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Speaker 2: also I did want to say this in regards to
Speaker 2: Mark Pope. So the new head coach of Kentucky is
Speaker 2: gonna be Mark Pope, and apparently, like Kentucky fans are
Speaker 2: not happy about it. Like we went from like Dan
Speaker 2: Hurley and Billy Donovan and uh maybe getting Scot Drew
Speaker 2: to Mark Pope, who's one of their own but hasn't
Speaker 2: had some long illustrious head coaching career. Can I let
Speaker 2: you in on a secret you're getting closer doesn't matter anymore,
Speaker 2: Location doesn't matter, History doesn't matter. Do you want to
Speaker 2: know what matters? Money? Okay? And it's it's basically a
Speaker 2: free market, and if the donors will supply him with nil,
Speaker 2: which is buying players, then you'll be fine. Can he coach? Yeah, like,
Speaker 2: well he has had a great recruiting class. Well, guess
Speaker 2: what now he's got a bunch of money and he's
Speaker 2: got Kentucky. So that goes out the window. Right. Unless
Speaker 2: you have money, you have no chance in the SEC.
Speaker 2: And you're gonna see players flocked to the SEC. They
Speaker 2: have better players than the rest of the leagues. You
Speaker 2: know why, because they have the most money and they
Speaker 2: spend the most money. That's it anyway, So you can
Speaker 2: be you your happiness doesn't really matter. It's the five
Speaker 2: or six guys that are gonna they're gonna give the capital,
Speaker 2: and as long as they keep giving money, you'll keep
Speaker 2: getting players. And the second that they stop giving money,
Speaker 2: you don't get the players. That's what happened at Arkansas
Speaker 2: where Eric Musselman had been there. They went to two
Speaker 2: Elite eights, and then they had a disappointing season, and
Speaker 2: then whatever happened, the money people were like, we're not
Speaker 2: giving money if he's the coach, and then you can't
Speaker 2: have a team. So then he goes to USC and
Speaker 2: they're like, we'll give it money. And they're bringing John
Speaker 2: cal Perry and we'll give them money. Did you see
Speaker 2: the press conference for Arkansas? They actually introduced Johnny Tyson,
Speaker 2: who's who runs Tyson Chicken and Tyson Foods, actually introduced
Speaker 2: the booster, like, hey, the guy who's responsible for it.
Speaker 2: We didn't do god anymore, not the president, right, not
Speaker 2: the ad. Let's just cut through it. Okay, none of
Speaker 2: this happens if not for your money. So Johnny wants
Speaker 2: to stand up and you're essentially the facto owner of
Speaker 2: this whole thing, why don't you stand up and take
Speaker 2: about I love it too, Like I I love it
Speaker 2: when the name is I mean it's his where it's
Speaker 2: not like, hey, this is a David McHenry, you know,
Speaker 2: the head of Tyson, Like when you're the Tyson of Tyson.
Speaker 2: It's it's magnificent, it is. It's really it's really such
Speaker 2: a power play, it really is. Yeah, let's all have
Speaker 2: some Tyson Chicken and there's Johnny Tyson. This is the
Speaker 2: Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio. So I I've
Speaker 2: heard this from a couple of people, not a ton
Speaker 2: of people, but the whole reaction to OJ Simpson and
Speaker 2: Dying O J. Simpson Die and uh Shannon Sharp, who
Speaker 2: of course has a podcast called uh uh is it
Speaker 2: the Last Call?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: This is on Last Call? Or no called Nightcap? Do
Speaker 2: I know it's Nightcap? This is a great I don't
Speaker 2: think I've touched you guys. This So the genius behind
Speaker 2: Colin Cowherd's I say genius. I'm not being sarcastic. I
Speaker 2: think he's a brilliant dude. His name's Logan Sway. So
Speaker 2: Logan is one of the guys who runs things for
Speaker 2: Colin Cowherd's Volume podcast network and Colin's podcast has network
Speaker 2: has Shannon Sharp and uh Shiadow, josinco Right, Chad John's
Speaker 2: and their show is called Nightcap. Well, Nightcap was the
Speaker 2: name we wanted to have for my TV show with
Speaker 2: Ali LaForce. Logan was my producer, and they changed it
Speaker 2: to leadoff It's the show at night, but it was
Speaker 2: going to lead off the next day like it's kind
Speaker 2: of a baseball analogy. But anyway, I always like Nightcap.
Speaker 2: So this was Shannon Sharp who was reacting to He's
Speaker 2: reacting to, Uh, oh you don't we don't have Okay,
Speaker 2: So did you see what did you hear what Shannon
Speaker 2: Sharp said? He's like, listen, people who never wish ill
Speaker 2: upon the dead? Right, Shannon Sharp and Chad Johnson both
Speaker 2: saying never wish ill upon the dead when oj Simpson does.
Speaker 3: Since when.
Speaker 2: You're not allowed to wish ill upon the dead when
Speaker 2: he's responsible for the deaths of two people, including his
Speaker 2: ex wife. Really, no, no, no, no, no, I don't. I don't.
