1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: Kids in England or like in different countries who watching 2 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: that the thought and be like he's in a different 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: country and he's playing in the NFL, which is in America. 4 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: You don't have to be from America born in America 5 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: to play in the NFL. You know, you can be 6 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: from any country around the world. I felt like my 7 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: best chance to being successful in life was coming to 8 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: America and playing America foot point. My thing was, if 9 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go for this, then I'm gonna put everything 10 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: I'm have into it. Top of the morning to your 11 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 1: gar what is that? It's the lounge? That was really? 12 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 1: Is that your best? Best in sense of British accent, 13 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: that's as good as you can do, baby, But I 14 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: need to stick with the spot of t That one's okay. 15 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: That one was okay, Well, you've been practicing what you've 16 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: been doing. You've been practicing the small of tea, so 17 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 1: like that's really that's your wheelhouse right now. And then 18 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: somebody throws you a curveball and you're completely filling off. 19 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: I think myself this curveball. Anyway, Welcome into the lounge. 20 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 1: All right, we got a very special addition for you today. 21 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:20,199 Speaker 1: We're gonna sit down with Ravens offensive line and Jermaine Illuminoire, 22 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: who if you don't know this guy by now and 23 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: you don't know the story, grew up in London, got 24 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: a late start to football. Excellent story. Yeah. Really, it's 25 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: obviously the London Week here. We're super excited about going 26 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: over to London for the team's first trip there. Will 27 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: also be my first trip there. And if you guys 28 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,639 Speaker 1: missed it, you know, we've made this announcement a few times, 29 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: but now we have all the details. We've kind of 30 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: been holding out on some of the details. We are 31 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 1: both of us are going to London and we're gonna 32 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: do a live episode of the Lounge Podcast in the Admiralty. 33 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: That's the pub that the Ravens have throughout the week. 34 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: So we've got some big events there Thursday, Friday, Saturday night. 35 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: It's gonna literally be jam packed with Ravens fans the 36 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: entire time where they're there. So Friday night, six pm 37 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: we're doing a live taping of the Lounge Podcast. Actually 38 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: want to talk to Ravens fans who have made the 39 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: trip over from the States. We want to talk to 40 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: Ravens fans who are Brits. Everybody that's over there. We 41 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: want to bring someone on the podcast. It's gonna be 42 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 1: a really, really good time. It's gonna be awesome. The 43 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: only bad news is our boss Michelle informed me that 44 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: we cannot bring pumpkin beer over we go on that one. Yeah, 45 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: that's a bummer, but you know, it'll still be a 46 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: good time. We might have a couple of beers, you know, sample. 47 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 1: We gotta sample the local stuff. That's exactly right. I mean, 48 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: we gotta be if it's if we're having the podcast 49 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: in the pub, we need to also, like went in, 50 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: this isn't a dry podcast. This lounge ain't dry. Um. 51 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: And also so if you guys are just wondering on 52 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: what are all the things that the team is doing 53 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:37,839 Speaker 1: while we're over in London, you need to check out 54 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: baltim Ravens dot com slash London. We have a full 55 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: rundown of everything that's gonna be happening over the course 56 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: of the week there. So uh, stay tuned because it's 57 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: gonna be a really exciting few days. And with that, 58 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: I want to read an email. Got as always great emails. 59 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: You jump in the gun. We gotta say hello to 60 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: our friends of Papa John's before you read the email 61 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: Papa John, sorry to all right, I want to tell 62 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: you about the Ravens Flock special. This is going on 63 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: all season long. You can order a large specialty pizza 64 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: or a large two topping pizza with the promo code 65 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: Ravens flock at Papa John's dot com. And then after 66 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: every Ravens win, so you're gonna be able to use 67 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: the sixteen times with the course of the regular season, 68 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: you know, three more times in the postseason. It's a 69 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: lot of pizza. I'm gonna eat all of them. Uh, 70 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: it's Ravens fifty. So every day after Ravens win, get 71 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: off regular menu price online orders for the promo code 72 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: Ravens fifty at Papa John's dot com. Okay, go to 73 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: your email now, all right, This one comes from Alexander 74 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: Antonsen and uh he is a Ravens fan in Sweden. So, 75 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: which is pretty cool because we had a guy from Sweden, Christopher. 76 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: He came and joined us on the sideline before this game. 77 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: It was the first ever Ravens games. Shout out the Christopher. 78 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: Pleasure meeting you, buddy. It was great to meet him 79 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: and we all basically, the Lounge brought all of us together, 80 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: which is cool. Exactly so this one comes from Alexander 81 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: and he said, Hi guys, awesome pod with j Mack, 82 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: great starts of the season. I'm really excited about the 83 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: London game. I didn't get a ticket, but it feels 84 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: good to have the Ravens closer to me. I usually 85 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: have one or two favorites each season solely based on 86 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: what I see on the field, and then get a 87 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,119 Speaker 1: T shirt with one of those players names on the back. 88 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: The problem I have now is that with your pod, 89 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 1: I like more players and I can't afford all the 90 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: players jerseys, so now I'll have to use my own. 91 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: But seriously, thank you for the great job of showcasing 92 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:28,239 Speaker 1: how many amazing people are involved in the organization. So really, 93 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 1: thank thank Alexander a lot for that email. As always, 94 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: you can reach us at the Lounge at Ravens dot 95 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: NFL dot net. And with that, we want to get 96 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: into this interview with Jermaine ILLUMINOI who has a fantastic 97 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: story growing up in London. Here's Germaine. Big week for 98 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: this guy. Right here. We're gonna hit you with a 99 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: big question off the start. Okay, is pumpkin beer available 100 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: in London? I wish people could see a space right now. 101 00:04:55,040 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: Have you ever had a pup or something because that's 102 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: a PSL right, Yeah, so this is pumpkin beer sw 103 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: I don't think they have their liquor license. Pumpkin what. 104 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 1: I've never heard of that in my entire life. I 105 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: don't know where y'all got there from. Dude, this is 106 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 1: why we need to be bringing pumpkin beers to London 107 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: with We need to do it. Lighten everybody over here. Yeah, yeah, no, 108 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: you are quickly becoming a former friend of the lounge. 