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Speaker 2: relate to this when you're coming up through San Diego

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Speaker 2: State and at a certain point, whether this was young

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Speaker 2: or old or anywhere in between, where you realized that

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Speaker 2: being a professional athlete was an option for you for

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Speaker 2: your career. I bet you had some others around you,

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Speaker 2: some friends, some teammates who have the same at least

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Speaker 2: possibility of also being a professional athlete.

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Speaker 3: Am I right?

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Speaker 4: Yes, I know exactly.

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Speaker 3: It was okay?

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Speaker 2: And did you at that time think to yourself, well,

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Speaker 2: I hope I make it and they don't, because it

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Speaker 2: would be more special if just I make it and

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Speaker 2: not them too.

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Speaker 3: Did that ever cross your mind? No, didn't think so,

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Speaker 3: not at all. So right, So here's what I'm getting at.

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Speaker 3: I love the Hall of Fame ceremonies, some of these speeches,

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Speaker 2: As the San Francisco guy seeing Patrick Willis going yesterday,

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Speaker 2: I love I love the jackets, I love the emotion.

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Speaker 2: I love so many things about the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: What I do not like, though, is the debate. It

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Speaker 2: my god, it makes me scratch my head. And if

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Speaker 2: I hear another person break down whether or not Eli

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Speaker 2: Manning should or shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna just remove my ears from my

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Speaker 3: He's getting in so you put that aside.

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Speaker 2: And secondly, what is everybody worried about with the idea

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Speaker 2: of people making the Hall of Fame who they don't

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Speaker 2: think should be there, Like, whoever paid any price for that?

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Speaker 2: What bad thing happens if someone gets elected to the

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame that you thought shouldn't be in there.

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Speaker 2: This watering down of the whole process that everybody warns

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Speaker 2: us about, I've never felt it in my entire lice.

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Speaker 5: It was only three hundred and seventy eight players in

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Speaker 5: the Hall of Fame, thank you. That's not very watered

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Speaker 5: down getting to that number of three seventy eight this year,

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Speaker 5: and so just you know, to be you know, transparent.

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Speaker 5: I was there, I was there. I just gow back

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Speaker 3: I'd love to hear about it.

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Speaker 5: Andre right, Andre Johnson, Yes, sir, well deserved, unbelievable talent,

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Speaker 5: teammate person period, Very emotional, very teary eyed. His speech

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Speaker 5: was amazing. He spoke from the heart because the teleprompter

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Speaker 5: a man of few words. And just to hear him

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Speaker 5: speak about his family, his uncle, his mom, his daughter,

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Speaker 4: It was just a beautiful, beautiful situation.

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Speaker 5: After a I don't know, three hour rain delay, I

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Speaker 5: And I've told this story a million times. Are talked

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Speaker 5: I don't even have to think about it. And I've

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Speaker 5: like I remember, every week, whether we played them or not,

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Speaker 5: Hester highlights and these are just the game they had

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Speaker 5: literally the game they had just played the week before,

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Speaker 5: special teams meeting when I was in Houston with his

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Speaker 5: highlights because that's how great he was. Every single week.

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Speaker 5: You they he said it in his speech. They changed

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Speaker 5: the kickoff rule where they moved the ball forward, so

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Speaker 5: it essentially took players like him out of that. Most

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Speaker 5: people didn't even know he played receiver. They may have

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Speaker 4: No, he was a receiver, and he made us.

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Speaker 5: Forget about what position he played and made us hold

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Speaker 5: our breath every time he touched the ball, and just

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Speaker 5: to be there be a part of that. It was amazing.

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Speaker 5: It was unbelievable. At the time of my life. The

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Speaker 5: Texans showed up and showed out Andre Johnson, representing an

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Speaker 5: to go into the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 4: And it couldn't have happened to a better player. Teammate

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Speaker 2: Well, here's what I would like to say about that.

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Speaker 2: While you were telling that story, I looked up the

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Speaker 2: the top wide receiver touchdown scorers of all time and

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Speaker 2: I looked at the top fifty and Andre Johnson's Name's

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Speaker 2: not there, so he should not be in the Hall

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Speaker 3: And then I'm and I don't think I'm mad about it.

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Speaker 3: I'm mad about it. No, No, this was that was

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Speaker 3: that was a disgrace last night that they led him in.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what, you know what really put it

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Speaker 4: over the top for him?

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Speaker 5: What And this is a real stat Andre Johnson is

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Speaker 5: the only wide receiver to put up the numbers he's

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Speaker 5: put up and be inducted into the Hall of Fame

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Speaker 5: without a Pro Bowl quarterback and are a Pro Bowl

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Speaker 4: You can put that in your pipe and smoke it. Yes,

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Speaker 4: yes you can. You can put up.

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Speaker 5: Those numbers without a legitimate Hall of Fame quarterback. Are

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Speaker 5: a another legitimate threat on the other side of the

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Speaker 3: Who's the best QB played with?

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Speaker 5: Matt Chob match job, Matt Job, matchjob, okay, match job.

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Speaker 5: So you gotta remember he was putting up back to

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Speaker 5: back years would would David Carr?

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Speaker 3: He was amazing.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Oh, here's the thing, and this is what I'm

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Speaker 2: getting at what you just provided there. That was something

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Speaker 3: My god, we lose it.

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Speaker 2: We lose it or we don't know it because we're

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Speaker 2: reviewing these things at a time where some of the

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Speaker 2: people who are involved in the whole process don't even know.

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Speaker 3: They don't know, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: You and I talk about our sons and watching ball

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Speaker 2: together and everything. My sons don't know much about Andre Johnson.

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Speaker 2: They don't know Like Jude, do you know? Do you

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Speaker 2: know about Andre Johnson? He's ten years old. Do you

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Speaker 2: know about Andre Johnson? He's saying yes. I think it's

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Speaker 2: because he thinks he wants me to say yes, you

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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, But there's no way, no, I

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Speaker 2: know you do put your hands down anyway.

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Speaker 3: My point is he's right there. They didn't live it.

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Speaker 3: They didn't live it, they didn't see it.

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Speaker 2: They don't know those little things that you're talking about.

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Speaker 2: But I guess my question for the football world tonight

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Speaker 2: is what's it to you. I find that so odd, Like,

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Speaker 2: nobody in the history have ever has been inducted to

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Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame and they're up there talking and

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Speaker 2: people are looking at him like, you know what, that

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Speaker 2: guy really wasn't very good. That's never happened. It's never happened.

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Speaker 2: If you're up there, you're amazing. Are there different levels

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Speaker 2: of amazing? Yes, sure of course, sure, sure they're not

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Speaker 5: Look at his limited run. Look at look at Terrell Davis,

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Speaker 5: one of my former teammates. Look at Patrick Willison playing

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Speaker 5: eight years, seven of them happened to be first team

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Speaker 5: All Pro.

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Speaker 4: How about that a man?

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Speaker 5: How about this young man came into the league, was

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Speaker 5: the defensive Rookie of the Year, made the Pro Bowl

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Speaker 5: one had done that ever, ever, on any level. Right,

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Speaker 5: So when you start talking about, well did he do it?

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Speaker 4: Long enough? You do it a year at that level?

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Speaker 4: Do it once?

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Speaker 5: Have one year like Patrick Willis had his first year,

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Speaker 4: Come on, what are we doing?

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Speaker 3: I just it's just confusing to me.

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Speaker 2: I just I don't understand why anybody would ever be

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Speaker 2: turned off by someone making the Hall of Fame, because

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Speaker 2: every single time I've asked somebody, what's what's the problem.

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Speaker 2: So Eli gets in and Philip Rivers gets in, and

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Speaker 2: Matt Ryan has a speech, what's the problem?

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Speaker 3: What is the problem? What are we wide? Oh but

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Speaker 3: a wa, are it just to de legitimate what are

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Speaker 2: It doesn't, It doesn't, It never has. That's never been

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Speaker 2: a thing. I don't understand. And I know I'm fighting

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Speaker 2: a losing battle. I'm not going to single handly take

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Speaker 2: down Hall of Fame debates tonight, But I just whenever

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Speaker 2: you're on the other side of that, what's going on there?

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Speaker 3: Why who cares? Let him? Live?

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Speaker 4: In a divisive world, humans love to be right.

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Speaker 5: And anything that's contrary to what they believe is wrong.

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Speaker 5: This is the state of the world we're in right now.

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Speaker 5: Whether you're a it used to be you could be

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Speaker 5: friends with a Republican or a Democrat.

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Speaker 4: It used to be your coworker or your friend, or.

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Speaker 5: Somebody in your family's like well, I like that, Mama,

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Speaker 5: and then, but that was it. Now it's like you

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Speaker 5: got follow him. I hate you, but you're my child's godfather.

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Speaker 5: Oh I hate him too now. Right, So we live

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Speaker 5: in a society where everyone has a voice. Social media

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Speaker 5: has given everybody a platform. Podcast has given everybody a

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Speaker 5: somewhat stage. And the more outrageous your your take, it's

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Speaker 5: called a hot take, the more you can go quote viral.

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Speaker 4: That's what you want. You want to debate, whether you

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Speaker 4: have any.

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Speaker 5: Any leg or knowledge to actually have a coherent debate

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and therefore was double teamed his entire career.

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Speaker 5: It was crazy for him to put up back to

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Speaker 3: Even though you've never even been on the field with him.

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Speaker 5: cleaning up after yourself, I'm one hundred percent okay with

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Speaker 5: that because I've seen it get out of hand. I've

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Speaker 5: seen it be a mess. And on top of that,

441
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Speaker 5: it's not fair to our support staff because the locker

442
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Speaker 5: room can look like crap when we leave and go home,

443
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Speaker 5: but when we come back, it's immaculate, right, It just

444
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 5: the mess doesn't.

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Speaker 4: Stay like in your dorm room or your apartment.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Now, I can feel everything you said there without

447
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 2: fully accepting that. Caleb is the one to point that out,

448
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,400
Speaker 2: and I get I get that there's a little bit

449
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Speaker 2: of a push pull here because A he's a rook

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Speaker 2: but b's the quarterback. Therefore you're supposed to be a leader,

451
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 2: but you're not supposed to be a leader. Yet I

452
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 2: get that that can be a difficult line to walk.

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Speaker 2: Former NFL receiver a Moni Tumor had some very very

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Speaker 2: pointed comments about this, which we want to let you

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Speaker 2: hear coming up next. I will continue to react to

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Speaker 2: this and talk it out. That's around the Bend with

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Speaker 2: e from Salama.

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00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 3: Mark Willard on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 3: Okay, tyer rag dot com Studios, And sure this is

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Speaker 3: actually true.

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Speaker 2: For anybody who starts any new job, you almost have

463
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Speaker 2: to like spend your first few weeks acting like.

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Speaker 3: You know what you're supposed to be doing. You know

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Speaker 3: what I mean. It's like, oh, yeah, I got it.

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Speaker 3: You know, boss comes by everything going great, great, great,

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Speaker 3: great great.

