00:00:08 Speaker 1: But I invited you here. I thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest to my home, you gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guests, your presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff, So how do you dare. 00:00:36 Speaker 2: To surbey me? 00:00:49 Speaker 3: Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm Pritchard winegar, I'm drunk as usual for here in the studio. I what's happening. I saw some new birds in my house today and I didn't let that stop me from getting here. My mom still has not returned my phone call from yesterday, so I assume we're over. Last week, I had to rent a car. We rented a Dodge charger. If you're not familiar with a Dodge charger, it's kind of the car you buy to let people know that you have a jukebox in your basement. And so if anyone saw me driving, I was in the passenger seat. If you saw me driving around, that's the real me. No, we have the Patreon. What do I always say like that, like it's a sad thing that we've got the Patreon. Join us on the Patreon. We're having the time of our life. I just bought a dress from Whitney Rose on Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. If you want to see me in the dress, I mean that alone. Over on Patreon, I'm doing all kinds of things, bonus episodes, etc. Come on over. Can we get into the podcast? I love today guest. Everybody loves them. It's Christine and Zandy Schieffer. You're too welcomed. I said, no gifts. 00:02:05 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Such an honor. 00:02:07 Speaker 3: I you know, I have so much to talk about and so little to talk about. I don't know how you two are in town for just a few days, correct. 00:02:16 Speaker 2: I just do need to hear about the birds though? 00:02:19 Speaker 3: Is that No, they're outside the house. I think they're making a nest. 00:02:22 Speaker 2: It's a threat, It's what it is. 00:02:24 Speaker 3: It's an absolute threat to me. You know. I was leaving to come to the podcast, and I saw these birds, and I thought, should I get up on the roof and deal with them now? And I thought, that feels like on the roof. That feels like that. 00:02:38 Speaker 2: It's like a jump to here to one hundred. 00:02:40 Speaker 3: Yes, this crossed my mind, and I thought, well, no, I have a schedule. Listeners have tried to diagnose me with ADHD and things like this where I'm like, oh, I'm supposed to be going to my job right now, and I'm thinking about getting on the roof to deal with birds. Could be a signal that there's something going on, and. 00:02:57 Speaker 2: We would have understood if you got a message like there was a bird. I was like, got it understood, No more words needed. 00:03:02 Speaker 4: Her hat goes on the roof and she has to go chase after it. 00:03:05 Speaker 3: She doesn't go on the roof. What you do when the cat's on the roof pebbles on it? I tried that. It's idea. 00:03:14 Speaker 2: I just mostly post about it and then get in big trouble with people who are like, I can't believe you would let your cat on the I'm like, I didn't do it on purpose. You're not put him there. 00:03:23 Speaker 3: People are getting after you. Stop wagging your fingers. 00:03:27 Speaker 2: Wagging me how often on the room. Maybe he's saving me from all these birds nests that are allegedly being built in my vicinity. I don't know, Listen, he's just he likes to be free. 00:03:37 Speaker 3: I feel like a roof is a perfectly natural place for a cat to you cat on. 00:03:43 Speaker 2: We've got a cold sleep, roof. 00:03:46 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:03:46 Speaker 3: Yeah, we've got theater based around the concert. 00:03:50 Speaker 2: It must be interesting at some level. 00:03:51 Speaker 3: Is your cat an entirely outdoor cat? 00:03:53 Speaker 2: No, he's not supposed to be out there at all. 00:03:55 Speaker 3: He's really the beginning of. 00:03:56 Speaker 2: Yeah problem he's he's yeah, he's a big problem. He he's lived many lives, I think, and he's dark energy. 00:04:03 Speaker 3: Yeah, dark energy in way. Well he's known as the Old God. 00:04:06 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just ominous. 00:04:08 Speaker 3: His vibes. 00:04:09 Speaker 2: Oh, my little sister named Hi that when she was a kid, and we all went. 00:04:12 Speaker 3: Oh, that's a scary thing to hear from a child. 00:04:14 Speaker 2: We thought, well, we're not going to mess with that. So, oh boy, when he gets on the roof, none of my business, you know, that's true. 00:04:19 Speaker 3: What's his name? 00:04:20 Speaker 2: Juniper? We thought he was a girl, and then we didn't want to be transphobic and like change. And then the vet was like this, these are testicles, and we were like, oh, okay, well we're not going to change a name. Like and then he became the Old God and now Juniper doesn't quite fit the vibe. 00:04:34 Speaker 3: But Juniper is a nice gender neutral name, I say, yeah, and it does feel a little Old God issue, true kind of an old god of the American West from LA. I think, right? Yeah, is he a rescue from La? 00:04:49 Speaker 5: Yeah? 00:04:49 Speaker 3: How did that happen? We used to live We used to live here. Oh yeah, let's get off bus, am I right now? We revealed we're in Las Vegas. 00:04:58 Speaker 2: We didn't live there. We've been there, who know, we haven't lived there? 00:05:02 Speaker 3: Okay, So he was rescued from LA and then was dragged back to Ohio. 00:05:06 Speaker 2: That's where all the problems began. 00:05:07 Speaker 3: Actually Kentucky for her. Oh, technically it's worse. 00:05:11 Speaker 2: Technically, Oh boy, I know we. 00:05:13 Speaker 4: Have to make that distinction because I don't want people to think I live in Kentucky. 00:05:16 Speaker 3: Because I don't. 00:05:17 Speaker 2: He lives ten minutes for me. 00:05:18 Speaker 3: But yeah, right across the river. Wow, and this is a big problem between the two of you. 00:05:24 Speaker 2: Yeah, so glad we're here to discuss. 00:05:25 Speaker 4: When you grow up somewhere where Kentucky has looked down upon, and then your sister moves to Kentucky, you get very confused. 00:05:32 Speaker 3: My niece is from Kentucky. Oh, I just trash, Kentucky trash. 00:05:36 Speaker 2: He's four years oldest, complete, not living under that tin roof. 00:05:40 Speaker 4: It's like it's dilapidated everything. 00:05:43 Speaker 3: It's just awful. I'm not familiar. I've never been to Kentucky. I want to hear some horrible things about Kentucky. I don't know a couple of nice things. What's so wrong with Kentucky? 00:05:53 Speaker 2: What isn't going on in Kentucky? 00:05:54 Speaker 4: Going to school in Cincinnati, growing up there, high school and everything. If you're from Kentucky for some reason, that's a negative. 00:06:00 Speaker 3: So you just kind of like you just don't like it. 00:06:03 Speaker 4: Same was Ohio, Michigan. You were born not to like it certain places. 00:06:07 Speaker 3: I feel not good. 00:06:08 Speaker 2: That's a very limited perspective. And like, after you know, living in this expansive town of Los Angeles, I would have thought you'd like broaden your horizons a little bit. And we went to private Catholic school, which is a big part of our problems also, Okay, and I feel like the fact that you're still judging where I live based on our outdated Catholic upbringing is a little problematic for me. 00:06:31 Speaker 4: I'm two years younger, so I'm still processing. My therapy is a little bit behind. Right. Let me get there, give me, give me a little bit to catch up. 00:06:38 Speaker 2: Please, In the meantime, Kentucky's pretty bored anyway. I don't know. There's horses and stuff. 00:06:43 Speaker 3: But Christina, as someone who lives in Kentucky's say some bad things about Kentucky. You're the authority. I didn't say one good things. What would you say is the true problem with Kentucky. I want to cause some trouble for you. 00:06:58 Speaker 2: I thought the cat was going to be the biggest of my cancelations today. Now the people, oh, that's probably about. 00:07:06 Speaker 3: It, so careful about it, And you're like, well, everyone, the human beings who live there are awful. 00:07:14 Speaker 2: They're part of the problem, right, The people. 00:07:17 Speaker 3: Are part of the problem. In every city, fair enough, in every star enough is there is the that's what? What's something that could be bad? That's not so tough? Horses to. 00:07:30 Speaker 2: A lot of horse horse culture not really my vice. 00:07:33 Speaker 3: Okay, how often are you riding a horse growing up? 00:07:37 Speaker 4: I'm certainly too much, too much, too much, maybe twice. 00:07:41 Speaker 2: Which too she's thinking about like ponies. I think I don't know that we ever wrote a. 00:07:44 Speaker 4: Hole It almost it almost threw me off. Where was this probably in Kentucky, I don't remember. 00:07:52 Speaker 3: Was like a core memory. You have no idea what happened. 00:07:56 Speaker 4: No, I have a weird thing with my memories where I remember nothing from our childhood. It's for very specific things, and then she remembers everything and has to teach me what we went. 00:08:05 Speaker 3: Through as children. But I do remember the horse. 00:08:07 Speaker 4: I was on the back of a horse and there was a loud noise and the horse kind of like bucked. 00:08:12 Speaker 3: It got spooked. 00:08:13 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I had to hold on for dear life, and I did. And I never rode a horse again. 00:08:18 Speaker 3: You were benning from horsem I went vegan after that. Actually, I was like I can't. 00:08:23 Speaker 4: I gotta get on their good side. 00:08:25 Speaker 3: No, and Christina, you've never been on a horse. 00:08:28 Speaker 2: I mean apparently I have. I don't recall she hasn't. 00:08:31 Speaker 3: Been on a horse. Sure you weren't you on a horse in China? Yeah? A horse in China. You went on. You went all the way to China, get up to get home. 00:08:39 Speaker 2: I was on the Silk Road and my dad, our dad, so another whole thing. He took me to China one time with his business partners, okay, because they're all off Chinese, and I didn't know what was going on because I don't speak Chinese. And we went to the Silk Road and they said, okay, now we're all getting on. Well, they didn't say anything, they said something in Chinese and then everyone climbed on a horse, and my dad was not. He forgot I was there, so I kind of had to figure it out. And I got on a horse and then this old man fell off his horse and it was very funny. 00:09:11 Speaker 3: And I wasn't there. 00:09:13 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wasn't allowed to go. 00:09:14 Speaker 4: I was busy interning at an insurance company in Ohio. 00:09:17 Speaker 3: Said I would way prefer that international trip. It was exciting. 