Speaker 1: And I don't believe a dinosaurs either, crazy, where are they?
Speaker 1: What the funk you mean? Where is short neck drafts?
Speaker 1: Mike Checker. We're gonna go on good faith. Now we're good.
Speaker 1: I call it. I can check who say check your
Speaker 1: Mike check check one too, Yeah that's good. Pizza, pizza, pizza, pizza,
Speaker 1: pizza check check cheese steak, step on that pizza. My
Speaker 1: little Caesars, no sailings, g l a double dollar signy
Speaker 1: side glasses, motherfucking loke, my nigga, Peter Boss, and today
Speaker 1: we're having a conversation where my nigga Sticks watch Sticks?
Speaker 1: What's up? K E Side east Side and all that? Man?
Speaker 1: You know what? So you just put out a project
Speaker 1: right right, And we talked about this ship all the time,
Speaker 1: just so me and Sticks because like me and this dude,
Speaker 1: we have solved so many marketing crisis and issues together.
Speaker 1: Like personally, I won't even put everything we've done out
Speaker 1: because he doesn't want to be viewed in that light.
Speaker 1: He wants to keep his brand squeaky clean. And I'm
Speaker 1: gonna keep it clean because it's important to keep some
Speaker 1: of the brothers clean. Right. But Sticks is a branding
Speaker 1: giant when it comes to other people ship, but with
Speaker 1: his own ship, he just don't give a fuck. Why
Speaker 1: is that sticks? I care? I care a lot, You
Speaker 1: care a lot I do. How much do you care?
Speaker 1: On the scale of one to ten, how much do
Speaker 1: you care? So if people didn't know you had a
Speaker 1: project coming out, would you push you back? Yes? No? No,
Speaker 1: because you don't care. Because I look at music like
Speaker 1: digital real estate now. Uh so you just want to
Speaker 1: just have it even though nobody want to rent it today.
Speaker 1: Maybe later. It's like digital real estate in western Oklahoma.
Speaker 1: You think it's gonna be a great migration. No, it's
Speaker 1: like digital real estate after the Watts riots and everything
Speaker 1: burned down and nobody really looking at it. But when
Speaker 1: gentrification start happening, then people are gonna be like, oh
Speaker 1: who owned that? Oh sticks on all of this like
Speaker 1: the Watkins. So what would be the gentrification and music
Speaker 1: to make them come to you? Music always evolves to
Speaker 1: the same It's like the same cycle and effect every
Speaker 1: single time. That's one thing that I It goes from
Speaker 1: people like to listen to this type, and they like
Speaker 1: to listen to this type, and they like to listen
Speaker 1: to this type and it's a revolving door that goes around, around, around,
Speaker 1: So it will be a time frame when people want
Speaker 1: to hear whatever I was saying at the time I
Speaker 1: was saying it, and then they're gonna look up and
Speaker 1: be when they sight seeing and be like, damn, this
Speaker 1: little dope that sticks with something. It was all right?
Speaker 1: So let me ask you a question, if your mute,
Speaker 1: if this album was property in California right now, right now,
Speaker 1: give me a true assessment of where this album would
Speaker 1: be property at south Gate? Niggas know about south Gate? Bro,
Speaker 1: do people know? But do white people know about south Gate? Peat?
Speaker 1: You're asking the wrong guy, or you on half a
Speaker 1: south Gate that was like a real the same. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get pressed when I get dry Firestone Boulevard
Speaker 1: both sides. Why are you in present when when you
Speaker 1: was there Atlantic to I mean, do white people really
Speaker 1: on that? Yes? Yeah, there are are there my relatation,
Speaker 1: no white people on Southgate? Have you let me ask
Speaker 1: you a question where you from? Big Dog, Dave? Dave
Speaker 1: from Jersey? Have you heard of Southgate? Dave? Okay, what's
Speaker 1: your name? Dog? Should listen that Cypress held this? What's
Speaker 1: his name? Pat? Right, pat, you ever heard of Southgate?
Speaker 1: So maybe most people most people do not know about
Speaker 1: south So maybe so maybe you're saying that, you're saying
Speaker 1: people around you, like Glasses Malone for people like from
Speaker 1: Watts or Pete from Orange County, they've heard her, they've
Speaker 1: heard of your album. But maybe somebody somewhere else might
Speaker 1: have not heard it. But if they come to l
Speaker 1: A eventually, Oh, you're saying south Gate is gonna have
Speaker 1: an economic boom eventually. Absolutely mm. So you're seeing the
Speaker 1: gentrification is gonna happen in south Gate. It's already happened.
Speaker 1: What politician told you that sticks so sticks so sticks
Speaker 1: because so Sticks is is not well, he's he would
Speaker 1: be considered an activist. He's active as far as uh
Speaker 1: Los Angeles and California politics. Go um. Every time I
Speaker 1: talked to Sticks because he has the funniest conversation with
Speaker 1: the weirdest people, Like he tried to call me on
Speaker 1: three way with the main sheriff to dude who was
Speaker 1: like the chief of police or something like, I'm so
Speaker 1: glad I missed that phone call because it was like
Speaker 1: you didn't have an attorney present, so you don't want
Speaker 1: that phone call yeah. But also I would have not
Speaker 1: held back. I've been like and and dude, I think, dude,
Speaker 1: get a bad rap. Now he's not telling the right story. Actually,
Speaker 1: I wanted him to come to the press conference with me.
Speaker 1: That's what it was. Because the chief, the sheriff like
Speaker 1: not the like, no chief like alex Villa, the waiver
Speaker 1: like the guy. I was like, yo, I need you
Speaker 1: to come down and address to the people because they're
Speaker 1: tearing up ship. Exactly. You wouldnt killing Mike had to
Speaker 1: sell out. Shout out to my man, Mike, don't look
Speaker 1: because I'm joking. Goddamn, because I know Mike hurt that ship,
Speaker 1: like glad, don't call me because it's a joke. But
Speaker 1: it was a time when all of the riots were happening, right,
Speaker 1: and the powers that be had to find some brothers
Speaker 1: token that meant something to the community, token brothers who
Speaker 1: meant something to the community to talk the mys of
Speaker 1: talk cocktail like the hand so that we heard your speech.
