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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio. Man,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Coast to Coast George Norri with you,

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Speaker 1: Chuck Bergman back with us. A retired Salem, Massachusetts police officer.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for serving. He is a third generation medium

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Speaker 1: and recalls being able to communicate with the other side

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Speaker 1: since the age of six. He has spent many years

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Speaker 1: in development circles, learning meditation techniques that have helped to

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Speaker 1: fine tune this incredible gift that he has. He has

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Speaker 1: completed classes and Psychic Mediumship, Advanced Mediumship, and raiki. Chuck,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to the program. How's the Psychic cop been

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Speaker 1: doing really well? George? How are you doing it? Good

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Speaker 1: to hear from you again. Everything's great, boyd this young

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Speaker 1: age at five and six years old, How did this

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Speaker 1: happen for you? It was a strange story. Where have

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Speaker 1: all things to me? Being the psychic cop now five

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Speaker 1: years old? I was at home playing all by myself.

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Speaker 1: I went out in the backyard and of all things,

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Speaker 1: I was trying to create a police uniform to wear.

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Speaker 1: So I'm putting on a little I made a little

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Speaker 1: being that young, I'll admit I started crying as a

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Speaker 1: little boy because they couldn't get the badge to stay

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Speaker 1: on my shirt. And then out of nowhere, I heard

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Speaker 1: a man's voice, and you know, to this day, I

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Speaker 1: can remember the purity of it. It was more like

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Speaker 1: a man's voice, and he used my name. He said,

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Speaker 1: And it must have been like eighteen twenty years later,

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Speaker 1: I did join the Salem Police Department, Salem, Massachusetts, which

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Speaker 1: is known as the Witch City. And here's the AMaGA part.

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Speaker 1: I grew up in Jacksonville, Florida, had no idea that

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Speaker 1: there was a witch city, So how I ended up there,

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Speaker 1: I'll never know. And he was right, he was very right.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I've heard him only a few times, or

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Speaker 1: what I call the voice. I've only heard that in

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Speaker 1: dead on accurate, so pure, so rich, and with all

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Speaker 1: the readings I do for people, I would say there's

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Speaker 1: a small percentage of people that are willing to admit

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Speaker 1: that they too hear the voice, but only at a

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Speaker 1: critical time in their life. What's amazing, too, is you

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Speaker 1: use this ability in your police work, didn't you, you know,

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Speaker 1: not as a police officer. I did in a roundabout way.

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Speaker 1: While I was developing. I would give readings to some

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Speaker 1: come to my home, have a reading, can connect with

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Speaker 1: some very very what's the right word here, very touchy

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Speaker 1: private readings, so incredible, so healing for them. They would

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Speaker 1: leave and with the agreement that I didn't tell anyone

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Speaker 1: And they wouldn't back me up and say it was accurate.

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Speaker 1: Everyone acted like, you know, never existed, right. Well, they

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Speaker 1: do what he wants to do. But they loved getting readings,

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Speaker 1: didn't they? They certainly did anybody else in your family

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Speaker 1: about that's the other way around, George? They told me

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Speaker 1: So I started screaming, help me, help me, help me,

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Speaker 1: have it some more, you know, have this? Have that? Hey, Chuck?

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Speaker 1: What did people look like? And when I described the

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Speaker 1: too in her own day, in her own day. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: you get into your mode, Chuck, I don't even understand it, George.

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Speaker 1: But I've been in public places where someone will say

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Speaker 1: And I've had what I call reading on demand where

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Speaker 1: let's just start giving a reading when we take calls

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Speaker 1: later a next hour, Chuck, do you give readings to

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Speaker 1: remember cucumber? If I say that word, I do not. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think you've lost it. And he said, well, you know,

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Speaker 1: me how to play cucumbers. Wow, and you freaked out,

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Speaker 1: You said, what, Yeah, now I remember. I was wondering

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Speaker 1: and I'm but you're the only cucumber person we've ever

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