Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from
Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined by my
Speaker 1: partner in crime, Wes Hodkowitz. We're coming to you here
Speaker 1: from our studios at lambeau Field and West. Week one
Speaker 1: has finally arrived, Packers Saints. It will be played in
Speaker 1: Jacksonville on Sunday. It's a three pm Central Time kickoff.
Speaker 1: We are just a handful of days away now from
Speaker 1: the opener to the season. And a bit of news
Speaker 1: here as Week one gets under way for the Packers.
Speaker 1: Zadarius Smith now only doing individual drills. But Zadarius Smith
Speaker 1: back at practice, trying to work his way back for
Speaker 1: a second time now from that back injury after a
Speaker 1: start and stop during training camp. But uh, a sign
Speaker 1: that that this Packers team might just be getting healthy
Speaker 1: at the right time. Yeah, very much so. And I
Speaker 1: gotta admit, like I kind of after the intro, I'm
Speaker 1: still not used to saying Packers versus Saints in Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's terrible what happened in New Orleans. I
Speaker 1: wish this game was being played down there. I just
Speaker 1: I still can't believe this game is being played in Jacksonville,
Speaker 1: of all places. But we'll see how the thing goes
Speaker 1: ninety degree weather. We'll talk about that later this week
Speaker 1: with Keys to Victory. Drink your gatorade. As far as
Speaker 1: this is concerned, though, with Sadarius Smith, a pleasant surprise
Speaker 1: with him being back on the practice field and match.
Speaker 1: Niven from The Athletic asked the question of Matt Lafleur
Speaker 1: before practice, Before practice, are you anticipating scenes to Darius,
Speaker 1: And as he said, yeah, we're gonna try to get
Speaker 1: him through the individuals and hope that he can be
Speaker 1: back over on their field this week. Back injuries are tricky, Mike,
Speaker 1: and we don't know if it's structural, we don't know
Speaker 1: if it's a muscle issue. But for Zadarius to miss
Speaker 1: as much time as he did after really not missing
Speaker 1: any I mean, this is a guy that has been
Speaker 1: banged up the past two years, but he's still found
Speaker 1: a way to be out there on Sundays. Um it
Speaker 1: tells you that this was something that that this guy
Speaker 1: was truly dealing with. And we'll see exact actually what
Speaker 1: the rep count looks like if he does play. The
Speaker 1: nice thing for the Packers is I thought Preston Smith
Speaker 1: had a phenomenal preseas you know, preseason training camp. I
Speaker 1: thought he looked great. I thought he he seemed tremor.
Speaker 1: He seemed like he was you know, really you could
Speaker 1: tell there's a chip on his shoulder there to want
Speaker 1: to bounce back this season. That was the best training
Speaker 1: camp he's had in his three in Green Bay. I
Speaker 1: think there's no question about yeah. In in Rashaan Garry,
Speaker 1: although he had a couple of trip ups there with
Speaker 1: the groin issue, has continued to make significant strides. I
Speaker 1: said it from day one, whether it's a Darius Smith
Speaker 1: is healthy or not, I think I want to see
Speaker 1: you gotta get Rashaan Gary. I'm more on the field
Speaker 1: and the defensive snaps, and depending on what Z's workload
Speaker 1: looks like early this season, this could be a really
Speaker 1: good opportunity for him to do so. Yeah, absolutely, I
Speaker 1: think you know a best case scenario for the Packers
Speaker 1: here now if Zadarius Smith is able to continue practicing
Speaker 1: to some extent the rest of the week, given all
Speaker 1: the time that he's missed, He's not taking the field
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville to play fifty or sixty snaps or whatever.
Speaker 1: That I think is out of the question. But if Smith,
Speaker 1: given all this time that he's missed, is actually healthy
Speaker 1: enough and capable to play a situational role in Week
Speaker 1: one here to play, whether it's ten or twelve or
Speaker 1: fifteen snaps, whatever it might be, you know, strictly a
Speaker 1: third down situational pass rusher maybe as an example, that
Speaker 1: would certainly be a boost to to the Packers defense
Speaker 1: for a guy that they haven't had on the field
Speaker 1: throughout the course of training camp. Also, just on the
Speaker 1: injury front, Tyler Lancaster, who's been out for a while
Speaker 1: with an elbow injury. He was back at practice on Monday.
