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Speaker 1: Welcome to patri Get's Unfiltered. What if Shapiro's It's a deli?

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Speaker 1: Have you? Have you been there that? Yeah? Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: of course we had to sit next to some old

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Speaker 1: lady coughing up along the whole time next to us

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Speaker 1: the whole meal. We were all bummed out. I don't

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Speaker 1: know how Covid didn't get her. Brady screwed it up

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Speaker 1: by keep staying good, winning tables. Yeah, you know, like

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Speaker 1: getting care for it. You know, got that kind of

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Speaker 1: positioning where if you if you go too high, it

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Speaker 1: stops Den in its track. And he was just like

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Speaker 1: and just pushed it. No problem. Then you see the

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Speaker 1: other guys kind of sound effect. I was twenty years

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Speaker 1: in a row doing that thing. There's a plaque on

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Speaker 1: the webber grill, no doubt what I'm saying that, Like

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Speaker 1: little Paul Parola wearing Patriot forty pajamas, fanboy is really

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Speaker 1: upset with that potential Matt Jonal's trade to the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: If the Raiders are willing to offer the number seven pick. Nope,

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Speaker 1: this is Patriots Unfiltered fueled by Duncan. All right, welcome

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Speaker 1: into Patriots Unfiltered. Is deuced in the host chair today.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately Fred got boss man things to do. So it's

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Speaker 1: it's just the three guys. It's just three of us today.

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Speaker 1: Is he even in playing hookey? I think he's working.

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Speaker 1: I think he's definitely working. I saw him he was

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Speaker 1: doing stuff. But yeah, just us. The girls are off.

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Speaker 1: We gotta shout out Emma Green last day here, so

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Speaker 1: they're taking her out to launch, so so it'll just

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Speaker 1: be us here. You will be missed, comes, you will

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Speaker 1: be missed. Yeah. She wanted we're gonna play some Sarah

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Speaker 1: McLaughlin music for but we couldn't get the rights to

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Speaker 1: it in time. So um evans well remember yeah, all right,

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Speaker 1: there we go. Ah, so plenty on the docket today

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Speaker 1: because we got free agency. Come him up. Of course,

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Speaker 1: the huge resigning news this morning for the Patriots, which

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Speaker 1: which we'll jump into. Should we get into the big

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Speaker 1: Jets trade, we get Jets trade, uh, Jets release and

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Speaker 1: a Jets trade sounds like they're putting their ducks in

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Speaker 1: a row. Yeah, I'm annoyed. About Adam Schefter, just what

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Speaker 1: was how many times is he gonna do that? Not

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Speaker 1: the trade he thought it was like he did the

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Speaker 1: same thing during the season about something I forget now,

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Speaker 1: but that's his little trademarks. Stick doesn't work, Yeah, doesn't work.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't Anyway, The Jets made a trade for like Chuck Clark,

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Speaker 1: which is I think a good, good, good trade for them.

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Speaker 1: Tough guy. They had some depth at safety, so there

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Speaker 1: give up a seventh round pick for him something like

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Speaker 1: that for a guy who can start. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: and let the the Braxton Barrios hype train begins. It's

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Speaker 1: gotta be tough on the train you take them. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I just think if you're gonna if Jacoby

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's the answer, but it's just adding

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Speaker 1: another guy that can come in and compete for some

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Speaker 1: rather have Braxon Barrios than Slay both. Yeah, that's true,

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Speaker 1: but we can run. Yeah, we were diving a little

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Speaker 1: bit into into Barrios Um and Paul I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: sure you don't remember. I don't know how he looked

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Speaker 1: him what eighteen and then I'm nineteen was the second

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Speaker 1: I guess would would Gunnar? He had some and Gunner

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Speaker 1: He's banged up in that first year. I mean that

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Speaker 1: Miami kid. Who's that Miami kid's name? Oh the uh? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Fred loved him? What was Jeff Thomas? Yes? Oh god, yes,

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Speaker 1: that hype train too. He kept calling him like Jeff

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Speaker 1: something else, the entire Patriots Twitter, Jeff Antonio Brown, Thomas, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I don't think it's necessarily gone swimmingly in that

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Speaker 1: not assigning it to anybody because I'm gonna be honest.

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Speaker 1: I've talked to you guys about this. I have random

426
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Speaker 1: people that pop up on my timeline all the time

427
00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,600
Speaker 1: who I don't know who they are, So my guesses

428
00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,679
Speaker 1: they get there because other people who I do follow

429
00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:00,600
Speaker 1: like it or retweet it or something like algorith Right,

430
00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,920
Speaker 1: So that's the way it works. And I saw three

431
00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,800
Speaker 1: or four different things. Huh, it's all coming apart. Oh,

432
00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:10,120
Speaker 1: they lost their defensive coordinate. And I'm thinking to myself,

433
00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,440
Speaker 1: for the last five years, all I've heard is Buffalo

434
00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:16,200
Speaker 1: is choking dogs and their defense sucks. They can't stop

435
00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,720
Speaker 1: the run, they can't come up big in a big spot,

436
00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,359
Speaker 1: they can't win a big game in the playoffs. But

437
00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,080
Speaker 1: now two of their players on defense are available in

438
00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:27,920
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinators out and this is the time for

439
00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,240
Speaker 1: the Patriots the bounce, like you can't have it both ways.

440
00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,959
Speaker 1: They don't suck, and then you want the players, Like

441
00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,200
Speaker 1: one of those things has to be wrong, right, I mean,

442
00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:38,679
Speaker 1: I would say I want there now. I would take

443
00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:40,840
Speaker 1: Tremen Emmons as a player. I don't think he sucks.

444
00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,120
Speaker 1: Let maybe on record to say that I think he's

445
00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,040
Speaker 1: a good player, and putting my Patriots fan on I'm like, oh,

446
00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:47,920
Speaker 1: thank god, this is kind of like breaking up because

447
00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:49,520
Speaker 1: we haven't been able to solve this defense. I mean

448
00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,480
Speaker 1: the right, but you didn't spend the last five years

449
00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,480
Speaker 1: telling me how much they sucked, which is what a

450
00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,960
Speaker 1: lot of Patriots fans do. I will say this about

451
00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,439
Speaker 1: Buffalo though there and I'm not going salary cap, but

452
00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 1: like they have to churn out some of these guys, right,

453
00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,040
Speaker 1: and they have to replenish some of it. And now

454
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,280
Speaker 1: I think you do learn if you're Buffalo. How hard

455
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,240
Speaker 1: sustainability is not just and I know they haven't even

456
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,720
Speaker 1: want anything yet, but just in terms of always being

457
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,720
Speaker 1: a contender and always being at the I think John

458
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 1: I will say the same thing that I'll say I

459
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,439
Speaker 1: said about the Patriots. As long as Brady's healthy, the

460
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,280
Speaker 1: Patriots will always be relevant. As long as Alan is healthy,

461
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,159
Speaker 1: the Bills will always be right. I'm right now. I'm

462
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,439
Speaker 1: not telling you they're gonna win the super Bowl. Like

463
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,399
Speaker 1: Brady made you win the super Bowl six times, that's

464
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:34,439
Speaker 1: like incredible, But when he wasn't healthy, you didn't make

465
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Those margin desert those margins though, sometimes in

466
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,359
Speaker 1: the playoffs, when they're going up against Kansas City or

467
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 1: they're going up against Cincinnati, losing guys like Tremaine Edmunds

468
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,359
Speaker 1: and then not being able to draft a viable replacement

469
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,719
Speaker 1: for Tremaine Edmonds, that those are the things that can

470
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,280
Speaker 1: kind of sneak up on you in a playoffs. And

471
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Speaker 1: I'll give you another exam. They thought they made a

472
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,680
Speaker 1: couple of those individual moves that were going to help

473
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Speaker 1: them get over the hump. Right, They signed a guy

474
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 1: like Jay kras who not Jay Crowder, Jamison Jamison Crowder

475
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 1: basketball player. Ye, Jamison Crowder, you know, to to sort

476
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 1: of fill, you know, a very specific role Von Miller,

477
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 1: to fill a very specific They didn't have those guys

478
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 1: right when accounted. When the playoffs came, they were both

479
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:20,719
Speaker 1: injured and out and any kind of impact that they

480
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 1: were going to make to get them over the hump.

481
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Speaker 1: That that's how hard it is, like to Evans point

482
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Speaker 1: on the margins, like, I agree, I don't. I'm not

483
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Speaker 1: a salary cap guy, as everybody knows. But that doesn't

484
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 1: mean you can just keep resigning every player. At some

485
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 1: point you run out of money. Yeah, not cap space money.

486
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Speaker 1: And if it's going to cost you twenty million dollars

487
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:45,880
Speaker 1: per year in money to sign a guy, that's gonna

488
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 1: be hard to do. Like not these owners don't all

489
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,959
Speaker 1: just have bottomless pockets. Yeah, And that was and Brandon

490
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,919
Speaker 1: Bean spoke at the combine and I just acknowledged everything

491
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Speaker 1: that we're saying. He's like, look, we understand we're going

492
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Speaker 1: to be a little bit up against it the next

493
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Speaker 1: couple of years, and you know we're taking measures to

494
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 1: to do it. It's I mean, but I think you're right.

495
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,199
Speaker 1: It's about Allen, and it's about you know, evolving and

496
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 1: finding those pieces. I mean, we know the Patriots went

497
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 1: ten years in between Super Bowls trying to like turn

498
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 1: things over and find new pieces. Even with Tom Brady.

499
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 1: I mean, they were certainly right there, but it's a

500
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 1: big difference, like to your point, Evan, of like being

501
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 1: there but actually getting to the top of the people

502
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 1: forget because they was so good like that ten years

503
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 1: that they went without a Super Bowl. They were in

504
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,360
Speaker 1: contention every year except for the year that Brady was hurt, right,

505
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 1: So they were right there every year. But it was like,

506
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 1: you know, the O seven team, Like comparing the O

507
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 1: seven team and the O six team is like apples

508
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,119
Speaker 1: and oranges. Both of them. Both of them won a

509
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 1: lot of games, both of them were very good, and

510
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 1: both of them went deep into the playoffs. But the

511
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,959
Speaker 1: O seven team would have squashed the O six team, right,

512
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 1: you know, in terms of talent, And that's what like

513
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 1: Buffalo's team probably last year would have squashed the team

514
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,679
Speaker 1: this year. They weren't as good, like it just the

515
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,160
Speaker 1: way it worked out, they weren't. They weren't quite as talented,

516
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 1: and that happens. But they were both very good. Yeah,

517
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 1: and I think again, there's not aus that quarterback is healthy.

518
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 1: They're going to be relevant. I also think it's crazy

519
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 1: with Buffalo that you see so many of their guys

520
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,439
Speaker 1: talking about receivers at the top of the draft to

521
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 1: get that one beat is to fond Diggs. And I'm

522
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:17,199
Speaker 1: just thinking, yeah, absolutely, And I'm just thinking to myself,

523
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 1: can we just get us to find Diggs? Like you guys,

524
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 1: you guys, yeah, you guys want you guys want to like,

525
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 1: come on, you know, they all so many the great

526
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,160
Speaker 1: guys that cover one some of the other guys have

527
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 1: to cover the bills. I actually really like those guys

528
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,640
Speaker 1: and Uh as much as we like to rip each

529
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 1: other about about the Patriots and the Bills, but they're

530
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 1: all mocking, you know, Zay Flowers, Josh Downs now Addison

531
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 1: might Fall and they're all when you say mocking, you're

532
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 1: saying mocking to the Bills. You're not mad at no.

533
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 1: And I'm just thinking to my you want you want more,

534
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: like you want more help for the course like this

535
00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,200
Speaker 1: is just but yeah, that's that's the mindset nowadays. As

536
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:06,120
Speaker 1: they show Naim Hines returning the kickoffer touchdown, guess what

537
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 1: was the number one playoff? Well, they have Micah Hyde

538
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: is Bills and my boy Kyle Brandt. He somehow has

539
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 1: like become Bills fan, like one bet, I don't get

540
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 1: why he's all over them. I gotta I have to

541
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 1: shoot him the text and be like can you please

542
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 1: please stop? Can you? Yeah? And the other part of

543
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,120
Speaker 1: the division that we really we kind of alluded to

544
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 1: it with Schefter being a smartass today um with a

545
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,679
Speaker 1: trade for the Jets coming up. Well, I mean it

546
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 1: seems like based on the reporting that that meeting went

547
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 1: reasonably well with Aaron Rodgers and the Jets brass and

548
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: as Evan put it, yesterday or tuesday, you know, playing

549
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 1: footsie with Woody Johnson. I think you said the table

550
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 1: under the table in the dark room. I think Diana

551
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 1: was seen today for ESPN had a series of tweets

552
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 1: indicating that it seems like it's progressing and going. It

553
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: look looks like it's going to happen. Now, if it

554
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 1: was Schefter, I would say, oh, I do not have

555
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 1: the same faith in the reporting for others at ESPN

556
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 1: that I do with Schefter, So I'll believe it when

557
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 1: I see it, but that this is I mean this

558
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,360
Speaker 1: this could be a significant problem. And I'm not even

559
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,439
Speaker 1: talking about Brady in Miami. I'm just saying, if if

560
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 1: it's TWA in Miami, you haven't beaten him in four tries.

561
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: You haven't beaten the Bills consistently when it's not a

562
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 1: gale force wind. And now if you're gonna put Aaron

563
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 1: Rodgers with the Jets two games that last year with

564
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 1: tractor pulls, with the worst quarterback on the other team

565
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:37,120
Speaker 1: that you could possibly imagine you, I mean, you're projected

566
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: as the last place team in the division. And with

567
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 1: Chuck Clark, which I mean they just traded for him

568
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 1: as well, Like you know, I mean not that he's

569
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 1: gonna but they're they're making moves. And I just I

570
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 1: would pose the question that I hinted at last Tuesday

571
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 1: when this when this Aaron Rodgers stuff first came, is

572
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: you know, if you're if you're Robert Kraft and you're

573
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 1: watching the Jets make this kind of move, do you

574
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 1: feel like I and I you know, this is when

575
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: we get into like the drama of like do you

576
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: feel like the Patriots need to respond? And I hate

577
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: like winning free agency and all that kind of stuff,

578
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: but in some ways, and like this might be a

579
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,679
Speaker 1: little bit off track, but just watching this kickoff return,

580
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: like I always felt during the Patriots dynasty, there was

581
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 1: like these special moments that would happen, like you know,

582
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,719
Speaker 1: Doug Flutie's drought kick, you know, like these little like

583
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 1: historical weird things out that's one that comes to mind. Sorry,

584
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 1: but but the meaning was playing a game they were

585
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 1: trying to lose, but little historical things win streaks, you know,

586
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 1: like twenty games, but but just like little but little

587
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: historical but there's what happened within the game that you'd

588
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,919
Speaker 1: be like, oh my god, like they just broke another

589
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,199
Speaker 1: record like this. Yeah, and I brought up the Flutey

590
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,439
Speaker 1: one just because it wasn't like a historical thing, but

591
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: it was just like, oh that's kind of a cool

592
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: historical moment, and it's just the beat goes on for

593
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: the Patriots right now. That kickoff return felt like the

594
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 1: completely flipped and now the special magical moment is kind

595
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 1: of happening for the other team and we're just kind

596
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 1: of the road kill that gets you want to continue

597
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: with that, like you know and talk about like special

598
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: moments period. It's like the Miami miracle, the lateral with

599
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,199
Speaker 1: the Raiders, the two kickoff returns, like they're starting to

600
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: pile up against you. Yes, yes, and you used to

601
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,199
Speaker 1: be the team that blocked the punt, not got the

602
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: punts blocked like the little bit of magic. I mean,

603
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 1: you're just like, you can't tell me that Buffalo returning

604
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 1: the kick after everything that DeMar happened with Damar Hamlin,

605
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: all the questions of are they gonna play this game?

606
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just one of that that's one of

607
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 1: the most craziest moments in NFL history right there, based

608
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: on everything that had happened and the great points though, Paul,

609
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:36,919
Speaker 1: I mean, you're right, it's just and it's and I

610
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: don't want to tie it back to Aaron Rodgers a

611
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: little bit of just you know, it's like again like

612
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: other teams are starting to, you know, do these things.

613
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: And I hate again, I hate saying you just got

614
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: to make a move, to make a move for the

615
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: fan base. But at the same time, we're gonna feel

616
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: for every Patriots fans if the Jets sign Aaron Rodgers

617
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: and everybody who thinks exactly what you just laid out

618
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: that what what are we gonna do you know, are

619
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: we gonna are we gonna do? Like, are we gonna

620
00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: wait till day two or three? And we're gonna fill

621
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: in some holes and you know, we're gonna go to

622
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: the draft, and you know, like I don't know, it's

623
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: it's it's a little bit it's a little bit daunting

624
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 1: right now as we get ready for free agency and

625
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: I'm just hoping that there's you know, and and you know,

626
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: a trade for DeAndre Hopkins something like that that moves

627
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: my needle, that says, all right, you know, we're in it.

628
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: We see what these other teams are doing, and we

629
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: understand that, you know, just slow and steady isn't going

630
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: to win the race anymore. We need to be bold.

631
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: We need to make some moves so that we can

632
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: get this thing back on track like asap and not

633
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: you know, sit around and wait for Aaron Rodgers to

634
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: retire now, or to wait to get hurt, or you know,

635
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: Josh Allen to finally get hurt or you know, all

636
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: those things will happen. But I think, not to sound corny,

637
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: but I don't think the Patriots believe like they used

638
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: to anymore because of the quarterback, like when you had

639
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: Brady at twenty eight to three is like the quintessential

640
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: example of it. Like, when you had Brady, you always

641
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: knew there was a chance, like no matter what the

642
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: score was, no matter where you were playing, no matter

643
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: who was the quarterback on the other sideline. And I

644
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: think that that's infectious throughout the entire team to the

645
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: point where those comebacks happen, those moments happen because it's

646
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: not just Brady that is putting it on his back,

647
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: but the defense all of a sudden believes a little

648
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: bit more. In the offense believes a little bit more,

649
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 1: and Malcolm Butler believes a little bit more, or whatever

650
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,959
Speaker 1: the case may be. And I just I feel like

651
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: right now at the Patriots, they need that move more so,

652
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: and everybody's going to point to the quarterback and we

653
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: can we can go to your Lamar Jackson rant whenever

654
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: you want, Mike, I know, I wanted to see him

655
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: up too yet and the only reason and you guys know,

656
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: like there's a lot of complicated elements to Lamar Jackson, Okay,

657
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 1: not the least of witches. That is, he's franchised and

658
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: it cause you to once, Okay, so I understand all

659
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: the things. But what I don't understand is how many people.

