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Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me.

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Speaker 2: All about that high school drama girl drama girl, all

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Speaker 2: about them.

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Speaker 3: High school queens. We'll take you for a ride. And

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Speaker 3: our comic girl cheered for the right team.

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Speaker 4: Drama queens Jyley's my girl, lough girl fashion, which you'll

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Speaker 4: tough girl, you could.

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Speaker 3: Sit with us.

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Speaker 2: Girl drama, Queens, drama, queense drama, Queens drama, drama, Queens

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Speaker 2: drama Queens.

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Speaker 5: All right, everybody, welcome in. We have a very special

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Speaker 5: fun one today, a bit of a two parter, which

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Speaker 5: is very appropriate considering our guest, because she was so

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Speaker 5: good that we had to bring her back twice in

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Speaker 5: that beautiful soap opera style where we slapped a wig

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Speaker 5: on her for an episode and hope the audience would

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Speaker 5: buy it. And thankfully, not because of the wig, but

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Speaker 5: because of her performance we did. Ladies and gents, please

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Speaker 5: welcome Amanda Schule.

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Speaker 6: That's probably my favorite intro ever.

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Speaker 5: Oh clip it.

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Speaker 6: Hi, Hi, my friends. I'm so happy to see you

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Speaker 6: from Afar. I wish it were less Afar.

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Speaker 4: You too, Where are you now? You're in a You're

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Speaker 4: in a fabulous tucked away little library at your parents house,

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Speaker 6: And then my parents' house in Honolulu.

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Speaker 5: Oh wow, okay wow, is it six eleven am right now? Okay,

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Speaker 5: So this is a perfect example snapshot of just how

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Speaker 5: professional and amazing Amanda is. Because it's eight am where

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Speaker 5: I am, and I didn't have the time. I put

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Speaker 5: on a hat that was about professionals I could get

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Speaker 5: for you all, Amanda looks like she just stepped out

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Speaker 5: of hair and makeup. It's all done, she's all dulled up.

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Speaker 5: It's six eleven, the roosters haven't even woken up yet,

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Speaker 5: and Amanda is on her Mark wardrobe, regular job.

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Speaker 6: But you are very kind.

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Speaker 7: That's that's that is the exact reason I showed up, buddy.

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Speaker 5: Let me tell you something, just to prove it all.

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Speaker 5: I always we don't get to see each other often.

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Speaker 5: We got to see each other at convention recently Wilmington,

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Speaker 5: and it was a blast because it was just a

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Speaker 5: reminder of how much I enjoy your company. But I haven't.

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Speaker 5: I left the show and I didn't ever revisit it.

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Speaker 5: So this doing this podcast is the first time I'm

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Speaker 5: rewatching episodes, and I remember the broad strokes of what

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Speaker 5: we did, right, But I forgot all of the nuance,

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Speaker 5: all of the small stuff, and so much of it.

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Speaker 5: And I got to say, watching you play Unhinged, Katie,

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Speaker 5: there was so much I'd forgotten about. But it is

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Speaker 5: so fun and juicy you play Psycho, and because I

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Speaker 5: know you in real life, it's even more enjoyable for me.

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Speaker 5: But you play unhinged so well, so committed to it.

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Speaker 6: You're very kind.

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Speaker 7: Wouldn't we all rather be crazy and mean than nice

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Speaker 7: on camera?

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Speaker 6: I mean, this is our opportunity, right.

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Speaker 4: Right, Yes, all the moments in real life where we

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Speaker 4: just want to be horrible and cheer not to because

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Speaker 4: we're civilized, kind human beings, we can let it all out.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: No, I mean the opportunities to just be like Cracker

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Speaker 7: Jacks is you know, one of the funnest parts of

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Speaker 7: our job, you know, so absolutely, I would you know,

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Speaker 7: just jump in the chance to have that opportunity any

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you It's we were saying this last week that

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Speaker 5: I think actors, most actors enjoy playing the opposite of

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Speaker 5: who they are in real life, Like nice people love

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Speaker 5: playing villains because they get to access and act on

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Speaker 5: a side of themselves that is very foreign you know,

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Speaker 5: and what you just said in mind, it's like Katie's

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Speaker 5: so funny because there is no high road, like you're

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Speaker 5: saying in your real life. How You're like, I'm gonna

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Speaker 5: be the mature adult and take Yeah, Katie just has

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Speaker 6: Yeah, she knew what she wanted. Listen, she's a professional

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Speaker 7: She knew what she wanted, and she was dedicated and

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Speaker 6: I mean, I love this.