109 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,679 Speaker 1: I'm telling you. On a nice crisp evening in the fall, 110 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: there's nothing better than a good pumpkin beer. You gotta 111 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: try it. That's such an American thing, pumpkin beer. Once again, 112 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: we don't want to don't want to encourage drinking with 113 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 1: our players, but during the off season, after the years 114 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: over pick pick up some pumpkin beers. We'll give you 115 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,799 Speaker 1: some recommendations. Yeah. If I don't like that, you're gonna 116 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: be seeing my tweets. Yeah. So we want to talk 117 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: a little bit about your story and obviously you know 118 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 1: it's a huge week for you as the Rains are 119 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: getting ready to go over to London to face the 120 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jags. Um and we won't make your retell the 121 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: story of how you first came upon football, because I 122 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 1: know you're probably gonna tell a thousand times this week. 123 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: So this is my understanding of it is you're a 124 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: twelve year old kid in London. This is why he 125 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 1: needs to tell. So you're living your old uh, and 126 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: you're flipping through the channels and you're looking for an 127 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: Arsenal game and then Stormership. What's that best team in 128 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 1: the Premiership? Alright, Arsenal guy, and you stumble upon this 129 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: American football What did you think? What is this? And 130 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: it was a game that was being played at Wembley, right, 131 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 1: you have the Dolphins and the Giants. Yeah. I think 132 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: that game was like thirteen and six or something like that. 133 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: It was just straight field goals. But even that got 134 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: you excited about the game, okay, because of the hidding 135 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: and you know everyone were in all these college I 136 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 1: think straight Yeah, Michael Stran was playing still I think, 137 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: and I think it was back in the Live Manning's 138 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: every year and you know, just seeing everything happening. I 139 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: was just like, you know, it's just it's just gonna 140 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: be really exciting. Yeah. So this was two thousand and seven. 141 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: It was the very first game that was played over 142 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: there exactly, and so they had previously played one two 143 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: years earlier in Mexico, Mexico. So he was the first 144 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: game outside of the US borders and this is the 145 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: first in London. So what's crazy about it is, you 146 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: know there's a direct connection. You know, the league wants 147 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: to expand to to the UK and get fans interested. 148 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: Here's a direct connection to where that expansion paid off 149 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: and led to a kid playing football and now in 150 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: the NFL. Was pretty crazy. Yeah, I have no idea 151 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: that it was the first Dame and I played in London. 152 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: I think that's why. I guess that's why I blow 153 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: up more than why I would, you know, because I 154 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: remember when I was a gatting recruited, you know, when 155 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: you c l A was creminate, like, oh, you know 156 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: you're from money. If you come here, you know you're 157 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: in California, in Los Angeles, You're already to blow up 158 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: once you get dropped there. Yeah, I just like this 159 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: is what like four five years ago I was that Yeah, 160 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: and I was like four years ago, like so, he 161 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: was saying, you're started gonna blow up what you're going 162 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: into the NFL dropped here in the l A. I 163 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: was like, nah, you know, it's not big deal, you know. 164 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: And so four years later blew up and I'm like, bamn, 165 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: he really said it was gonna blow up, and it 166 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: blew up like crazy, because you know, I was on 167 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: NFL network, I was on USPN, and I was doing 168 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:15,559 Speaker 1: all of these things. Told me people I never probably 169 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: be talking to, you know, So it was it was 170 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: something for sure. I had no idea. It was the 171 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: first game. I feel was just the game over there. 172 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,239 Speaker 1: And now you're on the Lounge podcast, which is really 173 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: the biggest and then this is a pinnacle of media's attention. 174 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: Suddenly downhill from here. Can you can you take it 175 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: back to that moment that when you when you were 176 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: watching that game as a kid, were you like ten 177 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: inches from the TV? What was going through your mind? 178 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: You know? You know I was. It was when I 179 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: was the only one and I think I was only 180 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: in the living room and I was just looking through 181 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: the channels and I came across that I was listening. 182 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: I'm my cash, and I went to the Florida and 183 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: you know, I screwed up a little bit closer to 184 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: the TV, just like just trying to fare anything out 185 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: because I saw these big people and all these little 186 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: people on the medium side of people, and the people 187 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: like who were jacked up, and then you know, with 188 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: all these funny haircuts wearing these like funny helmets with 189 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: like different faceballs and everything. I was like, what is 190 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 1: going on right now? Like I was like, they're playing 191 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: at Wonli Stadium. I was like, what is this? It's like? 192 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: And then like I see a commercial like the National 193 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: broad Cross to the NFL, So I'm like, what's the nfls? 194 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,719 Speaker 1: I google the NFL and the like, and then I 195 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: googled this and I was like NFL in England, thinking 196 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: like NFL teams were in England. But you know, I 197 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: was sadly let down. But you know, did you then 198 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: try to start playing like so? And how did you 199 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: start playing? So? Um funny thing? I googled the American 200 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: football and then I googled like college football because I'm like, 201 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: you know, I always wanted to go to college, and 202 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: so I google like how to get scholarships to play 203 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: college foot in America. And then I google like teams 204 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: in England that sent people over to America, and then 205 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: um the London Blesses the team I came across and 206 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: they had a guy on the practice squad in San Diego. 