660
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: And this might be teeming Mike up to offer the

661
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: rebuttal on on behalf of the other people. I heard

662
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: this morning as I was driving in on Evan Show,

663
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call it Evan Show, what is it? What

664
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: is it? Because he appears on Toucher and oh all right,

665
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: he's got his own cup, right, so on on on

666
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: Evan's show, I'm listening to I think it's Ryan Johnston

667
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: filling in for Johnny ballgame, um John Wallack, and they're

668
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: going back and forth. They're talking without the arms race,

669
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: and if it's like, you know, God forbid, if Brady

670
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: comes out of retirement place for Miami, blah blah blah,

671
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? And then you know, somebody suggested, well,

672
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: you know, do you take another look at Lamar Jackson?

673
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: And Ryan Johnson's like, that's exactly what you shouldn't do,

674
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: Like you can't do stupid things like that. Again, I

675
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: completely understand how hard it would be to acquire Lamar Jackson.

676
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: I don't completely understand why it would be dismissed as

677
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: completely out of hand for a guy who's won as

678
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: much as Lamar Jackson is. Now this comes into movie.

679
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: He's got his rebuttal and that's and that's great. This

680
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: is why I think this is, you know, good for

681
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: us to talk o. But I just don't understand why

682
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: it would be stupid for the Patriots to think about

683
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: acquiring an established, high level quarterback who's available. Well, I'm

684
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: gonna Rashad Taut because he emailed in and uh and

685
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: I think he says some of the same points you do,

686
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: but I think he wrote it pretty well. As I

687
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: type this, it still amazes me that no one would

688
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: want a young former MVPQB who would bring you a

689
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: generation of young new fans, someone who wasn't surrounded by

690
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: good skill positions. And Greg Roman also didn't help. I

691
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: say all that to say, if I'm the Patriots, I'm

692
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: paying Lamar that money because it's gonna be seventy million

693
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: a year pretty soon. Trade the two first that wouldn't

694
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: even mean anything compared to Lamar, and trade Mac for

695
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: a top sixty pick. I'm hoping this doesn't get skipped

696
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: over today. Well it didn't, Rashad, We're going to use it.

697
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: He's a huge fan of Lamar and uh, go ahead.

698
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: I'll let you go first. I'm gonna listen as I

699
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: get another PEPSI because I'm going to enjoy this. I'm

700
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: gonna get up on the muting and and look. I First,

701
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 1: I will say I think he is phenomenally talented. I

702
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: just don't understand why he is the Golden Goose. That

703
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: if you don't love Lamar and want Lamar more than

704
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: anything in the world, that you're an idiot. I just like,

705
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: let's point out the guy's never started sixteen games in

706
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: a season, He's one in three in the playoffs, he's

707
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: lost the teams that went nowhere. I mean it's you know,

708
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: like I'm all for like awesome talent, and that's great,

709
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: But if I'm investing in a quarterback, I want to

710
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: feel like everywhere every year, I'm gonna be in it.

711
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a chance. Tom Brady, how many seasons

712
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: he played here, he got hurt one year. So if

713
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: I'm going to invest in a guy, I'm a little

714
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: bit I'm just saying there's a little bit of trepidation

715
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: on my part in terms of injury history, in terms

716
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: of what do I have to do for my offense

717
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: and I look at his playoff performance, and apparently against

718
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: these good defenses, it's not quite as great. Our completion

719
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: percentage drops from sixty three to fifty five. He's got

720
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: three touchdowns five interceptions in the playoffs. The two games

721
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: he ran for over one hundred and thirty hundred and

722
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: forty yards didn't matter. They were one and one. In

723
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: those games, he got sacked nineteen times in those four games.

724
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: Those are the twenty seventeen the Los Angeles Chargers, the

725
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: twenty or sorry twenty eighteen Chargers, the twenty nineteen Titans,

726
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty Titans, and last year the Buffalo Bills.

727
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: So I look, I get it. He's amazing to watch

728
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: him when he's on and he's lit The Patriots up year,

729
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: they had no answer for him. I get it. I'm

730
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: just saying, is there any concern about this guy's ability

731
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: to stay healthy when I give him? When I'm going

732
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: to give him fifty million a year? Am I going

733
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: to get seventeen games out of him plus playoffs every

734
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,919
Speaker 1: year for the next ten years, or am I gonna

735
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 1: just have to accept that, Well, hey, we'll probably get

736
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: a super Bowl in here somewhere on that one or

737
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,439
Speaker 1: two years that he actually stays healthy and is ready

738
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: to go in the playoffs. That's that's what I gotta say.

739
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: I'll let you go first. There's a whole lot of

740
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 1: QB wins in there. By the way, I'm just saying

741
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 1: forty five and sixteen. Forty five and sixteen is pretty good,

742
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 1: but we only focus on the one and three. Okay,

743
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: So but besides the fact that he's one of the

744
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 1: most dynamic players in the entire league, Like, I don't

745
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: even go on that rant yet, did you. I just

746
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: pulled it up because I wanted to make sure I

747
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: got this correctly, and I'm gonna read it to you.

748
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: So here was what the Denver Broncos traded for Russell Wilson,

749
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 1: who is significantly older than Lamar Jackson. Okay, they traded

750
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: Drew Locke, Noah Fant, Shelby Harris, two first round picks,

751
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: two second round picks, and a fifth round pick to

752
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 1: the Seahawks for Russell Wilson in the fourth round pick.

753
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 1: And you can get and gave him the bag and

754
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,919
Speaker 1: gave him the bag, thank you, and gave him the bag.

755
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: And you can get Lamar Jackson, who is younger and

756
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 1: better than Russell Wilson for far less than that package.

757
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: And that's that's what I don't Two first round picks

758
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,240
Speaker 1: for Lamar Jackson is not that bad. I don't understand

759
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 1: what the entire reaction is that two first round picks

760
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: for Lamar. Oh, we can't give up two for did

761
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 1: you just hear what the Broncos gave up for Russell Wilson?

762
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: And I won't even pull up the Deshaun Watson situation

763
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: and how all that went down. The fact that it's

764
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: too much for Lamar Jackson. Two first round picks is

765
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 1: a bargain for Lamar Jackson, an absolute bargain. So I

766
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:59,240
Speaker 1: will say that I really liked the start of your rants.

767
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: Oh thank you, because I I wholeheartedly agree. Obviously, when

768
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: you agree with something, you really like him, right, So yeah,

769
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: we like just like everywhere egomaniacs, just like everybody else.

770
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: When you suggest, you know at the start, like, I

771
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: don't understand why it's silly that you're you're not necessarily

772
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: willing to go that far from Lamar Jackson. And I

773
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: totally understand. I know exactly what Baltimore is weighing right now,

774
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: and they have him, they know how good he is.

775
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: I would push back on some of the you learned

776
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 1: well from me because you use statistics to benefit your

777
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: own argument by saying he's never started sixteen games while

778
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 1: completely ignoring the fact that he sat out the last

779
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:52,760
Speaker 1: game of the year yet completely healthy. Um the league MVP,

780
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 1: so Lamar Jackson, he's been injured that year the last

781
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: two years, Yes, he has been injured, and he missed

782
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 1: about a third of the games each of the last

783
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: two seasons. That to me is a major concern. And

784
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 1: there's no because of the way he plays like. I

785
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: don't think that he's going to be more rapt to

786
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: stay healthier. Well, you know, running the way he runs.

787
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: You gloss over forty five and sixteen. I'm sorry, this

788
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: is where I'm team Evan. There's not a lot of

789
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the league that win at that level. And also,

790
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: and I know that not every team gets to the

791
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: opportunity because the quarterback doesn't leave. But there's a lot

792
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,879
Speaker 1: of starting quarterbacks that have left their lineups in recent

793
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: years and the teams haven't fallen apart. I think of

794
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: Drew Brees towards the end in New Orleans. I think

795
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: of Dak Prescott last year in Dallas Baltimore. Can't win

796
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: a game without this guy. Like two years ago, they

797
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: literally lost every one of them. They were like seven

798
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: and four when he got hurt, of seven and five

799
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 1: or something like that when he got hurt. Well, no,

800
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 1: I think they were eight and three and they lost out.

801
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: They went eight. This year, at least Huntley won a

802
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: couple of games, got them in the playoffs, and had

803
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: them competitive. But I think the difference is, like in

804
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: other words, it's not a great team. He makes the

805
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: team great and he I mean, his numbers are just insanity.

806
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: And I know he's never approached the passing that he

807
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: did in that MVP year, But I would be I

808
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:36,240
Speaker 1: would if I was Miami Carolina, the Jets, Las Vegas.

809
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 1: I have no idea why the Jets won Aaron Rodgers

810
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 1: more than Lamar jack you know, the Jets. I would

811
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: be looking at my personnel and I'd be trying to

812
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: figure out how hard would it be for me to

813
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: transition a little bit to something more conducive to what

814
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson is comfortable in, And I would have no

815
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: problem with it. Like in other words, I'm probably a

816
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: no for the Patriots on Lamar Jackson, but not because

817
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 1: of Lamar Jackson's talent. That would be a ringing. Yes,

818
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: Like if I had an opportunity to get a top

819
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 1: sixty pick for Mac Jones and replace them with Lamar Jackson,

820
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: you do it. I you know what, I would do

821
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: a lot of driving to and from the airport. I

822
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 1: would drive back to the airport and be more than

823
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: willing to pick Lamar up to bring him back. I'm

824
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,800
Speaker 1: I'm a Mac defender. I had fend the wall on

825
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,720
Speaker 1: Mac and I would drive him to the airport. Sorry,

826
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: I love you, Mac, But like you know, this is

827
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson for talking about here. I just I understand

828
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: that for some teams like the Patriots, if you go

829
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,240
Speaker 1: to the ball with Lamar Jackson and then the Ravens

830
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: match the offer. Now, what does Mac Jones say to

831
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: you right now? You're really stuck in a rock and

832
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: a hard place, just like the Falcons were last year

833
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,399
Speaker 1: with Matt Ryan, for example. And I think that that's

834
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:52,720
Speaker 1: part of it with sometimes you get in trade rumors

835
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,439
Speaker 1: and sometimes but that that's part of you know why

836
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: I really get Madden. Like I like the way you

837
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: said it at the beginning of your ran, it's like,

838
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 1: you know what, you know, you're somehow chastised as being

839
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 1: either collusion with the with the good old boy owners

840
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: or worse, you know, collusions crowded in racism, you know,

841
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: because they're not interested. Whereas Evan just completely mapped out

842
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: another minority quarterback who was given the world to go

843
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 1: and poop the bed in Denver last year. Like no,

844
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: how quickly they forget, you know, when Cleveland and I

845
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 1: read this thing from Charles Robinson which was really interesting

846
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: from different agents given perspectives. When Cleveland decided to give

847
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,959
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson two hundred and forty million and guaranteed money,

848
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: everybody killed the Browns, Yeah, killed them. Now everybody's killing

849
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,479
Speaker 1: Baltimore for not giving them two hundred and forty million

850
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: to match it. Yeah, and this is a guy who's

851
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 1: been injured a couple of times lately. Like, I just

852
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: don't understand. I love Lamar Jackson. I think he's terrific.

853
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: But if someone says, I don't think Lamar Jack's that good,

854
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: he's not that accomplished a passer, He's been injured the

855
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: last two years. He's gonna cost you two for us

856
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: round picks. And two hundred and fifty million and guaranteed money.

857
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: Those are all facts. Like, just because I think Lamar

858
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 1: Jackson's great and you think he's great but aren't willing

859
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: to do that, doesn't make you a collusion guy or worse. Yeah,

860
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: I just think that first of all, it's good business

861
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: for the Ravens to just franchise, tag him and play

862
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: the string out. It's bad business for them to just

863
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 1: hand him two hundred fifty million dollars just because they

864
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 1: feel like they absolutely have to. They have the control

865
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: in this situation, make a play. If he plays on

866
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: the on the franchise tag this year, that's the best case, right,

867
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 1: and then they can even franchising and tagging him again

868
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 1: next year is still a good deal for them, like

869
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 1: going to Kirk Cousins ground. But the one thing I'll

870
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: push back with on the injuries, I think if he

871
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: has the bad last year, he plays, especially in the playoffs.

872
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: And I understand that. You know, Mike, we were joking

873
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: about this. Yeah that Mike was like, sounds like a

874
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 1: team guy. Yeah, I don't want on my team, right,

875
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: But I was my snarky that was my starky thing.

876
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: I think last year for better Patriots, you don't want

877
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 1: it anymore then for better or worse. I think last

878
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: year not playing down the stretching in the playoffs was

879
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: a business decision for Lamar Jackson. I agree, and I

880
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: can't really fault him for it. You know, somebody that

881
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: he has so much on the line, and I think

882
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: that he looks at other guys. I always hate to

883
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: go to the poster child of this, but RG three,

884
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: right like, you just don't want to be the next

885
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: RG three and I and that's I think what's in

886
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: the back of his mind last year, where if I

887
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: play at seventy five percent and then blow up my

888
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: knee and now I just it's over. You're gonna be

889
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 1: doing HISPN the next year, right three? And the other

890
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: part of that too, you know, like what Evan's talking about,

891
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: it's so hard like everybody, I think everybody just wants

892
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,800
Speaker 1: to make it so black and white. Well, they're clearly,

893
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: these these these old owners, they're all they're all colluding

894
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: and they're all you know, they don't want him because

895
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: he's he's black. Well, that's an easy convenient way to

896
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,919
Speaker 1: look at it. And maybe I don't know, I don't

897
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 1: of these owners, maybe some of them feel like that.

898
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: I'm not telling you what's in someone's heart. Maybe they do.

899
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: But if you're in Miami, as an example, and you

900
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: publicly come out and say, like, to you a point,

901
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 1: you're going to sign them to an offer sheet, which

902
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: is a hard process. There's like one guy in the

903
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 1: history of the franchise tag who's been signed away, right,

904
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 1: that's Sean Gilbert in ninety eight. So if you do

905
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:30,439
Speaker 1: that and then Baltimore matches, then you turn around and go, hey,

906
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: just kids love you a meeting, right, you're my guy.

907
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: Well that's why I think, like, that's what makes it

908
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 1: hard for these teams to publicly declare their desire for

909
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. And I don't buy for a second there's

910
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: no interest in Lamar Jackson, which is what came out

911
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: about five minutes after the franchise tag was announced on Tuesday.

912
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 1: Remember on Twitter, there wass just like carrying buckets of

913
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: water for the NFL. These five teams are already said

914
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: they're not interested. I don't believe that for a second. Yeah,

915
00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: but I let's just say it to your point, Evan

916
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 1: about and there's no question Lamar Jackson looks favorable and

917
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: just about any light compared to what they gave Russell

918
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 1: Wilson and to Shaun Watson. But do you think that

919
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 1: this is in some ways more connected to just the

920
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 1: owners not wanting to make Deshaun Watson the new standard.

921
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: And if Lamar Jackson now builds off of what Deshaun

922
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 1: Watson got, they feel that there's no stop in this train? Now?

923
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: Is that part of it too? Because of that deal?

924
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: Just so tough with what the Giants just gave Daniel Jones,

925
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 1: who's half the player that Lamar Jackson. Why I look

926
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: at it is it's clearly that's the direction it's going.

927
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: So maybe you can put your foot in, you know,

928
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: put your foot down over this one, right, But eventually

929
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 1: it's happening anyway. Yeah, I mean the guaranteed money is

930
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 1: one thing. I guess, you know, I don't know if

931
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 1: any buddy will ever sign a fully guaranteed deal like

932
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 1: that again. But if you're gonna give Daniel Jones three

933
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: for one sixty and Lamar is, I mean, forget about it,

934
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: he's worth almost double. Probably. I think that's what I

935
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 1: would do, is I would if you don't want to

936
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 1: give him two hundred and fifty million guaranteed, then see

937
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,479
Speaker 1: if will take a shorter term. That's what I would

938
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 1: do too, if I was a team like the Patriots

939
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: and I wanted to get into this dance. And again

940
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: I'm wary of the mac Jones thing too, Like that's

941
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: a big thing for me, Mac. I think Miami is

942
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: a great example to uh. If you're a team like

943
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 1: the Raiders who doesn't have a quarterback at all, then

944
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: Lamar is a perfect opportunity for you, Jets, Carolina, Right,

945
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 1: But these teams that have somebody like I'm not saying

946
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 1: mac Jones is the guy, but to have somebody exactly,

947
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 1: it's it's hard to do that. But if if I

948
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 1: was a team like the Patriots or any team, really,

949
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: I would offer him the fully guaranteed deal, but it

950
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: would be for three years, right, I'd offer him three

951
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: for one fifty fully guaranteed. That's what one of the

952
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: agents in the Charles Robinson piece today said, three three

953
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: year guaranteed, because then you know those three years you're

954
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,320
Speaker 1: gonna get a damn good quarterback and then you're not

955
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 1: hitched to the wagon if his physical tools start to

956
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 1: decline four or five years down the line, you're not

957
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: married to him to the point where you can't get

958
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 1: you know, get out of it. At that point, can

959
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: we can we talk about that Daniel Jones deal for

960
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: a second. And we got some callers, and please, we

961
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: got great emails. We get to those probably after we

962
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: break for lunch. I just I gotta get this Daniel

963
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: Jones thing it just because I think it relates a

964
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: lot to where the Patriots are. And you know, it's

965
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: a guy that just you're not that impressed with, but

966
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: like you just you feel like you're married to him.

967
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 1: Like what are giants, fans, giants execs saying to themselves

968
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: right now about Daniel Jones That we think he's going

969
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: to take the next step and we're going to be

970
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: able to complete compete with this Eagles team that we

971
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: saw last year. It seems like all of a sudden,

972
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: they're just coming on and they're gonna be, you know,

973
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 1: good for a while. Like it's just such a hard

974
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 1: spot to be in. And like, on one hand, I'd

975
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: love to say, man, if you have just a middling

976
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: quarterback that you're like kind of fooling yourself that you're

977
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 1: believing that he's really going to be the guy and

978
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: really lead you to like a super Bowl and to

979
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 1: be a top five team. But he's your guy, and yeah,

980
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 1: he's probably better than tossing yourself back into the wins

981
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: of free agency in the draft and trying to get

982
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: a quarterback. Like how do you reconcile all that? You know?

983
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: It's just hard. It's like you wonder and and I

984
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,439
Speaker 1: you know, and this year will say a lot about

985
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: mac and you know where he's at and if he's

986
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 1: kind of on that similar trajectory. But like, I just

987
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 1: having seen Daniel Jones what twice here over the last

988
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,959
Speaker 1: few summers, like we saw him last year and or sorry,

989
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: last year of practice, Like I just know, like you're

990
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 1: never gonna go You're never getting like a super Bowl

991
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 1: with this guy, and you just handed him all this money,

992
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: Like like how do you how do you live with

993
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: how do you live with yourself? I don't know. It's

994
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: just such a commulicated thing. It's not to me, it's

995
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 1: it's it's what makes it really hard because I think

996
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: there are a lot of teams that probably have quarterbacks

997
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 1: that they feel like people feel about Daniel Jones like

998
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 1: he's my starter, He's fine, I can win games with them.