Speaker 1: As far as the fifty three man roster the active roster,
Speaker 1: the only player not practicing on Monday for the Packers
Speaker 1: was second year safety Fernon Scott. So obviously Matt Lafleur's
Speaker 1: plan was to get to Week one as healthy as possible.
Speaker 1: It's why the starters, the vast majority the starters, did
Speaker 1: not play in any of the preseason games. They did
Speaker 1: not want to take any risks there. And to this point,
Speaker 1: it looks like he's going to accomplish that goal as
Speaker 1: best he could. Yeah, and there's there's two different trains
Speaker 1: of thought to this, Mike. The first one is you
Speaker 1: don't want to take out your your stars. You don't
Speaker 1: want to bang them up going into the season. Uh,
Speaker 1: you can look. I think even I was looking through
Speaker 1: some different game books after the prison finale. I mean,
Speaker 1: you thought the Green Bay Packers sitting thirty players was
Speaker 1: a lot. There were some teams it was thirty five forty.
Speaker 1: It seemed like just they didn't They might have been dressed,
Speaker 1: but they didn't get in the game. They really concentrated
Speaker 1: on shorten up that bench because you need to be
Speaker 1: able to get these guys through a seventeen game season.
Speaker 1: But furthermore, Matt Laflour, these guys that don't have any
Speaker 1: more breaks now until early December, you're gonna go a
Speaker 1: long wait for that, for the full bye week, twelve
Speaker 1: straight games to be able to get I mean forty
Speaker 1: years ago it was twelve games. I mean it was
Speaker 1: that's just the way it was built. So for the Packers,
Speaker 1: as I've said to you before, since the day the
Speaker 1: schedule came out, that is a huge opportunity for them.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be able to rest up and then have
Speaker 1: whatever it is three of their last five or whatnot
Speaker 1: at home and be able to kind of build some
Speaker 1: momentum into a potential playoff push. But to get there,
Speaker 1: the they got to go through the gauntlet here. Unfortunately
Speaker 1: for green Bay, they enter Week one healthy. Yeah well,
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Speaker 1: We talked a lot in the offseason Wes about even
Speaker 1: given the salary cap constraints and and just the strange
Speaker 1: financial world that the NFL is in here, that general
Speaker 1: manager Brian gudakunst rust Ball, Matt Lafleur, everybody, they did
Speaker 1: everything they could with only a couple of exceptions. They
Speaker 1: did everything that they could to kind of keep the
Speaker 1: band together to make another run at this thing. But
Speaker 1: if there's one area where we're going, there's going to
Speaker 1: be some significant personnel change compared to what we've seen.
Speaker 1: It's on special teams because it looks like Amari Rodgers,
Speaker 1: the rookie third round pick, will be the punt returner.
Speaker 1: It looks like rookie seventh round pick Kyle and Hill
Speaker 1: will be the first option on kickoff return. And now
Speaker 1: a new punter is also in the fold, and that
Speaker 1: is Corey B. Horkes. And I do have to apologize
Speaker 1: because I believe I was saying his name wrong when
Speaker 1: we brought it up last week. So be Horkes is
Speaker 1: the proper pronuncia pronunciation. We got a chance to to
Speaker 1: meet with him. He spoke to the media for the
Speaker 1: first time since he arrived in Green Bay on Monday
Speaker 1: after practice, and uh, a young man who's he's excited
Speaker 1: to have this opportunity here in Green Bay. He's go
Speaker 1: goes from you know, Buffalo, a f C runner up,
Speaker 1: to now he's he's with the the Green Bay Packers,
Speaker 1: a two time NFC runner up here and the Packers
Speaker 1: bottom line is they're expecting um Behorkes to be an
Speaker 1: upgrade in this area on specialty. It was the number
Speaker 1: one thing that Brian Goodkin said after they made this
Speaker 1: trade was they felt like this was an opportunity to
Speaker 1: get better at that position. And if you go off
Speaker 1: of what he's done in the past, that I think
Speaker 1: you you'd have to agree with that. Um Bork has
Speaker 1: It's funny too, a so cal kid that's sort of
Speaker 1: been adopted by the cold. I mean, with with him
Speaker 1: punting for three years in Buffalo and having success there,
Speaker 1: now it's going to be punting in one of the
Speaker 1: more you know, tumultuous environments in the National Football League.