Speaker 2: I'm not the bad guy for not mourning the loss
Speaker 2: of the bad guy. Sorry, right, And this is not
Speaker 2: like sports guy. This is not you know, Barry Bonds
Speaker 2: who took steroids that's the only way he could pass
Speaker 2: Henry Arn's record. This is not even Alex Rodriguez, like
Speaker 2: the shadiest worst dude ever. Like, no, no, this is
Speaker 2: a completely different level. We talk about sports and business
Speaker 2: like the murderers. I think you got a special place
Speaker 2: in hell there, right, But it's more than just being
Speaker 2: responsible for and I believe, though found innocent in a
Speaker 2: criminal court of law, I believe he did it. There's
Speaker 2: the interview. You guys have all seen the interview right
Speaker 2: where he went through the imaginary scenario. You know, if
Speaker 2: in this scenario and then all of a sudden. You
Speaker 2: can see him walking you through that night, and he's
Speaker 2: got this nefarious Charlie figure.
Speaker 3: Yes, I did see that.
Speaker 2: Dude's just sociopath. Like, what are we all doing? You
Speaker 2: don't have to, you don't have to when Charlie Manson died,
Speaker 2: did you have to go like, you know, hey, listen,
Speaker 2: I'll due respect to the passing of the Charlie Manson,
Speaker 2: you murder somebody or responsible for or the softest I
Speaker 2: could ever go is well at least he one knows
Speaker 2: who did it. And for all of this time, for
Speaker 2: the thirty years since the passing of his ex wife,
Speaker 2: he couldn't give her family peace. And so now he
Speaker 2: dies or supposed to go like, hey, you know he
Speaker 2: died like, never speak ill upon the dead. No, so
Speaker 2: horrible human being, he's got a first class ticket to hell.
Speaker 2: Why am I supposed to feel bad? Why am I
Speaker 2: supposed to not speak poorly of the dead. You're a
Speaker 2: god fearing Christian man, Dad? Am I wrong?
Speaker 1: Here?
Speaker 2: Am I the bad guy for saying that?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: I don't think that you're the bad guy. I think
Speaker 3: that there are a lot of people that share your
Speaker 3: opinion on this. I do not share the opinion of
Speaker 3: Shannon Sharp. I also think that Shannon Sharp because he
Speaker 3: attacked Caitlyn Jenner.
Speaker 2: Uh, oh, that's what it was. It was about. It
Speaker 2: was about Kaitlyn Jenner.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's where it ended up because she made a
Speaker 3: comment on Twitter, and so I think that's where X
Speaker 3: wherever it was, that's where I think that it was angled.
Speaker 3: But I do not, I do not think. I don't
Speaker 3: have the angst that you have, but I am in
Speaker 3: lockstep with you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just it's not about treating people. And like
Speaker 2: there was a post on social media, which I don't
Speaker 2: know to be true, but I don't know to be
Speaker 2: a lie. Where there's a woman who said she signed
Speaker 2: an NDA and she was at USC in the mid
Speaker 2: nineties and he battered women there. You know, he had
Speaker 2: the charges against him with Nicole. I'm simply talking about
Speaker 2: murdering two people and never asking for forgiveness, never copping
Speaker 2: to it, never helping anybody find who the real killers
Speaker 2: were as he pledged to do. Like, the whole thing's
Speaker 2: a complete sham. And I'm not going to sit here
Speaker 2: and go just because he died, like my dad died
Speaker 2: of cancer, Like I usually have great sympathy for anybody
Speaker 2: who goes through that fight. You know, one of my
Speaker 2: best friend's dad died of colon cancer, which I think,
Speaker 2: what he what he died of, right, But I'm not
Speaker 2: going to sit here and do the cancer thing and
Speaker 2: go do the woe was Me thing for OJ Simpson. No, thanks,
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 3: I was not directly affected like ninety nine point nine
Speaker 3: nine nine percent of us from this, although ninety nine
Speaker 3: point nine nine nine percent of us were wrapped up
Speaker 3: into the story. I'll make this quick, but when this
Speaker 3: all happened, I hadn't moved out to southern California yet.
Speaker 3: In fact, when I did move out to southern California,
Speaker 3: and where I lived wasn't too far from where the
Speaker 3: murders took place. So when family came in, guess where
Speaker 3: I would take them on a tour. That's one of
Speaker 3: the streets we would go by, and I would say, hey,
Speaker 3: this is where this happened about probably within the last
Speaker 3: decade or so. I always remember that Ron Goldman's sibling
Speaker 3: sister had personalized plates. I think his dad did as well.
Speaker 3: In honoring Ron, and my wife and I were going
Speaker 3: out to a restaurant where we lived and I saw
Speaker 3: the personalized plate, and we went into the restaurant and
Speaker 3: I saw the family they're eating, and I thought to
Speaker 3: myself this, I thought, I'm going in there and I'm
Speaker 3: looking for them. We know them, we know their faces.
Speaker 3: Now this maybe twenty years thirty years past it. But
Speaker 3: they're not having dinner, and they're probably getting unique stairs.