207 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: At the time, I don't know his and I just 208 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: remember like seeing him like suit up for a game 209 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: and he was on the practice squad and you know, 210 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: the NFL, And I thought that was the coolest thing ever, Like, 211 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: you know, they sent a guy from England to America 212 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 1: on the practice squard and you know, I wanted to 213 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 1: do that, and so I did that, you know, cool 214 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: like how to get into that, how to get over 215 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 1: to America. See if there's like a scouting agency that 216 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: can like come scat me out, you know, they could 217 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: come watch me. You hadn't even played yet and don't 218 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,599 Speaker 1: watched them played it a down. You had to be 219 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: a guy, right. I was a chubby kid. I was 220 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,319 Speaker 1: like you know that, just back when I was living 221 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: I gave myself like five three about two, like change 222 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: it's a big game. For eleven years old, I was. 223 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: I was troubled to so then how did so then 224 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: you started playing like youth football there I mean were 225 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: their leagues at that time. There was leagues, but you 226 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: had to be at a certain age and I was 227 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: too small. I was too young. So you know, they um, 228 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: they put me in a flag for a team and 229 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: those five ft five, you know, you have to center, 230 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: a quarterback and running back, a receiver, and the tight 231 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: end of the defense. They had the d tack or linebacker, 232 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: corner or safety and I think another corner, right, and 233 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: so you know, five v five, I'm playing center and 234 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: m d tackle. Tried playing some tight end, but they 235 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 1: want to let me. But you know, I made it happen, 236 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: you know, and you know just doing that it wasn't 237 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: the same. So I quit that and went back to football. 238 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: So I quit that, went back to rugby. To rugby, 239 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: you got you, okay. So then you're fourteen years old 240 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: and you and your dad moved here right to New Jersey? 241 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: And is it? Am I correct? And understanding that the 242 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: main reason that you moved over here was to pursue football? 243 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: Was that a big part of it was that? The 244 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: main reason me personally, yeah, that was the only reason 245 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 1: I came over here. Really, my father his intentions were 246 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: to give us a better life and like a bear 247 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: opportunity and succeeding, because you know, England, there's not too 248 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: much to do unless you're really go to soccer or 249 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: you want to be a doctor or something, and you know, 250 00:11:58,200 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: I didn't want to do either. You know, they've been 251 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: good to be a doctor, but I that thing. I 252 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,079 Speaker 1: was that smart. It would be cool to play for Arsenal. 253 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: They were men cool to be play for Arsenal bowels. 254 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: And you know, I think I was too big, you know, 255 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: So I felt like my best chance to being successful 256 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:15,959 Speaker 1: in life was coming to America and playing American football. 257 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: So what was that? Like you moved here fourteen years old. 258 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: You you leave behind friends and family and everything the 259 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: life that you've known, and it's all to pursue this game, 260 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 1: which at the time, like it's not like you knew 261 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: that you were destined to go to the NFL, Like 262 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: the game is still kind of all new to you, 263 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: and you want to pursue that, Like that's a huge 264 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: commitment to make at that time in your life. I 265 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: feel like my thing was, if I'm gonna go for this, 266 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: then I'm gonna put everything I'm hav into it, you know. 267 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: And I was like, you only hear one chance of life, 268 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: and you know, if I don't go for stuff that 269 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: I want to do, then with the point of you know, 270 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: having a life like you know, it's just wasting. And 271 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: my thing was growing up. You know, I had to 272 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: grow up at a young age because it was just 273 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: me and my dad over here, and so you know, 274 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: he's at work all day and you know, I'm a 275 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: fourteen year old kid. Used to have my mother around 276 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: to do stuff for me, and I had to grow 277 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,079 Speaker 1: up real quick and learn how to do things for 278 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: myself because you know, she wasn't around and my dad 279 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: wasn't too was. He was busy working trying to get 280 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: one to have for us, and then sent back home 281 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: for my mother as well because she was only one 282 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: over there trying to support three kids, you know, so 283 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: he was trying to do that. So I was on 284 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,599 Speaker 1: my own a lot, and um, you know, it was 285 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 1: just helped me grow up a lot, but also helped 286 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 1: me know see that you know, I have no choice 287 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: but to go for it because you know, we're going 288 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: through this for struggling and you know it's mentally so 289 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,839 Speaker 1: I can you know, live a dream and so then 290 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 1: my family can come up here over here in lave 291 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: a dream, you know, And so I was it began 292 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: when you know, we moved over here, and you know, 293 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: my dad gave me long tune to play. So how 294 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: did these conversations go? I guess when you're talking to 295 