Speaker 1: But that being said, I mean the numbers jump off
Speaker 1: the page to you. I mean last year, you know,
Speaker 1: first and gross average breaks the Buffalo's record. And it
Speaker 1: wasn't just gross average, I mean he was fifth in
Speaker 1: the NFL and ned as well. And I really enjoyed
Speaker 1: that seventeen minute press conference we had with him, and
Speaker 1: I mentioned this to you afterwards. It almost reminded me
Speaker 1: more of the days in which would be in the
Speaker 1: locker room you're just kind of huddled around a guy
Speaker 1: and you're just not really pelting him with questions, but
Speaker 1: we're just having a conversation. I haven't having a chat
Speaker 1: with a new guy that that's new in the locker
Speaker 1: room and in the number one question you even asked
Speaker 1: him of this, and I think it was a lot
Speaker 1: of on the forefront of a lot of people's minds.
Speaker 1: Is case, So this guy has this season with Buffalo,
Speaker 1: looks really good, but then he gets nontender, and then
Speaker 1: he goes a month without signing, and then he goes
Speaker 1: to Los Angeles to go up against Johnny Hecker where
Speaker 1: he doesn't have a guaranteed job by any means. This
Speaker 1: is one of the this is one of the top
Speaker 1: punters in the league. From Yeah, and Biorke has said
Speaker 1: it himself. I mean, this is in dang near impossible,
Speaker 1: you know, task of trying to unseat Hecker. But the
Speaker 1: fact of the matter is, at the end of camp
Speaker 1: it was Hecker that said he was even wondering if
Speaker 1: maybe the Rams would move on from him and go
Speaker 1: with this guy. After he has a fifty one point
Speaker 1: nine net average and has four of his seven punts
Speaker 1: go inside the twenty two of those punts in mile
Speaker 1: high dying at the one yard line. That's a heck
Speaker 1: of a performance by Bork has to make this a
Speaker 1: really solid competition. Yeah, he had a big time preseason
Speaker 1: for for for the Rams. No doubt about it, and
Speaker 1: for him to be able to carve out a job
Speaker 1: is he said it, It wasn't so much just about Okay, well,
Speaker 1: where do I want to go and where do I
Speaker 1: want to punt? It was about where am I going
Speaker 1: to be able to improve myself. He talked about learning
Speaker 1: the on the Bananic punt from Hacker, that sideways Ausee
Speaker 1: style punt um, just little things like that to make
Speaker 1: him a better punch for when that next opportunity did come.
Speaker 1: And for him, as he said at the end of
Speaker 1: his presser, he hopes it's in Green Bay, and he
Speaker 1: hopes for it's you know, in the long term and
Speaker 1: years to come. Yeah. Absolutely, Well, the Packers packers hoping
Speaker 1: to be better in all phases on special teams and
Speaker 1: as they head into this week one matchup with the Saints,
Speaker 1: I thought we could touch on what you and I
Speaker 1: see as as as maybe some key matchups as far
Speaker 1: as Green Bay versus New Orleans. Here, the first one
Speaker 1: that jumps out at me is the veteran defensive coordinator
Speaker 1: Dennis Allen for the New Orleans Saints coming up with
Speaker 1: a scheme he obviously has to deal with Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: but he's looking at an offensive line that is most
Speaker 1: likely going to have two rookies on the interior in
Speaker 1: second round pick Josh Meyers at center, fourth round pick
Speaker 1: Royce Newman at right guard. So this you know what
Speaker 1: the Saints decided to do, how they want to test
Speaker 1: the Packers rookies, as far as the pressure packages, their
Speaker 1: defensive fronts, all of that. I think that is something
Speaker 1: that will definitely be watched very very closely in the
Speaker 1: early stages of this game, first quarter, second quarter, because
Speaker 1: Dennis Allen's plan very much could change depending on how
Speaker 1: these young offensive linemen for the Packers respond to those
Speaker 1: initial tests. Don't think the first two quarters are going
Speaker 1: to really be a huge indicator I think of how
Speaker 1: this game is going to go. And you know, the
Speaker 1: biggest question I have, without knowing the full tendencies of
Speaker 1: Allen in terms of how much he blitz his versus
Speaker 1: you know, just even man pressure, is seeing what kind
Speaker 1: of games they run early on, what kind of stunts.
