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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Shoe Getty.

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Speaker 2: Armstrong and Jackietie and he Armstrong and Yetty.

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Speaker 3: Waiting for some of the details to come out. They

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Speaker 3: just announced they arrested someone in the Benghazi Remember the

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Speaker 3: Benghazi story, the attack on our embassy and people dying,

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Speaker 3: that whole thing, And they arrested somebody.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so we'll figure out that. Guy.

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm asking my AI, Hey, what are countries where

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Speaker 3: the US can't have me arrested?

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Speaker 2: And I would just be in those countries? Yeah, how

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Speaker 2: did we arrest him? We've got a little bit of

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Speaker 2: new information on.

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Speaker 4: The disappearance of Savannah Guthrie's mom, Nancy Guthrie. I think

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Speaker 4: this story might peter out at some point when there's

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Speaker 4: just no information and she's gone, and there's always possible

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Speaker 4: they just don't ever find her.

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Speaker 3: We have some of the best analysis we've come across

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Speaker 3: cool on this case from a learned FBI guy.

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Speaker 2: I look forward to that. Here's something that will annoy you.

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Speaker 2: Do you want to be annoyed? I woke up annoyed.

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Speaker 2: I don't know where this school district is a harrow valley.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, how do you pronounce that? You suppose

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Speaker 2: Monterrey County, California. It's in Monterey, Okay. This is a

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Speaker 2: school board meeting.

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Speaker 4: Somebody apparently had stood up during the school board meeting

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Speaker 4: and used the term homeless talking about something. And it

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Speaker 4: was actually because I heard it actually in a very

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Speaker 3: It was like, you know, we need to do something

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Speaker 3: to help the homeless. They're out there and it's cold

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Speaker 3: and blah blah blah. Anyway, even though that's the side

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Speaker 3: of it they were on, this is the way the

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Speaker 3: school board member responded to it.

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Speaker 5: I have a lot to say, and I will speak plainly,

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Speaker 5: and you may not like it. I'm personally offended by

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Speaker 5: what was presented on so many different levels. One thing

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Speaker 5: I would like to see updated is the word homeless

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Speaker 5: to unhoused. I'm not I'm not done.

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Speaker 3: Can.

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Speaker 1: I just don't want mister Bourman to for this to

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Speaker 1: be on him. That's the way our state of California.

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Speaker 1: That's the language that they use, and that's theirs. That's

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Speaker 1: the language we have to use. I'm statement and I

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Speaker 1: just want to make sure that he's I understand that.

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Speaker 5: I recognize that you're using the information that was given

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Speaker 3: That is elected official, Joy Flynn, Let's just let that

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Speaker 3: breathe for a little bit. Where do you start, As

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Speaker 3: Michael said yesterday, Michael Angelo has said yesterday.

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Speaker 2: How do these people get through the day?

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Speaker 4: I mean, if you find I am deeply offended, if

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Speaker 4: you're deeply personally offended by that sort of thing, how

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Speaker 4: do you get through the day without just being angry

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Speaker 4: all day long? Well, and let's not forget just because

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Speaker 4: you're offended doesn't mean you're right. In fact, in my experience,

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Speaker 4: being that sort of offended is generally someone who's wrong.

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Speaker 4: How about somebody jumping in who's probably also a lefty

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Speaker 4: wacko saying, well, before you jump down his throat. It's

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Speaker 4: the actual language in our you know, in any of

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Speaker 4: our legal documents about the situation. So well, that doesn't

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Speaker 4: mean we have to use the word yes, Katie.

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Speaker 2: I'm also finding some comedy in the fact that her

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Speaker 3: Yes, indeed, you are a joy. You are you are fun.

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Speaker 3: You're like a one woman party. You walk in the

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Speaker 3: door of the party started boy and that poor son

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Speaker 3: a point of order. These two dumb fees are driving

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Speaker 3: but it's happening anyway.

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Speaker 2: I just thought that was interesting.

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Speaker 4: You know that that is not a you know, an

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Speaker 4: isolated incident. I'm sure that is an indicator of all

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Speaker 4: kinds of crap that school board believes and discusses and

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Speaker 3: You worry about the fact that the kids aren't learning. Well,

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Speaker 3: it's the schools, like so many different institutions of society,

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Speaker 3: have been captured by the radical left in their brilliant,

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Speaker 3: because in a America that's a terrible thing to be.