999
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: I can't win the super Bowl with them. I love

1000
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: that in a press conference, you know, I mean I

1001
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: think they're probably banking on a couple of things. I

1002
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: think they're probably banking that year two of Dayble and

1003
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 1: Jones might be even better. YEA. One thing and and

1004
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: and the other thing is when you're a team like

1005
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: the Giants, who's a good franchise, um they've been down

1006
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 1: and finally had some success, you want to like intentionally

1007
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: break it up. What do you want to say, because

1008
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 1: you can we build to something a little bit bigger

1009
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: if we take a half step back. Maybe, But like,

1010
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,399
Speaker 1: like I got an argue with my brother yesterday because

1011
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: believe it or not, believe it or not, I don't

1012
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,800
Speaker 1: just argue with you, you bozos. I argue with my

1013
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: brother on the way home. I feel like we have

1014
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 1: a lot to blame on your brother for Oh he

1015
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: did this, He totally rich, is totally responsible for this.

1016
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,839
Speaker 1: So he's like, you know, I'd rather have Derek Carr

1017
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: and I would have done that, And I was like,

1018
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: I like Derek Carr too. I like him, I don't

1019
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 1: love him. I don't think much differently of Derek Carr

1020
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: than Daniel Jones Derek Carr. I think he's probably a

1021
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: better passer, better pure passer of the football, as they

1022
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: like to say. But he's not as as much of

1023
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 1: a threat to run as Daniel Jones. And I'm not

1024
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: sure he's as tough as Daniel Joe. Daniel Jones ha

1025
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: showed some toughness in New York. It's a tough place

1026
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: to play. He's getting a crap kicked out of him

1027
00:48:56,040 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: behind a terrible offensive line. If I got to give

1028
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: those that's what my point, I guess is they both

1029
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 1: cost like forty million. Yeah, like you're not getting it.

1030
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: Like my rich said, he goes, you know, you know,

1031
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 1: maybe like twenty five million ago. Well, you want to

1032
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 1: be the Patriots, then you want to take these guys

1033
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: and get them for the deal that you want. You

1034
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 1: have no choice, But that's not an option. Like, yeah,

1035
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: I'd rather have Tom Brady. It's twenty five million too,

1036
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: that's not on the table anymore. Those guys cost fifty now, right, Yeah,

1037
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,240
Speaker 1: I mean I just look at it from a Patriots perspective.

1038
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: I've been saying this since the Daniel Jones contract negotiations started.

1039
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: I just watch out for what Daniel Jones gets, and

1040
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 1: I get all of the Well Mac doesn't run as

1041
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 1: well as Dan. Yeah, that's that's that's fair. But if

1042
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 1: Mac Jones, if you take out wait a minute, if

1043
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: you have to interrupt you for something, I have to

1044
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 1: be rude. Sure, so you said watch out for what

1045
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones gets like this, Can I use them like

1046
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 1: two weeks ago or a week ago longer? Yeah, I've

1047
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: been saying a while, and Patriots fans came at you saying,

1048
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: but Daniel Jones can run. Yes, these are the same people, Mike.

1049
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: That's Mac Jones was already better than Daniel Jones two

1050
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 1: years ago in training camp. But this is my point.

1051
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 1: But this is my exact point. So if mac Jones

1052
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: is rookie season and his third season end up being

1053
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: what Mac Jones is with with the real offensive coordinated

1054
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 1: in a real setup on offense, and year two ends

1055
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 1: up being the outlier when his contract comes up, you're

1056
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 1: looking at forty five million dollars a year for mac

1057
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: Jones at least. Like, I'm sorry, question, that's that's what

1058
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 1: the march is just a natural progression. It's not gonna

1059
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 1: go backwards. Right, forget about the performance if he is

1060
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: your starter, and you want him to be your starter

1061
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: going forward after this year, and you want to resign

1062
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 1: them and extend them. Now I don't think they will, right,

1063
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 1: but if you want to, Evan is right, right, that's

1064
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 1: what it's gonna cost. Yeah, if you if you if

1065
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 1: mac Jones and two out of his three seasons has

1066
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 1: respectable box score stats gets you to the playoffs in

1067
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: two out of three years. Let's say they have a

1068
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 1: big bounce back year this year, they win eleven games,

1069
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 1: that gets to the divisional round and things are looking up,

1070
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 1: then mac Jones is going to garner the Daniel Jones contract.

1071
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: I think that's exactly that. If I was his agent,

1072
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:10,800
Speaker 1: that's exactly what I would say to the Patriots. I

1073
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 1: would say, that's that's our floor. That's our floor for

1074
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 1: an extension. And I'm not saying the Patriots, I would say,

1075
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: because he would be buying a free agent year, so

1076
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: maybe he gets a little bit less, but not much.

1077
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying the Patriots necessarily do that, But

1078
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 1: that's that's the market Daniel Jones has set them. Because

1079
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 1: that's not the deal that Derek Carr signed the last

1080
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 1: offseason with the Raiders. This is a legitimate two and

1081
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 1: a half year contract that Daniel Jones signed, two years

1082
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: eighty two million in the first two seasons and a

1083
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,320
Speaker 1: little bit more an injury guarantee for the third season.

1084
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,720
Speaker 1: So this is a legitimate three year deal that Daniel

1085
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: Jones signed, and that's going to be the going rate

1086
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 1: for a Daniel Jones level quarterback. And I think Mac

1087
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 1: Jones is right there with him. It's funny, like what

1088
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: other industry do you have to pay a guy the

1089
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 1: highest salary on your payroll and you really don't think

1090
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 1: he can he can really do what you really truly

1091
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 1: need him to do. You know, it's a great point

1092
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:07,439
Speaker 1: one of these things where but you got no choice.

1093
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: You gotta pay him forty million. Now, is he gonna

1094
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 1: get your super Bowl? Probably not, but that's what it

1095
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: is so tough. It's a good question of is there

1096
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 1: a school thought And this is like a deep offseason die,

1097
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 1: but is there a school a thought of recycling quarterbacks

1098
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: at some point? Like Smith right? Like is that gonna

1099
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 1: give anybody? You know, everybody wants to develop the next

1100
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 1: you know, it's the hot new thing. You'll get a

1101
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: j Brown, Like, is anybody gonna try to tell you

1102
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 1: sell the genial everything. It is a deep dive and

1103
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:33,800
Speaker 1: and I see the like the phone, the phone a

1104
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: starting to stack up. But I would be absolutely and

1105
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 1: fit because you know that I'm a little bit less

1106
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: on the Mac Jones trained than most. That would be

1107
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 1: exactly what I would do. I would say, I know

1108
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 1: he's not the guy. I'm gonna get rid of him

1109
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 1: and get probably another guy that I think I can

1110
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: get for less than I would have to resign him.

1111
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 1: All the while, every year I'm taking a swing in

1112
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 1: the draft. Yeah, I'm gonna draft Hendon Hooker, I'm gonna

1113
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: draft dtr I'm gonna draft somebody every year and just

1114
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,439
Speaker 1: have my fingers crossed so that can develop one. Yeah,

1115
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think it's a terrible strategy. If

1116
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 1: you feel like, like we keep saying that you have

1117
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 1: a guy that's middling, that's not going to give you

1118
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: the super Bowl but is not terrible, but you're not

1119
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 1: gonna pay forty five million dollars a year, Like if

1120
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 1: the Patriots in two years decide that somebody in the

1121
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 1: draft is just Mac Jones and we're just gonna start

1122
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: it over on the clock and the rookie deal and

1123
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: maybe he ends up having a little bit more upside

1124
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: out of nowhere something like, I don't know if Mac

1125
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: is you know basically what he's been for two years,

1126
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:39,399
Speaker 1: and that's he's not gonna get any better than that, right,

1127
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:45,240
Speaker 1: So if that happens, I mean, how many fewer wins

1128
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 1: would you have if Andy Dalton was the quarterback and

1129
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 1: you can get Andy Dalton for a fraction of what

1130
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,839
Speaker 1: it's going to cost you to resign Matt Jones? Yeah right,

1131
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: I'm not you know, you know where I stand on this,

1132
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 1: but like, how much fewer wins they have with Bailey Zappy? Right?

1133
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: I didn't use Zappy on purpose because I know how

1134
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 1: you felt about it. No. The reason why I'm coming

1135
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 1: around to things like this is I just can't stomach

1136
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 1: at the moment giving Mac Jones forty five million dollars.

1137
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 1: Just can't. On my show, Jim Murray is a big

1138
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: fan of just just keep drafting, right, And they make

1139
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: fun of him. Two of them make fun Mike and

1140
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,359
Speaker 1: Tony constantly make fun of him for it. I don't

1141
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: think he's wrong, No, Like, and this is again, if

1142
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: you if you have confidence in Mac Jones. Then that

1143
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 1: that changes the whole thing. That means you are prepared

1144
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 1: to give him forty plus million dollars and you're okay

1145
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: with it because you think he's ascending. The coaches, Noah,

1146
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: hell of a lot more about football than I ever will.

1147
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: So if they think he's ascending, that's the move that

1148
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: they make. Yeah fine, But if they don't, if they think,

1149
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 1: like what Evan's talking about, why not pull back on that?

1150
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:58,280
Speaker 1: Bringing just some random Bridge guy who you know, Drew Locke,

1151
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: you know, someone who hasn't really played at all. And

1152
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 1: maybe it's Geno. Maybe it happens like, what's the difference

1153
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: between the amount of whins you're gonna have? Yeah, like

1154
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 1: Geno Smith. You're not gonna go anywhere with Gino Smith.

1155
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 1: You're gonna win eight or nine games. That's all you're

1156
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 1: gonna win with Mac Jones, Right, so I can save

1157
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 1: a ton of money. Now you can't do that with

1158
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 1: Gino Smith anymore. But yeah, just Smith got the bag.

1159
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 1: I don't think that's a dumb way of looking at it.

1160
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 1: You just I mean you brought it home from me, Paul,

1161
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: because that's that's what it is. I'm like, and as

1162
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: a fan. I want to say, if I'm a Giants fan, like,

1163
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 1: don't sell me on this Daniel Jones contract unless you

1164
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 1: guys really believe that he is the guy that's just

1165
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: that whole stable thing. I have a ton of respect

1166
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 1: and it's probably it's personal, yeah, Like I just love

1167
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 1: the guy. I mean, you guys just got back from

1168
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: the combine. I can't tell you how many years Brian

1169
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 1: Dabel chewed my ear off sitting next to me on

1170
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: the on the plane back from the combine. Like, I

1171
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 1: really like the guy. Yea, So maybe I'm clouded by that.

1172
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: I will wholeheartedly I like him to accept that. I

1173
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 1: think that he really was instrumental in doing what Josh

1174
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: Allen has come, you know, turning. That's why I'm just

1175
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: so shocked that he's hitching his wagon right for right now,

1176
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 1: at least to Daniel Jones, because I just look in

1177
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: this draft and I think that this will happen with

1178
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: every draft, like the Anthony Richardson types. It's like, if

1179
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: Brian Dabele can make Josh Allen into Josh Allen, how

1180
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 1: does he not look at a guy like Anthony Richardson

1181
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 1: and be like, oh, I'll turn him into Josh Allen. Right,

1182
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,439
Speaker 1: I just don't understand you see, and I'm not telling

1183
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 1: you this is the same, So don't don't attack. I

1184
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: might attack kidding. I think Daniel Jones has a lot

1185
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: of qualities that Josh Allen had. I think he's got

1186
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 1: good size. I think he has good mobility. I think

1187
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,320
Speaker 1: he has a good arm, not Josh Allen's arm. I

1188
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 1: don't think there's a lot of guys dollars store Josh Allen.

1189
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe, but like, it wouldn't stun me if in

1190
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 1: two years we're looking at us like, wow, Brian Dabele

1191
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 1: turned Daniel Jones into a reasonably competent top third of

1192
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 1: the league quarterback. What is that top twelve quarterback? Yeah,

1193
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 1: it wouldn't stun me. And I don't like to angel John.

1194
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 1: I'm on right, I don't what I've seen. I'm not

1195
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: impressed with. I thought last year all he does is run.

1196
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:07,720
Speaker 1: He doesn't do doesn't do it for me as a passer.

1197
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:09,839
Speaker 1: It's an interesting contrast, though, to look at what Josh

1198
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 1: did with the Raiders, and I mean not totally same situation,

1199
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 1: but still an offensive kind of guru who comes in

1200
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 1: inherits a quarterback Giants went extended. Dana Jones, Josh is like,

1201
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: you're out, I'm gonna I'm gonna jump back into the mix,

1202
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 1: and who knows, maybe he goes for Anthony Richardson. Who Uh,

1203
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 1: that's gonna be fascinating to see what they do. Let's

1204
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 1: jump to the phones. Hey, Patty, I'm sorry for making

1205
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 1: you hold on for so long. We really got into

1206
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 1: it here about these contracts. No, I love it um

1207
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 1: and it kind of goes to where I'm gonna go

1208
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 1: and and I will get eventually get to the quarterback point.

1209
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 1: But what I wanted to say is if you will

1210
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: damp like what happened in the twenty eighteen at the

1211
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 1: top of the round of the in the twenty eighteen

1212
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 1: and twenty nineteen drafts. Right now, this team, but our

1213
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 1: beloved Patriots, are feeling the ripple of xun missing on

1214
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 1: three three guys that are arguably the three biggest needs

1215
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 1: right now. You know, side that cornerbacks with John Williams,

1216
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 1: left tackle with who I would argue probably the biggest

1217
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 1: buston and Dag and Pail Belichick's drafting history, Isaiah Wins

1218
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:20,439
Speaker 1: and the Kiel Harry you know, and and just look

1219
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 1: at look at where the team is at right now.

1220
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 1: I mean, those are three big boys that you're not

1221
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 1: gonna cosensibly fill in the draft in one year in

1222
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 1: the draft. This year you might be able to fill

1223
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 1: two with free agency in the draft. But man, I'm

1224
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 1: I hope beyond hope that this year because I'll call

1225
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 1: last year a watch. I still don't know what mac

1226
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 1: Jones is and I know that you know, half the

1227
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 1: fan base probably isn't a big believer in them. But

1228
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 1: the things I wanted to see him accomplished last year

1229
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 1: I really want to see. I want to see him

1230
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 1: like win games, put the team on his back in

1231
00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 1: a few games and come from behind and steal a

1232
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 1: gamer two that they're not supposed to win, and just

1233
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 1: show that like, hey, maybe you know, maybe this guy's

1234
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 1: going to be really good and maybe he has room

1235
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 1: to grow. Because I really don't want to go back

1236
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 1: into the quarterback carousel because we've seen it. I mean,

1237
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: you could get like the biggest, highly talented rookie. You're

1238
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 1: you're not winning a Super Bowl with a rookie quarterback,

1239
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 1: so you're you're really putting your team behind like three

1240
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 1: or four years if you have to go back into

1241
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 1: that quarterback herisself. And that's all I got. Great conversation guys,

1242
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: as always, Patriot sun filter is the best, um and

1243
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 1: catch twenty two is number two. Thanks Patty, Thanks Patty,

1244
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 1: appreciate it is. They win biggest draft bus though, Patty,

1245
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 1: I think that's a little especially when he says Nikhil

1246
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 1: Harry in the next year, but um, yeah, the whole Like, yeah,

1247
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 1: I think it'd be awfully difficult for a rookie quarterback

1248
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 1: to win. But I don't know why we have to

1249
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 1: go from that. So it's three or four years, So

1250
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 1: why can't it be great by year two? Yeah? Joe Burrow, right, Yeah,

1251
00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 1: you're Patrick Holmes, Joe Burrow, Ben Roethlisberger. I mean year three.

1252
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 1: I mean at the moment there were there were guys

1253
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 1: that are that that have a lot of success young. Yeah,

1254
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 1: like it doesn't have to be year four, year five. Yeah,

1255
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 1: I I it's impossible to disagree with the main point though,

1256
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 1: if those drafts, those high round draft picks in that area,

1257
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 1: you are reaping what you sewed right now and those

1258
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 1: years right. Yeah, that's his larger point and he and

1259
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 1: he nails that. We've talked about it many times. And

1260
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:27,919
Speaker 1: I think the whole thing with the quarterbacks is, Yeah,

1261
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 1: if you're asking me, what would I rather do? Would

1262
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 1: rather have to draft somebody every year? No, I'd rather

1263
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 1: have Mac Jones making an enormous leap this year, show

1264
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 1: everybody that I personally and completely wrong. And he's a

1265
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 1: guy that can throw forty two touchdowns and in eight

1266
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 1: picks and be the reason that your offense is dominant. Yeah,

1267
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 1: if that's that's the preferred road, you don't want to

1268
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 1: have to do the Evan and Paul thing where you're

1269
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 1: signing some quarterbacks. Just here. He's all in on this

1270
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 1: this idea too. But joanilliam is an interesting one because

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01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 1: this entire draft process, I've been don't draft the next Juan, Like,

1272
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 1: try to avoid that right at all costs. Let's try

1273
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 1: to avoid that. And I think the biggest thing that

1274
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 1: I can point to with Juwan Williams, and it showed

1275
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:15,919
Speaker 1: up on film, but it's just the easiest tangible ways

1276
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 1: the forty time right, we're in in the low four sixes,

1277
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 1: which is too slow to play corner in the NFL.

1278
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 1: That was a classic Paul Andy disagreement on the draft.

1279
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 1: And I won yeah, too slow to play corners. So

1280
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 1: a guy like Julius Brent's who I think everybody really

1281
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 1: likes for the Patriots from case day, right in the

1282
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 1: low four fives. So yeah, it's only a tenth of

1283
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 1: a second, but that tenth of a second matters, Like

1284
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 1: that's that's the difference between being there at the catch

1285
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 1: point and not being there at the catch point. So

1286
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 1: I think that's a big thing. If you're looking at

1287
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 1: these bigger corners, don't draft a four six corner right

1288
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 1: like they did draft the guys that can run. I'm

1289
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 1: not your draft slow corner. That's yeah, that's a little

1290
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 1: tip up. We're gonna take We're gonna grab Matthew in

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01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 1: Nebraska here before we take a quick break for lunch. Hello, Matthew,

1292
01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 1: what's going on? Hey? How you guys? John Great. I'm

1293
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 1: gonna take a shift away from what you guys him

1294
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 1: talking about, just gonna get your thoughts on a hello, Yeah, yeah,

1295
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 1: we're here, you're on there. I just want to give

1296
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 1: your thoughts on a wider, steeper coming out of Nebraska.

1297
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 1: It's Tray Palmer. Oh. I like him, the guy that

1298
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 1: i've kind of watched a little bit as he's played

1299
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 1: here and he did pretty well last season and kind

1300
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 1: of have to see him go. But he's kind of

1301
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if you kind of equate him to

1302
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 1: Taykwon Thornton. He's fast, yeah, so I just don't know

1303
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 1: if you have done much researching to see if he

1304
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 1: has did. It was in my first mock I grabbed.