Speaker 1: You know, what is Cam Jordan doing, What is Marcus
Speaker 1: Davenport doing, A guy that you know, in some ways
Speaker 1: will always sort of be tied to the Packers because
Speaker 1: that was the trade the Saints made to go up
Speaker 1: and get him three years ago when Green Bay ultimately
Speaker 1: ended up with JayR Alexander, which has worked out pretty well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's how strongly New Orleans felt about Davenport at
Speaker 1: the time, and it understand ending how they use these
Speaker 1: pieces that the big difference. Mike, you know, you and
Speaker 1: I for the last decade could talk about how good
Speaker 1: this offense has been and how multiple it is and
Speaker 1: the way they use running backs and they always have
Speaker 1: a top you know five, top three receiver in the
Speaker 1: league in this in that receiving room. But the difference
Speaker 1: maker that brought the New Orleans back to prominence here
Speaker 1: the last five years has been the defense. There were
Speaker 1: a lot of years where they put up a lot
Speaker 1: of points, they put up a lot of yards, but
Speaker 1: they were also combating that with giving up a lot
Speaker 1: of yards, giving up a lot of points. Since Dennis
Speaker 1: Allen has been installed there, he's changed the culture. That
Speaker 1: unit isn't just an offensive, air it out, you know
Speaker 1: team anymore. They're balanced and it's one of the reasons
Speaker 1: why they've been able to make these runs that they have.
Speaker 1: Packers are going to be an interesting spot with quite
Speaker 1: lightly although it's not confirmed, two rookies in the starting
Speaker 1: offensive line in Week one for the first time in
Speaker 1: fifteen years. Um, that's gonna be huge on Josh Myers.
Speaker 1: But as I mentioned that I wrote this an inbox
Speaker 1: to Mike, Myers has been preparing for this since May.
Speaker 1: It's not like this was creeping up where it just
Speaker 1: got surprised there, you know, thrown on them like it
Speaker 1: was with Corey Lensley in two thousand and fourteen. He
Speaker 1: knew this was coming and this is why the preparation
Speaker 1: was put in place to get him ready for this moment. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: both of these teams have a key member of their
Speaker 1: offense on the pup list and not able to play
Speaker 1: here at the start of the season. Obviously, for the
Speaker 1: Packers that's left tackled David bak Try. For the New
Speaker 1: Orleans Saints that is star wide receiver Michael Thomas. Now.
Speaker 1: Thomas also missed the Packers Saints matchup from a year
Speaker 1: ago in Week three. But one matchup that we are
Speaker 1: likely to see on Sunday that we did not see
Speaker 1: last year down in New Orleans is Davante Adams against
Speaker 1: Marshawn Lattimore. The Star cornerback for the Saints. Adams obviously
Speaker 1: missed the game against the Saints last year. He was
Speaker 1: not on the field. The Packers still put up thirty
Speaker 1: seven points, which was pretty darn impressive when you're missing
Speaker 1: your number one wide out. But this Adams Lattimore matchup
Speaker 1: is I mean, Fox is going to have an ISOK
Speaker 1: camera on those two. I mean, any time that they're
Speaker 1: lined up across from one another, they're gonna have a
Speaker 1: camera on them every single snaw. Lattimore is a He's
Speaker 1: an extreme, extremely talented player, you know, fun to watch
Speaker 1: and and certainly that's gonna be a big battle and
Speaker 1: really how Allen and how the Saints want to use
Speaker 1: him in this game if he's just gonna be completely
Speaker 1: traveling with him. Uh, you know, there's been a lot
Speaker 1: of questions about the as as talented as Lattimore is,
Speaker 1: the overall depth of that position group for the Saints
Speaker 1: right now. Um, certainly they've been making some moves here
Speaker 1: the last few days, trying to you know, create some
Speaker 1: more experience and some more options. But that that's where
Speaker 1: it's going to really be, you know, an indicator of
Speaker 1: where this game is going to go, because Adams can
Speaker 1: move around a lot and Lattimore can move around a lot.