00:09:23 Speaker 2: Anyway, we're just processing a lot of trauma here today. I'm sorry. 00:09:26 Speaker 3: Where were the horse? And thank you for the apology? Where were the horses riding in China? 00:09:31 Speaker 2: Was it just like anna were going up like this mountain and they said no cars allowed? And I said okay, So I got on the horse and then Carl fell off it and he had this backscratch that he had bought at a market earlier that day, and he fell and broke his backscratcher. 00:09:47 Speaker 3: It was all very well, Oh my god. 00:09:51 Speaker 4: I was like, I don't remember that part. 00:09:53 Speaker 2: No, I laughed. Remember it wasn't that bad I'd laugh. 00:09:56 Speaker 3: If he broke his back. 00:09:58 Speaker 2: I love Carl, but. 00:10:00 Speaker 3: I would laugh. 00:10:01 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. 00:10:02 Speaker 3: How long were you in China for? Oh? 00:10:04 Speaker 2: Wow, that was like a long too long. 00:10:07 Speaker 4: I think it was a couple of weeks, right, that's like two weeks. 00:10:09 Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh, that sounds incredible. 00:10:10 Speaker 2: I was in Shanghai for one day and I woke up the next morning and like blew my nose and it was all black like that because you breathe in there all right, of course, And I don't know if this is for me my allergies. I'm too like fragile, you know. And then the horse situation, I thought, I can't, I can't make this work. 00:10:27 Speaker 3: I had. I just the only time I've been to China was a layover and I couldn't use social media. That was my big experience. 00:10:35 Speaker 2: That part was weird too. 00:10:36 Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly, probably for the better. Yeah, for those thirty minutes that I was just forced to be bored in China. 00:10:43 Speaker 2: That sounds traumatic as well. 00:10:45 Speaker 3: It was very difficult not being on inta. Where were you going to Tokyo? 00:10:49 Speaker 2: Oh cool, that sounds cooler than my thing. 00:10:51 Speaker 3: Oh no, it's well, okay. China's are very careful, like over a billion people. A billion people and Kentucky. That's tough. Okay, So I want to continue talking about this rivalry between Ohio and Kentucky. Oh yeah, how often you are like restaurant wise, when you're going out to dinner? Do you because you're ten minutes away? Do you ever go to Kentucky to go out to eat? 00:11:18 Speaker 4: I do go to certain cafes down there, certain lunch spots, I admit it. 00:11:22 Speaker 3: I do. Okay, I'm guilty of that. This is this sort of thing where you can just hop state to state is not familiar to amazing. It seems like such a fascinating experience. That also means nothing. 00:11:34 Speaker 4: We also have Southeast Indiana that we al another like ten minutes. 00:11:37 Speaker 2: They call us the Tri State. 00:11:39 Speaker 3: So the Tri State, we love, the Try State. 00:11:43 Speaker 4: Yeah, I lived in New York briefly, and everyone's saying the Try State. I'm like, that's not We're over yeah a little bit horses there. 00:11:54 Speaker 3: And now none of us has any stake in Indiana, so we can all say something horrible now Indiana, Yeah I haven't. I also haven't been there, so I can't really speak. Probably the people's it's the people, the people from Indiana. 00:12:07 Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. 00:12:09 Speaker 3: Just clip that online and cancelsure. 00:12:12 Speaker 2: What's that all about? 00:12:13 Speaker 3: How after are you going to Indiana? 00:12:15 Speaker 2: Never? 00:12:15 Speaker 3: Never, No. 00:12:16 Speaker 4: I did an internship there where I would drive two hours just one way to work for four hours, and then drive two hours back to Cincinnati. 00:12:23 Speaker 2: It was a cool record. It was a record like other insurance company. 00:12:26 Speaker 4: I got paid in records, so I didn't actually make any money, which joyful noise, Oh, sure, of course. 00:12:32 Speaker 3: That's insurance company. And then joyful noise. 00:12:36 Speaker 2: Again, it's part of all our Yeah, we can diagnose you also, because we're pretty qualified for that, I think. 00:12:45 Speaker 4: Yeah, we've diagnosed each other our entire lives, and we were always right. 00:12:49 Speaker 3: Everything's right. Yeah, it's a lot of things. 00:12:51 Speaker 2: Thank you. 00:12:54 Speaker 3: How did you end up interning for an insurance company? My dad knew a guy. 00:12:59 Speaker 4: Okay, classic story, and I ended up being on the floor with no other interns. So I was on the licensing floor, and that just made me realize, oh, this was a favor. 00:13:10 Speaker 2: Like there, I don't really belong with the other interns. 00:13:14 Speaker 4: And so I was the only one on that floor and they gave me a bunch of work to do in Excel, and I did it all within a month, and I had two more months left and they didn't know what to do with me, so they just gave me as much busy work as they could. Meanwhile, she was in China and I was sorry you were Cincinnati. 00:13:33 Speaker 3: My one internship. I was separated from the interns. 00:13:37 Speaker 2: It's like demoralized. 00:13:38 Speaker 3: It's a very odd feeling. Initially you're like, oh, I'm I guess I'm special. And then you're like, oh, I'm just being tortured by my bosses because I have no one to relate. 00:13:47 Speaker 2: And now you're in the middle of both, and it's like, well, yeah, I'm. 00:13:50 Speaker 3: In no world. No world will have. 00:13:53 Speaker 4: I was a floor below the rest, so that didn't help. Like if I were, I'd be like, okay, I'm better, But I was not batter They were. 00:14:00 Speaker 2: Up there like dancing. You could hear them, oh yeah, yeah. 00:14:03 Speaker 4: And they had they had special events and stuff, and I shouldn't because it was on a different floor. 00:14:07 Speaker 3: Of course. Yeah, and you were. You had your nose to the grindstone and. 00:14:12 Speaker 4: So hard because for my future and insurance. 00:14:14 Speaker 3: Of course, you had to break into the Insurance World champions. 00:14:19 Speaker 2: Up in l A obviously. 00:14:20 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, you two are just in l A for a few days. Are you doing anything fun while you're here? 00:14:26 Speaker 2: Mostly? 00:14:26 Speaker 3: This the most fun I was. I was fishing for that. 00:14:29 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, easy one, easy, lowball. What else are we up to? 00:14:35 Speaker 4: We like to stay in our hotel room. 00:14:38 Speaker 2: Okay? 00:14:39 Speaker 3: Do you watch hotel TV? Yes? 00:14:40 Speaker 2: Sometimes we watched c SPAN about alien that. 00:14:47 Speaker 3: What's going on? You have no idea? I really don't. 00:14:49 Speaker 4: I'm a little nervous to say it. 00:14:51 Speaker 2: They're here, they. 00:14:55 Speaker 4: The government knows of pilots and organic beings somewhere. 00:15:01 Speaker 2: Our managers having like a full She's like, something's wrong. 00:15:05 Speaker 6: Clients are Kentucky, outer space, all the aliens, everything in the universe. No, they have like testifying, these these professionals testifying to what they saw covering up. 00:15:18 Speaker 2: Everything changed when Ohio got recreational weed. Okay, life's a lot more fun. And so sometimes when we travel we just sit in the hotel we watch c SPAN. 00:15:27 Speaker 4: But it's c SPAN and it's they're talking about aliens' real like congressional hearings about aliens. 00:15:33 Speaker 3: We keep having these things. I feel like this is now an annual thing where someone who seems fairly with it is saying I know about aliens, and then nothing happens. We don't see anything else about it, and we're all like, Okay, then they're here and then it changes literally nothing, and then we wait till the next year where uh Tom DeLong shows back in Congress. When do we get the photos or the videos or when do we get to talk to. 00:16:00 Speaker 2: Isn't that always a question? When do we have photos? 00:16:03 Speaker 4: May we already have we just don't know enough enough. 00:16:06 Speaker 3: There's the teasing. I know, the teaser campaign for aliens has got to come to an They're either here or they're not. 00:16:13 Speaker 2: Let's move on, let's get it together. 00:16:15 Speaker 3: I saw a headline like a week ago that was like if this is if this is all disclosed, the economy will collapse because there will no longer be any trust in the government. 00:16:27 Speaker 2: Right right, there's a lot of that. 00:16:29 Speaker 3: Right It's like, what are we talking about? Yes, in the greenlands, but I just if there's evidence, then I just don't understand what's the end of there's the endgame here? Who, Like, what are they talking about right now on c SPAN, Like what are they saying organic beings or is there a sentience. 00:16:53 Speaker 4: But they said not they are not Like I forget what they said. 00:16:57 Speaker 2: They're not extra terrestrial. 00:17:00 Speaker 4: They are because, oh, because we don't know if they're from not. 00:17:03 Speaker 2: Of this Earth, India. 00:17:05 Speaker 3: They could be interdimensional. 00:17:06 Speaker 2: And this guy says it on c SPAN and I'm like, okay, it's not the recreational it really this guy says on s SPAN, like in the army. 00:17:15 Speaker 3: They may be from another dimension, or they may be from another planet. It feels more likely they're from another dimension. 00:17:23 Speaker 4: It feels we don't understand everything. I don't understand anything, understand most things. 00:17:29 Speaker 3: But not this. And yet they're they've whoever's experienced them. It really has changed nothing except for they get to be on c SPAN, Right, what else is affected? I don't know. They got to meet AOC. AOC was there. That was Tom along probably too, at least in the audience. I just I'm so mystified by the entire thing. I think. 00:17:52 Speaker 4: Yeah, the government, I think is they claim that the government's withholding because of certain technologies that they're gaining access to, and they don't other countries to gain access to certain technologies. If I sound so insane right. 00:18:06 Speaker 2: By the way, I'm usually one and when I showed him the Sea Span, he went down a rabbit hole and I went, oh, I probably shouldn't have sent him down there, but. 00:18:14 Speaker 4: More than I would have been like, this is all bullshit. And then I watched one thing like two hours of Sea Span. I was like, I'm in But yeah, they think they have certain weapons, technology, et cetera that they want to be able to use and they don't want other people to use. 00:18:26 Speaker 3: But it's all like four tightly. I mean, like the biggest secret keepers on Earth have access to this because I just don't believe, like we have the biggest blabber mouth in the world and controvel of the country, Like why, I just feel like somebody. 