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Speaker 2: I mean, in truth, I don't even know where the

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Speaker 2: bathroom is, but yes, it's great, So like I get it.

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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams, you're the CEO now of the of the

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Speaker 2: on field Bears. At the same time, people are gonna

472
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Speaker 2: want you in your place.

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Speaker 3: So to speak, because you're just a rook. What do

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Speaker 3: you make of this?

475
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Speaker 2: Amani Tumor, former Giants receiver, had this to say about

476
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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams telling teammates to clean up the locker room.

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Speaker 3: He's Russell Wilson two point zero. Uhh, this is not

478
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Speaker 3: gonna go over. Well, if you came in the locker room,

479
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Speaker 3: I've been here.

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Speaker 8: I've been in this locker room for eight years, like

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Speaker 8: you said, And you know, some rookie's gonna come in

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Speaker 8: who hasn't played one snap right talking. We're wearing the

483
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Speaker 8: fingernail polish, you know. Now he's gonna come in here

484
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Speaker 8: and tell me we've been here, who've been through the

485
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Speaker 8: struggle that I need to clean up? No, how about rookie,

486
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Speaker 8: how about you clean up after me?

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Speaker 4: How about that?

488
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Speaker 3: Don't give me this crap.

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Speaker 1: I don't like it at all.

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Speaker 8: I feel like rookies should earn their respect.

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Speaker 3: Sure, just because you got.

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Speaker 8: Drafted number one doesn't mean nothing to me, because I

493
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Speaker 8: don't even know if you're good.

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Speaker 3: What do you make of it?

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Speaker 5: Well, I understand what he's saying, and that's spoken like

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Speaker 5: someone who played when I played. And what a lot

497
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Speaker 5: of guys in my era and before failed to realize

498
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Speaker 5: it's a different league, just like the guys before us.

499
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Speaker 5: Art used to tell us stories. Art the Great Art

500
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Speaker 5: Shell and comparable Art Shell. We used to tell us

501
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Speaker 5: stories about when he was in the league, and it

502
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 5: was completely psycho psychotic, completely different than than than when

503
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Speaker 5: we were our time in the league, and so generationally

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Speaker 5: that's what happens now. I don't even know why you

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Speaker 5: throw the fingernail polished in there.

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Speaker 4: It is what it is.

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Speaker 5: None of that's going to matter if this kid can play.

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Speaker 5: What I do agree with is that he doesn't. We

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Speaker 5: don't know if he can play yet. I get that,

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Speaker 5: I understand that. But the organization, the franchise, has drafted

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Speaker 5: him with the first pick in the draft, and what

512
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Speaker 5: they're placing on his shoulders, whether he's ready or not,

513
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Speaker 5: they're placing the entire franchise on his shoulders. Because when

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Speaker 5: you take a quarterback at that position, at that pick,

515
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Speaker 5: that's what you're doing. He is the face of the franchise.

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Speaker 5: So to tell him to like, we're going to find

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Speaker 5: out if he can play or not. This isn't a

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Speaker 5: show me in practice or what he has it. He's

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Speaker 5: going to get the opportunity. So I'm not going to

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Speaker 5: argue with someone one if they're right now. If he

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Speaker 5: came into the locker room, was like, hey, we're not

522
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Speaker 5: gonna listen to music in the locker room. Before practice.

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Speaker 5: We're not going to do this, We're not going to

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Speaker 5: do that. Then now we have an issue. Now I

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Speaker 5: was like, hey man, slow down, all right, you're doing

526
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Speaker 5: too much. But hey man, just pick up after yourself.

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Speaker 5: How can that be the thing? You're gonna hang you you're.

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Speaker 4: Gonna die on that cross? Sure?

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Speaker 2: Sure, sure, no, I get that. That's that's fair boy.

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Speaker 2: It's a that's a tight rope to walk. It is,

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Speaker 2: it is, But did you go ahead?

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Speaker 5: The bottom line is that the reason we he's doing

533
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Speaker 5: there is a support sea. Like the locker room will

534
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Speaker 5: be cleaned every single day, two three times a day.

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Speaker 5: If he's like, yo, man, we don't have to be

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Speaker 5: animals in here, right, Like don't cut your tape off,

537
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Speaker 5: which happens and throw it in the middle of the room.

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Speaker 5: It's trash cans. Every every three feet there's a trash can.

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Speaker 5: So like you're consciously just throwing your tape on the ground,

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Speaker 5: You're consciously just throwing your used towel on the ground.

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Speaker 5: Like that's a you, that's a that's a personal issue.

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Speaker 5: The respect. Let's not be spoiled brats. We haven't won

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Speaker 5: anything in a long time, so have responsibility for yourself,

544
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Speaker 5: which translate to how you conduct yourself on the field,

545
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Speaker 5: how you carry yourself. That's why guys have to wear suits.

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Speaker 5: They used to have to wear suits because this is

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Speaker 5: a business trip. You are there entertain top and some

548
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Speaker 5: shorts and you get off the plane. You you you

549
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Speaker 5: look like you're going to hang out at the beach.

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Speaker 5: So it's a it's it's it's a personal accountability thing.

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Speaker 5: And I'm really okay with that. I really am.

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Speaker 3: Have you watched to off season Hard Knocks with the

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Speaker 3: New York Giants.

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Speaker 4: No, I haven't watched it yet.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you know, part of what I'm thinking might be

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Speaker 2: shaded a little bit by that. It was fascinating access

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Speaker 2: Man to check out how a draft actually comes together,

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Speaker 2: what the phone calls sound like between teams when they're

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Speaker 2: talking about trade possibilities, what the phone calls sound like

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Speaker 2: between a GM and an agent during free agency, And

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Speaker 2: when I look at the way the draft came together

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Speaker 2: and the way teams. Not that the Bears were never

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Speaker 2: going anywhere. The Bears were taking Caleb Williams, but I

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Speaker 2: have a perception of when we're gonna go top three

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Speaker 2: or top five quarterback. We got to be like obsessed

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Speaker 2: with that guy obsessed. I'm not giving that pick up.

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Speaker 2: That's my quarterback, that's my chance. And there was a

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Speaker 2: lot of dangling this and dangling that, and should we

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Speaker 2: go get a quarterback, should we stay where we are?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, like just and it made me feel

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Speaker 2: like the teams didn't even necessarily fully believe in what

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Speaker 2: they were doing themselves in some cases, in some cases,

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Speaker 2: and so I got again, all I did was watch

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Speaker 2: HBO Max, but I got one eyebrow up on those

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Speaker 2: top three quarterbacks specifically because it felt to me like

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Speaker 2: the Marvin Harrison juniors and the Malik Neighbors of the world.

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Speaker 3: Now, those were the sure things to me.

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Speaker 4: But that's less pressure. Sure, that's less pressure.

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Speaker 3: So with that.

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Speaker 5: Greatness is at that quarterback position doesn't happen out the

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Speaker 5: gate much.

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Speaker 4: But it does but not much.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, no, I hear that. All right?

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Speaker 2: Not done with this conversation, but also we get to

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Speaker 2: Team USA hoops coming up next.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Radio looking at that first round of

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Speaker 2: the NFL Draft. I mentioned Harrison Junior, I mentioned Malik Neighbors.

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Speaker 2: I'm also a real big Roma Donda guy. Real big

590
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,240
Speaker 2: love his game, love the way he came off, looks

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Speaker 2: like somebody that's got the head really really screwed on straight.

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Speaker 3: Now it's a TV show, so who knows, but big

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Speaker 3: fan there. And then meantime you bring in who I

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Speaker 3: would probably tab as the elder statesman of current great

595
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Speaker 3: receivers in the NFL in Keenan Allen, and you've got

596
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Speaker 3: your your standalone weapon from years past. And DJ Moore,

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Speaker 3: who you just broke off an absolute fortune too. That's

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Speaker 3: threec receivers with a real.

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Speaker 2: Name imprint, and that ain't easy in the NFL to

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Speaker 2: make sure that all of them are feeling a certain

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Speaker 2: way because they are receivers and they can't have the

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Speaker 2: ball unless someone gives it to them. And your quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: never played in the NFL before, tell me how that.

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Speaker 3: Works out it.

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Speaker 5: First of all, it should be very comforting for Bears,

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Speaker 5: you know, organization and fans, and especially for Caleb Williams

607
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Speaker 5: when you have that level of talent at your disposal.

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Speaker 5: They also bolstered the offensive line. They did the things

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Speaker 5: that they hadn't done previous years for previous regimes of quarterbacks. Right,

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Speaker 5: They pretty much let justin fields just go out there

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Speaker 5: and try to figure it out himself.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 5: In terms of the a level of talent that was

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Speaker 5: surrounding him, starting with up front, it's hard to get

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Speaker 5: settled when you know you got people at your feet.

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Speaker 5: So to that point, there is going to be a

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Speaker 5: learning curve. There's going to be difficult. I'm interested to

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Speaker 5: see how they're going to move forward with him in

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Speaker 5: in in preseason because I think he needs to get

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Speaker 5: as many reps as possible. Now I know, you know,

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Speaker 5: the receiving corps, the veteran guy, they won't be available

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Speaker 5: for him maybe the third preseason game or how many

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Speaker 5: preseason games is now?

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Speaker 4: Is it three or four?

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Speaker 3: Three Hall of Fame game?

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Speaker 4: Right? Right?

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Speaker 2: But you know we're talking Bears and he didn't play right,

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Speaker 2: which I would.

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Speaker 4: It shocked me a little bit.

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Speaker 5: I thought to give him a series early on, just

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Speaker 5: to get the energy of of game situation. I thought

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Speaker 5: that would have been conducive to his growth. They chose

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Speaker 5: not to do it. Okay, whatever that is, that's fine.

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Speaker 5: But the more he plays outside of practice, the better

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Speaker 5: it will be for him. Because there is no stay

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Speaker 5: off the quarterback in the preseason.

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Speaker 4: It's literally you gotta be able.

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Speaker 5: To survive the fire, because the fire is coming, it's

639
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 5: going to get hot in that kitchen. And in the

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00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 5: preseason it's you know, ten times slower than the regular season,

641
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Speaker 5: even more than that. So I would like to just

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Speaker 5: keep an eye on how they're going to approach his

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Speaker 5: playing time. I don't think he's one in one of

644
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Speaker 5: those situations where we're just gonna wait till the regular season.

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Speaker 5: We're not going to have any of the starters. We

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Speaker 5: can't do that. It's too much on the line there,

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Speaker 5: too much has been done this offseason to bolster that team,

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Speaker 5: and so I think they should really get to trying

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Speaker 5: to play as live a football as you can with

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Speaker 5: these three preseason games left. So I would I would

651
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Speaker 5: run him hard these next two and let him rest

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Speaker 5: the third one.

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Speaker 4: That's my opinion. Yep, like run him hard.