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Speaker 4: I love the psychology of it too. That makes sense.

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Speaker 4: I wish I knew more about how Katie was that

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Speaker 6: Having them the best one dudes.

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Speaker 4: I guess Clay was just the one that pushed her

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Speaker 6: Right, and then to look at that face and that hat.

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Speaker 5: Oh guys, stop give me more. Feed my ego and

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Speaker 5: this right here, we're just going to kind of do

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Speaker 5: like a Q and A to talk about your experience

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Speaker 5: in the show. But I do want to say, speaking

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Speaker 5: of this the unhinged nature, it is funny that when

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Speaker 5: Katie clearly is starting to go cuckoo for cocoa puffs

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Speaker 5: and she's talking to her roommate played by Candae.

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Speaker 6: Pats more food analogies.

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Speaker 5: Okay, go on, yes, this is all I do. By

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Speaker 5: the way, is I riff? And it's either eighties references

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Speaker 5: that because when we see the roommate meet Clay, she's like, hey,

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Speaker 5: bud heads off her lithium and it's about to get bad.

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Speaker 5: I once I heard that piece of information, I wanted

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Speaker 5: to go back in time to the scene where Katie's

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Speaker 5: like doing her hair and she's like, he will be

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Speaker 4: The roommate was it, like this is weird.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you didn't smell what she was cooking.

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Speaker 4: Are you on your lithium or are you off it?

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Speaker 5: One hundred percent when someone when your roommate is looking

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Speaker 5: minutes going he will be mine, Yeah, there's like a

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Speaker 4: And how did she just wait for you to come

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Speaker 4: to her? Why was she not proactive? Like what is

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Speaker 5: Joy boundaries, classic enabler behavior.

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Speaker 7: But this also might not be the first time she's

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Speaker 7: had to be like, oh this again.

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Speaker 5: You know, well clearly not, because when Clay goes how

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Speaker 4: I'm so curious how you you know, before you started

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Speaker 4: playing cuckoo Katie, you came in and did such a

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Speaker 4: beautiful job as Sarah. You ripped our hearts out and

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Speaker 4: As he continued like the two right right, that che

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Speaker 7: Yes, it's to facilitate the regular you know, he was

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Speaker 7: his journey, and we need the audiences to understand who

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Speaker 7: he is going forward based on who he was frier

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Speaker 7: to meeting him. I wasn't told that I was dead.

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Speaker 7: When I what when?

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Speaker 6: I yeah, shot Sarah no way real. Yeah, I wasn't

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Speaker 7: So Rob, you and I had a scene looking over

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Speaker 6: I was wearing like an orange kind of top.

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Speaker 7: My hair kept going to my face with windy and

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Speaker 7: I kept like touching you with my hand and they

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Speaker 7: maybe shooting a second episode. I can't remember exactly when

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Speaker 7: I was told, oh, bt dubs, you're dead.

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Speaker 4: That is so surprising that they just didn't tell you

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Speaker 7: Well, I think it's more just that it they wanted it.

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Speaker 7: It was a figment of his imagination and it was

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Speaker 7: I wasn't part of the decision making. They wanted it

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Speaker 5: M hmmm. When you auditioned, do you remember, was there

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Speaker 5: any material that would have foreshadowed the Katie arc? No?

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Speaker 6: No, no, no, Katie wasn't in the picture at all.

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Speaker 7: They after the three it was it was just a

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Speaker 4: I need more of it. It makes sense that they

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Speaker 7: I think we ran a little bit of a course

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Speaker 7: so we moved forward. Speaking of the cast of thousands,

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Speaker 6: Did this episode have? Fully moly, Yeah, there were a

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Speaker 6: lot of stories.