Speaker 1: I didn't do that. I didn't tell nobody to go home,
Speaker 1: would you. I didn't tell nobody to stop looting. I
Speaker 1: didn't tell nobody to stop riding. What did you tell him?
Speaker 1: I told him it was they. It was the people
Speaker 1: who came before who told us how to loop riot
Speaker 1: and break ship. Tell ship, you know, Boston tea party
Speaker 1: ship like that. That's what Alex. No, I said that
Speaker 1: on national television. I did not hear you mentioned the
Speaker 1: Boston We could play they they played right there. There
Speaker 1: you go. So you're saying you incited the riot further
Speaker 1: by referencing it. Maybe maybe? And I told him. I
Speaker 1: told Alex before I went up there, I said, look,
Speaker 1: I'll come up there and and and stand next to
Speaker 1: you as long as I get to talk, and you
Speaker 1: don't tell me what I can and can't say. He
Speaker 1: was like, cool, I want you to be honest. Do
Speaker 1: you think Alex was upset that people were looting outside
Speaker 1: of the fact that's made his job part? Yeah, so
Speaker 1: you think so? You think it was like a wider
Speaker 1: version of him because as a Spanish, as a Spanish
Speaker 1: of it, right, you would think sometimes he would aligned
Speaker 1: with the struggle. Yeah, he was. More so he wasn't
Speaker 1: happy about the police who did what they did to
Speaker 1: George Floyd, But he also wasn't happy that people was
Speaker 1: tearing it up, right, because he's like, yo, that's just
Speaker 1: gonna come out of our pockets like that. See that
Speaker 1: that's some bullshit, Alex. I'm gonna tell you why that's
Speaker 1: some bullshit, Alex. That type of thinking, brother, is what's
Speaker 1: wrong with McDonald's to this day. It's nothing worse going
Speaker 1: than going to McDonald's cousin and you get a twenty
Speaker 1: piece nuggets and the nick at the window is trying
Speaker 1: to delegate how many sauces to give you? Bro, These
Speaker 1: sauces don't come out. Donald's is just wrong period. But
Speaker 1: but no, no, we're not finn slander mcdowns. We don't
Speaker 1: slander McDonald's on no sea liers. That's not good point.
Speaker 1: That's focus right, So we're angling for a very lucrative sponsor.
Speaker 1: That's not true. No, that's not true. So who's the sellout?
Speaker 1: That's not true. I'm not sponsored McDonald's. I just don't
Speaker 1: slam the I am operating through back channels. I don't
Speaker 1: slander the brand of McDonald's because I recognize greatness. McDonald's
Speaker 1: is great. Yeah, I don't slander any that's one of
Speaker 1: the best real estate companies I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 1: I don't slander any great brands. Okay, I'm with that.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna adopt that mantra slander any great McDonald's great
Speaker 1: brands because I'm literally jealous. But that's not the point.
Speaker 1: I appreciate the Alex tripping out of Alex tripping off
Speaker 1: the money like the money's coming out. It don't come
Speaker 1: out your money, Alex. The US dollar is a great brand.
Speaker 1: That's not the point focus a Alex. The money doesn't
Speaker 1: come out of Alex's pocket. It's like like the McDonald's
Speaker 1: person that's in the drive through because whatever sauces you keep,
Speaker 1: you don't get it ain't his money, bro, stop tripping.
Speaker 1: But he does pay taxes though, right, But that don't check.
Speaker 1: It ain't gonna doubless taxes. Hang back, you on a pension.
Speaker 1: The fun that was some ship. That's real game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's real game. Jesus. I don't want to know what
Speaker 1: that meant. I mean it affects him somehow. It don't
Speaker 1: affect him, No, it doesn't because his contracts guaranteed to
Speaker 1: the state. That's why the states and such. He's the
Speaker 1: fucking teller at McDonald's countless sauces. Oh you got twenties. No,
Speaker 1: he's the no. No, he's the manager of McDonald's. No,
Speaker 1: the chief of police is not the manager of mc
Speaker 1: McDonald and McDonald's is California. The chief of police is
Speaker 1: not the manager. Then what is he? He's the nigger
Speaker 1: working in the teller. He's the dude right there, he's
Speaker 1: washing lettuce. No, he's not watching, he's not on fry.
Speaker 1: He made assistant manager because right now the big Bucks
Speaker 1: is rolling in right now. So but he's still the
Speaker 1: motherfucker's assistant manager at least exactly right, assistant manager. And
Speaker 1: then who's the manager? Your boy, your boy, the slick dude,
Speaker 1: Gavin Man. Oh, if one branch of McDonald's was the
Speaker 1: state of California, not McDonald's, but one branch of one branch,
Speaker 1: one franchise, Yeah, then the no, the franchise owner is Gavin.
Speaker 1: So you're saying the most popular mayor would be the
Speaker 1: McDonald's would be the manager. Um, yeah, I suppose would be.
Speaker 1: Would that be the mayor of Los Angeles or the
Speaker 1: mayor of San Francisco. Mayor'tn't have no power, there's nothing.
Speaker 1: They're like the janitor. That's the manager and McDonald's don't
Speaker 1: have no power. Man, do that all they can do
Speaker 1: is right to scatter. The mayor of Los Angeles is
Speaker 1: the janitor of McDonald's, the guy who works at the
Speaker 1: d M vs the janitor all right in the in
Speaker 1: the distilled public sector hierarchy of this particular McDonald's. The
Speaker 1: point I'm saying is Alex tripping about people looting and
Speaker 1: riding and ship outside. If it making him have to
Speaker 1: work extra hours that he get paid for, it doesn't right.
Speaker 1: He should not be counting how many sauces. He should
Speaker 1: not be counting how many sauces that they give to
Speaker 1: somebody for a tie. That's irresponsible for him, not too
Speaker 1: because at some point it does affect the budget of
Speaker 1: other things. Yeah, but I'm with that in for the front.
Speaker 1: But in real life, was he mad? For sure? That's
Speaker 1: on the phone. So if he takes this ship home, bro,
Speaker 1: then that's a problem. That's what's wrong. What do you
Speaker 1: mean takes at home? Like if it's not like just
Speaker 1: a front, like okay, you got a front for the public,
Speaker 1: you gotta be mad, as the chief of police need
Speaker 1: to be like this is you're mad at home? Like
Speaker 1: if you're mad like them, they just bro, you're tripping, bro.
