Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio. Man,
Speaker 1: Welcome back to Coast to Coast George Norri with you,
Speaker 1: Chuck Bergman back with us. A retired Salem, Massachusetts police officer.
Speaker 1: Thank you for serving. He is a third generation medium
Speaker 1: and recalls being able to communicate with the other side
Speaker 1: since the age of six. He has spent many years
Speaker 1: in development circles, learning meditation techniques that have helped to
Speaker 1: fine tune this incredible gift that he has. He has
Speaker 1: completed classes and Psychic Mediumship, Advanced Mediumship, and raiki. Chuck,
Speaker 1: welcome back to the program. How's the Psychic cop been
Speaker 1: doing really well? George? How are you doing it? Good
Speaker 1: to hear from you again. Everything's great, boyd this young
Speaker 1: age at five and six years old, How did this
Speaker 1: happen for you? It was a strange story. Where have
Speaker 1: all things to me? Being the psychic cop now five
Speaker 1: years old? I was at home playing all by myself.
Speaker 1: I went out in the backyard and of all things,
Speaker 1: I was trying to create a police uniform to wear.
Speaker 1: So I'm putting on a little I made a little
Speaker 1: gun belt thing. I made a badge at a tinfoil
Speaker 1: which kept falling off and falling off, and you know,
Speaker 1: being that young, I'll admit I started crying as a
Speaker 1: little boy because they couldn't get the badge to stay
Speaker 1: on my shirt. And then out of nowhere, I heard
Speaker 1: a man's voice, and you know, to this day, I
Speaker 1: can remember the purity of it. It was more like
Speaker 1: going to a movie theater like an Imax and having
Speaker 1: that beautiful, rich, pure sound come in. And it was
Speaker 1: a man's voice, and he used my name. He said,
Speaker 1: don't cry, Chuck. One day you'll be wearing a real badge.
Speaker 1: And it must have been like eighteen twenty years later,
Speaker 1: I did join the Salem Police Department, Salem, Massachusetts, which
Speaker 1: is known as the Witch City. And here's the AMaGA part.
Speaker 1: I grew up in Jacksonville, Florida, had no idea that
Speaker 1: there was a witch city, So how I ended up there,
Speaker 1: I'll never know. And he was right, he was very right.
Speaker 1: In fact, I've heard him only a few times, or
Speaker 1: what I call the voice. I've only heard that in
Speaker 1: my head a few times, and every time it's so
Speaker 1: dead on accurate, so pure, so rich, and with all
Speaker 1: the readings I do for people, I would say there's
Speaker 1: a small percentage of people that are willing to admit
Speaker 1: that they too hear the voice, but only at a
Speaker 1: critical time in their life. What's amazing, too, is you
Speaker 1: use this ability in your police work, didn't you, you know,
Speaker 1: not as a police officer. I did in a roundabout way.
Speaker 1: While I was developing. I would give readings to some
Speaker 1: of the co workers and some were on one side
Speaker 1: of the fence, others were on the other side of
Speaker 1: the fence. And the funny thing is I would have
Speaker 1: people come to my home, you know, police officers off duty,
Speaker 1: come to my home, have a reading, can connect with
Speaker 1: some very very what's the right word here, very touchy
Speaker 1: private readings, so incredible, so healing for them. They would
Speaker 1: leave and with the agreement that I didn't tell anyone
Speaker 1: they were at my house to begin with, so they
Speaker 1: didn't even want to admit that they came for reading.
Speaker 1: And they wouldn't back me up and say it was accurate.
Speaker 1: Everyone acted like, you know, never existed, right. Well, they
Speaker 1: kind of went with the idea that he's crazy, so
Speaker 1: we'll let it let it be, you know, let him
Speaker 1: do what he wants to do. But they loved getting readings,
Speaker 1: didn't they? They certainly did anybody else in your family
Speaker 1: have the ability? You know? Um, it's so funny. My
Speaker 1: mother had disability, and as I would develop and certain
Speaker 1: things happen, even as a child, she would turn me
Speaker 1: down and say, no, that's your imagination, or there's no
Speaker 1: one else in the room or whatever I'm relaying to her.