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Speaker 3: They will back down, we will take control of the organization,

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Speaker 3: and then we can install the policies of the radical left.

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Speaker 3: There is a perfect example of that. But these weird

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Speaker 3: why are you even talking about that at a school

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Speaker 3: These straight out of the Cultural Revolution China people with

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Speaker 2: How do you They don't know how.

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Speaker 3: Nuts they are apparently, or how how nuts the rest

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Speaker 3: of us see them as. Nobody's gonna benefit from saying

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Speaker 3: unhoused instead of homeless. Not a single good thing will happen.

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Speaker 3: And you seem to think it's just so out of bounds,

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Speaker 2: It's deeply offended. What are you talking about?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well they're crazy, although she's also she is a

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Speaker 3: good maoist, you know, maoist with American characteristics to flip

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Speaker 3: that old socialist thing on its head in that and Jack,

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Speaker 3: you know this from the Soviet Revolution too. You change

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Speaker 3: those words and those slogans frequently enough that people must

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Speaker 3: be up to date on the party line and must

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Speaker 3: use the right terms, or you castigate them, you yell

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Speaker 3: And then people become so obsessed with just getting it

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Speaker 3: right they no longer they have no sight of the

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Speaker 3: original issue. It's merely being a slave to the party line.

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Speaker 3: That's what this Joy Flynn is very good at, and

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Speaker 3: that's what she's insisting on, because once you have, you're

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Speaker 3: completely divorced from reality and what's actually happening. All you

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Speaker 3: you is true? Can you play just the beginning part again?

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Speaker 4: Because I just like how oh yes, disappointed and anger

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Speaker 5: I have a lot to say, and I will speak plainly.

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Speaker 5: You may not like it, Oh no, Joyce, I'm personally

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Speaker 5: offended by what was presented. Oh no, on so many

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Speaker 5: different levels, multiple levels. One thing I would like to

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Speaker 2: Sure, joy You're an idiot. Shut up. That's what the

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of that kind of person in there,

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Speaker 3: because there's the I'm personally offended and we're all supposed

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Speaker 2: A step back. We've got an offended person here, people.

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Speaker 3: Exactly that if anybody's offended all of a sudden, no,

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Speaker 3: moved to make sure no one's ever offended, because if

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Speaker 3: anybody's eend clearly, that's like the worst crime on Earth.

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Speaker 3: And then the other part is there, I'm gonna speak

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Speaker 2: You might not like it, but I'm about to.

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Speaker 3: Hit you with the truth bomb and you know that

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Speaker 3: whole thing whatever shit shut up.

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Speaker 2: Her first name is Joy, but her last name should

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Speaker 2: be killed. Yes, yes, there you go.

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Speaker 3: I am personally a fall We haven't offended person people are? What?

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Speaker 2: Who? Who?

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Speaker 3: Seriously, everybody, take a second, as long as it takes

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Speaker 3: to picture the people you've come across personally and at work, whatever, church, whatever,

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Speaker 3: opposite of all those things? And yet during the woke

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Speaker 3: apocalypse especially, that attitude costs.

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Speaker 2: Everybody to freeze. Oh my god, what have I done?

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Speaker 2: What if I done?

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Speaker 3: I'll just be quiet and let you tell me what

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Speaker 2: Oh no, oh no, I'm not transphobic.

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Speaker 3: I'm not a racist, I'm not a bigot, I'm not

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Speaker 4: In some places, I'll quit my job or be fired

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Speaker 4: your You're well, you were offended. I shouldn't be allowed

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Speaker 4: to work here anymore. You have been offended included.

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Speaker 2: You know your jobs. We've drilled. We've drilled doing your jobs.

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Speaker 3: Including when they realized, wait a minute, this stuff. People

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Speaker 3: have like rational arguments against some of the things we're saying.

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Speaker 3: Let's invent microaggressions so we can pretend the most innocuous things.

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Speaker 2: Are actually horrible. So everybody's so.