Speaker 1: Let the leave the barbecue and the spicy mustards at
Speaker 1: the job. You know, I mean he was I talked
Speaker 1: to him when he had the crib like, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. He ain't like tripping tripping, but he
Speaker 1: I mean, he's like and see, his problem is he
Speaker 1: needs to be more like Chick fil A. Explain not
Speaker 1: open on Sundays. He should not work on Sundays. Not
Speaker 1: just that, not that right, he needs that and this
Speaker 1: is what's wrong with what's not wrong. This would make
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Police Department better. The attitude could be better.
Speaker 1: I do get the impression that it is their pleasure
Speaker 1: to serve. They seem to be having a great time.
Speaker 1: I don't get that they all act like McDonald's workers.
Speaker 1: Every police around, even my homies as police, because act
Speaker 1: like McDonald's workers. I gotta go to work. Fuck and
Speaker 1: his motherfucker was just cussing me out. I'm giving this
Speaker 1: nick a ticket and this mother I'm like, bro, chill, bro.
Speaker 1: That's how they act like McDonald's workers. So somebody Gathering
Speaker 1: is fucking up. We need to get Gathering out of
Speaker 1: here and get the person who run Chick fil A
Speaker 1: to become the governor of California. Because that type of
Speaker 1: quality service is what's wrong. You gotta think somebody going
Speaker 1: to Chick fil a Sticks would have sunked up attitude,
Speaker 1: yet they still get quality service. It's you ain't never
Speaker 1: seen a fight at Chick fil A. I've seen the
Speaker 1: fight to McDonald's, Burger KINGE, Jack in the Box, Rallies,
Speaker 1: never Chick fil A and Popeyes for sure. Popeyes, I
Speaker 1: ain't never seen a fight of Chick fil A because
Speaker 1: they disarm your attitude when you walk through the door.
Speaker 1: Chick fil A is the kind of place because where
Speaker 1: they probably give you the on certain days that you
Speaker 1: give your free limon ef you have free limond walking out,
Speaker 1: that's kind of toxic. No, it's not to fake happiness. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no, it's not happiness. Right, it's quality of service.
Speaker 1: But you're pretending to be No, you're not. You're not.
Speaker 1: As said that, you have to be this, yes, because
Speaker 1: when you clock in at here, this is that Now,
Speaker 1: once you clock out, you know, you take off that
Speaker 1: check fil a out field. You can fight everybody want
Speaker 1: to in traffic, but once you clocked this motherfucker, punch
Speaker 1: this clock up him up him. Yes, not McDonald's. They
Speaker 1: run this motherfucker like McDonald's. Ever, everybody who works for
Speaker 1: the government in the state of California, it is like
Speaker 1: this gruntled as fuck. I mean you you ever, like,
Speaker 1: how's how's the customer service experience at a d m
Speaker 1: V after? Like I was at DMV the other day
Speaker 1: for six hours. I was there for six hours to
Speaker 1: pick up license plates. So you're saying everybody like McDonald's
Speaker 1: all the whole government, the whole state, the actual ecosystem
Speaker 1: that is the government of California. Like also all the jobs,
Speaker 1: d m V, everything, police, everything is McDonald's and don't know,
Speaker 1: fuck what don't you ever disrespect in and out Nickel
Speaker 1: and it out has quality service. They only give They
Speaker 1: only offer you so many options a choice. Californy, take
Speaker 1: what they give you. California got a thousand lines, is
Speaker 1: long and it takes forever to California. Just do. California
Speaker 1: got parphased, and everybody leaves in and out happy, Everyone
Speaker 1: leaves dealing with California anything happy. Ever, I disagree. Never
Speaker 1: when people move from California, they're gone. I disagree. I
Speaker 1: know you do. California is the best place in the
Speaker 1: United states. That's garbage. I've been to everything. I've been
Speaker 1: literally forty eight states. How many have you lived in
Speaker 1: full time? I've lived probably in one percent of them,
Speaker 1: at least a month at I've lived on the East
Speaker 1: Coast for a month. I did. I lived in New York,
Speaker 1: Clinton Hill, stay somewhere. He went to New York. The
Speaker 1: other piece of dogshit runs state. You picked the two
Speaker 1: You pick numbers forty nine and fifty. You picked McDonald's.
Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time in Atlanta, McDonald's in
Speaker 1: Taco bell I spent a lot of time in Atlanta,
Speaker 1: a lot of time. Listen to why consistently not coming
Speaker 1: back home and going back like I'm talking about along.
Speaker 1: Why do you think California has ran Well? I love California.
Speaker 1: I mean I love California too, But why do you
Speaker 1: think it's rand well? Rand, I don't think it's ran Well.
Speaker 1: I love McDonald's too, but that don't mean the actual
Speaker 1: food is good for you. I don't. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's rand Well at. All you like about California is
Speaker 1: in spite of California's management of itself, like McDonald in
Speaker 1: spite of not because of we love McDonald's because it
Speaker 1: reminds us of our childhood. That's why I don't have
Speaker 1: a job now the institution. I'm gonna do what I
Speaker 1: want to do. That's that's not We're not talking about you, sticks.
Speaker 1: But don't tell you why I love California. You don't
Speaker 1: love California because of the ecosystem. You love California because
Speaker 1: it reminds you of everything that you love growing up.
Speaker 1: Straight up, just like we love McDonald's as much as
Speaker 1: none of us going to McDon I love McDonald's and
Speaker 1: I don't eat it. I love it. I am truly
Speaker 1: disappointed when the McDonald's is shut down. So you've never
Speaker 1: been upset a day in your life. I've never seen
Speaker 1: I've never seen a McDonald down. I've seen Carl's Jr.
Speaker 1: And Burger King close. I've seen Jack in the Box
Speaker 1: boring up the windows. I've never seen McDonald Taco under.
