WEBVTT - Hour 2-Doug Gottlieb & Dan Beyer Guest Hosting

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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<v Speaker 2>What a good morning to you, Dan Patrick Show, Fox

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<v Speaker 2>Sports Radio. iHeartRadio app it's a Friday. I just want

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<v Speaker 2>you to know, like, I know we're not gaming the

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<v Speaker 2>system here Jay stew but I feel like we're gaming

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<v Speaker 2>way tire buying should be. I'm gonna give you a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of little personal thing here guys for my guys

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<v Speaker 2>at tyraq because they're awesome. So I have my car,

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<v Speaker 2>had a little air conditioning issue with my car. So

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<v Speaker 2>upon doing the whole inspection of the car, they're like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>we want to replace your tires. It's like why, Like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know your tire sensors aren't working because the rims

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<v Speaker 2>that you have. It's like no, no, no, no, I got

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<v Speaker 2>my tires from ti Raq. I just I have no

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<v Speaker 2>connection with Continental. I just know that I've had this

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<v Speaker 2>set of Continentals previously and they lasted like fifty thousand miles,

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<v Speaker 2>which on my car and the way I drive is

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<v Speaker 2>unheard of. So until further notice, I'm a Continental tire.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a Cottonaal tire anyway. And then they told me

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<v Speaker 2>how much it costs, Like, no Ah, only get my

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<v Speaker 2>tires from Tiraq because they're literally half the price of

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<v Speaker 2>what you were trying to charge me.

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<v Speaker 3>I can.

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<v Speaker 2>I can make do with not having the guide telling

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<v Speaker 2>me I got a flat tire. I know what a

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<v Speaker 2>flat tire sounds and feels like. I've lived, you know, however,

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<v Speaker 2>many years, thirty plus years as a driver, not needing

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<v Speaker 2>that tire gauge in the car? Some good?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think there's training for those shops. This is

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<v Speaker 3>how you're gonna try to get to add on the service.

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<v Speaker 3>I worked at retail and college and the mall, and

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<v Speaker 3>that was always the big one. Try to get the

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<v Speaker 3>multiple the multiple places.

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<v Speaker 2>Hold on, what where? Come on?

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<v Speaker 3>Give what you did? Open the door?

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<v Speaker 2>He the door didn't he? Where'd you are.

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<v Speaker 3>East Town Mall, Madison, Wisconsin, Champs Sporting Goods. I love Champs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, all right, Peter Champs, right, Champs has gone right there? No,

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're still around. Yeah, maybe there's like foot Action,

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<v Speaker 2>foot locker, Champs, what else? They all like morphed and

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<v Speaker 2>then like you're East the East Bay, another Wisconsin company

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<v Speaker 2>all kind of morphed into that. Now man, now Champs,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to wear that.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to wear that.

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<v Speaker 2>What was the polo? Just Polo and Khaki's is cool.

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<v Speaker 2>What was the discount? That's here's the big question.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was fifteen percent.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, still good enough for me. The Poilo story was

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<v Speaker 3>you buy a pair of shoes, I need you to

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<v Speaker 3>walk away with either some shoe protecting or some socks. Definitely,

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<v Speaker 3>that was like that was the main thing. So when

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<v Speaker 3>your take your car into these shops, that to your point,

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<v Speaker 3>like you're like, I'll just trust tirec thinking.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so glad you brought that up. So I'm driving

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<v Speaker 2>with my son yesterday and he's like all he wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to do is connect his phone to the car to

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<v Speaker 2>the OX to play Uh. He loves rap. So I'm like, hey, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>turn that off real quick. Let me just explain this

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<v Speaker 2>is what they try and do to you. No matter,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't matter, the car company doesn't matter. They're going

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<v Speaker 2>to try these little add ons like you gotta. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want I have a I have a place

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<v Speaker 2>where I get tires. I don't need tires. You're just

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<v Speaker 2>trying to get me to get new tires because I

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<v Speaker 2>need some tire guy Like, no, don't need it, like

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<v Speaker 2>they'll they'll try and get you. Make sure you see

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<v Speaker 2>read through the estimate before you do so. So I

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<v Speaker 2>also I did want to say this in regards to

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Pope. So the new head coach of Kentucky is

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be Mark Pope, and apparently, like Kentucky fans are

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<v Speaker 2>not happy about it. Like we went from like Dan

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<v Speaker 2>Hurley and Billy Donovan and uh maybe getting Scot Drew

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<v Speaker 2>to Mark Pope, who's one of their own but hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>had some long illustrious head coaching career. Can I let

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<v Speaker 2>you in on a secret you're getting closer doesn't matter anymore,

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<v Speaker 2>Location doesn't matter, History doesn't matter. Do you want to

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<v Speaker 2>know what matters? Money? Okay? And it's it's basically a

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<v Speaker 2>free market, and if the donors will supply him with nil,

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<v Speaker 2>which is buying players, then you'll be fine. Can he coach? Yeah, like,

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<v Speaker 2>well he has had a great recruiting class. Well, guess

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<v Speaker 2>what now he's got a bunch of money and he's

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<v Speaker 2>got Kentucky. So that goes out the window. Right. Unless

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<v Speaker 2>you have money, you have no chance in the SEC.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're gonna see players flocked to the SEC. They

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<v Speaker 2>have better players than the rest of the leagues. You

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<v Speaker 2>know why, because they have the most money and they

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<v Speaker 2>spend the most money. That's it anyway, So you can

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<v Speaker 2>be you your happiness doesn't really matter. It's the five

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<v Speaker 2>or six guys that are gonna they're gonna give the capital,

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<v Speaker 2>and as long as they keep giving money, you'll keep

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<v Speaker 2>getting players. And the second that they stop giving money,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't get the players. That's what happened at Arkansas

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<v Speaker 2>where Eric Musselman had been there. They went to two

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<v Speaker 2>Elite eights, and then they had a disappointing season, and

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<v Speaker 2>then whatever happened, the money people were like, we're not

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<v Speaker 2>giving money if he's the coach, and then you can't

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<v Speaker 2>have a team. So then he goes to USC and

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<v Speaker 2>they're like, we'll give it money. And they're bringing John

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<v Speaker 2>cal Perry and we'll give them money. Did you see

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<v Speaker 2>the press conference for Arkansas? They actually introduced Johnny Tyson,

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<v Speaker 2>who's who runs Tyson Chicken and Tyson Foods, actually introduced

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<v Speaker 2>the booster, like, hey, the guy who's responsible for it.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't do god anymore, not the president, right, not

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<v Speaker 2>the ad. Let's just cut through it. Okay, none of

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<v Speaker 2>this happens if not for your money. So Johnny wants

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<v Speaker 2>to stand up and you're essentially the facto owner of

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<v Speaker 2>this whole thing, why don't you stand up and take

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<v Speaker 2>about I love it too, Like I I love it

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<v Speaker 2>when the name is I mean it's his where it's

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<v Speaker 2>not like, hey, this is a David McHenry, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the head of Tyson, Like when you're the Tyson of Tyson.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's magnificent, it is. It's really it's really such

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<v Speaker 2>a power play, it really is. Yeah, let's all have

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<v Speaker 2>some Tyson Chicken and there's Johnny Tyson. This is the

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<v Speaker 2>Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio. So I I've

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<v Speaker 2>heard this from a couple of people, not a ton

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<v Speaker 2>of people, but the whole reaction to OJ Simpson and

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<v Speaker 2>Dying O J. Simpson Die and uh Shannon Sharp, who

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<v Speaker 2>of course has a podcast called uh uh is it

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<v Speaker 2>the Last Call?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 2>This is on Last Call? Or no called Nightcap? Do

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<v Speaker 2>I know it's Nightcap? This is a great I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think I've touched you guys. This So the genius behind

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<v Speaker 2>Colin Cowherd's I say genius. I'm not being sarcastic. I

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<v Speaker 2>think he's a brilliant dude. His name's Logan Sway. So

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<v Speaker 2>Logan is one of the guys who runs things for

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<v Speaker 2>Colin Cowherd's Volume podcast network and Colin's podcast has network

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<v Speaker 2>has Shannon Sharp and uh Shiadow, josinco Right, Chad John's

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<v Speaker 2>and their show is called Nightcap. Well, Nightcap was the

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<v Speaker 2>name we wanted to have for my TV show with

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<v Speaker 2>Ali LaForce. Logan was my producer, and they changed it

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<v Speaker 2>to leadoff It's the show at night, but it was

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<v Speaker 2>going to lead off the next day like it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a baseball analogy. But anyway, I always like Nightcap.