Speaker 1: So seeing exactly how those chess pieces fall into place.
Speaker 1: Uh and and as I've said all along, Mike, how
Speaker 1: the Packers decided to put what other four players around
Speaker 1: the field with Adams, the packages, the combinations. You and
Speaker 1: I don't know that we saw everything during training camp.
Speaker 1: We saw them, you know, multitude of players to the
Speaker 1: last week of training camp, Ecuonemia st. Brown was taken
Speaker 1: first team reps. So what is the ultimate concoction that
Speaker 1: Green Bay storms up? And and where exactly is Latimore
Speaker 1: to counteract that? Yeah, well, what's your what's your feeling?
Speaker 1: Because this is week one, we just we really don't
Speaker 1: have a whole lot to go on, So I'm just
Speaker 1: throwing this at you. What what's your feeling on what's
Speaker 1: gonna really look different with the Saints offense with Jamis
Speaker 1: Winston at quarterback? How Winston plays quarterback is my number
Speaker 1: one question because the talents there, Mike. It always has
Speaker 1: been you don't throw for five thousand yards in a
Speaker 1: season without having you know, the ability. But it's always
Speaker 1: been the takeaways, right, It's been the turnovers, It's been
Speaker 1: the interceptions. Can you avoid those moments in which you
Speaker 1: you shoot yourself in the foot with Drew Brees every
Speaker 1: single time you and I stepped up here, every single
Speaker 1: time we did on script, and we talked about pressuring him,
Speaker 1: you know, reducing the shot clock. The incredible thing about
Speaker 1: Breeze and Philip Rivers had this too, was that they
Speaker 1: could get the ball out quickly, but they also got
Speaker 1: it out safely, and that's not easy to do in
Speaker 1: the past. First offense and being able to understand where
Speaker 1: your help is in your hot routes. Can Winston play
Speaker 1: faster in place safer than he did in Tampa Bay,
Speaker 1: because ultimately that's the only reason he ever lost a
Speaker 1: starting job. That's gonna be really intriguing because they have weapons,
Speaker 1: they have Dane. You know, we know what Sean Payton
Speaker 1: can do. Can Winston executed. Yeah. The big thing that
Speaker 1: we're going to see in a general sense in terms
Speaker 1: of how the Saints offenses, excuse me, is going to
Speaker 1: look different is you have a quarterback who can scramble
Speaker 1: and get out of trouble. Whereas for years now Drew Brees,
Speaker 1: I mean, very shifty in the pocket, could always find
Speaker 1: his throwing lane. And you know, his height was never
Speaker 1: really an issue. I mean, this is a Hall of Fame,
Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame guy, But Drew Brees was not
Speaker 1: going to take off and run for ten or twelve
Speaker 1: yards on third and six, right, I mean, Jamis Winston
Speaker 1: can do that. So from a defensive game planning ampoint,
Speaker 1: you have to take that into account with him. But
Speaker 1: obviously the wins and losses for Winston over the course
Speaker 1: of his career, for the most part, it's it's always
Speaker 1: been determined by the turnovers. I mean he's had he's
Speaker 1: had four hundred yard games and and you know, if
Speaker 1: he throws three interceptions in a four hundred yard game,
Speaker 1: he still would usually lose. And uh and when you
Speaker 1: know when Winston's had success against Green Bay too, I
Speaker 1: mean they know how dangerous this guy can be. And
Speaker 1: also you know would be you're amiss. You have to
Speaker 1: say it every time you see the Saints. As long
Speaker 1: as Taysom Hill that number seven is on the field,
Speaker 1: there's available for the Saints. How he's used now because
Speaker 1: it's a pretty clear, narrow vision now for what they
Speaker 1: want to do. Winston's the starting quarterback, you know, so
Speaker 1: you imagine you're gonna see more gadget type plays with
Speaker 1: Hill again. Where he's lined up and how they're utilizing
Speaker 1: him is also gonna be something Green Bay is gonna
Speaker 1: have to be aware of. They are much faster in
Speaker 1: the backfield in terms of the signal color position than
Speaker 1: they were in the past, no question about that. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: and and what Packers fans obviously remember from last year's
Speaker 1: game was the mom ster performance by Alvin Kamara because
Speaker 1: Packers had a hard time tackling him. Obviously, that offense
Speaker 1: is designed to get him the ball in space, with
Speaker 1: those opportunities to get yards after the catch, to break tackles,
Speaker 1: you know, all of those kinds of things. And you know, yes,
Speaker 1: the Packers did win that game last year, they also
Speaker 1: gave up thirty points and Kamara was was almost like
Speaker 1: a one man show on some of those drives for
Speaker 1: New Orleans. So you have to believe that. You know
Speaker 1: that film, Joe Berry's digested it, He's looked at it.