1305
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 1: I grabbed him. I like, I mean as a late

1306
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 1: round kind of thanks for my Matthew, appreciate um, you know,

1307
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 1: speed a little bit bigger smart of slot out of

1308
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 1: you know, speed out of the slot. Yeah, you're a

1309
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 1: little bit of concern. I think with his Senior Bowl week,

1310
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 1: he didn't didn't like wow me with separation and one

1311
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 1: on ones. And that's that's the type of if you're

1312
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 1: going to be a good receiver, like you'd like to

1313
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:53,479
Speaker 1: hope to think that in a one on one drill

1314
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 1: in practice that you can get open a little bit.

1315
01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 1: He got to open on the vertical plane, but I

1316
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 1: didn't see a ton of horizontal separation. I just think

1317
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 1: that I like him as a player, as a mid

1318
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 1: round guy that you just take a flyer on in

1319
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 1: the fourth or fifth round. No problem with that whatsoever.

1320
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 1: But I do think that you'd like to aim a

1321
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 1: little bit higher. If you're the Patriots. Then if they

1322
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 1: go out and they trade for DeAndre Hopkins and they

1323
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 1: draft Trey Palmer in the end of the fourth round,

1324
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 1: I'm not going to complain, Like, I'm not going to

1325
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 1: say that that was a bad I'm pack him in

1326
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 1: the third and tell us he's going to be he's

1327
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 1: the guy. Yeah, right, Uh, what do you think, Paul?

1328
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 1: You want to you can take Let's clear the board here,

1329
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 1: let's clear the board. I got Mark out in Bolton. Hey, Mark, Oh, hey, guys,

1330
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 1: um As, Paul always been in on Tremaine Edemands as

1331
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 1: my number one free agency sign signing, So I'm with

1332
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 1: Evan on that one. Um. I'm also making the case

1333
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 1: for Juwan Taylor at right tackle because of his pass blocking,

1334
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 1: his run blocking is definitely lacking. So my question for

1335
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 1: Evan is, you know, with Clem's emphasis on violence in

1336
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 1: his teaching philosophy, can he improve Taylor in the run

1337
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 1: game or is it more game more about want too technique.

1338
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 1: I definitely think it's more about want too in some respects.

1339
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 1: I mean, run blocking is a mentality like running the

1340
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 1: football in general. Is a mentality. It's one of the

1341
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 1: old The only like old football tropes that I still

1342
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:25,439
Speaker 1: think is true is that running the football is Jowan Taylor.

1343
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 1: He nailed it though a really high level pass protector,

1344
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 1: not a people mover in the run game. I think

1345
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 1: he could get there with some technical stuff. When you

1346
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 1: look at run game, it's always hand placement and pad level,

1347
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 1: Like if you don't if you're not the lowest guy

1348
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 1: at the point of attack, then you're not going to

1349
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 1: move people off the line of scrimmage. I think that's

1350
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 1: probably his biggest problem. But I look at them, they're

1351
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 1: types right at left and right tackle. Typically the pass

1352
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:51,440
Speaker 1: blockers they like to play at left tackle, and the

1353
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 1: guys that are the bulldozers play on the right side.

1354
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 1: So if they stick to that mold, then I don't

1355
01:04:56,800 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 1: know if Taylor is necessarily their their right tackle that

1356
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 1: they would like. But he's got thirty five inch arms,

1357
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 1: he's got to build it in the feet to play

1358
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 1: on the left side. I don't love signing a guy

1359
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 1: to a big contract and then flipping him immediately, but

1360
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 1: if you feel like maybe he's a better a bet

1361
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 1: for you in your scheme at left tackle, it's I

1362
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 1: like the player, so I would be fine with them

1363
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 1: bringing him in. I would be interested to see how

1364
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 1: they they change things up if they don't want him

1365
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 1: to if they want to play him at right tackle

1366
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 1: and he's not the bulldozer type, how do they change

1367
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 1: it up or if they switch him? All right, let's

1368
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 1: grab one more here before we take a break for lunch.

1369
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 1: Mike from Puerto Rico. Hey, Mike, Hey, guys, how are

1370
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 1: you doing? Good? Good a friend? Not around? No? Not today? Sorry?

1371
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 1: You gonna talk to Duce? Okay? So who sorry you?

1372
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 1: I hear? Evan is al Yeah, we got Mike, Evan

1373
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 1: and Paul. Okay. Um, I have to do some m

1374
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 1: this is off topic, um, offseason topic. Nice, but I

1375
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:56,440
Speaker 1: have to do conduct some interviews next week for an

1376
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 1: employee hire. And I heard some of the conversation last

1377
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:04,920
Speaker 1: week the podcast about Fred's success with hiring and people

1378
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 1: that have been and no, but I wanted to ask y'all,

1379
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 1: if who what was the the interview question that you

1380
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 1: felt was the most effective during your process when you

1381
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:24,600
Speaker 1: were interviewed. Um, so I'm guessing I believe Paul, you

1382
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 1: were interviewed by Fred. I was and then for Duson

1383
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 1: and Evan who interviewed you guys. Yeah, I was. I

1384
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 1: was with Fred and Matt, and then I guess Evan

1385
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 1: was with the three of us. It was like, yeah,

1386
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:38,680
Speaker 1: well you at first and then and then the in

1387
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 1: person was with all three of you. Yeah, I blame

1388
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 1: Mike for you saw Mike's fault. I don't what do

1389
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:48,720
Speaker 1: you think which question out of that interview process which

1390
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:53,560
Speaker 1: you interviewed for you found the most effective? Yeah, I

1391
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 1: don't remember. I don't. I wish I had something for you, Mike.

1392
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 1: It was twenty four years ago. All I remember is

1393
01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 1: the staying on Fred's shirt. He had like a T

1394
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 1: shirt on with a stain on it. I'll bring I'll

1395
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:06,960
Speaker 1: bring one up, just um. And I don't know if

1396
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:08,320
Speaker 1: this was the best one, but it was just when

1397
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 1: I remember it was, Fred said, how are you with

1398
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 1: hearing the word no? And by that point I had

1399
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 1: worked in Hollywood for thirteen years, and I said, I'm

1400
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 1: waiting here, Yes, I'm all I hear is no? So

1401
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:22,880
Speaker 1: I have no problem or no. But that was, you know,

1402
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 1: just one for me, And that's you know something I

1403
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 1: think that anybody where you're trying to pitch ideas and

1404
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:29,960
Speaker 1: creative and get things going that you know, not everything's

1405
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:32,560
Speaker 1: going to check every My interview was similar to when

1406
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 1: we spoke with Evan, just coming from sort of the

1407
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 1: mainstream media to the team media. That's a lot of

1408
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 1: my questions were based on that, and I know, in

1409
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 1: being part of Evan's process, we talked a lot about that. Yeah,

1410
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:46,360
Speaker 1: that was what I was going to say. It was

1411
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 1: just how do we take what I was already doing

1412
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:53,440
Speaker 1: my past job and package it to be doing it here.

1413
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 1: I think because you and I had already known each

1414
01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 1: other so well that it wasn't so much of getting

1415
01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:00,280
Speaker 1: to know your game. It was more about already knew you,

1416
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 1: this is what this is what you're good at. How

1417
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:04,960
Speaker 1: do we make that work as an in house media

1418
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:07,480
Speaker 1: reporter now instead of somebody else. That's why we had

1419
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 1: we had Mike come in to do a radio show.

1420
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 1: When we hired Mike, he was sitting right there. I

1421
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 1: was asking about a sophomore in hot corner. That was uh,

1422
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 1: that was cool. I mean it was with the great,

1423
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:19,560
Speaker 1: the great Paul Pearl and Fred Kirschen, Eric Scalovino, and

1424
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 1: Megan Bryan. I couldn't believe it. Uh, thanks Mike for

1425
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 1: the question. Uh, but yeah, we're still trying. Evan Evan

1426
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:28,160
Speaker 1: still he had a taste of the real journalism, and

1427
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 1: it's it's still inside of him of like it is,

1428
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:32,640
Speaker 1: you know, but like and that's why I felt like

1429
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:35,880
Speaker 1: He and I talked a lot at his because I

1430
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:38,800
Speaker 1: remember back and one of the first things I asked

1431
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:41,960
Speaker 1: Fred was, let's just say, for argument's sake, I find

1432
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:46,680
Speaker 1: out that Pete Carroll's getting fired, how do how you know?

1433
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:48,439
Speaker 1: What do we do? When? How do we proceed with that?

1434
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 1: You know? And that was basically, you know, I was

1435
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 1: still short of mouth, you know, delusions of grandeur of

1436
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:57,600
Speaker 1: you know, like being the only one that would know

1437
01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 1: something like that, but I was sort of not eve

1438
01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 1: still um coming from the Herald. I just wanted to know,

1439
01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 1: you know, can I still be a reporter? Basically yeah, yeah,

1440
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 1: And the answer was now, Yeah, we were just talking

1441
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:12,720
Speaker 1: about this because usually I I have a source that

1442
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 1: gets me the picks early for the draft, so sometimes

1443
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 1: I have tipped picks in the past on Twitter, so

1444
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 1: kind of the same thing. If we're Jeff how keep Yeah, well,

1445
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 1: we're at least wondering because we obviously can see them too.

1446
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:30,200
Speaker 1: But now it's like, all right, who's gonna get it first?

1447
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 1: Because those are the worst moments on the Draft show

1448
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:34,719
Speaker 1: is when like being cold, strange and you're like, oh

1449
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:40,639
Speaker 1: and you know it's about to happen, and what page

1450
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 1: I keep driving? All right, that's gonna do it for

1451
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:44,679
Speaker 1: us for a moment. We're gonna just grab some lunch

1452
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:47,080
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Speaker 1: which we could be. Yeah, yeah, which we could be.

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Speaker 1: But do you think there's a chance, Um, well, what

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Speaker 1: I don't think any Thanks, I hang up and listen,

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1676
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:21,400
Speaker 1: like that's a day three legit need and mocked off

1677
01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:24,080
Speaker 1: one point zero. I had Jake Moody, the kicker from Michigan.

1678
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:26,840
Speaker 1: Who have the other guy that everybody's on? No, no, no,

1679
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:29,200
Speaker 1: So now in mock draft two point out, I put

1680
01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:32,360
Speaker 1: my top punter in two point out. So I went

1681
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:34,280
Speaker 1: kicker in the first one, punter in the second one.

1682
01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:36,400
Speaker 1: That's a protease. I'm not going to tell you who

1683
01:22:36,439 --> 01:22:40,200
Speaker 1: it is. Yeah, you have to tune into You'll have

1684
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:42,479
Speaker 1: to check it out on the Bobby. So I should

1685
01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:43,920
Speaker 1: say too, we're gonna I think we'll give it away

1686
01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:46,080
Speaker 1: a T shirt today. And there have been people preemptively

1687
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:49,280
Speaker 1: writing in answers and such. Could just give an answer

1688
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:52,679
Speaker 1: to questions we have a postures. This is great from Chutters,

1689
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:55,000
Speaker 1: you know fan of the show. Um, he just answered

1690
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:58,400
Speaker 1: Gino's piece, just taking kimble on what today's question might

1691
01:22:58,479 --> 01:23:00,800
Speaker 1: be to get my answer in ahead of time. That's good.

1692
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:03,880
Speaker 1: So I don't know, Chutters, you know you're a pretty

1693
01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:05,400
Speaker 1: big fan. I don't know. We might have to put

1694
01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:07,479
Speaker 1: you on the list anyway to send a T shirt. Um,

1695
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:09,280
Speaker 1: but why don't we do that in a few minutes.

1696
01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:10,920
Speaker 1: Why don't we say, like one thirty, you know, about

1697
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:13,519
Speaker 1: about five minutes, we'll get some calls and some emails done,

1698
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:15,880
Speaker 1: get on top of those, and then uh, we'll give

1699
01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 1: away a T shirt with some kind of PU trivia post.

1700
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:21,880
Speaker 1: Mike is like a little frazzled. Here, we're gonna, we're gonna,

1701
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:24,760
Speaker 1: we're gonna look at this email and we're gonna go inside.

1702
01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:27,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna go outside. All right, let's go up to Canada. Hey,

1703
01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:31,439
Speaker 1: it's Sean. Hey Sean, are you doing? Hey, guys, how's

1704
01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 1: it going? You know? I was never huge into college,

1705
01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:40,000
Speaker 1: but in twenty and fifteen I happened to watch Louisville

1706
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:42,880
Speaker 1: and I fell in love with Jackson. I couldn't wait

1707
01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:46,040
Speaker 1: for him to come to the NFL. And then when

1708
01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:48,920
Speaker 1: he was on the board in the first round instead

1709
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:51,160
Speaker 1: of when I wanted him. And then it was again

1710
01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:53,400
Speaker 1: on the board instead of Michelle, I wanted him. And

1711
01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:55,599
Speaker 1: I think he's great. I love him, but I don't

1712
01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:58,479
Speaker 1: think he's right for the Patriots. I think, I mean,

1713
01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 1: at this point, you're not a team that's a playoff team,

1714
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:06,120
Speaker 1: and it would be a waste to to go after him.

1715
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:07,479
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to pay them a lot. You won't

1716
01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:09,680
Speaker 1: have money for other needs, and you have a lot

1717
01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:11,880
Speaker 1: of needs. So the best thing to do at this

1718
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:16,280
Speaker 1: point is to try and put your investments to protect

1719
01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:18,760
Speaker 1: Mac and give them some weapons and let's see if

1720
01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:21,200
Speaker 1: he's for real, Because um, you know if Patty said,

1721
01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:23,400
Speaker 1: we don't know, we have to find out, that's our

1722
01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:25,640
Speaker 1: number one goal. All right, That's all I got. It is,

1723
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:28,320
Speaker 1: thank you, Sean, appreciate. I mean, I think that the

1724
01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:30,920
Speaker 1: last part of what he said is probably the sound

1725
01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:33,320
Speaker 1: way to go about it. But don't you think they'd

1726
01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:35,439
Speaker 1: be a playoff team with lamar Ja? Yeah? They were

1727
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:38,919
Speaker 1: one went away from a playoff team last year exactly.

1728
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:43,120
Speaker 1: And I also just me and Potter and Lockstep on

1729
01:24:43,160 --> 01:24:45,240
Speaker 1: the cap thing, like, don't give me that they wouldn't

1730
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:48,240
Speaker 1: have money to go out and upgrade the rest of

1731
01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:51,160
Speaker 1: the roster. They would have. Here's where I like, I

1732
01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:54,400
Speaker 1: do separate them because I do recognize they would absolutely

1733
01:24:54,439 --> 01:24:57,479
Speaker 1: have cap space to do whatever they wanted, which you're seeing. Oh,

1734
01:24:57,560 --> 01:24:59,840
Speaker 1: by the way, I haven't seen as many snarky people

1735
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,960
Speaker 1: asking me about cap when I'm reading about so and

1736
01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:06,000
Speaker 1: so restructured is saving them eighteen million on the cap

1737
01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:08,559
Speaker 1: so and so restructured. That's why it's a fake cap.

1738
01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:11,439
Speaker 1: That's why the cap is crap, because there are countless

1739
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:14,519
Speaker 1: ways to get Felger's napkin out and do the salary

1740
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:18,639
Speaker 1: cap to get in compliance when you don't want the player,

1741
01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:24,280
Speaker 1: which evidently the Jets don't care about Braxton Barrios. You

1742
01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:26,400
Speaker 1: try to get him to restructure, he says no. When

1743
01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:29,280
Speaker 1: you say see you buy and you say five million,

1744
01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:33,320
Speaker 1: yeah right there, like just like that. But the money

1745
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:35,640
Speaker 1: to me is, you know, if if they had to

1746
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:39,200
Speaker 1: give them, say a cash outlay and some of the

1747
01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:43,080
Speaker 1: This is interesting too about the whole guarantee thing and

1748
01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:46,639
Speaker 1: that I forget what the actual percentage is, but when

1749
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:49,120
Speaker 1: you guarantee your contract, the owner has to put that

1750
01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:52,960
Speaker 1: money in escrow for it. Got like the cash and

1751
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:56,320
Speaker 1: for Deshaun Watson, something like one hundred and eighty million

1752
01:25:56,479 --> 01:26:00,640
Speaker 1: that needs to be sitting in like NFL coffers, you know,

1753
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:03,240
Speaker 1: like by September. Right. I had this explain to me,

1754
01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:06,400
Speaker 1: but as usual, there was math involved, so I was

1755
01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:09,719
Speaker 1: checked out. I was swimming upstream and had no idea

1756
01:26:09,800 --> 01:26:11,920
Speaker 1: what I was listening to. But I had this explain

1757
01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:15,920
Speaker 1: to me by people in finance, and they talked about

1758
01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:19,040
Speaker 1: some of those things and what they mean, and I

1759
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:21,559
Speaker 1: think that might be a deterrent, you know, as much

1760
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:25,080
Speaker 1: as the actual cash outlay. Not everybody just has like

1761
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:26,840
Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty million to say, oh oh, here

1762
01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:29,760
Speaker 1: you go. It's like, you know, me, I can pay

1763
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:32,519
Speaker 1: you know, I can't pay three hundred and fifty thousand

1764
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:34,720
Speaker 1: dollars from my house, but I can pay a couple

1765
01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 1: of thousand dollars per month every month for thirty years

1766
01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:39,400
Speaker 1: to get it right, you know. And a lot of

1767
01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:41,840
Speaker 1: owners are like that, with a lot of zeros added

1768
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:44,679
Speaker 1: on to the end. They have the money to pay

1769
01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:48,519
Speaker 1: for their franchise, obviously, but not necessarily to just say

1770
01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:51,559
Speaker 1: here you go. It's the whole Yeah, that's a totally

1771
01:26:51,640 --> 01:26:54,479
Speaker 1: fair point. And I should preface it by saying, I

1772
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:56,120
Speaker 1: don't think that the Patriots are going to pay Lamar

1773
01:26:56,280 --> 01:26:58,519
Speaker 1: Jackson and then go out there and spend one hundred

1774
01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:01,760
Speaker 1: million dollars free ag Right, that's on top of it, right, Like,

1775
01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:03,880
Speaker 1: I don't think that. But in terms of filling holes,

1776
01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:06,360
Speaker 1: if you get a quarterback like Lamar Jackson, you hope

1777
01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:08,640
Speaker 1: that he fills some of those holes for you, Right, Like,

1778
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:12,280
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, your offensive line being maybe really

1779
01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:14,160
Speaker 1: good at run blocking but not so good at pass

1780
01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:16,080
Speaker 1: blocking isn't as a bit of a deal because he

1781
01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:18,479
Speaker 1: got Lamar Jackson running around back there now instead of

1782
01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:20,840
Speaker 1: a sitting duck. No, offense, and so I think that

1783
01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:25,439
Speaker 1: you look at those types of things and and uh,

1784
01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:29,160
Speaker 1: you hope, just like Brady did here for years that Okay,

1785
01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:32,320
Speaker 1: maybe our roster isn't as good over here, but we

1786
01:27:32,439 --> 01:27:35,360
Speaker 1: have the MVP of the league playing quarterback, so it

1787
01:27:35,439 --> 01:27:38,080
Speaker 1: doesn't make up as much of a of a big deal,

1788
01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:39,720
Speaker 1: you know, as it does. Now. All right, let's rittle

1789
01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:41,640
Speaker 1: through a few emails because they're they've been coming in.

