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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for

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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,

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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan. This is episode number one fifty

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Speaker 1: six tay in the show. We are joined by Steve

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Speaker 1: Scott of the White Tailed Institute of North America and

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Speaker 1: we're diving into all things food plots. All right, welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Wired to Hunt podcast, brought to you by

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Speaker 1: Sick Gear, and as I just mentioned, joining me here

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Speaker 1: shortly to discuss a wide variety of food plotting topics

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Speaker 1: is Steve Scott of the White Tail Institute of North America,

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Speaker 1: and over the next hour or so we are going

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Speaker 1: to cover it all. Food plotting advice for beginners all

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Speaker 1: the way to more advanced food plotting tactics and concepts

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Speaker 1: for those that are more experienced. So, whether you already

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Speaker 1: plant acres and acres of tasty white tail food every

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Speaker 1: year or have just been mulling around the possibility of

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Speaker 1: doing it, this episode is for you. Now. On today's episode,

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Speaker 1: my trustee co host Dan is not along with us,

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Speaker 1: so I want to take a quick second during this

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Speaker 1: Onto the next order of business, I want to mention

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Speaker 1: again that I'll be speaking at the two thousand seventeen

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Speaker 1: Quality Deer Management Association National Convention this July down in

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Speaker 1: New Orleans. And if you've been on the fence about

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Speaker 1: going or not, you should just go. It's going to

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Speaker 1: be an incredible event. There's a bunch of great speakers,

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun events, and I've been to the

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Speaker 1: summer or sorry to the convention in past years. It's

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Speaker 1: been terrific. Highly recommend it. So I'm gonna be speaking

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Speaker 1: on Friday, July one, and as I mentioned a few

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Speaker 1: weeks ago, that's gonna be a live broadcast or live

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Speaker 1: recording of a podcast episode. So head on down New

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a lot of fun. I would love

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Speaker 1: to see you guys down there. So with all that

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Speaker 1: the show on the road. So let's pause briefly for

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Speaker 1: our sickest story of the week and then we'll dive

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Speaker 1: into a great discussion on food plots. So from here,

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Speaker 1: producer Spencer new Hearth will take it away. For this

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Speaker 1: week's Sitka story, we're joined by Bryce Lambley, a Sitka

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Speaker 1: white Tail ambassador, who tells us about an improbable hunt

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Speaker 1: with his longbow at ground level in a Nebraska corn

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Speaker 1: thud And have an improbable hunt, and one of my

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Speaker 1: but absolutely one of the most exciting encounters I've had

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Speaker 1: Steve Scott. Welcome to the show, Steve Mark. I appreciate

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Speaker 1: you having me. Yeah, absolutely, I'm I'm excited to chat.

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Speaker 1: I've always enjoyed our conversations and a t a in

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Speaker 1: do this here today. And how are you doing. I'm blessed.

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Speaker 1: I had a great weekend. I hope you did. And Uh,

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Speaker 1: that betting area. But a lot of times the more

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Speaker 1: mature bucks tend to show up on the food plots,

428
00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,960
Speaker 1: you know, after legal shooting light. Uh. And if you

429
00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,560
Speaker 1: move back a little closer to where the where they're betting,

430
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,240
Speaker 1: you may catch them when it's legal. Yeah, that's a

431
00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,680
Speaker 1: great point, I mean, and then not give me for

432
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,159
Speaker 1: interrupt is something that I didn't mention earlier, and you

433
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,159
Speaker 1: and I wrote myself a note here I wanted to

434
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,720
Speaker 1: mention with a food plot, one of the great benefits

435
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,760
Speaker 1: it is a fantastic place to set up a you know,

436
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,000
Speaker 1: an elevated box blind or a ground blind or whatever

437
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,680
Speaker 1: and have a place there's enough room with a couple

438
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,120
Speaker 1: of chairs and there where you can take a kid,

439
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 1: are a are a dot even you know, somebody that

440
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,719
Speaker 1: hadn't hunted much um And and the benefits there one

441
00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:59,119
Speaker 1: is that they can sit in there. They can be

442
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 1: a little bit more warm, are my obviously than hanging

443
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,920
Speaker 1: on a tree limb or a stump. Uh. Plus the

444
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:08,639
Speaker 1: chances I've I've seen some activities some wildlife goes up

445
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,119
Speaker 1: substantially at a food plot versus you know, hunting on

446
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 1: a trail in the woods, which you know can lead

447
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 1: to them. You know, he might kill a better deer

448
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:17,879
Speaker 1: back in there at some point in time because it's

449
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,199
Speaker 1: didn't thicker cover. But as far as kids go, new

450
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,640
Speaker 1: hunters go, they want action. You know. They can take

451
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,160
Speaker 1: their um, you know whatever, their game boy or their

452
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 1: book or their homework and they just sit there and

453
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 1: and and pass a little bit of the time doing whatever.

454
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 1: And when the wildlife starts showing up, that's when you

455
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,720
Speaker 1: get their attention. And it's a great place where they

456
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 1: can move around without scaring everything. Off, so it it

457
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 1: provides that benefit as well. Yeah, that's a great point.

458
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 1: A few years ago, UM I took my dad hunting

459
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 1: with me, and my dad has some pretty serious eyesight challenges,

460
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 1: so you know, growing up, we used to hunt up

461
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 1: our We had a family northern Michigan property, but mostly

462
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 1: swamp and thick woods and stuff, and it was really

463
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 1: hard for maceive deer and he hadn't killed the deer

464
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 1: in a long time because of that, and um I

465
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 1: started hunting a property in southern Michigan where I started

466
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 1: planning food plots and everything, and a couple of years

467
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 1: ago I had him down in a situation just like that.

468
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,679
Speaker 1: We sat in a box blind and we overlooked one

469
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,159
Speaker 1: of the food plots I planted, and you know, he

470
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 1: could see really well out in that wide open and

471
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 1: he was able to kill a buck the first year

472
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 1: that we'd ever actually killed sitting together in my entire life.

473
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,159
Speaker 1: I'd hunted in my whole life, but this is the

474
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 1: first time he'd been able to kill something together, and man,

475
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 1: it was. It was one of the absolute best moments

476
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 1: of my of my life as a hunter, getting to

477
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 1: share that with him, and uh, it wouldn't have been

478
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 1: possible if it weren't a situation like that. So I

479
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 1: think that's a that's a perfect example of what you're

480
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 1: talking about. Rein it is and it doesn't get much

481
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:41,159
Speaker 1: better than that. Yeah, it was pretty special. So so

482
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 1: let's let's talk about the how too some of these things,

483
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 1: because if you're already using food plots, you know they're

484
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 1: really beneficial if you've been on the fence. I think

485
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 1: we talked about a few things, um about why it

486
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 1: might be worth trying. But now let's say we're in

487
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 1: the game this time of year right now, I kind

488
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 1: of want to start with with Now this podcast is

489
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 1: going to be going out to the world sometime in

490
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 1: early June. UM, so I'm kind of curious, Steve, for

491
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: people this time of year, summer, what are some of

492
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 1: the things we should be thinking about as a food plotter. Um,

493
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 1: there's a food plotter, you know, the anything any existing

494
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,680
Speaker 1: food plots that people have going they want to be

495
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 1: they want to be paying attention to them from a

496
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 1: maintenance standpoint. Uh. What I mean by that is, uh,

497
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 1: perennials for example, seeds for example, are impure white clover

498
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 1: as perennial that can last several years without having to

499
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 1: replant it very nutritious. But but they need to control

500
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,199
Speaker 1: when I say they, the food plotter needs to control

501
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 1: the weeds and grasses in it. Um. Mowing periodically is

502
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 1: a good way to do that. You know, you just

503
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,360
Speaker 1: don't want to mow when it's hot and dry. Um.

504
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,120
Speaker 1: But mowing is a good way to control weeds and grasses.

505
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 1: But we've also got herbicides that everybody. We've got a

506
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 1: grass specific herbicide called a rest max uh the thing

507
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,919
Speaker 1: to prey on it. We've got a product called Sleigh

508
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 1: that our broad leaf weed herbicide. But maintenance on on

509
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 1: the existing food plots. But as far as getting ready

510
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 1: for fall, which will be herefore we know it um,

511
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 1: any new food plots they've got their planning on planning

512
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 1: now is the perfect time uh to do a soul test. UM.

513
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 1: And if anybody's done us uh food plots long, they

514
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 1: probably have gone to started this food flot. I mean

515
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 1: he started the soul test. And and if I said

516
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 1: many many times, it's the most valuable thing you can

517
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 1: do to ensure success from your food plot efforts. And

518
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 1: soul tests easy to do, simple to do, inexpensive, but

519
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 1: it gets What it does is they've taken the soul.

520
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 1: They can get our they can get our soul tests

521
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 1: up from white Tail Institute dot com or by calling us,

522
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 1: or they can go to their county agent, what have you.

523
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 1: A lot of places they get a soul test done,

524
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 1: but send it off to a laboratory where they're gonna

525
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 1: professionally test it. They'll send them results back and tell

526
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 1: them exactly how much land they're gonna need to add,

527
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 1: how much of what type for live they're gonna need

528
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: to add. And by doing the soil test now, um,

529
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: it just puts them in a position to where they

530
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 1: can be ready to go when it's time to plant,

531
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 1: which is going to depending on where they are in

532
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: the country. You know, the farther northern part of the

533
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: country they're gonna be planning in in late June and

534
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 1: even early July. But then it should come further south,

535
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: you know, it starts to get on into later in

536
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,199
Speaker 1: July and August and down to the deep south UH

537
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 1: September and even as late as early October. So but

538
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 1: doing a soil test now is is gonna be critical

539
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,160
Speaker 1: UH in my opinion to UH to ensure that they're

540
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 1: gonna be successful with their file efforts. So talk Let's

541
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 1: talk about the soil test a little bit, because, like

542
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 1: you mentioned, you've said this and basically everybody says this,

543
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 1: it's very important to do soil tests. I still know

544
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: lots and lots of lots of people out there who

545
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 1: don't do it, or do it once and then don't

546
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,919
Speaker 1: do it again for ten days or ten years. Um,

547
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 1: what what happens? Because it's it's easy to say you

548
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 1: won't be successful, but what specifically can happen if you

549
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 1: just plant your food plot without doing a soil tests?