Speaker 1: And it wasn't until after my mother passed away and
Speaker 1: my mom is from England that I connected with some
Speaker 1: of my relatives over in England. That's when I found
Speaker 1: out she was a medium. So she didn't even want
Speaker 1: me to know. And then I dig a little deeper
Speaker 1: and find out her mother, my grandmother that I love
Speaker 1: so much, was also a medium. At what age, Chuck,
Speaker 1: did you tell them that you had this ability? How
Speaker 1: about that's the other way around, George? They told me
Speaker 1: it was a cute story where I don't know, probably
Speaker 1: about seven years old and I'm my grandmother had come
Speaker 1: over from England and she would do that like every
Speaker 1: second or third year, and when she would come over,
Speaker 1: she'd stay for a good six months old us and
Speaker 1: then you know, fly back home. So on the very
Speaker 1: first night of one of the visits, while I was
Speaker 1: very very young. You know, we all went to bed,
Speaker 1: and I come from a large family. You know, they're
Speaker 1: six of us, and grandma's watching us. Mom and dad
Speaker 1: saw an opportunity day number one. Grandma's here, we've got
Speaker 1: a babysitter. They took off for the night. So as
Speaker 1: our grandmother watching us. Now, I go to bed and
Speaker 1: I started seeing all these images in the bedroom while
Speaker 1: everyone else is, you know, my other brothers are sleeping.
Speaker 1: So I started screaming, help me, help me, help me,
Speaker 1: and my grandmother comes in, takes me by the hand,
Speaker 1: takes me into the living room. But she was extremely
Speaker 1: coy with it. She says, here, you want to watch TV?
Speaker 1: And would you like a slice of this apple? And
Speaker 1: you know, really calm and calming me down, that's all
Speaker 1: she was doing. Then she leaned in and said, why
Speaker 1: were you screaming? What was going on to grandma? There
Speaker 1: were five people standing around the bed and they were
Speaker 1: just staring at me. Oh okay, and then here you
Speaker 1: have it some more, you know, have this? Have that? Hey, Chuck?
Speaker 1: What did people look like? And when I described the
Speaker 1: male the female and their size and you know, the character,
Speaker 1: the features of their faces, and stuff like that. She
Speaker 1: knew each one of the spirits. They were friends of
Speaker 1: hers who had passed away, friends of hers from England
Speaker 1: that apparently had traveled with her, and for some reason
Speaker 1: knew that I'd be able to see them, and that
Speaker 1: kind of started everything for me. Had she seen them
Speaker 1: too in her own day, in her own day. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: my grandmother was I from what I've heard, was a
Speaker 1: very good medium. But like my mom, they only gave
Speaker 1: readings to their friends. They kept it quiet, and they
Speaker 1: were friends of my grandmother that went and you know,
Speaker 1: we're out in the open with I can see dead
Speaker 1: people and stuff like that. And those people ended up
Speaker 1: in insane asylums. That was their way of handling something
Speaker 1: that they couldn't deal with. But they weren't insane or
Speaker 1: they went insane. They were not insane at all. They
Speaker 1: were doing what I'm doing, but society didn't know how
Speaker 1: to deal with it. Just locked them up. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: locked them up and several died in prison because of it.
Speaker 1: Was it Helen, Oh, you may know her last name,
Speaker 1: I can't think of it right now. She was the
Speaker 1: medium from England that when the British Navy's submarine had
Speaker 1: been sunk off the coast. The sailors went to this
Speaker 1: woman named Helen I want to say Duncan. Now I'll
Speaker 1: have to look to name up later, but anyway, she
Speaker 1: could hear the voices of all these different sailors and
Speaker 1: they formed a line, she said, in spirit. But they
Speaker 1: would give phone numbers, they would give the names that
Speaker 1: the parents would call the you know, the sailors by
Speaker 1: and all this private information. And she too got arrested
Speaker 1: and locked up. So it just wasn't looked at. Was
Speaker 1: that Helen Duncan. You know, I wanted to say Helen Duncan,
Speaker 1: but then I wasn't sure if Helen Duncan was the actress,
Speaker 1: so you know, I had to know she was. Helen
Speaker 1: Duncan was a Scottish medium who was imprisoned for a
Speaker 1: fraudulent claims of witchcraft or something. Yeah, and if you read,
Speaker 1: if you I read up on some of the things
Speaker 1: that she did do, and it wasn't they called it witchcraft.