Speaker 3: And they're not getting unique stairs because they're famous. They're
Speaker 3: getting unique stairs because their son was murdered. And to
Speaker 3: that point of just reality of it's got to be
Speaker 3: a living hell to live every single day with that
Speaker 3: memory that your son is not there, to the point
Speaker 3: of now you can't even go in and get lost
Speaker 3: in public because you're reminded about it because as people
Speaker 3: see who you are, like it was such a different
Speaker 3: Like just I just thought about it. I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 3: don't look, don't stare, don't be awkward. You know, it's
Speaker 3: a familiar face. It's different when you see a celebrity
Speaker 3: at a restaurant, right, this is completely different, and if
Speaker 3: you make eye contact, they know exactly why you're looking
Speaker 3: at that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I I this is one of those. To me,
Speaker 2: it's the time. Can heal some wounds not that one. Yep,
Speaker 2: not that one. Sorry, not that one. And even if
Speaker 2: it was, you know, I mean, part of it is
Speaker 2: if you know, we know about the grisliness of the
Speaker 2: of the murders. It's not like there was an argument
Speaker 2: in a fight and somebody lost their temper, got scared
Speaker 2: and fired off like a warning shot and like one
Speaker 2: of those deal crime of passion, but just the idea
Speaker 2: of whatever happened, whatever happened, the family was never given
Speaker 2: piece and and to that that's just ultimate cruelty, ultimate
Speaker 2: cruelty to not give people piece of what happened. It's like, look,
Speaker 2: we can get over the fact that you got that,
Speaker 2: you got off of the murder chart. Just tell us
Speaker 2: what happens.
Speaker 5: We just know.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if you really want to know,
Speaker 2: but you get so far deep into it and you
Speaker 2: get to every you go through a trial, you see,
Speaker 2: you wear every detail of it, so you kind of know,
Speaker 2: just like, dude, come on, and then you carry on
Speaker 2: this charade if I did it and in this in
Speaker 2: this scenario, and you have every sort of detail, he's
Speaker 2: the worst. He's the worst. No, death does not help you,
Speaker 2: in my mind, it does not help you escape this thing. Eh,
Speaker 2: you mean you tell me that you died of cancer
Speaker 2: and you couldn't still tell everybody what really happened. Just
Speaker 2: come just empty your soul because you don't have one.
Speaker 2: So no, I don't feel sympathy. No, I yes, I
Speaker 2: can speak poorly of the dead. I'm Doug Gottliebe's Dan
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Speaker 2: just got a great tweet from Kelly Lace. That's at
Speaker 2: Dad too. Twin girls. Hey, by the way, happy congratulations.
Speaker 2: I have twin girls. They turn eighteen on Sunday. How
Speaker 2: old is your boy? Crazy? Anyway, says as a pro,
Speaker 2: his worst day would be any average golfer's best day
Speaker 2: at Augusta. Just like you saying, pick up basketball. That's
Speaker 2: why when people talk trash to me in basketball, because
Speaker 2: I was never particularly good, but now I'm really not good.
Speaker 2: I just say, hey, dude, this is this is the
Speaker 2: best day of your career, the worst of mine. Let's
Speaker 2: just get through this thing. Anyway. Jordan Speed shot at
Speaker 2: seventy nine yesterday.
Speaker 3: Well, they completed today. It was not good today. He
Speaker 3: took a nine on fifteen and it was Yeah, it
Speaker 3: was not pretty. You sometimes wonder if sp He's going
Speaker 3: to have that magic and it disappeared this morning. It
Speaker 3: was not there.
Speaker 2: What happened to Jordan Speed.
Speaker 3: Chipped back into the water, so then he had to
Speaker 3: take a drop on.
Speaker 1: The other side.
Speaker 2: I don't mean what happened on the nine. I mean
Speaker 2: what happened, and then.
Speaker 3: What flubbed his chip? Then he missed his putt, and
Speaker 3: then he tapped in for a nine.
Speaker 2: That feels like me, I love when I get on
Speaker 2: the green like part five and two, Like yeah I can,
Speaker 2: I can get it in four from here, no question?
Speaker 2: But no, what legit? Like what happened? Like he was
Speaker 2: the next one, He was the next one six feet
Speaker 2: in He never missed a putt. That dude was an unbelievas.
Speaker 2: He was a.
Speaker 3: Machine ball striker. Yeah what happened. He was never the longest,
Speaker 3: you know, so it was never the most athletic, but
Speaker 3: he would get hot, yes, and he would get a
Speaker 3: hot uh. And he knows how to play in those
Speaker 3: clutch situations. Yeah, just it happens.
Speaker 2: It such a hard such a heart, such a we're
Speaker 2: doing are we gonna do that? SCLF? Like that's baseball,
Speaker 2: that's the SCLF. Golf, It just happens. I just golf
Speaker 2: is the I'm trying to think, which is the most
Speaker 2: miserable sport when you're not playing well? Like when in
Speaker 2: basketball with must they just take you out?
Speaker 3: Yes, or you can get an assister or a rebound. Golf,
Speaker 3: there's no hiding. There's no hiding.
Speaker 2: There's no hiding like tennis. Like in tennis, when you
Speaker 2: just don't have it or you're overwhelmed, like it's over quick.
Speaker 2: You know, it's just over quick. That thing like there's
Speaker 2: nowhere you can go. I mean, you could retire, but
Speaker 2: you don't retire.
Speaker 3: The other thing is your opponent may stink in tennis,
Speaker 3: so that may give you a little breather. With golf,
Speaker 3: there's nothing you can do.
