

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Speaker 1: narrowing my scope to just that? So just looking for

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01:48:49,240 --> 01:48:52,479
Speaker 1: more material and more things to comment on. So at

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01:48:52,520 --> 01:48:54,880
Speaker 1: first I would I would throw a little pop culture

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01:48:54,920 --> 01:48:58,200
Speaker 1: in there. Then maybe I would post something from the

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01:48:58,320 --> 01:49:01,680
Speaker 1: eighties and people called me on it at first, you know,

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01:49:01,760 --> 01:49:04,680
Speaker 1: you kind of have to train the audience, and at

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01:49:04,720 --> 01:49:06,760
Speaker 1: first you get a lot of guys who are like, oh,

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Speaker 1: that's that's that's actually nineteen eighty one, you know, and

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01:49:09,720 --> 01:49:13,000
Speaker 1: I'm thinking to myself, Okay, I know, but uh, let

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Speaker 1: me play, let me play with some of the culture. Yeah,

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01:49:16,280 --> 01:49:20,720
Speaker 1: let me roll with this, yeah absolutely, And uh, fortunately

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01:49:20,840 --> 01:49:24,160
Speaker 1: for me, the pop culture stuff is proven to be

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Speaker 1: as popular, I think, as the as the sports material.

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01:49:28,240 --> 01:49:31,519
Speaker 1: And people let me dabble in the eighties and the

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01:49:31,760 --> 01:49:34,479
Speaker 1: sixties and the nineties a little bit when I want to.

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01:49:34,840 --> 01:49:39,679
Speaker 1: And You'll always tell people that our home base is sports,

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01:49:39,920 --> 01:49:43,280
Speaker 1: and our home base is the nineteen seventies, But I

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01:49:43,439 --> 01:49:45,240
Speaker 1: like to branch out from it. I think it keeps

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01:49:45,240 --> 01:49:48,479
Speaker 1: it a little bit fresher, right. And I just for

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01:49:48,560 --> 01:49:51,400
Speaker 1: our MSG viewers that are watching this on the simulcast,

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01:49:51,439 --> 01:49:53,639
Speaker 1: because we're also on w g R radio here in Buffalo,

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01:49:54,400 --> 01:49:56,519
Speaker 1: I just wanted to share a couple of the posts

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Speaker 1: with them, because I think what you do draw attention

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01:49:59,280 --> 01:50:02,599
Speaker 1: to the most sporting wise is how things just were

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01:50:03,000 --> 01:50:06,320
Speaker 1: flat out different for pro athletes in the seventies and

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01:50:06,400 --> 01:50:09,240
Speaker 1: eighties as opposed to now, where you know, people are

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01:50:09,280 --> 01:50:12,439
Speaker 1: so specialized in their sports. There's training twelve months a year.

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01:50:13,000 --> 01:50:15,320
Speaker 1: And so this first post that I'm going to put

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01:50:15,400 --> 01:50:19,639
Speaker 1: up on MSG is the one of Billy Smith, former

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01:50:19,720 --> 01:50:23,360
Speaker 1: Islanders goalie, in a lounge chair. Now he's in he's

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01:50:23,400 --> 01:50:27,120
Speaker 1: in full uniform, but he's sipping a drink and he's

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01:50:27,280 --> 01:50:29,960
Speaker 1: and he's kicked back and the post says back, when

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01:50:30,120 --> 01:50:34,880
Speaker 1: NHL training methods were a bit less rigorous. Do you

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01:50:35,000 --> 01:50:39,080
Speaker 1: take as much pleasure in how athletes back then, you know,

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01:50:39,320 --> 01:50:43,560
Speaker 1: offseason they're drinking beer and probably playing poker instead of

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01:50:43,600 --> 01:50:46,800
Speaker 1: training twelve months out of the year. Well, yeah, I

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01:50:46,880 --> 01:50:50,479
Speaker 1: mean spring training used to actually be for guys to

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01:50:50,560 --> 01:50:54,280
Speaker 1: get back into shape because the assumption was you take

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01:50:54,320 --> 01:50:56,760
Speaker 1: a few months off and you put on a little

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01:50:56,800 --> 01:51:00,200
Speaker 1: bit of weight, and you're you're not working out year

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01:51:00,360 --> 01:51:04,360
Speaker 1: round and you're not taking all kinds of nutritional supplements

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01:51:04,439 --> 01:51:09,439
Speaker 1: and working with specialists who keep you in tip top condition.

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01:51:09,479 --> 01:51:12,240
Speaker 1: You know, we didn't have the TB twelve method, uh

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01:51:12,600 --> 01:51:15,920
Speaker 1: back in those days, and so uh yeah, it's uh,

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Speaker 1: you know that was that was probably right before the

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01:51:18,160 --> 01:51:20,840
Speaker 1: season and you know Billy Billy had to he had to,

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Speaker 1: he had the ease back into things. You know, that

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01:51:23,320 --> 01:51:26,000
Speaker 1: was probably that was probably the first day there, you know,

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01:51:26,000 --> 01:51:29,200
Speaker 1: as they were getting started. But but yeah, absolutely, you

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Speaker 1: know guys are with the ten day DL Now in baseball,

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01:51:32,320 --> 01:51:35,240
Speaker 1: you got guys pulling muscles that I didn't even know

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01:51:35,360 --> 01:51:38,680
Speaker 1: we're muscles. You know, if you know you can you

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01:51:38,760 --> 01:51:42,240
Speaker 1: could almost sometimes be in too good a shape. And uh,

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01:51:42,280 --> 01:51:44,200
Speaker 1: I think maybe it was lou Panella who once said,

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01:51:44,240 --> 01:51:46,759
Speaker 1: you know, you got to have muscles to pull muscles,

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01:51:46,800 --> 01:51:50,000
Speaker 1: so he tended to be pretty durable for that reason.

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01:51:50,960 --> 01:51:53,400
Speaker 1: And then you also worked the dopp a little ganger

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01:51:53,720 --> 01:51:58,080
Speaker 1: angle an awful lot um, whether it's athletes currently with

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01:51:58,280 --> 01:52:01,320
Speaker 1: athletes from the past, but the one you had it

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01:52:01,400 --> 01:52:05,320
Speaker 1: might have been today or yesterday. With Peyton Manning going

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01:52:05,400 --> 01:52:09,640
Speaker 1: with the Steve Grogan doppelganger post that just showed up,

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01:52:10,080 --> 01:52:14,320
Speaker 1: you basically have an old Tops trading card of Steve Grogan.

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01:52:15,160 --> 01:52:19,719
Speaker 1: And you're right. I believe time travel is real because

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01:52:19,800 --> 01:52:23,240
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen Peyton Manning will grow a mustache and

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01:52:23,439 --> 01:52:26,519
Speaker 1: return to what is it the eighties? Is Steve Grogan?

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Speaker 1: I cannot believe that particular photo, how much Grogan looks

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01:52:31,320 --> 01:52:33,639
Speaker 1: like Peyton Manning. What do you just have a catalog

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01:52:33,720 --> 01:52:36,640
Speaker 1: your own trading cards that you roll through and you

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01:52:36,720 --> 01:52:39,680
Speaker 1: get sparked with these thoughts. How does that work? I?

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01:52:40,800 --> 01:52:42,800
Speaker 1: You know, I have a lot of things stored in

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01:52:42,960 --> 01:52:47,840
Speaker 1: my memory from decades of misspending all my leisure time

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01:52:47,920 --> 01:52:52,719
Speaker 1: on this dumb stuff. And then I scour I scour

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01:52:52,920 --> 01:52:57,559
Speaker 1: the nether regions of the Internet. Chriss so things come

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01:52:57,600 --> 01:53:00,759
Speaker 1: to me. But think about that Peyton Manning Steve Grogan connection.

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01:53:00,800 --> 01:53:03,040
Speaker 1: You know, Grogan had the neck role. Why do we

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01:53:03,120 --> 01:53:06,559
Speaker 1: know about twenty you know eighteen Peyton Manning, he's he's

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01:53:06,560 --> 01:53:09,439
Speaker 1: got the neck issues. Oh so, I you know, may

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01:53:09,439 --> 01:53:11,320
Speaker 1: be onto something there. You know, he may have found

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01:53:11,400 --> 01:53:16,519
Speaker 1: the delirium in you know. Yeah. Um. And then just

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01:53:16,720 --> 01:53:20,280
Speaker 1: to kind of uh provide and paint the picture on

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01:53:20,479 --> 01:53:25,040
Speaker 1: how you work pop culture in I saw the TV

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01:53:25,200 --> 01:53:28,240
Speaker 1: dinner post the other day and this was one that

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01:53:28,320 --> 01:53:30,800
Speaker 1: I sent to the co host of One Bill's Live,

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01:53:31,360 --> 01:53:34,080
Speaker 1: where you basically say, one great thing about the seventies

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01:53:34,200 --> 01:53:36,880
Speaker 1: is everyone pretty much eight like a hobo. You know.