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Speaker 3: Terrified they don't know what to do or say, and

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Speaker 3: they shut up and let us take over.

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Speaker 2: That's the way it works, folks. That's the way it works.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god. So one more school thing I wanted

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Speaker 3: That's a different sort of thing, but also an example

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Speaker 3: of how our public school systems are so New Jersey

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Speaker 3: joins many other states in the rush to make high

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Speaker 4: That's the headline in the New York Post. But what

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Speaker 4: they're doing is they're they're eliminating the high school graduation

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Speaker 4: Tossing such basic academic standards as a nationwide public education

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Speaker 2: Rid of it. That's weird.

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Speaker 3: That was exactly a coincident with the rise of the

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Speaker 3: teachers union. Yeah to teen churches, schools, and school boards.

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Speaker 3: Teachers unions hate them because they suggest the kids aren't

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Speaker 3: learning what they should. Progressives, on the other hand, believe

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Speaker 3: that it helps equality or something equity. It's just it's

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Speaker 3: amazing that you could possibly think getting rid of the

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Speaker 3: graduation proficiency assessment is a good thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we all know what's going on here, I think,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just like our socialism discussion. It's not about

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Speaker 3: lifting up the bottom. It's about bringing down the top

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Speaker 3: end or eliminating any differences shared misery.

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Speaker 4: I will say, as I've said Managerance, the people that

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Speaker 2: This is helping the downtrodden.

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Speaker 3: But the people that know what they're doing, because a

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Speaker 3: lot of people know what they're doing, I don't know

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Speaker 3: how you sleep at night. How can you send high

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Speaker 3: school graduates out in the world. They can't do basic

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Speaker 3: math or read, and they're gonna their lives are gonna suck.

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Speaker 2: And you're okay with that? How do you sleep at night?

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you precisely how it's a necessary sacrifice to

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Speaker 3: bring about the revolution. Man, It's like a soldier dying

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Speaker 3: in war telling a he got a high school diploma

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Speaker 3: when it doesn't mean a freaking thing.

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Speaker 2: Is a really evil thing to do. Yeah, yeah, you just.

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Speaker 3: You can't appeal to their conscience, because their conscience tells

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Speaker 3: them what they're doing is exactly the right thing.

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Speaker 2: All right, I just gotta beat them.

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Speaker 4: Speaking of joy, we need more joy on the show.

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Speaker 4: Just don'ting to bring myself down or more beatings or.

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Speaker 3: Here it is the struggle to name the new baby

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Speaker 2: That's right, mister splashy pace. Oh my god, oh.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Trunky mctrunk face is too obvious. You got to

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Speaker 4: I'm sure there's some name that calls to mind the

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Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty. High stakes in the House of Commons.

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Speaker 7: UK Prime Minister and Labor Party leader Kier Starmer's political

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Speaker 7: of documents tied to convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. Starmer

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Speaker 7: The Labor Party big wig Peter Mandelson, who Starmer named

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Speaker 4: Okay, knowing the guy and named in the files means

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Speaker 3: He was a he offered moral support and rationalizations and

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Speaker 3: like that. This guy, and I want to I want

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Speaker 4: No kidding so here. This is some Epstein latest. This

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Speaker 4: from CBS News, and Mark Alprin put this in his

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Speaker 2: I don't know why this stuff is new, but it's new.

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Speaker 3: Show that investigators reviewing surveillance footage from the night Epstein

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Speaker 3: Fact that the flash of orange was seen is like

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Speaker 3: Lord, a flash of orange looks to be going up

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Speaker 3: the l tier stairs. Could possibly be an inmate escorted

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Speaker 3: I'm guessing it's an inmate, is the way it was

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Speaker 3: The fact that this is just being revealed now makes

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Speaker 2: Right? Right? So, Mark Calprin's summary of this.