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: your mom and your dad. Was it you were pushing 296 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: your dad and saying, look that I really want to 297 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 1: go to America or was he kind of saying I 298 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: want to? He already started like the process of moving, 299 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: because I remember going to like the embassy in England 300 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: and you know, doing your fingerprints, taking your weight down, 301 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: you know, getting the right shots. Um, doing an interview 302 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: is to get a green card, and you have to 303 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: go through this whole procedures just to get a green card, 304 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: you know. So I didn't know he had them. But 305 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: when we came up to like overake it too, um, 306 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: you know, come over here on a holiday vacation. Um, 307 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: you know, he came up to me today before we're 308 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: gonna leave, and it was like, hey's man, like you 309 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: know what you think about this place? I was like, 310 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: I love it. It's like you want to try coming 311 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: over here, like you know, living here, he said it goes. 312 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: I was like, let's do it, you know, like he was. 313 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: And my mother was sitting there right there, and she 314 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: was like, are you sure? Because they knew how much 315 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: I want to move to America. You know. It was 316 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: funny because like the more I think about, the more 317 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: I remember little things. And I remember being in school 318 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: telling my friends I'm going to America. I'm about to 319 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: move there. I had no idea I was gonna move 320 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: with there, but they're like, no, you're not, You're not 321 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: gonna move to America. And I was like, watch, I'm 322 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: gonna move to America. Two weeks later that you know, 323 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: it's back when we're in my space, they come out 324 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: of my my space, you really moved to America. What so? 325 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: You know, I remember a little things like that, but 326 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: you know, I really wanted to do it, and I 327 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: had been saying that for a couple of years, and 328 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: so when they actually came around actually doing it, you know, 329 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: I was head over heels and I was like, steam head, 330 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: let's do it. It's awesome. So when you get here, 331 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: tell me about the first time you throw on the 332 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: path and you're actually going up and suiting up for 333 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: a American football practice. Were you any good? Did you 334 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: know what I sucked. Oh my goodness, I was. I 335 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: remember my sophomore and junior year, you know, like because 336 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: the young guys have suit up with the varsity team, 337 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: just you know, just for depth. And I remember everyone 338 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: saying the fag your size, I'll go, do you want 339 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: the fager size? I'll go do one, you know, And 340 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: this is me, like I don't know how to play football, 341 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: Like I'm I never forget that, Like I literally remember 342 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: you sitting the way people tell me. You know, I'm sure, 343 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: like I'm not gonna play football, but you can because 344 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: you're so big. You know, if I had your size, 345 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: I'll go, do you want? So easily, you know, And 346 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: like I didn't know how to play, so I was 347 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: still learning. But you know I kind of took that 348 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: to heart because you know, these people are telling me 349 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: that I I can go. Do you want to have the shide? 350 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: So why can't I go do that? You know? It's 351 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: kind of frustrating though, like I do it so easy 352 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: if I would, if I would write, like, I'm sure 353 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: you wouldn't have no idea serious? And then is it 354 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: true that you basically so you had to go to Juko, right, 355 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: and you went to Juko for a year two years, 356 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: and during that time that you're there, obviously you kind 357 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: of developed as a player and all that, but you're 358 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: basically sending out emails to college coaches and recruiters saying like, hey, 359 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: I'm here. I am take a look. Like, was anybody 360 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: calling you at the time. No, when I first got there, No, 361 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: I walked on at Lawana. You know, I remember I 362 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: sent the same thing I did to get the office 363 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: in Juico. I did the same thing to get you know, 364 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: like I wanted to take a shot shot at me 365 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: and give me like a roster spot because at the time, 366 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: you know, they were filling out their roster, and you know, 367 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: I emailed them at lost men like, hey, you know 368 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: I don't have no schools to go to. I saw 369 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: that you just like you just um, you know, one 370 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: of your linement just sounded Virginia. Mark Whiskey was a 371 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: starting left guard for the Seattle Seahawks right now, and 372 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 1: he just left the Duke and I was like, you know, 373 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: y'all have a spot to feel like I feel like 374 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: I can feel that spuff y'all if y'all can be 375 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: the opporunity. I sent him highlight tape, and you know, 376 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: I wasn't the best player, but you know, I you know, 377 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: I had some sort of ability. That's why they took 378 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,479 Speaker 1: a chrance on me. And so then you know, I 379 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: walked on there and I went through training camp. You know, 380 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: I was really determined. So I worked my butt up 381 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 1: that summer and I remember getting their practicing for the 382 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: first time, and you know, they didn't really know what 383 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: to expect that on me and I lined up, you know, 384 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: we're doing Oklahoma jails. I lined up against the best 385 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 1: D line we had, and you know that I think 386 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: that if I was gonna get killed, but you know, 387 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: I ended up, you know, Stell made with him, but 388 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: it was like, you know, collision. Then everyone was like 389 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: what you started watching it. You know, here a member 390 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: with my coach going to go drive him, drive drive. 391 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: You know, from that point on, they took me serious. 