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01:53:37,000 --> 01:53:39,160
Speaker 1: Dig into this and you can almost hear the train

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01:53:39,280 --> 01:53:42,439
Speaker 1: engine and it's an old Swanson TV dinner in the

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01:53:42,520 --> 01:53:47,000
Speaker 1: aluminum foil tray, and it's beans and francs. There's three

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01:53:47,120 --> 01:53:50,320
Speaker 1: hot dogs in there, swimming in beans, with like a

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01:53:50,439 --> 01:53:53,680
Speaker 1: side of potatoes O grotten and a brownie bake. And

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're not seeing that anywhere today, but I

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01:53:58,360 --> 01:54:02,160
Speaker 1: remember eating those. Oh yeah, it was. It was completely

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01:54:02,280 --> 01:54:07,880
Speaker 1: normal at the time, but in retrospect a little bit questionable.

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01:54:08,320 --> 01:54:11,679
Speaker 1: What was passing for meal time? For us in those days.

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01:54:11,880 --> 01:54:14,840
Speaker 1: I just you gotta laugh at it that we thought

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01:54:14,920 --> 01:54:17,240
Speaker 1: that was totally fine. Like I mean, I remember when

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01:54:17,320 --> 01:54:19,840
Speaker 1: Dad had to get dinner ready when mom was out

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01:54:20,000 --> 01:54:22,320
Speaker 1: for the night, or you know, it's some welcome wagon

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01:54:22,400 --> 01:54:26,040
Speaker 1: meeting and that's what we're eating, and uh, we were

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01:54:26,120 --> 01:54:29,200
Speaker 1: fine with it. And now people would just that's blasphemy.

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01:54:29,439 --> 01:54:33,080
Speaker 1: I mean, now, yeah, they're gonna they're gonna judge you

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01:54:33,160 --> 01:54:36,000
Speaker 1: as a parent now, right right. But yeah, back in

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01:54:36,080 --> 01:54:38,160
Speaker 1: you know, Dad, Dad puts that out for you in

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01:54:38,280 --> 01:54:41,400
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy seven, and you know that's just good parenting.

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01:54:41,600 --> 01:54:45,000
Speaker 1: You're just like, yeah, let's go um. And then I know,

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01:54:45,120 --> 01:54:47,280
Speaker 1: you make a lot of references to game shows. The

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01:54:47,400 --> 01:54:51,200
Speaker 1: Bob Barker post about making a ten foot put I

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01:54:51,280 --> 01:54:53,200
Speaker 1: mean that one was hilarious because you kind of got

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01:54:53,240 --> 01:54:55,640
Speaker 1: the set on, you know, the prices right there. And

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01:54:56,080 --> 01:54:58,560
Speaker 1: he usually would take the put I remember because my

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01:54:58,680 --> 01:55:00,840
Speaker 1: mom used to watch this show really just Lee, and

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01:55:00,920 --> 01:55:02,880
Speaker 1: he would always make he would always make the putt

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01:55:03,000 --> 01:55:06,200
Speaker 1: after the contestant and very often he would make it. Uh.

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01:55:06,520 --> 01:55:08,760
Speaker 1: You know, so your post, your post about how if

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01:55:08,760 --> 01:55:11,080
Speaker 1: you're ever dependent on somebody to drain a ten Footer

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01:55:11,520 --> 01:55:14,880
Speaker 1: on AstroTurf. You're calling Bob Barker. I thought was a

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01:55:14,920 --> 01:55:20,760
Speaker 1: great one too. Yeah, I'll take Nicholas or Tiger on grass,

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01:55:21,320 --> 01:55:25,000
Speaker 1: but you give me a dead solid, straight AstroTurf putt.

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01:55:25,040 --> 01:55:28,040
Speaker 1: And Bob Barker's like ninety five years old now I'm

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01:55:28,040 --> 01:55:32,640
Speaker 1: still calling him. I've never seen in my memory he

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01:55:32,760 --> 01:55:37,040
Speaker 1: never missed. I'm sure that he did, but in my memory,

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01:55:37,760 --> 01:55:41,800
Speaker 1: he never missed that putt. Right, And I was one

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01:55:41,840 --> 01:55:45,200
Speaker 1: of the kids who was not fortunate enough to have

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01:55:45,320 --> 01:55:49,040
Speaker 1: an Atari in my house. Um, we were. We were

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01:55:49,160 --> 01:55:53,600
Speaker 1: non cable, non video game you know, sorry, Mom and Dad.

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01:55:53,600 --> 01:55:57,120
Speaker 1: I was a little deprived. But I do remember going

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01:55:57,200 --> 01:56:00,640
Speaker 1: to my friend's house and seeing stacks of Atari games.

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01:56:00,680 --> 01:56:03,600
Speaker 1: You know, you had the cartridges in the boxes, and uh,

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01:56:03,840 --> 01:56:05,200
Speaker 1: you had a post. I think it was today or

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01:56:05,280 --> 01:56:08,280
Speaker 1: yesterday when you went over a friend's house and saw this.

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01:56:08,440 --> 01:56:11,200
Speaker 1: It was on and it's basically a stack of all

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Speaker 1: the old school Atari games. Is Berserk in there? I

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01:56:14,920 --> 01:56:17,080
Speaker 1: didn't even look, but Combat's in there. You got that

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01:56:17,200 --> 01:56:19,400
Speaker 1: with the game set, I believe if I remember right.

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01:56:19,840 --> 01:56:22,800
Speaker 1: And then you got Asteroids and a bunch of other games.

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01:56:22,840 --> 01:56:25,320
Speaker 1: I mean, these are just little. I don't know, it

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01:56:25,400 --> 01:56:27,400
Speaker 1: just takes you back right away to be your You

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01:56:27,920 --> 01:56:29,680
Speaker 1: look at the post like that, and you're ten years

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01:56:29,720 --> 01:56:32,600
Speaker 1: old again. You know, if you if you went over

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01:56:32,680 --> 01:56:35,640
Speaker 1: to a friend's house and they had lots of games

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01:56:35,800 --> 01:56:38,760
Speaker 1: that you didn't, you know, you could tolerate an annoying

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01:56:38,920 --> 01:56:42,880
Speaker 1: kid if his Atari game collection was good enough. You know,

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01:56:42,960 --> 01:56:45,560
Speaker 1: I'll hang around that kid. I'll stay in his wife

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01:56:46,160 --> 01:56:48,120
Speaker 1: if maybe I get to go over to his house

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01:56:48,200 --> 01:56:50,760
Speaker 1: and play a little Bersert from time to time. I

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01:56:50,840 --> 01:56:55,240
Speaker 1: know I did, because I didn't have the damn set. Yeah,

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01:56:55,320 --> 01:56:58,800
Speaker 1: it's you know, and those games were so bad. I

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01:56:58,920 --> 01:57:01,280
Speaker 1: remember them as being so much fun. But you look

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01:57:01,280 --> 01:57:05,720
Speaker 1: at the graphics today. On Atari basketball, for instance, the

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01:57:05,880 --> 01:57:10,720
Speaker 1: ball's a square, for God's sake, the play everything's a square.

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01:57:10,800 --> 01:57:14,720
Speaker 1: It's so bad. At the time, you know, what were

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01:57:14,760 --> 01:57:17,200
Speaker 1: we comparing it to. We were comparing it to not

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01:57:17,360 --> 01:57:20,160
Speaker 1: having video games at all, so it seemed pretty good.

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01:57:20,960 --> 01:57:23,680
Speaker 1: So where do you We're talking to Ricky Cobb on

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01:57:23,720 --> 01:57:26,520
Speaker 1: the Subway fresh Take Hotline, the founder of the super

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01:57:26,600 --> 01:57:30,400
Speaker 1: seventy sports Twitter page, a great follow at super seventy sports.