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Speaker 5: I'm talking about first game, he plays a half, second game,

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Speaker 5: he plays a half and comes out the third quarter

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Speaker 5: and plays a couple series. Like I would, I would

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Speaker 5: run him hard like that because essentially he won't be

658
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Speaker 5: playing against starting defenses and all of that, so you

659
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Speaker 5: would want to see him just in action in terms

660
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Speaker 5: of being able to make the right reads and throw

661
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Speaker 5: receivers open and all of the new ones that comes

662
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Speaker 5: with being an NFL quarterback opposed to a college quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you in terms of how to play it.

664
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 2: But I also just just when I go back through

665
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 2: the top ten in the NFL Draft, there are some players,

666
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 2: and maybe this is an unfair comparison, there are some

667
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 2: players I have so much confidence in in terms of

668
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 2: what they're going to be in the NFL, and none

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Speaker 2: of them play quarterback. And that was half of the

670
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 2: top ten, half of the top ten. And I do again,

671
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Speaker 2: I think the best one of the group in the end,

672
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 2: just my prediction doesn't mean much, But the best one

673
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 2: in the end is the one who we're barely going

674
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 2: to see this year, and that's Michael Pennix.

675
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 3: We'll see, we'll see.

676
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 2: Speaking of too many big names and a ball to

677
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 2: go around, let me ask you this because you know,

678
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 2: for people who don't know you played in the NFL,

679
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,320
Speaker 2: but if you know the big fella, this is actually

680
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 2: a hooper that I'm talking to right here on the

681
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 2: other end. And so team USA basketball, and this is

682
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 2: maybe inspired by comments made by Shaq, but I think

683
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 2: we've all sort of felt this. I predicted before the

684
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 2: Olympics started, the Team USA will not win gold, and

685
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Speaker 2: in this moment that's.

686
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Speaker 3: Looking like a foolish pick. We'll see.

687
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 2: We all know about how the world is caught up

688
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 2: and complacency in all of this. But Shaq made a

689
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 2: comment about like, I'm not gonna be impressed. I'm not

690
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 2: gonna be in prossed unless they unless they all they

691
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 2: win all their games by twenty plus, and maybe they will.

692
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Speaker 2: But there's something missing in this process with Team USA basketball,

693
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 2: the Olympics, the.

694
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Speaker 3: Whole idea of doing what we're doing. What's the win?

695
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Speaker 2: I've almost become so beaten down by the process of

696
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 2: names that big playing in the Olympics to where it

697
00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 2: seems like one of two things will happen. Either they

698
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 2: win gold and people will be like, Yon, you have

699
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 2: all the good players, or you don't win gold and

700
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Speaker 2: then you're a disgrace because you didn't win gold. So

701
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 2: exactly what are we doing here? What's the point? What's

702
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 2: the concept? What's the win? I don't I really don't

703
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 2: see it.

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Speaker 5: Well, I could tell you what it is. It's uh,

705
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 5: what is it? It's pride, pride in country, It's what

706
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 5: the Olympics is about.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think we've got too much of it though,

708
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Speaker 3: is my point.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but you got to remember this is we can't

710
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 5: look at this like the NBA scale. We're looking at

711
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 5: this like the world game. This is the World Olympics.

712
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 5: Everybody is being represented here and we're one of those teams. Yeah,

713
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 5: you can yawn and like, oh, well we're supposed to

714
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 5: win and all that, but if you've been watching these

715
00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 5: games like I've been watching these games, you can see

716
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 5: that it is not a foe gone conclusion for the

717
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 5: US to win gold. Like we've seen teams come out

718
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 5: and be like, oh this the's no team they can

719
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 5: beat them. Now watching other teams, I'm like, oh, okay, well,

720
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Speaker 5: you know even the South Sudans who are who are

721
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 5: no longer in the tournament, right, just the level of

722
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 5: talent that they have their brand new nation. When you

723
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Speaker 5: look at Puerto Rico and what Alvarado is doing there

724
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 5: and how he's galvanized those guys. Long stretches of these games, Uh,

725
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 5: the US is fight. They have to fight. It's not

726
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 5: it's not easy, it's not we coming. We're starting out

727
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 5: twenty four to zero, right when you when you're playing

728
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 5: against Serbia, who has the you know, three time league MVP.

729
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 5: When you playing against Canada, who hasn't lost yet and

730
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Speaker 5: they have five NBA starters in their starting five plus

731
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 5: some other guys on the bench. This is now about

732
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 5: It's not so much about you. I mean we're supposed to.

733
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 5: Now it's about, hey, we have to continue to show

734
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 5: our dominance in this because in Foeba we did not right.

735
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 5: We were embarrassed. Well but see there you go, we

736
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 5: were embarrassed.

737
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Speaker 2: Like, I think what you're saying is true, but I

738
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 2: think it gets overwhelmed by perception. I don't think you're

739
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 2: going to sell to the American public. Yeah, if they

740
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 2: win and if it's close, it's amazing. It's an unbelievable

741
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 2: accomplishment because these other teams are good. Now, I just

742
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,240
Speaker 2: don't think that that makes its way to the sports bars.

743
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 2: The bottom line is, dude, you have Steph lebron em

744
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 2: Bead Tatum.

745
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Speaker 3: And all, like, what are we doing?

746
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 2: Like the perception is I don't care if Yo gets

747
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 2: placed for someone else, it doesn't matter. The perception is

748
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 2: it's no different in fact that I think it's a

749
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 2: it's a steroid version of the Kevin Durant Warriors and

750
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 2: I and I lived it, dude, Yeah, yeah.

751
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Speaker 5: But the difference is there's no role players on the

752
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Speaker 5: US Olympic team.

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Speaker 4: That's a difference.

754
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 5: I'm watching through a basketball lens, so I'm watching like essentially,

755
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,399
Speaker 5: I watch all the NBA game games, not like a fan,

756
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,720
Speaker 5: but through a basketball lens. So one of the toughest

757
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 5: things you can do. The best teams that have ever

758
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:40,399
Speaker 5: played in the NBA have They have superstars, and they

759
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 5: have dynamic, tremendous role players, of course, dynamic and tremendous.

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00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 5: What happens when you have all all stars, when you

761
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 5: have all alphas who no one on their team outside

762
00:46:56,120 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 5: of Derek White plays as the support staff essentially.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you what you get.

764
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,280
Speaker 2: You get an international incident when one of them gets benched,

765
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Speaker 2: That's what you get.

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00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 5: Well, that's just what happens, right, Terrese Halliburton is barely playing,

767
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 5: and Jason Tatum didn't even play the first game, correct, right,

768
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 5: He just wanted the title. So more goes into putting

769
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 5: together a championship gold medal team than they got. All

770
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 5: the talent it's got to the teams they're playing, have

771
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 5: been playing outside of the NBA. Guys have been playing

772
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 5: together for decades in some cases, I get it right.

773
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,800
Speaker 5: And so once you add that level of NBA talent

774
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:48,720
Speaker 5: to these countries, it just energizes and supersizes these teams,

775
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 5: which I love.

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Speaker 4: I love for it.

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Speaker 5: To be competitive on the world stage in terms of basketball.

778
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 5: I want us to win. I want them to win

779
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 5: every game by double digits. But I also love a tight,

780
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 5: close game because I know I guess what else, the

781
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 5: NBA loves it too. Where do you think all this

782
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 5: money from this, this new NBA deal is coming from.

783
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 5: Come on, now this they're they're taking the approach the

784
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 5: NFL is taking. In terms of a global brand, the

785
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 5: NBA is a bigger global brand than the NFL. I

786
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 5: know a lot of people are like, well, come on,

787
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 5: come on, it is a bigger global brand. You thank

788
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 5: you to Michael Jordan, y'all ming, all of the great

789
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 5: the Lebron James is, all of the Stefan Marlbury and

790
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 5: what he was able to do in China. Like, it's

791
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:41,879
Speaker 5: a bigger global brand. That's why their TV rights deal

792
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:46,240
Speaker 5: is so crazy, because now those games can be seen

793
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 5: in those other countries in real time through the streaming platforms.

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00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,760
Speaker 5: This is the this is the evolution of the NBA

795
00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 5: and the next step. That's why salaries continuing to go high.

796
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 5: And we look here in this country like anybody watching

797
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 5: the NBA till to the playoffs. Yeah, but around the

798
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 5: world they are and that's the whole point. So having

799
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 5: this level of competitive uh, these competitive games with the

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00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 5: best in the NBA on the world stage is only

801
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 5: increasing the brand dramatically. And I know, uh, Adam silver

802
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 5: is like yes please, yes, yes, yes.

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00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you, can I have another?

804
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 2: You're still not gonna get the party goers with a

805
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,919
Speaker 2: beer in there right now. You're not gonna like it's

806
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 2: gonna be if if Team USA doesn't win it all

807
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 2: and doesn't win at all convincingly, it's gonna be called

808
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 2: a joke.

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00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 5: Well it's I don't know if it'll be called a joke,

810
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 5: because the gold medal is a gold medal.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 5: And you gotta remember this isn't the first time that

813
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 5: the you know, the US has won gold and had

814
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 5: to fight remember those Spain teams of course, you know,

815
00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 5: Kobe Bryant having to be unworldly and and and uh

816
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 5: Carmelo Anthony having to to to summon you know, outside

817
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 5: of Kevin Durant. Uh, Carmelo Anthony was the greatest Olympian

818
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:15,879
Speaker 5: basketball player of all times. Kevin Durant just passed him

819
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,839
Speaker 5: and scoring and rebounding and stuff like that this year.

820
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 5: And and and so when you look at that level

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00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 5: that you have to to play, so you can't just

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00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 5: walk out there, and we see that a lot in

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00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 5: these early games. The US just walks on in and

824
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 5: they find themselves down ten to two in the first period.

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00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 5: And so you know, their talent, their the leadership of

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Speaker 5: Lebron James. If Lebron James is not on this team,

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Speaker 5: they're not winning like this. That's that's what I'm getting

828
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 5: out of it. If he's not on this team, they're

829
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 5: not winning like this. So uh, it's it's still their

830
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 5: leadership still matters, you know. And and I'm I'm excited.

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00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 5: I'm looking forward to the to the knockout stages in

832
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:06,280
Speaker 5: these games and hopefully we'll be you know, celebrating Saturday

833
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 5: for the gold medal game.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned Tatum being benched coming up next. The controversy

835
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 2: that created that could bleed into the upcoming NBA season.

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Speaker 2: So certain people in life, not just athletes, but you know,

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Speaker 2: athletes are what pops to my brain. The most certain

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00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 2: people in life kind of get to that point where

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00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 2: you would never say anymore. Oh my god, I can't

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00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 2: believe he said that, cause they're just the like Connor McGregor,

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Speaker 2: you would never be like I can't believe, he said.

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00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 3: Of course, you can believe he.

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Speaker 2: Said, he'll say anything, and we've certainly gone well past

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Speaker 2: that time with Draymond Green.

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Speaker 3: No, yes, we can believe he said that.