1790
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:43,800
Speaker 1: Appreciate everybody at the time that I can start making

1791
01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:45,559
Speaker 1: fun of Fred. He looks like he has important people

1792
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:47,080
Speaker 1: with him. So we won't do it now, we we

1793
01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:49,240
Speaker 1: just we know the shows shows doing a lot better

1794
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:52,880
Speaker 1: today without Fred dragging us down. Quick one here from

1795
01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:56,559
Speaker 1: Alex from Connecticut. Um, Evan, this is a simple one

1796
01:27:56,640 --> 01:27:58,080
Speaker 1: for us here, well, I mean all of us. I

1797
01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:00,240
Speaker 1: don't know why I just said, Evan, it's not x

1798
01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:02,680
Speaker 1: is and O thing. Um, it's not about football. So

1799
01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:08,400
Speaker 1: my question ran away and it's not. This is actually

1800
01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:12,880
Speaker 1: soap it's happening, and this is where I came up

1801
01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:15,360
Speaker 1: with it, right here in the studio. Um. So I

1802
01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:17,360
Speaker 1: simple question, though, and I think it's a good one.

1803
01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:19,479
Speaker 1: Not just would you rather the Patriots trade for a

1804
01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:21,840
Speaker 1: stud receiver and draft to tackle or sign a solid,

1805
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:25,120
Speaker 1: solidified starting tackle and draft a receiver. He says that fourteen,

1806
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:27,760
Speaker 1: Someone like Jazz said, but you know, just generally, do

1807
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:29,200
Speaker 1: you have a feel for that, like, you know, do

1808
01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:30,800
Speaker 1: you have a preference, because I kind of feel like,

1809
01:28:31,800 --> 01:28:34,880
Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's pluses and cons for both. I mean, certainly,

1810
01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:37,680
Speaker 1: with a young rookie receiver on a contract that you know,

1811
01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:39,880
Speaker 1: you got him for four years at that price, you're

1812
01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:41,479
Speaker 1: gonna have to pay a lot more to get that,

1813
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:46,559
Speaker 1: you know, proven veteran receiver. But is money equal? Money's equal.

1814
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:50,360
Speaker 1: I'd rather have the free agent receiver then. But that's

1815
01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:52,800
Speaker 1: easy to say without knowing exactly who it is. Yeah, yeah,

1816
01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:55,439
Speaker 1: I think that's always It makes these hypotheticals tough for me.

1817
01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:59,640
Speaker 1: It's who is it that we're talking about? But I

1818
01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:02,000
Speaker 1: don't know. I go back and forth on the tackles

1819
01:29:02,120 --> 01:29:04,800
Speaker 1: because I do look at the free agent crop of

1820
01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:07,800
Speaker 1: tackles and there's some really intriguing names there on this

1821
01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:12,360
Speaker 1: list of Orlando Brown now not franchise tagged McGlinchey, Caleb McGarry,

1822
01:29:12,439 --> 01:29:15,680
Speaker 1: Juwan Taylor. I think these are all guys that are upgrades,

1823
01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:18,920
Speaker 1: plug and play. Let's go, you know, at one of

1824
01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:21,760
Speaker 1: those two tackle spots. And I think that if you

1825
01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:24,519
Speaker 1: do that, then maybe in the draft you do free

1826
01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:27,640
Speaker 1: up that fourteenth overall pick to go wide receiver, to

1827
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:31,000
Speaker 1: go best player available and not get caught in having

1828
01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:33,200
Speaker 1: to take a tackle. I think some of the issues

1829
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:34,840
Speaker 1: that they've had over the last couple of years in

1830
01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:37,200
Speaker 1: the draft that it's been better. But last year I

1831
01:29:37,240 --> 01:29:39,320
Speaker 1: think is the perfect because they were caught and having

1832
01:29:39,360 --> 01:29:42,160
Speaker 1: to take a guard, or at least they felt that way.

1833
01:29:42,200 --> 01:29:44,479
Speaker 1: I don't think they were, but that's how they felt.

1834
01:29:44,680 --> 01:29:46,880
Speaker 1: So that's how you end up getting cold strange is

1835
01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:49,000
Speaker 1: because they needed a guard and he was the best

1836
01:29:49,080 --> 01:29:51,680
Speaker 1: guard available. I would just answer it by saying that

1837
01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:53,880
Speaker 1: if you're asking me, would I rather pick twenty million

1838
01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:56,040
Speaker 1: a year for a tackle, which is going to cost

1839
01:29:56,080 --> 01:29:58,320
Speaker 1: you to get one of these, you know, maybe fifteen

1840
01:29:58,439 --> 01:30:02,080
Speaker 1: for a guy like McGlinchey, right, but um or twenty

1841
01:30:02,120 --> 01:30:04,439
Speaker 1: million for a wide receiver. I'll take the wide receiver.

1842
01:30:04,600 --> 01:30:06,560
Speaker 1: But I need you know, like it can't just be

1843
01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:09,840
Speaker 1: like I don't want to pay Brandon Cooks twenty million,

1844
01:30:10,439 --> 01:30:12,640
Speaker 1: but I'll pay te Higgins twenty million. You know what

1845
01:30:12,640 --> 01:30:15,200
Speaker 1: I mean, it needs to be a receiver of you know,

1846
01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:19,720
Speaker 1: some level. I do love JSN. I do love him.

1847
01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:22,200
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a lot of people saying he's not

1848
01:30:22,280 --> 01:30:24,600
Speaker 1: going to be around at fourteen. Now I don't know

1849
01:30:24,640 --> 01:30:27,040
Speaker 1: about that, Like I no, I don't, I don't know.

1850
01:30:27,120 --> 01:30:29,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't see the burst to pull away.

1851
01:30:29,240 --> 01:30:31,880
Speaker 1: But he's quick. I'm to the point now where my

1852
01:30:32,040 --> 01:30:34,600
Speaker 1: draft analysis is nowhere. Obviously it's nowhere near where you

1853
01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:38,960
Speaker 1: guys just came back from. But I now have definitively

1854
01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:42,560
Speaker 1: from the people that I've been reading somewhere in the

1855
01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:46,479
Speaker 1: neighborhood of thirty guys that are won't be available when

1856
01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:49,679
Speaker 1: the paper there's always there's so many top ten guys,

1857
01:30:49,720 --> 01:30:53,800
Speaker 1: there's like fifty fifty top json. I think that, I mean,

1858
01:30:53,880 --> 01:30:56,760
Speaker 1: he's he's as close as to what I would want,

1859
01:30:56,880 --> 01:31:00,639
Speaker 1: Like if he ran at the combine and that box

1860
01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:02,880
Speaker 1: two in the forty, then I would I would be

1861
01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:05,240
Speaker 1: all in on it. But I just can't wrap my

1862
01:31:05,320 --> 01:31:06,600
Speaker 1: head around and this is sort of what we were

1863
01:31:06,640 --> 01:31:08,840
Speaker 1: talking about on the Mock Draft Show. I can't wrap

1864
01:31:08,920 --> 01:31:11,720
Speaker 1: my head around Bill Belichick taking a receiver with the

1865
01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:15,479
Speaker 1: fourteenth overall pick like Bill just feels like we build

1866
01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:19,639
Speaker 1: inside out, you know, trenches, like that's that's where we start.

1867
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:22,240
Speaker 1: And the receiver is like the cherry on top that

1868
01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:25,360
Speaker 1: especially him, which is not even like that receiver R

1869
01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:27,599
Speaker 1: like it's going to be a specific slot kind of guy.

1870
01:31:27,640 --> 01:31:29,120
Speaker 1: If they were picking in the top five and this

1871
01:31:29,200 --> 01:31:31,080
Speaker 1: was a year where Jamar Chase was in the draft

1872
01:31:31,240 --> 01:31:32,840
Speaker 1: or someone like that, that it would be one thing.

1873
01:31:32,960 --> 01:31:36,200
Speaker 1: But for a guy that's that's really just coming in

1874
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:38,880
Speaker 1: to be a hyper uh you know, role player, And

1875
01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:40,360
Speaker 1: I mean just you know, guy is going to be

1876
01:31:40,439 --> 01:31:42,599
Speaker 1: a stud in the role that you're asking him to play.

1877
01:31:42,640 --> 01:31:44,880
Speaker 1: And I just see Bill wanting to build through the

1878
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:46,920
Speaker 1: trenches and I just don't know what the I think

1879
01:31:46,920 --> 01:31:49,880
Speaker 1: the fourteenth overall pick would be too rich for him. Yeah,

1880
01:31:50,200 --> 01:31:54,320
Speaker 1: for a receiver going from Claire Um not surprising, hello

1881
01:31:54,400 --> 01:31:56,840
Speaker 1: Claire Hella Marine Um. But of course tight ends And

1882
01:31:56,920 --> 01:31:59,000
Speaker 1: she's right with the tight end class being so good

1883
01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:01,599
Speaker 1: this year that the Pats will draft the tight end

1884
01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:04,120
Speaker 1: at all. If so, how high do you think that

1885
01:32:04,160 --> 01:32:06,960
Speaker 1: with the wide receiver class being a little shallow, would

1886
01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:09,519
Speaker 1: that weapon be better picked as a tight end? I

1887
01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:12,280
Speaker 1: like where she's going and I hope so we both

1888
01:32:12,320 --> 01:32:14,479
Speaker 1: address tight end in our latest mock drafts. You a

1889
01:32:14,520 --> 01:32:16,920
Speaker 1: little bit higher than me. But there's a lot of

1890
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:19,479
Speaker 1: a lot of guys in there that intrigue and you know,

1891
01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:21,639
Speaker 1: I and like Claire said, I wouldn't have a problem

1892
01:32:21,720 --> 01:32:23,519
Speaker 1: with just like maybe a move guy like all right,

1893
01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:25,160
Speaker 1: he's not gonna be gronk or he's not gonna be

1894
01:32:25,200 --> 01:32:27,160
Speaker 1: a blocking you know guy, but he's going to be

1895
01:32:27,200 --> 01:32:29,519
Speaker 1: a weapon for us. And I mean Dalton Kinkay probably gone.

1896
01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:31,640
Speaker 1: But but there are a couple of guys like that.

1897
01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:33,759
Speaker 1: I think the great part about this tight end class,

1898
01:32:33,880 --> 01:32:36,200
Speaker 1: Like if you see a mock draft that has Michael

1899
01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:39,320
Speaker 1: Mayer to the Patriots at fourteen, just don't pay attention

1900
01:32:39,439 --> 01:32:44,360
Speaker 1: to that mock draft, okay, because there's no reason whatsoever

1901
01:32:44,520 --> 01:32:46,800
Speaker 1: for the Patriots to take Michael Mayer at fourteen in

1902
01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:50,360
Speaker 1: this tight end class. Yeah, it just makes no sense whatsoever. Now,

1903
01:32:50,400 --> 01:32:52,880
Speaker 1: if they had an immediate need at tight end, and

1904
01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:54,920
Speaker 1: maybe I would, I could see it a little bit more.

1905
01:32:55,280 --> 01:32:57,439
Speaker 1: But you you mentioned some guys in that like third

1906
01:32:57,520 --> 01:33:01,200
Speaker 1: or fourth round area, like a Laporta or Schoonmaker or

1907
01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:04,720
Speaker 1: Zach Koontz from old old dominions. You have to say,

1908
01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:11,120
Speaker 1: like you have to say koons zakonsh that those guys

1909
01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:15,519
Speaker 1: are developmental great athletes. I think in other drafts maybe

1910
01:33:15,560 --> 01:33:17,880
Speaker 1: they're tight end one or two in their drafts, but

1911
01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:20,080
Speaker 1: in this draft they get pushed all the way down

1912
01:33:20,160 --> 01:33:22,600
Speaker 1: the board to like tight end five or six on

1913
01:33:23,000 --> 01:33:27,240
Speaker 1: Day two. Those guys all have starter upside. Now I

1914
01:33:27,360 --> 01:33:29,920
Speaker 1: say starter upside. The tight end bar for starter is

1915
01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:32,559
Speaker 1: pretty danglow. Like to be one of the best thirty

1916
01:33:32,600 --> 01:33:34,280
Speaker 1: two tight ends in the league, it's not really the

1917
01:33:34,439 --> 01:33:37,360
Speaker 1: highest of bars. I don't know if they're top tier

1918
01:33:37,520 --> 01:33:39,400
Speaker 1: tight ends, but I think all those guys could hold

1919
01:33:39,439 --> 01:33:42,000
Speaker 1: down the position of being your starting tight end. And

1920
01:33:42,360 --> 01:33:44,559
Speaker 1: let's say two years one, Hunter Henry and John Smith

1921
01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:46,120
Speaker 1: are not here, I think they will take a tight

1922
01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:49,200
Speaker 1: end I don't know, probably in the middle round somewhere.

1923
01:33:49,560 --> 01:33:51,720
Speaker 1: I think they take a lot of tight ends. They

1924
01:33:51,800 --> 01:33:54,720
Speaker 1: tend to that's position they tend to look at um.

1925
01:33:55,840 --> 01:33:58,439
Speaker 1: But I don't like the idea of you know, like

1926
01:33:58,520 --> 01:34:00,479
Speaker 1: I know, kids the city did it just want a title.

1927
01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:02,600
Speaker 1: I don't like that idea. I think you have to

1928
01:34:02,680 --> 01:34:05,680
Speaker 1: have a really special guy like Gronk Well Kelsey to

1929
01:34:05,800 --> 01:34:09,120
Speaker 1: do that to have the tight end be your primary weapon. Yeah,

1930
01:34:09,400 --> 01:34:12,599
Speaker 1: that's sort of why I'm of a mid round option

1931
01:34:12,680 --> 01:34:14,519
Speaker 1: I think might be better, just because I don't know

1932
01:34:14,600 --> 01:34:17,880
Speaker 1: if Mayor is I don't Mayor's not gronk. Okay, I

1933
01:34:17,960 --> 01:34:20,040
Speaker 1: know he wears eighty seven. I know he's a big guy.

1934
01:34:20,200 --> 01:34:22,439
Speaker 1: You know he plays tight end. He's not gronk. And

1935
01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:24,720
Speaker 1: if he's not going to be like that though, a

1936
01:34:24,840 --> 01:34:26,800
Speaker 1: Notre Dame guy, Yeah, if he's not going to be

1937
01:34:26,880 --> 01:34:28,960
Speaker 1: that type of guy, then I think you there's so

1938
01:34:29,080 --> 01:34:32,520
Speaker 1: many mid round options in this draft. You know, Tucker Craft, Schoonmaker,

1939
01:34:33,160 --> 01:34:38,880
Speaker 1: Coons koa steak, Yeah right, yeah, yeah, yeah, serious. He

1940
01:34:38,960 --> 01:34:40,920
Speaker 1: was a serious football dude. Like you asked him a question.

1941
01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:43,400
Speaker 1: He's staring right at you. He of course, what did

1942
01:34:43,439 --> 01:34:45,000
Speaker 1: you just say? I said this on and he's I

1943
01:34:45,040 --> 01:34:46,840
Speaker 1: have like a thing that a serious football guy Like,

1944
01:34:46,880 --> 01:34:48,200
Speaker 1: it's like kind of the thing I'm like, this guy

1945
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:50,439
Speaker 1: is just he's very serious about football. Like it's like Dante,

1946
01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:52,679
Speaker 1: Hi Tower, Kyle Dugger, like guys who aren't really jokey.

1947
01:34:52,760 --> 01:34:54,479
Speaker 1: They just you ask him a football and they're like

1948
01:34:54,800 --> 01:34:57,960
Speaker 1: football does serious? This tight end colass More hang ups.

1949
01:34:57,960 --> 01:34:59,880
Speaker 1: But I haven't known about like four years not to hang.

1950
01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:02,960
Speaker 1: That's a bonus. That's a bonus. All right, Special Team's guide.

1951
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:05,200
Speaker 1: Just walk through the door, Paul, absolutely, Before we do that, though,

1952
01:35:05,280 --> 01:35:07,000
Speaker 1: we're going to give away a T shirt. Now, what

1953
01:35:07,040 --> 01:35:08,800
Speaker 1: are the rules? People have to email in correct? You

1954
01:35:08,840 --> 01:35:11,120
Speaker 1: have to email in the correct answer and um and

1955
01:35:11,280 --> 01:35:13,679
Speaker 1: Matt Murray dropped the wait till it's twenty five minutes

1956
01:35:13,760 --> 01:35:17,519
Speaker 1: left from the show, trying his best. Paul, Yeah, I'm

1957
01:35:17,560 --> 01:35:19,599
Speaker 1: doing my best here. I got all kinds of pressure.

1958
01:35:21,160 --> 01:35:23,080
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna go on. This is loosely related

1959
01:35:23,120 --> 01:35:25,680
Speaker 1: to today. If you've been listening the whole time, the

1960
01:35:25,720 --> 01:35:28,720
Speaker 1: answer was was said at one point, Um, but here

1961
01:35:28,760 --> 01:35:32,200
Speaker 1: it is which member of the media smelled so good

1962
01:35:32,600 --> 01:35:36,960
Speaker 1: that Megan O'Brien wanted to bottle it like perfume? Remember

1963
01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:38,840
Speaker 1: that one, Paul, I do. This was a classic day.

1964
01:35:38,920 --> 01:35:41,719
Speaker 1: I do as uh So, go ahead, email Matt Morrell.

1965
01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:44,519
Speaker 1: What is it web radio at Patriots dot com. Send

1966
01:35:44,560 --> 01:35:46,040
Speaker 1: it on in if you want to get a jump

1967
01:35:46,120 --> 01:35:49,320
Speaker 1: on punter kicker long snapper time. Now the time down,

1968
01:35:49,439 --> 01:35:51,240
Speaker 1: So yeah, we're welcoming in here. I think it's his

1969
01:35:51,280 --> 01:35:57,200
Speaker 1: first Patriots My station on Alex Barth, I have to say, Alex,

1970
01:35:57,280 --> 01:35:59,560
Speaker 1: it was a travesty that you were not at the

1971
01:35:59,640 --> 01:36:02,240
Speaker 1: Scout Combine. I feel like if Evan and I were there,

1972
01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:04,479
Speaker 1: you no one like you eat it up as much

1973
01:36:04,479 --> 01:36:06,240
Speaker 1: as we do. You should have been there. But I'm

1974
01:36:06,280 --> 01:36:08,759
Speaker 1: sure you were back here just getting all kinds of information.