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01:57:31,120 --> 01:57:34,440
Speaker 1: And where do you see this going? Ricky? I mean,

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01:57:34,520 --> 01:57:38,760
Speaker 1: it's it's popular. Now you've got some sponsor support. Are

2277
01:57:38,840 --> 01:57:42,640
Speaker 1: you gonna expand this, morph this, change this, or tweak it?

2278
01:57:42,800 --> 01:57:45,080
Speaker 1: I mean, where where are you gonna go to keep

2279
01:57:45,160 --> 01:57:49,080
Speaker 1: this thing rolling like it has? Well? You know, I

2280
01:57:49,160 --> 01:57:52,560
Speaker 1: always feel like job one is to get up every

2281
01:57:52,680 --> 01:57:57,280
Speaker 1: day and make quality tweets and so, you know, not

2282
01:57:57,440 --> 01:58:02,120
Speaker 1: to give you the generic nuke laloushe uh you know

2283
01:58:02,280 --> 01:58:06,800
Speaker 1: answer that Crash Davis coached him to give. Uh, you know,

2284
01:58:06,840 --> 01:58:08,600
Speaker 1: it's kind of just take it one day at a time.

2285
01:58:08,680 --> 01:58:11,320
Speaker 1: And I figure, if I if I focus on getting

2286
01:58:11,360 --> 01:58:14,200
Speaker 1: the things right that have that have made this UH

2287
01:58:14,600 --> 01:58:18,920
Speaker 1: site as popular as it is, hopefully it'll continue to

2288
01:58:19,000 --> 01:58:22,360
Speaker 1: grow and and uh, you know, more opportunities will arise.

2289
01:58:22,560 --> 01:58:25,040
Speaker 1: I have some things in mind I would like to

2290
01:58:25,120 --> 01:58:29,320
Speaker 1: increase the social media UH presence going forward. I have

2291
01:58:29,400 --> 01:58:32,080
Speaker 1: a podcast that I'm that I'm pretty proud of as well.

2292
01:58:33,120 --> 01:58:37,200
Speaker 1: But uh, for me, job one is entertaining people with

2293
01:58:37,320 --> 01:58:40,320
Speaker 1: the tweets every day, and I figure, if I can

2294
01:58:40,840 --> 01:58:44,600
Speaker 1: focus well on that process, most of the other things

2295
01:58:44,720 --> 01:58:47,080
Speaker 1: will will take care of themselves. And how often does

2296
01:58:47,160 --> 01:58:50,520
Speaker 1: the podcast here and where can people find you on that? Well?

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01:58:50,600 --> 01:58:55,200
Speaker 1: The podcast can be accessed at super seventy sports dot com. Uh.

2298
01:58:55,520 --> 01:58:58,080
Speaker 1: We've had We've had a lot of great guests. Uh

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01:58:58,240 --> 01:59:02,200
Speaker 1: I've I've had Rob low on Dale, Earn Hurt Junior. Um.

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01:59:02,560 --> 01:59:05,800
Speaker 1: In addition to a lot of UH athletes that were

2301
01:59:06,000 --> 01:59:08,880
Speaker 1: that were big names in the seventies and eighties. I've

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01:59:08,920 --> 01:59:12,880
Speaker 1: had show Feistman on Dave Parker, Dale Murphy. UM. So

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01:59:13,120 --> 01:59:15,640
Speaker 1: you know, there's a there's quite a back catalog at

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01:59:15,680 --> 01:59:19,360
Speaker 1: this point. UM. It's not updated as frequently as I

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01:59:19,400 --> 01:59:22,200
Speaker 1: would like because this entire this entire thing is a

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01:59:22,280 --> 01:59:25,880
Speaker 1: one man mission. So I get the podcast up as

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01:59:25,920 --> 01:59:28,760
Speaker 1: I can. Normally there's a podcast posted about every couple

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01:59:28,840 --> 01:59:32,560
Speaker 1: of weeks. But UM, you know that's something that I

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01:59:32,640 --> 01:59:34,400
Speaker 1: take a great deal of pride in. It's a little

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01:59:34,440 --> 01:59:38,960
Speaker 1: bit different than the UH Twitter site in that it's

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01:59:39,000 --> 01:59:41,200
Speaker 1: a it's a little bit less comedy based and a

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01:59:41,240 --> 01:59:46,400
Speaker 1: little more uh in depth sports conversation. Uh you know,

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Speaker 1: And I think that's another thing that's important to me,

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Speaker 1: is to uh you know, establish at least for my

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01:59:52,880 --> 01:59:55,520
Speaker 1: own edification that you know that I'm not a one

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01:59:55,600 --> 01:59:58,840
Speaker 1: trick pony. Uh. We we can we can do some

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01:59:58,960 --> 02:00:01,240
Speaker 1: other things. Besides it's uh you know, worked within the

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02:00:01,360 --> 02:00:06,040
Speaker 1: confines of uh two eighty characters or whatever it is

2319
02:00:06,120 --> 02:00:09,480
Speaker 1: that Twitter gives you. But but yeah, it's the whole

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02:00:09,520 --> 02:00:12,120
Speaker 1: thing has really been a labor of love, Chris, and uh,

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02:00:12,400 --> 02:00:14,880
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's one of those things that I

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02:00:15,440 --> 02:00:21,120
Speaker 1: started it just for fun. It's it's thankfully grown into

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02:00:21,200 --> 02:00:23,520
Speaker 1: something bigger than that. And I hope that the best

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Speaker 1: is still yet to come. Well, I mean you've already

2325
02:00:26,280 --> 02:00:29,320
Speaker 1: kind of started your own lingo too. I mean, I

2326
02:00:29,440 --> 02:00:32,520
Speaker 1: think bad asseriy is something that you can probably stay

2327
02:00:32,600 --> 02:00:35,720
Speaker 1: claimed to. Like you know, you call Jack Lambert Dave

2328
02:00:35,800 --> 02:00:39,680
Speaker 1: Parker smoking in the dugout. I mean, that is bad assury.

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02:00:39,760 --> 02:00:42,440
Speaker 1: I guess is we would, for lack of a better term,

2330
02:00:42,520 --> 02:00:46,760
Speaker 1: so why not call it that? Um? Do you do

2331
02:00:46,920 --> 02:00:50,600
Speaker 1: you when you think about posting each day? I mean,

2332
02:00:50,720 --> 02:00:53,400
Speaker 1: are you pretty much just localized like where you're living

2333
02:00:53,480 --> 02:00:55,440
Speaker 1: right now, or do you get out because it looks

2334
02:00:55,480 --> 02:01:00,640
Speaker 1: like you're a baseball fan maybe first, Um, just with

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02:01:00,720 --> 02:01:02,920
Speaker 1: a lot of the tweets that you put out. So

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02:01:04,320 --> 02:01:06,400
Speaker 1: I mean not that you don't go into football or

2337
02:01:06,520 --> 02:01:09,480
Speaker 1: other sports, but it just seems like baseball is kind

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02:01:09,520 --> 02:01:11,760
Speaker 1: of number one on the list. I mean, you can

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02:01:11,800 --> 02:01:13,440
Speaker 1: tell me if I'm wrong, But it just seems like

2340
02:01:13,520 --> 02:01:16,160
Speaker 1: there's a lot of tie ins with baseball and baseball cards.

2341
02:01:16,160 --> 02:01:17,960
Speaker 1: And I was a big collector when I was a teenager.

2342
02:01:18,120 --> 02:01:22,200
Speaker 1: So I'm just kind of curious how you decide when

2343
02:01:22,240 --> 02:01:24,200
Speaker 1: you get up in the morning, you know what's going

2344
02:01:24,280 --> 02:01:28,280
Speaker 1: to be the soup. Djure, you know, a lot of

2345
02:01:28,360 --> 02:01:31,600
Speaker 1: it is my mood, a lot of it is the

2346
02:01:32,000 --> 02:01:36,200
Speaker 1: content that I may have happened to have mined that

2347
02:01:36,360 --> 02:01:40,200
Speaker 1: particular day or that particular week. But but you would

2348
02:01:40,240 --> 02:01:45,440
Speaker 1: be accurate. Baseball has always been my first love, and

2349
02:01:45,880 --> 02:01:50,320
Speaker 1: in fact, I'm actually currently working on a book about

2350
02:01:50,440 --> 02:01:53,840
Speaker 1: baseball in the nineteen seventies, and in oral history, I've

2351
02:01:53,880 --> 02:01:57,400
Speaker 1: talked to about one hundred former players from the nineteen seventies,

2352
02:01:57,480 --> 02:02:01,080
Speaker 1: So that's something that I'm just in the process of

2353
02:02:01,760 --> 02:02:06,640
Speaker 1: starting to put pen to paper and get that book together.