Speaker 1: So me and you, Pete, we agree that the issue
Speaker 1: is they run California like McDonald's, and they need to
Speaker 1: switch it and run it like they don't run California
Speaker 1: like McDonald's because McDonald's, for it provides bad customer service,
Speaker 1: but it's run well the biggest real estate company out
Speaker 1: of all the franchim Donald's franchises don't close. McDonald's never stock,
Speaker 1: always returned, and it's a grand California has negative emigration
Speaker 1: right now. California is piping in like the only reason
Speaker 1: that California's population goes up as birthrate people as far
Speaker 1: as moving in and moving out people. More people move
Speaker 1: out of California than move into it. But that don't
Speaker 1: change that the problem. Yes, but that'll change that, don't
Speaker 1: change that. Don't change that California has has a higher
Speaker 1: population than ever before. For what I just said, I'm
Speaker 1: not disagreining. How is that effect if California is like
Speaker 1: the fifth wealthiest like body in the world. Because because
Speaker 1: you have four entities in two counties that pipe in
Speaker 1: money from all across the universe into four addresses, that
Speaker 1: skew all the numbers. That's that's fair, But there's a
Speaker 1: reason not to mention. The other element is that the
Speaker 1: agricultural industry here is geographically unique, has nothing to do
Speaker 1: with California but the central valleys of a monster. So
Speaker 1: there's that that's it just happens to be that that
Speaker 1: dirt and that sun line right there. That's true. So
Speaker 1: that's what makes California great, and deny it. That's McDonald's.
Speaker 1: That's again. That's that's in spite of you know, when
Speaker 1: you drive to the Bay up the five, you see
Speaker 1: nothing but protests about Sacramento politicians lining the freeway. That's McDonald's.
Speaker 1: No one's nobody's complaining about McDonald's. Pick the funk are
Speaker 1: y'all to my everybody's complaining about me. It's a whole customers,
Speaker 1: No there is. It's a whole documentary on Netflix against McDonald's.
Speaker 1: That's not a customer, I'm telling you. The issue is
Speaker 1: they run this motherfucker like McDonald's, and if they changed
Speaker 1: and ranted like fucking Chick fil a, it would be
Speaker 1: a much better state. The customers that they number crunching penny,
Speaker 1: pinch and nickel and dime the funk out of you.
Speaker 1: That is absolutely true. That's McDonald's. It's true in that sense.
Speaker 1: So what is the shake? The Big Mac is Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: and you don't even as a vegan, you don't even know.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. As as a dude from that,
Speaker 1: you don't even take in the culture. You're not a
Speaker 1: gang member. No, you don't know. Ride you on street race.
Speaker 1: You probably barely go to the beach. That's true because
Speaker 1: the people don't really go to the beach. I don't
Speaker 1: like the beach and California stuck, all right, Pete, you
Speaker 1: just you hate McDonald's. I don't know. I don't hate McDonald's.
Speaker 1: The Pacific oceans like sixty one degrees eleven months a year.
Speaker 1: That's sucking cold, even by white standards. It's cold. There's
Speaker 1: nothing cold to white people. You don't see us in
Speaker 1: the water, now, do you? Kids? I do. Last time
Speaker 1: I went to the beach, they were swimming like surfing
Speaker 1: right now? Suits? How do I've always wanted to ask
Speaker 1: this question? I feel like where there's a connection. Well,
Speaker 1: well we're gonna try that connection right now. How do
Speaker 1: white people wear shorts in Milwaukee? Well? Like, for how
Speaker 1: deep an answer do you want to this question? Because
Speaker 1: I wear shorts in Milwaukee. Okay, here's a good I
Speaker 1: was on tour. It was I understand what December white
Speaker 1: people are the ones who are shirtless and buffalo in
Speaker 1: the playoffs. I get it. That's kind of wild. How
Speaker 1: is it, like, have you ever wore shorts and like
Speaker 1: low temperatures. Yeah, the coldest. I had to be like
Speaker 1: not heavily clothing, Like we had like evening practices all
Speaker 1: the time in Oakland and the Hills. So during the
Speaker 1: winter it would be like thirty eight thirty nine, and
Speaker 1: you gotta wear like spikes shorts, T shirt because we're
Speaker 1: getting timed. But are you old if you start to ring?
Speaker 1: If I like, if I get I don't like the cold,
Speaker 1: but I can if I'm exposed to it. It's it
Speaker 1: takes a day or so, and I'm like whatever, But
Speaker 1: I'm small, like bigger people like my cousins, bigger white people.
Speaker 1: They don't give two ships. That's interesting. But somewhat simultaneously,
Speaker 1: if they stand outside in July and you stand outside
Speaker 1: in July, it's gonna be a different result. That's differ result,
Speaker 1: that's different understanding. But yeah, so back to that point,
Speaker 1: sticks like you all into politics and ship like that, right,
Speaker 1: and I don't ever hear like you're a vegan. It
Speaker 1: might be three niggas and Watch that's vegans historically from
Speaker 1: Watch that's vegans, Like there's no vegan. The other two
Speaker 1: are on doctor's orders. Yeah, because they had high blood pressure. Right,
Speaker 1: So I don't never see you get into the whole
Speaker 1: shout out to the defunctor. Jordan's the love of my life.
Speaker 1: I don't never see you get into the food part
Speaker 1: of politics where they control. And I think that would
Speaker 1: be like a calling for you, as a vegan growing
Speaker 1: a farm right now. No no, no, that's a vegan.
Speaker 1: That is a political cause he's in the cost. No,
Speaker 1: but why don't you get more into things that they
Speaker 1: are able to sell in our communities? Like I tried
Speaker 1: to bring a Trader Joe's and the Whole Foods. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that wasn't gonna happen, but it was like, no, no,
Speaker 1: they said. Know what they said. They said people in
Speaker 1: the hood, well cannot afford Trader Joe's and Whole Foods.
Speaker 1: Was the literal statement told to me. You should have
Speaker 1: just sent them to real estate property like dollar houses.