1975
01:36:09,160 --> 01:36:11,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure Evan was feeding you some as well. UM,

1976
01:36:11,840 --> 01:36:13,800
Speaker 1: just first off before because we really want asked about

1977
01:36:13,800 --> 01:36:17,160
Speaker 1: special teams, what'd you take away from the combine? Takeaways? UM,

1978
01:36:17,360 --> 01:36:20,040
Speaker 1: I think that a lot of You know, sometimes you

1979
01:36:20,160 --> 01:36:21,920
Speaker 1: go into the combine and things change a lot. Like

1980
01:36:21,960 --> 01:36:24,160
Speaker 1: I remember last year the linebacker position, we were all

1981
01:36:24,200 --> 01:36:26,320
Speaker 1: super down on it and then everybody tested through the

1982
01:36:26,439 --> 01:36:28,120
Speaker 1: roof and all of a sudden it was WHOA look

1983
01:36:28,120 --> 01:36:31,080
Speaker 1: at this class. Uh. I think this year it was

1984
01:36:31,160 --> 01:36:33,200
Speaker 1: really just confirming a lot of what we already believed

1985
01:36:33,280 --> 01:36:37,360
Speaker 1: the strong positions corner, tight end, offensive line. Uh. Some

1986
01:36:37,479 --> 01:36:39,880
Speaker 1: of the positions we don't believe are as strong linebacker,

1987
01:36:40,200 --> 01:36:43,599
Speaker 1: wide receiver. It really felt like a lot of just Okay,

1988
01:36:43,680 --> 01:36:46,000
Speaker 1: the eye test this year watching these guys during the

1989
01:36:46,040 --> 01:36:49,479
Speaker 1: season turned out to be pretty much spot on. A

1990
01:36:49,560 --> 01:36:52,200
Speaker 1: lot of these guys are sort of what we expected. Oh,

1991
01:36:52,240 --> 01:36:55,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna Paul. It's got a question though about specially Okay,

1992
01:36:55,040 --> 01:37:00,240
Speaker 1: I made made him hold on, No, no, you want

1993
01:37:00,240 --> 01:37:02,479
Speaker 1: to ask, So I just threw it out there. Um,

1994
01:37:03,680 --> 01:37:08,200
Speaker 1: obviously there's a chance. But do you think the Patriots

1995
01:37:08,240 --> 01:37:13,880
Speaker 1: will turn over all three spots of specialists? Oh? That's well,

1996
01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:18,519
Speaker 1: so it's exciting. Thank you for the question. Okay, I'm

1997
01:37:18,520 --> 01:37:21,320
Speaker 1: gonna go back to my office, kicker. I think there's

1998
01:37:21,320 --> 01:37:25,120
Speaker 1: a good chancey punter. It depends if if with the

1999
01:37:26,560 --> 01:37:29,000
Speaker 1: Jake Bailey's appealing that suspension, right, so, we haven't gotten

2000
01:37:29,000 --> 01:37:31,320
Speaker 1: any update on that. It's it would be tough to

2001
01:37:31,400 --> 01:37:34,040
Speaker 1: move on from him if he wins that appeal and

2002
01:37:34,120 --> 01:37:37,479
Speaker 1: that money goes back on the books. So TVD on

2003
01:37:37,560 --> 01:37:39,960
Speaker 1: that one. But like if he loses that and there's

2004
01:37:40,000 --> 01:37:43,479
Speaker 1: no guaranteed money, I could see it and they Tucker

2005
01:37:43,560 --> 01:37:45,320
Speaker 1: Addington was the long snapper they signed late in the

2006
01:37:45,360 --> 01:37:46,920
Speaker 1: year last year, right, they sign him too, a multi

2007
01:37:47,000 --> 01:37:50,640
Speaker 1: year deal. So does that countess turning over if it's him,

2008
01:37:52,560 --> 01:37:56,439
Speaker 1: it's not Folk Bailey, Joe Cardona disrespect coming from Barth

2009
01:37:56,560 --> 01:37:59,280
Speaker 1: right now. No, I'm just I'm just asking that's a

2010
01:37:59,320 --> 01:38:02,800
Speaker 1: fair question, adding to finish the year. But I'm saying,

2011
01:38:03,360 --> 01:38:07,000
Speaker 1: no Bailey, no Cardona. I think there's a chance. I

2012
01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:10,439
Speaker 1: definitely think there's a chance. Cardona would be the most

2013
01:38:10,479 --> 01:38:12,240
Speaker 1: surprising one to me, even though he is the only

2014
01:38:12,280 --> 01:38:14,720
Speaker 1: one that doesn't have a contract. Um, you know, kind

2015
01:38:14,720 --> 01:38:16,160
Speaker 1: of when we get to the end of the summer,

2016
01:38:16,640 --> 01:38:19,599
Speaker 1: we're still here. He did go Navy. I think they're

2017
01:38:19,720 --> 01:38:23,240
Speaker 1: day Mike, I didn't. We weren't aware of that. Did

2018
01:38:23,280 --> 01:38:26,519
Speaker 1: he play lacrosse? No? If you're gonna overturn the other two,

2019
01:38:26,800 --> 01:38:29,960
Speaker 1: like we, chemistry is so important right between those three spots.

2020
01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:32,200
Speaker 1: And to have three brand new guys, and if two

2021
01:38:32,200 --> 01:38:34,960
Speaker 1: of them are gonna be rookies, that's asking a lot.

2022
01:38:35,120 --> 01:38:37,479
Speaker 1: So uh, if it was last year, I'd feel a

2023
01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:39,240
Speaker 1: lot better because last year there was actually a long

2024
01:38:39,280 --> 01:38:42,840
Speaker 1: snapper in the draft who was like draftable. Yeah, this year,

2025
01:38:46,160 --> 01:38:47,360
Speaker 1: what do you think it looks like? Though? I mean,

2026
01:38:47,360 --> 01:38:49,479
Speaker 1: you signed Jake Bailey that extension last year? I mean,

2027
01:38:49,520 --> 01:38:51,320
Speaker 1: does that really if you if you don't bring him

2028
01:38:51,360 --> 01:38:54,080
Speaker 1: back this year after signing to to that extension. How

2029
01:38:54,120 --> 01:38:56,080
Speaker 1: he's been kind of playing, He's been injured a little bit.

2030
01:38:56,160 --> 01:38:58,360
Speaker 1: He wasn't really in the lineup last year, it looks

2031
01:38:58,360 --> 01:39:00,160
Speaker 1: pretty bad, right, you gotta you gotta move on from

2032
01:39:00,240 --> 01:39:02,760
Speaker 1: him a year after signing him to that extension. Is

2033
01:39:02,800 --> 01:39:05,120
Speaker 1: that any kind of consideration of, like, I mean, we

2034
01:39:05,200 --> 01:39:06,680
Speaker 1: just just signed this guy, like they must have liked

2035
01:39:06,720 --> 01:39:09,200
Speaker 1: something about him, and I give you a little they

2036
01:39:09,360 --> 01:39:11,280
Speaker 1: didn't really want to give him that contract for the

2037
01:39:11,320 --> 01:39:13,800
Speaker 1: first place. Kind of well, and thank you very much.

2038
01:39:14,680 --> 01:39:16,679
Speaker 1: Statistically though, he's been like one of the worst punters

2039
01:39:16,680 --> 01:39:18,680
Speaker 1: in the league for two years and they still gave

2040
01:39:18,760 --> 01:39:22,040
Speaker 1: him the contracts in a very weird contract. Last twenty

2041
01:39:22,120 --> 01:39:24,240
Speaker 1: twenty one wasn't as bad last year. He was bottom

2042
01:39:24,360 --> 01:39:28,040
Speaker 1: three in most major last ye good. And I just

2043
01:39:28,080 --> 01:39:30,720
Speaker 1: gotta say, we do have an answer. We do have

2044
01:39:30,800 --> 01:39:33,760
Speaker 1: a winning answer. Um and uh to the person who

2045
01:39:33,800 --> 01:39:37,320
Speaker 1: wrote in Greg Bdard, how dare you? Um? Uh, it

2046
01:39:37,439 --> 01:39:40,920
Speaker 1: looks like Addison that was tongue in cheek Addison Ankram

2047
01:39:41,280 --> 01:39:44,080
Speaker 1: from Fresno looks like he won with Mike Giardi. Yes,

2048
01:39:44,160 --> 01:39:46,880
Speaker 1: Mike Giardi was the Uh forgot that was a fun day.

2049
01:39:46,920 --> 01:39:48,599
Speaker 1: I remember chatting about that and she's like, I wish

2050
01:39:48,600 --> 01:39:50,000
Speaker 1: I could just bar And then it became a whole

2051
01:39:50,040 --> 01:39:51,840
Speaker 1: like we were doing a whole ad of like Mike

2052
01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:55,880
Speaker 1: Grd like U curious it was spons I'm just sure

2053
01:39:56,040 --> 01:40:00,720
Speaker 1: he's just a little curious. Oh boy, Jake in his head,

2054
01:40:00,880 --> 01:40:05,839
Speaker 1: this is not football. No, No, Mike Giordi smells wonderful. Absolutely,

2055
01:40:05,920 --> 01:40:09,160
Speaker 1: he's a great guy. I'm not gonna say so good.

2056
01:40:09,240 --> 01:40:11,839
Speaker 1: I can actually smell him through the TV when he's hosting.

2057
01:40:12,439 --> 01:40:14,880
Speaker 1: Can I ask Alex one more real football question? And

2058
01:40:14,960 --> 01:40:18,840
Speaker 1: not about Miciardi sent? Okay, I know it's we all

2059
01:40:18,880 --> 01:40:22,040
Speaker 1: know Jake Moody, Yeah, we all know Michael Turk. Yeah,

2060
01:40:22,120 --> 01:40:25,840
Speaker 1: your guy who Who's who's the Who's the second best

2061
01:40:25,920 --> 01:40:28,040
Speaker 1: kicker and the second best punter in the draft. So

2062
01:40:29,400 --> 01:40:31,760
Speaker 1: for them, right because they like kickers you've kicked in

2063
01:40:31,800 --> 01:40:34,200
Speaker 1: cold weather and all that. Um, I think it's between

2064
01:40:34,240 --> 01:40:36,880
Speaker 1: Noah Ruggles from Ohio State and Chad Ryland of Maryland.

2065
01:40:36,920 --> 01:40:39,280
Speaker 1: Who are the two Senior Bowl kickers. The Maryland guy

2066
01:40:39,400 --> 01:40:41,320
Speaker 1: is the one that Callahan had it. I was gonna say,

2067
01:40:41,360 --> 01:40:44,519
Speaker 1: I like Ryland. I he got put in some tough spots.

2068
01:40:44,600 --> 01:40:46,240
Speaker 1: There's a lot of close games, so he's kind of

2069
01:40:46,280 --> 01:40:49,479
Speaker 1: got that thing where he's kicked some clutch kicks. You're

2070
01:40:49,479 --> 01:40:52,360
Speaker 1: the Ohio State kicker. There's not that much riding on you, right,

2071
01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:57,040
Speaker 1: so sixty and when there was yeah, he didn't even

2072
01:40:57,320 --> 01:40:58,960
Speaker 1: yeah didn't didn't he miss the kick? In the college

2073
01:40:59,000 --> 01:41:02,080
Speaker 1: football players, you're right at midnight at midnight that was

2074
01:41:03,160 --> 01:41:04,559
Speaker 1: I just want to let everybody know. I was at

2075
01:41:04,560 --> 01:41:06,040
Speaker 1: a wedding then. I don't know if I've gotten that

2076
01:41:06,120 --> 01:41:09,120
Speaker 1: off my chest enough. Oh no, who We were both

2077
01:41:09,200 --> 01:41:11,240
Speaker 1: watching at the same time, and I was just like

2078
01:41:11,439 --> 01:41:14,320
Speaker 1: two classics. And because they like milk the clock to

2079
01:41:14,400 --> 01:41:16,240
Speaker 1: give him the like, they didn't even try to get

2080
01:41:16,880 --> 01:41:18,479
Speaker 1: probably could have picked up some more yards. They just

2081
01:41:18,520 --> 01:41:20,320
Speaker 1: wanted to kick it. They wanted to kick to line up.

2082
01:41:20,360 --> 01:41:22,800
Speaker 1: If you watch it, somebody sync it up. He kicks

2083
01:41:22,880 --> 01:41:26,679
Speaker 1: the ball like as Midnight hits. That's what they cared about.

2084
01:41:26,760 --> 01:41:29,400
Speaker 1: The shots. There's shots at parties of people. It's the

2085
01:41:29,520 --> 01:41:32,519
Speaker 1: most patriots thing ever. Only they get it. They got cute.

2086
01:41:32,520 --> 01:41:34,519
Speaker 1: They're like, yeah, if you start dark side of the

2087
01:41:34,600 --> 01:41:39,040
Speaker 1: mood right at the third quarter, yeah, build the ball dropped.

2088
01:41:39,200 --> 01:41:41,320
Speaker 1: I was that New year party. Did you see his

2089
01:41:41,439 --> 01:41:44,400
Speaker 1: balls dropped? And then he kicked the field goal right

2090
01:41:44,479 --> 01:41:46,439
Speaker 1: as the ball dropped. I was at a New Year's

2091
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Speaker 1: party and there was some of us that cuddled around

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Speaker 1: a foam in the corner watching the game, and we

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01:41:50,280 --> 01:41:52,479
Speaker 1: all start cheering and we hear everybody else. We're like,

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01:41:52,600 --> 01:41:54,679
Speaker 1: did you turn the game on? They're like, no, it's midnight.

2095
01:41:54,960 --> 01:42:00,519
Speaker 1: You were like, oh, as for the pud his football

2096
01:42:00,800 --> 01:42:02,880
Speaker 1: had a lot of New Years parties watching those college

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01:42:02,920 --> 01:42:04,519
Speaker 1: football They need to move it off. I can't wait.

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01:42:04,560 --> 01:42:06,080
Speaker 1: They need to move it off midnight New Year's or

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Speaker 1: New Year's Eve, New Year's Day, Fine, that's fun New

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Speaker 1: Year's Eve. Not somebody. You know, if I was just

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01:42:10,800 --> 01:42:14,759
Speaker 1: complaining about the timing of the game, someone you're losing

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Speaker 1: your They get he's watching when it coincides for the weekend,

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01:42:19,800 --> 01:42:22,240
Speaker 1: because then the NFL is obviously going to get the

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01:42:22,360 --> 01:42:26,120
Speaker 1: precedence of the day, right, They won't. It's better when

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Speaker 1: they can move it off New Year's Eve punter punter

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Speaker 1: Bryce Berenger from Michigan State had a really you don't

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Speaker 1: like the Rutgers punter. I like the Rucker. He's he's third.

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Speaker 1: You asked me who the second best was. I thought

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Speaker 1: Bearinger had a really good well because Mike and I

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01:42:41,479 --> 01:42:43,840
Speaker 1: talked to the Rutgers punter because like there's a punter

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Speaker 1: from Rutgers and the Patriots might need a punter. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And he was talking about Corsic is his name right, Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And he was talking about how he's an Auzzi style punter,

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01:42:54,080 --> 01:42:56,880
Speaker 1: but he also has the regular punter in his bag too,

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01:42:57,200 --> 01:42:58,840
Speaker 1: so he can like change it up on you. He

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01:42:58,920 --> 01:43:00,960
Speaker 1: can do line drive and boom it like he can

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01:43:01,000 --> 01:43:03,800
Speaker 1: do everything. I'm like, oh, that's like a Bill Belichick.

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Speaker 1: Here's remember bat Rutgers that they haven't drafted a player

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Speaker 1: from Rutgers and over a decade. Yeah, it's like this

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01:43:08,920 --> 01:43:10,880
Speaker 1: thing people say it. Look if there's a year to

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01:43:10,920 --> 01:43:12,880
Speaker 1: do it. There's a couple of good Rutgers players this year.

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01:43:13,040 --> 01:43:17,519
Speaker 1: But it's like we're all in on on Picheco bow Melton,

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01:43:17,800 --> 01:43:19,920
Speaker 1: right like other Rutgers guys. Last year that they didn't

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01:43:19,960 --> 01:43:22,320
Speaker 1: drast would have been a year we're gonna be good

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Speaker 1: at Wait in the show, all right, let's let's run

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Speaker 1: back to the phone's here real quick because we're coming

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Speaker 1: down the home stretch here on a Thursday show. Let's

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Speaker 1: go over to RAJ and Boston. Hey, Rob Harty, dang it,

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01:43:33,880 --> 01:43:36,439
Speaker 1: Jow Patty hung on for like forty minutes and rog

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01:43:36,479 --> 01:43:39,559
Speaker 1: could only you only make about ten minutes. Uh, well,

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01:43:39,600 --> 01:43:41,680
Speaker 1: I'm in films out too. I read your email and

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01:43:41,880 --> 01:43:44,599
Speaker 1: and that's what you give me. Thanks for nothing. Uh finally,

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Speaker 1: Jerry from North Carolina. Hello Jerry there. He is at

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Speaker 1: work right now, but I have that luxury Um Jerry quick,

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01:43:59,520 --> 01:44:03,280
Speaker 1: um question. So what do you all think about? Um?

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01:44:03,400 --> 01:44:06,320
Speaker 1: The Patriots just going all in just for one year?

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01:44:06,479 --> 01:44:10,479
Speaker 1: Just go all in and sign d Hop and Odell

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01:44:10,640 --> 01:44:14,080
Speaker 1: give him both three years sixty million dollar deals. That's

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01:44:14,600 --> 01:44:19,120
Speaker 1: fully instantive based based off of their performance and contribution

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01:44:19,280 --> 01:44:22,560
Speaker 1: to the team. Well, I mean, I'm all in on

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01:44:22,640 --> 01:44:23,960
Speaker 1: d Hop. I don't. I'll let you guys jump on

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01:44:24,000 --> 01:44:25,800
Speaker 1: the other ones. But I'd take Tea Hop for sure.

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Speaker 1: I mean Odell I take I would take him. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if you get both. I don't. Yeah, I

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01:44:29,720 --> 01:44:32,720
Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna sign both. Thanks you. He We

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01:44:33,360 --> 01:44:36,320
Speaker 1: had many of debates about Hunter Henry versus Johnny Smith,

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01:44:36,360 --> 01:44:38,240
Speaker 1: and they ended up signing both. I'm just saying I

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01:44:38,320 --> 01:44:43,800
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know about Odell Odell. That one

2149
01:44:43,880 --> 01:44:46,920
Speaker 1: worries me a little bit coming off the injury. How

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01:44:47,040 --> 01:44:49,320
Speaker 1: much does he really have left in the tank. I'm

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01:44:49,360 --> 01:44:51,800
Speaker 1: willing to take a flyer on him if it's sort

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01:44:51,840 --> 01:44:54,680
Speaker 1: of a pay as you go type of contrary and

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01:44:54,760 --> 01:44:58,960
Speaker 1: incentive to use his um Jerry's example, I mean, Odell

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01:44:59,000 --> 01:45:00,840
Speaker 1: Beckham might be in a position and where he's not

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Speaker 1: going to get the guaranteed money. He might have to

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01:45:02,680 --> 01:45:06,519
Speaker 1: take that. Hopkins isn't. No, well, Hopkins, is he giving

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01:45:06,560 --> 01:45:07,960
Speaker 1: you a break? So he was on one of the

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01:45:08,000 --> 01:45:11,040
Speaker 1: shows yesterday and he mentioned that he's he's not necessarily

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01:45:11,080 --> 01:45:14,080
Speaker 1: even looking for a new contract, which isn't a bad

2160
01:45:14,160 --> 01:45:16,280
Speaker 1: thing for the team that acquires him, because his contract

2161
01:45:16,320 --> 01:45:18,439
Speaker 1: is pretty reasonable for the team that's trading for him.