00:18:43 Speaker 2: They're sending him on side quests like Greenland's. I think they're just like, go like play outside, and he's playing outside right now, bullying everybody, and it's like, meanwhile, the grown ups are keeping the secrets. Listen. I don't know. 00:18:56 Speaker 3: I don't just like, if I knew, I feel like telling you. 00:19:00 Speaker 4: Everybody, I know, I don't know how you'd keep that. 00:19:02 Speaker 3: You're using this great technology, whatever it is, what is it? 00:19:06 Speaker 2: We're all podcasters. I think we're the last people that would give the secrets of Alien University. 00:19:10 Speaker 4: But I think the technology that I would want is have you ever played The Sims? 00:19:16 Speaker 3: Of course in the Sims, they have those showers. 00:19:18 Speaker 4: We just walk in and it just like cleans your body and it's like these things, Now, that's what I want. I don't I don't want to get wet. I just want to like go in and be clean. 00:19:25 Speaker 3: I would want the Sims technology. When you pee, your pants are suddenly in just a giant puddle and you're crying. 00:19:30 Speaker 2: Oh, I think naturally. 00:19:33 Speaker 3: No, Usually it's a much slower thing. In the airport, my pants are we I'm looking for a place to switch clothes or the like having a baby by like crawling around under the sheets of your bed. That feels. Yeah. What other things do the Sims do? Yeah, they get trapped in rooms but forget to eat. 00:19:57 Speaker 4: And there's a whole dumpster diving like expansion and it was a dumpster. Yeah. I made a character after her and who just all everything that she got was out of the dumpsters. 00:20:07 Speaker 3: She lives in Kentucky. Yeah, on the roof on her dumpster. Like, do either of you still play The Sims? 00:20:18 Speaker 4: Sometimes it's been it's probably been at least a year, but definitely within the past couple of years. 00:20:22 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a huge source of conflict between my sister and I, you know, because we had one computer and it was highly addictive, and you know, it just led to fight after fight. 00:20:33 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the drum? Are you older? Younger? 00:20:35 Speaker 3: Older? Okay and less immature? Perhaps? 00:20:39 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know what that's like. 00:20:40 Speaker 3: So there was a was there fighting between you about the Sims or that. 00:20:43 Speaker 2: Was fighting between everything everything? 00:20:46 Speaker 7: Yeah? 00:20:47 Speaker 4: But so yeah, definitely computer time. I'm sure I played a lot of RuneScape. That was very important to me. 00:20:52 Speaker 2: Right, I mocked a lot of rooms and mocked. 00:20:54 Speaker 3: Yeah, that feels like an easy tar really. 00:20:57 Speaker 4: I played more recently than the Sims actually made it. 00:21:01 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, did you I asked this of people a lot, do you Did you ever have physical fights a siblings as like kids? 00:21:07 Speaker 2: Interesting because my friend had asked, when was the last time you you punched someone? I went, honestly, it was probably my brother. 00:21:12 Speaker 3: Like, I don't know, I spit in her hair once. 00:21:15 Speaker 2: He spit in my hair and my mom laughed and I've. 00:21:18 Speaker 4: Never got because she was telling me not to spit in her hair and I was like, but what if I did. 00:21:23 Speaker 3: And then I've got a great idea. Yeah, and I did. Mom thought it was hilarious. No, that was bad. 00:21:28 Speaker 2: So I call that physical aggression. 00:21:30 Speaker 4: That was That was that was pretty rough. I mean it was like I was like twenty one at that point. 00:21:34 Speaker 3: Twenty one. 00:21:34 Speaker 2: Okay, oh my god, you scared me. I was like, that can't be true. We were chilled, right, Yeah. 00:21:40 Speaker 3: I feel like our physical fights probably stopped at around twelve. 00:21:44 Speaker 2: I think that's why together a little bit. 00:21:47 Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, I asked because I remember my siblings and I frequently physically pulling, pulling hair, pinching, wrestling on the floor, not so much like punching in the face. Yeah right, but there was like a weird animalistic physicality to it. There's yeah, and you were mad at each other trying to hurt each other, which is so crazy, and you. 00:22:06 Speaker 2: Probably could have, like I think about him. 00:22:11 Speaker 4: I agree. 00:22:11 Speaker 3: Actually yeah, well, I mean speaking of physically fighting and just wanting to hurt people. The podcast is called I said, no gifts. You two are podcasters. I would think of you as professionals. Stake. I was looking forward to I make a lot of them. I was looking forward to you to being here today. And then I come to the studio, I get here, Ellis, our producer, comes in kind of pulls me aside and says, I'm so sorry. They have a gift. I asked Elis to step out and close the door, just did some breathing exercises, and now we're here. You brought a gift to the podcast. 00:22:54 Speaker 2: We said we wouldn't apologize. 00:22:55 Speaker 3: I mean, sibling sibling promise. My bad cut that out. 00:23:02 Speaker 4: Honestly to be, it's kind of a plus for us and a gift for us because we're getting the chance to share our culture. It's a cultural gift. It's more like a cultural exchange. I mean, I wouldn't say exchange because we don't get much in return here. I got a nice coffee, but we at least are sharing our culture with you. 00:23:24 Speaker 3: Okay, well that's a horrible excuse, but I'm happy to open it here on the show as well. It's in this kind of beautiful brown bag. It's lying flat on the table with an exciting tissue coming out of it. Hand it to me and I'll open it here on the show. This is embarrassing for all of us. I hope no one has their volume up too loud. Dog is, windows are shattering. 00:23:58 Speaker 2: It's all our fault. 00:23:59 Speaker 3: Okay, reaching this one, you got to get them all out good, Okay, reaching. Oh it's a book. Okay, whoa. I don't even know how to pronounce this. I'll try though, strewe well, Peter, let me try to do that. Truthful. 00:24:19 Speaker 2: That's very good. 00:24:20 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:24:20 Speaker 2: It was a weaker German and this was one of our childhood books that was read to us. It's very cautionary tales. Have you heard of these things? 00:24:30 Speaker 3: I mean, are they essentially like fairy tales? But someone dies at the end of children? A lot of children die right uh for the listener. It's a beautiful cover and also horrifying. It's yellow, has the difficult word to pronounce, and then essentially the most evil woman alive. 00:24:50 Speaker 2: Oh it's a man. 00:24:51 Speaker 3: Oh, that's a man that's headed Peter translation translation peterheaded. 00:24:57 Speaker 4: I can't translate that anymore than that. 00:24:59 Speaker 3: R you know what it means. But he's got like a he's got a lot of hair that's shocking coming at it, and then very long fingernails. He's wearing essentially a tunic with a it's a snappy tunic with a belt correct, cinched at the waist and very short legs. Correct. 00:25:16 Speaker 2: I think they kind of got excited about all the other stuff. 00:25:20 Speaker 3: Yeah, got what So is he like the protagonists come for you will? I mean he's terrifying threat. 00:25:27 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, no, he's he's a threat. He's I think the first story is just him, and then the rest are all completely different. So I think he's only in the first story. 00:25:35 Speaker 2: If you want to look at page thirteen, that's the page that I think like gives the best visual description of the kind of stories in here. 00:25:43 Speaker 3: I love. It's a new book, so I love pages. 00:25:45 Speaker 2: It's from a local bookstore. 00:25:49 Speaker 3: Familiar, it's right, correct? Yeah, Oh I know that place. 00:25:54 Speaker 2: I made my producer go by it because we were at the hotel watching seats and I went pickure up some gift wrapped. 00:26:01 Speaker 4: H because she forgot hurt copy at home. 00:26:03 Speaker 3: That's how I buy all of my gifts. Ellis I need a gift. 00:26:07 Speaker 2: From my mom? 00:26:09 Speaker 3: Okay, this is page thirteen. Oh is this is his origin store. 00:26:13 Speaker 2: No, this is a totally different so we've already moved past. He's just the main like store, the first story, and then the rest are just different children misbehaving. This is how we learned not to This is how I learned not to suck my thumb, because as you can see, his thumbs have been cut. 00:26:25 Speaker 3: Off a little little suck a thumb, a little suck at thumb. That's his name, suck a thumb. 00:26:30 Speaker 2: And his thumbs were cut off by that tailor. 00:26:32 Speaker 3: See the blood of course, the taylor with kind of a scissor that you would do for a grand opening of a grocery store. 00:26:38 Speaker 2: Car dealer. Yeah, exactly, but now he has no thumbs left. 00:26:41 Speaker 3: And is this like, are they just very short stories? 00:26:44 Speaker 2: Yeah, just like little ce poems. 00:26:46 Speaker 4: Cute is not the word it used for any of these. 00:26:49 Speaker 3: What I want to see some of the other. 00:26:50 Speaker 2: So does this give you insight into kind of our whole thing. 00:26:53 Speaker 3: Stories He's just read to German children like it's a normal thing. Yeah, I mean kids. Originally we read this. 00:27:00 Speaker 4: Originally the author wrote it as a gift for his son, and his buddy was like, dude, this is amazing. You got to publish this or something. 00:27:12 Speaker 2: He's like, this ship is cold. 00:27:13 Speaker 4: The people will love this, and they did. The German German people, German people. 00:27:19 Speaker 3: Wow, this person's emotional abuse has now become a publishing phenomenon. 00:27:24 Speaker 2: Right, It went viral for the day and it's still kind of They still sell it in Pasadena. 00:27:28 Speaker 3: Pasadena made it all the way to sunny southern California serves up. Yes, beautiful. Okay, So I mean the. 00:27:34 Speaker 4: Kids here could use it if you asked me, But I don't know. 00:27:36 Speaker 3: It looks like someone's falling into the water and drowning. That's right. 00:27:40 Speaker 2: Catches on fire to the. 00:27:41 Speaker 3: Woman with the cats. Yeah, she was playing with matches and the. 00:27:44 Speaker 4: Cats were like, don't do that, and then she caught on fire and they were like, I told you. 00:27:48 Speaker 3: So these are like tell me you, let's see here about the author. We don't care. Yeah, I just want to see various children learning their lessons. 