550
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: What are the what are the risks here they're talking about? Um, well,

551
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 1: I kind of giving you up the abbreviated answer and

552
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 1: I get into a little bit more detailed answer. Abbreviated answer.

553
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: A soul test can be the difference between the best

554
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: food plot. You can imagine a total failure. It can

555
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: be that big a difference. But what it does is

556
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 1: it kind of get when we get into the chemistry here.

557
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: But different plants require different nutrients to flourish, to to

558
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: grow as well as they can, to be as healthy

559
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: as they can, to be as as nutritious as they

560
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 1: can and produce as much tone as as they can.

561
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 1: And by doing a soul test, and if you can,

562
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: if you know what you're gonna plants, des by what

563
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 1: you're gonna plant, they can give you a tailored recipe

564
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 1: to add the nutrients to that soul so that when

565
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: you put that seed out and it germinates, the fertilizer

566
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: slash nutrients that are in that soul are available to

567
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 1: that plant to take up and give it a chance

568
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: to as I say, flourish. Um it gets in, you

569
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: get into line, you're gonna get into nitrogen, phosphorus, potassium.

570
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: Those things are the are the are the big big

571
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,439
Speaker 1: three if you will big four count the line. Okay,

572
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 1: that makes sense. And then you know if if you

573
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,120
Speaker 1: I think the two other things one or at least

574
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 1: two things I've noticed to in addition to what you

575
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 1: said there, Um, if you're not doing your soil test,

576
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: you could waste money on fertilizer or line, because in

577
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 1: some cases you might there's two ways ago you could

578
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: use too little or you could use too much. You

579
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 1: can spend a bunch of money buying triple sixteen or

580
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 1: something and turns out that you didn't need any of

581
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: that nitrogen maybe, but you just spend a bunch of

582
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: money on fertilizes of the had all that um or

583
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: on the other side, you could decide not to put

584
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: fertilizer on, but just spend a bunch of money on

585
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: seed and lime and time on the disk and all

586
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: that stuff. And then because you didn't have the right fertilizer,

587
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: your food plot doesn't come in and you wasted all

588
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: that money on the other thing. So it's it becomes

589
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: an economical issue. I think too. It's a very small

590
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 1: price to pay to save a lot of money in

591
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 1: the longer, and I think so that's something to considers. Well,

592
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: go on hun direct and that's some of the biggest benefits.

593
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 1: Is the is the money involved. I mean, you know,

594
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: one get out to get into specific numbers, but it's

595
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: the pH is just you know a point or too low, uh,

596
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: And somebody spends whatever, let's say a hundred dollars on

597
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: fertilizer depending on what the plants are growing. But those

598
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: when those plants grow, that hundred dollars that they spend

599
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: may be only fifty dollars of that fertilizer is available

600
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 1: to the plants because of the chemistry, the white chemistry

601
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: is messed up. So yeah, the plants are going to suffer,

602
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: but you've also wasted money. Uh. And one of the

603
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: examples that I use on high important soul testing is

604
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 1: is something that uh, the agricultural industry has done. When

605
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: I say agriculture, I'm talking about again. Know the guys

606
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: are going to beans and in the corn and feeding

607
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: the world if you will. You know, they take a

608
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: hundred acre field up there, and these guys are doing

609
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: it for economics. I mean, you know, you know, way

610
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: everything that dollar they put in is a dollar they're

611
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: not gonna make, so they're doing it economic purposes. And

612
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: they've got into what they call grid testing now where

613
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: that's like a hundred acre field and they may do

614
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:10,479
Speaker 1: a hundred different soul tests soul soul tests and uh,

615
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: and it works with GPS and and to and to

616
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: kind of get to the point here is it puts

617
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: exactly what fertilizer is required for the plant they're gonna

618
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: be growing on each acre of ground in that hundred

619
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: acres and it's it's it's it's pretty amazing. But again

620
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: not told by grid testing here with soul tests, but

621
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: it just goes to show you how important it is

622
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: to do the soul test, and again to get back

623
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 1: to how simple it is, and and and and how

624
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: inexpensive it is. The agriculture side of is doing it

625
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: for production. They want more production, which is in turn

626
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: going to make them more money. Applying at the food plots,

627
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 1: You're going to have more production, You're gonna have more dear,

628
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: better quality dear, and better quality food plots. Yeah. So,

629
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Speaker 1: speaking of fertilizer and limes, something I've been seeing show

630
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 1: up more often having some companies that are selling essentially

631
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: liquid fertilizer or lime or food plot boosters are different

632
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: things that you can spraying your food plot that either

633
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: replaced Lineman fertilizer or supplement it different things like that.

634
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: What have you what have you seen heard um understand

635
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: about those? Do those actually work? Should we be considering

636
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: using something like that to supplement our usual fertilizer alignement

637
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: or replace it? Who? That covers a whole lot of ground?

638
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: And and you know, I want to be careful here

639
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 1: in the way I word this. Typically what I tell

640
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: that I'm wanna try to be as politically correct here,

641
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: but as answer your question, uh, my former grandis Wily

642
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: Johnson and the one that followed him, Wayne Hannah. Uh.

643
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: They've both said that, you know, they would rather somebody

644
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: see somebody use regular agricultural limestone, which is what farmers use,

645
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: or you know, if they if they have you know,

646
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: access problems, they can use peltic line, pealty lime can

647
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 1: be buying bags, it's easier to spread, it's much more

648
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: expensive of the regular agriculture line. UM. So they would

649
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: rather see people follow REGOR or traditionally, if you will,

650
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: agricultural practices, which is your your for example, triple thirteen fertilizer,

651
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: triple seventeen fertilizer, or whatever the soul test calls for

652
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: with REGOR across the line. I don't want to get

653
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: too much into the some of the stuff that's coming

654
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: and going, um, because there's a whole but I'm like you,

655
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 1: I've seen a whole lot of it, but just don't

656
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: feel comfortable comment on it. UM fair enough for maybe

657
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: what may be obvious reasons. Fair enough. So so then

658
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: let's let's take a step back then to something you

659
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: said a couple of minutes ago when we were talking

660
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: about maintenance, UM mowing and then dealing with weeds. With

661
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: chemical applications. Um back to the mowing piece, can you

662
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: talk about the timing of that? When is the right

663
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: time to mow? How do you know? They freasance? For instance,

664
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: I'm in a situation where I'm maintaining a clover plot

665
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: and one of the things I always been trying to

666
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: remind myself of is when's the right time to mow.

667
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: I've always have to go back and read articles online

668
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: to figure out and my mowing when it's starting flower

669
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: and my mowing when it's so taller. So when's the

670
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: right time to mow something like that, like a clover plot,

671
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: And then how many times of summer or years should

672
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: do that? That's a fair question to go to pend

673
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: on how you know your your growing season. Uh, temperatures

674
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: and moisture is gonna dictate how many times you might

675
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: have to do it. But typically I think a good

676
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: road would be around probably gonna be two or three

677
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 1: times on the on an average year. When That's one

678
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: of the unique things about the Imperial white to clover,

679
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: it does not have to recede to continue to grow.

680
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: It actually grows from the route, so we don't have

681
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: to let it flower turn into seed to get more

682
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: growth out of it. We can mow it here, you

683
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: know any time. Um, what we've a good rule of

684
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: THINGE would be two and in that ten to twelve

685
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: inch range. When it gets up to say that ten

686
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: to twelve inch range, whether it be you know, just

687
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: clover and or weeds and grasses that may be mixed

688
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: in with it, mow it down, raise the mower deck

689
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: if you can, and mow it down to about you know,

690
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: save made inches tall, just kind of clipping the tops off.

691
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: What that does It gives a gives a more plants

692
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: an opportunity to grow up within it, picking it up

693
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 1: even more. But another thing that it does is it

694
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: it prevents the weeds and grasses that are in it.

695
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: I should say, helps prevent the weeds and grasses that

696
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: may be in it from going to see which you

697
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 1: do not want to let happen. Yeah, So so apply

698
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: Can we apply that same question then to the spring. Um,

699
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 1: if I'm using some kind of herbicide, what's the timing

700
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 1: on that? How often do you think on average somebody

701
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: should be doing that? Uh, it's going to depend on

702
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: what they're spraying at the time of year. The best

703
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: time just to to spray these perennial plies to control

704
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: weeds and grasses is going to be early in the

705
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 1: spring when things first start to green up, because as

706
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 1: the grass or the weeds appear and they're in the

707
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: more immature state, is much easier to control those with

708
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: herbsts than it is on a tour plant. Uh. Now,

709
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that people as they if they let

710
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: things go to more, they can't. That doesn't mean they

711
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: can't control the weeds and grasses. It's just going to

712
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: probably probably take a little bit longer and a little

713
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 1: bit heavier application, and it might take more than one application. Okay, cool,

714
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: but it would be as a spring and summer activity

715
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: as far as control and weeds and grasses in a

716
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 1: perennial food plot as a spring and summer uh project. Okay,

717
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 1: Now you mentioned here maintaining perennial food plots and um,

718
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: most people I think understand the difference between perennials and annuals,

719
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: at least if you're already in the food plotting world,

720
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: and if you're already participating, that's something most people understand. Um.