2354
02:02:06,760 --> 02:02:10,440
Speaker 1: Hopefully that's something that will be coming out from my

2355
02:02:10,560 --> 02:02:14,600
Speaker 1: audience in the next year or two. But absolutely, baseball's

2356
02:02:14,640 --> 02:02:19,200
Speaker 1: my first love, and I definitely tried to take a

2357
02:02:19,280 --> 02:02:22,480
Speaker 1: global approach to these things. I was. I was born

2358
02:02:22,520 --> 02:02:26,160
Speaker 1: and raised in Kentucky, and I think the nearest Major

2359
02:02:26,280 --> 02:02:29,120
Speaker 1: League team to me was was the Cincinnati Reds. They

2360
02:02:29,160 --> 02:02:31,360
Speaker 1: were probably three or probably three or three and a

2361
02:02:31,360 --> 02:02:34,120
Speaker 1: half hours away, So I couldn't ask for better. In

2362
02:02:34,160 --> 02:02:37,240
Speaker 1: the seventies though, you couldn't have asked for better, although

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02:02:37,640 --> 02:02:42,800
Speaker 1: I came of awareness really around seventy eight, so that

2364
02:02:42,960 --> 02:02:46,280
Speaker 1: they were basically gutting it at that time. But but

2365
02:02:46,440 --> 02:02:48,440
Speaker 1: I just became a fan of the game, you know,

2366
02:02:48,560 --> 02:02:52,360
Speaker 1: I was. I was as interested in the Texas Rangers

2367
02:02:52,760 --> 02:02:56,040
Speaker 1: as the Cincinnati Reds, as the Seattle Mariners, as the

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02:02:56,120 --> 02:02:59,160
Speaker 1: New York Yankees. And I think the fact that I

2369
02:02:59,280 --> 02:03:02,360
Speaker 1: was sort of this odd duck, uh a little kid

2370
02:03:02,560 --> 02:03:06,880
Speaker 1: that was interested really in all the major league teams. Um.

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02:03:07,200 --> 02:03:09,920
Speaker 1: I think that sort of knowledge base that I was

2372
02:03:10,040 --> 02:03:13,400
Speaker 1: building from from having that has really kind of paid

2373
02:03:13,480 --> 02:03:17,920
Speaker 1: off and in this endeavor because I you know, I again,

2374
02:03:17,960 --> 02:03:20,000
Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you where my car keys are, but

2375
02:03:20,600 --> 02:03:23,920
Speaker 1: but I know a lot of stuff about Rupert Rupert Jones.

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02:03:24,280 --> 02:03:29,920
Speaker 1: You know, so Jones? Wow, Okay, center fielder, Rangers, Yankees?

2377
02:03:30,760 --> 02:03:32,520
Speaker 1: Who else? Did he play for a bunch of other teams?

2378
02:03:32,560 --> 02:03:38,800
Speaker 1: San Diego? Yeah. But the fact that I've that I've

2379
02:03:38,840 --> 02:03:43,160
Speaker 1: found a way to uh gain some some sort of

2380
02:03:44,280 --> 02:03:49,080
Speaker 1: audience or appreciation for uh what is for the most part,

2381
02:03:49,440 --> 02:03:53,920
Speaker 1: and encyclopedia of useless knowledge, uh is kind of gratifying. Yeah,

2382
02:03:54,040 --> 02:03:56,880
Speaker 1: it's certainly paying off for you now. Ricky Cobb from

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02:03:57,000 --> 02:04:00,800
Speaker 1: Super seventies Sports, Uh, thanks very very much for your time.

2384
02:04:00,840 --> 02:04:04,360
Speaker 1: It was fun chatting with you. I'm telling you we

2385
02:04:04,440 --> 02:04:07,480
Speaker 1: pass your tweets back and forth on text or on

2386
02:04:07,680 --> 02:04:10,440
Speaker 1: email in the office here all the time, just for

2387
02:04:10,520 --> 02:04:13,480
Speaker 1: a quick laugh on a long day. So we appreciate

2388
02:04:13,560 --> 02:04:16,560
Speaker 1: the content you provide and let us know when that

2389
02:04:16,600 --> 02:04:19,920
Speaker 1: book comes out, we'd be happy to have you on again. Well, Chris,

2390
02:04:20,200 --> 02:04:22,120
Speaker 1: thank you so much for having me on. Thank you

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02:04:22,200 --> 02:04:25,720
Speaker 1: for your kind words, and go. Bill's all right, take care, Ricky.

2392
02:04:25,800 --> 02:04:29,200
Speaker 1: That's Ricky Cobb from at Super seventies Sports. If you

2393
02:04:29,360 --> 02:04:31,440
Speaker 1: are a kid of the seventies or eighties and you

2394
02:04:31,520 --> 02:04:33,280
Speaker 1: just want a good laugh every once in a while,

2395
02:04:33,520 --> 02:04:37,000
Speaker 1: this is a great follow on Twitter, harmless stuff that'll

2396
02:04:37,000 --> 02:04:38,880
Speaker 1: take you back to be in ten twelve years old

2397
02:04:39,000 --> 02:04:44,640
Speaker 1: all over again, whether it's pop culture, TV, dinners, baseball, football.

2398
02:04:45,080 --> 02:04:48,360
Speaker 1: He covers everything. I mean, we remember remember those Econo

2399
02:04:48,440 --> 02:04:51,480
Speaker 1: line vans with the airbrush paintings on the side. He

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02:04:51,560 --> 02:04:54,760
Speaker 1: had a picture, a picture of a baseball player. I

2401
02:04:54,800 --> 02:04:56,960
Speaker 1: want to say it was amos Otis from the Kansas

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02:04:57,000 --> 02:05:00,879
Speaker 1: City Royals. He's standing in front of a purple Econo

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02:05:01,000 --> 02:05:05,480
Speaker 1: line van with some kind of rainbow and a horse

2404
02:05:06,040 --> 02:05:09,760
Speaker 1: on its hind legs. Just something ridiculous. But I can

2405
02:05:09,840 --> 02:05:13,840
Speaker 1: totally remember guys driving around in pro athletes back then

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02:05:14,280 --> 02:05:16,920
Speaker 1: showing off their Econo line van. And I do want

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02:05:16,960 --> 02:05:20,000
Speaker 1: to leave you with one more Twitter post from Super

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02:05:20,080 --> 02:05:22,680
Speaker 1: seventy Sports before we go to break here. This is

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02:05:22,760 --> 02:05:25,560
Speaker 1: just to give you an idea on how wide ranging

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02:05:26,560 --> 02:05:31,040
Speaker 1: Ricky's content is on Super seventy Sports. He's not doing

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02:05:31,080 --> 02:05:33,760
Speaker 1: any sports in this post at all. He is pulling

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02:05:33,880 --> 02:05:39,520
Speaker 1: together a ranking bass Christmas special called a Year Without

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02:05:39,520 --> 02:05:42,360
Speaker 1: a Santa Claus and Elton John in the same post.

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02:05:42,440 --> 02:05:44,600
Speaker 1: There's not many people that can pull this off, folks,

2415
02:05:44,960 --> 02:05:47,840
Speaker 1: But he says, look, I'm not saying Elton John is

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02:05:47,960 --> 02:05:51,680
Speaker 1: the heat miser. I'm just saying they've never been seen together.

2417
02:05:52,120 --> 02:05:54,080
Speaker 1: And he's got a picked for our radio listeners. He's

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02:05:54,080 --> 02:05:56,400
Speaker 1: got a picture of Elton John playing the piano, and

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02:05:56,440 --> 02:05:58,680
Speaker 1: he's got a rainbow colored jacket on and his hair

2420
02:05:58,840 --> 02:06:01,520
Speaker 1: is kind of frosted tip and stick it up a

2421
02:06:01,560 --> 02:06:03,960
Speaker 1: little bit. And if anybody remembers a year without a

2422
02:06:04,000 --> 02:06:07,800
Speaker 1: Santa clause, that's what the heat miser and the freeze miser,

2423
02:06:07,880 --> 02:06:12,400
Speaker 1: and the resemblance is uncanny between the two. But these

2424
02:06:12,440 --> 02:06:14,880
Speaker 1: are the things that he comes up with that just

2425
02:06:15,040 --> 02:06:17,680
Speaker 1: makes you laugh. And on a long day at work,

2426
02:06:18,200 --> 02:06:20,720
Speaker 1: it's just a nice getaway for like two or three minutes.