2162
01:45:18,520 --> 01:45:21,960
Speaker 1: But he's not necessarily in the boat of you need

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01:45:22,040 --> 01:45:25,200
Speaker 1: to trade for me and then give me a whole

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01:45:25,280 --> 01:45:28,040
Speaker 1: new contract. Actually I believe, Yeah, it's not in the

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Speaker 1: business of giving money back. No, and incentives are giving

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Speaker 1: money back. No. No, I think you're playing you're trading

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01:45:34,920 --> 01:45:37,080
Speaker 1: for Hopkins. I think you're trading for him on that

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Speaker 1: contract that I think it's like two years, fifty four million,

2169
01:45:40,280 --> 01:45:43,280
Speaker 1: but not all of it's guaranteed. His year one cap

2170
01:45:43,360 --> 01:45:45,120
Speaker 1: hit this year I think would be a little bit

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01:45:45,160 --> 01:45:48,840
Speaker 1: over nineteen million. If you were to acquire him. I

2172
01:45:48,920 --> 01:45:52,120
Speaker 1: think that's what you're looking at. Hopkins. Well, my apologize

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01:45:52,160 --> 01:45:54,080
Speaker 1: to Rage because he was actually just calling in to

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Speaker 1: get a jump on catch twenty two. He don't want

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Speaker 1: to talk to us, Paul. He's waiting for these two

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01:45:57,240 --> 01:45:59,479
Speaker 1: guys right here. So he's going to hang out for

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Speaker 1: a little bit about fifteen minutes and he'll he'll wait

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01:46:01,400 --> 01:46:05,960
Speaker 1: hopefully you guys can get to him. The women, Um,

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Speaker 1: couple couple more emails here, question um, and I like

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01:46:09,760 --> 01:46:12,479
Speaker 1: this one. Is it possible? This is from Peter? Uh?

2181
01:46:13,040 --> 01:46:15,120
Speaker 1: Is it possible? Bill trades back in the first round

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01:46:15,160 --> 01:46:17,400
Speaker 1: to mid twenties, grabs a bunch of picks and then

2183
01:46:17,520 --> 01:46:22,679
Speaker 1: grabs a Darryl Darnell Wright. Uh, feel better? Don't gives

2184
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Speaker 1: them a chance to beef up second, third or fourth

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01:46:25,280 --> 01:46:29,320
Speaker 1: round picks for Kountz, Jack Campbell, Mouk and some six

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Speaker 1: one cornerbacks. I mean, I talked a little about with

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01:46:32,600 --> 01:46:34,439
Speaker 1: with you about this where it seems like you could

2188
01:46:34,479 --> 01:46:36,160
Speaker 1: get to that point at fourteen and you feel like,

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01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:38,519
Speaker 1: I don't really like any of the tackles. I'm not

2190
01:46:38,640 --> 01:46:42,040
Speaker 1: really sold. Maybe on Joey Porter Junior. Christian Gonzalez has

2191
01:46:42,040 --> 01:46:44,720
Speaker 1: already gone and it's way too early to take JSN

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01:46:44,840 --> 01:46:47,680
Speaker 1: or any of the receivers. Um, I could kind of

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01:46:47,720 --> 01:46:51,320
Speaker 1: see it, right, I mean they could definitely. This is

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Speaker 1: a classic Belichick trade down draft. I hate that, like

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Speaker 1: I hate that. That's that we're making it this easy

2196
01:46:57,880 --> 01:47:00,240
Speaker 1: on him to do what he wants to do. But yeah,

2197
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Speaker 1: this is a classic Belichick trade down draft in my mind.

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Speaker 1: Do you say that? I mean, I agree, But do

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Speaker 1: you say that because of the positions that the Patriots

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01:47:07,479 --> 01:47:12,680
Speaker 1: are looking for specifically, or because of the talent available specifically? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at it more of we go back to

2202
01:47:15,439 --> 01:47:17,759
Speaker 1: the blue chip thing, right Like. That's why I'm asking

2203
01:47:17,880 --> 01:47:20,120
Speaker 1: that at fourteen, I want them to come away with

2204
01:47:20,240 --> 01:47:24,680
Speaker 1: a premium talent, like, not somebody that is get a

2205
01:47:24,720 --> 01:47:27,000
Speaker 1: fillow role for them and might be a good player

2206
01:47:27,040 --> 01:47:30,160
Speaker 1: throughout the course of his rookie contract. I want them

2207
01:47:30,240 --> 01:47:33,160
Speaker 1: to be in the market for somebody at fourteen that

2208
01:47:33,280 --> 01:47:35,280
Speaker 1: we are giving a second contract too, and we're not

2209
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Speaker 1: at thinking twice about it, right like that That's the

2210
01:47:37,720 --> 01:47:39,640
Speaker 1: way that it should be looked at. And if you

2211
01:47:39,760 --> 01:47:42,320
Speaker 1: move down the board, yeah, maybe Darnell right oho, I

2212
01:47:42,439 --> 01:47:45,000
Speaker 1: love ends up being your right tackle, and he's a

2213
01:47:45,080 --> 01:47:48,160
Speaker 1: stud and everything works out perfectly fine. But I would

2214
01:47:48,280 --> 01:47:50,960
Speaker 1: much rather stick at fourteen and even take a player

2215
01:47:51,560 --> 01:47:55,160
Speaker 1: that is not necessarily a major, major need, but it's

2216
01:47:55,160 --> 01:47:58,040
Speaker 1: still somebody that is in that category of he's just

2217
01:47:58,160 --> 01:47:59,920
Speaker 1: going to be a star. Yeah, So the other part

2218
01:48:00,200 --> 01:48:02,439
Speaker 1: part two of this, wait a second, you haven't heard

2219
01:48:02,439 --> 01:48:06,639
Speaker 1: it yet, don't give up. Um. A lot of people

2220
01:48:06,840 --> 01:48:09,960
Speaker 1: have said the blue chip thing, there's not a ton

2221
01:48:10,040 --> 01:48:12,760
Speaker 1: of high end talent in this draft, right. I think

2222
01:48:12,840 --> 01:48:15,360
Speaker 1: most Moost experts are an agreement on that. What do

2223
01:48:15,439 --> 01:48:17,960
Speaker 1: they say about the overall depth of the draft the

2224
01:48:18,600 --> 01:48:20,320
Speaker 1: class itself? But there were a lot of good players

2225
01:48:20,720 --> 01:48:23,800
Speaker 1: or yeah, I think at certain positions, like Alex was

2226
01:48:23,840 --> 01:48:26,120
Speaker 1: saying with the combine, you look at corner, you look

2227
01:48:26,160 --> 01:48:29,240
Speaker 1: at tight end, I think tackle those guys, a lot

2228
01:48:29,280 --> 01:48:31,439
Speaker 1: of them are moving up the board now into the

2229
01:48:31,479 --> 01:48:34,320
Speaker 1: first round conversation. Like Darnel Right a month ago was

2230
01:48:34,360 --> 01:48:36,559
Speaker 1: a second round pick. He had a great senior bowl,

2231
01:48:36,680 --> 01:48:38,720
Speaker 1: had a great combine. Now all of a sudden he's

2232
01:48:38,720 --> 01:48:41,400
Speaker 1: like the end of the first round, early second I

2233
01:48:41,560 --> 01:48:44,120
Speaker 1: think tackle has some really good a talent in the

2234
01:48:44,160 --> 01:48:46,760
Speaker 1: first fifty picks. I don't know about the depth, and

2235
01:48:46,880 --> 01:48:49,439
Speaker 1: then I would also point to edge, like Alexe, I

2236
01:48:49,479 --> 01:48:51,560
Speaker 1: mean we've looked at Edge, maybe not as like a

2237
01:48:51,680 --> 01:48:54,599
Speaker 1: big need for the Patriots, but you look at top

2238
01:48:54,680 --> 01:48:59,439
Speaker 1: fifty like maybe it's really really talked highly. Yeah, it

2239
01:48:59,600 --> 01:49:04,840
Speaker 1: was Corners tight ends Edge because Edge has in this draft,

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Speaker 1: like you mentioned, like there's not a ton of those

2241
01:49:07,160 --> 01:49:10,760
Speaker 1: big you know, there's no Jamar Chase at receiver, there's

2242
01:49:10,840 --> 01:49:13,760
Speaker 1: no there's no those plays. But Will Anderson is one

2243
01:49:13,800 --> 01:49:16,240
Speaker 1: of those guys at edge. And then it goes all

2244
01:49:16,240 --> 01:49:18,320
Speaker 1: the way back into the second and third round with

2245
01:49:18,520 --> 01:49:20,960
Speaker 1: options there as well. So I think the edge is

2246
01:49:20,960 --> 01:49:23,479
Speaker 1: a really strong class as well. This is a classic

2247
01:49:23,720 --> 01:49:27,080
Speaker 1: Fred and Paul day two ish of the draft argument.

2248
01:49:27,560 --> 01:49:29,240
Speaker 1: You know, just to get us through when we're you know,

2249
01:49:29,280 --> 01:49:31,040
Speaker 1: we're starting, you know, it's starting to hit in the

2250
01:49:31,120 --> 01:49:35,800
Speaker 1: five hour energies have worn off. That's a very common thing.

2251
01:49:35,920 --> 01:49:38,600
Speaker 1: Let's trade down, Alex, Right, let's let's move down and

2252
01:49:38,720 --> 01:49:41,200
Speaker 1: get extra picks. And I always say, well that that's

2253
01:49:41,240 --> 01:49:44,479
Speaker 1: great in theory, and I like the idea, but now

2254
01:49:44,520 --> 01:49:46,519
Speaker 1: you're telling you're telling me that the overall strength of

2255
01:49:46,600 --> 01:49:49,400
Speaker 1: this class isn't great. So now we're gonna add more

2256
01:49:49,439 --> 01:49:52,000
Speaker 1: picks and are not so great, you know, top end

2257
01:49:52,040 --> 01:49:55,000
Speaker 1: of the draft. Or the second part of that is,

2258
01:49:56,439 --> 01:49:58,240
Speaker 1: if I have a lot of picks, like the Patriots

2259
01:49:58,280 --> 01:50:01,639
Speaker 1: typically do and certainly do this year with eleven, why

2260
01:50:01,720 --> 01:50:03,519
Speaker 1: not package some of those picks to move up a

2261
01:50:03,600 --> 01:50:05,960
Speaker 1: little bit. And I'm not saying from fourteen you don't

2262
01:50:05,960 --> 01:50:09,120
Speaker 1: have to make like a big splash trade, but why

2263
01:50:09,200 --> 01:50:11,639
Speaker 1: not take a couple of year lower picks and move

2264
01:50:11,760 --> 01:50:15,200
Speaker 1: up and better ensure that you get what a lot

2265
01:50:15,240 --> 01:50:18,639
Speaker 1: of people say is a smaller class of high end talent. Well,

2266
01:50:18,760 --> 01:50:21,640
Speaker 1: let me give you in terms of trading up. You

2267
01:50:21,760 --> 01:50:23,800
Speaker 1: talking about this is a classic Bill Belichick trade down

2268
01:50:23,840 --> 01:50:25,920
Speaker 1: in the first draft. Yeah, I see it. I understand

2269
01:50:25,920 --> 01:50:29,040
Speaker 1: what people are talking. I also think it really the

2270
01:50:29,160 --> 01:50:32,880
Speaker 1: class really suggests towards making one of those Christian Barmore trades.

2271
01:50:33,160 --> 01:50:34,960
Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be a lot of players who

2272
01:50:34,960 --> 01:50:37,040
Speaker 1: are good, who they would like, who are going to

2273
01:50:37,080 --> 01:50:39,360
Speaker 1: go in that like thirty two to forty ranges. Guys

2274
01:50:39,400 --> 01:50:42,800
Speaker 1: like Darnelle Washington, Guys like Jimir Gibbs, Right, players like that,

2275
01:50:43,000 --> 01:50:46,760
Speaker 1: Josh Downs, the wide receiver from UNC. So do they

2276
01:50:46,840 --> 01:50:49,920
Speaker 1: make a move maybe up in the second round and round.

2277
01:50:50,160 --> 01:50:52,040
Speaker 1: The other thing I'd say, in terms of the trading

2278
01:50:52,080 --> 01:50:56,160
Speaker 1: the pick in trading down. So if they make the

2279
01:50:56,240 --> 01:50:58,000
Speaker 1: move for Hopkins, right, it sounds like the price is

2280
01:50:58,000 --> 01:51:00,320
Speaker 1: gonna be a second round pick. Do they try to

2281
01:51:00,400 --> 01:51:02,800
Speaker 1: do a best of both worlds thing? You trade forty

2282
01:51:02,880 --> 01:51:05,759
Speaker 1: six for Hopkins, You then trade down from like fourteen

2283
01:51:05,800 --> 01:51:08,320
Speaker 1: to twenty and get bat for a pick back in

2284
01:51:08,360 --> 01:51:10,200
Speaker 1: the top fifty. So you still have your first and

2285
01:51:10,280 --> 01:51:12,560
Speaker 1: second and you get Hopkins. You just moved down a

2286
01:51:12,600 --> 01:51:14,360
Speaker 1: little in the first That's sort of what I didn't

2287
01:51:14,360 --> 01:51:16,519
Speaker 1: want to throw too many trades into my mock draft

2288
01:51:16,600 --> 01:51:19,519
Speaker 1: and get too crazy with it. But that's kind of

2289
01:51:19,600 --> 01:51:22,200
Speaker 1: where I was going with it. Is because I think

2290
01:51:22,240 --> 01:51:25,719
Speaker 1: Anton Harrison is a perfect guy that I would probably

2291
01:51:26,600 --> 01:51:29,360
Speaker 1: rather take in the twenties. But I'm but he's talented

2292
01:51:29,479 --> 01:51:31,639
Speaker 1: enough if you have to take him at fourteen, I'd

2293
01:51:31,640 --> 01:51:33,960
Speaker 1: be okay with him at fourteen, But you moved down

2294
01:51:34,320 --> 01:51:37,320
Speaker 1: taking Anton Harrison. Take a Darnel right, take a Dwan Jones,

2295
01:51:37,360 --> 01:51:40,200
Speaker 1: who we both really like from Ohio State in the twenties,

2296
01:51:40,560 --> 01:51:42,479
Speaker 1: and then maybe replenish some of the picks that you

2297
01:51:42,560 --> 01:51:44,880
Speaker 1: get from trading for a receiver like Hopkins. I just

2298
01:51:44,960 --> 01:51:47,000
Speaker 1: think you look at those three fourth round picks, which

2299
01:51:47,000 --> 01:51:49,839
Speaker 1: are you know, kind of sporadic, and you can package

2300
01:51:49,880 --> 01:51:52,080
Speaker 1: that second round or with one of those fourths and

2301
01:51:52,200 --> 01:51:54,960
Speaker 1: really get wherever you want in the second round. So yeah,

2302
01:51:54,960 --> 01:51:57,120
Speaker 1: I think that the potentials there. That's what I did,

2303
01:51:57,320 --> 01:51:59,479
Speaker 1: and my mock was, I went up to get somebody

2304
01:51:59,520 --> 01:52:02,240
Speaker 1: that you really like in that early for Balmore, I

2305
01:52:02,280 --> 01:52:04,040
Speaker 1: think it was a second and two fifths, is that

2306
01:52:04,120 --> 01:52:06,040
Speaker 1: what it was. I think that it might have been

2307
01:52:06,080 --> 01:52:07,960
Speaker 1: a second and two fourths. But like they can, we

2308
01:52:08,080 --> 01:52:11,439
Speaker 1: love the trade ups, they have elimination, you know, we

2309
01:52:11,479 --> 01:52:13,519
Speaker 1: don't love a lot of six and seventh round picks,

2310
01:52:13,560 --> 01:52:15,519
Speaker 1: and they got about four of them, right, they don't

2311
01:52:15,560 --> 01:52:18,839
Speaker 1: have any seventh they have one. Well they're projective projected

2312
01:52:19,720 --> 01:52:23,240
Speaker 1: so well that well, that was really where they got Paul.

2313
01:52:23,320 --> 01:52:25,080
Speaker 1: This is one time where it didn't all work out

2314
01:52:25,160 --> 01:52:28,519
Speaker 1: for the Patriots, Okay, because J. C. Jackson was supposed

2315
01:52:28,520 --> 01:52:31,200
Speaker 1: to be JAC Jackson was supposed to be a third

2316
01:52:31,320 --> 01:52:33,400
Speaker 1: round comp pick when he was supposed to be the

2317
01:52:33,479 --> 01:52:38,240
Speaker 1: top Yeah, now they're gonna probably get a fourth round

2318
01:52:38,320 --> 01:52:40,519
Speaker 1: comp pick for jac because he didn't play. Because you're

2319
01:52:40,560 --> 01:52:43,080
Speaker 1: not play okay, which I don't think is fair. Like

2320
01:52:43,200 --> 01:52:46,240
Speaker 1: he gave him the contract like that, the compis a

2321
01:52:46,320 --> 01:52:48,280
Speaker 1: base on the contract because you lost the guy, like

2322
01:52:48,479 --> 01:52:51,040
Speaker 1: I'm sorry Chargers that he didn't play, Like that's not,

2323
01:52:51,240 --> 01:52:54,519
Speaker 1: that's not. Our problems in general are in my top

2324
01:52:54,600 --> 01:52:57,640
Speaker 1: five of the worst things about football. I like the compis.