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Speaker 7: When I was watching it back, I was like, good grief.

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Speaker 6: But everyone seemed.

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Speaker 7: To get their share, Like, how was it even impossible?

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Speaker 7: With like forty three storylines? You felt like you got

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Speaker 7: enough of a taste of every single one of them.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, when you think about an ensemble, if you

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Speaker 5: have forty two minutes of content and you have let's

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Speaker 5: say seven main characters, you were really only given six minutes.

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Speaker 5: It's per character to tell a whole episode's worth of story.

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Speaker 5: And when you look at it like that, that's nothing.

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Speaker 6: Well, was that math that you did just now?

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Speaker 5: I started last night, I finished a couple of minutes ago.

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Speaker 5: Took me out.

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Speaker 6: Why was the hat right?

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Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, but yeah that's a challenge six minutes, you know,

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Speaker 5: But I agree with you. I thought the episode did

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Speaker 7: And thank you. I was a dancer. I mean I

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Speaker 6: Than I did. And so I went.

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Speaker 4: And that's amazing, No, it is to have that foresight

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Speaker 6: But I jumped higher, I kicked higher. I performed for

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Speaker 7: Everything to razzle dazzle that I thought would get me attention,

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Speaker 7: The company assistant came to me in the hall and

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Speaker 6: Script like a it was.

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Speaker 7: It was a Sony Pictures movie, so it was like

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Speaker 7: I had never seen one of those before, and in sides,

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Speaker 7: So I went home read the script and like in

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Speaker 7: I had three scenes I believe as Jodie Sawyer who

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Speaker 7: And it was Susan May Pratt's role, which is kind

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Speaker 7: So I went into the hall and I worked on it.

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Speaker 7: I found Jody. Sorry, I'm just going to get a

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Speaker 4: It's one of those classic Hollywood stories. It's it's just

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Speaker 7: And it's also just one of those classic like explanations

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Speaker 7: I feel like I was perfectly prepared for that role,

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Speaker 5: Had you ever taken acting classes? Did you have an

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Speaker 6: I had an interest.

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Speaker 7: I had never taken I mean maybe a couple of

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Speaker 5: Wow, that is so wild man. Well, we so we

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Speaker 5: May asks did you prefer playing Sweet Sarah or Psycho Katie?

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Speaker 7: Well, Sweet Sarah, you and I Rob had some really

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Speaker 4: Well, speaking of that, our next question is from Hennessy Nicole,

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Speaker 4: another nickname we have coming in here. She's asking, what

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Speaker 6: Care?

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Speaker 4: Did you take any inspiration from anyone?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 7: I didn't take any inspiration that I can think of

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Speaker 6: Oh you know what this? I mean, this is sort

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Speaker 4: I have not. I know I watched the first like

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Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, no, figure out, I don't even remember that.

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Speaker 6: You know what is like.

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Speaker 7: Kind of the best movie with a turn with a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh yeah, that's such a great movie.

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Speaker 5: I haven't seen.

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Speaker 4: I haven't seen Primal Fear.

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Speaker 5: And here's the problem is that because of the Internet. No,

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Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, man, I tried to watch what was

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Speaker 7: I don't know, man, interesting, Yeah, well, the Primal Fear

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Speaker 6: He is so good, he is so so good.

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Speaker 5: He's terrifying.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's committed.

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Speaker 4: I mean that's the thing. I think that's what makes

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Speaker 7: She's not doing these things to like upset any kind

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Speaker 6: She's doing these things because she needs to write. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: bad people don't know they're bad people. You know.

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Speaker 7: They everyone does something for a reason, and usually it's

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 7: And and I appreciate that because I your comments, thank you,

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Speaker 7: because I mean, you have to care about her. You

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Speaker 5: Too, And when you tap into that, it sort of

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Speaker 5: interesting villain same thing with heroes. It's like you want

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Speaker 5: If there's a little ugly, you're like, that sucks, but

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Speaker 5: oh it's human Like, it's it's fun when it's when

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't reduce someone down to a moment or

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Speaker 7: I mean, I think that's also kind of human nature's

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Speaker 7: something that like, for instance, I'm guilty of when somebody

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00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,919
Speaker 7: cuts you off in traffic, all they are is that

442
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 7: one thing that one maneuver, right, But the reason that

443
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,199
Speaker 7: they did that could be that they're they're rushing to

444
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 7: pick their kid up from school or you know.