721
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,280
Speaker 1: But can you talk to us a little bit about

722
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: the wise behind why you might want to choose a

723
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 1: perennial versus an annual and maybe why you might want

724
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 1: to both. You know, how does that fit into a

725
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: food plot strategy? Um. Yeah, again, it's all the start

726
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: with annuals. Annuals are something that they are designed to

727
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,280
Speaker 1: last a year or less generally. You know, for example,

728
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: fall winter annuals typically something you're gonna plan in a

729
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 1: late summer early fall, and it's designed to attract a

730
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 1: nurse deer during the fall and winter months, all right

731
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: now and then it's gonna pretty much play out at

732
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: that time. Now, Spring summer annual, like our power plant product,

733
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: is something people will plan in the lake spring early summer,

734
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: produces a lot of forage, a lot of tonnage, a

735
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 1: lot of protein far the deer when they're growing their antlers.

736
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,399
Speaker 1: Plus you know, the fallings are being born the mother

737
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: you know, the doose are producing milk. Um. It helps

738
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: with those all those activities. Um. So, annuals are more

739
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: targeted towards a specific time of year. A perennial Uh,

740
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: it's something that can last up to five years from

741
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 1: a single planning. Sometimes it goes even a little longer

742
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: than that. But we say typically up to five years

743
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: from a single planning, depending on how far north they are.

744
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: In the south, you know, you're looking at something that

745
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 1: can produce food probably ten twelve months a year north,

746
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 1: depending on how cold it. Guess he's probably look at

747
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: at nine to nine to ten, maybe eleven months a year,

748
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: just depending on the year and how far north they are.

749
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: But it's producing food the entire year. One of the

750
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: benefits to perennials is not only is it great for

751
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 1: hunting purposes attracting there in the falling winter months, but

752
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: for example of going back to imperial white jil clover,

753
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: it's one of the first things to green up in

754
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: the spring, and it's extremely high in protein, high proteins,

755
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 1: crucial for antler development, milk production, body development, et cetera.

756
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: So you're providing a something that not only can help

757
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: you attract theater in the falling winter, but also provide

758
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: a very high level of nutrition in the spring and

759
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 1: summer months when antlers are being grown, you know, and

760
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: falling to being born in the mother producing milk. Now,

761
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: somebody this, you know, this got the availability to do it.

762
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: An ideal thing is to have a combination of the two.

763
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: If they can, uh For example, enough a guy's got

764
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 1: whatever four acres that he's planting, and it's like two

765
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: as in a perennial and then two aggers and annuals

766
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: that you rotate the different things. That's generally a good recipe.

767
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: And again there's some you know, some some some variables there.

768
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: If they live a long long ways away from their

769
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: their land, you know, they may want to lean a

770
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: little bit more towards annuals simply because of the maintenance situation.

771
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: If they live close to their land, they might want

772
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: to go a little heavier on the perennials. Yeah, it

773
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 1: definitely is one of those situations dependent things, um which

774
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: which kind of brings me to my next question, which

775
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: if I had to guess, I've got to get I've

776
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: got to believe this is one of the most commonly

777
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: asked questions you here definitely is from me, and that is,

778
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: you know, what should I plan? Everyone wants what should

779
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: I plant? And if you look in the in the

780
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 1: food plotting world today, there are dozens and dozens, if

781
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: not hundreds, of different food plot seeds and varieties and

782
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 1: blends and companies and and there's so many different things

783
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 1: out there. Um At a high level. If someone is

784
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 1: just trying to answer that question for themselves, what should

785
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 1: I plant? You know, whether it's something you guys are selling,

786
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: or if they're just looking at the whole world and

787
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 1: just trying to side. You know, how do I go

788
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 1: about making this decision? What would you recommend as far

789
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 1: as the questions they should be asking themselves or the

790
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: steps they should go through to determine what to plant. Um.

791
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: You know, if somebody asked me that question, I would

792
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: respond with the question, is which is not what you want? Um?

793
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 1: And this is someone making a sumps here Most the

794
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: vast majority of people plant there to attract them during

795
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: the falling winter. Um. Now they're don't get me wrong,

796
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: many people have advanced beyond just that and want to

797
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: provide nutrition in the spring and summer too. UM. So

798
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: if you know the guns of ahead and somebody says, no,

799
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,280
Speaker 1: I don't want any question, I just answer my question,

800
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: what do I need to plant? If? If they've got

801
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 1: a good heavy soul and hold moisture, I would plant

802
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: imperial white chail clover on the good heavy souls that

803
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:59,760
Speaker 1: that hold hold moisture. It's a perennial. All the benefits

804
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: that we've discussed, but I would also if if possible,

805
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: I would plant some annuals. Um. For example, our Pure

806
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: Attraction product is a blend of our our brassica plants

807
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: and our oat plants. It's extremely attractive in the early

808
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,720
Speaker 1: season and Nebraskas are also very attractive in the late season.

809
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: Um So, again, you're right this it gets confusing when

810
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: you can get overwhelming when you look at all the

811
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: various products out there. But for somebody that's just starting out,

812
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: you know, Pure Attraction are our white Heil oats plus

813
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: um It's it's a fantastic way to get started. And

814
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: we got a bunch of people that's been doing it

815
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: for twenty going on thirty years that are using those

816
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: products as well. But they're easy to grow. They grow

817
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: real fast and the deery just pound them during the

818
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: fall and winter months. Uh. Winter Greens is another great choice,

819
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: uh Nebraska based product. He's got our Braskas in it. Uh.

820
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: But it tends to be best in the later season

821
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: as the temperatures drop, but they'll also get uses in

822
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: the early season. It grows real fast, produces a lot

823
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: of tonnage. Um So, I mean there's as you say,

824
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: there's a lot of options. But if somebody just getting started,

825
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: the white hellos plus are the pure attraction, are great

826
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: places to start. If they wanted something more so designed

827
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: more so specifically for the later season, the winter grains

828
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: is a great choice. Yeah, I've had success with all

829
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 1: of those, um but I kind of want to go

830
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: back to what you first said. You said that you

831
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 1: would you would actually, rather than give him a recommendation,

832
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: you would ask them a question. I'm really curious about

833
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:29,439
Speaker 1: those questions. What are the questions that these people should

834
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: be asking because each of one of us, right, we're

835
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: in a unique situation. We all might have something that

836
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: would work best for our strategy, for our property, or

837
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: our circumstances. What are those things that people should be

838
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: thinking about to help them make the right decision for them.

839
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: You know what? The question I think is all right,

840
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: what you know? And again, a lot of times I

841
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: ask a leading question. I kind of know predict what

842
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: they're going to say with high percentage of accuracy. You know,

843
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: what do you want the food plot to do? And

844
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 1: most people are gonna say willing, and I want them

845
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: to you know, I wanted for hunt season I say

846
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: that followed up with will let me ask you this.

847
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 1: You know, obviously you know where you located and when

848
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 1: when are you When are you hunting? Are you hunting

849
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: more early season? Are you hunting more late season? Are

850
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 1: you hunting some of both? And let those questions kind

851
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 1: of lead me toward to where I would Uh. For example,

852
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: if if I ask a guy, say, listen, he wants

853
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 1: to draw deer, and he's you know, he has an

854
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: opportunity to hunt a lot and you know whatever, say

855
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: September and October, not as much later than that, it's

856
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 1: the end. A pure attraction are the white tellos plus

857
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:31,919
Speaker 1: would be fantastic options grow fast track a lot of deer,

858
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 1: and they're fantastic in that earlier season. If a guy says,

859
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I'm gonna hunt a lot in

860
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: November in December a little bit late season, UM, I

861
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: would probably lean him toward either. The pure attraction are

862
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 1: the winter greens. And you know, of course we've got

863
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 1: tall time tubers with this our turn up product and

864
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: a new product we're just introducing called beats and greens. Uh,

865
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: so there's a lot of choices for the late season

866
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 1: as well. Um, you know, and then of course of

867
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: the guy says, well, you know, I want to have

868
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: better quality dear to hunt, then I would lean more

869
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: toward we're you know, planning the like the power plant

870
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 1: in the spring for antler development, UM, the dot lactic

871
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,240
Speaker 1: and et cetera. Uh if with a company to combine

872
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 1: with a perennial such as Imperial white or clover that

873
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: can provide a lot of forge and a lot of

874
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: nutrition during that early and the late season, excuse me,

875
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: early spring and the lakes bring on into summer. Okay,

876
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 1: let's continue with some of these specific circumstantial things. Let's say,

877
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: as we're continuing to ask these questions, UM, come to

878
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: find out that food plotter John Doe says that his

879
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: area he can plan a food plot is pretty wet.

880
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: What would you recommend, whether it be as types of

881
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: food plots or just things to consider when food plotting

882
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,959
Speaker 1: in a wet situation? Um? And again, now I'm gonna

883
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: ask another question. How wet is he talking about? I mean,

884
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,439
Speaker 1: is it does it stay mucky wet all the time?

885
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: Because there it can be too wet to grow successful

886
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: food plot. Kind of like it's kind of like people

887
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: talk about sandy soul. Uh, there's some souls that are

888
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: considered sandy, but they're they're good souls all the way

889
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: down to beat sand. It doesn't grow much of anything

890
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: so that so I have to kind of qualify it

891
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: with that. But in the more moist souls, the Imperial

892
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: white Tail clover, as I've mentioned many times on heavy soul,

893
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 1: that ald moister is phenomenal. Uh that are our fusion

894
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 1: product which in our clover and chickery blend. Uh In

895
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 1: annuals that grow well in that would be uh, you know,

896
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: our white tail oats plus would be their best bet

897
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 1: on that, on that more damp soul. Okay, now let's

898
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,919
Speaker 1: look at the converse. What if you're in a really

899
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: dry area, you're very arid, um, you've got an area

900
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 1: where you're not going to be sure you're gonna get

901
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: quite as much water and rain as you would ideally

902
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: like anything different we should be thinking about there, Whether

903
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: I mean, in addition to what to plant, I'm also curious,

904
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 1: you know, if I'm in a wet or if I'm

905
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 1: in a really dry area, should I be thinking differently

906
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 1: about one I plant or how I maintain it or

907
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 1: anything like that too? Not so much how you maintain it.