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00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 2: Because he always says it, and because we also are

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Speaker 2: not dumb. We understand what he's doing at this point

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00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:24,760
Speaker 2: in his career, and he's preparing himself for his post

873
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:28,320
Speaker 2: basketball playing career, and that makes all the sense in

874
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 2: the world. I hold nothing against him for that podcast

875
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 2: National NBA TV. We'll see where.

876
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 3: That all goes.

877
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 2: But he made a comment a few weeks ago that

878
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 2: I thought wouldn't have landed well with general manager Mike.

879
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 3: Dunlevy if I were Mike Dunlevy.

880
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 2: Where he went on and I forget who the NBA

881
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 2: Players podcast.

882
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 3: It was because everybody's.

883
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 4: Got one now.

884
00:53:55,840 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 2: But he went on another NBA player's podcast and essentially

885
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 2: said like, I'm still looking out for the organization. I

886
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,320
Speaker 2: know there might be trades that help me and Steph

887
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 2: right now, but I'm honest with the organization, and I

888
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 2: tell him if that's a bad trade, Like we were

889
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,399
Speaker 2: about to make a trade last week, and I told

890
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 2: him that's a bad trade. And I was like, oh

891
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 2: my god, You're You're making the GM sound like he's

892
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 2: an intern coming to you and asking how you like

893
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 2: your coffee. Like he's making it look like he's fully

894
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 2: in charge. I thought, this is a little bit of

895
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 2: a slippery slope that Draymond is on.

896
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 3: I understand how comfortable he is. What about this?

897
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 2: So this is from his own podcast, The Draymond Green Show,

898
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 2: and this is how he reacts to the benching of

899
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 2: Jason Tatum in an Olympic game. Subsequently, Joe l Embiid

900
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 2: gets benched as well.

901
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 3: Take a listen to what Draymond said.

902
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 6: What I don't like about it is now, to me,

903
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 6: it feels like I could cover in my tracks, like

904
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 6: proving a point and type thing to where like, oh

905
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 6: now Joel's out of the lineup, and then today Drew

906
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:10,399
Speaker 6: didn't play. And I'm sure it's part we could rest

907
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 6: the ankle a little bit, but it's part we gotta

908
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 6: not play someone.

909
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 3: And quite frankly, I don't like it. Come up with

910
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 3: a rotation and stick with it. These teams aren't.

911
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 6: Good enough to where we're trying to match their lineup.

912
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 3: We gotta match our lineup.

913
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 6: We're not matching they lineup, by the way, because we

914
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 6: got the best players in the world.

915
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,280
Speaker 4: We're gonna match they lineup anyway.

916
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 3: With whoever we got on the court. We'll be fine.

917
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 6: So the whole like match their lineup or you know,

918
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 6: this guy out of the lineup and not disagree with

919
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:41,839
Speaker 6: it that you have to You don't have to worry

920
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 6: about because he is in the start. He's cool with

921
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 6: not being in the start lineup, because if he wasn't cool,

922
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 6: he'd be in the star lineup.

923
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 3: It's Kevin Durant.

924
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 4: Just lock the lineups here, the whole.

925
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,439
Speaker 6: Switching this guy out now, this guy ain't gonna play

926
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:53,799
Speaker 6: this game.

927
00:55:53,840 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 3: And that guy like what we doing coaching? Y'allies? Who

928
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 3: he's talking about, right? I mean, I have real questions

929
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 3: not about should he have said it. Shouldn't he have

930
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 3: said it?

931
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, Draymond's talking about Steve Kerr, that's his coach.

932
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:21,839
Speaker 3: Eve.

933
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Speaker 2: To me, this lands, This lands as Draymond not being

934
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 2: a good team player has nothing to do with Team USA,

935
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 2: has to do with the Golden State Warriors, because we

936
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 2: are now repetitively, in a very comfortable way, heading out

937
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 2: into a public space to continually criticize the front office,

938
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:51,760
Speaker 2: the head coaching staff, robbing them of their credibility.

939
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 3: How does that help you? Is my question.

940
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:02,800
Speaker 5: It doesn't. It doesn't help him, It doesn't serve him well.

941
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:09,879
Speaker 5: But you're going to adjust your lineup based on who

942
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 5: you're playing. That's what coaching does. That's what coaching does.

943
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 5: And when you're playing different countries, not teams that you've

944
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 5: played for the last five six years, they may have

945
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 5: one or two extra pieces or whatever that is. You know,

946
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 5: you have a book on them, you know what they

947
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 5: like to do. You're no, You're going to adjust the

948
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 5: lineup based on who you're playing so you can capitalize

949
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 5: on what you do best.

950
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 4: Period.

951
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 5: That's what coaching is. So yeah, sometimes Joel and b

952
00:57:52,240 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 5: doesn't need to start because he's slow and you have

953
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 5: a team like Puerto Rico who likes to run up

954
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 5: and down the court, then you need more quickness, right,

955
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 5: you need more abilities to yourself get out and transition.

956
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 5: But if you play a team like Serbia who has

957
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 5: bigs in the middle, starting with the best big in

958
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 5: the NBA, then yeah, you start Joel and b I'm

959
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 5: to bang against right, Right, That's.

960
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 4: What coaching is.

961
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 3: I mean, he said, know that the Golden State Warriors

962
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 3: better than anyone.

963
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, make more adjustments based on who's gonna start and

964
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 5: who's not gonna start than anybody.

965
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 2: Oh and we got the Steve Kurr lineup police out

966
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 2: after every game all year long already as it is,

967
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 2: which is kind of part of my point. Like, nowhere

968
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 2: near done with this. Let's keep going with it. But

969
00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:00,040
Speaker 2: you know you're talking. Sometimes you need a big, some

970
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 2: times you need quickness.

971
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 3: Sometimes you just need an update.

972
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 9: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

973
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 9: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio

974
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:14,600
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975
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 9: listen live.

976
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 2: And by the way, from I don't know if you

977
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 2: saw this, the Noah Lyles thing is great for anybody

978
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:26,919
Speaker 2: who hasn't seen the clip of the men's one. It's breathtaking.

979
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 2: First place to last place was separated.

980
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 3: What did he say? By a tenth of a second.

981
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 2: The whole thing is absolutely bananas to watch all the

982
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 2: racers come through and then just stop and they're all

983
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 2: looking up at the stadium board.

984
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 3: Nobody knows who's won, Nobody for like a good solid

985
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 3: thirty seconds, they're all just standing.

986
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 10: The announcer gave the wrong winner, actually said Jamaica takes

987
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 10: the gold.

988
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 2: Col It wasn't Steve Harvey. Did Steve Harvey announce the winner?

989
00:59:57,680 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 3: Sorry?

990
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 10: This happened with Charlie Jones in the and Pixie gave

991
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 10: the wrong winner. Remember he used to do NFL for

992
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 10: so many years for NBAC. Yeah, he missed the eight

993
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 10: hundred meters one year.

994
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 2: Did you all see what Emmanuelaccho tweeted in recapping the

995
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 2: Noah Lyles race, where he mentions what place Noah is

996
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 2: in at every ten meter mark of the entire race.

997
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 2: At forty meters, eighth place, fifty meters, seventh place, moves

998
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 2: to third for both sixty seventy and eighty meters, moves

999
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 2: into second place at ninety meters and at one hundred

1000
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 2: meters gold medalists.

1001
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Speaker 3: Wow. Crazy.

1002
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Speaker 10: And by the way, the TV ratings on the Olympics

1003
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Speaker 10: have just been phenomenal so now, and not just the gymnastics,

1004
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 10: I mean the primetime stuff. If you add it's mostly NBC,

1005
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 10: but add up the streaming and the cable channels. Primetime

1006
01:00:54,880 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 10: of last night averaged thirty four point six million. This

1007
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 10: is for any TV show in sports. These are the

1008
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:06,919
Speaker 10: largest audiences since the Rose Bowl all year.

1009
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that makes non NFL. I mean, that's what

1010
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 3: I was gonna say.

1011
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 2: That's why they don't have the Fall Olympic Games, because

1012
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 2: nobody would watch if this was going up against the NFL.

1013
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 5: And the crazy part is that those primetime numbers, all

1014
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 5: of that stuff we're watching in primetime has already happened.

1015
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 3: Appened.

1016
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Speaker 10: The women's gymnastic week from Tuesday had a larger audience

1017
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 10: on a Tuesday morning than the NFL Draft first round

1018
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 10: this year.

1019
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 3: So crazy, that's big. That's big, I mean, And.

1020
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Speaker 2: What it also says is what you like, thirty six

1021
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 2: million viewers, there's that many people in this world not

1022
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 2: on social.

1023
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 3: Media, right, because those people are all.

1024
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 5: Like, gee, the one's gonna happen even if you know,

1025
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 5: you still want to see it.

1026
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 10: That's the thing I mean, like tonight, like one hundred

1027
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Speaker 10: tonight that you're talking no.

1028
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Speaker 3: Doubt, no doubt. Okay, great stuff, Steve. Thank you.

1029
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 2: We're not done with that Draymond conversation, so we will

1030
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 2: circle back to that coming up in just a moment.

1031
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 2: We're in the ty rak dot com studios with me

1032
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 2: from Salama, Mark Willard, and it's Fox Sports Radio.

1033
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 9: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

1034
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 9: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio

1035
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 9: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to

1036
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 9: listen live.

1037
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 3: Okay live ti rank dot com studios.

1038
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 2: We'll let you here again in just a sec. What

1039
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 2: Draymondgreen said with regard to Steve kerrz lineups and rotations

1040
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 2: with Team USA. I mean, there's two things here. There's

1041
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:45,480
Speaker 2: the Draymond side of it. But for just a sec

1042
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 2: to kind of rewind back to what I was saying

1043
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:51,959
Speaker 2: earlier in the hour, Ephram is I have a hard

1044
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 2: time seeing what the win is for Team USA because

1045
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 2: if you lose, it's a disgrace. If you win, you

1046
01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 2: were supposed to and people are just kind of like, yeah,

1047
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 2: that's right.

1048
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 3: And then that's it and they move on.

1049
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 2: And what that's based in is ego, and I get

1050
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 2: it right, Like even the way we've all been talking

1051
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 2: about Team USA in all the sports for the last hour, like, oh,

1052
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 2: look at us, the big bad Americans.

1053
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 3: We've got all the medals.

1054
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 2: It's like, right, like look at our country, We've got

1055
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 2: all the money, Like some of these other countries don't

1056
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 2: have shoes, and we're like, look at us, we can.

1057
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 3: Run faster than you.

1058
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 2: So like that's part of this view of the whole

1059
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 2: Team USA experience that I think is based solely in ego.

1060
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 2: And it's what Draymond was saying when he's talking about

1061
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 2: these rotations. He's not talking about what's the best basketball move.

1062
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 2: He's essentially saying, you can't bench Jason Tatum and Joel

1063
01:03:56,200 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 2: Embiid because they're Jason Tatum and Joel Embiid. And I'm

1064
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 2: like everybody on the team is kind of that guy.