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<v Speaker 2>So this was Shannon Sharp who was reacting to He's

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<v Speaker 2>reacting to, Uh, oh you don't we don't have Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So did you see what did you hear what Shannon

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<v Speaker 2>Sharp said? He's like, listen, people who never wish ill

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<v Speaker 2>upon the dead? Right, Shannon Sharp and Chad Johnson both

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<v Speaker 2>saying never wish ill upon the dead when oj Simpson does.

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<v Speaker 3>Since when.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not allowed to wish ill upon the dead when

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<v Speaker 2>he's responsible for the deaths of two people, including his

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<v Speaker 2>ex wife. Really, no, no, no, no, no, I don't. I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not the bad guy for not mourning the loss

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<v Speaker 2>of the bad guy. Sorry, right, And this is not

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<v Speaker 2>like sports guy. This is not you know, Barry Bonds

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<v Speaker 2>who took steroids that's the only way he could pass

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<v Speaker 2>Henry Arn's record. This is not even Alex Rodriguez, like

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<v Speaker 2>the shadiest worst dude ever. Like, no, no, this is

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<v Speaker 2>a completely different level. We talk about sports and business

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<v Speaker 2>like the murderers. I think you got a special place

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<v Speaker 2>in hell there, right, But it's more than just being

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<v Speaker 2>responsible for and I believe, though found innocent in a

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<v Speaker 2>criminal court of law, I believe he did it. There's

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<v Speaker 2>the interview. You guys have all seen the interview right

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<v Speaker 2>where he went through the imaginary scenario. You know, if

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<v Speaker 2>in this scenario and then all of a sudden. You

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<v Speaker 2>can see him walking you through that night, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>got this nefarious Charlie figure.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I did see that.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude's just sociopath. Like, what are we all doing? You

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to, you don't have to when Charlie Manson died,

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<v Speaker 2>did you have to go like, you know, hey, listen,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll due respect to the passing of the Charlie Manson,

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<v Speaker 2>you murder somebody or responsible for or the softest I

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<v Speaker 2>could ever go is well at least he one knows

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<v Speaker 2>who did it. And for all of this time, for

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<v Speaker 2>the thirty years since the passing of his ex wife,

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<v Speaker 2>he couldn't give her family peace. And so now he

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<v Speaker 2>dies or supposed to go like, hey, you know he

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<v Speaker 2>died like, never speak ill upon the dead. No, so

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<v Speaker 2>horrible human being, he's got a first class ticket to hell.

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<v Speaker 2>Why am I supposed to feel bad? Why am I

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to not speak poorly of the dead. You're a

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<v Speaker 2>god fearing Christian man, Dad? Am I wrong?

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<v Speaker 1>Here?

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<v Speaker 2>Am I the bad guy for saying that?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think that you're the bad guy. I think

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<v Speaker 3>that there are a lot of people that share your

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<v Speaker 3>opinion on this. I do not share the opinion of

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<v Speaker 3>Shannon Sharp. I also think that Shannon Sharp because he

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<v Speaker 3>attacked Caitlyn Jenner.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, oh, that's what it was. It was about. It

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<v Speaker 2>was about Kaitlyn Jenner.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's where it ended up because she made a

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<v Speaker 3>comment on Twitter, and so I think that's where X

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<v Speaker 3>wherever it was, that's where I think that it was angled.

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<v Speaker 3>But I do not, I do not think. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>have the angst that you have, but I am in

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<v Speaker 3>lockstep with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just it's not about treating people. And like

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<v Speaker 2>there was a post on social media, which I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know to be true, but I don't know to be

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<v Speaker 2>a lie. Where there's a woman who said she signed

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<v Speaker 2>an NDA and she was at USC in the mid

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<v Speaker 2>nineties and he battered women there. You know, he had

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<v Speaker 2>the charges against him with Nicole. I'm simply talking about

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<v Speaker 2>murdering two people and never asking for forgiveness, never copping

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<v Speaker 2>to it, never helping anybody find who the real killers

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<v Speaker 2>were as he pledged to do. Like, the whole thing's

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<v Speaker 2>a complete sham. And I'm not going to sit here

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<v Speaker 2>and go just because he died, like my dad died

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<v Speaker 2>of cancer, Like I usually have great sympathy for anybody

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<v Speaker 2>who goes through that fight. You know, one of my

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<v Speaker 2>best friend's dad died of colon cancer, which I think,

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<v Speaker 2>what he what he died of, right, But I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>going to sit here and do the cancer thing and

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<v Speaker 2>go do the woe was Me thing for OJ Simpson. No, thanks,

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<v Speaker 2>I was.

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<v Speaker 3>I was not directly affected like ninety nine point nine

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<v Speaker 3>nine nine percent of us from this, although ninety nine

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<v Speaker 3>point nine nine nine percent of us were wrapped up

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<v Speaker 3>into the story. I'll make this quick, but when this

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<v Speaker 3>all happened, I hadn't moved out to southern California yet.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, when I did move out to southern California,

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<v Speaker 3>and where I lived wasn't too far from where the

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<v Speaker 3>murders took place. So when family came in, guess where

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<v Speaker 3>I would take them on a tour. That's one of

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<v Speaker 3>the streets we would go by, and I would say, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>this is where this happened about probably within the last

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<v Speaker 3>decade or so. I always remember that Ron Goldman's sibling

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<v Speaker 3>sister had personalized plates. I think his dad did as well.

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<v Speaker 3>In honoring Ron, and my wife and I were going

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<v Speaker 3>out to a restaurant where we lived and I saw

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<v Speaker 3>the personalized plate, and we went into the restaurant and

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<v Speaker 3>I saw the family they're eating, and I thought to

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<v Speaker 3>myself this, I thought, I'm going in there and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>looking for them. We know them, we know their faces.

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<v Speaker 3>Now this maybe twenty years thirty years past it. But

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<v Speaker 3>they're not having dinner, and they're probably getting unique stairs.

0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:42.760
<v Speaker 3>And they're not getting unique stairs because they're famous. They're

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<v Speaker 3>getting unique stairs because their son was murdered. And to

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<v Speaker 3>that point of just reality of it's got to be

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<v Speaker 3>a living hell to live every single day with that

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<v Speaker 3>memory that your son is not there, to the point

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<v Speaker 3>of now you can't even go in and get lost

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<v Speaker 3>in public because you're reminded about it because as people

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<v Speaker 3>see who you are, like it was such a different

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<v Speaker 3>Like just I just thought about it. I'm like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>don't look, don't stare, don't be awkward. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 3>a familiar face. It's different when you see a celebrity

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<v Speaker 3>at a restaurant, right, this is completely different, and if

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<v Speaker 3>you make eye contact, they know exactly why you're looking

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<v Speaker 3>at that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I I this is one of those. To me,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the time. Can heal some wounds not that one. Yep,

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<v Speaker 2>not that one. Sorry, not that one. And even if

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<v Speaker 2>it was, you know, I mean, part of it is

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<v Speaker 2>if you know, we know about the grisliness of the

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<v Speaker 2>of the murders. It's not like there was an argument

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<v Speaker 2>in a fight and somebody lost their temper, got scared

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<v Speaker 2>and fired off like a warning shot and like one

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<v Speaker 2>of those deal crime of passion, but just the idea

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<v Speaker 2>of whatever happened, whatever happened, the family was never given

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<v Speaker 2>piece and and to that that's just ultimate cruelty, ultimate

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<v Speaker 2>cruelty to not give people piece of what happened. It's like, look,

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<v Speaker 2>we can get over the fact that you got that,

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<v Speaker 2>you got off of the murder chart. Just tell us

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<v Speaker 2>what happens.

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<v Speaker 5>We just know.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know if you really want to know,

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<v Speaker 2>but you get so far deep into it and you

0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:26.720
<v Speaker 2>get to every you go through a trial, you see,

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<v Speaker 2>you wear every detail of it, so you kind of know,

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<v Speaker 2>just like, dude, come on, and then you carry on

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<v Speaker 2>this charade if I did it and in this in

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<v Speaker 2>this scenario, and you have every sort of detail, he's

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<v Speaker 2>the worst. He's the worst. No, death does not help you,

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<v Speaker 2>in my mind, it does not help you escape this thing. Eh,

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<v Speaker 2>you mean you tell me that you died of cancer

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<v Speaker 2>and you couldn't still tell everybody what really happened. Just

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<v Speaker 2>come just empty your soul because you don't have one.