392 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 1: And I ended up againting to start at right tackle 393 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: and left tackle for a couple of games because you know, 394 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: we had injuries Draw Barxton, you know, he was starting 395 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: right tackle and he got hurt, and so then I 396 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 1: was able to step in at right tackle, and you know, 397 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 1: I got enough. I started for five games. I had 398 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,719 Speaker 1: enough tape made that put that together, and I sent 399 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:15,239 Speaker 1: out to a bunch of schools, like I still had 400 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: the emails I sent to schools from when I was 401 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 1: in high school. So I basically like, you know, delete 402 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: some things, retype exactly. You know. It's like I'm in 403 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: high school and now I took outs like I'm in 404 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: junior college now, you know, like sending them out like 405 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: to leave the highlight tape I had from high school. 406 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: Send him a holight tape like I have a holdo 407 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: now too. So I had film, you know, and like 408 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 1: I delete, Like what I would do is that would 409 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: be like my cover sheet and I would delete the 410 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 1: school and I put a new schooling. And so he 411 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: definitely made some mistakes. I'm sure you said, you have 412 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: no idea. I was going back, like you know, during 413 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: the draft process, like people wanted the emails, so I went, 414 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: I had a hotmail, was back on my hotmail mail 415 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: like hot mail. That's the last you wonder, you know, 416 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 1: So what is this. I'm looking at these emails and 417 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: I figured out why Maryland didn't offer me, and that's 418 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: because I sent him an email that said, I feel 419 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: like Michigan State would be the best school for me. 420 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: I want to be a sparring And I said the 421 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 1: wrong cat coach's name too, And I did that for 422 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: a couple of school. It's funny because some of the 423 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: school still offer me. They didn't care about the email. 424 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: They just cared about my highlight take. But um. The 425 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: first time email I sent out was to UM Florida 426 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: stand Wisconsin back when Brett Filmer was there. And so 427 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 1: I sent out to Florida State and two hours later 428 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: they emailed me back like who are you? Like where 429 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: are you? Like, you know, all these questions and they 430 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: gave me a number, and you know, I called the 431 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: number and a Jimbo Fisher and he was like he 432 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: was in it stuff me and like hey, je man, 433 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 1: what's up. I was like, what's up? Who's this? He's 434 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: like Jimbo Fischer was like, oh snap, you know it's 435 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: like you know, how you doing I'm good, coach, And 436 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, how are you doing that? I'm great? And 437 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 1: I'm here to like the you know what. The coaches 438 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 1: were watching film right now. We love you. You know 439 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: how long you've been playful for I was like, oh, 440 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: this is my third year playing on a second kind 441 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: of second year playing something to play when year of 442 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: high school and he was like, oh wait what. I 443 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: was like yeah. He's like, well, we love you. We 444 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: just cooled you, like we watched your wrestling tape and 445 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: we love you. And then he put me on the 446 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: cop online on the phone with the oldline coach and 447 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 1: he's like yeah, but one off he was scholarship. I'm like, okay, coach, 448 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: thank you. It's like I was gonna talk to you soon. 449 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 1: And I was like, I think you, coach. And they 450 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: didn't hit me until I was walking down the street 451 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: back to my dorm and I was like, wait, White 452 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: and I called him again and he was like yeah. 453 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: I was like, what do you say you of from me? 454 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 1: A scholarship? He's like, yeah, we want you here. I 455 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 1: was like, oh, I cooled my parents. You know, they 456 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: were just going crazy and everyone's going crazy, like, man, 457 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: just covered by far the state and rewind that two 458 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 1: months part of that. My coach was like, Germine, what's 459 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: your dream school? You know? I was like Florida State 460 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: and that was my first offer, and you know, it's 461 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 1: just it's just funny, like thinking about little things like that. 462 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: So why did you end up with Texas saying I'm 463 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: not getting I'm not getting the connection here. Well, I 464 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: had the USC was my dream dream school. It wasn't 465 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: the same USC that which I fell in love when 466 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll was a bratation of Raymond Luca, you know, 467 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 1: um Mark Sanchez and Reggie Bush. But you know, I 468 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: end up it ain't that because you know, coach someone 469 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,239 Speaker 1: called me and my thing was I wanted to make 470 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 1: to the NFL. And they were shooting Liman out like crazy. 471 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 1: You know, they had a joke cool and then they 472 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: had Jake and then he had said g I you know, 473 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: and you know they were they were about to have 474 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: Joker going the NFL draft and uh no joke. Wo 475 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 1: just went second in the draft, and Jake and Cedric 476 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 1: were supposed to leave, and so I was like, damn, 477 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: like that's my spot, Like you know, that's the spot 478 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 1: for me. Like then NFL just gonna be watching me. 479 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 1: So I spind up at ain't that. Come to find out, 480 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: said didn't want to leave because he wanted to play 481 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: left tackle. So I got richert that year, So say 482 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 1: screwed me? It all worked out, Okay, it worked out 483 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: pretty fine, you know, said starting left tackle for the 484 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: Bengals now, you know, but you know it's fine. You know, 485 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: then he had to deal with her all sugs last Yeah, 486 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 1: I've been dealing with sugs using you know when the 487 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: best ever do. So what was the emotions like when 488 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: you get drafted by the Ravens in the fifth round, 489 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: Because I remember watching the video of you and it's 490 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 1: like you're like had to wait for a while and 491 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 1: you're bummed, and then when you hear your name called, 492 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 1: Just what's that emotion? Like? Like it was funny because 493 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: the entire um, like the entire process, I kept hearing 494 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: different things, and I heard something from like first round, 495 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 1: the second round, the third round, the fourth, like the 496 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: lowest they said, it goes the fifth, and you know, 497 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 1: I guess like the whole like how the lineman thing 498 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: went only two in the first two and the second 499 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 1: life stuff like that that kind of made me slide 500 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: down the board. But my thing was, I was just 501 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 1: like I need an opportunity, and that's why I like, 502 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 1: that's all I ever needed in life, you know, like 503 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,880 Speaker 1: I've got opportunities and once I got those, I didn't 504 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: matter what the circumstance was. As soon as I got 505 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 1: that tunity, I was going to get the best out 506 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: of it. You know. I did the same thing in Juico. 