1065
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 2: So why why can the coaching staff not coach?

1066
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, it just it just seems out of place. Adjustments

1067
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 5: are adjustments, as you know, everybody's not going to play,

1068
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 5: especially in the Olympics, considerable minutes.

1069
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 4: You're going to stick with the people.

1070
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 5: That gel together based on need, based on who you're playing,

1071
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 5: all of these things that coaches know, and so to

1072
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 5: have somebody on the outside looking in giving their hot

1073
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:47,120
Speaker 5: take on what you can't do as a coach that

1074
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 5: happens to be your coach championship winning coach, there's obviously

1075
01:04:54,680 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 5: something beneath the criticism, as you allude to.

1076
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:03,919
Speaker 3: Let's let everybody hear one more time.

1077
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 2: Here's Draymond Green on his own podcast reacting to Jason

1078
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 2: Tatum being benched.

1079
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 3: Followed by Joe l Embii being benched.

1080
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Speaker 6: What I don't like about it is now, to me,

1081
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 6: it feels like a cover in my tracks, like proving

1082
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 6: a point and type thing to where like, oh now

1083
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 6: Joel's out of the lineup, and then today Drew didn't play.

1084
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 6: And I'm sure it's part we could rest the ankle

1085
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 6: a little bit, but it's part we gotta not play someone.

1086
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Speaker 3: And quite frankly, I don't like it. Come up with

1087
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 3: a rotation and stick with it.

1088
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:36,920
Speaker 6: These teams aren't good enough to where we're trying to

1089
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 6: match their lineup.

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Speaker 3: They gotta match our lineup. We're not matching they lineup.

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Speaker 6: By the way, because we got the best players in

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01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 6: the world, were gonna match they lineup anyway with whoever

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01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 6: we got on the court, We'll be fine. So the

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01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 6: whole like match their lineup or you know, this guy

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01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 6: out of the lineup and not disagree with it that

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01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 6: you have to You don't have to worry about because

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01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 6: he is in the start. He's cool with not being

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01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 6: in the star lineup because if he wasn't cool, he's

1099
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 6: being in a star lineup. It's Kevin Durant. Just lock

1100
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 6: the lineups here, the whole switching this guy out. Now,

1101
01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 6: this guy gonna play this game? That guy, like, what

1102
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 6: were we doing?

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01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 4: So who plays? Who plays every game?

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01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 3: Yeah?

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01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:19,919
Speaker 5: Exactly, who plays every game? So listen to everybody, listen

1106
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 5: apparently everybody. All right, let's name the stalwarts, right, steph Lebron, Lebron, Durant,

1107
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:36,919
Speaker 5: Durant ad and then you can bring in Now, Drew

1108
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 5: Holliday did hurt his ankle, right, so you you do

1109
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 5: rest Drew Holiday because he is an intricate part. But

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01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 5: Derek White is a tremendous You know that they are

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01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 5: in the vein of the same type of player, tremendous offense,

1112
01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 5: but also big time wing defenders. And then you look

1113
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 5: at the rotation players, which happened to be Jason Tatum,

1114
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:15,120
Speaker 5: Juel Embi Bam is also one of those games of

1115
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 5: guys who plays a lot because he's up and down

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Speaker 5: the court.

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01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 4: Uh.

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01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 5: He gives you a big that's mobile and they can

1119
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 5: run and they can push the ball down the court.

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Speaker 5: But when you look at the cord seven guys that

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Speaker 5: play right, Anthony Edwards is one of those guys, then

1122
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:37,439
Speaker 5: you got a great group. And then depending on if

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01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 5: you need a power big and B is in, but

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01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 5: if not, just watching him, watching him B with that

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01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 5: knee brais lumber up and down the court in a

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01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:52,000
Speaker 5: in a fast paced uh European game or you know

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01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 5: why would why why?

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Speaker 2: The worst part of the is when he essentially suggests

1129
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 2: that Steve Kerr and the staff are covering their butt

1130
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 2: and now they're benching people to cover for benching people

1131
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:11,920
Speaker 2: in previous games.

1132
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 3: Like now we're really talking about.

1133
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:19,600
Speaker 2: You know, messing around with the Olympic lineup, like to

1134
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:23,640
Speaker 2: cover their own pr I can't believe this story is

1135
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 2: not getting more coverage. This is an NBA star accusing

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Speaker 2: his own coach of going out in representing America and

1137
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 2: messing with the lineup to cover his own.

1138
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:40,720
Speaker 5: Pr Nobody's talking about it because it's too much going on.

1139
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 3: I would be so offended if I were Steve Kerr.

1140
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:47,840
Speaker 5: I'm sure Steve Curry. Look, this isn't This isn't the

1141
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:54,599
Speaker 5: first thing they now, Drake, I've just done something to

1142
01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 5: offend Stephen Kerr or are the organizations?

1143
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 3: So this is actually exaccular.

1144
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, he Hell, we read Steve's lips

1145
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 2: years ago on the sideline when he told his assistant coach,

1146
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 2: I'm so bleeping sick of Draymond.

1147
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:12,719
Speaker 3: So you're absolutely, yeah, it's.

1148
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:16,400
Speaker 5: They trust me. They're probably just like, okay, anyway, there's

1149
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:21,040
Speaker 5: but but look, that's just what it is. That that is,

1150
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 5: you know, that's Drake dray Mind gonna say what he

1151
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 5: wants to say, to speak to you know, how he

1152
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:33,320
Speaker 5: wants to speak, and and that's him. And so this

1153
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:40,800
Speaker 5: is this isn't shocking. It's not surprising. You know, not

1154
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 5: having Clay there has rubbed him the wrong way, of

1155
01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 5: course obviously, and so you know, as players get older, uh,

1156
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 5: and they've had success in the in the in the

1157
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 5: franchise then they believe that they're part of the decision

1158
01:09:57,040 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 5: making and there's only one player on that part of

1159
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 5: the decision making and stuff.

1160
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:04,800
Speaker 3: That's that is absolutely correct, all right?

1161
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 2: Coming up next back to the NFL, brock Perty wants

1162
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:09,240
Speaker 2: to shed the game manager label.

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01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 3: That's next.

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1167
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:21,960
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1168
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Speaker 2: The idea of what they're talking about in Eli Manning's

1169
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame candidacy, or even just the way people

1170
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:31,639
Speaker 2: talk about Eli Manning.

1171
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 3: I mean, I already went off.

1172
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:35,960
Speaker 2: To start the show about like I don't understand why

1173
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 2: everybody freaks out about the guys that are supposedly like

1174
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:42,720
Speaker 2: maybe Hall of famers.

1175
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Speaker 3: Is there a debate? Like whatever? If they get in,

1176
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:47,599
Speaker 3: they get in, And Eli Manning is not a debate.

1177
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 3: He's getting in. But one of the points that was.

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01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:53,519
Speaker 2: Fascinating that was brought up, and I think it was

1179
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:56,639
Speaker 2: Buyer who said it, He's like, you know, if we're all,

1180
01:10:57,080 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 2: if we're all just going to assume and accept the

1181
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:05,719
Speaker 2: idea that Tom Brady is the goat and we're going

1182
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 2: to parade around with that number seven super Bowl rings

1183
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 2: and we attach.

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01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 3: That to him.

1185
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 2: But then Eli, who only has two, I'll grant you that,

1186
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:26,599
Speaker 2: but Eli's will Now, those were defense, Those were defense.

1187
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 2: The New York Giants had a great defense. As if

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01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:36,839
Speaker 2: Tom Brady's first Super Bowl didn't come with him throwing

1189
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:41,040
Speaker 2: under two hundred yards and winning a game twenty to seventeen,

1190
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 2: As if he didn't beat the Rams thirteen to three

1191
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:49,679
Speaker 2: one year for a Super Bowl ring? Why do we

1192
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 2: pick and choose who gets a quarterback win? Seemingly in

1193
01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 2: a way where it's just like if we boy, if

1194
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 2: we think that quarterback is really good.

1195
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:03,639
Speaker 3: Well then he gets the win.

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01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 2: And if not, then we're gonna we're gonna give it

1197
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:11,800
Speaker 2: to someone else. We watched everybody do this just last year.

1198
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:17,679
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes did it again. Not really, not really.

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Speaker 3: That was the driving over time was the first one

1200
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:24,760
Speaker 3: he went into the whole game, first touchdown drive.

1201
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Speaker 2: The only other touchdown they had was when the forty

1202
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 2: nine ers fumbled deep.

1203
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:28,800
Speaker 3: In the zone.

1204
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:31,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, their defense saved them last year.

1205
01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:35,479
Speaker 2: Their defense saved their Bacon a Ton. Chris Jones again

1206
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:39,839
Speaker 2: again was the guy who won the Super Bowl so anyway,

1207
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:42,679
Speaker 2: you get what I'm getting at. How do we pick

1208
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:45,639
Speaker 2: and choose who gets the quarterback win and who doesn't.

1209
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:50,320
Speaker 4: It's the likability factor. Okay, that's what it is.

1210
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:53,639
Speaker 5: I mean, people didn't like Eli coming out of college

1211
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 5: because they strong armed the Chargers.

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01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:05,040
Speaker 4: And went to the Giants. So that in itself.

1213
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:07,680
Speaker 5: Oh, by the way, it's the younger brother of one

1214
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:08,840
Speaker 5: of the great quarterbacks.

1215
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Speaker 3: Yep.

1216
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 5: So your argument is going to be skewed based on

1217
01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 5: whether you like someone or not. You do it in basketball,

1218
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:22,200
Speaker 5: whether you like Lebron James or not, is going to

1219
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 5: be heavily waging on how you speak about him. Right,

1220
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:36,760
Speaker 5: If you like you know t O, if you like

1221
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:41,480
Speaker 5: any of the you know, these great players, especially quarterbacks,

1222
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:47,360
Speaker 5: it's going to skew how you speak about him, how

1223
01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 5: you view their accomplishments.

1224
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 3: Let me let me.

1225
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 2: Let me ask you then, like who in the NFL

1226
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:55,679
Speaker 2: today is suffering from unlikability?

1227
01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:59,719
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson, Okay, sure, sure, there's Ross.

1228
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, if you look at his numbers, they're

1229
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:12,600
Speaker 5: on par with any other year, any other year. He

1230
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:16,400
Speaker 5: was exactly the same person he's been his entire career.

1231
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:19,879
Speaker 4: But he's washed.

1232
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 5: Well that's it's a lot that goes into not having success.

1233
01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:32,360
Speaker 4: Right, There's a lot that goes into that.

1234
01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:34,880
Speaker 3: It does.

1235
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:38,200
Speaker 2: It does get everybody's attention when you start hearing former

1236
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:43,479
Speaker 2: teammates right, well, yeah, yeah, Hamm and Hall and throw

1237
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 2: out some different things like that. That gets my attention

1238
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 2: because that's those are people who are in the know.