Speaker 1: The closest thing we got to something somewhat conscious as
Speaker 1: a franchise called every Table. Oh yeah, they make fresh
Speaker 1: options like right there on the spot, and they get
Speaker 1: rid of it off their shelves every day, like they
Speaker 1: just if they don't sell at all, they throw it
Speaker 1: away and make it fresh. It's like the closest and
Speaker 1: it's all organic. They got like maybe one or two
Speaker 1: vegan options and that's what man. Imagine the sprouts and
Speaker 1: watts I'm trying. Yeah, they're not ain't enough white foster
Speaker 1: um almost. But I'm saying as far as politics go,
Speaker 1: as far as laws go, that seemed like a place
Speaker 1: you would actually because you have a like, don't get
Speaker 1: me wrong, you have knowledge when it comes to uh
Speaker 1: gentrification and property right, but those are kind of new
Speaker 1: concepts to you, not brand new, like you you're not
Speaker 1: totally ignorant to him, But I know you've been on
Speaker 1: this fool ship for a long time. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: as a Muslim, no, I mean, but initially the teachings
Speaker 1: are very built around health and eaty. You was like
Speaker 1: one of the first niggas I remember early telling me
Speaker 1: to go to whole fool I mean simply wholesome. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember that back in the day. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you remember talk to me about it. I was
Speaker 1: like simply howesome, Yeah, Ninkas said sixties And I'm like,
Speaker 1: for real, mm hmm. So as a as a as
Speaker 1: a person that's so much into dietary things, I really
Speaker 1: think that's something special for you. I don't know why
Speaker 1: you don't funk with that more. I mean, I'm part
Speaker 1: of a farm that we could do farmers markets and
Speaker 1: that's not Yeah, but yeah, yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 1: We started a whole foods right there in the hood.
Speaker 1: Whole fools at that point all day, Um, they're not
Speaker 1: for us anyway. Yeah, it ain't that personal. I just
Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna afford awful. That's it. I got
Speaker 1: a question. Could black people be capitalists? Yeah? Jay Z
Speaker 1: is a capitalist, all the capitalis. But I don't think
Speaker 1: no capitalists are good people. Can a black man be
Speaker 1: a billionaire in America? No? Like liquid, it's impossible for
Speaker 1: black man in America to be a billionaire liquid. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: No one's a liquid a billionaire, no one. You don't
Speaker 1: think anyone, I mean, yeah, that's true of anybody. Everybody
Speaker 1: is welse at that point at all is tied up
Speaker 1: in equity. But no, no, I agree with that. I
Speaker 1: know what you're saying with the question you're asking. No,
Speaker 1: I don't think so, because Robert Smith, it's not a
Speaker 1: really big you know, I believe it's systemic oppression for real.
Speaker 1: I don't believe you could believe in systemic opression. Didn't
Speaker 1: turn around and say it's something that got beans of
Speaker 1: dollars that don't that don't add up. Somebody lying, So
Speaker 1: what is Oprah? Man? Oprah? How much money does she have? Liquid?
Speaker 1: So this is gonna sound a lot worse than I
Speaker 1: wanted to sound. This is this is going to sound
Speaker 1: a lot worse than I wanted to sound. Um, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna say respectfully because I mean it honestly. A
Speaker 1: lot of the brothers that came up, that's that's that's
Speaker 1: the sisters too. They're just running Donald Trump's plays. It's
Speaker 1: all like kind of showing gangs, all fun and gangs.
Speaker 1: It's all show. It ain't really actually true assets. I mean,
Speaker 1: it ain't true billions of dollars. You don't need billions
Speaker 1: of dollars to do good in this country. No, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that it's a confusion that you
Speaker 1: know that you need this ridiculous amount of money. Man,
Speaker 1: if you've got ten million dollars, you on top of
Speaker 1: the world. Liquid or worth I mean, because worth is
Speaker 1: not Worth is not a real thing. When people say worth,
Speaker 1: they're not like that could be life insurance goes into
Speaker 1: that like that might be to somebody else. So I'm
Speaker 1: not talking about that fake ship because so you're talking
Speaker 1: about liquid like it go to like if I this
Speaker 1: is this is impossible. But I go to the bank,
Speaker 1: my account balance say this, I can withdraw that at
Speaker 1: any time I want to. That's impossible. But I'm just saying.
Speaker 1: I'm saying I don't think no, no, no black person
Speaker 1: in America's assets truly toldal up to a billion dollars.
Speaker 1: I don't think that black person cold liquidate all they
Speaker 1: have and have a billion dollars in America, not if
Speaker 1: they're from America. No, I don't believe that. I think
Speaker 1: niggas is lying. I do honey million, Yeah, that's that's
Speaker 1: that's there. But but again, like how do you believe
Speaker 1: in systemic oppression and then think you can get economically
Speaker 1: you know, free, I mean you you can actually obtain
Speaker 1: billions of dollars like somebody's lying. So it's either the
Speaker 1: two can't coexist. Like just like when we talk about slavery, right,
Speaker 1: slavery was not built off racism is built off capitalism.
Speaker 1: Slavery in America created racism as we know it because
Speaker 1: prior to that it would probably be not much of anything,
Speaker 1: because you gotta remember at that point it's black slavers
Speaker 1: feel me is is you know probably the first slaves
Speaker 1: at this point was in Africa, right, so you know
Speaker 1: as the oldest land with the oldest people. You know
Speaker 1: that it probably was initially there, right, So that means
Speaker 1: brother's own brothers. So again, I think capitalism created the
Speaker 1: racism that we know in this country. Without it, we
Speaker 1: don't have that. I mean, we don't have that. Capitalism
Speaker 1: created racism in this country, m because that gave these
Speaker 1: crackers the complex to feel better. Like the reason they
Speaker 1: feel better than black people is because they were better
Speaker 1: than black people. You could actually buy somebody that looked
Speaker 1: like me and you, and you can't buy nobody that will.
Speaker 1: Early on, you could buy somebody look like Pete early on,
Speaker 1: very for a short time, but it was very minimal.
Speaker 1: It was it was a short time. There wasn't much
Speaker 1: of a market for us. Wont you that didn't nobody
Speaker 1: wants you all quickly It's like we just don't make
Speaker 1: them the fireman. Then a shake. You carry buckets, passing
Speaker 1: buckets down. Brotherfucker's could not pick no cotton at all.
Speaker 1: To the blades and fire, right, so feel me? I
Speaker 1: think so, if you truly believe in systemic oppression, you
Speaker 1: can't believe that some niggas is slipping by the cracks.