908
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 1: I let the species of plants you're growing dictate that.

909
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 1: But yeah, if somebody's got heavier souls, you know, I

910
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: mentioned the Imperial white clover be an ideal for that.

911
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: Now you get up into the higher, dryer type souls,

912
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: I would probably recommend that somebody may up the percentage

913
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: of annuals that they plant, uh stuff that you know,

914
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 1: seasonally specific. UM. I would probably still recommend that they

915
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: get some perennials established, but maybe a lower percentage simply

916
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 1: because it's going to be affected so so strongly by

917
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: the drier conditions that they're dealing with. UM. But again,

918
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: the um the fall annuals, all the ones that I've mentioned, UM,

919
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,760
Speaker 1: you know, the white colotes plus and the winter grains,

920
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: they all do real well on that well drained soil,

921
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,720
Speaker 1: but their designed to be planted in the late summer

922
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: early fall, depending on where somebody is. The power plant

923
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: product produced a lot of tones. As I've said several times,

924
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 1: it does well on those well drained soils. We've got

925
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: a couple of perennials that are designed for well right souls.

926
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: But again we get into the how well drained and

927
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: how dry is it? Uh, our extreme product is designed

928
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: for the up you know, the you know those upland souls,

929
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: and our alpha right plus product is a much deeper

930
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: rooted plant plant product as well. So I would probably

931
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: on the heavier souls that whole boystraft might lean a

932
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: little more towards perennials, up that percentage from fifty fifty,

933
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: whereas if you get into the dry areas, I might

934
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 1: up the percentage toward the annuals from fifty fifty. Okay,

935
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,439
Speaker 1: that's helpful. That answered that answered that question, it does,

936
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: I think, so. Okay, so I'm gonna continue throwing these

937
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: hypotheticals out there. Um, but this one is for someone

938
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: who does not have big equipment. Maybe we don't have

939
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: any way to disc we don't have a tractor, we

940
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 1: don't have an a t V. Um. Can I plant

941
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: a food plot without having big equipment like that? Can

942
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,800
Speaker 1: I plant something in a little spot in the woods

943
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 1: or a little patch of open cover? Um? And if so,

944
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 1: how how can I do that? Yeah? It can be

945
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 1: And uh, you know the main thing is is get

946
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 1: a good night's sleep and uh and rest up because

947
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: it's we're going to require a good bit of work.

948
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,399
Speaker 1: But uh, and I say that slightly tongue in cheek,

949
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: but it's there's a lot of truth to it. Obviously,

950
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: that's why they're using those big tractors and a TV

951
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: s to scratch the soil. But yeah, we've got products

952
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: that they're designed specifically for that application. Uh. For example,

953
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: if a guy's got a little small clearing back in

954
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 1: the woods that uh, you know, it needs to be

955
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 1: getting at least three or four hours of sunlight at

956
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: day to make the chemistry of the plants work. So

957
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 1: we've got to have that. And if if, if, if

958
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: they don't have that, sometimes if they can cut some

959
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: junk trees down and be careful with that, you know,

960
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 1: be careful what you're cutting. But if they can open

961
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: up the canopy to let more sunlight in, that's the

962
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: number one requirements getting enough sunlight in that area to

963
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: make the plants grow. But we've got two products, one

964
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: called Secret Spot, one called Both Stand that we've got

965
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: to pack a four pound bag out at this design

966
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 1: to plant forty square feet. You know, a couple of

967
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:02,959
Speaker 1: guys with a up a couple of good steel tooth

968
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,959
Speaker 1: rakes can get in there and spend you know, spend

969
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: a Saturday morning and they can develop a food plot. Again,

970
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: as I said earlier, it's gonna take some work, um,

971
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 1: because they're they're doing the work up the tractor obviously

972
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: on a much smaller scale. But yeah, they can definitely

973
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 1: get in there and do that with hand tools. Is

974
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 1: a little again you know, it's I've done it, and

975
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 1: it's uh, you know they're gonna be war out that day.

976
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 1: So but again, it's gonna be one of those things

977
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 1: where they when when fall rolls around, they've got some

978
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 1: derabist and they're gonna forget the effort that went into it. Yeah,

979
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: early early in my years food plot, and that was

980
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 1: how I did it. At first I wasn't. I was

981
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: out there first with the rake, and then a couple

982
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: of days later I was able to I was able

983
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: to borrow a push Rhoda tiller, so I had a

984
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,919
Speaker 1: little bit of equipment. Um, but yeah, if you're able

985
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 1: to scratch a little bit of soil, you can get

986
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 1: something out there. And yes, and and even if you

987
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: just mentioned something that I should have mentioned earlier, and

988
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: the apologizer jumping on the top of you, But the

989
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: main thing with those rakes, what we're trying to do

990
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: not only get that minimal sunlight in there to make

991
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: the chemistry work, we have to have the soul exposed

992
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 1: so that we can get seed soul contact. So that's

993
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: what we're looking for as a seed bed. This guy

994
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 1: is little to none uh, weeds and grasses on it.

995
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 1: Having the soul exposed so that the plants have a

996
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 1: chance to germinate, uh and and flourish. Yeah. There's another

997
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 1: common question I get a lot, and that is is

998
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 1: it even worthwhile planning food plots? If I'm in farm

999
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: country and there's crap fields all around me? I mean,

1000
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: how do you how do how do you answer that? Now?

1001
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: We've been getting asked asked that question for going on

1002
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 1: thirty years now, and it's a great question because you know,

1003
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: especially like in the Midwest where there's beans in corn

1004
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: fields as far as you can see. Why in the world,

1005
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: it's like the whole world is a food plot out there.

1006
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: Why would they need to do it? Um? Which is

1007
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 1: a question I would ask if I was them, And

1008
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 1: I've got an answer, and the answer is this, Um,

1009
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: there are beings in corn be aware out there. Uh.

1010
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: Number one, what's going to differentiate your farm that you're

1011
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 1: hunting from all those other farms around you. Uh, there's

1012
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 1: things that you could plant that are going to differentiate

1013
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: you differentiate your your your your property from everybody else's.

1014
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: For example, the oaths I mentioned, the clover I mentioned,

1015
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 1: or the winter grains I mentioned. Uh, you're providing a

1016
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 1: different food source than is available everywhere else. So number one,

1017
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: you're differentiating your your your your land from everybody else's land. Um.

1018
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 1: Another thing that's happened to over the years since we've

1019
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,919
Speaker 1: started this, as the combines have gotten so good, they're

1020
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 1: not leaving near the waste grain that they used to

1021
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: leave when they picked these fields. There's not near as

1022
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: much in a lot of people. As soon as they

1023
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 1: get it picked, you know, they're they're turning it over. Uh,

1024
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 1: They're they're cutting everything in and basically the the the

1025
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: grocery store has closed. UM. So now you've really got

1026
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 1: a big vantage over any of your neighbors if if

1027
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: that is being done on their place. This is another

1028
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: place where food places can separate themselves greatly. You know,

1029
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,800
Speaker 1: even in um the bread basket, if you will, the

1030
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: Midwest UM is in this is dear, listen to stay dear,

1031
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: roughly start growing their antlers and in their early spring

1032
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:24,800
Speaker 1: to stay marks. Beans are high in protein, you know,

1033
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: which obviously can help deer grow better quality annurs. And

1034
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: that's you know, one of the reasons that uh that

1035
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: the deer in the Midwest are so big, uh is

1036
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: because of the nutrition there. But anyway, UM, they're gonna

1037
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: plant those beans in at the earliest sometime in May,

1038
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:43,320
Speaker 1: maybe the first of June, so by the time the

1039
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: beans are starting to grow it to provide food for

1040
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: the deer. We're looking at at least June before the

1041
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: deer start feeding on it. And they started growing the

1042
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 1: antlers in March, so what are they going to be

1043
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: feeding on in April in May prior to those beings

1044
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:04,320
Speaker 1: being available. The Imperial white toil clover, as I mentioned earlier,

1045
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: it's one of the first things that's going to green

1046
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: up in the spring. It's extremely high nutrition, and it

1047
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:14,359
Speaker 1: first starts providing that that high protein food source long

1048
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: before those beans are available. So what we've done is

1049
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 1: we started providing high nutrition earlier in the allegrown process,

1050
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: which is crucial to the end result in the harden antler. Uh.

1051
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: There's research has been done there in Michigan. UM whereas

1052
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 1: if if antlers are stunted early on, there's not compensatory

1053
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,479
Speaker 1: gains made later on. There, you know, it's just gonna

1054
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 1: be behind. It's gonna be behind the entire time, even

1055
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 1: when they're hardened. Um, we've we took u some antlers

1056
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: in velvet and had an essay to find out what

1057
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 1: was in them. What was not blood and water in

1058
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: the beginning stages was up to protein and a harden

1059
00:52:54,760 --> 00:53:01,359
Speaker 1: antler is forty protein and all that. As amazing as

1060
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 1: it is to think about it, still the study of

1061
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: somebody made that the deer are going to grow these

1062
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 1: antlers in a matter of you know, roughly six months.