00:27:58 Speaker 4: I do like the hair that the one you're looking at. 00:28:00 Speaker 3: Mass the hair. Nice revenge tale. 00:28:02 Speaker 4: The next page is even better. 00:28:04 Speaker 2: The gun. 00:28:05 Speaker 4: The rabbit shoot the gun while wearing the glasses of the hunter. 00:28:09 Speaker 2: Oh you get smoking a sick or something. 00:28:12 Speaker 4: The last frame, I want a tattoo of that rabbit. 00:28:15 Speaker 3: That's my goal. That's amazing. Not only does he shoot the hunter, he shoots him to death and the hunter falls into a well. 00:28:21 Speaker 2: Now the whole village is poisoned, because the. 00:28:27 Speaker 3: Whole village. 00:28:28 Speaker 2: That's my news. That's any expansion on the story. 00:28:30 Speaker 3: Stop drinking unfiltered water. 00:28:33 Speaker 2: You never know. 00:28:34 Speaker 3: Wow, this is we were both of your parents German. Okay, do you speak German? Wow? But not not much. I don't want to. Were you born in Germany? 00:28:47 Speaker 2: You're born in Cincinnati. Like our parents met in very Ohio. Story, but they met in Cincinnati as two German people were like, well, I guess we'll get married, and then. 00:28:57 Speaker 4: Two years later they were like, I guess I didn't have done that. 00:29:02 Speaker 3: That's not that one. 00:29:02 Speaker 2: Yeah, then they Yeah, anyway, So our stepparents are American. So my sister was raised with like a relatively normal, you know, kind of contact, and we were really so sometimes it was a total darkness, complete and other darkness. 00:29:16 Speaker 3: Catholicism plus with this bolshous, real violent evil German tales. 00:29:22 Speaker 2: Kentucky, like ten minutes down the road, it's like threats at every corner. 00:29:26 Speaker 3: Yeah, do you visit Germany often? 00:29:29 Speaker 2: We used to. 00:29:30 Speaker 4: It's been like a couple of years, but yeah, like every couple of years, maybe, like we have the option to go more regularly, but we're not as close with our extended family as the rest of our little sister like, she'll go with our cousins. She's closer with them, and we're like, have fun. 00:29:46 Speaker 2: We've kind of between. 00:29:48 Speaker 4: I lived with my grandpa and our grandpa for six months. 00:29:51 Speaker 3: And German Grandpa, Yeah, absolute hell. It was hell on earth. 00:29:55 Speaker 4: And my mom, who was raised by this man, was like what And then she tells me all these stories, and I'm like, you knew he's a terrible person to live with. 00:30:03 Speaker 2: Can I get one little fun anecdote? 00:30:06 Speaker 3: Please? 00:30:07 Speaker 2: He went times room at our grandpa's house. Our grandpa famously just didn't like like people, or children or women. He so he had seven daughters, so that went well. And then my brother went to live with him for a while. And one day my brother was in his room and saw an envelope. 00:30:24 Speaker 4: Full of cats full of cash, and it was underneath the radiator, a lot. 00:30:28 Speaker 2: Of money under the radiator. 00:30:29 Speaker 4: And I went to go get it, and I was like, oh my god, I don't know how much it was, but it was like thousands of euro and I'm like, what the hell? So I gave it to him and then he gave me like a reward of like I don't know, one hundred euro or something. 00:30:41 Speaker 3: He's like, oh good. He was testing me And I'm like, whoa, this is straight out of this book. And I'm like, what did he expect? Like, I'm not that dumb. 00:30:50 Speaker 4: It was like also like over a month after I moved in, as if I wouldn't see a thing of cash lying on the floor under the radiator. 00:30:58 Speaker 3: What like scenario is he's setting you up for there? Is he afraid you were going to take something from him? 00:31:05 Speaker 5: Yeah? 00:31:05 Speaker 4: I get I don't know, but well, okay, this this might give a little insight. He put an alarm outside my door so whenever I walked by it was motion sensor. 00:31:14 Speaker 3: That was a motion sensor. 00:31:15 Speaker 4: It would make a loud ding dong so he could hear when I left my room and came back. 00:31:19 Speaker 3: Whoa. He was not a good person. I want to hear more stories about this person. Is there anything good happening at this cottage? I assume it's a cottage. 00:31:28 Speaker 7: It is not. 00:31:28 Speaker 4: Is a very like a large old pink house. My bathroom was like completely pink tiling. It had a urinal in there too, Like he installed urinals in like all the. 00:31:38 Speaker 3: Bathrooms and in home, urinal is always a rent flag. Yeah. 00:31:41 Speaker 4: It was one of those things where once I used it, I was like, I can get used to this, but I never want to install this might like that seems. I don't want people to come into my bathroom and be like, oh, there's a urinal there. 00:31:53 Speaker 3: I mean, like you're not liking women. That's such a thing. It's like, oh, I'm going to install a toilet specifically for men to you. Yeah, so we're in my very pink bathroom. It's a great It's got a mixed messaging in Grandpa's house. 00:32:06 Speaker 7: No, he was. 00:32:07 Speaker 4: He's not a nice man. He's somehow so alive. I don't know how he feels like he thinks that probably based on just me living with him. 00:32:15 Speaker 3: But no, he was. 00:32:17 Speaker 4: We would like go sit in cafes and people watch. I mean he was mostly like complaining about the youths and what whatnot. Some good times just like hanging out. It was usually when we weren't talking that it was really good. 00:32:27 Speaker 3: That makes us But his children, his daughters like him. 00:32:31 Speaker 7: No, No, it's complicated. 00:32:36 Speaker 4: Well, some of the favorites, you know, they play, they play each other. 00:32:40 Speaker 2: He has one son named after him, who's the fourteenth of the lineage fourteen. Let's just say there's some complicated speaking of sibling dynamics. 00:32:49 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:32:49 Speaker 2: I don't think that seven of them could eight of them could start a podcast. It would be really bad. 00:32:53 Speaker 5: Wow. 00:32:54 Speaker 3: So wait, they're eight children total. He had seven daughters in a row, and it's like I've got to have someone to play baseball with or whatever. 00:33:00 Speaker 2: He actually had a son in somewhere in the middle, and then like oops, they accidentally had like more daughters. 00:33:05 Speaker 3: Oh. 00:33:06 Speaker 4: I don't know what he is, but he's like one of like the third youngest. Maybe I don't know is he I don't actually know. 00:33:10 Speaker 3: I don't really care. Aside, I want to get to know this guy. 00:33:14 Speaker 2: Am I allowed to say the other part? 00:33:15 Speaker 5: Or no? 00:33:16 Speaker 3: I do not care, so I shouldn't say it. 00:33:19 Speaker 2: He's also gay, he's. 00:33:21 Speaker 3: Oh, you shouldn't say that. Grandpa's gay. Yeah, well, pink bathroom. 00:33:27 Speaker 4: Much like like I didn't realize I was bisexual until two years ago because of internalized homophobia that cut off. That man was raising fucking Nazi Germany. I can't imagine. 00:33:37 Speaker 3: But he's a total ass. 00:33:39 Speaker 2: Both sides you're like, well, obviously you're you've had an extremely wild and traumatic upbringing, but also like, hey, I'm gonna not be part of this. 00:33:48 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe he would. 00:33:49 Speaker 4: And when I worked for him in his lamp store. 00:33:52 Speaker 3: Oh that's a fun fact. 00:33:54 Speaker 2: That's one of the oldest lamp stores in the country. 00:33:56 Speaker 3: Right, this is all adding up. Grandpa's a giant bitch. Yeah. 00:34:00 Speaker 4: Yeah, he was an asshole, especially to customers. There were were like negative reviews and they. 00:34:04 Speaker 3: Were all negative. Yeah, it was writing. 00:34:09 Speaker 4: Yeah, he nailed you on the doors, the whole thing. Yeah, the eleven Yeah, yeah, it was something. But yeah, no, he's a He's an interesting man. That taught me a lot. 00:34:24 Speaker 3: I love this guy. I hate myself, you know. Yeah. 00:34:27 Speaker 4: He would come every day in like the break room. He'd complain about my family, my sister, my oh, my stepdad. He does not like our stepdad. Our stepdad stood up to him once. 00:34:38 Speaker 3: Never seen each other. What was the disagreement. It was something about my mom like and said. 00:34:43 Speaker 2: Oh, I never got the books I wanted when I was a child, And then everybody started erupting, and then a chair, my stepdad through a chair and my my my now husband, I don't know what he was thinking. We were dating back then and he stuck around for some reason, but he witnessed all this and he's like, I think we should go. So we had to like leave out the back do or because they were throwing furniture. And the next morning they're like, hey, are you guys coming over for breakfast? And we stopped by and everyone was just like drinking coffee and I was like, I can't live like this, live like this growing. 00:35:10 Speaker 4: And our step. He's like a very mild manner, like very like soft spoken man, and he was driven to that. Yeah, and I don't blame driven to mat. 00:35:18 Speaker 3: Cherry Springer level. Yeah. 00:35:20 Speaker 4: Yes, the chair it's still a little funky. They still use it, but it's like it's one where you sit on it and you're like, whoa, that leg's about to give out. 00:35:27 Speaker 3: And it's now got this memory tied to anytime you sit in that chair, it's dark flashback. That's great. That's what sort of books did your mom want us to chry? Probably that one, this one, No, that's probably she. 00:35:40 Speaker 4: Was really into like American West, like Spaghetti Western. 00:35:44 Speaker 3: She liked Europeans love sweet they. 00:35:46 Speaker 2: Love the Wild West situation. 00:35:47 Speaker 4: Yeah, they love like West white people being Native Americans in media, they. 00:35:53 Speaker 2: Love an Italian especially Yeah my favorite. Yeah, it's great. 00:35:59 Speaker 4: So yeah, she was really in the US and then ended up moving when she was like eighteen, so. 00:36:04 Speaker 3: She loved pop music. 00:36:05 Speaker 4: I bet she's a billy Idol is a billy. She likes Billy Idol. She likes Tiesto too. 00:36:11 Speaker 3: Though wait, I don't know, I'm not familiar with the. 00:36:14 Speaker 7: DJ from like the mid to weould we would play like we would play like Tiesto cassettes in my mom's like Volkswagen DJ Cacabriole, and we'd just be like driving around town blasting this like techno. 