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<v Speaker 2>So no, I don't feel sympathy. No, I yes, I

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<v Speaker 2>can speak poorly of the dead. I'm Doug Gottliebe's Dan

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<v Speaker 2>just got a great tweet from Kelly Lace. That's at

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<v Speaker 2>Dad too. Twin girls. Hey, by the way, happy congratulations.

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<v Speaker 2>I have twin girls. They turn eighteen on Sunday. How

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<v Speaker 2>old is your boy? Crazy? Anyway, says as a pro,

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<v Speaker 2>his worst day would be any average golfer's best day

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<v Speaker 2>at Augusta. Just like you saying, pick up basketball. That's

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<v Speaker 2>why when people talk trash to me in basketball, because

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<v Speaker 2>I was never particularly good, but now I'm really not good.

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<v Speaker 2>I just say, hey, dude, this is this is the

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<v Speaker 2>best day of your career, the worst of mine. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>just get through this thing. Anyway. Jordan Speed shot at

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<v Speaker 2>seventy nine yesterday.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, they completed today. It was not good today. He

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<v Speaker 3>took a nine on fifteen and it was Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 3>was not pretty. You sometimes wonder if sp He's going

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<v Speaker 3>to have that magic and it disappeared this morning. It

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<v Speaker 3>was not there.

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<v Speaker 2>What happened to Jordan Speed.

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<v Speaker 3>Chipped back into the water, so then he had to

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<v Speaker 3>take a drop on.

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<v Speaker 1>The other side.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mean what happened on the nine. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>what happened, and then.

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<v Speaker 3>What flubbed his chip? Then he missed his putt, and

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<v Speaker 3>then he tapped in for a nine.

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<v Speaker 2>That feels like me, I love when I get on

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<v Speaker 2>the green like part five and two, Like yeah I can,

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<v Speaker 2>I can get it in four from here, no question?

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<v Speaker 2>But no, what legit? Like what happened? Like he was

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<v Speaker 2>the next one, He was the next one six feet

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<v Speaker 2>in He never missed a putt. That dude was an unbelievas.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a.

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<v Speaker 3>Machine ball striker. Yeah what happened. He was never the longest,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, so it was never the most athletic, but

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<v Speaker 3>he would get hot, yes, and he would get a

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<v Speaker 3>hot uh. And he knows how to play in those

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<v Speaker 3>clutch situations. Yeah, just it happens.

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<v Speaker 2>It such a hard such a heart, such a we're

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<v Speaker 2>doing are we gonna do that? SCLF? Like that's baseball,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the SCLF. Golf, It just happens. I just golf

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<v Speaker 2>is the I'm trying to think, which is the most

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<v Speaker 2>miserable sport when you're not playing well? Like when in

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<v Speaker 2>basketball with must they just take you out?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, or you can get an assister or a rebound. Golf,

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<v Speaker 3>there's no hiding. There's no hiding.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no hiding like tennis. Like in tennis, when you

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<v Speaker 2>just don't have it or you're overwhelmed, like it's over quick.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's just over quick. That thing like there's

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<v Speaker 2>nowhere you can go. I mean, you could retire, but

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<v Speaker 2>you don't retire.

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<v Speaker 3>The other thing is your opponent may stink in tennis,

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<v Speaker 3>so that may give you a little breather. With golf,

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<v Speaker 3>there's nothing you can do.

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<v Speaker 2>No and just unrelenting courses, unrelenting. Did you see Travis

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<v Speaker 2>Kelcey graduated from the University of Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I didn't see that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So he got his degree for the University of Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 2>He walked and upon receiving said diploma, he broke out

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<v Speaker 2>a beer and pounded the beer. Now I'm gonna preface

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<v Speaker 2>this by saying, along my path, I have met and

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<v Speaker 2>spent time with Travis Kelcey. Now this was years ago

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<v Speaker 2>when he had the reality show where he dated like

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<v Speaker 2>thirty two women in the summer. And I find Travis

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<v Speaker 2>to be awesome, hilarious, fun. You know, obviously his brother

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<v Speaker 2>Jason is like the every guy, and you know, Travis's

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit was a little bit more of the

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<v Speaker 2>playboy a little bit, but like, nothing is more on

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<v Speaker 2>brand than the need for attention. Nothing says I need

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<v Speaker 2>attention more than these two time you know, the back

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<v Speaker 2>to back super Bowl champion tight end who's dating the

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<v Speaker 2>most famous woman on earth doing the Look at me,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pounding a beer when I haven't. It's like one

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<v Speaker 2>thing if you're just turned twenty one, you're twenty two

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<v Speaker 2>and you're the football dude, but like pro you're in

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<v Speaker 2>your thirties, you're kind of a grown up. Now you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to pound a beer after getting your diploma.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, because most college graduations are Doug Gottlieb, dan Byer,

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<v Speaker 3>Chasing Stewart, Joel Elliott, Dan Patrick, Seaton, O'Connor, Paul Papps,

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<v Speaker 3>Fritz really good what you're doing? Yes, like that's what

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<v Speaker 3>they are, fast, like it's it's he had the moment

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<v Speaker 3>his parents were on stage. Now that I'm seeing the video, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it had to be a sponsored deal, right, Like whoever

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<v Speaker 3>that beer or drink was it's a ball narrow.

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<v Speaker 2>Fan, Yes, yes, brought to you by Pfizer. He was

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<v Speaker 2>the Pfizer add he did. Yes, that would be that

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<v Speaker 2>would be the most Travis Kelcey thing ever, is if

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<v Speaker 2>it was all sponsored by Also it's one of those

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<v Speaker 2>deals where I'm sure everybody knows who he is, but

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<v Speaker 2>there's plenty of people like, who is that guy? Why

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<v Speaker 2>is he pound? Get off the stage, man, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to see my nephew. Mark Dominic joins us. He spent

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<v Speaker 2>over twenty years in NFL front offices. Of course, he's

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<v Speaker 2>the general manager of the Tampay Buccaneers, and he joins

0:23:13.520 --> 0:23:15.520
<v Speaker 2>us here and Dan Patrick show Fox Sports trader Dan

0:23:15.520 --> 0:23:19.359
<v Speaker 2>Buyer alongside him, Doug Gottliebin, we're getting closer and closer

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<v Speaker 2>to the draft. What are the smokes signals? What do

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<v Speaker 2>you think the commanders do? Because that really feels like

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<v Speaker 2>where the draft can pivot and change based upon who.

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<v Speaker 3>They take it to. Mark.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, they're doing their due diligence obviously on Drake May

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<v Speaker 6>and Jade Daniels and trying to figure out which one

0:23:37.960 --> 0:23:41.119
<v Speaker 6>they're going to go with. I don't believe it's j. J. McCarthy.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think that that's where they've got him quote pegged,

0:23:43.520 --> 0:23:45.920
<v Speaker 6>and I think it comes down to, you know, obviously

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<v Speaker 6>the offensive coordinator, what he's dealt with before in terms

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<v Speaker 6>of you know, Alex van Pelt and to me in

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<v Speaker 6>terms of Green Bay, it's kind of unique where I

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<v Speaker 6>think that seems more excuse me, New England, that seems

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<v Speaker 6>more of the May. I think Washington feels a little

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<v Speaker 6>more Jayden Daniels based off of what they do offensively,

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<v Speaker 6>what they're going to want to do.

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<v Speaker 3>Excuse me, Mark, Do you think Washington ever had a

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<v Speaker 3>legit shot to move up one spot for Caleb Williams.

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<v Speaker 6>No, I don't think so. And I don't think that

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<v Speaker 6>the Bears are looking for that they needed, They needed

0:24:17.359 --> 0:24:20.760
<v Speaker 6>the uh, this player. It's so much more important than

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<v Speaker 6>picks and uh, you know, if you're gonna bet on it,

0:24:23.520 --> 0:24:25.479
<v Speaker 6>they're obviously going all in on Caleb Williams, and you've

0:24:25.480 --> 0:24:27.000
<v Speaker 6>got to take a shot when you've got that spot.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So if Jayden Daniels goes to Washington, Okay, who's

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<v Speaker 2>the next quarterback to go?