Speaker 1: I ain't mad at that, you feel me. That's why
Speaker 1: I don't believe in and racism as the center institute
Speaker 1: to oppression in this country. Capitalism and capitalism is the
Speaker 1: center of peace, is the mantle to oppression in this country.
Speaker 1: So if you black and you're a capitalist, you're contributing
Speaker 1: to systemic racism. She in my mind, Charlottagne always tells
Speaker 1: me about compassion compassionate capitalists. Compassionate, you can't compassion and
Speaker 1: be a capitalist. It's an oxy moron. Like, if you're compassionate,
Speaker 1: you're not trying to make a profit because they say
Speaker 1: there's no emotion in business, and is the term and
Speaker 1: business is related to capitalism, right, I mean profited profiting
Speaker 1: off business. So no, I don't believe in compassionate capitalism.
Speaker 1: Do you like that? We don't have enough time for
Speaker 1: my opinion on this particular. Come on this. This is
Speaker 1: basically gonna be my podcast. Like if I get everybody
Speaker 1: shine I mean effectively from a mark standpoint, we're looking
Speaker 1: at a capitalist economy, so it would be like being
Speaker 1: in an aquarium that is a capitalist aquarium. So as
Speaker 1: much as everything negative is as capitalism, so is everything positive, opportunity, innovation,
Speaker 1: and all the rest is also capitalism because it is
Speaker 1: the economy here and it does control the global marketplace.
Speaker 1: So when you're talking about I mean, if you were
Speaker 1: to examine capitalism and it's you know, spread over the
Speaker 1: twentieth century and the reduction of just the last quarter century,
Speaker 1: the reduction and rates a global poverty standards are almost there.
Speaker 1: They are like nothing that's ever been seen, you know,
Speaker 1: in the history of humankind. So for as much of
Speaker 1: it is the result of oppression, yes, it is the
Speaker 1: result of opportunity and uprising in and upward mobility, it
Speaker 1: is also that because it is commerce. If commerce were
Speaker 1: something else, then whatever that would be would be responsible
Speaker 1: for both parties in both directions. So it's the duality
Speaker 1: kind of like there's the yang and the yang. I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously that's it. It's an all consuming elements and that's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So, so it's not a bad or
Speaker 1: a good thing. Capitalism, Well, nothing is a good or
Speaker 1: a bad thing. It's perspective. It depends, I think also
Speaker 1: in compared to what right. You know, we've seen vacuums
Speaker 1: in which there were alternatives and they didn't end real well,
Speaker 1: and they didn't go real well while they were going.
Speaker 1: Mm hm. What about monarchies. That would be one of those.
Speaker 1: But also you can have a monarchy that's got a
Speaker 1: capitalist economy that's almost essentially we're seeing a China right now,
Speaker 1: and you have a dictator who is now no longer
Speaker 1: subject to elections. That's like a monarchy. It might not
Speaker 1: be a lineage monarchy, but a monarchy. And they do
Speaker 1: run on a I mean they have a lower percent
Speaker 1: GDP of public sector currents. You know, public sector economy
Speaker 1: is a lower percentage p in China that is in
Speaker 1: the United States, And we're supposed to be so capitalist
Speaker 1: from compared to them. So it depends. Two aren't always
Speaker 1: the same. That's Cuba, however, is not a capitalist economy.
Speaker 1: And if you don't have it there, you're not gonna
Speaker 1: have it. M yeah, true, yeah, damned if you do.
Speaker 1: Damned if you don't. What what for me? I'm a
Speaker 1: socialist by nature, yes, but I don't push it off
Speaker 1: on other people. That's gonna be challenging, but I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't push it off on other people.
Speaker 1: It's just my shop. Yeah, yeah, it's not even challenging
Speaker 1: for me. Like I just recognized that I'm me and
Speaker 1: everybody else do their own ship. That's mean in the
Speaker 1: sense for socialism to work, it requires like uniform by Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think it's a it's a
Speaker 1: it's a obtainable model. It's just who I am naturally,
Speaker 1: so trualism. I'm a socialist by nature, which is weird,
Speaker 1: right because most people wouldn't believe that they would think that.
Speaker 1: But I'm also very much like mindful of everybody else
Speaker 1: around me enough to be like, okay, well, that's gonna
Speaker 1: be hard to convince jay Z to be a socialist.
Speaker 1: It's tough out, so I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: say things like okay, you know, probably I wouldn't waste
Speaker 1: my time so sticks as a vegan because you're fucking vegan,
Speaker 1: which is fucking weird. It's great, beautiful life. Why is
Speaker 1: it beautiful? I feel great? So you're seeing people who
Speaker 1: eat meat don't feel great sometimes for the most part.
Speaker 1: Do you worry about the process of vegan food now,
Speaker 1: how they're processing it to make it taste like everything else? Well,
Speaker 1: I've changed that part of my day. What are you
Speaker 1: doing now? Way more vegetables, vegetables, um or you know,
Speaker 1: the whole honestly, think the whole organic. That is a game.
Speaker 1: You try to get as close as you can more
Speaker 1: often the nurses. So when you out in the streets
Speaker 1: because and you just need to get something, maybe you'll
Speaker 1: be stuck with an impossible burg. I'm stuck with it.
Speaker 1: I don't have no choice, and I gotta eat. It's
Speaker 1: worse to not eat than the eat the ship. Yea,
Speaker 1: there's no concerns about the absence of like essential amino
Speaker 1: acids or various stuff like that from plant based protein, vitamins,
Speaker 1: herbs all that they don't have that they definitely what
Speaker 1: about the long term cognitive impact of long chain fatty
Speaker 1: acids that the brain is, you know, comprised that you
Speaker 1: don't get from vegetables that your body can't sit the size.