2427
02:06:20,760 --> 02:06:24,280
Speaker 1: Send it to your coworker, crack them up to really

2428
02:06:24,320 --> 02:06:26,280
Speaker 1: an entertaining site. So I wanted to get Ricky on

2429
02:06:26,400 --> 02:06:28,400
Speaker 1: and just talk to him and find out where all

2430
02:06:28,440 --> 02:06:32,080
Speaker 1: of this creativity came from in the first place. So

2431
02:06:32,200 --> 02:06:34,200
Speaker 1: good to have him up. We're gonna take a break,

2432
02:06:34,240 --> 02:06:36,880
Speaker 1: but when we come back, we've got true and false

2433
02:06:36,960 --> 02:06:39,440
Speaker 1: with some NFL notes in there, So come back and

2434
02:06:39,560 --> 02:06:43,320
Speaker 1: join us. Because there could be an NFL referee crisis

2435
02:06:43,880 --> 02:06:46,320
Speaker 1: going on in the league. We'll talk about that on

2436
02:06:46,440 --> 02:06:48,800
Speaker 1: the other side. Here it's One Bills Live from One

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02:06:48,840 --> 02:07:03,960
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Chris Brown back

2438
02:07:04,000 --> 02:07:06,840
Speaker 1: with you on One Bills Live Monday edition. John Murphy

2439
02:07:06,920 --> 02:07:12,240
Speaker 1: on vacation this week. Steve Tasker somewhere else, but he

2440
02:07:12,320 --> 02:07:14,360
Speaker 1: will be back tomorrow to join me here on the

2441
02:07:14,440 --> 02:07:19,200
Speaker 1: show for the Tuesday edition of One Bills Live. We're

2442
02:07:19,280 --> 02:07:21,280
Speaker 1: still taking your phone calls at eight oh three oh

2443
02:07:21,360 --> 02:07:24,160
Speaker 1: five fifty if you want to chime in on Lashawn

2444
02:07:24,320 --> 02:07:28,720
Speaker 1: McCoy's Hall of Fame potential as it stands right now,

2445
02:07:29,040 --> 02:07:32,960
Speaker 1: just to shade over ten thousand career rushing yards, six

2446
02:07:33,080 --> 02:07:36,920
Speaker 1: Pro Bowls on his resume, along with two AP First

2447
02:07:37,000 --> 02:07:41,720
Speaker 1: Team All Pro nods, and you know, I think he's

2448
02:07:41,720 --> 02:07:44,480
Speaker 1: got a pretty good body of work already. But our

2449
02:07:44,520 --> 02:07:46,960
Speaker 1: Twitter poll today was what do you think of his

2450
02:07:47,080 --> 02:07:50,200
Speaker 1: potential as a Hall of Famer? Whether he needs to

2451
02:07:50,240 --> 02:07:52,080
Speaker 1: get to twelve thousand to get in, is he a

2452
02:07:52,120 --> 02:07:54,560
Speaker 1: fifty fifty shot right now? Does he need a Super

2453
02:07:54,600 --> 02:07:57,640
Speaker 1: Bowl victory to kind of cement his status, or will

2454
02:07:57,680 --> 02:08:00,080
Speaker 1: he get in now on his current credentials just on

2455
02:08:00,280 --> 02:08:02,840
Speaker 1: the first ballot, So feel free to weigh in either

2456
02:08:02,960 --> 02:08:06,000
Speaker 1: on Twitter because I'll be reading from the tweet sheet

2457
02:08:06,040 --> 02:08:09,160
Speaker 1: in a little while here and also on the phone

2458
02:08:09,200 --> 02:08:13,480
Speaker 1: lines eight O three five fifty time now though for

2459
02:08:13,680 --> 02:08:16,320
Speaker 1: true false, And we've got a couple of issues here

2460
02:08:16,520 --> 02:08:20,000
Speaker 1: NFL related that we want to cover with you guys,

2461
02:08:20,680 --> 02:08:24,360
Speaker 1: and the first one is true or false the NFL

2462
02:08:25,240 --> 02:08:30,320
Speaker 1: is having a referee crisis. Now, we mentioned this late

2463
02:08:30,440 --> 02:08:32,960
Speaker 1: last week. Murf mentioned this on the show. I think

2464
02:08:32,960 --> 02:08:37,040
Speaker 1: it was Thursday or Friday, that Terry mcaulay was not

2465
02:08:37,200 --> 02:08:42,200
Speaker 1: coming back next year. He was essentially put out to

2466
02:08:42,360 --> 02:08:46,480
Speaker 1: pasture to a certain degree after being a head official

2467
02:08:46,600 --> 02:08:49,680
Speaker 1: for the better part of I want to definitely more

2468
02:08:49,720 --> 02:08:54,680
Speaker 1: than twenty years, maybe even longer than that. But over

2469
02:08:54,760 --> 02:09:00,480
Speaker 1: the weekend we're up to four now a veteran officials.

2470
02:09:00,720 --> 02:09:06,080
Speaker 1: So Terry mcaulay was kind of encouraged to retire. Ed

2471
02:09:06,200 --> 02:09:08,520
Speaker 1: Hockeyley retired of his own volition at the end of

2472
02:09:08,600 --> 02:09:13,320
Speaker 1: last season, you know, mister Bicep's classic over officiator, and

2473
02:09:13,400 --> 02:09:16,560
Speaker 1: then Jeff Triplett, another head official, also retired. And then

2474
02:09:16,640 --> 02:09:20,360
Speaker 1: over the weekend the guy that did the last Super

2475
02:09:20,400 --> 02:09:25,839
Speaker 1: Bowl jeans terator who also is a college basketball official

2476
02:09:26,040 --> 02:09:28,960
Speaker 1: in the Big Ten Conference and a pretty good one,

2477
02:09:30,200 --> 02:09:35,760
Speaker 1: he announced he's retiring. So it's four departures in the

2478
02:09:35,840 --> 02:09:40,040
Speaker 1: span of just a few months. And granted, officials did

2479
02:09:40,720 --> 02:09:45,520
Speaker 1: come under a lot of fire last year, especially after

2480
02:09:45,560 --> 02:09:48,280
Speaker 1: a couple of key calls that went the wrong way

2481
02:09:48,520 --> 02:09:52,440
Speaker 1: upon review, and we all know that Dean Blandino who

2482
02:09:52,520 --> 02:09:54,919
Speaker 1: used to be the head of officiating at the NFL offices,

2483
02:09:54,960 --> 02:09:59,640
Speaker 1: he left, and Al Riveron is head of officiating now

2484
02:10:00,360 --> 02:10:03,680
Speaker 1: for the National Football League. But each of those refs

2485
02:10:03,760 --> 02:10:09,200
Speaker 1: had fifteen to twenty eight years of experience. So while

2486
02:10:09,280 --> 02:10:12,520
Speaker 1: I totally respect the premise that people want younger refs

2487
02:10:12,560 --> 02:10:14,320
Speaker 1: who can keep up with the game and get up

2488
02:10:14,320 --> 02:10:17,080
Speaker 1: and down the field a little bit faster, a lack

2489
02:10:17,120 --> 02:10:20,880
Speaker 1: of experience at the head official position, especially with a

2490
02:10:20,960 --> 02:10:23,400
Speaker 1: whole new set of new rules coming in this year.

2491
02:10:25,640 --> 02:10:28,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go true here and say we've got a

2492
02:10:28,320 --> 02:10:33,200
Speaker 1: referee crisis, because if you think you have problems with

2493
02:10:33,800 --> 02:10:36,040
Speaker 1: guys like the problem I had with that Hockeyley was

2494
02:10:36,080 --> 02:10:39,040
Speaker 1: he over officiated games. His crew threw too many flags.