1239
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 5: Likability sure, so you know, it's it's a situation that

1240
01:14:56,640 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 5: and it's just it's really human nature. It's human nature, right,

1241
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 5: skill aside. Your view on someone and their worth is

1242
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:09,880
Speaker 5: skewed based on if you like them or not.

1243
01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:13,240
Speaker 3: Well, I would look around the league right now and say,

1244
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:18,280
Speaker 3: there's probably only three quarterbacks currently. I think you tell

1245
01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:22,479
Speaker 3: me if I'm missing one, maybe a fourth. But I

1246
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:24,360
Speaker 3: don't really think he gets this label a lot.

1247
01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:28,360
Speaker 2: But there's three quarterbacks in the NFL who currently are on.

1248
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:35,280
Speaker 3: Teams that win like they're having success, yet they are

1249
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:38,600
Speaker 3: referred to as game managers.

1250
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 2: And one of the quarterbacks I'm thinking about. It's a

1251
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 2: little bit of a weird argument because it's Kirk Cousins.

1252
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:50,439
Speaker 2: He doesn't win primetime games. Supposedly, he also didn't win

1253
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 2: last year. He also pretty much didn't play last year.

1254
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 2: The year before that, he won thirteen games, but then

1255
01:15:57,040 --> 01:16:00,840
Speaker 2: he lost in the playoffs. The other one is Jared

1256
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:04,719
Speaker 2: Goff been to a super Bowl, has just been paid

1257
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:08,559
Speaker 2: north of fifty million dollars per year, took his team

1258
01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:10,760
Speaker 2: to the brink of the super Bowl this year, and

1259
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:16,560
Speaker 2: I'd argue decisions, well, but they weren't his decision and

1260
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:19,439
Speaker 2: his decision. Yeah, by the way, quick aside. You know

1261
01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:22,240
Speaker 2: how you and I keep every week we've been talking

1262
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 2: about the receiver doc on that.

1263
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 3: I finished it. I finished it, and.

1264
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:32,120
Speaker 2: Oh my god, if you thought one thing about Dan

1265
01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:40,160
Speaker 2: Campbell's decisions before watching this documentary, go watch the documentary.

1266
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:47,400
Speaker 3: It gets worse. What are you doing in slow motion?

1267
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 2: You're like, there's no way he did that, But he

1268
01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:53,280
Speaker 2: did that twice.

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01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:54,720
Speaker 6: You know what.

1270
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Speaker 2: You know what really caught me on all of that

1271
01:16:57,760 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 2: was the facial expressions.

1272
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:02,000
Speaker 3: Man, the Detroit Lions.

1273
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:05,080
Speaker 2: They were like they were twenty four to seven and

1274
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:07,200
Speaker 2: they were going to the super Bowl. They were on

1275
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:10,080
Speaker 2: their way, they were going, and then all of a sudden,

1276
01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:15,440
Speaker 2: the whole sideline collectively eight rotten eggs together, and everybody

1277
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 2: had that look on their face the whole second half, like,

1278
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:22,519
Speaker 2: oh god, what's happening. And Dan's still running up and

1279
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 2: down the yet, boy, it's that we do it.

1280
01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 3: Here we go, we go. I have faith in my home.

1281
01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 4: Off god awful, awful.

1282
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:35,080
Speaker 3: Horrific decisions. Okay. So back to Jared.

1283
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:39,439
Speaker 2: Jared golf actually on some of those fourth downs through

1284
01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 2: really good passes that got dropped by his receivers. It's

1285
01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:47,080
Speaker 2: a good player gets labeled. And you know the third guy,

1286
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:54,000
Speaker 2: brock Party. All right, what's unlikable about those three.

1287
01:17:54,240 --> 01:18:02,840
Speaker 5: What's unlikable about brock Party is being myster irrelevant and

1288
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:06,040
Speaker 5: that should be liable. It will it will be, it

1289
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:09,360
Speaker 5: will turn into that, okay, because you got to remember

1290
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 5: early in Tom Brady's success, he didn't get any of

1291
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:15,240
Speaker 5: the credit.

1292
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:16,719
Speaker 3: Sure, that's true.

1293
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:18,040
Speaker 5: He didn't get any of the credit. It was the

1294
01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:20,840
Speaker 5: defense and it was a coach period, that's just what

1295
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:26,800
Speaker 5: it was. It wasn't until he continued that that he

1296
01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:34,680
Speaker 5: became Oh well it's him, yeah, right, So that's the

1297
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:36,880
Speaker 5: course that Brock perties on.

1298
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:37,040
Speaker 3: Now.

1299
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:38,759
Speaker 4: Of course he has to win one of these things

1300
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 4: at least.

1301
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 5: So that's that's why that's like that. Now, the Kirk

1302
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:50,080
Speaker 5: Cousins thing is it goes back to Washington, Washington didn't

1303
01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 5: want them, they didn't like him, and that narrative of him,

1304
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 5: you like that, like all of that follows it, right,

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Speaker 5: And because he hasn't one, he's put up tremendous numbers.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, won a bunch of games.

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Speaker 5: Now people are like you like that that, they're looking

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01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:14,479
Speaker 5: to throw it back in your face, right, So that

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Speaker 5: puts him on the you know, not likable scale.

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Speaker 3: Jared Goff. I don't know why they don't like Jared

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Speaker 3: Goff just because somebody, I mean same things.

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Speaker 4: Somebody didn't want him. Somebody didn't want.

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Speaker 3: Him, and his replacement came in and did win the

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Speaker 3: whole banana.

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Speaker 5: So it immediately makes you be like, oh, well maybe

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Speaker 5: it's not that good man. But if you just really

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Speaker 5: watch them all three of these quarterbacks that we mentioned,

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Speaker 5: they are unbelievable. Brock Purdy's numbers and twenty seven starts is.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy, it's out of control.

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Speaker 5: It's if he keeps this up, he's going to be

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Speaker 5: in the conversation as the all time one of the

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Speaker 5: all time greats. Think about that, right in twenty seven,

1323
01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:06,559
Speaker 5: if he can keep this up, he'll be In ten years,

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Speaker 5: we'll be talking about brock Purdy as one of the

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Speaker 5: all time great quarterbacks. But people don't want to they

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Speaker 5: don't want to live in that right now. They're waiting

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Speaker 5: for the other shoe to drop. Sure, they're still waiting

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Speaker 5: for the other shoe to drop for Kirk Cousins and

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Speaker 5: he's been doing it for over a decade. They're still

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Speaker 5: waiting for the other shoe to drop for Jared Golf.

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Speaker 5: So the expectation that that shoe coming off sooner or

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01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:38,480
Speaker 5: later keeps people in that mindset of.

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Speaker 4: It's okay, But I mean Eli Manning fits that. That's

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Speaker 4: how people see Eli. He'll never be Peyton. You hear

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Speaker 4: that he's never gonna be his brother what not. Many

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Speaker 4: people are right next to me, one who is paid Manning. Yeah,

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01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:06,759
Speaker 4: paid Many changed football. I mean paid Manny changed football,

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01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:09,320
Speaker 4: no question, at the quarterback position.

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Speaker 5: Paid Many completely changed how you run your offense and

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Speaker 5: what you do offensively from the quarterback position.

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Speaker 2: And that that's my question, is when you pile up wins,

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Speaker 2: certain qbs are credited with those wins. Certain qbs we

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01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:28,479
Speaker 2: have to come up and sometimes it feels like people

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01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 2: are really flexing muscles, they're really trying, they're searching.

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01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 3: They got to google some ways to figure out why

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01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:37,639
Speaker 3: that quarterback didn't have anything to do with that win.

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01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:41,839
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Like it is, it's wild

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01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:45,080
Speaker 3: to the point where people seem to see things that

1349
01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:47,720
Speaker 3: aren't happening and don't see things that are.

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Speaker 2: When I hear people talk about some of these qb

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01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:54,240
Speaker 2: while it's dink and dunk, I mean, he's just throwing

1352
01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 2: the ball two yards away from him and letting the

1353
01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:59,400
Speaker 2: runners run all over the place. It's like, did you

1354
01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:04,599
Speaker 2: miss the constant scrambling and ad libbing that's happening all

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01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:09,400
Speaker 2: over the place. Like brock Perty doesn't beat the Packers

1356
01:22:09,439 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 2: in the in the NFC playoffs last year. If he

1357
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:16,120
Speaker 2: doesn't use his legs, well he's dinking, he's dunk. What

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01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:19,599
Speaker 2: do we It's just fascinating and it brings me to this.

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Speaker 2: He's starting to talk about it a little bit more openly.

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Speaker 2: He publicly stated this week, I want to shed this label,

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Speaker 2: and I want to ask you if that's a good

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Speaker 2: thing or a bad thing that he's acknowledging it. We'll

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Speaker 2: get to that coming up next with you from Salama

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Speaker 2: you're gonna feel about this, but I did find it interesting. Normally,

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Speaker 2: especially a brock Purty type quarterbacks kind of do the

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Speaker 2: whole awe shucks thing when it's like, oh, you know,

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Speaker 2: Cam Newton says you're a game manager. Ah, we're not

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Speaker 2: worried about that, you know. I mean, I do have

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Speaker 2: a lot of great players around me and good play calling,

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Speaker 2: and I just want to make the right decision, and

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01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:16,000
Speaker 2: like that's normally the thing, well, brock Purdy, who has

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Speaker 2: a lot more like dog in.

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Speaker 3: Him than he looks like. I always say he looks

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Speaker 3: like go to your local high school at three o'clock

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01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:27,639
Speaker 3: and watch kids walking home with a backpack.

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Speaker 2: That's what brock Purdy reminds me of every time I

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01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:32,200
Speaker 2: see him. He looks like a kid walking home from school.

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Speaker 2: But he's got a.

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Speaker 3: Lot more dog in him.

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Speaker 2: And he bulked up this offseason, and he's openly talking

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Speaker 2: about shedding the label. And there's a tiny piece of

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01:25:43,320 --> 01:25:45,960
Speaker 2: me that's torn about that. It's like, yeah, man, go

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01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:48,960
Speaker 2: shed the label. But also like, really, are you worried

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01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:49,920
Speaker 2: about the label?

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Speaker 3: What do you think about that?

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01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:53,840
Speaker 4: I screw the label?

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Speaker 5: You shouldn't be worried about the label, in my opinion,

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01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:04,760
Speaker 5: because that'll once you start worrying about things or how

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01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:10,400
Speaker 5: people perceive you, it takes you away from who you

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01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:15,360
Speaker 5: are and what you've been doing. I would be like,

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Speaker 5: I don't care what they My goal is to win

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Speaker 5: the Super Bowl. Whether I fit into the mold of

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01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:25,440
Speaker 5: the quarterback they want to see.

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Speaker 4: Has no bearing.

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Speaker 5: On who I am as a quarterback and what I'm

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01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:37,280
Speaker 5: trying to do for this team. So if maybe I'm

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01:26:37,320 --> 01:26:42,840
Speaker 5: not your cup of tea, but my goal is to

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01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:45,960
Speaker 5: win the Super Bowl, and I'm continue to get better

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01:26:46,040 --> 01:26:48,559
Speaker 5: and continue to lead this team best way I know how.