1063
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: And you know you're looking at you know at you know,

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00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:15,479
Speaker 1: two deer. He's gonna be growing all that no matter

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00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: of you know, a hundred fifty hundred days. So what

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00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: he's eating is crucial. Okay, We're going to take a

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Speaker 1: quick pause here for our white Tail Wisdom segment with

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00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 1: our friends at white Tail Properties and producer Spencer new

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00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: Earth will take it from here this week. With white

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Speaker 1: Tail Properties, we are joined by Brad Ferris, a land

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00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: specialist out of Central Mississippi, and Brad is gonna be

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00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 1: telling us about what factors make for quality property in

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00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 1: the South. You know what, And I spent a lot

1074
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 1: of time in the Midwest and the West other parts

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00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 1: of the country. One it's just like most places you

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00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: want to I like to find an area and I'm

1077
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: gonna call it a neighborhood and not really a neighborhood

1078
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 1: like where people live, but the area, uh or the

1079
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: area around a certain piece of property is one of

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00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: the first things I like to dig into. UM because

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00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: depending on what's going on in the area, whether the

1082
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:17,320
Speaker 1: roads rivers a lot of small landowners, UM, a busy

1083
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 1: property is just not going to be as high quality

1084
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: recreational property as a quiet, secluded property. So the area

1085
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 1: in the location is very important to me when when

1086
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: trying to find a piece of ground for a client

1087
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:34,800
Speaker 1: with what you know with white tail properties and finding

1088
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,280
Speaker 1: finding what they want, I like to ask the questions.

1089
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: You know, river tracks are different than hill tracks. UM.

1090
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 1: In the South, it typically takes a little bit bigger

1091
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: piece of property to do what you want to do. Then,

1092
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: like in the Midwest, Um, you know, to a track

1093
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: in the Midwest that's full of tember can be really

1094
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 1: really good. Two acres in the South can be okay,

1095
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 1: but you're not gonna have a lot of management opportunity.

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00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: It's like you will in other parts of the country.

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00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: Um is one thing about the sale that is different tricks.

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00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 1: If you'd like to learn more and to see the

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00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: properties that Bred currently has listed for sale, visit white

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Speaker 1: tail properties dot com, backslash Ferris that's F A R

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Speaker 1: R I S. So So this that all makes it

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00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 1: a lot of sense. And like intellectually, I think we

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00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: all we all know in general that improving the nutrition

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00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 1: in an area like this by adding more food sources

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00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 1: of high quality like a food plot, that should help

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00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:40,240
Speaker 1: improve the herd health in general, that should help improve

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00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 1: antler growth. Um. But what I'm curious, I have no

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00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 1: idea if there if this is something that has been

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00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 1: quantified in any way. UM, but I'm curious, you know

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00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 1: what kind of realistic health benefits? Um let me let

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00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: me rephrase this. What is the scale of a food

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00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 1: plus system? We need to actually show quantifiable impacts like that,

1113
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 1: and then like what's what's a timeframe and what's like

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00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: a size? Is there any do you have any It

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00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 1: means like if I play in a half acre food plot,

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00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: is that really going to make a difference or you know,

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00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:13,760
Speaker 1: I know it will help me from a hunting perspective,

1118
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 1: but well a half acre help from a health perspective?

1119
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 1: Or is it more like any two acres or five

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00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:21,359
Speaker 1: acres or ten acres um? And maybe this is an

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00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 1: impossible question to answer, but I'm just curious if if

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00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 1: you've any perspective on that to answer your question directly,

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00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 1: it's not impossible to answer. I'm not sure gonna be

1124
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 1: about answer because there's so many of your fans and budgets.

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00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 1: What what other food did they have available to them?

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00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 1: Natural foragest agriculture? Um, you know how what you know

1127
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 1: how many deer? If they've known how many deer on

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00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 1: the property? Uh, is there gonna be enough tone he's

1129
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 1: produced by that half acre to feed you know a

1130
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 1: lot of deer, just a couple of deer. But you

1131
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 1: know it's it's and how much of their diet consists

1132
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 1: of that food plot? But you know anything that they

1133
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 1: can do is going to help. Now will they be

1134
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 1: of to visually see the difference if they go and

1135
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:06,320
Speaker 1: plan a half acre on a two acre farm? You know,

1136
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 1: you know again the quantified that is not I want

1137
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 1: to say probably not. Um. But at the same time,

1138
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 1: if you've got a bug that you know, that's when

1139
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 1: he's born at a phone, if his mom's visiting that

1140
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 1: food plot, uh, before he's born, in right after he's born,

1141
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 1: and he then that's kind of his home range. He

1142
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 1: grows up with that better nutrition that's available to him. Yes,

1143
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: it will improve the quality when he gets at maturity

1144
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 1: and all the way through. Uh. But you know, I

1145
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 1: want to I say that hesitantly mainly because you know,

1146
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 1: a half acre food plot, you know it's definitely will

1147
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 1: help you from a hunt standpoint. How much nutrition can

1148
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 1: it provide? And how many dey are we talking about?

1149
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to avoid the question by any means,

1150
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 1: but um, and there's not a specific number uh that

1151
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 1: you this is this is what you gotta do to

1152
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 1: make a difference. Because anything that you can do, whether

1153
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 1: be a half acre, quarter ac or whatever, anything is

1154
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 1: going to help. Is the degree of help that you get. Um.

1155
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 1: And tip of what we tell folks and again drifted

1156
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 1: here a little bit, but um Uh, there's there's some

1157
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 1: people that's you know, talked about you know, how you

1158
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 1: planning food flies and managed there you can start really

1159
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 1: seeing results for it four five years down the road. Well,

1160
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 1: you know, we we we agree with that, but we

1161
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 1: disagree from a standpoint. You really don't have to wait

1162
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 1: that long to see the results the first year that

1163
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 1: they plan on. What they should expect to see is

1164
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 1: more dear and increased buck activity. Now, as the deer

1165
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 1: grow up in from standpoint, all way from my phone,

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00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 1: our way till one and a half to an half

1167
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 1: and own up, if they've got better nutrition available to them,

1168
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 1: higher higher protein available to them as they're growing up,

1169
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 1: they're going to be better quality of maturity. Man. Again,

1170
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 1: it's I'm not sure I'm answering your question, but it's

1171
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's hard to quantify how much difference

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00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: half acre is gonna make, uh, because it's gonna there's

1173
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 1: so many variables involved. Yeah, but it will help, and

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00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: the more you can do, the butter. Yeah, that's one

1175
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 1: of those questions. As the words are coming out of

1176
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 1: my mouth, I'm realizing there's no way to answer this. Well,

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00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 1: you know, it's a it's a tougher one, but it's

1178
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 1: certainly tougher to quantify it. But it's you know, it's

1179
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 1: something that you know, we certainly anybody that's got a

1180
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 1: half acre that they can scratch around and plant, I mean,

1181
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 1: it's it's gonna make their hunting experienced butter and then

1182
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 1: nutrition that they're going to be providing it is going

1183
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 1: to benefit the animals. Now, are they gonna be growing

1184
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 1: bone and crocketts in a year? Nope. Hopefully they'll attract

1185
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 1: one um. But over time, as deer grow up with

1186
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 1: better nutrition, they got a better chance and from for example,

1187
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 1: one of the things that we talked about, when when

1188
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 1: a deer is born, he's got the genetic blueprint that

1189
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 1: the Lord gave him, uh that the Lord when he

1190
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 1: when his pall was uh born, it has a genetic

1191
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 1: potential to reach a hundred and seventy inches. We're not

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00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 1: gonna take food plots and turn that deer into it too.

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01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 1: Hundred ins deer the best he can be as a

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01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 1: hundred seventy So what we try to do is let's

1195
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 1: just say that he's born in just is the area,

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01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 1: whether it's just some woods around, if you open field

1197
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 1: of stuff. There's so many stresses on the deer. Nutrition

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01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 1: being one album that deer that has some genetic potential

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Speaker 1: to reach one seventy. Everything's perfect in the while, I'm

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01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 1: probably gonna maybe peek out at because of all the

1201
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 1: stresses that are in his life, nutrition being one album.

1202
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 1: If we can close that nutrition gap, what we want

1203
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 1: to do is instead of him peeking out at one forty,

1204
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 1: we want to help him get to that range, and

1205
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 1: by closing the nutrition gap, we can help him reach

1206
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 1: more of his genetic potential. But we're not gonna take

1207
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 1: him beyond that. Yeah, you know, another interesting thing to

1208
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 1: consider that that I always factor into um the what

1209
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 1: I can achieve by having some type of food plot

1210
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 1: system on a property is that not only can you

1211
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 1: improve the nutrition and help a deer reach its genetic potential,

1212
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 1: but if you have some type of habitat management even

1213
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 1: you know it could be food plots or or anything

1214
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 1: to improve the habitat and your property you like. As

1215
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 1: you mentioned, you're likely going to attract more dear on

1216
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 1: deer property. More deer will spend more time there, and

1217
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 1: there will be more chances for you as a hunter

1218
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 1: to choose whether or not to shoot a deer. If

1219
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 1: you are the person making that decision to shoot a

1220
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 1: buck or not shoot buck, more often than not you

1221
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 1: have a better chance of those bucks making it to

1222
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 1: whatever age class are hoping these deer might make it too,

1223
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 1: to have more mature bucks, so you can be improving nutrition.

1224
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 1: But also by way of having more deer near you

1225
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 1: and you being the one to make those decisions more often,

1226
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 1: you can also improve the age class and your ability

1227
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 1: to shoot that big or older deer down the road

1228
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 1: because you have a disproportionate amount of the decision making

1229
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 1: in that just because they're there more often. And um,

1230
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 1: and that's exactly the right stuff. That that that's you know,

1231
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:00,160
Speaker 1: it'd be nice if we all had, you know, five

1232
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 1: thousand acre tracts land hunt. We could do a whole

1233
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 1: lot of wonderful things. But the reality is, you know,

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01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 1: most obviously, you know, we've got forty acres, eighty acres,

1235
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 1: maybe a few hundred acres. Uh, you know, there's a

1236
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 1: few that's got five ear tholes, a few more than that.