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<v Speaker 6>Say they again?

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<v Speaker 2>Dog, If Daniels goes to Washington, who's the next quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>to go?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I think I think Drake May goes. I mean,

0:24:45.359 --> 0:24:48.359
<v Speaker 6>I think it's gonna be uh, Drake May is certainly

0:24:48.359 --> 0:24:51.000
<v Speaker 6>the next quarterback. Then I think it's JJ or you know,

0:24:51.040 --> 0:24:53.119
<v Speaker 6>it starts to get into Michael Pennock's kind of world.

0:24:53.200 --> 0:24:55.280
<v Speaker 6>So I think that those two might pull fall down

0:24:55.320 --> 0:24:57.520
<v Speaker 6>a little bit further, like JJ may fall a little

0:24:57.560 --> 0:25:00.240
<v Speaker 6>bit further down the ladder, but they're both obviously, I think,

0:25:00.320 --> 0:25:02.960
<v Speaker 6>going to go in the top fifteen. So I think

0:25:03.400 --> 0:25:06.199
<v Speaker 6>JJ has the chance still to be maybe that you know,

0:25:06.560 --> 0:25:08.320
<v Speaker 6>eighth or ninth pick if one of those teams, like

0:25:08.320 --> 0:25:10.280
<v Speaker 6>the Minnesota wants to pop up and go get him.

0:25:10.520 --> 0:25:12.119
<v Speaker 6>But I think it's the three quarterbacks and then I

0:25:12.160 --> 0:25:13.639
<v Speaker 6>think you see the receiver start to pull off the

0:25:13.640 --> 0:25:15.520
<v Speaker 6>board in offensive tackles. I think that you're going to

0:25:15.560 --> 0:25:18.879
<v Speaker 6>see possibly seven or eight straight offensive players before we

0:25:18.920 --> 0:25:21.479
<v Speaker 6>see Dallas Turner come off the board towards the end

0:25:21.520 --> 0:25:22.800
<v Speaker 6>of that first top ten picks.

0:25:23.119 --> 0:25:26.000
<v Speaker 3>So Minnesota obviously made the deal so they could get

0:25:26.080 --> 0:25:29.119
<v Speaker 3>to first rounders. Do you do that deal with a

0:25:29.160 --> 0:25:31.600
<v Speaker 3>person in mind, or do you do it to just

0:25:31.720 --> 0:25:35.280
<v Speaker 3>have the ability to move up. Is there a scenario

0:25:35.359 --> 0:25:37.960
<v Speaker 3>where they end up staying or now are they pot

0:25:38.000 --> 0:25:40.159
<v Speaker 3>committed and have to move up because they acquired that

0:25:40.200 --> 0:25:41.200
<v Speaker 3>second first.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I think they did it because when I

0:25:43.600 --> 0:25:46.360
<v Speaker 6>look at the value of that trade. The trade from

0:25:46.359 --> 0:25:49.879
<v Speaker 6>a analytics standpoint or from a value standpoint, says you

0:25:49.880 --> 0:25:52.760
<v Speaker 6>make that trade every time, especially not being on the clock,

0:25:52.800 --> 0:25:54.360
<v Speaker 6>because you don't know what player is going to be there,

0:25:54.400 --> 0:25:57.359
<v Speaker 6>So the trade can become more valuable based off I

0:25:57.440 --> 0:26:00.399
<v Speaker 6>think to me, the more quarterbacks that come off the board, uh,

0:26:00.560 --> 0:26:03.200
<v Speaker 6>you know, brings a positional player that's going to drop

0:26:03.320 --> 0:26:04.920
<v Speaker 6>to that pick, and so I think it becomes a

0:26:05.000 --> 0:26:07.640
<v Speaker 6>much more valuable pick. I think that doesn't mean they

0:26:07.680 --> 0:26:09.520
<v Speaker 6>have to go move up. They don't have a lot

0:26:09.520 --> 0:26:11.560
<v Speaker 6>of ammunition behind that pick, so it's kind of like,

0:26:11.680 --> 0:26:12.919
<v Speaker 6>you know, are you going all in?

0:26:13.480 --> 0:26:13.640
<v Speaker 2>Uh?

0:26:13.680 --> 0:26:15.160
<v Speaker 6>So we'll see what they do. But I think they

0:26:15.240 --> 0:26:17.119
<v Speaker 6>just made the trade because the value was too good,

0:26:17.200 --> 0:26:18.760
<v Speaker 6>not because hey, we've got to use this to go

0:26:18.840 --> 0:26:19.600
<v Speaker 6>get a quarterback.

0:26:20.280 --> 0:26:24.840
<v Speaker 2>Hm. What what is it like in that draft room

0:26:25.040 --> 0:26:28.520
<v Speaker 2>when when you're you know, when you're trying to figure

0:26:28.560 --> 0:26:33.400
<v Speaker 2>out what you want and who's going like how how

0:26:33.480 --> 0:26:36.879
<v Speaker 2>close can you peg it? When you're sitting in the

0:26:36.920 --> 0:26:39.320
<v Speaker 2>five spot or the seventh spot in terms of what

0:26:39.400 --> 0:26:40.359
<v Speaker 2>happens before.

0:26:40.119 --> 0:26:43.359
<v Speaker 6>You, you're pretty close. H you should have a pretty

0:26:43.400 --> 0:26:45.440
<v Speaker 6>good understanding. I know that when I was picking five,

0:26:46.680 --> 0:26:48.399
<v Speaker 6>I felt like I could move back to seven and

0:26:48.440 --> 0:26:50.280
<v Speaker 6>still get one of my top two guys and they

0:26:50.280 --> 0:26:51.879
<v Speaker 6>were both on the board when I was at seven,

0:26:52.000 --> 0:26:54.240
<v Speaker 6>So uh, I think that that's one of those things

0:26:54.240 --> 0:26:55.880
<v Speaker 6>where you've got to do a lot of work right now,

0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:59.679
<v Speaker 6>and there's there's fun questions you can ask people, and

0:26:59.760 --> 0:27:02.800
<v Speaker 6>I think could be an interesting opportunity for you, Doug

0:27:02.800 --> 0:27:06.000
<v Speaker 6>at some point with your interviewing of gms. But here's

0:27:06.040 --> 0:27:08.359
<v Speaker 6>the question that's a trick question and you can get

0:27:08.400 --> 0:27:09.919
<v Speaker 6>a lot of information out and that we'll share it

0:27:09.920 --> 0:27:12.439
<v Speaker 6>with you because we do this all the time. But

0:27:13.480 --> 0:27:18.280
<v Speaker 6>the question you ask a general manager is do you think, uh,

0:27:19.000 --> 0:27:22.600
<v Speaker 6>who's a good Uh Do you think Joe Alt will

0:27:22.640 --> 0:27:23.600
<v Speaker 6>get to you at seven?

0:27:24.040 --> 0:27:24.200
<v Speaker 4>Right?

0:27:24.240 --> 0:27:26.960
<v Speaker 6>So now you ask maybe the Arizona Cardinals, or you

0:27:27.000 --> 0:27:29.199
<v Speaker 6>ask you know, a team that's in between. And if

0:27:29.240 --> 0:27:31.639
<v Speaker 6>they say yeah, I think he'll be there, they're not

0:27:31.760 --> 0:27:34.640
<v Speaker 6>thinking about subconsciously, they're innswer the question we won't take him.

0:27:35.080 --> 0:27:36.680
<v Speaker 6>And if they say, hey, I don't think he's gonna

0:27:36.680 --> 0:27:38.119
<v Speaker 6>make it there, that means they have him high up

0:27:38.160 --> 0:27:40.120
<v Speaker 6>on the board where they're going to consider him right.

0:27:40.160 --> 0:27:42.320
<v Speaker 6>So it's a very interesting question you can ask somebody

0:27:42.520 --> 0:27:45.080
<v Speaker 6>if you're in the in the draft situation, and you

0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:46.399
<v Speaker 6>got to use it pointedly. You got to use it

0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:47.840
<v Speaker 6>carefully because you don't want to over and date it.