Speaker 1: I'm willing to take the risk, Okay, I like people
Speaker 1: who do their thing and wanted the risk. That's fine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm well aware but I'm willing to deal with that
Speaker 1: risk potentially than the risk of the things that play
Speaker 1: primarily the Black community, like diabetes, high cholesterol, cancer, what
Speaker 1: is primarily calls from the food m Well, you know
Speaker 1: what I don't. I don't. I think cancer is probably
Speaker 1: all processed foods. I agree with you. The other one,
Speaker 1: the diabetes and other stuff. I mean, you know it's carcinogens, right,
Speaker 1: And that's a whole another conversation that takes a whole
Speaker 1: another thirty minutes to kind of break down. But so
Speaker 1: I think that I think cancer agents are in all
Speaker 1: processed foods. And I think because all vegan foods of
Speaker 1: process and all pretty much often. So are you saying,
Speaker 1: because this is not what you said, But help me understand,
Speaker 1: is that process vegan food and regular non vegan food
Speaker 1: is the same. Any process food is sucked up. Are
Speaker 1: you saying that it's equally the same. That is completely wrong.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you think so. No, I know, just keep
Speaker 1: watching that studies, watch that the studies come. I don't
Speaker 1: tell you when this vegan food ain't oh it ain't.
Speaker 1: Oh this meat, Nick's gonna eat meat since Jesus in
Speaker 1: them time for that. So answer me this. We believe
Speaker 1: in opposites, right, like yang yang plus minus, like it's
Speaker 1: the gnome. We don't even have to think about it.
Speaker 1: Why is that excluded when it comes to eating? Why
Speaker 1: is flesh eating flesh? Isn't that disrupting the cycle of
Speaker 1: yang and yang? What? What is this some sort of
Speaker 1: energy talk with water crystals? And it's like, no, it's
Speaker 1: literally straight to the point you burn the stage. No,
Speaker 1: I'm being straightsed. So if there's up, down, left, right,
Speaker 1: right on off, sure it's side plus and minus particles
Speaker 1: make adams, adams make our existence does nothing. We're flesh,
Speaker 1: but we're flesh and we eat flesh like lions I mean,
Speaker 1: or tigers whatever, or sharks. Isn't that not disrupting? No?
Speaker 1: But how how it's we are made to eat plants?
Speaker 1: Why do you say that? And when I say plants,
Speaker 1: it's a it's um, it's just for lack of a
Speaker 1: better term, should I get it? But I don't know
Speaker 1: why you say that, because it's the opposite of what
Speaker 1: we are. But what about sharks? That's why the motherfucker's
Speaker 1: lifespan is only so long, and they got sharks that
Speaker 1: live longer than human beings they eat. Maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: I like to be proven wrong. I'm gonna tell if
Speaker 1: I'm fucking ridiculous, intell me. I always like to be told.
Speaker 1: Sound ridiculous. It's the opposite thing. It doesn't hold any
Speaker 1: water with me. Just why not because because it's a program. No,
Speaker 1: it's because it's as true as it isn't true because
Speaker 1: like attracts like. I mean you can look at look
Speaker 1: at the pathways of water. Okay, if you put water
Speaker 1: and a drop goes down this side, put another one
Speaker 1: is going to go down the same side. There's a
Speaker 1: there's a lot of principles of physics and camerastry that
Speaker 1: would refute the opposite thing as well. I mean, if
Speaker 1: you look at look at gravity, look at you know,
Speaker 1: the structure of the Solar system, whatnot. Mass attracts mass,
Speaker 1: and it attracts like mass. But mass is made up
Speaker 1: of what How far down are we diving here? I
Speaker 1: mean how far can we go? I mean as far
Speaker 1: as you If you're if you're talking about a singular
Speaker 1: ionic charge to an atom, then that's true. If you're
Speaker 1: talking about neutrally charged atoms and clusters and what I'm
Speaker 1: saying is true. But but back to the point. So
Speaker 1: greenleys sharks lift three to five d years and yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I had him as a pet for like twenty five
Speaker 1: years and I just didn't see it ending. So that's
Speaker 1: true green sharks. So so, but are there years counting
Speaker 1: like dogs? Like? No, I mean it's like every seven
Speaker 1: years is a year. It's like, how do we know
Speaker 1: that carbon titiue dating? All right, I'm just saying you
Speaker 1: don't think listen, I'm with you. I am with you.
Speaker 1: I'm totally with you. I'm just saying right that I'm
Speaker 1: not against your your vegan this way, right, I'm just
Speaker 1: saying that seemed like something you should get more into.
Speaker 1: So let's talk about this, alright, whether I believe this
Speaker 1: to be true or not. I didn't even bring this up.
Speaker 1: I'm sticking to my scientific theory of opposite and you know,
Speaker 1: minus sharks, and it says here, let's talk about this
Speaker 1: one common fallacy that humans are by nature not meat eaters.
Speaker 1: It is claimed that we do not have the jaw
Speaker 1: and teeth structure of carnivores. It is true that humans
Speaker 1: are not designed to eat raw meat, but that is
Speaker 1: because our jaws haven't evolved to eat cooked meat, have
Speaker 1: evolved to eat cooked meat, which is considerably softer and
Speaker 1: much easier to chew. Yeah, you know what the main
Speaker 1: difference was between the apes that divested into human beings
Speaker 1: and those that didn't the long chain fatty acid. So wait,
Speaker 1: this is a whole another conversation. Ship. You believe that
Speaker 1: there are some humans who came from if you believe
Speaker 1: in evolution and we're talking science, which seems to be Oh,
Speaker 1: the science seems to accept evolution. I don't believe that.
Speaker 1: I don't believe in that, and I don't believe in
Speaker 1: dinosaurs either. Crazy. Where are they? What the funk you mean?
Speaker 1: Where is short neck drafts? Where are dinosaurs? Where are
Speaker 1: short next draft? There were probably animals with potentially large
Speaker 1: features where we're short? Where the teractors? Where the where
Speaker 1: is the philosophraptors? Where is the short Where is the
Speaker 1: short neck draft? Where is the short? Tell me? If
Speaker 1: here's my thing? This is what I can't understand. It
Speaker 1: does not make sense to me. This is me So
Speaker 1: even though you can, we're here since the fall of
Speaker 1: man fish different things like that dinosaurs came after that,
Speaker 1: but they died first but the insects and the fish
Speaker 1: didn't and they're still here. How what's the explanations, Like,
Speaker 1: why aren't the insects and the fish and everything gone
Speaker 1: just like the dinosaurs. They went through the same periods
Speaker 1: of time that they the same reason when this ship
Speaker 1: happened to us, and we won't be here and the
Speaker 1: insects and the fish still be here. They're not They're
Speaker 1: not all fish. They're not the same fish, and we
Speaker 1: haven't seen fish. I don't disagree with evolution in reference
Speaker 1: to certain things. Oh the things you like, No, has
Speaker 1: nothing to do with what I like. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't like sharks. I mean I don't like drafts, but
Speaker 1: I don't dislike them. Has not to do it. Like,
Speaker 1: so you're saying, because you don't see evidence of twenty
Speaker 1: dinosaurs that they didn't exist. Something as prominent as a
Speaker 1: dinosaur in history should still be here if it was real.