00:36:28 Speaker 3: Music, and t is an American DJ. 00:36:30 Speaker 4: I don't think so. I had no idea where Tiesta's. 00:36:33 Speaker 3: Restening to Tiesto and your Cabriole talking about he's Dutch. That all makes more sense. It's a Dutch situation. Yeah. Yeah, that is not Kentucky, Ohio. 00:36:49 Speaker 2: That's not really welcome. 00:36:50 Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, wow, what a childhood. 00:36:54 Speaker 2: We're gonna actually go back to her room after this and just kind of like meditate or something. We're bringing up a lot of. 00:37:00 Speaker 4: We always talk about something and kind of every time we hang out. 00:37:05 Speaker 3: I worked with the German in high school and he would always talk about me looking like a character from some German illustration. Does this sound familiar at all? That maybe like slept in a match box, which I would love to do. 00:37:17 Speaker 2: Interesting, that feels like an insult, but not like it feels Yeah, I mean it's. 00:37:22 Speaker 3: Like I don't it sounds like the idea. I love the mouse's Yeah, getting to sit on a school of thread. Oh that's charming, you know, sweeping with a piece of grass, that kind of thing. But you know, this isn't a familiar book to you. 00:37:39 Speaker 2: Know, Oh, there's a mole. There's like this little mole that around in the ground. 00:37:44 Speaker 4: But they love their characters over They have so many weird little characters. 00:37:47 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard to and most of them seemingly end up dead or violent. 00:37:54 Speaker 2: They had it coming bound? 00:37:56 Speaker 3: Does Bold. 00:37:59 Speaker 2: A famous? 00:38:00 Speaker 3: He's a puppet? Oh okay? 00:38:02 Speaker 2: Loaf of bread. 00:38:02 Speaker 3: Loaf of Bread has depression. 00:38:04 Speaker 2: And it's on a children's show. Okay, And he's bant Barn the bread and he's on it. He has his own children show. It is for children, and he's extremely depressed and has suicidal ideation and that's the whole bit. And so he's just they replay these clips and he's just depressed and he doesn't want to like get up, and he doesn't really want to open the blinds. 00:38:27 Speaker 3: Now it is his biological or circumstantial. 00:38:29 Speaker 2: I think a bit about I think he's kind of writing bread right, and he's kind of writing his own future a little bit. He has his very furrowed brow. You know, he's just really going through it, and it's sort of like why are we having children? Kind of look up to it. Guys. It's a strange culture. 00:38:45 Speaker 3: Kids love this. 00:38:46 Speaker 4: He's relatable, like he tells like I think an Oscar because he's like, yeah, he doesn't really like people. But it's because he's like just really going through some things. 00:38:57 Speaker 5: You know. 00:38:57 Speaker 2: He's on a band too. 00:38:59 Speaker 4: I think, oh, that sounds right. I wouldn't be surprised. 00:39:01 Speaker 3: It was on tour and stuff German Industrial bank, yeah, yeah, the warehouses, yeah, good stuff. Times. Have you ever been to a club in Germany? I wouldn't get in. 00:39:14 Speaker 2: I honestly you might get in just because you so wouldn't get do you know what I mean? Like sometimes like this, you're trying too hard, you think you're going to get in, and so I feel like lesson right, you're going to be punished in the club. I lived in Berlin for a while, did you. Yeah, and my I always said, I'm really actually very busy tonight when people said we're going to go to that big what was. 00:39:38 Speaker 3: Wow to actually say it like a German kind kind I'm it's that's the most famous one of all. 00:39:45 Speaker 2: Yeah, we read reviews of it on our show. We read reviews on our podcast, by the way, and you read reviews and the people complaining that they didn't get in, it's very delightful. 00:39:54 Speaker 3: I'm sorry that that is not a yell review. You can't complain about not getting in. 00:39:58 Speaker 2: Actually you can complain about anything. 00:40:02 Speaker 3: About the complaints once you've got it. 00:40:05 Speaker 2: No, you're right, you're right. Which those are fun too because then you're like, what. 00:40:11 Speaker 3: Place? 00:40:11 Speaker 2: Oh, just like a lot of uh, performative erotica. 00:40:18 Speaker 3: Probably a lot of things happening around the urine, a lot of urinal probably. Oh yeah. The Europeans and their troughs. We feel kind of thing the trough situation. I kind of like the troughs. I go to the fair, you know something about it? It's like a fishing It's you had. 00:40:35 Speaker 2: That one pink urine all and now you're just all about a trough. 00:40:38 Speaker 4: I mean look, yeah, like I said, I wouldn't install a journal, I would install a trough in my bathroom. 00:40:43 Speaker 3: You love the sound of pe on metal. Yeah, it's like productive. 00:40:47 Speaker 4: It feels productive, like I want to be able to hear that I'm doing something percussive. 00:40:50 Speaker 3: It is, ultimately it is, but the room matters. That's important, right right, Okay, So people are just having like probably weird uh ins in bear Kind. Yeah, I'm now an official in be Kind. 00:41:03 Speaker 2: Yeah hell yeah, No, I've never been never, never tried, no, never I was able to. I was invited to go by my cool our cooler older cousin, but I just was bailed. 00:41:17 Speaker 4: So I played magic the gathering in Berlin. 00:41:19 Speaker 3: That's what I thought. You're going to say, you played it in bear Kind. Now, honestly, they probably do. 00:41:24 Speaker 2: They probably let you in. 00:41:25 Speaker 3: They probably like into that. Weirdly, Yeah, that brings like a new thing to the club, just. 00:41:30 Speaker 4: A little magic the gathering table in the corner. 00:41:32 Speaker 3: You're not just there to do molly or whatever or why not both? You can do both. That's what I did when I went and played magic. I actually feel like that's more of a cocaine place. What do you think? I wonder what drugs are you doing there? This is why I can't get in. Yeah, yeah, I have no idea. I don't know. 00:41:49 Speaker 2: There's probably some exclusive club to the drugs to the club like nicknames for everything that like, well, clearly they they like to kind of brand. 00:41:57 Speaker 3: The Germans are so good with words, let's be honest, have so many amazing words for different experiences. Yeah, that's our most what are there's some other kind of in the category of shottenfreid Right, I'm trying to think of that. 00:42:11 Speaker 2: Geys. 00:42:12 Speaker 3: Guys is such a good word. So neither of you been to a German club. 00:42:16 Speaker 2: I've been to like a German club, but not like as cool as that. 00:42:19 Speaker 3: Right, more barge. They do like to like dancing at a bar in Berlin. 00:42:25 Speaker 2: They try to make everything weird, so even the like kind of off off Broadway, off grind like clubs have like alien like creatures on the ceiling, like it's weird. They're funky, you know they over there? 00:42:39 Speaker 3: Yeah? 00:42:39 Speaker 1: Are you? 00:42:39 Speaker 7: Oh? 00:42:40 Speaker 3: Go ahead? I was just going to say. 00:42:41 Speaker 4: I also played a lot of table tennis when I was there. Interesting, Yeah, oh I haven't seen it, But I didn't even know about table tennis until like reviews started coming out, like oh, yes, this looks right up my alley tennis heavy also very judgmental of table tennis media because I played competitively in college. I don't want to rip, right, but yeah, and so when I see these like show and I'm like, that's not how the ball moves. And also it's not how the rules work, they get on their side so much like that doesn't work. 00:43:06 Speaker 3: Well, you've had to go and certify it. 00:43:08 Speaker 4: You know what that should be a job someone like it's like some sort of script coordinator but sitizer, but it's for table tennis specifically. 00:43:15 Speaker 3: The most annoying person to ever guess, Yeah, and it would be me, and I welcome very very good at it. I would be so good at that. 00:43:22 Speaker 2: I once made a documentary about his competitive table tennis team college. 00:43:25 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:43:25 Speaker 2: We went to college in DC and I had a class I studied journalism broadcasting and I had a class on sports media. And I'm not really equipped for this, and they said, well, you have to do it. You have to find a do a final project. And my brother just joined a table tennis club at GW, so I said, okay, I'll do a sports documentary and I went to their competition in Marylands. 00:43:47 Speaker 3: Due, Maryland, Yeah, and all lost. 00:43:50 Speaker 2: I was really dramatic and I made it. I turned it into kind of more of like a like a Bravo adjacent I mean, for what for months? It's great though my perspective twenty years ago. But it was like this guy Neil was like feeling down and he was kind of starting to cry. And then my brother was all mad because nobody was following the rules, and I got all the like kind of drama, and then my teacher was like, this is not about the sport, and I'm like, I know, but it's. 00:44:12 Speaker 4: Like better, you know, And I got to be it was pretty good. 00:44:15 Speaker 3: That feels like an HM, may thank you. That's an original take on a bunch of annoying losers like everyone else bad. No, you're not wrong, You're not wrong. 00:44:25 Speaker 2: It's exactly right. That was the name of the documentary, but an interesting take. 00:44:29 Speaker 3: On a bunch of Do you still have a documentary? 00:44:35 Speaker 5: You know? 00:44:35 Speaker 2: I ended up removing it from YouTube because someone found it was so racist. I mean, honestly, at this point, I'm like, I don't know what if I want to stand by whatever I said fifteen years ago, I know there was a lot of zooming in on my brother's face. 00:44:47 Speaker 4: Yeah, it would be like people talking about like, oh, like, we got to take this seriously, and then it's like all me being all serious. And then the guy who was like kind of the clown of it all was trying to make everyone laugh. But then he was like taking it pretty seriously. Boy like didn't want people. 00:44:59 Speaker 2: To know, disappointed himself, and there was something there. I tell you what, I had, something I had. 00:45:04 Speaker 3: The professionals were great. 00:45:07 Speaker 4: She would take this aside and like just ask this question, what. 00:45:09 Speaker 2: Do you really feel about my brother? 00:45:11 Speaker 3: Yeah? 00:45:12 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And I was I'm the one who was like, they're not taking this seriously enough. I need them to focus. And then I lost every single game I played. 00:45:20 Speaker 3: I didn't win a single You were focused on the wrong thing. You should have just gotten in there and been part of the game rather than criticized. Yeah. I learned a less again, learning a lesson. 