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Speaker 4: The latest Epstein stuff is this. This is one of

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Speaker 4: But keep your eye on the mainstay, such as who

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Speaker 3: Still a bit of a mystery, Mark Halprin, I watch

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Speaker 3: I'm not convinced Epstein killed himself guy. Uh, that's pretty

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Speaker 3: And you'd have to have something really serious to hide

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Speaker 4: Make lose power for a decade, if it's going to

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Speaker 3: So how wouldn't that be something if a foreign government

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Speaker 2: Wooh, that would be a scandal. Wow. Wow, that straight

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So I tip my cap to Mark Halpern's characterization

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Speaker 3: Summers on leave from teaching at Harvard Ex Prince Andrew

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Speaker 3: lost his title, booted from his royal housing. Peter Mandelsson

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Speaker 3: The fallout continues. That's the guy we're talking about with

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Speaker 3: those are such different situations. Larry Summers was getting advice

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Speaker 3: But that's way different than Prince Andrew, who we know

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very different things. So to that point, I.

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Speaker 3: Posed the question yesterday, I would like to sit down

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Speaker 3: And the answer to those questions is coming out at

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Speaker 3: two thousand and eight conviction for soliciting a minor for prostitution.

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Speaker 3: They actively consoled him, cast him as a victim, and

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Speaker 3: In twenty nineteen, long after Virginia Jeffrey went public with

439
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 3: their sex trafficking allegations, and newspaper investigations put a spotlight

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Speaker 3: on Epstein's activities.

441
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Speaker 2: Over the course of.

442
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Speaker 3: Years and years, political activists and professor Noam Chomsky sent

443
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 3: Epstein a message about how to handle his putrid press

444
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 3: counseled him to stay silent. Quote and I already hate

445
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Speaker 3: Noam choms. I haven't heard this.

446
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Speaker 4: I heard reference to this yesterday by some conservative podcasters

447
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Speaker 4: about how much they were loving Nom Chompsky.

448
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Speaker 3: Yeah, getting drug into this, and I was meant to

449
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Speaker 3: look it up. So he's a hero of the American left,

450
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Speaker 3: if you're not hippy. His act practically the hero of

451
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Speaker 3: the American left. And so he was advising Epstein on

452
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Speaker 3: how to rehabilitate his image after he got convicted of crimes. Correct,

453
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Speaker 3: nice job, nome quote. He's telling him to stay silent.

454
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 3: What the vultures dearly want is a public response, which

455
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Speaker 3: then provides a public opening for an onslaught of venomous attacks,

456
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 3: many from just publicity seekers or cranks of all sorts.

457
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Speaker 3: That's particularly true now with the hysteria that's developed about

458
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Speaker 3: abuse of women, which has reached the point that even

459
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Speaker 3: questioning a charge is a crime worse than murder. Five

460
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Speaker 3: months later, he was arrested on federal sex trafficking charges.

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Speaker 3: So Nom Chomsky like does he not believe Epstein did it?

462
00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 2: And like got railroaded or what of hysteria. There's more.

463
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Speaker 3: Months after the six arrest in Palm Beach, Stanley Pottinger emailed,

464
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Speaker 3: he was a New York attorney and former Assistant Attorney

465
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Speaker 3: General for Civil Rights under Nixon and Ford. Quote, it's

466
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 3: been a while since we've seen each other, but reading

467
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Speaker 3: about the excesses of the Palm Beach cops, I had

468
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Speaker 3: to drop you a line of support. The small minded

469
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Speaker 3: of the world don't like thinkers and doers, especially when

470
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 3: they succeed, he told Epstein. The situation passed, and he

471
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 3: looked forward to quote hearing the funny side of this thing. Weirdly,

472
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Speaker 3: Pottinger went on to represent victims against Epstein.

473
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Speaker 2: He croaked a.

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Speaker 3: Couple of years back in eight Stephen Coslin, then head

475
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Speaker 3: of Harvard's psychology department Harvid, whose research had received two

476
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollars in donations from Epstein over the course

477
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 3: of the nineties and early two thousands, wished him well

478
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Speaker 3: on his birthday. May the coming year be infinitely better

479
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Speaker 3: than the previous one. Epstein replied, thanks, but not a

480
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Speaker 3: very high hurdle. At least he kept his sense of humor.

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Speaker 3: By June, when Coslin wrote to update him about a

482
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Speaker 3: new job. Epstein replied that unfortunately, jail starts Monday. Others

483
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Speaker 3: show Other emails show Coslyn later working with Epstein on

484
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Speaker 3: drafting scripts for reporters to help restore Epstein's public image.