Speaker 2: No and just unrelenting courses, unrelenting. Did you see Travis
Speaker 2: Kelcey graduated from the University of Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: No, I didn't see that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So he got his degree for the University of Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: He walked and upon receiving said diploma, he broke out
Speaker 2: a beer and pounded the beer. Now I'm gonna preface
Speaker 2: this by saying, along my path, I have met and
Speaker 2: spent time with Travis Kelcey. Now this was years ago
Speaker 2: when he had the reality show where he dated like
Speaker 2: thirty two women in the summer. And I find Travis
Speaker 2: to be awesome, hilarious, fun. You know, obviously his brother
Speaker 2: Jason is like the every guy, and you know, Travis's
Speaker 2: a little bit was a little bit more of the
Speaker 2: playboy a little bit, but like, nothing is more on
Speaker 2: brand than the need for attention. Nothing says I need
Speaker 2: attention more than these two time you know, the back
Speaker 2: to back super Bowl champion tight end who's dating the
Speaker 2: most famous woman on earth doing the Look at me,
Speaker 2: I'm pounding a beer when I haven't. It's like one
Speaker 2: thing if you're just turned twenty one, you're twenty two
Speaker 2: and you're the football dude, but like pro you're in
Speaker 2: your thirties, you're kind of a grown up. Now you're
Speaker 2: going to pound a beer after getting your diploma.
Speaker 3: Also, because most college graduations are Doug Gottlieb, dan Byer,
Speaker 3: Chasing Stewart, Joel Elliott, Dan Patrick, Seaton, O'Connor, Paul Papps,
Speaker 3: Fritz really good what you're doing? Yes, like that's what
Speaker 3: they are, fast, like it's it's he had the moment
Speaker 3: his parents were on stage. Now that I'm seeing the video, Yeah,
Speaker 3: it had to be a sponsored deal, right, Like whoever
Speaker 3: that beer or drink was it's a ball narrow.
Speaker 2: Fan, Yes, yes, brought to you by Pfizer. He was
Speaker 2: the Pfizer add he did. Yes, that would be that
Speaker 2: would be the most Travis Kelcey thing ever, is if
Speaker 2: it was all sponsored by Also it's one of those
Speaker 2: deals where I'm sure everybody knows who he is, but
Speaker 2: there's plenty of people like, who is that guy? Why
Speaker 2: is he pound? Get off the stage, man, I want
Speaker 2: to see my nephew. Mark Dominic joins us. He spent
Speaker 2: over twenty years in NFL front offices. Of course, he's
Speaker 2: the general manager of the Tampay Buccaneers, and he joins
Speaker 2: us here and Dan Patrick show Fox Sports trader Dan
Speaker 2: Buyer alongside him, Doug Gottliebin, we're getting closer and closer
Speaker 2: to the draft. What are the smokes signals? What do
Speaker 2: you think the commanders do? Because that really feels like
Speaker 2: where the draft can pivot and change based upon who.
Speaker 3: They take it to. Mark.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they're doing their due diligence obviously on Drake May
Speaker 6: and Jade Daniels and trying to figure out which one
Speaker 6: they're going to go with. I don't believe it's j. J. McCarthy.
Speaker 6: I don't think that that's where they've got him quote pegged,
Speaker 6: and I think it comes down to, you know, obviously
Speaker 6: the offensive coordinator, what he's dealt with before in terms
Speaker 6: of you know, Alex van Pelt and to me in
Speaker 6: terms of Green Bay, it's kind of unique where I
Speaker 6: think that seems more excuse me, New England, that seems
Speaker 6: more of the May. I think Washington feels a little
Speaker 6: more Jayden Daniels based off of what they do offensively,
Speaker 6: what they're going to want to do.
Speaker 3: Excuse me, Mark, Do you think Washington ever had a
Speaker 3: legit shot to move up one spot for Caleb Williams.
Speaker 6: No, I don't think so. And I don't think that
Speaker 6: the Bears are looking for that they needed, They needed
Speaker 6: the uh, this player. It's so much more important than
Speaker 6: picks and uh, you know, if you're gonna bet on it,
Speaker 6: they're obviously going all in on Caleb Williams, and you've
Speaker 6: got to take a shot when you've got that spot.
Speaker 2: Okay, So if Jayden Daniels goes to Washington, Okay, who's
Speaker 2: the next quarterback to go?
Speaker 6: Say they again?
Speaker 2: Dog, If Daniels goes to Washington, who's the next quarterback
Speaker 2: to go?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I think Drake May goes. I mean,
Speaker 6: I think it's gonna be uh, Drake May is certainly
Speaker 6: the next quarterback. Then I think it's JJ or you know,
Speaker 6: it starts to get into Michael Pennock's kind of world.
Speaker 6: So I think that those two might pull fall down
Speaker 6: a little bit further, like JJ may fall a little
Speaker 6: bit further down the ladder, but they're both obviously, I think,
Speaker 6: going to go in the top fifteen. So I think
Speaker 6: JJ has the chance still to be maybe that you know,
Speaker 6: eighth or ninth pick if one of those teams, like
Speaker 6: the Minnesota wants to pop up and go get him.