445
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 6: They they're distracted because they have a family member who's ill,

446
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 6: or you know, whatever it is. Everyone is.

447
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 7: Is the sum of all of their experiences, not just

448
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 7: that one that you meet them in. And I'm not

449
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 7: sure how I got guarded on this tangent, but it's like,

450
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 7: nobody is just one thing, and villain shouldn't be that

451
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 7: one thing. She you know, Katie might have had a

452
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 7: really rough upbringing. Yeah, something could have happened to her

453
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 7: at the age of six or seven that just damaged

454
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 7: her so deeply that she's looking for love in all

455
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:58,160
Speaker 7: of these misguided places.

456
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:02,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that the ability that you have to see that,

457
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 4: and the intelligence you apply to your character in spite

458
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 4: of the circumstances that are on the page and everything

459
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 4: that seems so wild and soapy and silly, it makes

460
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:19,679
Speaker 4: all of those things work because you are so smart

461
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,199
Speaker 4: and so real about who she is. So you know

462
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 4: it's true though it would not have worked without it

463
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 4: wouldn't have worked without your insight and ability to convey that.

464
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Speaker 6: Thank you, Thank you so much.

465
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 5: Cammi asks what were the challenges of playing a second

466
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,879
Speaker 5: character that wanted to be the first one? And I

467
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,440
Speaker 5: kind of have a follow up, which was when they

468
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 5: called you and said we want you to come back

469
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 5: and play basically the identical twin of his dead wife.

470
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 5: What was your initial reaction to that?

471
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,679
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, yeah.

472
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 5: Did you have any trepidation about, oh, is this gonna work?

473
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,199
Speaker 5: What will people think? No, the fact that they're like,

474
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 5: we're going to put a wig on you and everyone's

475
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,199
Speaker 5: gonna buy it. Like you didn't balk at that at all,

476
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,719
Speaker 5: walk at that, no, look at you go.

477
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,959
Speaker 6: Okay, so it's a different person. Yeah, it's a completely

478
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 6: different person.

479
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 7: So you just you you create a different person. And

480
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 7: and they also waded her into the water. I mean,

481
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 7: she doesn't start off as cuckoo, you know, she's she's

482
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 7: We meet her in your episode that you directed joy,

483
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 7: just like that little tiny flash, and then we we

484
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,400
Speaker 7: get deeper and deeper and deeper, just as she goes

485
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 7: deeper and deeper, you know, into this obsession.

486
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 6: But no, I mean she's a totally different person.

487
00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 7: But fair enough, she she's playing act Sarah.

488
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 6: She's not.

489
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 7: She's she's only able to be what she's read in

490
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 7: that journal, right, or what she's she's learned about.

491
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 6: So she's playing Yeah.

492
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not like she knew Sarah, and then you

493
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,199
Speaker 4: had to try and pretend to you had to play

494
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 4: a version of yourself, pretending to be a version of yourself. Right, No,

495
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 4: that would have been really hard.

496
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 6: Right.

497
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,120
Speaker 7: It's just just this is what I've read, and this

498
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 7: is what he likes, and so I'm going to be

499
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 7: exactly what he wants and what he needs.

500
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Speaker 6: You know, it's it's it's plain make believe she's acting.

501
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, so she got it. She got a very thorough

502
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 5: breakdown in backstory and was like, great, I'm going to.

503
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 6: Run with it. Yeah, I know the breakdown services was

504
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 6: strong for her.

505
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 4: Yeah.

506
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 5: Okay.