2495
02:10:39,080 --> 02:10:41,600
Speaker 1: They would average about twenty to twenty two flags a game,

2496
02:10:42,000 --> 02:10:45,800
Speaker 1: which is high sterator. Though I thought was one of

2497
02:10:45,840 --> 02:10:50,080
Speaker 1: the better guys in the business, and you know Apps

2498
02:10:50,160 --> 02:10:52,520
Speaker 1: and him, I think that's probably the biggest loss of

2499
02:10:52,600 --> 02:10:58,440
Speaker 1: these four. And I think with younger, less experienced officials,

2500
02:11:00,120 --> 02:11:04,080
Speaker 1: you're gonna run the risk of having more calls that

2501
02:11:04,200 --> 02:11:06,560
Speaker 1: are going to tick off fans. So I will say

2502
02:11:06,680 --> 02:11:10,280
Speaker 1: true on whether the NFL is having a referee crisis,

2503
02:11:10,320 --> 02:11:12,160
Speaker 1: because four in the span of three or four months.

2504
02:11:14,160 --> 02:11:17,680
Speaker 1: I'll ring the alarm bell. I'll say it number two

2505
02:11:17,840 --> 02:11:21,600
Speaker 1: for true False presented by Yancy's Fancy New York's Artists

2506
02:11:21,600 --> 02:11:26,000
Speaker 1: and Cheese. Patriots have the top receiving group in the NFL.

2507
02:11:26,240 --> 02:11:31,520
Speaker 1: Come on with this, Come on with this, I mean

2508
02:11:32,440 --> 02:11:36,640
Speaker 1: roster turnover. A Mendola is gone. Edelman's coming back from

2509
02:11:36,640 --> 02:11:40,760
Speaker 1: an acl and that's if his appeal today is successful,

2510
02:11:40,800 --> 02:11:43,120
Speaker 1: because he's got a four game suspension staring at him

2511
02:11:43,120 --> 02:11:46,360
Speaker 1: in the face. Gronk was kind of wishy washy on

2512
02:11:46,440 --> 02:11:50,600
Speaker 1: whether he still wanted to play. You've got Malcolm Mitchell

2513
02:11:50,680 --> 02:11:52,440
Speaker 1: saying I don't know if I'm going to be ready

2514
02:11:52,520 --> 02:11:55,760
Speaker 1: by training camp. Philip door said and Kenny Britt were

2515
02:11:55,800 --> 02:11:59,200
Speaker 1: two journeymen, veteran add ons who really haven't done much

2516
02:11:59,240 --> 02:12:01,880
Speaker 1: of anything in that passing attack in the one year

2517
02:12:01,920 --> 02:12:06,120
Speaker 1: that they've been there. They've also got Quarterel Patterson, who,

2518
02:12:06,680 --> 02:12:09,600
Speaker 1: if memory serves, came from Oakland in a trade. I

2519
02:12:09,720 --> 02:12:12,960
Speaker 1: want to say, I don't have all the offseason acquisitions

2520
02:12:13,360 --> 02:12:16,000
Speaker 1: committed to memory for the Patriots. And then obviously they

2521
02:12:16,040 --> 02:12:18,640
Speaker 1: signed the former Bill Jordan Matthews who is going to

2522
02:12:18,680 --> 02:12:22,680
Speaker 1: probably be a possession receiver in the slot, one of

2523
02:12:22,720 --> 02:12:26,240
Speaker 1: the best in the NFL. I think the only reason

2524
02:12:26,320 --> 02:12:29,040
Speaker 1: they're getting that consideration. Oh and I forgot Chris Hogan.

2525
02:12:29,360 --> 02:12:32,760
Speaker 1: The only reason I think they're even getting consideration is

2526
02:12:32,800 --> 02:12:36,840
Speaker 1: because of who the quarterback is. Right, So don't call

2527
02:12:36,880 --> 02:12:39,240
Speaker 1: it the best receiving group if the receiving group is

2528
02:12:39,280 --> 02:12:41,760
Speaker 1: made good by virtue of the fact that they have

2529
02:12:41,880 --> 02:12:44,600
Speaker 1: one of the best quarterbacks ever. I mean, you want

2530
02:12:44,600 --> 02:12:47,440
Speaker 1: to stack up talent for talent at receiver, I think

2531
02:12:47,480 --> 02:12:50,240
Speaker 1: you can do a lot better than the Patriots. So

2532
02:12:50,400 --> 02:12:52,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say false there. That's false for me. And

2533
02:12:52,960 --> 02:12:54,800
Speaker 1: I'm not even going to give you examples of better

2534
02:12:54,880 --> 02:12:58,960
Speaker 1: receiving corps because I just think it's not the best

2535
02:12:59,040 --> 02:13:01,920
Speaker 1: and that's all I need to state. So false for

2536
02:13:02,040 --> 02:13:03,520
Speaker 1: me there, Man, Could you tell where I was going

2537
02:13:03,600 --> 02:13:05,240
Speaker 1: with the Patriots on that one? Come on, what are

2538
02:13:05,280 --> 02:13:08,800
Speaker 1: we doing? All right? Number three? True? False? Colts will

2539
02:13:08,880 --> 02:13:15,720
Speaker 1: make the playoffs in twenty eighteen. You know, I like

2540
02:13:15,880 --> 02:13:18,560
Speaker 1: Frank Reich an awful lot. I think he's going to

2541
02:13:18,640 --> 02:13:21,520
Speaker 1: be a very good head coach in this league. I

2542
02:13:21,680 --> 02:13:26,360
Speaker 1: think he is very progressive with offensive schemes, as evidenced

2543
02:13:26,400 --> 02:13:29,480
Speaker 1: by the work he did with Doug Peterson, the head

2544
02:13:29,520 --> 02:13:33,400
Speaker 1: coach in Philadelphia last year when he was the OC

2545
02:13:33,800 --> 02:13:36,240
Speaker 1: or the quarterbacks coach. He really wasn't the OC. Peterson

2546
02:13:36,320 --> 02:13:39,760
Speaker 1: was calling the plays. But I think what they did

2547
02:13:39,880 --> 02:13:43,440
Speaker 1: and the way they transitioned from Carson Wentz when he

2548
02:13:43,480 --> 02:13:45,320
Speaker 1: went out of the lineup to Nick Foles, who does

2549
02:13:45,440 --> 02:13:49,280
Speaker 1: not possess the same skill set, was a work of genius.

2550
02:13:49,360 --> 02:13:51,400
Speaker 1: And so I do think Frank will be a successful

2551
02:13:51,440 --> 02:13:57,280
Speaker 1: head coach in Indianapolis in time, and that I think

2552
02:13:57,360 --> 02:13:59,320
Speaker 1: Chris Ballad is a GM has done a nice job

2553
02:14:00,440 --> 02:14:06,640
Speaker 1: to fortify that roster with better NFL caliber talent, their

2554
02:14:06,680 --> 02:14:10,960
Speaker 1: first round pick, Quenton Nelson being number one. But I

2555
02:14:11,040 --> 02:14:14,720
Speaker 1: think there are still too many questions surrounding Andrew Luck

2556
02:14:15,320 --> 02:14:17,880
Speaker 1: and how healthy he can be when he takes his

2557
02:14:18,000 --> 02:14:20,160
Speaker 1: first big shot. Is this guy going to be able

2558
02:14:20,600 --> 02:14:23,040
Speaker 1: to get back up and still be able to deliver

2559
02:14:23,120 --> 02:14:28,400
Speaker 1: the football like he always did? The young talent on

2560
02:14:28,440 --> 02:14:30,800
Speaker 1: the offensive line, there's talent there, but a lot of

2561
02:14:30,840 --> 02:14:35,160
Speaker 1: it has to come together, mold together, meld together, play

2562
02:14:35,200 --> 02:14:39,680
Speaker 1: as one. And I got news for you. The AFC

2563
02:14:39,920 --> 02:14:44,480
Speaker 1: South is suddenly a pretty tough division, and you've got

2564
02:14:44,600 --> 02:14:51,000
Speaker 1: other teams that I believe are further along Houston and Jacksonville,

2565
02:14:51,080 --> 02:14:55,920
Speaker 1: most notably in their development into a playoff contender, than

2566
02:14:56,000 --> 02:14:58,280
Speaker 1: where the Colts are right now. So I'm gonna say

2567
02:14:58,320 --> 02:15:00,760
Speaker 1: false here. Colts are not going to be playoff team.