Speaker 6: But I think it's the three quarterbacks and then I
Speaker 6: think you see the receiver start to pull off the
Speaker 6: board in offensive tackles. I think that you're going to
Speaker 6: see possibly seven or eight straight offensive players before we
Speaker 6: see Dallas Turner come off the board towards the end
Speaker 6: of that first top ten picks.
Speaker 3: So Minnesota obviously made the deal so they could get
Speaker 3: to first rounders. Do you do that deal with a
Speaker 3: person in mind, or do you do it to just
Speaker 3: have the ability to move up. Is there a scenario
Speaker 3: where they end up staying or now are they pot
Speaker 3: committed and have to move up because they acquired that
Speaker 3: second first.
Speaker 6: You know, I think they did it because when I
Speaker 6: look at the value of that trade. The trade from
Speaker 6: a analytics standpoint or from a value standpoint, says you
Speaker 6: make that trade every time, especially not being on the clock,
Speaker 6: because you don't know what player is going to be there,
Speaker 6: So the trade can become more valuable based off I
Speaker 6: think to me, the more quarterbacks that come off the board, uh,
Speaker 6: you know, brings a positional player that's going to drop
Speaker 6: to that pick, and so I think it becomes a
Speaker 6: much more valuable pick. I think that doesn't mean they
Speaker 6: have to go move up. They don't have a lot
Speaker 6: of ammunition behind that pick, so it's kind of like,
Speaker 6: you know, are you going all in?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 6: So we'll see what they do. But I think they
Speaker 6: just made the trade because the value was too good,
Speaker 6: not because hey, we've got to use this to go
Speaker 6: get a quarterback.
Speaker 2: Hm. What what is it like in that draft room
Speaker 2: when when you're you know, when you're trying to figure
Speaker 2: out what you want and who's going like how how
Speaker 2: close can you peg it? When you're sitting in the
Speaker 2: five spot or the seventh spot in terms of what
Speaker 2: happens before.
Speaker 6: You, you're pretty close. H you should have a pretty
Speaker 6: good understanding. I know that when I was picking five,
Speaker 6: I felt like I could move back to seven and
Speaker 6: still get one of my top two guys and they
Speaker 6: were both on the board when I was at seven,
Speaker 6: So uh, I think that that's one of those things
Speaker 6: where you've got to do a lot of work right now,
Speaker 6: and there's there's fun questions you can ask people, and
Speaker 6: I think could be an interesting opportunity for you, Doug
Speaker 6: at some point with your interviewing of gms. But here's
Speaker 6: the question that's a trick question and you can get
Speaker 6: a lot of information out and that we'll share it
Speaker 6: with you because we do this all the time. But
Speaker 6: the question you ask a general manager is do you think, uh,
Speaker 6: who's a good Uh Do you think Joe Alt will
Speaker 6: get to you at seven?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 6: So now you ask maybe the Arizona Cardinals, or you
Speaker 6: ask you know, a team that's in between. And if
Speaker 6: they say yeah, I think he'll be there, they're not
Speaker 6: thinking about subconsciously, they're innswer the question we won't take him.
Speaker 6: And if they say, hey, I don't think he's gonna
Speaker 6: make it there, that means they have him high up
Speaker 6: on the board where they're going to consider him right.
Speaker 6: So it's a very interesting question you can ask somebody
Speaker 6: if you're in the in the draft situation, and you
Speaker 6: got to use it pointedly. You got to use it
Speaker 6: carefully because you don't want to over and date it.
Speaker 6: But you've got to pick an individual player that you say, hey,
Speaker 6: do you think he'll make it to you? And that's
Speaker 6: what I used to do with GMS. I used to
Speaker 6: talk to teams and go, you know, I don't want
Speaker 6: to tell boards. I'm just kind of curious, like, you know,
Speaker 6: picking some butt guys that I thought were going to
Speaker 6: go in front of me. Maybe when backtick in eighteen
Speaker 6: or nineteen. You know, I talked to maybe a team
Speaker 6: that was at twelve or thirteen, say, hey, do you
Speaker 6: think that there's any way that Ryan Kerrigan makes it
Speaker 6: to you at eighteen? And they're like, nah, he's certainly,
Speaker 6: and I don't think he's gonna be there, you know,
Speaker 6: and then suddenly it's like, okay, so they have him
Speaker 6: high up on the board consider and that's kind of
Speaker 6: inside information.
Speaker 2: Can cold like I like that. Now you can even
Speaker 2: tweak it even more and do the true like like
Speaker 2: never ask a guest no, and go, what's the likelihood
Speaker 2: that he gets to you?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 6: Absolutely? And again it's a it's a tell that they're
Speaker 6: going to use within the organization. You could do it
Speaker 6: as the head coach. You could certainly do it to
Speaker 6: the general manager, because those two are gonna have the
Speaker 6: best sense of like who they really want to take
Speaker 6: as compared to maybe what the overall feeling might be
Speaker 6: in a building.
Speaker 3: Last week, going we talked to dominic Key told us
Speaker 3: how he would find these mock drafters and totally give them,
Speaker 3: Like how did you find that information when they were
Speaker 3: completely off the set, Like they weren't even they weren't
Speaker 3: even in the same county. So there's a you see
Speaker 3: the little backway deal of general managers here, all right?