00:45:28 Speaker 2: You know he needs here as well, A little threatened a little bit. What are you Gemini? I knew it. 00:45:36 Speaker 5: I knew. 00:45:38 Speaker 3: I haven't written on a piece of paper here. Yeah, oh boy. Do you stay in touch with anybody from the table tennis team? 00:45:48 Speaker 4: No, I did see someone. We we we saw someone who like on tour I was. We were in Philadelphia and someone who I played on the team with reached out Dustin and he lived there, and he came and I got to see him for the first time in years and it was really fun. But no, I don't have any friends from college. 00:46:05 Speaker 2: All of the years of college, right, we were in some dark places. 00:46:09 Speaker 4: I was not very good at that. I'm still not very good at that old friends thing. 00:46:12 Speaker 2: That's tough. 00:46:12 Speaker 3: That's tough. I'm not good at the table tennis thing. I don't think I've ever successfully hit a You have that in common compared to me, I mean it would be you're you have interdimensional technology compared to us. It's humiliating. 00:46:29 Speaker 4: I mean, I bought my own paddle, so that good for you. 00:46:33 Speaker 3: Thank you. Do you have to like get it fit to your hand? 00:46:36 Speaker 4: No, but there are different So you get the blade and then you get the side. Yeah, the blade is like what you get the wooden? Like, all right, let's relax without without the soft parts on it, and then you put these you can have different like amounts of spin, amounts of power, different like gripped, different bounciness. 00:46:57 Speaker 3: Or whatever official title for the soft parts. I haven't I should know the blade and giblets. Yeah, you cover the blade with giblets. That's accurate. 00:47:10 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:47:10 Speaker 3: Do you have a table at home? No? I haven't played here. It's been so Yeah. 00:47:16 Speaker 4: They do have like they have like these uh pong pods or something ping pod. 00:47:20 Speaker 3: I don't know. 00:47:21 Speaker 4: They have a location where you can go and rent a table and it's like twenty for seven while you go and enter code and just go in and play. 00:47:27 Speaker 3: So I've done that a couple of time. Very bird, be kind, very Yes, you have to be let in with my ex and oh boy, yeah, well the end that was probably the end of it for you. Yeah, twenty four hour ping Punk Club. 00:47:40 Speaker 4: It's one of those things like when you see me do something like that, it's like, oh, this is not who I thought he was. 00:47:47 Speaker 5: You know. 00:47:47 Speaker 4: I think she saw a side of me that she didn't like. 00:47:49 Speaker 2: Oh your ex yeah. 00:47:51 Speaker 3: Oh and just raw sexuality. Yeah, it's too much. 00:47:55 Speaker 4: It was too much to handle. I really, I really think that's. 00:47:58 Speaker 7: What it was. 00:47:58 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's too bad. 00:48:00 Speaker 2: I thought you had to set the record straight though on the podcast. 00:48:02 Speaker 7: Yeah. 00:48:03 Speaker 3: Wow, Well is there anything left to say about Let me try again. Now, I'm gonna really try shroupin' Peter, shrovel Peter. Yeah. 00:48:12 Speaker 2: If you look at the first page, it describes him like just individual. It might not be the first page, but it has his image and color, and I think that you'd be remiss to not see the first page. 00:48:24 Speaker 3: Has got a gorgeous angel and beautiful children. Oh, here we go. Then there's a note. Let's well, let's first look at this. 00:48:29 Speaker 2: This is the devil, shockheaded Peter. 00:48:32 Speaker 3: That's uh. 00:48:33 Speaker 2: He does have a low center gravity now that I can't see it now. 00:48:36 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's all torso. But it says just look at him. There he stands with his nasty hair and hands. See his nails are never cut, they are grimmed as black as soot, and the Slovan I declare never once has combed his hair. This is a hit piece. Anything to me is sweeter than to see shock headed Peter who like perspective, whose perspective. 00:48:59 Speaker 2: Is that That's what I don't understand. It's like, is that, am I it's going to become him? Am I perceiving him like my kind. 00:49:07 Speaker 3: Of And Peter never gets a fair deal. 00:49:09 Speaker 2: No, And it's like, well, maybe he's never taught to comb his hair. 00:49:13 Speaker 3: Like, yeah, let us get to know him first, give us neutral facts rather than this whole editorialized nastiness. 00:49:20 Speaker 2: It seems a little biased. 00:49:21 Speaker 4: Because I've only heard, like, before reading this book, I'd heard that he was like a really like nice, got pretty decent person, super good at table. I heard nothing bad about him until this book came out and everything's changed. And now it's like, Okay, we're focusing on the nails, Like, it doesn't feel right to me. 00:49:39 Speaker 3: Yeah, the nails are are tough. I mean it's like that lady. You remember the lady? 00:49:43 Speaker 2: I remember that? 00:49:43 Speaker 3: Okay, have to say anything else? The lady like thinking of opening in his book of world records, Like, yeah, i think it was all broke off in a car accident. I'm pretty sure that's what happened, which. 00:50:03 Speaker 2: It feels right. 00:50:03 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a cautionary tale. 00:50:05 Speaker 2: Yeah, what is she driving? 00:50:07 Speaker 3: I think she was driving, probably trying to change the radio with those things. Oh yeah, no, no, imagine that being your the thing people know about you, and then the breaking up the chorus. 00:50:19 Speaker 2: And being like, well, that's It's like when people who do sports like break their leg and they're like, I'm done. Yeah, I'm done. 00:50:24 Speaker 3: I'm nothing. Yeah, Oh my god, thing's stark. Okay, let's look at this. Note says dear Bridger. We are honored to pass on our generational trauma. Welcome to the family, Christine and Zandy. Uh yeah, it does feel a little bit like uh, The Ring, Jason, I would say, yeah, this evil person. I'm shock this hasn't been a movie. 00:50:47 Speaker 2: It has apparently, well I googled it earlier and it said, oh, that's been made into a theater play called Shockheaded Peter. And then I think it's been adapted into a movie. I don't know. 00:50:58 Speaker 3: That's what the one of those movies that you would get red box seven. 00:51:03 Speaker 2: And then it just kind of disappears from Bain situation. 00:51:07 Speaker 3: Well, I'm writing the movie next. Nobody steal that from me. I love it, We love I p. 00:51:13 Speaker 2: That Heinrich eighteen sixties. Of course, because friend knew it was a gold mine. You know, we've got to get those. 00:51:21 Speaker 3: Couple of media empires friend of the original annoying executive. I think we should play a game. I love game. We're going to play Gift or a Curse. How would you say that in German? Oh? 00:51:32 Speaker 2: Good question is gift shank which yeah, here's a present? Yeah, a curse. Yeah, that's one of those. I don't necessarily Catholic kids. 00:51:46 Speaker 3: We weren't allowed to learn words like that, the worst words. Right right, Well, we're going to play Gift or a Curse. I need a number between one and ten from you. Seven. Okay, I have to do some light calculating to get our game pieces. So right now, you can promote, recommend do whatever you want. I'll be right back. Okay. 00:52:02 Speaker 4: We do have recommendation is we host a podcast about negative online reviews. So our recommendation is don't do that, don't write those. 00:52:12 Speaker 2: Oh that's our that's our premix today. Yeah, our podcast beach. Do you see any water to wet? If you actually want to listen to it, it's uh, I don't. It's more of this, so I don't blame you if it's not your thing, but we do read one surveys from yelp, Yeah, of berg Heid and other places. 00:52:28 Speaker 3: Gorgeous everybody, go listen to the podcast. It's fun. We have fun. It's such a good idea and I feel like you guys have been copied by a lot of people at this point, not successfully. I have no idea. 00:52:42 Speaker 4: I don't, but no, I think it's fun because we do get to be like just we're siblings, so it's like a unique thing and just like goofing off. 00:52:50 Speaker 2: And when we came up with it, we were like, certainly someone's done this before, so we were actually very shocked nobody had so we don't really take credit for that, but apparently we were the first one. 00:53:00 Speaker 3: And it's an endless well of complaining. 00:53:02 Speaker 4: And you never don't need people to keep writing them like people, you can stop. 00:53:05 Speaker 3: You don't have to. 00:53:07 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can stop writing one ser that's okay, we have plenty, don't worry. 00:53:10 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, this is how we play Gift or a Curse. I'm going to name three things. You're gonna tell me if they're a gift or a curse and why, and then I'll tell you if you're a right wrong, because there are correct answer it and you have to you too, have to decide between the two of you. Oh, and we have to come to an agreement. Yes, yeah, we're gonna be here a while. Uhh, that's how I extend this podcast. I'm padding the podcast. Okay. This first one is from a listener named Kelsey. Gift to a curse when the server boxes up your leftovers for you. Oh okay, I think, gift, Why I. 00:53:44 Speaker 2: Don't you know when you slide it off the plate and then all of a sudden, the whole side of the plate has like sauce on it, and you look like you just don't know how to eat food, and it's just sitting in front of you, and you're like, now, I look like I don't know how to eat. 00:53:55 Speaker 4: Make a mess moving food from the plate to my mouth, right, let alone from my plate to another container that's not my melt, because that I have a little more control, Like it's just I'm used to that. 00:54:07 Speaker 3: But when I'm putting it into a box, it's also very shaky and always shaking. Probably, And what's the correct answer, You're wrong, curse, absolute curse. I do not trust them taking that back to the kitchen. I'm not getting everything on the plate. You think they're not scraping every bit back into the box. They don't care about me. They might be taking a bite or taking some home for themselves, those selfish white step servers. The service industry is you g littered with selfish, overpaid people. I take it back. Yeah, write more one star reviews people. If this is what's happening, that's true. 00:54:47 Speaker 2: It's really unaccepted. 