507 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: I did the same thing. Ain't then where I only 508 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: started for one year. You know. My thing is that 509 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 1: if you're giving an opportunity, then that you're getting trust 510 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: to succeed. If you don't, that's your phone and all 511 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: I need to as opportunities so when I win it. 512 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 1: You know when I went fifth to in the fifth 513 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: round to the raven and I was like, as my opportunity, 514 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: And I was praying before that to God, like you know, 515 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: whenever my name is cold, like I'm gonna make the 516 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: best out of the opportunity. Because the thing that Gummy 517 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: was watching all these other linement go who I far 518 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: I was better than? But you know, I was like, 519 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: that's just you know, it's just your fields the fire. 520 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 1: Like as soon as I get drafted, I'm gonna make 521 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: sure that you know, I'm I turned up to be 522 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: one of the best players. And then when people talk 523 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: about that draft, cluss and talking about me, you know, 524 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: but emotion wise, it was like that was just crazy 525 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: because you go from watching the NFL dropt on TV 526 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 1: every single year, like the first NFL draft I watched 527 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: was when Matt Ryan got drafted to the Focus. You know, 528 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: you had Vernon ghosted and Glenn Dorsey had your quarterback. Um, 529 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 1: you know. So that was my first of the NFL drafts. 530 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 1: I went from that to actually getting drafted, and it 531 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: didn't hit me until a couple of days later. I 532 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: was like, damn, I'm in the NFL, you know, like, 533 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: you know, I go over that hump, like you know, 534 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: I'm I'm in it. Now I'm in it, and how 535 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 1: the real work begins because now not not gonna stay in it, 536 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: you know. So it was it was something. It was, 537 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 1: you know, just being around my friends and family, you know, 538 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 1: seeing how happy my dad was, you know, like you know, 539 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: I've never seen him that happy before him my mother too, 540 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 1: and you know, I've been blessed out of a great 541 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 1: family and a grace podcast and great best friends, you know. 542 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: So the the fact that I got to share that 543 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: moment with them something I remember. I remember, I remember 544 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: remember for the rest of my life. Seerful. So, you know, 545 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: you get your ass by the Arab buts. You find 546 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 1: out pretty quickly obviously that you're going to be going 547 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: to London this year. If that's happening this week. So 548 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: what is your emotion to know that you're going back 549 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: to Wembley, the place where you saw that game, you know, 550 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: as an eleven year old kid, and now you're gonna 551 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: go back and playing that stadium. There's probably gonna be 552 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: some eleven year old kid in London that's gonna be 553 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 1: watching you, maybe wearing a Germaine alumin or jersey. Like, 554 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 1: what is the emotion of going back and doing that? 555 00:24:55,720 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 1: You know? Um, My thing is, I feel like I'm 556 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: meant to be like a like a bridge so that 557 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 1: kids in England or like in different countries who watch 558 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: it effect and be like he's a different country and 559 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: he's playing in the NFL, which is in America. You 560 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: don't have to be from America, born in America to 561 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 1: play in the NFL. You know, you can be from 562 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 1: any country around the world. And my thing is I 563 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 1: want people to see that, and I want people to 564 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 1: see that. You know, you can live in England, you 565 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: can live in France, you can live in you know, um, 566 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: what's another country, Spain, Russia, China, you can live in 567 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: any of these countries. In Mexico and if you have 568 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: a dream of playing the NFL. You have a dream, 569 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 1: like no matter what that dream is, no matter where 570 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: you have to be to make their dream possible, you know, 571 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: and things possible because you know, I came from England 572 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: and I'm in America playing a sport that is, you know, 573 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: dominated by Americans. Now I'm one of the only one 574 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 1: of only five A players playing it. But the fact 575 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: that that's sworn from another country playing in a sport 576 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 1: that you know, people didn't think he was gonna ever play, 577 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: and people never before they was going to reach this level. 