Speaker 1: It was it was she wasn't no good validations with
Speaker 1: people that had died on that submarine, and the British
Speaker 1: Navy kept it quiet that their submarine had even been
Speaker 1: sunk because the at that time, the we'll just put
Speaker 1: it this way. The public were down on the government anyway,
Speaker 1: so they were trying to keep it secret, and she
Speaker 1: kind of let the cat out of the back. So
Speaker 1: she certainly made a lot of enemies by saying, you know,
Speaker 1: the submarine has been sunk and these young men have died.
Speaker 1: I think the ship was called the Barham. I believe
Speaker 1: you're right. Yes, yeah, she was good at in her day.
Speaker 1: She was she wasn't. The story goes that she was
Speaker 1: actually giving readings while in prison and while she was
Speaker 1: in a deep trance. And I don't go into trance.
Speaker 1: She was in deep trance and was startled and because
Speaker 1: of that actually died of a heart attack. How do
Speaker 1: you get into your mode, Chuck, I don't even understand it, George.
Speaker 1: But I've been in public places where someone will say
Speaker 1: something and immediately I come out with connecting with their
Speaker 1: loved one says, I don't even have to get into it.
Speaker 1: And I've had what I call reading on demand where
Speaker 1: maybe shouldn't say this on your show. But we were
Speaker 1: out having a few beers while putting up out side
Speaker 1: structure in my backyard, and I was dirty sweaty and
Speaker 1: and I'm not much of a drinker, but I had
Speaker 1: maybe two beers and me and then I get a phone.
Speaker 1: You know, my wife says, Hey, there's a person on
Speaker 1: the phone. They really need a reading bad. Could you
Speaker 1: come in and do it? So it was funny to
Speaker 1: leave that environment, go and pick up the phone, and
Speaker 1: let's just start giving a reading when we take calls
Speaker 1: later a next hour, Chuck, do you give readings to
Speaker 1: callers or do you just prefer a question? I can
Speaker 1: give readings, you know. Well, we're gonna keep it on
Speaker 1: the short side. Yes, like we've done before. Do you
Speaker 1: remember cucumber? If I say that word, I do not. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we had you had me on and I the first
Speaker 1: reading can be the hard one. That's where I'm trying
Speaker 1: to tune in. And I in my head heard and
Speaker 1: we had a truck driver on and his wife had
Speaker 1: passed away, and I asked him, I said, does cucumber
Speaker 1: mean anything? But what struck me funny was the way
Speaker 1: you repeated a cucumber, Like, what the hell? What are
Speaker 1: you talking about? Right? Yeah? You made it look like Chuck,
Speaker 1: I think you've lost it. And he said, well, you know,
Speaker 1: my son and daughter are coming over this weekend and
Speaker 1: I've got a garden now back. They're going to teach
Speaker 1: me how to play cucumbers. Wow, and you freaked out,
Speaker 1: You said, what, Yeah, now I remember. I was wondering
Speaker 1: if you did remember that. You do so many you know,
Speaker 1: and I'm but you're the only cucumber person we've ever
Speaker 1: dealt with. Okay, Well, that's what I that's a good statement.
Speaker 1: I love the uniqueness of a reading, you know, when
Speaker 1: you can come up with something that's so unique it
Speaker 1: wouldn't fit anyone else. That's what I like. Exactly, Chuck,
Speaker 1: how how old were you when you really started kicking
Speaker 1: this into high gear? I would say probably early thirties.
Speaker 1: And everything just happened by accident. As you know, there
Speaker 1: are no accidents, but all of a sudden, I would
Speaker 1: be driving in my patrol car and I would get
Speaker 1: almost like it's like trying to remember a movie and
Speaker 1: you remember a movie. You might see a scene in
Speaker 1: your in your mind about a certain scene that oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember this movie. On that idea, I'd be driving
Speaker 1: in the patrol car and I would see an intersection
Speaker 1: and I would see cars that have hit each other
Speaker 1: and smoking and telephone wires down, you name it, and
Speaker 1: I would go, wait a minute, that's behind me. I
Speaker 1: would actually turn my car around and start heading back
Speaker 1: to that area, only to get a radio message on
Speaker 1: the way twenty four We've got a real bad accident
Speaker 1: on so and so Street, you know, And sure enough
Speaker 1: it would all unfold in front of me. So it's
Speaker 1: like it was seeing. Maybe I don't know things that
Speaker 1: are happening in real time, but I would pick up
Speaker 1: on it shortly after, right after it happened. Why did
Speaker 1: you wait until you retired as a police officer before
Speaker 1: you started using this ability? Probably because the day I
Speaker 1: got in trouble with the police chief over this. Ah,
Speaker 1: what happened to it? Yeah, I was in my office.