0:27:47.840 --> 0:27:50.679
<v Speaker 6>But you've got to pick an individual player that you say, hey,

0:27:50.720 --> 0:27:51.840
<v Speaker 6>do you think he'll make it to you? And that's

0:27:51.840 --> 0:27:53.240
<v Speaker 6>what I used to do with GMS. I used to

0:27:53.280 --> 0:27:55.040
<v Speaker 6>talk to teams and go, you know, I don't want

0:27:55.040 --> 0:27:57.280
<v Speaker 6>to tell boards. I'm just kind of curious, like, you know,

0:27:57.359 --> 0:27:58.879
<v Speaker 6>picking some butt guys that I thought were going to

0:27:58.920 --> 0:28:01.160
<v Speaker 6>go in front of me. Maybe when backtick in eighteen

0:28:01.240 --> 0:28:03.440
<v Speaker 6>or nineteen. You know, I talked to maybe a team

0:28:03.480 --> 0:28:05.000
<v Speaker 6>that was at twelve or thirteen, say, hey, do you

0:28:05.000 --> 0:28:07.520
<v Speaker 6>think that there's any way that Ryan Kerrigan makes it

0:28:07.520 --> 0:28:09.960
<v Speaker 6>to you at eighteen? And they're like, nah, he's certainly,

0:28:10.119 --> 0:28:11.639
<v Speaker 6>and I don't think he's gonna be there, you know,

0:28:11.680 --> 0:28:14.080
<v Speaker 6>and then suddenly it's like, okay, so they have him

0:28:14.160 --> 0:28:16.159
<v Speaker 6>high up on the board consider and that's kind of

0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:16.879
<v Speaker 6>inside information.

0:28:16.920 --> 0:28:19.320
<v Speaker 2>Can cold like I like that. Now you can even

0:28:19.440 --> 0:28:21.879
<v Speaker 2>tweak it even more and do the true like like

0:28:22.000 --> 0:28:25.560
<v Speaker 2>never ask a guest no, and go, what's the likelihood

0:28:26.400 --> 0:28:27.280
<v Speaker 2>that he gets to you?

0:28:28.400 --> 0:28:28.600
<v Speaker 1>Right?

0:28:28.760 --> 0:28:32.000
<v Speaker 6>Absolutely? And again it's a it's a tell that they're

0:28:32.040 --> 0:28:34.000
<v Speaker 6>going to use within the organization. You could do it

0:28:34.000 --> 0:28:35.280
<v Speaker 6>as the head coach. You could certainly do it to

0:28:35.320 --> 0:28:36.960
<v Speaker 6>the general manager, because those two are gonna have the

0:28:36.960 --> 0:28:39.240
<v Speaker 6>best sense of like who they really want to take

0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:42.000
<v Speaker 6>as compared to maybe what the overall feeling might be

0:28:42.040 --> 0:28:42.480
<v Speaker 6>in a building.

0:28:43.000 --> 0:28:45.120
<v Speaker 3>Last week, going we talked to dominic Key told us

0:28:45.160 --> 0:28:50.800
<v Speaker 3>how he would find these mock drafters and totally give them,

0:28:50.840 --> 0:28:53.520
<v Speaker 3>Like how did you find that information when they were

0:28:53.560 --> 0:28:56.080
<v Speaker 3>completely off the set, Like they weren't even they weren't

0:28:56.080 --> 0:28:59.000
<v Speaker 3>even in the same county. So there's a you see

0:28:59.000 --> 0:29:02.640
<v Speaker 3>the little backway deal of general managers here, all right?

0:29:02.640 --> 0:29:05.000
<v Speaker 3>I aggress you mentioned number five. Number five right now

0:29:05.120 --> 0:29:08.600
<v Speaker 3>is the Chargers. It is Doug's team. Is there such

0:29:08.640 --> 0:29:12.080
<v Speaker 3>a thing as first pick of your tenuere? Like, is

0:29:12.120 --> 0:29:15.240
<v Speaker 3>this are we making Jim Harbaugh's first pick as the

0:29:15.320 --> 0:29:17.680
<v Speaker 3>Chargers head coach? Are we making a bigger deal out

0:29:17.680 --> 0:29:21.280
<v Speaker 3>of it than maybe it actually is? Or is this

0:29:21.360 --> 0:29:23.960
<v Speaker 3>actually a big deal because it's pick number one of

0:29:24.280 --> 0:29:25.400
<v Speaker 3>his tenure with the Chargers.

0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:27.400
<v Speaker 6>No, I think it's a big deal. But I think

0:29:27.400 --> 0:29:29.600
<v Speaker 6>it's a big deal because I don't expect the Chargers

0:29:29.600 --> 0:29:31.560
<v Speaker 6>to be up there again for a long time. You know,

0:29:31.640 --> 0:29:33.040
<v Speaker 6>I think that they're going to be able to put

0:29:33.040 --> 0:29:35.760
<v Speaker 6>together an offense here that is going to be very exciting,

0:29:35.920 --> 0:29:37.560
<v Speaker 6>and I think they're going to have the pick of

0:29:37.600 --> 0:29:39.600
<v Speaker 6>the litter for the most part in terms of so

0:29:39.680 --> 0:29:42.320
<v Speaker 6>I want an offensive tackle, do I want the tight

0:29:42.400 --> 0:29:44.440
<v Speaker 6>end or do I want the wide receiver? And I

0:29:44.480 --> 0:29:46.280
<v Speaker 6>think that they're is coming down to all three, and

0:29:46.320 --> 0:29:48.880
<v Speaker 6>I think that the offensive line is like we said

0:29:48.960 --> 0:29:51.160
<v Speaker 6>last week, I still think that's a sneaky in play

0:29:51.240 --> 0:29:54.880
<v Speaker 6>move that the Chargers could do to kind of solidify,

0:29:55.080 --> 0:29:57.640
<v Speaker 6>you know, justin Herbert in terms of protecting their most

0:29:57.640 --> 0:30:00.640
<v Speaker 6>important asset. It's not the sexiest pick. It's more sexy

0:30:00.680 --> 0:30:03.600
<v Speaker 6>to take brock Powers or you know, whichever receiver happens

0:30:03.640 --> 0:30:06.040
<v Speaker 6>to be there at five. But I can understand that

0:30:06.080 --> 0:30:07.520
<v Speaker 6>all three of those are in play. But I think

0:30:07.520 --> 0:30:10.120
<v Speaker 6>they're just so critical that they've got to get it right,

0:30:10.160 --> 0:30:12.160
<v Speaker 6>because again, I don't think the charge is going to

0:30:12.200 --> 0:30:14.160
<v Speaker 6>be in this kind of situation again next year the

0:30:14.160 --> 0:30:15.800
<v Speaker 6>following because I think Carbo is going to make this

0:30:15.880 --> 0:30:17.240
<v Speaker 6>team a playoff team.

0:30:17.400 --> 0:30:19.880
<v Speaker 2>Wow. From your lips to God's ears, the Chargers will

0:30:19.920 --> 0:30:23.400
<v Speaker 2>actually achieve the level of their talent. But but let me okay, so,

0:30:23.960 --> 0:30:25.920
<v Speaker 2>but if we look at what the Chargers have done,

0:30:26.400 --> 0:30:30.440
<v Speaker 2>it does feel like they're crafting this offense under the

0:30:30.480 --> 0:30:34.160
<v Speaker 2>guidance of Greg Roman. Right Like, you bring in, you know,

0:30:34.280 --> 0:30:36.840
<v Speaker 2>a tight end he drafted, he was there for a draft.

0:30:37.160 --> 0:30:39.560
<v Speaker 2>You know, you bring in a running back, You're you're

0:30:40.000 --> 0:30:43.680
<v Speaker 2>making this into a Greg Roman offense. Doesn't that stream? Hey,

0:30:43.680 --> 0:30:46.720
<v Speaker 2>go get Brock Powers where you have another pass catching

0:30:46.760 --> 0:30:47.200
<v Speaker 2>tight end.

0:30:48.200 --> 0:30:50.120
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I think it does. I actually think it does.

0:30:50.200 --> 0:30:51.760
<v Speaker 6>And I think a lot of people who are mocking

0:30:51.840 --> 0:30:54.200
<v Speaker 6>Brock Powers at fifteen or sixteen are way off one

0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:56.280
<v Speaker 6>where the NFL club see Brock Powers as a player

0:30:56.320 --> 0:30:57.080
<v Speaker 6>and then it was possible.