578 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: You know that. I want people to see that. And 579 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 1: you know, that eleven year old who was in the stand, 580 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: I want him to be like, you know, he was 581 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: the same age when he first like he was the 582 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 1: same age as me when he first watched his football game. 583 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: This is my first fooble game. Why could not be 584 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: like him? You know? And then like you know, eleven 585 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: years later, like twelve years later, come and find out 586 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 1: he's the next big thing. You know that, And that's 587 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: because he saw what I did. Like that there would 588 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: be nothing more sweet than that, you know, like other 589 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: than win the Super Bowl and you know, hopefully like 590 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 1: going down was one of the best to ever do it. 591 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: But out of everything, I want to inspire others. So 592 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 1: you know, ten twenty years later, people are like, yo, 593 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 1: you know I heard about this kids, you main liminom 594 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 1: he meant to the NFL, and that's what I went 595 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: to do. And you know, I did what he said 596 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: and I didn't quit and I followed my dreams and 597 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: now I'm here. You know, like just hearing if something 598 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: like if that is you know, if that's the case 599 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 1: ten twenty years later, that's come to be the best 600 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 1: thing ever because that means I've like I impacted lives 601 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: and that's what I want to do. It's awesome. When 602 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,199 Speaker 1: was the last time you were back in London? And 603 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 1: six years ago? Six years ago? So how how bad 604 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: are you wiling to get back there? I mean the 605 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: last time I was there was when my dad was 606 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: trying to stay there and at the beg room to 607 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: come back, you know. So that's the last time I 608 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 1: was there. He was trying to stay there because my 609 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: we came here and it was it was real hard, 610 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: you know, because you know, he had to work a 611 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: ton of drives and he was missing my family. You know, 612 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: he's away from his wife and kids. You know, he 613 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: barely got to see me to something living with my 614 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 1: aunt and you know, he's living an hour an hour 615 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,719 Speaker 1: and a half away, and so it got harder than 616 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: We went over to see my family in Christmas vacation 617 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: and he had plans and coming back, but you know, 618 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 1: my plan was to go back as soon as it 619 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: was and as soon as there was time to go back. 620 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: And I remember the day we were supposed to go back, 621 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: he was telling me that you know, we're gonna stay 622 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: here because it's not going good. You know, He's like, 623 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,239 Speaker 1: you know, it's too hard, and you know, I just 624 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,199 Speaker 1: begged him to come back, and I was like, you know, 625 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: just giving me an opportunity to make it. And I'm 626 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 1: prom sure, I'm making our problem, sure graduat And I promised, 627 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: like you know, like I'll make something, you know, just 628 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: I want to go back. I don't want to be 629 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: here like this is for me, America's for me, you know, 630 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 1: just trying, trying. And I remember that day where it's 631 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,719 Speaker 1: like he was like okay, and I was real emotional 632 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 1: airport because I didn't see my family for another two years. 633 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: But um, you know, if you didn't take that chance 634 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: of me, I won't be here, but that's the last 635 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,199 Speaker 1: time I was there, so you know, I mentioned to 636 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: go back to just a lot of my friends over 637 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 1: there have kids now and like they were growing up. 638 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: So I really want to go back there and see them, 639 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 1: you know, see my family with my big sister, my 640 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,919 Speaker 1: little nephew Noah, you know, my cousin's my little um 641 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 1: other nephew Michael. You know. So I'm excited to go 642 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 1: back there and see everything's changed and like if things 643 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: are still in the same place, like how much they've grown. 644 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: You know. One of my one of my who was 645 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: my best friend one he's still like really close to me. 646 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: One of my friends over there is like a world 647 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: right now model now you know, he's in like for 648 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: we know, all over everything. So I'm like srd to 649 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: go back and saying, like you a model now, you know. 650 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: So it was when you were in high school. So 651 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: you went back for Christmas vacation the first time after 652 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: you went over there over the States for high school 653 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: and us in your Dad's stayed interesting. So what do 654 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: you think the view is a one in or a 655 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: football and oneon? Now so people love it. I have 656 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: so many people hit me up, just like how can 657 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: we do Like, how can to do this? I want 658 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: to do this. I want to do that, you know, 659 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: not trying to get back to all of them, you know, 660 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: like I hear about all these academies over there now 661 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: as an American foot academy over there, They're like, yeah, 662 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: so big here. They're like they have people going to 663 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: college in America now and like, you know, getting scholarships. 664 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, what was that when I was trying to 665 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: play United like Google stuff? And now academy is that? 666 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: Like give you tend to do that? But that just 667 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: shows how big the sport is getting over there. You know, 668 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: it's getting huge. Um, do you want to have a 669 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: team there? Do you hope that it would just be hard? 670 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: You know, I mean it would be dope for sure. 671 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: You know, I have a home, you know, having Wembley 672 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: as a home stadium, it will be I think that 673 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: being would sell out every single week when a week 674 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: in a week out. But you just there would just 675 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: be a lot of things like that seven hour trip 676 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: and the time difference. You know. I feel like if 677 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: they did, they would have to have a bunch of 678 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: games that like a couple weeks there and in a 679 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: couple of weeks in the States. But you know, I mean, 680 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: there's a lot of smart people working for the NFLS. 681 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: I'm sure they figured something out. We're not either. There's 682 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: smart people. No. Do you think that if Joe Flacca 683 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: is walking down the street in downtown London, are people 684 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: going to recognize in there? Oh? Really? Okay? Are they are? 685 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: They definitely gonna know you? Are you gonna have Is 686 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: it gonna be a paparazzi situation when we go over 687 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: there for you? Sure, we'll see. It's my first time 688 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: going back. So see how it is? We say football 689 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: A couple of quick hitters here, all right? When we 690 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: say football, first thing that comes to mine. So it 691 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: is still when you're talking to friends or family or whatever. 