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Speaker 4: That's how you answer that.

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01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:54,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, don't buy into how people perceive you, no matter.

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Speaker 4: Who that is.

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01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:57,800
Speaker 3: Well, the quote is is that he wants to be dominant.

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01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:04,000
Speaker 2: And what worries me there is not the overall idea

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01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:08,439
Speaker 2: of it. It's what does that mean on a certain play?

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01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:11,880
Speaker 2: Do you start Brett Farv in this thing? Like, are

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01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:15,280
Speaker 2: we now right? Are we trying to fit things into

1447
01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:19,719
Speaker 2: windows that don't fit? Are we trying to keep things

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01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:21,360
Speaker 2: alive longer than we should?

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01:27:21,439 --> 01:27:24,280
Speaker 3: Are we eliminating the idea of throwing the ball away?

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01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:26,680
Speaker 3: Are we eliminating checkdowns?

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01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:29,479
Speaker 2: And obviously he's not going to do that all the time,

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01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:32,679
Speaker 2: but if that thought is in the back of his mind.

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01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:36,360
Speaker 2: I just look at the Niners as a whole this

1454
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:42,400
Speaker 2: year and in a way much much smaller level. But

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01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:44,920
Speaker 2: there's a little bit of the dynamic we were just

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01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:46,320
Speaker 2: talking about with Team USA.

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Speaker 3: The only way they can go is down. Even though

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01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:52,600
Speaker 3: they haven't won the Super.

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01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:57,120
Speaker 2: Bowl yet, the expectations are so through the roof the

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01:27:57,720 --> 01:28:01,160
Speaker 2: name value is so high that you look at it

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Speaker 2: and you go, well, I mean, NFL.

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Speaker 3: Seasons don't usually go that way. I don't know who the.

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Speaker 2: Injured parties are going to be. I just know that

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01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:13,479
Speaker 2: there will be some. You know, are they the key guys?

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01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:19,200
Speaker 3: They're absolute must left tackles, not even in camp. Their

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01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:23,120
Speaker 3: receiver situation is not ideal.

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Speaker 2: And if Brock takes that to be like, okay, time

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01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:30,760
Speaker 2: to dominate.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's that's not how you. I mean, you know this,

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Speaker 3: You've worked with Shanahan. That's that's not how that works.

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Speaker 4: No, it's not.

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Speaker 3: That's not how that works at all. That's the reverse

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Speaker 3: of how that works.

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Speaker 5: Don't don't get caught up in people's perceptions of you.

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01:28:52,320 --> 01:29:01,880
Speaker 5: That's not your responsibility. It's not your responsible. Your responsibility

1476
01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:04,479
Speaker 5: is to lead the team and get back to the

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01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:06,519
Speaker 5: super Bowl and win it this time.

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01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:11,679
Speaker 2: It's got to be tough to keep all this stuff

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01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:14,400
Speaker 2: out out of your mind. I would imagine that really

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01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:16,160
Speaker 2: was sure, of course, you know what I mean, And

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01:29:16,200 --> 01:29:17,920
Speaker 2: it's not just the words that are out there.

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01:29:18,080 --> 01:29:20,040
Speaker 3: Now. We know what's looming.

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01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:24,640
Speaker 2: You know, he needs one more good year to probably

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Speaker 2: become the highest paid player in the history of the NFL.

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01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:30,880
Speaker 2: That's probably what next offseason will bring.

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01:29:31,200 --> 01:29:33,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, And so you don't need to be trying to,

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01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:41,240
Speaker 5: you know, discover new paths, right like you, you don't

1488
01:29:41,240 --> 01:29:43,519
Speaker 5: need to be trying to go down this well.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to show you.

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Speaker 5: Don't worry about anything outside of that organization, because when

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01:29:53,080 --> 01:29:55,519
Speaker 5: you start listening to them, you stop listening to you.

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Speaker 3: So I like the idea. I like the idea of

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01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:03,720
Speaker 3: getting better. Everybody should be trying to do that every time.

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01:30:03,720 --> 01:30:06,640
Speaker 3: That's it, just get better. I'm just gonna get better, but.

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01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:09,720
Speaker 2: Never But but I'm also a big, big believer no

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01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:12,839
Speaker 2: matter what you do in authenticity, which to me means

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01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:19,599
Speaker 2: like keeping you keep it, Like, yes, keep getting better,

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01:30:20,160 --> 01:30:21,840
Speaker 2: but keep doing what you do.

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Speaker 5: If I have to hand the ball off in a

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01:30:24,680 --> 01:30:29,920
Speaker 5: game in December thirty four times and pass at eighteen,

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01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:33,080
Speaker 5: I'm okay with that. I'm okay with that. Rolls the

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01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:41,679
Speaker 5: ball forty five times, I'm okay with that. Sure, that's it.

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01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:47,080
Speaker 4: Sure Other than that, what are we talking about?

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01:30:48,400 --> 01:30:51,479
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean, you know, score more points than the

1505
01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:56,040
Speaker 3: other team. Your numbers are going to be there, provided

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01:30:56,040 --> 01:30:56,320
Speaker 3: that you.

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01:30:56,520 --> 01:31:01,799
Speaker 2: Just quite frankly, stay healthy and not off with those people.

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01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:05,800
Speaker 3: I mean, that is part of it. I'm certainly never

1509
01:31:05,840 --> 01:31:08,240
Speaker 3: wanted to suggest that Brocks out there or any of

1510
01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:10,559
Speaker 3: these quarterbacks are out there doing it by themselves.

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01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:12,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, you don't want to try to fit into the

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01:31:12,800 --> 01:31:19,880
Speaker 5: category of Patrick Mahomes. You don't want to have to

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01:31:20,840 --> 01:31:24,400
Speaker 5: just they've never had a running game.

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01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:27,080
Speaker 3: It's wild, isn't it.

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01:31:27,479 --> 01:31:29,640
Speaker 5: So you don't want to have to try to be

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01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:34,240
Speaker 5: that guy. Because there's one Patrick Mahomes. It's only one.

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Speaker 2: And even they clearly came out of last year, Like

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01:31:39,479 --> 01:31:42,600
Speaker 2: I look at their offseason and I think to myself

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01:31:42,880 --> 01:31:47,000
Speaker 2: where they won the Super Bowl for the second consecutive time. Everybody,

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01:31:47,640 --> 01:31:50,679
Speaker 2: except for apparently the NFL top one hundred, everybody thinks

1521
01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:53,080
Speaker 2: that Patrick Mahomes is the best thing in the NFL,

1522
01:31:53,520 --> 01:31:55,600
Speaker 2: the most dominant thing in the NFL. He'd be the

1523
01:31:55,680 --> 01:31:58,120
Speaker 2: number one overall pick if there were a redraft of

1524
01:31:58,160 --> 01:32:02,639
Speaker 2: all the players. There's zero question about that. Everybody thinks that.

1525
01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:05,720
Speaker 2: But even the Chiefs got to last offseason and went,

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01:32:06,120 --> 01:32:08,320
Speaker 2: you know what, I think we need to give Pat

1527
01:32:08,439 --> 01:32:09,280
Speaker 2: some new weapons.

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01:32:10,240 --> 01:32:13,360
Speaker 3: You think that that felt.

1529
01:32:13,000 --> 01:32:16,160
Speaker 2: A little wobbly, We probably should tighten that up a

1530
01:32:16,200 --> 01:32:20,599
Speaker 2: little bet. Pretty tough Yeah, they went pretty hard at

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01:32:20,600 --> 01:32:23,679
Speaker 2: the receiver position in the off season.

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01:32:25,280 --> 01:32:28,600
Speaker 5: And then because when you give someone like Patrick Mahomes

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01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:36,280
Speaker 5: viable options, greatness happens. We saw what happen when you

1534
01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:44,000
Speaker 5: paired Tom Brady with Randy Moss, greatness. Outside of losing

1535
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:47,880
Speaker 5: that Super Bowl, it was nothing you can do to

1536
01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:53,880
Speaker 5: stop them, except for Eli Manning.

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01:33:33,960 --> 01:33:36,280
Speaker 2: You'll see this show posted right after we get off

1549
01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:41,679
Speaker 2: the air. We're not quite done yet. I always laugh

1550
01:33:41,720 --> 01:33:44,760
Speaker 2: at the combine. I know sometimes they call it the

1551
01:33:44,840 --> 01:33:48,800
Speaker 2: underwear Olympics now, which I think is funny. I also

1552
01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:55,160
Speaker 2: think it's sometimes an odd setting where people decide who's

1553
01:33:55,200 --> 01:33:58,560
Speaker 2: good at football by watching them not play football.

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01:34:00,120 --> 01:34:00,760
Speaker 3: That's just me.

1555
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:04,320
Speaker 2: You've got all this tape of everything that these people

1556
01:34:04,360 --> 01:34:04,680
Speaker 2: do on.

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01:34:04,600 --> 01:34:06,360
Speaker 3: A football field, then I get it. I get it.

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01:34:06,439 --> 01:34:08,720
Speaker 2: Let's see let's see you do this, let's see you

1559
01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:11,839
Speaker 2: do that, let's meet you, let's run you through some drills.

1560
01:34:12,120 --> 01:34:15,000
Speaker 2: I understand it. But if you put that above what

1561
01:34:15,200 --> 01:34:17,640
Speaker 2: they actually look like on a football field, to me,

1562
01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:21,720
Speaker 2: that's a little head scratching. But anyway, in watching hard

1563
01:34:21,800 --> 01:34:25,960
Speaker 2: knocks with the New York Giants and watching them go

1564
01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:34,479
Speaker 2: through the combine, there is the Xavier Worthy forty yard

1565
01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:41,960
Speaker 2: dash experience and it is quite the experience. So the

1566
01:34:41,960 --> 01:34:45,200
Speaker 2: wide receiver from Texas takes off and posts a four

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01:34:45,320 --> 01:34:49,760
Speaker 2: two five forty, which is damn near the record held

1568
01:34:49,800 --> 01:34:52,880
Speaker 2: by John Ross, which was at four to two to two,

1569
01:34:52,960 --> 01:34:55,719
Speaker 2: and then there's this kind of discussion for a second

1570
01:34:56,160 --> 01:35:00,160
Speaker 2: amongst coaches and staff and everything. They're like, man, he

1571
01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:02,240
Speaker 2: do it again. Like usually guys don't want to do

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01:35:02,320 --> 01:35:05,439
Speaker 2: it again. That was a good run, but boy, he

1573
01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:07,320
Speaker 2: was close to the record. So some of the guys

1574
01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:09,519
Speaker 2: were like, man, if I him, I do it again.