Speaker 1: He's got to come up with a way to to
Speaker 1: not let Alvin Kamara just have those stretches where he
Speaker 1: kind of takes over. Yeah, and that's gonna be on
Speaker 1: the inside. Backers it's gonna be on those slot cornerbacks,
Speaker 1: and and how they want to make sure that you know,
Speaker 1: you have tabs on this guy at all times. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be curious seeing how this offense operates now that
Speaker 1: Breeze has gone in regards to Kamara, because it did
Speaker 1: seem like, especially the last season, as Breeze got older,
Speaker 1: he started leaning on Kamara more and more actually in
Speaker 1: the passing game. And I think from that you learned, Okay,
Speaker 1: this guy we knew since day one he could catch
Speaker 1: the ball, but just how dynamic he is in space,
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a principle that's gonna hold true here
Speaker 1: going forward, and without Michael Thomas available, he's the playmaker.
Speaker 1: He is the guy everybody has their eyes on um.
Speaker 1: And it's funny, you don't really go into a lot
Speaker 1: of games where it's like, okay, it's it's you know,
Speaker 1: a lot on the running back and yeah, they have
Speaker 1: some receivers, but it's this guy here that you know,
Speaker 1: in terms of a pass catcher, he's going to need
Speaker 1: all your attention. Yeah, absolutely, Well, we'll get down to
Speaker 1: some more specifics, the brass text, so to speak, the
Speaker 1: keys to victory and what I will be in our
Speaker 1: show later this week as we get a little closer
Speaker 1: to Sunday's kickoff, But I'm already excited. I don't know
Speaker 1: about you, but it's just all the work you put
Speaker 1: in in the off season. We've seen it all. You
Speaker 1: get through training camp, you get through the preseason games,
Speaker 1: and yes, it's a long season, seventeen games and everything,
Speaker 1: even longer than it's normally been. But there's a lot
Speaker 1: of excitement around Week one. You can't help it get
Speaker 1: fired up. And this is, without question, this is an
Speaker 1: easier matchup for Green babying in Jacksonville. But there is
Speaker 1: a part of me that's like, Man, if you could
Speaker 1: have had this game, you know, inside the super Dome
Speaker 1: with that crowd, the first time they would have been back,
Speaker 1: you know, in a year, in that environment, it would
Speaker 1: have been so cool to hear it, to see it.
Speaker 1: Jacksonville's Jacksonville. You're gonna enjoy the game for what it is.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, it is football.
Speaker 1: We're back to week one and incredible, Mike, that's six seven,
Speaker 1: eight months. How fast it you know, passes by? And
Speaker 1: right here again you have a two thousand one season
Speaker 1: staring in the face. Yeah, very curious to see just
Speaker 1: how many Packers fans are in that stadium in Jacksonville
Speaker 1: on Sunday afternoon. It could be very very interesting crowd
Speaker 1: mixture down there in Florida. But with that, we're going
Speaker 1: to call it a wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted.
Speaker 1: Be sure to follow all of our coverage of the
Speaker 1: team here in Week one leading up to the season opener.
Speaker 1: We'll have it all for you on Packers dot com.
Speaker 1: For West, I'm Mike, Thank you for tuning, and everybody,
Speaker 1: we will see you next time.