Speaker 3: I aggress you mentioned number five. Number five right now
Speaker 3: is the Chargers. It is Doug's team. Is there such
Speaker 3: a thing as first pick of your tenuere? Like, is
Speaker 3: this are we making Jim Harbaugh's first pick as the
Speaker 3: Chargers head coach? Are we making a bigger deal out
Speaker 3: of it than maybe it actually is? Or is this
Speaker 3: actually a big deal because it's pick number one of
Speaker 3: his tenure with the Chargers.
Speaker 6: No, I think it's a big deal. But I think
Speaker 6: it's a big deal because I don't expect the Chargers
Speaker 6: to be up there again for a long time. You know,
Speaker 6: I think that they're going to be able to put
Speaker 6: together an offense here that is going to be very exciting,
Speaker 6: and I think they're going to have the pick of
Speaker 6: the litter for the most part in terms of so
Speaker 6: I want an offensive tackle, do I want the tight
Speaker 6: end or do I want the wide receiver? And I
Speaker 6: think that they're is coming down to all three, and
Speaker 6: I think that the offensive line is like we said
Speaker 6: last week, I still think that's a sneaky in play
Speaker 6: move that the Chargers could do to kind of solidify,
Speaker 6: you know, justin Herbert in terms of protecting their most
Speaker 6: important asset. It's not the sexiest pick. It's more sexy
Speaker 6: to take brock Powers or you know, whichever receiver happens
Speaker 6: to be there at five. But I can understand that
Speaker 6: all three of those are in play. But I think
Speaker 6: they're just so critical that they've got to get it right,
Speaker 6: because again, I don't think the charge is going to
Speaker 6: be in this kind of situation again next year the
Speaker 6: following because I think Carbo is going to make this
Speaker 6: team a playoff team.
Speaker 2: Wow. From your lips to God's ears, the Chargers will
Speaker 2: actually achieve the level of their talent. But but let me okay, so,
Speaker 2: but if we look at what the Chargers have done,
Speaker 2: it does feel like they're crafting this offense under the
Speaker 2: guidance of Greg Roman. Right Like, you bring in, you know,
Speaker 2: a tight end he drafted, he was there for a draft.
Speaker 2: You know, you bring in a running back, You're you're
Speaker 2: making this into a Greg Roman offense. Doesn't that stream? Hey,
Speaker 2: go get Brock Powers where you have another pass catching
Speaker 2: tight end.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it does. I actually think it does.
Speaker 6: And I think a lot of people who are mocking
Speaker 6: Brock Powers at fifteen or sixteen are way off one
Speaker 6: where the NFL club see Brock Powers as a player
Speaker 6: and then it was possible.
Speaker 2: Oh he's amazing. He's amazing, am he's the best playing
Speaker 2: in SEC.
Speaker 6: I don't dis I mean, he's a great, great football
Speaker 6: player at a pivotal position. And it's a quarterback's best friend.
Speaker 6: And in the end, you know, kind of what you
Speaker 6: think about what Greg Roman's done, and especially when he
Speaker 6: was in Baltimore, what.
Speaker 1: Did they do?
Speaker 6: They drafted guy the draft guys maybe late wide receivers
Speaker 6: in the first round, but second and third round where
Speaker 6: they take the vertical guys. So the worthy, the guys
Speaker 6: that can run vertical. That's where the Baltimore Ravens have
Speaker 6: always done that. They push your defense down the field
Speaker 6: to open up stuff underneath from Mark Andrews or the
Speaker 6: run game. And so I think that they're going to do.
Speaker 6: I think they'll do tight end or offensive line if
Speaker 6: it's a shock, but I think the wide receivers later
Speaker 6: in the draft because I think they're going to get
Speaker 6: vertical guys like they've always done before when Roman was
Speaker 6: the offense coordinator in Baltimore.
Speaker 2: There we go. Hey man, this INSIGHT's amazing. Love have
Speaker 2: you on my show. Love you having on this show.
Speaker 2: Hope you have a great weekend.
Speaker 6: Thanks so much for joining us, guys, thanks for having
Speaker 6: me on. I can't believe it.
Speaker 2: Two weeks to two weeks. Mark Dominic joins us here
Speaker 2: in the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio. What
Speaker 2: is incredible, by the way, I just great, dude, incredible,
Speaker 2: valuable asset, Like giving you the whole Like, here's how
Speaker 2: you get your information. Uh, I'm Doug Gottlieb. He's Dan
Speaker 2: Byron in for Dan and the Danettes here and the
Speaker 2: Dan Patrick's show. What would it be like to see
Speaker 2: your son get called up to the bigs when you're
Speaker 2: a former big leaguer. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Do you know?
Speaker 2: Our next guest knows he'll join us. I'm the Dan
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Speaker 2: Doug Gottlieb, Dan Byron for Dan Patrick, Dan The Danetes You,
Speaker 2: and The Dan Patrick Show Foxsports Radio. So look, I
Speaker 2: think everybody thinks of these moments in an athlete's career
Speaker 2: year that are unique and special, like what you'd what
Speaker 2: you have in base baseball is because of the true
Speaker 2: minor league system, maybe because of how we've the movies
Speaker 2: like Bull Durham, Like the idea of getting a call
Speaker 2: up from the to the show from the minor leagues
Speaker 2: is something that sounds really really cool.
Speaker 3: Then when you.