1237
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 1: But most people are gonna have the small attraction land

1238
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 1: where deers and they're gonna rarely get a deer to

1239
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 1: spend a hundred percent of his time on that piece

1240
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 1: of property that they own. What they want to do,

1241
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 1: and they can do it through for lack of a

1242
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 1: better word, habitat manipulations, habitat improvement, which is food plots

1243
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 1: creating some good, heavy batting cover where the you know,

1244
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 1: the deer can go for security. Hopefully they got like

1245
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 1: a sanctuary area, an area that's real thick, nasty that

1246
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 1: nobody ever goes into unless they're tracking a deer where

1247
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 1: the deer knows they can go and get away. Every

1248
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 1: minute that he spends on your ground is a minute

1249
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 1: that he's not going to be exposed to the neighbors

1250
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 1: who may shoot everything that moves so correctly. All right,

1251
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 1: So I want to take a little shift here, and

1252
01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 1: over your years working with food plots and working with

1253
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 1: the white hunts, and I'm sure you have been um

1254
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 1: exposed to a lot of guys and girls who take

1255
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 1: food plotting really, really seriously and do a really great

1256
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 1: job at it. So what I'm curious about is what

1257
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 1: do you see those next level people doing to produce

1258
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 1: the absolute best maximum performance out of their food plots.

1259
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 1: What's that next level stuff that your average guy or

1260
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 1: girl isn't doing but the very best food plotters out

1261
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 1: there are. Hmm, that's a good question. You know, we've

1262
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 1: touched on some of it from a maintenance standpoint, but

1263
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 1: you know, you know these guys, um, you know that

1264
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 1: when a lot of these guys have gone from spending

1265
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 1: you know, as I said very early in our conversation

1266
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:44,440
Speaker 1: a few weekends a year to where they're spending hundreds

1267
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 1: of days a year on their property. Uh. And you

1268
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 1: know there it's one of those things whether they're kind

1269
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 1: of like every relationship, whether it be with people or whatever,

1270
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:54,400
Speaker 1: the more time you spend with it more improves, and

1271
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 1: the relationship with the lands improved. And they're looking for,

1272
01:03:57,400 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 1: you know, new places to do food plots. They may

1273
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 1: be doing hinge cutting to create more bedding cover. They

1274
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 1: may be digging ponds to create more water sources for

1275
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 1: the there. They're always looking for ways to improve their

1276
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 1: property to make it more attractive, um and to give

1277
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 1: their more reasons to spend more time on their property. Um.

1278
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 1: You know, they're very detailed oriented when it comes to

1279
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 1: maintaining the food plots. Um. You know they're getting that

1280
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 1: there in the early spring there um Uh, controlling the

1281
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 1: weeze and grasses, whether it be you know, through mowing

1282
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 1: and or herbicide applications. A lot of are also incorporating

1283
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 1: mental invitement supplements, which is something we haven't really talked about,

1284
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 1: but they're providing mental invitement supplements for to our the

1285
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 1: there as well. Um, you know, creating access. That's something that,

1286
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:47,920
Speaker 1: um that we haven't touched on. But I know a

1287
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 1: lot of these guys, I mean they go and they're

1288
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 1: they're they're going in and you know, either mowing and

1289
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 1: or raking pass to and from their stands so they

1290
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 1: can be as quiet as possible getting to the stands

1291
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 1: and getting out of their spins. Uh. And that's that's

1292
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 1: something that's crucial, is especially for guys that you know

1293
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 1: they want to hunt the more mature bucks. Uh. If

1294
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 1: you've got a big buck that's you know, that's a

1295
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 1: bust in a food plot and you've spoke him a

1296
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 1: few times, in good chance he's gonna go knock turnal

1297
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 1: on you. So the you know, the ideal thing is

1298
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:20,920
Speaker 1: to be able to hunt these food plots in or

1299
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 1: around them. Uh, and the deer never know you were there.

1300
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 1: Obviously that's a stretch because of scent and everything else involved.

1301
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:31,439
Speaker 1: But do everything you can to prevent them from knowing

1302
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 1: you're they're controlling your scent trying not to spoke them,

1303
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 1: definitely trying to stay away from the batting area. So

1304
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 1: when they set these food plots up, they think about

1305
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 1: how am I gonna get to it? Which weighs the

1306
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 1: wind blowing. You know, a lot of these guys they'll,

1307
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 1: for example, they got a couple of acre field, they

1308
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 1: may have several stands hung on that field. That way

1309
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 1: they can hunt it under different winds. You know that

1310
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 1: they got up the north wind. Obviously they want to

1311
01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 1: be more towards the south side, vice versa. So they

1312
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 1: may hang more than one stand on a food plot.

1313
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:04,480
Speaker 1: They also may have stands back in the cover off

1314
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 1: these food plots and let the wind and the time

1315
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 1: of year and what the deer doing dictate where they're

1316
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 1: going to the hunt. And in the whole time they're thinking,

1317
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 1: you know, how can I get in here with the

1318
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 1: least possible disturbance? Yeah, so important that that right there,

1319
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:24,520
Speaker 1: whether you're using food plots or or any other hunting tactic,

1320
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:26,919
Speaker 1: if you can't get in or out without disturbing deer

1321
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 1: every single time you go, and you are reducing your

1322
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 1: eyes and that's that's so kind of core. I think

1323
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 1: to anyone try and chase my tue box. Yeah, and

1324
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:38,920
Speaker 1: it is. And when it comes to food plots, a

1325
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 1: lot of time, you know, it's something that uh, you know,

1326
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 1: if the guy's got whatever forty acres and he got one,

1327
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 1: you know, half acre clearing, he's gonna be limited on

1328
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 1: his creativity. But if possible, if he can, you know,

1329
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:53,600
Speaker 1: try to spend a little bit of time creating maybe

1330
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:57,760
Speaker 1: different accesses to that particular food plot and think about,

1331
01:06:57,880 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 1: you know, when the when the caesar start, which way

1332
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 1: is the providing win? So it's gonna be northwest. You know,

1333
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 1: he probably want to try to approach it as much

1334
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 1: as you can on the southeast side. Um, so thinking

1335
01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 1: you know, how am I gonna hunt this plot after

1336
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 1: I plan it? It's something that I see a lot

1337
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 1: of the you know, the people that have been doing

1338
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 1: it for a while, you know, they are getting a

1339
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 1: little more creative in the way they're And these guys

1340
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 1: are going in and you know creating food plots from

1341
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:27,640
Speaker 1: timber or brush or what have you. And uh, when

1342
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 1: you can do that, obviously you can get as creative

1343
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 1: as you want to. Most folks don't have that. Uh.

1344
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 1: When I say most folks, a lot of folks don't

1345
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 1: have that that that option to go in there and create,

1346
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 1: you know, from a blank canvas. They got to deal

1347
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 1: with the openings that they've got. Yeah, to take that

1348
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:46,080
Speaker 1: step further though, if you do have flexibility, um, thinking

1349
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:48,479
Speaker 1: about these things before even putting in the food plot.

1350
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:51,400
Speaker 1: So not necessarily putting in a food plot and then deciding, oh,

1351
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 1: what's the wind gonna do, where can I hang to stand?

1352
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 1: How can I get it? Actually think about those before

1353
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 1: you place it. So you put it in the right place,

1354
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:00,200
Speaker 1: so you do have the right access, so you can

1355
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 1: hunt it with the right winds, so you do know

1356
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 1: you can intercept dear coming from a nearby betting air.

1357
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 1: I mean, if you can factor all that into your

1358
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 1: decision making process beforehand, you are that much more well

1359
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:13,200
Speaker 1: off in the end um to your point, that's why

1360
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 1: it was possible. But if it is possible, it's it's

1361
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 1: important to ask these questions. This is one of those

1362
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:19,720
Speaker 1: things that at least for me, and tell me if

1363
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 1: you disagree. But when it comes to food plotting, for me,

1364
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:24,400
Speaker 1: I think one of the smartest things to do, one

1365
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:26,800
Speaker 1: of the most important things to do is is slow down,

1366
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 1: take a quick second breathe and answer a few questions,

1367
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:32,599
Speaker 1: because I think a lot of people say they get

1368
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 1: excited they see someone on TV shoot a big buck

1369
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 1: on a food plot and they're like, I'm going to

1370
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 1: plant food plots this year. And they go by the

1371
01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 1: first thing they see and they go out and make

1372
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 1: a little opening, they throw stuff out, and they just

1373
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 1: hope it's going to change their whole world. That can

1374
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:46,560
Speaker 1: still help, I mean, just trying anything can help. But

1375
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 1: I think to really get the most out of this,

1376
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:52,559
Speaker 1: you have to start asking all these questions we've been

1377
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:54,560
Speaker 1: talking about. Figure out what the right thing is for

1378
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 1: your goals, for your property, for your set up, thinking

1379
01:08:58,360 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 1: about how you're going to hunt it or how it

1380
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:04,599
Speaker 1: factors into the area um, thinking about access, thinking about hunting,

1381
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:07,360
Speaker 1: thinking about all these different details that in the long

1382
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 1: run make a big, big, big difference. Excuse me. It's

1383
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 1: a lot easier to do that in the front end

1384
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:15,760
Speaker 1: than on the back end. Indeed, it is. If if

1385
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:18,679
Speaker 1: they've got the option to do that, it's it's certainly beneficial.

1386
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 1: And it's like anything, you know, the more you put

1387
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:22,640
Speaker 1: into it, the more you're gonna get out of it.