507
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 4: So the next question is from Stu Frank and he's

508
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 4: asking was the Storm episode difficult to film? So you know,

509
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 4: this is ahead of where we're at right now, but

510
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 4: since we have you, I am curious how that went

511
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 4: because I remember stopping by the set when you guys

512
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 4: were filming all the stuff with the house inside, and

513
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 4: it was like, I don't know, I feel like the

514
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 4: storm stuff was all shot on the stage, right, Am

515
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 4: I remembering that correctly? No, it wasn't, because there was

516
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 4: some kind of crazy break in broken glass like stunts

517
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 4: happening on the stage at one point I thought it

518
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 4: was that one. Maybe that was inserts or something. I

519
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 4: don't know.

520
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 6: I don't remember ever filming on the stage. That could

521
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 6: be my own memory.

522
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 7: The storm stuff, that's where Quinn and Katie fight and

523
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 7: go over the Yes, that's the episode you're speaking of. Yes,

524
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,360
Speaker 7: that was all filmed on location.

525
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 4: Inside the house too.

526
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:42,439
Speaker 6: Inside the house.

527
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 7: Oh, inside the house, and there was a rain machine,

528
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 7: just like one of those huge rain towers blasting ice.

529
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 5: Cold rain, always ice cold.

530
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 4: How could they not have figured out a way to

531
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Speaker 4: just run the water through a little heater. I mean,

532
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 4: we all can get electric heaters in our homes. Like

533
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 4: why why is it always freezing?

534
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: I mean those towers are pretty big. That might have

535
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: cost a little bit.

536
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 6: Of a pretty penny to ye back then go see

537
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 6: that water up for us. But we filmed that was

538
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 6: like that particular, the stuff that between Quinn and Katie.

539
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 7: We filmed that for the most part, all in one day,

540
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,199
Speaker 7: with the fight stuff and then going over and there

541
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 7: were two beautiful stunt performers who obviously did the dramatic stuff.

542
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 4: But what I.

543
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 7: Remember about that that episode is because we were filming

544
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 7: all day and well into the night.

545
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 6: I mean it was.

546
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Speaker 7: Probably like four. We were facing sunrise. We were right

547
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 7: up against sunrise when we were doing a lot.

548
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 6: Of that stuff.

549
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 7: At the end, I fell asleep in like a little

550
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 7: nook when they were doing Chantal's coverage. And I fell

551
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 7: asleep in like a little nook and they had like

552
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 7: dead asleep and someone came and woke me up to

553
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 7: make me go outside and stand in the rain and

554
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 7: like just be menacing staring into the window.

555
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 6: Was like so was still asleep, and.

556
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: They just kind of like propped me up outside and

557
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: I was in the ice cold water, and it was

558
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: such a shock to me. I remember just crying because

559
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: I had like.

560
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 6: Like so so, but you couldn't tell.

561
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 8: You couldn't tell that I was crying because I was

562
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 8: like like wet rat drenched and like the tears are

563
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 8: and I was like, just don't quiver your mouth, Just

564
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 8: don't quiver your mouth, just like stare straight ahead.

565
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 6: But I was like it.

566
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 4: Would have worked even if you did.

567
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 7: Though, Yes, that's an interesting take, Commander, Let's try being

568
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 7: less cry baby.

569
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 5: That we had the same pumped in rain thing in

570
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 5: a scene A couple episodes or several episodes prior with

571
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 5: Clang Quinn and we had it was it was the

572
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 5: scene where Clay tells Quinn about Sarah, and when Chantona

573
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 5: I read the script, we we lobbied hard for the

574
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 5: whole conversation to happen in the rain because we thought

575
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 5: that we're so powerful, and luckily the director just kept saying, no,

576
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 5: trust it, you don't want that. And then I did

577
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 5: the first take because she's already in her car. But

578
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 5: I did the first take where I had to run

579
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 5: through the rain to the car, and that is take

580
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 5: your breath away, cold water as if there is a

581
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 5: giant glacier, just offset that. They are melting directly into

582
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 5: the hose. So I can only imagine that you having

583
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 5: to stand outside there at four and four in the

584
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 5: morning exhausted is just torture.

585
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 4: It's always brute. Do they have a hot tub for you?

586
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 3: No?

587
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 4: They maybe they figured that. No, they figured that out later.

588
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 4: Because James and I used to have to do scenes

589
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 4: in the rain all the time. That just became like

590
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 4: as a.