Speaker 2: Factor in, well, it's a former number one overall pick
Speaker 2: who it was only a year and a half ago,
Speaker 2: is number one pick and oh yeah, by the way,
Speaker 2: he's the son of a dear friend of mine who
Speaker 2: is an All star in his own right, and it
Speaker 2: happens even cooler. So we've kind of on my show,
Speaker 2: The Doug Gottlieb Show, which airs every day at three
Speaker 2: eastern New Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, we've kind of
Speaker 2: all adopted Jackson Holiday is like our guy to watch
Speaker 2: this year in baseball, to pay attention to baseball. But
Speaker 2: the guy who he actually it's actually his son doesn't
Speaker 2: have to adopt him is Matt Holliday, and he joins
Speaker 2: us now on the Dan Patrick Show. Matt, how you what, Doug?
Speaker 7: Ho are we doing?
Speaker 3: Good man?
Speaker 2: What what is that like to watch your son play
Speaker 2: in the bigs?
Speaker 7: Well, it's really exciting. Uh it was, you know, I
Speaker 7: expected it at some point this year, obviously didn't didn't
Speaker 7: know when, and and so, uh when he called me
Speaker 7: a couple of nights ago and and said that he
Speaker 7: was he was headed to Boston, uh pretty cool, pretty
Speaker 7: cool feeling, and pretty exciting for our family. So we
Speaker 7: immediately pivoted and tried to figure out how we were
Speaker 7: going to get to Boston the next day and and
Speaker 7: get to the game and uh try to get everybody
Speaker 7: that wanted to be there, uh to the game. And uh,
Speaker 7: so it was it was pretty exciting obviously. Fenway Park
Speaker 7: is a is a historic venue for baseball and and
Speaker 7: a lot of things up. You know, I had a
Speaker 7: chance to play in a couple of World Series. Is
Speaker 7: there and really cool place, uh to make your debut
Speaker 7: and and to uh get a chance to go and
Speaker 7: watch him fulfill his dream of playing in the Major
Speaker 7: League and uh do it on a really good team
Speaker 7: and in a really cool environment. It's a lot of fun.
Speaker 7: So we we had a great time and now we
Speaker 7: just landed in Baltimore's catch a catch their his first
Speaker 7: game as an Oriole in Baltimore tonight. Uh, so that's
Speaker 7: exciting too. So it's a it's a fun time and
Speaker 7: really enjoy watching him pursue.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 7: You know his passion and what he loves to do,
Speaker 7: and that's by baseball.
Speaker 3: I know Oriole fans probably wish he was called up sooner,
Speaker 3: but you talk about us kind of it's it's going
Speaker 3: to happen. The day he was drafted, what did you
Speaker 3: think that the plan was? I know, not thing's a given,
Speaker 3: but in your mind, what are you thinking of, Like,
Speaker 3: all right, this is when we're going to see him
Speaker 3: in the bigs.
Speaker 7: Well, you know that that I understand how challenging in
Speaker 7: baseball is and how you know, the minor leagues, particularly
Speaker 7: for a kid coming out of high school, you know,
Speaker 7: can be can be a challenge, and so uh my expectations.
Speaker 7: I think at the press conference he said his goal
Speaker 7: was to be there within two years, and I would
Speaker 7: to myself with thinking, Chief actually like that, that's pretty quick,
Speaker 7: Like you're you know, this is a hard deal. It
Speaker 7: was a hard game. And so I don't think that,
Speaker 7: you know, particularly with him, when he puts his mind
Speaker 7: to something, he's he's pretty relentless and and pretty uh
Speaker 7: you knows he's done, done what he said he's he's
Speaker 7: going to do, and and so uh, to make it
Speaker 7: this fast has been pretty remarkable. Uh to be you know,
Speaker 7: twenty years old and in the major league, Uh, after
Speaker 7: being drafted less than two years ago. And you know,
Speaker 7: I'm I'm really proud of him. He puts in the
Speaker 7: work and and he's mentally very tough and very focused,
Speaker 7: and uh he does everything right as far as eating
Speaker 7: and sleeping and watches you know how much make sure
Speaker 7: he's he's doing everything he can have success on the field.
Speaker 7: So I didn't really know to answer your question how
Speaker 7: long it would take. I would he gets probably a
Speaker 7: little bit longer than it's taken. But and knowing how
Speaker 7: focused and determined the kid he is, I'm not really surprised.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you ever shared this story, but
Speaker 2: it's when I remember Matt Holidays. Our guest, of course,
Speaker 2: is Jackson, the number one overall of the Orioles a
Speaker 2: year and a half ago, just got called up to
Speaker 2: the BIGS as the Orioles were playing in Boston. Now
Speaker 2: now returning home. Of course, Matt's a seven time All
Speaker 2: Star in his own rights, won a couple of World
Speaker 2: Series as well. Okay, so when he was younger and
Speaker 2: I people ask all the time, like, no, what how
Speaker 2: what is that like for Jackson? What's he really like?