00:54:48 Speaker 3: That's a thievery. No I want. I'm doing it myself. Bring me the box, I will. I'll make sure I get every piece of spaghetti in there fair enough, all of the sauce. 00:54:58 Speaker 4: I would make you do it for me, like i'd make someone else at my table. It's like weaponized, Like I try not to do that, but this is one of those things where I'm actually incompetent. 00:55:06 Speaker 3: You've got to practice at home. I'd rather not to go boxes than to sit at the kitchen table. And eventually you'll be so good at ten thousand hours. Is that what? Yeah? 00:55:17 Speaker 4: I think that's where it's something else. 00:55:20 Speaker 3: And imagine that after all that, you go out to eat with some friends, how impressed they'll be when you. 00:55:24 Speaker 2: But imagine the services. I'll go do that in the back and he's like you. 00:55:27 Speaker 3: Pull it out of their hands. My fund opportunity. I was finally going to test it, follow them into the kitchen. Maybe it is a curse, right, okay, okay, well you've gotten zero, right, so that feels that feels right? All right. This next one is from a listener named Maura Nora. Well, you know there might be a Mara out in the world. Is that a name anything? 00:55:48 Speaker 5: A name. 00:55:50 Speaker 3: Gift or a curse? When you have to confirm your new password and the text box immediately tells you that they don't. 00:55:57 Speaker 2: Curse, I mean, this feels like a trick question. 00:56:02 Speaker 3: I don't care. 00:56:03 Speaker 4: That makes me mad for no reason. I don't have a good reason. Oh no, that's for my therapist thing. 00:56:08 Speaker 3: I don't know. 00:56:08 Speaker 4: Whenever I see that, I think, of course it doesn't like it's not even I just started, you know, but I guess how else would it work? 00:56:15 Speaker 2: What I don't think is maybe alchemize that energy? Right, So you're looking at what does that mean? You're looking at it? You're going, how dare you? Computer? Instead you can look at it and go, oh sad, computer. It'll never take over, you know. I can't even figure out that, like this is my new. 00:56:29 Speaker 4: Password, So I just like treat it like an idiot and be like a stupid computer. Just you really thought that was the same as one character vers twelve Oh with love. Yeah, I'm gonna I have to find a balance because so what do you think? You think it's a curse or a gift? 00:56:43 Speaker 2: Absolutely, no idea, Okay, no idea is not an answer. 00:56:47 Speaker 3: That is a terrible answer. 00:56:48 Speaker 5: Curse. 00:56:49 Speaker 3: I think it's a curse. 00:56:49 Speaker 2: It pisses me off, too. 00:56:50 Speaker 3: Wrong. No, I knew if I'd love to slap in the face. It's a splash of cold water, electrified curse. We're also not mom line makes you feel alive? Oh my god, nothing. 00:57:03 Speaker 2: Does so fragile. I think we're too fragile. 00:57:06 Speaker 3: You need that little shock that'll wake you up in the morning of wrong, my brain does that format every day. 00:57:11 Speaker 4: It shocks me with some some your new freaking thing to think about that. 00:57:17 Speaker 3: I don't like shock, sandy, Yeah, no, you need to see that little red text wrong past or incorrect? 00:57:23 Speaker 2: Actually too, you really think like you wouldn't be kind of like on edge without that. 00:57:28 Speaker 3: You think that's yes, absolutely really. 00:57:31 Speaker 4: What if it has like all four at the same time where it says, oh, you don't have any special characters? It's not the same one. You put one thing in and it just has a list of all these things you're doing wrong. Immediately, it's like, give me a chance to like prove myself first, like immediately, like it's that's that's, that's our childhood. 00:57:47 Speaker 3: You start to do something, No, you're wrong. Don't ever do that again. You can't learn. I would just want to learn. My computers keep me from doing that. Your computer is actually kind of true at this point. The amount I haven't learned due to my computer at this point, it's pretty shocking. There was a huge period where I was learning from it, and now it's over. The computer does not allow me to go to their comfort zone, have endless resources to learn on it, and yet it doesn't happen. Okay, so you've gotten zero out of two, so be very careful with this last one. This is from a listener named Alison Gift. Or a curse when people remove their high heels at weddings and dance in their bare feet. 00:58:29 Speaker 4: As someone who's seen a lot of Long Island weddings where glass ends up on the dance floor multiple of those, I'd say it's a curse, Like I get it, but also It's like when you're driving, it's like you gotta pay attention to the other people. Like it's not that you're a bad driver. It's like not bad that you're doing that, but other people drop their glasses, other people make a mess and it's sticky and gross. So why are you doing that to yourself? It's like the airport in bare feet and like going through security, like why are you doing that to yourself? 00:59:01 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess my question is what's the po V? Because if it's like I'm an I'm a caterer at the wedding. 00:59:07 Speaker 4: Well caterers do that where they know that certainly a curso for a catering company, Oh that's interesting. Yeah, to get everyone on the dance floor, they take their heels off. 00:59:20 Speaker 3: I don't know what's going on. I'm sorry, I'll be quiet. 00:59:23 Speaker 2: Be quiet, okay. Like when if i'm if I'm catering and I see a bunch of people like taking their shoes off, I'm like, here we go, okay. You know, maybe it's like a peace to look at or what what do you mean? 00:59:32 Speaker 7: Here we go? 00:59:32 Speaker 2: It's a curse, like, oh god, the wedding's going, you know, the way weddings go if I'm if I'm there and I have high heels on, then I'm taking them off and it's a gift because I don't want to wear them anymore. 00:59:42 Speaker 4: So you don't have an answer again, just checking checking, carry as are these correct answers? Your answers are the listeners answers universal. 00:59:55 Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't mean, I don't make the rules me, I don't know. 00:59:58 Speaker 2: That was such a silly ques Like it's really hard for us to be hearing you're getting zero right, and we're like, we're gonna disappoint. 01:00:04 Speaker 3: What what are the rules? What's the like? 01:00:06 Speaker 2: Oh no, in Germany's gonna be so disappointed. 01:00:09 Speaker 4: He's our number one warner, any more disappointed in me than he already is. The first words he said when I landed and showed up at the like he picked me up at the airport and he said, I thought you'd be taller, and I thought your German would be better. That's the first two things he said. 01:00:23 Speaker 3: It's a very gay thing to say, right, And it's like he could have been so fun that's so funny. 01:00:31 Speaker 4: Anyway, I think it's curse. I'm gonna say curse. 01:00:36 Speaker 3: Correct You've got one right, total curse. You're not a free spirit. Get real, Madison or whoever you are. This isn't your rom calm. We don't need to see you letting loose journey. If you wanted to dance, you shouldn't have worn the shoes, or you should dance in the shoes, or you should have brought separate footwear. But I don't want to see you barefoot on the dance floor living it up with the flowers in your hair. It's annoying, it's spilling grows. 01:01:05 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I've been there, I've done that, so I can say confidently I agree with you. Yeah, pretty gnarly. 01:01:12 Speaker 3: No, nobody wants that, and I think it's really we've got to do away. 01:01:16 Speaker 2: We've got to figure it out. 01:01:18 Speaker 3: Weddings should have like a rental, like bowling shoes where you go, like if you did wear. 01:01:23 Speaker 2: He anyone's just sliding and literally bowling shoes a size twelve men's. 01:01:34 Speaker 3: Blood every now, no socks allowed. 01:01:39 Speaker 2: The catering is barefoot disaster. 01:01:43 Speaker 3: Oh well, you got one right. That's pretty good. That's really good surprise. Yeah, that's an excellent score. 01:01:51 Speaker 2: Three, I'll take it. 01:01:52 Speaker 3: Who could complain? About that, Ellis, do you have a gift to a curse? I do. Elie is going to do one where we all have to answer least levels of playing field. 01:02:01 Speaker 4: He's left everyone to everyone else. You haven't given us a. 01:02:06 Speaker 2: Gift or a curse. 01:02:07 Speaker 4: When Americans use military time. 01:02:11 Speaker 3: Oh no, oh, this is an interesting one for you guys. As someone who does it. 01:02:15 Speaker 2: You do that, he does that. 01:02:16 Speaker 4: But I was from when I my first iPhone was when I lived in Germany, and so it was just normal and I. 01:02:22 Speaker 3: Left it that way. 01:02:23 Speaker 2: I love an angel number. 01:02:25 Speaker 4: Yeah, so she'll be like eleven eleven. I'm like, it's actually twenty three eleven right now. 01:02:31 Speaker 2: So that tells you all. You need to talk about me. 01:02:33 Speaker 3: All day long. 01:02:34 Speaker 4: It's like five fifty five. It's like, no, it's seventeen fifty five right now. 01:02:37 Speaker 3: That's that's so. That's anyway. You are lucky. She keeps you in her life. 01:02:46 Speaker 2: Thank you. 01:02:46 Speaker 4: Every day it's like a new a. It's never the same one. It's like, oh, it's eleven eleven. The next day it's like, oh, it's different days. 01:02:52 Speaker 3: I know, I know. 01:02:53 Speaker 4: I'm just saying, it's just like none of them are right on my phone I don't see. 01:02:57 Speaker 2: Them, okay. Anyway, I dated a guy in the army, just yeah, and he was all about the military time, and it became like such an annoyance to me, I you know. 01:03:09 Speaker 4: Especially if things were more military time in the US, like if that was anyone actually used it for anything at all other than military, Why are you doing it? 01:03:20 Speaker 3: Like, what's the point. 01:03:21 Speaker 2: Unless you're like practicing to go true abroad and you need to do the math. 01:03:25 Speaker 4: That was the first thing I did it to like learn it, and now I got used to it. 01:03:28 Speaker 3: But I don't know. 01:03:29 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's what do you do? 01:03:31 Speaker 2: Show me your phone? 01:03:32 Speaker 3: What's your I'm just a normal person, okay, okay, one one, three guys thirteen thirteen thirteen. 01:03:40 Speaker 2: Wow, military time. 01:03:44 Speaker 3: Thirteen thirteen. I can't be anything. Sound good. 01:03:48 Speaker 2: The page I told you to turn to was thirteen. So this all feels. 01:03:54 Speaker 3: Interesting. 