Speaker 1: I was a computer analyst at that time. We were
Speaker 1: in a new building, and he sent for me, you know,
Speaker 1: he said, I'd like to talk to you. And the
Speaker 1: funny part of the story is as I go into
Speaker 1: the chief's office, he's sitting behind his desk and behind
Speaker 1: him as a glass, you know, looking up to the outside.
Speaker 1: But in that glass I can see a reflection of
Speaker 1: his computer monitor. On the monitor is the James Vane
Speaker 1: website of which I had just been posted as a
Speaker 1: reputable CycL psychic medium on his website. Okay, so I
Speaker 1: couldn't really escape that. I'm thinking, who rated me out?
Speaker 1: Who told the chief? And that's a great honor too,
Speaker 1: by the way, he had very big honor, and in
Speaker 1: fact it was I'm still honored that he would keep
Speaker 1: me on for a number of years like he did.
Speaker 1: And I've you know, I've gone to see him many
Speaker 1: many times at different shows. But when the chief saw that,
Speaker 1: he looked at it and said, you know, he didn't
Speaker 1: know that I could see it. And I'm thinking, well,
Speaker 1: now I know why I'm here. So he says, we've
Speaker 1: got a little problem here. He says, you're carrying a
Speaker 1: gun and you're hearing voices. I said, yeah, I know
Speaker 1: what you're talking about. And then we went into it
Speaker 1: and he said, you know, people don't really necessarily believe
Speaker 1: in all this stuff. That's what I turned and on
Speaker 1: the uniform, on our uniform, the police patch, which Salem
Speaker 1: still uses, is a witch on a broomstick on the
Speaker 1: police patch. If you look up Salem Math Police, their
Speaker 1: patch is a witch riding on a broomstick. And not
Speaker 1: only is it on the patch. But it's on the
Speaker 1: door of the police car, you know, on the emblem.
Speaker 1: I said, well, we are in the which city? Chief?
Speaker 1: I mean, that was the logo. That was the logo.
Speaker 1: That's kind of the theme of the city. You know,
Speaker 1: we had yet yet they frown on you doing mediumship.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, what was that, But they frown on you
Speaker 1: doing mediumship? Yes, they did. Well. One thing I'm going
Speaker 1: to say, and I love the chief. He was a
Speaker 1: great guy. He um. He wasn't sure when he went
Speaker 1: into policing if he wanted to be a police officer
Speaker 1: or go into the church and be a priest. Big difference,
Speaker 1: big difference. He wasn't sure which path to take, and
Speaker 1: he chose the police. How soon after he had that
Speaker 1: meeting with you, did you retire? I would say probably
Speaker 1: ten years later. I did retire. Oh okay, all right.
Speaker 1: So I was getting very well known in the area
Speaker 1: for doing you know what I'm doing, And I really
Speaker 1: didn't do any cases other than because I was a
Speaker 1: computer analyst and I worked in special operations. I had
Speaker 1: free run of the building pretty much, so I would
Speaker 1: go and shoot the breeze with the detectives, but using
Speaker 1: psychic ability and picking up on you not only body language,
Speaker 1: but body energy and stuff like that. When they would
Speaker 1: be interviewing different people for you know, major major crimes,
Speaker 1: I would conveniently go into that office and start working
Speaker 1: on a computer that didn't need to be worked on,
Speaker 1: but I could sit there and do my thing, tune
Speaker 1: it up a little while while I'm also reading the
Speaker 1: people that are talking. And then when everything, you know,
Speaker 1: when they people left and you know, the suspects left,
Speaker 1: and I've got a few minutes to kind of analyze
Speaker 1: how do I feel about this? I would actually write
Speaker 1: it down on a notepad, like this one is telling
Speaker 1: the truth, This one's telling the truth, this one person
Speaker 1: wasn't even there. I would put what I was picking
Speaker 1: up on the whole time, keep taking notes, and then
Speaker 1: run it by whoever was handling the case. And most
Speaker 1: of the time, almost i'd say ninety percent of the time,
Speaker 1: I was right on key with what I was picking
Speaker 1: up and what turned out to be a reality with
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