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Speaker 1: The last time we had Senator Tommy Tuberville on the show,

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Speaker 1: of that and more with Senator Tommy Tubberville from Alabama.

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned well, Senator, it's great to have you back

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Speaker 1: I can't believe it's come so soon. It's the years

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Speaker 2: Well, let's go back to how they started. It started

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Speaker 2: I've been here that tries to change and transition our

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Speaker 1: Why do you think they want to do it, because,

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Speaker 1: as you pointed out, it's such a small percentage of

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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, they can never done it had

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Speaker 2: I think they've gotten to the point where they saw

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Speaker 2: now though, they're finding hey, wait a minute, that audience

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Speaker 2: think next year it's one of the things that's going

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Speaker 2: make a difference and us going back to the American values,

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Speaker 2: this nonsense of men can have babies. There's sixty four

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Speaker 2: different genders. Men should be able to compete in women's

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Speaker 2: What's right in this country is to go by moral

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Speaker 1: No, I agree. I do worry a little bit though,

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Speaker 1: We've had some tough election cycles, these last three election cycles,

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Speaker 1: Trump in jail. We don't know how successful they're going

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Speaker 2: Oh, there's a big danger. And if we let our

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Speaker 2: We're in twenty twenty. What I've seen since I've been

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Speaker 2: That's a state problem. But we have made sure that

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Speaker 2: lot of these states have woken up and looked at

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Speaker 2: what happened with the Attorney General Bill Barr after the election.

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Speaker 2: There was a lot of problems. They didn't want to

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Speaker 2: we're just not going to get into that. We're already

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Speaker 2: having some rights across the country. It's time we stand

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Speaker 2: you're exactly right, we can't get complacent. We have to

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Speaker 2: look forward. We've got to get values back in this country.

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Speaker 1: We've got to get a lot back. It's really falling apart. Senator,

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate you taking the time to join the show.

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Speaker 1: It's always an honor to have you on.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, sir, Thank you ladies, and Merry Christmas.

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Speaker 1: That was Senator Tommy tuber Bill. Appreciate him taking the

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Speaker 1: time to join the show. Appreciate you guys at home

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Speaker 1: for listening every Monday and Thursday, but you can listen

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Speaker 1: throughout the week. I want to thank John Cassio and

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Speaker 1: my producer for putting the show together. Until next time,