01:03:55 Speaker 4: The amount of curses that she brings up day to day. 01:03:58 Speaker 3: It's like, well invited to German witches on my podcast, Thank you so Much, Clock Warlock. 01:04:08 Speaker 2: I saw myself in the antagonists of these children's stories. 01:04:11 Speaker 7: I was like. 01:04:13 Speaker 4: Hungry witch to the boy who didn't get enough soup, so he died and there's this grave at the end of the story. 01:04:19 Speaker 2: There's one where his grave has a ball of soup, but because he didn't eat enough soup and. 01:04:23 Speaker 4: He died literally withered away like chows, him getting smaller and smaller until he's like a grave. 01:04:31 Speaker 2: Anyway. 01:04:32 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's a curse. I think it's you know, this is the sort of thing when somebody again, it's like someone goes off for a semester of broad or whatever. They so interesting, they're off for six months. They're throwing you into their words and they're doing the backwards dates. Everyone hates them. Barcelona enough enough of that kind. 01:05:00 Speaker 1: Uh. 01:05:00 Speaker 3: No, I think it's a total curse. Yeah, when in Rome, come on, literally, except for I guess except for in this particular Rome, they probably might they probably might be helpful for that, right, that's only Yeah, that's tough. But yeah, I think it's a curse. 01:05:15 Speaker 2: Thirteen enough. Yeah, it's absolutely a curse. It's always done by some kid named Corey who likes to duty. 01:05:23 Speaker 3: You're not you're from Indiana. Call of duty. 01:05:27 Speaker 2: Oh my god, you're from Indiana, Alexander, and you've got to change your phone right now all time. Yeah, you're getting roasted. 01:05:34 Speaker 4: This is rough a kid from Indiana playing Call of duty. Like if it were Ohio, it'd be me growing up. 01:05:39 Speaker 3: It's a very transition lenses definitely kind of thing. Oh boy, Yeah, complete package. In hindsight, it was the right move all. 01:05:48 Speaker 2: I want to save myself a lot of like knee pain and back pain. 01:05:51 Speaker 4: I have a horrible posture, and I blame my backpack and not my laziness and willingness to have good posture. 01:05:59 Speaker 3: We all won on that one. Yeah, for us, for us for being right on some things. All right, I need some help answering a question. People are writing into I said no gives at gmail dot com with all sorts of questions. Their lives are misses. We help me answer something. I'll do my best. Okay, let's see here. But bu bu bu buh Okay. This is deer Bridger. My wife and I are moving from Georgia to Iowa in March. We have five cats. The logistics are overwhelming. How do we transport all five cats across the country? Do we drive fourteen hours straight stop at a cat friendly hotel? How would that go? Help? And then they give us the information here two cars, two people, five cats, fourteen hours. Well, and that's from. 01:06:41 Speaker 2: Hannah driving at sixty five miles per hour for six. 01:06:44 Speaker 3: Hours and the train is going. Okay, So Hannah, first of all, I have a problem here when you say across the country and you're saying from Georgia to Iowa, that's not across the country. You it's east to west. If we're saying. 01:07:00 Speaker 2: Across the country sort of, Yeah, that's not quite the same. That's not a lot, that's a lie you military time. 01:07:05 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's wrong. 01:07:08 Speaker 4: What's your version of the country, Like, as if that's. 01:07:10 Speaker 3: And this person's allowed to drive it? 01:07:13 Speaker 4: Crazy to me, at least there are no kids involved, just cats, right five. 01:07:20 Speaker 3: So she and the wife are trying to get across, not across debt. What is it job over from Georgia up, They're trying to get up the country. They're climbing the country. 01:07:33 Speaker 2: Middle America, crossing Middle America. Yeah, okay, I drove from California to Kentucky with my cat. Now the old Goden has become he's traumatized. It took him a while right back in I don't want to be that guy, but it did take him like three years to fait three years to get back to like normal, And it was terrible because it was we moved during COVID. It was twenty twenty literally May, and we we're traveling and there were no hotels open, and we had this cat and a dog, and our poor cat was like so freaked out. My advice is keep them in the carrier, because everyone says that, and then you're sitting there and you're like, oh, but like he's so scared and sad, and I want to just like open it a little bit and then oh my god, hell breaks loose and we're on anyway, be very careful because I thought I could like let him poke his head out. Big mistake. 01:08:21 Speaker 3: That's a huge mistake. My friend was traveling with her cats at the airport and she was at JFK and they make you take the cats out. Oh she was going to get on the plane. The cat's peed all over her. No, this was before she got on the floor. 01:08:36 Speaker 2: Oh my god. So keep them in there, keep them in, keep them contained, even if they're freaking out, Like keep them contained. 01:08:42 Speaker 3: But for fourteen hours, I guess you go to the cat friendly hotel. 01:08:47 Speaker 2: You went to a cat fridly hotel. Dog for oh, I don't know. It was just kind of like the middle of COVID whatever we could find and then whatever that roote is in the middle of nowhere, and we stayed in like random places and just let the dog and cat kind of run around. 01:08:58 Speaker 3: Just pee wherever they wanted, get this out of their system. Yeah, she was like, the help will get it. 01:09:05 Speaker 2: And we brought They actually sell little litter boxes that you can like then throw away, like they're like two postable Yeah, and so we bought a bunch of those. So those are really handy because then you don't need to like clean and have everything. There are definitely some supplies you can CEBD. 01:09:19 Speaker 3: You know. I just actually affect them. I don't know. 01:09:22 Speaker 2: I love just try. 01:09:24 Speaker 3: I'm not ever try. I'm not doing this. I just never do. Yeah. I like because they're so annoying sometimes. Don't wake me up. 01:09:30 Speaker 4: It's going to give you drugs. That's what I do on myself. 01:09:32 Speaker 3: Why not a cat? Of course. 01:09:33 Speaker 2: I wonder if it'll be better because they are now. I wonder how you split them up though in the cars. 01:09:39 Speaker 3: I think all of them in one car and the other person gets to have the time of their life. I love that. Yeah, then you get divorced. 01:09:44 Speaker 2: That's perfect. Well yeah, but like you didn't have to be in the car right exactly. 01:09:48 Speaker 4: Exactly, because yeah, it's either one's going to be maybe really loud, especially if they're screamers these cats. I love a cat who yells, but not fourteen hours in the car, So it might just be one car of screaming in the other just a lovely time. 01:10:02 Speaker 3: Yeah, you just put them on a bus, yeah, to Iowa, and then you too get to drive your cars. You can follow the bus, cut the bus off if you feel like and I'd love to cut off. Yeah, give. 01:10:18 Speaker 2: You know how you like to feel alive? And your password is doing you just get a little jolt shop. 01:10:24 Speaker 3: You've got two cars, one person should absolutely have all of the animals. 01:10:27 Speaker 2: Cats go in one container or are they like they go in. 01:10:30 Speaker 3: One tupperware container. Yeah, I did this. 01:10:37 Speaker 2: I didn't do it well and I so I I just wanted to say cautionary tale. I think you've got you're going to figure it out. 01:10:44 Speaker 4: You're just from my experience with cats, they're resilient, like they're they they'll be fine. And I think like trying not to put your own emotions and feelings on your cats, because what you're dealing with watching them, it's like they might not feel that way. They be a lot more fine than you think. 01:10:59 Speaker 3: And have to remember that they hate you. Yeah, no matter what. Yeah, this isn't going to change much, right, go to the vet. They might have something to give them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, as a professional. Why are you asking here? Because you know, because I am certified. I've refreshed my certificate every year so I can speak to animal. You can help. I can speak animal. Put the cats on the phone with me the whole time, speak a. 01:11:28 Speaker 2: Podcast on the whole drive fourteen hours. That's a great, great way to do it. 01:11:34 Speaker 3: Listen, Hannah, it's not going to work. Just stay in Georgia. 01:11:38 Speaker 4: Why are you moving to Iowa. That's a big problem. 01:11:41 Speaker 2: That's where I've hung up. 01:11:42 Speaker 3: You two are gonna have a lot of unhappy people in the Midwest. 01:11:46 Speaker 2: Yeah, we've just like Middle America, several countries. 01:11:49 Speaker 3: We're really happy with you Bridges. 01:11:52 Speaker 4: At least we're from Ohio, you know. Whenever, when I was from Ohio and then I moved to La so did everyone else from Ohio, it felt like, but people from Californian we're giving ship to Ohio and I'm like, stop that only I can do that. 01:12:04 Speaker 3: But I feel like I feel like it's like one of the safest, like there's really nothing to make fun of with Ohio. 01:12:10 Speaker 7: To me, it's like so. 01:12:12 Speaker 2: Because it's the most like boring seeming state and like so high. 01:12:16 Speaker 4: It's so big, though, I think it's because there's so many people from Ohio and people don't underestimate how big it is. That they interact with a lot more people from Ohio than other states right from the Midwest, and they're like, oh Ohio and is fucking suck or something. 01:12:29 Speaker 3: I don't know. I never been, but I'm I'm a fan. 01:12:32 Speaker 4: It has a few great good cities and then a bunch of not as good cities. 01:12:35 Speaker 2: I think it's pretty close to Kentucky. 01:12:37 Speaker 3: Has some great theme parks. Theme parks right a Cedar Point Point, and then King's Island is our island. 01:12:44 Speaker 2: The beach water don't go to that one defunct. 01:12:48 Speaker 3: I think my life of going to water parks is probably think that's for the best for all that. 01:12:52 Speaker 4: I don't know when that happened for me, but I'm I don't want to was. 01:12:55 Speaker 2: The last day and the best, right, it just felt too gross. 01:12:58 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's some you're asking for it at a water park, that's right. Cautionary, cautionary that will be in the shock haired man's next destination. Well, I've got my thing, my book. I'm going to learn a lot of lessons here. Maybe I can finally begin living my life in a way that's correct to gay German. 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