0:30:57.120 --> 0:31:00.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh he's amazing. He's amazing, am he's the best playing

0:31:00.840 --> 0:31:01.240
<v Speaker 2>in SEC.

0:31:02.440 --> 0:31:05.200
<v Speaker 6>I don't dis I mean, he's a great, great football

0:31:05.240 --> 0:31:08.600
<v Speaker 6>player at a pivotal position. And it's a quarterback's best friend.

0:31:09.200 --> 0:31:11.640
<v Speaker 6>And in the end, you know, kind of what you

0:31:11.640 --> 0:31:13.760
<v Speaker 6>think about what Greg Roman's done, and especially when he

0:31:13.800 --> 0:31:15.080
<v Speaker 6>was in Baltimore, what.

0:31:15.000 --> 0:31:15.440
<v Speaker 1>Did they do?

0:31:15.480 --> 0:31:18.320
<v Speaker 6>They drafted guy the draft guys maybe late wide receivers

0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:20.760
<v Speaker 6>in the first round, but second and third round where

0:31:20.760 --> 0:31:23.040
<v Speaker 6>they take the vertical guys. So the worthy, the guys

0:31:23.040 --> 0:31:25.560
<v Speaker 6>that can run vertical. That's where the Baltimore Ravens have

0:31:25.640 --> 0:31:27.920
<v Speaker 6>always done that. They push your defense down the field

0:31:28.200 --> 0:31:30.280
<v Speaker 6>to open up stuff underneath from Mark Andrews or the

0:31:30.360 --> 0:31:32.160
<v Speaker 6>run game. And so I think that they're going to do.

0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:34.640
<v Speaker 6>I think they'll do tight end or offensive line if

0:31:34.640 --> 0:31:38.080
<v Speaker 6>it's a shock, but I think the wide receivers later

0:31:38.080 --> 0:31:39.400
<v Speaker 6>in the draft because I think they're going to get

0:31:39.440 --> 0:31:42.080
<v Speaker 6>vertical guys like they've always done before when Roman was

0:31:42.080 --> 0:31:43.320
<v Speaker 6>the offense coordinator in Baltimore.

0:31:43.440 --> 0:31:46.720
<v Speaker 2>There we go. Hey man, this INSIGHT's amazing. Love have

0:31:46.840 --> 0:31:48.520
<v Speaker 2>you on my show. Love you having on this show.

0:31:48.640 --> 0:31:49.680
<v Speaker 2>Hope you have a great weekend.

0:31:49.720 --> 0:31:51.800
<v Speaker 6>Thanks so much for joining us, guys, thanks for having

0:31:51.800 --> 0:31:52.520
<v Speaker 6>me on. I can't believe it.

0:31:52.560 --> 0:31:56.000
<v Speaker 2>Two weeks to two weeks. Mark Dominic joins us here

0:31:56.040 --> 0:31:58.520
<v Speaker 2>in the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio. What

0:31:58.600 --> 0:32:01.280
<v Speaker 2>is incredible, by the way, I just great, dude, incredible,

0:32:01.360 --> 0:32:04.160
<v Speaker 2>valuable asset, Like giving you the whole Like, here's how

0:32:04.200 --> 0:32:10.760
<v Speaker 2>you get your information. Uh, I'm Doug Gottlieb. He's Dan

0:32:10.800 --> 0:32:12.560
<v Speaker 2>Byron in for Dan and the Danettes here and the

0:32:12.600 --> 0:32:16.280
<v Speaker 2>Dan Patrick's show. What would it be like to see

0:32:16.320 --> 0:32:20.920
<v Speaker 2>your son get called up to the bigs when you're

0:32:20.920 --> 0:32:24.320
<v Speaker 2>a former big leaguer. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know?

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<v Speaker 2>Our next guest knows he'll join us. I'm the Dan

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<v Speaker 2>Patrick Show.

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<v Speaker 1>Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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0:32:43.160 --> 0:32:46.800
<v Speaker 2>Doug Gottlieb, Dan Byron for Dan Patrick, Dan The Danetes You,

0:32:46.800 --> 0:32:54.920
<v Speaker 2>and The Dan Patrick Show Foxsports Radio. So look, I

0:32:55.240 --> 0:33:00.000
<v Speaker 2>think everybody thinks of these moments in an athlete's career

0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:06.440
<v Speaker 2>year that are unique and special, like what you'd what

0:33:06.520 --> 0:33:09.680
<v Speaker 2>you have in base baseball is because of the true

0:33:09.680 --> 0:33:15.240
<v Speaker 2>minor league system, maybe because of how we've the movies

0:33:15.280 --> 0:33:18.360
<v Speaker 2>like Bull Durham, Like the idea of getting a call

0:33:18.440 --> 0:33:21.000
<v Speaker 2>up from the to the show from the minor leagues

0:33:21.080 --> 0:33:22.960
<v Speaker 2>is something that sounds really really cool.

0:33:23.760 --> 0:33:24.360
<v Speaker 3>Then when you.

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<v Speaker 2>Factor in, well, it's a former number one overall pick

0:33:27.400 --> 0:33:29.000
<v Speaker 2>who it was only a year and a half ago,

0:33:29.080 --> 0:33:31.400
<v Speaker 2>is number one pick and oh yeah, by the way,

0:33:31.560 --> 0:33:33.959
<v Speaker 2>he's the son of a dear friend of mine who

0:33:34.080 --> 0:33:36.280
<v Speaker 2>is an All star in his own right, and it

0:33:36.320 --> 0:33:39.760
<v Speaker 2>happens even cooler. So we've kind of on my show,

0:33:39.800 --> 0:33:42.520
<v Speaker 2>The Doug Gottlieb Show, which airs every day at three

0:33:42.560 --> 0:33:45.160
<v Speaker 2>eastern New Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, we've kind of

0:33:45.160 --> 0:33:48.760
<v Speaker 2>all adopted Jackson Holiday is like our guy to watch

0:33:48.760 --> 0:33:51.200
<v Speaker 2>this year in baseball, to pay attention to baseball. But

0:33:51.440 --> 0:33:55.560
<v Speaker 2>the guy who he actually it's actually his son doesn't

0:33:55.560 --> 0:33:57.880
<v Speaker 2>have to adopt him is Matt Holliday, and he joins

0:33:57.920 --> 0:34:01.880
<v Speaker 2>us now on the Dan Patrick Show. Matt, how you what, Doug?

0:34:01.960 --> 0:34:02.400
<v Speaker 7>Ho are we doing?

0:34:02.480 --> 0:34:02.880
<v Speaker 3>Good man?

0:34:03.040 --> 0:34:06.560
<v Speaker 2>What what is that like to watch your son play

0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:07.520
<v Speaker 2>in the bigs?

0:34:08.719 --> 0:34:11.520
<v Speaker 7>Well, it's really exciting. Uh it was, you know, I

0:34:11.960 --> 0:34:14.879
<v Speaker 7>expected it at some point this year, obviously didn't didn't

0:34:14.920 --> 0:34:17.960
<v Speaker 7>know when, and and so, uh when he called me

0:34:18.640 --> 0:34:21.399
<v Speaker 7>a couple of nights ago and and said that he

0:34:21.440 --> 0:34:25.440
<v Speaker 7>was he was headed to Boston, uh pretty cool, pretty

0:34:25.480 --> 0:34:28.120
<v Speaker 7>cool feeling, and pretty exciting for our family. So we

0:34:28.560 --> 0:34:31.480
<v Speaker 7>immediately pivoted and tried to figure out how we were

0:34:31.480 --> 0:34:33.239
<v Speaker 7>going to get to Boston the next day and and

0:34:33.320 --> 0:34:36.120
<v Speaker 7>get to the game and uh try to get everybody

0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:39.400
<v Speaker 7>that wanted to be there, uh to the game. And uh,

0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:42.399
<v Speaker 7>so it was it was pretty exciting obviously. Fenway Park

0:34:42.480 --> 0:34:46.360
<v Speaker 7>is a is a historic venue for baseball and and

0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:47.719
<v Speaker 7>a lot of things up. You know, I had a

0:34:47.800 --> 0:34:49.279
<v Speaker 7>chance to play in a couple of World Series. Is

0:34:49.280 --> 0:34:53.000
<v Speaker 7>there and really cool place, uh to make your debut

0:34:53.120 --> 0:34:55.480
<v Speaker 7>and and to uh get a chance to go and

0:34:55.520 --> 0:34:57.719
<v Speaker 7>watch him fulfill his dream of playing in the Major

0:34:57.800 --> 0:35:00.200
<v Speaker 7>League and uh do it on a really good team

0:35:00.239 --> 0:35:03.080
<v Speaker 7>and in a really cool environment. It's a lot of fun.