Speaker 1: What about the fact you can't see the curvature of
Speaker 1: the Earth. Do you believe the Earth is flat? No,
Speaker 1: you can't see it. But I think it's round, but
Speaker 1: you can't see it. The only reason you could believe
Speaker 1: that is because science proved that it's different. So Why
Speaker 1: do you pick that to believe in science but not
Speaker 1: dino because it's very simple. This is very simple for birds, birds, insects,
Speaker 1: things that swim, fish, people, trees, water. Obviously we're just
Speaker 1: talking about life on So let me rewind back because
Speaker 1: it was gonna get day. Fish, insects were here before dinosaurs.
Speaker 1: Dinosaurs came after the fact. The same birds and insects
Speaker 1: that we're here are still here. That's not true. So
Speaker 1: just you know that's not true. There's also a significant
Speaker 1: mobility difference between fish and birds and like landborn reptiles
Speaker 1: and mammals, and that's not true. You said the same
Speaker 1: birds are not here. So let me ask this question.
Speaker 1: Lions tigers, So you don't believe in saber tooth like
Speaker 1: tigers story, so you don't believe tigers had long things?
Speaker 1: Come on, man, saber tooth tiger for real? Come on, man, tigers?
Speaker 1: Do you believe in the in the mammoth, the Willie mammoth?
Speaker 1: That that that that's the ellisphant offset I mean offspring.
Speaker 1: So y'all telling me that that was like the what dinosaur?
Speaker 1: Is that the willie mammoth? No, that's not the dinosaur.
Speaker 1: But what is that what does that evolved? What does
Speaker 1: that evolved from? Because that's not that's actually coming down.
Speaker 1: It's not like how did animals get smaller? Like why
Speaker 1: wouldn't it doesn't evolution mean not always, not always name
Speaker 1: one thing that did not evolve this way is not
Speaker 1: necessarily a direction because wait, let's think about it. If
Speaker 1: we were apes, we went from apes two people, Sure, right,
Speaker 1: we went. We go from technology. Technology starts here. We
Speaker 1: went from eight Let's take games, we go from eight
Speaker 1: bit to fucking where are we now with games? Right?
Speaker 1: Every time we talk about evolution, that means it starts
Speaker 1: in one place and it grows. When we talk about dinosaurs,
Speaker 1: we go from the video games have got speak video
Speaker 1: games have gotten smaller. What do you mean? They've gotten smaller?
Speaker 1: Sail phones have gotten smaller, video games have gotten smaller,
Speaker 1: cars have gotten smaller. Tons of things evolve and they
Speaker 1: got smaller. Typically of the things that survived become more efficient,
Speaker 1: Efficient can be larger efficient. That's what we're talking about efficiency.
Speaker 1: Where the terra doctors we're efficiency. Maybe it wasn't necessarily
Speaker 1: so who made that decision? The same same universe that
Speaker 1: makes the same decisions. So the universe woke up one
Speaker 1: day and was like, dinosaurs are waste. Watch it's gonna
Speaker 1: happen to us next people are away. So there will
Speaker 1: be a time where people do not exist. There's right now,
Speaker 1: right right now, yes or no focus right. They'll evolve
Speaker 1: and they can evolve into something else. They can be people,
Speaker 1: but they may not be the people the way we
Speaker 1: see it, just like dinosaurs. Solution you believe in monkeys
Speaker 1: to man. I believe men were men the first day,
Speaker 1: That's what I believe. But but but but for different reasons, right,
Speaker 1: different reasons than than you impe That's not to say
Speaker 1: I don't believe some apes right have not crossed with
Speaker 1: mankind and created these kind of mankind, like some some
Speaker 1: apes have crossed with some man and created a man
Speaker 1: kind that could resemble No, no, no, it's just that
Speaker 1: it's more of a mix based off Pearlman or whatever
Speaker 1: from thetycle. Yeah, some of these people, some of these people,
Speaker 1: somebody was sucking with some of these apes. That's that's
Speaker 1: what I believe. But that's not the point. The point
Speaker 1: I'm saying is you can believe that dinosaurs just like
Speaker 1: you believe the Earth is flat, just like you believe
Speaker 1: in oxyden, No, just like you believe the Earth is round.
Speaker 1: That signs proved that, just like you believe in oxygen. Okay,
Speaker 1: because science told you that. Wait, so oxygen isn't real.
Speaker 1: I'm saying you don't know that it is, just like
Speaker 1: how you say with the dinosaurs, you don't know why
Speaker 1: they called that. Where is it that? Where's oxygen? We're
Speaker 1: a dinosaurs. Where's oxygen? Well fucking none of this ship
Speaker 1: is real except we're right here. Only things I'm having
Speaker 1: tomorrow for lunch is real? Real? Is it? Is? It?
Speaker 1: Is it? Ter doty might be big dollars. So what
Speaker 1: I'm saying is there's no such thing as dinosaurs never existed.
Speaker 1: It's a lie. So they just made all the bones everything,
Speaker 1: and why because that's what because people are gonna pay
Speaker 1: tickets to see bones of dogs exactly, capitalism. It's America.
Speaker 1: So somebody has a pattern of dinosaurs. Somebody has it,
Speaker 1: so the way you can steep spill, so the way
Speaker 1: you could prove it. Does somebody have patents on dinosaurs?
Speaker 1: That should be the name of this episode. No, the
Speaker 1: name of this motherfucker's ship is uh. Conversations with a
Speaker 1: vegan conversations with a black vegan, Actually, motherfucker's crazy. So,
Speaker 1: so for what you're saying to be true, somebody needs
Speaker 1: patents to dinosaurs. So does somebody have a patent on
Speaker 1: dinosaurs more likely to exist and be identified by science
Speaker 1: dinosaur or black vegan