1388
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:25,640
Speaker 1: And kind of a bad comparison I've used as you know,

1389
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:27,400
Speaker 1: I've told people before, I said, you know, I can

1390
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 1: jump in my car this afternoon and head towards the

1391
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:31,599
Speaker 1: setting sun, and if I keep working that way, I'm

1392
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:33,720
Speaker 1: gonna you know, I'm gonna get the Pacific Ocean at

1393
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 1: some point in time. But it probably be better if

1394
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 1: I sat down with a map and kind of playing

1395
01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 1: my route. Uh. Bad analogy probably back comparison, but it's

1396
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 1: it's it's a crude one, but it's it's similar. Um. So, yeah,

1397
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:48,559
Speaker 1: if they if they've got the ability to all uh

1398
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 1: to get creative with the you know, even the shapes

1399
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 1: of food plot. That's something a lot of the food

1400
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 1: plotters that have been doing it for a while and

1401
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 1: they've got access to be able to create you know,

1402
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 1: openings within the woods. They start thinking by shape, uh,

1403
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 1: whether it be you know, kind of a boomerang type

1404
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 1: shape or more elongated u uh uh like logging roads

1405
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 1: or good fire lanes or get spider. Creating these lanes

1406
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 1: within the in the heavier cover our glass shapes just

1407
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:22,439
Speaker 1: oddly shaped type food plots creates more edge, which is

1408
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 1: going to create more activity. Uh. The other thing is

1409
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 1: is trying to get it close to bedding cover as

1410
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 1: possible without crossing that line to where you're going to

1411
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:35,519
Speaker 1: be disturbing animals. The queen of the closer you can

1412
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 1: get to it, the quicker he can get to an

1413
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 1: A perfect example is a pine forest that I hunt.

1414
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 1: When we first got it, it was one humongous thicket.

1415
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:45,360
Speaker 1: I mean it was so thick he couldn't hardly walk

1416
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:48,320
Speaker 1: through it. And you know, deer just just traps and

1417
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:51,679
Speaker 1: all over the place. Early in the afternoons. Uh, As

1418
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 1: those materials, those trees matured, there was less cover up

1419
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 1: underneath them, and as time went on, we noticed that

1420
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 1: the deer were getting to those food plots later and

1421
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 1: later and later because their betting area was that much

1422
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 1: further from the food plot. It makes sense that's definitely

1423
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 1: definitely important to factor all that in that placement. And um,

1424
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 1: and I've seen that. I've seen the exact same thing

1425
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 1: if and I think the key, one of the keys

1426
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:22,840
Speaker 1: that you mentioned was without crossing that line, you wanted

1427
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:26,280
Speaker 1: as close as possible without spooking those deer. Going back

1428
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 1: to what you mentioned a little earlier, if we're disturbing, dear,

1429
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:31,760
Speaker 1: all of this work is for not at least from

1430
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:34,360
Speaker 1: a hunting perspective. So, yeah, especially if you're hunting the

1431
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 1: more mature deer. I mean, you can get away with

1432
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:37,840
Speaker 1: bumping the does and the you know, in the one

1433
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:40,400
Speaker 1: and two year old box. It maybe even a bless

1434
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 1: and tell of the three year old buck, but you

1435
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:44,679
Speaker 1: can bump them around a little bit and then continue

1436
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 1: to come. But the more mature box. Uh, if you

1437
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 1: spoke of a time or two, Um, you know you're

1438
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:51,560
Speaker 1: probably gonna have to wait to the rut and the

1439
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:55,000
Speaker 1: hope you get lucky. Yeah, so you know, don't educate

1440
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:57,680
Speaker 1: him if you can help it. Yeah. So, so we've

1441
01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:01,559
Speaker 1: talked about, you know, things like this like disturbing deer

1442
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:04,120
Speaker 1: on your food plots, as as a mistake people often make.

1443
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:06,760
Speaker 1: We've talked about the mistake that many people make with

1444
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 1: not taking a soil test I mentioned earlier, the mistake

1445
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 1: and sometimes rushing into things without thinking your food plot

1446
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:15,040
Speaker 1: playing through. These are a couple of common mistakes. Is

1447
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:18,720
Speaker 1: there anything else as far as very common mistakes that

1448
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:22,240
Speaker 1: you see that we haven't mentioned yet, Um, that's worth

1449
01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 1: pointing out here. Uh, you know this is gonna be's

1450
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:29,760
Speaker 1: uh self promotion a little bit. But I think one

1451
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:31,840
Speaker 1: of the biggest mistakes is the guy just kind of

1452
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 1: gets a little bit overwhelmed these drows his hands up,

1453
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:37,720
Speaker 1: doesn't do it. Um. I think that's a huge mistake. Uh.

1454
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 1: You know, we've gotten you know, a little bit deeper

1455
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:42,679
Speaker 1: into the weeds here, you know, getting into shaping food

1456
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:45,600
Speaker 1: plots and when directing this, that and the other. You know,

1457
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:47,320
Speaker 1: if the guys you know not you know, if he's

1458
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:50,240
Speaker 1: not sure, you know, he's kind of kind of thinking

1459
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:52,639
Speaker 1: about these teetering a little bit. You know, just get

1460
01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 1: out there and plant something, why something, um, and you're

1461
01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna things are gonna get better. Now. The

1462
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:01,599
Speaker 1: more you do, the better it can get. But if

1463
01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:04,120
Speaker 1: you plant something you've got, you've got, you're gonna say

1464
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:06,080
Speaker 1: more deer and better quality there. If you plant something

1465
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:08,640
Speaker 1: that's preferred by the deer. Obviously we want them to

1466
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:10,680
Speaker 1: use White Tell's two products that we know those are

1467
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 1: attractive to deer. Uh. So just you know, just just

1468
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:17,800
Speaker 1: don't get overwhelmed by As you mentioned earlier, there's so

1469
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:20,200
Speaker 1: much stuff out there, there's so much information that it's

1470
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:22,479
Speaker 1: you know, almost like trying to get a sip of

1471
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:25,479
Speaker 1: water out of a fire. Hose you just getting pounded. Um,

1472
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:27,640
Speaker 1: you know, just don't let it, just don't let it

1473
01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 1: just overwhelm you to the point where you don't do it.

1474
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 1: Stick your toe in the water. Try. Yeah, and I

1475
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:36,519
Speaker 1: think they'll find out that, you know, they're gonna they're

1476
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:39,080
Speaker 1: gonna see benefits and then they can kind of grow

1477
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:43,720
Speaker 1: from there. Yeah, that's a really great point because to

1478
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 1: your point, I mean, just in what the things I

1479
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 1: was I was just mentioning there. I mean, all those

1480
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 1: things that I'm saying you should consider. Yes, those are

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01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 1: those are healthful things to consider. But at the same time,

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Speaker 1: if you haven't started at all, that can be kind

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01:13:56,160 --> 01:14:00,120
Speaker 1: of intimidating, that can be overwhelming. So that's a great point. Mean,

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01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 1: you need to start somewhere, just like just as a

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01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 1: deer hunt, right. I mean, if if I told you

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01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:07,760
Speaker 1: your first year deer hunting, ever, you had to be

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01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:10,680
Speaker 1: hunting them mature buck and you had to do all

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01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:14,559
Speaker 1: these twenty seven different little things, right, hardly anyone would

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01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:16,560
Speaker 1: be able to do it. Hardly anyone had fun with it,

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01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 1: and hardly anyone would even want to start because it's

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01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:21,840
Speaker 1: so intimidating. But it's a lot a lot better I

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01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:23,719
Speaker 1: think if you start at the bottom rung of that ladder,

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01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:26,600
Speaker 1: dip your toe in there, try things, and then just

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01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 1: try to try to improve every year. Um yeah, and

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01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 1: and and that's exactly what will happen. Is like anything,

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01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:33,080
Speaker 1: you know, the more we do it, the longer we

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01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:35,200
Speaker 1: do it, the better we get at it. And uh

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Speaker 1: and I'm you know, I'm from the Elsko. I mean

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01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 1: I move a little bit slow. I've always had the

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01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:41,719
Speaker 1: opinion that if you're going to run into a wall,

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01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:44,840
Speaker 1: it hurts a whole lot less if you're moving slowly

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01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 1: as opposed to having your head down with the eyes closed. Um.

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01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 1: So another back in parison. But you know, just enough,

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01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 1: jump in, get in there and do something, trying to

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01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 1: learn as much as you can. Um and do as

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01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:58,439
Speaker 1: much as you can along the line of what we're

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01:14:58,439 --> 01:15:01,000
Speaker 1: talking about. But the main thing is just do um.

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01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:03,680
Speaker 1: And they mean that they'll say the benefits yeah, and

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01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 1: have fun, right, because I really do think that, like

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01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:09,639
Speaker 1: we talked about earlier, there's a lot of benefits. There's

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01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. They come, they can come with

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01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 1: food plots if you approach it in a way, UM,

1513
01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:16,519
Speaker 1: don't be too stressed out about it. If things don't

1514
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 1: go perfectly, that's all right. Enjoy the process. Enjoy you

1515
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:22,120
Speaker 1: know those moments in the woods when you do get

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01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:24,439
Speaker 1: to see deer enjoying your food plot. And uh, I

1517
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 1: think it's it's very rewarding if you go and do

1518
01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:28,720
Speaker 1: it that kind of mindset. Well, And I appreciate you

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01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 1: saying that, because that's something that um uh that we're

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01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 1: talking more about, and we've we've been uh talking more

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01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:36,840
Speaker 1: about the process and the benefits of stuff like that

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01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:39,679
Speaker 1: up food plots and deer manage. But and we promote

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01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:41,800
Speaker 1: both of those very heavily, in the food plots being

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01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:44,519
Speaker 1: big part of the manage the program to grow better

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01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 1: quality deer that we can hunt. But something that I've

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01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 1: seen friends do, and I've talked to some other people

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01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:55,240
Speaker 1: that have done, they get so tone vision on killing

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01:15:55,360 --> 01:16:00,160
Speaker 1: nothing but monster bucks that they forget the process us

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01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 1: and they let management be the number one dear management

1530
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:08,320
Speaker 1: in big bucks be the number one thing that matters

1531
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:11,160
Speaker 1: to them, and they start to lose a little bit

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01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 1: of the fun if they're not careful. And the number

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01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 1: one thing with hunting needs to be fun. Everybody's you know,

1534
01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:21,840
Speaker 1: what's fun to everybody is different. Uh. You know what,

1535
01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:23,960
Speaker 1: you know, I may hell something that I'm thrilled with,

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01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 1: and you would kind of, you know, you might turn

1537
01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:28,680
Speaker 1: your nose. I've had it their vice versa um. But

1538
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:31,040
Speaker 1: anytime somebody shoots a deer, you know, try to pat

1539
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 1: him on the back and encourage them. Uh. And I've

1540
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:35,599
Speaker 1: heard people, you know, beat people up. I can't believe

1541
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:38,000
Speaker 1: he shot up a little bob um, you know. And

1542
01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:39,960
Speaker 1: then the guys, you know, he's thrilled he's killed his

1543
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:42,280
Speaker 1: first deer or his third deer or whatever it is.