0:35:03.239 --> 0:35:06.200
<v Speaker 7>So we we had a great time and now we

0:35:06.400 --> 0:35:10.200
<v Speaker 7>just landed in Baltimore's catch a catch their his first

0:35:10.239 --> 0:35:13.919
<v Speaker 7>game as an Oriole in Baltimore tonight. Uh, so that's

0:35:13.920 --> 0:35:16.840
<v Speaker 7>exciting too. So it's a it's a fun time and

0:35:16.920 --> 0:35:19.320
<v Speaker 7>really enjoy watching him pursue.

0:35:19.719 --> 0:35:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

0:35:20.040 --> 0:35:22.120
<v Speaker 7>You know his passion and what he loves to do,

0:35:22.200 --> 0:35:23.120
<v Speaker 7>and that's by baseball.

0:35:23.480 --> 0:35:26.280
<v Speaker 3>I know Oriole fans probably wish he was called up sooner,

0:35:26.320 --> 0:35:28.960
<v Speaker 3>but you talk about us kind of it's it's going

0:35:29.040 --> 0:35:31.799
<v Speaker 3>to happen. The day he was drafted, what did you

0:35:31.840 --> 0:35:34.000
<v Speaker 3>think that the plan was? I know, not thing's a given,

0:35:34.400 --> 0:35:36.680
<v Speaker 3>but in your mind, what are you thinking of, Like,

0:35:36.760 --> 0:35:38.279
<v Speaker 3>all right, this is when we're going to see him

0:35:38.280 --> 0:35:39.120
<v Speaker 3>in the bigs.

0:35:39.840 --> 0:35:42.960
<v Speaker 7>Well, you know that that I understand how challenging in

0:35:43.000 --> 0:35:45.640
<v Speaker 7>baseball is and how you know, the minor leagues, particularly

0:35:46.160 --> 0:35:47.880
<v Speaker 7>for a kid coming out of high school, you know,

0:35:47.960 --> 0:35:51.560
<v Speaker 7>can be can be a challenge, and so uh my expectations.

0:35:51.600 --> 0:35:53.759
<v Speaker 7>I think at the press conference he said his goal

0:35:53.840 --> 0:35:55.960
<v Speaker 7>was to be there within two years, and I would

0:35:56.200 --> 0:35:59.120
<v Speaker 7>to myself with thinking, Chief actually like that, that's pretty quick,

0:35:59.160 --> 0:36:00.640
<v Speaker 7>Like you're you know, this is a hard deal. It

0:36:00.680 --> 0:36:04.279
<v Speaker 7>was a hard game. And so I don't think that,

0:36:04.600 --> 0:36:07.319
<v Speaker 7>you know, particularly with him, when he puts his mind

0:36:07.360 --> 0:36:10.839
<v Speaker 7>to something, he's he's pretty relentless and and pretty uh

0:36:11.160 --> 0:36:14.160
<v Speaker 7>you knows he's done, done what he said he's he's

0:36:14.200 --> 0:36:16.439
<v Speaker 7>going to do, and and so uh, to make it

0:36:16.800 --> 0:36:19.960
<v Speaker 7>this fast has been pretty remarkable. Uh to be you know,

0:36:20.000 --> 0:36:22.840
<v Speaker 7>twenty years old and in the major league, Uh, after

0:36:22.880 --> 0:36:25.560
<v Speaker 7>being drafted less than two years ago. And you know,

0:36:25.560 --> 0:36:27.360
<v Speaker 7>I'm I'm really proud of him. He puts in the

0:36:27.440 --> 0:36:31.040
<v Speaker 7>work and and he's mentally very tough and very focused,

0:36:31.080 --> 0:36:35.120
<v Speaker 7>and uh he does everything right as far as eating

0:36:35.160 --> 0:36:38.520
<v Speaker 7>and sleeping and watches you know how much make sure

0:36:38.600 --> 0:36:41.120
<v Speaker 7>he's he's doing everything he can have success on the field.

0:36:41.200 --> 0:36:44.279
<v Speaker 7>So I didn't really know to answer your question how

0:36:44.320 --> 0:36:45.960
<v Speaker 7>long it would take. I would he gets probably a

0:36:45.960 --> 0:36:49.399
<v Speaker 7>little bit longer than it's taken. But and knowing how

0:36:49.440 --> 0:36:52.680
<v Speaker 7>focused and determined the kid he is, I'm not really surprised.

0:36:53.320 --> 0:36:54.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you ever shared this story, but

0:36:54.920 --> 0:36:57.759
<v Speaker 2>it's when I remember Matt Holidays. Our guest, of course,

0:36:57.800 --> 0:37:00.640
<v Speaker 2>is Jackson, the number one overall of the Orioles a

0:37:00.719 --> 0:37:02.160
<v Speaker 2>year and a half ago, just got called up to

0:37:02.200 --> 0:37:06.080
<v Speaker 2>the BIGS as the Orioles were playing in Boston. Now

0:37:06.400 --> 0:37:08.839
<v Speaker 2>now returning home. Of course, Matt's a seven time All

0:37:08.880 --> 0:37:11.479
<v Speaker 2>Star in his own rights, won a couple of World

0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:16.680
<v Speaker 2>Series as well. Okay, so when he was younger and

0:37:16.719 --> 0:37:19.840
<v Speaker 2>I people ask all the time, like, no, what how

0:37:20.160 --> 0:37:22.040
<v Speaker 2>what is that like for Jackson? What's he really like?

0:37:22.080 --> 0:37:27.000
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, dude, the most humble, thoughtful kid,

0:37:27.280 --> 0:37:29.520
<v Speaker 2>And I remember this story and tell me if I'm wrong.

0:37:30.160 --> 0:37:33.920
<v Speaker 2>You guys used to when he was little and Leslie

0:37:33.920 --> 0:37:36.799
<v Speaker 2>would go to Target, she would do a deal where

0:37:36.880 --> 0:37:41.440
<v Speaker 2>she'd run the credit card when they'd pay, and Jackson,

0:37:41.480 --> 0:37:44.440
<v Speaker 2>they'd like, Jackson would sit there saying a little prayer

0:37:44.800 --> 0:37:46.520
<v Speaker 2>that they'd have it, you'd have enough money for it

0:37:46.560 --> 0:37:50.600
<v Speaker 2>to go through, right, am I remembering the story ride.

0:37:51.320 --> 0:37:56.040
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, he yeah, he and Ethan were always concerned that,

0:37:56.800 --> 0:37:59.880
<v Speaker 7>you know, the target trips when the basket would get

0:37:59.880 --> 0:38:02.840
<v Speaker 7>to full, that if if we'd have enough money to

0:38:03.080 --> 0:38:06.120
<v Speaker 7>uh to get the to get all the things that

0:38:06.160 --> 0:38:09.359
<v Speaker 7>were in the basket. So I don't I don't know

0:38:09.640 --> 0:38:12.000
<v Speaker 7>if we how much many things were in those baskets,

0:38:12.000 --> 0:38:17.560
<v Speaker 7>but yeah, they were. They were concerned that that the

0:38:17.600 --> 0:38:19.680
<v Speaker 7>credit card wouldn't be able to cover it, and so

0:38:19.800 --> 0:38:22.000
<v Speaker 7>Letslie just played along and she'd be like, I don't know,

0:38:22.160 --> 0:38:24.239
<v Speaker 7>we'll see I mean, if not, we'll have to start

0:38:24.239 --> 0:38:25.120
<v Speaker 7>taking back.

0:38:25.200 --> 0:38:28.240
<v Speaker 2>I I only I only bring it up because like, seriously,

0:38:28.280 --> 0:38:29.759
<v Speaker 2>how do you guys? How do you guys do it?