2568
02:15:01,840 --> 02:15:04,680
Speaker 1: I think Andrew Luck will have to play out of

2569
02:15:04,720 --> 02:15:07,400
Speaker 1: his mind and have the best season ever because I

2570
02:15:07,480 --> 02:15:09,480
Speaker 1: still think there are a good number of holes on

2571
02:15:09,560 --> 02:15:11,800
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball. I don't see them

2572
02:15:11,880 --> 02:15:16,360
Speaker 1: stopping people with any great regularity, and I just think

2573
02:15:16,440 --> 02:15:19,400
Speaker 1: Houston and Jacksonville are two teams that are better than

2574
02:15:19,480 --> 02:15:22,440
Speaker 1: them right now in their own division. So they're not

2575
02:15:22,560 --> 02:15:24,760
Speaker 1: finishing first or second in their division. I don't think

2576
02:15:24,800 --> 02:15:27,320
Speaker 1: they have any hope for an AFC wild card, So

2577
02:15:27,400 --> 02:15:32,280
Speaker 1: that's false for me. Last one true false. Drew Brees

2578
02:15:32,600 --> 02:15:37,760
Speaker 1: deserves the passing record. Okay, So Drew Brees is I

2579
02:15:37,920 --> 02:15:42,520
Speaker 1: think about fourteen hundred yards away from eclipsing Peyton Manning's

2580
02:15:43,040 --> 02:15:47,400
Speaker 1: NFL all time passing yardage mark, and they're projecting that

2581
02:15:47,560 --> 02:15:51,240
Speaker 1: he should reach that by about weeks six or seven

2582
02:15:51,440 --> 02:15:54,600
Speaker 1: of the twenty eighteen season. As he quarterbacks the Saints

2583
02:15:54,640 --> 02:16:00,400
Speaker 1: for another year. I mean, obviously he's going to get it.

2584
02:16:01,160 --> 02:16:03,920
Speaker 1: The question here is does he deserve it? True or false?

2585
02:16:04,480 --> 02:16:06,200
Speaker 1: I think he does deserve it, so I am going

2586
02:16:06,280 --> 02:16:09,600
Speaker 1: to say true. And here's why. You want to talk

2587
02:16:09,640 --> 02:16:14,680
Speaker 1: about prolific passing. Everybody thinks of Dan Marino naturally, everybody

2588
02:16:14,720 --> 02:16:18,120
Speaker 1: thinks of Brett Farve, and everybody thinks of Peyton Manning,

2589
02:16:18,240 --> 02:16:20,879
Speaker 1: guys that have really put up a ton of yardage

2590
02:16:20,920 --> 02:16:24,720
Speaker 1: in their time in the league. And I totally get it.

2591
02:16:25,440 --> 02:16:30,680
Speaker 1: But you want to talk about standing apart. I think

2592
02:16:30,760 --> 02:16:35,720
Speaker 1: Drew Brees stands apart when it comes to putting prolific

2593
02:16:35,920 --> 02:16:39,720
Speaker 1: seasons together in the passing yardage mark. And here's why.

2594
02:16:41,360 --> 02:16:45,280
Speaker 1: In the history of the NFL. There have been nine

2595
02:16:46,440 --> 02:16:51,240
Speaker 1: five thousand yard passing seasons, nine total in the history

2596
02:16:51,879 --> 02:16:57,840
Speaker 1: of the NFL. Drew Brees has five of them. Five

2597
02:16:57,920 --> 02:17:01,080
Speaker 1: of the nine five thousand yard passing seasons. I mean,

2598
02:17:01,920 --> 02:17:05,400
Speaker 1: does anybody deserve the passing yardage mark more than this guy?

2599
02:17:06,240 --> 02:17:10,000
Speaker 1: I'd be very hard pressed to say yes. Peyton Manning has.

2600
02:17:10,280 --> 02:17:13,120
Speaker 1: So you say, who has the other four? Peyton Manning

2601
02:17:13,240 --> 02:17:15,840
Speaker 1: has one of them, which is also the all time

2602
02:17:16,120 --> 02:17:20,720
Speaker 1: single season mark five thousand four hundred seventy seven passing yards.

2603
02:17:20,760 --> 02:17:23,000
Speaker 1: That was his two thirteen season in Denver when he

2604
02:17:23,040 --> 02:17:27,040
Speaker 1: threw those fifty five touchdowns against only ten interceptions. Drew

2605
02:17:27,120 --> 02:17:31,720
Speaker 1: Brees is second one one yard shy five thousand, four

2606
02:17:31,800 --> 02:17:34,440
Speaker 1: hundred seventy six yards, and that was in two thousand

2607
02:17:34,440 --> 02:17:38,640
Speaker 1: and eleven. Brady is in there at three, and then

2608
02:17:38,720 --> 02:17:41,480
Speaker 1: Marino has one at seven, and Matthew Stafford is the

2609
02:17:41,520 --> 02:17:48,600
Speaker 1: other quarterback with five thousand passing yards. But Breeze ranks two, four, five, six,

2610
02:17:48,840 --> 02:17:53,520
Speaker 1: and eight in all time passing yardage in a single season,

2611
02:17:54,000 --> 02:17:56,960
Speaker 1: and all five of those are five thousand yards or more.

2612
02:17:57,560 --> 02:18:00,520
Speaker 1: There's only four other five thousand yards season, and thereby

2613
02:18:00,600 --> 02:18:05,080
Speaker 1: four different quarterbacks. So if there's anyone more deserving of

2614
02:18:05,200 --> 02:18:08,920
Speaker 1: the all time passing yardage mark, it is Drew Brees.

2615
02:18:08,959 --> 02:18:11,600
Speaker 1: And Peyton Manning was quoted as saying as much. He said, yes,

2616
02:18:11,680 --> 02:18:15,119
Speaker 1: he absolutely does deserve that mark. So hopefully Drew Brees

2617
02:18:15,200 --> 02:18:17,280
Speaker 1: can stay healthy and get that. So that is true

2618
02:18:17,320 --> 02:18:22,560
Speaker 1: false presented by Yancey's fancy. And as I said, all day,

2619
02:18:22,600 --> 02:18:26,760
Speaker 1: we've been talking about Leshawn McCoy's Hall of Fame candidacy

2620
02:18:27,360 --> 02:18:30,080
Speaker 1: as it currently sits not where he's gonna end up.

2621
02:18:30,280 --> 02:18:33,240
Speaker 1: Where he is right now, just over ten thousand rushing yards,

2622
02:18:33,600 --> 02:18:36,360
Speaker 1: six Pro Bowls, a couple of AP First team All pros.

2623
02:18:37,440 --> 02:18:41,320
Speaker 1: You know, led the league in rushing once, led the

2624
02:18:41,440 --> 02:18:45,680
Speaker 1: league in rushing touchdowns once, has never been an NFL MVP,

2625
02:18:47,360 --> 02:18:51,920
Speaker 1: has never won a Super Bowl. So where is his

2626
02:18:52,080 --> 02:18:56,480
Speaker 1: candidacy sit? And I'll say, the one guy that just

2627
02:18:56,680 --> 02:19:00,080
Speaker 1: has me a little bit concerned about Leshawn's Canada to

2628
02:19:00,160 --> 02:19:02,800
Speaker 1: see is a guy like Edger and James, a guy

2629
02:19:02,879 --> 02:19:05,800
Speaker 1: with twelve thousand, two hundred and forty six career rushing

2630
02:19:05,879 --> 02:19:08,560
Speaker 1: yards played eleven seasons, which is only two more than

2631
02:19:08,640 --> 02:19:12,480
Speaker 1: Lashawn has played to this point, averaged just over four

2632
02:19:12,560 --> 02:19:15,160
Speaker 1: yards to carry, and maybe that's where he's hurt the most.