485
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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: Peter Mandelssohn, one of the most important and powerful men

487
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 3: in Britain then serving as European Commissioner for Trade, wrote

488
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Speaker 3: to Epstein in June of eight, I think the world

489
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 3: of view and feel hopeless and furious about what has happened.

490
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,679
Speaker 3: He told the convicted sex offender. It just could not

491
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Speaker 3: happen in Britain. Wow, Which is interesting because that was

492
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 3: right around the British establishment was starting to cover up

493
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Speaker 3: for the Muslim rape gangs in northern England and suppressing

494
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Speaker 3: those charges.

495
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Speaker 2: Because they were inconvenient.

496
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 3: So a very more bit, he urged Epstein to be

497
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 3: incredibly resilient and fight for your early release. Your friends

498
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 3: stay with you, and you so are you, saying, dude,

499
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 3: as one of the highest ranking officials in all of

500
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Speaker 3: England Britain government, that in our country, powerful men get

501
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 3: to have sex with underage women and not end up

502
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Speaker 3: in jail.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, what the hell?

504
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Speaker 3: People with the favor of the government who we don't

505
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Speaker 3: want to offend.

506
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Speaker 2: There's more.

507
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Speaker 3: Summer of eight, Epstein began serving a sentence at the

508
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Speaker 3: Palm Beach County Stockade. In June, Jess Staley, head of

509
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Speaker 3: JP morgan Chase's private bank, wrote I hope you are

510
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Speaker 3: hanging in there. Epstein replied the next day with career advice.

511
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 3: By September, Staley wrote, I miss you. I hope you

512
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Speaker 3: keep the island. We all may need to live there.

513
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 3: I am baffled by this. Yeah, man, his tentacles are amazing.

514
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 3: The different parts of the world he reaches into, and

515
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Speaker 3: how high a level of friends he has.

516
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Speaker 2: It's just stunning.

517
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, that's the interesting part to me. The

518
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 3: Prince Andrew stuff is, you might guess, is well, but

519
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 3: what's the why it can't all be sex, can it?

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Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 3: As I said, it's it's sex, access to enormous amounts

522
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Speaker 3: of money, an incredible network, a charming guy, and and

523
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Speaker 3: there is among those folks an attitude that listen, the

524
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 3: little people don't understand our lives and our lifestyles. Those

525
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Speaker 3: girls were lucky to get a taste of it. They

526
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Speaker 3: were there of their own free will. This is all ridiculous.

527
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Speaker 3: They're untouchable.

528
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Speaker 2: Well, that's a horrifying way to put it. Yes, uh wow,

529
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Speaker 2: here's a woman owner of a model agency.

530
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Speaker 3: I know you don't believe this, but I really do

531
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Speaker 3: love you like a brother and feel so sad this

532
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Speaker 3: is happening. She advised Epstein to lay low and very

533
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 3: quiet and disparage those who had distanced themselves themselves from him.

534
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 3: You know, you should know who your friends are. The

535
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Speaker 3: rest are pieces of crap. She also said he should

536
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Speaker 3: find a charitable project project to generate positive press, though

537
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Speaker 3: she cautioned, quote not yet, because you are still a

538
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Speaker 3: target for the press, and not many big institutions will

539
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Speaker 3: take your money at this moment, but in time. But

540
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Speaker 3: he's not the only rich guy in the world. Would

541
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542
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Speaker 3: He did?

543
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Speaker 2: There has there's I feel like there's a missing something now.

544
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Speaker 4: A friend of mine who has worked in the federal

545
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Speaker 4: The other day he told me he said this guy

547
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Speaker 4: was an Israeli asset. He said, I just really believe it.

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Speaker 2: I have no idea. And all these.

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Speaker 3: People's people stayed friends with them because I still don't

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Speaker 3: quite understand. No, what does that have to do with

551
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Speaker 3: Well, like when Mark Halpern writes, pay attention to information

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Speaker 3: about who Epstein worked for? That's that's Halprin having. He's

582
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 3: hearing things from people, but it's not solid enough to

583
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Speaker 3: like say out loud, what does that mean? Who he

584
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 3: worked for the Israelis? Or who's Epstein working for? Yeah,

585
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Speaker 3: I don't know. There are so many examples. I've got

586
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Speaker 3: a bunch more I didn't get to that. Are they

587
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Speaker 3: boiled down to the allure of the super rich and

588
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 3: famous and their lifestyles. People don't want to give that up.