591
00:30:55,480 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 1: Guest star sing your status.

592
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 6: I didn't mean to.

593
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 5: They're like, oh, are you going to be difficult? We'll

594
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 5: kill you off again.

595
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 4: No, that's not Okay, they should have had a hot

596
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 4: tub or warming tent or something.

597
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, I'm sure they slapped the blanket on me.

598
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,239
Speaker 5: It would be incredible should the show go on to

599
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 5: do more more seasons, that you come back as a

600
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 5: third character, because has that ever been done in television history?

601
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 5: Someone plays on a non soap opera.

602
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 6: Oh I was going to say, I'm sure. On the

603
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 6: soap opera, I'm so sure.

604
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 5: But on non soap opera programming, I think.

605
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 4: You Marea's twin sister. Yeah, that she never knew about

606
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 4: separated at birth. We can tell your hair red.

607
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, Oh you're Katie's twin sister. Oh, just be great,

608
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 5: all the colors of the race.

609
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 4: Yes, speaking of Rob, what you just said about more episodes?

610
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 4: Did you guys know that there is this there's AI

611
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 4: technology I've heard that's being developed or maybe it exists already.

612
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 6: This is going to make me mad.

613
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 4: I know you can input, like you could upload every

614
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 4: episode of One Tree Hill. It scans for storyline, it

615
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 4: scans our faces, it scans it basically, it creates. It

616
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 4: could create new episodes in perpetuity, just any any character

617
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 4: you want to see, any storyline, any anything, it would

618
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 4: just create an entirely new episode based on our performances

619
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 4: and what exists already.

620
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 6: That makes me upset.

621
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, me too, I have heard what you're referring to.

622
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 5: There was a kind of a tech panel with some

623
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 5: people from the industry, and one of them was saying,

624
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 5: how AI is kind of a will be sort of

625
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 5: at best, like a complimentary good. It won't be replacing

626
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 5: actors or writers because at what it does kind of

627
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 5: at its best, it's like it's mimicry, it's copying. It's

628
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 5: sort of a summation of everything, an aggregator of everything,

629
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 5: like visual effects may take a hit because that work

630
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 5: can be done more efficiently by technology. But what they

631
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 5: were saying was that one of the things that could

632
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 5: happen is like it you can go to it and

633
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 5: ask it too, Like you can pay for the service

634
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 5: of having, like, say, the characters from your favorite show

635
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 5: do an episode like around something that you have asked

636
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 5: it to do.

637
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 4: Okay, Like you write your own episode basically and ask

638
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 4: them yes, weird, all right?

639
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 5: Lily g asks what's your favorite memory from being on

640
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 5: the show?

641
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 6: Oh, I had fun with you, Rob.

642
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 7: It's interesting because for all those storylines that we discussed before.

643
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 7: I only interacted with with.

644
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 6: You and Chantal. You were the only people I worked with.

645
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, like I passed you in the hair and makeup

646
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 4: trailer in the hallways.

647
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 7: You directed the very first thing, that's right, Yes, a Katie,

648
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 7: that's it.

649
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 4: But other than that, like we never we never crosspaths.

650
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 6: No, I didn't cross paths with anyone.

651
00:33:54,480 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 7: On on set, you know, obviously off camera. It's a

652
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 7: beautiful location to be able to film out there, and

653
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 7: I had a lot of fun. Just I remember one

654
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 7: day you and I Rob were working out at the

655
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 7: beach house and I looked out and I don't know

656
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,919
Speaker 7: if it was like the Fast Times bikini stuff, because

657
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 7: that part wouldn't have been my absolute face, but they

658
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 7: were just butterflies everywhere, just butterflies, just these like rainbows

659
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 7: of butterflies going by. And I just thought, I am

660
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:40,280
Speaker 7: working with lovely people in a beautiful location, just flooded

661
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 7: with butterflies. I mean, how does it get much better

662
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:44,399
Speaker 7: than that?

663
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Speaker 4: You know, my magic in Wilmington.

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Speaker 4: Q and A episode, But I want you to come

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