692 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: Do you call America but you have to say American football? 693 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: I just say football and football, okay, like you know, 694 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: it depends. It depends the conversation. If I'm talking about 695 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: like you know or some something like yo, yeah, football. 696 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: If I'm talking about like you know, the bots working, 697 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: and I'm like football, I don't like saying soccer. It 698 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: sounds weird. I say it if I have to don 699 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: not sound weird. Because I don't want people like you say, 700 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: what do you mean football? We're playing socker. I'm like 701 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: that sucker, Like you know, I want to avoid that 702 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: whole time, so I say suckers, But you know, I 703 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: want to say football because it is football, right, like socker, 704 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: like sucker. If you're playing your socks, it just makes 705 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: no sense like football, suckerball, and it makes no sense 706 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: to me whatsoever. All right, he's tougher football players and 707 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: rugby players. Gosh, they got me on they got me draft. 708 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: They saying rugby is harder than football, and you pregretted 709 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: it sense, but rugby is tougher than football. How's up? 710 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 1: Physically means so much? Physically? They hit You hit with 711 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: our pads, they like, you know, like the like a 712 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: little shoulder pads, not shows, like a little patting that 713 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: we wear like shells. That's what they were if even 714 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: back when I was playing, you really just put on 715 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: a jersey and pats, jersey and shorts. You're hitting right, 716 00:31:58,160 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: so you come out sore as hell. Like there was 717 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: one time I was in the scrumb and my neck 718 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: was down and someone hit the back of my neck 719 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: and like I couldn't move it like it was paying 720 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: for the move for a good three or four days. Yeah. So, 721 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: I mean I feel like rugby you have to be tough, 722 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: you know, because rugby, you see people are like no teeth. Besides, 723 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: you know when you see people like the little table 724 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: on their head, that's because they they cut their head 725 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: open and they just put table on it to go 726 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 1: and play. Oh that's why we don't play rugby. Yeah, exactly. Alright, alright, 727 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: fish and chips or crab cake, fish and chips. That's 728 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: not gonna win any Fish and chips. Down to Downton Abbey, 729 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 1: big fan, Downton Navy. It's a TV share. I know 730 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: I heard about it, but it's not you need to like. Yeah, 731 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 1: I don't watch all right. So who on the team 732 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 1: has the best mock British accents and talker? Oh yeah, 733 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: right in the accent he can mock anyone he chooses. 734 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: It's his British accent of than yours. I mean, you 735 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: know mine's original though, he's a think So who's just 736 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: the worst. It's a lot because you know, some of 737 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: them we saw in India. Some of them sound Australian. 738 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: Um I think Nikos Ragusa. Yeah, okay, still because it's terrible. 739 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: Now we got to do ours, all right, you gotta 740 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: judge between us who's got who's the worst. I want 741 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 1: to say twenty buckshot, I said, like blind me or 742 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,959 Speaker 1: something like, alright, wait, not a cup of tea? Can 743 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: you pass me a spot? I was about as soon 744 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: as he said no, no, I was about to say, 745 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: you gonna say spots? Can you pass me a spot 746 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: of t I'll try to just say I'm not gonna 747 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: say like a phrase like that. Thank you for doing 748 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 1: the podcast. Could I interest you with some fish and chips? Yeah? 749 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: It was still wave. You didn't even sound anywhere close. 750 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: Sovine's better, even though it's cliche. I can't wait for 751 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: you all to go back and see what in actual 752 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 1: English Texas, I will be like, damn, I was. That's 753 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,879 Speaker 1: embarrassing ya. Don't come up to me like Jermaine. We're 754 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: sorry that we try to do it. It takes a 755 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 1: lot to embarrass its alright, we do it a lot. 756 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 1: Jermaine Luminar, thank you all right, So thanks again to 757 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,800 Speaker 1: Jermaine and obviously an incredible story. Uh somebody that I 758 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,800 Speaker 1: appreciate the fact that he wants to be an inspiration, 759 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 1: you know, to a lot of kids. And I think 760 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 1: that it'll be really cool to go back to London 761 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,760 Speaker 1: this week, um and see the way the game has grown. 762 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: And I think that we'll see a lot of Germaine 763 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 1: Alluminar jerseys over there, which would be pretty easy to see. Well, 764 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: the question is do we see Germaine a Luminar on 765 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: the field. I doubt it right now because Tony berg 766 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: Sherman looks like the guy at right guard with marshing 767 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,760 Speaker 1: onto out. But John Harball did say earlier on Monday, 768 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 1: he said that Jermaine Alluminoar is getting close to see 769 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: in the field, So I'll tell it'd be kind of cool. 770 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,439 Speaker 1: I hope he it's like a few snaps leaks. Let's 771 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 1: hope for a blowout Illuminois getting in there in the 772 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 1: fourth quarter, That's what I'm talking. Maybe he doesn't, maybe 773 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: he doesn't start. You know, that's probably be a stretch. 774 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: But to go out there and play a few snaps, 775 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: get active for the first time, that would be really cool. 776 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 1: John Harball said. By the way, he said he's come 777 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 1: five hundred miles in his advancement as a player, which 778 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 1: is a song by the Proclaimers, who are a Scottish band. 779 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,760 Speaker 1: Scotland you probably know, part of the United Kingdom. There 780 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: we go, so we're really just going all in on 781 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: the scene. Circle Baby, We're going all in on the scene. 782 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 1: And before we go today, the last thing I want 783 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: to tell you about is our Ravens Flock Special from 784 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 1: Papa John's. 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So thanks for listening and we can't 794 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 1: wait to get across the pond and meet all of 795 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 1: you in London this week.