Speaker 2: And I was like, dude, the most humble, thoughtful kid,
Speaker 2: And I remember this story and tell me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 2: You guys used to when he was little and Leslie
Speaker 2: would go to Target, she would do a deal where
Speaker 2: she'd run the credit card when they'd pay, and Jackson,
Speaker 2: they'd like, Jackson would sit there saying a little prayer
Speaker 2: that they'd have it, you'd have enough money for it
Speaker 2: to go through, right, am I remembering the story ride.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, he yeah, he and Ethan were always concerned that,
Speaker 7: you know, the target trips when the basket would get
Speaker 7: to full, that if if we'd have enough money to
Speaker 7: uh to get the to get all the things that
Speaker 7: were in the basket. So I don't I don't know
Speaker 7: if we how much many things were in those baskets,
Speaker 7: but yeah, they were. They were concerned that that the
Speaker 7: credit card wouldn't be able to cover it, and so
Speaker 7: Letslie just played along and she'd be like, I don't know,
Speaker 7: we'll see I mean, if not, we'll have to start
Speaker 7: taking back.
Speaker 2: I I only I only bring it up because like, seriously,
Speaker 2: how do you guys? How do you guys do it?
Speaker 2: Like Ethan's going to be a star as well still
Speaker 2: Otur high school. He's in some of he's number one
Speaker 2: rate of prospect in his class. But how do you
Speaker 2: do how do you as a major leaguer and all
Speaker 2: star when you have so many things that other people want?
Speaker 2: How do you do it to where you do? You
Speaker 2: have kids that are not only successful, but they're hungry
Speaker 2: for more. That's really the thing that so many of
Speaker 2: us who have young athletes that we want and when
Speaker 2: you're raised in fair affluence, you think they're not going
Speaker 2: to have that hunger.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what the I
Speaker 7: don't know if there's a magic bullet on that. I
Speaker 7: think just you know, I think them understanding what it
Speaker 7: took and getting a chance to be around me, uh
Speaker 7: in my career, and getting a chance to watch all
Speaker 7: my teammates, and I think then then identifying the level
Speaker 7: of work that it takes to play at the highest
Speaker 7: level and for them to see, you know, the best
Speaker 7: players and what they you know, the work that's put in,
Speaker 7: I think was really good for them to understand. And
Speaker 7: I think it also it uh, it created a passion
Speaker 7: I think for the game and for wanting to do
Speaker 7: that for a living and for them wanting to be
Speaker 7: pro baseball players. I think being around it and it's
Speaker 7: you know, it kind of provoked them to want to
Speaker 7: want to do that. And so I always told him,
Speaker 7: you know, I would throw to them or hit them
Speaker 7: ground balls or whatever they wanted to do all day
Speaker 7: if if it was their idea. But I wasn't going
Speaker 7: to force them that. I wasn't going to make them
Speaker 7: go practice that in baseball. Really, you know, in all sports,
Speaker 7: as you know, you have to have a passion for
Speaker 7: the practice, and you have to love the behind the
Speaker 7: scene work, and you have to love the the the
Speaker 7: skill development just as much as you love the game
Speaker 7: in front of a ton of people and the good
Speaker 7: the four for fours and the highs of of of
Speaker 7: winning and and and and being you know, the sort
Speaker 7: of the star player. You have to love all of
Speaker 7: the process just as much because that's how hard, you know,
Speaker 7: the sport is at the highest level that you have
Speaker 7: to continue to work and and and and fight for
Speaker 7: every day that that every day is a competition you
Speaker 7: challenge and if you don't you can get embarrassed.
Speaker 1: I mean it really is.
Speaker 7: And individual league night you're playing the best of bringing
Speaker 7: it both mentally and physically. Uh, I mean, you have
Speaker 7: to have to bring it on hundred percent every night.
Speaker 7: And I think that the fact that they were raised
Speaker 7: in that environment really you know, helped them understand what
Speaker 7: it took. And and then like I said, the out
Speaker 7: their passion for the practice.
Speaker 3: Quick one for you met holiday before we let you go.
Speaker 3: When Doug Gottlieb stays with you, does he also put
Speaker 3: his feet on your furniture? Like he does sometimes at work.
Speaker 7: Uh yeah, but that's really invited our house.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right.
Speaker 7: We have four dogs and we have you know, it's
Speaker 7: it's uh, it fits right in. Yeah, so it's it's
Speaker 7: it's uh everyone puts their feet everywhere, so it's uh,
Speaker 7: it's it's right up. He probably learned that at our house.
Speaker 2: Doesn't have you have three dogs in Trooper. Nobody likes Trooper. Nobody, nobody, nobody,
Speaker 2: nobody likes Nobody likes Trooper.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Hey man, I'm so happy. I can't wait to see
Speaker 2: Jackson he comes out to the big a uh next week.
Speaker 2: Safe travels for you, guys, and let's see if Jackson
Speaker 2: get his first home run night off Peralta.
Speaker 7: That was good, all right, thanks for having me on guys.
Speaker 2: All right, it's Matt Holiday joining us. Is just a
Speaker 2: real close friend of mine. But can you imagine, like
Speaker 2: you strip it all away, you've you've done all that
Speaker 2: stuff yourself, and you know they work literally every day
Speaker 2: in the barn at Matt's house on hitting and to
Speaker 2: see your twenty year old kid like get called up,
Speaker 2: I don't know's I've had a lot of dad moments.
Speaker 2: That's a pretty good one, pretty good, pretty good one.
Speaker 1: All right.
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