589
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 3: I've seen it in person on a guy who's a

590
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 3: fraction of Epstein. People debase themselves. They threw themselves at

591
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 3: this guy's feet. From the first moment I observed it,

592
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 3: it disgusted me and this guy. Please compare to Epstein.

593
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 3: He was nothing, but he had a lifestyle and a

594
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Speaker 3: plane and blah blah blah, and.

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Speaker 4: Just you're in that tier, and you really the worst

596
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Speaker 4: thing that you could possibly imagine in the world is

597
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Speaker 4: dropping out of that tier. And he thought so on

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Speaker 4: this text line four nine five KFTC.

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Speaker 8: The NFL honors just wrapped up in San Francisco. La

600
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Speaker 8: Rams quarterback Matthew Stafford was named this year's Most Valuable Player.

601
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Speaker 8: He accepted the award alongside his four daughters, who all

602
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Speaker 8: clearly wore matching outfits. Stafford has been in the league

603
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Speaker 8: for seventeen years and this is the first time he's

604
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Speaker 8: won the MVP award.

605
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Speaker 2: Yeah, when's the MVP of the entire NFL. He's thirty

606
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Speaker 2: six or something like that, been playing forever.

607
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Speaker 4: One of the closest votes ever, just barely beating out

608
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Speaker 4: Drake May the quarterback for the Patriots, but Stafford quarterback

609
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Speaker 4: for the La Rams. If you didn't see the picture,

610
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Speaker 4: it was mentioned there. He's on stage with his four

611
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Speaker 4: little girls. It was cuter deck, just cuter deck. All

612
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Speaker 4: four of his little daughters addressed the same They look by.

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Speaker 4: The headline to me is Matt Stafford's been in the

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Speaker 4: NFL for sixteen years?

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Speaker 2: What? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl oh.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sorry, real quick, coming up, I didn't get

619
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Speaker 3: to Richard Branson and Steve Bannon's continuing conversations and correspondence

620
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Speaker 3: with Jeffrey Epstein and the lifestyles of the Rich and

621
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Speaker 3: Famous to stay with us.

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Speaker 4: So this prop bet stuff, which often turns into a

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Speaker 4: fair amount of money. With all the gambling scandals we've

624
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Speaker 4: had sports wise in the last year, how are you

625
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Speaker 4: not going to end up with somebody like Charlie Pooths

626
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Speaker 4: doing the national anthem? The over under is one hundred

627
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Speaker 4: and nineteen and a half seconds and talking here about

628
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Speaker 4: how you know how long you hold the final brave?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, how would you not.

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Speaker 3: over under and you're looking at the clockwave Okay, I

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Speaker 3: they did it on purpose? Or the easy thing? Bet

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Speaker 3: the under and sing it fast? Yeah, exactly. The crying

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Speaker 3: last ten Super Bowls. Oh, what will the first song

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Speaker 2: Or it will be t T.

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Speaker 3: Pragunto, which is how you think heat Spanish for tell

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Speaker 3: me you're not pregnant or something.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Umm, wardrobe malfunction. I don't want to see Bad Bunny's nipple.

649
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Speaker 4: Oh there's one more. I wanted to hit this kind

650
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Speaker 4: of bunny.

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Speaker 3: Oh a bet that the game will end with a

652
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Speaker 3: score that has never happened to before in NFL history,

653
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Speaker 3: like twenty one to five or thirty one to eleven.

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Speaker 2: Boy, that's a long shot. The MVP speech, what will

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Speaker 2: be the first person thanked? God? A teammate, your mom

656
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Speaker 2: and dad, or a coach? God is almost always the favorite.

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Speaker 2: There you go, thirty one to eleven.

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Speaker 3: I'm looking for a scandal with the national anthem and

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Speaker 3: out of time. You got to really cut it off here.

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Speaker 3: Oh we got more coming up an hour three. Hope

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