2325
01:52:58,040 --> 01:53:01,439
Speaker 1: I think it's absurd that you encourage teams to let

2326
01:53:01,479 --> 01:53:04,120
Speaker 1: their players go. So you say, I'm going to give

2327
01:53:04,160 --> 01:53:07,240
Speaker 1: you extra draft picks because you don't want to pay

2328
01:53:07,280 --> 01:53:09,200
Speaker 1: your players and you're just gonna let them go. But

2329
01:53:09,320 --> 01:53:12,360
Speaker 1: it's like Baseball, like how many times in that like

2330
01:53:12,520 --> 01:53:15,080
Speaker 1: the last ten fifteen years, and they've altered some of

2331
01:53:15,120 --> 01:53:18,040
Speaker 1: these rules because of it with all baseball drafts. You

2332
01:53:18,160 --> 01:53:20,120
Speaker 1: try to explain the baseball drafts, if you make a

2333
01:53:20,240 --> 01:53:22,519
Speaker 1: qualifying offer to a guy you know, then you can

2334
01:53:22,560 --> 01:53:25,040
Speaker 1: just let them go. Well, why should you reward a

2335
01:53:25,080 --> 01:53:28,280
Speaker 1: team for letting diffree agents go. Yeah, I understand where

2336
01:53:28,320 --> 01:53:30,320
Speaker 1: you're coming from. But if they get that, if that

2337
01:53:30,439 --> 01:53:32,519
Speaker 1: compic does hit at the end of the fourth round,

2338
01:53:34,520 --> 01:53:36,639
Speaker 1: it's kind of a free pick, like you just here

2339
01:53:36,680 --> 01:53:39,080
Speaker 1: you go, like, here's a fourth round pick, and if

2340
01:53:39,120 --> 01:53:40,920
Speaker 1: you end up putting that into a deal where you

2341
01:53:41,040 --> 01:53:43,439
Speaker 1: package something to either move up or it goes to

2342
01:53:43,520 --> 01:53:45,920
Speaker 1: Arizona for DeAndre Hot Like I don't hate that, Like

2343
01:53:46,040 --> 01:53:49,200
Speaker 1: it's not really You still have two other fourth round picks,

2344
01:53:49,280 --> 01:53:51,280
Speaker 1: by the way, that you can use in the fourth round.

2345
01:53:51,360 --> 01:53:53,840
Speaker 1: They're projected to have eleven picks. You should be able

2346
01:53:53,880 --> 01:53:56,840
Speaker 1: to do a lot of Bill Belichick maneuvering. I also

2347
01:53:56,880 --> 01:53:58,479
Speaker 1: think it's kind of too many picks, Like if you

2348
01:53:58,560 --> 01:54:00,360
Speaker 1: just look at the amount of guy that they have

2349
01:54:00,439 --> 01:54:02,760
Speaker 1: on the roster, you expect them to sign some free

2350
01:54:02,800 --> 01:54:04,680
Speaker 1: agents as well. With the cap space that they have,

2351
01:54:05,560 --> 01:54:08,479
Speaker 1: they could definitely consolidate picks. They probably should consolidate picks.

2352
01:54:08,640 --> 01:54:10,600
Speaker 1: There are a lot of votes for Philip Perry in

2353
01:54:10,680 --> 01:54:14,720
Speaker 1: the T shirt contest. The smell which I get. I

2354
01:54:14,800 --> 01:54:18,519
Speaker 1: could see that a couple from because Megan, see this

2355
01:54:18,680 --> 01:54:20,360
Speaker 1: is you also get every once in a while you

2356
01:54:20,400 --> 01:54:22,240
Speaker 1: would get a peek into the soul when Meghan was

2357
01:54:22,280 --> 01:54:27,040
Speaker 1: on the show. Megan, Megan found Philip Perry extremely handsome.

2358
01:54:27,560 --> 01:54:33,360
Speaker 1: Along with Shoe was subsessed with Meglio. Yes, yes, she's

2359
01:54:33,360 --> 01:54:36,920
Speaker 1: a white Sox homer. Two very different but types of people.

2360
01:54:36,960 --> 01:54:39,240
Speaker 1: But like she just like let it slip out one day,

2361
01:54:39,320 --> 01:54:42,480
Speaker 1: like on like on the air, like, I mean, he's

2362
01:54:42,600 --> 01:54:49,200
Speaker 1: very attractive and we of course we ran. You gotta

2363
01:54:49,280 --> 01:54:52,480
Speaker 1: just keep smelling it now. She was the best I

2364
01:54:52,600 --> 01:54:55,920
Speaker 1: miss Megan. Um. We did do one more question just um.

2365
01:54:56,160 --> 01:54:58,040
Speaker 1: This one come from Cody in Indiana. He's like, do

2366
01:54:58,120 --> 01:54:59,960
Speaker 1: you think it's wrong for me to want Devin mccordy

2367
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:01,720
Speaker 1: to retire rather than lay him up for one more year.

2368
01:55:01,760 --> 01:55:03,360
Speaker 1: I think he can still play at a reasonable level,

2369
01:55:03,400 --> 01:55:05,480
Speaker 1: but I just think it's time for changing the guard

2370
01:55:05,520 --> 01:55:07,680
Speaker 1: in the locker room and his presence may stifle some

2371
01:55:07,760 --> 01:55:10,280
Speaker 1: of the younger would be leaders. What would you prefer

2372
01:55:10,360 --> 01:55:12,920
Speaker 1: that he'd retire or play one more season? It's a

2373
01:55:12,960 --> 01:55:15,760
Speaker 1: great question. I mean, we're kind of waiting to hear

2374
01:55:16,080 --> 01:55:17,680
Speaker 1: I know, and I hear it. I said the same

2375
01:55:17,760 --> 01:55:19,760
Speaker 1: thing of at what point are you going to you know,

2376
01:55:19,880 --> 01:55:21,720
Speaker 1: kind of create a vacuum of sorts that a young

2377
01:55:22,120 --> 01:55:25,040
Speaker 1: new leadership structure has to set up, set step up,

2378
01:55:25,400 --> 01:55:27,360
Speaker 1: And you know, at what point do hearing from the

2379
01:55:27,400 --> 01:55:29,880
Speaker 1: guys who won a super Bowl five years ago, when

2380
01:55:29,920 --> 01:55:31,440
Speaker 1: does that start to be like you're just kind of

2381
01:55:31,480 --> 01:55:33,520
Speaker 1: the old guys. Now you're not this isn't ringing true

2382
01:55:33,560 --> 01:55:35,200
Speaker 1: to us. I just don't want that to happen. Not

2383
01:55:35,320 --> 01:55:37,600
Speaker 1: saying that that is, but I just I do wonder

2384
01:55:37,680 --> 01:55:39,400
Speaker 1: about that of of you know, you've got these kind

2385
01:55:39,400 --> 01:55:42,360
Speaker 1: of holdovers and mccordy and Slater still kind of preaching

2386
01:55:42,720 --> 01:55:44,960
Speaker 1: what was preached here for a long time, of course

2387
01:55:45,000 --> 01:55:47,120
Speaker 1: at work. But you know, is that message still freshen

2388
01:55:47,200 --> 01:55:50,160
Speaker 1: and are people still buying it? That's my question and

2389
01:55:50,360 --> 01:55:54,200
Speaker 1: no one else's. Oh, I think it's the way the emailer.

2390
01:55:55,200 --> 01:55:56,800
Speaker 1: I don't think you're wrong. I see the point. We

2391
01:55:56,880 --> 01:56:01,240
Speaker 1: all love mccordy, right, Um, he could still play. I mean,

2392
01:56:01,240 --> 01:56:02,800
Speaker 1: I don't think he's what he was, but he could

2393
01:56:02,840 --> 01:56:05,360
Speaker 1: still play. He's not a detriment out there. I don't

2394
01:56:05,440 --> 01:56:09,120
Speaker 1: have any idea of how to quantify his ability to

2395
01:56:09,440 --> 01:56:11,280
Speaker 1: get everybody on the same page in the back end.

2396
01:56:12,320 --> 01:56:14,960
Speaker 1: Will that be the same if it's yeah, you know,

2397
01:56:15,080 --> 01:56:17,520
Speaker 1: just I just look at the somebody else. When I

2398
01:56:17,600 --> 01:56:21,200
Speaker 1: watched defenses around in the league, the Patriots consistently have

2399
01:56:21,360 --> 01:56:24,200
Speaker 1: the fewest busted coverages out of any defense. Like they

2400
01:56:24,320 --> 01:56:26,320
Speaker 1: might get guys, you know, everybody's gonna get beat every

2401
01:56:26,360 --> 01:56:28,440
Speaker 1: once in a while, and a one on one matchup,

2402
01:56:28,480 --> 01:56:31,760
Speaker 1: they might get bag but you talking about one getting

2403
01:56:31,800 --> 01:56:35,160
Speaker 1: three yards behind the guy covering him, right, talking about uncovered. Yeah,

2404
01:56:35,200 --> 01:56:37,400
Speaker 1: it doesn't happen a lot with the page. No it doesn't.

2405
01:56:37,440 --> 01:56:41,080
Speaker 1: And I think that obviously the head, but you have

2406
01:56:41,200 --> 01:56:42,720
Speaker 1: to give some of it to him. And I go

2407
01:56:42,800 --> 01:56:44,720
Speaker 1: back to twenty twelve when I felt like it was

2408
01:56:44,880 --> 01:56:46,640
Speaker 1: and he, you know, as a rookie, had been in

2409
01:56:46,680 --> 01:56:48,520
Speaker 1: a corner and there was talking him moving to safety.

2410
01:56:48,560 --> 01:56:50,440
Speaker 1: And then I was at that Seattle game in twenty

2411
01:56:50,480 --> 01:56:53,080
Speaker 1: twelve where it was like bonds away on Tavon Wilson,

2412
01:56:53,360 --> 01:56:55,120
Speaker 1: and you like that was the need. You're like, man,

2413
01:56:55,160 --> 01:56:56,760
Speaker 1: we just we need a back end guy. I didn't

2414
01:56:56,760 --> 01:56:58,320
Speaker 1: really even see it at the time. You know that

2415
01:56:58,440 --> 01:57:00,840
Speaker 1: mccordy was was going to be that guy because she

2416
01:57:01,000 --> 01:57:02,720
Speaker 1: was still a corner then, right right, No, I know

2417
01:57:02,800 --> 01:57:04,160
Speaker 1: that's what like, you know what I mean, you know

2418
01:57:04,200 --> 01:57:06,200
Speaker 1: where you got to viscerated that season as a corner.

2419
01:57:06,600 --> 01:57:08,600
Speaker 1: We're about to wrap up, but I just I've got

2420
01:57:08,720 --> 01:57:11,040
Speaker 1: to ask Alex. I just want to know, Alex, just

2421
01:57:11,120 --> 01:57:12,560
Speaker 1: a couple of draft guys, like who are you? Who

2422
01:57:12,600 --> 01:57:14,720
Speaker 1: are a couple of favorites of your guys just curious

2423
01:57:14,760 --> 01:57:17,200
Speaker 1: who who you know is really a crusion? On the

2424
01:57:17,280 --> 01:57:19,240
Speaker 1: podcast you find out, I don't want to. Why should

2425
01:57:19,240 --> 01:57:20,720
Speaker 1: they give it away for free? Yeah, because people who

2426
01:57:20,720 --> 01:57:23,280
Speaker 1: listen already know I've talked about these guys enough. I

2427
01:57:23,360 --> 01:57:25,520
Speaker 1: really like Dwan Jones from Ohio State. You know, how

2428
01:57:25,600 --> 01:57:28,000
Speaker 1: does he fit with the Patriots? They probably need more

2429
01:57:28,000 --> 01:57:30,120
Speaker 1: of a left tackle and he's a right tackle. But

2430
01:57:30,680 --> 01:57:34,360
Speaker 1: six seven, three seventy five moves like a basketball player.

2431
01:57:34,640 --> 01:57:37,120
Speaker 1: Evans heard me say this. My comp for him is

2432
01:57:37,160 --> 01:57:40,000
Speaker 1: Trek Woland. In the sense that Woland had all the

2433
01:57:40,080 --> 01:57:42,920
Speaker 1: measurables still went in the fifth round. It almost felt

2434
01:57:42,960 --> 01:57:44,800
Speaker 1: like people looked at him and just thought it's all

2435
01:57:44,880 --> 01:57:46,960
Speaker 1: too good to be true. I kind of feel like

2436
01:57:47,000 --> 01:57:50,000
Speaker 1: people are doing the same thing with Dwan Jones. Everything

2437
01:57:50,120 --> 01:57:52,320
Speaker 1: about his makeup tells you he should be a stud,

2438
01:57:52,640 --> 01:57:54,280
Speaker 1: and there's still people say it. Maybe he goes in

2439
01:57:54,320 --> 01:57:57,920
Speaker 1: the top fifty, Like, what are we doing? Don't overthink it? Um.

2440
01:57:58,040 --> 01:58:01,680
Speaker 1: I really like Zach Kuon's the tight end from old dominion.

2441
01:58:02,000 --> 01:58:04,040
Speaker 1: You know, we even do that right, Like if he

2442
01:58:04,120 --> 01:58:08,120
Speaker 1: catches a pass. Even as far as the draft goes,

2443
01:58:08,160 --> 01:58:10,720
Speaker 1: he's an unknown didn't play last year. But again it's

2444
01:58:10,760 --> 01:58:13,920
Speaker 1: the same thing. Six eight two fifty five four five

2445
01:58:14,080 --> 01:58:17,520
Speaker 1: five forty inch vertical. There's something there. Just bring him

2446
01:58:17,520 --> 01:58:20,200
Speaker 1: in and figure it out. Josh Downs is my favorite

2447
01:58:20,320 --> 01:58:25,120
Speaker 1: slot receiver. I just think he's so technically sound. He's

2448
01:58:25,200 --> 01:58:28,080
Speaker 1: just I think he's gonna have a very low learning

2449
01:58:28,120 --> 01:58:34,480
Speaker 1: curve compared to some of the other receivers. Um Corner.

2450
01:58:34,520 --> 01:58:36,640
Speaker 1: Oh dude, Julius Brentz. That was like the first guy

2451
01:58:36,680 --> 01:58:39,320
Speaker 1: I was in one big Julius Brentz guy. He turned

2452
01:58:39,320 --> 01:58:43,000
Speaker 1: me into a Julius Prinz fan I was. I watched

2453
01:58:43,240 --> 01:58:46,680
Speaker 1: Koon's yesterday, did my deep dive into him yet on Twitter?

2454
01:58:46,920 --> 01:58:49,720
Speaker 1: And I texted him like fun player and he was like,

2455
01:58:49,840 --> 01:58:52,760
Speaker 1: fun player, come on well because I hopefully we have

2456
01:58:52,840 --> 01:58:54,400
Speaker 1: the audio and we talked about him on the show

2457
01:58:54,440 --> 01:58:57,120
Speaker 1: two weeks so when I'm fighting when I brought him up,

2458
01:58:57,160 --> 01:59:00,480
Speaker 1: Evan could not have sounded more disgusted when I brought

2459
01:59:00,520 --> 01:59:04,000
Speaker 1: up Zach Koons and Darnell Washing because he was so disinterested.

2460
01:59:04,080 --> 01:59:06,320
Speaker 1: I get that a lot. Yeah, you guys know, you

2461
01:59:06,400 --> 01:59:09,440
Speaker 1: guys are Jack Kons from Old Dominion. And I texted

2462
01:59:09,520 --> 01:59:11,600
Speaker 1: him yesterday and I was like, this is the guy

2463
01:59:11,680 --> 01:59:14,040
Speaker 1: that they overdraft, like this is the good and that's

2464
01:59:14,080 --> 01:59:18,320
Speaker 1: why I'm already pre I'm gonna say this and I

2465
01:59:18,440 --> 01:59:20,200
Speaker 1: get made fun of him Mac and played on a loop.

2466
01:59:20,200 --> 01:59:22,880
Speaker 1: They ain't drafting a tight end from old Dominion, so

2467
01:59:23,080 --> 01:59:25,200
Speaker 1: he actually thought on the old man Penn State. To

2468
01:59:25,320 --> 01:59:27,480
Speaker 1: be fair, he went, he started at Penn State. He

2469
01:59:27,560 --> 01:59:30,320
Speaker 1: started at Penn State. That's all of his production came.

2470
01:59:30,320 --> 01:59:32,600
Speaker 1: Oh it's the same. They never draft Penn State guys. No,

2471
01:59:32,800 --> 01:59:34,880
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying he came from a real program

2472
01:59:35,000 --> 01:59:37,400
Speaker 1: heavy ability to a real yeah, like I take a

2473
01:59:37,520 --> 01:59:39,760
Speaker 1: late round flyer off some guy from a small like

2474
01:59:39,840 --> 01:59:43,400
Speaker 1: the Sam Roberts last Yeah, but not not the guy

2475
01:59:43,480 --> 01:59:47,840
Speaker 1: that we well it you teach at Uga Paul Yeah,

2476
01:59:47,920 --> 01:59:51,680
Speaker 1: and and I mean you pretending the choir and only

2477
01:59:51,760 --> 01:59:53,520
Speaker 1: state and you only had to replace him in four

2478
01:59:53,560 --> 01:59:57,280
Speaker 1: different games. THEFF tells me how great he was, Butons

2479
01:59:57,680 --> 02:00:00,640
Speaker 1: coach didn't agree. Huons is your perfect like third round

2480
02:00:01,080 --> 02:00:03,560
Speaker 1: tight end prospect though, that just is a freak athlete,

2481
02:00:03,560 --> 02:00:06,920
Speaker 1: and you hope that it almost like George Kittles, you know,

2482
02:00:07,040 --> 02:00:08,440
Speaker 1: in the league, where all of a sudden he just

2483
02:00:08,480 --> 02:00:10,480
Speaker 1: blossoms into his grape Mike is sick. He's the guy

2484
02:00:10,480 --> 02:00:13,840
Speaker 1: I've used. All right, Well, Paul and Duce gotta get

2485
02:00:13,840 --> 02:00:15,960
Speaker 1: out of here, but you've got plenty more of Evan

2486
02:00:16,080 --> 02:00:18,640
Speaker 1: and Barth coming at you here. We will be back

2487
02:00:18,720 --> 02:00:21,880
Speaker 1: next week. Of course, Monday, the tampering period opens, so

2488
02:00:22,000 --> 02:00:24,720
Speaker 1: we will be on high alert for any emergency podcast,

2489
02:00:24,840 --> 02:00:27,880
Speaker 1: big news, anything like that. But if not, we do

2490
02:00:27,960 --> 02:00:30,960
Speaker 1: an emergency podcast. But tampering, oh yeah, I don't know.

2491
02:00:31,360 --> 02:00:33,040
Speaker 1: We didn't do one for James Ferenson. I don't know

2492
02:00:33,120 --> 02:00:36,240
Speaker 1: Eagle tampering now, no, I know, But let's say a

2493
02:00:36,280 --> 02:00:38,880
Speaker 1: disclaimer that'll fix everythink Tuesday, we'll get you up to

2494
02:00:39,000 --> 02:00:41,240
Speaker 1: date on the tampering and then uh, I'll let you

2495
02:00:41,320 --> 02:00:42,960
Speaker 1: guys carry it through the rest of the week because

2496
02:00:42,960 --> 02:00:46,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch Matt March Madness come out break stick

2497
02:00:46,360 --> 02:00:48,400
Speaker 1: around for Catch twenty two. We will catch you on Tuesday.

2498
02:00:50,480 --> 02:00:54,240
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02:00:54,320 --> 02:00:57,360
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