0:38:29.760 --> 0:38:31.560
<v Speaker 2>Like Ethan's going to be a star as well still

0:38:31.560 --> 0:38:33.560
<v Speaker 2>Otur high school. He's in some of he's number one

0:38:33.600 --> 0:38:37.000
<v Speaker 2>rate of prospect in his class. But how do you

0:38:37.040 --> 0:38:39.760
<v Speaker 2>do how do you as a major leaguer and all

0:38:39.840 --> 0:38:43.480
<v Speaker 2>star when you have so many things that other people want?

0:38:44.080 --> 0:38:45.600
<v Speaker 2>How do you do it to where you do? You

0:38:45.680 --> 0:38:48.920
<v Speaker 2>have kids that are not only successful, but they're hungry

0:38:49.000 --> 0:38:51.440
<v Speaker 2>for more. That's really the thing that so many of

0:38:51.480 --> 0:38:54.919
<v Speaker 2>us who have young athletes that we want and when

0:38:54.920 --> 0:38:57.319
<v Speaker 2>you're raised in fair affluence, you think they're not going

0:38:57.400 --> 0:38:58.040
<v Speaker 2>to have that hunger.

0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:02.080
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what the I

0:39:02.120 --> 0:39:04.320
<v Speaker 7>don't know if there's a magic bullet on that. I

0:39:04.600 --> 0:39:07.560
<v Speaker 7>think just you know, I think them understanding what it

0:39:07.640 --> 0:39:10.400
<v Speaker 7>took and getting a chance to be around me, uh

0:39:10.560 --> 0:39:12.359
<v Speaker 7>in my career, and getting a chance to watch all

0:39:12.400 --> 0:39:16.560
<v Speaker 7>my teammates, and I think then then identifying the level

0:39:16.640 --> 0:39:18.960
<v Speaker 7>of work that it takes to play at the highest

0:39:19.040 --> 0:39:21.880
<v Speaker 7>level and for them to see, you know, the best

0:39:21.880 --> 0:39:23.920
<v Speaker 7>players and what they you know, the work that's put in,

0:39:24.600 --> 0:39:27.360
<v Speaker 7>I think was really good for them to understand. And

0:39:27.640 --> 0:39:31.880
<v Speaker 7>I think it also it uh, it created a passion

0:39:32.440 --> 0:39:35.759
<v Speaker 7>I think for the game and for wanting to do

0:39:35.800 --> 0:39:37.759
<v Speaker 7>that for a living and for them wanting to be

0:39:37.880 --> 0:39:43.080
<v Speaker 7>pro baseball players. I think being around it and it's

0:39:43.120 --> 0:39:44.799
<v Speaker 7>you know, it kind of provoked them to want to

0:39:44.840 --> 0:39:47.239
<v Speaker 7>want to do that. And so I always told him,

0:39:47.360 --> 0:39:49.359
<v Speaker 7>you know, I would throw to them or hit them

0:39:49.360 --> 0:39:52.120
<v Speaker 7>ground balls or whatever they wanted to do all day

0:39:52.400 --> 0:39:54.560
<v Speaker 7>if if it was their idea. But I wasn't going

0:39:54.640 --> 0:39:56.319
<v Speaker 7>to force them that. I wasn't going to make them

0:39:56.360 --> 0:40:00.000
<v Speaker 7>go practice that in baseball. Really, you know, in all sports,

0:40:00.160 --> 0:40:02.840
<v Speaker 7>as you know, you have to have a passion for

0:40:02.880 --> 0:40:05.400
<v Speaker 7>the practice, and you have to love the behind the

0:40:05.400 --> 0:40:08.480
<v Speaker 7>scene work, and you have to love the the the

0:40:08.520 --> 0:40:11.680
<v Speaker 7>skill development just as much as you love the game

0:40:11.760 --> 0:40:14.120
<v Speaker 7>in front of a ton of people and the good

0:40:14.160 --> 0:40:16.719
<v Speaker 7>the four for fours and the highs of of of

0:40:16.800 --> 0:40:20.520
<v Speaker 7>winning and and and and being you know, the sort

0:40:20.560 --> 0:40:23.200
<v Speaker 7>of the star player. You have to love all of

0:40:23.239 --> 0:40:27.160
<v Speaker 7>the process just as much because that's how hard, you know,

0:40:27.200 --> 0:40:29.000
<v Speaker 7>the sport is at the highest level that you have

0:40:29.080 --> 0:40:32.319
<v Speaker 7>to continue to work and and and and fight for

0:40:32.400 --> 0:40:35.200
<v Speaker 7>every day that that every day is a competition you

0:40:35.360 --> 0:40:38.560
<v Speaker 7>challenge and if you don't you can get embarrassed.

0:40:38.560 --> 0:40:39.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean it really is.

0:40:39.560 --> 0:40:45.880
<v Speaker 7>And individual league night you're playing the best of bringing

0:40:45.920 --> 0:40:50.040
<v Speaker 7>it both mentally and physically. Uh, I mean, you have

0:40:50.080 --> 0:40:52.200
<v Speaker 7>to have to bring it on hundred percent every night.

0:40:52.360 --> 0:40:55.160
<v Speaker 7>And I think that the fact that they were raised

0:40:55.160 --> 0:40:57.960
<v Speaker 7>in that environment really you know, helped them understand what

0:40:58.000 --> 0:41:00.239
<v Speaker 7>it took. And and then like I said, the out

0:41:00.239 --> 0:41:01.400
<v Speaker 7>their passion for the practice.

0:41:02.760 --> 0:41:04.719
<v Speaker 3>Quick one for you met holiday before we let you go.

0:41:05.239 --> 0:41:07.480
<v Speaker 3>When Doug Gottlieb stays with you, does he also put

0:41:07.520 --> 0:41:10.160
<v Speaker 3>his feet on your furniture? Like he does sometimes at work.

0:41:12.040 --> 0:41:14.160
<v Speaker 7>Uh yeah, but that's really invited our house.

0:41:14.560 --> 0:41:15.800
<v Speaker 3>Okay, all right.

0:41:16.239 --> 0:41:18.640
<v Speaker 7>We have four dogs and we have you know, it's

0:41:18.760 --> 0:41:21.919
<v Speaker 7>it's uh, it fits right in. Yeah, so it's it's

0:41:21.960 --> 0:41:25.279
<v Speaker 7>it's uh everyone puts their feet everywhere, so it's uh,

0:41:25.480 --> 0:41:28.600
<v Speaker 7>it's it's right up. He probably learned that at our house.

0:41:28.719 --> 0:41:33.960
<v Speaker 2>Doesn't have you have three dogs in Trooper. Nobody likes Trooper. Nobody, nobody, nobody,

0:41:34.000 --> 0:41:35.240
<v Speaker 2>nobody likes Nobody likes Trooper.

0:41:35.680 --> 0:41:35.960
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

0:41:36.200 --> 0:41:38.080
<v Speaker 2>Hey man, I'm so happy. I can't wait to see

0:41:38.160 --> 0:41:41.359
<v Speaker 2>Jackson he comes out to the big a uh next week.

0:41:41.719 --> 0:41:44.000
<v Speaker 2>Safe travels for you, guys, and let's see if Jackson

0:41:44.000 --> 0:41:45.520
<v Speaker 2>get his first home run night off Peralta.

0:41:46.400 --> 0:41:48.040
<v Speaker 7>That was good, all right, thanks for having me on guys.

0:41:48.040 --> 0:41:49.759
<v Speaker 2>All right, it's Matt Holiday joining us. Is just a

0:41:49.840 --> 0:41:53.560
<v Speaker 2>real close friend of mine. But can you imagine, like

0:41:53.760 --> 0:41:55.719
<v Speaker 2>you strip it all away, you've you've done all that

0:41:55.800 --> 0:41:59.799
<v Speaker 2>stuff yourself, and you know they work literally every day

0:42:00.600 --> 0:42:04.520
<v Speaker 2>in the barn at Matt's house on hitting and to

0:42:04.560 --> 0:42:07.480
<v Speaker 2>see your twenty year old kid like get called up,

0:42:07.760 --> 0:42:11.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't know's I've had a lot of dad moments.

0:42:11.360 --> 0:42:14.040
<v Speaker 2>That's a pretty good one, pretty good, pretty good one.

0:42:14.040 --> 0:42:14.319
<v Speaker 1>All right.

0:42:14.360 --> 0:42:16.279
<v Speaker 2>Coming up next to the Dan Patrick Show here on

0:42:16.400 --> 0:42:20.800
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