1544
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 1: But he shot it, and he got it in his truck,

1545
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 1: and now he's got people beating up on him. That

1546
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:48,880
Speaker 1: just seems to counter productive to me. I understand people

1547
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:51,519
Speaker 1: want to let deer grow up, but let people grow

1548
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:54,560
Speaker 1: into it themselves. Uh. And you know, and if you

1549
01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:57,000
Speaker 1: want nothing but big bucks shoting on your property, make

1550
01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 1: sure you get like minded people together. But I think

1551
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 1: you're doing it this service. If there's kids available, are

1552
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 1: people new hunters available that you can take, and if

1553
01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:07,240
Speaker 1: they shoot a dough or a young buck, you know

1554
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:11,200
Speaker 1: the world's not gonna end. Yeah, very true, very true.

1555
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:12,760
Speaker 1: And I think this is a Hey, this is a

1556
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:14,760
Speaker 1: great place for us to wrap things up. But because

1557
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:18,719
Speaker 1: that's a great final thought to end on. So so Steve.

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01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 1: If people, if there's anyone out there who wants to

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01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:24,080
Speaker 1: learn more about what you guys are doing, or utilize

1560
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:27,040
Speaker 1: some of your resources, or try one of your products, UM,

1561
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:28,920
Speaker 1: where can they go and what should they do to

1562
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:31,679
Speaker 1: get to get connected with you guys? U Two places

1563
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:34,000
Speaker 1: they can get information from us. One is our website,

1564
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:38,720
Speaker 1: whitetail Institute dot com. UM. It's got a wealth of

1565
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 1: information on their uh everything from the beginning basics to

1566
01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 1: the to the you know, most expert guy that's been

1567
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:48,800
Speaker 1: doing it for decades and decades. There's information there that

1568
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:51,320
Speaker 1: will benefit them. Also something we have talked about it

1569
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:55,320
Speaker 1: at our eight hundred number, eight hundred six eight three

1570
01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 1: oh three. Oh, we've got consultant's available. We're open eight

1571
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:03,400
Speaker 1: to five Monday through Friday, say to five Central time,

1572
01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:06,200
Speaker 1: Monday through Friday. We've got guys here that that's what

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01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:08,439
Speaker 1: that's always do. We answer the phone and answer questions

1574
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:10,840
Speaker 1: to help people, you know, decide what to plant or

1575
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:14,639
Speaker 1: how to you know, maintain them. Uh, just answering specific

1576
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:16,760
Speaker 1: questions and giving them information that can help them be

1577
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:20,480
Speaker 1: more successful. We've got hundreds of years of combined experience

1578
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:23,840
Speaker 1: doing this. UM, so they can use that eight hundred number.

1579
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:25,400
Speaker 1: You know, if they want to buy somebody, that's great,

1580
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:28,320
Speaker 1: we love that obviously, But if they just got a question, um,

1581
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:30,000
Speaker 1: you know, pick up the phone and use that eight

1582
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:33,479
Speaker 1: hundred number, uh and ask whatever questions they want. You know,

1583
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:35,840
Speaker 1: I've always you know, we've all heard this that the

1584
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:38,800
Speaker 1: only dumb question one that's not asked. So don't be

1585
01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:40,640
Speaker 1: afraid to ask, you know, anything that's on your mind

1586
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 1: to get whether you're again just thinking about getting started,

1587
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 1: or if you've been doing it for two or three decades, Um,

1588
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:48,760
Speaker 1: call us. I think we can help you, no doubt.

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01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:50,960
Speaker 1: Something that I wanted to mention to you too, was

1590
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:54,920
Speaker 1: that we're going to offer to you know, to your listeners. Uh.

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01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:57,080
Speaker 1: It's not even on our website yet, that they have

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01:18:57,160 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 1: to call eight hundred number to get this. We've got

1593
01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:02,519
Speaker 1: a d v days about forty minutes long that covers

1594
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:06,240
Speaker 1: everything from starting to finish on food plots, uh, to

1595
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:10,559
Speaker 1: help people get started. Um, if they've called that eight

1596
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 1: hundred number, what would do We're gonna ship it to

1597
01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:16,840
Speaker 1: him as five bucks and it's some of the moth

1598
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 1: best information that they can get, whether again, whether they're

1599
01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 1: thinking about getting started at their beginning or if they've

1600
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:25,760
Speaker 1: been doing it forever, there's information there that can benefit them.

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01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 1: Uh covers a lot of the basics and goes a

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01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:30,560
Speaker 1: little bit more into detail as well. So well, but

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01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:33,599
Speaker 1: that Carr eight hundred number, eight hundred six eight three

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01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:36,840
Speaker 1: oh three. Oh, and just tell them that you know,

1605
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:38,599
Speaker 1: got the number from wire to hunt. Want to take

1606
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:41,800
Speaker 1: advantage of that DVD for five bucks? Well, if that

1607
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 1: covers the ship in handling, will send it to them,

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01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:46,760
Speaker 1: give him a lot of information, makes set down with

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01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:50,120
Speaker 1: their favorite beverage and some popcorn or whatever, and uh

1610
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:51,960
Speaker 1: spent a little less than an hour. They're gonna learn,

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01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:55,439
Speaker 1: They're gonna learn something that's terrific. Well, I think that's uh,

1612
01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 1: that's a great opportunity, and I appreciate Steve offering that

1613
01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:02,200
Speaker 1: up to every one tune in today And gosh, I

1614
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:04,280
Speaker 1: can't thank you enough for spending this time with us

1615
01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:06,559
Speaker 1: to to kind of take our food plot to understanding

1616
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:08,880
Speaker 1: to the next level. And tell you what You've got

1617
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:10,800
Speaker 1: me excited to get out there and start working the dirt.

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01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:14,599
Speaker 1: Yea Mark, We sincerely appreciate the opportunity of being owned

1619
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:16,559
Speaker 1: and uh look forward to the next time. I'm looking

1620
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:17,960
Speaker 1: forward to the next time I see you at the show.

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01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:20,719
Speaker 1: We get to visit again as well. Sounds great, Steve,

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01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:22,639
Speaker 1: have a great afternoon and good luck this hunting season.

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01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:26,160
Speaker 1: Thanks marks same to you. And that's going to be

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01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:29,360
Speaker 1: it for us today. But a few quick things first.

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01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:32,400
Speaker 1: This is hot off the press the week of June.

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01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:37,479
Speaker 1: That's not next week, but the week after that. If

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01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:39,599
Speaker 1: you're listening to this when it first came out June,

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01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:42,720
Speaker 1: I'm going to be doing an Instagram takeover for the

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01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:47,040
Speaker 1: Theodore Roosevelt Conservation Partnership, which means, in short, I'm gonna

1630
01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:49,920
Speaker 1: be posting photos on their account for the week, along

1631
01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:52,240
Speaker 1: with some cool stories and some thoughts on my part

1632
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:55,160
Speaker 1: related to the outdoors and conservation. And I'm doing this

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01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:58,160
Speaker 1: because the TRCP is doing some great work to support

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01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:00,760
Speaker 1: our wildlife and our wild place is and I've just

1635
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:03,040
Speaker 1: been really impressed with what they're doing and their mission.

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01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 1: So with that said, be sure to follow the TRCP

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01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:08,000
Speaker 1: over on Insta so you can see what kind of

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01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:10,200
Speaker 1: cool stuff I might be posting during that week. That's

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01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 1: the week of June. Now, next, of course, we want

1640
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:16,680
Speaker 1: to thank our partners who have supported this podcast. So

1641
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:20,320
Speaker 1: big things to Sick of Gear, Y, Eddie Coolers, Matthews Archery,

1642
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:24,920
Speaker 1: Maven Optics, Whitetail, Institute of North America, Trophy Ridge and Hunt,

1643
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:27,400
Speaker 1: Terra Maps, and a shout out to you guys too

1644
01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:29,880
Speaker 1: for letting our partners know how much you appreciate them

1645
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:33,400
Speaker 1: supporting the podcast. One of you recently posted on Sick

1646
01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:35,639
Speaker 1: of Gears facebook page giving Wired to Hunt a nice

1647
01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:38,160
Speaker 1: big shout out and that was super cool and so

1648
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:41,559
Speaker 1: greatly appreciate, so you know who you are. Big Things,

1649
01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:45,040
Speaker 1: And finally, thank you to all of you for listening.

1650
01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:47,760
Speaker 1: I appreciate every single one of you out there. I

1651
01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:50,799
Speaker 1: hope you found some some stuff in this podcast episode

1652
01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 1: to to get you pumped it out there and doing

1653
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:54,280
Speaker 1: some food plots and to be working in the dirt.

1654
01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:59,040
Speaker 1: And until next time, I hope you'll stay Wired to Hunt.

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Speaker 1: You do