2633
02:19:16,600 --> 02:19:18,200
Speaker 1: You know, we had I Grease on earlier in the

2634
02:19:18,240 --> 02:19:20,520
Speaker 1: show and he was of the opinion that what's hurting

2635
02:19:20,600 --> 02:19:22,160
Speaker 1: Edger and James is the fact that he played with

2636
02:19:22,200 --> 02:19:24,800
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning and with Marvin Harrison. And I think that's

2637
02:19:24,800 --> 02:19:28,400
Speaker 1: a valid argument. But when a guy that's got over

2638
02:19:28,480 --> 02:19:32,200
Speaker 1: twelve thousand rushing yards is a finalist two of the

2639
02:19:32,280 --> 02:19:36,640
Speaker 1: last three years and can't get in, you kind of wonder, Well,

2640
02:19:36,680 --> 02:19:40,720
Speaker 1: where's the bar set? Because every other running back in

2641
02:19:40,840 --> 02:19:44,279
Speaker 1: the history of the league that has reached twelve thousand

2642
02:19:44,360 --> 02:19:48,440
Speaker 1: yards who is not still active now, Frank Gore, Adrian Peterson,

2643
02:19:49,120 --> 02:19:52,520
Speaker 1: They're in the Hall of Fame, Edger and James right

2644
02:19:52,600 --> 02:19:56,720
Speaker 1: now is the only guy with twelve thousand career rushing

2645
02:19:56,800 --> 02:19:59,840
Speaker 1: yards who is not active that is not in the

2646
02:20:00,040 --> 02:20:03,160
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Now, would I say Lashawn McCoy is

2647
02:20:03,200 --> 02:20:05,480
Speaker 1: a better running back all time body of work than

2648
02:20:05,560 --> 02:20:08,600
Speaker 1: Edger and James, I absolutely would. But it just gave

2649
02:20:08,640 --> 02:20:11,120
Speaker 1: me pause to see that this guy cannot get in

2650
02:20:11,240 --> 02:20:14,119
Speaker 1: despite reaching that twelve thousand yard plateau, which many people

2651
02:20:14,200 --> 02:20:19,680
Speaker 1: believe is the equivalent of three thousand hits in baseball

2652
02:20:20,360 --> 02:20:24,440
Speaker 1: or five hundred goals in hockey, you know, kind of

2653
02:20:24,480 --> 02:20:26,760
Speaker 1: like that punch your ticket to the Hall of Fame

2654
02:20:26,840 --> 02:20:30,960
Speaker 1: type of statistic, and at least in this case, it

2655
02:20:31,160 --> 02:20:34,040
Speaker 1: is an exception. Now, he may get in eventually, but

2656
02:20:34,200 --> 02:20:38,000
Speaker 1: I'm not convinced that he will, especially with guys coming

2657
02:20:38,080 --> 02:20:41,080
Speaker 1: in the pipeline relatively soon in the form of Frank Gore,

2658
02:20:41,480 --> 02:20:46,680
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson, and probably Lashawn McCoy. But I know on

2659
02:20:46,760 --> 02:20:49,440
Speaker 1: the Twitter poll today, you guys have been mostly split

2660
02:20:49,600 --> 02:20:53,680
Speaker 1: between he gets twelve k he's in, or he's probably

2661
02:20:53,720 --> 02:20:56,240
Speaker 1: gonna get in even if he doesn't have another rushing yard.

2662
02:20:57,000 --> 02:20:58,879
Speaker 1: He just won't get in on the first ballot. That's

2663
02:20:58,879 --> 02:21:01,520
Speaker 1: been pretty evenly split all day and it continues. As

2664
02:21:01,560 --> 02:21:04,560
Speaker 1: our MSG viewers can see. It's split literally right down

2665
02:21:04,560 --> 02:21:07,520
Speaker 1: the middle. Thirty six percent for needs twelve thousand rushing

2666
02:21:07,600 --> 02:21:10,960
Speaker 1: yards to get in thirty six percent. Good now, just

2667
02:21:11,160 --> 02:21:13,800
Speaker 1: not on the first ballot. We gotta take a break.

2668
02:21:13,840 --> 02:21:16,240
Speaker 1: We got one final segment here this Monday edition of

2669
02:21:16,320 --> 02:21:18,240
Speaker 1: One Bills Live. Chris Brown with you until the top

2670
02:21:18,280 --> 02:21:20,480
Speaker 1: of the hour. It's one Bills Live from One Bills

2671
02:21:20,520 --> 02:21:35,440
Speaker 1: Drive on Buffalo Bills Radio. Time for what have we

2672
02:21:35,680 --> 02:21:39,560
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Speaker 1: On the show today, we had one Ike Grease, former

2675
02:21:46,280 --> 02:21:50,440
Speaker 1: Eagles linebacker current radio host on WIP in Philadelphia covers

2676
02:21:50,480 --> 02:21:52,879
Speaker 1: the Eagles down there. We had him shed some light

2677
02:21:53,000 --> 02:21:56,520
Speaker 1: on Lashawn McCoy's career in Philadelphia as we try to

2678
02:21:56,879 --> 02:22:02,760
Speaker 1: determine his Hall of Fame. Candidas seem it's rare that

2679
02:22:02,879 --> 02:22:07,280
Speaker 1: you can build a team around a running back. You

2680
02:22:07,320 --> 02:22:11,840
Speaker 1: don't have those quote unquote franchise running backs as frequently

2681
02:22:11,879 --> 02:22:14,400
Speaker 1: as you used to have, and Shady is one of

2682
02:22:14,440 --> 02:22:17,880
Speaker 1: those rare franchise running backs, and you can build your team,

2683
02:22:18,000 --> 02:22:21,000
Speaker 1: your offense around what he does with him being the

2684
02:22:21,080 --> 02:22:25,120
Speaker 1: center feature. So I just think I think the world

2685
02:22:25,160 --> 02:22:27,680
Speaker 1: of the guy. I wish he was still in Midnight

2686
02:22:27,720 --> 02:22:31,280
Speaker 1: Green as opposed to being out there and Buffalo, but

2687
02:22:32,080 --> 02:22:35,000
Speaker 1: he had seemed to have made that situation work out

2688
02:22:35,160 --> 02:22:37,960
Speaker 1: very well, and I'm not surprised that he's had the

2689
02:22:38,000 --> 02:22:40,560
Speaker 1: type of success he's had in the three years that

2690
02:22:40,600 --> 02:22:44,120
Speaker 1: he's been up there. We also talked to former Bills

2691
02:22:44,160 --> 02:22:47,160
Speaker 1: wide receiver Eric molds Is on MSG tonight. They will

2692
02:22:47,200 --> 02:22:49,600
Speaker 1: be airing the final Bills Top ten series, top ten

2693
02:22:49,680 --> 02:22:53,240
Speaker 1: individual seasons in Bill's history, and Eric Moulds expected to

2694
02:22:53,320 --> 02:22:55,040
Speaker 1: be on that list. The question is will it be

2695
02:22:55,120 --> 02:22:57,480
Speaker 1: his ninety eight season or his two thousand and two season.

2696
02:22:57,840 --> 02:23:01,600
Speaker 1: So I asked Eric which season he was more proud of,

2697
02:23:01,800 --> 02:23:06,640
Speaker 1: which one was more memorable for him. I would probably

2698
02:23:06,680 --> 02:23:09,680
Speaker 1: have to say the ninety eighth season, because actually it

2699
02:23:09,800 --> 02:23:14,360
Speaker 1: was my first year as a starter and the way

2700
02:23:14,440 --> 02:23:16,440
Speaker 1: the process worked, and I had to work my way

2701
02:23:16,480 --> 02:23:20,000
Speaker 1: into trying to beat out Quinn earlier for the starting job.

2702
02:23:20,080 --> 02:23:22,840
Speaker 1: And so it was probably more memorable because it was

2703
02:23:23,000 --> 02:23:27,080
Speaker 1: it happened so bad and there's one of those things that, um,

2704
02:23:28,040 --> 02:23:29,960
Speaker 1: he would make a big play, then I forget about it,

2705
02:23:30,080 --> 02:23:33,960
Speaker 1: and your teammates will remind you of the records you

2706
02:23:34,040 --> 02:23:35,400
Speaker 1: said and things of that nature. But it was it

2707
02:23:35,480 --> 02:23:37,480
Speaker 1: was the most memorable because it was it was like

2708
02:23:37,600 --> 02:23:39,320
Speaker 1: a blur, but at the same time it was it

2709
02:23:39,440 --> 02:23:41,480
Speaker 1: was special because it was my first year as a

2710
02:23:41,520 --> 02:23:44,760
Speaker 1: starter and and get an opportunity to play and break

2711
02:23:44,840 --> 02:23:47,200
Speaker 1: records and then after that going to the playoffs and

2712
02:23:47,280 --> 02:23:50,240
Speaker 1: then set the playoff record. Was that made it more memorable.

2713
02:23:51,320 --> 02:23:53,800
Speaker 1: So Eric moull is expected to appear on that program

2714
02:23:53,879 --> 02:23:56,920
Speaker 1: tonight at airs on MSG tonight at eight pm. The

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02:23:57,040 --> 02:24:02,160
Speaker 1: Top ten individual seasons in Bills History, James Acton putting

2716
02:24:02,200 --> 02:24:05,200
Speaker 1: that together from our Buffalo Bills Entertainment Department. Thanks for

2717
02:24:05,360 --> 02:24:08,400
Speaker 1: joining us. Steve Tasker back tomorrow with me here on

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