1575
01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:13,519
Speaker 2: And then suddenly you get the announcement, Xavier is going

1576
01:35:13,600 --> 01:35:16,479
Speaker 2: to do it again. He wants the record, and he

1577
01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:19,400
Speaker 2: runs and bang he hits a four to two to two,

1578
01:35:19,520 --> 01:35:23,240
Speaker 2: which ties John Ross's all time record, but it's unofficial,

1579
01:35:24,400 --> 01:35:29,040
Speaker 2: so wait another few minutes. Actually the official time four

1580
01:35:29,080 --> 01:35:33,360
Speaker 2: to one. He holds the record for the fastest forty

1581
01:35:33,400 --> 01:35:36,320
Speaker 2: time three two one.

1582
01:35:36,880 --> 01:35:38,920
Speaker 3: Bang. He gets drafted by the Chiefs.

1583
01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:45,080
Speaker 2: And they also bring in Hollywood Brown, So Rashid Rice

1584
01:35:46,439 --> 01:35:50,280
Speaker 2: and Travis Kelcey and now the fastest rookie on the

1585
01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:56,840
Speaker 2: planet and Hollywood Brown. And that offense which last year

1586
01:35:57,280 --> 01:36:00,000
Speaker 2: was just kind of fine if you really want to

1587
01:36:00,200 --> 01:36:02,920
Speaker 2: go take a look at it. It was fine, but

1588
01:36:03,080 --> 01:36:08,200
Speaker 2: not great, that offense run by Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes.

1589
01:36:08,920 --> 01:36:11,920
Speaker 2: I don't know, he like, we're probably not talking about

1590
01:36:11,920 --> 01:36:16,040
Speaker 2: the Chiefs enough. They got scarier after two rings.

1591
01:36:16,120 --> 01:36:17,200
Speaker 4: They did get scarier.

1592
01:36:19,160 --> 01:36:21,400
Speaker 5: But that's how you do it, right, That's how you

1593
01:36:21,439 --> 01:36:27,519
Speaker 5: build long lasting dynasties. That's how you take advantage of

1594
01:36:27,560 --> 01:36:33,720
Speaker 5: your most prized possession. And Patrick Mahomes, you want to

1595
01:36:33,760 --> 01:36:37,919
Speaker 5: populate his world with all the things that he loves.

1596
01:36:39,960 --> 01:36:43,120
Speaker 5: You want to make him smile, you want him to

1597
01:36:43,160 --> 01:36:49,960
Speaker 5: be happy. Right, It's like being in a marriage, happy wife,

1598
01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:59,840
Speaker 5: happy life, make him happy because in turn he will

1599
01:36:59,840 --> 01:37:09,120
Speaker 5: make make you happy, and your value goes up. Everything. Yeah,

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01:37:09,120 --> 01:37:10,960
Speaker 5: we're gonna go get another burner. We saw what you

1601
01:37:10,960 --> 01:37:13,760
Speaker 5: could do with Tyreek Hill. Now does this kid have

1602
01:37:13,840 --> 01:37:16,240
Speaker 5: the skill level of Tyreek Hill?

1603
01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:21,240
Speaker 4: Maybe not not yet, I mean probably not right, not

1604
01:37:21,400 --> 01:37:22,280
Speaker 4: very many people do.

1605
01:37:22,880 --> 01:37:24,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1606
01:37:25,000 --> 01:37:26,240
Speaker 4: So but.

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01:37:27,760 --> 01:37:31,479
Speaker 5: What we know is we're gonna have defenses thinking, Okay,

1608
01:37:31,520 --> 01:37:33,040
Speaker 5: we got to put the test safety over the top.

1609
01:37:33,080 --> 01:37:36,080
Speaker 5: Are he gonna blow the top off this thing? Which

1610
01:37:36,080 --> 01:37:38,240
Speaker 5: and then then turns opened up the middle of the field.

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01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:42,240
Speaker 5: It's basically all you want to do. So I like

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01:37:42,280 --> 01:37:49,360
Speaker 5: what they've done. They got better, and I'm looking forward

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01:37:49,400 --> 01:37:52,000
Speaker 5: to it. It's gonna be a great season. Man got

1614
01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:54,960
Speaker 5: a lot a lot of stuff to figure out and

1615
01:37:54,960 --> 01:37:57,840
Speaker 5: and see who's ready and who's not ready, and so

1616
01:37:57,920 --> 01:37:58,559
Speaker 5: on and so forth.

1617
01:37:58,600 --> 01:37:59,280
Speaker 4: So I'm excited.

1618
01:37:59,640 --> 01:38:03,480
Speaker 2: I mean, Jim Harbad joins the division, I would imagine

1619
01:38:03,520 --> 01:38:07,400
Speaker 2: that that team is going to have a completely different identity.

1620
01:38:07,560 --> 01:38:10,880
Speaker 2: They dump both of their top receivers, they move on

1621
01:38:11,000 --> 01:38:14,479
Speaker 2: from Austin Eckler, They grab the entire Ravens running back room,

1622
01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:18,000
Speaker 2: bring him over there, And I would imagine that this

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01:38:18,120 --> 01:38:21,760
Speaker 2: team that is, you know, even though they're not really

1624
01:38:21,800 --> 01:38:24,680
Speaker 2: identified with Los Angeles there in the middle of Hollywood

1625
01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:28,080
Speaker 2: and they wear powder blue, but they're going to be

1626
01:38:28,200 --> 01:38:31,200
Speaker 2: much more black and blue as far as their identity

1627
01:38:31,640 --> 01:38:34,840
Speaker 2: going forward. And maybe that is some sort of a

1628
01:38:34,880 --> 01:38:36,519
Speaker 2: magic elixir for the Chiefs.

1629
01:38:36,960 --> 01:38:37,160
Speaker 3: You know.

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01:38:37,240 --> 01:38:41,880
Speaker 2: The other two teams are still in like quarterback transition mode,

1631
01:38:41,960 --> 01:38:45,320
Speaker 2: so they're not much of a threat. But I mean, yeah,

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01:38:45,439 --> 01:38:48,599
Speaker 2: it's we got a lot of different things that we're

1633
01:38:48,640 --> 01:38:51,280
Speaker 2: talking about in the NFL, but the bottom line is

1634
01:38:52,320 --> 01:38:57,360
Speaker 2: somebody's got to figure out how to knock this one

1635
01:38:57,439 --> 01:39:00,120
Speaker 2: team down a peg or else. The rest of this

1636
01:39:00,280 --> 01:39:07,519
Speaker 2: is all just white noise, right, Yeah. I mean, if

1637
01:39:07,520 --> 01:39:11,519
Speaker 2: I'm the Chiefs, I love how much attention the forty

1638
01:39:11,560 --> 01:39:12,800
Speaker 2: nine ers get.

1639
01:39:13,240 --> 01:39:15,040
Speaker 3: I love it.

1640
01:39:15,040 --> 01:39:17,760
Speaker 2: It's almost like the forty nine ers won, but we

1641
01:39:17,920 --> 01:39:18,559
Speaker 2: got the ring.

1642
01:39:20,680 --> 01:39:25,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's like, yeah, that's right, the noise.

1643
01:39:25,120 --> 01:39:28,439
Speaker 2: Oh, Brock's got muscles and he's gonna get sixty million.

1644
01:39:28,479 --> 01:39:31,680
Speaker 2: And McCaffrey and Trent Williams and Brandon I Yuk and

1645
01:39:31,720 --> 01:39:36,679
Speaker 2: Deebo and George are on Netflix and oh my god, Niners, Niners, Niners,

1646
01:39:36,720 --> 01:39:39,000
Speaker 2: and the Chiefs just sitting there blowing on the back

1647
01:39:39,040 --> 01:39:39,400
Speaker 2: of their.

1648
01:39:39,320 --> 01:39:49,360
Speaker 3: Fingernails, going, uh there we got weapons this time. Okay,

1649
01:39:51,240 --> 01:39:53,680
Speaker 3: you know he gets boring in the NFL when the

1650
01:39:53,680 --> 01:39:58,320
Speaker 3: Patriots did this, he gets boring. But yeah, no, I

1651
01:39:58,400 --> 01:40:01,599
Speaker 3: mean until to someone knocks them down a peg.

1652
01:40:01,640 --> 01:40:03,680
Speaker 5: The rest of this stuff does not matter. It does not,

1653
01:40:05,360 --> 01:40:11,479
Speaker 5: it doesn't. They will be the favorites, period. Chris Jones,

1654
01:40:11,520 --> 01:40:22,360
Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes. They they're winning Patrick. Is that good?

1655
01:40:23,400 --> 01:40:23,920
Speaker 3: Of course?

1656
01:40:25,080 --> 01:40:27,639
Speaker 2: Of course, And as mentioned, I mean it is, it's

1657
01:40:27,640 --> 01:40:31,000
Speaker 2: a two horse race in that division. I'm still scratching

1658
01:40:31,080 --> 01:40:34,120
Speaker 2: my head, especially again. You know, you and I talked

1659
01:40:34,120 --> 01:40:36,960
Speaker 2: about that documentary. You come out of that documentary with

1660
01:40:37,040 --> 01:40:42,040
Speaker 2: DeVante Adams and then find out that the Raiders really

1661
01:40:42,200 --> 01:40:47,640
Speaker 2: didn't overwhelmingly address their quarterback room, right, is got to

1662
01:40:47,680 --> 01:40:52,040
Speaker 2: be aside from the Cowboys doing absolutely nothing, they slept

1663
01:40:52,080 --> 01:40:55,640
Speaker 2: through the offseason, Aside from that, the Raiders and the

1664
01:40:55,720 --> 01:40:58,760
Speaker 2: quarterback room has got to be the head scratcher of

1665
01:40:58,800 --> 01:40:59,920
Speaker 2: the entire offseason.

1666
01:41:00,160 --> 01:41:01,000
Speaker 3: I don't get.

1667
01:41:00,840 --> 01:41:03,600
Speaker 4: It, no it.

1668
01:41:04,720 --> 01:41:09,600
Speaker 5: I literally was like, oh gosh, like I'm happy for Antonio,

1669
01:41:09,840 --> 01:41:14,439
Speaker 5: but mm hmm, you know you need a quarterback. You

1670
01:41:14,439 --> 01:41:15,840
Speaker 5: want to start your ten year old. Right, you got

1671
01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:17,400
Speaker 5: to add of court. You gotta have a quarterback.

1672
01:41:19,439 --> 01:41:22,240
Speaker 2: Gardner minshew is you know, he's fine, he's good man,

1673
01:41:22,280 --> 01:41:26,439
Speaker 2: but yeah, mahomes Herbert, I get it.

1674
01:41:26,800 --> 01:41:27,040
Speaker 4: You know.

1675
01:41:29,560 --> 01:41:31,960
Speaker 3: Great stuff tonight, my man. Good talking to you as always.

1676
01:41:32,360 --> 01:41:33,839
Speaker 4: Absolutely okay.

1677
01:41:33,920 --> 01:41:35,920
Speaker 2: We're gonna talk to you next week, but right now,

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01:41:36,040 --> 01:41:38,599
Speaker 2: playing in Spain, you're coming up next for e from

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